TeaBagCon: Theocrat Judge Roy Moore Bashes Gays, Calls Obama ‘Immoral’

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Here’s a report by Jeff Woods at the Nashville Scene on yet another lunatic speaker at the first National Tea Party Convention, homophobic theocrat Judge Roy Moore: At Tea Party, Gay-Bashing ‘Ten Commandments Judge’ Calls Obama Immoral.

Leave it to the “Ten Commandments judge” to inject gay bashing into the tea party convention. In his big speech this afternoon, Roy Moore castigated President Obama for the far-right’s usual litany of offenses and added this one for good measure: Obama had the audacity to issue a proclamation for “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.” To Moore, that means the president “has elevated immorality to a new level.”

“Go forth armed in the holy cause of liberty,” he told the cheering tea partiers.

Here’s the money quote from the judge who became a conservative hero for his refusal, as the elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, to remove a monument of the Ten Commandments from the state courthouse:

“[Obama] has ignored our history and our heritage, arrogantly declaring to the world that we are no longer a Christian nation. He has elevated immorality to a new level, setting aside the entire month of June to celebrate gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender pride. He now threatens to change our law to allow homosexuality in our military … He’s apologized to the Arab world for our past, subjugated our national sovereignty by bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia. He has pursued a socialist agenda by taking control of private companies and pushing a national health care plan with a public option. Backed by a willing Congress, he’s bought off our senators and representatives with our own money in an effort to mandate his agenda.”

Judge Moore, by the way, has actually advocated the death penalty for homosexuality.

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267 comments
1 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:00:49am

Don't Ask, Don't Tell was never a law. It was a policy, if I remember correctly.

2 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:03:53am

the thinning of the herd continues ...

3 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:04:45am

Oops. Clarification. It was a policy *based* on a law.

4 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:04:54am

“Go forth armed in the holy cause of liberty,”

That doesn't at all sound like you're trying to incite violence or asking people to start/keep bringing guns with them to political events.

5 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:05:13am

“Go forth armed in the holy cause of liberty,” he told the cheering tea partiers.

It is only wise to keep close tabs on these folks, regardless of those who say, "it's no big deal."

6 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:05:31am

re: #3 austin_blue

Oops. Clarification. It was a policy *based* on a law.

What was the "law" it was based on? I know you could get discharged for "telling" but its not like you could be sent to jail for it....

7 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:05:53am

re: #5 Stanley Sea

“Go forth armed in the holy cause of liberty,” he told the cheering tea partiers.

It is only wise to keep close tabs on these folks, regardless of those who say, "it's no big deal."

GMTA.

8 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:06:55am

re: #1 austin_blue

Don't Ask, Don't Tell was never a law. It was a policy, if I remember correctly.

I thought that too, but a lizard put me onto a 1993 law that pulled it out of the executive. Looks like something more to be filibustered.

9 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:08:11am

"Judge Moore, by the way, has actually advocated the death penalty for homosexuality."

- Well, he didn't say it was the exclusive penalty applicable to the offense, but he didn't say it was off the table altogether, either.

See, that's what a judge does, he attempts to balance things out like that, tempering justice with mercy and all that.

- and this guy sat on the bench?

10 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:08:46am

re: #6 jamesfirecat

What was the "law" it was based on? I know you could get discharged for "telling" but its not like you could be sent to jail for it...

Here:

[Link: assembler.law.cornell.edu...]

11 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:09:23am

The wingnut monkeys are retweeting Pamela Geller's latest incoherent rant at Big Government about me like crazy this morning. I see it dozens of times in Tweetdeck.

Maybe it's time to answer.

12 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:09:53am

When I was in high school, I knew a kid who grew up in Bosnia. Although he did everything with his left hand, he wrote with his right. He explained that the teachers in Bosnia said being left-handed was "immoral" and the "Devil's hand". Anyone who was left-handed had their hand tied behind their back so they were forced to learn how to write right-handed. We all laughed at the silliness of that, as if he chose to be left-handed then could simply "choose" to be right-handed.

Maybe someday everybody will laugh at the fact that people think straight/gay is a choice, like those foolish teachers thought about handedness. It's not a decision made, but something one is born with.

13 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:10:06am

re: #10 austin_blue

Here:

[Link: assembler.law.cornell.edu...]

Ahh, it's evidently a different kind of "law" than I normally think of, because I normally think of "laws" as something that are designed to tell us what we can't/shouldn't do like the "you broke the law" kind of way.

Clearly I have much to learn.

14 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:11:21am

re: #8 Decatur Deb

I thought that too, but a lizard put me onto a 1993 law that pulled it out of the executive. Looks like something more to be filibustered.

As I understand it, in theory Obama could give an executive order to repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell, but if he does that by the same token the next president can put it back in place just as easily.

That's why he's trying to go for a long term lasting victory rather something short term which can be swept away by the changing tides of executive power...

15 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:11:46am

From Moore's Wiki:

In February 2002, Chief Justice Moore issued an opinion which expressed his belief that the State should rightfully use its powers to punish homosexual behavior. The case, D.H. vs. H.H., was a custody dispute where a lesbian was petitioning for custody of her children, alleging abuse by her ex-husband. A circuit court in Alabama had ruled in favor of the father, but the Alabama Court of Civil Appeals overturned that verdict 4-1, claiming that substantial evidence existed of abusive behavior by the father.[10]

The state Supreme Court overruled the appeals court on technical reasons; however, Chief Justice Moore issued a concurring opinion concluding that a parent's homosexuality should be a deciding factor in refusing custody:

To disfavor practicing homosexuals in custody matters is not invidious discrimination, nor is it legislating personal morality. On the contrary, disfavoring practicing homosexuals in custody matters promotes the general welfare of the people of our State in accordance with our law, which is the duty of its public servants... The State carries the power of the sword, that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as confinement and even execution. It must use that power to prevent the subversion of children toward this lifestyle, to not encourage a criminal lifestyle... Homosexual behavior is a ground for divorce, an act of sexual misconduct punishable as a crime in Alabama, a crime against nature, an inherent evil, and an act so heinous that it defies one’s ability to describe it. That is enough under the law to allow a court to consider such activity harmful to a child. To declare that homosexuality is harmful is not to make new law but to reaffirm the old; to say that it is not harmful is to experiment with people's lives, particularly the lives of children.[11]

16 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:12:05am

Where's the national media to report on this stuff? MSNBC had a headline, but the story has done gone missing.

The WaPo has a story, but it's framed in generalities and makes no mention of Moore's speech.

There's this story, which is a round up of the crazy, but it's not a major media outlet. You'd think the journalists who make their living on scoops would have tried to get at the convention to report on the crazy.

17 idioma  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:13:20am
Judge Moore, by the way, has actually advocated the death penalty for homosexuality.

Culture war hangover.

4 month college course on human sexuality: Homosexuality is a normal variation.

vs.

Thousands of years of fire and brimstone, sinners and saviors: what you do with your genitals can get you sent to a bad place where you will be tortured forever.

Not much of a choice for some.

18 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:13:23am

Y'all outside agitators have got to stop pounding on my legislators and judges. First it was Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions (R) AL, then Senator Richard Shelby (R) AL, and now the esteemed former Chief Justice of our Supreme Court, Roy Moore. (Soon to be GOP candidate for Governor of our fair state.) I thought this was a right-thinking site. Any of you snow-bound fools want to swap for a nice house where it never snows? I'm looking for someplace near a deli.

19 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:13:48am

re: #16 lawhawk

Where's the national media to report on this stuff? MSNBC had a headline, but the story has done gone missing.

The WaPo has a story, but it's framed in generalities and makes no mention of Moore's speech.

There's this story, which is a round up of the crazy, but it's not a major media outlet. You'd think the journalists who make their living on scoops would have tried to get at the convention to report on the crazy.

Didn't we already have a post here about how the Tea Party convention was going to be closed off to journalists?

20 darthstar  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:13:48am

Are all of these speakers trying to one-up each other? By the time Sarah takes the stage tonight, there won't be anything left to rage about...but I'm sure she'll think of something. Her speech is probably just going to be a summary of the dog-whistles of the last two days...with a wink.

21 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:14:33am

re: #16 lawhawk

Where's the national media to report on this stuff? MSNBC had a headline, but the story has done gone missing.

The WaPo has a story, but it's framed in generalities and makes no mention of Moore's speech.

There's this story, which is a round up of the crazy, but it's not a major media outlet. You'd think the journalists who make their living on scoops would have tried to get at the convention to report on the crazy.

I think there is a case of overcorrection going on in the MSM, especially concerning the Tea Parties. They were rightly accused of a liberal bias, and are now trying to be "fair" to the tea parties, even though the kooks don't deserve it.

22 webevintage  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:14:38am

I've been trying to listen to the Tea Party and one of the comments during a Q&A someone asked how to get young folks involved.
Now one of the answers was to "Take back the schools" (not sure who took them since they are PUBLIC schools) but it amazes me that none of these folks seem to get that if they want their "movement" to work they need to get rid of the social conservative baggage.

Teens and young adults are just like all of us and there are folks who are fiscal conservatives at every age, BUT more and more younger Americans just do not care about issues that have a religious bent. So they want these "limited government" folks to be true to that. No getting involved in who can be married, who can serve in the military, what is taught in science class and abortion. All those things involve micro-managing our lives and young voters really seem to reject those views.

23 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:15:21am

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Y'all outside agitators have got to stop pounding on my legislators and judges. First it was Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions (R) AL, then Senator Richard Shelby (R) AL, and now the esteemed former Chief Justice of our Supreme Court, Roy Moore. (Soon to be GOP candidate for Governor of our fair state.) I thought this was a right-thinking site. Any of you snow-bound fools want to swap for a nice house where it never snows? I'm looking for someplace near a deli.

I believe you meant to say "I thought this here was a right-thinking site"

24 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:15:54am

re: #23 jamesfirecat

I believe you meant to say "I thought this here was a right-thinking site"

She's a FAKE! I knew it, I knew it!

25 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:16:18am

re: #22 webevintage

Teens and young adults are just like all of us and there are folks who are fiscal conservatives at every age, BUT more and more younger Americans just do not care about issues that have a religious bent. So they want these "limited government" folks to be true to that. No getting involved in who can be married, who can serve in the military, what is taught in science class and abortion. All those things involve micro-managing our lives and young voters really seem to reject those views.

There's a reason there is so many young libertarians...

26 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:16:24am

re: #20 darthstar

Are all of these speakers trying to one-up each other? By the time Sarah takes the stage tonight, there won't be anything left to rage about...but I'm sure she'll think of something. Her speech is probably just going to be a summary of the dog-whistles of the last two days...with a wink.

Well she could take some advice from her hubby and promote secession from the US. That's the one flavor of crazy that I don't think we've seen yet at this Baskin Robins of nutjobs....

27 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:16:28am

re: #14 jamesfirecat

As I understand it, in theory Obama could give an executive order to repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell, but if he does that by the same token the next president can put it back in place just as easily.

That's why he's trying to go for a long term lasting victory rather something short term which can be swept away by the changing tides of executive power...

It would have been that way unless the law sets a barrier. Will check.

28 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:16:34am

re: #25 soap_man

There's a reason there is so many young libertarians...

Pot?

29 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:17:22am

re: #28 Guanxi88

Pot?

I was gonna say, same reason there were so many young hippies in the 60's... but now I realize that answer is still valid isn't it?

