Onion: Joad Cressbeckler on NASA’s Honeyfuggling Ways
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It’s been too long since crusty old weirdo Joad Cressbeckler got into his stance and let ‘er rip.
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DaddyG Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:50:18pm |
Sadly I understood most of what he was saying. 15 Years in the South will do that to ya.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:52:56pm |
re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Video doesn't seem to want to play.
If you have a script blocker you need to make an exception for onion.
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Kragar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:54:19pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
If you have a script blocker you need to make an exception for onion.
No, it just hung there for a few minutes, then decided to work, didn't refresh the page or anything.
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HAL2010 Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:55:11pm |
Well I'm English and I didn't understand a word he just said. but I'm sure he was sensible, mild mannered and a gentleman to that lovely woman.
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nines09 Tue, Sep 21, 2010 2:57:00pm |
Well it's time Molly Coddle and her bright pink parasol got ripped off the shitter and made to smell her own bizzness.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:01:23pm |
14 year old gets 21,000 RSVPs for her party
Mom, we're going to need more Chex Mix.
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deranged cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:06:00pm |
youre splitting us apart charles! those who still want to talk about DADT are two posts back.. then you post an O'Donnel post and people are hanging out there, and this post with the crazy old man barely has any activity :P
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Charles Johnson Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:07:42pm |
"You know, it riles me up every time you walk in here, Ellie. You set my blood to dancin' with all yer pillowy parts."
"Oh, stop it, Joad."
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:16:57pm |
re: #9 deranged cat
youre splitting us apart charles! those who still want to talk about DADT are two posts back.. then you post an O'Donnel post and people are hanging out there, and this post with the crazy old man barely has any activity :P
there is something to be said for peace & quiet...
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:17:59pm |
Satire gets harder and harder with each passing week here in the burgeoning idiocracy.
Except for his ability to turn a colorful phrase, Joad would sound like any number of actual NASA-bashing luddites.
With her penchant for hyperbole and exaggeration , the young lady is even closer to the real thing: "NASA spends trillions of dollars a year" and "the average manned mission costs 15 billion dollars," are in the ballpark for actual space-basher claims. (These are between 30 and 200 times the actual amounts, btw.)
Few public issues in history have been as wildly misperceived and misrepresented as NASA's budget and the costs associated with spaceflight.
The average American thinks that NASA receives 24% of the federal budget, more than 40 times the actual figure.
Just recently, I heard a noted televangelist tell his audience that NASA spends "hundreds of billion dollars a year looking for UFOs." The audience didn't bat an eye at this double lie, apparently it is something "everybody knows."
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:22:48pm |
re: #13 Shiplord Kirel
Satire gets harder and harder with each passing week here in the burgeoning idiocracy.
Except for his ability to turn a colorful phrase, Joad would sound like any number of actual NASA-bashing luddites.
With her penchant for hyperbole and exaggeration , the young lady is even closer to the real thing: "NASA spends trillions of dollars a year" and "the average manned mission costs 15 billion dollars," are in the ballpark for actual space-basher claims. (These are between 30 and 200 times the actual amounts, btw.)Few public issues in history have been as wildly misperceived and misrepresented as NASA's budget and the costs associated with spaceflight.
The average American thinks that NASA receives 24% of the federal budget, more than 40 times the actual figure.
Just recently, I heard a noted televangelist tell his audience that NASA spends "hundreds of billion dollars a year looking for UFOs." The audience didn't bat an eye at this double lie, apparently it is something "everybody knows."
"everybody knows" would make for a good rotating title... juss saying.
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deranged cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:27:37pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:31:47pm |
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What, me worry? Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:33:57pm |
Oh Charles, you have to do an LGF interview with Joad. It'll be the first evah!
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Cato the Elder Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:34:54pm |
Back now from funferal and wake.
Wake is the best part.
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darthstar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:39:40pm |
Someone's getting her rocks off on Murkowski's committee woes...
# politico Senate Republicans plan to vote this week on whether to strip #Murkowski of her top slot on an energy committee: [Link: politi.co...] about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck Retweeted by SarahPalinUSA and 29 others
# E2Wire Murkowski to lose top GOP spot on Senate Energy Committee [Link: bit.ly...] about 1 hour ago via twitterfeed Retweeted by SarahPalinUSA and 14 others
Sarah, you petty, petty woman. Trash doesn't fall far from the trailer, does it?
