Here’s a thread to keep up on breaking news from the Florida GOP primary election.
Currently, with 56% of the vote counted, it’s 48% for Romney vs. 31% for Gingrich. It’s going to be a landslide for Romney.
And that’s it — Associated Press just called the election for Mitt Romney. A decisive 17-point victory over Newt Gingrich.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:01:29pm |
Associated Press just called it for Mittens.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:01:38pm |
Have to make my rounds of the rwnj sites to collect tears before they crystallize. It's a crappy job, but beats trekking through the snowy woods with a sap bucket. BBIAB
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BongCrodny Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:02:52pm |
There's something ironic about me pissing away all that money in Las Vegas over the years, only to have that wingnut casino mogul give the money I pissed away to Newt Gingrich, who's also pissing it away.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:05:32pm |
At this point, the GOP electorate deserves exactly what they will get with either one, afaic.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:07:06pm |
Wow for the first time Romney is actually winning instead of just being able to divide and conquer the "Not Romney" vote.
Not that the "not Romney" vote had a lot of good places to go, but it is still impressive.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:08:54pm |
re: #6 Gus 802
Ron Paul can still win this!
//
Snoop Doggy Dogg just said so, so he's not a racist, either.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:10:05pm |
UGH. Newt keeps getting caught.
As the opportunist, that he is.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:10:09pm |
re: #7 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Snoop Doggy Dogg just said so, so he's not a racist, either.
If Snoop said so it must be true!
//
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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:10:25pm |
re: #3 BongCrodny
There's something ironic about me pissing away all that money in Las Vegas over the years, only to have that wingnut casino mogul give the money I pissed away to Newt Gingrich, who's also pissing it away.
Our economy depends on the never-ending cycle of pissed-away money.
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Targetpractice Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:11:01pm |
So, will Newt stay true to his promise to stay in til the convention? That remains to be seen.
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Charleston Chew Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:11:40pm |
I wonder if Santorum is hurting Gingrich. Are they splitting the not-Romney vote?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:11:44pm |
re: #10 Charleston Chew
Our economy depends on the never-ending cycle of pissed-away money.
A golden river of gold if you will...
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:11:53pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, will
NewtRon Paul stay true to his promise to stay in til the convention? That remains to be seen.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:12:00pm |
re: #12 Charleston Chew
I wonder if Santorum is hurting Gingrich. Are they splitting the not-Romney vote?
Yes.
That was easy to answer.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:13:04pm |
re: #3 BongCrodny
There's something ironic about me pissing away all that money in Las Vegas over the years, only to have that wingnut casino mogul give the money I pissed away to Newt Gingrich, who's also pissing it away.
I sense a theme here...
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BongCrodny Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:14:22pm |
re: #10 Charleston Chew
Our economy depends on the never-ending cycle of pissed-away money.
I am a patriot.
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Stanghazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:15:02pm |
re: #3 BongCrodny
There's something ironic about me pissing away all that money in Las Vegas over the years, only to have that wingnut casino mogul give the money I pissed away to Newt Gingrich, who's also pissing it away.
Classic
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Amory Blaine Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:21:26pm |
I don't think Gingrich is loving his country enough.
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Robert O. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:21:31pm |
It looks like Romney outbid Gingrich in the Florida GOP Primary auction.
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Interesting Times Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:22:05pm |
re: #3 BongCrodny
There's something ironic about me pissing away all that money in Las Vegas over the years, only to have that wingnut casino mogul give the money I pissed away to Newt Gingrich, who's also pissing it away.
Dana Loesch is intrigued by your ideas, and wishes to subscribe to your newsletter.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:23:28pm |
Hey Charles, if you're out there. I try to click on the page I posted earlier because I was thinking of adding stuff, but browser says "unable to connect" as if I've lost my internet connection. I am able to look at everybody else's pages.
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Robert O. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:24:10pm |
Looking at the county-by-county map, I also like the fact Ron Paul only got 4% in Miami-Dade. Neo-Nazi ideas doesn't poll well down there ;-)
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Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:25:00pm |
The lamestream media won tonight in Florida! They're in the tank with the GOP establishment in picking a Mormon socialist as our candidate!
/Freeper
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:26:00pm |
CNN exit poll: Romney won women 51/29
Not enough diamonds in Tiffany's to put Newt over.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:26:50pm |
re: #22 SpaceJesus
Hey Charles, if you're out there. I try to click on the page I posted earlier because I was thinking of adding stuff, but browser says "unable to connect" as if I've lost my internet connection. I am able to look at everybody else's pages.
This page?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Seems to work fine for me. Can you post a screenshot of the error message?
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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:30:13pm |
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Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:31:02pm |
Oh, this is so much fun. Here are the current numbers from Florida, per Google:
Mitt Romney 649,170 47.1%
Newt Gingrich 433,593 31.5%
Rick Santorum 181,555 13.2%
Ron Paul 95,158 6.9%
Other 18,750 1.4%
The freepers are blaming both Santorum and Paul for Newt losing, saying that they split the conservative vote and prevented a Real Conservative from beating the evil Mormon flip-flopper they all hate.
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Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:32:11pm |
I'm reading some right wing threads, Gingrich supporters are calling the Romney supporters 'communists'' as well as blaming Obama. Liberal plants!
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:33:37pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:33:58pm |
re: #30 mracb
I'm reading some right wing threads, Gingrich supporters are calling the Romney supporters 'communists'' as well as blaming Obama. Liberal plants!
I saw a mention on CNN that something like 70% in the exit polls are Tea Party supporters. The liberal plant theory ain't gonna wash.
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darthstar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:36:25pm |
So happy I'm busy drinking with co-workers tonight...can't get worked up about Romney or Gingrich.
Cheers, everyone.
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Lidane Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:37:13pm |
re: #32 Killgore Trout
I saw a mention on CNN that something like 70% in the exit polls are Tea Party supporters. The liberal plant theory ain't gonna wash.
That little tidbit has the webmaster at FR in a tizzy:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:37:45pm |
I wonder where the coveted Palin and Cain endorsements will land next.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:39:14pm |
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nines09 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:39:49pm |
Mitt is now blowing the dog whistles so loud and long my dog is crying.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:40:09pm |
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
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Robert O. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:41:29pm |
Note that Gingrich support in the Panhandle could be indicative how well he will continue to do in the "Old South" (recall the adage that in Florida, South is North, and North is South). I see that Gingrich is winning all the Panhandle apart from a liberal enclave in Tallahassee. Romney wins just about everywhere else that Democrats are expected to do well.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:42:21pm |
re: #37 Charles
"Internet Explorer cannot display this webpage"
It works from my phone. This is weird. All the other pages load ok
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nines09 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:43:18pm |
re: #40 jaunte
He's feeling it now. He's for real. It's on mofo. I'm waiting for his nose to just launch like a cruise missile.
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:44:51pm |
re: #42 SpaceJesus
My 2c worth
Clear IE's cache...
and or Firefox, Im confused as your image is from FF
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:45:25pm |
re: #42 SpaceJesus
"Internet Explorer cannot display this webpage"
It works from my phone. This is weird. All the other pages load ok
Have you tried clearing the cookies, plug-in data and caches, basically all the history? Sometimes that stuff will prevent pages from opening properly.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:45:56pm |
A few things strike me about Romney:
1) This sounds like he is accepting the Republican Nomination speech.
2) Romney isn't afraid to lie about the President. Not simply bend the truth, but flat out lie.
3) Romney treats Obama with absolutely no respect. A lot of it sounds like a personal animosity, which leaves me confused what it could be.
I'm not sure what's going on with Romney.
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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:46:36pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
They keep heading right until either the moderates break off or the religious so-con wingers break off and form a new party. That's the best case scenario. In a worse case, they languish out power until either the country shifts their way (by the reasonable people self-deporting, or something) or they modernize. They still have power in congress, so the end is not all that near.
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Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:46:46pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
Further right or split off to form a REAL conservative party is what they are thinking on FR and HA.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:46:55pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
I think they'll hold their noses and vote for electable Mitt, then keep a socon focus on local and institutional politics, affecting things like the Komen contributions to Planned Parenthood.
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wrenchwench Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:47:40pm |
re: #49 mracb
Further right or split off to form a REAL conservative party is what they are thinking on FR and HA.
OMG I think like a Freeper...
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:47:55pm |
re: #44 Alexzander
Ron Paul's trajectory is really deflating.
Yes and no. He didn't campaign at all in Florida. No chance for delegates so he didn't bother.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:48:03pm |
re: #42 SpaceJesus
"Internet Explorer cannot display this webpage"
It works from my phone. This is weird. All the other pages load ok
If you're connecting via a wireless router that does DNS caching, or if your broadband router/gateway does DNS caching, you might need to reset the router. I had this problem a lonnnngggg time ago, and it only affected a handful of sites, including LGF for some reason.
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:48:34pm |
re: #47 bloodstar
A few things strike me about Romney:
1) This sounds like he is accepting the Republican Nomination speech.
2) Romney isn't afraid to lie about the President. Not simply bend the truth, but flat out lie.
3) Romney treats Obama with absolutely no respect. A lot of it sounds like a personal animosity, which leaves me confused what it could be.I'm not sure what's going on with Romney.
He has this strange desire to win over the Christian right, tea-party part of America, which no matter what will never happen. They will never approve of Mormon Romney.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:48:39pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:50:21pm |
re: #50 jaunte
I think they'll hold their noses and vote for electable Mitt, then keep a socon focus on local and institutional politics, affecting things like the Komen contributions to Planned Parenthood.
I think you're probably correct. The religious right-conservative alliance is the most likely fall back position. It has Reagan era nostalgic appeal and the churches have a grass roots infrastructure that is already in place and functions a hell of a lot better than the Tea Party did.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:50:48pm |
Awww, the right-wing nutjobs are feeling bitter because their angry little attack muffin lost? Excuse me while I go...
*dance in the deliciously salty downpour of wingnut tears*
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:51:10pm |
re: #45 ozbloke
My 2c worth
Clear IE's cache...
also a tip many don't know or consider..Java is pretty much messed up..There are so many apps running different versions of Java on the web..
Go to Control panel..Click on Java..Clear all of it.. I've seen Enterprise Oracle stop on a dime..And clearing all your Java Cache can work miracles..
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prairiefire Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:51:26pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
I don't think the GOP is ready for a new strategy, yet. What I predicted 30 years ago with the rise of the Fundies is only now starting to fracture the party. The GOP has a strong propensity for denial.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:51:53pm |
Via ABC's Jon Karl, this is the sign behind which Gingrich will speak tonight.
46 States to Go
Major T. J. "Newt" Kong is determined to ride this bomb all the way down.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:52:10pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:52:21pm |
re: #58 CuriousLurker
Yeah, this night was a win-win for us no matter what happened. Enjoy your tofu, wingnuts.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:02pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
Nonexistence may be the destination. It is certainly a risk for them.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:09pm |
re: #56 Floral Giraffe
re: #47 bloodstar
re: #49 mracb
re: #50 jaunte
And the moderates will just hold their guts while they barf.
And know, that Obama will be President for another 4 years.
