Girl From the North Country

Gotta get to bed. Good night, all.

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Me too. Goodnight everyone.

Two more great blues guitarists

Clapton and Knopfler

Jimmy Dean - Big Bad John

--in remembrance; RIP

cool, just in time for the start of the overnight thread -- no need to catch up on the day's goings on, I'll just hang here for a .bit

re: #1 Bagua

Girl From the North Country

[Video]
- Dylan/Cash

That was decent.

rollin...rollin..rollin...

Classic blue by Buddy Guy

re: #7 Boogberg

That's a h/t from Cato, the Dylan Nash sessions Nashville Skyline.

He did a post about it well worth reading.

Still Drunk, Still Crazy, and Still Blue

Gonna try sleep again but I'll leave you with another classic blues(I'd classify it as blues) tune by Robin Trower

re: #4 OldnGrumpy

You gotta love Eric. He's got that smokin' organ going on too.

Pursuant to my music recommendation on the last thread, here are "Two Gallants" (the band named after a James Joyce story) performing "Steady Rollin'":

They have summed up the satiric spirit with which I am imbued with the immortal words - "if you got a throat, I've got a knife".

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

Fell in love with this. I was in a carribean housing project. This was turned up a bit, and was echoing off the concrete buildings. This is not like hearing it on the radio.
1982

and to break up the mood

Distant relative

Reposted from okie thread..

I just got my copy of Reality Bites 2. Very impressed with the span of cuisine. Cheers to the contributors.

Simple question... heheh

where should I start? the Native American fry bread caught my interest right off the bat...

update... one of my friends is Navajo Apache and he said Navajo #1 and Old fashioned is what his grandma made for him...

kudos lizards

I'm listening to all these songs. There's truckloads of good stuff here. :)

and now for something completely different....

re: #15 swamprat

Please see my dog post in response to yours on the last thread.

re: #19 Cato the Elder

i go, sir

re: #14 Cato the Elder

Excellent.

Macdill Air Force Base, Florida (CNN) -- All gates at MacDill Air Force Face in Florida will be open Tuesday after being temporarily closed after a heavily armed man and woman taken into custody after trying to entire the facility without authorization, an Air Force Spokeswoman said.

The pair were stopped at a gate at the base that house the headquarters for U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan early Monday evening after they could not show proper identification, Senior Airman Katherine Holt said. A search of the vehicle after they were detained found military-style uniforms and gear and several "rifle-type" weapons, Holt said.

re: #9 OldnGrumpy

Classic blue by Buddy Guy

It took a Russian grrrfriend to introduce me to Buddy.

She's long gone, but Buddy's still here.

re: #15 swamprat

That's a twelve string too.

so i am going to ask again.... of the awake lizards, what recipe in the cook book #2 is your favs?

Drummer vs. Female Flamenco Dancer vs. Male Flamenco Dancer

re: #18 swamprat

and now for something completely different...

[Video]

That's not different. That's a masterpiece.

How about tea baggers errrr drinkers vs bug bunny?

Serves Me Right To Suffer

Kleenex consumption up tonight.
Must be allergies.
thanks Cato

But work I must.

Good night lizards.

I'm a happy idiot who struggles for the legal tender.

re: #23 Cato the Elder

It took a Russian grrrfriend to introduce me to Buddy.

She's long gone, but Buddy's still here.

[Video]

Man that was pretty awesome. The production was spotless.

Irony department. Or perhaps Allah's rage at oklahoma rejecting Sharia:

[Link: www.salon.com...]

re: #12 OldnGrumpy

Gonna try sleep again but I'll leave you with another classic blues(I'd classify it as blues) tune by Robin Trower

[Video]

Great song from a great album. Back in college, I used "Day of the Eagle" as my preprogrammed wake-up song. If the beginning of that song didn't wake you up, you were dead.

Unlike most guitarists, Trower always gives the impression that he knows where he's going, even on the longest solos.

re: #32 ralphieboy

Irony department. Or perhaps Allah's rage at oklahoma rejecting Sharia:

[Link: www.salon.com...]

That's about 20 miles north of me, right alongside I-75 at Exit 29 (also known for two major indoor flea markets). I call him "Punt Return Jesus" for the way his arms were uplifted in a way that would guarantee any punt would be muffed. I didn't know it could burn, since it's made of fiberglass.

It's also about 8 miles from John Boehner's house, not that that fact has anything to do with it. Maybe Allah was aiming at Boehner's place and missed?

It was a bitch of a storm, for sure. I was driving along the edge of the storm around 6:45 EDT and the joint was rockin'.

re: #33 ClaudeMonet

Great song from a great album. Back in college, I used "Day of the Eagle" as my preprogrammed wake-up song. If the beginning of that song didn't wake you up, you were dead.

Unlike most guitarists, Trower always gives the impression that he knows where he's going, even on the longest solos.

A million years ago I bought an album with Robin Trower and Jack Bruce. I thought it rocked but the critics were less than friendly.

re: #26 CuriousLurker

Drummer vs. Female Flamenco Dancer vs. Male Flamenco Dancer

I'll see you that and raise you this.

Manitas de Plata, uncle and grandfather of half the Gypsy Kings (hint: the family name is Reyes):

Note how he plays the guitar for a full minute with just his left hand!

Guitar conquers world.

In Sufi terms: breath - breathe.

In Indo-European: atman = atmen. (From Sanskrit to German in one breath.)

Adam Kadmon.

re: #30 swampratw

wrong vid

Correct song about having to go to work.

I'm just going to leave this right here.

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Love three "after"s in the opening sentence. Can anyone at CNN write or edit?

More Manitas.

Flamenco on request from a pretty French grrrl!

Damn, Cato. That kicked ass. Not just ordinary ass either. I'm talking major ass. :)

re: #39 rieux

Love three "after"s in the opening sentence. Can anyone at CNN write or edit?

I noticed that. CNN's proofreading has really gone downhill in the last few months. Their most common mistake is letting properly spelled words that are misplaced slip through, like allowing "too" in place of "to" or, in at least one case I saw, "two".

Corporate hiring practices of late have shifted to dumping older, more experienced (and higher paid) employees and replacing them with newly-graduated, much cheaper labor. You get what you pay for.

re: #36 Cato the Elder

Bravo! That was fabulous.

And in honor of the Sufis & lovers everywhere:

All Adam's race are members of one frame;
Since all, at first, from the same essence came.
When by hard fortune one limb is oppressed,
The other members lose their wonted rest:
If thou feel'st not for other's misery,
A son of Adam is no name for thee.
—Sa'adi of Shiraz

We have this way of talking, and we have another.
Apart from what we wish and what we fear may happen,
we are alive with other life, as clear stones
take form in the mountain.
—Jelaluddin Rumi

This, Lizards, this is my religion. This is also Islam.

re: #40 Cato the Elder

More Manitas.

Flamenco on request from a pretty French grrrl!

[Video]

He is sooooooo flirting with her! But in a nice way. :)

What an amazing guitarist. I adore the guitar & violin.

By the way, if anybody here wants to learn more about European "gypsies" and their fate, I have two recommendations.

One, a book.

I met the author once on a train between Baltimore and Boston. She noticed what I was reading and struck up a long conversation with me.

