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1 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:06:18pm

That’s very sad news. RIP, to a talented & creative man. Blessings on his family in their time of grief.

2 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:06:48pm

RIP Steve Jobs.

3 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:07:29pm

He was a visionary. It is terrible that he died. A true loss for us all.

4 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:07:38pm

Love him or hate him, he and Steve shaped our culture as few have. Thank you to both of the Steves & sleep well, to Steve Jobs.

5 The Mountain That Blogs  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:08:51pm

Rest in peace, Steve Jobs.

Man, cancer sucks.

6 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:10:04pm

re: #5 The Mountain That Blogs

Especially Pancreatic.

7 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:11:12pm

As I posted in Avanti’s comment section: Rest in Peace Steve Jobs.

8 Ming  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:12:12pm

Steve Jobs made the universe more beautiful.

I’m glad he lived to see Apple’s market cap move ahead of Microsoft’s!

9 jamesfirecat  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:12:39pm

Huh… the first analogy that came to my mind (for better or worse) was is this how people must have felt back in the 60’s when Walt Disney died…

Like we’ve lost one of the world’s great creative visionaries…

10 teleskiguy  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:13:43pm

He was our generation’s Edison. An enormous loss indeed. I’m typing this LGF comment on an iPad 2. My condolences to his family and friends. Thank you Steve Jobs for your visionary mind.

11 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:15:07pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

Huh… the first analogy that came to my mind (for better or worse) was is this how people must have felt back in the 60’s when Walt Disney died…

Like we’ve lost one of the world’s great creative visionaries…

I have friends who were friends with Disney…he was a remarkable man, no question

12 Political Atheist  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:16:39pm

Anyone know what his favorite charities might have been?

13 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:17:04pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

Correction, our generation’s Tesla.

There are some…interesting things about Edison.

14 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:17:32pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

He was our generation’s Edison. An enormous loss indeed. I’m typing this LGF comment on an iPad 2. My condolences to his family and friends. Thank you Steve Jobs for your visionary mind.

I can’t say the same for the iPad marketing team. I saw a recent TV commercial for iPad—it showed some kid using iPad to write 2 + 2 = 4 like an old-fashioned slate board. WTF? Yeah, that’s a reason to buy an iPad.

15 FreedomMoon  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:17:33pm

OMG, is this for real? How unfortunate and tragic, I’m in disbelief. This really is so saddening. This is someone that the whole globe will miss, myself most definitely included.

16 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:17:39pm

I’ve used nothing but Apple products since the Apple II. #1871 off the production line as a matter of fact.

Things are going to be different now.

17 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:18:31pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone know what his favorite charities might have been?

interesting question…probably have to wait for the book

18 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:19:17pm

In 1987, we had an apple IIe.

The hardest assignment in my high school was the junior year term paper. The teacher insisted it be done in applewriter. I was one of the few who had the requisite computer and program at my home, so I never had to do a late-nighter at the school.

Apple: Good enough for Ms. Nordlund. That says a lot.

19 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:19:28pm

re: #13 ProLifeLiberal

Correction, our generation’s Tesla.

There are some…interesting things about Edison.

Edison and Henry Ford conspired to destroy Tesla, like a pair of supervillains.

Why did the motion picture industry end up in LA? Because it was the furthest away they could get from New Jersey. Edison was claiming royalties from every movie ever made using his film and projection apparatus.

20 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:19:48pm

Too young. Far too young. Goodbye Steve. And thank you.

21 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:20:16pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone know what his favorite charities might have been?

Good question. It would be good to know.

22 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:20:38pm

re: #19 Alouette

Bingo on the second part.

Never heard the first. Could you explain it to me?

23 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:21:49pm

re: #19 Alouette

Edison and Henry Ford conspired to destroy Tesla, like a pair of supervillains.

Why did the motion picture industry end up in LA? Because it was the furthest away they could get from New Jersey. Edison was claiming royalties from every movie ever made using his film and projection apparatus.

well, Ford made Firestone so it all equals out, no?

