Officer Darren Wilson Says He Has a Clean Conscience and Wouldn’t Do Anything Differently

“Feared for his life”
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George Stephanopoulos apparently won the media competition to interview officer Darren Wilson. In a preview of the interview, Stephanopoulos says Wilson told him that although he was sorry for the loss of Michael Brown’s life, he “would not do anything different that day” and has a clean conscience about what happened.

And by the way, ABC News says they did not pay for the interview.

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491 comments
1 walkingdeadhead  Nov 25, 2014 12:31:23pm

As well he should…he did nothing wrong.

2 Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2014 12:31:56pm

Wilson’s conscience and intent are doubtless accurately described. That’s the problem.

3 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 12:32:07pm
4 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 12:32:43pm

re: #1 walkingdeadhead

FOADIAF

5 Eventual Carrion  Nov 25, 2014 12:32:51pm

So any black youth that sees Wilson coming at them, in uniform or not, should fear for their life? So could they stand their ground?

6 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Nov 25, 2014 12:32:57pm

re: #1 walkingdeadhead

As well he should…he did nothing wrong.

tell us more about the race hustlers

7 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 12:34:14pm

Well this thread got stunk up rather quickly…

8 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 12:35:14pm

-1000 Karma is in sight…..

9 walkingdeadhead  Nov 25, 2014 12:35:15pm

re: #5 Eventual Carrion

Nope, just the ones that hit Officer Wilson, grab his gun, and then try to charge him.

10 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:35:32pm

re: #1 walkingdeadhead

And the evidence that was never collected backs that story up.

11 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 12:35:53pm

Who let the trolls out?

/*********************/

Wilson was happy to talk to ABC without pay because it’s like a Get Out of Jail Free card. Nothing but free publicity showing he’s the man.

12 leftynyc  Nov 25, 2014 12:35:55pm

re: #1 walkingdeadhead

Your gloating over a dead black kid is pretty fucking disgusting. You are beneath contempt.

13 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 12:36:23pm

re: #9 walkingdeadhead

Again, no proof, no forensic evidence to make that claim, nothing but assertions that he charged.

The evidence suggests otherwise - and clearly could have been used to return an indictment if the prosecutor wanted to make the case.

14 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 12:36:48pm

re: #9 walkingdeadhead

Nope, just the ones that hit Officer Wilson, grab his gun, and then try to charge him.

Grab his gun? Then what did Wilson use to kill Brown? His lightning imagination?

15 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 12:37:09pm

Repeated from below:

BTW, if Brown struck Wilson in the head as claimed (and as WaPo slide 4 indicates here), why is the redness on the opposite side of Wilson’s face?

If you’re driving, your left side is facing the driver’s side window. Yet, whatever redness indicated in the photos Charles included from the released evidence above are present on his right side.

Even if Wilson turned his head to face Brown directly, you’d get at most a glancing blow. And it still doesn’t explain the reach into the car, the alleged struggle for the gun in the car, or Wilson’s actions thereafter.

And Gawker points out how the WaPo piece takes Wilson’s position for granted and makes Brown appear to be aggressor throughout, ignoring other witnesses indicating that his hands were up.

16 walkingdeadhead  Nov 25, 2014 12:37:42pm

If we’re talking about people who SHOULD have trouble sleeping tonight, we need to talk about Michael Brown’s stepfather..you know…”Burn this bitch down”. Its a damn shame about all the minority owned businesses, that had nothing to do with any of this, now see their businesses in shambles.
cnn.com

17 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 25, 2014 12:38:18pm

I’m glad my downding was the one that hid the troll comment.

18 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 12:38:19pm

re: #14 b_sharp

Splitting atoms with his mind. Or using the Diviner. Or the Tesseract. Because he’s got superpowers. Or something.

/11ty

19 walkingdeadhead  Nov 25, 2014 12:39:12pm

re: #10 Kragar

Grand Jury

20 Rev_Arthur_Ebolaing  Nov 25, 2014 12:39:54pm

re: #19 walkingdeadhead

Grand Jury

Failure to indict is not proof of innocence.

21 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 12:40:06pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Repeated from below:

BTW, if Brown struck Wilson in the head as claimed (and as WaPo slide 4 indicates here), why is the redness on the opposite side of Wilson’s face?

If you’re driving, your left side is facing the driver’s side window. Yet, whatever redness indicated in the photos Charles included from the released evidence above are present on his right side.

Even if Wilson turned his head to face Brown directly, you’d get at most a glancing blow. And it still doesn’t explain the reach into the car, the alleged struggle for the gun in the car, or Wilson’s actions thereafter.

And Gawker points out how the WaPo piece takes Wilson’s position for granted and makes Brown appear to be aggressor throughout, ignoring other witnesses indicating that his hands were up.

I read the Hospital report and it said the the left side of Wilson’s face suffered from minimal pain, while the right side suffered mild pain. Sounds like he was struck on the right side of his face. How is that done by someone punching through an open window to hit the driver?

22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2014 12:40:25pm

Wilson did nothing wrong by leaving a body lying in the road for hours, failing to file a full report immediately and then going into hiding. And he would do it again because he knows he would get away with it.

23 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 12:40:52pm

re: #19 walkingdeadhead

Why don’t you quote the applicable parts of the GJ testimony here, with a link to your sources?

24 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:40:56pm

re: #16 walkingdeadhead

Its a damn shame that the city of Ferguson would rather protect a corrupt cop than see justice is done in a court of law.

25 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 12:41:21pm

re: #16 walkingdeadhead

Don’t worry dickweed, the loss of a loved one typically causes people to lose sleep. I’m sure he’s had plenty of sleepless nights. You fucking piece of shit.

26 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:41:51pm

re: #19 walkingdeadhead

Kangaroo Court.

The National Bar Association Is Questioning The Grand Jury Decision, Releases Statement

27 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:43:47pm

re: #19 walkingdeadhead

No statement taken from Wilson the day of the incident.

No photos because “batteries died”

The prosecutor acting like Wilson’s personal DA.

Yeah, Grand Jury.

HA.

28 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 12:44:22pm

re: #27 Kragar

No statement taken from Wilson the day of the incident.

No photos because “batteries died”

The prosecutor acting like Wilson’s personal DA.

Yeah, Grand Jury.

HA.

I’m not saying the fix was in, but the fix was in.

29 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 12:44:22pm

re: #21 b_sharp

It’s a reach around. Mutant powers. Punching someone from around windows, the C pillar of the police vehicle, etc. to land what can only be perceived by the cop as potentially killing blows.

Except that there’s minimal injuries - and no follow up photos later in the week to show extent of injuries as bruising may develop later.

30 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:45:06pm

re: #28 b_sharp

I’m not saying the fix was in, but the fix was in.

They’re just making their way the only way they know how.

31 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 12:45:34pm

re: #28 b_sharp

I’m not saying the fix was in, but the fix was in.

And that the law gives so much deference to cops to use deadly force that even if the entire situation was captured on video and there was sufficient audio, he would still probably get off because he feared for his life.

The law needs to be adjusted.

32 Dr. Matt  Nov 25, 2014 12:45:56pm
Darren Wilson Says Wouldn’t Do Anything Differently

Zimmerman said the same thing about shooting the other unarmed blah teen.

33 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 12:47:02pm

re: #27 Kragar

No statement taken from Wilson the day of the incident.

No photos because “batteries died”

The prosecutor acting like Wilson’s personal DA.

Yeah, Grand Jury.

HA.

And multiple leaks from “high level sources” of false information to Fox News and other sympathetic outlets with little to no journalist ethics (that all by itself opens up a huge field of players).

34 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 12:47:14pm

I usually do not downding. But in this case there is a health problem with unneeded vermin about. So, in the name of public safety I had to help out.

35 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 12:48:04pm

I feel I need to repeat myself from downstairs, because our newest troll missed it:

As I read more and more, I reach two conclusions: The GJ was a joke and it did what McCullough wanted, namely it’s providing a smokescreen to say “All the evidence was looked at and they saw no reason for a trial!”

Except a GJ isn’t about looking at all the evidence, it’s about looking at enough to establish probable cause, a very easy hurdle to clear. Hence why prosecutors don’t bring exculpatory evidence, like witnesses with contradictory statements, experts to interpret physical evidence as supporting the defendant, or evidence about the victim that makes them unsympathetic.

When Corey brought charges against Zimmerman, it mollified the populace. When the trial ended in acquittal, it was on her and on the police department for screw-ups in the investigation and prosecution. Here? Here it was a con-job from Day One, a cover-up that leaves us without a verdict, just a prosecutor siding with the defendant and taking every step he can to assure that this never goes to trial. You’re not going to mollify people who believe the system corrupt and unanswerable to them by making a show of protecting your own.

36 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:49:11pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

I usually do not downding. But in this case there is a health problem with unneeded vermin about. So, in the name of public safety I had to help out.

Rarin.

37 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 12:50:10pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Zimmerman said the same thing about shooting the other unarmed blah teen.

Anyone want to bet these positions and excuses are now ‘book’ for police and anyone living in a stand-your-ground state?

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the NRA publishes a pamphlet on how to act and what to say if you shoot someone.