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darthstar Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:42:03pm |
re: #16 brookly red
/I wonder, is it illegal to shout "fire" in an empty theater?
You can climb a mountain,
You can swim the sea...
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What, me worry? Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:43:39pm |
re: #18 Cato the Elder
Back now from funferal and wake.
Wake is the best part.
You got through it ok then?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:47:49pm |
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TedStriker Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:50:37pm |
re: #19 darthstar
Someone's getting her rocks off on Murkowski's committee woes...
Sarah, you petty, petty woman. Trash doesn't fall far from the trailer, does it?
Lemme get this straight...Sarah and the TPers want to strip Lisa Murkowski of her Senate Energy Committee position, which could hurt Alaska since their major exports are oil & gas (along with the fishing industry), simply because they want to marginalize her even more.
The (lack of) logic is astounding...
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:51:11pm |
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:54:05pm |
re: #19 darthstar
Someone's getting her rocks off on Murkowski's committee woes...
Sarah, you petty, petty woman. Trash doesn't fall far from the trailer, does it?
Now you know why she was under so many ethics investigations while she was governor. Because she's a backstabbing vindictive slime ball. She quit the governorship in large part because she didn't want the dirt to made public.
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bratwurst Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:56:32pm |
re: #26 Gus 802
She quit the governorship in large part because she didn't want the dirt to made public.
Seems like at the time she said she was quitting in order to prove that she was NOT a quitter...or something.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:57:12pm |
Oh Joad, Joad, Joad...
You can get your own dang sandwich. Fridge is that way.
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 3:57:22pm |
re: #27 bratwurst
Seems like at the time she said she was quitting in order to prove that she was NOT a quitter...or something.
I am not a quitter! I quit!
/
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:00:22pm |
re: #28 EmmmieG
Oh Joad, Joad, Joad...
You can get your own dang sandwich. Fridge is that way.
Oooh 3 day old pizza... mind if I nuke some up?
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:01:31pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:01:34pm |
re: #30 brookly red
Oooh 3 day old pizza... mind if I nuke some up?
Fine. Mind the pineapples. They don't reheat so well.
There's some cookie dough in there, too. Feel free to cook yourself some.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:02:23pm |
DJ Kitty
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:02:38pm |
re: #33 EmmmieG
Fine. Mind the pineapples. They don't reheat so well.
There's some cookie dough in there, too. Feel free to cook yourself some.
Cool... whats this green furry stuff?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:03:14pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:03:29pm |
re: #23 Killgore Trout
I haven't seen so many Millionaires and Billionaires whine so much about money and taxes for the last 3 months in my life...The top 2% have to go back to paying the same rate as 8 years ago..Which by the way..The were really rich 8 years ago paying those rates...And they are the ones creating all the jobs? Over sold on Fox...
'Hey..My Taxes went up 5%! I can't create any more jobs!
Shut the effen up and go back to the Hamptons and measure for new curtains..I'm sure somebody will invest in the next newest greatest Startup in Silicone Valley And I don't give a crap if it's your money or not
/Birthday rant! Hi Lizards!
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:04:29pm |
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Obdicut Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:05:34pm |
re: #37 HoosierHoops
We can't all be millionaires. We can't have a society that's geared towards millionaires. We need a society that's about the American Dream being available to everyone.
And a very happy birthday to you.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:06:55pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:07:00pm |
re: #37 HoosierHoops
I haven't seen so many Millionaires and Billionaires whine so much about money and taxes for the last 3 months in my life...The top 2% have to go back to paying the same rate as 8 years ago..Which by the way..The were really rich 8 years ago paying those rates...And they are the ones creating all the jobs? Over sold on Fox...
'Hey..My Taxes went up 5%! I can't create any more jobs!
Shut the effen up and go back to the Hamptons and measure for new curtains..I'm sure somebody will invest in the next newest greatest Startup in Silicone Valley And I don't give a crap if it's your money or not
/Birthday rant! Hi Lizards!
Happy Birthday! what did you get me ?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:09:09pm |
re: #37 HoosierHoops
I haven't seen so many Millionaires and Billionaires whine so much about money and taxes for the last 3 months in my life...The top 2% have to go back to paying the same rate as 8 years ago..Which by the way..The were really rich 8 years ago paying those rates...And they are the ones creating all the jobs? Over sold on Fox...