24 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:21:53pm

Image: File:Twain_in_Tesla%27s_Lab.jpg

One of the coolest photos ever taken.

25 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:22:16pm

re: #24 EmmmieG

Unfortunately, it isn’t loading for me.

26 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:22:17pm

re: #24 EmmmieG

Image: File:Twain_in_Tesla%27s_Lab.jpg

One of the coolest photos ever taken.

dud

27 chunkymonkey  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:23:44pm

Dang. Steve was a heck of an innovator.

28 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:24:40pm

he was more of a marketing visionary than a tech visionary…

But just for bringing the smart device market to life, we owe Mr. Jobs our thanks.

29 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:24:55pm

re: #16 Romantic Heretic

I’ve used nothing but Apple products since the Apple II. #1871 off the production line as a matter of fact.

Things are going to be different now.

I’ve had precisely one Apple product since I started using computers.

Still, I’m sad because the world has lost the type of person who doesn’t come along very often. ‘Visionary’ is an over-used word, but if it applies to anyone, It’s Jobs.

RIP.

30 renata39.5  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:26:09pm

re: #14 Alouette

I can’t say the same for the iPad marketing team. I saw a recent TV commercial for iPad—it showed some kid using iPad to write 2 + 2 = 4 like an old-fashioned slate board. WTF? Yeah, that’s a reason to buy an iPad.

Well, if you’re teaching a child math or writing, the actual physical act of forming the numbers, equations, and letters is a big part of the learning process. I’d rather have them do it on a no-mess, easily erasable surface than on a chalkboard. Tactile learning is important, and it’s important to show the the iPad is a part of tactile learning, not just touching app icons.

31 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:26:19pm

re: #19 Alouette

Edison and Henry Ford conspired to destroy Tesla, like a pair of supervillains.

I learned last night that when Ford introduced the Model A, he gave the first one off the assembly line to Edison.

32 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:26:34pm

Except for the lawyers.

The Beatles sued Steve Jobs over who owned the trademark rights to the word “Apple.”

Then they both sued Gwyneth Paltrow.
//

33 laZardo  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:26:36pm

re: #26 albusteve

Gotta open it in a new tab.

34 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:26:51pm

For the record, my first computer was a MAC 128k. I loved that little machine.

35 TedStriker  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:27:02pm

re: #32 Alouette

Except for the lawyers.

The Beatles sued Steve Jobs over who owned the trademark rights to the word “Apple.”

Then they both sued Gwyneth Paltrow.
//

*rimshot*

36 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:27:14pm

I’m legitimately upset by this. He helped to change everything.

RIP Steve. :(

37 prairiefire  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:27:55pm

R.I.P, Mr. Jobs.

38 renata39.5  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:28:16pm

The thing that I’ve always appreciated about Jobs is his ability to see genius in technology and aesthetics and get those people on board. He knew how to form a team that could create exactly the product he knew his target audience wanted and needed, and he knew how to market that product in beautiful ways. It is sad to see him go.

39 jaunte  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:28:36pm

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

My wife has never liked jewelry, so she asked for a 128k Mac instead of an engagement ring. She made a lot of money on that thing, typing legal documents. We still have it, resting in a place of honor in the upstairs closet.

40 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:28:38pm

re: #36 Lidane

I’m legitimately upset by this. He helped to change everything.

RIP Steve. :(

no doubt his vision and business acumen will continue

41 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:29:57pm

re: #39 jaunte

My wife has never liked jewelry, so she asked for a 128k Mac instead of an engagement ring. She made a lot of money on that thing, typing legal documents. We still have it, resting in a place of honor in the upstairs closet.

Zedushka bought a 40MB hard drive for $500. In 1989.

42 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:30:10pm

St Jobs!

43 TedStriker  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:30:37pm

re: #40 albusteve

no doubt his vision and business acumen will continue

We’ll see how Tim Cook does as the captain of the S.S. Apple with Jobs gone. AAPL stocks will take a beating though, most likely.

44 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:30:47pm

re: #19 Alouette

Edison and Henry Ford conspired to destroy Tesla, like a pair of supervillains.