Grrrrr.

38 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 12:50:31pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

Right…vomit a bunch of evidence in front of 12 people (including obvious bullshit such as Witness #40). Give them no real direction, assistance, or analysis. They returned a no bill. Dem’s da breaks…it’s an imperfect system, but the best one we have. Now watch this drive.

39 Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2014 12:50:41pm
40 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 12:51:00pm

I should also add that it’s an amazing contrast between the cases of Zimmerman and Wilson in the actions of the governor.

In the former, when it became apparent that the prosecutor was dragging his feet and making excuses for not going to trial, the Republican governor stepped in and replaced him.

Here, when it became apparent that the prosecutor was making a hash of the whole deal and looking for reasons not to go to trial, the Democrat governor sat on his hands and made excuses for why he couldn’t get involved.

41 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 12:51:43pm

re: #39 Ace-o-aces

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Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2014 12:52:18pm

re: #41 Mike Lamb

Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

He will insist that it is simply racially realist and that some of best friends etc…

43 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:52:18pm

re: #41 Mike Lamb

Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

Not a fucking clue

44 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 12:52:27pm

re: #41 Mike Lamb

Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

Of course not.

45 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 12:53:24pm

re: #41 Mike Lamb

Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

Too bad NBC doesn’t, but I guess he still makes them money so it’s all good.

46 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 12:53:37pm

re: #39 Ace-o-aces

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So says the human failure.

47 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 12:54:14pm
48 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 12:54:14pm

re: #46 b_sharp

So says the human failure.

Guy who has been out of bankruptcy more than Mr. monopoly.

49 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 12:54:41pm

The entire world will be better off if it never sees another Donald Trump.

50 3eff Jeff  Nov 25, 2014 12:54:42pm

re: #43 Kragar

Not a fucking clue

In other words, just like all of his tweets.

51 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 12:54:54pm

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He will insist that it is simply racially realist and that some of best friends etc…

I suppose he’ll next brag about allowing ‘colored folks’ to use his bathroom.

52 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 12:55:01pm

I can’t wait for Conservatives to start rationalizing that the reason Ben Carson’s presidential campaign fails utterly is because of Obama.

53 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 12:56:40pm

Wait, bankrupt Donald Trump is still talking?

54 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 12:57:00pm

re: #41 Mike Lamb

Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

Yep. I think he does.
He may not have figured out how to keep his ass out of bankruptcy court, but that smug bastard certainly knows how to provoke.

55 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 12:57:26pm

re: #52 Kragar

They’ll start first with claiming that Obama wasn’t a true Black, let alone a real American™. Rather, he was a supersecret Muslim Kenyan? Because you know that’s where they’ll go with that…

56 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 12:59:42pm

Correct me if I’m wrong, lawhawk, but there’s nothing barring McCullough’s successor from stepping in and charging Wilson, is there? A failure to indict does not fall under “double jeopardy” and thus he could still be charged in the future?

57 Dr. Matt  Nov 25, 2014 1:01:56pm

re: #55 lawhawk

They’ll start first with claiming that Obama wasn’t a true Black, let alone a real AmericanTM. Rather, he was a supersecret Muslim Kenyan? Because you know that’s where they’ll go with that…

The am hate radio crowd and Fox “news” were calling him a “Halfrican” just 6 short years ago.

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mediamatters.org

dailykos.com

58 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 1:03:50pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

That would be my understanding as well.

59 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 1:04:54pm
60 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:05:19pm

re: #59 Kragar

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Word.

61 gwangung  Nov 25, 2014 1:06:15pm

re: #59 Kragar

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Updinged, but, you know…colored people have been saying that for a LONG time.

62 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 1:07:13pm

re: #58 lawhawk

That would be my understanding as well.

Then there really was no acquittal here, no proof of Wilson’s innocence, and nothing that would bar him from being charged in the future. That what we really have, when all is said and done, is a prosecutor who is either so inept or so corrupt that he failed to secure an indictment.

63 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:08:36pm

That ABC and Stephanopoulos got this interview is no surprise.

I am not sure how it is around the country, but in the Columbus area Fox 28 and ABC Channel 6 have a working relationship. They share personnel, etc. I guess it all came about through Disney dealings. Who knows…its all part of the big media machine.

64 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 1:08:52pm

There is no “proof of innocence” in a court of law. A “not guilty” verdict does not mean “innocent” just that there was insufficient evidence to convict.

65 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:10:06pm

I don’t mind opponents, and I don’t mind wingnuts in general, as long as they’re at least responsive. This guy has been refusing to prove his claim that MB “charged” Wilson. He repeats it over and over. That’s doesn’t add any fun to the threads (as some other trolls do). Why is he still here?

66 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 1:10:29pm

re: #61 gwangung

Updinged, but, you know…colored people have been saying that for a LONG time.

I K R!
But nobody listend to us. It got chalked up to laziness.

67 sagehen  Nov 25, 2014 1:11:56pm

re: #64 The Vicious Fergushka

There is no “proof of innocence” in a court of law. A “not guilty” verdict does not mean “innocent” just that there was insufficient evidence to convict.

In some countries, the possible verdicts are “guilty”, “innocent”, and “not proven”. You can’t go to jail for a “not proven”, but the doubt follows you around.

68 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:12:02pm

Gov. Nixon address going on now on MSNBC.

69 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 1:12:03pm

re: #64 The Vicious Fergushka

There is no “proof of innocence” in a court of law. A “not guilty” verdict does not mean “innocent” just that there was insufficient evidence to convict.

Which is all the more reason McCullough didn’t want this to go trial, because a failure to convict would have been pretty damning once the FPD and SLCPD had to explain at trial why they lacked crucial evidence like crime scene photos, or why Wilson’s “injuries” don’t match his testimony.

70 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:12:25pm

re: #67 sagehen

In some countries, the possible verdicts are “guilty”, “innocent”, and “not proven”. You can’t go to jail for a “not proven”, but the doubt follows you around.

Scotland? (Only a stereotype I know…)

71 Minor_L  Nov 25, 2014 1:13:29pm

Gross.

Also, in reference to the article downstairs, I read somewhere that Wilson wasn’t even going to go to the hospital, but ended up doing so after consulting with his attorney.

72 Minor_L  Nov 25, 2014 1:14:57pm

re: #26 Kragar

I’ve been feeling pretty down on the legal profession last night (I’m an attorney), but that makes me feel better.

73 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 1:15:33pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Gov. Nixon address going on now on MSNBC.

I can’t imagine a fucking thing he could say that would be worth listening to.

74 Franklin  Nov 25, 2014 1:16:07pm

re: #41 Mike Lamb

Do you think Trump even realizes how sickeningly racist his tweet is?

POINTING OUT THAT A PERSONS SKIN COLOR WOULD PREKLOOD THEM FROM BENG AN EFFECTIVE PRESIDENT IS NOT RACIST!

Why yes, yes it is. That’s exactly how that works.

75 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 1:16:48pm

re: #73 Kragar

I can’t imagine a fucking thing he could say that would be worth listening to.

No shit, as far as I’m concerned, this fucker is every bit as culpable as McCullough.

76 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:17:48pm

re: #73 Kragar

I can’t imagine a fucking thing he could say that would be worth listening to.

And you are right. It’s all tough talk about protecting lives and businesses.

What he seems to fail to grasp is he has a real problem…and that problem is a certain group of people do not feel their lives and businesses are being protected by police.

77 Minor_L  Nov 25, 2014 1:17:57pm

This might have been posted, but:

Lisa Bloom has been great on this story.

78 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 1:19:19pm

re: #74 Franklin

POINTING OUT THAT A PERSONS SKIN COLOR WOULD PREKLOOD THEM FROM BENG AN EFFECTIVE PRESIDENT IS NOT RACIST!

Why yes, yes it is. That’s exactly how that works.

But, you see, he isn’t judging him on his skin color—he’s judging him based on the performance of someone else that happened to have the same skin color, and we know they are all the same…he’s just keeping it real.

79 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 1:19:23pm

re: #77 Minor_L

This might have been posted, but:

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Lisa Bloom has been great on this story.

Yep, been following her.

80 Minor_L  Nov 25, 2014 1:19:52pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

I couldn’t believe how many conservative idiots were bitching last night on Twitter about how upset they were that flags were being burned. FLAGS. Seriously, that’s what they’re taking away from this? I tweeted that that was the very definition of privilege.

81 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 1:21:32pm

Ongoing presser with Gov. Nixon, and that they’re going to deploy more National Guardsmen to area. There were apparently 700 in the area last night. They’re going to have 2,200 tonight.

Didn’t look like the NG was anywhere involved in the protests last night. Or policing. No sign that the “unified command” was anything but the county PD and FPD doing their own thing - again.

82 Minor_L  Nov 25, 2014 1:21:42pm

re: #79 #FergusonFireside

She is really taking apart the prosecutor. It’s unbelievable how easy they went on Wilson. Or maybe it’s totally believable. Sigh.

83 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:22:47pm

re: #80 Minor_L

I couldn’t believe how many conservative idiots were bitching last night on Twitter about how upset they were that flags were being burned. FLAGS. Seriously, that’s what they’re taking away from this? I tweeted that that was the very definition of privilege.