Two, a movie.

Now a rarity. Out of print. Available only through third-party sellers.

Tells the musical odyssey of the "gypsies" from India to Spain.

Memorable lines:

Some days
And some other days
I find myself wishing
For the respect
You show
Your dog.

Do not get me started. When I lived in Germany, the "gypsies" would come around every spring and sell their wicker products on the edge of town. Never in my life have I heard such obtuse racist vituperations against people as I heard against them.

The "gypsies" are still very much a part of every European country, and are harassed and harried wherever they go. And also here, in this great land of ours, which has no room for freeborn nomads.

Don't get me started.

Irish "gypsy" song (in Ireland and England they call themselves "the travelling people"):

For that life I'd trade everything I own.

re: #45 Cato the Elder

By the way, if anybody here wants to learn more about European "gypsies" and their fate, I have two recommendations....

I love this kind of stuff. Thank you.

((((Cato))))

P.S. I hope Haku feels better soon.

Ugh, it's 4am here. Time to try to get some sleep.

Goodnight to whoever's still out there.

~~~~GONE~~~~

re: #47 CuriousLurker

OK, I know you're not here, but:

As a Catholic, my spiritual life is based on bread and wine.

As Omar Khayyam sang:

A loaf of bread
A jug of wine
And thou
Singing beside me in the wilderness.
Ah! Wilderness were paradise enow!

Which brings me to singing.

Song!

Sing unto the Lord a new one.

Cantate domino novum cantatum!

Or an old one:

re: #45 Cato the Elder

Dude. "Travelers" Are Carnies. They're tent evangelists. They're the lowest form of scum on the earth because they steal from the most vulnerable.

re: #49 Boogberg

Dude. "Travelers" Are Carnies. They're tent evangelists. They're the lowest form of scum on the earth because they steal from the most vulnerable.

You know not whereof you speak.

re: #43 CuriousLurker

All Adam's race are members of one frame;
Since all, at first, from the same essence came.
When by hard fortune one limb is oppressed,
The other members lose their wonted rest:
If thou feel'st not for other's misery,
A son of Adam is no name for thee.
—Sa'adi of Shiraz

We have this way of talking, and we have another.
Apart from what we wish and what we fear may happen,
we are alive with other life, as clear stones
take form in the mountain.
—Jelaluddin Rumi

This, Lizards, this is my religion. This is also Islam.

Music and dance are god-like and beauty a celebration of the divine:

"Hizbullah has laid claim to a huge oil and gas field that Israel discovered off its northeastern Mediterranean Coast -- and which Lebanon already has claimed as well.

The terrorist organization warned that it will not allow Israel to take possession of the offshore fields, which could make the Jewish State energy self-sufficient for the first time in history."

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

I couldn't resist coming back for one last peek.

re: #48 Cato the Elder

As a Catholic, my spiritual life is based on bread and wine.

As Omar Khayyam sang:

A loaf of bread
A jug of wine
And thou
Singing beside me in the wilderness.
Ah! Wilderness were paradise enow!

Image: dulac_rub_loaf_ap.jpg

Sing unto the Lord a new one.

Cantate domino novum cantatum!

Or an old one:

[Video]

Beautiful. :)

Next time you're on Netflix look up a movie called "Born of Fire".

So...who's gonna see Brazil vs. The Communists later?

re: #54 laZardo

Me, for one. Rooting intensly for NK in the first half, then switch sides during half time. Call me Italy.

Sephardic Jewish Arabic Moroccan Gitano Flamenco song & dance Al-Andalus

The whole ball of wax.

re: #51 ryannon

Music and dance are god-like and beauty a celebration of the divine:

[Video]

Indeed. Here's one for you:

Now I really am going to go to sleep. Besides, heads will explode like never before if it appears that LGF has suddenly been taken over by Sufis. ;o)

re: #57 CuriousLurker

Indeed. Here's one for you:

[Video]

Now I really am going to go to sleep. Besides, heads will explode like never before if it appears that LGF has suddenly been taken over by Sufis. ;o)

Always been here.

Heh.

re: #53 CuriousLurker

Image: dulac_rub_loaf_ap.jpg

Darn, they have hotlinking set to a default image.

[Link: www.google.com...]

re: #58 ryannon

Always been here.

Heh

Heh--I should know that by now. (((ryannon)))

And now back to the regularly scheduled programming...

*tiptoes out & closes door*

Thunderstorm overhead, good time to chill...

It's morning somewhere...

I hate not being able to sleep. Crap. But in 2 hours I'll need a nap.

My wife's cat brought in a baby bird, a mere hatch ling as it were, tormenting it and eventually disemboweling it. My wife stood by helplessly and watched the horror unfold, being too stunned to do anything about it (although there was nothing she could have done, the bird being doomed since the feline came into possession of it) until she separated the two by putting a Halloween bucket over the hapless Avis sparing it further grief; allowing it to die without further painful wounds.
There is no point to this post other that pointing out that as H.P Lovecraft wrote, "Life is a horrible thing."

I feel better now.
RIP, baby bird

re: #65 EdDantes

My wife's cat brought in a baby bird, a mere hatch ling as it were, tormenting it and eventually disemboweling it. My wife stood by helplessly and watched the horror unfold, being too stunned to do anything about it (although there was nothing she could have done, the bird being doomed since the feline came into possession of it) until she separated the two by putting a Halloween bucket over the hapless Avis sparing it further grief; allowing it to die without further painful wounds.
There is no point to this post other that pointing out that as H.P Lovecraft wrote, "Life is a horrible thing."

I feel better now.
RIP, baby bird

My cats used to do that all the time.The humane thing would've been to just break its little neck, but a lot of people have an aversion to that form of humanity.

re: #65 EdDantes

It happens. A Perfect Circle.

re: #66 ralphieboy

The humane thing would've been to just break its little neck, but a lot of people have an aversion to that form of humanity.

When I was 14 one of our cats had mangled a baby rabbit. My dad took the rabbit out of the cats jaws and put the rabbit out of its misery. I never asked him how but I knew it was difficult for him.

Real men don't play with dolls. The incomparable Sigur Ros sing about it:

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm listening for the second time and reading the lyrics.

re: #70 EdDantes

Maynard (sp?) is a step above...

Bummed out by the senseless death of a small bird, I'm reminded of my favorite Herman's Hermits song. If you haven't heard it please watch and listen. Lyrics are included in the vid.

re: #71 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maynard G. Krebs?

re: #73 EdDantes

Maynard G. Krebs?

Don't get me started!!!

What's up chickens?

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

Apparently his parents were fans of the Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.

re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What's up chickens?

Bawk.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

And the batter takes his base...

re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What's up chickens?

That is insensitive.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bawk.

You too.

Well this works. I get tired and everything starts to work.

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And the batter takes his base...

Unless you're Jim Joyce in which case it's a home run.

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw the last hour of a "Tool" concert in Richmond, VA. Was there to pick up my budding metal-head and his buddies to drive them back to Roanoke. Security guys said, "Oh, go on in. If you can stand it."

Flippin' awesome it was for it's genre. I'm not into stuff that heavy, but the production was incredible.

re: #82 EdDantes

I'm going to chuckle at that and pretend that I "got it".

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

TOOL might be one of the greatest band of all time. Not kidding.

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm going to chuckle at that and pretend that I "got it".

Perfect game plan.

re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar

Drummer was what blew me away. The sheer volume of notes that he put out, (with nuances) and he made it look really easy.

I couldn't stop watching him.

Like I said, was very good.