30 lostlakehiker  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:18:16am

re: #12 soap_man

When I was in high school, I knew a kid who grew up in Bosnia. Although he did everything with his left hand, he wrote with his right. He explained that the teachers in Bosnia said being left-handed was "immoral" and the "Devil's hand". Anyone who was left-handed had their hand tied behind their back so they were forced to learn how to write right-handed. We all laughed at the silliness of that, as if he chose to be left-handed then could simply "choose" to be right-handed.

Maybe someday everybody will laugh at the fact that people think straight/gay is a choice, like those foolish teachers thought about handedness. It's not a decision made, but something one is born with.

There are many people, myself included, whose handedness was a matter of choice. As a child, I wrote both left handed and right handed. As an adult, I use the other hand to perform some tasks that most everybody does with their dominant hand. I throw right handed, shave left handed, etc.

Surely there are people who straddle the fence when it comes to sexuality? If so, that would be confirming evidence for the wrong-headed beliefs out there that everyone has a choice in this matter. As with global warming, those who want to believe one thing seize on any little bit of evidence pointing their way, while discounting the evidence, often stronger, that points the other way.

31 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:19:13am

re: #29 jamesfirecat

I was gonna say, same reason there were so many young hippies in the 60's... but now I realize that answer is still valid isn't it?

A lot of the folk who would have gone the Hippy route then go the libetarian route now. My mother was a gun-toting anti-communist jewbilly hippy. Ya know that stuff the dispensaries sell in Oakland for pharmaceutical use - yeah, you know - well, Ma was in that business before they got folk all tangled up with cards and permits and such.

32 fizzlogic  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:19:22am
“Go forth armed in the holy cause of liberty,”

Isn't it wonderful how religion is being melded into conservatism?...

Of course, all the sane conservatives don't see it happening. Nor do they hear dog whistle racism propagated by popular RW pundits.

33 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:19:46am

re: #19 jamesfirecat

Didn't we already have a post here about how the Tea Party convention was going to be closed off to journalists?

They credentialed 150 journalists [had to stay my fingers from hitting the scare quotes], including

One of the credentialed reporters is no less than Joseph Basel, one of the four activists who was arrested — and let out on bail — for the mysterious botched sting of Sen. Mary Landrieu’s (D-La.) office. “I’m here for myself,” Basel told me, after chatting with Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit and Andrew Breitbart of Big Government.

(I'd hat tip Killgore for posting it in the last thread if I hadn't posted it yesterday:)

34 Girth  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:20:29am

re: #22 webevintage

I've been trying to listen to the Tea Party and one of the comments during a Q&A someone asked how to get young folks involved.
Now one of the answers was to "Take back the schools" (not sure who took them since they are PUBLIC schools) but it amazes me that none of these folks seem to get that if they want their "movement" to work they need to get rid of the social conservative baggage.

Teens and young adults are just like all of us and there are folks who are fiscal conservatives at every age, BUT more and more younger Americans just do not care about issues that have a religious bent. So they want these "limited government" folks to be true to that. No getting involved in who can be married, who can serve in the military, what is taught in science class and abortion. All those things involve micro-managing our lives and young voters really seem to reject those views.

I saw that and was thinking the exact same thing. If they don't separate the fiscal from the social issues, they'll lose an entire generation.

35 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:20:30am

re: #24 Guanxi88

re: #24 Guanxi88

Don't want to embarrass you--hit my avatar.

36 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:20:39am

re: #28 Guanxi88

Pot?

I know you meant it as a joke, but it's true. My generation almost universally opposes drug laws, especially with small time stuff like pot. This is true even with people who don't do any drugs at all. As the "Reefer Madness" generation starts to die out, the legalization of pot is just a matter of time...

37 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:21:35am

re: #35 Decatur Deb

re: #24 Guanxi88

Don't want to embarrass you--hit my avatar.

Eh, so I screwed up. I retract my earlier remarks, and reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks:

He's a FAKE! He ain't no 'bama boy!

38 webevintage  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:21:59am

I guess I kind of wish the Tea Party folks were not full ofshit.

Nothing wrong with a movement reminding the pols that they work for us and should be more careful with our money. That smaller gov't is not always a bad idea. To me railing against the gov't being involved in our lives but then wanting the gov't to regulate so much that has to do with sex is just BS.

39 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:22:44am

re: #36 soap_man

I know you meant it as a joke, but it's true. My generation almost universally opposes drug laws, especially with small time stuff like pot. This is true even with people who don't do any drugs at all. As the "Reefer Madness" generation starts to die out, the legalization of pot is just a matter of time...

Reefer Madness?


40 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:22:58am

re: #36 soap_man

As the "Reefer Madness" generation starts to die out, the legalization of pot is just a matter of time...

you kidding me? When I knew people who indulged in such things (*cough*) they swore that Reefer Madness was a hoot to watch when you're high, but that 2001: A Space Odyssey was still the film to see when under the influence.

41 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:23:13am

re: #19 jamesfirecat

Didn't we already have a post here about how the Tea Party convention was going to be closed off to journalists?

More, from one of Lawhawk's links:

First You Hate Us, Then You Love Us, Sort Of
In the beginning, the National Tea Party Convention held its media passes close. It was a "working" conference, the media relations team said. Organizer Judson Phillips said space and access were limited, with only Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, and conservative websites Breitbart.com, Townhall.com and WorldNetDaily making the cut. But by Friday, Phillips instead was bragging about media representatives from Canada, Ireland, France and even Al Jazeera English. (Germany has an especially large contingent.) C-Span is broadcasting sessions, and pjtv.com is streaming some events live. Phillips encouraged cooperation, though in practically every workshop and interview the MSM, or mainstream media, are named as complicit in the downfall of American society. A side effect of the wall-to-wall coverage: I've been stopped by several journalists anxious for reaction from a black Tea Party member. The guy from CNN looked so disappointed when I told him I was a working journalist, too.
42 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:23:19am

re: #30 lostlakehiker

There are many people, myself included, whose handedness was a matter of choice. As a child, I wrote both left handed and right handed. As an adult, I use the other hand to perform some tasks that most everybody does with their dominant hand. I throw right handed, shave left handed, etc.

Surely there are people who straddle the fence when it comes to sexuality? If so, that would be confirming evidence for the wrong-headed beliefs out there that everyone has a choice in this matter. As with global warming, those who want to believe one thing seize on any little bit of evidence pointing their way, while discounting the evidence, often stronger, that points the other way.

There are people who are left handed, there are people who are right handed, there are people who are ambidextrous.

There are people who are gay, there are people who are straight and there are people who are bisexual.

I'm certain there are people who are bisexual who manage to live long contented relationships with one person who is not a hermaphrodite thus choosing to exercise their love for only one of the two genders that they find attractive.

If you want to prove that we don't have a choice in the matter, I suggest all those who do go out there and try and fall in love with someone of the opposite gender they're normally attracted to.

Granted Ted Haggard seems to have already taken my advice to heart....

43 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:24:39am

re: #39 MandyManners

Reefer Madness?

[Video]

A classic! Truly hilarious.

Faster! Play it faster!

44 jaunte  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:24:43am

re: #38 webevintage

Looks like the socons have grabbed the reins and they're not going to turn loose.

45 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:24:47am

re: #37 Guanxi88

Eh, so I screwed up. I retract my earlier remarks, and reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks:

He's a FAKE! He ain't no 'bama boy!

I'm stuck with the nic, it was my dad's plane. My welcoming message from LGF was a gallant pass to a southern girl. Think Pittsburgh, hard hats.

46 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:25:46am

I got my tv signal back. I just had to knock the snow off with a broom (and yes, that's what the kids are calling it these days.) But there's nothing on I want to watch.

47 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:25:50am

re: #45 Decatur Deb

I'm stuck with the nic, it was my dad's plane. My welcoming message from LGF was a gallant pass to a southern girl. Think Pittsburgh, hard hats.

She's a beautiful craft, I tell you what.

48 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:25:57am

re: #40 Guanxi88

you kidding me? When I knew people who indulged in such things (*cough*) they swore that Reefer Madness was a hoot to watch when you're high, but that 2001: A Space Odyssey was still the film to see when under the influence.

Pink Floyd at the Hayden Planetarium (or so I'm told).

49 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:26:35am

re: #43 Guanxi88

A classic! Truly hilarious.

Faster! Play it faster!

I've never seen anyone act that way while stoned.

50 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:27:02am

re: #46 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got my tv signal back. I just had to knock the snow off with a broom (and yes, that's what the kids are calling it these days.) But there's nothing on I want to watch.

Beat me to it.

51 webevintage  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:27:31am

re: #41 wrenchwench

I've been stopped by several journalists anxious for reaction from a black Tea Party member. The guy from CNN looked so disappointed when I told him I was a working journalist, too.

and yeah, it is hard to be a "sweeping" movement that will change America when you are only speaking for one segment of the population.
They really need to, loud and clear, proclaim that racisits and dog whistle shit like Trancado said last night has no place in their "big tent".

(I'm sure people in the tea party movement could actually give a hoot what this liberal has to say.)

52 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:27:56am

re: #49 MandyManners

I've never seen anyone act that way while stoned.

Well, it would explain that guy who wigged out on the flight this week:

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

Kinman Chan, 30, tore up a rest room in the jet, came out with his pants down and launched into a fracas with crew members who tried to subdue him while the plane was flying from Philadelphia to Los Angeles Sunday.

Chan was charged in a criminal complaint with interfering with the duties of a flight attendant.

Crew members said Chan made odd gestures before he entered the plane's rear rest room shortly after takeoff and began to scream, according to the complaint.

Chan told the FBI that he "came back to reality" and exited the rest room, at which point the crew noticed his "pants were down, his shirt was untucked and all the compartments in the rest room were opened."

When crew members tried to get Chan to sit, he fought them and had to be subdued in a choke hold, the complaint said.
Chan told agents who interviewed him in Pittsburgh that he ate marijuana cookies while waiting for his flight to depart in Philadelphia.

Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

53 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:28:29am

re: #46 Mad Al-Jaffee

I meant knock the snow off the satellite dish. PIMF

54 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:29:12am

re: #52 Guanxi88

Wow.

55 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:29:12am

re: #49 MandyManners

I've never seen anyone act that way while stoned.

I bet people who saw Reefer Madness before they ever smoked pot were extremely disappointed when they first got high.

*cough*man this shit is weak*cough*cough*

56 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:29:14am

re: #51 webevintage

and yeah, it is hard to be a "sweeping" movement that will change America when you are only speaking for one segment of the population.
They really need to, loud and clear, proclaim that racisits and dog whistle shit like Trancado said last night has no place in their "big tent".

(I'm sure people in the tea party movement could actually give a hoot what this liberal has to say.)

Here's another eyewitness account:

I’ve spent the day listening to speeches here at the Tea Party National Convention, and talking to some of the other delegates. For the most part, no big surprises: The folks are sociable, middle-aged, white (I think I counted two black adults in the whole room — though, interestingly, both of them ended up on the podium, giving speeches) and mad as hell that Barack Obama is conspiring with the United Nations to turn America into a socialist province of a One World State.
57 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:29:41am

re: #53 Mad Al-Jaffee

I meant knock the snow off the satellite dish. PIMF

Sure you did.

58 Lidane  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:30:11am

I will never, ever understand the constant obsession that these people have with homosexuality. I just don't get it.

“Go forth armed in the holy cause of liberty."

Yeah. That doesn't make me nervous at all.

Whackjobs, the lot of them.

59 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:30:34am

re: #54 MandyManners

Wow.