I said this around here before. When symbols like a flag are more important than the freedom they are a symbol of, then you have problems.

Also, I don’t want to Godwin, but anyone notice how some groups with really bad reputations love them some symbols?

84 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 1:23:29pm

There’s just something outright, mindbogglingly stupid about listening to wingnuts bitch a moan about the response in Ferguson to the verdict, when these are the same people who’ve repeatedly called for armed and violent revolution to “take this country back!”

85 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 1:24:22pm

Perspective on what happened last night.

This wasn’t the entire city of Ferguson going up in flames, or even a significant portion. A handful of businesses and two corridors affected. One damaged business is one too many. But the media and the right wing want this to be worse than LA.

The local police will do their best to oblige them.

86 Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2014 1:24:40pm

“Nixon’s the One!” -1972 campaign slogan.

We’ve got an even bigger one in the twenty-first century.

87 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:25:33pm

“The Brown family”?

88 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 1:25:43pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

There’s just something outright, mindbogglingly stupid about listening to wingnuts bitch a moan about the response in Ferguson to the verdict, when these are the same people who’ve repeatedly called for armed and violent revolution to “take this country back!”

Again, they were cheering on the people who were armed and ready to do violence in the defense of a guy with cows.

89 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:26:41pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel

“Nixon’s the One!” -1972 campaign slogan.

We’ve got an even bigger one in the twenty-first century.

The campaign slogan that I really remember form 1972 is: Dick Nixon Before He Dicks You!

I was too naive and young as a voter to heed that advice. But, damn, did I learn from it.

90 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 1:27:59pm

re: #87 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

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“The Brown family”?

May I reiterate again how not sorry I am to see Killgore thrown out on his ass?

91 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 1:28:03pm
92 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:28:35pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

May I reiterate again how not sorry I am to see Killgore thrown out on his ass?

He’s really shown his true face.

93 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 1:29:32pm

re: #87 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

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“The Browns”

If it looks like a duck…
I guess Killgore was a duck after all.
Good riddance.

94 ipsos  Nov 25, 2014 1:30:47pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

That ABC and Stephanopoulos got this interview is no surprise.

I am not sure how it is around the country, but in the Columbus area Fox 28 and ABC Channel 6 have a working relationship. They share personnel, etc. I guess it all came about through Disney dealings. Who knows…its all part of the big media machine.

Don’t read anything much into that. ABC/Disney itself owns fewer than a dozen ABC stations around the country, mostly in big markets like LA, NY, Chicago, Philly, San Francisco, etc. Fox/Murdoch itself owns only about 20 Fox network affiliates around the country, again mostly in big markets.

Each network has another 200 or so affiliates around the country, owned by other companies that pay ABC or Fox (or CBS or NBC) to carry their programming. (Back in the day, the networks paid the stations, but that’s a digression.) In all but the biggest markets, it’s common for one company to operate multiple stations carrying multiple affiliations in every combination available. In Fort Wayne, it’s ABC and NBC. In Erie, it’s NBC and CBS. In Wheeling it’s CBS and Fox.

None of this has anything at all to do with what the networks themselves do. The networks don’t exercise editorial control over 200+ affiliate newsrooms, and the affiliates don’t have any pull with the network newsrooms, especially on a “get” as big as Wilson.

(It happens that in Columbus, your ABC and Fox affiliates are owned by one of the slimiest of the affiliate owners, a rancidly right-wing group called Sinclair, but that still doesn’t have anything to do with ABC and Fox themselves.)

95 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:31:11pm

re: #93 OhNoZombies!

If it looks like a duck…
I guess Killgore was a duck after all.
Good riddance.

Well, he did weigh as much as a duck…

96 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 1:32:26pm

re:
#77

But SEVERE BRUISING!!!!11 WE’ve all seen the PICTURES!!!!!111

97 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:32:56pm

re: #87 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

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“The Brown family”?

Killgore Trout ended up being what I feared all along. I posted several times that he seemed to be frustrated and acting out because of the changes that occurred here at LGF. You could tell he was always a law and order type, which was made clear by his crying about Occupy Movements. He bitched about Euromaiden too.

I remember he and I got into a tussle when I mentioned that Comcast taking over NBC was not a good thing. He said it was just business. I said it was about entertainment, control of media and a cutting of real news departments.

What can you say. He is free to be all he wants to be now. Sad.

98 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:34:15pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

Killgore Trout ended up being what I feared all along. I posted several times that he seemed to be frustrated and acting out because of the changes that occurred here at LGF. You could tell he was always a law and order type, which was made clear by his crying about Occupy Movements. He bitched about Euromaiden too.

I remember he and I got into a tussle when I mentioned that Comcast taking over NBC was not a good thing. He said it was just business. I said it was about entertainment, control of media and a cutting of real news departments.

What can you say. He is free to be all he wants to be now. Sad.

I thought he was just contrary for the sake of being it but this is fucked up.

99 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:34:16pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

He bitched about Maidan? I thought he was supportive of Ukraine.

100 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 1:35:11pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

Killgore Trout ended up being what I feared all along. I posted several times that he seemed to be frustrated and acting out because of the changes that occurred here at LGF. You could tell he was always a law and order type, which was made clear by his crying about Occupy Movements. He bitched about Euromaiden too.

I remember he and I got into a tussle when I mentioned that Comcast taking over NBC was not a good thing. He said it was just business. I said it was about entertainment, control of media and a cutting of real news departments.

What can you say. He is free to be all he wants to be now. Sad.

Kilgore was a fucking racist who let his freak flag finally fly. He tortured us up until that point holding just enough back.

101 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:36:25pm

re: #94 ipsos

Don’t read anything much into that. ABC/Disney itself owns fewer than a dozen ABC stations around the country, mostly in big markets like LA, NY, Chicago, Philly, San Francisco, etc. Fox/Murdoch itself owns only about 20 Fox network affiliates around the country, again mostly in big markets.

Each network has another 200 or so affiliates around the country, owned by other companies that pay ABC or Fox (or CBS or NBC) to carry their programming. (Back in the day, the networks paid the stations, but that’s a digression.) In all but the biggest markets, it’s common for one company to operate multiple stations carrying multiple affiliations in every combination available. In Fort Wayne, it’s ABC and NBC. In Erie, it’s NBC and CBS. In Wheeling it’s CBS and Fox.

None of this has anything at all to do with what the networks themselves do. The networks don’t exercise editorial control over 200+ affiliate newsrooms, and the affiliates don’t have any pull with the network newsrooms, especially on a “get” as big as Wilson.

(It happens that in Columbus, your ABC and Fox affiliates are owned by one of the slimiest of the affiliate owners, a rancidly right-wing group called Sinclair, but that still doesn’t have anything to do with ABC and Fox themselves.)

I see you know all about Sinclair Broadcasting.

I still think it is relationship made in hell though.

102 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:39:06pm

re: #99 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He bitched about Maidan? I thought he was supportive of Ukraine.

Not bitched so much as criticize them for even trying. He seemed to think the movement was dumb and Putin was going to do what Putin wanted to do all along. Again…law and order. No sense in protests, The Man will just crush you anyway. And little pussy Obama would never do anything about it anyway. A very dismissive individual.

103 HKatz  Nov 25, 2014 1:39:15pm

Since the grand jury results came out, I’ve seen an explosion of comments comparing the victim to a variety of large animals with superhuman powers (Wilson knew what he was doing when he and the attorney(s) advising him selected hulking demon imagery for his descriptions of Brown). People have not only accepted Wilson’s account as gospel truth, they’re further embellishing on the testimony or twisting it around to make Michael Brown even more super-powerful in the scenario (while Wilson looks utterly child-like and helpless). The willful ignorance and malice is staggering.

104 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 1:40:41pm

re: #100 #FergusonFireside

Kilgore was a fucking racist who let his freak flag finally fly. He tortured us up until that point holding just enough back.

He was also a coward.
I personally got really good a scrolling right past his BS.
Not even worthy of a down ding.

105 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 1:41:06pm

Bundy Ranch: “We need a revolution! We need to take this country back! We’ll take up arms against our government oppressors!!!”

Ferguson: “What are all you black people rioting about?! It was a fair and legal process! Abide by the law and stop hurting others!!”

106 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 1:41:19pm

re:
#94

(It happens that in Columbus, your ABC and Fox affiliates are owned by one of the slimiest of the affiliate owners, a rancidly right-wing group called Sinclair, but that still doesn’t have anything to do with ABC and Fox themselves.)

Sinclair owns the ABC station in Wash DC as well. A damn shame.

107 dog philosopher  Nov 25, 2014 1:41:36pm

the world is imperfect and people are assholes
blame democrats
republicans get elected
republicans fuck things up worse
democrats get elected
democrats accomplish very little
the world is imperfect and people are assholes
blame democrats

108 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:41:45pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Bundy Ranch: “We need a revolution! We need to take this country back! We’ll take up arms against our government oppressors!!!”

Ferguson: “What are all you black people rioting about?! It was a fair and legal process! Abide by the law and stop hurting others!!”

