1 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Feb 9, 2010 6:59:14pm |
Yeah! This same worm has been buying chocolate chocolate muffins at Costco and making me eat them.
Death to worms!
3 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:00:14pm |
I think this worm may have been running riot on LGF user’s computers recently as well ;-)
6 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:01:34pm |
Unfortunately not satire:Fox News Contributor Running For Congress
7 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:01:58pm |
re: #3 Jimmah
I think this worm may have been running riot on LGF user’s computers recently as well ;-)
Yours’ and mine especially.
8 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:02:16pm |
Nobody likes me, everybody hates me,
I think I’ll go eat worms!
Big fat juicy ones,
Eensie weensy squeensy ones,
See how they wiggle and squirm!
Down goes the first one, down goes the second one,
Oh how they wiggle and squirm!
Up comes the first one, up comes the second one,
Oh how they wiggle and squirm!
I bite off the heads, and suck out the juice,
And throw the skins away!
Nobody knows how fat I grow,
On worms three times a day!
Nobody likes me, everybody hates me,
I think I’ll go eat worms!
Big fat juicy ones,
Eensie weensy squeensy ones,
See how they wiggle and squirm!
9 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:04:08pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Unfortunately not satire:Fox News Contributor Running For Congress
From where I live, that’s not surprising. We actually have a former news anchor as our vice president.
10 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:05:27pm |
11 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:06:13pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Unfortunately not satire:Fox News Contributor Running For Congress
I actually think its a great idea. A black woman might well be able to win that seat. Sh’es be a great spokesperson to counter Obama with and she’d help defuse the “Racist!” charge the Donks sometimes fling. What’s not to like?
12 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:06:52pm |
re: #8 Mad Al-Jaffee
My mom used to sing that to me lol
I always liked Ooey Gooey. He was a worm. A mighty worm was he. He sat upon the railroad track. The train he did not see.
Ooeyyyy Gooeyyy
13 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:08:31pm |
re: #12 marjoriemoon
Ha! Haven’t thought of that in years!
15 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:11:35pm |
What becomes of the broken hearted?
I had a festival gig a couple of years ago where Ms. Osborne was also playing. Didn’t get to meet her, but maybe next time/
16 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:11:41pm |
re: #11 Dark_Falcon
What’s not to like?
I just can’t take anything or anyone from Fox seriously. I don’t know how those people live with themselves.
17 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:12:53pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
I just can’t take anything or anyone from Fox seriously. I don’t know how those people live with themselves.
Besides being on Fox, what do we know of her?
18 | The Curmudgeon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:13:38pm |
I’ve been infected. It seizes control of my computer and posts favorable things about Sarah Palin.
19 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:13:59pm |
re: #15 Mad Al-Jaffee
That woman can wail! I had her album (cd, but I still call ‘em albums)…
20 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:16:35pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
I just can’t take anything or anyone from Fox seriously. I don’t know how those people live with themselves.
It’s simple: They produce the things their customers want. Its fairly easy if you can keep your conscience at bay. I’ve suppressed my misgivings when work demanded it. Quite often, Killgore, a paycheck looks better than the truth. With such bricks is the road to Hell paved.
21 | TampaKnight Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:18:22pm |
Yea, no one from Fox should dare fun for office- how can they be taken seriously?
Next we’ll have dumb ideas like movie stars running for President…..
Oh, wait.
22 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:18:29pm |
I’m gonna do a shot of Nyquil and lay my ass out!
G’night knuckleheads.
23 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:18:39pm |
re: #11 Dark_Falcon
I actually think its a great idea. A black woman might well be able to win that seat. Sh’es be a great spokesperson to counter Obama with and she’d help defuse the “Racist!” charge the Donks sometimes fling. What’s not to like?
Wasn’t that the plan behind making Micheal Steele head of the RNC?
How did that work out for you?
24 | TampaKnight Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:19:54pm |
re: #23 jamesfirecat
Wasn’t that the plan behind making Micheal Steele head of the RNC?
How did that work out for you?
So you advocate anyone of color within the Republican party to sit down and shut up?
26 | brookly red Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:21:07pm |
re: #24 TampaKnight
So you advocate anyone of color within the Republican party to sit down and shut up?
no he is just shooing in the bushes… sad actually.
27 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:21:16pm |
re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That woman can wail! I had her album (cd, but I still call ‘em albums)…
She can sing well, but she’s not a Supreme:
28 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:21:17pm |
So, THAT’S where those Japanese music CD’s came from!
I’ve been hit by a worm!
29 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:22:52pm |
re: #24 TampaKnight
So you advocate anyone of color within the Republican party to sit down and shut up?
No, I’m saying that just because someone is black and conservative doesn’t mean they can serve as a “counter Obama”.
I would like to suggests that idiots with all levels of melanomen in all parties should sit down and shut up.
30 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:23:02pm |
re: #23 jamesfirecat
Wasn’t that the plan behind making Micheal Steele head of the RNC?
How did that work out for you?
Steele has his own explanation for why so many are criticial of him. Naturally, it doesn’t involve admitting that he’s often a fool:
Michael Steele Suggests Criticism Of His Tenure Motivated By Racism
Much more at link.
31 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:23:17pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
I just can’t take anything or anyone from Fox seriously. I don’t know how those people live with themselves.
And those assholes at CNN too.
Jack Cafferty Rips Obama on Failed Openness Pledge: ‘Just Another Lie Told for Political Expediency’
32 | Ojoe Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:23:44pm |
OT
Here is some “fine” news from one of the trade journals that I get (US Glass):
Vol 45 No. 1, Jan. 2010
“Meanwhile, this month the American Institute of Architects released its semi-annual Consensus Construction Forecast, which reported that nonresidential construction spending is expected to decrease by 13.4 percent in 2010.”
One suspects that the politicians and the media are lying about “the beginnings of recovery.”
And I see a political bloodbath in November, and a 1-term president.
33 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:23:49pm |
If the worm is getting on Ebay bidding on Dukes of Hazzard action figures, that means there will be less available for me. Back in a minute, must..uh…go read an improving book…yea…
34 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:23:52pm |
re: #24 TampaKnight
So you advocate anyone of color within the Republican party to sit down and shut up?
So you advocate anyone of color within the Republican party to sit down and shut up?
I think that is it.
35 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:24:35pm |
re: #34 Rightwingconspirator
So you advocate anyone
of colorwithin the Republican party to sit down and shut up?I think that is it.
Or at least that seems to be the sentiment of many critics of the Republicans.
36 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:24:45pm |
re: #34 Rightwingconspirator
So you advocate anyone
of colorwithin the Republican party to sit down and shut up?I think that is it.
Well, Steele should probably shut up. It’s not as if all the criticism of him is coming from the other party, for one.
37 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:25:21pm |
re: #36 iceweasel
Well, Steele should probably shut up. It’s not as if all the criticism of him is coming from the other party, for one.
I think Steele should get his own radio show, but that may just be me.
38 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:26:10pm |
re: #29 jamesfirecat
No, I’m saying that just because someone is black and conservative doesn’t mean they can serve as a “counter Obama”.
I would like to suggests that idiots with all levels of melanomen in all parties should sit down and shut up.
The good news is that Angela McGlowan is not an idiot. She’s smart and aggressive and I think she’ll knock the Donk she faces back on his heels.
39 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:26:18pm |
re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist
I think Steele should get his own radio show, but that may just be me.
He’d probably be pretty good at that, honestly.
40 | brookly red Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:26:20pm |
re: #34 Rightwingconspirator
So you advocate anyone
of colorwithin the Republican party to sit down and shut up?I think that is it.
no, no not sit down and shut up the new phrase is “be bi-partisan” same difference but sounds so much better.
41 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:26:39pm |
re: #36 iceweasel
Hey Dean takes plenty of hits from within and without. As does Pelosi and Reid.
42 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:27:02pm |
re: #28 Floral Giraffe
So, THAT’S where those Japanese music CD’s came from!
I’ve been hit by a worm!
And I’m suddenly finding all this strange music in my youtube favourites folder!
43 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:27:10pm |
re: #35 Rightwingconspirator
Or at least that seems to be the sentiment of many critics of the Republicans.
Yes. I cannot recall ever hearing so many complaints about having a supermajority.
It was too short! R’s were mean and we didn’t get anything done!
blah blah blah.
R’s should just die off already.
44 | TampaKnight Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:28:04pm |
I’ve just noticed lately that when the Republicans nominate or run a black person, it gets the “token” charge.
Yet when the Democrats run black people for office, it’s supposedly their grand commitment to diversity.
My good friend is a black conservative man and rarely gets to say so without liberals jumping down his throat for being (gasp) a conservative.
45 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:28:17pm |
re: #41 Rightwingconspirator
Hey Dean takes plenty of hits from within and without. As does Pelosi and Reid.
Sure. And lots of that is justified too. Esp Reid imo.
Anyway, even other Republicans think Steele hasn’t been a great leader. I think he was a bad pick, personally.
46 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:28:39pm |
re: #40 brookly red
Ever wonder what the difference between bi partisan and bi sexual is?
A bi sexual actually likes both genders.
47 | Ojoe Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:29:28pm |
re: #43 Racer X
Down with both political parties.
Pffiibbittth.™
Try the Modern Whig Party instead.
BBL
48 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:29:36pm |
re: #25 MandyManners
I’d vote for her. She’s smart and assertive.
Fox News… Scary music… oooohhh fox news!
49 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:29:54pm |
re: #36 iceweasel
Well, Steele should probably shut up. It’s not as if all the criticism of him is coming from the other party, for one.
Steele should resign or be fired…he’s a primary enabler…of course his bosses are the very people that are ruining the GOP!
50 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:30:47pm |
re: #45 iceweasel
Agreed. But black Republicans and the Log Cabins get a special kind of criticism, as if each is required to be Democrats or liberals. WRONG- Log Cabins, and black Republicans have as much legitimacy as Dixiecrats. Big tent and all.
51 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:30:57pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
The good news is that Angela McGlowan is not an idiot. She’s smart and aggressive and I think she’ll knock the Donk she faces back on his heels.
Good for her, both parties need more smart people in congress.
52 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:31:06pm |
re: #49 albusteve
Steele should resign or be fired…he’s a primary enabler…of course his bosses are the very people that are ruining the GOP!
Hey Steve— how’s it going?
I don’t know who else the GOP could have picked, but I think Steele has caused more harm to the GOP than good.
53 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:31:19pm |
re: #42 Jimmah
And I’m suddenly finding all this strange music in my youtube favourites folder!
[Video]
I though you mostly created the strange videos:
;)
54 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:31:23pm |
re: #44 TampaKnight
I’ve just noticed lately that when the Republicans nominate or run a black person, it gets the “token” charge.
Yet when the Democrats run black people for office, it’s supposedly their grand commitment to diversity.
My good friend is a black conservative man and rarely gets to say so without liberals jumping down his throat for being (gasp) a conservative.
I’m a white liberal woman, and what some conservatives have said to me borders on the ludicrous, let alone the offensive.
55 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:31:27pm |
re: #30 iceweasel
Steele has his own explanation for why so many are criticial of him. Naturally, it doesn’t involve admitting that he’s often a fool:
Michael Steele Suggests Criticism Of His Tenure Motivated By Racism
Much more at link.
Right, Steele. The country was ready for a black president, but not a black chair of the RNC. That’s just a bridge too far.
You have to understand how Steele rolls—one absurd comment after another.
56 | brookly red Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:31:35pm |
re: #46 Rightwingconspirator
Ever wonder what the difference between bi partisan and bi sexual is?
A bi sexual actually likes both genders.
ain’t that the truth…
oh well I gotta split now, I was told I am not allowed to gaze upon the queen of the left…
57 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:32:00pm |
re: #50 Rightwingconspirator
Agreed. But black Republicans and the Log Cabins get a special kind of criticism, as if each is required to be Democrats or liberals. WRONG- Log Cabins, and black Republicans have as much legitimacy as Dixiecrats. Big tent and all.
I’m criticising one person, Michael Steele. Not all black republicans.
58 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:32:37pm |
re: #57 iceweasel
Yes and he deserves it. I only meant to add a dimension to the point.
59 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:32:38pm |
re: #50 Rightwingconspirator
Agreed. But black Republicans and the Log Cabins get a special kind of criticism, as if each is required to be Democrats or liberals. WRONG- Log Cabins, and black Republicans have as much legitimacy as Dixiecrats. Big tent and all.
The Dixiecrats have legitimacy?
61 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:33:30pm |
re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist
The Dixiecrats have legitimacy?
Because I thought they were a disgraceful splinter group that peeled off and set up their own party.
62 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:33:34pm |
re: #50 Rightwingconspirator
Agreed. But black Republicans and the Log Cabins get a special kind of criticism, as if each is required to be Democrats or liberals. WRONG- Log Cabins, and black Republicans have as much legitimacy as Dixiecrats. Big tent and all.
Speaking from personal experience, I try to avoid doing such things.
I actually had the pleasure of rooming with that rare beast the Black Republican for the last two and a half years of my stay in college, and didn’t even realize he was one till we’d been at it for a year and the 2008 elections came up.
Granted he was one of the sane small government fiscal republicans who would fit in hear, so he was easy to get along with.
Speaking for myself I am confused when people vote against what I percieve to be their own interests, but evidently certain people place certain values higher than I would if I were them, and I try to show them as much respect as possible.
63 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:33:35pm |
re: #55 palomino
Right, Steele. The country was ready for a black president, but not a black chair of the RNC. That’s just a bridge too far.
You have to understand how Steele rolls—one absurd comment after another.
That’s exactly why I think SFZ is right— he probably would make an excellent radio host.
media matters has documented multiple cries of ‘my critics are all racist’ from Steele, available at the plum line link I gave above.
64 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:33:36pm |
re: #56 brookly red
Don’t leave. Please stay and apologize for that Ayers crack you made about her. You’d get some respect from me if you did.
65 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:34:04pm |
re: #52 iceweasel
Hey Steve— how’s it going?
I don’t know who else the GOP could have picked, but I think Steele has caused more harm to the GOP than good.
I suggested he be fired last year when he turned a blind eye to the lunacy on the right…he’s good for a paycheck, that’s all…and I’m doing okay
66 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:34:19pm |
67 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:34:30pm |
re: #50 Rightwingconspirator
Agreed. But black Republicans and the Log Cabins get a special kind of criticism, as if each is required to be Democrats or liberals. WRONG- Log Cabins, and black Republicans have as much legitimacy as Dixiecrats. Big tent and all.
I just don’t like hearing that Log Cabin Republicans have a lot of influence in the Republican party. Because it isn’t true.
I know a couple of gay conservatives, and thankfully they are smart and self-aware about the difference between national party politics and local party politics. They vote for Republicans in Oregon, because Republicans in Oregon tend to make sense, tend to actually stand for conservatism, and tend to not be screaming nutbags who accuse them of fucking dogs and raping children.
70 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:35:33pm |
re: #44 TampaKnight
I’ve just noticed lately that when the Republicans nominate or run a black person, it gets the “token” charge.
Yet when the Democrats run black people for office, it’s supposedly their grand commitment to diversity.
My good friend is a black conservative man and rarely gets to say so without liberals jumping down his throat for being (gasp) a conservative.
I think it’s just the demographics. Black conservatives are pretty rare. At the Tea Party convention there were only two blacks in attendance and both were paid speakers. It’s the same thing when the pan the crowd at the Republican convention. Not many non whites in the crowd. I think the problem is accelerating.
71 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:35:43pm |
re: #31 Racer X
Cafferty’s criticism is actually the kind of informed, reasoned opinion you’re unlikely to hear from Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly, Doocy, Carlson, Breitbart or most of the other Fox stooges.
72 | Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:36:11pm |
73 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:36:24pm |
re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist
The Dixiecrats have legitimacy?
It’s like Zombie Tu Quoque. It tastes sort of like 7up Gold. Anyone else remember 7up Gold?
74 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:36:51pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
I think it’s just the demographics. Black conservatives are pretty rare. At the Tea Party convention there were only two blacks in attendance and both were paid speakers. It’s the same thing when the pan the crowd at the Republican convention. Not many non whites in the crowd. I think the problem is accelerating.
Damn if if you get much whiter you’ll be invisible!
(Paraphrasing the Nostalgia Critic while watching the movie “Cool as Ice”)
75 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:37:02pm |
re: #64 Dark_Falcon
Don’t leave. Please stay and apologize for that Ayers crack you made about her. You’d get some respect from me if you did.
what bullshit…keep your respect to yourself
77 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:37:48pm |
re: #44 TampaKnight
Good point. Just look at all the black tea partiers.
78 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:37:49pm |
79 | darthstar Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:38:13pm |
80 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:38:13pm |
81 | zora Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:38:32pm |
Michael Steele’s “assholery” knows no bounds. It would be evident if he were rainbow that he is incompetent. He won’t let anyone forget. I’m sure even his wife reminds him. I’m from MD and I’ve probably been sick of him longer than most of you.
82 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:38:39pm |
re: #66 jamesfirecat
There are Dixiecrats left?
Sure…they all have signs on their walls that say “Robert E. Lee May Have Give Up, But I Ain’t”.
But as a party, they are buried six feet under, with a stake through their bigoted heart.
83 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:38:49pm |
re: #67 WindUpBird
A friend of mine who’s a gay Republican responds to “How can you be a Republican?” with “How can you be a Democrat?” Meaning that the Democrats have always jettisoned gay rights when it was politically convenient, despite the immense amount of energy and activism given to the Democrats and left-wing causes by gays.
He adores Meghan McCain, but he’s worried she doesn’t actually have the chops to push her agenda and become a big player in the GOP.
84 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:39:04pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
Slight tangent-I know of a reservoir of conservative black republicans. Mothers. Law and order conservatives who fear for the safety of their kids on tough neighborhoods. They may not be small gov types, or fire breathing socons, but they got law and order all in order. No drugs, no gangs, and get educated. Great moms.
Love ‘em!
85 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:39:23pm |
re: #67 WindUpBird
I just don’t like hearing that Log Cabin Republicans have a lot of influence in the Republican party. Because it isn’t true.
I know a couple of gay conservatives, and thankfully they are smart and self-aware about the difference between national party politics and local party politics. They vote for Republicans in Oregon, because Republicans in Oregon tend to make sense, tend to actually stand for conservatism, and tend to not be screaming nutbags who accuse them of fucking dogs and raping children.
Anyone here ever seen “The Mostly Unfabulous Social Life of Ethan Green”? Movie, not cartoon. Ethan’s ex-boyfriend is engaged to a Log Cabiner. Much stress.
86 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:39:23pm |
Did you notice what was on the screen at the end of the Onion video?
“Overwhelmed Obama gets in Air Force One and just starts flying.”
87 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:40:05pm |
re: #78 albusteve
democrats that is…call them what you will
No I think modern day Dixiecrats are called “Republicans” look at Strom Thurmond or Trent Lott….
88 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:40:26pm |
re: #42 Jimmah
And I’m suddenly finding all this strange music in my youtube favourites folder!
[Video]
LOL!
That was a flashback!
89 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:40:45pm |
re: #73 WindUpBird
It’s like Zombie Tu Quoque. It tastes sort of like 7up Gold. Anyone else remember 7up Gold?
No. Sorry. I don’t remember the Dixiecrats, either. Their best year was the one my mother was born in.
Before you start to feel sorry for her, that was also the year Israel declared statehood.
90 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:41:20pm |
re: #74 jamesfirecat
Damn if if you get much whiter you’ll be invisible!
(Paraphrasing the Nostalgia Critic while watching the movie “Cool as Ice”)
No, that’s my husband. His Cherokee blood is fighting a losing battle against the extreme whiteness of everyone else in the gene pool.
91 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:41:30pm |
re: #84 Rightwingconspirator
I think there’s a lot of potential for the Republicans to attract more Jews, blacks and Hispanics. Unfortunately the Republicans aren’t interested.
92 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:41:46pm |
94 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:42:28pm |
re: #77 palomino
Good point. Just look at all the black tea partiers.
There was that guy with the M-4. He was crazy enough for at least ten men.
95 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:42:54pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
I also think there’s a lot of potential young voters who could become interested in conservatism if there was a little bit of rebranding but the GOP just wants to get older, richer and whiter.