(Not that that is a bad thing...)
If the economy continues to limp along at a reasonable pace the moderates will stick with him. Despite the internet outrages I think the meat world conservatives will vote for Mitt. The liberals are a wild card. If Obama takes action against Iran or they get sucked into OWS radicalism they could bail and stay home on election day. Hard to tell.
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nines09 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:12pm |
Romney is not the Romney of Massachusetts fame. Somewhere he went off the rails just like the GOP/TP did. When you start to believe your own lies and deny your own past actions it's all over. Now it is no more than posturing and pontificating. A failed corrupt end to a failed corrupt party. The Clown Car Rolls On.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:23pm |
re: #61 jaunte
Via ABC's Jon Karl, this is the sign behind which Gingrich will speak tonight.
46 States to GoMajor T. J. "Newt" Kong is determined to ride this bomb all the way down.
Wow. It's so bad he's giving his speech from behind a sign?
/
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:26pm |
re: #61 jaunte
Via ABC's Jon Karl, this is the sign behind which Gingrich will speak tonight.
46 States to GoMajor T. J. "Newt" Kong is determined to ride this bomb all the way down.
I've said this several times. Newt holds a deep animosity towards the GOP; he feels like they basically threw him under the bus (which they did, but his treatment was more than deserved). In his mind it's a win win, if he can't win he'll just sabotage the race to try and create as much chaos as possible.
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Olsonist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:54:53pm |
My dog Newt is in it to win it. He's just going to come out with better more compelling ideas because that's the sort of transformational leader he is.
Newt. Get used to it.
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:55:16pm |
re: #50 jaunte
I think they'll hold their noses and vote for electable Mitt, then keep a socon focus on local and institutional politics, affecting things like the Komen contributions to Planned Parenthood.
There has been a very concerted effort to build a local level.
[Link: www.npr.org...]
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:55:27pm |
re: #69 Olsonist
UGH, do you believe that?
Dog is right...
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Interesting Times Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:55:46pm |
re: #60 prairiefire
I don't think the GOP is ready for a new strategy, yet. What I predicted 30 years ago with the rise of the Fundies is only now starting to fracture the party. The GOP has a strong propensity for denial.
They're beyond redemption at this point. The only hope is for them to experience death-by-demographic-shift.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:56:01pm |
re: #64 Rightwingconspirator
Nonexistence may be the destination. It is certainly a risk for them.
It's a possibility but unlikely. We have a two party system and there's no 3rd party in place to fill the void.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:56:45pm |
re: #73 Killgore Trout
And not YET enough disenfranchised voters to create a viable 3rd party.
YET.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:58:52pm |
re: #74 Floral Giraffe
The way the electoral system is setup makes it inherently hostile to third parties.
To have a multiparty system, there has to be heavy reform.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 5:59:16pm |
Can't believe it's 9pm on January 31st in NY and it's 57°.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:01:05pm |
re: #76 JasonA
Even though I'm in Texas, I still feel like I got cheated out of winter this year. Grumble.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:01:44pm |
re: #73 Killgore Trout
It's a possibility but unlikely. We have a two party system and there's no 3rd party in place to fill the void.
What makes me think it's possible (note I stay well short of "likely") is those millions of indies, who are just waiting for a party or personality to coalesce around. It's a third party in waiting.
It's a majority in waiting.
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Interesting Times Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:02:15pm |
re: #76 JasonA
Can't believe it's 9pm on January 31st in NY and it's 57°.
On a related note:
Dry lakefront Texas town gets water trucked in
Tanker trucks loaded with water have become the lifeline for a Texas lakefront village that came precariously close to becoming the state's first community to run out of drinking water during a historic drought.
...
For more than a year, nearly the entire state of Texas has been in some stage of severe or exceptional drought. Rain has been so scarce that lakes across the state turned into pools of mud. One town near Waco, Groesbeck, bought water from a rock quarry and built a seven-mile pipeline through a state park to get water. Some communities on Lake Travis moved their intake pipes into deeper water. And Houston started getting water from an alternative, farther away reservoir when Lake Houston ran too low.
It's because they didn't pray hard enough /
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:02:56pm |
re: #77 negativ
Even though I'm in Texas, I still feel like I got cheated out of winter this year. Grumble.
No winter. No water. Someone really has it in for you guys...
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:03:07pm |
re: #54 SpaceJesus
no dice. i'll just do it from my phone i guess
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Olsonist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:03:10pm |
re: #74 Floral Giraffe
And not YET enough disenfranchised voters to create a viable 3rd party.
YET.
I don't think third parties are actually viable on their own. Proportional representation and parlaments certainly allow multiple parties but our winner take all system all but guarantees two parties. The existing two parties also protect that turf against third parties.
So the Tea Party isn't a real party but rather an unofficial part of the Republican Party. Instead, I think the Republicans will fracture and stay out of power. Kind of a time out. Then they'll cool down. Rinse, repeat.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:03:17pm |
re: #76 JasonA
Yes. Check this out...
Highway 2 west of Wrightwood is open in January, for the first time in many years.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:03:47pm |
Lest we forget,
First, there is a challenge against the Winner take all in Florida. (since Florida is in violation of RNC rules by awarding the delegates winner take all when their primary is prior to April 1st)
Second, Romney has won a whopping 7% of the total number of delegates he needs to win the Republican Nomination even with Florida winner take all.
Third, while Romney can try to project a sense of inevitability, he still hasn't managed to claim support from the conservative wing.
Everyone else can think this is over, certainly Romney wants it to be over. But it's not. Not by a long shot.
Now, if Romney has a convincing win on super Tuesday, then... yeah, it's over.
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:04:34pm |
So, does Santorum (whom I believe as nutty as he is, has his head fastened much more securely to his body than Newt) stay in the race? My guess is he'll back out.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:05:28pm |
re: #76 JasonA
Can't believe it's 9pm on January 31st in NY and it's 57°.
70 degrees in Oklahoma today..Just a perfect day..
I know this much living here since 2010.
There is Hell coming soon..I've seen it all..Something bad is going to happen..
The Weather is completely unpredictable here
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Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:05:39pm |
re: #83 Rightwingconspirator
Yes. Check this out...
Highway 2 west of Wrightwood is open in January, for the first time in many years.
The California Department of Water Resources (DWR) will conduct this winter’s second snow survey on February 1st. Electronic readings today indicate that water content in the statewide snowpack is just 38-percent of normal.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:05:59pm |
re: #79 publicityStunted
Nah, they're praying to the wrong gods & don't know it!
//sorta
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:04pm |
re: #81 SpaceJesus
no dice. i'll just do it from my phone i guess
Maybe you could try to re install it. If not, try Chrome, I love it.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:06:29pm |
re: #86 HoosierHoops
Mother Nature is preparing to violate us. I feel the same.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:07:34pm |
re: #65 Killgore Trout
If the economy continues to limp along at a reasonable pace the moderates will stick with him. Despite the internet outrages I think the meat world conservatives will vote for Mitt. The liberals are a wild card. If Obama takes action against Iran or they get sucked into OWS radicalism they could bail and stay home on election day. Hard to tell.
It'd be silly/foolish of Obama to make any sort of overt move on Iran before the election unless they directly attack us first, and I really don't see him likely to do it. Also given how Mitt Romney is Mr. 1% (well more like Mr. 0.06%) why would any self respecting OWS supporter turn down a chance to vote against him?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:08:41pm |
re: #85 tacuba14
Part of me wants him to get the nomination, so that when he loses to Obama, the wingnuts can't pull that "He wasn't conservative enough" whiny crap they delude themselves with.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:08:50pm |
Santorum's shot at Gingrich: "We can't allow the candidate to become an issue." Because that whole "spreading santorum" thing isn't an issue, and Santorum's bizarre far right beliefs aren't an issue.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:08:53pm |
re: #82 Olsonist
I don't think third parties are actually viable on their own. Proportional representation and parlaments certainly allow multiple parties but our winner take all system all but guarantees two parties. The existing two parties protect that turf against third parties.
So the Tea Party isn't a real party but rather an unofficial part of the Republican Party. Instead, I think the Republicans will fracture and stay out of power. Kind of a time out. Then they'll cool down. Rinse, repeat.
Reading the rw blogs, you will find the brighter of the commenters start to realize there never was a Tea Party.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:09:43pm |
Nate Silver:
Florida's Perfect Track Record
Since the modern nomination process began in 1972, the Republican candidate who won Florida has won the party nomination all 10 times.
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:10:08pm |
OT: There is an interesting clip of Irshad Manji (who is a Canadian muslim woman scholar and author) on Roland Martin Reports from yesterday. It can be found here.
[Link: rolandmartinreports.com...]
She discusses the difference between domestic violence and honour killings and makes a clear distinction. One similar to the distinction I drew yesterday. I have a lot of respect for Ms. Manji and have followed her writing for many years. She is a devout, moderate muslim struggling to regain the narrative for what it means to be Muslim. She has in the last few years become increasingly alarmist about an increase in radicalism amongst muslims, fostered primarily by Saudi money.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:10:18pm |
re: #86 HoosierHoops
70 degrees in Oklahoma today..Just a perfect day..
I know this much living here since 2010.
There is Hell coming soon..I've seen it all..Something bad is going to happen..
The Weather is completely unpredictable here
Holy crap, it's been that long?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:11:00pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:12:04pm |
re: #81 SpaceJesus
no dice. i'll just do it from my phone i guess
Power cycle all the devices between your computer and the intertubes. Router, modem, etc. Pull power for 30 seconds, then plug them back in. Or don't.
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Kragar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:12:10pm |
Its like the endorsements of Palin and Cain meant nothing. How could this be?
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:12:11pm |
By the way for anyone looking for a reason to pat me on the back, I just finished up beating kf-Crash and have now beaten every single non fan level of Killing Floor on normal, and I did Crash all my own from start to Patriarch.
Now on to figuring out how to survive hard mode and collecting some more achievements!
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:12:43pm |
Intrade has Mitt Romney trending up tonight. Him and President Obama.
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:12:50pm |
re: #98 Charles
Gingrich's aura is very spiky tonight.
Gingrich has always kind of had that aura. Always on the defense, always the victim, very mercurial.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:13:04pm |
Gingrich now summoning up the shade of Abraham Lincoln.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:14:00pm |
re: #90 ProLifeLiberal
Mother Nature is preparing to violate us. I feel the same.
It's coming my brother..The weather here surprised me...This week is going to be awesome...But..Hell is coming on a pale horse..It's Oklahoma.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:14:12pm |
re: #106 Charles
Gingrich now summoning up the shade of Abraham Lincoln.
So that he can rip it to shreds for the audience?
(Just guessing from what I've heard not much love left for Lincoln in his party....)
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:14:22pm |
re: #106 Charles
Gingrich now summoning up the shade of Abraham Lincoln.
Is Newt still pissed about Lincoln and that Sherman thing?
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:15:19pm |
@Art_Guy1
Gingrich's "people's campaign' financed by a Las Vegas casino owner
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:16:09pm |
re: #97 JasonA
Holy crap, it's been that long?
