Anglican Vicar Uses Police To Intimidate Blogger

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In Britain, a blogger who’s been blowing the whistle on the Holocaust denial activities of an Anglican vicar finds himself in trouble with the cops: Harry’s Place » Anglican Vicar Uses Police To Intimidate Blogger.

As some people have noticed, I’ve been rather quiet in blogging about the Reverend Stephen Sizer’s activities of late.

After all, what more can be said of a man who forwards emails from Holocaust deniers, shares platforms with Holocaust deniers, and shamelessly flaunts his anti-Zionist theology before Iran’s apocalyptic Holocaust-denying regime? As Iranian pastors are arrested and house churches closed down, why is the Khomeinist regime translating Sizer’s book on Christian Zionism into Farsi? How many more times can I point all this out?

Yet there’s another reason why I’ve been quiet, and whilst I’ve held my tongue and my pen for a while, now is the time to speak.

At 10am on Sunday 29th November 2009, I received a visit from two policemen regarding my activities in running the Seismic Shock blog.

UPDATE at 1/26/10 5:21:36 pm:

A clarification from Seismic Shock: Stephen Sizer: NOT a Holocaust denier.

Stephen Sizer is not a Holocaust denier – there are a few posts out there accusing him of “Holocaust denial activities“, which he hasn’t done. He has, however, cited Holocaust denier Dale Crowley as a seemingly credible source in an interview on Press TV.

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1 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:01:35am

This morning, Ben Hur posted an article about a Polish priest who is claiming that Jews use the Holocaust to their advantage.

2 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:02:36am

Holy flippin' cow. Who knew that you could get a visit from the police for reporting the truth.

3 albusteve  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:03:03am

thought police...Orwellian world we live in

4 RogueOne  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:04:56am

Can you imagine that happening here? If you can't, you better get used to the idea.

5 Big Steve  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:06:05am

I could see him getting a visit from his employer telling him to not use university property to post his blog and to do his blogging on his own time.......that would be fair. However sending in the Tommy's.....kind of weird.

6 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:06:17am

re: #1 MandyManners

The Holocaust only receives media coverage because of affluent Jews' financial backing, military might and lobbying fronts, presenting a skewed version of events to the world, a high-ranking Polish bishop told a Catholic news portal on Monday.

Polish bishop and professor Tadeusz Pieronek told the Web site Pontifex.roma that while the Holocaust was not exclusively Jewish, Jews had monopolized it in lieu of encouraging "serious historical debate, free from prejudice and victimization."

Pieronek alleged that Jews today use the Holocaust as "a weapon of propaganda, used to obtain benefits which are often unjustified," citing as an example the unconditional support for Israel by the US. "This promotes a certain arrogance that I find unbearable," he said, explaining that Israel was using its position of power and exploiting historical tragedies to treat the Palestinians "like animals."

SNIP

8 idioma  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:09:20am

OT Article:

Pamela Geller: Harmless Zionist Bikini Blogger Or "Poster Girl For Eurofascism"?

9 Kragar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:09:50am

What a dick.

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:10:07am

re: #2 thedopefishlives

Holy flippin' cow. Who knew that you could get a visit from the police for reporting the truth.

In Richmond, CA, you can't even get a visit from the police for five hours after you've been assaulted, so I'm pretty sure that the RPD does not visit bloggers to check in with them.

11 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:10:31am

re: #4 RogueOne

Can you imagine that happening here? If you can't, you better get used to the idea.

Based on what?

12 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:13:40am

re: #4 RogueOne

Can you imagine that happening here? If you can't, you better get used to the idea.

Eh. I'm with SFZ. Maybe the po-po were doing the good Vicar a favor, but i'm confident about using my constitutional right to tell the boys to @#$% off if they visit my house on a civil matter and want to do more than have a friendly chat. as in the UK, civil accusations of libel here are just that - civil - unless i'm forgetting a new and troubling law somewhere...

13 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:14:04am

re: #4 RogueOne

Can you imagine that happening here? If you can't, you better get used to the idea.

Remember the blogger who got a visit from the TSA for publishing the new guidelines?

14 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:16:27am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

Eh. I'm with SFZ. Maybe the po-po were doing the good Vicar a favor, but i'm confident about using my constitutional right to tell the boys to @#$% off if they visit my house on a civil matter and want to do more than have a friendly chat. as in the UK, civil accusations of libel here are just that - civil - unless i'm forgetting a new and troubling law somewhere...

The mere fact that a private individual could use the power of the state to silence a critic is chilling.

15 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:16:28am

re: #13 MandyManners

Remember the blogger who got a visit from the TSA for publishing the new guidelines?

a bit different than calling a vicar a spade, dontcha think?

16 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:17:49am

re: #14 MandyManners

The mere fact that a private individual could use the power of the state to silence a critic is chilling.

This, really. It's true that you're not allowed to publish just anything you want, but publishing factually true statements is hardly a crime. Libel cases have to demonstrate malice and falsehood; it's not libelous if it's true.

17 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:18:49am

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What a dick.

[Link: failblog.org...]

18 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:18:49am

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

Based on what?

It's a sad fact of human nature that authority is frequently brought to bear, not against those against whomit ought to be used - who can be expected to make a lot of noise, fuss, and trouble - but rather against those least likely to cause harm or agitation.

It's why small-town cops spend their time on traffic violations instead of trying to bust up meth rings.

19 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:18:54am

Thought crimes. Looks like the UK is flying headlong into the brave new world. (apologies for the mixed literary reference)

20 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:19:11am

re: #16 thedopefishlives

This, really. It's true that you're not allowed to publish just anything you want, but publishing factually true statements is hardly a crime. Libel cases have to demonstrate malice and falsehood; it's not libelous if it's true.

Not so in Great Britain.

21 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:19:28am

re: #15 Aceofwhat?

a bit different than calling a vicar a spade, dontcha think?

No. Those TSA agents were acting illegally--they didn't have a warrant and they didn't have jurisdiction.

The common thread is that the state is acting outside of the law.

22 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:19:51am

re: #14 MandyManners

The mere fact that a private individual could use the power of the state to silence a critic is chilling.

I don't disagree. So we're left wondering how the state could justify getting involved in what is clearly a civil libel affair at most. The simplest explanation is that the Tommies weren't officially visiting on the state's behalf, but that they or a superior of theirs were buddies with the vicar. Disgusting, but not as chilling as the State coming down on a citizen with all of the force and power at its disposal...

...i have no idea whether i'm right, but it's what i'd bet if i were a bettor.

23 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:04am

re: #20 Guanxi88

Not so in Great Britain.

Granted. I meant here. Great Britain, like much of Europe, has quite a different set of free speech laws.

24 albusteve  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:05am

re: #17 Ben Hur

[Link: failblog.org...]

the comments are call "failures of communication"....LOL!

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:08am

re: #18 Guanxi88

It's a sad fact of human nature that authority is frequently brought to bear, not against those against whomit ought to be used - who can be expected to make a lot of noise, fuss, and trouble - but rather against those least likely to cause harm or agitation.

It's why small-town cops spend their time on traffic violations instead of trying to bust up meth rings.

I still don't expect a lot of American bishops to be able to send the police around to talk to bloggers any time soon.

26 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:19am

re: #16 thedopefishlives

This, really. It's true that you're not allowed to publish just anything you want, but publishing factually true statements is hardly a crime. Libel cases have to demonstrate malice and falsehood; it's not libelous if it's true.

The truth is the defence in a libel case.

27 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:26am

re: #2 thedopefishlives

Holy flippin' cow. Who knew that you could get a visit from the police for reporting the truth.

Oh, about three billion people in certain countries over the past 90 years.

28 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:33am

re: #20 Guanxi88

Not so in Great Britain.

you're kidding. the truth can be libelous???

29 Soap_Man  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:50am

re: #4 RogueOne

Can you imagine that happening here? If you can't, you better get used to the idea.

No, I can't imagine that happening here. What are you implying? (I'm assuming this is somehow directed at the current administrations, an accusation I find to be ... unsettling.)

30 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:52am

re: #17 Ben Hur

[Link: failblog.org...]

*snicker*

31 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:20:56am

re: #23 thedopefishlives

Granted. I meant here. Great Britain, like much of Europe, has quite a different set of free speech laws.

FIFY

32 Cato the Elder  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:21:03am

This guy may be in real trouble. London is the world's capital for libel suits. Unlike in the US, where truth is an absolute defense against libel and slander charges, in Britain the defendant has to prove that he is innocent of the accusations. Rich sheikhs and others and others have used this to file lawsuits in London that they couldn't win here.

Keep us posted, Charles. The man may need contributions to his legal defense.

33 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:21:06am

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

I still don't expect a lot of American bishops to be able to send the police around to talk to bloggers any time soon.

No, we're not likely to face that prospect anytime soon.

Weird, the whole thing - clergy dragging in the civil arm like that.

34 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:21:55am

re: #29 Soap_Man

No, I can't imagine that happening here. What are you implying? (I'm assuming this is somehow directed at the current administrations, an accusation I find to be ... unsettling.)


If it were directed at the last administration would it be as unsettling to you? /

35 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:22:03am

re: #22 Aceofwhat?

I don't disagree. So we're left wondering how the state could justify getting involved in what is clearly a civil libel affair at most. The simplest explanation is that the Tommies weren't officially visiting on the state's behalf, but that they or a superior of theirs were buddies with the vicar. Disgusting, but not as chilling as the State coming down on a citizen with all of the force and power at its disposal...

...i have no idea whether i'm right, but it's what i'd bet if i were a bettor.

They WERE acting on the state's behalf because they ARE representatives of the state.

36 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:22:14am

I guess I should amend my earlier statement. Publishing true statements SHOULD hardly be a crime. In some parts of the world, sadly, it can be.

37 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:23:06am

The article's a little fuzzy, but it sounds as if the author once hosted his blog on some university computer, and is no longer affiliated with the university, making use of their equipment at least questionable.

It also sounds as though Sizer has blown the incident wildly out of proportion.

But from what I gather, the original complaint, though motivated by vindictiveness, had enough merit for the police to look into the matter and "informally" request that the material be removed from the server in question, a request which the author - who was already hosted on another, privately held server - complied with.

Sizer's action and ridiculous reaction notwithstanding, it's worth keeping your house in order, especially when you place yourself in opposition to assholes with a great deal of time and bitterness on their hands.

38 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:23:16am

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

I still don't expect a lot of American bishops to be able to send the police around to talk to bloggers any time soon.


In Utah the local constable is likely to refer a wayward youth to his Bishop. :-)

39 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:23:38am

re: #32 Cato the Elder

This guy may be in real trouble. London is the world's capital for libel suits. Unlike in the US, where truth is an absolute defense against libel and slander charges, in Britain the defendant has to prove that he is innocent of the accusations. Rich sheikhs and others and others have used this to file lawsuits in London that they couldn't win here.

Keep us posted, Charles. The man may need contributions to his legal defense.

What a weird set-up. How would the court keep the accuser from manufacturing statements? At least here the accuser has to prove that a statement DID exist on which the accusation can be made. I wonder how one goes about proving that they DIDN'T make a supposed statement...ugh.

40 Soap_Man  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:24:02am

re: #34 DaddyG

If it were directed at the last administration would it be as unsettling to you? /

Yes.

41 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:24:19am

Speaking of religion and intimidation, here's why those doorstep missionaries are so persistent: The Evangelical Linebacker

Youtube Video
42 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:24:38am

re: #22 Aceofwhat?

I don't disagree. So we're left wondering how the state could justify getting involved in what is clearly a civil libel affair at most. The simplest explanation is that the Tommies weren't officially visiting on the state's behalf, but that they or a superior of theirs were buddies with the vicar. Disgusting, but not as chilling as the State coming down on a citizen with all of the force and power at its disposal...

...i have no idea whether i'm right, but it's what i'd bet if i were a bettor.

According to the article, it sounds as though the legal issue raised was one of improper use of the server where one copy of the author's blog was hosted.

43 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:24:55am

re: #20 Guanxi88

Not so in Great Britain.

Quite right: google Libel Tourism.

44 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:25:07am

re: #39 Aceofwhat?

What a weird set-up. How would the court keep the accuser from manufacturing statements? At least here the accuser has to prove that a statement DID exist on which the accusation can be made. I wonder how one goes about proving that they DIDN'T make a supposed statement...ugh.