96 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:43:01pm |
re: #80 albusteve
it’s not your concern
She’s my friend and Brookly took a cheap shot at her. I faulted him for doing so, the same way as I faulted Jimmah for flinging snark last night. I’m trying to improve civility and thus reduce flame wars. I’m willing to mind other’s business to do so.
97 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:43:10pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
Especially Hispanics. Hispanics could have totally enlivened the GOP eight years ago. I thought G. W Bush really was going to make that connection— I know he did in the election, but the weight of the rest of the party I think ruined any real chances he had during his term to make inroads there.
98 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:43:20pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
Sadly true. Wife and I share your sentiment. I have spent some time with the Log Cabins. Very interesting conversations. In California they move some serious campaign cash.
99 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:43:53pm |
re: #87 jamesfirecat
No I think modern day Dixiecrats are called “Republicans” look at Strom Thurmond or Trent Lott…
We kept Byrd, for reasons that are not entirely clear to me.
100 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:43:56pm |
re: #83 Obdicut
A friend of mine who’s a gay Republican responds to “How can you be a Republican?” with “How can you be a Democrat?” Meaning that the Democrats have always jettisoned gay rights when it was politically convenient, despite the immense amount of energy and activism given to the Democrats and left-wing causes by gays.
He adores Meghan McCain, but he’s worried she doesn’t actually have the chops to push her agenda and become a big player in the GOP.
it’s a disgrace generally how gays are treated in this country, but to be used as political fodder by the democrats especially burns me
102 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:45:00pm |
re: #95 Killgore Trout
I also think there’s a lot of potential young voters who could become interested in conservatism if there was a little bit of rebranding but the GOP just wants to get older, richer and whiter.
You said “Rebranding” that’s today’s magic word!
You’ve won a free Daily Show Clip!
103 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:45:46pm |
re: #93 MandyManners
haid splodin agin
Why? That’s correct. When the Republicans got the white Southern influx, you got most of the Dixiecrats in the mix. Strom Thurmond, their former presidential candidate, being amongst them.
104 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:46:06pm |
re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist
We kept Byrd, for reasons that are not entirely clear to me.
Well he seems to vote with us reliably, that’s more than I can say for some other Democratic Senators…
105 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:46:16pm |
OT - I’ve gotten this from 2 female family members and a female friend, with a message (paraphrasing): can you find this site for me?
maybe I could but ain’t gonna
106 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:46:25pm |
re: #96 Dark_Falcon
She’s my friend and Brookly took a cheap shot at her. I faulted him for doing so, the same way as I faulted Jimmah for flinging snark last night. I’m trying to improve civility and thus reduce flame wars. I’m willing to mind other’s business to do so.
yeah, your getting yourself a fan club I hear…I’m more of a mind your own business kind of poster….there is moderation here but if you deem yourself some kind of influence then so be it, gives you something to do
107 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:47:22pm |
108 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:47:27pm |
re: #97 Obdicut
Especially Hispanics. Hispanics could have totally enlivened the GOP eight years ago. I thought G. W Bush really was going to make that connection— I know he did in the election, but the weight of the rest of the party I think ruined any real chances he had during his term to make inroads there.
I find it so strange. I really don’t understand why they appear to be so willing to give up that demographic. (I don’t understand why they’re willing to give up so many demographics, though).
Nate Silver did an excellent demographic analysis of how the GOP could possibly win without the Hispanic vote. The conclusion though is that by 2030 it will be literally impossible to win national office without a sizeable chunk of it.
Breakdown here:
Operation Gringo: Can the Republicans Sacrifice the Hispanic Vote and Win the White House?
109 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:47:35pm |
re: #97 Obdicut
Especially Hispanics. Hispanics could have totally enlivened the GOP eight years ago. I thought G. W Bush really was going to make that connection— I know he did in the election, but the weight of the rest of the party I think ruined any real chances he had during his term to make inroads there.
Bush tried, and I think he could have made real headway if there’d been more interest from the party.
110 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:47:38pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
I think there’s a lot of potential for the Republicans to attract more Jews, blacks and Hispanics. Unfortunately the Republicans aren’t interested.
Exactly. And Hispanics are the real X factor here. Jews make up less than 2% of the national population, and blacks are probably lost to the GOP for a while.
But Latinos are 15% of the population and the fastest growing ethnic group. In 40 years, they’ll be at 30%.
Letting people like Tancredo define the GOP’s position on immigration is insanely self-destructive. Who do you think Tancredo meant when he referred to “people who can’t even speak or spell in English”?
111 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:47:50pm |
re: #106 albusteve
How are you a mind your own business poster when you continually jump into the middle of other peoples’ conversations? Dude. You did it to DF in this thread.
112 | recusancy Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:47:57pm |
re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist
Why? That’s correct. When the Republicans got the white Southern influx, you got most of the Dixiecrats in the mix. Strom Thurmond, their former presidential candidate, being amongst them.
Zell Miller was the last of ‘em and he went out threatening to duel a cable news pundit.
113 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:48:11pm |
re: #44 TampaKnight
One name for ya. Larry Elder
114 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:48:21pm |
re: #100 albusteve
it’s a disgrace generally how gays are treated in this country, but to be used as political fodder by the democrats especially burns me
Why? You’re not a Democrat, so why should you care?
115 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:48:58pm |
re: #112 recusancy
Not threatening, just pining for a lost opportunity.
116 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:49:05pm |
re: #104 jamesfirecat
Well he seems to vote with us reliably, that’s more than I can say for some other Democratic Senators…
Yeah. I won’t say where he should stick his vote. He’s an elderly man, which in some circles washes away many sins.
117 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:49:05pm |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Let me guess: she’s one of those racist, white-nationalist-supporting tea-baggers. //
118 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:50:14pm |
re: #97 Obdicut
Especially Hispanics. Hispanics could have totally enlivened the GOP eight years ago. I thought G. W Bush really was going to make that connection— I know he did in the election, but the weight of the rest of the party I think ruined any real chances he had during his term to make inroads there.
W and Rove were actually trying to make such inroads. Then the immigration issue came along and the GOP tone turned nativist.
Remember those marches right after of nearly a million people in LA, Chicago and other cities? Which party do you think they feel more comfortable with now?
120 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:50:17pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
Bush tried, and I think he could have made real headway if there’d been more interest from the party.
it turned with his immigration reform sell out imo…sell out t the hard right that is
121 | simoom Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:50:23pm |
Gallup has their 2009 Global Perceptions of U.S. Leadership survey up here:
gallup.com
Perceptions of U.S. leadership worldwide improved significantly from 2008 to 2009. The U.S.-Global Leadership Project, a partnership between the Meridian International Center and Gallup, finds that a median of 51% of the world approves of the job performance of the current leadership of the U.S., up from a median of 34% in 2008.
…
Significant improvements in sentiment toward U.S. leadership are evident in all four major global regions, with the largest year-over-year increase in approval measured in Europe. Median approval of U.S. leadership increased by 28 percentage points between 2008 and 2009 in this region. A median of 47% approves and a median of 20% disapproves — the first time disapproval has dropped below 50% in Europe since Gallup first asked the question.
A country by country breakdown can be found here (with a color-coded map widget):
gallup.com
It’s interesting to see which countries are up significantly and which are down. I can come up with obvious or reasonable explanations for most, but some I don’t get. For example Ireland is up 57%(!?) over 2008, while Vietnam is down 27%.
122 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:50:32pm |
re: #108 iceweasel
There’s a weird kind of fatalism running through a lot of the GOP. It’s visible in the unprecedented obstructionism, in the fight to deny AGW, and in the conspiracy theories— the ‘ACORN stole the election’ thing. I don’t really know where it comes from, but the one thing they don’t seem to be able to do right now is to change. They’re turning up the dial, but nothing is really changing.
Meh. I can’t express it well enough.
123 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:50:38pm |
re: #110 palomino
Exactly. And Hispanics are the real X factor here. Jews make up less than 2% of the national population, and blacks are probably lost to the GOP for a while.
But Latinos are 15% of the population and the fastest growing ethnic group. In 40 years, they’ll be at 30%.
Letting people like Tancredo define the GOP’s position on immigration is insanely self-destructive. Who do you think Tancredo meant when he referred to “people who can’t even speak or spell in English”?
Spot on. Latinos are a winnable, big, juicy, demographic for Republicans.
124 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:50:56pm |
re: #112 recusancy
Zell Miller was the last of ‘em and he went out threatening to duel a cable news pundit.
LOL.
126 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:51:08pm |
re: #106 albusteve
An influence for calm here is not a bad thing. It’s a worthy effort even if unwelcome when emotions run hot.
127 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:51:49pm |
Automatic dismissal of black candidates on the right as ‘uncle toms’ is wrong; people who do that seem to assume that black people can only be authentic or whatever if they are democrats.
It’s the same when some people assume that Jews are only ‘real’ Jews if they support the most right wing candidates in Israel.
128 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:51:58pm |
re: #111 Obdicut
How are you a mind your own business poster when you continually jump into the middle of other peoples’ conversations? Dude. You did it to DF in this thread.
I don’t tell people what to post….there is a difference, altho I did offer to take LVQs apology once…call me a hypocrit
129 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:52:08pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah. I won’t say where he should stick his vote. He’s an elderly man, which in some circles washes away many sins.
The Democrats may be whores, but at least with Senator Bird we’re whores who get some 100$ stuffed in our panties instead of waking up with an IOU from Liberman, or a Nelson charging us for the pleasure…..
130 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:52:08pm |
re: #100 albusteve
it’s a disgrace generally how gays are treated in this country, but to be used as political fodder by the democrats especially burns me
That’s worse than being used as the bogeyman scare tactic by the elephants? “oh, no, they’ll ruin all our straight marriages and molest our children if they teach in our schools.”
131 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:52:44pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
If Republican, ’ Your experience may vary ‘.
A Lott.
132 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:52:58pm |
re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist
And I would be a lot happier with a GOP with more Hispanic influence, too— I think it’d be really health for the GOP to get a strong new influence, a genuinely conservative, definitely valuing what’s great about America group of people to challenge some assumptions and provide new thought.
133 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:53:09pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
There’s a weird kind of fatalism running through a lot of the GOP. It’s visible in the unprecedented obstructionism, in the fight to deny AGW, and in the conspiracy theories— the ‘ACORN stole the election’ thing. I don’t really know where it comes from, but the one thing they don’t seem to be able to do right now is to change. They’re turning up the dial, but nothing is really changing.
Meh. I can’t express it well enough.
I thought that was very well expressed. I wish I had some sort of explanation for the fatalism though. I don’t get it, although we see the effects of it all around us.
They’re also, in many ways, stuck in some kind of weird timewarp. They appear to think that what worked 30 years ago (socon/religious right/theocrat convergence) is the path back to victory now too— and that train has sailed, as Austin Powers would say.
134 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:53:12pm |
re: #119 cliffster
I have a bad feeling about this thread
I swear it’s going to end like last Week’s Jersey Shores…
135 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:53:32pm |
re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist
We kept Byrd, for reasons that are not entirely clear to me.
Because WV, like SC with Strom Thurmond, just loves their traditions. No matter how old and feeble-minded.
136 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:54:33pm |
re: #108 iceweasel
hey ice - that Temple Grandin movie was really moving. You’re right, she’s an amazing person. Funny, it combines two things that are really on my radar - autism and animal decency. Very strange to have them lumped together like that.
137 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:54:44pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
There’s a weird kind of fatalism running through a lot of the GOP. It’s visible in the unprecedented obstructionism, in the fight to deny AGW, and in the conspiracy theories— the ‘ACORN stole the election’ thing. I don’t really know where it comes from, but the one thing they don’t seem to be able to do right now is to change. They’re turning up the dial, but nothing is really changing.
Meh. I can’t express it well enough.
No, I know what you mean. I think that’s feeding a lot of the Tea Party madness.
It’s a pity. The GOP is coming into a whole lot of opportunity, day by day. The ONLY thing, short of stuff I don’t want to think about, that could have let them back into the game so fast, happened. Obama’s got a dead-in-the-water economy. This is like a blessing from God for the Republicans, at least the ones who are still working. They should jump on it, and keep it more Scott Brown, and less Michelle Bachmann.
138 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:54:51pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
Why? You’re not a Democrat, so why should you care?
don’t be silly…I’m not a Republican either, I don’t give a shit about party affiliation…and don’t really understand those that do…I don’t join clubs
140 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:55:03pm |
re: #134 HoosierHoops
Oh man, I miss the Conan bits about Jersey Shore. Damn you NBC!
141 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:55:14pm |
re: #127 Jimmah
Nobody should take a group for granted.
142 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:55:44pm |
re: #126 Rightwingconspirator
An influence for calm here is not a bad thing. It’s a worthy effort even if unwelcome when emotions run hot.
DF called out an example of ongoing bad behaviour, as he is wont to do regardless of who engages in it.
If we all did that sort of thing more often this place would probably have fewer flame wars.
143 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:55:45pm |
re: #131 tradewind
If Republican, ’ Your experience may vary ‘.
A Lott.
Yes. That’s what I was referring to.
144 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:56:17pm |
re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist
Wow. Hey you just nailed it there! Seriously true.
145 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:57:23pm |
re: #136 cliffster
hey ice - that Temple Grandin movie was really moving. You’re right, she’s an amazing person. Funny, it combines two things that are really on my radar - autism and animal decency. Very strange to have them lumped together like that.
Oh cliffster, I was just thinking of you this AM, because I ran across a piece somewhere that mentioned it in passing— you were watching the HBO pic on her, I think?
She’s really amazing. I think I first ran across her when Oliver Sacks first mentioned her in one of his books.
I definitely want to see the HBO pic now.
146 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:58:06pm |
re: #126 Rightwingconspirator
An influence for calm here is not a bad thing. It’s a worthy effort even if unwelcome when emotions run hot.
okay…it’s just another sort of oblique authority I reject out of hand
147 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:58:19pm |
re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist
Spot on. Latinos are a winnable, big, juicy, demographic for Republicans.
I was tempted to change “are” to “were”, but I guess there’s still time to right course. If the current nativist rhetoric continues though, there will be at least a generation lost to the GOP.
148 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:58:24pm |
149 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 7:59:32pm |
re: #147 Kruk
I was tempted to change “are” to “were”, but I guess there’s still time to right course. If the current nativist rhetoric continues though, there will be at least a generation lost to the GOP.
Shame and a waste. But hey, my party will be grateful.
150 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:00:09pm |
re: #100 albusteve
it’s a disgrace generally how gays are treated in this country, but to be used as political fodder by the democrats especially burns me
Look how the Dems treat gays who leave the leftist plantation. Not very progressive. Its apparently OK for Dems to be openly homophobic as long as the target is a conservative.
Kind of like how African Americans who are conservative immediately get labelled Uncle Tom. Thats such a disgusting part of American Politics. If you are white, you can have whatever political loyalty you like. But for African Americans, if they are not loyal to the Democratic party they can count on lily white leftists saying they aren’t black enough. Whatever the hell that means.
151 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:00:26pm |
re: #135 palomino
Because WV, like SC with Strom Thurmond, just loves their traditions. No matter how old and feeble-minded.
Hey our coot can out coot their coot!
152 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:00:32pm |
re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist
Spot on. Latinos are a winnable, big, juicy, demographic for Republicans.
But it seems like the GOP is doing everything they can to piss it away. The nativist anti-immigrant tone as well as far right positions on economic and social welfare issues won’t bring in Latino voters.
And the tea partiers are poison when it comes to expanding appeal beyond whites.
153 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:00:36pm |
re: #130 palomino
That’s worse than being used as the bogeyman scare tactic by the elephants? “oh, no, they’ll ruin all our straight marriages and molest our children if they teach in our schools.”
yes, same thing I guess in that regard, but gays helped BO get elected and he’s turned his back on them…of course someone will dispute that
154 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:01:06pm |
re: #152 palomino
But it seems like the GOP is doing everything they can to piss it away. The nativist anti-immigrant tone as well as far right positions on economic and social welfare issues won’t bring in Latino voters.
And the tea partiers are poison when it comes to expanding appeal beyond whites.
Don’t forget supporting the “Minutemen”…..
155 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:01:14pm |
re: #153 albusteve
yes, same thing I guess in that regard, but gays helped BO get elected and he’s turned his back on them…of course someone will dispute that
Not me.
156 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:01:34pm |
re: #145 iceweasel
IDub…
There is this thing called snow and it keeps falling out the sky.. I keep looking out the window…It keeps snowing…
/Send Beer!
*wink*
157 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:01:46pm |
re: #125 MandyManners
SNIP
The main witness against him is a former Red Army soldier, one the ones who played a cardinal role in the revolt at the death camp. Such soldiers had the highest rate of survival among those who escaped, mostly thanks to their training and their leader, Red Army Lieutenant (later Captain) Alexander Pechersky.
158 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:02:14pm |
re: #129 jamesfirecat
Yeah, when it comes to draggin’ in a grand or so, there’s no beating an old grand dragon.
Had Byrd been a Republican, he’d have been tarred and feathered out of the Senate long ago. Instead, mirabile dictu! he gets away with using the N word on the floor.
159 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:02:22pm |
I did some poking around on CNN and observationalism.com and found the Republican black vote for the last several presidential elections:
1992 10%
1996 12%
2000 9%
2004 11%
2008 4%
I see no clear trend if we ignore the Obama effect for ‘08. The GOP is not lifting a finger to attract this demographic.
On another point too far up to find again, I don’t think black mothers are natural GOP targets. While they may have more interest in law and order, and are temperamentally conservative, they also have more 1st and 2nd hand experience of brazen, hypocrite, thieving, racist, thuggery from police, as a whole. The even-handed local pol will support law and order AND fight police corruption. In the real world, the dems address half; the republicans the other half. I’ve seen a bit of it in the total difference in how they treat the ladies in my homeowners association vs. brown kids kicking a soccer ball around in the park by my house.
160 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:02:38pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
The main witness against him is a former Red Army soldier, one the ones who played a cardinal role in the revolt at the death camp. Such soldiers had the highest rate of survival among those who escaped, mostly thanks to their training and their leader, Red Army Lieutenant (later Captain) Alexander Pechersky.
A nice Jewish boy.
161 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:02:56pm |
re: #156 HoosierHoops
IDub…
There is this thing called snow and it keeps falling out the sky.. I keep looking out the window…It keeps snowing…
/Send Beer!
*wink*
How much snow do you have, Hoops?
I hope Winston wears his little coat when you go out!
162 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:03:01pm |
re: #153 albusteve
yes, same thing I guess in that regard, but gays helped BO get elected and he’s turned his back on them…of course someone will dispute that
Well he’s trying to repeal DADT and it’s not like he ever claimed he was for anything more than civili unions.
Besides, (SARCSAM) since they’re gay, maybe they see him “turning his back on them as a good thing. (CHEAP TASTELESS JOKE! I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!)
163 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:03:22pm |
re: #142 iceweasel
re: #146 albusteve
Ice, I’m in on that. Seen one Lizard fight between folks I like too many. My policy moves from merely updinging calls for calm only to also downdinging personal attacks and coming out for peace among us Lizards. I know some thrive on conflict… Heh “My policy” Not important. One voice in a thousand.
I’m not thin skinned, I just have adequate conflict in my real world past so I avoid it here. My reaction to the blogwars and CJ’s hate mail is not anger or righteous indignation. It is nausea.
164 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:04:30pm |
re: #126 Rightwingconspirator
An influence for calm here is not a bad thing. It’s a worthy effort even if unwelcome when emotions run hot.
Thank you, RWC.
re: #142 iceweasel
DF called out an example of ongoing bad behaviour, as he is wont to do regardless of who engages in it.
If we all did that sort of thing more often this place would probably have fewer flame wars.
And I thank you too, ice.
165 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:04:37pm |
re: #162 jamesfirecat
Besides, (SARCSAM) since they’re gay, maybe they see him “turning his back on them as a good thing. (CHEAP TASTELESS JOKE! I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!)
Stay Classy JFC.
166 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:05:10pm |
re: #141 Rightwingconspirator
Nobody should take a group for granted.
Yep. There are of course, individual cases where one can see that someone is aligning themselves with a group that some would see as contrary to their identity for reasons that are ultimately not necessarily political, but instead reflect some messed up personal or social issues. But that is unusual and should never be assumed.
