1 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:15:35pm

So what if he went to church? He did not PROCLAIM!!!

2 garhighway  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:16:28pm

That’s OK: this is justified because MSNBC exists.

/

3 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:17:39pm

Christians should be deeply troubled by Earth Day?

4 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:17:51pm

With this minute stories about it it must be true! Get out of denial guys:(

5 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:19:03pm

A Bruce Tomaso notes at Dallas News, not only are there no official Presidential Proclamations for Easter since at least 1980, there don’t appear to be any official proclamations for Muslim holidays either.

7 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:19:42pm

“what’s REALLY going on here!”…..what an asshole
I’m becoming hostile again

8 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:22:08pm

re: #5 Charles

A Bruce Tomaso notes at Dallas News, not only are there no official Presidential Proclamations for Easter since at least 1980, there don’t appear to be any official proclamations for Muslim holidays either.

Pfft. As if that matters. There’s a black man in the White House, and he might be a Seekrit Mooslim Kenyan. Eleventy!!!11!!

9 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:22:21pm

re: #6 Gus 802

Some of my related links:

• BREAKING NEWS: George W. Bush Never Issued Easter Proclamation
• BREAKING NEWS: Ronald Reagan Never Issued Easter Proclamation

Messages from Obama:

• Easter Prayer Breakfast
• Message from the President regarding Passover (PDF)
• Weekly Address: Passover & Easter

Oops. Charles. Can you do me a favor and replace the link for “Message from the President regarding Passover (PDF)” with this link?

10 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:22:27pm

re: #6 Gus 802

Some of my related links:

• BREAKING NEWS: George W. Bush Never Issued Easter Proclamation
• BREAKING NEWS: Ronald Reagan Never Issued Easter Proclamation

Messages from Obama:

• Easter Prayer Breakfast
• Message from the President regarding Passover (PDF)
• Weekly Address: Passover & Easter

You just had to make sense, didn’t you? You just can’t help yourself, can you?
//

Good pages.

11 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:22:49pm

re: #6 Gus 802

Some of my related links:

• BREAKING NEWS: George W. Bush Never Issued Easter Proclamation
• BREAKING NEWS: Ronald Reagan Never Issued Easter Proclamation

Messages from Obama:

• Easter Prayer Breakfast
• Message from the President regarding Passover (PDF)
• Weekly Address: Passover & Easter

Bush didn’t do it!
Reagan didn’t do it!
good grief, where will it end….the point is not what others did or didn’t do

12 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:22:56pm

Why does Fox News hate Easter?

13 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:23:31pm

re: #11 albusteve

Bush didn’t do it!
Reagan didn’t do it!
good grief, where will it end…the point is not what others did or didn’t do

Don’t look at me. They’re the ones saying “FOR THE FIRST TIME, OBAMA…”

14 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:24:02pm

The “Wingnut Fail” series is almost as much fun as the “Heads Explode” series of two years ago.

15 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:24:16pm

I heard Bill Ayers attended the Seder.

//

16 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:24:24pm

Obama is recognizing the fact that we have to deal with one billion Muslims on the world on an even footing. That scares a lot of people for various reasons:

It scares creeping Shariahphobics who are convinced that we are their next target after Western Europe.

It annoys those who think that we can just send Donald Trump to tell OPEC to lower prices “or else some your oil wells might get broken”.

It reminds a lot of people just how dependent we are on the energy resouces found in the Muslim world and how their politics influence us, sometimes in direct and unpleasant ways.

17 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:25:09pm

re: #10 researchok

You just had to make sense, didn’t you? You just can’t help yourself, can you?
//

Good pages.

Tanks. Tried to make them humorous but it’s still factual. That why I added the note at the very top of each.

18 garhighway  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:25:29pm

re: #15 researchok

I heard Bill Ayers attended the Seder.

//

And ghost-wrote BHO’s remarks.

19 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:26:29pm

re: #13 Gus 802

Don’t look at me. They’re the ones saying “FOR THE FIRST TIME, OBAMA…”

so what?…are you surprised?
same shit, different day

20 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:27:06pm

Bill Ayers wrote Obama’s Easter Proclamation.

21 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:27:29pm

re: #17 Gus 802

Tanks. Tried to make them humorous but it’s still factual. That why I added the note at the very top of each.

Leave it to the hard wingers to turn stupid and failure into an actual 24/7 industry.

The BusHitler contingent have nothing on these morons.

22 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:27:39pm

re: #19 albusteve

so what?…are you surprised?
same shit, different day

I have no idea where you’re going with this but a) you’re also allowed to express you opinion on this and b) feel free to make your own LGF page.

Thanks.

23 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:27:48pm

re: #20 Conservative Moonbat

Bill Ayers wrote Obama’s Easter Proclamation.

He was also wearing the bunny suit at the White House Easter Egg roll. ZOMG!

///

24 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:28:46pm

Pat Buchanan is such a racist piece of shit. I can’t believe he keeps getting on national TV.

25 garhighway  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:28:54pm

re: #23 Lidane

He was also wearing the bunny suit at the White House Easter Egg roll. ZOMG!

///

And he laid the eggs.

26 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:29:29pm

re: #22 Gus 802

I have no idea where you’re going with this but a) you’re also allowed to express you opinion on this and b) feel free to make your own LGF page.

Thanks.

what’s to express?
it’s totally irrelevant to anything, unless you play the same game they nutters do….you might become just like them with your everyday rage against the rage…that’s my opinion

27 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:29:54pm

re: #21 researchok

The BusHitler contingent have nothing on these morons.

That’s because the Bush/Hitler morans didn’t have the discipline to create a unified meme, AND they also had the Democrats slapping them down hard at every chance.

28 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:30:28pm

What bothers me most is how these freakazoids believe they speak for all conservatives when in fact they don’t even come close.

29 avanti  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:30:32pm

It’s easy to understand the hate on the right. If you just get your news from Fox, right wing radio, and wingnut blogs, you’re bound to be confused. I get the lack of honesty on the blogs and the radio, but we would hope a news show would be a tad more factual on occasion and point out the obvious or at least have one talking head that does not have his ass stuck in a echo chamber.
There are plenty of valid criticisms they could exploit without making shit up.

30 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:30:51pm

re: #24 Charles

Pat Buchanan is such a racist piece of shit. I can’t believe he keeps getting on national TV.

I can’t believe he has any legitimacy after two failed campaigns for POTUS, but Crazy Uncle Pat is the gift that keeps on giving, I guess.