Yeah, I'm no expert, but I'll hazard a guess that it probably WASN'T his marijuana-laced pastries that made him act like he'd just down a case of Red Bulls to wash away the taste from the three bumps of crystal meth he did to clear out the sting from the lines of coke.

60 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:30:35am

re: #55 soap_man

I bet people who saw Reefer Madness before they ever smoked pot were extremely disappointed when they first got high.

*cough*man this shit is weak*cough*cough*

I wonder how many were enticed to smoke pot after watching it.

61 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:31:27am

re: #58 Lidane

I will never, ever understand the constant obsession that these people have with homosexuality. I just don't get it.

It seems to be inclusive of any "unapproved" sex.

62 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:31:45am

re: #59 Guanxi88

Yeah, I'm no expert, but I'll hazard a guess that it probably WASN'T his marijuana-laced pastries that made him act like he'd just down a case of Red Bulls to wash away the taste from the three bumps of crystal meth he did to clear out the sting from the lines of coke.

Shoulda' done some smack.

63 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:31:49am

re: #27 Decatur Deb

It would have been that way unless the law sets a barrier. Will check.

Link here:

[Link: www.sldn.org...]

64 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:32:06am

re: #61 allegro

It seems to be inclusive of any "unapproved" sex.

Jail the fornicators!

65 jaunte  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:32:38am

re: #58 Lidane

They imagine that someone can be "turned gay" and are afraid it will be themselves.

66 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:00am

re: #60 MandyManners

I wonder how many were enticed to smoke pot after watching it.

Big revival on campuses in the '60s.

67 Lidane  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:09am

re: #61 allegro

It seems to be inclusive of any "unapproved" sex.

Fair point. I guess I just focused on Moore's ranting about gays, but you're right. They're obsessed with the sex lives of others to a scary degree.

68 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:20am

re: #64 MandyManners

Jail the fornicators!

Oh, yes, absolutely. Put them all together in a big dormitory with community showers. That'll fix 'em.

69 filetandrelease  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:28am

It is getting to the point with these religious nuts "trying" to take control of the GOP that if it wasn't for the primaries I would switch to Independent.

70 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:36am

re: #61 allegro

It seems to be inclusive of any "unapproved" sex.

And by "unapproved" they mean "unmarried" and not in the missionary position, which is the only acceptable position because you're "doing goods work" at the time, hence why it's called the missionary position in the first place.

Also your wife better be ovulating when you do it!

71 Girth  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:53am

re: #60 MandyManners

I wonder how many were enticed to smoke pot after watching it.

Kids will be much more inclined to follow society's advice about drugs if they're not being lied to.

72 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:34:13am

re: #60 MandyManners

I wonder how many were enticed to smoke pot after watching it.

Tell you this much - that flick probably led to greater cynicism and distrust of authority than just about anything short of the Watergate break-in.

I mean, if they lie that big about something that small, can you really trust ANYTHING they've got to tell you after that?

73 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:34:41am

re: #66 Decatur Deb

Big revival on campuses in the '60s.

I missed it.

74 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:35:33am

re: #72 Guanxi88

Tell you this much - that flick probably led to greater cynicism and distrust of authority than just about anything short of the Watergate break-in.

I mean, if they lie that big about something that small, can you really trust ANYTHING they've got to tell you after that?

You mean the Easter Bunny's not real?

75 filetandrelease  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:35:47am

re: #72 Guanxi88

Tell you this much - that flick probably led to greater cynicism and distrust of authority than just about anything short of the Watergate break-in.

I mean, if they lie that big about something that small, can you really trust ANYTHING they've got to tell you after that?

No.

76 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:36:06am

re: #61 allegro

It seems to be inclusive of any "unapproved" sex.

Reminds me of a quote from The West Wing which was spoken to a social conservative...

"You guys love small government. You want to shrink it down so it's just small enough to fit in everyone's bedrooms."

77 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:36:18am

re: #71 Girth

AGW-Captain Planet

78 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:36:33am

I notice Pamela quotes Mark Steyn, who actually passed Pamela a private email from me to him, urging him not to associate with her.

Yep, I wrote to Mark Steyn warning him about Geller, years ago, because we had exchanged emails before and he seemed like a reasonable person. Another mistake I won't make again!

Telling this kook Geller about a private email I wrote is the kind of classless behavior I now expect from right wing pundits.

But please note -- Steyn claims:

Charles Johnson wrote both to me and my publishers urging us to disinvite you as a ‘dangerous’ and ‘crazy’ person.

I wrote to Steyn. I did NOT write to his "publishers." This is a lie. So in addition to being a classless unethical jerk who reveals private emails, Steyn is also a liar.

79 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:36:51am

re: #68 allegro

Oh, yes, absolutely. Put them all together in a big dormitory with community showers. That'll fix 'em.

Or, put them on The Bad Girls' Club on Oxygen.

80 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:36:55am

re: #66 Decatur Deb

Big revival on campuses in the '60s.

When I was in high school (circa 1968), my brother got an 8mm copy of Reefer Madness and set up the old family projector. A bunch of us sat there in his bedroom watching it on the wall while we toked liberally. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard.

81 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:37:15am

re: #67 Lidane

Fair point. I guess I just focused on Moore's ranting about gays, but you're right. They're obsessed with the sex lives of others to a scary degree.

His real passion is putting the 10 Commandments into courtrooms. That's why he was busted out of our SC. My wife has the (Catholic) Commandments over her piano--I don't need them in the courthouse.

82 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:37:18am

re: #57 MandyManners

Sure you did.

I could post something about knocking the snow off of your dish, but that wouldn't be polite.

83 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:37:43am

re: #71 Girth

Kids will be much more inclined to follow society's advice about drugs if they're not being lied to.

I wonder how Yuppie parents answered their kids when they asked if they smoked pot.

84 shiplord kirel  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:38:22am

Roy Moore? Wasn't he the "Law West of the Pecos?"

Oh, that was Roy Bean. (I have trouble telling these throwbacks apart.)

85 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:38:31am

re: #73 MandyManners

I missed it.

If you remember it, you weren't there. (Zappa??)

86 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:39:01am

re: #83 MandyManners

I wonder how Yuppie parents answered their kids when they asked if they smoked pot.

It's bound to be an awkward conversation. I defer to the wisdom of Chef from south park, who, when he thought the kids were high, said to them:

"Now, children, what did I tell you about drugs?"

"You said there's a time and a place for everything, and it's called college."

87 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:39:03am

re: #82 Mad Al-Jaffee

w00t

88 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:39:55am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Some Scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

Zappa.

89 keloyd  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:40:01am

re: #12 soap_man
There's no question about the biological origins of left handedness (full disclosure, I am typing left handed right now.) With the homosexuals, it's all speculation all the time, on both sides (full disclosure, I don't have a dog in that race.) We can only be certain that the males go that way at a pretty early age and have no reason to choose it. I wouldn;t be surprised if something in the environment/food/hormones given to animals/psychology/etc. gets at kids ages 2 to 7, then after that it's 'cooked into the pie'.

re: #46 Mad Al-Jaffee
If you knocked the snow off with a pringles can I'd say you were bragging.

re: #52 Guanxi88
That could be interpreted as a reason for the government to regulate the quality of marijuana and tax it like my Basil Hayden bourbon.

90 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:40:57am

re: #83 MandyManners

I wonder how Yuppie parents answered their kids when they asked if they smoked pot.

Most of the ones I know were quite honest about it. They were pretty much like my dad was about alcohol - when you're old enough, it's up to you. Before then, if you do it, especially while out driving, it's whoop ass.

91 Lidane  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:41:06am

re: #65 jaunte

They imagine that someone can be "turned gay" and are afraid it will be themselves.

The more that I think about it, I'm convinced it's just a generalized fear of the unknown.

They're afraid of becoming a minority. They're afraid of foreigners taking their jobs. They're afraid of "becoming" gay if gays aren't killed and/or imprisoned. They're afraid of people actually enjoying sex for its own sake. They're afraid of the fact that a black man with an African name is sitting in the White House. The list goes on.

It's just an overall, encompassing fear of everything that challenges their status quo and their comfort zones. I can't imagine living my life like that. What a sad existence that must be.

92 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:41:17am

re: #76 soap_man

Reminds me of a quote from The West Wing which was spoken to a social conservative...

"You guys love small government. You want to shrink it down so it's just small enough to fit in everyone's bedrooms."

Wow, now THAT is a great zing.

93 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:41:27am

re: #89 keloyd


re: #52 Guanxi88
That could be interpreted as a reason for the government to regulate the quality of marijuana and tax it like my Basil Hayden bourbon.

If only they would. Bring some damned order and stability to the known market for a vice perhaps no worse than whiskey and Marlboros, and generate a bit of revenue.

94 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:41:31am

re: #83 MandyManners

I wonder how Yuppie parents answered their kids when they asked if they smoked pot.

Don't get caught. If you get caught, don't dump attitude on your mother when she comes to bail you out. They never listen.

95 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:41:43am

re: #71 Girth

Kids will be much more inclined to follow society's advice about drugs if they're not being lied to.

Oh God, do you remember those commercials about how pot would turn you into a terrorist or make you run over little kids with your car?

My favorite was the one where the two kids are smoking pot in their dad's home office and one grabs a gun from his desk drawer and accidentally shoots the other kid. The ad implied it was because they smoked pot. But how about the dad who left a loaded gun in an unlocked drawer.

96 shiplord kirel  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:42:02am

A tip for defense boffins: Make sure sure the geographic parameters are right if you engineer our drones to home automatically on Taliban propaganda. Roy and a host of others could be at risk if you don't.

97 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:42:09am

re: #89 keloyd

(full disclosure, I am typing left handed right now.)

Full disclosure ,,, if i limited typing to one hand it would mean I'm typing with one thumb!
/

98 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:42:42am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

Don't get caught. If you get caught, don't dump attitude on your mother when she comes to bail you out. They never listen.

Don't ever buy it from a guy who won't smoke it with you. Never buy more than you need for short-term use, and NEVER, EVER, buy or sell with anyone you don't know well.

99 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:42:56am

re: #83 MandyManners

I wonder how Yuppie parents answered their kids when they asked if they smoked pot.

"pass the pipe, junior!"

100 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:43:07am

re: #90 allegro

Most of the ones I know were quite honest about it. They were pretty much like my dad was about alcohol - when you're old enough, it's up to you. Before then, if you do it, especially while out driving, it's whoop ass.

I like it except that it's illegal and I don't want to approve of an illegal actitivty.

101 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:12am

re: #100 MandyManners

I like it except that it's illegal and I don't want to approve of an illegal actitivty.

Well, there is that side of it, of course, but still...

This country has a long and honorable tradition of decent, civic-minded folk breaking silly laws. I;m not saying it's right or even logically consistent, but the trope of the moonshiner with the sheriff to vouch for his quality is too well known.

102 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:14am

re: #83 MandyManners

I wonder how Yuppie parents answered their kids when they asked if they smoked pot.

",,,, ummm,,,, dude ,,,, ummm,,, what was the question!?!?!"

103 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:19am

re: #89 keloyd

There's no question about the biological origins of left handedness (full disclosure, I am typing left handed right now.) With the homosexuals, it's all speculation all the time, on both sides (full disclosure, I don't have a dog in that race.) We can only be certain that the males go that way at a pretty early age and have no reason to choose it. I wouldn;t be surprised if something in the environment/food/hormones given to animals/psychology/etc. gets at kids ages 2 to 7, then after that it's 'cooked into the pie'.

re: #46 Mad Al-Jaffee
If you knocked the snow off with a pringles can I'd say you were bragging.

re: #52 Guanxi88
That could be interpreted as a reason for the government to regulate the quality of marijuana and tax it like my Basil Hayden bourbon.