Same saw the end is near...

re: #86 EdDantes

Perfect game plan.

Uh... I've been trying to figure out what James Joyce may have written about a balk in baseball.

So, I'm thinking, "The Dead"? Nah. "Finnegan's Wake"? Nope.

Then I google it. I knew about this... just didn't click.

Duh.

re: #82 EdDantes

Unless you're Jim Joyce in which case it's a home run.

Hey, Ed? You seen this?

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought you might have been think James Joyce.

re: #91 EdDantes

I can read Joyce passages... but can't get by the highlight reels. The rest is way above my comprehension level.

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, Ed? You seen this?

Saw it yesterday. Probably well deserved. " Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. " We ALL fuck up at least once: this man admitted it!

re: #93 EdDantes

His admittance just got him a legion of fans. People don't readily admit mistakes and take the heat as he did.

I admire him.

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can read Joyce passages... but can't get by the highlight reels. The rest is way above my comprehension level.

You did read all of Ulysses, did you not?

re: #95 EdDantes

If, by all of it, you mean "none" of it?

Yes.

Oh, hell. Work.

Bye.

re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If, by all of it, you mean "none" of it?

Yes.

Ah, you are a very perspicacious young fellow Mr. Fat Bastard. Now, GET IN MY BELLY!

re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bye, FBV

Good night all, I must repair to the Island of Monte Cristo.

re: #100 EdDantes

Good night all, I must repair to the Island of Monte Cristo.

Count on it...

Ha ha. The morning breakfast news team just fell apart. They were doing teasers for upcoming stories. There was one story about Viagra and men feeling uncomfortable about talking about dysfunction and then the next one was about a couple that's been married for 80 years and asking about the secrets of such a long term marriage.

Started hearing the laughter of the other anchor and during the second teaser and then when it finished she was laughing so hard their were tears and she couldn't talk. Other anchor was shaking his head trying not to laugh, saying I don't right this stuff. Both of them tried to keep going but they ended up having to pass off to the news person who was trying not to laugh as well.

Morning Lizardim. Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything splendiferously grandiose?

Hey!

Wake the f*** up!

You gotta turn this up stupid loud

Muahahahaha

re: #103 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything splendiferously grandiose?

My wife's cat disemboweled a baby bird. bitch.

re: #103 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything splendiferously grandiose?

I don't know. Just got here myself.

re: #103 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything splendiferously grandiose?

I had an amazing job opportunity fall into my lap yesterday. I'm still pinching myself to make sure it wasn't a dream.

re: #107 Jadespring

I had an amazing job opportunity fall into my lap yesterday. I'm still pinching myself to make sure it wasn't a dream.

Wonderful! That's amazing news!

re: #107 Jadespring

What kind of job?

re: #108 thedopefishlives

Wonderful! That's amazing news!

It really is. It's not a sure thing but potentially could be awesome. Last month I went to one of the monthly talks put on by a local community group. It was on a species at risk program in the area. The group does a lot of different things. Afterwords during coffee time I found out that one of their commitees is working on a couple of projects related to growing food. They'd been given a piece of land to use by a local person and were doing a soil rehabilitation project. I have an interest in that area so joined the group.

I went to a meeting yesterday to find out more about whats going and see where I might be able to put in some community volunteer time. Ends up they're really at the very beginning of the whole thing and not exactly sure what they're going to end up doing with this piece of land. They have lots of ideas, community garden, demonstration teaching gardens, growing plot for produce for lower income people etc etc. So I contributed a whole bunch of ideas and info etc etc. Then one of the guys says, 'Well you know one of the things we've been thinking seriously about is getting a couple of grants to actually pay for someone to facilitate this project. We've already talked to the granting people. You sound exactly like the sort of person we'd be looking for. Would you be interested an able to take on something like this?"

So long story short not only would I potentially get paid I get to basically create the project and the job. It's really a blank slate right now. The awesome thing about it is it's the type of work that I was prepared to volunteer to do. It would be getting paid to do something that I love and would do anyway. I don't think it gets much better then that. :D

Kyrgyzstan violence: Uzbekistan closes border to refugees

Uzbekistan has closed its border to refugees fleeing the deadly violence in Kyrgyzstan, some of whom have accused government forces of helping armed gangs slaughter ethnic Uzbeks.
[snip]

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay has urged Kyrgyz authorities to act firmly.

"It seems indiscriminate killings, including of children, and rapes have been taking place on the basis of ethnicity."

The violence appeared to have been "orchestrated, targeted and well-planned," she added.

Russia Weighs Pleas to Step In as Uzbeks Flee Kyrgyzstan
Excerpt:

American authorities were working to rush humanitarian aid to the region and coordinate any security response with Russia and other international players. While the United States is not currently planning to send peacekeeping troops, the Obama administration wants to make sure any foreign forces that go do so under the auspices of the United Nations.

Russia prepares to move in to stop Kyrgyzstan violence spreading

re: #111 abolitionist

Kyrgyzstan violence: Uzbekistan closes border to refugees

Russia prepares to move in to stop Kyrgyzstan violence spreading

Yunno, I hate to admit it, but the Birchers done warned us this was the plan all along: let the former Soviet republics go to hell in a handbasket until they call on Russia to intervene and re-establish the old empire under a new Czar.

Good morning lizards!

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

I was just gonna post that -- attempted attack, or something less sinister?

re: #111 abolitionist

Kyrgyzstan violence: Uzbekistan closes border to refugees

Russia prepares to move in to stop Kyrgyzstan violence spreading

Where is the international outrage? Where are the emergency UNSC meetings? Where are the demands for an investigation? Human Rights Organizations calling up every media organization in sight? Protests in the street?

/

re: #112 ralphieboy

Yunno, I hate to admit it, but the Birchers done warned us this was the plan all along: let the former Soviet republics go to hell in a handbasket until they call on Russia to intervene and re-establish the old empire under a new Czar.

As I posted yesterday morning my thoughts on this conflict - it has all the makings of another Balkans involving three nations across Ethnic backgrounds.

Trouble is brewing.

re: #115 Joo-LiZ

Where is the international outrage? Where are the emergency UNSC meetings? Where are the demands for an investigation? Human Rights Organizations calling up every media organization in sight? Protests in the street?

/

Reading one of the articles (3rd one) an old man recounts his seeing a boy nailed to a tree. If the brutality has reached that level - may God have mercy on the civilians.

re: #115 Joo-LiZ

Where is the international outrage? Where are the emergency UNSC meetings? Where are the demands for an investigation? Human Rights Organizations calling up every media organization in sight? Protests in the street?

/

From a country most people outside the Eastern Europe/Asia Minor bloc haven't even heard of? Come on. Only the big names get the outrage, like Israel.

re: #115 Joo-LiZ

Human Rights Organizations calling up every media organization in sight?
/

Many are there, many are talking about what has been going on and have for a long time. The UN is doing stuff as well. Media just doesn't seem that interested in it. Those I suppose now the the big mother is really flexing media might pay more attention and make it more of a 'thing.'

re: #118 thedopefishlives