Pretty much.

109 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:42:25pm

re: #104 OhNoZombies!

He was also a coward.
I personally got really good a scrolling right past his BS.
Not even worthy of a down ding.

I learned not to down ding him too. He lived for those. His little red badges of courage.

110 ipsos  Nov 25, 2014 1:44:35pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

I see you know all about Sinclair Broadcasting.

I still think it is relationship made in hell though.

I could rant for DAYS about what a disaster Sinclair is for the nation, believe you me. But just because Sinclair owns both ABC and Fox affiliates (or, in this case, ABC and Fox affiliates in the same market, as they do in my market as well), doesn’t mean ABC and Fox were anything but competitors when it came to who’d be first to give Wilson a warm on-air tongue bath.

111 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:44:42pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

I learned not to down ding him too. He lived for those. His little red badges of courage.

I never dd. Hell I even tried engaging him civilly but he just had to be contrary and dismiss everything as “outrage” even though he flipped his crap over OWS.

112 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 1:47:05pm

re:
#105

That’s completely different because

/

113 makeitstop  Nov 25, 2014 1:48:59pm

re: #110 ipsos

I could rant for DAYS about what a disaster Sinclair is for the nation, believe you me. But just because Sinclair owns both ABC and Fox affiliates (or, in this case, ABC and Fox affiliates in the same market, as they do in my market as well), doesn’t mean ABC and Fox were anything but competitors when it came to who’d be first to give Wilson a warm on-air tongue bath.

Sinclair. They ran that Swift Boat hatchet job on Kerry in ‘04.

114 nicdanger  Nov 25, 2014 1:49:07pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

My favorite from that era was “Why change dicks in the middle of a screw,re-elect Nixon in ‘72”.But I showed him,I voted for Pat Paulson that year.The first and last vote I ever wasted.

115 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 1:49:20pm
116 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:51:27pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Sinclair. They ran that Swift Boat hatchet job on Kerry in ‘04.

Thought the name sounded familiar. I still haven’t forgotten or forgiven the RNC for trashing Kerry’s military service record. Just despicable and then you compare it with how Obama was to McCain and it just makes you all the more sick.

117 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 1:51:52pm

re: #104 OhNoZombies!

He was also a coward.
I personally got really good a scrolling right past his BS.
Not even worthy of a down ding.

I had KT on scroll over long before he got the boot.

118 Mattand  Nov 25, 2014 1:51:53pm

In my fantasy world, ABC would have said “No thanks, we don’t want to participate in Darren Wilson’s victory lap.”

119 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:52:50pm

Well in unrelated news, I’m happy to report that my interview at the resort went well. Never thought I’d be looking at hospitality work but hey my parents met waiting tables and my godfather is a bartender.

120 Mattand  Nov 25, 2014 1:53:47pm

re: #117 Kragar

I had KT on scroll over long before he got the boot.

Yeah, the whole “Trayvon Martin had it coming” attitude kind of cinched it for me.

121 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 1:54:21pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Lots of luck!

122 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:55:19pm

re: #121 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Lots of luck!

Thanks. Beautiful resort really. Nothing like I’ve ever stayed at in my travels I can assure you heh.

123 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 1:56:54pm

It was all the war porn that did it for me.
I don’t miss that either.

124 ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2014 1:56:59pm

re: #118 Mattand

In my fantasy world, ABC would have said “No thanks, we don’t want to participate in Darren Wilson’s victory lap.”

Exactly. But they could never turn down those ratings.

Money is what matters in America, and how you go about collecting it not so much.

And all those Christians crying for more Christian influence in this country, it is money they are more interested in. Control allows the money machine to just hum along.

125 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 1:57:54pm

re: #120 Mattand

Yeah, the whole “Trayvon Martin had it coming” attitude kind of cinched it for me.

Outrage.// Sorry couldn’t resist but yeah. I mean there’s always going to be that person who is just contrary for the sake of being contrary but I realized eventually that KT didn’t even want genuine discussion. He wasn’t the most annoying person I’ve ever dealt with here who was a long time poster but his act really grew thin because as I got at, everything was “outrage” to him but he thought that his bellyaching about people using their constitutional right to petition and protest was “silencing free speech.” His selective tolerance for certain speech was telling too. He’d get all worked up about lefty groups but nary a word for righty groups.

126 Dr. Matt  Nov 25, 2014 1:59:35pm

re: #120 Mattand

Yeah, the whole “Trayvon Martin had it coming” attitude kind of cinched it for me.

‘Had it coming’…..from the “pro-life” party.

127 Mattand  Nov 25, 2014 1:59:59pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Outrage.// Sorry couldn’t resist but yeah. I mean there’s always going to be that person who is just contrary for the sake of being contrary but I realized eventually that KT didn’t even want genuine discussion. He wasn’t the most annoying person I’ve ever dealt with here who was a long time poster but his act really grew thin because as I got at, everything was “outrage” to him but he thought that his bellyaching about people using their constitutional right to petition and protest was “silencing free speech.” His selective tolerance for certain speech was telling too. He’d get all worked up about lefty groups but nary a word for righty groups.

LOL, he downdinged me for pointing out that his idea of a market for used underwear was idiotic.

128 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 2:00:27pm

I want to reiterate something I said months back during the lead-up and trial of Zimmerman: My attitude was based upon my interpretation of the law and the evidence as presented, not a personal belief that Zimmerman was innocent. I continue to maintain that, had the prosecution and LEO acted in a competent fashion, a conviction on at least a second-degree charge would have been possible.

129 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:00:54pm

re: #127 Mattand

LOL, he downdinged me for pointing out that his idea of a market for used underwear was idiotic.

Haha I missed that.

130 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 2:01:48pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Well in unrelated news, I’m happy to report that my interview at the resort went well. Never thought I’d be looking at hospitality work but hey my parents met waiting tables and my godfather is a bartender.

Congrats! In another unrelated but now related story, I’ve been thinking of getting a part time server job. Need the money, need to fill the time. Last night like a minute before the announcement I got the call, I’m going to be slinging hash at the Applebee’s across the street. It was like YAY then crying in 3 minutes flat.

131 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:02:30pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

I want to reiterate something I said months back during the lead-up and trial of Zimmerman: My attitude was based upon my interpretation of the law and the evidence as presented, not a personal belief that Zimmerman was innocent. I continue to maintain that, had the prosecution and LEO acted in a competent fashion, a conviction on at least a second-degree charge would have been possible.

No worries. You weren’t trolling or anything like that. And I would agree with you about the prosecution and LEO in the Martin case. You weren’t going out of your way to attack Martin as a “thug” who deserved to die or bashing his family.

132 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 25, 2014 2:03:01pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Outrage.// Sorry couldn’t resist but yeah. I mean there’s always going to be that person who is just contrary for the sake of being contrary but I realized eventually that KT didn’t even want genuine discussion. He wasn’t the most annoying person I’ve ever dealt with here who was a long time poster but his act really grew thin because as I got at, everything was “outrage” to him but he thought that his bellyaching about people using their constitutional right to petition and protest was “silencing free speech.” His selective tolerance for certain speech was telling too. He’d get all worked up about lefty groups but nary a word for righty groups.

KT trashed the Tea Party heavily when it came out. So, in part, and at least farther in the past, he was more anti-protest in his viewpoint and pretty solidly centered around order as the priority. It seemed to swing as he took up the resident curmudgeon cloak after the departure of a few others for slimier fields.

133 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:03:34pm

re: #130 #FergusonFireside

Congrats! In another unrelated but now related story, I’ve been thinking of getting a part time server job. Need the money, need to fill the time. Last night like a minute before the announcement I got the call, I’m going to be slinging hash at the Applebee’s across the street. It was like YAY then crying in 3 minutes flat.

Thanks. First interview I’ve had since June. Waiting tables is tough business but I always do try to be courteous and generous to waitstaff.

134 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:04:39pm
135 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:05:07pm

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

KT trashed the Tea Party heavily when it came out. So, in part, and at least farther in the past, he was more anti-protest in his viewpoint and pretty solidly centered around order as the priority. It seemed to swing as he took up the resident curmudgeon cloak after the departure of a few others for slimier fields.

Yeah he was never two faced. Just seemed to have genuine scorn for the very idea of people protesting which rubbed me the wrong way for all his talk about how he valued free speech. But yeah he did seem to take that mantle up. As I said, not the most unreasonable person I’ve ever dealt with during my time here but it just got old. I never could figure out if he really had any real ideology.

136 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:05:34pm

re: #134 Kragar

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“Coming up after Hannity, it’s the Fuhrman and Wilson show.”

137 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:06:09pm

Some KT classics. It’s when it all went downhill.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

138 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:07:42pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

“Coming up after Hannity, it’s the Fuhrman and Wilson show.”

“One negotiated with terrorists under Reagan, the other shot a black kid and got away with it. Coming up next, its North and Wilson.”

139 makeitstop  Nov 25, 2014 2:07:56pm

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

he took up the resident curmudgeon cloak after the departure of a few others for slimier fields.

That seems to be the way it goes here. After Albusteve flounced, KT kinda took his spot as LGF’s Grumpy Dude.