Well here's something interesting to think about.

Left handed people, regardless of gender have more testosterone in their systems on average.

The study also found out that left handed women are more likely to be lesbians than right handed women on average, which makes a certain amount of sense if you think about it.

But the study also found that left handed men were more likely to be homosexual then right handed men...

Not sure what that says about if we choose it or not, but its an interesting thing to think about isn't it?

104 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:20am

re: #100 MandyManners

I like it except that it's illegal and I don't want to approve of an illegal actitivty.

Oh, yeah, I forgot that part. Like others have said, the rest of the message is "don't get caught and when you find some good shit, SHARE."

105 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:38am

re: #100 MandyManners

It is about to get legal at least in a few states.

106 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:39am

re: #98 Guanxi88

Don't ever buy it from a guy who won't smoke it with you. Never buy more than you need for short-term use, and NEVER, EVER, buy or sell with anyone you don't know well.

Don't smoke it with your buddy who got busted last month and is working off sheriff karma.

107 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:46:12am

According to HA, it appears that the "...Tea Party organizations will hold a presser later today to condemn Birtherism and distance themselves from it"

That would be a positive development...

108 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:46:25am
109 SpaceJesus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:46:42am

if these guys are so bold and so ready to fight for their beliefs (bigotry), why don't they grow a pair and hold this same rally in downtown San Fran or the Castro?

110 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:46:59am

re: #95 soap_man

Oh God, do you remember those commercials about how pot would turn you into a terrorist or make you run over little kids with your car?

My favorite was the one where the two kids are smoking pot in their dad's home office and one grabs a gun from his desk drawer and accidentally shoots the other kid. The ad implied it was because they smoked pot. But how about the dad who left a loaded gun in an unlocked drawer.

My favorite was the one about how buying pot pays for terrorist weapons, so clearly the lesson here is, grow your own!

111 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:47:15am

Southpaw - I know two guitarists (both former band mates) who are left handed but play guitar right handed.

112 webevintage  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:47:41am

re: #100 MandyManners

I like it except that it's illegal and I don't want to approve of an illegal actitivty.

Yeah.
I've always said that if I did not have a kid who could be taken from me that pot would be my choice for helping me sleep at night.
Though when my hubby got sick last year we did discuss how to go about getting weed if he had to go though chemo.
(in Arkansas we get no medical mj relief...maybe some day)

My husband and I have been pretty open with our son (17) about sex, drugs and drink in our youth. Mostly we talk about how stupid we were and how damn lucky we are that there were no teen pregnancies or going to jail or dead in a car accident.

113 Girth  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:47:52am

re: #95 soap_man

Oh God, do you remember those commercials about how pot would turn you into a terrorist or make you run over little kids with your car?

My favorite was the one where the two kids are smoking pot in their dad's home office and one grabs a gun from his desk drawer and accidentally shoots the other kid. The ad implied it was because they smoked pot. But how about the dad who left a loaded gun in an unlocked drawer.

Yeah I remember that one. That was awful.

114 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:48:01am

re: #107 lawhawk

According to HA, it appears that the "...Tea Party organizations will hold a presser later today to condemn Birtherism and distance themselves from it"

That would be a positive development...

Really?

115 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:48:22am

re: #78 Charles

So you're going to tweak the retweeted shrieker?

She does some incredible pirouettes to quote the NYT approvingly, while also saying:

The only ones who take him seriously anymore are the dwindling numbers of people who still listen to the dinosaur media.
116 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:48:30am

re: #100 MandyManners

I like it except that it's illegal and I don't want to approve of an illegal actitivty.

Do you tell your kids that they ALWAYS need to drive the speed limit as well?

117 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:48:35am

re: #110 jamesfirecat

My favorite was the one about how buying pot pays for terrorist weapons, so clearly the lesson here is, grow your own!

Very true. Or just make it legal and remove it from the black market. We are funding both sides of the drug war. When you do that, it is impossible to win any war.

118 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:49:14am

re: #107 lawhawk

According to HA, it appears that the "...Tea Party organizations will hold a presser later today to condemn Birtherism and distance themselves from it"

That would be a positive development...

Maybe they should have done that BY NOT INVITING THE GUY WHO GAVE A BIRTHER SPEECH?

119 Guanxi88  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:49:34am

Duty calls!

As one judge said to another: "Be just, and if you can't be just, be arbitrary!"

120 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:50:13am

re: #111 Mad Al-Jaffee

Southpaw - I know two guitarists (both former band mates) who are left handed but play guitar right handed.

And conversely i'm righthanded but played hockey and play golf lefty!

121 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:50:14am

re: #78 Charles

I notice Pamela quotes Mark Steyn, who actually passed Pamela a private email from me to him, urging him not to associate with her.

Yep, I wrote to Mark Steyn warning him about Geller, years ago, because we had exchanged emails before and he seemed like a reasonable person. Another mistake I won't make again!

Telling this kook Geller about a private email I wrote is the kind of classless behavior I now expect from right wing pundits.

But please note -- Steyn claims:

I wrote to Steyn. I did NOT write to his "publishers." This is a lie. So in addition to being a classless unethical jerk who reveals private emails, Steyn is also a liar.


maybe Rush threatened to pull his substitute host gig if he didn't do something like this ...

122 Girth  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:51:03am

re: #111 Mad Al-Jaffee

Southpaw - I know two guitarists (both former band mates) who are left handed but play guitar right handed.

My father is left handed but used to play golf right handed. He wasn't great, but he wasn't terrible either.

123 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:51:40am

re: #116 jamesfirecat

Do you tell your kids that they ALWAYS need to drive the speed limit as well?

You don't go to prison for doing 65 in a 55.


124 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:52:48am

re: #116 jamesfirecat

Do you tell your kids that they ALWAYS need to drive the speed limit as well?

I was much more strict with their driving. I yanked Number 2 son's license for six months over "one" beer.

125 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:53:04am

re: #107 lawhawk

According to HA, it appears that the "...Tea Party organizations will hold a presser later today to condemn Birtherism and distance themselves from it"

That would be a positive development...

After the keynote speaker goes full-on Birther, with cheers and a standing ovation from the crowd?

Seems a little late.

126 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:53:17am

re: #122 Girth

My father is left handed but used to play golf right handed. He wasn't great, but he wasn't terrible either.

Not knowing your fathers 'vintage", but if he took up the sport years and years ago there was a real dirth of lefty clubs available (most were custom jobs). Could have been he was forced to use righty ones if he wanted to play

127 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:54:35am

I'll betcha Sarah Palin had something to do with this press conference. Probably gave the organizers an ultimatum.

128 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:55:27am

re: #122 Girth

My father is left handed but used to play golf right handed. He wasn't great, but he wasn't terrible either.

I mentioned here before that I've never fired a gun, but I went to an archery class once. And although I am right-handed, I was told by the ranger that I should shoot an arrow (or gun) left-handed because of which eye is dominant. It feels so strange, but I was much more accurate after I switched sides. That was useful information, should the need ever come up.

129 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:56:10am

re: #127 Charles

I'll betcha Sarah Palin had something to do with this press conference. Probably gave the organizers an ultimatum.

Also.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

130 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:57:00am

re: #128 soap_man

I mentioned here before that I've never fired a gun, but I went to an archery class once. And although I am right-handed, I was told by the ranger that I should shoot an arrow (or gun) left-handed because of which eye is dominant. It feels so strange, but I was much more accurate after I switched sides. That was useful information, should the need ever come up.

While I was in, the army transitioned from M14 to M16 rifles. The M14 could only be fired right handed, M16 is optional with a deflector.

131 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:57:12am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

I was much more strict with their driving. I yanked Number 2 son's license for six months over "one" beer.

One beer while driving? Or did the drinking have nothing to do with driving, and yanking the keys was the chosen punishment?

132 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:58:11am

re: #131 soap_man

One beer while driving? Or did the drinking have nothing to do with driving, and yanking the keys was the chosen punishment?

Age issue, would be my guess

133 Locker  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:58:15am

Good morning all. I, for one, am all tea partied out. Can't we have a keg party or something? BBQ party? I'm so desperate I'd even settle for one of my wife's scrap booking parties...

134 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:58:34am

re: #131 soap_man

Dropped a stupid Honda scooter. Accident sent him to ER. ER almost killed him.

135 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:58:38am

re: #123 MandyManners

You don't go to prison for doing 65 in a 55.

[Video]

Well you argued that you didn't want to advise your kids about doing ANYTHING illegal.

I'm not saying you don't have a good point, I'm just saying its moving the goal posts from your previous position...

136 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:58:57am

re: #130 Decatur Deb

While I was in, the army transitioned from M14 to M16 rifles. The M14 could only be fired right handed, M16 is optional with a deflector.

Really? How does one make a gun that can only be fired right-handed? (Exposing my firearms ignorance here)

137 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:59:13am

re: #133 Locker

Good morning all. I, for one, am all tea partied out. Can't we have a keg party or something? BBQ party? I'm so desperate I'd even settle for one of my wife's scrap booking parties...

Cookie exchange? It sounds like there are some people on this thread acquainted with the munchies.

138 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:59:24am

Andrew Breitbart to Media at Tea Party Convention: "It's You That Sucks"


He also denies racism and homophobic influence in the Tea Parties despite the fact that homophobic and racist speeches get cheers and applause from the audience.

139 Locker  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:59:34am

re: #136 soap_man

Really? How does one make a gun that can only be fired right-handed? (Exposing my firearms ignorance here)

If the ejection chamber is on a specific side, you can't really put your face there to fire it.

140 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:59:44am

re: #133 Locker

I'm so desperate I'd even settle for one of my wife's scrap booking parties...

Oh, sweet jebus, that is desperate.

141 keloyd  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:00:14am

Our benevolent leaders who care only for our safety are unintentionally doing us a small favor with these ridiculous laws about drinking ages, drinking in the car, and weed. Kids learn resourcefulness and that they should have an arm's length relationship with the government when they want a drink, or when they pour a beer into a big gulp cup before a long roadtrip*.

*(13 beers - bad, 1 or 2 - not the government's business)

142 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:00:25am

re: #136 soap_man

Really? How does one make a gun that can only be fired right-handed? (Exposing my firearms ignorance here)

The expended brass ejected into your face if you fired left-handed. Made the next round interesting.

143 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:00:50am

re: #136 soap_man

Really? How does one make a gun that can only be fired right-handed? (Exposing my firearms ignorance here)

It has to do with how the bullets leave the gun when you shoot it. If its positioned wrong the natural grip for a left handed person can leave the bullets flying into their hand, and nobody wants to get burned every time they fire their weapon.

That's how I understand it at least...

144 Locker  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:01:04am

re: #137 EmmmieG

Cookie exchange? It sounds like there are some people on this thread acquainted with the munchies.

I so love you right now. I'm going to upgrade it to Cookie and Brownie exchange. Not sure about the rest of the country but to me the following equation is always true:

Chocolaty Goodness > Outrage

145 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:01:33am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Dropped a stupid Honda scooter. Accident sent him to ER. ER almost killed him.

Then that was a well-deserved punishment.

I never had my car keys taken, but my dad was an expert in creative punishment. One time he caught me with pot and turned the power off in my bedroom for a few months (I spent a lot of time in there avoiding my parents, like most teenagers, so the lack of power really sucked). One time I yelled at my mom and slammed my bedroom door, so he took the bedroom door off the hinges.