From a country most people outside the Eastern Europe/Asia Minor bloc haven't even heard of? Come on. Only the big names name gets the outrage, like Israel.

FTFY

re: #110 Jadespring

Great opportunity. Hope all works to your favor.

Good morning Lizards from "always sunny" Philadelphia.

A/C was fixed last night (after I had them bring in the on-call maintenance man). Three filters replaced to make the compressor happy(ier) and now there is cool air flowing for the first time in four days. Cats immediately took possession of the comfortable areas that would be cooled first and thus I got an up-ding on my cat overlord review form.

Any one have any suggestions about places to visit/see in the "upstate" New York area? I have vacation lined up next week and I going to go help some friends in north Jersey pack to move, and then head for western New York to visit my brother. From previous runs via that route I know that I pass within 10-15 miles of West Point, so I figure that is going to be one of the tourist stops I make. I'm also thinking off driving up the Hudson from there (if possible) and see the Saratoga battlefield area. Any further suggestions?

re: #121 Firstinla

Great opportunity. Hope all works to your favor.

My favor? What's that supposed to mean exactly?

re: #115 Joo-LiZ

Where is the international outrage? Where are the emergency UNSC meetings? Where are the demands for an investigation? Human Rights Organizations calling up every media organization in sight? Protests in the street?

/

Doesn't the US have air bases in both Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan?

re: #119 Jadespring

Many are there, many are talking about what has been going on and have for a long time. The UN is doing stuff as well. Media just doesn't seem that interested in it. Those I suppose now the the big mother is really flexing media might pay more attention and make it more of a 'thing.'

Oh yes, I'm sure there are bureaucrats in the various organizations whose job it is to keep an eye on places like these/incidents like these. I'm also sure they are doing there job, and we ARE hearing about the atrocities that are occurring.

It's just interesting to note how disproportionately Israel was skewered EVERYWHERE for the Flotilla incident. The response to large-scale violence like this is relatively mute.

re: #110 Jadespring

It really is. It's not a sure thing but potentially could be awesome. Last month I went to one of the monthly talks put on by a local community group. It was on a species at risk program in the area. The group does a lot of different things. Afterwords during coffee time I found out that one of their commitees is working on a couple of projects related to growing food. They'd been given a piece of land to use by a local person and were doing a soil rehabilitation project. I have an interest in that area so joined the group.

I went to a meeting yesterday to find out more about whats going and see where I might be able to put in some community volunteer time. Ends up they're really at the very beginning of the whole thing and not exactly sure what they're going to end up doing with this piece of land. They have lots of ideas, community garden, demonstration teaching gardens, growing plot for produce for lower income people etc etc. So I contributed a whole bunch of ideas and info etc etc. Then one of the guys says, 'Well you know one of the things we've been thinking seriously about is getting a couple of grants to actually pay for someone to facilitate this project. We've already talked to the granting people. You sound exactly like the sort of person we'd be looking for. Would you be interested an able to take on something like this?"

So long story short not only would I potentially get paid I get to basically create the project and the job. It's really a blank slate right now. The awesome thing about it is it's the type of work that I was prepared to volunteer to do. It would be getting paid to do something that I love and would do anyway. I don't think it gets much better then that. :D

Sounds fantastic! Congratulations and good luck!

re: #124 spare o'lake

Doesn't the US have air bases in both Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan?

Yup. Russia also has an air base in Kyrgyzstan. How times change eh?

re: #124 spare o'lake

Doesn't the US have air bases in both Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan?

I know they definitely have one in Kyrgyzstan. That was one of the issues during the coup a couple months ago.

Both Russia and the US have bases in Kyrgyzstan, and ours is important for suppying our forces in Afghanistan. No small detail.

re: #123 Jadespring

It sounds like there's a chance you'll be able to do something you love and get paid as well. Ihope it works out for you and all those who will benefit from the project. Sorry if what I wrote was somehow offensive. It was meant only as a commendation.

re: #118 thedopefishlives

From a country most people outside the Eastern Europe/Asia Minor bloc haven't even heard of? Come on. Only the big names get the outrage, like Israel.

Important US air base in Kyrgyzstan. Russia moving in. Obama wrote sekrit letters to Russia. We can only imagine the Russians' price for allowing America to keep that base open. Yikes.

The new crisis reminds me of the old Onion story, Clinton Deploys Vowels to Bosnia.

[Link: ifaq.wap.org...]

re: #130 Firstinla

It sounds like there's a chance you'll be able to do something you love and get paid as well. Ihope it works out for you and all those who will benefit from the project. Sorry if what I wrote was somehow offensive. It was meant only as a commendation.

OH my bad! So sorry. :( I brain farted on the post number. I thought the comment was a response to my #119 and was really confused.

re: #131 spare o'lake

Important US air base in Kyrgyzstan. Russia moving in. Obama wrote sekrit letters to Russia. We can only imagine the Russians' price for allowing America to keep that base open. Yikes.

Russia has actually behaved pretty decently so far. The only troops they moved in so far have been about 150-300 paratroopers to protect their air base. I mean I'm sure we'll here of a pro-Russian coup in a week or two, but hey, they're trying!

re: #129 abolitionist

Both Russia and the US have bases in Kyrgyzstan, and ours is important for suppying our forces in Afghanistan. No small detail.

The difference is, back when they had a dictator (not too long ago), the US was propping him up for the sake of keeping the airforce base there. The Russians didn't like him for various reasons, so they were highly critical of him. As a result, a lot of Kyrgyzs really like Russia, and aren't big fans of the US at the moment.

Recommended reading on it:
Michael Totten - The Revolution That Came Out of Nowhere

(The revolution happened in April)

re: #110 Jadespring

Sounds very interesting - I hope it comes through for you.

re: #135 Joo-LiZ

Thanks. Appreciate the link.

re: #134 McSpiff

Russia has actually behaved pretty decently so far. The only troops they moved in so far have been about 150-300 paratroopers to protect their air base. I mean I'm sure we'll here of a pro-Russian coup in a week or two, but hey, they're trying!

The Coup that overtook Kyrgyzstan most assuredly had influence from Russia, and was admitted to by politicians.
Russia may want to exert more "control" over the countries in this region, however I'm' sure they are not relishing the thought of having to station their military to keep the ethnic unrest at bay and thus tie up their troops.

re: #135 Joo-LiZ

The difference is, back when they had a dictator (not too long ago), the US was propping him up for the sake of keeping the airforce base there. The Russians didn't like him for various reasons, so they were highly critical of him. As a result, a lot of Kyrgyzs really like Russia, and aren't big fans of the US at the moment.

Recommended reading on it:
Michael Totten - The Revolution That Came Out of Nowhere

(The revolution happened in April)

Spot on. Totten FTW.

And in World Cup news...

New Zealand comes from behind in extended minutes to tie the game and wrest a point from the Slovakians.
Brilliant!

re: #138 Ericus58

The Coup that overtook Kyrgyzstan most assuredly had influence from Russia, and was admitted to by politicians.
Russia may want to exert more "control" over the countries in this region, however I'm' sure they are not relishing the thought of having to station their military to keep the ethnic unrest at bay and thus tie up their troops.

From what I understand it's a festering cesspool of corruption, criminal gangs, Islamism, brutality and ethnic hate - I say America should secure the US air bases and then let Russia choke on the mess.

