Teabonics Sign of the Day: Obama is a Shoe
From a tea party demonstration at an appearance by Barack Obama in Buffalo, New York.
(Hat tip: KT.)
From a tea party demonstration at an appearance by Barack Obama in Buffalo, New York.
(Hat tip: KT.)
1 | jamesfirecat Fri, May 14, 2010 9:39:44am |
Obama is a flip flop.
This has been your Teabonics translation of the day.
2 | Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, May 14, 2010 9:39:53am |
I'm pretty sure it's a flip flop. An evil red one.
/
4 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 9:40:13am |
I pictured him as more of an action pump, or perhaps a dress casual low heel myself.
5 | Killgore Trout Fri, May 14, 2010 9:41:07am |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
Obama is a flip flop.
This has been your Teabonics translation of the day.
SHINO!
(Shoe in name only)
6 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 9:42:30am |
Obama is a thong? Don't tell Bill Clinton.
7 | Fozzie Bear Fri, May 14, 2010 9:42:40am |
I like how he is holding his hat over his heart. He might just be confused. He spotted a flag at that moment, a military uniform, and smelled apple pie. It was just too much America for him, and the hat came off.
9 | Iron-Confederate Fri, May 14, 2010 9:43:18am |
That's it? An intentional pun is a typo? Notify me if someone does something actually stupid like misspelling AC/DC. (sarcasm intended)
10 | Killgore Trout Fri, May 14, 2010 9:43:41am |
Brown Shoes Don't Make It
12 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 9:44:51am |
re: #2 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm pretty sure it's a flip flop. An evil red one.
/
In Hawaii they call those 'slippers'.
13 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 9:46:32am |
re: #11 MandyManners
At least he's not a Persian shoe.
No, but it might be a Kenyan shoe. We need to see his Nirth Certifikate to find out!
//
14 | Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, May 14, 2010 9:46:54am |
re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist
In Hawaii they call those 'slippers'.
In Florida they're called "Enough of a shoe to be allowed in the bar".:)
15 | Killgore Trout Fri, May 14, 2010 9:47:57am |
The guy to the left has Teabonics going on too.
"RePeal Obama's Health Care"
16 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 9:48:32am |
re: #13 Dark_Falcon
No, but it might be a Kenyan shoe. We need to see his Nirth Certifikate to find out!
//
I've looked for that thread to no avail.
17 | cliffster Fri, May 14, 2010 9:49:02am |
18 | Locker Fri, May 14, 2010 9:50:24am |
Where I'm from they call those "thongs" and I really don't wanna imagine what "Obama is a Thong" actually means.
20 | Killgore Trout Fri, May 14, 2010 9:52:38am |
re: #18 Locker
Where I'm from they call those "thongs" and I really don't wanna imagine what "Obama is a Thong" actually means.
Sisqo - Thong Song
NSFW
21 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 14, 2010 9:55:11am |
Breaking from the UK:
Ex-minister Stephen Timms stabbed at constituency event
Former Labour minister Stephen Timms is in hospital after being stabbed.Police said Mr Timms, 54, was stabbed in the stomach at a constituency event in Newham, east London, but stressed his injuries were not life-threatening.
A 21-year old woman has been arrested after the attack at about 1500 BST but police have not given further details about what happened.
Mr Timms served at the Treasury under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown and was recently re-elected as MP for East Ham.
The MP is reported to be sitting up in Royal London Hospital and talking to staff.
I can't find any info on the woman who stabbed him.
22 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 9:55:12am |
23 | pharmmajor Fri, May 14, 2010 9:55:19am |
Oh my god... this means that the shoes have learned to take human form! Our species is doomed!
24 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 9:55:19am |
re: #3 Charles
Not just a shoe - a commie shoe.
A flip flop -- he's stuck in the past when Kerry was running ! :)
25 | Killgore Trout Fri, May 14, 2010 9:55:41am |
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
27 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 9:56:03am |
re: #21 NJDhockeyfan
Breaking from the UK:
Ex-minister Stephen Timms stabbed at constituency event
I can't find any info on the woman who stabbed him.
And our politicians thought our town-hall meetings were tough.
28 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 9:56:10am |
OT: This week saw a major exhibition of military equipment called SOFEX. Here's an interesting story from the exhibition:
29 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 9:56:56am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
I can see her toes.
31 | cliffster Fri, May 14, 2010 10:02:51am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
They could probably use her out in the gulf. She could take care of a quarter of the spill in one giant slurp
32 | What, me worry? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:03:33am |
Oh come on, we all know it's Palin who is a shoe! The hussy!
33 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:04:50am |
Palin: 'Mama grizzlies' will take back US
Palin challenged Republican women — "mama grizzlies," she called them — to help the GOP "take this country back" and elect anti-abortion lawmakers. She praised female leaders of the tea party movement and invoked her 2008 acceptance speech where she compared herself to a pit bull.
"You don't want to mess with moms who are rising up," Palin said. "If you thought pit bulls were tough, you don't want to mess with mama grizzlies."
Palin also criticized the media, singling out their coverage of her daughter Bristol, whose pregnancy was announced days after Palin was named the vice presidential nominee. Bristol Palin is a single mother who works on an abstinence-only campaign.
"Choosing life was the right road, the right choice. ... It hasn't been easy and society, culture sure hasn't been easy on her," Palin said. "Wow, our culture and our media has made it rough on her."
She said some young women would see what happened to Bristol and perhaps be encouraged to seek an abortion instead of facing similar criticism.
She cast herself as a victim of a liberal media and elite academics.
34 | Killgore Trout Fri, May 14, 2010 10:05:02am |
Their Dirty Little Secret: GOP Senators Say Bailouts Worked -- Just Please Don't Tell Anyone!
That puts Republicans in a strange position: unable to say the legislation failed, but at pains to distance themselves from their vote nonetheless. Over the past couple days, I've asked a number of GOP senators whether, nearly two years later, they think the bailout bill was effective. Their answers were revealing.
Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH), who's retiring at the end of the year and is therefore unencumbered by the need to defend himself from the GOP base, has nothing to run away from.
"It was extremely effective," Gregg told me. "Not only was it effective and stabilized the financial industry, it also returned to the taxpayers almost $20 billion in interest and dividends that they would have otherwise not have."
This article is also posted in the Hot Air Headlines section. Hot Air readers have never heard anything so insane.
35 | Renaissance_Man Fri, May 14, 2010 10:05:20am |
Chinese scientists find industrial use for cigarette butts
Your challenge, should you choose to accept it: imagine that you are an editor for the biased 'news' organisation of your choice. Rewrite this story to push your narrative and inspire as many links and memes in the appropriate echo chamber blogosphere as possible.
36 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:05:31am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
TIS A BANSHEE!
37 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, May 14, 2010 10:06:13am |
"That really hurt! I'm going to have a lump there, you idiot. Who throws a shoe!? Honestly, you fight like a woman!"
39 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:07:46am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
The far left is as stupid as ever. Nationalization never works well.
40 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, May 14, 2010 10:07:47am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
Is she wearing a yarmulke?
41 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, May 14, 2010 10:08:23am |
re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
She cast herself as a victim of a liberal media and elite academics.
Yeah what's new. All while forgetting to mention she QUIT as Gov.
42 | What, me worry? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:09:28am |
re: #40 Alouette
Is she wearing a yarmulke?
Hard to tell. How do we know she's a leftie? Righties are in favor of oil spills?
43 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:10:08am |
re: #41 Stanley Sea
Yeah what's new. All while forgetting to mention she QUIT as Gov.
Grizzlies are known for quitting their jobs and going on book tours and the lecture circuit.
44 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 14, 2010 10:12:56am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
She looks like a female version of the jihad guy.
45 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:13:15am |
re: #41 Stanley Sea
Yeah what's new. All while forgetting to mention she QUIT as Gov.
To be fair, she really did need to quit. The way ethics complaints can be filed up in Alaska had left her drowning in a sea of red ink. I just wish she'd said that honestly: "I need money and can't make it at this job. So I'm quitting to do things that pay more."
46 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 10:13:41am |
Overly cute and wonderful picture of the day.
I was getting some coffee this morning and saw this out the window... there are seven of them, a whole family (the seventh is behind the one at the tree in the left background)... been hanging around the neighborhood since spring started...
47 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:14:09am |
FBI files discuss Cronkite aiding Vietnam protesters
Legendary CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite allegedly collaborated with anti-Vietnam War activists in the 1960s, going so far as to offer advice on how to raise the public profile of protests and even pledging CBS News resources to help pull off events, according to FBI documents obtained by Yahoo! News.
The documents, obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, say that in November 1969, Cronkite encouraged students at Rollins College in Winter Park, Fla., to invite Maine Sen. Edmund Muskie to address a protest they were planning near Cape Kennedy (now known as Cape Canaveral). Cronkite told the group's leader that Muskie would be nearby for a fundraiser on the day of the protest, and said that "CBS would rent [a] helicopter to take Muskie to and from site of rally," according to the documents.
The claims are contained in an FBI memo recounting a confidential informant's report on a November 1969 meeting of a Rollins College protest group called Youth for New America. The group was planning rallies near Cape Kennedy on Nov. 13 and 14 — the latter being day of the Apollo 12 launch from Cape Kennedy, which President Nixon would be attending — as part of a nationwide Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam. That protest action culminated in a huge march on Washington on Nov. 15.
48 | Nimed Fri, May 14, 2010 10:14:13am |
It just goes to show that all that stuff about teabaggers being close minded is baseless. Who would have guessed that they are fans of pop art?
49 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 10:17:27am |
re: #40 Alouette
Is she wearing a yarmulke?
OT- I blew the circuit breaker in my office, so I had to reboot. I answered your question about Passover on the last thread, FYI.
50 | Fozzie Bear Fri, May 14, 2010 10:17:52am |
re: #49 Walter L. Newton
OT- I blew the circuit breaker in my office, so I had to reboot. I answered your question about Passover on the last thread, FYI.
Was the circuit breaker happy after?
52 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 10:18:43am |
re: #28 Dark_Falcon
OT: This week saw a major exhibition of military equipment called SOFEX. Here's an interesting story from the exhibition:
Ooh. A new pretty.
53 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:18:43am |
Broken promises or flip-flops?
[Link: politifact.com...]
(i love the truth-o-meter...)
and I can now file this under I should have known:
[Link: crooksandliars.com...]
and is it freakin or freakin'?
Help me grammar police.
54 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, May 14, 2010 10:19:31am |
re: #45 Dark_Falcon
To be fair, she really did need to quit. The way ethics complaints can be filed up in Alaska had left her drowning in a sea of red ink. I just wish she'd said that honestly: "I need money and can't make it at this job. So I'm quitting to do things that pay more."
DF, that's not true. There's an Alaska blog that analyzed the whole thingy. Very detailed, researched and documented.
The drowning in ethics charges was Palin's line, and it has been bought by the average person.
[Link: www.henkimaa.com...]
55 | Spare O'Lake Fri, May 14, 2010 10:20:17am |
Heh...flip-flop...heh...red...heh...
Pretty darn clever and funny.
56 | Nimed Fri, May 14, 2010 10:20:32am |
re: #6 Cato the Elder
Cato, I have answered your comments about atheism in the other thread. I would ask you to read it before repeating your claims that all atheists reclaim some sort of intellectual superiority over believers.
57 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:21:03am |
U.S. Approval of Killing of Cleric Causes Unease
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s decision to authorize the killing by the Central Intelligence Agency of a terrorism suspect who is an American citizen has set off a debate over the legal and political limits of drone missile strikes, a mainstay of the campaign against terrorism.