We come close to that with Hrassment law in the US. The perception of the offended outweighs the intent of the offender. That never sat well with me.

45 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:25:39am

re: #40 Soap_Man

Yes.


I was snarking and you didn't have to answer that - but it is good to know since you did.

46 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:25:43am

It's different.

The last regime invented this sh*t, Bru.

47 albusteve  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:26:03am

re: #41 The Sanity Inspector

Speaking of religion and intimidation, here's why those doorstep missionaries are so persistent: The Evangelical Linebacker


[Video]

I'm as rude to those people as I can possibly be...very effective

48 claire  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:26:25am

Did I read this right? He got visited by Police and thus ageed to delete the old version of his blog? Why did he delete it? What was in it that he felt he was liable for? Why did he capitulate? If a university has a policy of not allowing their computers to be used for personal stuff, can the police be called to enforce it? If so, can somebody outside the university call the police and report him on this? Doesn't the university have to be the one with the issue with this? Doesn't he get due process? What would have happened to him had he not agreed to delete it? Lots of questions, not enough info.

49 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:26:28am

re: #43 The Sanity Inspector

Quite right: google Libel Tourism.

Sounds similar to War Crimes Tourism.

50 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:26:52am

re: #35 MandyManners

They WERE acting on the state's behalf because they ARE representatives of the state.

Disagree. Representatives of the state not acting on the state's behalf can generally be fought with the state's assistance. If the po-po keeps showing up at my house in what i strongly believe is a civil affair, i'll lawyer up and get on the offensive. If the state condones the po-po showing up at my house, i'm in huuuge trouble.

51 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:27:22am

My son asked me to watch the Judgement at Nuremberg with him last night. I'm not sure I ever watched it before. While it was a fictional movie, the facts of the cases were true.

We can never forget.

Hey, all, how are you this afternoon?

52 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:28:12am

US to lift 21-year ban on haggis

Question the timing.

53 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:29:29am

re: #42 SixDegrees

According to the article, it sounds as though the legal issue raised was one of improper use of the server where one copy of the author's blog was hosted.

Good point. One would think that would be a matter for the university to handle internally...but perhaps in the UK, misuse of university property is a criminal offense given that the universities are fully state-funded.

54 What, me worry?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:29:29am

re: #36 thedopefishlives

I guess I should amend my earlier statement. Publishing true statements SHOULD hardly be a crime. In some parts of the world, sadly, it can be.

I hope Harry stands his ground. Of course, if his site is on a university computer, I'd just move it.

Would be interesting for Harry to let himself be sued. All of it would come out against Sizer. Would Sizer really take it that far? I don't think that's something you want all over the papers.

55 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:29:44am

re: #52 Ben Hur

US to lift 21-year ban on haggis

Question the timing.

The influence of Big Celts plus the renewed interest in cheap cuts of meat have created the perfect storm for Haggis. Chicken feet are next on the menu.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:29:51am

re: #52 Ben Hur

US to lift 21-year ban on haggis

Question the timing.

Haggis smuggling? And all this time I've been smuggling hash from Turkey.

57 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:30:17am

CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted

But hey! The Pakistanis, Egyptians, Indians, etc etc etc etc LOVE IT.

58 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:30:26am

re: #19 DaddyG

Thought crimes. Looks like the UK is flying headlong into the brave new world. (apologies for the mixed literary reference)

The UK libertarian blog Samizdata has been on cases like this for while.

59 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:30:27am

re: #50 Aceofwhat?

Disagree. Representatives of the state not acting on the state's behalf can generally be fought with the state's assistance. If the po-po keeps showing up at my house in what i strongly believe is a civil affair, i'll lawyer up and get on the offensive. If the state condones the po-po showing up at my house, i'm in huuuge trouble.

To me, the point is that it is chilling to free speech if the cops show up at your door.

60 RogueOne  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:30:43am

re: #11 SanFranciscoZionist

Based on what?


Dunno. Maybe...
This:
TSA vs. Blogger: [Link: www.wired.com...]
This:
Prosecutor vs. Innocence Project students
[Link: jonathanturley.org...]
This:
Blasphemy laws
[Link: www.iheu.org...]
This:
President Vs. Docs
[Link: www.aapsonline.org...]
or maybe this:
[Link: www.rcfp.org...]

I could go on and on but I'll settle for giving you just some places to start reading. You can quit when you get concerned:
[Link: www.eff.org...]
[Link: www.citmedialaw.org...]
[Link: www.thefire.org...]
[Link: carlosmiller.com...]

61 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:31:14am

re: #52 Ben Hur

US to lift 21-year ban on haggis

Question the timing.

A certain Scottish Lizard is coming to town just when the ban is lifted.

Mmmm......Something tells me there is more hear that only I understand.

62 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:31:29am

re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar

Haggis smuggling? And all this time I've been smuggling hash from Turkey.

Is Turkish corned beef that good? /

63 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:31:41am

re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar

Haggis smuggling? And all this time I've been smuggling hash from Turkey.

Vancouver is much closer!

64 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:32:04am

re: #61 Ben Hur

A certain Scottish Lizard is coming to town just when the ban is lifted.

Mmmm...Something tells me there is more hear that only I understand.

HERE you idiot.

65 albusteve  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:32:19am

re: #57 Ben Hur

CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted

But hey! The Pakistanis, Egyptians, Indians, etc etc etc etc LOVE IT.

check out that picture...speaking to grade school kids from a podium with teleprompters...hilarious!

66 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:32:56am

re: #54 marjoriemoon

I hope Harry stands his ground. Of course, if his site is on a university computer, I'd just move it.

Would be interesting for Harry to let himself be sued. All of it would come out against Sizer. Would Sizer really take it that far? I don't think that's something you want all over the papers.

Sizer would have more to lose overall.

67 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:33:13am

re: #64 Ben Hur

HERE you idiot.

Where?

68 What, me worry?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:33:19am

re: #66 Ben Hur

Sizer would have more to lose overall.

Exactly my point.

69 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:33:26am

re: #65 albusteve

check out that picture...speaking to grade school kids from a podium with teleprompters...hilarious!

Now now. That was just for the press present.

There is video in the classrooms.

No TOTUS.

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:33:29am

re: #65 albusteve

check out that picture...speaking to grade school kids from a podium with teleprompters...hilarious!

Let me be clear...today we are having corn dogs.

71 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:34:04am

re: #60 RogueOne For quick reference (and because I'm lazy) are any of these cases based on US law that has been upheld or are they in violation of the Constitution and current cases?

In my mind they are only an imminent threat if they are being upheld or have a serious chance of clearing a legislative body to become law.

Reactionaries or tin pot dictators posing as local authorities are a different matter and often find themselves shut down on appeal.

72 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:34:10am

re: #67 MandyManners

Where?

Sorry.

Didn't realize I typed that out-loud.

73 Soap_Man  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:34:27am

re: #57 Ben Hur

CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted

But hey! The Pakistanis, Egyptians, Indians, etc etc etc etc LOVE IT.

My God, who are the 4 percent that believe NO money was wasted? Even somebody who completely supports the stimulus must understand that at least some waste is unavoidable when that kind of money is spent.

74 RogueOne  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:34:28am

re: #29 Soap_Man

No, I can't imagine that happening here. What are you implying? (I'm assuming this is somehow directed at the current administrations, an accusation I find to be ... unsettling.)

Maybe you take your party affiliation too seriously? I never blamed, or even hinted at blaming, anyone in particular. The erosion of our rights is a bipartisan issue.

Everyone says they're for free speech...until someone says something they don't like. Look at the big blow up over the Citizens United ruling.

75 What, me worry?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:34:35am

Can Harry host his site on a non-British site? An American company perhaps?

76 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:34:48am

re: #65 albusteve

check out that picture...speaking to grade school kids from a podium with teleprompters...hilarious!


See Dick. See Jane. See Dick next page run.

77 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:35:25am

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let me be clear...today we are having corn dogs.

hey, that's not a corn dog... that's haggis on a stick.

78 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:35:54am

re: #73 Soap_Man

My God, who are the 4 percent that believe NO money was wasted? Even somebody who completely supports the stimulus must understand that at least some waste is unavoidable when that kind of money is spent.


In a word-

Recipient.

79 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:06am

re: #74 RogueOne

SuperBowl! I picked the score to be 31-17 Friday night. I was one point off..

80 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:07am

re: #59 MandyManners

To me, the point is that it is chilling to free speech if the cops show up at your door.

You're right about that. i'm picking nits. it's a bad habit. je suis desole...

81 ryannon  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:14am

re: #66 Ben Hur

Sizer would have more to lose overall.

The blogosphere (starting with LGF) should take this up with maximum visibility.

Maximum butthurt for Sizer.

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:17am

re: #77 brookly red

hey, that's not a corn dog... that's haggis on a stick.

If you can pull that off I still won't eat it!!!

83 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:25am

re: #73 Soap_Man

My God, who are the 4 percent that believe NO money was wasted? Even somebody who completely supports the stimulus must understand that at least some waste is unavoidable when that kind of money is spent.

There are plenty of people who believe that taxes and government expenditures are themselves good things, nevermind their stated ends. "Doing" "something" is all that's needed to float their boats.

84 albusteve  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:36am

re: #73 Soap_Man

My God, who are the 4 percent that believe NO money was wasted? Even somebody who completely supports the stimulus must understand that at least some waste is unavoidable when that kind of money is spent.

BO and his advisers

85 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:40am

I remember reading something about libel laws in the colonial America. IIRC, it had more to do with perception of damage to reputation than the truth.

Just one more reason we are extraordinarly lucky that a couple of handful of men did what they did in the mid 1700's.

86 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:40am

re: #75 marjoriemoon

Can Harry host his site on a non-British site? An American company perhaps?


Not secure. Try Google.China /

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:36:45am

re: #73 Soap_Man

My God, who are the 4 percent that believe NO money was wasted? Even somebody who completely supports the stimulus must understand that at least some waste is unavoidable when that kind of money is spent.

I think that a poll could be put in the field to prove that four percent of Americans believe ANYTHING.

88 Soap_Man  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:37:21am

re: #74 RogueOne

Maybe you take your party affiliation too seriously?

Don't be so confident that you know my party affiliation. You may be surprised.

I never blamed, or even hinted at blaming, anyone in particular. The erosion of our rights is a bipartisan issue.

You're right. It was wrong for me to assume. Statement retracted.

89 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:37:27am

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that a poll could be put in the field to prove that four percent of Americans believe ANYTHING.

I betcha a bridge that's closer to 25%...
:/

90 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:37:31am

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let me be clear...today we are having corn dogs.

"Sir, will there be tater-tots?"

91 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:38:22am

re: #80 Aceofwhat?

You're right about that. i'm picking nits. it's a bad habit. je suis desole...

Trish, you spoke French!

92 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:38:27am

re: #90 MandyManners

"Sir, will there be tater-tots?"

depends...
Is mommy or daddy in a union?

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:38:31am

re: #90 MandyManners

"Sir, will there be tater-tots?"

All your tots are mine.

94 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:38:45am

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that a poll could be put in the field to prove that four percent of Americans believe ANYTHING.

What percentage of people believe they have been abducted by aliens?

95 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:38:53am

re: #52 Ben Hur

US to lift 21-year ban on haggis

Question the timing.

Think maybe Iceweasel and Jimmah are coming back to the States, eh? What evil has Soros put them up to this time, I wonder?

96 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:39:31am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

All your tots are mine.

In bed.

97 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:39:33am

re: #94 cliffster

What percentage of people believe they have been abducted by aliens?

Listen to Coast to Coast AM and find out.

98 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:39:42am

re: #94 cliffster

What percentage of people believe they have been abducted by aliens?

THAT would be an interesting comparison.

99 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:39:50am

re: #94 cliffster

What percentage of people believe they have been abducted by aliens?


OUt of the general population or those who have actually been abducted? /

100 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:40:07am

re: #90 MandyManners

"Sir, will there be tater-tots?"

"We're getting reports that the kitchen ladies will substitute snack pizza for the corn dogs. We know they have the capability."

101 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:40:08am

re: #94 cliffster

What percentage of people believe they have been abducted by aliens?