146 simoom  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:02:02am

re: #118 jamesfirecat

Maybe they should have done that BY NOT INVITING THE GUY WHO GAVE A BIRTHER SPEECH?

Exactly. They can't pretend they didn't know what the the founder and editor of World Net Daily was going to talk about. Even the most cursory look at his site reveals him as one of the prime movers in the Birther-sphere.

147 Girth  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:02:11am

re: #130 Decatur Deb

While I was in, the army transitioned from M14 to M16 rifles. The M14 could only be fired right handed, M16 is optional with a deflector.

My dad bought himself a beautiful .300 Winchester short-mag rifle a few years ago but can't hunt anymore because of a physical condition. I thought about taking it out with me this last deer season, but I was crushed when he grinned and told me that it's a left-handed bolt action. Didn't even cross my mind before that.

148 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:02:39am

re: #139 Locker

re: #142 Decatur Deb

re: #144 Locker

Thanks for the knowledge.

149 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:02:43am

re: #127 Charles

I'll betcha Sarah Palin had something to do with this press conference. Probably gave the organizers an ultimatum.

Could be divisive. hee hee.

150 soap_man  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:02:57am

re: #143 jamesfirecat

You too. :)

151 Locker  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:04:18am

OT: This Tottenham v Aston Villa game is tense and exciting. I enjoy Saturday mornings sooo much more now and it gives me a reason not to completely despise Fox (Fox Soccer Channel ftw).

152 SpaceJesus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:04:28am

hey, it only costs 350 bucks plus a small fee to be able to eat steak and lobster with sarah palin at this thing.

[Link: tpn.eventbrite.com...]

this is truly the party of the everyday workin' man like you and I.

153 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:04:32am

re: #145 soap_man

Then that was a well-deserved punishment.

I never had my car keys taken, but my dad was an expert in creative punishment. One time he caught me with pot and turned the power off in my bedroom for a few months (I spent a lot of time in there avoiding my parents, like most teenagers, so the lack of power really sucked). One time I yelled at my mom and slammed my bedroom door, so he took the bedroom door off the hinges.

If you dropped the consumer electronics power on today's kids, they would wander the fields with dazed expressions.

154 keloyd  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:04:40am

Ahem "It's you who sucks."

155 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:05:13am

re: #148 soap_man

re: #142 Decatur Deb

re: #144 Locker

Thanks for the knowledge.

Use it only for the Good.

156 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:06:53am

Sometimes pious folks like executing people for being gay.
Sometimes pious folks like burying a woman alive for talking to men.
Sometimes pious folks just suck.

157 subsailor68  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:07:26am

re: #145 soap_man

Then that was a well-deserved punishment.

I never had my car keys taken, but my dad was an expert in creative punishment. One time he caught me with pot and turned the power off in my bedroom for a few months (I spent a lot of time in there avoiding my parents, like most teenagers, so the lack of power really sucked). One time I yelled at my mom and slammed my bedroom door, so he took the bedroom door off the hinges.

LOL! You reminded me of the time on the submarine when the nukes (the guys back aft who ran the plant) got mad at the executive officer. They stole the door to his stateroom and hid it someplace in the engine room. The XO looked for it for a week - and never found it. The captain went along with the joke (he was very cool) until he finally had to make an announcement that there would be no dessert until the XO's door was returned. The guys waited until the XO was having dinner in the wardroom and put it back. They never did fess up to a) being the ones who did it, or b) where they'd hidden it. (I only know it was them 'cause they told me one night at a bar in Hong Kong.)

158 SpaceJesus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:09:30am

yay for racism, down with multiculturalism!

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

"The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and 'the cult of multiculturalism,' asserting that Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country.'"

159 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:10:16am

re: #157 subsailor68

That's funny. Another triumph of the Personnel Reliability Program.

160 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:10:54am

re: #157 subsailor68

My ability to appreciate that story comes from having watched Das Boot last week.

161 Girth  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:13:12am

re: #160 wrenchwench

My ability to appreciate that story comes from having watched Das Boot last week.

That's impossible. That movie is over a week long.

162 subsailor68  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:14:50am

re: #160 wrenchwench

My ability to appreciate that story comes from having watched Das Boot last week.

Great, great movie! IIRC there were a couple of interesting things about it. Wolfgang Peterson (sp?) the director tried to find plans for the boat in Germany, but there weren't any. He ended up going to the U-505 in Chicago to get the drawings for his sets (which is why the boat looks so real). He also had his tech guys invent the gimbal cam that he used to make the runs through the compartments. If I remember right, they won the Oscar for that.

163 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:14:52am

re: #161 Girth

That's impossible. That movie is over a week long.

I didn't do it in one sitting, either. And I watched a couple of parts twice, to compare the dubbed translation to the subtitles.

164 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:22:29am

re: #162 subsailor68

It was outstanding. Even though it's a war movie, a lot of the action was men's facial expressions. Plus standing in the conning tower screaming "Faster damnit!"

165 subsailor68  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:25:36am

re: #164 wrenchwench

It was outstanding. Even though it's a war movie, a lot of the action was men's facial expressions. Plus standing in the conning tower screaming "Faster damnit!"

The novel was outstanding as well. I think (it's been a long time) the author was actually a young journalist who made the run that he writes about, and the end was based on what happened to that boat and crew.

166 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:27:02am

re: #164 wrenchwench

It was outstanding. Even though it's a war movie, a lot of the action was men's facial expressions. Plus standing in the conning tower screaming "Faster damnit!"

It was a great movie, but I resented its power to manipulate sympathy. The U-boat crews were a highly devoted bunch through selection and indoctrination.

167 allegro  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:32:22am

re: #164 wrenchwench

Plus standing in the conning tower screaming "Faster damnit!"

Were they watching Reefer Madness?

168 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:43:56am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

The expended brass ejected into your face if you fired left-handed. Made the next round interesting.

Not only, but the bolt had a tendency to rip your cheek open.

(Click to enlarge the image)

[Link: www.gunsamerica.com...]

169 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:52:55am

Hard to believe that this guy was not only a state supreme court justice but chief justice of his state. What a loon. The usual Obama hates America crap and the evil gays too. Guy needs to get a life.

170 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 12:01:05pm

re: #55 soap_man

I bet people who saw Reefer Madness before they ever smoked pot were extremely disappointed when they first got high.

*cough*man this shit is weak*cough*cough*

One of my comments while I watched the first puff/hallucination scene in the musical Reefer Madness was "Shit. I want some of that good pot they had in the 30s."

171 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 12:05:13pm

re: #168 austin_blue

Not only, but the bolt had a tendency to rip your cheek open.

(Click to enlarge the image)

[Link: www.gunsamerica.com...]

Moral of the story once they started making guns for left handed people, (not only letting them serve in the armed forces but catering to their "special needs") it became only a mater of time till they let gays serve as well...

///

172 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 12:18:29pm

re: #127 Charles

I'll betcha Sarah Palin had something to do with this press conference. Probably gave the organizers an ultimatum.

And that would have carried more weight if it was done before they went with the Birther chic to start off the convention....

173 Petero1818  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 12:57:07pm

What an asshole. Apparently he has total disregard for the old common law adage "the law should be a shield, and not a sword"

174 shai_au  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 2:37:34pm

Oh dear. And who else is speaking at this convention? Sarah Palin?

Nice group of people you're associating yourself with there.

175 boredtechindenver  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 8:43:00pm

re: #65 jaunte

They imagine that someone can be "turned gay" and are afraid it will be themselves.

Sorry to be posting on a dead thread, but I sleep days and catch up at night. Whenever I read or hear about people like Judge Moore, I am reminded of this from the Onion. WARNING, NSFW, contains explicit language. contents may make you spew liquid through your nose onto your keyboard and/or screen. HTH, HAND KTHXBAI.

176 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 8:43:48pm

re: #175 boredtechindenver

That's my all time favourite Onion column! :)

177 Hang a Ralph  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 9:43:09pm

I'm kind of wondering something here with all of this talk about homosexuality. Can someone explain to me how one man placing his male sexual organ into another man's rectal cavity is considered "normal". Just seems a bit on the strange side to me.

Hey Charles, didn't evolution make things where there was male and female and they seem to fit together just right and they actually produce continuation of the species? All of those organs just worked out perfectly.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that animals even engage in homosexual behavior. The whole idea just kind of kills anatomy 101. Seems kind of strange to say something is normal that defies all common sense.

Hey, I didn't even mention religion!!!

178 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:15:51pm

re: #177 Hang a Ralph

I'm kind of wondering something here with all of this talk about homosexuality. Can someone explain to me how one man placing his male sexual organ into another man's rectal cavity is considered "normal". Just seems a bit on the strange side to me.

Hey Charles, didn't evolution make things where there was male and female and they seem to fit together just right and they actually produce continuation of the species? All of those organs just worked out perfectly.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that animals even engage in homosexual behavior. The whole idea just kind of kills anatomy 101. Seems kind of strange to say something is normal that defies all common sense.

Hey, I didn't even mention religion!!!


You're also wrong as the day is long.

It's a gay pride baby!

179 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:16:29pm

re: #177 Hang a Ralph


Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that animals even engage in homosexual behavior.

Unsurprisingly, you are wrong about that as well. I doubt it will halt your homophobia though. Reality and facts never do.

180 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:18:34pm

re: #177 Hang a Ralph

Who cares if it's normal? If it's between consenting adults and not done in public, I have no problem with it. I don't want to do it, but I don't feel a need to impose my feeling about normalcy on others, either.

181 Jadespring  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:26:03pm

I've read a bit about troll anatomy though. In the gentalia department...woah...it's downright weird and doesn't seem normal at all.

Makes me squicky just thinking about it but hey that's just me I guess.

182 Hang a Ralph  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:32:00pm

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

I never said that I had a problem with consenting adults doing it in the privacy of their home or wherever. People are free to make their own choices to do whatever they want. I just simply stated that it seems like a strange habit. Given what we all know about basic human anatomy and such why it is considered a normal way of life? This seems to be a place where everybody is so interested in scientific fact I thought that someone could explain why it is considered "normal" behavior defies scientific reasoning.

Basic science teaches us that the the anus is made for ridding our bodies of waste and the penis is a male reproductive organ. Mixing those two together just does not add up. I think I am right on that one.

183 Hang a Ralph  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:33:23pm

re: #179 iceweasel

Tell me which ones do this so that I don't make an incorrect statement again. Thanks for the correction!!

184 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:36:28pm

re: #182 Hang a Ralph

I never said that I had a problem with consenting adults doing it in the privacy of their home or wherever. People are free to make their own choices to do whatever they want. I just simply stated that it seems like a strange habit. Given what we all know about basic human anatomy and such why it is considered a normal way of life? This seems to be a place where everybody is so interested in scientific fact I thought that someone could explain why it is considered "normal" behavior defies scientific reasoning.

Basic science teaches us that the the anus is made for ridding our bodies of waste and the penis is a male reproductive organ. Mixing those two together just does not add up. I think I am right on that one.

Science will also show us that the male penis is made for the expelling of urine, and yet we men bravely risk the fact that we might end up pissing on our sexual partners every time we make love to them.

Is it any more of a strange habit if a man and a woman do anal? Or how about if they do oral sex?

185 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:37:30pm

re: #183 Hang a Ralph

Tell me which ones do this so that I don't make an incorrect statement again. Thanks for the correction!!