The notion that the government can, in effect, execute one of its own citizens far from a combat zone, with no judicial process and based on secret intelligence, makes some legal authorities deeply uneasy.
To eavesdrop on the terrorism suspect who was added to the target list, the American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is hiding in Yemen, intelligence agencies would have to get a court warrant. But designating him for death, as C.I.A. officials did early this year with the National Security Council’s approval, required no judicial review.
“Congress has protected Awlaki’s cellphone calls,” said Vicki Divoll, a former C.I.A. lawyer who now teaches at the United States Naval Academy. “But it has not provided any protections for his life. That makes no sense.”
Administration officials take the view that no legal or constitutional rights can protect Mr. Awlaki, a charismatic preacher who has said it is a religious duty to attack the United States and who the C.I.A. believes is actively plotting violence. The attempted bombing of Times Square on May 1 is the latest of more than a dozen terrorist plots in the West that investigators believe were inspired in part by Mr. Awlaki’s rhetoric.
“American citizenship doesn’t give you carte blanche to wage war against your own country,” said a counterterrorism official who discussed the classified program on condition of anonymity. “If you cast your lot with its enemies, you may well share their fate.”
58 | cliffster Fri, May 14, 2010 10:21:29am |
I'm still trying to figure out the flip-flop-as-insult thing. I didn't vote for Obama because I didn't like the stuff he said he was going to do. I'm overjoyed if he does a lot of flip-flopping. This guy wants Obama to keep his promises?
59 | subsailor68 Fri, May 14, 2010 10:21:38am |
re: #28 Dark_Falcon
OT: This week saw a major exhibition of military equipment called SOFEX. Here's an interesting story from the exhibition:
Thanks for that link! I have a 19 and a 26, both of which I love. But - I'm left handed, and the enlarged and reversible magazine release would be wonderful!
60 | Fozzie Bear Fri, May 14, 2010 10:22:29am |
re: #58 cliffster
I'm still trying to figure out the flip-flop-as-insult thing. I didn't vote for Obama because I didn't like the stuff he said he was going to do. I'm overjoyed if he does a lot of flip-flopping. This guy wants Obama to keep his promises?
I think it has just become a slogan. Once you repeat something enough, it becomes a rallying cry rather than a vessel for specific meaning.
61 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:22:35am |
re: #54 Stanley Sea
DF, that's not true. There's an Alaska blog that analyzed the whole thingy. Very detailed, researched and documented.
The drowning in ethics charges was Palin's line, and it has been bought by the average person.
[Link: www.henkimaa.com...]
Palin is a liar and a grifter.
She was looking for a reason, any reason, to be able to get out of her obligations to the state of Alaska.
The few ethics complaints were her golden ticket.
The job had gotten hard and boring and it was keeping her from the big money score.
62 | Spare O'Lake Fri, May 14, 2010 10:23:47am |
re: #58 cliffster
I'm still trying to figure out the flip-flop-as-insult thing. I didn't vote for Obama because I didn't like the stuff he said he was going to do. I'm overjoyed if he does a lot of flip-flopping. This guy wants Obama to keep his promises?
There was a time when keeping one's word meant something.
63 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, May 14, 2010 10:25:06am |
Here's the original post by Henkimaa if anyone is interested. The one I posted before was a follow up.
[Link: www.henkimaa.com...]
64 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 14, 2010 10:25:31am |
Wall Street bigs $kip O's glitzy Apple gala
Wall Street bigs snubbed President Obama last night at a big-bucks campaign fund-raiser at The St. Regis hotel in Midtown.The gala -- where tickets went for as much as $50,000 a couple and whose proceeds were going to Democratic candidates -- featured stars such as Sarah Jessica Parker and Democratic Party regulars but few, if any, executives from the city's leading financial institutions.
That was no accident, according to Democrats on Capitol Hill and Wall Street sources who say those in the financial industry are tired of being the punching bag for Obama and Democrats crafting legislation to tightly regulate them.
"They may support individuals, but not the party," one House Democratic lawmaker said.
"I think there's been some pushback from the [financial] community."
Other Democrats said that, indeed, Wall Street money has dried up for the party, and an official from one of the major investment firms confirmed that its people were staying away from The St. Regis.
"We won't be attending," the official said.
While the event drew executives from a number of private-equity firms, leaders from big outfits like Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank and JP Morgan were nowhere to be found.
65 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:25:57am |
re: #62 Spare O'Lake
There was a time when keeping one's word meant something.
I give you the truth-o-meter:
[Link: politifact.com...]
BTW, do you keep every promise you make?
66 | kingkenrod Fri, May 14, 2010 10:25:57am |
re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
There's not a problem with this is Awlaki is a legitimate military target and we are at war.
But Obama can't have it both ways. If we are at war, why are captured military targets being given criminal trials? If we are not at war, why are we authorizing the assassination of military targets?
67 | Ericus58 Fri, May 14, 2010 10:26:27am |
re: #32 marjoriemoon
Oh come on, we all know it's Palin who is a shoe! The hussy!
I think I have a new-found fetish...
*snicker*
68 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 10:26:36am |
re: #56 Nimed
Cato, I have answered your comments about atheism in the other thread. I would ask you to read it before repeating your claims that all atheists reclaim some sort of intellectual superiority over believers.
At least you're not requiring me to read it.
OK, I read it.
You can't, by the way, reclaim something you say you never claimed.
69 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:26:51am |
70 | Spare O'Lake Fri, May 14, 2010 10:26:52am |
re: #65 webevintage
I give you the truth-o-meter:
[Link: politifact.com...]BTW, do you keep every promise you make?
I cannot tell a lie.
71 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:26:53am |
re: #61 webevintage
Whether or not you approve of Palin's career moves, ' grifter ' is not
applicable. If she's indicted for fraud, I may reconsider.
73 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:28:09am |
74 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:28:14am |
re: #71 tradewind
Whether or not you approve of Palin's career moves, ' grifter ' is not
applicable. If she's indicted for fraud, I may reconsider.
Sorry, she's a con artist of the worst kind.
75 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:29:25am |
re: #71 tradewind
Whether or not you approve of Palin's career moves, ' grifter ' is not
applicable. If she's indicted for fraud, I may reconsider.
Can we use mountebank?
76 | Fozzie Bear Fri, May 14, 2010 10:29:38am |
re: #71 tradewind
Whether or not you approve of Palin's career moves, ' grifter ' is not
applicable. If she's indicted for fraud, I may reconsider.
She's a grifter.
77 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 10:29:58am |
OO Alert!
The teabaggers have dug up Kagan's college thesis.
It would seem she was a - gasp! - socialist in her youth.
Clouds of outraged outrage boiling through the wingnutosphere as we speak.
Take shelter!
78 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:30:25am |
re: #59 subsailor68
Thanks for that link! I have a 19 and a 26, both of which I love. But - I'm left handed, and the enlarged and reversible magazine release would be wonderful!
Glad to help.
80 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:30:36am |
Meanwhile Crazy Michelle is yammering about how we shouldn't have bailed out Greece ....
/which we did not....
81 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:30:45am |
re: #69 webevintage
Better save some life support for the Dem politicians who are going to be wondering where the money's coming from this November if Wall St. shuts down the gravy train.
82 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:30:54am |
re: #53 webevintage
and is it freakin or freakin'?
Help me grammar police.
Really I'd like to know.
Maybe Breitbart wrote the copy for the billboard and that's why there is a typo.
83 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:32:13am |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
OO Alert!
The teabaggers have dug up Kagan's college thesis.
It would seem she was a - gasp! - socialist in her youth.
Clouds of outraged outrage boiling through the wingnutosphere as we speak.
Take shelter!
ZOMG!!!!!!
Plus she played softball.....
You know what that means.
(actually i had no idea that only lesbians played softball....)
84 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:32:27am |
re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I understand the unease, but there's nothing for it. We can't go in and arrest this scumbag, so we have to kill him if we get the chance. He is waging war against us, and that justifies killing him.
86 | subsailor68 Fri, May 14, 2010 10:33:20am |
re: #83 webevintage
ZOMG!!!
Plus she played softball...
You know what that means.(actually i had no idea that only lesbians played softball...)
Aha! That explains why I was always picked last!
;-)
87 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 10:33:33am |
re: #65 webevintage
I give you the truth-o-meter:
[Link: politifact.com...]BTW, do you keep every promise you make?
Yeah. Don't you know. It's pretty outrageous. It wasn't until Obama became president did we start to see the lies and flip-flops coming from the White House.
/
(The funny thing is that he's flopped more toward the right side of the political sphere.)
88 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:34:18am |
re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
If you're not picky. Some people will swallow anything.
89 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:35:04am |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
I understand the unease, but there's nothing for it. We can't go in and arrest this scumbag, so we have to kill him if we get the chance. He is waging war against us, and that justifies killing him.
I don't see a problem with it either. Open declaration of war, engaging in terrorist acts, pretty cut and dry to me.
90 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:35:24am |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
I understand the unease, but there's nothing for it. We can't go in and arrest this scumbag, so we have to kill him if we get the chance. He is waging war against us, and that justifies killing him.
not that much unease, apparently. another in the long list of NYTimes articles which uses the "some are uneasy" line to bolster an article in which, apparently, only one is uneasy. (well, two if we assume that the reporter is also uneasy)
91 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 10:35:41am |
92 | Leonidas Hoplite Fri, May 14, 2010 10:36:06am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
She looks like the Mouth of Sauron.
93 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:36:16am |
GOP kills science bill with porno clause....
argggg
94 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 10:36:38am |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
OO Alert!
The teabaggers have dug up Kagan's college thesis.
It would seem she was a - gasp! - socialist in her youth.
Clouds of outraged outrage boiling through the wingnutosphere as we speak.
Take shelter!
Yeah, but where's her birth certificate!!1!!1!
/
95 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, May 14, 2010 10:37:09am |
I used to call flip flops "shower shoes" when I was a kid. So is he saying Obama is a shower shoe? Obama is an SS?! Quick - to the chalkboard!
96 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 10:38:12am |
97 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:38:52am |
99 | William of Orange Fri, May 14, 2010 10:39:53am |
Sickening!
I boggles the mind to comprehend the true magnitude of the Gulf disaster that is unfolding on the coastline of the lower states. Very poignant are the remarks where the narrator says that he counted 30 ships on ground zero and that they were cleaning the oil as if they were using tea cups (which in effect is quite a good anology.)
100 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, May 14, 2010 10:41:46am |
re: #49 Walter L. Newton
OT- I blew the circuit breaker in my office, so I had to reboot. I answered your question about Passover on the last thread, FYI.
OK, thanks.
101 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:42:24am |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Still, you have to give Rep. Hall credit. The way he killed the bill was very clever.
Between jerks like that guy, Texx Marrs, Ron Paul, Perry, Joe Barton and a multitude of other dim fucks in TX, I'm almost at the point of saying "Screw secession, kick them the hell out of the union, but give the sane people time to emigrate North first..."
102 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 10:42:36am |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
OO Alert!
The teabaggers have dug up Kagan's college thesis.
It would seem she was a - gasp! - socialist in her youth.
Clouds of outraged outrage boiling through the wingnutosphere as we speak.
Take shelter!
Did she write her thesis on "Why I'm a Socialist and How I plan to Use the Law to Overthrow the Capitalist Regime and Instate the Glorious Workers' Paradise"?