'Hey..My Taxes went up 5%! I can't create any more jobs!
Shut the effen up and go back to the Hamptons and measure for new curtains..I'm sure somebody will invest in the next newest greatest Startup in Silicone Valley And I don't give a crap if it's your money or not
/Birthday rant! Hi Lizards!
Yeah, I don't have much sympathy either.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:09:42pm |
re: #39 Obdicut
We can't all be millionaires. We can't have a society that's geared towards millionaires. We need a society that's about the American Dream being available to everyone.
And a very happy birthday to you.
what exactly is the American Dream these days?...
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:10:26pm |
re: #43 brookly red
It shouldn't be owning a house, I'll tell ya that :p
I think its down to 'affordable food and shelter' at this point
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:10:53pm |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I don't have much sympathy either.
/If you look in Webster's sympathy falls between shit & syphilis...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:11:49pm |
re: #43 brookly red
growing up i thought it was having a good job, a home to call your own, a family, some pets maybe, and in general being happy.
Now it seems it's keeping or finding a shitty job, hoping to keep the home you have and that you don't lose the marriage/family over money and stress issues. Pets are secondary (and sadly I've seen a lot end up in shelters because owners couldn't afford them) and in general staying "above water".
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:12:06pm |
re: #44 windsagio
It shouldn't be owning a house, I'll tell ya that :p
I think its down to 'affordable food and shelter' at this point
I probably would agree but I am ignoring you...
Doh!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:12:21pm |
I notice Instapundit is silent about his friend's retirement from blogging. I think Instapundit even deleted his link t the offending post. I can't seem to find it.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:12:25pm |
re: #39 Obdicut
We can't all be millionaires. We can't have a society that's geared towards millionaires. We need a society that's about the American Dream being available to everyone.
And a very happy birthday to you.
Well this is a first...Sitting in a Hotel..Just Winston and I..Alone..Waiting for the road trip...on my Birthday....
I am very thankful for the last year and look forward to the joy of the new year..The adventures, Growth as a man, Learning new stuff..And all that life
is and becomes..Every day.. Every morning I wake up
/OK that's the beer talking..Pretty good huh?
//
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:14:03pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:14:16pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:14:45pm |
re: #50 HoosierHoops
Well this is a first...Sitting in a Hotel..Just Winston and I..Alone..Waiting for the road trip...on my Birthday...
I am very thankful for the last year and look forward to the joy of the new year..The adventures, Growth as a man, Learning new stuff..And all that life
is and becomes..Every day.. Every morning I wake up
/OK that's the beer talking..Pretty good huh?
//
Well, Happy Birthday to you.
If the kids don't call, call them. If you're in a hotel, they might not know how to reach you.
If Winston doesn't call...lack of opposable thumbs, so don't blame him.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:15:43pm |
re: #51 brookly red
I'm not giving up. I have the pets, the good job and am getting married in October (granted it's the second attempt at the marriage thing). The home is coming in a few years and things aren't too that bleak for me. I am talking about the big picture for a lot of folks. I'm one of the luckier ones.
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:15:53pm |
re: #51 brookly red
Never said that :P
I will say, that the dream of home ownership is a huge drain on our country, that we'd be better off without.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:16:25pm |
re: #55 windsagio
Never said that :P
I will say, that the dream of home ownership is a huge drain on our country, that we'd be better off without.
Someone forcing you to purchase a home?
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:17:09pm |
Well look who got him some farm subsidies: Joe Miller of Alaska.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:17:44pm |
re: #53 EmmmieG
Well, Happy Birthday to you.
If the kids don't call, call them. If you're in a hotel, they might not know how to reach you.
If Winston doesn't call...lack of opposable thumbs, so don't blame him.
All the kids called..It's been a pretty good day..except at work..But that's like the law right?
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:18:01pm |
re: #57 Dreggas
Well look who got him some farm subsidies: Joe Miller of Alaska.
Classic. Get the KY jelly for the teabaggers!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:18:48pm |
re: #55 windsagio
Never said that :P
I will say, that the dream of home ownership is a huge drain on our country, that we'd be better off without.
That's odd. I thought that the lack of home ownership (better known as capital) in South American countries was a huge handicap to their economies, because it meant the people couldn't leverage their equity to start businesses.
Interesting quote from McCullough's Adams: The Adamses bought land because they had never heard of land that broke or ran away.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:19:07pm |
re: #46 Dreggas
growing up i thought it was having a good job, a home to call your own, a family, some pets maybe, and in general being happy.