Did you see the video I posted a link for?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Lions, Giraffes, Cheetahs, Dolphins, that's just to start with!

186 Jadespring  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:41:52pm

Don't forget penguins!

187 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:43:09pm

re: #182 Hang a Ralph

I never said that I had a problem with consenting adults doing it in the privacy of their home or wherever. People are free to make their own choices to do whatever they want. I just simply stated that it seems like a strange habit. Given what we all know about basic human anatomy and such why it is considered a normal way of life? This seems to be a place where everybody is so interested in scientific fact I thought that someone could explain why it is considered "normal" behavior defies scientific reasoning.

Basic science teaches us that the the anus is made for ridding our bodies of waste and the penis is a male reproductive organ. Mixing those two together just does not add up. I think I am right on that one.

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

Who cares if it's normal? If it's between consenting adults and not done in public, I have no problem with it. I don't want to do it, but I don't feel a need to impose my feeling about normalcy on others, either.

You didn't answer the question.

188 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:44:00pm

re: #186 Jadespring

Don't forget penguins!

And good bless those brave bonobos, never before has a single species taught us so much about so many naughty ways to get it on. Our porn industry "salutes" you!

189 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:45:06pm

re: #181 Jadespring

I've read a bit about troll anatomy though. In the gentalia department...woah...it's downright weird and doesn't seem normal at all.

Makes me squicky just thinking about it but hey that's just me I guess.

Well, this troll seems nice and gamey. I'll clear out some space in the freezer to hold him for lunch tomorrow. He'll be a nice pre-Super Bowl treat if he gets the stick.

190 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:46:31pm

re: #182 Hang a Ralph

I never said that I had a problem with consenting adults doing it in the privacy of their home or wherever. People are free to make their own choices to do whatever they want. I just simply stated that it seems like a strange habit. Given what we all know about basic human anatomy and such why it is considered a normal way of life? This seems to be a place where everybody is so interested in scientific fact I thought that someone could explain why it is considered "normal" behavior defies scientific reasoning.

Basic science teaches us that the the anus is made for ridding our bodies of waste and the penis is a male reproductive organ. Mixing those two together just does not add up. I think I am right on that one.

Oh also, I could be wrong on this, but don't women excrete urine out of their vagina? So how does that make it any better a choice to have sex with than an anus give or take the lack of natural lubricant....

191 Gus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:49:59pm

re: #177 Hang a Ralph

Here's the list genius:

African Elephant
Brown Bear
Brown Rat
Buffalo
Caribou
Cat (domestic)
Cheetah
Common Dolphin
Common Marmoset
Common Raccoon
Dog (domestic)
European Bison
Prea

And that's just mammals.

192 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:51:07pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Here's the list genius:

African Elephant
Brown Bear
Brown Rat
Buffalo
Caribou
Cat (domestic)
Cheetah
Common Dolphin
Common Marmoset
Common Raccoon
Dog (domestic)
European Bison
Prea

And that's just mammals.

I don't see lion on that list, they do it also!

193 Gus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:52:29pm

re: #192 jamesfirecat

I don't see lion on that list, they do it also!

Oh. That was from "selected mammals" from a larger list. So there's more.

194 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 10:54:05pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Oh. That was from "selected mammals" from a larger list. So there's more.

Ahh okay, I just like to make sure that lion is on the list so that I can make tasteless "gay pride" jokes.

195 Vambo  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:18:38pm

re: #177 Hang a Ralph

I'm kind of wondering something here with all of this talk about homosexuality. Can someone explain to me how one man placing his male sexual organ into another man's rectal cavity is considered "normal". Just seems a bit on the strange side to me.

Hey Charles, didn't evolution make things where there was male and female and they seem to fit together just right and they actually produce continuation of the species? All of those organs just worked out perfectly.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that animals even engage in homosexual behavior. The whole idea just kind of kills anatomy 101. Seems kind of strange to say something is normal that defies all common sense.

Hey, I didn't even mention religion!!!

That "strange" behavior has been around since the dawn of time - look into the habits of ancient Greeks, Islamic "wine poetry" of the 7th century, Melanesian traditions, and the Hijras of Hiduism. It wasn't until relatively recently (the birth of Christianity onwards) when people starting finding it "strange".

196 Hang a Ralph  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:24:35pm

re: #190 jamesfirecat

I don't believe that you are right about women excreting urine out of their vagina. I believe it is excreted out of the urethra. It is external to the vagina. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I won't be offended.

I believe that scientifically women match up with men and women match up with men sexually. The reproductive organs are just designed that way. Trust me, I had no choice in the matter. Evolution sure got that one right.

Maybe I am reading it wrong so you can correct me if I am wrong. Are you saying that your are proud about being gay or gay's should be proud of their behavior. I still can't understand why a man can say that he is proud that he gets his sexual gratification by placing his penis into the anus of another man.

If a person gets a big job promotion or some type of special achievement I can agree that there is reason for a sense of pride but pride over engaging in behavior that throws all common sense out the door is a little bizarre to me.

Hate that I can't stay around for the argument but sleep calls. Doesn't seem like I am getting anywhere with it anyway.

197 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:30:08pm

re: #196 Hang a Ralph


I believe that scientifically women match up with men and women match up with men sexually. The reproductive organs are just designed that way.

So, I guess all anal sex and all oral sex is also against nature.

BTW, have you any complaints about our appendixes and our tonsils being removed? I guess they were just 'designed' to be useless and to get inflamed and kill people every so often.

198 Hang a Ralph  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:30:58pm

re: #195 Vambo

Pre or post Christianity had not effect on basic human anatomy and man' s innate sense of reproducing the species. Still is common sense.

199 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:34:47pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Oh. That was from "selected mammals" from a larger list. So there's more.

The first converation I ever had here with our once beloved Zombie was about exactly this: some crap 'essay' she posted here about whoring for 'input' on.
It was all about the unnaturalness of homosexuality.

I posted a quote from something I was reading and provided footnotes about the incidences of homosexuality in animals.

Poor zombie didn't take it very well. Got very nasty about it, too.
It was very clear the undead one didn't want any genuine input or scientific material, or indeed anything that interfered with his homophobic agenda.

200 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:35:30pm

re: #198 Hang a Ralph

So, sex is only for reproduction?

I bet you're a fun date.

201 Hang a Ralph  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:36:13pm

re: #197 iceweasel

I would say that is incorrect behavior also. Anal sex period is just strange to me. Defies the natural uses of the organ.

As far as normal operations to remove things that are causing problems I have no problem with that. Modern medicine can do some wonderful things these days and I am all for it. Had my tonsils out myself. I don't quite understand what bringing something like this into the subject has anything to do with it.

Night All! Good conversation and I appreciate the input.

No, sex is for pleasure also and I must say that it is pleasureful.

202 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:42:00pm

re: #201 Hang a Ralph

I would say that is incorrect behavior also. Anal sex period is just strange to me.

Good for you. So why are you so invested in controlling what others find pleasurable, and dictating what is 'normal' for them?

If you don't like it, fine. Why insist others are 'abnormal'? Why so obsessed with insisting your personal preferences must be the 'normal' ones, and with demanding that everyone follow yours?

203 Gus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:43:21pm

re: #199 iceweasel

The first converation I ever had here with our once beloved Zombie was about exactly this: some crap 'essay' she posted here about whoring for 'input' on.
It was all about the unnaturalness of homosexuality.

I posted a quote from something I was reading and provided footnotes about the incidences of homosexuality in animals.

Poor zombie didn't take it very well. Got very nasty about it, too.
It was very clear the undead one didn't want any genuine input or scientific material, or indeed anything that interfered with his homophobic agenda.

Zombie only peddles hype. That was clear to me even when I had some interest. According to Zombie what she sees in the Bay Area is representative of the whole world. That was always based on some protest or some extreme event. I don't think she's actually ever ventured outside of the Bay Area in her entire life.

Added to that she would always refer to outdated and controversial studies many of which have been replaced or repudiated. She even tried to create a generalization of the gay community based on one statue built in of all places, Berkeley. It was tiring to say the least and very pseudo intellectualized. Didn't seem like a happy person at all.

Fitting enough I think she went over to write some stupid little pieces for either Pajamas Media or for Breitbart. It fits their meme and current Teabagger rage. I was for the war on terror and low taxes but never was a raging homophobic idiot like the rest of that crowd.

204 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:49:12pm

re: #203 Gus 802

Zombie only peddles hype. That was clear to me even when I had some interest. According to Zombie what she sees in the Bay Area is representative of the whole world. That was always based on some protest or some extreme event. I don't think she's actually ever ventured outside of the Bay Area in her entire life..

Zombie was always a liar, and he cited outdated studies on animal homosexuality and got pissed when I, politely, provided the real info.

Zombie was also a liar as a a photographer, which I knew before I joined here. I attended one of the antiwar protests Zombie did a photo essay on in the Bay area. and zombie deliberately chose only the photos with wackos, and none of the ones showing the masses of ordinary people who turned out. Like me.

Zombie was outed a while ago. I don't approve of outing, but I did laugh when he was exposed.

205 Gus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:51:37pm

re: #201 Hang a Ralph

I would say that is incorrect behavior also. Anal sex period is just strange to me. Defies the natural uses of the organ.

As far as normal operations to remove things that are causing problems I have no problem with that. Modern medicine can do some wonderful things these days and I am all for it. Had my tonsils out myself. I don't quite understand what bringing something like this into the subject has anything to do with it.

Night All! Good conversation and I appreciate the input.

No, sex is for pleasure also and I must say that it is pleasureful.

First off. While we are on the topic of anal sex of which you seem to have an obsession with, in the context of gays it should be noted that lesbians rarely engage in such a practice. Secondly, the "inventor" of sodomy or anal sex was not by homosexual men but heterosexual men who engaged in the act for sexual gratification while at the same time being able to keep the family size down and release his sexual urge with his partner (a female). It is practiced by gay men for obvious reasons. Also, if you happen to look at porn you may notice that sodomy is very popular with straight men.

206 The Left  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:53:36pm

re: #205 Gus 802

Also, if you happen to look at porn you may notice that sodomy is very popular with straight men.

That's putting it mildly!
Anal was to porn in the 80's what oral was in the 70's. Linda Lovelace, etc.

207 Gus  Sat, Feb 6, 2010 11:54:56pm

re: #204 iceweasel

Zombie was always a liar, and he cited outdated studies on animal homosexuality and got pissed when I, politely, provided the real info.

Zombie was also a liar as a a photographer, which I knew before I joined here. I attended one of the antiwar protests Zombie did a photo essay on in the Bay area. and zombie deliberately chose only the photos with wackos, and none of the ones showing the masses of ordinary people who turned out. Like me.

Zombie was outed a while ago. I don't approve of outing, but I did laugh when he was exposed.

Good points. I've been to a couple of Bay Area protests. It was rather mild and normal for the most part. There were the usual outcasts and anarchists.

Zombie was never outed as far as I could tell. Just came out that he was a she is all. Don't really care who she really is. Just know that she distorts reality and that fits in with the wingnut crowd.

208 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:01:06am

re: #207 Gus 802

Good points. I've been to a couple of Bay Area protests. It was rather mild and normal for the most part. There were the usual outcasts and anarchists.

Zombie was never outed as far as I could tell. Just came out that he was a she is all. Don't really care who she really is. Just know that she distorts reality and that fits in with the wingnut crowd.

Zombie is a prime disseminator of wingnut shit. And no one would ever have even known about zombie but for CJ, and that didn't stop zombie sticking a knife in his back.