140 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:08:07pm

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Some KT classics. It’s when it all went downhill.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

If I recall around that time, I actually checked out an Occupy rally to see what the hype was about and reported on it some here. It wasn’t really any different than your usual lefty rally.

141 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:09:12pm

re: #138 Kragar

“One negotiated with terrorists under Reagan, the other shot a black kid and got away with it. Coming up next, its North and Wilson.”

“One believes 9/11 was an inside job and is a judge, the other didn’t even get tried for killing an unarmed kid. It’s the Officer and the Judge show with Darren Wilson and Andrew Napolitano.”

142 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:11:12pm

re: #139 makeitstop

That seems to be the way it goes here. After Albusteve flounced, KT kinda took his spot as LGF’s Grumpy Dude.

KT at least seemed interested in current events. Steve seemed to have disdain for the fact that we were on a political blog talking about politics. That was just odd to me. He was another though that fell into the whole contrary for the sake of being contrary I’m getting at though. Empty gripes about the “feds” but not really a lot of detail.

143 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 2:11:15pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

May I reiterate again how not sorry I am to see Killgore thrown out on his ass?

re: #92 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

He’s really shown his true face.

re: #93 OhNoZombies!

If it looks like a duck…
I guess Killgore was a duck after all.
Good riddance.

It’s because he no longer needs to put up a front to stay withing Charles’ good graces; like Todd Kincannon, KT is free to let his freak flag fly and his id be unrestrained.

144 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 2:12:13pm

In most places, being contrary for its own sake is otherwise known as trolling, if that’s all you ever add to the discussion.

145 Jenner7  Nov 25, 2014 2:12:43pm

:::sigh:::

146 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:12:56pm

re: #144 klystron

In most places, being contrary for its own sake is otherwise known as trolling, if that’s all you ever add to the discussion.

Yeah it is. I’m a stubborn bastard though so I had to poke the proverbial stick.

147 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:14:12pm

re: #144 klystron

In most places, being contrary for its own sake is otherwise known as trolling, if that’s all you ever add to the discussion.

NO ITS NOT!

148 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 2:14:12pm

KT who?

Time to step over the bodies, not poke them with a stick.

149 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 2:14:48pm

re: #147 Kragar

NO ITS NOT!

Yes it is.

150 Varek Raith  Nov 25, 2014 2:14:59pm

re: #147 Kragar

NO ITS NOT!

No, no it’s not!

151 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:15pm

Yes!

152 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:20pm

No!

153 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:27pm

BEES.

154 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:28pm

re: #149 b_sharp

Yes it is.

Malodorous toffee nosed pervert.

155 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:29pm

Dunno.

156 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:37pm

Youtube Video

157 Mattand  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:38pm

Drifting slightly back to topic: my FB feed has been relatively free of smug “Well, justice has been served” horseshit.

The once exception is my cousin, who posted a photo of a car getting overturned (quite possibly from another incident, knowing him) and did a read-between-the-lines complaint of “What’s wrong with these damn black people?”

A few of his friends took the cue and started making asshole comments about rioting over sneakers and the such. My surprise, etc…

What’s funny/irritating is that he got pulled over last week and received a ticket for, according to him, having too many things hanging off of his rear view mirror. Holy fuck, did he bitch about that. The whole “Some of my friends are cops and I thank them for their service but this is unfair wah wah wah.”

I’m willing to bet that not once has it fucking occurred to him to picture that having to deal with that every. Goddam. Day. For driving while minority. There are hard working innocent people who have to endure that shit all the fucking time, and often wind up on the business end of a taser, baton, or bullet for being the wrong skin color.

And the icing on the cake is that he lived for a while in a part of the country that has a large homosexual population, so he’s often posting pro-gay stuff. I guarantee you, in his mind, he can’t be racist because he’s not homophobic, so there.

It’s making his Troofer leanings seem positively charming in comparison.

158 Varek Raith  Nov 25, 2014 2:15:44pm

Bob Johnson!
Oh wait…

159 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 2:16:14pm

re: #154 Kragar

Malodorous toffee nosed pervert.

What? I came here for an argument!

160 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 2:16:23pm

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Dunno.

I agree. 100%.

161 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 2:16:29pm

re: #148 b_sharp

KT who?

Time to step over the bodies, not poke them with a stick.

Aw man!
{throws stick down , crosses arms, and pouts}

162 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:16:37pm

re: #153 klystron

BEES.

Bee Gees.

163 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 2:17:19pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

What? I came here for an argument!

I don’t think so.

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2014 2:17:58pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

I want to reiterate something I said months back during the lead-up and trial of Zimmerman: My attitude was based upon my interpretation of the law and the evidence as presented, not a personal belief that Zimmerman was innocent. I continue to maintain that, had the prosecution and LEO acted in a competent fashion, a conviction on at least a second-degree charge would have been possible.

That is exactly the issue with the Ferguson PD. They seemed to do everything possible to ensure that any evidence or testimony that reached a jury would be incomplete or tainted.

165 Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2014 2:19:24pm

Beating the dead, racist horse:

166 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:19:27pm
167 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 2:19:43pm

re: #157 Mattand

Of course, they only see the violence and assume that this is about an isolated incident. That the people are reacting to failure to indict a white cop, rather than the display that has been put on for the people of the community. About how this whole incident proved that there’s two sets of laws: One for the white cops who police the community and the other for everybody else. Wilson likely has never been pulled over for being a couple miles over the limit, never had to sit in a courtroom to pay a ticket that was less than $100, or dealt with being arrested for “failure to appear” because the doors to the courtroom closed at 10 til rather than on the posted time.

168 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:20:00pm

re: #162 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Bee Gees.

We’re talking about politics,
talking about real important issues.

Youtube Video

169 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:21:44pm

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

Beating the dead, racist horse:

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Speaking of juvenile records. Wonder if Chuckles has ever heard of Fred Malek. Seriously google that name. Big name in GOP power breaking circles who tortured a dog with some friends. Actually now that I look at it. Malek was 22 when this happened.

170 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:21:57pm

re: #166 Kragar

stlamerican.com

171 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:24:24pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Speaking of juvenile records. Wonder if Chuckles has ever heard of Fred Malek. Seriously google that name. Big name in GOP power breaking circles who tortured a dog with some friends.

Is it Nixon’s Jew-counter?

172 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:24:41pm

re: #170 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

stlamerican.com

noted

173 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:25:32pm

re: #171 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

Is it Nixon’s Jew-counter?

I believe so. I remember that coming up when McCain hired him all the while Barack Obama was accused of being an Antisemite.

174 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 2:26:26pm

re:
#172

That Knockouts Bar & Grill looks like a mighty fine dining establishment….

175 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:27:01pm
176 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:27:17pm

re: #170 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak

stlamerican.com

Thanks. I’ll point that out in the future. Still think he should have recused himself though.

177 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:28:09pm

re: #175 Kragar

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He means Darren Wilson right?

178 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:28:13pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Thanks. I’ll point that out in the future. Still think he should have recused himself though.

Definitely

179 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:28:56pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Fischer absolutely agreed, saying that “the chances are very good” that Wilson was literally locked in battle with a homicidal demon that was possessing Brown during the altercation.

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

180 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 2:29:05pm

re:
#157

And at this point it’s not easy to determine who is reacting violently and for what reasons. The situation there has apparently attracted a range of knuckleheads of varying persuasion. Most people upset with the decision have protested peacefully, from what I can tell.

181 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 2:30:34pm

re:
#175

Bryan Fischer Says Michael Brown Was Possessed By A Homicidal Demon

a terribly ineffective homicidal demon, since there’s no indication Brown killed anyone. But thanks for playing, Bryan.

/

182 Mattand  Nov 25, 2014 2:30:47pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

Of course, they only see the violence and assume that this is about an isolated incident. That the people are reacting to failure to indict a white cop, rather than the display that has been put on for the people of the community. About how this whole incident proved that there’s two sets of laws: One for the white cops who police the community and the other for everybody else. Wilson likely has never been pulled over for being a couple miles over the limit, never had to sit in a courtroom to pay a ticket that was less than $100, or dealt with being arrested for “failure to appear” because the doors to the courtroom closed at 10 til rather than on the posted time.

My cousin’s related to a former cop who is absolutely unapologetic about harassing any black person who dare to drive through their town.

I also know for a fact he’s been dropping the Ni-CLANG since he was about four.

One of these days, I’m going to go to one of these family Xmas parties, actually speak my mind when they crank this shit up, and wind up in intensive care for the rest of my life.

183 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:30:52pm

re: #179 Kragar

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

That guy is more crazy than Pat Robertson and more hateful than Jerry Falwell. Impressive guy really.

184 Islamo-Masonic Vourdalak  Nov 25, 2014 2:31:00pm

re: #175 Kragar

That would have been comical if not for the millions who believe in this shit.

185 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:31:41pm
186 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 2:32:10pm

I am about fucking tired of this horseshit.

187 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:33:10pm

re: #185 Kragar

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As opposed to liberal demonizing of Christian conservatives which you know is terrible things like calling them for what they actually say.