167 | iceweasel Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:05:47pm |
re: #163 Rightwingconspirator
re: #146 albusteve
Ice, I’m in on that. Seen one Lizard fight between folks I like too many. My policy moves from merely updinging calls for calm only to also downdinging personal attacks and coming out for peace among us Lizards. I know some thrive on conflict… Heh “My policy” Not important. One voice in a thousand.
I’m not thin skinned, I just have adequate conflict in my real world past so I avoid it here. My reaction to the blogwars and CJ’s hate mail is not anger or righteous indignation. It is nausea.
Ditto.
There’s so much to legitimately get outraged about or angry about in the world; directing it at a bunch of pixels seems a waste, at best.
On the other hand, some folks with no outlet for rage in real life direct it online (I’m thinking about CJ’s hatemail, etc.)
169 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:06:18pm |
re: #150 Mich-again
Look how the Dems treat gays who leave the leftist plantation. Not very progressive. Its apparently OK for Dems to be openly homophobic as long as the target is a conservative.
Kind of like how African Americans who are conservative immediately get labelled Uncle Tom. Thats such a disgusting part of American Politics. If you are white, you can have whatever political loyalty you like. But for African Americans, if they are not loyal to the Democratic party they can count on lily white leftists saying they aren’t black enough. Whatever the hell that means.
I think that’s what called white/hetrosexual/male (insert adjective of choice) privilege. People on both sides of the political divide use it, and it’s never pretty. I think anyone claiming that amount of anti-Black or anti-Gay sentiment being expressed on the left is somehow greater than that on the right is on very shaky ground, though.
170 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:06:31pm |
re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist
Shame and a waste. But hey, my party will be grateful.
I’m not worried. A hard-working bunch, those Mexicans. As soon as more of them start making a lot of money as is inevitable, the tides will turn ;)
171 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:08:00pm |
re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist
A nice Jewish boy.
He was also a true battle leader who took the German principles of close assault and shock tactics and used them against their designers to devastating effect. The rise of men like him was a major factor in the Red Army’s ability to turn the tide on the Eastern Front.
172 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:08:52pm |
re: #158 tradewind
Yeah, when it comes to draggin’ in a grand or so, there’s no beating an old grand dragon.
Had Byrd been a Republican, he’d have been tarred and feathered out of the Senate long ago. Instead, mirabile dictu! he gets away with using the N word on the floor.
Really?
Was the guy who ran for President on a policy of segregation ever tarred and feathred out?
173 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:08:54pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
There’s a weird kind of fatalism running through a lot of the GOP. It’s visible in the unprecedented obstructionism, in the fight to deny AGW, and in the conspiracy theories— the ‘ACORN stole the election’ thing. I don’t really know where it comes from, but the one thing they don’t seem to be able to do right now is to change. They’re turning up the dial, but nothing is really changing.
Meh. I can’t express it well enough.
There’s a lot to it, I think. One small part is being pushed into a corner—the elections of 2006-2008 were their worst since the 1930s, so they adopted sort of a disaster mentality.
Another small part is the fanatical end times element that thinks man has no effect on the planet, so we should just “drill baby drill”.
174 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:09:23pm |
re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist
No. Sorry. I don’t remember the Dixiecrats, either. Their best year was the one my mother was born in.
Before you start to feel sorry for her, that was also the year Israel declared statehood.
Your mother is the same age as Zedushka!
175 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:09:53pm |
re: #158 tradewind
Yeah, when it comes to draggin’ in a grand or so, there’s no beating an old grand dragon.
Had Byrd been a Republican, he’d have been tarred and feathered out of the Senate long ago. Instead, mirabile dictu! he gets away with using the N word on the floor.
Thurmond served as a Republican from 1964 on and was not noticeably tarred and feathered, despite having run as an independent candidate against integration.
I assume there’s a reason this doesn’t count?
176 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:10:22pm |
re: #161 iceweasel
How much snow do you have, Hoops?
I hope Winston wears his little coat when you go out!
A lot of snow tonight.. Winston has learned by now to run under the covers when I go out with the snow shovel..
He may be a dog but he isn’t stupid….There is a reason you never see pictures on the Internet of Beverly Hills Chihuahuas doing snow angels during Blizzards…
177 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:10:39pm |
Hahahahahahahahaha!
*deep breath*
Hahahahahahahahaha!
178 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:10:50pm |
re: #170 cliffster
I’m not worried. A hard-working bunch, those Mexicans. As soon as more of them start making a lot of money as is inevitable, the tides will turn ;)
That’s what they said about the Jews, isn’t it?
/
179 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:12:13pm |
re: #165 Mich-again
Stay Classy JFC.
Sorry, albusteve talked about Obama turning his back on the gays and I couldn’t help myself but reach for the low hangign fruit, (THERE I GO AGAIN!)
I’m including these great big (JOKE) parrens so that its clear to people what I mean to avoid further misunderstandings.
180 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:12:37pm |
re: #176 HoosierHoops
A lot of snow tonight.. Winston has learned by now to run under the covers when I go out with the snow shovel..
He may be a dog but he isn’t stupid…There is a reason you never see pictures on the Internet of Beverly Hills Chihuahuas doing snow angels during Blizzards…
Uh, cause it never snows in southern California?
/
182 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:13:07pm |
re: #168 MandyManners
It’s a start.
Obama is now whining about holds on nominees, when he did the very same thing as a Senator.
183 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:13:50pm |
re: #169 Kruk
I think anyone claiming that amount of anti-Black or anti-Gay sentiment being expressed on the left is somehow greater than that on the right is on very shaky ground, though.
Strawman. I never said the sentiment from the Left was greater. Only that it exists. And for a political movement that claims to be the Champion of a civil rights movement, it points out what bullshit that claim is when the civil rights take a backseat to political loyalty.
If you are concerned about someones’s civil rights, it shouldn’t matter what their politics are. If a person’s politics get in the way of your concern for their civil rights, it points out what a complete lie that concern really is.
184 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:13:57pm |
re: #176 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoosier how are ya? All we got is rain to let drain. Now I see you still got snow to shovel? Damn we got it easy in SoCal, apart from some folks shoveling mud tonight.
186 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:14:15pm |
re: #172 jamesfirecat
I’m talking twenty-first century history , not ancient.
The PC Police have not always been as powerful.
187 | Baier Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:14:43pm |
re: #29 jamesfirecat
I would like to suggests that idiots with all levels of melanomen in all parties should sit down and shut up.
It looks like you’ve got one of those two skills mastered.
188 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:15:08pm |
re: #186 tradewind
I’m talking twenty-first century history , not ancient.
The PC Police have not always been as powerful.
When did Robert Byrd recently use the N word on the senate floor?
189 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:15:14pm |
re: #180 Alouette
Uh, cause it never snows in southern California?
/
It did once……
(In this collection of geeks, I can’t be the only Buffy fan here, can I?)
190 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:15:17pm |
re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist
That’s what they said about the Jews, isn’t it?
/
It’s only a matter of time..
191 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:16:17pm |
re: #11 Dark_Falcon
I actually think its a great idea. A black woman might well be able to win that seat. Sh’es be a great spokesperson to counter Obama with and she’d help defuse the “Racist!” charge the Donks sometimes fling. What’s not to like?
Well, look how much the left respected Condi Rice and Colin Powell, during the administration of President Satan Incarnate.
192 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:16:45pm |
193 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:16:53pm |
re: #188 jamesfirecat
When did Robert Byrd recently use the N word on the senate floor?
I think it was actually an interview. Google it. He actually is a moron.
194 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:17:04pm |
re: #179 jamesfirecat
You forgot the obligatory ’ nutjob’ reference.
Speaking of low-hanging fruit….
Go for the spellcheck before Cato checks in.
Just saying.
195 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:17:13pm |
re: #191 The Sanity Inspector
Well, look how much the left respected Condi Rice and Colin Powell, during the administration of President Satan Incarnate.
Hello. Every good Democrat knows those two weren’t black enough. /
197 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:17:41pm |
re: #32 Ojoe
OT
Here is some “fine” news from one of the trade journals that I get (US Glass):
Vol 45 No. 1, Jan. 2010
“Meanwhile, this month the American Institute of Architects released its semi-annual Consensus Construction Forecast, which reported that nonresidential construction spending is expected to decrease by 13.4 percent in 2010.”
One suspects that the politicians and the media are lying about “the beginnings of recovery.”
And I see a political bloodbath in November, and a 1-term president.
Foreclosures, both normal and gray have seen a significant increase as well. Commercial paper remains scarce and there is fear of a wave of commercial defaults.
In my opinion the media overplayed the financial weakness that led to the crisis which put Obama in the White House. Now that same media is putting a happy face on the economy for the same basic reason.
198 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:17:54pm |
re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist
The trend works for everyone except Jews. That’s why Pat Buchanan is such a paleo-conservative, imho. White Irish Catholics only got their card stamped to be really, truly part of Team Whitey in his lifetime. Now there’s some psychology going on in his big round combed over Charlie Brown head.
As the late Jewish scholar Milton Himmelfarb said in the 1950s, “Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans,”
199 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:18:37pm |
re: #179 jamesfirecat
Sorry, albusteve talked about Obama turning his back on the gays and I couldn’t help myself but reach for the low hangign fruit, (THERE I GO AGAIN!)
I’m including these great big (JOKE) parrens so that its clear to people what I mean to avoid further misunderstandings.
You know that LGF has a spellchecker?
How did you get into college?
200 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:19:13pm |
re: #147 Kruk
Latinos in the US (florida’s cubans excepted) already tend to be somewhat left of center, especially on economic and social justice issues. Only on abortion and a few other religious issues are they more to the right. Rove was wily enough to know this had to be played delicately.
Then the Tancredo-Duncan Hunter crowd came along and screwed that up. And the tea parties can’t be helping. Rhetoric like “return us to our great granddaddy’s way of doing things” doesn’t usually play well with more recent immigrants.
201 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:19:22pm |
re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist
It happened more than once. You can’t make stuff like his up.
202 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:20:00pm |
re: #198 keloyd
The trend works for everyone except Jews. That’s why Pat Buchanan is such a paleo-conservative, imho. White Irish Catholics only got their card stamped to be really, truly part of Team Whitey in his lifetime. Now there’s some psychology going on in his big round combed over Charlie Brown head.
As the late Jewish scholar Milton Himmelfarb said in the 1950s, “Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans,”
How did the trend miss me? I (used to) vote like an Episcopalian and I earn like a Puerto Rican.
203 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:20:11pm |
re: #195 Mich-again
Hello. Every good Democrat knows those two weren’t black enough. /
I admire them both greatly, and so do many of the Democrats I know.
My mother believes that Condi ‘just fell in with bad companions’. That would be the Bush administration, BTW.
204 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:20:26pm |
re: #176 HoosierHoops
A lot of snow tonight.. Winston has learned by now to run under the covers when I go out with the snow shovel..
He may be a dog but he isn’t stupid…There is a reason you never see pictures on the Internet of Beverly Hills Chihuahuas doing snow angels during Blizzards…
Still, there’s that one popular video of the dog that’s having a blast in the snow.
205 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:20:26pm |
re: #171 Dark_Falcon
There are so many great stories to be told about the captains and sergeants of the Red Army.
Have you read The Face of Battle, by the way?
206 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:20:33pm |
re: #199 Alouette
You know that LGF has a spellchecker?
How did you get into college?
With an essay my parents helped edit.
Sorry, it’s getting late at night, I’m naturally gad with homophones but I’ll go back to stritckly obeying the little red “Stop” lines to prevent further mistakes.
207 | prairiefire Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:20:50pm |
New Patty Griffin, “Little Fire”: Youtube Video
208 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:11pm |
re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist
I think it was actually an interview. Google it. He actually is a moron.
“White N “
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
209 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:26pm |
re: #189 Kruk
It did once…
(In this collection of geeks, I can’t be the only Buffy fan here, can I?)
No, you aren’t. I became a fan late in the show’s second season and remained so till the end, with the exception of the next to last season, most of which I missed due to work.
210 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:31pm |
211 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:35pm |
re: #195 Mich-again
Hello. Every good Democrat knows those two weren’t black enough. /
Dave Chappelle’s famous “Race Draft” sketch.
/sorry for the bad quality, it’s the only one I could find with the whole thing.
212 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:38pm |
re: #153 albusteve
yes, same thing I guess in that regard, but gays helped BO get elected and he’s turned his back on them…of course someone will dispute that
What should he be doing for gays right now that he’s not? If he had barged in the door promising to repeal DADT, like Clinton did, it would have blown up in his face.
And he’s certainly appointed more openly gay peeps than any previous prez.
213 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:40pm |
re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist
That’s what they said about the Jews, isn’t it?
/
The Jews of those ancient days had imagination, they had dignity, they had ears for sweet sound, they had, above all, the faculty of grandeur. The stupendous music that issued from them has swept their barbaric demonology along with it, setting at naught the collective intelligence of the human species; they embalmed their idiotic taboos and fetishes in undying strains, and so gave them some measure of the same immortality. A race of lawgivers? Bosh! Leviticus is as archaic as the Code of Manu, and the Decalogue is a fossil. A race of seers? Bosh again! The God they saw survives only as a bogey-man, a theory, an uneasy and vexatious ghost. A race of traders and sharpers? Bosh a third time! The Jews are as poor as the Spaniards. But a race of poets, my lords, a race of poets! It is a vision of beauty that has ever haunted them. And it has been their destiny to transmit that vision, enfeebled, perhaps, but still distinct, to other and lesser peoples, that life might be made softer for the sons of men, and the goodness of the Lord God—whoever He may be—might not be forgotten.
— H. L. Mencken, Damn! A Book of Calumny, 1918
214 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:21:46pm |
re: #199 Alouette
(LOL… I almost felt bad, but now, not so much) .
215 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:22:00pm |
re: #208 jamesfirecat
“White N “
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
I don’t think it’s a compliment to anyone. Let’s put it like that.
217 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:22:30pm |
re: #183 Mich-again
Strawman. I never said the sentiment from the Left was greater. Only that it exists. And for a political movement that claims to be the Champion of a civil rights movement, it points out what bullshit that claim is when the civil rights take a backseat to political loyalty.
If you are concerned about someones’s civil rights, it shouldn’t matter what their politics are. If a person’s politics get in the way of your concern for their civil rights, it points out what a complete lie that concern really is.
Absolutely, and I would speak out about it regardless of who it came from. Privilege can be abused, and so called “allies” are sometimes just as harmfull as declared enemies. Having said that though, time and again in the last half century it’s been the Dems who have been pushing forward the rights of civil rights of blacks, women and gays, and the GOP who have been pushing back. Bad behaviour by some on the Democratic side don’t overshadow a very real difference in both rhetoric and achievement.
218 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:22:55pm |
re: #180 Alouette
Uh, cause it never snows in southern California?
/
LOL
Poor Winston…He used to think that life was floating around the Swimming pool with daddy listening to music very loud and drinking cold beer…
Apparently there is this whole thing about ice and blizzards in Indiana…
Kicking the dog out to take a poop in the winter has become a real challenge..
Call me crazy but I think what Winston is saying with his eyes is you try taking a shit out here Hoopster…I swear I know where you keep your shoes..
219 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:23:06pm |
re: #208 jamesfirecat
Senator Byrd could tell you.
Hint: It’d be the opposite of an Uncle Tom, in his mind.
221 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:23:15pm |
all these thousands of posts…actually I’m not that politically inclined but for the hell of it I will take sides on some issues…but there are fundamental problems in politics at every level in this country….it seems to me that service is not the primary reason to seek office anymore…I’ve said a dozen times the best job in America is winning a congressional seat…once in, you really don’t have to stand for anything as long as you keep an eye on reelection…the nature of it is to forego the means as long as you reach the end for yourself…yourself…my problem is not so much with my nemesis, the liberals, it’s with the entire chain of command together with the fact that so many millions of moderate voters of both left and right don’t vote, either because they are too lazy or because they are totally turned off by the fringes that get all the airtime and dominate the MSM…elections and seats in govt are big business…a huge business that by nature does not reflect the will of the people, besides the fringe and stupified middle that gets them elected in the first place…govt is out of control, spending and taxation is out of control…it’s not left or right, it’s federal elected office…these people have hit the jackpot…trillions at stake, personalities to get airtime and influence to buy and sell…it’s not about representing and service, it’s all about money…our money…who has it, how do they get it and spend it, maneuver for reelection…over and over…they hold all the cards and deal them in their favor…it’s more of a game than service or leadership…America is a huge pot of money and fame waiting for the slickest, most clever suit to exploit it, and us
222 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:23:40pm |
re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t think it’s a compliment to anyone. Let’s put it like that.
I can’t even figure out how its suppose to be an insult… its like calling someone an Irish Kraut!
223 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:23:50pm |
re: #213 The Sanity Inspector
Back when the Jews ran Hollywood the music was GREAT.
This new Scientology management has only been able to produce…Lady GaGa!?
224 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:24:10pm |
re: #213 The Sanity Inspector
The Jews of those ancient days had imagination, they had dignity, they had ears for sweet sound, they had, above all, the faculty of grandeur. The stupendous music that issued from them has swept their barbaric demonology along with it, setting at naught the collective intelligence of the human species; they embalmed their idiotic taboos and fetishes in undying strains, and so gave them some measure of the same immortality. A race of lawgivers? Bosh! Leviticus is as archaic as the Code of Manu, and the Decalogue is a fossil. A race of seers? Bosh again! The God they saw survives only as a bogey-man, a theory, an uneasy and vexatious ghost. A race of traders and sharpers? Bosh a third time! The Jews are as poor as the Spaniards. But a race of poets, my lords, a race of poets! It is a vision of beauty that has ever haunted them. And it has been their destiny to transmit that vision, enfeebled, perhaps, but still distinct, to other and lesser peoples, that life might be made softer for the sons of men, and the goodness of the Lord God—whoever He may be—might not be forgotten.
— H. L. Mencken, Damn! A Book of Calumny, 1918
What an eloquent asshole.
225 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:24:30pm |
re: #205 Obdicut
There are so many great stories to be told about the captains and sergeants of the Red Army.
Have you read The Face of Battle, by the way?
Not yet. But John Keegan is a masterful writer. I own his book on World War One and it is superb.
226 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:24:35pm |
re: #221 albusteve
Now that’s a block of text! When someone says block, that’s what they’re talking about!
227 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:25:34pm |
re: #62 jamesfirecat
Granted he was one of the sane small government fiscal republicans who would fit in hear, so he was easy to get along with.
Friendly advice to a college student, here and hear have different meanings.
229 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:25:42pm |
re: #211 laZardo
I just watched that the other day. A big fan here. Oh geeze the Charlie Murphy bit on Rick James is some of the funniest TV ever.
230 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:25:45pm |
231 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:26:15pm |
re: #170 cliffster
I’m not worried. A hard-working bunch, those Mexicans. As soon as more of them start making a lot of money as is inevitable, the tides will turn ;)
That hasn’t been the case with blacks as more of them move into the middle class. And if anti-immigrant nativism rules the day with the GOP, they too will lose Latinos for a long time.
232 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:26:22pm |
233 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:26:40pm |
re: #227 Bagua
Friendly advice to a college student, here and hear have different meanings.
Thanks like I may have said before I’m horrible with homonyms and I get worse with them as the night goes on….
235 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:27:24pm |
re: #229 Mich-again
I just watched that the other day. A big fan here. Oh geeze the Charlie Murphy bit on Rick James is some of the funniest TV ever.
Cocaine is a helluvadrug.
236 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:27:41pm |
237 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:27:52pm |
re: #228 Racer X
Escher does photography!
238 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:27:52pm |
re: #225 Dark_Falcon
The Face of Battle really changed the entire way I approach military history. Reading it, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. Cannot overstate how good it is.
Also, for a single-volume book about WWII, I really really recommend amazon.com It emphasizes the mistakes, the errors, the weaknesses of the leaders in really interesting way. It basically shows you the limitation of their views, both in terms of the information they had available to them and their own personalities. He shows the fog of battle as it affected the generals, and evaluates a lot of missed opportunities in a way that’s not armchair generalship, but more “We do things differently today, precisely because of shit like this.”
239 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:27:59pm |
re: #216 Spare O’Lake
Good Evening LGF.
Good evening, and good evening to everyone else. Busted my ass today so I could work from home tomorrow. My car ain’t going anywhere.
240 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:28:10pm |
re: #221 albusteve
all of your posts are 1.5 lines long or less. where did this come from? Do you need a hug?