LGF hasn't even been a target on the left for years now-- EXCEPT for zombie. Like the DNC coverage, which CJ helped fund out of his own pocket. Zombie's coverage was ridiculous and mocked. And zombie STILL trashed CJ.

Yeah, someone outed Zed. That blog is deleted, but you can still find one part of it in google cache. Zed's a man, baby. I use the term loosely.
Zombie did major harm to LGF and LGF's rep. I couldn't even get people to read here while it was still about, and even now the only two things lots of people in the leftysphere know about LGF are: 1: that place where the genocidal fuck Iron Mitten posted and 2) Zombie.
That's slowly changing.

209 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:01:53am

re: #206 iceweasel

That's putting it mildly!
Anal was to porn in the 80's what oral was in the 70's. Linda Lovelace, etc.

Big time. And it's still very popular. I won't mention Japanese and German practices.

I find it odd that someone would come in here trying to claim that it is against evolution or natural progression when in fact it is. Sex acts are clearly not for procreation purposes alone. So if one were to say that sodomy does not fit the need to promote the species then one could say that masturbation also doesn't fit the requirement for procreation and is thus immoral.

So if all sex acts must have the final goal of impregnation then all sex acts outside of that realm are wrong. Reality says otherwise even for straight men.

210 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:03:59am

re: #208 iceweasel

Zombie is a prime disseminator of wingnut shit. And no one would ever have even known about zombie but for CJ, and that didn't stop zombie sticking a knife in his back.

LGF hasn't even been a target on the left for years now-- EXCEPT for zombie. Like the DNC coverage, which CJ helped fund out of his own pocket. Zombie's coverage was ridiculous and mocked. And zombie STILL trashed CJ.

Yeah, someone outed Zed. That blog is deleted, but you can still find one part of it in google cache. Zed's a man, baby. I use the term loosely.
Zombie did major harm to LGF and LGF's rep. I couldn't even get people to read here while it was still about, and even now the only two things lots of people in the leftysphere know about LGF are: 1: that place where the genocidal fuck Iron Mitten posted and 2) Zombie.
That's slowly changing.

Seriously? Damn, that's fucked up. So he was a man posing as a woman that turned out to be a man?

211 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:06:06am

re: #209 Gus 802


So if all sex acts must have the final goal of impregnation then all sex acts outside of that realm are wrong. Reality says otherwise even for straight men.

And straight women!

Seriously, it's like Handmaid's Tale theocratic sex-hating bullshit to claim sex is about impregnation.

It also denies the reality of human (and social animal) behaviour. Sex is about intimacy and bonding, as well as pure pleasure, and the theocratic fuckwits who deny those aspects of it hate not only sex but humans.

212 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:07:11am

re: #210 Gus 802

Seriously? Damn, that's fucked up. So he was a man posing as a woman that turned out to be a man?

Yep. Man, baby.
A very unattractive one.

213 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:07:44am

re: #212 iceweasel

Yep. Man, baby.
A very unattractive one.

Let me guess. He looks like Comic Book Guy.

214 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:09:06am

re: #213 Gus 802

Let me guess. He looks like Comic Book Guy.

Yep. But uglier. Seriously.
Email me and Jimmah via twitter if you want, I could give you the goods.

215 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:09:39am

re: #211 iceweasel

And straight women!

Seriously, it's like Handmaid's Tale theocratic sex-hating bullshit to claim sex is about impregnation.

It also denies the reality of human (and social animal) behaviour. Sex is about intimacy and bonding, as well as pure pleasure, and the theocratic fuckwits who deny those aspects of it hate not only sex but humans.

I've read crap like Hang a Ralph's all the time at Topix. It was the same old line of BS that if sex wasn't for procreation it was wrong. I never did get to ask them how they felt about sport fucking.

216 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:12:01am

re: #215 Gus 802

I've read crap like Hang a Ralph's all the time at Topix. It was the same old line of BS that if sex wasn't for procreation it was wrong. I never did get to ask them how they felt about sport fucking.

Oh yes. The term they apply to the women who happen to have sex with them (and for whom they then feel contempt)--- or to women who fuck someone who isn't them.

217 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:13:18am

re: #214 iceweasel

Yep. But uglier. Seriously.
Email me and Jimmah via twitter if you want, I could give you the goods.

Just sent something through Twitter. ;)

218 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:14:39am

re: #217 Gus 802

Just sent something through Twitter. ;)

Cool! Will check--

BTW, Zombie also trolled a few women columnists at SFGate. The sex columnists, that is. Under a different name. :)

219 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:14:40am

re: #216 iceweasel

Oh yes. The term they apply to the women who happen to have sex with them (and for whom they then feel contempt)--- or to women who fuck someone who isn't them.

Yep. They'll do that and then come on pretending to be holier than thou. They'll even do it while being married or engaged.

220 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:16:09am

It's nic is "Hang A Ralph", for crying out loud.

I'm betting "so deep in the closet it's finding x-mas presents from the future", or "secret panel in the closet hiding BDSM equipment that would make The Behemoth blush".

221 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:16:45am

re: #218 iceweasel

Cool! Will check--

BTW, Zombie also trolled a few women columnists at SFGate. The sex columnists, that is. Under a different name. :)

That's pretty creepy. Should have known of course. Usually, people that protest the most about various sexuality issues have some rather large personal sex issues themselves. Sometimes more so than the average person.

222 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:19:59am

re: #220 Slumbering Behemoth

It's nic is "Hang A Ralph", for crying out loud.

I'm betting "so deep in the closet it's finding x-mas presents from the future", or "secret panel in the closet hiding BDSM equipment that would make The Behemoth blush".

Scratch a family values man, find a pony-boy.

/

223 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:20:35am

re: #221 Gus 802

That's pretty creepy. Should have known of course. Usually, people that protest the most about various sexuality issues have some rather large personal sex issues themselves. Sometimes more so than the average person.

Yes. This wasn't some super sleuthing on my part. Zombie gave the name he used there over here, bragging about it.
A quick search on that user name turned up quite a few interesting other comments about female sexuality.

224 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:23:37am

re: #223 iceweasel

Yes. This wasn't some super sleuthing on my part. Zombie gave the name he used there over here, bragging about it.
A quick search on that user name turned up quite a few interesting other comments about female sexuality.

It's almost like Silence of the Lambs. No surprise I guess. A lot of these wingnuts have sexuality issues. Take a look at how Sarah Palin plays her audience with her sexuality and how they take it all in. Even to the point of admitting their likeness for her is based on her sex appeal. Even though at the same time they never discuss sex outside of that realm. Weird.

225 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:29:02am

re: #222 Gus 802

I am all for folks who favor strong family values. Within their own family. Within reason.

Where the price of admission gets too steep for me is when they want to dictate their personal "family" values upon society as a whole.

Dictate. As in "dictator".

226 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:30:08am

re: #222 Gus 802

Scratch a family values man, find a pony-boy.

/

HA.

Yes, they're always on the fast track to Double Wetsuits, Dildo, and Stout Overhead Beamville.

Fundies in Their Undies.

Alabama minister, Liberty University grad, employee of Falwell.

227 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:31:16am

re: #226 iceweasel

I AM NOT A FUNDIE, DAMNIT!
/

228 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:36:58am

re: #226 iceweasel

HA.

Yes, they're always on the fast track to Double Wetsuits, Dildo, and Stout Overhead Beamville.

Fundies in Their Undies.

Alabama minister, Liberty University grad, employee of Falwell.

Two wetsuits and a dildo? Yeah, no foul play sounds about right.

I don't want to make light of his death but yeah, there are a lot of people like him even in churches. The id is a powerful thing.

229 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:40:34am

re: #226 iceweasel

From The Smoking Gun:

Dead Reverend's Rubber Fetish

Autopsy: Pastor found in wet suits after autoerotic mishap

OCTOBER 8--An Alabama minister who died in June of "accidental mechanical asphyxia" was found hogtied and wearing two complete wet suits, including a face mask, diving gloves and slippers, rubberized underwear, and a head mask, according to an autopsy report. Investigators determined that Rev. Gary Aldridge's death was not caused by foul play and that the 51-year-old pastor of Montgomery's Thorington Road Baptist Church was alone in his home at the time he died (while apparently in the midst of some autoerotic undertaking).

While the Montgomery Advertiser, which first obtained the autopsy records, reported on Aldridge's two wet suits, the family newspaper chose not to mention what police discovered inside the minister's rubber briefs. Aldridge served as the church's pastor for 16 years. Immediately following his death, church officials issued a press release asking community members to "please refrain from speculation" about what led to Aldridge's demise, adding that, "we will begin the healing process under the strong arm of our Savior, Jesus Christ."

230 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:40:49am

re: #228 Gus 802

Two wetsuits and a dildo? Yeah, no foul play sounds about right.

I don't want to make light of his death but yeah, there are a lot of people like him even in churches. The id is a powerful thing.

To be honest what upsets me most about it is imagining his wife and what it was like for her finding him and finding out about all this.

Whatever his kink was, she probably (if she loved him) would have been more than happy to join in. I would never have been able to get over that-- the idea that he'd shut me out of something apparently so central to his pleasure.

I don't mind mocking fundies and wingnuts, esp with sexual and homophobic issues, but this specific case really bothers me.

Also- putting on TWO wetsuits? That's determination./

231 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:47:21am

re: #230 iceweasel

To be honest what upsets me most about it is imagining his wife and what it was like for her finding him and finding out about all this.

Whatever his kink was, she probably (if she loved him) would have been more than happy to join in. I would never have been able to get over that-- the idea that he'd shut me out of something apparently so central to his pleasure.

I don't mind mocking fundies and wingnuts, esp with sexual and homophobic issues, but this specific case really bothers me.

Also- putting on TWO wetsuits? That's determination./

My guess is that if he was open about this and had a safety maybe he would be alive today.

232 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:50:43am

re: #229 Gus 802

From The Smoking Gun:

Dead Reverend's Rubber Fetish

Yep. When the census worker died I was pretty certain it was an autoerotic mishap and took a lot of shit here for that--
but the circumstances all suggested he had hung himself, as well as other details (like his clothes being folded neatly and in the back of his truck. Murderers don't do that, nor does a victim ordered to disrobe at gunpoint or similar).

The more serious point here is that people who believe sex is 'dirty' often wind up only finding pleasure in sex that is as dirty as they can make it-- Ted Haggard, etc.

233 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:53:54am

re: #231 Gus 802

My guess is that if he was open about this and had a safety maybe he would be alive today.

Exactly. He probably did have some kind of safety out, because people into that always do, but they can fail.

That's why if I'd been his wife I would be furious. She'd have bought the freakin' wetsuit for him if he wanted and checked on him, for fuck's sake. If she loved him and she was cool. You know?

234 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:57:50am

re: #233 iceweasel

Exactly. He probably did have some kind of safety out, because people into that always do, but they can fail.

That's why if I'd been his wife I would be furious. She'd have bought the freakin' wetsuit for him if he wanted and checked on him, for fuck's sake. If she loved him and she was cool. You know?

In a perfect world perhaps. But instead it was probably all about shame. Most everyone kicking the dirt around him. He was probably ashamed of himself.

235 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:58:08am

re: #233 iceweasel

A wetsuit - now that's some underwear bsmonkey might approve of.

236 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 12:59:13am

re: #235 Jimmah

A wetsuit - now that's some underwear bsmonkey might approve of.

HA!
You have to fill Gus in on that. The whorishness of modern underwear, etc.