188 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2014 2:33:46pm

Well, on the positive side, for me, today is my Friday. Not working Wednesday or Friday. Got the rest of the week to myself. And to the kittehs, one of whom is going to the vet for a follow up visit tomorrow.

189 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 2:33:52pm

re: #175 Kragar

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You have to hand it to Wilson’s attorneys/handlers. They knew the buzzwords for the audience.

Although I will still never get over “It’s like he was getting mad because I was shooting at him”.

190 Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2014 2:34:54pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Speaking of juvenile records. Wonder if Chuckles has ever heard of Fred Malek. Seriously google that name. Big name in GOP power breaking circles who tortured a dog with some friends. Actually now that I look at it. Malek was 22 when this happened.

Heck, you know that “journalism” award chuckles is always bragging about. It was named after a guy with a felony drug conviction.

191 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:35:36pm

re: #189 Mike Lamb

You have to hand it to Wilson’s attorneys/handlers. They knew the buzzwords for the audience.

Although I will still never get over “It’s like he was getting mad because I was shooting at him”.

That one stood out to me too. Does Wilson honestly think that someone wouldn’t get mad because they were shot at? But yeah the guy knows his audience. I am sure his interview on ABC will be filled with “oh poor me, I was the victim of hateful people.”

192 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 2:35:37pm

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That is exactly the issue with the Ferguson PD. They seemed to do everything possible to ensure that any evidence or testimony that reached a jury would be incomplete or tainted.

In a just world, the Ferguson PD would have been disbanded and McCulloch and his cronies would be brought up on charges of prosecutorial misconduct.

This is not a just world.

193 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 25, 2014 2:35:53pm

re: #114 nicdanger

My favorite from that era was “Why change dicks in the middle of a screw,re-elect Nixon in ‘72”.But I showed him,I voted for Pat Paulson that year.The first and last vote I ever wasted.

A classmate of mine had a “Lick Dick in ‘72” campaign button. What can I say? We were 8th graders.

194 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:36:11pm

re: #190 Ace-o-aces

Heck, you know that “journalism” award chuckles is always bragging about. It was named after a guy with a felony drug conviction.

Which guy was that? And I know Chuckles himself has some questions about his own past as a kid.

195 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Nov 25, 2014 2:36:52pm

re: #192 TedStriker

In a just world, the Ferguson PD would have been disbanded and McCulloch and his cronies would be brought up on charges of prosecutorial misconduct.

This is not a just world.

And someone would slap some sense into Jay Nixon. Or perhaps offer him a spine implant.

196 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 2:38:23pm

re: #182 Mattand

My cousin’s related to a former cop who is absolutely unapologetic about harassing any black person who dare to drive through their town.

I also know for a fact he’s been dropping the Ni-CLANG since he was about four.

One of these days, I’m going to go to one of these family Xmas parties, actually speak my mind when they crank this shit up, and wind up in intensive care for the rest of my life.

How have you kept your mouth shut?

197 Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2014 2:39:46pm
198 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 2:41:05pm

One of my #Ferguson Tweets just got retweeted by accounts named “I HATE ISRAEL” and “EternalIntifada”

No thanks fuckers. Blocked & muted.

199 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:46:40pm

re: #197 Ace-o-aces

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Not sure how Bryan feels about Catlicks. Know he’s not too high on Mormons though since that seemed to be one of his big reasons for not really liking Mitt that much which is funny since he lives in a state filled with Mormons and he shares a lot of the same theocratic fantasies that many conservative Mormons do.

200 Mattand  Nov 25, 2014 2:48:31pm

re: #196 b_sharp

How have you kept your mouth shut?

It hasn’t been easy. Part fear of getting in a fistfight, part I’m never going to change their minds. My “Insult with intent to humiliate” mode can get out of control pretty quickly, and as much as I detest some of the viewpoints, an Xmas party probably isn’t the best venue for that kind of confrontation.

Also, most of my cousins’s kids are in their 20’s now and are usually drinking pretty heavily at these events. Taking on three generations of institutional racism is fucking suicidal, to be honest.

201 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 2:49:27pm

re: #198 The Vicious Fergushka

One of my #Ferguson Tweets just got retweeted by accounts named “I HATE ISRAEL” and “EternalIntifada”

No thanks fuckers. Blocked & muted.

I just saw a tweet in support of Ferguson from Isis.

O.o

This world is fucked up.

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 25, 2014 2:49:58pm

re: #201 #FergusonFireside

I just saw a tweet in support of Ferguson from Isis.

O.o

This world is fucked up.

Someone just pot stirring.

203 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:51:40pm

re: #201 #FergusonFireside

I just saw a tweet in support of Ferguson from Isis.

O.o

This world is fucked up.

Watch the good folks on TCOT to use that as proof that means protesters are no better than ISIS even though Wilson’s supporters have included the KKK actually threatening violence on protesters.

204 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:52:13pm

re: #202 Feline Fearless Leader

Someone just pot stirring.

ISIS found the Redskins nickname offensive as well. Well in the South Park universe they did.

205 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 25, 2014 2:53:14pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel

“Nixon’s the One!” -1972 campaign slogan.

We’ve got an even bigger one in the twenty-first century.

Did someone say ‘Nixon’?

206 GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 25, 2014 2:53:24pm

Darren Wilson - My conscience is clear. That’s why I hid for months.

207 Sherlock Hound  Nov 25, 2014 2:53:27pm

re: #193 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Before my time, but I was told of a bumper sticker that read, during the depths of Watergate, “Impeach the Cox-Sacker!”

208 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 2:53:56pm

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wilson did nothing wrong by leaving a body lying in the road for hours, failing to file a full report immediately and then going into hiding. And he would do it again because he knows he would get away with it.

Wilson called for backup immediately and it arrived quickly. I don’t think he remained there alone with the body for hours.

209 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:54:37pm

re: #207 Sherlock Hound

Before my time, but I was told of a bumper sticker that read, during the depths of Watergate, “Impeach the Cox-Sacker!”

Heh funny coincidence too given that his daughter married a Cox.

210 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 2:55:44pm

re: #185 Kragar

re: #186 Kragar

I am about fucking tired of this horseshit.

211 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:56:46pm

re: #210 TedStriker

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I still don’t understand how Bryan manages to function with all the demons flying around. I can’t wait for him to be exposed as yet another sexually repressed fundamentalist zealot who has used his own sexual repression to attack other people.

212 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 2:58:39pm

re: #175 Kragar

Well he probably still says “demon alcohol” so ha know…

213 Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2014 2:59:25pm

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

Darren Wilson - My conscience is clear. That’s why I hid for months.

It’s possible to argue about Wilson’s moral or legal fitness, using the cherry-picked evidence available at hand. But his GJ statements and injury photos prove one thing—Wilson is too big a pussy to be a cop anywhere.

214 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 2:59:36pm

re: #212 funky chicken

Well he probably still says “demon alcohol” so ha know…

I myself have been long convinced he’s a time traveler who can’t find his way home. I didn’t know he seriously called alcohol “demon alcohol” though, that’s hysterical.

215 dog philosopher  Nov 25, 2014 3:08:02pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I still don’t understand how Bryan manages to function with all the demons flying around. I can’t wait for him to be exposed as yet another sexually repressed fundamentalist zealot who has used his own sexual repression to attack other people.

surely the next thing for him will be his dog telling him to murder people

216 nicdanger  Nov 25, 2014 3:14:01pm

re: #193 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I had turned 18 that year and thought i was oh-so clever. My Dad,a lifelong Democrat told me repeatedly that McGovern didn’t have a chance of winning.Hence the throw away vote for Paulson.

217 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 3:16:09pm
218 Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2014 3:19:12pm

re: #215 dog philosopher

surely the next thing for him will be his dog telling him to murder people

Poodles are the Devil.

Image: Goethe-Faust-und-der-Pudel-Ramberg%20620x413.jpg

219 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:21:59pm

re: #218 Decatur Deb

Poodles are the Devil.

220 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 25, 2014 3:23:29pm

I’ve been feeling a surprisingly small amount of anger over this. Mostly I feel resignation. It was all pretty much what I expected, right down to wingnuts somehow seeing the evidence of a dreadful beating on Wison’s unblemished cheeks. I almost wish I could feel more angry about than I do.

OT, I’m taking this week off, since I’ve been bouncing off my company’s maximum vacation accrual. This has made the Greyhounds happy:

221 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 3:23:33pm
222 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 3:23:35pm

re: #219 Kragar

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That’s not a poodle.

223 Jenner7  Nov 25, 2014 3:24:04pm

re: #157 Mattand

This was posted by a family member today. I called them out on their racist shit. Racists like this are like bully’s who are hitting their victim over and over and telling them to stop hitting themselves.

224 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:25:39pm

re: #222 b_sharp

That’s not a poodle.

I know, but you know how the Devil twists everything.

Youtube Video

225 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 3:26:59pm

re: #223 Jenner7

Embedded ImageThis was posted by a family member today. I called them out on their racist shit. Racists like this are like bully’s who are hitting their victim over and over and telling them to stop hitting themselves.

Said family member sounds like an asshat.

The ability to think may not be shared by all members of a family.