31 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:30:56pm

re: #22 Gus 802

he’s trying to get your goat man >

32 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:31:16pm

re: #26 albusteve

what’s to express?
it’s totally irrelevant to anything, unless you play the same game they nutters do…you might become just like them with your everyday rage against the rage…that’s my opinion

You’re confusing laughing hysterically for rage.

33 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:32:29pm

re: #27 Lidane

That’s because the Bush/Hitler morans didn’t have the discipline to create a unified meme, AND they also had the Democrats slapping them down hard at every chance.

Some truth tio that, but recall when Dick Durbin uttered his moronic Gitmo/Nazi analogy and then didn’t apologize right away, lots on the left were strangely quiet.

In any event, the whackos on the right now outdo the lot that preceded them

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:33:08pm

re: #29 avanti

There are plenty of valid criticisms they could exploit without making shit up.

The “moderates” nowadays are the ones who come out and say “I don’t believe that Obama is a Kenyan-born secret Muslim Secularist Marxist reincarnation of Hitler but I have no problem with people who openly espouse the opinion that he is.”

35 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:33:58pm

re: #28 researchok

What bothers me most is how these freakazoids believe they speak for all conservatives when in fact they don’t even come close.

I am an army of one…I don’t trust any politician who relies on muscle and deceit to get re-elected….that includes the left as well

36 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:34:22pm

re: #28 researchok

What bothers me most is how these freakazoids believe they speak for all conservatives when in fact they don’t even come close.

Thank you.

37 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:34:22pm

re: #24 Charles

Pat Buchanan is such a racist piece of shit. I can’t believe he keeps getting on national TV.

I want him on TV. He’s telling the truth about a certain attitude that is still very widespread and deep in this country. His attitude and Trump’s are representative of the GOP base. I want them out there talking and being truthful and I want decent Republicans to be forced to think about who they are in bed with because I think they avoid doing it most of the time.

38 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:34:32pm

re: #31 windsagio

he’s trying to get your goat man >

Gus is not that stupid….he knows me

39 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:35:17pm

re: #35 albusteve

I am an army of one…I don’t trust any politician who relies on muscle and deceit to get re-elected…that includes the left as well

Speaking of deceit …

40 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:35:54pm

re: #38 albusteve

Gus is not that stupid…he knows me

Hey! Not THAT stupid?

:P

//

41 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:36:14pm

re: #36 reine.de.tout

Thank you.

Your welcome.

I know how you feel-day and day out.

42 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:36:57pm

re: #39 reine.de.tout

Speaking of deceit …

you already described the VooDoo Kid well enough earlier….he’s a gonner

43 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:37:07pm

re: #37 moderatelyradicalliberal

I want him on TV. He’s telling the truth about a certain attitude that is still very widespread and deep in this country. His attitude and Trump’s are representative of the GOP base. I want them out there talking and being truthful and I want decent Republicans to be forced to think about who they are in bed with because I think they avoid doing it most of the time.

Not necessarily.

We don’t like what we see in the R party right now.
It doesn’t mean, though, that we are any more comfortable with the policies of the Dems than we used to be.

We are lost.

44 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:37:19pm

re: #28 researchok

What bothers me most is how these freakazoids believe they speak for all conservatives when in fact they don’t even come close.

Who said anything about people who self identify as conservatives? They are speaking for a majority of people who call themselves Republicans. This crap is mainstream among Republicans.

45 freetoken  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:37:29pm

OT, but there is a high risk of severe storms from NE Texas to the Nashville TN area:
spc.noaa.gov
and tornadoes are likely in the general area they were yesterday:
Image: day1probotlk_2000_torn.gif

46 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:37:36pm

re: #42 albusteve

you already described the VooDoo Kid well enough earlier…he’s a gonner

I’m just so very very disgusted with him.

47 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:37:47pm

re: #39 reine.de.tout

Speaking of deceit …

This guy is the right’s Kucinich.

48 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:39:24pm

re: #46 reine.de.tout

I’m just so very very disgusted with him.

His mother loves him.

Maybe

49 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:39:28pm

re: #24 Charles

Pat Buchanan is such a racist piece of shit. I can’t believe he keeps getting on national TV.

I was just watching him on Hardball.

Is it me, or did Cranky Uncle Pat go full metal ‘nirther on us??!

50 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:40:17pm

re: #27 Lidane

That’s because the Bush/Hitler morans didn’t have the discipline to create a unified meme, AND they also had the Democrats slapping them down hard at every chance.

Not to mention they never had a national 24 hour a day propaganda network.

51 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:40:28pm

re: #45 freetoken

OT, but there is a high risk of severe storms from NE Texas to the Nashville TN area:
[Link: www.spc.noaa.gov…]
and tornadoes are likely in the general area they were yesterday:
Image: day1probotlk_2000_torn.gif

We’re just starting to get weather here in NC.

52 garhighway  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:41:21pm

re: #50 celticdragon

Not to mention they never had a national 24 hour a day propaganda network.

Or giant sacks of cash from the Kochs.

53 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:41:52pm

re: #51 researchok

We’re just starting to get weather here in NC.

Some storms coming into Greensboro right now. We live just next to downtown in the Fisher Park area.

54 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:42:09pm

re: #43 reine.de.tout

We don’t like what we see in the R party right now.
It doesn’t mean, though, that we are any more comfortable with the policies of the Dems than we used to be.

We are lost.

From what I’m seeing - speaking as a tree huggin’ liberal - the Dems are no more the party of the past than the Reps. The Democratic party today is my parents’ Republican party of yesterday. It seems to me that, except for the name, real conservatives DO indeed have a party they should feel comfy with and that is the current Democratic party. It’s us DFH types who are lost.

Just a thought.

55 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:42:45pm

re: #43 reine.de.tout

Not necessarily.

We don’t like what we see in the R party right now.
It doesn’t mean, though, that we are any more comfortable with the policies of the Dems than we used to be.

We are lost.

Whoever wins the GOP nomination will get 45% of the vote minimum no matter what so I think you may be in a minority. I’m not saying you should be Democrats, but what’s happening on the right won’t be changed by anybody outside of the right either. Whether you like it or not, the GOP getting better depends on you and people like you. Of you keep leaving they will keep cranking up the crazy to attract whatever dwindling, but ardent support they have. I’m a liberal so none of these people are going to listen to me. They may listen to you.

56 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:44:09pm

re: #48 researchok

His mother loves him.

Maybe

Heh.
I’m sure she does.
She’s also a state employee.
Boy, would I love to be a fly on the wall at that house …

57 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:44:26pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think it is really up to the leadership. They need to stop relying on ‘Southern Strategy’ style manipulations and get more into governance before anything will change.

58 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:44:33pm

re: #53 celticdragon

Some storms coming into Greensboro right now. We live just next to downtown in the Fisher Park area.