Now it seems it's keeping or finding a shitty job, hoping to keep the home you have and that you don't lose the marriage/family over money and stress issues. Pets are secondary (and sadly I've seen a lot end up in shelters because owners couldn't afford them) and in general staying "above water".
Also, being able to afford your own health care, and schooling.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:19:23pm |
re: #61 prairiefire
true enough.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:20:11pm |
The American Dream is about a bunch of rich people bitching about not being rich enough.
/
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engineer cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:20:14pm |
re: #57 Dreggas
Well look who got him some farm subsidies: Joe Miller of Alaska.
hey - it's expensive to produce all that bullshit
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:20:24pm |
re: #55 windsagio
Never said that :P
I will say, that the dream of home ownership is a huge drain on our country, that we'd be better off without.
Interesting... I guess I fall into that group, I don't want to own a home or a car or pretty much anything else. I rent what I need then I walk away...
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:21:30pm |
re: #56 Walter L. Newton
Someone forcing you to purchase a home?
/we need to pass it to see whats in it...
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:21:38pm |
re: #56 Walter L. Newton
Someone forcing you to purchase a home?
I know friends that have really screwed themselves because they felt 'that was next on the checklist', if you know what I mean :p
re: #60 EmmmieG
That's odd. I thought that the lack of home ownership (better known as capital) in South American countries was a huge handicap to their economies, because it meant the people couldn't leverage their equity to start businesses.
Interesting quote from McCullough's Adams: The Adamses bought land because they had never heard of land that broke or ran away.
Not the way we're doing it now tho', plenty of people are buying homes that really shouldn't be. That's the problem.
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:22:17pm |
re: #65 brookly red
Interesting... I guess I fall into that group, I don't want to own a home or a car or pretty much anything else. I rent what I need then I walk away...
we have some similarities :p
I mean if one fell into my lap I woudln't say no, but...
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engineer cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:22:39pm |
Historian James Truslow Adams coined the phrase "American Dream" in his 1931 book Epic of America:
“ The American Dream is that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for every man, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement. It is a difficult dream for the European upper classes to interpret adequately, also too many of us ourselves have grown weary and mistrustful of it. It is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:23:09pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:23:59pm |
re: #68 windsagio
we have some similarities :p
I mean if one fell into my lap I woudln't say no, but...
house falls on man... film at 11:00.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:24:29pm |
re: #67 windsagio
Well, yes, people were buying homes who lacked stable incomes, and people were buying homes that were above what they could afford.
Totally agreed.
However, in general, land and homes can build wealth.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:24:53pm |
re: #70 Walter L. Newton
I don't understand what you mean?
it was a joke... if they can force you to buy insurance they can force you to buy a home.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:25:54pm |
re: #72 windsagio
Are you saying I'm a witch!?
O'Donnell told me were a good witch so I'm going with that..
/
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Obdicut Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:26:15pm |
re: #69 engineer dog
Yep. To me it's about people not being wasted. About people being able to achieve up to their potential. About people not being stuck as ditchdiggers if they could be brilliant architects-- and about ditchdiggers being respected as doing honest work and not deserving of scorn because their job pays less than other jobs.
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:26:15pm |
re: #69 engineer dog
Historian James Truslow Adams coined the phrase "American Dream" in his 1931 book Epic of America:
“ The American Dream is that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for every man, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement. It is a difficult dream for the European upper classes to interpret adequately, also too many of us ourselves have grown weary and mistrustful of it. It is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position
Sounds like it's been basterdized over the years. Today the American Dream revolves mostly around a materialist ideal. Although his idea of an American Idea, while more spiritual, sounds equally utopian.
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:26:35pm |
re: #73 EmmmieG
Well, yes, people were buying homes who lacked stable incomes, and people were buying homes that were above what they could afford.
Totally agreed.
However, in general, land and homes can build wealth.
And can be a value as such. They're not a value in of themselves.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:26:46pm |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:26:48pm |
Christine O'Donnell claims CREW has no credibility because they received a donation from GEORGE SOROS!
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:27:19pm |
re: #77 Gus 802
Sounds like it's been basterdized over the years. Today the American Dream revolves mostly around a materialist ideal. Although his idea of an American Idea, while more spiritual, sounds equally utopian.