226 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:29:32pm
227 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 3:30:59pm

My younger brother was the polar opposite of me. A number of years ago he was bitching about ‘indians’ (he meant natives/aboriginals) and how yucky they are, so I asked him about my wife, the only aboriginal he knew personally. His response was ‘but she’s not like a real indian’. I asked why he was so racist, he didn’t think he was.

I had to walk away.

228 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:31:08pm

Not an accident

229 Zamb  Nov 25, 2014 3:32:35pm

Well this popped up on my facebook.

230 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 3:35:09pm

re: #189 Mike Lamb

You have to hand it to Wilson’s attorneys/handlers. They knew the buzzwords for the audience.

Although I will still never get over “It’s like he was getting mad because I was shooting at him”.

I don’t think Wilson knows shit. Now, the PR firm the city hired to defend him, that’s another matter.

231 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 3:35:12pm

re: #228 Kragar

Video of this is linked in my #221.

232 Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2014 3:35:47pm

re: #228 Kragar

Not an accident

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233 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:36:36pm
234 Patricia Kayden  Nov 25, 2014 3:36:41pm

re: #226 Kragar

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Disgusting. Hope he/she spends a lengthy time in jail for attempted murder.

235 Patricia Kayden  Nov 25, 2014 3:37:41pm

re: #229 Zamb

Embedded ImageWell this popped up on my facebook.

And did you respond with an image of White rioters? They riot over silly things like sports, at least so I hear.

236 Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2014 3:40:11pm
237 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 3:44:05pm

This is a perilous time for the country, and for many of the citizens living in it. Our police are armed and trained as you would arm and train an occupying army. They are given body armor, and armored vehicles. They have been removed, physically and psychologically, from the people they are paid to serve, the people who invest in them to take the life of another. And there is a reason because there always is a reason, when some citizen winds up dead. The argument always is that you, the citizen, do not know the pressure these people face, that you never will experience a split-second life and death decision, and that the benefit of a thousand doubts is always justified because, otherwise, you will not be made safe by the people you empower to take a life. As regards to all the incidents cited above, not one person ever served one day in jail. This because there were reasons, and there are always reasons. - Charles Pierce

esquire.com

238 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 3:44:37pm

re: #236 Ace-o-aces

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If that person was still in their car when apprehended, then they were armed.
And still alive…

239 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:45:06pm

re: #238 OhNoZombies!

If that person was still in their car when apprehended, then they were armed.
And still alive…

Obviously they were not possessed by a demon then.

240 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 3:45:41pm
241 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 3:46:47pm

re: #228 Kragar

Not an accident

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Road rage.

242 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 3:46:50pm

re: #240 jaunte

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Or any questions about why his injuries as recorded do not match his testimony.

243 makeitstop  Nov 25, 2014 3:47:03pm

CNN’s Don Lemon opens mouth to change feet.

244 OhNoZombies!  Nov 25, 2014 3:47:09pm

re: #239 Kragar

Obviously they were not possessed by a demon then.

Did anybody get a look at the eyes?
I hear that’s how you can tell.

245 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:48:26pm

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

246 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:50:32pm
247 Dr. Matt  Nov 25, 2014 3:50:51pm

re: #240 jaunte

248 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 3:51:13pm

re: #243 makeitstop

CNN’s Don Lemon opens mouth to change feet.

Hahahahaha. Obviously this guy is an expert on that subject. He might want to abstain before he goes on the air from now on.

249 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 3:51:16pm

I’m a lily white guy, but if I told the cops I’d been punched 10+ times in the face, then told the grand jury on the stand that I’d received two blows, and pictures of my face after the incident didn’t show anything worse than a bit of redness, I’d be headed to trial.

250 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 3:51:38pm

re: #245 Kragar

Another fan of “Our Confederate Heritage” heard from.

251 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 3:52:30pm

re: #245 Kragar

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

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For people who claim to love the South, they sure do despise a good part of it.

252 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 3:53:00pm

re: #245 Kragar

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

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Well the white sheets have all come out of the closet now.

253 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 3:53:34pm

re: #249 Targetpractice

I’m a lily white guy, but if I told the cops I’d been punched 10+ times in the face, then told the grand jury on the stand that I’d received two blows, and pictures of my face after the incident didn’t show anything worse than a bit of redness, I’d be headed to trial.

Yep seriously this stinks more and more. McCulloch sure screwed the pooch big time. Fucker.

254 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 3:53:45pm

re: #245 Kragar

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

Because they’re too fucking cowardly to say ‘n*gger’.

We got the jist well enough, though.

255 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 3:55:25pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yep seriously this stinks more and more. McCulloch sure screwed the pooch big time. Fucker.

On purpose.

256 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 25, 2014 3:55:44pm

re: #245 Kragar

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

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Why didn’t Obama unite America on race?
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257 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 3:56:37pm

re: #249 Targetpractice

I’m a lily white guy, but if I told the cops I’d been punched 10+ times in the face, then told the grand jury on the stand that I’d received two blows, and pictures of my face after the incident didn’t show anything worse than a bit of redness, I’d be headed to trial.

That’s clearly conflicting evidence, and means you are innocent.

Duh.

///

258 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 3:56:43pm

re: #245 Kragar

I’m gonna believe he’s making fun of Pat Dollard. The only brown square in Oklahoma is Lawton, home of Ft Sill, LOL. I’m guessing his demographics are off since OKC has a decent amount of diversity (sorry Charles Barkley).

259 Dr. Matt  Nov 25, 2014 3:57:26pm
260 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:57:27pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yep seriously this stinks more and more. McCulloch sure screwed the pooch big time. Fucker.

McCulloch did not “screw the pooch”

He took the pooch out to a fine restaurant, a concert at the Philharmonic, and then took her to a 5-star hotel and made sweet passionate love to her.

261 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 3:58:01pm

re: #258 funky chicken

I’m gonna believe he’s making fun of Pat Dollard. The only brown square in Oklahoma is Lawton, home of Ft Sill, LOL. I’m guessing his demographics are off since OKC has a decent amount of diversity (sorry Charles Barkley).

You could think that, or you could look at the rest of their timeline.

262 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 3:59:08pm

re: #258 funky chicken

I’m gonna believe he’s making fun of Pat Dollard. The only brown square in Oklahoma is Lawton, home of Ft Sill, LOL. I’m guessing his demographics are off since OKC has a decent amount of diversity (sorry Charles Barkley).

Afraid not.

263 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 3:59:21pm

Racist nutbag.

264 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 3:59:49pm

re: #250 jaunte

Another fan of “Our Confederate Heritage” heard from.

And yet another:

265 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 4:01:05pm

re: #263 jaunte

Embedded ImageRacist nutbag.

266 dog philosopher  Nov 25, 2014 4:01:21pm

re: #245 Kragar

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

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so are the racists going to evacuate their power centers in the south now?

267 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 4:01:31pm

re: #261 klystron

Nope, not gonna do it. I prefer to avoid wading through sewers.

268 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 4:02:19pm
269 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 4:02:45pm

re: #266 dog philosopher

so are the racists going to evacuate their power centers in the south now?

According to that map, they should feel extra safe in the Rio Grande Valley.

270 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 25, 2014 4:03:54pm

re: #261 klystron

You could think that, or you could look at the rest of their timeline.

I looked at the timeline, Klys
271 darthstar  Nov 25, 2014 4:04:40pm

Congratulations, Arkansas, on entering marriage equality. Guys, this doesn’t mean you can marry your brother. Intra-family marriage is still a no-no.

272 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 4:04:46pm

re: #266 dog philosopher

so are the racists going to evacuate their power centers in the south now?

Oh, that would mean I could afford a house in Atlanta. I gotta pack.

273 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 4:05:19pm
274 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 4:06:04pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

See?

275 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 25, 2014 4:06:54pm

re: #273 Kragar

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They appear to have an unconventional definition of the word ‘Free’.

276 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 4:07:17pm

re: #273 Kragar

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Well it’s true. In the “free” South, they didn’t bother with arrests, they just shot those who got “uppity” and lynched the ones who didn’t get shot.

277 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 4:08:00pm

re: #245 Kragar

What the fuck is this mother fucking horseshit?

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PROUD to live in a “Death Zone”

278 funky chicken  Nov 25, 2014 4:08:04pm

re: #273 Kragar

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that these guys never heard of the MO Compromise.

279 Zamb  Nov 25, 2014 4:08:39pm

re: #273 Kragar

To be fair in the old south Wilson probably would have been charged. Though the charge would likely be damage of property rather than murder.

280 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 4:09:20pm

re: #260 Kragar

McCulloch did not “screw the pooch”

He took the pooch out to a fine restaurant, a concert at the Philharmonic, and then took her to a 5-star hotel and made sweet passionate love to her.

Brilliant.

281 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 4:10:08pm

Micheal Hill is apparently the President of the League of the South.

That explains why he is racist confederate shit for brains.

282 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 4:11:05pm

re: #281 Kragar

He’s using S pecial U ntraceable C ode.

283 dog philosopher  Nov 25, 2014 4:12:22pm

re: #281 Kragar

White Christian civilization

“i think it would be an excellent idea”

284 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 4:12:36pm

re: #281 Kragar

Micheal Hill is apparently the President of the League of the South.