I ended up moving here around Oct. 1st 2010. Around a year and a half now..Dang time just flies by..
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:16:18pm |
Andy Borowitz @BorowitzReport
Gingrich is right - he's EXACTLY like Abraham Lincoln, except for the whole liking Black people thing.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:16:48pm |
re: #91 jamesfirecat
It'd be silly/foolish of Obama to make any sort of overt move on Iran before the election unless they directly attack us first, and I really don't see him likely to do it.
It depends. At some point we are going to have to decide to allow a nuclear Iran or stop it. If that point arrives in the next year Obama's going to have to make a decision.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:17:15pm |
Thoughts on Gingrich:
1) He's a little more subdued. He's got his mania reigned in a bit. So now it comes across as passionate rather than crazed.
2) Gingrich has decided to double down on the populist theme. Which is interesting and the irony knows no bounds.
3) He's going after the President, but not with the same venom as Romney.
4) He's also holding off full fire on Romney too.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:17:23pm |
re: #113 HoosierHoops
I ended up moving here around Oct. 1st 2010. Around a year and a half now..Dang time just flies by..
Haven't been on much the last couple weeks--sorry to hear about your dad.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:17:27pm |
@AriBerman
Newt's advocacy of Citizens United led to the Super PACs that destroyed his Florida campaign
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:17:35pm |
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Olsonist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:18:15pm |
re: #115 Killgore Trout
It depends. At some point we are going to have to decide to allow a nuclear Iran or stop it. If that point arrives in the next year Obama's going to have to make a decision.
Yes, because choices always come in twos.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:19:07pm |
re: #120 Olsonist
Yes, because choices always come in twos.
What's the third choice?
Nuclear Iran: Yes/No/ ??
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:19:08pm |
re: #120 Olsonist
Yes, because choices always come in twos.
Do or do not. There is no try.
/some small green dude
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engineer cat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:19:30pm |
romney stump speech
presnobama wants an american where puppies need the approval of gummint bureaucrats to play in the grass! presonobama wants to take away our good old american hamburgers and make us eat fois gras! presobama wants to make us lie down in the middle of the road and let muslims with smelly beards trample over us!
well i tell you mitt romney is not gonna let this happen! (cheers!) if you allow me to serve we'll have the old america back, the america where little children can eat hamburgers and fries in peace again. an america where puppies are allowed to run free again. an america that honors and worships santa claus once more and the padlocks are finally taken off of the churches and synagogues all across this nation and americans are allowed pray in peace and freedom once again!!! and, if you vote for me, i *promise* - that america will once again trample ruthlessly over our enemies, whoever we decide them to be, and tell the rest of the world what they have to do
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Kragar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:19:46pm |
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CuriousLurker Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:19:54pm |
The only thing I'm 100% sure of, as I said back in September of last year, is that the GOP establishment is deeply entrenched and has a lot to lose. They may not be as loud as the Tea Party insurgents & knuckle-dragging fundies, but they're cunning and aren't averse to knifing their own in the back. Anyone who thinks they're just going to roll over and give up power without a fight is kidding themselves.
Anyway, interesting exit poll results here if no one has posted them yet (I haven't read through all the comments).
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:21:51pm |
Newt announcing Obama admin. 'war' on the Catholic Church. How is this man taken seriously?
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:22:18pm |
For those who don't have access to a TV, here's a link to a live feed on CNN.
[Link: www.justin.tv...]
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:22:24pm |
re: #115 Killgore Trout
It depends. At some point we are going to have to decide to allow a nuclear Iran or stop it. If that point arrives in the next year Obama's going to have to make a decision.
Allow a Nuclear Iran.
That's my opinion after all how else can we honestly justify all the money we spend on anti ICBM technology if we don't use it as a reason to accept people we don't like having nukes rather than premptively conquering them.
At least that is my opinion as an American who is very far away from Iran's nukes.
If Israel cares to act differently then they can go ahead and do it, but America shouldn't ever start wars....
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:22:43pm |
Is he running for President or for Emperor?
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aagcobb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:23:00pm |
re: #74 Floral Giraffe
And not YET enough disenfranchised voters to create a viable 3rd party.
YET.
The two parties always eventually shift to where the voters are. That's why we have had the same two major parties for over 150 years. As the current GOP voters die off, the GOP will eventually produce candidates who can connect to the voters of their era and win elections.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:23:34pm |
"...my wife, my fortune, and my sacred honor..."
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:23:38pm |
re: #130 tacuba14
I have access to a tv, I just don't have cable. Or dish. Fuck 'em.
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BongCrodny Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:23:42pm |
re: #125 CuriousLurker
The only thing I'm 100% sure of, as I said back in September of last year, is that the GOP establishment is deeply entrenched and has a lot to lose. They may not be as loud as the Tea Party insurgents & knuckle-dragging fundies, but they're cunning and aren't averse to knifing their own in the back. Anyone who thinks they're just going to roll over and give up power without a fight is kidding themselves.
Anyway, interesting exit poll results here if no one has posted them yet (I haven't read through all the comments).
It's pretty amazing that Mitt won *all* financial categories: "Getting Ahead," "Holding Steady" and "Falling Behind."
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:23:59pm |
re: #121 bloodstar
What's the third choice?
Nuclear Iran: Yes/No/ ??
Yes/No/Ambiguity/Denial
Iran would be the first to declare a nuclear force in the Middle East.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:24:10pm |
re: #117 Decatur Deb
Haven't been on much the last couple weeks--sorry to hear about your dad.
Thanks.. He was a special man..
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:24:28pm |
re: #131 jamesfirecat
I agreed until the last sentence.
If a Government starts acting like Qaddafi's did last year, and we can yet support on the international stage and the UN, we should go off to war. In fact, if Russia and China approved, I wouldn't horribly mind a Turko-American Invasion of Syria.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:24:50pm |
re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth
I have access to a tv, I just don't have cable. Or dish. Fuck 'em.
Same here. Just basic basic cable, and only becuase it's part of the package with hi-speed internet access.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:25:05pm |
Gingrich: "I will sign an executive order repealing every anti-religious act of the Obama administration, as of that moment."
Woo hoo. Gingrich is going all the way out tonight.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:25:51pm |
re: #141 CuriousLurker
Same here. Just basic basic cable, and only becuase it's part of the package with hi-speed internet access.
SPLITTER!!!
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CuriousLurker Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:26:16pm |
re: #137 BongCrodny
It's pretty amazing that Mitt won *all* financial categories: "Getting Ahead," "Holding Steady" and "Falling Behind."
Yeah, I was surprised at that.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:26:36pm |
re: #94 Decatur Deb
Reading the rw blogs, you will find the brighter of the commenters start to realize there never was a Tea Party.
Takes some people longer to realize they got played...
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:26:53pm |
Gingrich also pledged to move the US embassy to Jerusalem on his FIRST DAY as President.
Looney tunes.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:27:11pm |
re: #140 ProLifeLiberal
I agreed until the last sentence.
If a Government starts acting like Qaddafi's did last year, and we can yet support on the international stage and the UN, we should go off to war. In fact, if Russia and China approved, I wouldn't horribly mind a Turko-American Invasion of Syria.
I would support stuff like that also actually, to me that's doesn't so much count as starting a war as stepping into an already existing civil war. It's stuff like the Invasion of Iraq that I really can't stand.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:27:58pm |
re: #131 jamesfirecat
Allow a Nuclear Iran.
To my mind this is like worrying about your neighbour building a musket when you've got an assault weapon. They might get a shot off. They might even hit something. Then you rock and roll and that's the end of that problem.
I hope it doesn't come to that though. I believe it won't. The mullahs of Iran may be crazy and evil but they are not suicidal.
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:28:32pm |
re: #142 Charles
Gingrich: "I will sign an executive order repealing every anti-religious act of the Obama administration, as of that moment."
Woo hoo. Gingrich is going all the way out tonight.
I was kind of surprised that he didn't say he would sign an executive order reconstituting the Templar Knights to wage war against the godless heathens.
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engineer cat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:28:37pm |
re: #142 Charles
Gingrich: "I will sign an executive order repealing every anti-religious act of the Obama administration, as of that moment."
obama had no right, no right at all to revoke the edict of nantes!
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aagcobb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:29:35pm |
re: #140 ProLifeLiberal
I agreed until the last sentence.
If a Government starts acting like Qaddafi's did last year, and we can yet support on the international stage and the UN, we should go off to war. In fact, if Russia and China approved, I wouldn't horribly mind a Turko-American Invasion of Syria.
I would. We just got out of Iraq! Fortunately, we have President Obama, who I'm sure knows better than to get us into yet another nation building quagmire.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:29:47pm |
re: #148 jamesfirecat
Okay, I see how you think of it.
I also fully know that this sort of policy would bring the US military to weird places. (Hi Zimbabwe).
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:30:28pm |
Gingrich speaks like a man who has no clue, or is in complete denial of his own history. He does a pretty good job at ignoring reality as well, kind of sociopathic behavior.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:30:33pm |
Gingrich: "I will sign an executive order repealing every anti-religious act of the Obama administration, as of that moment."
Noodley appendages will be back on the school lunch menu, instanter.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:30:38pm |
re: #131 jamesfirecat
Allow a Nuclear Iran.
Probably not wise. An unstable oppressive theocracy openly supporting terrorist organisations like hamas and hezbollah. Obama probably won't allow it and Israel is even less likely to tolerate it.
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:30:40pm |
re: #142 Charles
Gingrich: "I will sign an executive order repealing every anti-religious act of the Obama administration, as of that moment."
Woo hoo. Gingrich is going all the way out tonight.
Such as?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:31:04pm |
EVERYBODY SHUT UP!!! Uncle Paul is talking.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:31:20pm |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
If they want it, it'll happen eventually.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:31:24pm |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Israel will find a way to stop it.
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engineer cat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:31:54pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:32:04pm |
re: #160 Obdicut
Maybe, but it might be over Israel's dead body.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:32:08pm |
re: #150 Petero1818
I waskind of surprised that he didn't say he would sign an executive order reconstituting the Templar Knights to wage war against the godless heathens.
No need. We'll just provide the Papal Guard with a force de frappe. IIRC the Vatican has not signed any non-proliferation treaties.
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:32:09pm |
Is that the standard to always call and congratulate the opponents when they win? Should I think anything better of R. Paul for calling Romney?
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aagcobb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:32:48pm |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Probably not wise. An unstable oppressive theocracy openly supporting terrorist organisations like hamas and hezbollah. Obama probably won't allow it and Israel is even less likely to tolerate it.
If the choice is a nuclear Iran or invasion and occupation, I'm betting Obama accepts a nuclear Iran. We'd have to bring back the draft to have enough troops to occupy Iran. it'd make Iraq look like a garden party.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:10pm |
re: #152 aagcobb
I see your point.
However, I tend to be very concentrated on Human Rights. I don't know if you were here last year, but in February I was openly stating that I wanted an attack on Qaddafi within a week of his attacks on his own people with Fighters and Helicopters.