Why did the motion picture industry end up in LA? Because it was the furthest away they could get from New Jersey. Edison was claiming royalties from every movie ever made using his film and projection apparatus.

And sending thugs. And stealing movies. And generally being horrible.

Ford and Eddison are two of the more repugnant industrialists in American history and both remarkable racists to boot.

However, Tesla got a unit named after him and has real physics behind him. Tesla will be remembered for his contributions as long as there is physics being done. There is no Eddison effect or Eddison’s law. There is no fundamental physics he did, and most of his inventions were done by those working for him. Eddison will be forgotten as LEDs and Curly bulbs take over.

45 Curt  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:31:07pm

His business acumen will most certainly be studied in detail for years….by those who want to be truly serious about being ahead of the crowd…by a long way. Began with an Apple ][+ (1gHz/48K/2x 5.25” 134Kb disk drives, an 80 Column card, a Zenith Green screen 12” monitor, and a C.Itoh Daisywheel printer and Easy Writer Pro ($5600 in all)…all because the (now ex) wife said “it can’t just play games” when deciding which computer to buy. I did a lot of really cool programming…stayed with the line to the Apple IIcx, then I had to go to “the dark side.”

Steve and Steve…they did change the world!

46 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:31:43pm

re: #43 talon_262

We’ll see how Tim Cook does as the captain of the S.S. Apple with Jobs gone. AAPL stocks will take a beating though, most likely.

I guess it ultimately depends on the quality of people he hired…actually I don’t know

47 [deleted]  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:31:46pm
48 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:32:29pm

re: #41 Alouette

For that today, I can get a 2TB from HP, or 2 2TBs from Hitachi and a 2TB from Samsung.

49 [deleted]  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:32:56pm
50 Curt  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:33:15pm

re: #46 albusteve

I guess it ultimately depends on the quality of people he hired…actually I don’t know

Actually, Jobs wasn’t for the Mac, until it got rave reviews…Mike Marluka and a team developed it by hiding their work from Steve Jobs…so, yes, the quality and vision of a great staff can carry the day, too.

51 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:33:20pm

re: #39 jaunte

My wife has never liked jewelry, so she asked for a 128k Mac instead of an engagement ring. She made a lot of money on that thing, typing legal documents. We still have it, resting in a place of honor in the upstairs closet.

I still have mine… It is utterly superseded by now, but I have never been able to get rid of it for sentimental reasons. It still works too.

52 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:33:27pm

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

And sending thugs. And stealing movies. And generally being horrible.

Ford and Eddison are two of the more repugnant industrialists in American history and both remarkable racists to boot.

However, Tesla got a unit named after him and has real physics behind him. Tesla will be remembered for his contributions as long as there is physics being done. There is no Eddison effect or Eddison’s law. There is no fundamental physics he did, and most of his inventions were done by those working for him. Eddison will be forgotten as LEDs and Curly bulbs take over.

Henry Ford got one thing right: he paid his workers enough so that they could afford to buy his product.

53 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:33:41pm

It’s not a good idea to continue down this road.

54 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:33:57pm

One of my relatives on Facebook just posted this:

‎”Tres manzanas cambiaron al mundo: la de Adán y Eva, la de Newton y la de Steve Jobs.”

Translation: Three apples changed the world: Adam and Eve’s, Isaac Newton’s, and Steve Jobs’s.

55 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:34:26pm

re: #53 Charles

It’s not a good idea to continue down this road.

Thank you.

56 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:34:33pm

re: #53 Charles

It’s not a good idea to continue down this road.

Fair enough.

57 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:35:01pm

re: #41 Alouette

I would like you explain the Ford and Edison destroying Tesla thing please. :)

58 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:35:01pm

re: #54 Lidane

One of my relatives on Facebook just posted this:

Translation: Three apples changed the world: Adam and Eve’s, Isaac Newton’s, and Steve Jobs’s.

heh…clever and probably true

59 TedStriker  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:35:27pm

re: #47 LudwigVanQuixote

Bad form and uncalled for…leave that animosity and back-biting downstairs, please.