241 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:28:11pm |
re: #175 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes, I mean ’ in today’s politically correct climate’.
Way back when, years before 2000, Democrats and Republicans were even known to be friendly with one another, sometimes even on the floor of the House and Senate.
Gone are the days.
243 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:28:37pm |
245 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:28:53pm |
246 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:28:59pm |
re: #240 cliffster
It was a good rant.
248 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:29:37pm |
re: #239 soap_man
Good evening, and good evening to everyone else. Busted my ass today so I could work from home tomorrow. My car ain’t going anywhere.
Blizzard brewing! Send Beer!
/
249 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:30:03pm |
re: #235 laZardo
Cocaine is a helluvadrug.
“I wish I had more hands so I could give those titties 4 thumbs down.” ROFL.
250 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:30:07pm |
re: #209 Dark_Falcon
No, you aren’t. I became a fan late in the show’s second season and remained so till the end, with the exception of the next to last season, most of which I missed due to work.
Believe me, you didn’t miss much. Season Six was teh suck. That didn’t stop me collecting it on DVD, of course. I have an entire cabinet devoted to the glory of Joss Whedon.
251 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:30:11pm |
NASA Launches David Bowie Concept Mission
CAPE CANAVERAL, FL—NASA officials announced today the successful launch of the new shuttle Moonage Daydream, marking the beginning of a long-anticipated two-week conceptual mission inspired by British rock star David Bowie.
…
“These new suits are veneered with a protective silver lamé to complement the multicolored lightning bolts emblazoned across the helmets’ sun visors,” Ryschkewitsch said. “They’ve also been updated with several improved components to ensure the team is completely safe when it’s time to leave the capsule—if they dare.”
The five-member crew is made up entirely of United States Air Force officers and includes Maj. Tom Louis, Maj. Tom Greely, Maj. Tom Ohweiler, Maj. Thomas Sinclair, and Maj. Tom Keenan.
While the mission will primarily study paranoia, decadence, and the fluidity of sexual identity in a zero-gravity environment, additional scientific testing will be conducted during the shuttle’s 14-day orbit of Earth.
“One of the experiments we’re most excited about will address the effects of Mars-like conditions on several different species of arachnids,” NASA biologist Norman Stern said.
253 | Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:30:55pm |
re: #1 EmmmieG
Yeah! This same worm has been buying chocolate chocolate muffins at Costco and making me eat them.
Death to worms!
Usually hits me in the morning before I finish the first coffee or close the woot.com web page.
254 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:31:16pm |
re: #249 Mich-again
“I wish I had more hands so I could give those titties 4 thumbs down.” ROFL.
What did five fingers say to the face??
255 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:31:25pm |
re: #222 jamesfirecat
Not so much.
You’re…… very young, I think. Teens?
256 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:31:31pm |
257 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:31:58pm |
re: #241 tradewind
Yes, I mean ’ in today’s politically correct climate’.
Way back when, years before 2000, Democrats and Republicans were even known to be friendly with one another, sometimes even on the floor of the House and Senate.
Gone are the days.
I’m confused. Thurmond served until 2002. You feel something has changed in the last eight years that would make it impossible for an old Republican with a shameful Dixiecrat background to serve in the Senate? (Not that he’d be coming in as a new Senator, obviously.)
258 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:06pm |
re: #182 tradewind
It’s a start.
Obama is now whining about holds on nominees, when he did the very same thing as a Senator.
This is either great or terrible, depending on your partisan perspective.
In the long run, though, this whole practice of blocking qualified nominees is just one more example of a non-functioning govt. Both parties do it to each other and we end up with broken govt. Hooray?
259 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:11pm |
re: #238 Obdicut
The Face of Battle really changed the entire way I approach military history. Reading it, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. Cannot overstate how good it is.
Also, for a single-volume book about WWII, I really really recommend [Link: www.amazon.com…] It emphasizes the mistakes, the errors, the weaknesses of the leaders in really interesting way. It basically shows you the limitation of their views, both in terms of the information they had available to them and their own personalities. He shows the fog of battle as it affected the generals, and evaluates a lot of missed opportunities in a way that’s not armchair generalship, but more “We do things differently today, precisely because of shit like this.”
I’ve taken note of ‘Face of Battle’…I’m just finishing Bergerud’s ‘Touched With Fire’ about the ground war in the South Pacific…I look forward to this book you recommend so highly
260 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:17pm |
re: #195 Mich-again
Hello. Every good Democrat knows those two weren’t black enough. /
“Inauthentic” was the word the arbiters of such things used. I’d love to see those people sprint to their anxiety closets after browsing the opinions on offer at Booker Rising.
262 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:23pm |
re: #153 albusteve
yes, same thing I guess in that regard, but gays helped BO get elected and he’s turned his back on them…of course someone will dispute that
Oh, so just like the black-people-need-to-get-told-how-to-vote-by-the-white-man, gays need to get told how to vote by the straight man.
Cheers, you’ll forgive me if I don’t do a little song and a dance and take your sage advice to hate everything for no reason. You have Obama Derangement Syndrome worse than anyone else here.
263 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:26pm |
re: #248 HoosierHoops
Blizzard brewing! Send Beer!
/
I’m already hunkered down my friend. We have already got plenty, and it isn’t supposed to stop until tomorrow.
I was expecting this since we haven’t had a blizzard yet this season. I think we were due.
264 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:28pm |
re: #256 jamesfirecat
Still stupid of Byrd to use the term in an interview, and stupider still not to bother to explain what the term meant as part of his apology…
Ugly boiling up.
265 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:36pm |
re: #253 Naso Tang
Usually hits me in the morning before I finish the first coffee or close the woot.com web page.
Back when I used to drink copious amounts of beer on a pretty regular basis, that same worm would post here late at night using my nic!
266 | Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:32:58pm |
re: #259 albusteve
You’ll like it. It’s very ethically clear.
267 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:33:49pm |
re: #218 HoosierHoops
I have a pair of golden retrievers, same age….. one of them runs headlong into the snow and ice we’re afflicted with currently, and doesn’t even want to come in. The other one digs her feet in and doesn’t want anything to do with it.
Just like people.
268 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:34:27pm |
re: #255 tradewind
Not so much.
You’re… very young, I think. Teens?
21 Its just late at night, and I have ADHD and my meds have probably worn off by now….
270 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:34:43pm |
re: #258 palomino
Sometimes, given the way both parties have screwed things up lately, I’m convinced that gridlock is our friend.
272 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:35:06pm |
re: #244 tradewind
Lady GaGa.
I so wanted to not like her. Saw some bad press and an awful red thing she wore.
Then I saw a video that was this controversial wardrobe malfunction. Yawn. But that clip has her talking to her fans at this dirty outdoor arena. Taking to them straight and honest about how cold and muddy is just “suffering for your music”, which I do understand.
Yes we music fans will stand in line hot or cold, dirty, drunk, hung over. But we stand and listen and take it all in. I hate her fashion. Her music leaves me cold. I’m no Euro techno fan. But her attitude as to her fans- Beat every punk ass arrogant guitar dude I ever saw at a club.
274 | Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:35:27pm |
re: #265 Mich-again
Back when I used to drink copious amounts of beer on a pretty regular basis, that same worm would post here late at night using my nic!
I think that may have happened to me. Luckily nobody noticed.
275 | A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:35:40pm |
re: #263 soap_man
I’m already hunkered down my friend. We have already got plenty, and it isn’t supposed to stop until tomorrow.
I was expecting this since we haven’t had a blizzard yet this season. I think we were due.
Pisses me off.. We have been getting slammed and more is to come.. All I asked this year. . Just once in my life.. Was a White Christmas..
I’m still dreaming of a white Christmas….
Just like the kind I’ve never known
276 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:35:51pm |
re: #267 tradewind
I have a pair of golden retrievers, same age… one of them runs headlong into the snow and ice we’re afflicted with currently, and doesn’t even want to come in. The other one digs her feet in and doesn’t want anything to do with it.
Just like people.
Our German Shepherd mix loved COLD weather. It was the wolf blood, I think. He would try to take incredibly long walks on these mornings when the wind was blowing, and you were about to die.
I always swore that if dogs could sing he would be doing “Oh What A Beautiful Morning”.
277 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:36:00pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
That’s a compliment, you know. A few more meanest moms, and the country would be in much better shape.
278 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:36:34pm |
A WOMAN’S POEM:
Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man who’s not a creep,
One who’s handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who’ll call, not wait for weeks
.
I pray he’s rich and self-employed,
And when I spend, won’t be annoyed.
Pull out my chair and hold my hand.
Massage my feet and help me stand.
Oh send a king to make me queen.
A man who loves to cook and clean.
I pray this man will love no other.
And relish visits with my mother.
A MAN’S POEM:
I pray for a deaf-mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
big tits who owns a bar on a golf course,
and loves to send me fishing and drinking. This
doesn’t rhyme and I don’t give a shit
280 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:37:21pm |
re: #239 soap_man
Good evening, and good evening to everyone else. Busted my ass today so I could work from home tomorrow. My car ain’t going anywhere.
I left work early just so I could get home at a decent hour. I needn’t have worried, the bus was on time. Say what you will about Cook County, but the roads do get plowed and salted correctly around here.
281 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:37:35pm |
282 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:37:49pm |
re: #262 WindUpBird
Oh, so just like the black-people-need-to-get-told-how-to-vote-by-the-w hite-man, gays need to get told how to vote by the straight man.
Cheers, you’ll forgive me if I don’t do a little song and a dance and take your sage advice to hate everything for no reason. You have Obama Derangement Syndrome worse than anyone else here.
your posts are make believe to serve your own purpose…I have not suggest how gays should vote…but I enjoy your entertainment, sometimes
283 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:03pm |
re: #272 Rightwingconspirator
I like her music. I listen to anything and everything and her music is very entertaining. Shes a star among stars. Thanks to my 12 YO daughter for keeping me up to date on the latest music. I like that “How low can you go?” song by Ludicris too. ha. cracks me up.
284 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:06pm |
285 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:17pm |
re: #241 tradewind
Yes, I mean ’ in today’s politically correct climate’.
Way back when, years before 2000, Democrats and Republicans were even known to be friendly with one another, sometimes even on the floor of the House and Senate.
Gone are the days.
Also gone (or going at least) are the days of a govt. that actually functions. Entitlements, healthcare, immigration, changing global economy—these will eventually turn into crises.
But maybe we shouldn’t worry. America has historically been at its best during times of crisis. Everything’s great/
286 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:24pm |
re: #191 The Sanity Inspector
Well, look how much the left respected Condi Rice and Colin Powell, during the administration of President Satan Incarnate.
What left are you talking about? Code Pink left? ANSWER left? Dude who makes dreamcatchers in Lahoya out of his Winnebago left? All my friends are hardcore Democrats and they loved Colin Powell. They wanted him to run in 2000, because they didn’t like Gore’s wooden-wonk act. And Condi was considered by all of my LEFTY MC LEFTERSON SATANIC SOCIALIST BILL AYERS LEFTYFRIENDS to be very smart, very knowledgable, very academic, and the clear intellectual superior of almost everyone else in Bush’s cabinet, including Bush himself. And of course she was mimimized and marginalized by Cheney and company.
But just keep on putting words into our mouths. Keep on pretending. Sheesh. 9_9 How come I’m a die-hard Democrat voter and a liberal and I never seen to fill any of these goofyassed stereotypes?
287 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:49pm |
re: #273 tradewind
/I was pretty close/
If it makes you feel better I haven’t changed all that much in my political views since I was 18. The only difference is that 19 I felt I couldn’t be bothered to vote in the midterms (I’m from Maryland its not like it needs one more democratic voter…) and at 20 I just barely managed to get my absentee ballot in the mail in time for it never to be opened since Maryland wasn’t even close….
Once I actually experience the harsh cold world outside of the dorm room I’ll probably shed some of my idealism….
288 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:53pm |
re: #266 Obdicut
You’ll like it. It’s very ethically clear.
I’m juiced, if you let me down I’m gonna chase you for it
289 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:38:59pm |
re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist
So I have one wuss and one ski bum. I still can’t figure out how he can stand there on the ice and snow without his paws freezing off.
290 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:40:25pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
The Meanest Mom in the World is going to bed.
Give the poor little victim a hug.
291 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:40:53pm |
re: #286 WindUpBird
But just keep on putting words into our mouths. Keep on pretending. Sheesh. 9_9 How come I’m a die-hard Democrat voter and a liberal and I never seen to fill any of these goofyassed stereotypes?
I offer a series of workshops, if you’re interested.
292 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:40:55pm |
re: #285 palomino
Also gone (or going at least) are the days of a govt. that actually functions. Entitlements, healthcare, immigration, changing global economy—these will eventually turn into crises.
But maybe we shouldn’t worry. America has historically been at its best during times of crisis. Everything’s great/
Once a problem becomes so horrible that we can no longer ignore it, we’ll solve it.
Its sort of like in those Japanese monster plans, we need to get curb stomped for a while before we feel things can’t get worse and call in Godzilla…
293 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:40:58pm |
re: #224 Alouette
What an eloquent asshole.
re: #224 Alouette
What an eloquent asshole.
That’s pretty much Mencken in a nutshell. However one may laugh at his caustic wit, one’s own turn in the cross hairs is not long coming. In my case, as a Southerner, it was The Sahara of the Bozart. Ouch.
A few years ago, I put together a string of posts themed Nice Things Said About Jews, which I invite you to scroll down and browse.
294 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:41:25pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
The Meanest Mom in the World is going to bed.
“But all the other kids get to watch Family Guy!”
295 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:41:40pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
The Meanest Mom in the World is going to bed.
Mean Moms need to recharge overnight to go on to fight the good fight another day. Here’s to an even meaner mom on the morrow.
296 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:42:15pm |
re: #292 jamesfirecat
Once a problem becomes so horrible that we can no longer ignore it, we’ll solve it.
Its sort of like in those Japanese monster plans, we need to get curb stomped for a while before we feel things can’t get worse and call in Godzilla…
by the time you reach 25yrs old things start to clear up, if you pay attention
297 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:42:34pm |
re: #287 jamesfirecat
You ‘ll probably hang on to it until you have a mortgage and/or you can see the deductions itemized on your w-2.
It’ll be fun when the light snaps on.
298 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:43:01pm |
re: #287 jamesfirecat
Yeah, you probably will. Just limit it to some. Thats the hard part. Both sides of the aisle can use some of that. Not too much just a strong tether to ethics.
299 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:43:21pm |
has anybody watched the ‘Hurt Locker’?…I rented it
301 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:11pm |
re: #289 tradewind
So I have one wuss and one ski bum. I still can’t figure out how he can stand there on the ice and snow without his paws freezing off.
ski bum!…
302 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:18pm |
re: #233 jamesfirecat
Thanks like I may have said before I’m horrible with homonyms and I get worse with them as the night goes on…
No not horrible rather you are adopting a learned helplessness that is a form of avoidance. All you need is a little curiosity to think about the word when you write it, soon you will no longer be ‘horrible’.
303 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:26pm |
re: #280 Dark_Falcon
I left work early just so I could get home at a decent hour. I needn’t have worried, the bus was on time. Say what you will about Cook County, but the roads do get plowed and salted correctly around here.
I live in Cook and work in DuPage. It is interesting that the two are microcosms of Democratic v. Republican.
In Cook, the tax rates are outrageous and the budget is out of control, but the city services kick ass. The streets are plowed and the public transportation is pretty good (not great, but good.) In DuPage, the taxes are incredibly low and they run a lean government, but the government services are awful. The streets are a mess in even light snow and you can’t get around via bus if your life depended on it.
I would like the choice to be that simple on a national level. But it isn’t.
304 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:46pm |
re: #297 tradewind
You ‘ll probably hang on to it until you have a mortgage and/or you can see the deductions itemized on your w-2.
It’ll be fun when the light snaps on.
I’m sure it’ll be just like that Zit’s cartoon that I saddly can’t find a link to at the moment
“I think we’re witnessing the birth of a Republican!”
305 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:56pm |
re: #296 albusteve
by the time you reach 25yrs old things start to clear up, if you pay attention
right, getting married, having kids, paying a mortgage and being stressed over work—-clears things right up/
306 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:58pm |
re: #291 SanFranciscoZionist
I offer a series of workshops, if you’re interested.
Where do I sign up? Can I take them on line?
Are there…,,,…tests?
307 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:44:59pm |
re: #299 albusteve
has anybody watched the ‘Hurt Locker’?…I rented it
Just saw it a few days ago. Thought is was fantastic.
308 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:45:06pm |
re: #227 Bagua
Friendly advice to a college student, here and hear have different meanings.
These threads move too quick to get all nitpicky with spelling and homonyms. If anyone jumps on me for my spelling, I’m going to mercilessly mock them, and also invite them to type on a laptop with a keyboard 2/3rds the size of a normal keyboard, often in low light, on a 5 year old Pentium M that often chokes on LGF during long threads, freezes randomly, queuing up entire sentences and spitting them out on great digital gobbets.
Oh yeah, and whoever got all snarkass on James for not using the spellchecker? Weak sauce. Spellchecker takes almost 15 seconds just to even show up on the screen after I click it, depending on what other programs I have running. I’ve never used it for that reason.
309 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:45:06pm |
re: #259 albusteve
I’ve taken note of ‘Face of Battle’…I’m just finishing Bergerud’s ‘Touched With Fire’ about the ground war in the South Pacific…I look forward to this book you recommend so highly
I thought Bergerud’s _Fire In the Sky_ was a much better volume. Better writing and in my opinion a better overview of the New Guinea and Solomons areas in WW2.
Keegan’s single volume _The Second World War_ I also thought was a good coverage of a very complex period. Which really can not get much more than an overview and some picked asides in a single volume anyways.
Anyone have any suggestions for books centering on the PTO? I’ve read a few, but was curious what else others would suggest.
310 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:45:43pm |
re: #295 Silvergirl
Mean Moms need to recharge overnight to go on to fight the good fight another day. Here’s to an even meaner mom on the morrow.
My little girl is sick tonight. I think it’s croup. This is seriously around 10 times in the last 2 months that she’s been sick. I’m really second-guessing this pre-school thing. Make her independent, teach her how to socialize, yada yada. Fuck that, she’s 3 days on, 1 day off when it comes to the sick.
311 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:45:45pm |
re: #291 SanFranciscoZionist
I offer a series of workshops, if you’re interested.
Is that where I learn how to make my own Code Pink turtle costume? :D
312 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:46:03pm |
re: #305 palomino
right, getting married, having kids, paying a mortgage and being stressed over work—-clears things right up/
well maybe not…lets say it alters the landscape
313 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:46:09pm |
re: #299 albusteve
Loved it. The best Iraq war movie ever. well, so far. I want that woman to get Best Director. Her ex hubbie can win something, anything else for his masterpiece AVATAR.
314 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:46:21pm |
re: #299 albusteve
has anybody watched the ‘Hurt Locker’?…I rented it
Very good movie. I highly reccomend it.
315 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:46:23pm |
re: #299 albusteve
has anybody watched the ‘Hurt Locker’?…I rented it
I watched part of it. I thought it sucked. It was a generic renegade story like Top Gun or Lethal Weapon. Stupid, vapid completely unrealistic and uninteresting. I just didn’t get it.
316 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:46:49pm |
re: #286 WindUpBird
And Condi was considered by all of my LEFTY MC LEFTERSON SATANIC SOCIALIST BILL AYERS LEFTYFRIENDS to be very smart, very knowledgable, very academic, and the clear intellectual superior of almost everyone else in Bush’s cabinet, including Bush himself.
Just wondering what color is the sky in your world?
317 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:47:03pm |
re: #307 soap_man
Just saw it a few days ago. Thought is was fantastic.
that’s what I’ve heard…coming soon to a theater near me
318 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:47:32pm |
319 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:47:46pm |
re: #297 tradewind
I like your style of conservative. Old school Lizard?
320 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:47:52pm |
re: #299 albusteve
Yes! Hurt Locker is brilliant. Some review I cannot find got the feedback of real army dudes who did what the guys in the movie did. They said it was as real as any war movie ever (maybe better, maybe even with Das Boot.) They quibbled about only some small technical details like the gun fight and ranges and nit picky things.