I think its time to read Fear and Loathing again >>
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:27:20pm |
re: #67 windsagio
I know friends that have really screwed themselves because they felt 'that was next on the checklist', if you know what I mean :p
re: #60 EmmmieG
Not the way we're doing it now tho', plenty of people are buying homes that really shouldn't be. That's the problem.
Er... no, I don't know what you mean at all. I've never felt anything was next on my anything. I take life in metered stages, taking care of the necessities first, anything else is gravy, and I don't get overly attached to property or popular culture, sort of live like I want to, when I'm able to, when it's affordable and when I can do it comfortably.
And those that are buying homes that they shouldn't be in, that's not the problem, that's their problem, and I don't feel sorry for them one bit.
No one is holding a gun to anyones head forcing them to purchase shit.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:27:43pm |
re: #74 brookly red
it was a joke... if they can force you to buy insurance they can force you to buy a home.
that was before the gubermit got involved....
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:28:14pm |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
that's a pretty remarkable lack of empathy :P
You'll have to take my word for it that such people exist ;)
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:28:15pm |
re: #81 windsagio
I think its time to read Fear and Loathing again >>
Not sure if I can do that now -- it's late afternoon. My best fear and loathing moments are in the morning when my head is all clouded up. /
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:28:41pm |
re: #83 brookly red
Reminds me of people blaming the gub'mint for forcing banks to make bad loans >>
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:28:45pm |
re: #28 EmmmieG
Oh Joad, Joad, Joad...
You can get your own dang sandwich. Fridge is that way.
Weren't the Joads the family from The Grapes of Wrath?
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engineer cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:28:58pm |
30 year mortgages were practically unheard of 40 years ago, because they weren't needed
the average cost of housing has risen 3 to 5 times as fast (depending on location) as average compensation has in this country over the past 30 years, generally speaking
housing prices are out of whack and it's no surprise to me that they are coming down
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:29:25pm |
re: #84 windsagio
that's a pretty remarkable lack of empathy :P
You'll have to take my word for it that such people exist ;)
There's no rule that says anyone deserves empathy.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:29:33pm |
re: #86 windsagio
Reminds me of people blaming the gub'mint for forcing banks to make bad loans >>
Gov = EEEVIL.
Corporations = PARAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:29:48pm |
re: #88 engineer dog
Haha that's an ugly secret too:
We have to have some bad times because we've been forcing the economy to bubble up for decades now >>
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:29:59pm |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
Er... no, I don't know what you mean at all. I've never felt anything was next on my anything. I take life in metered stages, taking care of the necessities first, anything else is gravy, and I don't get overly attached to property or popular culture, sort of live like I want to, when I'm able to, when it's affordable and when I can do it comfortably.
And those that are buying homes that they shouldn't be in, that's not the problem, that's their problem, and I don't feel sorry for them one bit.
No one is holding a gun to anyones head forcing them to purchase shit.
In Soviet Russia, crap buys you...Wait, that doesn't work...In Soviet Russia, you can be forced to buy crap, because...
Someone help me out here?
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:30:14pm |
re: #86 windsagio
Reminds me of people blaming the gub'mint for forcing banks to make bad loans >>
now really, knowing what you know about banks would they have done it on their own?
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:30:30pm |
Speaking of government inefficiency, (*�#@ post office lost a package of mine. First time its happened to me :(
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:30:56pm |
re: #93 brookly red
now really, knowing what you know about banks would they have done it on their own?
If they could divest themselves of the bad risks?
~~~
Abso'freakin'lutely!
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:31:04pm |
re: #90 Varek Raith
Gov = EEEVIL.
Corporations = PARAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
dude can I get some of what your havin?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:31:10pm |
re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist
Weren't the Joads the family from The Grapes of Wrath?
To be honest, I hated that book. But yeah, Tom Joad walking home from prison started the book, I think I remember.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:31:59pm |
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:32:30pm |
re: #90 Varek Raith
Gov = EEEVIL.
Corporations = PARAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Hey, don't forget. Most ground pounders come from wealthy families. It's typical for the rich to raise their children to join the Marines or Army and train for infantry duties.
//
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:32:48pm |
re: #92 EmmmieG
In Soviet Russia, crap buys you...Wait, that doesn't work...In Soviet Russia, you can be forced to buy crap, because...