Show some respect for Charles on a damn RIP thread, at least.

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:35:47pm

re: #54 Lidane

One of my relatives on Facebook just posted this:

Translation: Three apples changed the world: Adam and Eve’s, Isaac Newton’s, and Steve Jobs’s.

I am so stealing this.

61 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:35:59pm

re: #59 talon_262

Bad form and uncalled for…leave that animosity and back-biting downstairs, please.

Show some respect for Charles, at least.

I already said fair enough.

63 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:36:35pm

re: #48 ProLifeLiberal

For that today, I can get a 2TB from HP, or 2 2TBs from Hitachi and a 2TB from Samsung.

Good luck Buying a Hitachi Hard drive.. We sold that division off several months ago…We bought it from IBM several year ago.. Always lost money on building Hard drives..

64 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:37:03pm

re: #57 ProLifeLiberal

I would like you explain the Ford and Edison destroying Tesla thing please. :)

They crushed his business ventures and tried to discredit his work. Eddison did a similar thing with Wesinghouse, but Westinghouse won.

65 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:37:24pm

re: #52 Alouette

Henry Ford got one thing right: he paid his workers enough so that they could afford to buy his product.

Except when he machine gunned them if they struck…

66 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:37:24pm
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary. - Steve Jobs

67 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:37:40pm

re: #64 LudwigVanQuixote

ok this is making me crazy, “Edison” not “Eddison.”

68 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:38:36pm

The thing to me, about Apple’s products, was the focus on really outstanding design. Yes, they had great function, but the aesthetics were almost as important as the function. The company reminds me in many ways of Charles & Ray Eames, with the focus on form AND function.

69 jaunte  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:38:51pm

Boingboing has a special tribute page up:

[Link: boingboing.net…]

70 TedStriker  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:39:02pm

re: #61 LudwigVanQuixote

I had already wrote and posted it while you and Charles came to terms.

71 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:40:07pm

It’s a weird feeling, I have a lot of issues with the way Jobs ran Apple and the cult of personality that tended to develop around him.

Still… its goddamn weird knowing he’s gone, and his leadership of Apple in the last 5 years moved us well into the Sci-fi future we’d all been waiting for.

72 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:40:30pm

Bah. Having trouble uploading the image.

Take the first three images here: [Link: www.google.com…]

Also, BTW, most of the kids I know now think that Tesla was a vampire.

At least they know his name. Thanks, Hollywood.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:40:40pm

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

For the record, my first computer was a MAC 128k. I loved that little machine.

My all time favorite computer is my Mac SE/30. Still a good wordprocessing machine to this day.

74 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:41:35pm

re: #62 jaunte

“Then, in Zork, you type in whether you want to turn left and look out the window, or right, and go downstairs…”

I was just looking at the box for the Atari version of the original Zork. I had all the Infocom games - the Zork series, Leisure Suit Larry, Trinity, Hitchhiker’s Guide. I even wrote a Zork ripoff game in Atari Basic — that’s how I taught myself what arrays were and how to use them.

75 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:41:51pm

re: #73 wlewisiii

My all time favorite computer is my Mac SE/30. Still a good wordprocessing machine to this day.

That was my second machine!

Then a Mac II…

I regret currently typing on a wintell machine, but I have an Iphone and an Ipad…

76 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:43:01pm

So, if Jobs was now going to become a Hollywood-style superbeing, what would he be, or what powers would he have?

77 abbyadams  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:43:37pm

re: #74 Charles

Leisure Suit Larry! My brother had all of those…I used to help him try to beat them just because the graphics and humor were so…strange (to some suburban kids growing up in the 80s, anyway.)

78 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:43:37pm

re: #72 EmmmieG

Holy shit, that is awesome.

I fortunately know what he did, and that he is David Bowie.

79 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:43:50pm

re: #74 Charles

I was just looking at the box for the Atari version of the original Zork. I had all the Infocom games - the Zork series, Leisure Suit Larry, Trinity, Hitchhiker’s Guide. I even wrote a Zork ripoff game in Atari Basic — taught myself what arrays were and how to use them.