It is better than AVatar, and I loved Avatar, though that is like comparing an enormous shiny apple to the most seedless and juiciest orangest orange ever, both served to you by a naked Navi of whatever sex you prefer.
321 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:48:05pm |
re: #310 cliffster
She’ll be immune to all of it, later. She’s just getting slammed at the moment! Hang in there!
322 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:48:26pm |
re: #316 Mich-again
Just wondering what color is the sky in your world?
Right now it’s black. 847Pm, Portland, Oregon. I’d check the weather, but that’d probably crash my browser.
You really honestly deny that some liberals really dug Condi? You really actually deny that? With a straight face?
323 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:48:31pm |
re: #307 soap_man
Just saw it a few days ago. Thought is was fantastic.
re: #314 Kruk
Very good movie. I highly reccomend it.
re: #315 Killgore Trout
I watched part of it. I thought it sucked. It was a generic renegade story like Top Gun or Lethal Weapon. Stupid, vapid completely unrealistic and uninteresting. I just didn’t get it.
Well, that proves that there’s no accounting for taste.
324 | tradewind Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:48:41pm |
Goodnight, ya’ll …..love this traveling music….
Youtube Video
326 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:10pm |
re: #299 albusteve
has anybody watched the ‘Hurt Locker’?…I rented it
I watched it with my son. An above-average war flick, but not great.
327 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:20pm |
re: #322 WindUpBird
Right now it’s black. 847Pm, Portland, Oregon. I’d check the weather, but that’d probably crash my browser.
You really honestly deny that some liberals really dug Condi? You really actually deny that? With a straight face?
I dug Condi. I dug Powell too.
328 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:23pm |
re: #313 Rightwingconspirator
Loved it. The best Iraq war movie ever. well, so far. I want that woman to get Best Director. Her ex hubbie can win something, anything else for his masterpiece AVATAR.
Well, if he doesn’t win anything, he can always drown his sorrows with a 2 billion dollar bottle of scotch.
329 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:36pm |
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Well, that proves that there’s no accounting for taste.
I tend to like tasteless film. Tokyo Gore Police, that movie will show you things.
330 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:47pm |
Blegh!!! All these unwarranted accolades for “Lady Gaga” (omgwtfsrsly?) compel me to (re)post the following:
and
Youtube Video
and!
Youtube Video
“Lady Gaga” has a publicity machine that spends more in a month than most Americans earn in 3 or 4 years. I guess it should be no surprise that some people are fooled.
331 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:51pm |
332 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:49:56pm |
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Heh. Avatar doesn’t even look interesting enough to me to download a bootleg. I might watch it if it was shown on a flight or something.
333 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:50:06pm |
re: #309 oaktree
I thought Bergerud’s _Fire In the Sky_ was a much better volume. Better writing and in my opinion a better overview of the New Guinea and Solomons areas in WW2.
Keegan’s single volume _The Second World War_ I also thought was a good coverage of a very complex period. Which really can not get much more than an overview and some picked asides in a single volume anyways.
Anyone have any suggestions for books centering on the PTO? I’ve read a few, but was curious what else others would suggest.
I lke the guy so far..he has a work on the Viet Nam era,’ Red Thunder, Tropical Lightning’ that i will hunt down…I like his style very much
334 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:50:15pm |
re: #327 marjoriemoon
I dug Condi. I dug Powell too.
WE DON’T EXIST!
*vanishes like Michael J Fox’s parents*
336 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:50:44pm |
337 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:50:51pm |
When I was 25 I woke up one morning and looked around at the stems and seeds and empty beer cans. I looked at all of the junk mail for Greenpiece, WWF, Sierra Club and others looking to pickpocket me some more. I looked at my neighbors with nice cars and homes and jet-ski’s and boats. And I decided to become what I loathed the most. A capitalist.
Best move I ever made.
338 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:50:58pm |
re: #334 WindUpBird
WE DON’T EXIST!
*vanishes like Michael J Fox’s parents*
I think you mean his brother and his sister, at least if we’re talking about the movie I think you are…..
339 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:51:01pm |
re: #308 WindUpBird
These threads move too quick to get all nitpicky with spelling and homonyms.
Haters. ):
340 | The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:51:24pm |
re: #310 cliffster
My little girl is sick tonight. I think it’s croup. This is seriously around 10 times in the last 2 months that she’s been sick. I’m really second-guessing this pre-school thing. Make her independent, teach her how to socialize, yada yada. Fuck that, she’s 3 days on, 1 day off when it comes to the sick.
Sorry she is feeling tough Cliffster. My 5 year old grandaughter has been sick for months it seems - pre-school and tons of activities. She even went through the H1V1 thing…when feeling well enough to return to school her teacher reported that she stood up in front of her classmates, hands on hips and demanded to know “ok, right now, who gave this to me?!” LOL
341 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:51:28pm |
re: #315 Killgore Trout
I disagree with the Top Gun comparison. The protagonist may be stubborn like the Cruise character in TG, but he’s not presented as some sort of hunky poster boy hero.
Indeed, Bigelow makes him a very problematic figure filled with self-destructive tendencies. And the movie doesn’t really come across as pro-war.
342 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:51:38pm |
re: #313 Rightwingconspirator
Loved it. The best Iraq war movie ever. well, so far. I want that woman to get Best Director. Her ex hubbie can win something, anything else for his masterpiece AVATAR.
Not the best movie of the year IMO, but the directing was phenomenal. And yes, it is the best Iraq movie, but there is very little competition in that category.
343 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:51:42pm |
re: #315 Killgore Trout
I watched part of it. I thought it sucked. It was a generic renegade story like Top Gun or Lethal Weapon. Stupid, vapid completely unrealistic and uninteresting. I just didn’t get it.
well that’s certainly a contrast to think about…we’ll see here in a bit
344 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:52:08pm |
re: #332 Killgore Trout
Heh. Avatar doesn’t even look interesting enough to me to download a bootleg. I might watch it if it was shown on a flight or something.
Don’t say that, KT. I’m going to see it with my wife this Friday as an ersatz v-day. Two little ones.. I get to see a movie with my spouse once every, oh, 5 months. Avatar will be awesome.
345 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:52:14pm |
re: #332 Killgore Trout
Heh. Avatar doesn’t even look interesting enough to me to download a bootleg. I might watch it if it was shown on a flight or something.
Supposedly Avatar is aimed right at me, being a big CGI epic with sexay blue alien people. I could not care less.
New Christopher Nolan film? i’m there. New Hughes Brothers film? i’m there. Alice in Wonderland by Tim Burton. i’m SO THERE. Hurt Locker does not look interesting to me at all. Neither does Avatar.
346 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:52:16pm |
re: #299 albusteve
has anybody watched the ‘Hurt Locker’?…I rented it
Good choice. I saw it and give it top honors. It’s not your typical “war movie.”
347 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:52:18pm |
348 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:52:58pm |
re: #332 Killgore Trout
Bootleg movies takes food off the plates of people close to me. I humbly suggest we refrain from bootleg movies and music.
349 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:53:06pm |
re: #337 Racer X
When I was 25 I woke up one morning and looked around at the stems and seeds and empty beer cans. I looked at all of the junk mail for Greenpiece, WWF, Sierra Club and others looking to pickpocket me some more. I looked at my neighbors with nice cars and homes and jet-ski’s and boats. And I decided to become what I loathed the most. A capitalist.
Best move I ever made.
I know I won’t have the exact same conversion because I’m already too much of a cheap bastard to even think about having an expensive vice like drinking or smoking.
That’s the upside to my generation, we come with materialism stamped right in the mold!
350 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:53:17pm |
re: #334 WindUpBird
I’ll admit to my shame, that I enjoyed the “Its time to get Condi a man” series they ran in The Boondocks back in 2k3.
I liked her, it was just too funny >
/I also like Powell, altho’ I feel bad for the trashing he took.
351 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:53:28pm |
re: #322 WindUpBird
You really honestly deny that some liberals really dug Condi?
First you said all your friends are hardcore Democrats, then you said all your lefty friends dug Condi. I find it ridiculous for you to claim how all your friends who happen to be hardcore democrats loved Powell and Condi. Yeah right.
353 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:53:56pm |
re: #348 Rightwingconspirator
Bootleg movies takes food off the plates of people close to me. I humbly suggest we refrain from bootleg movies and music.
I only bootleg British cooking shows. If they made them available to me I might pay but that’s not an option.
354 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:54:27pm |
re: #351 Mich-again
First you said all your friends are hardcore Democrats, then you said all your lefty friends dug Condi. I find it ridiculous for you to claim how all your friends who happen to be hardcore democrats loved Powell and Condi. Yeah right.
A lot of the Dems I know liked Condi. Or, at the very least, they respected her.
355 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:54:36pm |
re: #320 keloyd
Yes! Hurt Locker is brilliant. Some review I cannot find got the feedback of real army dudes who did what the guys in the movie did. They said it was as real as any war movie ever (maybe better, maybe even with Das Boot.) They quibbled about only some small technical details like the gun fight and ranges and nit picky things.
It is better than AVatar, and I loved Avatar, though that is like comparing an enormous shiny apple to the most seedless and juiciest orangest orange ever, both served to you by a naked Navi of whatever sex you prefer.
Das Boot was a hell of a movie…I really liked that one…I have not seen Avatar, not at all caught up in the hype
356 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:54:48pm |
re: #334 WindUpBird
WE DON’T EXIST!
*vanishes like Michael J Fox’s parents*
Maybe it’s late, but you lost me on that last reference.
I liked Condi and believed her when she said we had a clear exit strategy. Then, not so much. But I’ve always had a huge amount of respect for her. Much more than most politicians. I’ve said that here a number of times.
Powell didn’t want the job POTUS. I don’t know if he would have made a good president, but it would have been interesting to see.
357 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:54:59pm |
re: #351 Mich-again
because the right knows the left better than they know themselves.
Just like the gays I guess >>
358 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:38pm |
re: #322 WindUpBird
Right now it’s black. 847Pm, Portland, Oregon. I’d check the weather, but that’d probably crash my browser.
You really honestly deny that some liberals really dug Condi? You really actually deny that? With a straight face?
42 degrees.
359 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:40pm |
re: #355 albusteve
Das Boot was a hell of a movie…I really liked that one…I have not seen Avatar, not at all caught up in the hype
The same director did a movie on Stalingrad. Very much worth watching but not many war movies can beat Das Boot.
360 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:44pm |
re: #308 WindUpBird
These threads move too quick to get all nitpicky with spelling and homonyms…
You are not a college student making a repetitive mistake, also a typo is different and many pedants will not point them out as they are more a malfunction than a mistake.
361 | The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:48pm |
re: #354 soap_man
A lot of the Dems I know liked Condi. Or, at the very least, they respected her.
Subject to instant reevaluation had she decided to run for office of any kind.
362 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:49pm |
re: #351 Mich-again
First you said all your friends are hardcore Democrats, then you said all your lefty friends dug Condi. I find it ridiculous for you to claim how all your friends who happen to be hardcore democrats loved Powell and Condi. Yeah right.
I guess it’s how you define hardcore. I’ve never voted for a Republican or Independent. I’ve been to a number of rallies. Is that hardcore? Or just medium core? lol
363 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:55pm |
re: #306 Floral Giraffe
Where do I sign up? Can I take them on line?
Are there…,,,…tests?
Tests are, like, totally culturally determined, dude. We prefer a more holistic assessment of how you’re doing as you move toward becoming a stereotypical liberal.
But I will say that if you have more than five anti-war bumper stickers on your hybrid, it’s a good sign.
364 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:55:56pm |
re: #337 Racer X
When I was 25 I woke up one morning and looked around at the stems and seeds and empty beer cans. I looked at all of the junk mail for Greenpiece, WWF, Sierra Club and others looking to pickpocket me some more. I looked at my neighbors with nice cars and homes and jet-ski’s and boats. And I decided to become what I loathed the most. A capitalist.
Best move I ever made.
I’m an entrepreneur, a liberal, and I have two nice cars, one of which likes to embarrass muscle cars at stoplights. Though I hate the water, so I’m not buying a boat. And I made a great deal of this money with my own two hands, selling stuff I made (some of it digitally) to people for money. Capitalism!
365 | zora Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:56:07pm |
re: #322 WindUpBird
Right now it’s black. 847Pm, Portland, Oregon. I’d check the weather, but that’d probably crash my browser.
You really honestly deny that some liberals really dug Condi? You really actually deny that? With a straight face?
Liked Powell and Rice. Read Condi’s biography. I hope she is the NFL commissioner someday. Oh and I’m a lib.
366 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:56:09pm |
re: #348 Rightwingconspirator
Bootleg movies takes food off the plates of people close to me. I humbly suggest we refrain from bootleg movies and music.
I agree entirely.
367 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:56:54pm |
re: #310 cliffster
My little girl is sick tonight. I think it’s croup. This is seriously around 10 times in the last 2 months that she’s been sick. I’m really second-guessing this pre-school thing. Make her independent, teach her how to socialize, yada yada. Fuck that, she’s 3 days on, 1 day off when it comes to the sick.
Not uncommon.
On the other hand, her immune system is probably toughening right up.
Does she like pre-school? Are there other places she could do socializing?
368 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:56:56pm |
re: #356 marjoriemoon
Maybe it’s late, but you lost me on that last reference.
Back To The Future. Micheal J. Fox’s character goes back in time, and screws the timeline up so that his parents never meet.
369 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:57:25pm |
re: #345 WindUpBird
Supposedly Avatar is aimed right at me, being a big CGI epic with sexay blue alien people. I could not care less.
New Christopher Nolan film? i’m there. New Hughes Brothers film? i’m there. Alice in Wonderland by Tim Burton. i’m SO THERE. Hurt Locker does not look interesting to me at all. Neither does Avatar.
I’m about the only person I know that hasn’t watched Avatar.
Or any of the Twilight movies.
370 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:57:30pm |
re: #311 WindUpBird
Is that where I learn how to make my own Code Pink turtle costume? :D
We also offer a class where you can make a Grieving Palestinian Mother Puppet.
371 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:57:49pm |
Hey Night Lizards!
How are you-all this night? Yes, we have snow in Chicagoland.
372 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:57:55pm |
re: #354 soap_man
My problem with that was that when I questioned if all the friends really supported Powell and Condi, the reply was that I was doubting that some supported them. Oh I’m sure some supported them. But thats why all and some are two different words.
373 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:57:56pm |
re: #360 Bagua
You are not a college student making a repetitive mistake, also a typo is different and many pedants will not point them out as they are more a malfunction than a mistake.
Well you can take comfort in the fact that spend much more time [roofreading my papers/homework than I do my posts on this form.
374 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:57:57pm |
re: #369 laZardo
apparently theres a bunch of us on here for which both of those statements are true :)
375 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:58:09pm |
re: #337 Racer X
When I was 25 I woke up one morning and looked around at the stems and seeds and empty beer cans. I looked at all of the junk mail for Greenpiece, WWF, Sierra Club and others looking to pickpocket me some more. I looked at my neighbors with nice cars and homes and jet-ski’s and boats. And I decided to become what I loathed the most. A capitalist.
Best move I ever made.
NOOO! You got dragged into Room 101 and indoctrinated into THE SYSTEM!
376 | PT Barnum Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:58:28pm |
re: #369 laZardo
I’m about the only person I know that hasn’t watched Avatar.
Or any of the Twilight movies.
I didn’t other with the Twilight movies, primarily because I don’t have a tweenage daughter.
Avatar was exceedingly cool…
377 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:58:30pm |
re: #369 laZardo
I’m about the only person I know that hasn’t watched Avatar.
Or any of the Twilight movies.
Blasphemous!
378 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:58:34pm |
re: #320 keloyd
Yes! Hurt Locker is brilliant. Some review I cannot find got the feedback of real army dudes who did what the guys in the movie did. They said it was as real as any war movie ever (maybe better, maybe even with Das Boot.) They quibbled about only some small technical details like the gun fight and ranges and nit picky things.
It is better than AVatar, and I loved Avatar, though that is like comparing an enormous shiny apple to the most seedless and juiciest orangest orange ever, both served to you by a naked Navi of whatever sex you prefer.
After I watched it, I googled the reviews and stumbled upon an asinine review on HuffPo. The reviewer, and all those who commented, tore it apart for little details here in there. But what they were really saying “I am shocked, shocked I say, that someone made a movie about Iraq that is not critical of the politics. I’m deeply offended.”
And then their monocles fell out in all of their horror.
379 | The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:58:35pm |
re: #359 Killgore Trout
The same director did a movie on Stalingrad. Very much worth watching but not many war movies can beat Das Boot.
Father Goose with Cary Grant and Leslie Caron…
380 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:59:23pm |
re: #363 SanFranciscoZionist
Tests are, like, totally culturally determined, dude. We prefer a more holistic assessment of how you’re doing as you move toward becoming a stereotypical liberal.
But I will say that if you have more than five anti-war bumper stickers on your hybrid, it’s a good sign.
ugh hybrids *shudder*
381 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:59:39pm |
re: #368 Kruk
Back To The Future. Micheal J. Fox’s character goes back in time, and screws the timeline up so that his parents never meet.
But as I pointed out, its not that his parents vanish because of it, but his brother and sister vanish from a family photo taken of all three of them.
382 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:59:44pm |
re: #372 Mich-again
My problem with that was that when I questioned if all the friends really supported Powell and Condi, the reply was that I was doubting that some supported them. Oh I’m sure some supported them. But thats why all and some are two different words.
Supported politically, no. But liked and respected. What do you want from an opposing party? Are there any Dems you feel that way about? It’s not really very usual thing.
383 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:59:47pm |
re: #373 jamesfirecat
Well you can take comfort in the fact that spend much more time [roofreading my papers/homework than I do my posts on this form.
PIMF! roofreading your papers? LOL.
384 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:59:48pm |
re: #365 zora
Liked Powell and Rice. Read Condi’s biography. I hope she is the NFL commissioner someday. Oh and I’m a lib.
You don’t exist either! *falls through wormhole*
385 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:59:54pm |
387 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:00:11pm |
re: #365 zora
Liked Powell and Rice. Read Condi’s biography. I hope she is the NFL commissioner someday. Oh and I’m a lib.
I read Powell’s biography and respect him tremendously. Same with Condi. A stint in the State Department seems to ruin everybody’s rep. Wonder what it will do to Hillary?
388 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:00:16pm |
re: #367 SanFranciscoZionist
Not uncommon.
On the other hand, her immune system is probably toughening right up.
Does she like pre-school? Are there other places she could do socializing?
I hope you’re right. As to whether she likes it, she goes Tuesday thru Thursday. Every morning, she wakes up and immediately asks, “am I going to school today???” Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday we have to let her down gently.
389 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:00:19pm |
re: #360 Bagua
You are not a college student making a repetitive mistake, also a typo is different and many pedants will not point them out as they are more a malfunction than a mistake.
Very good, precise definition, Bagua.
390 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:00:31pm |
re: #316 Mich-again
Just wondering what color is the sky in your world?
Blue 340 days per year. Why do you think people live here in So Cal?
As for Condi and especially Powell, they may have been the only ones, but quite a few liberals actually did respect them.
391 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:00:43pm |
re: #359 Killgore Trout
The same director did a movie on Stalingrad. Very much worth watching but not many war movies can beat Das Boot.
Stalingrad?…from the book ‘War of the Rats’?…the sniper movie?, I saw it…very good if it’s the same one
392 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:01:06pm |
re: #304 jamesfirecat
I’m sure it’ll be just like that Zit’s cartoon that I saddly can’t find a link to at the moment
“I think we’re witnessing the birth of a Republican!”
Let all that come in the fullness of time.
Don’t try to live your life in one day
Don’t go speed your time away
393 | What, me worry? Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:01:17pm |
It’s midnight and I’ve turned into a pumpkin. See ya’ll later :)
394 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:01:26pm |
re: #357 windsagio
because the right knows the left better than they know themselves.
Just like the gays I guess
I only read what they say.
395 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:02:26pm |
re: #386 PT Barnum
The Tesla Roadster goes 0 to 60 in 4 seconds..
396 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:02:39pm |
re: #383 Rightwingconspirator
PIMF! roofreading your papers? LOL.
Yeah, like I said I can deal with that kind of problem reel (WINK) well when I’m willing to put the time into it….