Morning, fellow lizards. What's the good word?

re: #142 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Good morning. A gray start to the day here in LA.

Two Detained With Weapons At Florida Air Force Base

AMPA, Fla. (June 15, 2010)-The military says two heavily armed people are in custody at MacDill Air Force Base near Tampa, Fla. after they tried to enter the base without proper identification.

Security officers searched their sport-utility-vehicle and discovered military-style gear and weapons in the sport utility vehicle but no explosives.

MacDill public affairs officer Senior Airman Katherine B. Holt she didn't know how many weapons were removed but they were rifle-type.

Holt declined to immediately release suspects’ names but said the military was investigating the incident and the base is operating normally.

re: #143 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning. A gray start to the day here in LA.

I actually wish we'd have a gray day here, with plenty of rain. For almost a week now, they've kept promising rain, but we've seen nothing beyond a stray shower or two.

Dumbass of the week...

Woman Shoots Herself to Get Medical Care

The uninsured woman said she did it to get treatment for a shoulder injury.

re: #145 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I actually wish we'd have a gray day here, with plenty of rain. For almost a week now, they've kept promising rain, but we've seen nothing beyond a stray shower or two.

I could use the reverse. It's been raining or threatening to rain for a week straight, and I need to mow the yard in the worst way.

re: #147 thedopefishlives

I could use the reverse. It's been raining or threatening to rain for a week straight, and I need to mow the yard in the worst way.

I was thinking of mowing the law today, but we had one of those stray showers I was talking about come over last night. So I'll have to wait until later this afternoon, if not tomorrow, to do it.

re: #148 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I was thinking of mowing the law today, but we had one of those stray showers I was talking about come over last night. So I'll have to wait until later this afternoon, if not tomorrow, to do it.

Yeah. Most of my neighborhood is looking long and scraggly right about now. The ones that aren't, mow their yard pretty much every other day, rain or shine.

re: #148 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I was thinking of mowing the law today, but we had one of those stray showers I was talking about come over last night. So I'll have to wait until later this afternoon, if not tomorrow, to do it.

Which law? ;)

re: #143 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning. A gray start to the day here in LA.

I was Santa Monica yesterday and woke to one of those gray days. Today Im in the Central Valley and the temp may hit 103. I much prefer the gray.

re: #150 Mad Al-Jaffee

Which law? ;)

Well, I figured I'd start with that pesky law they got down at the beach 'bout women not being allowed to wear bikinis, then work my way up from there.

re: #151 Firstinla

June gloom we call it. Usually burns off by afternoon. Our 100+ days are coming no doubt. Where I grew up in Woodland Hills we would see 110 from time to time, and the record might be 115.

BBL

Kyrgyz violence began with coordinated attacks -UN

15 Jun 2010 10:36:13 GMT
Source: Reuters
* UN rights office says 5 coordinated attacks began violence

* Warns inter-ethnic violence could spiral out of control

GENEVA, June 15 (Reuters) - Violence in Kyrgyzstan appears to have begun with five coordinated attacks and has taken on an inter-ethnic character that could spiral out of control, the U.N. human rights office warned on Tuesday.
[snip]

It's supposed to rain today. I hope we get a little while I'm at work then stops by the time I get home. I need to get on my bike (haven't ridden since Saturday) and get some exercise tonight.

I am most encouraged by the recent interest in the NBA by Charles and the Lizards. Tonight I will be able to join in from the control room.

Any self-respecting Lizard needs to stand up and be counted wearing Celtic/Lizard green tonight.

I realized something today. June is LGBT Pride month. Is it just a coincidence that the World Cup is being played this month? :)

re: #157 Mad Al-Jaffee

I realized something today. June is LGBT Pride month. Is it just a coincidence that the World Cup is being played this month? :)

Now, I realize that was a joke, but I have to downding you anyway. You don't joke about certain things.

Portugal-Cote d'Ivoire is about to start, by the way...

re: #158 Nimed

Now, I realize that was a joke, but I have to downding you anyway. You don't joke about certain things.

Portugal-Cote d'Ivoire is about to start, by the way...

Still waiting on Brazil vs. The Communists. Gonna watch the Nintendo E3 conference to keep me awake till then.

re: #157 Mad Al-Jaffee

I realized something today. June is LGBT Pride month. Is it just a coincidence that the World Cup is being played this month? :)

I don't get the connection.

re: #158 Nimed

Now, I realize that was a joke, but I have to downding you anyway. You don't joke about certain things.

Portugal-Cote d'Ivoire is about to start, by the way...

The best gay jokes I ever heard came from the bartender in a gay bar in New Haven. Are they the only ones allowed to tell gay jokes?

re: #158 Nimed

Now, I realize that was a joke, but I have to downding you anyway. You don't joke about certain things.

Portugal-Cote d'Ivoire is about to start, by the way...

Yeah, I guess I deserved that. You probably won't like The Onion's lead story today.

re: #157 Mad Al-Jaffee

I realized something today. June is LGBT Pride month. Is it just a coincidence that the World Cup is being played this month? :)

Wrong kind of football.

/just fyi, i qualify as the 'b' in lgbt. (;

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

Two Detained With Weapons At Florida Air Force Base

Hmmm...still not updates on that story.

Woman died after being given smoker's lungs

The Government's "transplant tsar" insisted today that organ transplants were carried out on the basis of whether they would work - after it emerged that a cystic fibrosis sufferer died after receiving the lungs of a long-term smoker.

Chris Rudge, national clinical director for transplantation, said smoking was not the "issue" in the case of cystic fibrosis sufferer Lyndsey Scott, whose family have lodged a complaint after she received a double lung transplant from a 30-year smoker.

The 28-year-old, from Wigan, underwent the double transplant at Wythenshawe Hospital in Manchester in January last year and died in the July from pneumonia.

Her family have said they were not told that the donor smoked - and she would have been "horrified" to discover the organs were from a smoker of 30 years.

re: #164 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...still not updates on that story.

Mennonites maybe?

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

The best gay jokes I ever heard came from the bartender in a gay bar in New Haven. Are they the only ones allowed to tell gay jokes?

Ah! Don't confuse this with censorship or an attempt to enforce political correctness.

re: #164 Killgore Trout

It appears that they've figured that the man and woman are not in the military, but want to know why they were trying to get on base and why they had a significant cache of weapons and ammo.

BP credit rating slashed by Fitch Ratings

BP's credit rating was slashed a staggering six notches by Fitch Ratings on Tuesday, just hours before its top U.S. executive is grilled in front of Congress as worries over how much the company will have to pay for the Gulf of Mexico oil spill grow.

re: #168 lawhawk

Youtube Video

ture=player_embedded (video says two men, but other reports say it was a man and woman who were detained).

It appears that they've figured that the man and woman are not in the military, but want to know why they were trying to get on base and why they had a significant cache of weapons and ammo.

Yeah, it's an odd story. It Might have been a planned attack or maybe they were just going to pick up a friend to take to the firing range. Could be anything.

re: #156 _RememberTonyC

I am most encouraged by the recent interest in the NBA by Charles and the Lizards. Tonight I will be able to join in from the control room.

Any self-respecting Lizard needs to stand up and be counted wearing Celtic/Lizard green tonight.

I'm in....love to see the Lakers thrashed