What percentage have been abducted by aliens?

102 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:40:34am

4% doesn't even cover the cost of paperclips. Bob knows, they are wasted.

103 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:40:50am

re: #99 DaddyG

OUt of the general population or those who have actually been abducted? /

/huh? abduction deniers now?

104 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:02am

re: #101 MandyManners

What percentage have been abducted by aliens?

I thought I was being abducted by an alien in Boston. Turns out, the cabbie was just taking a short-cut to get around rush-hour traffic downtown.

105 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:04am

re: #100 The Sanity Inspector

"We're getting reports that the kitchen ladies will substitute snack pizza for the corn dogs. We know they have the capability."

GIMME' THE DAMN TATER-TOTS!

*hurls snack pizza*

106 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:05am

re: #101 MandyManners

What percentage have been abducted by aliens?

HOW many are aliens?

107 RogueOne  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:11am

re: #71 DaddyG

Most of them are just pushing the line of what the govt determines is allowable. The TSA gave up right away and FIRE constantly files lawsuits against a variety of universities for their free speech codes. OTOH, police are making arresting photographers a habit. The illinois case I linked is a fishing expedition that will eventually get tossed, probably, although in a case I didn't link to in AZ the judge ruled with the PD.

My only point is it's only a matter of time before the abuses we see in europe are common occurances here. We have a first amendment that protects us but it's only as strong as the populace keeps it.

108 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:24am

re: #95 Guanxi88

Think maybe Iceweasel and Jimmah are coming back to the States, eh? What evil has Soros put them up to this time, I wonder?

My point exactly!

109 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:31am

lunch

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:41:39am

I didn't mind being abducted. It was all the probing that sucked.

111 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:00am

re: #107 RogueOne

Most of them are just pushing the line of what the govt determines is allowable. The TSA gave up right away and FIRE constantly files lawsuits against a variety of universities for their free speech codes. OTOH, police are making arresting photographers a habit. The illinois case I linked is a fishing expedition that will eventually get tossed, probably, although in a case I didn't link to in AZ the judge ruled with the PD.

My only point is it's only a matter of time before the abuses we see in europe are common occurances here. We have a first amendment that protects us but it's only as strong as the populace keeps it.

IMHO, the 1st amendment is only as strong as the 2nd.

112 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:07am

re: #2 thedopefishlives

Thats why the First Amendment matters. They do not have it.

113 RogueOne  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:11am

re: #79 HoosierHoops

SuperBowl! I picked the score to be 31-17 Friday night. I was one point off..

I was concerned about facing NO until I watched the late game. If they play like that again the colts will walk away with the trophy!

114 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:11am

re: #106 ggt

HOW many are aliens?

*ahem*

Don't you mean "Undocumented"?

115 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:15am

re: #91 MandyManners

Trish, you spoke French!

Oh, Gomez...

116 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:33am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

I didn't mind being abducted. It was all the probing that sucked.

C'mon don't lie. You know you liked it

117 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:39am

Well here we go... Alien Abduction from Wikipedia.

The precise number of abductees is uncertain. One of the earliest studies of abductions found 1,700 claimants, while contested surveys argued that 5-6% of the general population might have been abducted.[4]

118 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:42:59am

re: #114 Ben Hur

*ahem*

Don't you mean "Undocumented"?

Well, no, I mean actual aliens.

:)

119 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:43:25am

Evolution Polls are scarier than the alien abduction polls
:/

120 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:43:30am

re: #117 DaddyG

Well here we go... Alien Abduction from Wikipedia.

Hey!

Nobody believes tagged Elephants when they get back to herd either.

121 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:43:32am

re: #118 ggt

Well, no, I mean actual aliens.

:)

Non-native Terrans

122 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:43:58am

re: #116 cliffster

C'mon don't lie. You know you liked it

I was drunk and needed the money.

123 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:44:03am

re: #121 cliffster

Non-native Terrans

Now, we have to be PC?

:)

124 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:44:25am

re: #121 cliffster

Non-native Terrans

Belters?
;)

125 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:45:00am

re: #113 RogueOne

I was concerned about facing NO until I watched the late game. If they play like that again the colts will walk away with the trophy!

I'm dying my hair blue next week...

126 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:45:24am

Prawnophobia.

127 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:45:25am

re: #107 RogueOne
Thanks for doing my homework for me. I agree the Constitution is only as strong as we the people make it. Americans have a stubborn independent streak and hopefully we won't give it up any time soon. I fear for my children's generation however. Their school environment tends to teach indidivual liberty as an abstraction and demonstrate that they really don't have many basic rights that the Consitution affords them and that the courts have upheld (unreasonable search and seisure, expression...).

128 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:45:34am

re: #125 HoosierHoops

I'm dying my hair blue next week...

To look like a non-native terran?

129 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:18am

re: #127 DaddyG

Thanks for doing my homework for me. I agree the Constitution is only as strong as we the people make it. Americans have a stubborn independent streak and hopefully we won't give it up any time soon. I fear for my children's generation however. Their school environment tends to teach indidivual liberty as an abstraction and demonstrate that they really don't have many basic rights that the Consitution affords them and that the courts have upheld (unreasonable search and seisure, expression...).

Yet kids seem more selfish and self-absorbed than ever.

130 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:28am

re: #14 MandyManners

The mere fact that a private individual could use the power of the state to silence a critic is chilling.

It is Great Britain after all where politicians can sue for libel if you are a bit to free in your critiques of them.
Of course that is a civil matter. It seems to me someone should look into why the local police are spending their time in this manner.

131 RogueOne  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:32am

I have to run folks, enjoy the rest of the day.

132 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:36am

re: #125 HoosierHoops

I'm dying my hair blue next week...

/ I heard that the alien abductors have a thing for blue hair...

133 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:40am

re: #75 marjoriemoon

Can Harry host his site on a non-British site? An American company perhaps?

Referring again to Harry's article, he already has arranged alternative hosting on a private server. The police didn't even bother issuing a warning, let along pressing charges.

134 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:45am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

I didn't mind being abducted. It was all the probing that sucked.


Hmmm. Vacuum probes? That must be a new feature. Perhaps they found human orifaces to be messy?

135 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:46:51am

re: #113 RogueOne

I was concerned about facing NO until I watched the late game. If they play like that again the colts will walk away with the trophy!

The Vikings had like 5 fumbles and two interceptions, and they still went to overtime. I don't see the Colts coughing it up like that.

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:47:04am

re: #125 HoosierHoops

I'm dying my hair blue next week...

2 seasons ago when the Rays went to the WS I got a mohawk, so no snark from me!!

137 Bagua  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:47:08am

This is shocking, didn't the blogger LionHeart also allege the police were after him for his blogger? I don't know the details, he is a bit of a nutter to be sure as well.

138 Varek Raith  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:47:14am

re: #132 brookly red

/ I heard that the alien abductors have a thing for blue hair...

Are said aliens hot and female???
/ducks

139 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:47:28am

re: #134 DaddyG

Hmmm. Vacuum probes? That must be a new feature. Perhaps they found human orifaces to be messy?

OOOOOOH YUK!

140 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:47:32am

re: #128 ggt

To look like a non-native terran?

re: #132 brookly red

/ I heard that the alien abductors have a thing for blue hair...

If only I could get the smurfs to stop calling me.

141 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:48:22am

re: #140 HoosierHoops

If only I could get the smurfs to stop calling me.

Will they follow you when you leave Indiana or are they stopped at the border?

142 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:48:26am

re: #138 Varek Raith

Are said aliens hot and female???
/ducks

well kinda but they are also 9 feet tall...

143 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:48:26am

re: #125 HoosierHoops

I'm dying my hair blue next week...

Why stop there?

Youtube Video

or

Youtube Video
144 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:48:37am

re: #121 cliffster

Non-native Terrans

re: #124 Varek Raith

Belters?
;)

Austinites.

145 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:49:06am

re: #129 ggt

Yet kids seem more selfish and self-absorbed than ever.


I have many theories about that. If you give them everything they want yet nothing they need the behavior tends to reflect that. Putting kids in an overprotective/paternalistic system will drive the bad behavior underground but it won't address the root cause. Meanwhile the responsible kids pay the price without the crime.

146 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:49:22am

re: #144 Guanxi88

Austinites.

Ha! You got that right.

147 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:49:52am

re: #140 HoosierHoops

If only I could get the smurfs to stop calling me.

oh smurfs huh... have you considered adopting a Doberman?

148 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:50:25am

Isn't there a General Accounting Principle or factor of administrative waste? Not counting graft and corruption.

149 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:50:28am

re: #123 ggt

Now, we have to be PC?

:)

Who knows? Be nice to 'em, and maybe we won't have the Vogons building a hyperspace expressway through us.

150 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:50:34am

re: #142 brookly red

well kinda but they are also 9 feet tall...


Snu snu.

151 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:50:41am

Another nontroversy flops.....
Ellie Light responds: Prolific pro-Obama letter writer talks about her online critics

152 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:50:54am

re: #132 brookly red

/ I heard that the alien abductors have a thing for blue hair...

/but can they see it through the tinfoil?

153 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:00am

re: #148 ggt

Isn't there a General Accounting Principle or factor of administrative waste? Not counting graft and corruption.

"petty cash"

154 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:22am

re: #149 The Sanity Inspector

Who knows? Be nice to 'em, and maybe we won't have the Vogons building a hyperspace expressway through us.

Does that mean we have to listen to them recite poetry? I don't think I could do that.

155 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:26am

re: #150 DaddyG

Snu snu.

Bea Arthur, femputer. Easily one of her best roles, but takes a back-seat to her role in History of the World. Funny, funny lady.

156 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:31am

re: #153 cliffster

"petty cash"

ah!

157 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:47am

re: #151 Killgore Trout

Never mind that. Obama used a teleprompter again today! Outrage! My Pet Goat! New World Order! Seethe, seethe, seethe!

158 subsailor68  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:48am

Hmm...from the above posts, it appears that about 4% of people believe there's no waste associated with the stimulus money, while between 5 and 6% believe they've been abducted by aliens.

In other news, approximately 1/300 millionth of the population (some guy named subsailor68) believes that all those people should refrain from having children.

159 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:51:59am

re: #55 DaddyG

The influence of Big Celts plus the renewed interest in cheap cuts of meat have created the perfect storm for Haggis. Chicken feet are next on the menu.

Chicken feet are already on the menu if you go eat dim sum.

160 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:52:04am

re: #16 thedopefishlives

This, really. It's true that you're not allowed to publish just anything you want, but publishing factually true statements is hardly a crime. Libel cases have to demonstrate malice and falsehood; it's not libelous if it's true.


Don't forget malice. Malice is difficult to prove.

161 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:52:19am

re: #159 oaktree

Chicken feet are already on the menu if you go eat dim sum.

Quite tasty they are, too!

162 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:52:20am

re: #151 Killgore Trout

Another nontroversy flops...
Ellie Light responds: Prolific pro-Obama letter writer talks about her online critics


This strengthens my theory that the loudest among us have adapted to online forums in a big way. The good news is that could also explain the rash of lockstep wingnuts posting on blogs.

163 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:52:41am

re: #159 oaktree

Chicken feet are already on the menu if you go eat dim sum.

go for the jellyfish!

164 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:53:02am

re: #106 ggt

HOW many are aliens?

There's an article about that in the Dead Thread.

165 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:53:07am

re: #161 Guanxi88

Quite tasty they are, too!

OOOH YUK!

166 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:53:53am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Never mind that. Obama used a teleprompter again today! Outrage! My Pet Goat! New World Order! Seethe, seethe, seethe!

What sounded like seething and outrage prior to Brown's Senate victory is now sounding a lot more like ridicule.

167 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:54:05am

re: #165 ggt

OOOH YUK!

No, really, they're quite good. I was very skeptical, but they surprised me. It's the sauce, of course, that makes the dish - otherwise, it's just skin, tendons, and some bones - like Madonna.

168 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:54:08am

re: #159 oaktree

Chicken feet are already on the menu if you go eat dim sum.

You will never catch me, dead or alive, eating chicken feet. Of course, I once said the same thing about sushi. Amazing what a few Sapporos will do..

169 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:54:32am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Never mind that. Obama used a teleprompter again today! Outrage! My Pet Goat! New World Order! Seethe, seethe, seethe!

at least he could use a kindel & not be so obvious...