To put it simply, I see war as a completely legitimate way to end massive human rights violations.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:12pm |
Oh yeah. Ron Paul. You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:14pm |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Probably not wise. An unstable oppressive theocracy openly supporting terrorist organisations like hamas and hezbollah. Obama probably won't allow it and Israel is even less likely to tolerate it.
How wise it is all comes down to what the other options are.
Is it possible to keep Iran from becoming nuclear without causing/starting an all out war, and if so how?
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:18pm |
re: #163 Floral Giraffe
Maybe, but it might be over Israel's dead body.
I'm sorry, are you saying you think Israel would fight total war with Iran in order to stop them acquiring a nuke?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:42pm |
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engineer cat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:45pm |
santorum, gingrich, and paul:
don't be fooled by mitt winning in new hampshire and florida! we're wingnuts and we laugh - laugh! - at mere facts and numbers
| 175 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:33:54pm |
re: #166 SpaceJesus
Heh. Bowtied beardo. I just don't see how Paul appeals to so many young people.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:34:14pm |
re: #142 Charles
Gingrich: "I will sign an executive order repealing every anti-religious act of the Obama administration, as of that moment."
Woo hoo. Gingrich is going all the way out tonight.
People are most dangerous when they feel there's nothing more to lose.
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:34:32pm |
re: #175 Slumbering Behemoth
Heh. Bowtied beardo. I just don't see how Paul appeals to so many young people.
2 words. Legalize it.
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:34:56pm |
re: #169 Charles
Oh yeah. Ron Paul. You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Just be careful the imagination doesn't run away with you.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:35:05pm |
re: #171 Obdicut
Not to mention that Iran is having a huge number of problems economically, and that the government itself is split between Ahmadinejad and Khameini.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:35:10pm |
I like how Paul is severely out-dressed by the 20 year olds around him
Crazy grandpa just does not give a shit
| 181 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:35:16pm |
Carefully chosen late-teenagers seen behind Ron Paul. A coincidence, I'm sure.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:35:57pm |
re: #168 ProLifeLiberal
I see your point.
However, I tend to be very concentrated on Human Rights. I don't know if you were here last year, but in February I was openly stating that I wanted an attack on Qaddafi within a week of his attacks on his own people with Fighters and Helicopters.
To put it simply, I see war as a completely legitimate way to end massive human rights violations.
A trip to your friendly recruiter could solve a lot of your issues.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:36:54pm |
re: #182 Decatur Deb
Not in my case:
Asperger's Syndrome disqualifies you for military service. I looked it up a few years ago.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:37:05pm |
re: #177 Petero1818
2 words. Legalize it.
But he never actually said that. Is that one of those imagination locks we need a key for?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:37:07pm |
re: #171 Obdicut
I'm sorry, are you saying you think Israel would fight total war with Iran in order to stop them acquiring a nuke?
Targeted missile strikes is the best idea I got. Maybe the brainiacs in the Pentagon have better ideas.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:37:09pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
Brain-Dead Teen, Only Capable Of Rolling Eyes And Texting, To Be Euthanized
Hoping that was the Onion while hitting the link.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:38:16pm |
I hope that once Romney officially has it locked up, the pretenders on the hard right (Newt, Paul, et al) get the message and give it up. If they choose not to, they show beyond any doubt that they are not builders, but destroyers. And in my book, that makes them unworthy of any respect.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:38:33pm |
re: #179 ProLifeLiberal
If Syria falls, Iran could get interesting.
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:38:37pm |
re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth
But he never actually said that. Is that one of those imagination locks we need a key for?
yes it unlocks the doors of perception.
| 191 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:38:40pm |
Ron Paul: "Don't you think it's time we had a NEW monetary policy?" By which he means the utterly discredited, extremely OLD gold standard.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:38:59pm |
re: #186 Killgore Trout
Targeted missile strikes is the best idea I got. Maybe the brainiacs in the Pentagon have better ideas.
Doesn't matter what you do, you can't hold back a technological advance forever. You can delay it. I'm frankly surprised that no working warhead from the USSR have actually been sold. Maybe they have, and we don't know it.
The nuclear genie is not going back in the bottle.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:39:33pm |
re: #188 _RememberTonyC
I hope that once Romney officially has it locked up, the pretenders on the hard right (Newt, Paul, et al) get the message and give it up. If they choose not to, they show beyond any doubt that they are not builders, but destroyers. And in my book, that makes them unworthy of any respect.
Did the hard right learn that lesson when John McCain beat them four years ago?
They aren't gonna learn anything till they get to run their dream candidate and the democrats clean their clock.... and it might need to happen a few times to make it stick.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:39:45pm |
re: #191 Charles
Ron Paul: "Don't you think it's time we had a NEW monetary policy?" By which he means the utterly discredited, extremely OLD gold standard.
Yep. Too true.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:40:14pm |
re: #192 Obdicut
Doesn't matter what you do, you can't hold back a technological advance forever. You can delay it. I'm frankly surprised that no working warhead from the USSR have actually been sold. Maybe they have, and we don't know it.
The nuclear genie is not going back in the bottle.
Now we are all sons of bitches.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:40:33pm |
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:40:56pm |
"It's up to us to do something about it!"
"Let's go spam some more internet polls!"
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:41:03pm |
Something tells me that if someone suggested 18th century politician duals to settle issues, a la Burr-Hamilton, Ron Paul would be on board with that. Clearly, whatever the forefathers did should still be followed today.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:41:11pm |
re: #191 Charles
Ron Paul: "Don't you think it's time we had a NEW monetary policy?" By which he means the utterly discredited, extremely OLD gold standard.
I'd like to propose a new term: "paleoscumbag." Luap and buchanan are the poster boys.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:41:54pm |
re: #192 Obdicut
The only justifiable use of a Nuke right now is if we find a civilization-damaging/ending Asteroid or Comet heading for Earth.
And only because we have no alternative right now.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:42:03pm |
re: #198 tacuba14
Something tells me that if someone suggested 18th century politician duals to settle issues, a la Burr-Hamilton, Ron Paul would be on board with that. Clearly, whatever the forefathers did should still be followed today.
Never mind that the last big one took Alexander Hamilton but left Aaron Burr.
Definitely, it did not establish who actually had honor.
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:42:42pm |
Heh. Maybe we can stop Iran from getting a nuke long enough for AGW to destroy world civilization, if we're really into Pyrrhic victories now.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:43:09pm |
re: #193 jamesfirecat
Did the hard right learn that lesson when John McCain beat them four years ago?
They aren't gonna learn anything till they get to run their dream candidate and the democrats clean their clock... and it might need to happen a few times to make it stick.
but if their guys can't even get the nomination of their OWN party, that is a pretty strong rejection of their proposals.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:43:16pm |
I think words can't even express what a terrible president Ron Paul would make. I mean damn I dislike Romney quite a bit but he'd be better than Paul.
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Olsonist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:44:06pm |
re: #192 Obdicut
We were in there muy pronto buying stuff up. And there was competition but we had some smart people who were prepared for this eventuality. It happened in the Clinton administration but it was doubtlessly gamed ahead of time.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:44:41pm |
re: #195 jamesfirecat
Now we are all sons of bitches.
Nice reference to The Manhattan Project (which John Lithgow and John Mahoney [Dad Crane in Frasier] were very good in).
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:44:47pm |
re: #201 EmmmieG
Never mind that the last big one took Alexander Hamilton but left Aaron Burr.
Definitely, it did not establish who actually had honor.
It could also complicate Rand Paul's career--KY prohibits anyone who fights a duel from holding public office.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:44:52pm |
thing is no one will ever be "conservative" enough for the hard right. If Newt was winning tonight and the frontrunner, there would be many calling Newt a moderate or whatever. There's no satisfying them because the hard right of the Republican party are purists who don't understand how government works at all.
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RealityBasedSteve Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:45:16pm |
re: #35 Lidane
That little tidbit has the webmaster at FR in a tizzy:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
I've been having great fun watching them self destruct over in freeper land. Now the spin is that this was a tactical victory for Gingrich, since Romney didn't get over 50 percent of the vote.
They are also bitching about all the outside money that was spent on ads by Romney, forgetting of course, that is the direct result of the Citizens United decision, which they fully approved of.
I think some of them need to be on a suicide watch.
RBS
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:46:47pm |
re: #187 Decatur Deb
Hoping that was the Onion while hitting the link.
Cedar Mill, Oregon! I know where that is.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:46:53pm |
re: #198 tacuba14
Something tells me that if someone suggested 18th century politician duals to settle issues, a la Burr-Hamilton, Ron Paul would be on board with that. Clearly, whatever the forefathers did should still be followed today.
Don't be so hard on Uncle Ron. He missed the Burr-Hamilton duel by only a scant few minutes due to a faulty buggy whip. Incidentally, that's another once thriving industry that has been choked by evil gov't regulations, regulations which he'll repeal.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:46:59pm |
re: #131 jamesfirecat
The best chance to stop Iran was squandered away when NK set off not one but supposedly two real atomic warheads without immediate military consequences. There should be a sanctions blog.
Oh wait there already is one....
Non proliferation or not is literally life or death for millions. Saudi will get the bomb if Iran does.
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:47:56pm |
re: #209 RealityBasedSteve
I've been having great fun watching them self destruct over in freeper land. Now the spin is that this was a tactical victory for Gingrich, since Romney didn't get over 50 percent of the vote.
They are also bitching about all the outside money that was spent on ads by Romney, forgetting of course, that is the direct result of the Citizens United decision, which they fully approved of.
I think some of them need to be on a suicide watch.
RBS
They were all on a stupidity watch, but it was abandoned when it became obvious there was no stopping them.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:48:30pm |
re: #203 _RememberTonyC
but if their guys can't even get the nomination of their OWN party, that is a pretty strong rejection of their proposals.
They'll just get angrier and drag their party further right. At least that is what my money is on.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:48:34pm |
Which state has the next primary out of curiously?
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:49:07pm |
And here is some news from the Times of London:
The Times of London reports that a secret NATO report claims that the Taliban, backed by Pakistan, is set to regain control over Afghanistan after international forces withdraw from the country.
Iran's an issue, but not nearly as big of one as Pakistan. Pakistan has nukes, and is massively unstable and aggressive.
The best way to deal with Pakistan is probably to peal it apart. Help out the UAE, India, and Russia in getting Balochistan pealed off of Pakistan for a start.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:49:32pm |
re: #215 HappyWarrior
Which state has the next primary out of curiously?
Bunch (3-4) caucus states coming up quickly.
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Kragar Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:49:48pm |
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:50:11pm |
re: #215 HappyWarrior
Which state has the next primary out of curiously?
I do believe each state has to have a primary, curious or not.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:50:16pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
Brain-Dead Teen, Only Capable Of Rolling Eyes And Texting, To Be Euthanized
My teenage daughter did not find this funny, by the way.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:51:06pm |
re: #214 jamesfirecat
They'll just get angrier and drag their party further right. At least that is what my money is on.
then they'll be forever in the political fringe ..... their decision I suppose ...