103 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:43:04am |
re: #80 Thanos
Legislation is being introduced to preempt just that, although the numbers probably aren't there . US dollars could be put to better use than propping up Greeks working twenty-hour weeks.
104 | Ericus58 Fri, May 14, 2010 10:43:10am |
Barack Obama: No more cosying up to oil industry
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Promising "relentless" efforts to stop the oil leak, he rebuked oil industry executives for seeking to pass on blame for the disaster.
He condemned "the ridiculous spectacle" of oil executives "falling over each other to point the finger of blame".
Mr Obama was speaking after meeting his cabinet at the White House.
A lack of vigilant oversight contributed to the oil rig explosion, he said in the Rose Garden.
Federal regulators had, he said, sometimes approved drilling plans based on the oil companies' promises to use safe practices.
The rule from now on, the president said, would be "trust but verify".
Now where did that phrase come from ....
105 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, May 14, 2010 10:43:35am |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
OO Alert!
The teabaggers have dug up Kagan's college thesis.
It would seem she was a - gasp! - socialist in her youth.
Clouds of outraged outrage boiling through the wingnutosphere as we speak.
Take shelter!
She wrote about socialism. That doesn't necessarily mean she was one.
107 | Lidane Fri, May 14, 2010 10:44:01am |
re: #96 webevintage
Why do Republicans hate science?
I've been asking that for ages now. The only thing I can figure is they're caving in to the socons to keep them voting. I don't know.
Oh, and on another note, yes Caribou Barbie is a grifter. I can't think of a word that describes her more perfectly.
108 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:44:08am |
re: #103 tradewind
Show me where and how we are "bailing out greece" please.
109 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 10:44:32am |
re: #80 Thanos
Meanwhile Crazy Michelle is yammering about how we shouldn't have bailed out Greece ...
/which we did not...
Whatever influence we might have played in that, bailing out Greece was probably a good idea. If a Euro nation defaults, it's going to bring down the Eurozone, which is going to have very, very bad effects on the EU.
I'm not sure that the Eurozone is a good idea, but removal through collapse is definitely not the way to end it. Not unless we want to have to worry about an extremely destabilized ally.
110 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:44:55am |
111 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 10:45:39am |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Still, you have to give Rep. Hall credit. The way he killed the bill was very clever.
Rep. Ralph Hall (R-TX). Former "conservative Democrat." Switched partied in 2004. Had ties with Jack Abramoff. States he was one of the founders of the "Blue Dogs."
112 | cliffster Fri, May 14, 2010 10:45:48am |
re: #101 Thanos
Between jerks like that guy, Texx Marrs, Ron Paul, Perry, Joe Barton and a multitude of other dim fucks in TX, I'm almost at the point of saying "Screw secession, kick them the hell out of the union, but give the sane people time to emigrate North first..."
114 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:47:08am |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Still, you have to give Rep. Hall credit. The way he killed the bill was very clever.
yep, i wrote about this the other day. clever maneuver, no more or less immoral than Reid bringing out the financial reform bill for a vote while progress was still being made behind closed doors.
both parties do it...no need to get our partisan boxers in a bunch...
115 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:47:15am |
re: #103 tradewind
Legislation is being introduced to preempt just that, although the numbers probably aren't there . US dollars could be put to better use than propping up Greeks working twenty-hour weeks.
Quite Concur. We should not be subsidizing bad habits.
Though there was a protest by a bunch of far-left goons in front of the Greek consulate in Chicago yesterday. They were actually the supporting the arsonists who torched that bank and killed three people. Utterly insane. I took a picture and I'll try to upload it today.
116 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 10:47:48am |
117 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:48:16am |
re: #115 Dark_Falcon
Show me where we are bailing out Greece please.
118 | Leonidas Hoplite Fri, May 14, 2010 10:48:20am |
re: #109 ~Fianna
Whatever influence we might have played in that, bailing out Greece was probably a good idea. If a Euro nation defaults, it's going to bring down the Eurozone, which is going to have very, very bad effects on the EU.
I'm not sure that the Eurozone is a good idea, but removal through collapse is definitely not the way to end it. Not unless we want to have to worry about an extremely destabilized ally.
Eurozone won't 'disassemble' in an orderly fashion if it comes to that. German citizens will demand withdrawal and that will be the end of that. It will be a fascinating trainwreck to witness.
119 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:48:28am |
re: #114 Aceofwhat?
yep, i wrote about this the other day. clever maneuver, no more or less immoral than Reid bringing out the financial reform bill for a vote while progress was still being made behind closed doors.
both parties do it...no need to get our partisan boxers in a bunch...
Correct. Nasty Congressional tactics are simply a fact of life. nothing to be done about them really.
120 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:48:34am |
re: #93 Thanos
And 100 Democrats hopped on board.
But yay for those courageous holdouts who held out to defend the right of federal employees to surf/download porn at taxpayer expense.
You gotta fight/
For your right
To par-tay!/
121 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:49:13am |
re: #108 Thanos
Show me where I said we were?
Hope we don't.
122 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:49:27am |
re: #120 tradewind
Show me where and how we are Bailing out Greece?
123 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 10:49:40am |
124 | Fozzie Bear Fri, May 14, 2010 10:49:54am |
re: #121 tradewind
So you're "just asking questions." Got it.
125 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:49:59am |
re: #117 Thanos
Show me where we are bailing out Greece please.
we made loans available on favorable terms in a manner unrelated to Europe's creditworthiness. if that's not a 'bailout', then we didn't bail out nearly as much of Wall Street as previously reported;)
126 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 10:50:11am |
re: #120 tradewind
Show me the Greek 20 hour work week?
127 | JoyousMN Fri, May 14, 2010 10:50:14am |
re: #46 Walter L. Newton
Overly cute and wonderful picture of the day.
I was getting some coffee this morning and saw this out the window... there are seven of them, a whole family (the seventh is behind the one at the tree in the left background)... been hanging around the neighborhood since spring started...
Very cute pic, Walter.
But where the heck is spring in that picture? I live in MN, and even I can't see spring in that picture. *grin*
128 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, May 14, 2010 10:50:20am |
re: #99 William of Orange
[Video]Sickening!
I boggles the mind to comprehend the true magnitude of the Gulf disaster that is unfolding on the coastline of the lower states. Very poignant are the remarks where the narrator says that he counted 30 ships on ground zero and that they were cleaning the oil as if they were using tea cups (which in effect is quite a good anology.)
Thanks for posting that. Heartbreaking to hear him say, "for the first time in my environmental career I find myself using the word hopeless"
129 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:50:40am |
re: #121 tradewind
But you are all for populist demagoguery bills pretending that we are bailing out Greece since you came out in support of Michelle Bachamann's insanity.
130 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:51:16am |
re: #116 MandyManners
They spent all that money on getting ready and then he won't even buy them dinner./
131 | Spider Mensch Fri, May 14, 2010 10:51:43am |
re: #109 ~Fianna
Whatever influence we might have played in that, bailing out Greece was probably a good idea. If a Euro nation defaults, it's going to bring down the Eurozone, which is going to have very, very bad effects on the EU.
I'm not sure that the Eurozone is a good idea, but removal through collapse is definitely not the way to end it. Not unless we want to have to worry about an extremely destabilized ally.
yes...but just for the hell of it..I went through my old money jar from my travels thru Europe in the 80's...75 guilders, 55 francs, a few hundred thousand lira, 50 german marks, a few psetas, 25 shekels..and some damn thing with a hole in it...I'm ready to travel!!..LOL...the whole jar = maybe 100 usd..))) at 1988 exchange rate that I can remember ))
132 | Jeff In Ohio Fri, May 14, 2010 10:51:44am |
133 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 10:52:18am |
re: #127 JoyousMN
Very cute pic, Walter.
But where the heck is spring in that picture? I live in MN, and even I can't see spring in that picture. *grin*
That snow fell last night. We have a short growing season up here in the Rocky Mountains. It's nice when in the middle of summer, it's 15-20 degreed (f) cooler than down in Denver, but until the middle of summer, that difference can cause... well... snow.
134 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:53:03am |
re: #124 Fozzie Bear
No, you don't get it. NTTATWWT, I'm not a mind reader, either.
Just saying that we are 17% of the world bank fund..... and hoping here that we don't take part in any extraordinary new activity.
135 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 10:54:01am |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
That is a great pic, could be a Christmas card kinda photo...
136 | Leonidas Hoplite Fri, May 14, 2010 10:54:12am |
re: #132 Jeff In Ohio
They only hate it when they're caught consuming it - just like everyone else.
137 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 10:54:16am |
Grumble. So our stock market has to go down the toilet because the financial institutions have to prop up a nation where the retirement age is 54?
It's not just the domestic market but the Asian and European markets.
On a side note Bloomberg has a funny typo:
Euro, Stocks, Oil Slump on Debt Concern; Treasuries, Bunds Gain
Buy Bunds! They mean bonds of course.
139 | Jeff In Ohio Fri, May 14, 2010 10:55:03am |
re: #116 MandyManners
Yes, Wall St. regrets they gave all that money to folks who wouldn't bend over and take it in the ass for their narrow interests. I'm sure they will find someone who will.
RENT BOY!!!!
140 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 10:56:03am |
re: #105 Alouette
She wrote about socialism. That doesn't necessarily mean she was one.
You get that. I get that. The nutzaloons won't, no matter how you 'splain it to 'em.
Find me a person of her age who is still vaguely "liberal" today and who wasn't into some vague form of "socialism" back then, and I'll give you a free subscription to Sigma's Stock Tips on Twitter.
Oh, wait...
141 | Nimed Fri, May 14, 2010 10:57:47am |
re: #3 Charles
Not just a shoe - a commie shoe.
From each according to his durability, to each according to his polish.
142 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 10:58:16am |
143 | JoyousMN Fri, May 14, 2010 10:58:37am |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
*nods* I know that kind of spring...here we say, "oh it melts fast," to try and cure our depression at snow in May.
But THIS year we didn't even get snow in MARCH. It's unheard of...some thing like a 140 year old record. Warmest March on record...
144 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 10:58:50am |
re: #129 Thanos
You'd never make it as an editor. The object is to correct grammar and cut the fat, not completely miss the point and substitute your own.
I don't rewrite your posts to reflect what I think you may be thinking. Please criticize with abandon when you disagree, but use what's in front of you.
145 | engineer cat Fri, May 14, 2010 10:59:11am |
teabaggers overwhelmed by those frustrating high tech 'alphabet' and 'spelling' technologies?
146 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 10:59:54am |
Erick son of Erick is fomenting panic over at the Red State Trike Force...
Breaking!!!!! We Have Evidence That Erick Erickson Isn’t Very Bright!!!!!
Shorter Erick Erickson: If, like me, you’re not sufficiently literate to distinguish between normative and empirical arguments, than Elena Kagan is a total socialist!!!!!!! Because everybody pretty much believes everything they believed is an undergraduate!!!!!!!!
I’m not even sure what the point is — I mean, please, torpedo her nomination! — but attempts to prove that Kagan is a radical leftist are going to be especially feeble. Or, in other words, made for Erick Erickson.
It's the freakout over Kagan's undergrad thesis Cato mentioned-- which, by the way, was a completely ordinary undergrad academic thesis.
Well not entirely ordinary-- good enough to get her to Oxford. Which as we all know is only further proof of just how unamerican she is.
ELEETIST!1!
147 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:00:49am |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
Thumbs up or down on ' Across the Sea ' ?