397 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:15pm |
re: #396 jamesfirecat
on my last post I almost put “when the breaks work” just for you :)
398 | Irenicum Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:18pm |
Yep. It’s late. Guinness has taken its toll. In other words, it’s made life better (momentarily). But then again I’m Maudite, so who knows? G’nite gang. Be well and be blessed.
399 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:25pm |
re: #387 ggt
I read Powell’s biography and respect him tremendously. Same with Condi. A stint in the State Department seems to ruin everybody’s rep. Wonder what it will do to Hillary?
Another stint in the Oval Office?
400 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:37pm |
re: #360 Bagua
You are not a college student making a repetitive mistake, also a typo is different and many pedants will not point them out as they are more a malfunction than a mistake.
I have dyslexia and make typos quite often. It’s kind of embarrassing, but it happens.
401 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:42pm |
re: #363 SanFranciscoZionist
Tests are, like, totally culturally determined, dude. We prefer a more holistic assessment of how you’re doing as you move toward becoming a stereotypical liberal.
But I will say that if you have more than five anti-war bumper stickers on your hybrid, it’s a good sign.
Must be a Prius. If you drive a Lexus GS450h, you’re a poser.
402 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:47pm |
re: #337 Racer X
When I was 25 I woke up one morning and looked around at the stems and seeds and empty beer cans. I looked at all of the junk mail for Greenpiece, WWF, Sierra Club and others looking to pickpocket me some more. I looked at my neighbors with nice cars and homes and jet-ski’s and boats. And I decided to become what I loathed the most. A capitalist.
Best move I ever made.
You read any PJ O’Rourke?
403 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:03:59pm |
re: #378 soap_man
After I watched it, I googled the reviews and stumbled upon an asinine review on HuffPo. The reviewer, and all those who commented, tore it apart for little details here in there. But what they were really saying “I am shocked, shocked I say, that someone made a movie about Iraq that is not critical of the politics. I’m deeply offended.”
And then their monocles fell out in all of their horror.
The HuffPo still has a fair number of lefty assholes like that.
Note: Not all liberals are assholes, but the sort of doctrinaire liberals described by soap_man are often assholes
404 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:03pm |
re: #373 jamesfirecat
Well you can take comfort in the fact that spend much more time [roofreading my papers/homework than I do my posts on this form.
Now that’s a typo and needs no pointing out.
405 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:06pm |
re: #364 WindUpBird
I’m an entrepreneur, a liberal, and I have two nice cars, one of which likes to embarrass muscle cars at stoplights. Though I hate the water, so I’m not buying a boat. And I made a great deal of this money with my own two hands, selling stuff I made (some of it digitally) to people for money. Capitalism!
boats are good for having sex on them…otherwise they are a big hassel…I had a 26ft Hunter for a few years….I was always horny when I got near that thing
406 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:09pm |
re: #351 Mich-again
First you said all your friends are hardcore Democrats, then you said all your lefty friends dug Condi. I find it ridiculous for you to claim how all your friends who happen to be hardcore democrats loved Powell and Condi. Yeah right.
I knew and know a lot of ‘hardcore Democrats’, my own parents included, who admire them both very much. That’s so amazing? Condi was involved in the Soviet Jewry movement way back.
407 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:38pm |
re: #351 Mich-again
First you said all your friends are hardcore Democrats, then you said all your lefty friends dug Condi. I find it ridiculous for you to claim how all your friends who happen to be hardcore democrats loved Powell and Condi. Yeah right.
Not every single one of them. The ones I talk to about politics? yes. I have a 9/11 truther as a frined, who doesn’t support Condie.
I would say of all of my core Dem friends, it runs about 75%/25%. Because my friends who talk about politics, tend to be very aware of REAL politics, and not this bumper-sticker nonsense that passes for political discourse. People who are curious about campaign funding, about who the activist base is during a campaign, how they’re mobilized, who the strategists are, what decisions they’re making, , who pay attention to who’s getting more play in a president’s cabinet.
You’re making silly broad brush statements, and then I challenge you on them, and then you walk it back. It happens a lot here!
408 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:47pm |
re: #405 albusteve
Thats one thing I do, I totally leech my parent’s boat. All the fun, but I don’t have to pay for upkeep.
win/win!
409 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:51pm |
re: #391 albusteve
Stalingrad?…from the book ‘War of the Rats’?…the sniper movie?, I saw it…very good if it’s the same one
Yes, “Enemy at the Gates” is a very good movie.
410 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:52pm |
re: #378 soap_man
I read where the star of the film went drinking with some real EOD guys who saw the film. They were grateful to the man who showed their families what the job was like. Not in detail, but in essence, the more important part by far. The movie expressed what they simply could not with mere words. they insisted, they who served also buy the drinks. Made my hair stand up with pride for all concerned there.
411 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:04:53pm |
re: #386 PT Barnum
The Tesla Roadster goes 0 to 60 in 4 seconds..
pffft!…not an American…doesn’t count
412 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:05:08pm |
re: #361 The Shadow Do
Subject to instant reevaluation had she decided to run for office of any kind.
I would vote for that woman for President in a heartbeat. Powell too, regardless of what party he was with.
413 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:05:24pm |
re: #387 ggt
I read Powell’s biography and respect him tremendously. Same with Condi. A stint in the State Department seems to ruin everybody’s rep. Wonder what it will do to Hillary?
She’s the only one in the administration whose stock has actually gone up recently. As a Dem who supported Obama, I’m starting to feel I should have just held my nose and voted for Hillary.
414 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:05:52pm |
re: #368 Kruk
Back To The Future. Micheal J. Fox’s character goes back in time, and screws the timeline up so that his parents never meet.
Oh….NOW I get the reference.
415 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:05:52pm |
re: #386 PT Barnum
Tesla is pure electric. Not a hybrid.
416 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:05:56pm |
re: #390 palomino
As for Condi and especially Powell, they may have been the only ones, but quite a few liberals actually did respect them.
Perhaps but they had a funny way of showing that alleged respect. Then again, had any dem shown overt respect or support for anyone in the Bush administration they would have kicked to the curb. Quiet respect is pretty empty. It shows a lack of conviction.
417 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:06:02pm |
re: #412 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t think I could vote for Condi. She’s a bit too hawkish for me. I’d vote for Powell tho’
418 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:06:03pm |
re: #386 PT Barnum
The Tesla Roadster goes 0 to 60 in 4 seconds..
Not a hybrid. An electric. Hybrid means two power plants connected to the same drivetrain, an electric plant, and a gas engine.
Also inferior to a Lotus Elise, which is the car it’s based on. Way heavier and less reliable than the solid as a rock Celica GTS engine in the base Elise.
419 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:06:23pm |
420 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:06:24pm |
re: #399 cliffster
Another stint in the Oval Office?
Oh wait, that was Monica in the Oval Office the first time around. Sorry.
Ha!!
421 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:06:52pm |
re: #395 laZardo
WTF?
They just got a FAT stimulus check.
Stopping production of the Roadster could could present a problem, because it means Tesla won’t have any cars to sell — and no revenue coming in.
“As a result, we anticipate that we may generate limited, if any, revenue from selling electric vehicles after 2011 until the launch of the planned model S,” the company says in the SEC filing. That may not be a problem if S production starts on plan and goes off without a hitch, but if Tesla hits any snags, things could get ugly fast — a point it concedes in the filing.
“The launch of the Model S could be delayed for a number of reasons and any such delays may be significant and would extend the period in which we would generate limited, if any, revenues from sales of our electric vehicles.”
The move amounts to killing the car that made Tesla famous for the sake of the Model S. Tesla better hope everything goes according to plan, or it surely will regret that decision.
Seriously - my tax money goes to a company that is going to stop producing their product for over a year. I don’t get it.
This is bad.
422 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:07:06pm |
My hands don’t work as well as they used to, and it varies day-to-day. I humbly appreciate the acceptance of my typos by my fellow Lizards.
423 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:07:08pm |
re: #369 laZardo
I’m about the only person I know that hasn’t watched Avatar.
Or any of the Twilight movies.
I’ll wait for DVD for Avatar. Or maybe take the husband for his birthday. Our budget is ridiculously tight right now, but my mom wants to give me some cash to take him out for his B-Day.
Twilight—I don’t know. All my female students and a few of the boys are INTO it. I think maybe I’ll read the books over the summer.
424 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:07:19pm |
re: #308 WindUpBird
IMHO, if you care enough to post, you should at least make an effort on your spelling. English as a second, third or fourth language writers get a pass on spelling. Otherwise, I view it as laziness.
Your mileage may vary!
427 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:08:06pm |
428 | PT Barnum Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:08:41pm |
Gnite all…Hey! I managed to get through an entire day without offending anyone! Hooray for me!
429 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:08:49pm |
re: #418 WindUpBird
Not a hybrid. An electric. Hybrid means two power plants connected to the same drivetrain, an electric plant, and a gas engine.
Also inferior to a Lotus Elise, which is the car it’s based on. Way heavier and less reliable than the solid as a rock Celica GTS engine in the base Elise.
I tried getting in and out of an Elise once. It is less trouble to lay on the ground and get under my truck than fold up and get over the door hump in that thing. Still, you gotta respect that old school Calvinist stiff upper lip British ergonomics.
430 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:05pm |
re: #423 SanFranciscoZionist
I’ve linked this before, but it ALWAYS MAKES ME LAUGH:
first 3 reviews:
“Heartbreak of Heathcliff Proportions”
“Worst book ever”
“So bad I want to rewrite it myself”
It’d make a hell of a horror flick tho’!
431 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:09pm |
re: #403 Dark_Falcon
The HuffPo still has a fair number of lefty assholes like that.
Note: Not all liberals are assholes, but the sort of doctrinaire liberals described by soap_man are often assholes
Most of my friends are liberal, as I am young and live in Chicago. Most are very thoughtful and can defend their beliefs and positions quite well.
But my best friend qualifies as a “liberal asshole.” We got into an argument after the Super Bowl about the SCOTUS corporations/political advertisement decision. His argument was nothing more than “corporations are bad.” I told him that I’m fine with him disagreeing with me, but he should make a cohesive argument. He then called me a dick.
It’s a shame really, because with the exception of politics, he is a hell of a nice guy.
432 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:15pm |
re: #421 Racer X
Seriously - my tax money goes to a company that is going to stop producing their product for over a year. I don’t get it.
This is bad.
That’s where the new jobs are being created: at the headache powder factory, when you try to figure these things out.
433 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:22pm |
re: #332 Killgore Trout
Heh. Avatar doesn’t even look interesting enough to me to download a bootleg. I might watch it if it was shown on a flight or something.
I saw Avatar in an IMAX theater, in 3D. Do not watch this movie at home or on a tiny airplane screen. It will suck. In IMAX 3D, it kicks ass!
434 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:25pm |
re: #416 Mich-again
Perhaps but they had a funny way of showing that alleged respect. Then again, had any dem shown overt respect or support for anyone in the Bush administration they would have kicked to the curb. Quiet respect is pretty empty. It shows a lack of conviction.
Sure, but it’s a 2-way street. In 10 years I’m sure we’ll be hearing about lots of conservatives (Joe Wilson et al.) who claim to have really respected Obama, but had a really funny way of showing it.
435 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:44pm |
re: #415 Rightwingconspirator
Tesla is pure electric. Not a hybrid.
right…who gives a shit about electric cars?…I want a Camaro (BAD)
436 | Irenicum Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:09:50pm |
G’nite kids. It’s good to see y’all playing well. Be well and be good.
437 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:10:16pm |
re: #400 soap_man
I have dyslexia and make typos quite often. It’s kind of embarrassing, but it happens.
Your case would be different then, would it not? Also note the difference between a typo, which is an unforced error, and just confusion over the spelling of words. In this here case I commented on the second such occasion of hear.
438 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:10:16pm |
re: #363 SanFranciscoZionist
Tests are, like, totally culturally determined, dude. We prefer a more holistic assessment of how you’re doing as you move toward becoming a stereotypical liberal.
But I will say that if you have more than five anti-war bumper stickers on your hybrid, it’s a good sign.
GULP.
I think I failed, before I started.
///
439 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:10:24pm |
re: #424 Floral Giraffe
I actually feel the opposite. In something as fast as LGF, flow is too important.
If you can correct quickly, great. Otherwise its better to get your post out while its still relevant :P
also, it lets you pick out the people with weak arguments, since they’ll always go after your grammar and spelling first :)
440 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:11:16pm |
re: #419 laZardo
well you got me…still, who cares?…youngsters I guess
441 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:11:44pm |
re: #424 Floral Giraffe
IMHO, if you care enough to post, you should at least make an effort on your spelling. English as a second, third or fourth language writers get a pass on spelling. Otherwise, I view it as laziness.
Your mileage may vary!
Sorry, I wildly disagree. Threads here move too fast for me to make my old Tabet PC chug for five minutes, and I think I’m pretty easy to understand. I was a spelling bee champion, I know how to spell. I just can’t type like a secretary on this teeny little machine. I’d rather the idea got out there, than to whinge over the factI dropped a vowel.
442 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:11:45pm |
re: #407 WindUpBird
Apparently I have to remind you what you wrote upthread
..All my friends are hardcore Democrats and they loved Colin Powell. They wanted him to run in 2000, because they didn’t like Gore’s wooden-wonk act. And Condi was considered by all of my LEFTY MC LEFTERSON SATANIC SOCIALIST BILL AYERS LEFTYFRIENDS to be very smart, very knowledgable, very academic, and the clear intellectual superior of almost everyone else in Bush’s cabinet, including Bush himself.
When I called you out on the “all” word, your reply is
Not every single one of them.
and then you accuse me of making silly broad brush statements. Move the goal posts much?
443 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:11:54pm |
re: #440 albusteve
Damn kids and their Rock and Roll music!
444 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:12:11pm |
The old joke:
A college student comes home from school with Straight A’s and says her roomate got straight C’s. She then proceeds to espouse newly head political views about the unfairness of the economic system and how the government needs to do more about it. Her parents (who have worked hard to pay for her education) don’t appreciate.
Her father says, well, it doesn’t seem fair that your roommate got straight C’s when she worked as hard as you did. How about we average your grades and each of you get’s straight B’s.
The student is outraged stating that she “earned” those A’s.
Her father responds: “Welcome to the Republican Party.”
From back when economics seemed important to any party.
445 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:12:19pm |
re: OP
insert here a joke whose punchline includes the word “iPad”.
446 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:12:28pm |
re: #437 Bagua
Your case would be different then, would it not? Also note the difference between a typo, which is an unforced error, and just confusion over the spelling of words. In this here case I commented on the second such occasion of hear.
Oh, no, I wasn’t getting on you about anything. I agree with what you said.
I’m just a tad touchy about the criticisms about others poor typing. Sometimes there is a good reason for it, yet people are often a little embarrassed to discuss learning disabilities.
447 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:12:41pm |
Oh my god!
I’m just watching the Simpsons and its an old rerun, the episode where Homer gets his a heart transplant….
“Don’t worry Marge, America’s healthcare system is second only to Britain, Canada, France, Norway… well most of Europe, but you can think your lucky stars we don’t live in Paraguay!”
The sad thing is that this joke was written about 2 decades ago and yet to me it doesn’t ring any less true…
448 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:13:00pm |
re: #442 Mich-again
also picking semantics, its a good hint you’re in trouble, discussion-wise.
449 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:13:08pm |
re: #409 Dark_Falcon
Yes, “Enemy at the Gates” is a very good movie.
I liked that one. I grew up around old men who’d fought at Stalingrad, so it was very interesting to me for that alone. I liked the way they showed the ethnic range of the Soviet forces, and the use of women as snipers.
Thought it was well done.
When the then-boyfriend and I went, we ran into a friend coming out of the last showing. He looked kind of frazzled. Told me that he’d been aware that there was a battle at Stalingrad, but he thought it lasted ‘couple of days, or a week or something’.
450 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:13:18pm |
re: #429 keloyd
I tried getting in and out of an Elise once. It is less trouble to lay on the ground and get under my truck than fold up and get over the door hump in that thing. Still, you gotta respect that old school Calvinist stiff upper lip British ergonomics.
It’s not about ergonomics, it’s about the lightest, most pure sports car you can buy. Ergonomics are for comsumer passenger cars, not mid-engined aluminum tub 2000 lb track cars. :D
451 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:13:28pm |
re: #400 soap_man
I have dyslexia and make typos quite often. It’s kind of embarrassing, but it happens.
A dyslexic friend I had in college is now a professor at an Ivy League University. I say that in the spirit of encouragement, not reproach, in case it comes across wrong.
452 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:13:39pm |
Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, “I will try again tomorrow.”
— Mary Anne Radmacher
453 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:14:03pm |
re: #413 palomino
She’s the only one in the administration whose stock has actually gone up recently. As a Dem who supported Obama, I’m starting to feel I should have just held my nose and voted for Hillary.
I think a lot of people feel that way.
454 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:14:20pm |
re: #433 Alouette
Yes! Worth the extra $$. I predict it will be re run in Imax for a decade.
455 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:14:42pm |
re: #442 Mich-again
Apparently I have to remind you what you wrote upthread
and then you accuse me of making silly broad brush statements. Move the goal posts much?
You are weak sauce, whining like a kid about the fact that your broad brush statement was pounded flat by a number of liberal posters here. This conversation is terminated. :)
456 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:14:49pm |
re: #444 ggt
The old joke:
A college student comes home from school with Straight A’s and says her roomate got straight C’s. She then proceeds to espouse newly head political views about the unfairness of the economic system and how the government needs to do more about it. Her parents (who have worked hard to pay for her education) don’t appreciate.
Her father says, well, it doesn’t seem fair that your roommate got straight C’s when she worked as hard as you did. How about we average your grades and each of you get’s straight B’s.
The student is outraged stating that she “earned” those A’s.
Her father responds: “Welcome to the Republican Party.”From back when economics seemed important to any party.
It’s still a good joke, too. How go things in the Far West Suburbs? Are you getting as much snow as I am?
457 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:15:04pm |
re: #435 albusteve
right…who gives a shit about electric cars?…I want a Camaro (BAD)
Man, I had a Camaro in the 1980s. Biggest piece of shit I ever drove. A V-8 with 145 hp. And they actually offered two LESS powerful engines. Total joke all the way around. Have only driven Japanese and German since then.
458 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:15:21pm |
re: #416 Mich-again
Perhaps but they had a funny way of showing that alleged respect. Then again, had any dem shown overt respect or support for anyone in the Bush administration they would have kicked to the curb. Quiet respect is pretty empty. It shows a lack of conviction.
What exactly are you envisioning people doing, and who are we talking about here? Members of Congress? WUP’s friends?
And can I then ask for an example of across-the-aisles respect from Republicans to the Obama administration?
I’m kind of confused here.
459 | zora Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:15:41pm |
re: #453 ggt
I think Hillary would be stonewalled as well. The repubs have hated her longer.
460 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:16:12pm |
re: #439 windsagio
I actually feel the opposite. In something as fast as LGF, flow is too important.
If you can correct quickly, great. Otherwise its better to get your post out while its still relevant :P
also, it lets you pick out the people with weak arguments, since they’ll always go after your grammar and spelling first :)
And typos make for some great puns!
461 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:16:18pm |
re: #448 windsagio
also picking semantics, its a good hint you’re in trouble, discussion-wise.
You used “all” more than once to make a bold point. Then you backed off all and used “some” to convert your ridiculous statement toi something more reasonable. If you had some “some” I wouldn’t have objected one bit. But then, your point would have been much diluted. If that is mere semantics, whatever.
462 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:16:29pm |
re: #459 zora
Thats really the thing… We’re so silly as to throw people into a lose-lose situation, and then be mad when they don’t win >>
463 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:16:29pm |
re: #457 palomino
Man, I had a Camaro in the 1980s. Biggest piece of shit I ever drove. A V-8 with 145 hp. And they actually offered two LESS powerful engines. Total joke all the way around. Have only driven Japanese and German since then.
Another old joke…
“Its a good thing we won WW2, otherwise we’d all be driving Japanese and German cars and using German and Japanese computers!”
464 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:16:39pm |
re: #451 The Sanity Inspector
A dyslexic friend I had in college is now a professor at an Ivy League University. I say that in the spirit of encouragement, not reproach, in case it comes across wrong.
I do a lot of writing at work and I am held in high regard by my boss. She doesn’t mind my occasional fuck ups. I also have a co-worker who proofs or me. She’s a nice gal.
465 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:16:55pm |
re: #438 Floral Giraffe
GULP.