Leisure Suit Larry!
2pts

80 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:43:59pm

re: #54 Lidane

One of my relatives on Facebook just posted this:

Translation: Three apples changed the world: Adam and Eve’s, Isaac Newton’s, and Steve Jobs’s.

1) See the post at the very end of the “A Bridge Too Far” thread, if you haven’t already.

2) enjoy this sketch my niece made of her host mother in Argentina:

Abuela

81 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:44:06pm

re: #72 EmmmieG

82 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:44:24pm

re: #76 EmmmieG

Clearly, mind control :p

And a smooth, streamlined shell without any orifices (useful against water and gas based supervillians)

83 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:45:07pm

re: #80 wrenchwench

1) See the post at the very end of the “A Bridge Too Far” thread, if you haven’t already.

2) enjoy this sketch my niece made of her host mother in Argentina:

Abuela

that’s really very good

84 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:45:55pm

re: #83 albusteve

that’s really very good

Can you read it?

85 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:46:50pm

re: #66 Lidane

Wrench is right, you really should look at this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

86 Radical Rafe  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:47:22pm

Wow. The Thomas Edison, Guglielmo Marconi, Nikola Tesla and Howard Hughes of my generation.

I wrote a high school paper about him and NeXT Computer in 1988 or 89; my first exposure to him. Found him every bit as intriguing then as most of the world did beginning just a few years later.

Rest in peace indeed.

87 freetoken  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:47:24pm

re: #66 Lidane

Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life.

Alas, what happens to so many is that we do end up living someone else’s life, usually our parents’.

88 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:47:26pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Can you read it?

regretfully, no
what does she say?

89 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:47:31pm

re: #79 albusteve

Leisure Suit Larry!
2pts

Our first commercial program was ‘Kiri’s Hodgepodge’, for our toddler. There is virtually no mention of it on the web. The boys and I went for ‘Hamurabi’, typed in from a book. It is the great-grandfather of the ‘Civilization’ series.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

90 Samson  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:47:46pm

Just read the news…on my iPhone. I think that says it all.

RIP Steve Jobs. Thanks for all you have done for all of us.

91 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:49:13pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

I should go get Matt, we can have a nice good talk about these things :D

Of the old generation home computers the C64 was best for games, but the Apple 2 had Ultima IV and Karateka… and that meant a lot.

92 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:49:17pm

re: #88 albusteve

regretfully, no
what does she say?

Loosely:

They invite me to eat again. I wish they’d let me stay home where I can let one rip and nobody hears.

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:49:20pm

I’ve never been cool enough or rich enough to use Apple products. But I have a true admiration for what Jobs did with Apple.

He was richer than Croesus, and deserved it.

94 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:50:52pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

Loosely:

They invite me to eat again. I wish they’d let me stay home where I can let one rip and nobody hears.

heh…my mom feels the same way…at 91 she doesn’t want any attention…
there is a charm there

95 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:51:51pm

re: #87 freetoken

Alas, what happens to so many is that we do end up living someone else’s life, usually our parents’.

It took graduate school and my finally cutting the apron strings to really realize that I’d been living my mom’s life all these years. Now I’m finally doing what I want.

96 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:52:07pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

My wife just tried, and said the reflexive verbs are throwing her, that it’s very natural, idiomatic Spanish.

She’s working through it now.

It includes the phrase ‘throw a fart’, which is pretty awesome.

97 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:52:38pm

re: #91 windsagio

I should go get Matt, we can have a nice good talk about these things :D

Of the old generation home computers the C64 was best for games, but the Apple 2 had Ultima IV and Karateka… and that meant a lot.

Our first was an Apple ][ knockoff in Korea. When it smoked we went for a ][+ with a $400 5 1/4” single-sided Rana drive. Apple should have given the knockoffs away to get people hooked.

98 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:52:49pm

re: #96 Obdicut

My wife just tried, and said the reflexive verbs are throwing her, that it’s very natural, idiomatic Spanish.

She’s working through it now.