Overcast now here in Raleigh, getting darker and rain/storms starting tonight.

59 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:45:34pm

re: #56 reine.de.tout

Heh.
I’m sure she does.
She’s also a state employee.
Boy, would I love to be a fly on the wall at that house …

Don’t get me started,

I could run with that….

60 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:45:57pm

I tell you what. The stupidity I’ve seen today on Twitter really has me wondering about the future of this country. I feel like I’m in some kind of time warp where so called adults are using their computers only to act like 12 year olds.

61 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:46:09pm

re: #58 researchok

Overcast now here in Raleigh, getting darker and rain/storms starting tonight.

We got what appeared to be almost a sprinkle here in Houston earlier. Scared the crap outa me seeing water kinda fall from the sky. What the hell izzat?!!

62 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:46:15pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

Whoever wins the GOP nomination will get 45% of the vote minimum no matter what so I think you may be in a minority. I’m not saying you should be Democrats, but what’s happening on the right won’t be changed by anybody outside of the right either. Whether you like it or not, the GOP getting better depends on you and people like you. Of you keep leaving they will keep cranking up the crazy to attract whatever dwindling, but ardent support they have. I’m a liberal so none of these people are going to listen to me. They may listen to you.

I’ve made a few inroads with a few people - who may then reach a few more, and so on. Slow process. I don’t have the position or place in civic society to do much more than that. And organize a protest rally. I’ve been desperately contacting people all day about this damned insurance thing …nobody but me seems to be moved enough to think some action needs to be taken -

63 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:46:18pm

re: #58 researchok

Overcast now here in Raleigh, getting darker and rain/storms starting tonight.

lucky you…it barely ever rains where I am and when it does, people stand in it with a big smile

64 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:46:35pm

re: #54 allegro

From what I’m seeing - speaking as a tree huggin’ liberal - the Dems are no more the party of the past than the Reps. The Democratic party today is my parents’ Republican party of yesterday. It seems to me that, except for the name, real conservatives DO indeed have a party they should feel comfy with and that is the current Democratic party. It’s us DFH types who are lost.

Just a thought.

I think this is a result of the Democrats and the GOP trading voters over the last three decades. I’d say the Democrats overall got the better deal long term.

65 Achilles Tang  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:46:53pm

re: #57 windsagio

I think it is really up to the leadership. They need to stop relying on ‘Southern Strategy’ style manipulations and get more into governance before anything will change.

Who is “they”? Which, leadership or votes, comes first?

66 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:47:42pm

re: #61 allegro

We got what appeared to be almost a sprinkle here in Houston earlier. Scared the crap outa me seeing water kinda fall from the sky. What the hell izzat?!!

Man, you guys got nailed last year with hurricane in Corpus Christi…

When you get hit, you get slammed.

67 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:48:28pm

re: #60 Gus 802

I tell you what. The stupidity I’ve seen today on Twitter really has me wondering about the future of this country. I feel like I’m in some kind of time warp where so called adults are using their computers only to act like 12 year olds.

Do you use Tweetdeck yet? You should try it. The Global Filter makes Twitter much more enjoyable. Just add usernames to the filter and you’ll never see their sub-moronic chatter again.

68 freetoken  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:48:30pm

The crown prince of wingnuttia, in action in Iowa:

Ron Paul announces 2012 presidential step in Iowa

R

epublican Ron Paul says he’s forming a campaign exploratory committee as he moves closer to again seeking the Republican nomination for president.

The Texas congressman made his announcement Tuesday in Iowa, which will hold the nation’s first presidential caucuses in February.

Paul told a small audience at an airport hotel in Des Moines that he was eager to promote his views about the need to reduce the size and scope of government.

[…]

69 Kragar  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:48:31pm

Sometimes, the only rebuttal needed is “Do you guys actually realize how full of shit you are?”

70 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:48:35pm

re: #63 albusteve

lucky you…it barely ever rains where I am and when it does, people stand in it with a big smile

We had our share last week with tornadoes.

Too much of a good thing.

71 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:49:01pm

re: #62 reine.de.tout

I’ve made a few inroads with a few people - who may then reach a few more, and so on. Slow process. I don’t have the position or place in civic society to do much more than that. And organize a protest rally. I’ve been desperately contacting people all day about this damned insurance thing …nobody but me seems to be moved enough to think some action needs to be taken -

I’m sure it’s difficult. I was just thinking about a former classmate who shared your frustration, but thought it better to fight from the inside than from without, because unless you have actually shifted to the left, voting for Democrats won’t be a solution. At least not long term.

72 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:50:34pm

re: #66 researchok

Man, you guys got nailed last year with hurricane in Corpus Christi…

When you get hit, you get slammed.

Some truth to that. We tend get a year’s worth of rainfall in a day, thus all the flood control measures (that DO work BTW). We didn’t get hit with the Corpus hurricane but I’m still traumatized by Ike from 2008. I do NOT want to go through that again.

73 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:51:00pm

re: #70 researchok

We had our share last week with tornadoes.

Too much of a good thing.

yes, I was speaking across a hundred years….the southwest gets drier every year….there will be a crisis soon enough, and people will say “golly, how’d that happen?”

74 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:51:23pm

re: #60 Gus 802

I tell you what. The stupidity I’ve seen today on Twitter really has me wondering about the future of this country. I feel like I’m in some kind of time warp where so called adults are using their computers only to act like 12 year olds.


There is a very low level to the 24/7 twitter/news cycle. But fortunately, America’s behavior seems to straighen out a bit every two years when it comes to electing its political representatives.

And despite the gains made by the connservatives in 2010, I was pleased to see that voters had enough sense to reject some of the most dangerously batshit crazy nominees.

75 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:52:02pm

re: #65 Naso Tang

I think unfortunately the leadership comes first.

The votes won’t matter unless the birther/paul/fundie elements break themselves off. They’re too motivated/powerful a coalition.

76 Gus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:52:27pm

re: #67 Charles

Do you use Tweetdeck yet? You should try it. The Global Filter makes Twitter much more enjoyable. Just add usernames to the filter and you’ll never see their sub-moronic chatter again.

Yeah. Looks like I have no choice now. I’ve got two active impostors going now. They’re insane. Twitter won’t do anything. The one guy has Tweeted 60 times in the past 18 hours.

77 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:52:29pm

re: #70 researchok

We had our share last week with tornadoes.

Too much of a good thing.

We have 40 mph winds, but they all go straight, never ‘round and ‘round. All frickin’ day, though, with 60 mph gusts. Been like this for a week, supposed to calm down a bit tomorrow. Then maybe I can go up on the roof and clean my swamp cooler.