148 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:01:22am |
re: #125 Aceofwhat?
we made loans available on favorable terms in a manner unrelated to Europe's creditworthiness. if that's not a 'bailout', then we didn't bail out nearly as much of Wall Street as previously reported;)
And China has been doing that for US for years.
What, you think America is creditworthy?
149 | Dark_Falcon Fri, May 14, 2010 11:01:37am |
re: #146 iceweasel
Erick son of Erick is fomenting panic over at the Red State Trike Force...
Breaking!!! We Have Evidence That Erick Erickson Isn’t Very Bright!!!
It's the freakout over Kagan's undergrad thesis Cato mentioned-- which, by the way, was a completely ordinary undergrad academic thesis.
Well not entirely ordinary-- good enough to get her to Oxford. Which as we all know is only further proof of just how unamerican she is.
ELEETIST!1!
As for how bright she is, I think I'll take the word of the ABA over some wingnut. Glad to see you, ice. Sadly, I've got to go. BBL
150 | Leonidas Hoplite Fri, May 14, 2010 11:02:03am |
re: #145 engineer dog
teabaggers overwhelmed by those frustrating high tech 'alphabet' and 'spelling' technologies?
Either that or they are products of our awesome public school system.
151 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:02:18am |
re: #118 Leonidas Hoplite
Eurozone won't 'disassemble' in an orderly fashion if it comes to that. German citizens will demand withdrawal and that will be the end of that. It will be a fascinating trainwreck to witness.
There's been some chatter about splitting the Eurozone in to two tiers. That would be an interesting experiment.
152 | subsailor68 Fri, May 14, 2010 11:02:21am |
re: #122 Thanos
Show me where and how we are Bailing out Greece?
Hi Thanos! Sigh, color me confused. Here's an article that talks about the IMF, the U.S. percentages, and so on. But, it appears to be a pretty complicated method IMF uses to calculate which "dollars" are considered usable and which are not.
In either case, it looks like the U.S. contribution (since we're considered "usable") is pretty small compared to the euro-zone countries.
Heh, wish I understood it all a little better, but it would seem we're not bailing Greece out, just contributing a bit through IMF lending decisions. In any case, this appears to be the key:
Will the money be wasted? That depends on whether the Greek electorate swallows the cuts in salary and pensions required by the IMF and the country's European partners and whether a new economic strategy boosts Greece's competitive position.
I hope Greece can turn itself around!
153 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 11:02:29am |
re: #144 tradewind
Lying through omission, the last refuge of the passive agressive pontificator.
you said :
US dollars could be put to better use than propping up Greeks working twenty-hour weeks.
To pretty much further Bachmann's insane Meme that we are somehow bailing out Greece. I caught ya. Too bad.
154 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:02:43am |
re: #148 Cato the Elder
And China has been doing that for US for years.
What, you think America is creditworthy?
ha!
in relative terms...as in, "more creditworthy than Russia"...
155 | engineer cat Fri, May 14, 2010 11:03:23am |
re: #150 Leonidas Hoplite
Either that or they are products of our awesome public school system.
or perhaps home skoolling
156 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:04:45am |
re: #146 iceweasel
Erick son of Erick is fomenting panic over at the Red State Trike Force...
Breaking!!! We Have Evidence That Erick Erickson Isn’t Very Bright!!!
It's the freakout over Kagan's undergrad thesis Cato mentioned-- which, by the way, was a completely ordinary undergrad academic thesis.
Well not entirely ordinary-- good enough to get her to Oxford. Which as we all know is only further proof of just how unamerican she is.
ELEETIST!1!
Let's hope no one stoops to saying that she "envisions an America where police may shoot and kill an unarmed boy to stop him from running away with a stolen purse … where a black man may be sentenced to death by an all-white jury for killing a white man,” or anything of that nature;)
157 | Lidane Fri, May 14, 2010 11:04:58am |
158 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 11:05:28am |
re: #152 subsailor68
I see that "Televangelist Hair" Todd Tiahrt has also jumped on this crazy train from the article.
159 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:05:55am |
re: #148 Cato the Elder
And China has been doing that for US for years.
What, you think America is creditworthy?
Yes. Theoretically, we're next. That's been in the making for decades.
160 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:06:02am |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
This would be a good time for a modified version of your catchphrase, Mandy.
Their saying it to him or, his saying it to them? Both?
161 | califleftyb Fri, May 14, 2010 11:06:16am |
follow the gourd!.... follow the gourd!!!
162 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 11:06:31am |
re: #147 tradewind
Thumbs up or down on ' Across the Sea ' ?
"Up" as far as I'm concerned. A lot of people thought that it was the worst show of the whole series.
163 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:06:58am |
re: #130 tradewind
They spent all that money on getting ready and then he won't even buy them dinner./
Even worse, he left them standing on the stoop.
164 | Jeff In Ohio Fri, May 14, 2010 11:07:27am |
re: #160 MandyManners
Their saying it to him or, his saying it to them? Both?
A chicken in every pot, a golden shower in every bathroom.
165 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:07:28am |
re: #159 Gus 802
Yes. Theoretically, we're next. That's been in the making for decades.
Not theoretically. The next crash is as certain as the next terrorist attack on US soil.
Sigma eerily, presciently knows the date, but for that you have to pay.
166 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:07:48am |
What's the Maine GOP TeA PaRtY up to now?
Insane Maine GOP Conventioneers Also Search, Vandalize Classroom
Earlier this week we learned that the Maine GOP, during its state convention, replaced its standard platform with a hilarious four-page teabagger e-mail that one local reporter could only describe as “a mix of right-wing fringe policies, libertarian buzzwords and outright conspiracy theories.” It turns out, though, that this was only the second most comical thing that the teabaggers did during the convention. Some folks, while caucusing in a rented classroom at the nearby middle school, got it in their heads that the classroom’s teacher was a commie liberal indoctrinating the children with commie liberalism, and so they just dug through all of his stuff and trashed the place.
“We allowed them to use the space and I’m appalled that they would go through a teacher’s things, let alone remove something from a classroom,” [school committee member Sarah] Thompson said Wednesday. “We want the public to use school spaces, but they need to respect that it’s a school and understand that they should leave it the way they find it.”
The Republican State Convention was held at the Portland Exposition Building, which is on Park Avenue, near the middle school. Party members from Knox County caucused in a classroom used by eighth-grade social studies teacher Paul Clifford.
When Clifford returned to school on Monday, he found that a favorite poster about the U.S. labor movement had been taken and replaced with a bumper sticker that read, “Working People Vote Republican.”
Later, Clifford learned that his classroom had been searched. Republicans who had attended the convention called Principal Mike McCarthy to complain about “anti-American” things they saw there, including a closed box containing copies of the U.S. Constitution that were published by the American Civil Liberties Union.
They called someone named McCarthy to complain about how unamerican the teacher was. Nice!
167 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:08:30am |
re: #165 Cato the Elder
Not theoretically. The next crash is as certain as the next terrorist attack on US soil.
Sigma eerily, presciently knows the date, but for that you have to pay.
Remember: gold may go up, but it may also go down...
168 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:08:34am |
re: #153 Thanos
US dollars could be put to better use than propping up Greeks working twenty-hour weeks.
Nothing to do with Bachmann. Nothing saying we are bailing out Greece. You are projecting.
Do you agree with that statement above, or not? Either way, not one word you wrote in the answer re: #129 Thanos is an accurate restatement of my post.
BTW... quit lying about your eating habits.... you haven't told us what you had for breakfast.//
(Using your ' logic ').
Please just agree or disagree with what is written, not with what you visualize in an imaginary dialogue balloon above the post.
Okay. Done with that.
169 | goddamnedfrank Fri, May 14, 2010 11:09:37am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
"I'll swallow your soul!" (.wav file)
171 | subsailor68 Fri, May 14, 2010 11:09:46am |
re: #158 Thanos
I see that "Televangelist Hair" Todd Tiahrt has also jumped on this crazy train from the article.
LOL! Yeah! But, as one of the sane Texans down here, I take exception to the Televangelist Hair comment. Everybody knows he can't hold a candle to Perry's hair.
Well, now that I think about it, I guess he could, but both their hair would go up like dried cedar in a prairie fire.
;-)
172 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:10:38am |
re: #171 subsailor68
LOL! Yeah! But, as one of the sane Texans down here, I take exception to the Televangelist Hair comment. Everybody knows he can't hold a candle to Perry's hair.
Well, now that I think about it, I guess he could, but both their hair would go up like dried cedar in a prairie fire.
;-)
That's because it's a rug.
173 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:10:38am |
re: #166 iceweasel
What's the Maine
GOPTeA PaRtY up to now?Insane Maine GOP Conventioneers Also Search, Vandalize Classroom
They called someone named McCarthy to complain about how unamerican the teacher was. Nice!
What the heck is going on in Maine? Is there like a giant UFO hovering over the state beaming down bad alien vibes or something?
/
174 | Oh no...Sand People! Fri, May 14, 2010 11:11:06am |
re: #11 MandyManners
At least he's not a Persian shoe.
I remember back in the day that thar quote would have garnered at least 15 updingy's, well, that was back in the day when that thar 'updingy' was steam powered and we walked up hill to work both ways in the snow.
175 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 11:11:23am |
re: #162 Walter L. Newton
"Up" as far as I'm concerned. A lot of people thought that it was the worst show of the whole series.
A lot of people complained that the episode was trying to explain the whole "mystery" as some new age mystical stuff.
That's not the point. For these people, about 2500 years ago, coming upon that island, it WAS MYSTICAL. The episode was not trying to explain anything from a contemporary point of view.
2500 years later, when Dharma was investigating the Island, what do we find, a lot of science. They were scientifically looking into the mysteries.
And the episode told us so much. The origin of the conflict between Jacob and the MIB, how the rules work (he who is in charge makes up the rules), the origins of the two bodies in the cave, the constant black and white themes, the "game" playing nature of the characters, the fact that what is on the Island, men have and want more of (power?), the fact that Jacob can't lie, I could go on and on...
It was a very revealing episode, framed with in the mindset of the people of that time.
176 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:11:53am |
re: #162 Walter L. Newton
My complaint was Allison Janney. Love her as an actress, but think she is too well-known a character to be inserted into the very last act like that. Kinda like West Wing meets the Island.
BTW.... the man in black plays a crooked DA on The Good Wife.
177 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:12:13am |
re: #173 Gus 802
What the heck is going on in Maine? Is there like a giant UFO hovering over the state beaming down bad alien vibes or something?
/
Please don't say that. I read "The Tommyknockers".
178 | Randall Gross Fri, May 14, 2010 11:12:39am |
re: #168 tradewind
If you honestly think people aren't seeing through your "crazy michelle said it so I must support it slantwise" comment you are nuts yourself buddy.
179 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:12:57am |
WTF?
This is weird.
Sara Isaacson: ROTC Student May Be Forced To Repay Army Scholarship After Coming Out
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill student Sara Isaacson said coming out as a lesbian was a matter of integrity.
But because Isaacson is an ROTC member, her choice to publicly declare her sexuality might cost her $80,000 -- the cost of her tuition so far at UNC, which has been paid for thus far by an ROTC scholarship.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has more...
180 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:13:30am |
re: #175 Walter L. Newton
What was the golden light source? And was crazy mom the original smoke thing?
181 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 11:13:34am |
re: #176 tradewind
My complaint was Allison Janney. Love her as an actress, but think she is too well-known a character to be inserted into the very last act like that. Kinda like West Wing meets the Island.
BTW... the man in black plays a crooked DA on The Good Wife.