I think I failed, before I started.
///
You have to want this, Floral…
466 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:17:07pm |
re: #437 Bagua
Your case would be different then, would it not? Also note the difference between a typo, which is an unforced error, and just confusion over the spelling of words. In this here case I commented on the second such occasion of hear.
Can we be the spelling Nazi’s?
I’d kick ass in some thigh high boots!
467 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:17:11pm |
re: #449 SanFranciscoZionist
I liked that one. I grew up around old men who’d fought at Stalingrad, so it was very interesting to me for that alone. I liked the way they showed the ethnic range of the Soviet forces, and the use of women as snipers.
Thought it was well done.
When the then-boyfriend and I went, we ran into a friend coming out of the last showing. He looked kind of frazzled. Told me that he’d been aware that there was a battle at Stalingrad, but he thought it lasted ‘couple of days, or a week or something’.
There was a book of collected war dispatches out in the past two years, A Writer At War, by the Soviet war correspondent Vassily Grossman, which I recommend.
468 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:17:35pm |
re: #452 cliffster
— Mary Anne Radmacher
Madness does not always howl. Sometimes it is the quiet voice in your head at the end of the day asking, “Hey? Is there room in there for one more?”
—Demotivators
469 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:17:46pm |
re: #461 Mich-again
‘you’? Uh oh, you caught me!
People use ‘all’ that way all the time (see? like that!) You got slapped, so you’re just using semantics so you don’t have to admit you were wrong.
470 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:17:49pm |
this is a car…an American piece of art and design…the real deal
Image: FrontRight.jpg
eat my dust, woosie electric geek
471 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:02pm |
Mizz Rotham-hyphen-Clinton can’t give a campaign speech to save her life and has very little appeal to independents. Like Ru Ron Paul, she has a smallish number of devout followers instead of a large number who just sorta like her enough to vote for her. She will never be president.
472 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:15pm |
473 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:29pm |
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
474 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:38pm |
re: #456 Dark_Falcon
It’s still a good joke, too. How go things in the Far West Suburbs? Are you getting as much snow as I am?
Steady, you can shovel and an hour later it doesn’t look like you did. Small flakes tho, Very Wet.
Suppossed to be going on all night. I don’t expect many school closures.
475 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:41pm |
re: #449 SanFranciscoZionist
I liked that one. I grew up around old men who’d fought at Stalingrad, so it was very interesting to me for that alone. I liked the way they showed the ethnic range of the Soviet forces, and the use of women as snipers.
Thought it was well done.
When the then-boyfriend and I went, we ran into a friend coming out of the last showing. He looked kind of frazzled. Told me that he’d been aware that there was a battle at Stalingrad, but he thought it lasted ‘couple of days, or a week or something’.
I liked it too. i saw it in the theater when it came out. My only quibble was that the artillery rail car shown had T-34/85 turrets and that the T-34s shown were T-34/85s (which were not in service till 1944, more than a year after the battle ended). But thats just a minor quibble, since hey did use T-34s to portray T-34s and the German tank used was an actual Pazer Mark III. The attention to detail in the movie was very impressive.
476 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:47pm |
re: #450 WindUpBird
It’s not about ergonomics, it’s about the lightest, most pure sports car you can buy. Ergonomics are for comsumer passenger cars, not mid-engined aluminum tub 2000 lb track cars. :D
gag me
477 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:56pm |
Say what you will - but this thread has been very civil compared to others lately. I can think of 2 good reasons why that is.
478 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:18:58pm |
re: #441 WindUpBird
Sorry, I wildly disagree. Threads here move too fast for me to make my old Tabet PC chug for five minutes, and I think I’m pretty easy to understand. I was a spelling bee champion, I know how to spell. I just can’t type like a secretary on this teeny little machine. I’d rather the idea got out there, than to whinge over the factI dropped a vowel.
You are missing the point. First, you rarely make the same typo twice, the next time it would be tablet. Twice in a row and you may earn a comment worthy of your mockery, though I find it remarkable you can type at all in that outfit and under those conditions.
479 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:19:37pm |
re: #459 zora
I think Hillary would be stonewalled as well. The repubs have hated her longer.
True, but I also think she would have gone in clear on what the deal was. Obama, I think, had some idea that he was going to have a brand new approach, and everything would be different.
Hillary knows where the bodies are buried, and how the sausage is made. It wouldn’t have been perfect, but it might have been a little different.
But I’m a Hillary booster, so what do I know?
480 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:19:38pm |
re: #477 Racer X
Say what you will - but this thread has been very civil compared to others lately. I can think of 2 good reasons why that is.
3. I haven’t made a sweeping statement about conservatives yet.
/polishes Order of the Bottom Commenter medal
481 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:19:43pm |
re: #477 Racer X
Say what you will - but this thread has been very civil compared to others lately. I can think of 2 good reasons why that is.
Is one because we’re all too tired to sling mud at each other?
482 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:19:45pm |
re: #473 Cato the Elder
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
The library, man; the library!
483 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:19:50pm |
re: #472 Floral Giraffe
sure knock yourself out. Alot of people find that look sexy >>
484 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:07pm |
re: #473 Cato the Elder
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
Cato, please let us help you stay. We want to.
485 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:07pm |
re: #458 SanFranciscoZionist
What exactly are you envisioning people doing, and who are we talking about here? Members of Congress? WUP’s friends?
And can I then ask for an example of across-the-aisles respect from Republicans to the Obama administration?
I’m kind of confused here.
the GOP doesn’t like BO, the Apologist in Chief…I don’t blame them
486 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:21pm |
re: #459 zora
I think Hillary would be stonewalled as well. The repubs have hated her longer.
I think after this administration, people realize how much more qualified she is. I think she is much more repected now. Congress might actually breathe a sign of relief, if she were to gain the office.
487 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:24pm |
re: #482 The Sanity Inspector
The library, man; the library!
Soon enough I won’t smell good enough for a library.
488 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:26pm |
re: #473 Cato the Elder
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
Find a way to jump back in from time to time. The library has computers you can check in with for free.
489 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:37pm |
re: #471 keloyd
Mizz Rotham-hyphen-Clinton can’t give a campaign speech to save her life and has very little appeal to independents. Like Ru Ron Paul, she has a smallish number of devout followers instead of a large number who just sorta like her enough to vote for her. She will never be president.
She’s not hyphenated.
490 | Mich-again Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:20:40pm |
re: #455 WindUpBird
You are weak sauce, whining like a kid about the fact that your broad brush statement was pounded flat by a number of liberal posters here. This conversation is terminated. :)
Some of us remember the thinly veiled racist attacks aimed at Condi from the left on a regular basis when she was in the Bush Administration. Just because you and a few others want to forget that ugliness doesn’t make it go away. If there was any support or respect for her from the left at the time, it was from cowards who were too afraid to speak up.
492 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:10pm |
re: #481 jamesfirecat
Is one because we’re all too tired to sling mud at each other?
Mud is fine - the other brown stuff not so much.
493 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:11pm |
re: #463 jamesfirecat
Another old joke…
“Its a good thing we won WW2, otherwise we’d all be driving Japanese and German cars and using German and Japanese computers!”
If you can read this, thank an teacher.
If you can read it in English, thank a soldier.
494 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:20pm |
re: #310 cliffster
My little girl is sick tonight. I think it’s croup. This is seriously around 10 times in the last 2 months that she’s been sick. I’m really second-guessing this pre-school thing. Make her independent, teach her how to socialize, yada yada. Fuck that, she’s 3 days on, 1 day off when it comes to the sick.
Croup has such a scary sound. That barking cough.
Ten times in two months is a lot of sick. I hope she builds up a defense against those school cooties, and fast.
495 | srb1976 Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:25pm |
evening folks, tried to read the whole thread before jumping in, then I got to the bottom only to find out I was already 60+ comments behind again…..
496 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:28pm |
Is Cato going to off himself? Can I have his watch?
497 | wee fury Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:41pm |
498 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:21:48pm |
re: #477 Racer X
Say what you will - but this thread has been very civil compared to others lately. I can think of 2 good reasons why that is.
1. Brookly Red left when ice and Jimmah came in.
2. LGF’s First Couple (not snark) left before Bagua came in.
499 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:22:05pm |
re: #484 Dark_Falcon
I get the feeling that the least of his problems is gonna be internet accesss soon. :(
500 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:22:26pm |
re: #493 ggt
If you can read this, thank an teacher.
If you can read it in English, thank a soldier.
Little too late for me to properly asses a statement like that but there does seem to be a deep profound wisdom to it….
501 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:22:32pm |
502 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:22:48pm |
re: #497 wee fury
Are you … ripening?
I’m going to get in my car when this snowstorm is over and drive until the gas runs out. Then I start walking.
503 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:23:01pm |
re: #473 Cato the Elder
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
Talk to Walter.
SOME of us, don’t want it to be your last day here.
Yes, we like you!
We, REALLY like you.
I wish I knew how to do that tiny type thing for the last line…
You curmudgeon, you.
504 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:23:10pm |
505 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:23:15pm |
507 | srb1976 Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:23:49pm |
re: #494 Silvergirl
Croup has such a scary sound. That barking cough.
Ten times in two months is a lot of sick. I hope she builds up a defense against those school cooties, and fast.
Her Royal Stoutness had it a few months ago, when she first woke up we thought she was choking on something (it sounded that bad!)
Thankfully, some liquid motrin and baby vicks got her back in shape pretty quick!
508 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:23:59pm |
re: #504 Racer X
I hate it when people put things like that out and then don’t explain them.
On the other hand, I probalby wouldn’t explain it either… You like it calm ;)
509 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:24:07pm |
re: #502 Cato the Elder
I’m going to get in my car when this snowstorm is over and drive until the gas runs out. Then I start walking.
one man alone…searching, searching
510 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:24:14pm |
re: #473 Cato the Elder
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
Surely you can thing of something?
511 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:24:23pm |
512 | zora Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:24:47pm |
re: #486 ggt
The people who dislike Hillary most never doubted her qualification. At least I don’t think so.
513 | windsagio Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:25:11pm |
re: #511 jamesfirecat
not to make light of anyones suffering, it makes me think of a guy I knew once who stole stuff from people in order to keep playing WOW.
514 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:25:25pm |
re: #477 Racer X
Say what you will - but this thread has been very civil compared to others lately. I can think of 2 good reasons why that is.
You can?
Please elaborate, TIA!
515 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:25:26pm |
re: #490 Mich-again
Some of us remember the thinly veiled racist attacks aimed at Condi from the left on a regular basis when she was in the Bush Administration. Just because you and a few others want to forget that ugliness doesn’t make it go away. If there was any support or respect for her from the left at the time, it was from cowards who were too afraid to speak up.
What the heck? I, and some others, have been talking about our opinion of Condi and that of other Democrats we know. No one has made any statement about people other than those we can personally report on.
Now, if you want to cite some of those thinly veiled racist attacks, go right ahead, and we’ll be happy to call the people who came out with those assholes.
But the fact is, both Condi Rice and Colin Powell are among the more popular people connected with the Bush administration among most of the Democrats I know. If you absolutely can’t accept that, OK.
516 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:25:54pm |
re: #487 Cato the Elder
Soon enough I won’t smell good enough for a library.
Ho, ho! You haven’t spent enough time in one. A warm, dry public space with comfortable chairs, magazines, books, and yes internet? And all for free? And not only does Judge H. Lee Sarokin say that the homeless can live there, but the ACLU says the librarians have to bring them breakfast and firewood? (/ sarc that bit, somewhat.)
Seriously, consider it. And let us help you out in some way, if possible. You’re too crusty to go down w/o a fight.
517 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:26:21pm |
re: #487 Cato the Elder
Soon enough I won’t smell good enough for a library.
Cato, if memory serves me, you were the first person to reply to one of my comments. You made fun of my underscore. I felt welcome after that.
I always enjoyed your comments, even before I registered. Please find a way to stick around. If that is impossible, have a safe and fun life.
518 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:26:23pm |
519 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:26:36pm |
re: #511 jamesfirecat
Doesn’t have money for internet.
I think Catos is familiar enough with libraries that he could access us if he wanted to.
520 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:26:43pm |
521 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:27:24pm |
re: #490 Mich-again
Some of us remember the thinly veiled racist attacks aimed at Condi from the left on a regular basis when she was in the Bush Administration. Just because you and a few others want to forget that ugliness doesn’t make it go away. If there was any support or respect for her from the left at the time, it was from cowards who were too afraid to speak up.
The answer may be this: None of WindUpBird’s no doubt kindhearted friends are Dem operatives or MSM reporters & pundits.
522 | Racer X Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:27:28pm |
re: #473 Cato the Elder
Since it’s my last day here, I’m trying to think of something outrageous to say.
Nichts fällt mir ein.
Flounce!
523 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:27:31pm |
there is no snow in Albuquerque, but there are tacos aplenty…should you make it this far Cato, you can buy me lunch at Little Anita’s
524 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:28:01pm |
re: #498 Dark_Falcon
I’m almost afraid to upding that.
+1 for the timing analysis!
525 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:28:04pm |
526 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:28:07pm |
re: #517 soap_man
Cato, if memory serves me, you were the first person to reply to one of my comments. You made fun of my underscore. I felt welcome after that.
I always enjoyed your comments, even before I registered. Please find a way to stick around. If that is impossible, have a safe and fun life.
:)
527 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:28:46pm |
My dog is sitting in a chair across the room from me giving me one of those forlorn looks.
I’m just happy it’s not the Cat Overlord. That would make me nervous.
528 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:28:51pm |
re: #494 Silvergirl
Croup has such a scary sound. That barking cough.
Yeah, fortunately I’ve been through it so I could stay calm, and try to calm her down. It goes like this:
cough -> freak-out -> worse cough -> worse freak-out -> choking
first time around, it was the ER and me pounding on the glass window shouting that my daughter was dying.
530 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:29:54pm |
re: #514 Floral Giraffe
Never mind. Slow reader, tonight!
531 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:30:16pm |
re: #518 SanFranciscoZionist
What products from the Zionist Mall should I be featuring, about how? I have gift baskets for Purim and a whole collection of supplies for Passover.
532 | wee fury Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:30:21pm |
re: #502 Cato the Elder
I’m going to get in my car when this snowstorm is over and drive until the gas runs out. Then I start walking.
Well . . . be careful when thumbing a ride …Youtube Video
533 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:30:23pm |
re: #495 srb1976
evening folks, tried to read the whole thread before jumping in, then I got to the bottom only to find out I was already 60+ comments behind again…
If Charles would move back to New York City I could get to bed at a Christian hour.
535 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:31:36pm |
re: #533 The Sanity Inspector
If Charles would move back to New York City I could get to bed at a Christian hour.
we heathens rarely sleep…might get raptured or something even worse
536 | srb1976 Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:31:37pm |
re: #528 cliffster
Yeah, fortunately I’ve been through it so I could stay calm, and try to calm her down. It goes like this:
cough -> freak-out -> worse cough -> worse freak-out -> choking
first time around, it was the ER and me pounding on the glass window shouting that my daughter was dying.
The liquid motrin really does help (helps bring the swelling in the throat down) our pediatrician didn’t put HRS on any meds at all when she had it…
537 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:31:42pm |
re: #490 Mich-again
Some of us remember the thinly veiled racist attacks aimed at Condi from the left on a regular basis when she was in the Bush Administration. Just because you and a few others want to forget that ugliness doesn’t make it go away. If there was any support or respect for her from the left at the time, it was from cowards who were too afraid to speak up.
Again, it’s a 2-way street. And those “thinly veiled racist attacks” pale in both number and viciousness to what we’ve seen from many on the right over the past year.
538 | keloyd Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:31:46pm |
re: #518 SanFranciscoZionist
I didn’t know that was an option. I may consider it.
If you do, you must spell out the word ‘hyphen’, requiring the use of two hyphens to wit Mizz Rotham-hyphen-Clinton.
/not a fan of either Clinton
///Chelsea is on double secret probation.
539 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:32:09pm |
re: #524 Floral Giraffe
I’m almost afraid to upding that.
+1 for the timing analysis!
I’m not happy with it though. Still, I’m grateful that we had a nice evening with a minimum of strife.
540 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:32:47pm |
re: #539 Dark_Falcon
I’m not happy with it though. Still, I’m grateful that we had a nice evening with a minimum of strife.
I have little tolerance for strife.
541 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:33:23pm |
re: #539 Dark_Falcon
I’m not happy with it though. Still, I’m grateful that we had a nice evening with a minimum of strife.
Is it just me, or does most of the fighting happen in the overnight thread(s)?
542 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:33:38pm |
re: #516 The Sanity Inspector
You’re right, of course.
I just need to find a friendlier town to do it in.
543 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:33:54pm |
re: #521 The Sanity Inspector
The answer may be this: None of WindUpBird’s no doubt kindhearted friends are Dem operatives or MSM reporters & pundits.
Oh, so that’s the standard.
544 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:34:14pm |
Cato spelled sideways, spells Taco….go figure
545 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:34:20pm |
re: #541 soap_man
Is it just me, or does most of the fighting happen in the overnight thread(s)?
lately, it seem to be every thread I get on. I usually just leave.
546 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:34:41pm |
re: #502 Cato the Elder
I’m going to get in my car when this snowstorm is over and drive until the gas runs out. Then I start walking.
Like Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction. “I’m just gonna walk the earth.”
547 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:34:45pm |
re: #535 albusteve
we heathens rarely sleep…might get raptured or something even worse
I definitely want to be awake when the rapture happens so I can grab the best stuff. And punch Pat Robertson.
549 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:35:21pm |
I’m thinking about saying something nice to Cato
550 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:35:23pm |
re: #531 Alouette
What products from the Zionist Mall should I be featuring, about how? I have gift baskets for Purim and a whole collection of supplies for Passover.
That all looks gorgeous. The wine selections are great.
551 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:35:50pm |
re: #547 Girth
I definitely want to be awake when the rapture happens so I can grab the best stuff. And punch Pat Robertson.
I’d rather party with the sinners than cry with the saints.
552 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:35:56pm |
553 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:36:03pm |
re: #546 palomino
Like Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction. “I’m just gonna walk the earth.”
“You know, like Caine in Kung Fu - walk from place to place, meet people, get in adventures.”
554 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:36:19pm |
re: #542 Cato the Elder
You’re right, of course.
I just need to find a friendlier town to do it in.
come out west…nobody even honks their horn in New Mexico
555 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:36:25pm |
re: #549 cliffster
I’m thinking about saying something nice to Cato
Easy, try that all of a sudden and you could strain something.
557 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:37:51pm |
re: #547 Girth
I definitely want to be awake when the rapture happens so I can grab the best stuff. And punch Pat Robertson.
I like the part about punching Pat on his way out
558 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:37:56pm |
re: #515 SanFranciscoZionist
What the heck? I, and some others, have been talking about our opinion of Condi and that of other Democrats we know. No one has made any statement about people other than those we can personally report on.
Now, if you want to cite some of those thinly veiled racist attacks, go right ahead, and we’ll be happy to call the people who came out with those assholes.
But the fact is, both Condi Rice and Colin Powell are among the more popular people connected with the Bush administration among most of the Democrats I know. If you absolutely can’t accept that, OK.
There’s like an entire liberal straw man subdivision being built for people here to wage war against. It’s become very stupid, very frustrating, and very polarizing. And I can either go into full internet insult-comic funster mode, or I can ignore them. I’m gonna choose to ignore them.
559 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:37:58pm |
re: #512 zora
The people who dislike Hillary most never doubted her qualification. At least I don’t think so.
It wasn’t her qualifications at all. It was that she would have been just as, if not more, divisive than Bush. We hoped things would be different with Obama—less baggage and all.
But now that things are just as polarized with Obama, we might as well have had the experienced ballsy Hillary in the first place.
560 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:38:04pm |
re: #554 albusteve
come out west…nobody even honks their horn in New Mexico
Of all the places I saw on my abortive trip to revitalize my life, NM was the one I would most like to be right now.
561 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:38:25pm |
re: #550 SanFranciscoZionist
That all looks gorgeous. The wine selections are great.
More wine then. Can’t go wrong with wine.
See you tomorrow.
562 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:39:37pm |
563 | Kruk Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:39:54pm |
I need to take an early night today, folks. Be well.
Cato, I sincerely hope we’ll see you again. If not though, may life bring you everything you wish. I’m sorry I couldn’t have known you for longer.