170 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:54:45am

re: #162 DaddyG

This strengthens my theory that the loudest among us have adapted to online forums in a big way. The good news is that could also explain the rash of lockstep wingnuts posting on blogs.

The Paulians, FreeRepublic and Kos kidz have been doing this for years. It's nothing new. It was completely stupid for all the wingnut blogs to make a conspiracy out of it. They were certain that these emails were coming directly out of the White House (with absolutely no evidence).

171 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:54:57am

re: #161 Guanxi88

Quite tasty they are, too!

I'm really not interested in eating anything that spent it's life stomping around in chicken shit.

172 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:55:06am

re: #168 cliffster

You will never catch me, dead or alive, eating chicken feet. Of course, I once said the same thing about sushi. Amazing what a few Sapporos will do..

re: #168 cliffster

You will never catch me, dead or alive, eating chicken feet. Of course, I once said the same thing about sushi. Amazing what a few Sapporos will do..

kanpai!

173 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:55:12am

re: #167 Guanxi88

No, really, they're quite good. I was very skeptical, but they surprised me. It's the sauce, of course, that makes the dish - otherwise, it's just skin, tendons, and some bones - like Madonna.

That's fuckin funny.

174 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:55:28am

re: #167 Guanxi88

No, really, they're quite good. I was very skeptical, but they surprised me. It's the sauce, of course, that makes the dish - otherwise, it's just skin, tendons, and some bones - like Madonna.

DOUBLE ooooohhh YUK!

You didn't have to mention Madonna. I may wretch now.

175 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:55:33am

re: #170 Killgore Trout

The Paulians, FreeRepublic and Kos kidz have been doing this for years. It's nothing new. It was completely stupid for all the wingnut blogs to make a conspiracy out of it. They were certain that these emails were coming directly out of the White House (with absolutely no evidence).

Love is blind.. hate is blind...

176 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:56:00am

re: #169 brookly red

at least he could use a kindel & not be so obvious...

Why would he want to hide it? Why's he always so secretive? What about transparency? OMG, What is he hiding?
/Mah brainz asplode!

177 drymocke  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:56:01am

I saw something that looked like duck feet (webbed) going out the door when I picked up my Pho Bo

178 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:56:31am

re: #170 Killgore Trout

The Paulians, FreeRepublic and Kos kidz have been doing this for years. It's nothing new. It was completely stupid for all the wingnut blogs to make a conspiracy out of it. They were certain that these emails were coming directly out of the White House (with absolutely no evidence).

WHACKOS from all sides have been doing it. No reason to single out a single sub-category. We need tom be aware of all of them.

179 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:56:37am

re: #177 drymocke

I saw something that looked like duck feet (webbed) going out the door when I picked up my Pho Bo

Duck feet, too, make a tasty little snackerel. Good with garlic.

180 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:56:55am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Why would he want to hide it? Why's he always so secretive? What about transparency? OMG, What is he hiding?
/Mah brainz asplode!

touche.

181 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:57:03am

re: #170 Killgore Trout
It reflects a sense of overinflated self importance to believe that the White House or any other conspiracy theory rich target is after "them".

It could be kind of fun for a White House intern to write personal notes to bloggers asking things like "what exactly did you mean by ____ and can you elaborate?"

182 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:57:51am

re: #171 SixDegrees

I'm really not interested in eating anything that spent it's life stomping around in chicken shit.


The legislature is relieved that they won't be facing the threat of cannibalism at your hands.

183 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:58:06am

100% astroturfing.

And everyone does it.

If you think there aren't operatives online from both parties (or any other movement) on blogs, comment sections, etc etc etc, you're crazy.

184 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:58:07am

re: #167 Guanxi88

No, really, they're quite good. I was very skeptical, but they surprised me. It's the sauce, of course, that makes the dish - otherwise, it's just skin, tendons, and some bones - like Madonna.

Yep. The feet are the matrix upon which rests the tasty sauce... [drool]

185 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:58:08am

re: #177 drymocke

I saw something that looked like duck feet (webbed) going out the door when I picked up my Pho Bo

Aflac! Aflac, Afl... Arrggguh!

186 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:58:51am

re: #170 Killgore Trout

The Paulians, FreeRepublic and Kos kidz have been doing this for years. It's nothing new. It was completely stupid for all the wingnut blogs to make a conspiracy out of it. They were certain that these emails were coming directly out of the White House (with absolutely no evidence).

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Axelrod.

187 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:59:03am

re: #183 Ben Hur

100% astroturfing.

And everyone does it.

If you think there aren't operatives online from both parties (or any other movement) on blogs, comment sections, etc etc etc, you're crazy.

I really think the amateurs are so busy providing the content that the campaigns and parties don't need to feed the beast all that much.

188 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:59:04am

re: #185 brookly red

Aflac! Aflac, Afl... Arrggguh!

...and the farmer says: "Well sir, a pig like that, you don't eat all at once."

189 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:59:15am

Hmm... Perhaps Paris Hilton adopted small pigs as pets so that she could start eating out at Korean places...

/

190 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:59:27am

Escargot is delicious. Why are snails delicious? Because you drown them in garlic and butter. And put it on a tastly little piece of toast. I'll have plate of escargot, 86 the escargot

191 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:59:50am

re: #185 brookly red

Aflac! Aflac, Afl... Arrggguh!

Was this this team? They have quite a racket, I'd be afraid.

192 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 11:59:54am

Waiter! There are snails on this plate!

193 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:00:06pm

re: #188 Guanxi88

...and the farmer says: "Well sir, a pig like that, you don't eat all at once."

Hah! in Wahington pork eats you!

194 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:00:10pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Why would he want to hide it? Why's he always so secretive? What about transparency? OMG, What is he hiding?
/Mah brainz asplode!

This tactic of yours is beginning to remind me of Hillary's cackle after uncomfortable questions.

195 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:00:19pm

re: #192 oaktree

Waiter! There are snails on this plate!

Bring us your freshest wine!

196 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:03:02pm

re: #190 cliffster

Escargot is delicious. Why are snails delicious? Because you drown them in garlic and butter. And put it on a tastly little piece of toast. I'll have plate of escargot, 86 the escargot

Try black bean sauce at a fifth of the price...

197 What, me worry?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:03:50pm

re: #190 cliffster

Escargot is delicious. Why are snails delicious? Because you drown them in garlic and butter. And put it on a tastly little piece of toast. I'll have plate of escargot, 86 the escargot

You think at these prices, you could keep the snails off the plate!

198 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:03:50pm

There's a joke President Reagan told about the way collectivist politicians treat rich people: A traveling salesman stays overnight with a farm family. When the family gathers to eat there's a pig seated at the table. And the pig has three medals hanging around his neck and a peg leg. The salesman says, "Um, I see you have a pig having dinner with you."

"Yes," says the farmer. "That's because he's a very special pig. You see those medals around his neck? Well, the first medal is from when our youngest son fell in the pond, and he was drowning, and that pig swam out and saved his life. The second medal, that's from when the barn caught fire and our little daughter was trapped in there and the pig ran inside, carried her out and saved her life. And the third medal, that's from when our oldest boy was cornered in the stock yard by a mean bull, and that pig ran under the fence and bit the bull on the tail and saved the boy's life."

"Yes," says the salesman, "I can see why you let that pig sit right at the table and have dinner with you. And I can see why you awarded him the medals. But how did he get the peg leg?"

"Well," says, the farmer, "a pig like that--you don't eat him all at once."

199 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:03:58pm

re: #195 Guanxi88

First they didn't have the bamboo umbrellas for the drinks, and now snails on the plate!

200 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:05:02pm

re: #199 oaktree

First they didn't have the bamboo umbrellas for the drinks, and now snails on the plate!

Wasn't snails on a plate the French langugage version of that Samuel L Jackson movie?

201 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:05:12pm

re: #19 DaddyG

Thought crimes. Looks like the UK is flying headlong into the brave new world. (apologies for the mixed literary reference)

re: #138 Varek Raith

Are said aliens hot and female???
/ducks

I was wondering the same :)

202 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:05:14pm

re: #199 oaktree

First they didn't have the bamboo umbrellas for the drinks, and now snails on the plate!

Ya know, they used to do the best cup-of-pizza anywhere.

203 What, me worry?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:05:48pm

You're all a bunch of jerks :)

204 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:05:56pm

re: #199 oaktree

First they didn't have the bamboo umbrellas for the drinks, and now snails on the plate!

This wine is old! Bring me some newer wine!

205 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:06:25pm

re: #203 marjoriemoon

You're all a bunch of jerks :)


Consensus.

206 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:06:49pm

re: #48 claire

Did I read this right? He got visited by Police and thus ageed to delete the old version of his blog? Why did he delete it? What was in it that he felt he was liable for? Why did he capitulate? If a university has a policy of not allowing their computers to be used for personal stuff, can the police be called to enforce it? If so, can somebody outside the university call the police and report him on this? Doesn't the university have to be the one with the issue with this? Doesn't he get due process? What would have happened to him had he not agreed to delete it? Lots of questions, not enough info.

Don't ever confuse the USA and our laws with any other country. We are the only truly free nation. England may seem free like we are, in reality,they are anything but. Due process anywhere else does not mean what it does in the USA.

207 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:06:56pm

re: #205 DaddyG

Consensus.

Is that a bad thing?

208 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:07:26pm

re: #206 CapeCoddah

Don't ever confuse the USA and our laws with any other country. We are the only truly free nation. England may seem free like we are, in reality,they are anything but. Due process anywhere else does not mean what it does in the USA.

I regret that AI only have but one ding to up.

209 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:07:29pm

re: #200 DaddyG

Wasn't snails on a plate the French langugage version of that Samuel L Jackson movie?

Ha! a complete rip-off. Chaucer wrote the idea ages ago:
[Link: houseoffame.blogspot.com...]

So whan the ship had on the ocean saylede for two houres and was on the rollinge wawes of the see, anon the lockes of the caskes breste forth and the snakes weren loosed. Right so the hoolde of the shippe was fulle of al maner of serpentes that hisse and crawl vpon the erthe, such as amphisbanae and aspides, vipers the which aren sum tyme called berardes, and bosk-addres and cheldires whos bite causeth shakynge and sodein deeth, egges-wermes and water-naddres, slow-wormes and ophites and manye othir thinges that movede serpentli. And syn thei had brethede depe of the Far-Amoun, thei were wood as if thei weren on cracke.

Thus cam the snakes in the coache seccioun of the vessel, and ther was much noyse and screminge and manye EXPENDABLES weren eten and in the naughtye partes ybitten. The ANTISOCIALE ENGLISHMAN dide throwe the dogge of the PRIORESSE to the serpentes for to make hem delaye, and yet he too was eten by a grete wyrm. And the SQUIRE did showe that for all of his bling he was but a cowarde. And the WOMAN WYTH A BABYE AND AN ACCENT dide scape wyth her babye and her accent.

210 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:07:44pm

re: #206 CapeCoddah

Don't ever confuse the USA and our laws with any other country. We are the only truly free nation. England may seem free like we are, in reality,they are anything but. Due process anywhere else does not mean what it does in the USA.

Huzzah.

211 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:08:08pm

re: #59 MandyManners

The UK does not have what we consider "free speech", Mandy.

212 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:08:40pm

re: #207 ggt

Is that a bad thing?

At least we know what our special purpose is...

in bed. :D

213 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:08:59pm

re: #209 Guanxi88

"naughtye partes ybitten" - nice reference. Ding!

214 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:09:00pm

The Anthrax Attacks Remain Unsolved

215 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:09:02pm

re: #209 Guanxi88

Ha! a complete rip-off. Chaucer wrote the idea ages ago:
[Link: houseoffame.blogspot.com...]

So whan the ship had on the ocean saylede for two houres and was on the rollinge wawes of the see, anon the lockes of the caskes breste forth and the snakes weren loosed. Right so the hoolde of the shippe was fulle of al maner of serpentes that hisse and crawl vpon the erthe, such as amphisbanae and aspides, vipers the which aren sum tyme called berardes, and bosk-addres and cheldires whos bite causeth shakynge and sodein deeth, egges-wermes and water-naddres, slow-wormes and ophites and manye othir thinges that movede serpentli. And syn thei had brethede depe of the Far-Amoun, thei were wood as if thei weren on cracke.