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:51:20pm |
re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Not surprised Levin would say that but I think Romney is just being a partisan hack here. It would be nice if Mitt were goddamn honest for once but that's asking too much from him.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:51:44pm |
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palomino Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:52:29pm |
re: #55 tacuba14
He has this strange desire to win over the Christian right, tea-party part of America, which no matter what will never happen. They will never approve of Mormon Romney.
Totally true, but Romney is white (and not Kenyan or Muslim), so the base may eventually hold its collective nose and vote for Romney in the general. It's what he's counting on with this line of no-respect attacks on Obama.
Mitt tried the "Obama is a decent man, I just disagree with him on important issues" line a few months back. The base hated hearing such reasonable and respectful language used about Obama, so now Mitt's telling them what they want to hear. Mitt stands for nothing, so he'll do anything to win. FL is just more proof.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:52:32pm |
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:52:37pm |
re: #215 HappyWarrior
Which state has the next primary out of curiously?
Nevada and Maine both caucus on the 4th (though Maine's is weird, in that it's strung over a week).
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:52:37pm |
re: #222 _RememberTonyC
then they'll be forever in the political fringe ... their decision I suppose ...
Can't happen soon enough for me, the modern day GOP needs to go the way of Whigs so that something more sane and responsible can take its place.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:53:12pm |
re: #222 _RememberTonyC
Did you watch media day at Indy?
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:53:49pm |
re: #228 jamesfirecat
Can't happen soon enough for me, the modern day GOP needs to go the way of Whigs so that something more sane and responsible can take its place.
Like the Rich White Guys Greed Party.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:54:26pm |
re: #221 Stanley Sea
I love the sane GOP.
There are a few out there that act like adults. But the board doesn't really care for ANY Republicans at the moment. So hopefully the saner among them coalesce around Romney and steer the party towards the center. It's about more than just the 2012 election, it's about the viability of a great political party for the next generation, if not longer.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:54:46pm |
Wait--are there Democrat primaries even happening?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:55:06pm |
I think the GOP needs to adapt to reality. Don't know how they're going to do that by thinking that anti government yet hardcore social conservationism is a winning formula. I mean hot damn I saw the other day that Newt was bashing In Vitro fertilization. Really Newt you complain about IVF and yet have the nerve to complain about "big government." Get the fuck out.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:55:53pm |
re: #229 HoosierHoops
Did you watch media day at Indy?
off and on .... you and me are enemies this week :)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:55:56pm |
I see that there are votes in for Bachmann, Huntsman, and Cain. Were these early votes?
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Kronocide Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:56:49pm |
re: #232 EmmmieG
Wait--are there Democrat primaries even happening?
I don't know. But I sure seems like Obama will crush the GOP this time around and Hillary will have a very good shot right after. She'll have an immense amount of experience to run on too.
Instead of worrying about who the next Ronnie will be they need to look at their politics. I also think the demographic will change.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:57:23pm |
re: #231 _RememberTonyC
There are a few out there that act like adults. But the board doesn't really care for ANY Republicans at the moment. So hopefully the saner among them coalesce around Romney and steer the party towards the center. It's about more than just the 2012 election, it's about the viability of a great political party for the next generation, if not longer.
Sorry but Romney can't be the savior of the GOP. His political stances have been compromised by his large number of flip flops to the point that it is impossible to take what he says to be what he actually believes.
At least that is my opinion.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:57:37pm |
re: #235 EmmmieG
I see that there are votes in for Bachmann, Huntsman, and Cain. Were these early votes?
Some were showing when 7% were tallied. FL had hundreds of thousands of absentee and early votes.
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FreedomMoon Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:57:43pm |
Here is Mittens trying put some life into his soulless existence campaign, singing America the beautiful. Obama beats him hands down.
Romney singing
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:58:34pm |
re: #234 _RememberTonyC
off and on ... you and me are enemies this week :)
Yes we are.. The Pats have broke my heart so many times..I hate them..4th and 2 my bro.. Good luck Sunday...
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:59:04pm |
re: #236 BigPapa
I don't know. But I sure seems like Obama will crush the GOP this time around and Hillary will have a very good shot right after. She'll have an immense amount of experience to run on too.
Instead of worrying about who the next Ronnie will be they need to look at their politics. I also think the demographic will change.
That's the problem if you ask me. All of them want to be the next Reagan and I have to say this, none of them are, Reagan for all his failings was a guy who ran on optimism and furthermore the country is different in 2012 than 1980. Asking the so-cons to evaluate their policies is like telling a small child they're wrong. They think the problem is they're not conservative enough which is laughable as things like gay marriage become more acceptable to the populace. It to me is not unlike the Democratic New Dealers who refused to adapt to the world after the New Deal.
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engineer cat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:59:06pm |
re: #233 HappyWarrior
I think the GOP needs to adapt to reality. Don't know how they're going to do that by thinking that anti government yet hardcore social conservationism is a winning formula. I mean hot damn I saw the other day that Newt was bashing In Vitro fertilization. Really Newt you complain about IVF and yet have the nerve to complain about "big government." Get the fuck out.
they want to get rid of big government - and replace it with the spanish inquisition
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 6:59:24pm |
re: #236 BigPapa
I don't know. But I sure seems like Obama will crush the GOP this time around and Hillary will have a very good shot right after. She'll have an immense amount of experience to run on too.
Instead of worrying about who the next Ronnie will be they need to look at their politics. I also think the demographic will change.
Palin vs. Clinton might be fun. Its difficult for men to go after Palin in a debate without seeming like an a dick. Hillary could could shred her to pieces and she wouldn't even know it happened.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:00:13pm |
re: #242 engineer dog
they want to get rid of big government - and replace it with the spanish inquisition
Exactly. It's like you can't rail against big government while doing what these guys especially diehard socons like Santorum are doing.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:00:31pm |
re: #243 Petero1818
Palin vs. Clinton might be fun. Its difficult for men to go after Palin in a debate without seeming like an a dick. Hillary could could shred her to pieces and she wouldn't even know it happened.
Some chance that could happen in the VP debate.
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:00:40pm |
re: #242 engineer dog
they want to get rid of big government - and replace it with the spanish inquisition
OMG, the comfy chair!
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:01:05pm |
re: #245 Decatur Deb
Some chance that could happen in the VP debate.
I hope not. I've got $5 bucks riding with Wrenchwench that Obama will keep Biden as his VP baring some major medical event...
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:01:16pm |
re: #240 HoosierHoops
Yes we are.. The Pats have broke my heart so many times..I hate them..4th and 2 my bro.. Good luck Sunday...
I predict that TB-12 and Belichick have an "Ocho Cinco" trick up their sleeve! Gronk will play, but be used more as a blocker and decoy because of his ankle. This game absolutely will be a nail biter because the teams are so even. Good luck to you too ... I think Brady thinks he is playing against Eli AND Peyton!
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:01:20pm |
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aagcobb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:01:46pm |
re: #232 EmmmieG
Wait--are there Democrat primaries even happening?
Yes. In fact there was just an administrative hearing in Georgia in which birthers tried to convince a hearing officer that Obama is ineligible to appear on the ballot. The President and his attorney chose not to be there.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:01:57pm |
re: #244 HappyWarrior
1. Insert Christian God into Every Aspect of Gov't
2. ???
3. Smaller Gov't
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:02:57pm |
re: #252 Slumbering Behemoth
This is tweet-worthy.
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engineer cat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:02:58pm |
i suppose newt is healthy enough for '46 states', but the man looks like a walking jar of mayonnaise
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funky chicken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:03:23pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
SOS, I'm afraid.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:03:56pm |
re: #237 jamesfirecat
Sorry but Romney can't be the savior of the GOP. His political stances have been compromised by his large number of flip flops to the point that it is impossible to take what he says to be what he actually believes.
At least that is my opinion.
perhaps ..... but he may be able to effectively sell his changed views as "evolving" and not flip flopping. Most voters aren't as dialed in as the Lizard crowd.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:03:59pm |
re: #247 jamesfirecat
I hope not. I've got $5 bucks riding with Wrenchwench that Obama will keep Biden as his VP baring some major medical event...
I just hope he doesn't decide to run in 2016.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:04:15pm |
re: #255 funky chicken
SOS, I'm afraid.
If it's the SOS, the GOP will be SOL, PDQ...
/channeling Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:04:57pm |
re: #256 _RememberTonyC
perhaps ... but he may be able to effectively sell his changed views as "evolving" and not flip flopping. Most voters aren't as dialed in as the Lizard crowd.
///Yeah, I'm sure he can have another deep personal moment with God become Pro Choice this time around.
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prairiefire Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:06:07pm |
re: #186 Killgore Trout
Targeted missile strikes is the best idea I got. Maybe the brainiacs in the Pentagon have better ideas.
Magnetic bombs placed on the cars of Iranian nuke scientists by a man on a motorcycle?
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:06:15pm |
re: #248 _RememberTonyC
I predict that TB-12 and Belichick have an "Ocho Cinco" trick up their sleeve! Gronk will play, but be used more as a blocker and decoy because of his ankle. This game absolutely will be a nail biter because the teams are so even. Good luck to you too ... I think Brady thinks he is playing against Eli AND Peyton!
Belichick is in a way to good of mood.. I saw what his planning and coaching did to Peyton for years..
You know Tony..I'd say overall 65% of all SB's pretty much sucked..
I think this is going to be a classic game..
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prairiefire Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:06:25pm |
re: #260 prairiefire
Magnetic bombs placed on the cars of Iranian nuke scientists by a man on a motorcycle?
In moving traffic.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:07:04pm |
Newt?
Please go bye-bye.
Sincerely,
The Sensible Right.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:07:28pm |
re: #220 EmmmieG
My teenage daughter did not find this funny, by the way.
She must be brain dead.
//
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funky chicken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:07:40pm |
Ooo, Southland's on. It's more real than Mitt Romney, so I'm off.
Ya'll have a good night :-).
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:08:25pm |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:08:41pm |
Romney I think will be tainted with the flip flop label much like Kerry was in 2004 for the Democrats. If you ask me, and I say this as someone who worked for Kerry's election to the presidency in 2004 that will be a problem for Mitt since he really is reminiscent of candidate Kerry. I think Romney will be forced to like Kerry to choose a VP who is much more populist in style.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:09:13pm |
re: #264 Alouette
She must be brain dead.
//
After her finals today in AP Calc and AP Language?
Yeah, her brain has shut down for the rest of the day. She did manage to feed herself.
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funky chicken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:09:23pm |
re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I've said it before, but as a military spouse I have to 100% agree. Romney doesn't get the military at all, and having him be CIC makes me very nervous.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:09:40pm |
re: #261 HoosierHoops
Belichick is in a way to good of mood.. I saw what his planning and coaching did to Peyton for years..
You know Tony..I'd say overall 65% of all SB's pretty much sucked..
I think this is going to be a classic game..
Agreed .... Eli has become a stud, but Brady is a God. I'm amazed at how smart, prepared, and tough minded he is. Whichever team has the ball last will win. Hopefully the game is in the hands of TB-12. I think NE wins by a FG or less. I cannot wait.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:09:43pm |
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:10:46pm |
re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth
Excuse me?!?!
/
I think Hoops was insinuating that you mostly suck...