I don't watch any other TV, so I don't even know these people, and actors are actors. That wouldn't make any difference to me. How do you take other movie actors playing numerous roles?
182 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, May 14, 2010 11:15:05am |
I just posted a nasty ass link of Pat Buchanan's column today. Yuck, typical and had to be posted.
183 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:15:22am |
re: #178 Thanos
Whatever honey./
I'm sending some tinfoil in a care package.
184 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 11:16:08am |
re: #180 tradewind
What was the golden light source? And was crazy mom the original smoke thing?
It's evident that the crazy mom was keeping the "smoke thing" in check, just like Jacob, just like Ben, but I suspect that she also could summon it if the need warranted. She didn't destroy that village and fill in that well alone.
And when she was killed (by the same knife that Dogan had and Sayid had to kill Locke), she said "thank you."
185 | Walter L. Newton Fri, May 14, 2010 11:17:49am |
Need to take a nap.. have an evening shift tonight. Eat more 4664 you all.
186 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:17:52am |
re: #181 Walter L. Newton
Movies, I suppose I see as a one-of.
I really enjoyed the West Wing series, and she was a major character.
187 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:18:08am |
re: #184 Walter L. Newton
I love LOST, even though i only watched one episode during season 1.
Because it makes tortured reconciliations of the Star Wars narratives seem eminently logical by comparison;)
*ducks*
188 | kernelPanic Fri, May 14, 2010 11:19:20am |
re: #157 Lidane
In related wingnut news:
Barack Obama Goes On Trial Today In Kooky Harlem Church
Heh.
salon.com is live blogging the Harlem trial of Obama. Been a few hours since I checked it but their (poor, poor) guy on the ground has reported that the promised "mass march" never materialized and that so far only ~75 people have shown up instead of the 30,000 they were yelping crazily about.
189 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:19:44am |
re: #182 Stanley Sea
You can sleep tight, knowing that you've done your duty to LGF and your country.
190 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, May 14, 2010 11:19:58am |
191 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:20:17am |
re: #131 Spider Mensch
yes...but just for the hell of it..I went through my old money jar from my travels thru Europe in the 80's...75 guilders, 55 francs, a few hundred thousand lira, 50 german marks, a few psetas, 25 shekels..and some damn thing with a hole in it...I'm ready to travel!!..LOL...the whole jar = maybe 100 usd..))) at 1988 exchange rate that I can remember ))
I must say that traveling within the Eurozone is much easier since you don't have to take a bath to change money every time you change borders.
Not having to go through border security that much is also nifty.
192 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:21:49am |
re: #21 NJDhockeyfan
Breaking from the UK:
Ex-minister Stephen Timms stabbed at constituency event
I can't find any info on the woman who stabbed him.
Yikes.
193 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:22:42am |
re: #184 Walter L. Newton
What was it about Lost?
When it ends this month, will you pick another show?
194 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:22:56am |
re: #21 NJDhockeyfan
Breaking from the UK:
Ex-minister Stephen Timms stabbed at constituency event
I can't find any info on the woman who stabbed him.
It’s not the first time an MP has been attacked in his “surgery”.
In 2000, Liberal Democrat Nigel Jones was wounded and his aide stabbed to death after a frenzied attack with a samurai sword.
I guess British politics are less genteel than one might imagine.
195 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:23:49am |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
Just in case you want to goof on some lefty protesters: Looks like something out of a Harry Potter movie.
Not a flattering look.
196 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:24:04am |
re: #182 Stanley Sea
I just posted a nasty ass link of Pat Buchanan's column today. Yuck, typical and had to be posted.
I've seen that floated by some wingnuts who are even worse than him--
Harry Jackson's Religious Test: Kagan Must Be Defeated Because She Is Not a Protestant
We are not supposed to have religious tests for public office in the United States, but apparently reverse religious test are okay. How else do you explain Harry Jackson declaring that Elena Kagan's nomination to the Supreme Court must be defeated specifically because she is not a Protestant, claiming that a Court made up only of Catholics and Jews is fundamentally unable to "create an atmosphere for true justice":
...
Although Catholics are well represented on the Supreme Court, there will likely be important cases that will need the insight of unbiased evangelicals to create an atmosphere for true justice. Failure of the faith community to engage in the world of politics and processes like the selection of judges could hurt the Christian community decades from now.Protestants must take action today! We should return to the foundations that have made the US great. Further, we must not just act on behalf of our needs, alone. We must lead the country back to the safety of its guiding principles. At the same time, despite our personal views, we must act on behalf of the entire American family – religious and secular alike. Further, we must continue to encourage religious diversity and even atheists to remain true to their beliefs as it relates to the political process. The repression of minority points of view is un-American and petty.
Won't someone think of the Protestants? The poor, poor Protestants?
197 | Spider Mensch Fri, May 14, 2010 11:24:15am |
re: #191 ~Fianna
I must say that traveling within the Eurozone is much easier since you don't have to take a bath to change money every time you change borders.
Not having to go through border security that much is also nifty.
it was my touch at sarcasm ))) that's why I ended up with a jar of all the extra currencies )))
198 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:24:29am |
re: #194 SanFranciscoZionist
It’s not the first time an MP has been attacked in his “surgery”.
In 2000, Liberal Democrat Nigel Jones was wounded and his aide stabbed to death after a frenzied attack with a samurai sword.I guess British politics are less genteel than one might imagine.
The former Treasury minister was holding a constituency surgery in Beckton when he was attacked.
His injuries are not life threatening and he is said to be in "good spirits". A 21-year woman has been arrested.
Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt said there did not appear to be any obvious motive for the attack at this stage.
He said a source had revealed that the suspect was an Asian woman, believed to have mental health problems.
199 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:25:32am |
re: #174 Oh no...Sand People!
I remember back in the day that thar quote would have garnered at least 15 updingy's, well, that was back in the day when that thar 'updingy' was steam powered and we walked up hill to work both ways in the snow.
I wonder how many have seen that video.
200 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, May 14, 2010 11:25:43am |
re: #131 Spider Mensch
yes...but just for the hell of it..I went through my old money jar from my travels thru Europe in the 80's...75 guilders, 55 francs, a few hundred thousand lira, 50 german marks, a few psetas, 25 shekels..and some damn thing with a hole in it...I'm ready to travel!!..LOL...the whole jar = maybe 100 usd..))) at 1988 exchange rate that I can remember ))
LOL, I have 600 rubles from my visit to Russia three years ago. About $10 USD
201 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:25:47am |
re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist
How does someone get that close?
202 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:25:56am |
re: #38 ralphieboy
Is somebody gonna throw Obama at Bush's head?
I'm trying to figure out what the political significance of that would be, but I'm coming up empty.
203 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:26:30am |
re: #179 Gus 802
WTF?
This is weird.
Sara Isaacson: ROTC Student May Be Forced To Repay Army Scholarship After Coming Out
Did she break her contract by coming out?
204 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:26:39am |
re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Grizzlies are known for quitting their jobs and going on book tours and the lecture circuit.
Is that what that bear was doing at Books Inc. the other day?
205 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:27:38am |
re: #203 MandyManners
Did she break her contract by coming out?
Theoretically.
However, that contract, DADT and discrimination against gays is Un-American.
206 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:27:56am |
re: #55 Spare O'Lake
Heh...flip-flop...heh...red...heh...
Pretty darn clever and funny.
Can you explain it? I'm unclear on why the president is a red flip-flop. It certainly doesn't work for me as a 'visual'.
207 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:29:05am |
re: #62 Spare O'Lake
There was a time when keeping one's word meant something.
There may have been, but it wasn't any time recently in American politics.
208 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:29:44am |
re: #203 MandyManners
I guess the working theory is that ROTC candidates agree to serve as officers in the military upon graduation, and under DADT, that would make her application a lie.
Sux, and someone should have just ignored it.
209 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:29:47am |
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
Can you explain it? I'm unclear on why the president is a red flip-flop. It certainly doesn't work for me as a 'visual'.
You have to shut down half of your brain, first. Then the "he's a commie flip-flop" is hurrr hurrr hurrr funny;)
210 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:30:20am |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
OO Alert!
The teabaggers have dug up Kagan's college thesis.
It would seem she was a - gasp! - socialist in her youth.
Clouds of outraged outrage boiling through the wingnutosphere as we speak.
Take shelter!
WAS she a socialist in her youth, or have they panicked over something else they can't read?
211 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:30:25am |
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
Visuals used in protests are often pretty obscure. Thinking about those weird puppets.
212 | martinsmithy Fri, May 14, 2010 11:30:27am |
Here's a book [Link: www.amazon.com...] that I plan to avoid, and I'm sure the teapartiers will lap up like the Prince's dogs lapping up cognac in The Great Race.
213 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:30:49am |
re: #179 Gus 802
WTF?
This is weird.
Sara Isaacson: ROTC Student May Be Forced To Repay Army Scholarship After Coming Out
Truthfully, I'd like to see loads of college kids on ROTC come out as gay. It'd force the military to change sooner, possibly. That change is gonna come anyway...
214 | Jeff In Ohio Fri, May 14, 2010 11:30:57am |
re: #209 Aceofwhat?
You have to shut down half of your brain, first. Then the "he's a commie flip-flop" is hurrr hurrr hurrr funny;)
Ohhhhhh, I thought they were saying he was in the GOP. Now it makes cents.
215 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:31:03am |
re: #205 Gus 802
Theoretically.
However, that contract, DADT and discrimination against gays is Un-American.
But, it was the law at the time she signed the contract. No one forced her to sign it.
216 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:31:10am |
re: #83 webevintage
ZOMG!!!
Plus she played softball...
You know what that means.(actually i had no idea that only lesbians played softball...)
Well-known fact.
217 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:31:54am |
re: #208 tradewind
I guess the working theory is that ROTC candidates agree to serve as officers in the military upon graduation, and under DADT, that would make her application a lie.
Sux, and someone should have just ignored it.
It's not a working theory. It's reality.
218 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:32:28am |
re: #188 kernelPanic
Don't they have anything better to do? They could have offered to help Code Pink arrest Karl Rove!
219 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:33:18am |
re: #217 MandyManners
true dat.
Well, Obama said he'd get right on it.
Soon as he closes Gitmo.
220 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:33:32am |
re: #196 iceweasel
Won't someone think of the Protestants? The poor, poor Protestants?
I was wondering when someone was going to notice that.
Cue the antisemitism.
221 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:33:48am |
re: #166 iceweasel
What's the Maine
GOPTeA PaRtY up to now?Insane Maine GOP Conventioneers Also Search, Vandalize Classroom
They called someone named McCarthy to complain about how unamerican the teacher was. Nice!
I hold it against Obama that he hasn't kept his promise on DADT yet.
If this doesn't give him a good excuse to issue an executive order on the matter, then one would be justified in calling him a red flip-flop.
222 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:33:51am |
re: #215 MandyManners
But, it was the law at the time she signed the contract. No one forced her to sign it.
It's still wrong and needs to be changed pronto.
223 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:34:51am |
re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist
WAS she a socialist in her youth, or have they panicked over something else they can't read?
They panicked because she wrote a perfectly normal academic thesis as an undergrad on socialist movements in nyc from 1900-1933.
Right seizes on false claim that Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist
As one of the brain trust over at Red State said, "Who learns about socialism as an undergrad anyway?"
Yeah, who uses college for learnin'?
224 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:35:33am |
re: #197 Spider Mensch
it was my touch at sarcasm ))) that's why I ended up with a jar of all the extra currencies )))
We still have some Euros left over from our trip to Portugal last December. Already worth about ~12% less then the day we brought them home.