Thus cam the snakes in the coache seccioun of the vessel, and ther was much noyse and screminge and manye EXPENDABLES weren eten and in the naughtye partes ybitten. The ANTISOCIALE ENGLISHMAN dide throwe the dogge of the PRIORESSE to the serpentes for to make hem delaye, and yet he too was eten by a grete wyrm. And the SQUIRE did showe that for all of his bling he was but a cowarde. And the WOMAN WYTH A BABYE AND AN ACCENT dide scape wyth her babye and her accent.

Didn't Chaucer have spell-check?

216 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:09:27pm

The Cro-Magnon type who discovered that you could eat snails must have been pretty damn hungry.

217 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:09:43pm

re: #209 Guanxi88

Ha! a complete rip-off. Chaucer wrote the idea ages ago:
[Link: houseoffame.blogspot.com...]

So whan the ship had on the ocean saylede for two houres and was on the rollinge wawes of the see, anon the lockes of the caskes breste forth and the snakes weren loosed. Right so the hoolde of the shippe was fulle of al maner of serpentes that hisse and crawl vpon the erthe, such as amphisbanae and aspides, vipers the which aren sum tyme called berardes, and bosk-addres and cheldires whos bite causeth shakynge and sodein deeth, egges-wermes and water-naddres, slow-wormes and ophites and manye othir thinges that movede serpentli. And syn thei had brethede depe of the Far-Amoun, thei were wood as if thei weren on cracke.

Thus cam the snakes in the coache seccioun of the vessel, and ther was much noyse and screminge and manye EXPENDABLES weren eten and in the naughtye partes ybitten. The ANTISOCIALE ENGLISHMAN dide throwe the dogge of the PRIORESSE to the serpentes for to make hem delaye, and yet he too was eten by a grete wyrm. And the SQUIRE did showe that for all of his bling he was but a cowarde. And the WOMAN WYTH A BABYE AND AN ACCENT dide scape wyth her babye and her accent.

I don't think there has been anything truly original since Oedipus.

218 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:09:44pm

re: #215 MandyManners

Didn't Chaucer have spell-check?


No he had "Speele cheque"

219 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:10:01pm

re: #215 MandyManners

Didn't Chaucer have spell-check?

Ha! Chaucer barely had a language.

220 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:10:10pm

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

The Cro-Magnon type who discovered that you could eat snails must have been pretty damn hungry.


...or a very slow runner...

221 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:10:13pm

re: #211 CapeCoddah

The UK does not have what we consider "free speech", Mandy.

Oh, I agree. I was going back in forth in my mind between the case at hand and the case in which the TSA showed up on that blogger's door-step.

222 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:10:49pm

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

The Cro-Magnon type who discovered that you could eat snails must have been pretty damn hungry.

Or, French.

223 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:11:15pm

re: #218 DaddyG

No he had "Speele cheque"

Brilliant.

224 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:11:35pm

re: #222 MandyManners

Or, French.


You are confusing him with Filet-Mignon Man

225 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:11:54pm

re: #194 Ben Hur

This tactic of yours is beginning to remind me of Hillary's cackle after uncomfortable questions.

What was the uncomfortable question? Is it uncomfortable to me that right wing blogs pushed another bogus and easily debunked conspiracy theory? They do this every week. It's stupid. No matter how many times it blows up in their faces they just move on to the next easily debunked conspiracy theory. It's not uncomfortable to me at all. I find it laughable.

226 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:00pm

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

The Cro-Magnon type who discovered that you could eat snails must have been pretty damn hungry.

re: #222 MandyManners

Or, French.

French and English cuisines do share this sorta "Oh yeah? I dare you to eat THIS!" aspect to them.

227 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:04pm

re: #219 Guanxi88

Ha! Chaucer barely had a language.

I bet he was a fun person.

228 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:08pm

Obama's Approval Most Polarized for First-Year President

Warning: Results of this poll may make the poll illegitimate.

229 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:10pm

re: #224 ralphieboy

You are confusing him with Filet-Mignon Man

ralphie --you made me smile.

LMAO

230 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:23pm

re: #169 brookly red

at least he could use a kindel & not be so obvious...

I guess is we have a choice.

1. GW who refused to use a teleprompter and consequently provided much amusement for the peasants chuckling over his latest gaff.

OR

2. Obama who needs a teleprompter even whilst in a classroom in order to continue to sound like the great orator we have all come to love and adore.

Which is it folks?

231 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:37pm

re: #226 Guanxi88

French and English cuisines do share this sorta "Oh yeah? I dare you to eat THIS!" aspect to them.


The Scots would deep-fry them...

232 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:39pm

re: #224 ralphieboy

You are confusing him with Filet-Mignon Man

That's a far cry from haggis.

233 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:12:49pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

What was the uncomfortable question? Is it uncomfortable to me that right wing blogs pushed another bogus and easily debunked conspiracy theory? They do this every week. It's stupid. No matter how many times it blows up in their faces they just move on to the next easily debunked conspiracy theory. It's not uncomfortable to me at all. I find it laughable.

Whatever makes sense to you, KT.

234 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:13:08pm

re: #226 Guanxi88

French and English cuisines do share this sorta "Oh yeah? I dare you to eat THIS!" aspect to them.

No. 232.

235 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:13:21pm

I have to get on with my day.

thanks for the respite.

Have a good one all!

236 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:13:31pm

re: #231 ralphieboy

The Scots would deep-fry them...

The brutish Pictae are excluded from the discussion - we're only dealing with semi-civilized folk.
//

237 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:13:41pm

re: #231 ralphieboy

The Scots would deep-fry them...

In a sack made of sheep guts.

238 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:13:50pm

I My guess is...

239 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:13:51pm

It's all a conspiracy.

240 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:14:15pm

re: #237 MandyManners

In a sack made of sheep guts.


and a few mars Bars thrown in for flavor

241 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:14:16pm

re: #235 ggt

I have to get on with my day.

thanks for the respite.

Have a good one all!

Peace, friend

242 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:14:36pm

re: #240 ralphieboy

and a few mars Bars thrown in for flavor

Nummy num num.

243 subsailor68  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:14:44pm

re: #209 Guanxi88

Ha! a complete rip-off. Chaucer wrote the idea ages ago:
[Link: houseoffame.blogspot.com...]

So whan the ship had on the ocean saylede for two houres and was on the rollinge wawes of the see, anon the lockes of the caskes breste forth and the snakes weren loosed. Right so the hoolde of the shippe was fulle of al maner of serpentes that hisse and crawl vpon the erthe, such as amphisbanae and aspides, vipers the which aren sum tyme called berardes, and bosk-addres and cheldires whos bite causeth shakynge and sodein deeth, egges-wermes and water-naddres, slow-wormes and ophites and manye othir thinges that movede serpentli. And syn thei had brethede depe of the Far-Amoun, thei were wood as if thei weren on cracke.

Thus cam the snakes in the coache seccioun of the vessel, and ther was much noyse and screminge and manye EXPENDABLES weren eten and in the naughtye partes ybitten. The ANTISOCIALE ENGLISHMAN dide throwe the dogge of the PRIORESSE to the serpentes for to make hem delaye, and yet he too was eten by a grete wyrm. And the SQUIRE did showe that for all of his bling he was but a cowarde. And the WOMAN WYTH A BABYE AND AN ACCENT dide scape wyth her babye and her accent.

And then didst cometh the KNIGHT, a man of fierce but dusky countenance who saweth the serpents and did respondeth with a most fearsome weapon, whille in a roar of the purest rage didst bellow, "Ah, how I dost hate these mother......"

244 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:15:23pm

re: #238 Blueheron

I My guess is...

Perfect grammar is a waste of good ranting and punning time.

245 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:16:14pm

re: #226 Guanxi88

French and English cuisines do share this sorta "Oh yeah? I dare you to eat THIS!" aspect to them.

All things being equal, and lacking any alternative, I'll go with the English cuisine.

246 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:17:49pm

re: #245 The Sanity Inspector

Vin anglais?

Anyone familiar with the unfortunately too short Brit-com named "Chef"?

247 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:17:57pm

From police harassment of a blogger to alien abductions to TOTUS to strange dishes, this is one of the strangest threads on LGF in a while.

248 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:18:36pm

re: #245 The Sanity Inspector

All things being equal, and lacking any alternative, I'll go with the English cuisine.

Yes, in general, but, as a great Texan (Hank Hill) pointed out, speaking of jewish deli cuisine "You're trying to eat the parts you're supposed to throw away."

249 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:18:56pm

re: #239 Ben Hur

It's all a conspiracy.

All these conspiracies are a decoy for the ones that are actually out to get you.

250 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:19:31pm

re: #221 MandyManners

Well, now, I did not say that the authorities here will not overstep. They do, and frequently. The problem is that very few Americans are aware of their rights. For example, with mommy dearest, I had dcf show up at my home several times, demanding entrance.
Problem for them was that I was VERY aware of my rights and told them to leave. As agents of the state, they need a warrant to get into your home without your permission or exigent circumstances. They ignore that entirely. When I asked them to leave, they informed me they would come back with a police officer to get them into the house. I invited them to do just that.
They did. When the officer knocked on the door, I opened it with a small tape recorder in my hand, and politely asked the officer if they had a warrant, to which he replied they did not.
I then asked the officer to take the social workers off of my property. He did so. I also handed him a copy of a federal case in which a a police officer and a social worker lost their immunity for using such tactics to terrify a citizen into letting the officer and SW into the house against their will, without a warrant. Both were stripped of immunity, and sued privately, in their professional capacity for violating the couple's constitutional rights. Both lost their jobs, homes, and everything else in the civil suit that followed. YOU MUST KNOW YOUR RIGHTS< FOLKS... yes, I am yelling that, it is so very important.

251 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:19:36pm

re: #248 Guanxi88

Yes, in general, but, as a great Texan (Hank Hill) pointed out, speaking of jewish deli cuisine "You're trying to eat the parts you're supposed to throw away."


A lot of cuisine is based on throwing absolutely nothing away

252 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:19:55pm

re: #246 oaktree

Vin anglais?

Anyone familiar with the unfortunately too short Brit-com named "Chef"?

They are running it on Georgia Public Broadcasting - Saturday nights. A favorite of ours.

"Boil in Bag" and "unpasturized stilton" are two of my favorite scenes along with the "plaster in the pastries".

253 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:19:56pm

re: #249 cliffster

So Americans getting obese and sitting in front of the tube is the alien lizard equivalent of fattening up the cattle in a feedlot?

254 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:20:15pm

re: #249 cliffster

All these conspiracies are a decoy for the ones that are actually out to get you.

Second Law of Thermodynamics.

255 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:20:54pm

re: #250 CapeCoddah

You rock.

256 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:21:10pm

And, now, I must roll.

257 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:21:27pm

re: #256 MandyManners

And, now, I must roll.

and I must smoke.

258 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:21:55pm

re: #252 DaddyG

I use the "cow and bug working as one" quote in reference to cheese all the time.

I also made a reference to so-and-so's famous "Dishwater Soup" once as well.

Problem is that the reference goes over everyone's head... :(

259 Kragar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:22:08pm

I have to hand it to the girl at Von's. Even with me catching her twice and correcting her, she still managed to fuck up the sandwich I ordered.

260 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:22:36pm

So, this photo is making the rounds today. It shows President-elect Obama looking into a mirror before coming out onto the Capitol steps to take the oath of office during his inauguration just over a year ago.

Just reading through the comments and how many are fawning over it and I just think to myself, it's an interesting and poignant moment in history to capture, a moment of introspection, and again goes to his image control (an ongoing theme). It certainly provides plenty of fodder for lampooning too.

Also, I don't think the photo is as nearly well done as it could have been - plenty of vignetting that I think is distracting.

It is interesting to figure out why the WH chooses to release these images and when they do so.

261 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:22:41pm

re: #250 CapeCoddah
Link to that case if you have it? I wish I could say the idiocy of some DFCS workers is surprising. It is not.

262 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:24:23pm

re: #258 oaktree

I use the "cow and bug working as one" quote in reference to cheese all the time.

I also made a reference to so-and-so's famous "Dishwater Soup" once as well.