/
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:11:49pm |
I'm sure it's easy to tell who wrote this today on Facebook:
A friend emailed me this notice from her local Alaskan school today. As the school notice makes clear: anything above -55 degrees below zero is warm enough for our Alaskan young’uns! Global warming? What global warming?
I just had to share this with all those who are enjoying the balmy 65 degree (above zero) weather in the Beltway today and the 70+ degree weather our Florida voters are enjoying!
Well, it might be well below freezing this week in Alaska, in January... but around the nation extreme warm weather has been the way this winter. From this week:
RECORD EVENT REPORT..CORRECTED FOR DATE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DES MOINES IA
604 PM CST MON JAN 30 2012
...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE AT DES MOINES IA TODAY...
THE HIGH TEMPERATURE AT DES MOINES WAS 65 DEGREES...BREAKS THE PREVIOUS RECORD OF 57 DEGREES WHICH WAS SET IN 1988. THIS TEMPERATURE IS TIED WITH 4 OTHER DATES FOR THE 2ND WARMEST DES MOINES DAY EVER RECORDED IN JANUARY. ONE OF THOSE DATES WAS JANUARY 5TH 2012. THE ALL TIME JANUARY RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE IN DES MOINES WAS 67 DEGREES ON JANUARY 8TH 2003.
000
SXUS73 KDMX 310017
RERDMX
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DES MOINES IA
615 PM CST MON JAN 30 2012
...RECORD DAILY HIGH TEMPERATURES EXCEEDED AT OTTUMWA AND LAMONI IA...
THE HIGH TEMPERATURE AT OTTUMWA IOWA REACHED 65 DEGREES TODAY...BREAKING THE PREVIOUS RECORD HIGH OF 59 DEGREES SET IN 1988.
THE HIGH TEMPERATURE AT LAMONI IOWA REACHED 63 DEGREES TODAY...BREAKING THE PREVIOUS RECORD HIGH OF 60 DEGREES SET IN 1988.
And so forth, around the nation:
A very mild January 2012 is ending with more new high temperature records being set in the Mid Atlantic region and the Northeast. Washington Dulles has at least tied broken the daily record for January 31 with 66° (old record 65° in 1993). By mid afternoon, the 54° at Bridgeport CT exceeded the old record of 53° set in 1974. At Islip NY, where the climate history extends back only to 1986, the temperature of 52° before noon broke the old record of 51° set in 1988. The 63° at Georgetown DE exceeded by 3° the record of 60° in 1974.
The 63° at Atlantic City tied the record from 1988 in a climate history which began back in 1874.
This is now the 13th consecutive month that new high temperature records have exceeded low temperature records in the U.S., since cold records eked out a ratio of 1.5 to 1 vs. heat records in December 2010. The preliminary reports from the National Climatic Data Center through January 30 show heat records crushing cold records by a ratio of 20.7 to 1, nearly as high as the incredible 22.2 to 1 last August. Without the 25% of total January cold records set in Alaska, the ratio for the contiguous 48 states is 27.5 to 1. With meteorological winter now two-thirds over, the ratio for the season as a whole is at 6.2 to 1.
But all of that is no problem, for Newt will deliver us from the anti-Christ himself (BHO).
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:12:45pm |
re: #267 HappyWarrior
Some enterprising Newt staffer should make a bunch of these that say "Mitt" on one and "Romney" on the other.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:13:31pm |
re: #272 talon_262
I think Hoops was insinuating that you mostly suck...
/
That's exactly what I thought. It's ON Hoops!!!
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:13:38pm |
re: #269 funky chicken
I've said it before, but as a military spouse I have to 100% agree. Romney doesn't get the military at all, and having him be CIC makes me very nervous.
I'd encourage him to keep (and listen to) many of the same advisers that President Obama looks to. They seem to be on point.
President Obama's not a military man either.
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:13:41pm |
Freerepublic is really good stuff right now, but I had to share this quote as it stands apart from the rest:
"Romney got 51% of the female vote. Gingrich 29%. Women vote for the guy they think is the most attractive. It’s the same whether the woman is a Republican or Democrat. It’s hard-wired into their system and you can’t get around it. The KGB (who orchestrated the American women’s lib movement in the sixties), America’s advertising agencies, and Hollywood moviemakers have all known this and have been capitalizing on it for years. Who do you think were the ones voting for Obama in 2008? They all thought he was ohhh so cute! Fainting included. Why do you think his handlers chose him in the first place? I’ll get flamed for this, but the worst thing to have happened to America was for women to have been granted the franchise. They can’t handle politics or philosophy. They just know how to swoon. Come on, look at Romney. He’s matinee-idol handsome. His handlers know that. So does the media. So does the Republican elite. Ask these women voters what Romney stands for and they can’t tell you. They just know they like him."
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:15:02pm |
re: #277 Petero1818
Freerepublic is really good stuff right now, but I had to share this quote as it stands apart from the rest:
"Romney got 51% of the female vote. Gingrich 29%. Women vote for the guy they think is the most attractive. It’s the same whether the woman is a Republican or Democrat. It’s hard-wired into their system and you can’t get around it. The KGB (who orchestrated the American women’s lib movement in the sixties), America’s advertising agencies, and Hollywood moviemakers have all known this and have been capitalizing on it for years. Who do you think were the ones voting for Obama in 2008? They all thought he was ohhh so cute! Fainting included. Why do you think his handlers chose him in the first place? I’ll get flamed for this, but the worst thing to have happened to America was for women to have been granted the franchise. They can’t handle politics or philosophy. They just know how to swoon. Come on, look at Romney. He’s matinee-idol handsome. His handlers know that. So does the media. So does the Republican elite. Ask these women voters what Romney stands for and they can’t tell you. They just know they like him."
Right. Women are voting for Romney over Newt because of looks, not because Romney's been great to the women in his life, and Newt's been...slimy.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:16:55pm |
re: #277 Petero1818
Freerepublic is really good stuff right now, but I had to share this quote as it stands apart from the rest:
"Romney got 51% of the female vote. Gingrich 29%. Women vote for the guy they think is the most attractive. It’s the same whether the woman is a Republican or Democrat. It’s hard-wired into their system and you can’t get around it. The KGB (who orchestrated the American women’s lib movement in the sixties), America’s advertising agencies, and Hollywood moviemakers have all known this and have been capitalizing on it for years. Who do you think were the ones voting for Obama in 2008? They all thought he was ohhh so cute! Fainting included. Why do you think his handlers chose him in the first place? I’ll get flamed for this, but the worst thing to have happened to America was for women to have been granted the franchise. They can’t handle politics or philosophy. They just know how to swoon. Come on, look at Romney. He’s matinee-idol handsome. His handlers know that. So does the media. So does the Republican elite. Ask these women voters what Romney stands for and they can’t tell you. They just know they like him."
Yeah damn women are too stupid to think for themselves and educate themselves and men are never shallow when it comes to voting, never ever, and never. Using that idiot's logic women should have voted for McCain-Palin in a landslide since there was a woman on the ticket but women voters aren't stupid thankfully.
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aagcobb Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:17:00pm |
re: #267 HappyWarrior
Romney I think will be tainted with the flip flop label much like Kerry was in 2004 for the Democrats. If you ask me, and I say this as someone who worked for Kerry's election to the presidency in 2004 that will be a problem for Mitt since he really is reminiscent of candidate Kerry. I think Romney will be forced to like Kerry to choose a VP who is much more populist in style.
I wonder if there is a Romney haters for Romney website yet?
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Obdicut Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:17:20pm |
re: #277 Petero1818
What straight guy looks at Romney and goes 'Wow, he's handsome'.
He's not matinee idol good looking.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:17:49pm |
re: #254 engineer dog
i suppose newt is healthy enough for '46 states', but the man looks like a walking jar of mayonnaise
My wife just said, "That's not very nice to mayonnaise."
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:18:16pm |
News says McDonald's will stop using "Pink Slime" Yay Jamie Oliver!!!
sort of.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:18:59pm |
re: #281 Obdicut
What straight guy looks at Romney and goes 'Wow, he's handsome'.
He's not matinee idol good looking.
Compared to Gingrich? Paul? He's the one I'd do.
NTTATWWT
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:19:45pm |
re: #281 Obdicut
What straight guy looks at Romney and goes 'Wow, he's handsome'.
He's not matinee idol good looking.
Reminds me of what a neighborhood friend said in 2000: "Women voted for Bush over Gore because they thought Bush was more attractive."
"You think Bush is physically attractive. I mean I am not saying Gore is but Bush""
Ah teenage years.
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Interesting Times Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:19:59pm |
re: #281 Obdicut
What straight guy looks at Romney and goes 'Wow, he's handsome'.
He's not matinee idol good looking.
This may sound far-fetched at first, but it really is the most accurate analysis of Mitt's "anti-charisma" that I've seen (h/t recusancy):
The Uncanny Valley: What Robot Theory Tells Us About Mitt Romney
Mitt Romney is the storybook presidential candidate. He's successful, good-looking and a family man, to boot. Yet one of this political season's enduring puzzles has been the former governor's consistent inability to bond with voters. It's been suggested that Romney's robotic persona may be to blame -- and perhaps the analogy isn't far off. Much as people are repulsed and disturbed by automatons that mimic humans closely but imperfectly, Romney inexplicably turns voters off despite looking like the textbook image of an American president. Roboticists call this unsettling effect "the uncanny valley" -- and Romney is stuck deep at the bottom of it.
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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:20:10pm |
re: #281 Obdicut
What straight guy looks at Romney and goes 'Wow, he's handsome'.
He's not matinee idol good looking.
Yeah. But that's to be expected. Nexus 5 models are a bit blocky and plastic looking.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:22:32pm |
re: #278 EmmmieG
Right. Women are voting for Romney over Newt because of looks, not because Romney's been great to the women in his life, and Newt's been...slimy.
me vote him. him dreamy.
-cavewoman voter.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:22:34pm |
re: #286 publicityStunted
This may sound far-fetched at first, but it really is the most accurate analysis of Mitt's "anti-charisma" that I've seen (h/t recusancy):
The Uncanny Valley: What Robot Theory Tells Us About Mitt Romney
Dogs bark at him too. But the NRA likes his stance on the purchasing of plasma rifles.
//
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:22:40pm |
re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth
News says McDonald's will stop using "Pink Slime" Yay Jamie Oliver!!!
sort of.
On one of his first trips to America he made it in front of American children. I demonstrations he's done plenty of times. He was shocked when the American kids actually wanted to eat it after seeing how it's made.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:23:07pm |
re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth
Oliver strikes me as being hyperbolic/Hyperchondriac here.
Any chef worth his sea salt has used the entire heads of fish or pigs to make stock... the whole stinkin' thing. Same stuff (but from bovine) which is used in "pink goo". The use of anti-microbial chemicals isn't such a bad idea either, given the generally poor sanitary practices of the food service industry.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:23:30pm |
re: #277 Petero1818
Lord. That's, that's, so fucking stupid that it's hard to believe some one could be that retrograde.
My wife says she's angry enough to spit nails.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:23:33pm |
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:23:44pm |
re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Compared to Gingrich? Paul? He's the one I'd do.