Someone help me out here?
there is no more Soviet... they saw the light. Did that help?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:32:53pm |
re: #94 windsagio
Speaking of government inefficiency, (*�#@ post office lost a package of mine. First time its happened to me :(
First time? How old are you?
That's actually a pretty good average, really.
I have a great aunt with a temper who had a package to her son living in South America disappear one too many times. She mailed him a package of ex-lax brownies with a note in English saying, "Son, don't eat these."
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:33:44pm |
"Now son. Once you turn 18 I don't want you going to Harvard and eventually taking over this diamond mine. I want you to join the Army and become a foot soldier."
//
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:34:01pm |
re: #99 Gus 802
Hey, don't forget. Most ground pounders come from wealthy families. It's typical for the rich to raise their children to join the Marines or Army and train for infantry duties.
//
/John Kerry was in VietNam you know...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:35:07pm |
re: #93 brookly red
having worked in the mortgage industry and seeing first hand how the mortgage companies and several banks were able to give a loan then turn around and sell it off at a profit 90 days later yes they would do it on their own. They did do it on their own and greed was the overriding factor. Lack of regulation and little oversight of the secondary market for securitized loans was the big issue.
When Joe Smith walked in off the street they didn't care how much he made they had a loan for him (Alt-A and subprime specifically) and even if he read the fine print they told him it was ok, he could refi down the road. What they didn't tell him was that after 90 days they could (and did) sell that loan along with other loans as "investments" on wall st.
Easy money for the mortgage company and no need to worry about holding junk loans once they were sold.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:35:09pm |
re: #100 brookly red
there is no more Soviet... they saw the light. Did that help?
I got most of the way through Autopsy on an Empire. (Look, it's a really long book, okay?)
I had not realized the extent to which Nationalism (or regionalism, or whatever you call it) fractured the Soviets.
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:35:26pm |
re: #101 EmmmieG
First time? How old are you?
That's actually a pretty good average, really.
I have a great aunt with a temper who had a package to her son living in South America disappear one too many times. She mailed him a package of ex-lax brownies with a note in English saying, "Son, don't eat these."
I get packages all the time, this is the first time they've screwed it up. I'm naive enough to think that it'll show up >>
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:36:01pm |
re: #75 HoosierHoops
O'Donnell told me were a good witch so I'm going with that..
/
You just put me over 28000 Karma! Thanks! Birthday present from the Lizards..
* pulls out notes from coat*
I'd like to thank the academy for recognizing true talent when they see it..And my Manager..And press agent..And the agency of Gold, Gold and Silver..My Lawyer, Director and of course my Producer whom I wouldn't be here with out.. I love you man! Am I leaving anyone out?
Mmmmm.. Oh yea...I'd also like to thank Mel Gibson's ex-girlfriend..
You know what I'm saying Mel...
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:36:22pm |
re: #103 brookly red
/John Kerry was in VietNam you know...
The statistics for the number of people in Congress during Vietnam who had sons or grandsons serving are rather interesting.
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:36:23pm |
re: #103 brookly red
/John Kerry was in VietNam you know...
I suppose. But he wasn't a ground pounder. Plus his folks were upper middle class. His aunt was rich.
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Varek Raith Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:36:37pm |
re: #106 windsagio
I get packages all the time, this is the first time they've screwed it up. I'm naive enough to think that it'll show up >>
Stay the hell away from FedEx!
I've had so many issues with them.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:36:38pm |
re: #104 Dreggas
having worked in the mortgage industry and seeing first hand how the mortgage companies and several banks were able to give a loan then turn around and sell it off at a profit 90 days later yes they would do it on their own. They did do it on their own and greed was the overriding factor. Lack of regulation and little oversight of the secondary market for securitized loans was the big issue.
When Joe Smith walked in off the street they didn't care how much he made they had a loan for him (Alt-A and subprime specifically) and even if he read the fine print they told him it was ok, he could refi down the road. What they didn't tell him was that after 90 days they could (and did) sell that loan along with other loans as "investments" on wall st.
Easy money for the mortgage company and no need to worry about holding junk loans once they were sold.
OK cool... who did they sell the bad loans to if I may ask?
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windsagio Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:37:27pm |
re: #110 Varek Raith
Stay the hell away from FedEx!
I've had so many issues with them.
FedEx Ground used to be RPS.