It includes the phrase ‘throw a fart’, which is pretty awesome.

really, I’m stealing it

99 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:53:10pm

re: #80 wrenchwench

1) See the post at the very end of the “A Bridge Too Far” thread, if you haven’t already.

re: #85 LudwigVanQuixote

Wrench is right, you really should look at this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Wow! Thanks for pointing it out, you two. I’ll send an e-mail now. :D

100 Bob Levin  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:53:26pm

Dayan HaEmet. There should be a national holiday for him. He’s Gutenberg.

101 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:53:48pm

Brilliant innovator and it’s fitting I’m syncing my iPod after a computer restore tonight I guess. Thanks for the iPod, Steve and the other toys.

102 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:54:17pm

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Our first was an Apple ][ knockoff in Korea. When it smoked we went for a ][+ with a $400 5 1/4” single-sided Rana drive. Apple should have given the knockoffs away to get people hooked.

I still have my 2e actually and it still worked 5 years ago (Packed up now). I remember feeling special when I was young because through mishap or prank, the ][e decal was upside down on mine :D

103 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:56:17pm

re: #102 windsagio

I still have my 2e actually and it still worked 5 years ago (Packed up now). I remember feeling special when I was young because through mishap or prank, the ][e decal was upside down on mine :D

Hee—don’t think that’s as good as the 1924 Jenny airmail stamp.

104 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:57:20pm

RIP Steve. You will be missed (even if I wasn’t an Apple geek). Your vision and tech helped shape generations of computer users.

105 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:57:31pm

The genius of Jobs was to understand that design, both efficient and aesthetic, changes how people interface with machines. It sounds so tangential, yet it’s actually a monumental leap in technology passing from the arcane to the common. People understand and can interact with computers…and all of those fabulous derivative devices…because of that wonderful insight. Evolutionary as much as revolutionary.

Hats off to businessman I admire, and condolences to his family.

106 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:58:09pm

I’ve thought about it some and I think the first computer I ever used was an Apple. When I was a kid in the early 90’s, my family didn’t have a computer but in elementary school once a week we’d have a computers class. I remember playing Oregon Trail, Grammar Monsters(always made that dirty just like I did with Mad Libs later), Super munchers (the historic kind of course(, etc. Now, I can’t imagine my life without a computer honestly.

107 freetoken  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 5:59:30pm

re: #105 The Ghost of a Flea

Yes, he was very industrial design oriented and aware that aesthetics strongly influences people. That I think was one half of his genius. The other half, as seen from the start when he teamed up with Wozniak, is that to get anything done one needs to surround himself with good and talented people, and then to treat them well.

108 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:00:56pm

BBL

109 albusteve  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:03:50pm

maybe he’ll be resurrected, like Gandolf…who knows?

110 Archangelus  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:09:03pm

iSad… :(

111 jaunte  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:09:46pm

Jobs, on designing typography into the computer:

Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn’t have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can’t capture, and I found it fascinating.

None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, it’s likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.
[Link: news.stanford.edu…]

112 Jalal bin Smokin?  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:09:59pm

Sarah Palin has got to be pissed that Steve Job’s death has taken her spotlight.

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:10:12pm

Maybe this will prove to some of the conspirators that there is not a cure for cancer that big pharma is hiding from the world to continue their profiteering.

(I’ve heard that recently).

Steve could’ve gotten the pill.

Of course, hard to prove anything to a conspirator.

114 Curt  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:10:24pm

re: #91 windsagio

I should go get Matt, we can have a nice good talk about these things :D

Of the old generation home computers the C64 was best for games, but the Apple 2 had Ultima IV and Karateka… and that meant a lot.

And Wizadry!

115 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:11:09pm

OT, but the guy who does the Livestream Radio Show I watch every Monday Night has begun to support the #occupyX protests.

116 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:12:41pm

re: #114 Curt

Fuck yeah, wizardry!

117 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:13:16pm

My first computer was an Apple II in the early 80’s. Thanks, Steve.

118 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:13:39pm

re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s a conspiracy to make people think there is a conspiracy!

/////

119 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:14:00pm

re: #114 Curt

And Wizadry!