78 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:52:51pm

Bad news for wingnuts: Stocks climb to 3-year highs on earnings boost

79 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:52:51pm

re: #73 albusteve

It’s actually pretty tragic.

And there doesn’t seem to be any solution other than ‘fewer people living in the desert’.

80 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:53:25pm

re: #73 albusteve

yes, I was speaking across a hundred years…the southwest gets drier every year…there will be a crisis soon enough, and people will say “golly, how’d that happen?”

Climate change.

And it won’t get better.

81 garhighway  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:53:39pm

re: #79 windsagio

It’s actually pretty tragic.

And there doesn’t seem to be any solution other than ‘fewer people living in the desert’.

That’s the Sam Kinison Plan.

82 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:53:43pm

re: #75 windsagio

I think unfortunately the leadership comes first.

The votes won’t matter unless the birther/paul/fundie elements break themselves off. They’re too motivated/powerful a coalition.

they are just getting started….you’re dreaming, not gonna happen for years

83 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:54:33pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

We have 40 mph winds, but they all go straight, never ‘round and ‘round. All frickin’ day, though, with 60 mph gusts. Been like this for a week, supposed to calm down a bit tomorrow. Then maybe I can go up on the roof and clean my swamp cooler.

it’s just awful down here in ABQ….blowing like an SOB

84 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:54:59pm

no BBQ in ABQ today?

85 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:55:06pm

re: #81 garhighway

That’s the Sam Kinison Plan.

Go where the food is!

(one of the funnies bits I have ever seen)

86 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:55:29pm

re: #82 albusteve

God, don’t remind me.

It’s what it would take to regenerate the GOP tho’. A good statement of will and principle from the top. (an’ good luck with that from any party :p)

Na, I think they’ll keep going down the rabbit hole.

87 BishopX  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:55:36pm

re: #62 reine.de.tout

I know it’s not generally your scene, but have you tried MoveOn or contacting either your local AFSCME or AFL-CIO political coordinator?

88 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:55:53pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

We have 40 mph winds, but they all go straight, never ‘round and ‘round. All frickin’ day, though, with 60 mph gusts. Been like this for a week, supposed to calm down a bit tomorrow. Then maybe I can go up on the roof and clean my swamp cooler.

It’s been one tough spring all around.

Crazy weather, floods, broken levees,etc,

With climate change and lack of infrastructure repair spending, things will only get worse, I’m afraid.

89 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:56:13pm

re: #84 ralphieboy

no BBQ in ABQ today?

maybe if you chain down the Weber

90 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:56:21pm

re: #83 albusteve

it’s just awful down here in ABQ…blowing like an SOB

All that stuff in the air—at least I’m not allergic to anything currently pollinating. The dust is pretty incredible. There would be more if everything that’s loose hadn’t already been blown away.

91 Amory Blaine  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:56:43pm

Hmm Proclamation for rising from the dead?

92 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:57:19pm

re: #35 albusteve

I am an army of one…I don’t trust any politician who relies on muscle and deceit to get re-elected…that includes the left as well

Here we go with the false equivalence.

re: #43 reine.de.tout

Not necessarily.

We don’t like what we see in the R party right now.
It doesn’t mean, though, that we are any more comfortable with the policies of the Dems than we used to be.

We are lost.

I’m going to need specifics. Which Democratic policies are you referring to?

93 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:57:43pm

re: #86 windsagio

God, don’t remind me.

It’s what it would take to regenerate the GOP tho’. A good statement of will and principle from the top. (an’ good luck with that from any party :p)

Na, I think they’ll keep going down the rabbit hole.

I agree. They are going to have to hit rock bottom before they throw away the bottle (TP and religious right).

94 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:58:35pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

All that stuff in the air—at least I’m not allergic to anything currently pollinating. The dust is pretty incredible. There would be more if everything that’s loose hadn’t already been blown away.

the valley here is brown and I’ve got to keep my place closed up, obviously

95 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 2:59:56pm

re: #91 Amory Blaine

Hmm Proclamation for rising from the dead?

Imagine if he had issued an Easter proclamation, Fox announc “Obama proclaims support for zombie cannibals!”

96 freetoken  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:00:49pm

Quick thought before running off to the gym:

All this whining by the theocratic right over Obama & his supposedly insufficiently Christian bona fides is part of a larger crisis of worldview our culture is undergoing.

Quite frankly, fundamentalism is failing in light of the modern information revolution - note I did not say people are becoming less religious, but with exposure to new types of thinking, cultures, and peoples fundamentalism only can exist as a reactionary force.

What the US is experiencing is a slow boil of what happened more quickly in Europe after WWI, when the destruction brought by the Great War pretty much ended the influence of Christianity in the realm of politics in many European nations.

97 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:00:59pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Here we go with the false equivalence.

re: #43 reine.de.tout

I’m going to need specifics. Which Democratic policies are you referring to?

piss off with you false equivalence shit…if you implicitly trust some pol because he’s a democrat that’s your business…go mind it

98 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:01:41pm

re: #93 researchok

I agree. They are going to have to hit rock bottom before they throw away the bottle (TP and religious right).

I think so, too.

99 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:02:03pm

re: #96 freetoken

Quick thought before running off to the gym:

All this whining by the theocratic right over Obama & his supposedly insufficiently Christian bona fides is part of a larger crisis of worldview our culture is undergoing.

Quite frankly, fundamentalism is failing in light of the modern information revolution - note I did not say people are becoming less religious, but with exposure to new types of thinking, cultures, and peoples fundamentalism only can exist as a reactionary force.

What the US is experiencing is a slow boil of what happened more quickly in Europe after WWI, when the destruction brought by the Great War pretty much ended the influence of Christianity in the realm of politics in many European nations.

Good insight.

Sunshine has that cleansing effect.

100 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:02:31pm

re: #93 researchok

I agree. They are going to have to hit rock bottom before they throw away the bottle (TP and religious right).

These people have demonstrated the ability to hit rock bottom and then just reach for a bigger shovel.

101 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:03:31pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Here we go with the false equivalence.

re: #43 reine.de.tout

I’m going to need specifics. Which Democratic policies are you referring to?

I’m not quite sure why you “need” specifics. I don’t wish to share them with you.

102 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:04:05pm

re: #98 reine.de.tout

I think so, too.

No other way, in my opinion.

You can’t keep poisonous snakes loose in the house and say everything is under control.

103 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:06:06pm

re: #102 researchok

You can’t keep poisonous snakes loose in the house and say everything is under control.

Those snakes have been rattling around inside the house for about 3 decades now and are still reproducing. At what point will the party go “WHOA! There are snakes in the house! Step on ‘em!”