... I worked for RPS for a while in college, for God's sake, don't send via them!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:40:17pm |
re: #105 EmmmieG
And by regionalism, I mean the Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, etc wanting out.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:41:25pm |
re: #111 brookly red
More often than not the bad loans were "seasoned" with other good loans (something to cover the stink). They were purchased on wall st by investment banks and other agencies that used them to add to portfolios for pension and retirement funds, a lot of city pension and retirement plans took a big hit when these went down. Of course there was the insuring of these packages by groups like AIG, they were bought by others like Lehman bros., washington Mutual was a big player and of course there was countrywide. These things were like a disease infecting everything they came into contact with and like I said, the mortgage companies didn't care because once they sold the loans they made their money.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:41:54pm |
re: #113 EmmmieG
And by regionalism, I mean the Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, etc wanting out.
yeah... I guess an abusive central government can do that to you.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:43:53pm |
re: #106 windsagio
I get packages all the time, this is the first time they've screwed it up. I'm naive enough to think that it'll show up >>
I love the US Post Office. About 5 years ago, my meteorite contact Abdullah, in Morocco, passed along a 250 dollar payment to one of his Bedouin meteorite dealers. I western union the money to Morocco, and expected to see a 3 pound package in about 2 months.
Six months later, a post office in upstate new york called me and asked me if I was expecting a package from Morocco. It seems that this Bedouin was a little lacking on writing English, or even an international address correctly, so all he did was put my name, phone number and USA on the package.
How it got to upstate new york, or how it even got through any postal system was amazing. And the numbers in my phone number was written in that typical european style, with crossed stemmed sevens and zig-zagged fours and one that looked like a fish hook... so it too the post office in upstate new york a few tries to even dial the phone number correctly.
That's customer service.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:44:15pm |
Totally random note:
If you go to pandora.com, and start with Patty Griffin, you will get Patty Griffin, a few other easy-to-guess names (David Gray, Nickel Creek), and a large number of whiny folk-singers.
Just reminds you that not everyone can be a Patty Griffin.
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engineer cat Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:45:25pm |
re: #114 Dreggas
More often than not the bad loans were "seasoned" with other good loans (something to cover the stink). They were purchased on wall st by investment banks and other agencies that used them to add to portfolios for pension and retirement funds, a lot of city pension and retirement plans took a big hit when these went down. Of course there was the insuring of these packages by groups like AIG, they were bought by others like Lehman bros., washington Mutual was a big player and of course there was countrywide. These things were like a disease infecting everything they came into contact with and like I said, the mortgage companies didn't care because once they sold the loans they made their money.
there seems to have been some value to society in these 'securitized mortgages' in that the banks, having freed themselves of the risk and investment in the bad mortgages, were able to re-use the money to make more loans
(hence it is a mistake to think that banks were necessarily 'forced' to make bad loans when it seems it had become so easy to pass them on)
however, the people in the brokerage houses who snapped up these packages of securitized mortgages didn't seem to notice - as my wife had been telling me for years - that houses were way overpriced and that the market was overdue for a "correction"
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:46:08pm |
re: #116 Walter L. Newton
I love the US Post Office. About 5 years ago, my meteorite contact Abdullah, in Morocco, passed along a 250 dollar payment to one of his Bedouin meteorite dealers. I western union the money to Morocco, and expected to see a 3 pound package in about 2 months.
Six months later, a post office in upstate new york called me and asked me if I was expecting a package from Morocco. It seems that this Bedouin was a little lacking on writing English, or even an international address correctly, so all he did was put my name, phone number and USA on the package.
How it got to upstate new york, or how it even got through any postal system was amazing. And the numbers in my phone number was written in that typical european style, with crossed stemmed sevens and zig-zagged fours and one that looked like a fish hook... so it too the post office in upstate new york a few tries to even dial the phone number correctly.
That's customer service.
wow you are a trusting guy... if the post offices calls me I move & change my name.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:48:00pm |
re: #119 brookly red
wow you are a trusting guy... if the post offices calls me I move & change my name.
It's the post office. What were you thinking they were going to do? Send you back to where you came from postage due?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:48:10pm |
re: #76 Obdicut
Yep. To me it's about people not being wasted. About people being able to achieve up to their potential. About people not being stuck as ditchdiggers if they could be brilliant architects-- and about ditchdiggers being respected as doing honest work and not deserving of scorn because their job pays less than other jobs.