Zork!

120 freetoken  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:14:08pm

re: #111 jaunte

I remember when the original Mac showed up in the office and some of us were playing with it. The typography was a huge leap up from the PC-DOS (we had actual IBMs then) display, and that we could print what we saw on the screen with the Mac made a big impact.

121 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:14:39pm

re: #99 Lidane

E-mail sent! We’ll see what happens next. :)

122 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:14:52pm

And what I paraphrased was the last tweet I saw before Twitter asploded.

123 Skeetghazi  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:16:00pm

Rip Mr. Jobs (from my beloved iPhone)

O/T: Palin fans are demanding their $ back on her Facebook page!

124 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:16:24pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Rip Mr. Jobs (from my beloved iPhone)

O/T: Palin fans are demanding their $ back on her Facebook page!

Hell yeah, that’s pretty awesome :D

125 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:16:33pm

re: #121 Lidane

Don’t forget to follow up! The most persistant get the job! In the most polite way, of course!

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:19:08pm

re: #114 Curt

And Wizadry!

Wizardry. Now those were great games. These days the closest I get is Final Fantasy or Rune Factory on my Nintendo DS.

127 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:19:11pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Really? That seems too good to be true.

128 windsagio  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:19:51pm

re: #126 wlewisiii

its heresy to compare Wizardy or Ultima or Bards Tale to JRPG’s.

HERESY

129 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:20:13pm

re: #128 windsagio

Eh, I love my JRPGs.

130 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:20:18pm

re: #125 Floral Giraffe

Don’t forget to follow up! The most persistant get the job! In the most polite way, of course!

Heh. I was polite enough to offer to stay on with a company I know isn’t going to hire me while I look for a permanent job. I’ll be okay. :)

131 Achilles Tang  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:21:00pm

I’ve never had an Apple device, but I almost bought a Lisa once. I guess it’s because I’m too old to change, but I find this very sad. At 56!

Shit.

132 rwdflynavy  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:21:42pm

RIP Mr. Jobs. My FIL died from Pancreatic cancer. Here is a great organization in that fight.

[Link: www.pancan.com…]

133 Political Atheist  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:21:52pm

re: #121 Lidane

E-mail sent! We’ll see what happens next. :)

Good Luck. BTW not sure you saw it but I pushed back a bit on Mikieysmoky2 for ya. Rookie ought to respect his elders around here.

134 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:22:10pm

re: #112 mracb

Sarah Palin has got to be pissed that Steve Job’s death has taken her spotlight.

She’ll just have to deal with it. Steve Jobs was an acutal visionary that helped to change the world. People will be talking about his contributions for decades.

She won’t be remembered in five years.

135 Achilles Tang  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:22:54pm

re: #132 rwdflynavy

RIP Mr. Jobs. My FIL died from Pancreatic cancer. Here is a great organization in that fight.

[Link: www.pancan.com…]

I had a friend too, he only made it two years.

136 wee fury  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:23:17pm

Sympathy to all the family and friends of Steve Jobs.
RIP

137 freetoken  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:23:41pm

re: #112 mracb

Hehe… the fans of Esther really are whining over on her Facebook page about her decision.

138 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:26:22pm

re: #133 Rightwingconspirator

Good Luck. BTW not sure you saw it but I pushed back a bit on Mikieysmoky2 for ya. Rookie ought to respect his elders around here.

I didn’t see it, no. Sorry! Thanks for the pushback on my behalf, though.

139 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:26:25pm

re: #130 Lidane

I didn’t mean to imply that you weren’t polite.
I meant to URGE you to stay on top of it!
Fingers & toes crossed for you!

140 Achilles Tang  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:26:59pm

re: #137 freetoken

Esther?

141 Lidane  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:27:26pm

re: #139 Floral Giraffe

I didn’t mean to imply that you weren’t polite.
I meant to URGE you to stay on top of it!
Fingers & toes crossed for you!

Oh, I didn’t take it in a mean way. Please don’t think that at all.

I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on my e-mail. :)

142 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:28:17pm

re: #137 freetoken

Hehe… the fans of Esther really are whining over on her Facebook page about her decision.