I’ve given up hope. It’s just nuts.

104 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:07:05pm

re: #103 allegro

Those snakes have been rattling around inside the house for about 3 decades now and are still reproducing. At what point will the party go “WHOA! There are snakes in the house! Step on ‘em!”

I’ve given up hope. It’s just nuts.

What hope? You really care if the GOP self destructs, or is that some sort of sham sarcasm?

105 blueraven  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:07:12pm

re: #11 albusteve

Bush didn’t do it!
Reagan didn’t do it!
good grief, where will it end…the point is not what others did or didn’t do

It kind of is the point when that is the point they are making. Obama is different from all the other good Christian presidents!
Look I get your point, but this kind of shit is pervasive on all far right wing media outlets. Fox news has a powerful voice in this country. Somebody has to speak the truth. Somebody has to call them on their lies.

106 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:08:14pm

re: #104 Walter L. Newton

What hope? You really care if the GOP self destructs, or is that some sort of sham sarcasm?

No sarcasm at all.

107 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:09:46pm

why do people worship and protect political parties?…very strange to me

108 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:09:59pm

re: #97 albusteve

piss off with you false equivalence shit…if you implicitly trust some pol because he’s a democrat that’s your business…go mind it

You don’t have any specifics to cite huh? Okay.

re: #101 reine.de.tout

I’m not quite sure why you “need” specifics. I don’t wish to share them with you.

You claimed to disagree with certain policies, but won’t name them. I’m guessing they must sound really weak then, even to you.

109 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:10:20pm

re: #103 allegro

What happens this time is the Snakes kick the people out of the house >>

110 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:10:54pm

re: #107 albusteve

why do people worship and protect political parties?…very strange to me

Tribalism. Pure and simple.

111 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:12:05pm

re: #109 windsagio

What happens this time is the Snakes kick the people out of the house >>


You mean like St. Snake driving all the Patricks out of Ireland?

112 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:12:57pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

You don’t have any specifics to cite huh? Okay.

re: #101 reine.de.tout

You claimed to disagree with certain policies, but won’t name them. I’m guessing they must sound really weak then, even to you.

no, the post does not require specifics…I don’t trust liars, what don’t you get about that?

113 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:13:43pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

You don’t have any specifics to cite huh? Okay.

re: #101 reine.de.tout

You claimed to disagree with certain policies, but won’t name them. I’m guessing they must sound really weak then, even to you.

Whatever.
I’ve seen the type of “conversation” you like to have with people.
Pin them down, then attack (they must sound weak, even to you!).
LOL. The start calling names and making ugly comments, rather than actually engage in a discussion. I don’t care to get into that sort of exchange with you, it’s not worth my time.

114 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:14:07pm

re: #107 albusteve

why do people worship and protect political parties?…very strange to me

Wanting people to back up their rhetoric isn’t “worshiping” a political party. It’s simply asking that they do what they apparently can not or will not, give evidence for an unsupported raw assertion.

115 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:14:13pm

re: #107 albusteve

Its easy, also they represent reasonable guidelines of what to expect from a candidate. All too good really as guidelines go.

116 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:14:23pm

re: #110 wozzablog

Tribalism. Pure and simple.

AmIdol politics…celebrity worship extended into the govt

117 mikey706  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:14:53pm

I’m going to fucking vomit.

118 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:15:24pm

re: #117 mikey706

I’m going to fucking vomit.

Let me move my bag…………..

119 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:15:35pm

re: #116 albusteve

AmIdol politics…celebrity worship extended into the govt


America has long since turned into a bad reality show in which the distinction between reality and scripted plot is blurred so as to be indistinguishable.

120 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:15:48pm

re: #116 albusteve

AmIdol politics…celebrity worship extended into the govt

“I’m With Ike”

121 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:15:51pm

re: #117 mikey706

I’m going to fucking vomit.

Not on the carpet, please.

122 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:16:08pm

re: #121 researchok

Not on the carpet, please.

Or in my car.

123 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:17:16pm

re: #120 wozzablog

“I’m With Ike”

Ike was a leader, Trump is a real estate broker….that’s where we have come to

124 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:18:04pm

re: #110 wozzablog

Tribalism. Pure and simple.

Yup, we need to belong, no matter what we have to put up with.

The group has a lot of power over the individual (conferring identity).

125 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:18:07pm

re: #120 wozzablog

“I Like Ike”

Dang it.

126 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:18:52pm

re: #123 albusteve

Ike was a leader, Trump is a real estate broker…that’s where we have come to

It’s always been slogans and cheap shots, but the level of idiocy these days is something special.

127 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:20:14pm

re: #126 wozzablog

It’s always been slogans and cheap shots, but the level of idiocy these days is something special.

The media and information age has increased that idiocy exponentially. Mostly more people become idiots and communicate that fact faster and farther.

128 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:21:00pm

re: #124 researchok

Yup, we need to belong, no matter what we have to put up with.

The group has a lot of power over the individual (conferring identity).

This is the large thing I hate about party politics - you just can not be a “Liberal” republican these days, and it’s very difficult to be a “Conservative” democrat - despite the fact that you need a broad church in a party to win an election.

129 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:21:53pm

re: #127 allegro

The media and information age has increased that idiocy exponentially. Mostly more people become idiots and communicate that fact faster and farther.

The internet is faster than a telegram and printing press, that’s for sure.

130 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:23:40pm

re: #110 wozzablog

Tribalism. Pure and simple.

Antibiotic resistant bacteria and tribal human brains.

Thanks a lot evolution. :(

131 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:23:48pm

re: #128 wozzablog

This is the large thing I hate about party politics - you just can not be a “Liberal” republican these days, and it’s very difficult to be a “Conservative” democrat - despite the fact that you need a broad church in a party to win an election.

Exactly.

That’s why politics today are considered distasteful across the spectrum.

What the people want from their politicians (effective government that benefits all) isn’t what they are getting.

132 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:23:56pm

re: #128 wozzablog

its actually easy to be a conservative democrat, most are :p

No real left in this country still >>

PS: Its fun and all to be nihilistic about political parties, but there are also real differences. “They’re all bums” is usually a justification for people who don’t wanna face how debased their party really is.

133 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:24:49pm

re: #132 windsagio

its actually easy to be a conservative democrat, most are :p

No real left in this country still >>

PS: Its fun and all to be nihilistic about political parties, but there are also real differences. “They’re all bums” is usually a justification for people who don’t wanna face how debased their party really is.

Except now they really are all bums.