Pushback from Related Cos over FoxNews story claiming the company has ties to various Middle East groups. Steve Cuozzo (of the Post) writes:

"I'm furious. They're trying to get the victims' families rather than the Port Authority to make the decision," fumed normally even-tempered Ross, who wouldn't say whom he meant by "they're."

"The partners they're talking about don't have an equity interest in our company," Ross said. "We have only two equity partners -- Goldman Sachs and Michael Dell's MSD Capital."

Related's Mideast partners, he said, "are just debtholders. They have a subordinated debt position with no rights.

"They have no seats on our board. There are no covenants that give them a say in anything."

The uproar erupted when Fox News Channel's Peter Johnson Jr. said on-air yesterday morning that Related is "substantially bankrolled by the most powerful Arab corporate interests in the world," and questioned whether it would be an appropriate partner at the site where nearly 3,000 were killed by terrorists on 9/11.

"For anyone who suffered loss, the news may be dizzying," Johnson said.

In fact, Related announced its debt agreements with Mideast funds Mubadala Development, Olayan Group and Kuwait Investment Authority in 2007, when the story was widely reported.

But Ross yesterday seethed over what he clearly regarded as an attempt to manipulate the PA into rejecting Related's bid at Ground Zero.

The PA wouldn't have been in this position at all if they simply got out of the way and let Larry Silverstein build the towers years ago, but chose instead to drag their feet, watched as the credit and real estate markets collapsed, and resulted in it becoming even more difficult in getting the site built out as per the master plan.

re: #156 _RememberTonyC

I am most encouraged by the recent interest in the NBA by Charles and the Lizards. Tonight I will be able to join in from the control room.

Any self-respecting Lizard needs to stand up and be counted wearing Celtic/Lizard green tonight.

If the Celtics win, it's only because they still haven't brought back Shaq.

There, I said it.

UC Irvine seeks to suspend Muslim student group

The Muslim Student Union at UC Irvine should be suspended for one year for its involvement in repeated disruptions of a February speech by Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren, according to a disciplinary report released by the university.

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

Morning, folks.

Oooh, Forbidden Planet... I haven't see that in years. Anne Francis was nice to look at! She's quite a fighter, too.

re: #175 MrSilverDragon

Seen, that is.

(dang it coffee, you're not working yet!)

re: #175 MrSilverDragon

Morning, folks.

Oooh, Forbidden Planet... I haven't see that in years. Anne Francis was nice to look at! She's quite a fighter, too.

Never seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a remake of it planned. Hollywood has pretty much run out of original ideas.

surfing the news....unbelievable how inept BP and the feds have been throughout this entire spill disaster, very disappointing and people wonder why I despise the federal govt?..Jindal has just given up and is moving forward on his own...I keep reading but I simply cannot find anything where BO has had much influence, two months into this disaster...he has missed a golden opportunity and has been not much more than 'present' from I can tell....the damage is totally out of control and the clunky, cumbersome federal response has been a nightmare....and it's all on BOs plate...he deserves to be severely criticized, showboating instead of expressing leadership...if he has, I've not seen it....goddamn feds can fuck up a wet dream

re: #177 Mad Al-Jaffee

Never seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a remake of it planned. Hollywood has pretty much run out of original ideas.

It does seem that way. It's like all the good ideas have already been thought.

re: #178 albusteve

It's Bush's fault!

Mornin' Lizards. Got my NRA membership card in the mail yesterday. Funny. I don't remember applying for that. In fact, I haven't supported the NRA since the Great Drooler was president in the early 80s...

re: #177 Mad Al-Jaffee

Never seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a remake of it planned. Hollywood has pretty much run out of original ideas.

J. Michael Straczynski was supposed to be working on it, with Joel Silver producing. But he's also been attached to several other projects, so there's no telling if it'll ever get out of development hell.

re: #177 Mad Al-Jaffee

Never seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a remake of it planned. Hollywood has pretty much run out of original ideas.

Lots of Holywood's scripts seem to be borrowing heavily from modern physics. Maybe Universal Studios ™ should be renamed Multiversal Studios.

re: #177 Mad Al-Jaffee

Never seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a remake of it planned. Hollywood has pretty much run out of original ideas.

Please see the original... as soon as possible... you will see how that movie shaped a lot of space fiction for the next generation... Roddenberry admits to the influence of that movie to Star Trek.

In Forbidden Planet the ships name is the Enterprise, it's mission was as an ambassador to other civilizations and planets, they questioned interfering with other races... just watch it and you'll see... also the most expensive sci-fir film made in the 50's... 2 million budget... color... very inventive tonal music score by the Bebe couple... all theremin work... only occasionally a few cheesy shots...

re: #177 Mad Al-Jaffee

Never seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a remake of it planned. Hollywood has pretty much run out of original ideas.

Actually... it's in development, and slated for 2013...

I think they can't come up with original ideas as well as they used to... must be all the anti-anxiety drugs that they can't filter out of the water out there...

/ by 1/2

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Just added it to my Netflix queue. Not sure when I'll get a chance to watch it. I have season 3 of Burn Notice at the top of my queue, but I need to watch and return the 3 discs I have now before I can watch that.

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Please see the original... as soon as possible... you will see how that movie shaped a lot of space fiction for the next generation... Roddenberry admits to the influence of that movie to Star Trek.

In Forbidden Planet the ships name is the Enterprise, it's mission was as an ambassador to other civilizations and planets, they questioned interfering with other races... just watch it and you'll see... also the most expensive sci-fir film made in the 50's... 2 million budget... color... very inventive tonal music score by the Bebe couple... all theremin work... only occasionally a few cheesy shots...

Oh and based on Shakespeare's "The Tempest."

I hate people...
Some fool went screaming down the street a 5 something this morning with horns blaring.
I is cranky.
Bad Morning everyone!

re: #185 MrSilverDragon

Actually... it's in development, and slated for 2013...

I think they can't come up with original ideas as well as they used to... must be all the anti-anxiety drugs that they can't filter out of the water out there...

/ by 1/2

Too bad... we will probably have massive CGI and bucket full of body parts splashing around. What made the original so suspenseful is you barely ever saw the Id monster... and when you did, you never wanted to see it again... especially in your dreams... very Hitchcock.

re: #186 Mad Al-Jaffee

Just added it to my Netflix queue. Not sure when I'll get a chance to watch it. I have season 3 of Burn Notice at the top of my queue, but I need to watch and return the 3 discs I have now before I can watch that.

It's really good.

re: #188 Varek Raith

I hate people...
Some fool went screaming down the street a 5 something this morning with horns blaring.
I is cranky.
Bad Morning everyone!

Oops, that was me. I'll remember to put the glass packs on next time.

Marist poll finds 25% of NYers support the Tea Parties.

A statewide Marist Poll of 686 New Yorkers commissioned last month by the Daily News highlighted the phenomenon: One in four registered voters statewide considers himself a Tea Party supporter. That translates to 21% in the city, and 25% in Long Island and Westchester County - enough to make politicians tremble.

"Want to know how big a deal they are?" asked former Staten Island Borough President and longtime GOP powerhouse Guy Molinari, 81. "If I were running today, I would be kissing their butts."