On the bright side, it's looking more and more likely that my best friend and her husband will be able to join us on our trip this December, since it's looking like it's going to be a lot less expensive than last year's trip was.
225 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:36:13am |
re: #166 iceweasel
What's the Maine
GOPTeA PaRtY up to now?Insane Maine GOP Conventioneers Also Search, Vandalize Classroom
They called someone named McCarthy to complain about how unamerican the teacher was. Nice!
If someone did that in my classroom, I would lose it. It was bad enough when I had to share with the Charismatic Catholics.
226 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:36:17am |
re: #223 iceweasel
They panicked because she wrote a perfectly normal academic thesis as an undergrad on socialist movements in nyc from 1900-1933.
Right seizes on false claim that Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist
As one of the brain trust over at Red State said, "Who learns about socialism as an undergrad anyway?"Yeah, who uses college for learnin'?
Hell, I read "The Communist Manifesto" in seventh grade. It was right there on the library shelf.
227 | Daniel Ballard Fri, May 14, 2010 11:36:32am |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
Printed laminated signs. Astro-Turf!
//
228 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:36:47am |
re: #221 Cato the Elder
I hold it against Obama that he hasn't kept his promise on DADT yet.
If this doesn't give him a good excuse to issue an executive order on the matter, then one would be justified in calling him a red flip-flop.
It won't be changed by executive order. Even the vaunted 'executive order' that integrated our military took a few years to implement.
Would I like to see it overturned sooner? Yes.
Am I confident that it will be overturned under Obama? Yes.
229 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:37:11am |
re: #200 Alouette
LOL, I have 600 rubles from my visit to Russia three years ago. About $10 USD
Is getting a visa and traveling through Russia really as much of a pain as I've been lead to believe that it is?
230 | _RememberTonyC Fri, May 14, 2010 11:37:26am |
Obama is a $1.99 flip flop ...
iran expands uranium enrichment ...
DOW is down 200 pts ...
Europe is in flames politically and economically ...
terrorists stalk our biggest city ...
But hey ... no problem .... the CELTICS have moved on to the conference finals
Life is good
231 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:37:48am |
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
If you ask me, that shoe sign is a croc.
232 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:38:02am |
re: #226 Cato the Elder
Hell, I read "The Communist Manifesto" in seventh grade. It was right there on the library shelf.
That and your 'Progressive' glasses put you on the list!
233 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:38:11am |
re: #230 _RememberTonyC
Obama is a $1.99 flip flop ...
iran expands uranium enrichment ...
DOW is down 200 pts ...
Europe is in flames politically and economically ...
terrorists stalk our biggest city ...But hey ... no problem ... the CELTICS have moved on to the conference finals
Life is good
life sucks...
;)
234 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 11:38:26am |
re: #223 iceweasel
They panicked because she wrote a perfectly normal academic thesis as an undergrad on socialist movements in nyc from 1900-1933.
Right seizes on false claim that Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist
As one of the brain trust over at Red State said, "Who learns about socialism as an undergrad anyway?"Yeah, who uses college for learnin'?
One might think anyone studying world politics and/or the economics of last century might have at least come across socialism once or twice in their readings.
Ah, wait. Lemme check. I expected as much. Socialism, not mentioned in the Bible.
235 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:38:46am |
re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist
If someone did that in my classroom, I would lose it. It was bad enough when I had to share with the Charismatic Catholics.
I don't really want to know, but what is a charismatic catholic?
236 | Spider Mensch Fri, May 14, 2010 11:39:01am |
re: #224 ~Fianna
We still have some Euros left over from our trip to Portugal last December. Already worth about ~12% less then the day we brought them home.
On the bright side, it's looking more and more likely that my best friend and her husband will be able to join us on our trip this December, since it's looking like it's going to be a lot less expensive than last year's trip was.
I know..I want to take my wife back to see her family..it's almost a year now since we've visited...but the darn airfares are just way out of line for our budget right now...I can only hope oil can drop more to effect the flight prices..but with the airlines cutting back on the # of flights, I doubt even lower fuel prices will help. but if you can swing the airfare now is the time to go.
237 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:39:32am |
re: #188 kernelPanic
salon.com is live blogging the Harlem trial of Obama. Been a few hours since I checked it but their (poor, poor) guy on the ground has reported that the promised "mass march" never materialized and that so far only ~75 people have shown up instead of the 30,000 they were yelping crazily about.
Wow. I wish I could be there.
238 | _RememberTonyC Fri, May 14, 2010 11:40:13am |
239 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:40:34am |
re: #223 iceweasel
They panicked because she wrote a perfectly normal academic thesis as an undergrad on socialist movements in nyc from 1900-1933.
Right seizes on false claim that Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist
As one of the brain trust over at Red State said, "Who learns about socialism as an undergrad anyway?"Yeah, who uses college for learnin'?
My undergraduate thesis was on Placage in New Orleans 1718-1804.
By that logic, I guess I'm now a Creole.
240 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 11:41:02am |
Song stuck in head, must release
241 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, May 14, 2010 11:41:09am |
re: #229 ~Fianna
Is getting a visa and traveling through Russia really as much of a pain as I've been lead to believe that it is?
Getting a visa took about 6 weeks. We didn't travel through Russia, we just visited Moscow where my son was living at the time.
While I did the usual tourist stuff, visiting the Kremlin museums (awesome!) Zedushka preferred the Pirate Mall. He bought a bunch of software and DVD's which we could have been totally busted for bringing back to the U.S.
242 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 11:41:39am |
re: #238 _RememberTonyC
sorry dude ... dan gilbert live on espn right now
if to ESPN i go, only pain will i find...it was a good series and i'm not mad atcha, but i'm a sad dude...
243 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:41:44am |
re: #234 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
One might think anyone studying world politics and/or the economics of last century might have at least come across socialism once or twice in their readings.
Ah, wait. Lemme check. I expected as much. Socialism, not mentioned in the Bible.
Not by name, but I've read the Sermon on the Mount.
244 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:41:48am |
re: #222 Gus 802
It's still wrong and needs to be changed pronto.
I'm inclined to let those who know the military, i.e., the joint chiefs of staff guide the change.
But, for this case, she owes the money. If her integrity made her come out, that same integrity should be used to make her pay a legal debt.
245 | Digital Display Fri, May 14, 2010 11:41:59am |
246 | _RememberTonyC Fri, May 14, 2010 11:42:54am |
re: #242 Aceofwhat?
if to ESPN i go, only pain will i find...it was a good series and i'm not mad atcha, but i'm a sad dude...
i feel your pain ... i hope you keep LBJ
247 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:43:02am |
re: #196 iceweasel
Won't someone think of the Protestants? The poor, poor Protestants?
I've been told for years whenever someone proposes adding a woman or an African-American or a Latino to somethng for the sake of balance that this is bad, tokenist, undermines merit, and suggests that people can only be represented by those they share a gender or ethnicity with them.
To these people I say now: leave us alone with your identity politics, and your condescending anti-merit attitude. As they continue to advance, individual Protestants will be given every opportunity to compete on an equal playing field with the Papists and the Yids.
248 | _RememberTonyC Fri, May 14, 2010 11:43:13am |
249 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 11:43:25am |
re: #243 ~Fianna
Not by name, but I've read the Sermon on the Mount.
NO INFERENCING! ONLY DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE WORD OF GOD!
/
250 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:43:27am |
re: #244 MandyManners
I'm inclined to let those who know the military, i.e., the joint chiefs of staff guide the change.
But, for this case, she owes the money. If her integrity made her come out, that same integrity should be used to make her pay a legal debt.
I don't agree. I think she should take this to court and sue the United States government, the US Army, the Battalion Command, and her recruiter.
251 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, May 14, 2010 11:43:28am |
re: #241 Alouette
Getting a visa took about 6 weeks. We didn't travel through Russia, we just visited Moscow where my son was living at the time.
While I did the usual tourist stuff, visiting the Kremlin museums (awesome!) Zedushka preferred the Pirate Mall. He bought a bunch of software and DVD's which we could have been totally busted for bringing back to the U.S.
Forgot to add: having a Russian Federation visa in our passports got us lots of extra attention from Homeland Security on other, completely unrelated trips both domestic and abroad.
252 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:44:09am |
re: #244 MandyManners
I'm a little queasy about her common sense. If you're going to make it through four years, what's the reason to unburden yourself now?
253 | McSpiff Fri, May 14, 2010 11:45:09am |
re: #244 MandyManners
Admiral Mullen, Chairmen of the JCS
Mr. Chairman, speaking for myself and myself only, it is my personal belief that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do. No matter how I look at this issue, I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens. For me personally, it comes down to integrity – theirs as individuals and ours as an institution. I also believe that the great young men and women of our military can and would accommodate such a change. I never underestimate their ability to adapt.
Just in case anyone wasn't familiar with the stance of the JCS.
254 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:45:32am |
re: #211 tradewind
Visuals used in protests are often pretty obscure. Thinking about those weird puppets.
Agreed, people often screw this up. I just feel that if I don't 'get' it after looking at it for a few seconds, it doesn't really work. This doesn't really work.
I'm sure it made sense to the person who made it.
255 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:45:33am |
re: #250 Gus 802
I don't agree. I think she should take this to court and sue the United States government, the US Army, the Battalion Command, and her recruiter.
Agreed. I think she didn't even know she was gay when she first signed up, btw.
256 | McSpiff Fri, May 14, 2010 11:45:45am |
re: #253 McSpiff
PIMF: Just in case anyone wasn't familiar with the stance of the CJCS.
257 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:46:42am |
re: #250 Gus 802
I don't agree. I think she should take this to court and sue the United States government, the US Army, the Battalion Command, and her recruiter.
Why? The proposed defendants forced her to sign that contract?
258 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 11:46:48am |
re: #253 McSpiff
Admiral Mullen, Chairmen of the JCS
Just in case anyone wasn't familiar with the stance of the JCS.
Pfff, what does he know.
///
259 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:47:00am |
re: #252 tradewind
I'm a little queasy about her common sense. If you're going to make it through four years, what's the reason to unburden yourself now?
To make a point?
260 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:47:08am |
re: #252 tradewind
I'm a little queasy about her common sense. If you're going to make it through four years, what's the reason to unburden yourself now?
Because living a lie for the next however many years would be more of a burden, and because she believes honesty and telling the truth is a value in the military?
Nah. This must be a plot to make homophobes look bad.
261 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:47:23am |
re: #252 tradewind
I'm a little queasy about her common sense. If you're going to make it through four years, what's the reason to unburden yourself now?
How about "I can't live this bullshit lie anymore"?
Courage, is what it is.
262 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, May 14, 2010 11:47:39am |
re: #243 ~Fianna
Not by name, but I've read the Sermon on the Mount.
Kids, let me tell you about another so-called [makes quotation marks with fingers] ``wicked'' guy. He had long hair and some wild ideas. He didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was...I forget. But the point is...I forget that, too. Marge, you know what I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car?
263 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:47:43am |
re: #227 Rightwingconspirator
Printed laminated signs. Astro-Turf!
//
Probably. ANSWER makes those things by the bazillion for the anti-war rallies and such.
264 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:47:49am |
re: #236 Spider Mensch
I know..I want to take my wife back to see her family..it's almost a year now since we've visited...but the darn airfares are just way out of line for our budget right now...I can only hope oil can drop more to effect the flight prices..but with the airlines cutting back on the # of flights, I doubt even lower fuel prices will help. but if you can swing the airfare now is the time to go.