134 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:26:00pm

re: #132 windsagio

its actually easy to be a conservative democrat, most are :p

No real left in this country still >>

PS: Its fun and all to be nihilistic about political parties, but there are also real differences. “They’re all bums” is usually a justification for people who don’t wanna face how debased their party really is.

It’s all relative.

Most of the Democrats are Tories by British standards, and this is why i said liberal and conservative, it’s all relative to the spectrum of the nation.

135 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:26:58pm

re: #133 researchok

Except now they really are all bums.

Seems to me they are all slaves to corporate ownership. That’s where the real problem lies. I think many have the best of intentions but if they don’t play by the rules set by the money class they’re toast and know it.

136 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:27:08pm

Hitchens Destroys the Cult of Ayn Rand
Youtube Video

137 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:28:02pm

re: #132 windsagio

its actually easy to be a conservative democrat, most are :p

No real left in this country still >>

PS: Its fun and all to be nihilistic about political parties, but there are also real differences. “They’re all bums” is usually a justification for people who don’t wanna face how debased their party really is.

The Democratic party platform itself is not left wing by any international standard, so why their members or legislators would be is anathema.

138 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:28:53pm

we have become a nation of fictionistas…make believe and pretend…
it’s very disappointing to me

139 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:29:11pm

Nihilism blows. If they are all bums, then get out there and do something about it.

140 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:29:33pm

re: #135 allegro

Seems to me they are all slaves to corporate ownership. That’s where the real problem lies. I think many have the best of intentions but if they don’t play by the rules set by the money class they’re toast and know it.

I’d have to agree with that to a great degree.

I would add there isn’t even a pretense anymore of representatives looking out for constituents best interests.

When you add poison into the water, only a fool believes it affects only half the pool.

141 windsagio  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:29:34pm

re: #133 researchok

Except now they really are all bums.

Actually I don’t really think they are. A good number really want to be good public servants.

142 Kragar  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:29:51pm

The Evangelical Adoption Crusade

“We expect adoptions will continue to rise as new movements within the Christian community raise awareness and aid for the global orphan crisis,” Bethany CEO Bill Blacquiere said.

One result has been the creation of “rainbow congregations” across the country, like the congregation Moore helps pastor in Louisville, Highview Baptist. An active adoption ministry has brought 140 adopted children into the congregation in the past five years. These children don’t recognize the flags of their home countries, Moore proudly noted at a 2010 conference, but they can all sing “Jesus Loves Me.”

After the Haiti earthquake, the evangelical adoption movement sprang into action. Next to longstanding religious relief orphanages, upstart evangelical missions appeared. Some flung themselves into adversarial activism, decrying international aid organizations like UNICEF for obstructing the speedy adoption of Haitian children.

In the United States, evangelicals and sympathetic politicians led the charge for expanded, expedited international adoption for what they had claimed before the earthquake was the country’s 400,000 or more orphans—a figure repeated widely, despite a UNICEF clarification that likely only 50,000 children had lost both parents. (Identifying which children fit this description is a matter of painstaking investigation.)

Senator Mary Landrieu, a Louisiana Democrat and staunch adoption advocate, argued ferociously to expand a “humanitarian parole” program that expedites adoptions in progress: “Either UNICEF is going to change or have a very difficult time getting support from the US Congress,” she told the Associated Press.

Others used the emotional language of rescue; a Mormon mission president said he had “negotiated the release” of sixty-six children bound for Salt Lake City homes.

But what most people will remember about adoption in Haiti is the saga of Laura Silsby and nine other Southern Baptists who were jailed after trying to transport thirty-three “orphans”—most solicited from living families—to an unbuilt orphanage in the Dominican Republic, to await prospective evangelical adopters. Throughout the scandal the group members maintained they were simply “ten Christians who obeyed God’s calling.”

Silsby’s claims to divine guidance attracted scorn from the media—one outlet accused her of “baby-snatching for Jesus”—but her language resonates with now-commonplace Christian adoption rhetoric.

The movement cuts across evangelical distinctions, with the Southern Baptists taking a doctrinal lead; charismatic prayer warrior Lou Engle, co-founder of TheCall, praying for “the most outrageous adoption movement to be released through the church”; and Rick Warren declaring that members of his Saddleback Church will adopt 500 children in three years.

143 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:30:13pm

re: #138 albusteve

we have become a nation of fictionistas…make believe and pretend…
it’s very disappointing to me

Worst of all we believe only our cause is noble.

144 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:30:21pm

re: #133 researchok

Except now they really are all bums.

Nah. Some of them are bums, con artists, and grifters. Some are just flat out crazy and radical. Others and perhaps they are a minority, are people who try to do the right thing for the most people but have to work within a system that favors being a bum, con artist, grifter, crazy, radical or some combination thereof. Anybody who actually wants to be a public servant is fighting an uphill battle.

145 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:30:49pm

re: #141 windsagio

Actually I don’t really think they are. A good number really want to be good public servants.

Maybe, but the party leadership will never allow that.

Ever.

146 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:31:32pm

re: #144 moderatelyradicalliberal

Nah. Some of them are bums, con artists, and grifters. Some are just flat out crazy and radical. Others and perhaps they are a minority, are people who try to do the right thing for the most people but have to work within a system that favors being a bum, con artist, grifter, crazy, radical or some combination thereof. Anybody who actually wants to be a public servant is fighting an uphill battle.

OK, a minority are OK.

A small minority. Very small.

147 darthstar  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:31:34pm

Come on, Fox…Jesus is dead already…leave him the fuck alone. Obama doesn’t hate Easter any more than you know how to tell the truth.

148 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:31:54pm

re: #145 researchok

Maybe, but the party leadership will never allow that.

Ever.

Party whips are a lot to answer for.

149 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:32:41pm

re: #148 wozzablog

Party whips are a lot to answer for.

Ain’t that the truth.

And then some.

150 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:33:20pm

re: #87 BishopX

I know it’s not generally your scene, but have you tried MoveOn or contacting either your local AFSCME or AFL-CIO political coordinator?

Just saw your post - AFSCME does have a chapter for state employees, and it does have members.
They AFSCME person in charge here, though - heckuva nice guy, and completely ineffective at everything.

151 allegro  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:34:29pm

re: #146 researchok

OK, a minority are OK.

A small minority. Very small.

I think there is a very big difference between local politicians and national. I know of many local and state level elected public servants, such as one of my best friend who is the mayor of Houston, who are good people doing a good job with the right intent. The higher the office, the greater the money corruption due to the higher cost of getting elected. When you have to sell out to get the job, there’s a booger.

152 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:35:00pm

re: #150 reine.de.tout

heckuva nice guy, and completely ineffective at everything.

I hadn’t thought you’d met me……….