Problem is that the reference goes over everyone's head... :(


I have weird TV habits that vasillate between Public Broadcasting and Adult Swim on Cartoon network. The occasional Food Network show gets tossed in.

263 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:25:25pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I have to hand it to the girl at Von's. Even with me catching her twice and correcting her, she still managed to fuck up the sandwich I ordered.

Is she at least hot?

264 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:25:31pm

Chimpanzees make their first movie! - Natural World: The Chimpcam Project Preview - BBC Two

Youtube Video
265 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:25:56pm

Speele cheque is my freinde

266 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:26:32pm

re: #260 lawhawk

Uh oh.

Why is he standing so far to the left of the mirror to look at himself??

267 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:26:40pm

re: #262 DaddyG

I have weird TV habits that vasillate between Public Broadcasting and Adult Swim on Cartoon network. The occasional Food Network show gets tossed in.

Vaseline between PBS and Cartoon Network? That is wierd...

268 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:26:49pm

re: #262 DaddyG

I'm mainly watching sports and old movies while surfing net stuff. Food Network on occasion as well. Never watched "Iron Chef" or "Iron Chef America" until after I came across a text file satire of Iron Chef which was Battle: Long Pig.

269 Kragar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:26:53pm

re: #263 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is she at least hot?

Nope, not at all.

270 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:27:08pm

re: #264 Ben Hur

Chimpanzees make their first movie! - Natural World: The Chimpcam Project Preview - BBC Two

[Video]


It looks remarkably like the Blair Witch Project.

271 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:27:21pm

re: #266 Ben Hur

Uh oh.

Why is he standing so far to the left of the mirror to look at himself??

Set up shot.

272 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:27:39pm

re: #267 ralphieboy

Vaseline between PBS and Cartoon Network? That is wierd...


I never said I could spell pblttttttt!!!

273 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:27:40pm

re: #266 Ben Hur

Uh oh.

Why is he standing so far to the left of the mirror to look at himself??

maybe he is wondering if he should add a flag pin to his lapel after all...

274 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:28:09pm

re: #272 DaddyG

I never said I could spell pblttt!!!

Wassalia is in Alaska, not on PBS...

275 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:29:01pm

re: #266 Ben Hur

Uh oh.

Why is he standing so far to the left of the mirror to look at himself??

Well, I think that showed that even though he ran as a hopey-changey centrist unifying messiah, he was gonna lead from the left.

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:29:26pm

re: #243 subsailor68

And then didst cometh the KNIGHT, a man of fierce but dusky countenance who saweth the serpents and did respondeth with a most fearsome weapon, whille in a roar of the purest rage didst bellow, "Ah, how I dost hate these mother..."

Then Sir Neville and the men who with him fought did drawe togedir and Sir Neville seyde, ‘Litel it availeth us to fighte wyth thes snakes. By cause thei do not jouste as knightes do, nor do thei make fayre parlay whan thei aren captured, but rather in the nature of beestes thei bite the helle ovte of vs the whole tyme.’ And thus thei made retreat to behinde the walle.

Then ther was a crashinge grete and terribil, and the sound of the sayles droppinge on to the decke. In the winde the ship did founder. Vp staires, Sir Sean did checke wyth the mariners and finde hem all y-slawe by the snakes, and the snakes had occupyed the wheel of the shippe and the mappe of navigacioun. And Sir Sean cam doun and toold Sir Neville and Sir Neville was passinge wroth and seyde, ‘That ys ynogh. I haue hadde it wyth thes cursed by Seynt George snakes on this cursed by Seynt George shippe!’

277 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:30:28pm

In 1735, in an important decision, an American jury decided that Peter Zenger, a newspaper publisher, was not guilty of libel, because it was only libel if it was untrue.

This was a very important occurrence in American law, establishing that you could print anything, as long as it was true.

[Link: colonial-america.suite101.com...]

278 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:30:43pm

re: #261 DaddyG

Sure, gimme a minute to remember the case name...

279 drymocke  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:30:56pm

I was taught to lead with my left BECAUSE I'm a righty...

280 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:30:58pm

re: #206 CapeCoddah

Don't ever confuse the USA and our laws with any other country. We are the only truly free nation. England may seem free like we are, in reality,they are anything but. Due process anywhere else does not mean what it does in the USA.

Absolutely. Some of my English friends assume they have freedom of speech while not having a clue they don't.
Separation of church and state is another concept they have trouble understanding. I would suppose it is because of the Church of England.

281 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:31:47pm

re: #268 oaktree

I'm mainly watching sports and old movies while surfing net stuff. Food Network on occasion as well. Never watched "Iron Chef" or "Iron Chef America" until after I came across a text file satire of Iron Chef which was Battle: Long Pig.

I am so sorry I looked up "Long pig". Euwwwwwww! /

282 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:31:51pm

We in the United States of America should thank our lucky stars for the American Revolutionary War which began almost 235 years ago and led to our independence from the United Kingdom.

283 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:32:28pm

India, China won't sign Copenhagen Accord

Must be George Bush's fault.
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284 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:32:31pm

re: #280 Blueheron

Absolutely. Some of my English friends assume they have freedom of speech while not having a clue they don't.
Separation of church and state is another concept they have trouble understanding. I would suppose it is because of the Church of England.


There was a blowup a while back involving some charges of improper conduct between the Prince of Wales and one of his servant staff. It was absolutely forbidden to be printed in the UK, and even reports of what other forign newspapers were printing were suppressed.

285 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:33:32pm

re: #283 Rightwingconspirator

India, China won't sign Copenhagen Accord

Must be George Bush's fault.
///

Now, in fairness, BHO inherited those governments.

286 Racer X  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:33:33pm

Getting page load errors again. Everything is real frickin slow. My computer does not like something that is popping up on this page.

Mac OS X 10.5.8
Safari 4.0.4

287 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:34:07pm

re: #281 DaddyG

I am so sorry I looked up "Long pig". Euwww! /

Look up "custom of the sea" for similar type things. Dreadful what the whalers and mariners used to have to do.

288 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:34:08pm

re: #282 Gus 802

We in the United States of America should thank our lucky stars for the American Revolutionary War which began almost 235 years ago and led to our independence from the United Kingdom.


American exceptionalism is inherited and paid for with blood. We just need to remember to keep it.

289 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:35:20pm

re: #288 DaddyG

American exceptionalism is inherited and paid for with blood. We just need to remember to keep it.

and Slavery.

(sorry to harsh on your gig)

290 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:35:30pm

Speaking of popups why am I getting a slew of weight loss and diet supplement ads on LGF? Too many posts by Fat Bastard Vegitarian?

291 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:36:01pm

re: #232 MandyManners

That's a far cry from haggis.

I have never treated myself to haggis and I most definitely never will.

Yeckk

292 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:36:09pm

re: #262 DaddyG

I have weird TV habits that vasillate between Public Broadcasting and Adult Swim on Cartoon network. The occasional Food Network show gets tossed in.

Adult Swim + any other channel is just good clean living. even if you should be vacillating instead.

293 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:36:29pm

re: #289 Ben Hur

and Slavery.

(sorry to harsh on your gig)


esception in that nobody is like us I can agree with. Exceptional in that we are exempted from the rules that govern international law and realtions i do no accept.

294 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:36:58pm

When a police officer comes to my door I figure they are there with some kind of horrible news of an accident or something. If it's anything less than that I am too relieved to be nasty.
Besides, if the police were to tell me that they had received a complaint about my blogging from a vicar I'm pretty sure I would burst out laughing.

295 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:37:13pm

re: #292 Aceofwhat?

Adult Swim + any other channel is just good clean living. even if you should be vacillating instead.


I think I'm getting to my wife. She said she liked last night's Venture Brothers episode.

296 Locker  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:37:41pm

re: #262 DaddyG

I have weird TV habits that vasillate between Public Broadcasting and Adult Swim on Cartoon network. The occasional Food Network show gets tossed in.

You have excellent taste sir. Especially if your viewing activities include The Venture Brothers, Bill Moyer's Journal and Good Eats!

297 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:37:46pm

re: #295 DaddyG

I think I'm getting to my wife. She said she liked last night's Venture Brothers episode.

Ease her into ATHF and/or Squidbillies - do not make the same mistake I did.

298 Kragar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:37:47pm

I can't remember the last time I sat down on the couch to actually watch TV.

299 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:38:08pm

re: #288 DaddyG

American exceptionalism is inherited and paid for with blood. We just need to remember to keep it.

And remain vigilant.

300 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:38:50pm

re: #261 DaddyG

Link to that case if you have it? I wish I could say the idiocy of some DFCS workers is surprising. It is not.

Here you go, DaddyG... Calebretta V. Floyd
It is actually a pretty quick and easy read..

301 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:13pm

John Edwards has a sex tape.

Or so I'm told.

(Wow. THAT guy was almost Prez/VP)

302 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:16pm

re: #298 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can't remember the last time I sat down on the couch to actually watch TV.


don't have a functioning TV herer in Germany, for starters, you gotta pay a licensing fee, and secondly it is completel crap.

i would pay for BBC programming, I always watch it when visiting the UK

303 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:20pm

re: #244 DaddyG

Perfect grammar is a waste of good ranting and punning time.

Thank you.
Someday I will make use of the preview feature Charles has so thoughtfully placed here for us to use.

I don't know about anyone else but it is precisely when I hit post that I see a grammar or punctuation error :))

304 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:23pm

OT--

In case there has been an update, a seven year-old boy has now raised more money for Haiti than Saudi Arabia has given.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

305 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:29pm

re: #295 DaddyG

I think I'm getting to my wife. She said she liked last night's Venture Brothers episode.

Now that's proselytizing of the sort that we can all rally around...

306 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:45pm

re: #291 Blueheron

I have never treated myself to haggis and I most definitely never will.

Yeckk

Haggis is something I would never order, but I'd try it if someone offered it. Or I'd toss in for a community plate.

It can't possibly be worse than flipper pie, the only thing I've run across that I was simply unable to eat more than a bite of, thanks to the smell.

307 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:39:57pm

re: #298 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can't remember the last time I sat down on the couch to actually watch TV.

Do you stand or lie down?

308 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:40:16pm

re: #297 Guanxi88

Ease her into ATHF and/or Squidbillies - do not make the same mistake I did.


Squidbillies is brain damage on a monitor. Much like Superjail is a bad acid trip on a monitor.

I do like to laugh at the inside references to North Georgia, I-575, the Confederate flag flap and other local institutions that are woven into Squidbillies.

309 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:40:26pm

re: #305 Aceofwhat?

Now that's proselytizing of the sort that we can all rally around...

Metalocalypse

310 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:40:28pm

re: #297 Guanxi88

Ease her into ATHF and/or Squidbillies - do not make the same mistake I did.

Harry Birdman and Sealab are easier transitions, imho.

311 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:40:29pm

We await word from Pat Condell.

312 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:40:49pm

re: #245 The Sanity Inspector

All things being equal, and lacking any alternative, I'll go with the English cuisine.

So YOU are a blood sausage fan? :X

313 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:41:20pm

re: #310 Aceofwhat?

Harry Birdman and Sealab are easier transitions, imho.

I'd forgotten about Sealab.

Harvey Birdman - love the opening montage - he's walking through the jail, greeting all his former clients.

314 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:41:42pm

re: #300 CapeCoddah
THank you. The link isn't working for me but I can look it up by the name.

315 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:41:42pm

re: #301 Ben Hur

John Edwards has a sex tape.

Or so I'm told.

(Wow. THAT guy was almost Prez/VP)

Talk about dodging a bullet

316 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:41:50pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
' Hold the pickles hold the lettuce
Your displeasure don't upset us '.....

317 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:41:52pm

re: #301 Ben Hur

John Edwards has a sex tape.

Or so I'm told.

(Wow. THAT guy was almost Prez/VP)

How stupid can one man be?

318 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:41:56pm

re: #308 DaddyG

Squidbillies is brain damage on a monitor. Much like Superjail is a bad acid trip on a monitor.

I do like to laugh at the inside references to North Georgia, I-575, the Confederate flag flap and other local institutions that are woven into Squidbillies.

I just like the mind-bending weirdness of the thing.

319 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:42:16pm

re: #287 Guanxi88

Rumors that the Royal Navy practices cannibalism are entirely false!