You guys are really tempting me to ‘like’ the page so I can watch.

Can’t quite bring myself to do it, though.

143 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:35:39pm

I keep falling asleep clutching my iPhone…
I don’t function well without it.
It’s mah crack.
R.I.P. Steve J.

144 Jimmi the Grey  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:37:40pm

We don’t have jet packs or flying cars, but the 21st century has freakin’ Star Trek like communicators, TriCorders and PADDs thanks to you Mr. Jobs, and for that you will forever be held fondly in my esteem.

Rest well, see ya on the other side.

145 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 6:49:10pm

re: #74 Charles

I was just looking at the box for the Atari version of the original Zork. I had all the Infocom games - the Zork series, Leisure Suit Larry, Trinity, Hitchhiker’s Guide. I even wrote a Zork ripoff game in Atari Basic — that’s how I taught myself what arrays were and how to use them.

I had Zork for C-64. Couldn’t play it for crap then, still probably can’t play it for crap now.

146 moonflower  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 7:00:05pm

He was not a perfect person.

He was a visionary and he changed the way the world talks to each other - he started this virtual piazza that we are all walking in. Maybe not started it but made it part of our everyday life.

I will pray for his family and all of us grieving his loss.

147 Jimmi the Grey  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 7:11:57pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone know what his favorite charities might have been?

Yahoo article up has contact info with email and phone number, and there is to be a webpage up ‘soon’. Linky

148 jaunte  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 7:26:49pm

James Urbaniak tweets:
Finally. Mazel tov.

RT @kathrynlopez Hey some dude on fox just knocked my tandy

149 SpaceJesus  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 7:31:34pm

:(

150 Moodsman  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 9:10:14pm

Although I dislike Apple products, I cried when I heard the news.
A true innovator is gone, the world is a lesser place without him.

And it was a grim reminder of our own mortality… he was only 4 years older than me… if a man with 8 billion dollars and a billion friends can’t change his circumstances, what chance do we have as ‘regular’ people?

Enjoy life as much as you can… it is way too short, and you have far less control over it than you think you do.

RIP Steve Jobs… you will be missed, and know that you were admired and loved, and you will be long remembered, something we can all just hope for in the long run.

151 labman57  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 9:38:44pm

The man has had an incredible impact on modern American culture by making technology much more accessible, transforming how most of us get our information, listen to music, and interact with each other at a distance.
Rest in peace, Mr. Jobs.

152 Jaerik  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 10:51:59pm

Being a CEO isn’t about being the world’s best technical innovator. It’s not about being the world’s best marketing genius. It’s not about being the best at logistics, or the best at branding, or the best at engineering, or programming, or project management.

It’s about building companies. The ultimate goal of every CEO is to somehow position yourself at the right balance of all these disciplines to propel a company to success. That’s your job description.

In 14 years, Jobs took a company on the brink of bankruptcy and turned it into something that now routinely vies with Exxon Mobil for the crown of most valuable company in the world, and has become so ensconced in the public consciousness that practically everyone knows who they are and what they make.

And you know you’re in a completely different league of successful when the founding of Pixar and NeXT become mere footnotes on people’s (mostly Apple-centric) tributes.

And I think that’s what people are really celebrating him for. It’s why even his most ardent opponents are lining up to pen tributes to a legend, even when they may have spent the last 14 years wanting to back over him with their car.

153 RIRedinPA  Thu, Oct 6, 2011 5:33:06am

No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because death is very likely the single best invention of life. It’s life’s change agent; it clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now, the new is you. But someday, not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it’s quite true. Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice, heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become.

Steve Jobs

154 ಠ_ಠ  Thu, Oct 6, 2011 11:43:49am
“Remembering that I’ll be dead soon is the most important tool I’ve ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.” - Steve Jobs

At last, he’s been uploaded into the cloud.

155 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Oct 6, 2011 9:28:44pm

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

I beg to differ about there being no “Edison effect.” Thermionic emission used to be called the “Edison Effect.” Link.


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