153 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:38:35pm

re: #151 allegro

I think there is a very big difference between local politicians and national. I know of many local and state level elected public servants, such as one of my best friend who is the mayor of Houston, who are good people doing a good job with the right intent. The higher the office, the greater the money corruption due to the higher cost of getting elected. When you have to sell out to get the job, there’s a booger.

On that I would agree.

Local and state level politicians tend to do a better job because they live across the street from the people they work for,

154 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:40:24pm

if you have a FOREIGN NAME you MUST PROCLAIM

155 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:41:34pm

re: #154 engineer dog

if you have a FOREIGN NAME you MUST PROCLAIM

My name is Slobodan Grytsdbkg.

From Bosnia.

156 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:44:44pm

re: #153 researchok

On that I would agree.

Local and state level politicians tend to do a better job because they live across the street from the people they work for,

This thought is somewhat tangent to that one….

I think one reason Gov. Jan Brewer of AZ backed away from the Birther position is that she actually met Obama. She says it’s because she believes the governor of Hawaii.

157 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:44:54pm

I shall bid you all good night from merry ol’ England.

Quantities of ale, wine, chocolate and cheesecake are taking their toll.

158 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:45:51pm

re: #153 researchok

On that I would agree.

Local and state level politicians tend to do a better job because they live across the street from the people they work for,

Tell that to the people in OH, WI, MI and FL. They aren’t too happy about their local level politicians. Not here in Texas either.

159 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:46:10pm

re: #157 wozzablog

I shall bid you all good night from merry ol’ England.

Quantities of ale, wine, chocolate and cheesecake are taking their toll.

Tally ho!

160 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:46:12pm

Well, seeing as the topic is about Obama, I’ll just introduce this lovely piece of bullshit from the Manure Pit that has become the GOP.

/horn tooting

161 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:46:56pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Tally ho!

pip pip.

162 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:47:01pm

re: #157 wozzablog

I shall bid you all good night from merry ol’ England.

Quantities of ale, wine, chocolate and cheesecake are taking their toll.

Feel free to unburden yourself and send any excess to a fellow countryman living abroad, deprived of all good things from home…

163 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:47:18pm

re: #156 wrenchwench

This thought is somewhat tangent to that one…

I think one reason Gov. Jan Brewer of AZ backed away from the Birther position is that she actually met Obama. She says it’s because she believes the governor of Hawaii.

Jan got spooked by the Gifford’s shooting. She’ll never admit it publicly, but I think she decided to tone it down a notch. Arizona was getting too crazy even for her.

164 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:47:51pm

re: #163 moderatelyradicalliberal

Jan got spooked by the Gifford’s shooting. She’ll never admit it publicly, but I think she decided to tone it down a notch. Arizona was getting too crazy even for her.

Excellent point.

165 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:48:36pm

re: #21 researchok

The BusHitler contingent have nothing on these morons.

just so we’re all straight on the facts, i never saw this name or any other variation of it, on the “hard left” blogs i’ve frequented

the most common offensive nickname for george w bush, by far, was “chimpy” - because he has big ears

166 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:48:48pm

re: #158 moderatelyradicalliberal

Tell that to the people in OH, WI, MI and FL. They aren’t too happy about their local level politicians. Not here in Texas either.

And those politicians will respond a whole lot faster.

167 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:48:58pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Tally ho!

my cry from the top of a black diamond run

168 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:50:11pm

RIP Tiny.

Sometimes nature just works this way.

We had six caterpillars arrive in the mail for our youngest to observe the process of metamorphosis.

Five are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. One just…failed to grow. He was 1/10 the size of the others before I finally let the kids know that Tiny was probably not going to make it.

He finally just lay down in the bottom and now there’s stuff covering him.

I suppose it’s a good lesson of another nature for them.

169 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:50:14pm

re: #165 engineer dog

just so we’re all straight on the facts, i never saw this name or any other variation of it, on the “hard left” blogs i’ve frequented

the most common offensive nickname for george w bush, by far, was “chimpy” - because he has big ears

There was lots of BusHitler nut jobs out there, usually warning of concentration camps ready to receive detainees.

170 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:53:14pm

re: #169 researchok

There was lots of BusHitler nut jobs out there, usually warning of concentration camps ready to receive detainees.

have you got some documentation on that?

we were more likely to be discussing the stalinistic aspects of the “patriot” act and guantanamo, and continue to bemoan obama’s complicity in this

it wasn’t until the recent “crotch-grabbing” at airport security lines controversy that bloggers on the right became concerned with these things…

171 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:53:32pm

re: #169 researchok

There was lots of BusHitler nut jobs out there, usually warning of concentration camps ready to receive detainees.

Yeah, like Alex Jones. He was screaming about concentration camps here in Texas all the way through Bush’s time in office. Now he’s a hero on the lunatic right.

172 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:55:30pm

personally, i’m more concerned about wiretapping and email reading than crotch-grabbing

i’m not keeping any personal financial information in my underpants

173 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:55:34pm

re: #170 engineer dog

have you got some documentation on that?

Just check Alex Jones’ site. He was screaming about it for years, ESPECIALLY after Katrina. FEMA was supposedly going to round us all up and put us in camps.

174 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:55:50pm

re: #170 engineer dog

have you got some documentation on that?

we were more likely to be discussing the stalinistic aspects of the “patriot” act and guantanamo, and continue to bemoan obama’s complicity in this

it wasn’t until the recent “crotch-grabbing” at airport security lines controversy that bloggers on the right became concerned with these things…

DO a Google search on Bushitler.

Start here

175 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:56:42pm

re: #171 Lidane

Yeah, like Alex Jones. He was screaming about concentration camps here in Texas all the way through Bush’s time in office. Now he’s a hero on the lunatic right.

For sure.

Stupid is equal opportunity.

176 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:57:52pm

re: #170 engineer dog

There is all kind sof crazy out there.

Real, major crazy.

177 recusancy  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:58:10pm

re: #174 researchok

DO a Google search on Bushitler.

Start here

If it can only be found on the democratic underground and right wing blogs then it’s definitely fringe to the point of being meaningless.

178 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:58:46pm

like a concentration camp can be kept secret?…
good god, we are so fucked

179 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:58:47pm

re: #177 recusancy

If it can only be found on the democratic underground and right wing blogs then it’s definitely fringe to the point of being meaningless.

And kos? And other left blogs?

180 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:59:45pm

re: #178 albusteve

like a concentration camp can be kept secret?…
good god, we are so fucked

As my grandfather would say, ‘Stupid is a commodity given out in great abundance by God’.

181 Lidane  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 3:59:51pm

re: #179 researchok

And kos? And other left blogs?