That's just what pols are doing. At a recent Tea Party-sponsored candidate's forum on Staten Island, they sounded like colonial revolutionaries decrying King George III.

"Get the troops out of Korea - and send them to the border of Mexico!" roared ex-CIA officer Gary Berntsen, the GOP hope to topple U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer.

"Citizens and patriots!" shouted former Rep. Rick Lazio, the Republican Party's nominee for governor. "We have a government that overtaxes, overspends, overreaches and overregulates - and we want them out of our lives!"

Oy... Get the troops out of Korea and send them to the US border with Mexico? Really? With the situation in Korea the way it is? That's sound national security policy?

Schumer isn't likely to lose his Senate seat. And Lazio has next to no shot at beating Cuomo for governor. Their policy prescriptions aren't going to help either.

re: #181 darthstar

Mornin' Lizards. Got my NRA membership card in the mail yesterday. Funny. I don't remember applying for that. In fact, I haven't supported the NRA since the Great Drooler was president in the early 80s...

how unoriginal

re: #188 Varek Raith

I hate people...
Some fool went screaming down the street a 5 something this morning with horns blaring.
I is cranky.
Bad Morning everyone!

How far did they get before the Force Choke shut them up?

Half time in Portugal - Ivory Coast. Extremely boring game so far. You can bore yourself here:
[Link: espn.go.com...]

I heard recently that Al Green is running for Senate in South Carolina! Very cool! I think he should use his song "Love and Happiness" as his campaign theme.

/

re: #196 Mad Al-Jaffee

I heard recently that Al Green is running for Senate in South Carolina! Very cool! I think he should use his song "Love and Happiness" as his campaign theme.

/

That's a much better choice than "Keep Me Cryin'".

Stock market volume is crap. I got a feeling that one whiff of bad news and it's look out below.

Gen. David Petraeus Recovering After Collapsing at Capitol Hill Hearing (story developing)

Did someone mention Al Green?

re: #199 Ericus58

Gen. David Petraeus Recovering After Collapsing at Capitol Hill Hearing (story developing)

Oh, no. Link to the developing story?

re: #199 Ericus58

Gen. David Petraeus Recovering After Collapsing at Capitol Hill Hearing (story developing)

CNN

Look at al that fruit salad on his chest.

re: #193 albusteve

how unoriginal

I gave him that nickname when he was still president...I'm not about to change now.

I'm honestly at a loss for words...

American claiming to be hunting bin Laden arrested

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – An American armed with a pistol and a 40-inch (102-centimeter) sword was detained in northern Pakistan and told investigators he was on a solo mission to kill Osama bin Laden, a police officer said Tuesday.

The man, identified as 52-year-old Californian construction worker Gary Brooks Faulkner, said he wanted to cross over into the nearby Afghan province of Nuristan because he had "heard bin Laden was living there", according to officer Mumtaz Ahmad Khan.

Faulkner was picked up in a forest in the Chitral region late on Sunday, he said.

Ugh. You know what really sucks? Family members that take take take and then push and push and push until you get to the point where the only way to keep your sanity is to cut them off.

Sorry just had to rant a little. My one sister has already reached her breaking point and cut my other sister off of contact. It's been a long time coming and after what she's apparently doing tomorrow she's hitting my last straw breaking point as well. Totally stinks.

Bloody Sunday report states those killed were innocent

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The report said that the Army fired the first shot of the day in one of the most controversial state killings in the Northern Ireland conflict.

Speaking in the House of Commons, Mr Cameron said what happened on Bloody Sunday was unjustifiable and wrong. He said his government and the country were "deeply sorry".
Army fired first shot

Mr Cameron said:

* No warning had been given to any civilians before the soldiers opened fire.

* None of the soldiers fired in response to attacks by petrol bombers or stone throwers

* Some of those killed or injured were clearly fleeing or going to help those injured or dying
* None of the casualties was posing a threat .... or doing anything that would justify their shooting
* There was no point in trying to soften or equivocate - the events of Bloody Sunday were not justified
* Many of the soldiers lied about their actions
* What happened should never, ever have happened
* Some members of the British armed forces acted wrongly
* On behalf of the government and the country, he said he was "deeply sorry".

I hope the Peace process continues forward, and that all the parties work to heal the remaining differences.
Governance has been settled by and large.
What remains now is the Will to live in peace amongst the Protestants and Catholic populations.

re: #202 MandyManners

Says he came back in but they put the hearing off. One question I have.
What the heck did somebody say to him?!! Given that he is fine, I suspect it was an inability to hear that much BS from those congress people. Mere speculation of course.//

Excerpted from CNN
[Posted at 10:30 a.m.] Opening a hearing on Afghanistan, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI), the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, questioned the progress and planning for U.S. efforts in Afghanistan.

re: #205 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm honestly at a loss for words...

American claiming to be hunting bin Laden arrested

Oathkeeper? A freelancer out hunting? OMG, it is almost funny.

re: #205 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm honestly at a loss for words...

American claiming to be hunting bin Laden arrested

As my buddy Barney would say, he's a nut.

Petraeus Slumps Over Desk During Senate Hearing

Petraeus Slumps Over Desk During Senate Hearing

All stories I've skimmed seem to report that he's doing well. But they seem to be platitudes. Getting someone qyuckly to their feet after such an event was probably not wise.

re: #206 Jadespring

Ugh. You know what really sucks? Family members that take take take and then push and push and push until you get to the point where the only way to keep your sanity is to cut them off.

Sorry just had to rant a little. My one sister has already reached her breaking point and cut my other sister off of contact. It's been a long time coming and after what she's apparently doing tomorrow she's hitting my last straw breaking point as well. Totally stinks.

No advice, just sympathy.

re: #209 Rightwingconspirator

Oathkeeper? A freelancer out hunting? OMG, it is almost funny.

He's a bit of a nutter...they did a piece on him on NPR a few weeks ago. Was a biker and drug addict who reformed and is now a Christian Minister who says God told him it's alright to kill...bin Laden.

Born-again nutters...they're often the most extreme.

re: #206 Jadespring

I can relate. Families have a way of stomping on your last nerve.

re: #211 abolitionist

Petraeus Slumps Over Desk During Senate Hearing

Petraeus Slumps Over Desk During Senate Hearing

All stories I've skimmed seem to report that he's doing well. But they seem to be platitudes. Getting someone qyuckly to their feet after such an event was probably not wise.

I read that he had backpain and was on some sort of painkiller -- might have been a negative reaction??

Hopefully it's nothing serious.

re: #208 Rightwingconspirator

Dehydration.

pimf: quickly

Armed man at MacDill AFB was AWOL from military, official says

TAMPA — A man who tried to enter MacDill Air Force Base with a cache of military gear and weapons Monday night is an active duty member of the military listed absent without leave, a base official said Tuesday.

The official, speaking at a news conference, did not identify the man and woman who he said tried to enter the base in an SUV that contained three rifles, three handguns and "a tremendous amount of ammunition" Monday evening.

Their motive for accessing the base remains under investigation, said Col. Dave Cohen, 6th Air Mobility Wing vice commander.

"At this point there is no indication that it is a terrorist act," Cohen said.

Why the secrecy of the identities?

re: #198 Boogberg

Stock market volume is crap. I got a feeling that one whiff of bad news and it's look out below.

Maybe people were waiting for numbers to come out....
U.S. stocks rise on inflation, New York manufacturing data