:)

320 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:42:46pm

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

How stupid can one man be?

Not as stupid as those who voted/planned on voting for him.

321 Locker  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:43:19pm

re: #308 DaddyG

Squidbillies is brain damage on a monitor. Much like Superjail is a bad acid trip on a monitor.

I do like to laugh at the inside references to North Georgia, I-575, the Confederate flag flap and other local institutions that are woven into Squidbillies.

Laugh for some reason this reminds me of a video I just shared with some mates:

Top Gear crew nearly get lynched in Alabama

322 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:43:47pm

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

How stupid can one man be?

Stupider than the stupidest man you can possibly imagine, and then some. (With apologies to Douglas Adams)

Whenever I think someone's hit the absolute, rock bottom of intelligence, someone else comes along and proves me wrong.

323 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:43:56pm

re: #320 Ben Hur

Not as stupid as those who voted/planned on voting for him.

group stupid is the worst of all...

324 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:44:35pm

re: #323 brookly red

group stupid is the worst of all...

Yes. We are all individuals.

325 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:45:22pm

re: #261 DaddyG

They are so out of control, it is not funny. One of the biggest problems is that the police get their info from DCF on what they are allowed to do. I have educated many a police officer as to the fact. It has been admitted to me that they do not have the time to be familiar with every law.. understandable.. so they rely on DCF to tell them what the rules are. DCF gets away with this crap because the proceedings are closed, to "Protect the child". This leads to enormous abuses in the system. There are several officers here who now know thee truth. For instance, the police here thought they could take a child to the station, and let DCF question them without parental permission. Not so. That is a violation of both state and federal law. The schools will frequently do the same. This is all because of misinformation given to schools and police by DCF. It happens all over the country every day.

326 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:45:24pm

John Edwards should wear a helmet.

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:45:29pm

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

How stupid can one man be?

I am dreadfully afraid that Mr. Edwards isn't done showing us.

328 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:45:34pm

re: #304 EmmmieG

Indeed. That's a most impressive effort and should shame those countries that have the capability to give, but have not. Roundup here.

329 Racer X  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:04pm

re: #301 Ben Hur

John Edwards has a sex tape.

Or so I'm told.

(Wow. THAT guy was almost Prez/VP)

This must be why he is hiding out in Haiti chasing ambulances.

330 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:12pm

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

John Edwards should wear a helmet.

shoulda worn something...

331 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:21pm

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar
Damn the National Enquirer anyway.... if they had just kept a lid on it a while longer, we'd have had some fun....

332 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:24pm

re: #301 Ben Hur

John Edwards has a sex tape.

Or so I'm told.

(Wow. THAT guy was almost Prez/VP)

I spotted him from a mile away. How he got as far as he did during the campaign is mind boggling.

"If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..."

333 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:27pm

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

John Edwards should wear a helmet.

I know one thing John Edwards SHOULD have worn.

334 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:44pm

re: #330 brookly red

shoulda worn something...

GMTA but you beat me damn you

335 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:46:53pm

re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist

I am dreadfully afraid that Mr. Edwards isn't done showing us.

Ya know, though, were it only his own life he'd be wrecking, I could watch the whole spectacle with a giggle, a morbid sense of curiosity, and a bowl of popcorn. But this guy's wrecked (and is wrecking) a whole buncha other people's lives to boot.

336 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:47:27pm

re: #334 cliffster

GMTA but you beat me damn you

I am already in the gutter so I had a head start...

337 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:47:57pm

re: #329 Racer X

This must be why he is hiding out in Haiti chasing ambulances.

Ya don't think he's looking for future clients? Gonna try to revive his legal profession down there, where there's sure to be a ton of malpractice cases?

338 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:48:17pm

re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist

And yet the media, which had all manner of opportunity to expose his character and judgment failings well before he withdrew from the race, declined to cover the growing scandal even as the National Enquirer did so in force (it's sad when a political story like a major party candidate (and former VP running mate) imploding gets more coverage from the Enquirer than in the NY Times).

339 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:48:20pm

re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist
I think I read that he's taken yet another dip in the pool... so to speak.

340 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:48:21pm

re: #328 lawhawk

Indeed. That's a most impressive effort and should shame those countries that have the capability to give, but have not. Roundup here.

Excellent, and perhaps they could look at the buildings that did not collapse, and see what could be done differently this time. Without foreign aid, though, better buildings will not be built.

341 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:48:38pm

Photos of IDF in Haiti

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

342 BunnyThief  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:48:49pm

Sounds like the good vicar is learning a lesson from Muslims... don't bother with polite discourse, just threaten your critics into silence.

Of course, he has a bit more to learn. Perhaps if the Church of England sanctioned a few beheadings of its more vocal critics, they wouldn't have to bother with the threats at all.

(Do I really need the /sarc tag here?

343 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:49:02pm

re: #337 Guanxi88

Ya don't think he's looking for future clients? Gonna try to revive his legal profession down there, where there's sure to be a ton of malpractice cases?

Well, he'll be losing his law license here, so maybe he's working on a transition plan

344 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:49:09pm

re: #314 DaddyG

THank you. The link isn't working for me but I can look it up by the name.

OK, but I spelled it wrong...
Calabretta V. Floyd
Try this link.

345 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:49:32pm

re: #341 Ben Hur

Photos of IDF in Haiti

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

No wonder Chavez looks so nervous. Zionist shock troops, pre-positioned by Yankee imperialists in their newly-colonized Caribbean base.

346 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:50:00pm

re: #338 lawhawk

And yet the media, which had all manner of opportunity to expose his character and judgment failings well before he withdrew from the race, declined to cover the growing scandal even as the National Enquirer did so in force (it's sad when a political story like a major party candidate (and former VP running mate) imploding gets more coverage from the Enquirer than in the NY Times).

Because he's a Republican.

347 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:50:35pm

re: #343 cliffster

Well, he'll be losing his law license here, so maybe he's working on a transition plan

Man's always got to have a Plan B.

Mine is Paraguay, with Argentina a distant second, though; I don't anticipate I could ever screw things up so badly that I'd have to flee to Haiti.

348 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:50:49pm

re: #345 Guanxi88

No wonder Chavez looks so nervous. Zionist shock troops, pre-positioned by Yankee imperialists in their newly-colonized Caribbean base.

The invasion of pediatricians has overwhelmed the Bolivarians!

//

349 garhighway  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:51:12pm

re: #343 cliffster

Well, he'll be losing his law license here, so maybe he's working on a transition plan

Why will he be losing his law license?

350 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:51:26pm

re: #285 Guanxi88

Good one!

351 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:51:26pm

re: #340 EmmmieG

The big lesson to take away is that cinder block construction without rebar is fatal in a strong quake. Concrete with rebar will survive strong quakes, particularly if the structures are engineered for seismic loads. Most in Haiti aren't; hence the overwhelming damage.

To rebuild to modern seismic codes could be expensive, but it's absolutely critical to Haiti's long term well-being since stronger buildings will also provide better protection from hurricanes and tropical storms that have taken thousands of lives over the years in Haiti.

352 brookly red  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:51:28pm

re: #338 lawhawk

And yet the media, which had all manner of opportunity to expose his character and judgment failings well before he withdrew from the race, declined to cover the growing scandal even as the National Enquirer did so in force (it's sad when a political story like a major party candidate (and former VP running mate) imploding gets more coverage from the Enquirer than in the NY Times).

as I mentioned on another thread the Enquirer has submitted the work for a Pulitzer...

353 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:52:16pm

re: #286 Racer X

Getting page load errors again. Everything is real frickin slow. My computer does not like something that is popping up on this page.

Mac OS X 10.5.8
Safari 4.0.4

I can't easily upding or use spell check today. The hamsters must be on strike!

354 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:52:37pm

re: #342 BunnyThief

As a cradle whiskeypalian, I'd be the first to say that regrettably, there are/have been some outstanding dirtbags amongst the clergy. Bishop Pike comes to mind....

355 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:53:53pm

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

The Cro-Magnon type who discovered that you could eat snails must have been pretty damn hungry.

Hey snails is good stuff pal!
:))

356 Guanxi88  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:54:28pm

re: #355 Blueheron

Hey snails is good stuff pal!
:))

Well, you're a water-fowl, so you'd have no problem with molluscs in any shape or form.

357 subsailor68  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:55:15pm

re: #340 EmmmieG

Excellent, and perhaps they could look at the buildings that did not collapse, and see what could be done differently this time. Without foreign aid, though, better buildings will not be built.

Hi EmmmieG! Unfortunately, without a significant change in the way the government of Haiti operates, foreign aid would be throwing good money after bad. (Speaking of foreign aid here - not humanitarian relief.)

I'd prefer a government in Haiti that turned to the private sector and asked, "Okay, what guarantees do we have to make, what changes in how we do things, and what kind of business climate do we have to implement to ensure that you are willing to invest in our country?"

The current situation with governance in Haiti doesn't find it necessary to rebuild to any but the skimpiest of standards, as they want the majority of the foreign aid money to go into their pockets. Private industry, on the other hand, has an economic incentive to build structures that won't be blown away or ground into dust.

358 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:55:48pm

re: #351 lawhawk

The big lesson to take away is that cinder block construction without rebar is fatal in a strong quake. Concrete with rebar will survive strong quakes, particularly if the structures are engineered for seismic loads. Most in Haiti aren't; hence the overwhelming damage.

To rebuild to modern seismic codes could be expensive, but it's absolutely critical to Haiti's long term well-being since stronger buildings will also provide better protection from hurricanes and tropical storms that have taken thousands of lives over the years in Haiti.

Yes.

Any concrete structures would have to be properly designed by a structural engineer. As we saw with Loma Prieta and the Cypress Viaduct collapse even steel reinforced concrete structures will fail if not designed properly.

359 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:56:01pm

re: #353 Blueheron

I can't easily upding or use spell check today. The hamsters must be on strike!

LGF has been updated to give out resources based on quality of comment. Sorry to have to tell you..
//

360 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:56:31pm

re: #358 Gus 802

Yes.

Any concrete structures would have to be properly designed by a structural engineer. As we saw with Loma Prieta and the Cypress Viaduct collapse even steel reinforced concrete structures will fail if not designed properly.

But the don't melt.

361 Racer X  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:56:38pm

Too slow - gotta go.

Hopefully will be better tonight.

362 Gus  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:57:16pm

re: #360 Ben Hur

But the don't melt.

Rosie O'Donnell, P.E.

//

363 Silvergirl  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 12:59:31pm

I saw this article on the front page about Blue Dog Dem Berry (not to be confused with that Marion Barry, crack fan and arrested but not convicted girlfriend stalker):

As expected, Rep. Marion Berry (D-Ark.) announced Monday morning that he will leave Congress at the end of his term. That makes six House Democrats from competitive districts announcing retirment plans in the past two months.

And I looked around and found this in connection with it:

Rep. Marion Berry's parting shot, published in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette [no link, subscription only] offers a warning to moderate Democrats and border state moderates — warning of a midterm bloodbath comparable to the 54-seat D-to-R swing in 1994.

But the jaw-dropper is Berry's claim that President Obama personally dismissed any comparison between Democrats now and under Bill Clinton 16 years ago — by saying his personal popularity would bail everybody out.

The retiring Berry, who doesn't say when the remarks were made, now scoffs at Obama's 50-or-below approval rating:

Writes ADG reporter Jane Fullerton:

Berry recounted meetings with White House officials, reminiscent of some during the Clinton days, where he and others urged them not to force Blue Dogs “off into that swamp” of supporting bills that would be unpopular with voters back home.

“I’ve been doing that with this White House, and they just don’t seem to give it any credibility at all,” Berry said. “They just kept telling us how good it was going to be. The president himself, when that was brought up in one group, said, ‘Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.’ We’re going to see how much difference that makes now.” [snip]

“I began to preach last January that we had already seen this movie and we didn’t want to see it again because we know how it comes out,” said Arkansas’ 1st District congressman, who worked in the Clinton administration before being elected to the House in 1996... "I just began to have flashbacks to 1993 and ’94. No one that was here in ’94, or at the day after the election felt like. It certainly wasn’t a good feeling.”

Although this may be true, I wonder if it is.