I don’t think Kos ever fell for the concentration camp idiocy. Some of the bloggers on his site might have, but I don’t think he ever pushed that nonsense himself.

182 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:00:11pm

re: #174 researchok

DO a Google search on Bushitler.

Start here


Go to pages 2, 3 & 4. A good chunk of those “Bushitler” references are from right-wing sites complaining about the left’s use of the term - Michelle Malkin, Big Government, American Thinker, Moorewatch.

183 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:00:23pm

re: #178 albusteve

like a concentration camp can be kept secret?…
good god, we are so fucked

Even the Mafia can’t be kept secret, and that’s with a death penalty for talking.

184 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:02:21pm

re: #182 BongCrodny

Go to pages 2, 3 & 4. A good chunk of those “Bushitler” references are from right-wing sites complaining about the left’s use of the term - Michelle Malkin, Big Government, American Thinker, Moorewatch.

And photos from hard left marches and demonstrations?

Look, I understand you don’t want there to be any nut jobs onb the left. I get that. It’s just not credible.

185 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:03:20pm

re: #184 researchok

And photos from hard left marches and demonstrations?

Look, I understand you don’t want there to be any nut jobs onb the left. I get that. It’s just not credible.


When the heck did I ever say that?

186 albusteve  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:03:33pm

re: #184 researchok

And photos from hard left marches and demonstrations?

Look, I understand you don’t want there to be any nut jobs onb the left. I get that. It’s just not credible.

denial is a transparty phenomenon too

187 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:04:04pm

re: #181 Lidane

I don’t think Kos ever fell for the concentration camp idiocy. Some of the bloggers on his site might have, but I don’t think he ever pushed that nonsense himself.

Yes, that is true.

He (rightfully) began to watch his rhetoric after the debacle of the ‘I’m happy about the dead Americans meme’

188 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:04:06pm

re: #184 researchok

And photos from hard left marches and demonstrations?

Look, I understand you don’t want there to be any nut jobs onb the left. I get that. It’s just not credible.

all i know is that i’ve hung out at eschaton for years, and we never used ‘bushitler’ there except to make fun of right wing misconceptions about left wingers

189 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:15pm

re: #186 albusteve

denial is a transparty phenomenon too

My point exactly.

What makes this place work is that for the most part, the hard extremes (read: nut jobs)aren’t welcome.

190 recusancy  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:26pm

re: #188 engineer dog

all i know is that i’ve hung out at eschaton for years, and we never used ‘bushitler’ there except to make fun of right wing misconceptions about left wingers

And Atrios has unregulated comments. (As far as I know)

191 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:50pm

re: #188 engineer dog

all i know is that i’ve hung out at eschaton for years, and we never used ‘bushitler’ there except to make fun of right wing misconceptions about left wingers

I’m glad you missed it.

It was ugly and only polluted the waters.

192 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:07:25pm

re: #190 recusancy

And Atrios has unregulated comments. (As far as I know)

about the most unregulated on the innertubes. the only time i know of that anybody was ever banned was when they made an explicit threat of violence against a member of the administration

193 researchok  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:08:27pm

re: #192 engineer dog

about the most unregulated on the innertubes. the only time i know of that anybody was ever banned was when they made an explicit threat of violence against a member of the administration

Please tell me no argued that decision.

194 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:10:10pm

re: #193 researchok

Please tell me no argued that decision.

we certainly did not

195 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:04:35pm

In another post I commented on three things that the President highlighted in his remarks about Easter (which I consider to be a proclamation, by the way):

“I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -– because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there’s something about the resurrection — something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective.”

1) The President acknowledges the historical fact of the resurrection.

“And we’re reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world — past, present and future — and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection.”

2) The President gives us the simple message of the Gospel.

“In the words of the book Isaiah: “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.””

3) The President highlighted the prophecy in Isaiah 53 (one of hundreds in the OT about the Messiah), written 700 years before Christ.

Muslims reject the above Christian doctrines. They reject the resurrection and they reject the idea that God has a son. They also reject the concept of the Trinity. So I think it’s safe to say that the also reject the prophecies of the OT and Isaiah 53, from which the President quoted.

196 SpaceJesus  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:13:15pm

right wing = scum

197 Achilles Tang  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:18:55pm

re: #195 Girl with a Pearl Earring

I don’t know that conclusion for sure, but while the historical facts may be rejected, the sentiments are not necessarily so; so if you wish to be fair you should pick on all non Christians in your comment, including atheists, and not just address Muslims.

198 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:24:54pm

re: #197 Naso Tang

I don’t know that conclusion for sure, but while the historical facts may be rejected, the sentiments are not necessarily so; so if you wish to be fair you should pick on all non Christians in your comment, including atheists, and not just address Muslims.

I’m not sure how you’re coming to the conclusion that I am picking on anyone in my comments by citing the differences between Christianity. The headline above reads “Obama Hates Easter But Loves Muslims”. Therefore, I cited Obama’s comments and only noted that (in the context of the headlines) Muslims would disagree with him on his beliefs.

Don’t be so thin-skinned.

199 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:29:18pm

re: #197 Naso Tang

I don’t know that conclusion for sure, but while the historical facts may be rejected, the sentiments are not necessarily so; so if you wish to be fair you should pick on all non Christians in your comment, including atheists, and not just address Muslims.

On the other hand, if you’re feeling left out because I didn’t “pick on” you……

:)

200 Achilles Tang  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:30:58pm

re: #198 Girl with a Pearl Earring

I take your point, although reading your post it seemed you were expressing your opinion, presumably in agreement with those who think Obama has a Muslim bias.

You should use sarc tags more, but I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

201 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:43:24pm

re: #200 Naso Tang

I take your point, although reading your post it seemed you were expressing your opinion, presumably in agreement with those who think Obama has a Muslim bias.

You should use sarc tags more, but I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

No problem, my friend. The point of my post was to express my opinion that the President in fact made a “proclamation” by acknowledging his Christian beliefs, based on his own words. It may have not been the sort of “official” proclamation some wanted, but I believe he was “proclaiming” the Christian Gospel in his remarks. I don’t know what more his detractors could want.

202 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:51:09pm

re: #188 engineer dog

all i know is that i’ve hung out at eschaton for years, and we never used ‘bushitler’ there except to make fun of right wing misconceptions about left wingers

Atrios is the only blog I read regularly besides this one :D

203 prairiefire  Tue, Apr 26, 2011 6:05:10pm

re: #179 researchok

And kos? And other left blogs?

That Google cache really doesn’t prove anything other than that term was used. There is no context. There is a listing for LGF!


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