564 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:40:12pm |
re: #545 ggt
lately, it seem to be every thread I get on. I usually just leave.
Or just watch and take it all in. I learned on the blacktop at a young age to not get in the middle of all the shit.
565 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:40:20pm |
567 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:40:52pm |
re: #558 WindUpBird
There’s like an entire liberal straw man subdivision being built for people here to wage war against. It’s become very stupid, very frustrating, and very polarizing. And I can either go into full internet insult-comic funster mode, or I can ignore them. I’m gonna choose to ignore them.
thanks, I appreciate that…arguing with liberals is a pain in the ass
568 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:40:57pm |
For the record, Cato, you are scaring me. If you need to pull a geographical, do it, but don’t be rash about it.
569 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:41:13pm |
570 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:41:13pm |
re: #549 cliffster
I’m thinking about saying something nice to Cato
Go on, it doesn’t hurt a bit!
EVERYONE needs encouragement.
571 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:41:47pm |
re: #553 soap_man
“You know, like Caine in Kung Fu - walk from place to place, meet people, get in adventures.”
It beats having to kill people for a living, even if you do get to wear a cool suit and hang with Travolta.
572 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:41:56pm |
re: #567 albusteve
thanks, I appreciate that…arguing with liberals is a pain in the ass
I suppose we could argue that the reverse is also true, but then what are we doing here?
573 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:42:15pm |
re: #502 Cato the Elder
I’m going to get in my car when this snowstorm is over and drive until the gas runs out. Then I start walking.
You’ve been listening to Dylan again.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
574 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:42:24pm |
re: #569 SanFranciscoZionist
Drive on, old Roman, drive on!
I don’t even know what the hell that meant.
575 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:42:50pm |
re: #560 Cato the Elder
Of all the places I saw on my abortive trip to revitalize my life, NM was the one I would most like to be right now.
Can you make that happen?
Pack up & move?
It’s warmer there, than where I think you are…
Maine?
576 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:43:06pm |
re: #560 Cato the Elder
Of all the places I saw on my abortive trip to revitalize my life, NM was the one I would most like to be right now.
I’m an excellent tour guide and have plenty of room in the bunkhouse here at Ft Willow…it’s rustic but friendly here amigo
577 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:44:04pm |
re: #573 Silvergirl
You’ve been listening to Dylan again.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
Upding for my favorite Dylan song.
578 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:44:24pm |
re: #558 WindUpBird
There’s like an entire liberal straw man subdivision being built for people here to wage war against. It’s become very stupid, very frustrating, and very polarizing. And I can either go into full internet insult-comic funster mode, or I can ignore them. I’m gonna choose to ignore them.
No, please don’t stifle yourself! This is one of the few forums on the web where intelligent, informed, & honest conservatives and liberals can interact on a fairly even footing. It’s like an 80/20 ratio either way, elsewhere.
As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
— Proverbs 27:17
I’ll gladly sustain a few lumps in exchange for broadening my horizons.
579 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:45:17pm |
When I start seeing posts harping about what is happening on other blogs, I know I won’t be around long.
580 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:45:39pm |
re: #570 Floral Giraffe
Go on, it doesn’t hurt a bit!
EVERYONE needs encouragement.
Screw it, I’m not gonna do it. I’ll just try and, well, honor his spirit. Whatever.
581 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:45:47pm |
re: #578 The Sanity Inspector
No, please don’t stifle yourself! This is one of the few forums on the web where intelligent, informed, & honest conservatives and liberals can interact on a fairly even footing. It’s like an 80/20 ratio either way, elsewhere.
As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
— Proverbs 27:17I’ll gladly sustain a few lumps in exchange for broadening my horizons.
I only know that quote because it was used in Burn Notice….
582 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:46:05pm |
re: #573 Silvergirl
You’ve been listening to Dylan again.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
Dylan is always in my head.
Then she told us how times were tough and about how she was thinkin’ of bummin’ a ride back to where she started.
But ya know, she changed the subject every time money came up.
She said, “Welcome to the land of the living dead.” You could tell she was so broken-hearted.
She said, “Even the swap meets around here are getting pretty corrupt.”“How far are y’all going?” Ruby asked us with a sigh.
“We’re going all the way ‘til the wheels fall off and burn,
‘Til the sun peels the paint and the seat covers fade and the water moccasin dies.”
Ruby just smiled and said, “Ah, you know some babies never learn.”
—Brownsville Girl
583 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:46:11pm |
re: #572 SanFranciscoZionist
I suppose we could argue that the reverse is also true, but then what are we doing here?
ha!…it never ends, but I only take it as seriously as the next guy…I think we will survive somehow
584 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:46:28pm |
re: #573 Silvergirl
You’ve been listening to Dylan again.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
It frightens me, the awful truth
Of how sweet life can be.
585 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:46:30pm |
re: #579 ggt
When I start seeing posts harping about what is happening on other blogs, I know I won’t be around long.
You’re not going to believe this, but I was over at cakewrecks, and they were making fun of cupcake cakes!
Can you believe it!
What’s next, making fun of doughnuts?
586 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:46:44pm |
re: #554 albusteve
come out west…nobody even honks their horn in New Mexico
You anywhere near Hatch? I say the Chile capital of America is God’s country. (If he exists, that is.)
587 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:47:13pm |
re: #566 Cato the Elder
Santa Fe!
[Video]
Cato, I hope you can find a way to drop by at times. But if we do not correspond again, I want to say that you’re a good man and I’m glad to have known you.
588 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:47:43pm |
re: #585 EmmmieG
You’re not going to believe this, but I was over at cakewrecks, and they were making fun of cupcake cakes!
Can you believe it!
What’s next, making fun of doughnuts?
It’s the doughnut holes I don’t get. I think they should give them away for free. I mean otherwise they’d just throw them away. We’re saving them a lot on their trash bill just by taking them off their hands.
/
589 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:47:47pm |
I really thought someone would be interested in my Michael Lerner conference, at least for ragging purposes. It looks like it will be a full-scale riot.
590 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:48:26pm |
re: #586 palomino
You anywhere near Hatch? I say the Chile capital of America is God’s country. (If he exists, that is.)
that’s way down south from me…I’m in ABQ
591 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:48:41pm |
re: #585 EmmmieG
You’re not going to believe this, but I was over at cakewrecks, and they were making fun of cupcake cakes!
Can you believe it!
What’s next, making fun of doughnuts?
They always make fun of cupcake cakes. Jen hates cupcake cakes. With a passion.
She’s OK with individual cupcakes, though.
592 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:48:49pm |
re: #589 SanFranciscoZionist
I really thought someone would be interested in my Michael Lerner conference, at least for ragging purposes. It looks like it will be a full-scale riot.
As you know, I’ve been on a Sci-Fi binge for the last few months. Who is Michael Lerner and what is the conference about?
593 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:49:02pm |
re: #587 Dark_Falcon
Cato, I hope you can find a way to drop by at times. But if we do not correspond again, I want to say that you’re a good man and I’m glad to have known you.
Hell, yeah.
594 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:49:39pm |
re: #591 SanFranciscoZionist
They always make fun of cupcake cakes. Jen hates cupcake cakes. With a passion.
She’s OK with individual cupcakes, though.
Actually, I must agree. They look like making a picture from lite brites.
595 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:49:46pm |
re: #591 SanFranciscoZionist
They always make fun of cupcake cakes. Jen hates cupcake cakes. With a passion.
She’s OK with individual cupcakes, though.
when I think of cupcakes, I think o the Colts
596 | palomino Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:50:19pm |
597 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:50:24pm |
I’ll also say his for the state of Illinois, they got me my state refund in only 7 days. It arrived today, and most of it was promptly used to pay a credit card bill (though I had enough to pay that bill anyway).
598 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:50:25pm |
599 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:50:55pm |
600 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:51:27pm |
Okay, that’s all for me for tonight. And Cato, as one lizardoid plankholder from the class of 2004 to another…
…well…
…just damn…
601 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:51:50pm |
602 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:51:54pm |
re: #596 palomino
oh, well, nobody’s perfect.
ABQ is a very cool place…Hatch is a backwater nowhere town…I like chilis too but there is no comparison
603 | wee fury Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:52:05pm |
re: #595 albusteve
when I think of cupcakes, I think o the Colts
I think of the movie, ‘Calendar Girls’.
604 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:52:20pm |
re: #576 albusteve
I’m an excellent tour guide and have plenty of room in the bunkhouse here at Ft Willow…it’s rustic but friendly here amigo
If I could get a job pumping gas at least two thousand miles away from Baltimore and live off the grid in a former meth shack, that would do me.
605 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:52:22pm |
re: #597 Dark_Falcon
I’ll also say his for the state of Illinois, they got me my state refund in only 7 days. It arrived today, and most of it was promptly used to pay a credit card bill (though I had enough to pay that bill anyway).
The crooks are not stupid enough to piss-off the votes by screwing with their refund checks. That would cost votes.
606 | Ojoe Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:52:25pm |
Down with the MoFo morons who tanked the economy.
Good night all.
607 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:52:55pm |
re: #602 albusteve
ABQ is a very cool place…Hatch is a backwater nowhere town…I like chilis too but there is no comparison
I liked ABQ —tramway and all.
608 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:53:04pm |
re: #592 ggt
As you know, I’ve been on a Sci-Fi binge for the last few months. Who is Michael Lerner and what is the conference about?
Michael Lerner is a moonbatty spiritual leader, (Renewal Rabbi), editor of Tikkun Magazine, and founder of the Progressive Spiritual Network. He’s organizing, well, THIS.
Strategy Conference of Liberals and Progressives
Support Obama to BE the Obama You Voted For
Strategy Conference of Liberals and Progressives
S.F. Feb. 15
D.C. June 11-14
Constitutional Amendments to Restrain Corporate Power and Require Corporate Social Responsibility
Support Obama to BE the Obama Americans Thought They Elected
Other Strategies for the years ahead
I’d go, except that I don’t have twenty bucks to waste, and also I used to work for Michael, for four months, and also I have an allergic reaction to him, Peter Gabel and Medea Benjamin.
It’s a pity. I would have liked to meet Swami Beyondananda.
609 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:54:20pm |
re: #597 Dark_Falcon
I’ll also say his for the state of Illinois, they got me my state refund in only 7 days. It arrived today, and most of it was promptly used to pay a credit card bill (though I had enough to pay that bill anyway).
At least they give us real money, instead of IOUs like CA.
610 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:54:32pm |
re: #604 Cato the Elder
If I could get a job pumping gas at least two thousand miles away from Baltimore and live off the grid in a former meth shack, that would do me.
Why don’t you start a blog, and live off the ad revenue? Appropriate a laptop and a wireless card and document your travels in your own special way.
“The Cross-Country Curmudgeon”
611 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:54:41pm |
612 | albusteve Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:55:29pm |
re: #604 Cato the Elder
If I could get a job pumping gas at least two thousand miles away from Baltimore and live off the grid in a former meth shack, that would do me.
you would not believe the laid back, quiet and comfortable set up I have here…no shit, drop me a line
614 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:55:39pm |
re: #610 ggt
Why don’t you start a blog, and live off the ad revenue? Appropriate a laptop and a wireless card and document your travels in your own special way.
“The Cross-Country Curmudgeon”
He speeds through the byways and highways of America, with his Sarah Palin blow-up doll by his side, Latin epigrams and venom dripping from his tongue…
Hell, I’d follow that blog.
615 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:55:47pm |
re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist
I’d stop at “Progressive Spiritual Network” and walk the other way.
616 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:56:51pm |
re: #615 ggt
I’d stop at “Progressive Spiritual Network” and walk the other way.
Oh, you have no idea. Also, he resists editing. Read the site, and you’ll see what I mean.
We had a good time slagging the Tea Party Con. I thought I would offer…balance.
617 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:57:02pm |
re: #614 SanFranciscoZionist
He speeds through the byways and highways of America, with his Sarah Palin blow-up doll by his side, Latin epigrams and venom dripping from his tongue…
Hell, I’d follow that blog.
He’d have to include Library reviews.
619 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:57:21pm |
re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist
Michael Lerner is a moonbatty spiritual leader, (Renewal Rabbi), editor of Tikkun Magazine, and founder of the Progressive Spiritual Network. He’s organizing, well, THIS.
Strategy Conference of Liberals and Progressives
Support Obama to BE the Obama You Voted For
Strategy Conference of Liberals and Progressives
S.F. Feb. 15
D.C. June 11-14
Constitutional Amendments to Restrain Corporate Power and Require Corporate Social Responsibility
Support Obama to BE the Obama Americans Thought They Elected
Other Strategies for the years aheadI’d go, except that I don’t have twenty bucks to waste, and also I used to work for Michael, for four months, and also I have an allergic reaction to him, Peter Gabel and Medea Benjamin.
It’s a pity. I would have liked to meet Swami Beyondananda.
Its only $20? What happened to Liberal Elitist standards?
621 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:57:44pm |
re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist
‘Tis a pity the rabbinic worlds “תיקון עולם” are now associated with these twerps.
622 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:58:04pm |
re: #609 soap_man
At least they give us real money, instead of IOUs like CA.
True that. But our state is not as loopy as Cali. More corrupt but also more prone to contact with reality.
623 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:58:22pm |
re: #619 jamesfirecat
Its only $20? What happened to Liberal Elitist standards?
They get you on the back end —book sales, aura reading. time-shares in Tibet ….
624 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 9:59:09pm |
re: #622 Dark_Falcon
True that. But our state is not as loopy as Cali. More corrupt but also more prone to contact with reality.
Of course, the most important part of any Con is knowing how the mark thinks…
Or at least so I’d assume from watching Leverage….
625 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:00:50pm |
re: #619 jamesfirecat
Its only $20? What happened to Liberal Elitist standards?
It’s on a very elaborate sliding scale according to income. Also, I think they get all the speakers free.
626 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:01:18pm |
re: #621 Cato the Elder
‘Tis a pity the rabbinic worlds “תיקון עולם” are now associated with these twerps.
Yeah. It is.
627 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:01:57pm |
re: #623 ggt
They get you on the back end —book sales, aura reading. time-shares in Tibet ….
And if that doesn’t work, Michael condescends to you until you sign a check in complete desperation.
628 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:02:01pm |
re: #622 Dark_Falcon
True that. But our state is not as loopy as Cali. More corrupt but also more prone to contact with reality.
Reminds me of that old joke from Conan: “If the U.S. is a family, California is that jackass cousin that show up at the reunion and makes a fool of himself. All the parents warn about him. ‘Now study hard in school because you don’t to end up like cousin California.’”
He then does an impression of California. I wish I know where it was, since it really illustrates the quote.
629 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:02:15pm |
630 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:02:44pm |
re: #629 Cato the Elder
ΠΙΜΦ: “words”
Though I guess “worlds” fits too, kabalistically speaking.
It does, remarkably well, actually.
632 | cliffster Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:05:26pm |
I’m gonna have to check out. Night all. And Cato - here’s the Irish proverb that my dad had hanging in our kitchen when I was a little dude:
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
I’m not, y’know, saying that to you, but, you know.
633 | soap_man Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:06:14pm |
634 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:07:02pm |
re: #627 SanFranciscoZionist
And if that doesn’t work, Michael condescends to you until you sign a check in complete desperation.
Lets go clean up this place kids!
YAYYY!
And why are we gonna do it?
LIBERAL GUILT!
(Simpsons episode where Bart became what amounted to a boy scout)
635 | laZardo Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:08:04pm |
re: #634 jamesfirecat
That’s gayer than a bunch of men getting in a pile and having sex with each other.
/TUK ER JERR!
636 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:08:28pm |
re: #632 cliffster
I’m gonna have to check out. Night all. And Cato - here’s the Irish proverb that my dad had hanging in our kitchen when I was a little dude:
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of His hand.I’m not, y’know, saying that to you, but, you know.
Dude, that’s the hym my Presbyterian church closes every Sunday with….
637 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:08:50pm |
re: #635 laZardo
That’s gayer than a bunch of men getting in a pile and having sex with each other.
/TUK ER JERR!
DURK A DURR!!
638 | jamesfirecat Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:09:08pm |
re: #636 jamesfirecat
Dude, that’s the hym my Presbyterian church closes every Sunday with…
Well actually as I remember we sang it “may the wind blow at your back”
639 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:09:23pm |
Did I miss something? Am I hallucinating? Cliffster’s avatar shows as Cato’s. Is it only me?
640 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:10:06pm |
re: #639 Silvergirl
Did I miss something? Am I hallucinating? Cliffster’s avatar shows as Cato’s. Is it only me?
It’s like a Lost episode.
641 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:10:24pm |
re: #639 Silvergirl
Did I miss something? Am I hallucinating? Cliffster’s avatar shows as Cato’s. Is it only me?
Stop bogarting the j!
642 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:10:40pm |
re: #629 Cato the Elder
I want to wish you well.
I also want you to stay in touch with Walter.
You’re an edumacated adult, you will make the best the best decisions available to you.
{{{Cato}}}
Be well, my friend.
643 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:11:08pm |
644 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:11:50pm |
re: #639 Silvergirl
Did I miss something? Am I hallucinating? Cliffster’s avatar shows as Cato’s. Is it only me?
It’s not just you.
645 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:12:35pm |
646 | Professor Chaos Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:12:46pm |
647 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:15:38pm |
re: #639 Silvergirl
Did I miss something? Am I hallucinating? Cliffster’s avatar shows as Cato’s. Is it only me?
Doesn’t show that way for me. YET.
Pass it over here!
;)
648 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:16:54pm |
Maybe it’s a veiled reference, like, “I am Spartacus”?
Too tired, too late, see you all tomorrow…
650 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:23:41pm |
651 | ryannon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:26:04pm |
re: #205 Obdicut
There are so many great stories to be told about the captains and sergeants of the Red Army.
Have you read The Face of Battle, by the way?
Red Army Choir, Meadowlands
652 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:27:37pm |
I gotta go for real.
Have a great evening all!
653 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:27:46pm |
re: #650 Bagua
Hey, Bagua! How are you doing!
I don’t seem to “see” you much, lately!
655 | Bagua Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:36:27pm |
re: #653 Floral Giraffe
Hi Floral Giraffe, all is well with the world, but I fear for the grammar and syntax in this bit of cyber space should we be deprived of Cato for very long.
657 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:36:52pm |
Cato, get back here soon. You know?
658 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:37:54pm |
re: #656 SanFranciscoZionist
Good night, everyone.
Sleep the sleep of the blessed.
And have a fabulous day, tomorrow!
{SFZ}
660 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:45:52pm |
Things are basically quiet, so I’ll sign off too. Sleep well all, and Cato, you make sure you stop by at times. You are liked and respected here and we don’t want to be without you entirely.
661 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:49:05pm |
re: #660 Dark_Falcon
Things are basically quiet, so I’ll sign off too. Sleep well all, and Cato, you make sure you stop by at times. You are liked and respected here and we don’t want to be without you entirely.
The silences deafens!
We can use it as a moment of silence for Cato’s departure.
662 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:51:13pm |
re: #661 Silvergirl
The silences deafens!
We can use it as a moment of silence for Cato’s departure.
No, I will use it as a moment to contemplate the joy of his return.
Sooner, rather than later.
663 | ryannon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:56:29pm |
re: #610 ggt
Why don’t you start a blog, and live off the ad revenue? Appropriate a laptop and a wireless card and document your travels in your own special way.
“The Cross-Country Curmudgeon”
Have you tried?
And once out of Baltimore and in a more congenial setting, you might find all kind of employment possibilities - from barman to sub-teacher….
664 | Silvergirl Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:57:48pm |
re: #662 Floral Giraffe
No, I will use it as a moment to contemplate the joy of his return.
Sooner, rather than later.
That works, too.
665 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 9, 2010 10:57:55pm |
Monty Python’s
“Flying Sheep”.
Youtube Video
666 | ryannon Tue, Feb 9, 2010 11:14:08pm |
re: #502 Cato the Elder
I’m going to get in my car when this snowstorm is over and drive until the gas runs out. Then I start walking.
With all respect, there’s something in the subtext of your posts that doesn’t compute…. I hope it’s just a bad case of February Blues and nothing more serious. But whatever is going on, may you see your way through it - just as you’ve done before, and just as we all have done in our own lives.
Hang in there and wait for the sky to lighten - it always does.