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re: #218 NJDhockeyfan

Wow. Sounds like that guy was getting ready to murder a lot of people.

re: #220 yasharki

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re: #212 MandyManners

re: #214 Boogberg

Yeah. I'm at a loss. It's the guilt I have to deal with, like I keep thinking, maybe if I try this, or say this or take another tact. I just can't think of anything else though. Any help or compassion just keeps getting thrown back in our faces over and over and now she's completely playing my parents and after tomorrow will have turned into a liar and a thief as well.

I can't in anyway condone this sort of behavior no matter what 'problems' she might be having right now. It's just not right.

re: #213 darthstar

He's a bit of a nutter...they did a piece on him on NPR a few weeks ago. Was a biker and drug addict who reformed and is now a Christian Minister who says God told him it's alright to kill...bin Laden.

Born-again nutters...they're often the most extreme.

The worst...

re: #223 Jadespring

re: #214 Boogberg

Yeah. I'm at a loss. It's the guilt I have to deal with, like I keep thinking, maybe if I try this, or say this or take another tact. I just can't think of anything else though. Any help or compassion just keeps getting thrown back in our faces over and over and now she's completely playing my parents and after tomorrow will have turned into a liar and a thief as well.

I can't in anyway condone this sort of behavior no matter what 'problems' she might be having right now. It's just not right.

Maybe it's time to disengage.

re: #213 darthstar

He's a bit of a nutter...they did a piece on him on NPR a few weeks ago. Was a biker and drug addict who reformed and is now a Christian Minister who says God told him it's alright to kill...bin Laden.

Born-again nutters...they're often the most extreme.

When I first began reading the article, particularly the part about the sword, my first thought was "Is he some distant relation of Jack Churchill?"

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

Welcome aboard. Just don't say anything you wouldn't want your mother to read when she isn't drunk and you'll be fine. :)

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

What do you want to know... I'm always very helpful.

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

Welcome!

See Mandy's #222. Charles has listed the "rules" right above all the comments.

Generally speaking, be polite, have fun.

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

ASL!

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re: #228 Walter L. Newton

What do you want to know... I'm always very helpful.

AND DON'T LISTEN TO WALTER!!!
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re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

Welcome, yasharki.

A newbie must provide snacks and beverages for the old timers.

I'll have a Caramel Macchiato and a blueberry muffin.

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

Also, there is no "party line" to follow here. Everyone has their own views, and LGF tends to have quite the diversity of views broken down by issue, not so much by any particular ideology. You may find yourself arguing with people on the issue of, say, the environment, in one thread, and find yourself in total agreement on an issue about some sort of foreign policy event in the next thread.

Always be willing to evaluate other people's evidence/arguments, and be ready to find your own evidence/back up you own arguments, and will be swell.

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

Alouette's right. The beer's on you.

re: #221 Boogberg

Wow. Sounds like that guy was getting ready to murder a lot of people.

update...

TAMPA, Fla. -- The man who tried entering MacDill Air Force Base with a car full of military-style gear and weapons is an active member of the member listed as absent without leave.

At a news conference Tuesday, officials at MacDill said the man and a woman also in the car had three rifles, three handguns and loads of ammunition in their sport utility vehicle.

An official said there is no indication the incident was an act of terrorism.

Neither the man nor the woman involved have been identified. They are still being questioned.

Authorities say the pair tried driving in with fraudulent military identification. Security asked them to get out of the vehicle and searched the car.

Sounds like things would've gotten ugly fast if they didn't get caught at the gate.

re: #220 yasharki

Dear LGF participants, I've just registered, and would like to know where I can read up on the basic rules of engagement, policies, etiquette , of LGF. Is there a link for LGF newbies?

Most important, newbies buy drinks for the rest of us!

re: #222 MandyManners

Sounds like I can just jump right into this lizard pond!
Thanks for the hospitality!!! I'll behave :)

Petraeus Collapses During Hill Hearing

re: #231 darthstar

AND DON'T LISTEN TO WALTER!!!
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Don't listen to Darthstar... he stole my logon... it's really him posting as me... don't let him confuse you.

re: #231 darthstar

AND DON'T LISTEN TO WALTER!!!
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OR CATO!!!

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re: #237 yasharki

Sounds like I can just jump right into this lizard pond!
Thanks for the hospitality!!! I'll behave :)

You'd better. Else we feed you to the dreaded Nodrog.

re: #237 yasharki

Sounds like I can just jump right into this lizard pond!
Thanks for the hospitality!!! I'll behave :)

Enjoy!

I'm not big on beer, but if you like vodak or cognac, you're welcome at my pond, on me!

re: #225 MandyManners

Maybe it's time to disengage.

Yeah it is. Hubby agrees as well. I just feel super bad for my parents who are dealing with it all right now as they have taken her in for the time being. Not that she cares. She's milking them for everything they have right now and at the same time crapping on them as being responsible for all her problems. She's one messed up cookie. They have no idea what to do either and just can't get their minds around the notion that they may have to disengage as well. They just keep hoping it will change and l just don't think it is going too unless they go drastic.

re: #243 yasharki

I'm not big on beer, but if you like vodak or cognac, you're welcome at my pond, on me!

I prefer Basil Hayden's.

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

Don't listen to Darthstar... he stole my logon... it's really him posting as me... don't let him confuse you.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

re: #244 Jadespring

Yeah it is. Hubby agrees as well. I just feel super bad for my parents who are dealing with it all right now as they have taken her in for the time being. Not that she cares. She's milking them for everything they have right now and at the same time crapping on them as being responsible for all her problems. She's one messed up cookie. They have no idea what to do either and just can't get their minds around the notion that they may have to disengage as well. They just keep hoping it will change and l just don't think it is going too unless they go drastic.

I don't think you can force their hand. I know it must be incredibly frustrating.

re: #223 Jadespring

Is it drug related? My own sister was led astray in that regard a few years back.

Well, not wanting to be out-done by Arizona, a New Mexico congressional hopeful has another suggestion for border security...

LAND MINES!!!

The Republican nominee for a New Mexico congressional seat suggested during a radio interview that the United States could place land mines along the Mexican border to secure the international boundary.

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Mullins subsequently won the primary June 1.

In the May 18 interview with KNMX radio in Las Vegas, N.M., Mullins says the U.S. could mine the border, install barbed wire and post signs directing would-be border jumpers to cross legally at designated checkpoints.
...snip

re: #243 yasharki

I'm not big on beer, but if you like vodak or cognac, you're welcome at my pond, on me!

Cognac is too expensive, but I'll definitely have some vodak! :D

Okay...time to skedaddle...bbl.

Eight weeks into the oil spill disaster in the Gulf of the Mexico, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has told the National Guard that there's no time left to wait for BP, so they're taking matters into their own hands.

Jindal isn't waiting any longer for the feds to respond...

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]