Where are you headed? Check TAP (Portugal's national airline) sometimes they have insanely low fares from East Coast gateways to major hubs.
Also, try the IATA matrix Log in as guest. It's waaaaaay better than the consumer searches.
265 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:48:21am |
re: #253 McSpiff
Admiral Mullen, Chairmen of the JCS
Just in case anyone wasn't familiar with the stance of the JCS.
I agree with the admiral. But, regulations must be drafted to ease the transition.
266 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 11:48:36am |
re: #259 MandyManners
To make a point?
Haha-- and i honestly thought no one here would be dumb and evil enough to make the argument I mocked in 260-- but you beat me to it in your 259.
Well played, Miss Manners. Well played.
*golfclap*
267 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:48:38am |
re: #259 MandyManners
Mission accomplished.
Commission, demolished.. at least for now.
268 | Spider Mensch Fri, May 14, 2010 11:49:10am |
re: #261 Cato the Elder
How about "I can't live this bullshit lie anymore"?
Courage, is what it is.
"what puts the Ape in the apricot? courage!"
269 | zora Fri, May 14, 2010 11:49:43am |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
following buchanan's logic. the court is also lacking an atheist, a gay person, a muslim, etc.
270 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 11:49:47am |
re: #257 MandyManners
Why? The proposed defendants forced her to sign that contract?
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
271 | Dante41 Fri, May 14, 2010 11:50:42am |
Afternoon, Lizards. Anyone do anything stupid while I was sleeping?
272 | McSpiff Fri, May 14, 2010 11:50:57am |
re: #265 MandyManners
I agree with the admiral. But, regulations must be drafted to ease the transition.
O, fully agreed. I know that you know what you meant, but for anyone not following the debate as closely I figured I'd just throw that in there for background. Was hoping to just clarify your comment, not put words in your mouth.
273 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:51:08am |
re: #241 Alouette
Getting a visa took about 6 weeks. We didn't travel through Russia, we just visited Moscow where my son was living at the time.
While I did the usual tourist stuff, visiting the Kremlin museums (awesome!) Zedushka preferred the Pirate Mall. He bought a bunch of software and DVD's which we could have been totally busted for bringing back to the U.S.
6 weeks isn't so bad. Russia and the Ukraine are very high on our list of places to go. DH's Ukrainian Jew and Polish, so he'd love to see the area. I've been warned that getting a visa for travel can be difficult and they're very, very strict on internal travel still, so you need to have your paperwork and it gets checked a lot on railways and such.
274 | Kragar Fri, May 14, 2010 11:51:15am |
re: #271 Dante41
Afternoon, Lizards. Anyone do anything stupid while I was sleeping?
I bought Kalamata olives instead of the garlic stuffed ones.
275 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:51:28am |
re: #235 iceweasel
I don't really want to know, but what is a charismatic catholic?
It's a sort of renewal movement in the Church, characterized by 'vibrant' folksy masses, and prayer meeting in a kind of evangelical style. Sort of the foot-stomping personal-faith excitement of the small evangelical churches that have been siphoning Latino Catholics away from the Church, combined with traditional Catholicism.
We had a group at the parish connected to the school I used to teach at. They used the classrooms for weekend prayer gatherings and classes. They always left the desks in different places, and left trash behind, so they were not my favorite people.
276 | Spider Mensch Fri, May 14, 2010 11:51:29am |
re: #264 ~Fianna
Where are you headed? Check TAP (Portugal's national airline) sometimes they have insanely low fares from East Coast gateways to major hubs.
Also, try the IATA matrix Log in as guest. It's waaay better than the consumer searches.
we generally try to fly into Frankfurt. but we also can do dusseldorf for closer proximity to my stepson. or Vienna for the inlaws and that group. but I'll check that link thanks.
277 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:51:45am |
re: #271 Dante41
Afternoon, Lizards. Anyone do anything stupid while I was sleeping?
We shot a bunny wabbit.
278 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:52:23am |
279 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:52:23am |
re: #239 ~Fianna
My undergraduate thesis was on Placage in New Orleans 1718-1804.
By that logic, I guess I'm now a Creole.
I'm an affluent, politically active Californio of the 1840s.
280 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, May 14, 2010 11:52:34am |
281 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, May 14, 2010 11:52:43am |
282 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:52:49am |
re: #249 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
NO INFERENCING! ONLY DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE WORD OF GOD!
/
I'll conform to that when the Biblical litteralists stop eating shrimp.
283 | Dante41 Fri, May 14, 2010 11:52:54am |
re: #277 Cato the Elder
We shot a bunny wabbit.
Now, now. That isn't necessarily stupid. It could the rabbit from THAT movie. You know the one.
284 | McSpiff Fri, May 14, 2010 11:53:17am |
re: #275 SanFranciscoZionist
Many traditional Latin rite Catholics aren't a huge fan either.
285 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:53:20am |
re: #267 tradewind
Mission accomplished.
Commission, demolished.. at least for now.
She should've followed the law and kept her mouth shut for a longer time.
286 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:53:54am |
re: #272 McSpiff
O, fully agreed. I know that you know what you meant, but for anyone not following the debate as closely I figured I'd just throw that in there for background. Was hoping to just clarify your comment, not put words in your mouth.
Sweetie pie!
287 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, May 14, 2010 11:54:07am |
re: #265 MandyManners
I agree with the admiral. But, regulations must be drafted to ease the transition.
Rumor in the 5 sided wind tunnel is that the Congress was considering linking a repeal of DADT to this years military budget. Sec Gates requested Congress hold off so the military can complete a study on the impact of repealing DADT.
FYI
288 | McSpiff Fri, May 14, 2010 11:54:45am |
289 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:54:53am |
re: #287 rwdflynavy
Rumor in the 5 sided wind tunnel is that the Congress was considering linking a repeal of DADT to this years military budget. Sec Gates requested Congress hold off so the military can complete a study on the impact of repealing DADT.
FYI
Fucking nuts. Just fucking nuts.
290 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:54:56am |
re: #269 zora
following buchanan's logic. the court is also lacking an atheist, a gay person, a muslim, etc.
If we can find a gay Muslim atheist with sufficient legal experience...
291 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 11:55:12am |
re: #261 Cato the Elder
Hey, I'm on her side. The law should be changed.
I am just thinking that for her own sake, the timing was unfortunate since she was almost done with the process.
292 | MandyManners Fri, May 14, 2010 11:55:19am |
re: #287 rwdflynavy
Rumor in the 5 sided wind tunnel is that the Congress was considering linking a repeal of DADT to this years military budget. Sec Gates requested Congress hold off so the military can complete a study on the impact of repealing DADT.
FYI
Threatening the well-being of our military over a political issue?!
293 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:55:23am |
re: #251 Alouette
Forgot to add: having a Russian Federation visa in our passports got us lots of extra attention from Homeland Security on other, completely unrelated trips both domestic and abroad.
Makes sense, actually. LOOOOOOOOTS of crime happening in the RF.
That'd be just great for me. I tend to travel with my laptop and I'm always worried that I missed something when cleaning work stuff off.
(I'm a network admin and our security specialist. What's on my laptop is stuff that isn't illegal to have if you're using it legally, but would keep me there for a while if they did a scan on my machine.)
295 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, May 14, 2010 11:55:45am |
re: #271 Dante41
Afternoon, Lizards. Anyone do anything stupid while I was sleeping?
... he asks, as though the Internet shuts down while he's asleep/
296 | Dante41 Fri, May 14, 2010 11:56:17am |
re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist
If we can find a gay Muslim atheist with sufficient legal experience...
Well, what else is Obama gonna do once his term is up?
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298 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 14, 2010 11:56:31am |
re: #284 McSpiff
Many traditional Latin rite Catholics aren't a huge fan either.
I muttered to a coworker at one point, "Isn't the whole point of being Catholic that you aren't charismatic?"
She agreed.
299 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 11:57:10am |
re: #56 Nimed
Cato, I have answered your comments about atheism in the other thread. I would ask you to read it before repeating your claims that all atheists reclaim some sort of intellectual superiority over believers.
Color me stupid, but even the most finely reasoned atheism is still a belief system. I can't see how it could be considered superior in any way to any other belief system.
301 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:57:45am |
re: #269 zora
following buchanan's logic. the court is also lacking an atheist, a gay person, a muslim, etc.
Well, to hear the right scream about it, we're on the brink of checking off teh ghey.
302 | Cato the Elder Fri, May 14, 2010 11:57:52am |
re: #284 McSpiff
Many traditional Latin rite Catholics aren't a huge fan either.
One thing I love about my Church is I can go to the service that fits my mood.
My local parish is very mainstream and Vatican II, but there is at least one big old church that does it in Latin. I've never been much for guitar masses, but if I'm feeling all nostalgic for Eastern Europe I can go to the Ukrainian Catholic Church on Eastern Avenue and hear the Orthodox-style mass while still being in a Catholic Church.
303 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 11:58:34am |
re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm an affluent, politically active Californio of the 1840s.
You got the better end of that deal. :)
304 | Varek Raith Fri, May 14, 2010 12:00:45pm |
305 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 12:00:59pm |
re: #287 rwdflynavy
Rumor in the 5 sided wind tunnel is that the Congress was considering linking a repeal of DADT to this years military budget. Sec Gates requested Congress hold off so the military can complete a study on the impact of repealing DADT.
FYI
re: #292 MandyManners
Threatening the well-being of our military over a political issue?!
Uh. There was not threat made. It was simply a repeal of DADT which was included in the defense appropriations bill. This was done by Carl Levin:
Carl Levin To Include 'Don't Ask' Repeal, Defy Pentagon Request
By Carlos Santoscoy
Published: May 12, 2010
Michigan Senator Carl Levin said Tuesday he'll include “Don't Ask, Don't Tell” repeal in this year's Defense Authorization bill, and defy a Pentagon request to wait.
The Senate Armed Services Committee chairman said he's prepared to include repeal language of the policy that bans gay troops from serving openly in the defense budget if he can get the votes for it. Both sides of Congress are expected to act on next year's budget this month.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen wrote to the House Armed Services Committee and urged its chairman, Missouri Representative Ike Skelton, to hold off on repeal until their study is complete.
306 | zora Fri, May 14, 2010 12:01:27pm |
re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist
my point was that i don't think buchanan would extend his logic to these americans. i personally would like to see an admitted atheist on the court. i believe there is a growing support among evangelical christians and some other protestants that this country be a theocracy and the bible be the rule of law.
307 | tradewind Fri, May 14, 2010 12:02:47pm |
re: #301 ~Fianna
That ship sailed years ago**, with little notice, which was just fine.
Please don't ask for a link. Just the conventional rumor mill at work.
And no one cared.
308 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 12:03:51pm |
re: #305 Gus 802
right - it was a congressional act in the first place, right? so AFAIK, it can be congressionally wiped away just as simply...
309 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 12:04:47pm |
re: #308 Aceofwhat?
right - it was a congressional act in the first place, right? so AFAIK, it can be congressionally wiped away just as simply...
Yep. Up or down vote. Or removed in committee, etc.
310 | Ericus58 Fri, May 14, 2010 12:05:09pm |
re: #213 iceweasel
Truthfully, I'd like to see loads of college kids on ROTC come out as gay. It'd force the military to change sooner, possibly. That change is gonna come anyway...
I'm sorry to tell you, but my son won't be one of them.