237 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:01:09am

re: #236 iceweasel

HA!
You have to fill Gus in on that. The whorishness of modern underwear, etc.

You mean like sitting down for a Q & A and reading your palm while wearing baby dolls and rubbing you knees? Like um, Sarah Palin?

238 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:04:18am

re: #234 Gus 802

In a perfect world perhaps. But instead it was probably all about shame. Most everyone kicking the dirt around him. He was probably ashamed of himself.

I'm sure he was. It makes me really sad.
He probably also deliberately married a women who he felt would reinforce that shame. I think that happens a lot.
Who knows. But I think it's pretty common in fundie circles for men to marry women who they think are 'pure', and for those women to either reinforce their feelings of shame about sex-- or leave him because he's disgusted with their sexuality.

Small anecdotal base here, but the most fucked up relationship I know involves a guy who is a fundie and cheating, and in his spare time he's very into beastiality porn.

239 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:05:11am

Gus, mullah buzzsaw was bitching on 2.0 the other day about the near impossibility of finding 'non whorish' underwear for women. He also found male underwear to be disgustingly wanton in its licentious failure to cover enough thigh etc. All part of the downfall of modern society. Comedy gold!

240 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:05:21am

re: #237 Gus 802

You mean like sitting down for a Q & A and reading your palm while wearing baby dolls and rubbing you knees? Like um, Sarah Palin?

If the woman in question can read, it's not fundie porn!
//
(kinda)

241 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:06:04am

re: #240 iceweasel

If the woman in question can read, it's not fundie porn!
//
(kinda)

Sure it was. Sarah Palin is soft porn for right wingers.

242 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:07:30am

re: #239 Jimmah

Gus, mullah buzzsaw was bitching on 2.0 the other day about the near impossibility of finding 'non whorish' underwear for women. He also found male underwear to be disgustingly wanton in its licentious failure to cover enough thigh etc. All part of the downfall of modern society. Comedy gold!

That was Buzz? lol What a dork. I never found my own thighs... sexy.

243 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:09:43am

re: #242 Gus 802

That was Buzz? lol What a dork. I never found my own thighs... sexy.

Remember that this is flesh exposed beneath outergarments that he's talking about. It's making a whore of yourself to anyone endowed with the ability to see through that layer of clothing.

244 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:10:37am

re: #241 Gus 802

Sure it was. Sarah Palin is soft porn for right wingers.

The leftie blogs sometimes call her Lady Starburst for that reason, in tribute to Rich Lowry at NRO, talking about her acceptance speech:

I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it.

El Oh El.

245 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:12:21am

Yes, Rich. She was winking at you, honey. And the stripper really is smiling at just you, too. You're not like the others, you're special.

246 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:14:34am

re: #232 iceweasel

The more serious point here is that people who believe sex is 'dirty' often wind up only finding pleasure in sex that is as dirty as they can make it-- Ted Haggard, etc.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Careful with that broad tar brush there. I like dirty sex, the dirty the better, but I am no Haggard, and I don't go around labeling all sex as "dirty".

/'kay, done making light of this serious issue, like an a-hole. Apologize much.

247 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:14:59am

re: #244 iceweasel

re: #243 Jimmah

That's just too funny.

Anyway, I need to get some sleep and hit the futon.

Have a good one Iceweasel and Jimmah. Cheers!

248 Gus  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:16:20am

Latur!

249 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:16:41am

re: #246 Slumbering Behemoth

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Careful with that broad tar brush there. I like dirty sex, the dirty the better, but I am no Haggard, and I don't go around labeling all sex as "dirty".

/'kay, done making light of this serious issue, like an a-hole. Apologize much.

Hey, it's only dirty when you're doing it right!
Too many on the right think it's dirty at all. ;)

250 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:18:37am

re: #242 Gus 802

It is almost impossible to find plain, ordinary, comfortable underwear any more.

That mullah buzzsaw post in full:

It may be possible to find plain men’s cotton briefs which are not designed to put the package on parade, but plain all-cotton boxers which are not low-cut, or side-slit, and which have a cotton-covered waistband, require a search almost akin to the Holy Grail.

I see what my girlfriend goes through in order to find plain undergarments which are, again, all cotton, and not designed with whorishness uppermost in mind.

Don’t get me wrong; there’s no reason why people can’t have all the silly “sexiness” they want. I’m just annoyed that the other option is virtually unobtainable.

LOL

251 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:20:07am

re: #239 Jimmah

Cat meat!

252 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:21:34am

re: #250 Jimmah

It is almost impossible to find plain, ordinary, comfortable underwear any more.

That mullah buzzsaw post in full:

LOL

heeheehee...

Don’t get me wrong; there’s no reason why people can’t have all the silly “sexiness” they want. I’m just annoyed that the other option is virtually unobtainable.

Yes, the other option of humorless, joyless, asexuality. Woe, woe!

253 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:26:11am

re: #252 iceweasel

Yes, the other option of humorless, joyless, asexuality. Woe, woe!

I am absolutely sure that a stout defence of the business of being ashamed of one's genitals will issue from that source before long, if it hasn't already done so before.

It's worth noting as well that the comment posted above was the launchpad for a tirade about the Sodom and Gomorrah like downfall of modern society from the 60's onwards.

254 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:26:53am

re: #250 Jimmah

Bullshit! Utter bullshit. I have several pairs of large, goofy, polka-dot boxers with cotton covered waist bands, which are neither low cut nor side slit.

They're not hard to find, certainly not anywhere near on the "findability meter" as the Holy Grail.

I got mine at Target. And not in the distant, sacred past either.

255 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:30:42am

re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth

Bullshit! Utter bullshit. I have several pairs of large, goofy, polka-dot boxers with cotton covered waist bands, which are neither low cut nor side slit.

They're not hard to find, certainly not anywhere near on the "findability meter" as the Holy Grail.

I got mine at Target. And not in the distant, sacred past either.

Yep - it's total bullshit. And the stuff about women's underwear was so off base one has to question whether this person has ever really had a long term relationship with a woman at all. Seriously.

256 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:33:11am

re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth

Bullshit! Utter bullshit. I have several pairs of large, goofy, polka-dot boxers with cotton covered waist bands, which are neither low cut nor side slit.

They're not hard to find, certainly not anywhere near on the "findability meter" as the Holy Grail.

I got mine at Target. And not in the distant, sacred past either.

Oh much was revealed about Mullah Buzzsaw in that thread. Yes.

The comment quoted was notable in that it revealed that poor bs monkey hasn't had intimacy with any woman at all for quite some time, if ever.
And yes, it's not at all difficult to find men's underwear that would meet his 'standards', but he did say:

men’s cotton briefs which are not designed to put the package on parade

I think Mullah Buzzsaw sews up the flies in his boxers.

257 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:33:18am

re: #255 Jimmah

It's all for show. Bogus stories for theocon bona fides in a meaningless forum.

258 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:37:59am

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

It's all for show. Bogus stories for theocon bona fides in a meaningless forum.

Yep - a little grief hole where wingnuts can talk utter shite all day and never, ever be handed their ass. Not like that nasty LGF where people can be bullied with facts and logic. Why, even 'long time lizards' are expected to make sense occasionally - where's the respect?

259 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:38:38am

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

It's all for show. Bogus stories for theocon bona fides in a meaningless forum.

Of course.
But seriously, poor bs monkey felt the need to pretend he has a girlfriend in that comment, in order to bolster his ridiculous claim that women can't find cotton underwear to buy.

It's almost enough to make me pity him, if not for his general misogyny, sex-phobic ranting, and calling me the c word every other day or so.
Oh, 'brilliant' Bs monkey. Yes. Such a treasure.

260 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:42:34am

re: #259 iceweasel

Of course.
But seriously, poor bs monkey felt the need to pretend he has a girlfriend in that comment, in order to bolster his ridiculous claim that women can't find cotton underwear to buy.

It's almost enough to make me pity him, if not for his general misogyny, sex-phobic ranting, and calling me the c word every other day or so.
Oh, 'brilliant' Bs monkey. Yes. Such a treasure.

Somehow one feels that bsm is not the girlfriend having type. He'd need to find one with a non-whorish vagina, for starters.

261 The Left  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:46:28am

re: #260 Jimmah

Somehow one feels that bsm is not the girlfriend having type. He'd need to find one with a non-whorish vagina, for starters.

All vaginas are whorish by fact of existing, just as all women are whorish by fact of existing. The fact that men want to fuck them, and are denied access on demand, proves that women are temptresses and Vagina-Americans are sent from the devil to to tempt men. By existing.

262 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 2:32:21am

re: #261 iceweasel


All vaginas are whorish by fact of existing

THANK GAWD!

263 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 7:26:41am

re: #196 Hang a Ralph

I don't believe that you are right about women excreting urine out of their vagina. I believe it is excreted out of the urethra. It is external to the vagina. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I won't be offended.

I believe that scientifically women match up with men and women match up with men sexually. The reproductive organs are just designed that way. Trust me, I had no choice in the matter. Evolution sure got that one right.

Maybe I am reading it wrong so you can correct me if I am wrong. Are you saying that your are proud about being gay or gay's should be proud of their behavior. I still can't understand why a man can say that he is proud that he gets his sexual gratification by placing his penis into the anus of another man.

If a person gets a big job promotion or some type of special achievement I can agree that there is reason for a sense of pride but pride over engaging in behavior that throws all common sense out the door is a little bizarre to me.

Hate that I can't stay around for the argument but sleep calls. Doesn't seem like I am getting anywhere with it anyway.


So Quagmire was right, women have four holes in bodies?

Either way, I think that being gay is not something people should be ashamed of, can you agree with me on that?

264 Vambo  Sun, Feb 7, 2010 10:14:22am

re: #198 Hang a Ralph

Pre or post Christianity had not effect on basic human anatomy and man' s innate sense of reproducing the species. Still is common sense.

The idea that sex is for reproduction only, never recreational pleasure, started with Christianity.

265 sffilk  Mon, Feb 8, 2010 6:57:19am

re: #12 soap_man

When I was in high school, I knew a kid who grew up in Bosnia. Although he did everything with his left hand, he wrote with his right. He explained that the teachers in Bosnia said being left-handed was "immoral" and the "Devil's hand". Anyone who was left-handed had their hand tied behind their back so they were forced to learn how to write right-handed. We all laughed at the silliness of that, as if he chose to be left-handed then could simply "choose" to be right-handed.

Maybe someday everybody will laugh at the fact that people think straight/gay is a choice, like those foolish teachers thought about handedness. It's not a decision made, but something one is born with.


This didn't happen just in Bosnia. My parents told me that this happened here in the U.S. when they were in school, in the late 1930's/early 1940's.

266 sffilk  Mon, Feb 8, 2010 7:06:09am

re: #130 Decatur Deb

While I was in, the army transitioned from M14 to M16 rifles. The M14 could only be fired right handed, M16 is optional with a deflector.

When I was at Officer Candidate School (summer 1979), we had a couple of sessions in the firing range to see if we could shoot and perhaps qualify for the marksmanship medal. I was the only left-handed person in my company. I had to shoot after everyone else was done because the gunners mates didn't know how to deal with someone who did absolutely nothing right-handed. They assumed everyone was.

Maybe it was them; maybe it was me, but I was a lousy shot. I still can't shoot a gun to this day.

267 sffilk  Mon, Feb 8, 2010 7:07:31am

re: #153 Decatur Deb

If you dropped the consumer electronics power on today's kids, they would wander the fields with dazed expressions.

I don't think it would be just the kids with dazed expressions...


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