You have to be able to operate a bulldozer in order to dig ditches, and it's a protected union job.
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:49:43pm |
re: #120 EmmmieG
It's the post office. What were you thinking they were going to do? Send you back to where you came from postage due?
Oh yeah right like I am gonna walk in and claim THAT package... Attica is full of jerks that did that.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:49:53pm |
re: #92 EmmmieG
In Soviet Russia, crap buys you...Wait, that doesn't work...In Soviet Russia, you can be forced to buy crap, because...
Someone help me out here?
Because everything is crap.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:51:20pm |
re: #122 brookly red
Oh yeah right like I am gonna walk in and claim THAT package... Attica is full of jerks that did that.
Most of them made at least one mistake prior to going to get the package.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:51:31pm |
re: #123 Alouette
Hey... did you get my email message today?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:51:37pm |
For O'Donnell (And So Many Republicans) It's Sean Hannity To The Rescue
Tonight at 9 p.m., Christine O'Donnell will become the latest controversial Republican nominee to launder her past in an interview with Sean Hannity. Like Sharron Angle, Rand Paul and Sarah Palin -- just to name three -- before her, Delaware's Republican nominee for Senate will dodge the mainstream media spotlight in the midst of uncomfortable questions and make a beeline for the Cheers of primetime cable news, the show where everyone knows your name and they're always glad you came (if you're a conservative Republican, that is.)
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:51:42pm |
re: #121 Alouette
You have to be able to operate a bulldozer in order to dig ditches, and it's a protected union job.
OK # VC12576 step up and claim your shovel...
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:51:52pm |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:52:16pm |
re: #118 engineer dog
Oh no doubt about it on the pricing side. I saw homes go up that started at $700k go up to $900k in the span of a month. Pricing was ridiculous. Lots of people also want to go after fannie and Freddie for these loans as well, but the reality was Fannie and Freddie were bound by law to not insure/do a loan for more than 450k (I believe that was the number). As soon as home prices were over that you couldn't get a FHA/Fannie/Freddie backed mortgage, you had to go through these alternate lenders which were doing the "exotic" jumbo loans, Option Arms, Sub-prime and Alt-A type products. When shit started hitting the fan Fannie/Freddie was forced to step in and buy up these bad loans even though they were not supposed to have them in the first place.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:52:21pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:54:15pm |
re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist
Most of them made at least one mistake prior to going to get the package.
yeah, and that mistake was listening to someone else...
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Gus Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:55:12pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
For O'Donnell (And So Many Republicans) It's Sean Hannity To The Rescue
I'm sure it will be a hard hitting and insightful interview appearance.
//
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:56:16pm |
re: #131 brookly red
yeah, and that mistake was listening to someone else...
What the hell is all this talk about packages, the post office and Attica? What am I missing?
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:56:54pm |
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brookly red Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:57:06pm |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
What the hell is all this talk about packages, the post office and Attica? What am I missing?
what are you a cop or something?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:58:33pm |
re: #135 brookly red
what are you a cop or something?
Ah... ah... nope... jus a lttle joke... hey Vinnie... right? Tell em it was jus a little joke.
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Stanghazi Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:58:48pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 21, 2010 4:58:50pm |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
What the hell is all this talk about packages, the post office and Attica? What am I missing?
I THINK what brookly is talking about is an old law enforcement trick of calling someone to pick up a package that has to be signed for, or telling them they won some cash prize, in order to make an arrest.
I could be mistaken.
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prairiefire Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:04:52pm |
re: #137 Stanley Sea
Hi, Stanley, thanks for the Birthday wishes. Today is Hoopster's day.
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rwdflynavy Tue, Sep 21, 2010 6:06:30pm |
Speaking of NASA and the Onion....
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Sep 21, 2010 7:03:48pm |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
Er... no, I don't know what you mean at all. I've never felt anything was next on my anything. I take life in metered stages, taking care of the necessities first, anything else is gravy, and I don't get overly attached to property or popular culture, sort of live like I want to, when I'm able to, when it's affordable and when I can do it comfortably.
And those that are buying homes that they shouldn't be in, that's not the problem, that's their problem, and I don't feel sorry for them one bit.
No one is holding a gun to anyones head forcing them to purchase shit.
They're not holding a gun, but they were lying constantly about the terms of loans, because the guy selling you the loan got paid regardless of the borrower's ability to repay, real Glengarry Glen Ross stuff
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