I think his wonderful GF would take exception ;)
311 | Slap Fri, May 14, 2010 12:05:55pm |
312 | ~Fianna Fri, May 14, 2010 12:06:23pm |
re: #307 tradewind
That ship sailed years ago**, with little notice, which was just fine.
Please don't ask for a link. Just the conventional rumor mill at work.
And no one cared.
I'm sure that ship sailed decades ago. Gay people aren't a new invention.
Frankly, the only reason that anyone cares now is because Victorianism liked to create labels and it just won't die.
313 | goddamnedfrank Fri, May 14, 2010 12:06:24pm |
re: #292 MandyManners
Threatening the well-being of our military over a political issue?!
That's what the DADT policy current does. How many arabic linguists and other critical specialists do we have to lose before you stop measuring the spectrum of institutional "well being" on the precious feelings of a few bigots incapable of adapting to modern society?
314 | Varek Raith Fri, May 14, 2010 12:07:09pm |
If gays can serve openly in the Israeli army, they sure as hell can in ours.
315 | webevintage Fri, May 14, 2010 12:15:02pm |
re: #223 iceweasel
They panicked because she wrote a perfectly normal academic thesis as an undergrad on socialist movements in nyc from 1900-1933.
Right seizes on false claim that Kagan's thesis shows she's a socialist
As one of the brain trust over at Red State said, "Who learns about socialism as an undergrad anyway?"
Well the brain trust at Red State is also upset because:
Beyond the political atmosphere, Ms. Kagan is credited with improving student life through upgrades to the physical campus, such as a revamped student center, an upgraded gym and an ice-skating rink that doubled as a volleyball court. And she offered small things, like free coffee outside classrooms and free tampons in the women's restrooms.
"Harvard was not a warm and fuzzy place. It was a tough experience for many, and in a variety of ways large and small she focused energy on the question how can we improve the student experience," Mr. Mnookin said.
Because, ya know, there is really nothing as a free tampon...someone is paying for it.
316 | shiplord kirel Fri, May 14, 2010 12:16:10pm |
re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist
If someone did that in my classroom, I would lose it. It was bad enough when I had to share with the Charismatic Catholics.
This seems to be a trend. A while back I had occasion to invite an old class-mate into my study. I hadn't seen him in years and he turned out to have converted to tea-partyism in the meantime. He made a point of asking me why I had two copies of the Communist Manifesto on the shelves. I responded jokingly that they were model targets for my model Huey gunship and various other scale warplanes around the room. Then he noticed that my P-39 Airacobra model had Soviet markings (more than half of the P-39s produced were given to the Soviets under lend-lease) and that I had other models of Soviet aircraft. He pointedly asked why I had such an interest and said it could almost seem like "honoring communism." It took me a minute to realize he wasn't joking in this weird and frankly moronic attempt at an inquisition, in my study, in my home, where I had invited him as a gesture to the good old days. I confessed to being a Bolshevik and showed him the door. It was really kind of creepy.
317 | garhighway Fri, May 14, 2010 12:16:41pm |
re: #209 Aceofwhat?
You have to shut down half of your brain, first. Then the "he's a commie flip-flop" is hurrr hurrr hurrr funny;)
Only half?
318 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 12:16:54pm |
re: #300 Gus 802
Rolls eyes.
If you're rolling them in my direction, you can rotate them until they fall out of your head.
In the meantime, allow me to put you on GAZE.
319 | Macha Fri, May 14, 2010 12:19:08pm |
re: #261 Cato the Elder
How about "I can't live this bullshit lie anymore"?
Courage, is what it is.
I concur. DADT has forced far too many individuals in the military to lie to simply maintain their jobs. Speak of a slam against ethics. I applaud this young woman for staying true to her ethics and for having the courage to make what must have been a tremendously difficult decision.
320 | Aceofwhat? Fri, May 14, 2010 12:21:36pm |
re: #317 garhighway
Only half?
heh. good point - if i were smarter, i'd need to shut down 90% of it;)
321 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 12:25:59pm |
re: #316 shiplord kirel
Gosh, that's really awful. Sorry to hear that.
322 | Fozzie Bear Fri, May 14, 2010 12:28:41pm |
re: #215 MandyManners
But, it was the law at the time she signed the contract. No one forced her to sign it.
If that isn't unconstitutional, I don't know what is.
323 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 12:31:34pm |
Only one downding, Ice?
Where's Jimmah? Sleeping it off, or what?
325 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 12:34:32pm |
re: #323 ryannon
Only one downding, Ice?
Where's Jimmah? Sleeping it off, or what?
Spoiling for a fight today, aren't you?
Now hush Clarice. People will say we are in love.
326 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 12:40:14pm |
re: #325 iceweasel
Spoiling for a fight today, aren't you?
Now hush Clarice. People will say we are in love.
Why don't we talk this out over dinner?
If not, simply try and understand that I find your Zeus-like down-dings with their very personal tenor extremely wearying.
Other than that, you're just fine in my book.
But I've learned never to let what I consider to be an affront go unanswered. It's a kind of prison logic - if you're not careful, you end up being someone's bitch. And being on the bottom has never been my style.
327 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 12:49:43pm |
Gentleman that I am, I hope you will accept this peace-offering, two marvelous minutes of sublime cinema and music under the sign of the genial Hannibal. Save your pinkies for down-dinging where it counts, and soon we'll all be leading happier, more productive lives....
328 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 12:51:22pm |
re: #318 ryannon
If you're rolling them in my direction, you can rotate them until they fall out of your head.
In the meantime, allow me to put you on GAZE.
Geez Ryannon. No, I wasn't. Your post came right before I posted that but it was in regard to the context within what I was engaged with. It's not the sequence, it's the dialogue.
Otherwise I've actually been trying to avoid the gross generalizations about atheism for the past couple of days.
329 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 12:54:07pm |
re: #328 Gus 802
Geez Ryannon. No, I wasn't. Your post came right before I posted that but it was in regard to the context within what I was engaged with. It's not the sequence, it's the dialogue.
Otherwise I've actually been trying to avoid the gross generalizations about atheism for the past couple of days.
Thank you for clearing that up, Gus, and my sincere excuses for the spate of negativity.
330 | im_gumby_damnit Fri, May 14, 2010 12:55:19pm |
Forgive me, but like many things Tea Party, I don't get it.
331 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 12:55:55pm |
re: #329 ryannon
Thank you for clearing that up, Gus, and my sincere excuses for the spate of negativity.
Cool beans.
Maybe I should specify my eye rolling in the future to prevent any confusion. ;)
332 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 12:56:52pm |
re: #331 Gus 802
Cool beans.
Maybe I should specify my eye rolling in the future to prevent any confusion. ;)
I wouldn't worry about it. I've been on a hair-trigger lately.
333 | Gus Fri, May 14, 2010 12:58:15pm |
re: #332 ryannon
I wouldn't worry about it. I've been on a hair-trigger lately.
Have you? Everything going alright in Paris?
334 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 1:17:45pm |
re: #330 im_gumby_damnit
Forgive me, but like many things Tea Party, I don't get it.
One teaspoon for each person, and 'one for the pot'. Scones and cream as well, if it's High Teare: #333 Gus 802
Have you? Everything going alright in Paris?
Everything is going really well, actually. Except for the weather, which is putting everyone on edge: cold, grey and rainy.
And nice of you to ask - it's so much better when people can be friendly around here... :-)
335 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 1:19:05pm |
Sigh. Another botched post. Let's try again:
#333 Gus 802
Have you? Everything going alright in Paris?
Everything is going really well, actually. Except for the weather, which is putting everyone on edge: cold, grey and rainy.
And nice of you to ask - it's so much better when people can be friendly around here... :-)
336 | Bagua Fri, May 14, 2010 1:32:42pm |
re: #184 Walter L. Newton
It's evident that the crazy mom was keeping the "smoke thing" in check, just like Jacob, just like Ben, but I suspect that she also could summon it if the need warranted. She didn't destroy that village and fill in that well alone.
And when she was killed (by the same knife that Dogan had and Sayid had to kill Locke), she said "thank you."
I had the impression that when the man in black was thrown in, he transformed into Smokey, but then that does not explain how Jacob's adoptive mother was able to kill all the settlers and fill in the well.
I saw my earlier hunch confirmed though, that Smokey is not pure evil, my sympathies were with Jacob's brother, not Jacob who chose to side with that murderous "mother". I'm still rooting for Smokey to win the day.
Also interesting that Jacob's brother could see the dead whereas Jacob could not. So Hurley and the other dead whisperers have something in common with MIB. Is that why his "mother" said he was special?
Inquiring mind need to know!
337 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 2:16:14pm |
re: #335 ryannon
it's so much better when people can be friendly around here... :-)
As opposed to when you post something like this:
re: #323 ryannon
Only one downding, Ice?
Where's Jimmah? Sleeping it off, or what?
Try to avoid being proven a hypocrite within three posts. I'd prefer the challenge. ;)
338 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 2:23:05pm |
re: #337 iceweasel
Try to avoid being proven a hypocrite within three posts. I'd prefer the challenge. ;)
I was responding to your down-ding out of nowhere, and basically for nothing. What exactly was your stake, interest or other in the original exchange? Why the knee-jerk down-dings? Was there a political, philosophical or personal issue involved?
Yes, I like a friendly atmosphere around here. But when I consider that someone is systematically stepping on my toes, I push back.
Where's the hypocracy in that?
And what the fuck are you trying to prove, again, again, and again?
That I'm a hypocrite? Really, don't you really have better things to do with your time? Can't you give it a rest, already?
341 | The Left Fri, May 14, 2010 4:30:14pm |
re: #338 ryannon
I was responding to your down-ding out of nowhere
Yes, my 'zeus-like' downdings-- which apparently are more powerful than other downdings.
That downding was for misreading Gus's comment and trying to pick a fight. You remember, the comment you have apologised for making?
Your response to my terrible sin-- using the downding function-- was a totally nasty comment about Jimmah.
And here you are-- still trying to pick a fight. Looks like I was right.
You'll have to play with yourself; not interested in assisting you.
342 | ryannon Fri, May 14, 2010 4:44:01pm |
re: #341 iceweasel
Yes, my 'zeus-like' downdings-- which apparently are more powerful than other downdings.
That downding was for misreading Gus's comment and trying to pick a fight. You remember, the comment you have apologised for making?
Your response to my terrible sin-- using the downding function-- was a totally nasty comment about Jimmah.
And here you are-- still trying to pick a fight. Looks like I was right.
You'll have to play with yourself; not interested in assisting you.
Blimey, but you're really starting to lose it, Ice.
Not at all good to see.
344 | Aye Pod Sat, May 15, 2010 4:32:33pm |
re: #342 ryannon
Blimey, but you're really starting to lose it, Ice.
Not at all good to see.
Losing it? That would be the one who launched the insane screechfest above over a downding (for a comment you even admitted was wrong later). I.e you.
For further illustration purposes regarding the proper definition of 'losing it', let's have a look at your last shrieking meltdown:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I'd love it if you kept your runny Scottish nose out of this. And as for the gratuitous dig, here's a gratuitous go fuck yourself.
If you have the balls, why not clearly state why or what I wouldn't 'pick up on' concerning Mandy. Do you think I lack the intelligence, finesse or intellectual honesty to do so? Pray, tell the forum what you think and on what basis you justify your insinuations concerning what I'm capable or not of picking up on.
I was predisposed to accord you a minimum amount of courtesy, but having picked up on fact that you're more than ready to be a snarky little twit when it suits you, I'm taking off the gloves and addressing you like the pretentious wanker that you've just proved yourself to be.
Hilarious!