364 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:00:05pm

re: #325 CapeCoddah A mom just spent the weekend in jail because her son reported to a teacher that she forced him to kill his pet hampster with a hammer due to a bad report card. It turns out that his report may be suspect and he has had behavioral isssues in the past.

I also have a friend who in a moment of anger slapped his 16 y/o son accross the face (open handed) and ended up reported to the state through the school, put on probation and unable to discipline the son (who was a terror - badmouthed his mother in public and routinely punched holes in the walls around the home). The kid ended up ruling the roost until they could get him to move out at the age of 19 and his brothers and sisters were intimidated by him. Meanwhile the Dad spent most of his time with his tail between his legs afraid to discipline any of the children.

Contrast this with my wife who had molestation, real bruises and a broken jaw from her stepdad and was told she'd have to prove it to her school counselor by stripping naked in front of him (1980's).

I do not have a high opinion of school counsellors and other pseudo legal authorities.

365 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:00:14pm

re: #360 Ben Hur

But the don't melt.

No Rosie (or Dylan or Charlie F-in Sheen)... they dont.

They just get really soft and weak and cease to function as load bearing structures, eventually collapsing under their own weight.

366 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:02:49pm

re: #363 Silvergirl
It's twoo. Berry's a straight shooter and has been involved in Dem strategery even before he ran for office.
Why have difficulty believing Obama said those words when he claimed ' We are the Ones We Have Been Waiting For'?

367 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:02:59pm

re: #357 subsailor68

Ah, I should have been more clear. I was referring to NGO's building buildings. A school here from this church, and a hospital or an orphanage from that charity.

No cash aid. Buildings.

368 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:04:26pm

re: #293 ralphieboy

esception in that nobody is like us I can agree with. Exceptional in that we are exempted from the rules that govern international law and realtions i do no accept.

We may not be exempt but we must never forget we are a sovereign nation bowing to no one and to their law.

369 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:05:32pm

re: #351 lawhawk

Years ago, I saw a display on the beginnings of the welfare missionary system for the LDS church. They had a copy of the "model home" designed for poor central Americans. One of the chief factors was the need to make the one-room house out of materials that wouldn't kill you if they landed on you. (Although mudslides were still a danger; even in the US a mudslide will kill you.)

This won't work for Haiti, because they don't have the land to make one-story houses in Port au Prince. I've just been reminded of the display this last two weeks.

370 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:05:43pm

re: #364 DaddyG

I got involved with starting a group called Justice for Families. You would not (or maybe you would) believe the stories we saw. Granted, a lot of folks came to us who needed to have the kids removed, and we did not deal with them. BUT, the number of folks literally railroaded by DCF is mind boggling. Justice for Families does not exist anymore, in case anyone looks for it, but someone did hijack the name when we were done with it.
This is a nasty issue, and still needs attention, but with the closed system it is impossible to shine light into the madness.

371 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:05:57pm

re: #363 Silvergirl

I saw this article on the front page about Blue Dog Dem Berry (not to be confused with that Marion Barry, crack fan and arrested but not convicted girlfriend stalker):

Although this may be true, I wonder if it is.

There's a long gulf of time between now and November. Given the warning shot sounded by Brown across their bow, the Democrats have the opportunity to put that time to good use and turn their fortunes around, should they choose to do so.

Still, midterms favor the party out of power. And the Dems seem splintered, so it's unclear whether they can mount a coordinated salvage operation. Not to mention the staggering level of national debt and continued sluggishness in the economy.

372 AK-47%  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:06:23pm

re: #368 Blueheron

We may not be exempt but we must never forget we are a sovereign nation bowing to no one and to their law.

then we gotta accept the fact that other nations will act the same. if we want certain standards, we gotta accept them and abide by them

373 Silvergirl  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:06:24pm

re: #301 Ben Hur

John Edwards has a sex tape.

Or so I'm told.

(Wow. THAT guy was almost Prez/VP)

Rielle probably put the cam on a tripod and shot the film herself.

374 Ben Hur  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:08:27pm

re: #373 Silvergirl

Rielle probably put the cam on a tripod and shot the film herself.

From what I read, he's the tripod.

375 Silvergirl  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:08:45pm

re: #366 tradewind

It's twoo. Berry's a straight shooter and has been involved in Dem strategery even before he ran for office.
Why have difficulty believing Obama said those words when he claimed ' We are the Ones We Have Been Waiting For'?

Just wanting to give the benefit of the doubt.

376 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:09:56pm

re: #371 SixDegrees

There's a long gulf of time between now and November. Given the warning shot sounded by Brown across their bow, the Democrats have the opportunity to put that time to good use and turn their fortunes around, should they choose to do so.

Still, midterms favor the party out of power. And the Dems seem splintered, so it's unclear whether they can mount a coordinated salvage operation. Not to mention the staggering level of national debt and continued sluggishness in the economy.

You're right about the tip-off. But there's something about mass-running-around-covering-of-asses that prevents coordinated operations.

377 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:11:21pm

re: #375 Silvergirl
You and a majority of the electorate in '08.
' Fool us once....'

378 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:12:36pm

re: #376 cliffster

They've already told us.... they're ' not hitting the re-set button'.
Good luck with that.

379 cliffster  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:13:14pm

re: #378 tradewind

They've already told us... they're ' not hitting the re-set button'.
Good luck with that.

Well, then, voters won't be hitting the "D" button..

380 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:16:06pm

re: #351 lawhawk

I noticed a lot of concrete slab construction. Not sure if it is cast in place or tilt-up, but very little re-bar. Re-bar is cheap. Build to last and you only build it once. Even cheap construction is expensive when done twice, to say nothing of the wounded, the dead, etc.

381 DaddyG  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:16:10pm

re: #378 tradewind

They've already told us... they're ' not hitting the re-set button'.
Good luck with that.

I suspect they will double down on the progressive big government solutions and that will backfire. The Tea Party movement didn't gain traction because people want to see gun totin' militia on the statehouse steps. It caught wind in its sails because people fear encroaching government and more taxes- especially when they are already tightening belts.

No matter what happens 2010 and 2012 will be fascinating elections./

382 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:18:12pm

re: #369 EmmmieG

I've seen similar concepts for homes that would use shipping containers that were structurally sufficient to withstand strong quakes and could be linked together to provide durable housing.

There's actually potential to use this as modular housing and the US has a surplus of empty shipping containers so the raw materials are available.

383 Silvergirl  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:18:15pm

re: #377 tradewind

You and a majority of the electorate in '08.
' Fool us once...'

Because I'm not accepting a story about someone as absolute truth immediately doesn't mean I would vote for him. Didn't help elect him in '08, wouldn't do it in any future year.

384 Bagua  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:18:29pm

re: #341 Ben Hur

Photos of IDF in Haiti

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Remarkable, thank you. It is just amazing how the Israeli's are able to fly hallway across the world and provide advance medical care for a distant nation in need.

Bless Israel.

385 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:19:32pm

re: #306 SixDegrees

Haggis is something I would never order, but I'd try it if someone offered it. Or I'd toss in for a community plate.

It can't possibly be worse than flipper pie, the only thing I've run across that I was simply unable to eat more than a bite of, thanks to the smell.

A friend described to me the making of Scottish haggis in great detail. Believe me you won't miss anything by not eating it.

But then again I love Rocky Mountain Oysters :)

386 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:21:14pm

re: #14 MandyManners
Or a public official. Wow.... wonder if anyone would ever try something like that on say, Fox News?
....oh wait....

387 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:21:35pm

re: #307 Spare O'Lake

Do you stand or lie down?


Bet he has a Lazy Boy :)

388 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:21:38pm

re: #385 Blueheron

A friend described to me the making of Scottish haggis in great detail. Believe me you won't miss anything by not eating it.

But then again I love Rocky Mountain Oysters :)

Ewwww. I will stick with the Wellfleet oysters, thanks!

389 tradewind  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:21:59pm

re: #383 Silvergirl

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
And.... whew.

390 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:30:45pm

re: #359 cliffster

LGF has been updated to give out resources based on quality of comment. Sorry to have to tell you..
//

:-P~~~~~~~~~~

391 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:39:41pm

re: #385 Blueheron

A friend described to me the making of Scottish haggis in great detail. Believe me you won't miss anything by not eating it.

But then again I love Rocky Mountain Oysters :)

Yeah, it's all the nasty bits. Not something I'm particularly interested in.

But in fairness, the habit of tossing that stuff away and only eating the muscle - and only certain muscles, at that - is pretty recent. Even as a kid, there were butcher stores all over the place where I grew up, and they all had hearts, livers, kidneys, tongues, brains and every other part of all the animals they dealt with not just available, but on display. In the past, raising livestock was a large investment of resources, and nothing went to waste. the ability for the average person to be able to purchase beef sirloin, or even tenderloin, on a regular basis is very new.

There's something of a resurgence of interest in those less common bits and pieces among top chefs worldwide. I suppose if this continues one of their greatest features - their cheap price - will vanish as they become trendy.

I'm not proselytizing here - I wouldn't go out of my way for any of it, except - maybe - liver, which is OK except for being a filter organ that gets loaded up with all the weirdness we feed and inject food animals with these days. But if offered, I'd try it, maybe even learn to like it.

392 Silvergirl  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:42:14pm

re: #389 tradewind

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
And... whew.

Appreciate that. No problem.
I'm not too scary anyway.

393 Blueheron  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 1:42:33pm

re: #391 SixDegrees

Yeah, it's all the nasty bits. Not something I'm particularly interested in.

But in fairness, the habit of tossing that stuff away and only eating the muscle - and only certain muscles, at that - is pretty recent. Even as a kid, there were butcher stores all over the place where I grew up, and they all had hearts, livers, kidneys, tongues, brains and every other part of all the animals they dealt with not just available, but on display. In the past, raising livestock was a large investment of resources, and nothing went to waste. the ability for the average person to be able to purchase beef sirloin, or even tenderloin, on a regular basis is very new.

There's something of a resurgence of interest in those less common bits and pieces among top chefs worldwide. I suppose if this continues one of their greatest features - their cheap price - will vanish as they become trendy.

I'm not proselytizing here - I wouldn't go out of my way for any of it, except - maybe - liver, which is OK except for being a filter organ that gets loaded up with all the weirdness we feed and inject food animals with these days. But if offered, I'd try it, maybe even learn to like it.

There is nothing better than fried liver covered with onions. You are making my mouth water.

394 SixDegrees  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 2:03:11pm

re: #393 Blueheron

There is nothing better than fried liver covered with onions. You are making my mouth water.

Liver's not bad. I used to eat it a lot, back when I was newly independent - and dirt poor. It was cheap, and I like the taste. I usually wound up sauteeing it with other odds and ends - diced peppers, potatoes, mushrooms and whatever else was on sale.

395 Aceofwhat?  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 2:10:52pm

re: #391 SixDegrees

Yeah, it's all the nasty bits. Not something I'm particularly interested in.
...
But if offered, I'd try it, maybe even learn to like it.

What's the strangest thing you've tried? I have yet to say no to anything offered to me, unless it was for hygenic reasons.

my strangest taste = baby octopus at sushi restaurant. They sorta lash the entire little octopus to a bed of rice and you put the whole thing in your mouth. I don't know what's in the head but the taste was entirely unclassifiable. Tasted like what i always imagined Klingon food to taste like.

396 5x5 Skeptic  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 2:50:40pm

re: #2 thedopefishlives

Holy flippin' cow. Who knew that you could get a visit from the police for reporting the truth.

Cheney lives on.

397 BunnyThief  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 2:53:43pm

re: #396 5x5 Skeptic

Cheney lives on.

Care to offer some details and flesh that out, 5X5?

398 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 25, 2010 2:58:48pm
399 Nemesis6  Tue, Jan 26, 2010 2:48:32am

Why you shouldn't talk to the police, anyone?

400 lrsshadow  Tue, Jan 26, 2010 11:06:01am

Huh, kind of interesting, I remember a not so well loved radio talk show host being banned in Britain. He said that being banned was a step toward stifling free speech in Britain.

Not many people around here would defend him in his struggle, because he was not well liked and now we have this case of further suppression of free speech on someone else, so why should we care now, just cause this is a "good guy"?

Free speech must be preserved and fought for even if you don't like the guy who is speaking, otherwise it is just hypo-crazy.


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