NTTATWWT
Can we watch? And film?
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:24:02pm |
re: #281 Obdicut
What straight guy looks at Romney and goes 'Wow, he's handsome'.
He's not matinee idol good looking.
Funny, I had the same thought. The craziest part of the whole quote is that he didnt get flamed at all for his call to disenfranchise women. In fact the only person to reply to him at all did so to tell him that Mitt was not matinee idol handsome.
And just what is the average age on that site? Who the fuck says "matinee idol" anymore?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:25:15pm |
re: #295 Petero1818
Funny, I had the same thought. The craziest part of the whole quote is that he didnt get flamed at all for his call to disenfranchise women. In fact the only person to reply to him at all did so to tell him that Mitt was not matinee idol handsome.
And just what is the average age on that site? Who the fuck says "matinee idol" anymore?
86? I think they're still using the telegraph to get the news too.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:25:58pm |
re: #292 Romantic Heretic
Lord. That's, that's, so fucking stupid that it's hard to believe some one could be that retrograde.
My wife says she's angry enough to spit nails.
You let your wife get into the tool cabinet? Sheesh, no wonder this country is going down the tubes.
/
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:26:21pm |
re: #295 Petero1818
Funny, I had the same thought. The craziest part of the whole quote is that he didnt get flamed at all for his call to disenfranchise women. In fact the only person to reply to him at all did so to tell him that Mitt was not matinee idol handsome.
And just what is the average age on that site? Who the fuck says "matinee idol" anymore?
Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?
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Petero1818 Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:27:03pm |
re: #297 Slumbering Behemoth
You let your wife get into the tool cabinet? Sheesh, no wonder this country is going down the tubes.
/
She only likes the slim smooth carpenter nails that are all shiny and stuff.../
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:27:42pm |
Watching the fourth episode of Alcatraz. I'm really like this show.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:28:24pm |
re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching the fourth episode of Alcatraz. I'm really like this show.
I like it also..
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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:28:47pm |
re: #298 jamesfirecat
Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?
I just saved 50 dollars on my horseless carriage insurance by switching to GEICO.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:28:53pm |
re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching the fourth episode of Alcatraz. I'm really like this show.
does it remind you of your Bay Area years?
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Interesting Times Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:28:59pm |
re: #295 Petero1818
Funny, I had the same thought. The craziest part of the whole quote is that he didnt get flamed at all for his call to disenfranchise women.
Please do screenshot and Page the whole thing - such staggering summits of sublime stupidity coupled with dizzying depths of derp must be preserved for posterity.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:30:35pm |
re: #297 Slumbering Behemoth
You let your wife get into the tool cabinet? Sheesh, no wonder this country is going down the tubes.
/
In our relationship 'tools' has an entirely different meaning.
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:31:24pm |
re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching the fourth episode of Alcatraz. I'm really like this show.
I'm more like Fringe, although if I couldn't be Fringe, Alcatraz would be good.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:32:36pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Oliver strikes me as being hyperbolic/Hyperchondriac here.
Any chef worth his sea salt has used the entire heads of fish or pigs to make stock... the whole stinkin' thing. Same stuff (but from bovine) which is used in "pink goo". The use of anti-microbial chemicals isn't such a bad idea either, given the generally poor sanitary practices of the food service industry.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:33:17pm |
re: #303 _RememberTonyC
does it remind you of your Bay Area years?
He just misses bunking with his sweet-heart Capone.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:34:40pm |
re: #307 Alouette
I don't eat at restaurants... dine-in or take-out.
Call me weird, or paranoid, or whatever... but I want to know the people who make my food (and their practices.)
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:34:52pm |
re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching the fourth episode of Alcatraz. I'm really like this show.
I'm kind of pissed that the girl cop has let the bad guys get the drop on her in every freaking episode!
By now I am pretty sure the whole who/why/how of time-traveling convicted felons (in addition to teaching them all the survival skills they need to know for rapin' robbin' and stabbin' in the future/present) will not be revealed until the grand finale.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:36:35pm |
re: #299 Petero1818
She only likes the slim smooth carpenter nails that are all shiny and stuff...
Not the ones with the heads that mushroom?
/I'm going to hell for that one...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:37:55pm |
re: #297 Slumbering Behemoth
You let your wife get into the tool cabinet? Sheesh, no wonder this country is going down the tubes.
/
My Mom is really nice. She lets my dad use the tools.
He's not allowed in the garden, though. She fired him back in the 70's.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:38:32pm |
re: #307 Alouette
Oh...
"I guess the lesson here is that you dont even need to be nasty to a server to have your food messed with. Sometimes it just happens."
... you don't even want to know.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:41:35pm |
re: #310 Alouette
By now I am pretty sure the whole who/why/how of time-traveling convicted felons (in addition to teaching them all the survival skills they need to know for rapin' robbin' and stabbin' in the future/present) will not be revealed until the grand finale.
Where it will be revealed that the whole thing was an event taking place in purgatory, and everyone who wants to go will get to go to heaven.
///I'm looking at you, "LOST". Lazy assholes.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:42:46pm |
Fox comment on the Florida outcome
nomarxistfarms 2 minutes ago
Mitt won the Southern part of the state where women voted AGAINST Newt in a huge wave! Also, it's more diverse in the South... Newt won the WHOLE of the North. Dixie still LOVES Newt... Mitt took the senior citizens, women, and the Jews... and most of the illegals, uh, I mean Cubans
1 person liked this.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:47:02pm |
re: #306 b_sharp
I'm more like Fringe, although if I couldn't be Fringe, Alcatraz would be good.
I like Alcatraz so far but i see it going totally written like LOST.. Same writers I guess...The plot points are suspect...Remember the 2 hour premiere?
Nice framed accused bank robber appears in modern time..We don't follow his life story but some grand conspiracy in the dark background...He killed everybody in sight..He went Rambo.. I watched it with some friends and everybody was scratching their heads..Then the next guy on the show was a cold blooded assassin that was nuts..Lots of kill shots in slo-mo..Helps with the plot..
And it keeps going to the Land of LOST each week..I hate that...
I guess it's too much to ask for a show about the bird man of Alcatraz showing up on the streets of 2012.. And the richness of the story and the sub text to the movie...And the hottie detective gets to chase him and confront the bird man..
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RealityBasedSteve Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:48:30pm |
re: #279 HappyWarrior
Yeah damn women are too stupid to think for themselves and educate themselves and men are never shallow when it comes to voting, never ever, and never. Using that idiot's logic women should have voted for McCain-Palin in a landslide since there was a woman on the ticket but women voters aren't stupid thankfully.
Nah,,, they got that angle figured out too. According to many there, women are threatened by an intelligent attractive conservative woman, so they won't vote for her. I sometimes wonder how many of them can function with the amount of cognitive dissonance that must be echoing in their heads.
I've had times that I've gone there, and in a matter of just a few minutes I'm screaming at my monitor "How can you be so freaking stupid???"
RBS
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:49:40pm |
re: #318 HoosierHoops
I like Alcatraz so far but i see it going totally written like LOST.. Same writers I guess...The plot points are suspect...Remember the 2 hour premiere?
Nice framed accused bank robber appears in modern time..We don't follow his life story but some grand conspiracy in the dark background...He killed everybody in sight..He went Rambo.. I watched it with some friends and everybody was scratching their heads..Then the next guy on the show was a cold blooded assassin that was nuts..Lots of kill shots in slo-mo..Helps with the plot..
And it keeps going to the Land of LOST each week..I hate that...
I guess it's too much to ask for a show about the bird man of Alcatraz showing up on the streets of 2012.. And the richness of the story and the sub text to the movie...And the hottie detective gets to chase him and confront the bird man..
And what happened to the gorgeous woman who got shot? I need her back.
And why doesn't that consultant guy carry a comic book?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:50:38pm |
re: #318 HoosierHoops
They draw the bad guys as really bad guys. I do like that about it.
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prairiefire Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:50:52pm |
re: #268 EmmmieG
After her finals today in AP Calc and AP Language?
Yeah, her brain has shut down for the rest of the day. She did manage to feed herself.
Have her AP classes affected her GPA. We have reservations about that.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:53:55pm |
re: #318 HoosierHoops
I like Alcatraz so far but i see it going totally written like LOST.. Same writers I guess...
I'm still pissed at them for that damn sloppy "It Was All Just a Dream" ending of LOST. Lazy.
"Oh, All these loose ends that the story hasn't resolved? *poof* Just a dream. Fuck you, audience".
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b_Snark Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:54:07pm |
re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They draw the bad guys as really bad guys. I do like that about it.
Black and white is easy to process so it becomes a sort of panacea after a tough, complex day.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:54:59pm |
re: #322 prairiefire
Have her AP classes affected her GPA. We have reservations about that.
We haven't had an actual report yet, but it appears she might get a B.
However, we've also been told that a B in an AP class is better than an A in a standard class.
There's also the college credit part.
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BenghaziHoops Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:55:49pm |
re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They draw the bad guys as really bad guys. I do like that about it.
They do bring an edge..
When somebody gets greased it's smo-mo graphics.. I give them that...
But the Characters are taking a strange twist each show..
But so far..So good.i think
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:56:59pm |
re: #319 RealityBasedSteve
Nah,,, they got that angle figured out too. According to many there, women are threatened by an intelligent attractive conservative woman, so they won't vote for her. I sometimes wonder how many of them can function with the amount of cognitive dissonance that must be echoing in their heads.
I've had times that I've gone there, and in a matter of just a few minutes I'm screaming at my monitor "How can you be so freaking stupid???"
RBS
Yeah, we women definitely don't have issues that concern us. Education, national security, the economy and so on matter less to us that if a guy's chin is cleft and his cheekbones strong.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 7:58:35pm |
re: #323 Slumbering Behemoth
Seriously. I was going to buy the whole series on DVD, but then they kicked me in the balls with that series finale. Fuck 'em right back.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:00:02pm |
re: #327 EmmmieG
It's a wonder we even put you in charge of the kitchen, not to mention let you stay at home alone with the kids.
///ducks, runs, looks for his athletic cup
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:07:40pm |
re: #3 BongCrodny
There's something ironic about me pissing away all that money in Las Vegas over the years, only to have that wingnut casino mogul give the money I pissed away to Newt Gingrich, who's also pissing it away.
It's the Pissing Away Ecosystem.
God, I wish Adelson had given that all to Birthright.
Or Hadassah.
Or Cedars-Sinai.
Or the SPCA.
Or...I could keep this going for a while.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:08:56pm |
OT, but if you are pissed about the PP/SGK situation here's where you can donate and a petition to sign.
[Link: secure.ppaction.org...]
[Link: signon.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:11:24pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
So, where does the GOP go from here? The tea party is dead, Mitt gets the nomination and will probably lose to Obama. All the traditional avenues of radicalization and moderation have been tried and failed. Do they just wait until the Dems to fuck up before regaining power? New strategy or the same old shit?
I'd say something about reviving the Ghost Dance, but that would be racist, and also creepy.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:12:43pm |
re: #333 SanFranciscoZionist
I'd say something about reviving the Ghost Dance, but that would be racist, and also creepy.
Also when you do the Ghost Dance, the horrors come unless America elects a dragon to stop them.
(Shadowrun Joke)
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:12:55pm |
re: #333 SanFranciscoZionist
There's always cross burning... maybe that would work?
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:18:28pm |
Romney won't be able to say the things he's saying now during the general election. We're going to see a lot contrasts in him then.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:20:18pm |
American Masters | Steve Brodner sketches Cab Calloway Part 2 | PBS
Minnie
....................the Moocher.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:21:00pm |
re: #336 Gus 802
Tofu can be flavored by more than one marinade.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:21:12pm |
re: #20 Robert O.
It looks like Romney outbid Gingrich in the Florida GOP Primary auction.
President Obama has about a billion bucks in his war chest.
Does that bother you?
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:21:57pm |
re: #338 freetoken
Tofu can be flavored by more than one marinade.
Let's see. We have oil and vinegar or Ranch. Which one you want?
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:24:06pm |
As Newt has said, the "midget is messed up":
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:25:18pm |
re: #147 Charles
Gingrich also pledged to move the US embassy to Jerusalem on his FIRST DAY as President.
Looney tunes.
I applaud the sentiment, but he actually wouldn't.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:28:11pm |
Massachusetts wingnut with an MBA and JD from Harvard; with Swiss bank accounts and revenue shelters in British territories.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:30:09pm |
On the Anybody But Romney campaign, I see that WND is pushing the "Teabow for President" bumper stickers, like, real hard.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:31:57pm |
Heeheehee
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:32:06pm |
re: #346 freetoken
Romney should name Orly as his VP pick. That'd win over the WND crowd.
/
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:32:12pm |
Wow, the right wing blogs are really hating on Mitt tonight.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:33:25pm |
re: #349 freetoken
Wow, the right wing blogs are really hating on Mitt tonight.
Bwahahahaha! My evil plan is working! Working!
//
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deadletterboy Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:33:29pm |
OT, but the trailer for the HBO adaptation of 'Game Change' looks fantastic. Julianne Moore kills it.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:34:02pm |
Man I tell ya'. Mitt Romney could almost be a Blue Dog Democrat.
Spread the word.
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:34:44pm |
re: #349 freetoken
Sadly, some other goober is filling in for Mark Levin tonight. I was so looking forward to hearing him lose his shit over this. I think he's in the tank for Santorum, but I can't be sure. I don't listen to him for more than a few minutes at time, if at all.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:34:53pm |
Did you know that Mitt Romney supported the assault weapons rifle ban?
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prairiefire Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:35:16pm |
re: #349 freetoken
Wow, the right wing blogs are really hating on Mitt tonight.
It's all very interesting to me from a sociological standpoint. I appreciate the cyber window on their world.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:35:55pm |
re: #354 Gus 802
Did you know that Mitt Romney supported the assault weapons rifle ban?
Did you know that Mitt Romney has ties to Saul Alinsky?!
Learnt that one on WND.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:37:10pm |
re: #356 freetoken
Did you know that Mitt Romney has ties to Saul Alinsky?!
Learnt that one on WND.
Mitt Romney. Alinsky-Republican.
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:38:33pm |
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:39:06pm |
Wouldn't surprise me if George Romney knew Bill Ayer's father who was a mover and shaker in the region. Illinois being close to Michigan. Lots of ties there. Six degrees!
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:40:25pm |
Meanwhile, in Alaska, Mt. Cleveland getting ready for another Round.
The Alaska Volcano Observatory raises its alert warning for the Cleveland Volcano after it starts forming a new lava dome indicating that the mountain could explode.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:40:30pm |
re: #358 Slumbering Behemoth
Julianne?!?!?! NOOO!!!
/can we have a moment of silence for my dead boner?
No Bob. Well that's why you should try the Detachable Penis 2000™ from Ronco©.
[Pulls tobacco pipe to face.]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:41:00pm |
re: #354 Gus 802
My nephew just got hired at the NRA. Kid's been shooting since he was nine. I shot his AK-47 once. Kind of freaked me out.
Someone asked him if they were grooming him to be the new Charlton Heston. He said, "Yeah, Guns and Moses".
I thought that was funny.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:41:31pm |
re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My nephew just got hired at the NRA. Kid's been shooting since he was nine. I shot his AK-47 once. Kind of freaked me out.
Someone asked him if they were grooming him to be the new Charlton Heston. He said, "Yeah, Guns and Moses".
I thought that was funny.
Oh now that cracked me up.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:42:09pm |
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recusancy Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:43:27pm |
re: #359 Gus 802
Wouldn't surprise me if George Romney knew Bill Ayer's father who was a mover and shaker in the region. Illinois being close to Michigan. Lots of ties there. Six degrees!
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:43:50pm |
re: #359 Gus 802
The Romney family, prominent in U.S. politics,[1] was descended from Gaskell Romney[2][3][4][5] (born, 1871, Saint George, Utah; died, 1955, Salt Lake City, Utah), and includes Gaskell's son George W. Romney (born, 1907, Colonia Dublán, Galeana, Chihuahua, Mexico; died, 1995, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan) the three-term governor of Michigan, 1963–1969. Through Gaskell Romney's wife, Anna Amelia Pratt,[6] it has an ancestral link with renown early Mormon leader Parley Parker Pratt[7][8][9] and also is linked by marriage to the Smith family, the Matheson family, and the Huntsman family.[10][11] Cousins of the family reside in the Mormon colonies in Mexico.[12][13] The Pratt family dates back to the 17th century in Connecticut, originating from William Pratt who served as a representative to the colonial legislature of the state for 23 terms. The Romney family immigrated to the United States from Dalton-in-Furness, England in the 1840s.[14] Aside from politics and government, their legacy extends into business and law, professional and college athletics, religion, the arts and sciences, architecture, philanthropy, and defense.
American royalty.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:44:39pm |
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:47:03pm |
One of Mitt's Great great grandfather is one of Jon Huntsman's (Jr) Great great great grandfathers.
It's a small world after all.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:47:39pm |
re: #366 freetoken
American royalty.
No, Mormon royalty.
If we had such a thing.
The two richest (old Utah) Mormon families are the Marriotts and Huntsmans. We can now add Romneys, I guess.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:47:44pm |
re: #351 deadletterboy
OT, but the trailer for the HBO adaptation of 'Game Change' looks fantastic. Julianne Moore kills it.
Harris and Moore look great for their roles. Woody not so much, but then I've been seeing a lot of Schmidt lately, so maybe that skews my perception a bit.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:48:40pm |
re: #368 freetoken
One of Mitt's Great great grandfather is one of Jon Huntsman's (Jr) Great great great grandfathers.
It's a small world after all.
Even smaller when your ancestors practiced polygamy.
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freetoken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:09pm |
I bet if I could fill out my full genealogy back 12 generations that I share at least one ancestor with Mitt.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:22pm |
re: #351 deadletterboy
OT, but the trailer for the HBO adaptation of 'Game Change' looks fantastic. Julianne Moore kills it.
Oh sorry... but that movie should appeal to every Red Blooded American Citizen...
Who has not seen enough of Sarah Palin. All SIX of them.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:28pm |
re: #365 recusancy
Oh yeah saw that last week. I thought that was pretty cool for both of them. That's some radical right there aye? George Romney the capitalist radical and Saul Alinsky the (non-socialist) community organizer radical. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:50pm |
re: #369 EmmmieG
President Obama's daughters'll probably keep their maiden names after marrying.
Just imagine in two hundred years what the direct lineage family name of Obama will mean.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:49:51pm |
FLOTUS will be on Leno in a little bit for those who are interested. I'll admit I'm a fan.
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Gus Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:50:23pm |
re: #372 freetoken
I bet if I could fill out my full genealogy back 12 generations that I share at least one ancestor with Mitt.
I know just the place you can do that too. Was parked right in front of it last September. Couple of hours.
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jaunte Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:50:25pm |
Gingrich’s SuperPAC Head Hits Back At Maddow And Panel: Stop Race Baiting
“I don’t understand this!” Tyler sniped. “The president sings, the president — Newt Gingrich makes a little thing, and all of a sudden it’s a racist thing! More people are on food stamps today because of Barack Obama. They fail in the schools, you can ask Al Sharpton! The Democrats have failed in the public schools with the African-Americans, they abort their babies, they’ve done nothing to lift them out of poverty!”
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:51:58pm |
re: #375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
President Obama's daughters'll probably keep their maiden names after marrying.
Just imagine in two hundred years what the direct lineage family name of Obama will mean.
First Grandson will be Barack Obama III, no doubt.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:53:59pm |
re: #379 moderatelyradicalliberal
First Grandson will be Barack Obama III, no doubt.
I think it's awesome.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:56:11pm |
re: #380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think it's awesome.
But I'm also saying, there's nothing wrong with being a Kennedy, either. Or a Bush, for that matter. America was built by some great families.
(Oh, sure... and their slaves.)
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:57:09pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:58:37pm |
re: #349 freetoken
Wow, the right wing blogs are really hating on Mitt tonight.
They're getting stuck with him, and they hate him more the longer they think about it.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 8:59:25pm |
re: #381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But I'm also saying, there's nothing wrong with being a Kennedy, either. Or a Bush, for that matter. America was built by some great families.
(Oh, sure... and their slaves.)
Yeah, it's interesting because we don't have royal families, but we do have dynasties I would say. Nice to have one that's partially the descendants of slaves.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:00:32pm |
re: #383 SanFranciscoZionist
They're getting stuck with him, and they hate him more the longer they think about it.
That's the magic of Mitt. To know him is to loath him. By November dogs will hate his and be trying to bit him on the street.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:17:03pm |
re: #171 Obdicut
I don't know WHAT Israel would do, but I know they would go all out to stop it.
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funky chicken Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:20:44pm |
re: #277 Petero1818
Freerepublic is really good stuff right now, but I had to share this quote as it stands apart from the rest:
"Romney got 51% of the female vote. Gingrich 29%. Women vote for the guy they think is the most attractive. It’s the same whether the woman is a Republican or Democrat. It’s hard-wired into their system and you can’t get around it. The KGB (who orchestrated the American women’s lib movement in the sixties), America’s advertising agencies, and Hollywood moviemakers have all known this and have been capitalizing on it for years. Who do you think were the ones voting for Obama in 2008? They all thought he was ohhh so cute! Fainting included. Why do you think his handlers chose him in the first place? I’ll get flamed for this, but the worst thing to have happened to America was for women to have been granted the franchise. They can’t handle politics or philosophy. They just know how to swoon. Come on, look at Romney. He’s matinee-idol handsome. His handlers know that. So does the media. So does the Republican elite. Ask these women voters what Romney stands for and they can’t tell you. They just know they like him."
Holy Shit.
Maybe they don't like the fact that Newt Gingrich is on his third wife, and the fact that she has transformed herself surgically and otherwise into a plasticine version of Cindy McCain in a tragic effort to satisfy his grandiose vision of what his wife should be.
I'm amazed that any woman would ever consider voting for him.
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