That explains why he is racist confederate shit for brains.

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285 darthstar  Nov 25, 2014 4:12:40pm
YUM!
286 HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2014 4:14:51pm

re: #285 darthstar

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Smart man.

287 Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 25, 2014 4:16:07pm

re: #285 darthstar

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He’ll never get that elf evenly cooked that way.

288 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 4:16:17pm

Wow. How much Stupids in one Tweet?

289 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 4:17:12pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

He’ll never get that elf evenly cooked that way.

You just sear it on one side and then bake it in the coals overnight.

290 darthstar  Nov 25, 2014 4:17:47pm
291 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 4:19:35pm

re: #288 The Vicious Fergushka

Wow. How much Stupids in one Tweet?

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Thing is, that’s how this will be spun going forward: Wilson was acquitted, anybody who says otherwise is lying, and the rioting was promoted and supported by the majority of black people across America.

292 darthstar  Nov 25, 2014 4:20:15pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

He’ll never get that elf evenly cooked that way.

The little brass bells on the front of their suits conduct heat well and serve to help roast the top while the fire makes elf cracklins off the back-side.

Besides, they’re kissing cousins to trolls.

293 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 4:22:00pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

Thing is, that’s how this will be spun going forward: Wilson was acquitted, anybody who says otherwise is lying, and the rioting was promoted and supported by the majority of black people across America.

“The Grand Jury settled the matter once and for all. You just need to get over it so we can talk about the War on Christmas and Benghazi.”

294 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 4:23:43pm

re: #263 jaunte

There has only been one ‘cause’ in history worse than the cause of the Confederacy. Nazism.

295 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 4:24:51pm

re: #293 Kragar

“The Grand Jury settled the matter once and for all. You just need to get over it so we can talk about the War on Christmas and Benghazi.”

“The Grand Jury heard the evidence and it reached its conclusion. If you’re unhappy with that, then you’ve obviously no understanding of the rule of law. Now, about these ‘questions’ we still have about Benghazi…”

296 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 4:26:30pm

There seems to be a use for a Twitter account here just to send snarkeets (Sneets for short)

297 Higgs Boson's Mate  Nov 25, 2014 4:26:57pm

re: #245 Kragar

What in the world makes them think that those other states would welcome an influx of poorly educated, Bible thumping crackers?

298 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 4:28:20pm

re: #282 jaunte

He’s using S pecial U ntraceable C ode.

What’s a J ew?

299 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 4:29:38pm

re: #288 The Vicious Fergushka

Wow. How much Stupids in one Tweet?

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And climate change is a hoax, amirite?

300 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 4:31:27pm

re: #223 Jenner7

So much white privilege, so little space.

301 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 25, 2014 4:31:38pm

As a good white Christian boy, I have found my answer to everything that Mr. Hill claims…

Amen!

302 Patricia Kayden  Nov 25, 2014 4:31:58pm

re: #290 darthstar

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So true. Shouldn’t he still be in hiding? I’m pretty sure Brown parents will sue him in civil court where their attorneys can grill him. He should keep his mouth shut.

303 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 4:33:21pm

re: #289 Kragar

You just sear it on one side and then bake it in the coals overnight.

Should be tied much tighter to the spit and the spit lowered.

304 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 4:33:57pm

re: #301 William Barnett-Lewis

As a good white Christian boy, I have found my answer to everything that Mr. Hill claims…

Embedded ImageAmen!

For some reason I find that frightening.

305 Kid A  Nov 25, 2014 4:34:48pm

re: #288 The Vicious Fergushka

Wow. How much Stupids in one Tweet?

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Evolution-denying dingbat said what?

306 gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2014 4:37:22pm

As an attorney, I have a lot of sympathy for Robert McCulloch because of the situation he was put into. It must have been very difficult for a defense attorney to also have to play the role of a prosecuting attorney for the benefit of public perception. On the one hand, he had to pretend to want an indictment and at the same time, he had to vigorously defend the rights of his client, Darren Wilson. There is a reason why this dual role procedure is rarely performed any more.

307 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 4:38:33pm

Another thing I’m getting very quickly sick and tired of is the fence-sitters, the ones who advised “let the process work,” now coming to me to tell me that their interpretation of the evidence as translated by the fucking “liberal” media is all the proof they need to believe that the grand jury was right now to indict.

Meanwhile, it’s not even been 24 hours since the evidence was made public and still there are people going through it with a fine-toothed comb. Anybody who tells you they’ve seen all the evidence and feel it was right not to go to trial is either A) a moron, B) a liar, or C) BOTH

308 Kid A  Nov 25, 2014 4:38:52pm

How does a prosecuting attorney act as a defense attorney at the same time?

309 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 4:39:33pm

re: #306 gocart mozart

As an attorney, I have a lot of sympathy for Robert McCulloch because of the situation he was put into. It must have been very difficult for a defense attorney to also have to play the role of a prosecuting attorney for the benefit of public perception. On the one hand, he had to pretend to want an indictment and at the same time, he had to vigorously defend the rights of his client, Darren Wilson. There is a reason why this dual role procedure is rarely performed any more.

I must say, that’s the best bit of satire I’ve read in awhile.

310 Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2014 4:40:33pm

re: #288 The Vicious Fergushka

Wow. How much Stupids in one Tweet?

The problem is that liberals do not live in an evidence based reality.

Hey, we’re not the ones who think the Earth is 6000 years old.

311 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 4:41:08pm

re: #309 Targetpractice

I must say, that’s the best bit of satire I’ve read in awhile.

Indeed. It was said without the slightest hint of a smile.

312 bubba zanetti  Nov 25, 2014 4:41:36pm

re: #306 gocart mozart

Good to see some Alicubi over here.

313 Kid A  Nov 25, 2014 4:45:35pm

re: #309 Targetpractice

I must say, that’s the best bit of satire I’ve read in awhile.

Fooled the hell out of me. Actually a sarc tag would’ve spoiled it now that I think of it.

314 Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2014 4:47:37pm

re: #306 gocart mozart

As an attorney, I have a lot of sympathy for Robert McCulloch because of the situation he was put into. It must have been very difficult for a defense attorney to also have to play the role of a prosecuting attorney for the benefit of public perception. On the one hand, he had to pretend to want an indictment and at the same time, he had to vigorously defend the rights of his client, Darren Wilson. There is a reason why this dual role procedure is rarely performed any more.

WTF? Simply WTF? You on drugs? An an AG acting both as a prosecutor and a defense lawyer at the same time for the same person?

315 PT Barnum  Nov 25, 2014 4:49:10pm

Evening Lizards

316 Jenner7  Nov 25, 2014 4:49:42pm

re: #314 Bubblehead II

I thought he/she was making a funny…??

317 NJDhockeyfan  Nov 25, 2014 4:49:54pm
318 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 4:50:10pm

Of course Darren Wilson wouldn’t do anything differently. He murdered an unarmed black kid, walked away without facing any consequences, and he pocketed almost $1 million in donations from his racist redneck supporters. Plus now he gets to be a RWNJ media darling and make millions on the grifter circuit.

No wonder his conscience is clean.

319 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 4:51:30pm

re: #314 Bubblehead II

I believe that was a slam on McCulloch. A pretty good one I thought.

320 Kid A  Nov 25, 2014 4:53:17pm

re: #314 Bubblehead II

It’s a joke without the ///. I think.

321 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 4:54:32pm

re: #318 Lidane

Of course Darren Wilson wouldn’t do anything differently. He murdered an unarmed black kid, walked away without facing any consequences, and he pocketed almost $1 million in donations from his racist redneck supporters. Plus now he gets to be a RWNJ media darling and make millions on the grifter circuit.

No wonder his conscience is clean.

Of course, it is…he hit the RWNJ lottery.

All he had to do was kill a young black man who was unarmed and retreating, under the color of law.

322 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 4:56:34pm

re: #321 TedStriker

Of course, it is…he hit the RWNJ lottery.

All he had to do was kill a young black man who was unarmed and retreating, under the color of law.

He has a gun and a badge and he’s white. In the South. He was always going to walk.

323 PT Barnum  Nov 25, 2014 4:56:40pm

re: #318 Lidane

Of course Darren Wilson wouldn’t do anything differently. He murdered an unarmed black kid, walked away without facing any consequences, and he pocketed almost $1 million in donations from his racist redneck supporters. Plus now he gets to be a RWNJ media darling and make millions on the grifter circuit.

No wonder his conscience is clean.

I read a really disgusting diatribe today that basically said “You engage with the police, you run the risk of being shot.” and that Micheal Brown essentially deserved what he got. I didn’t respond, but frankly that tells me that the right of the police to shoot you is supreme to your right to personal safety, even if your safety is what you’re paying the police to protect.

324 Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2014 4:56:49pm

re: #316 Jenner7

I thought he/she was making a funny…??

Not so funny.

325 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 4:56:50pm

re: #314 Bubblehead II

WTF? Simply WTF? You on drugs? An an AG acting both as a prosecutor and a defense lawyer at the same time for the same person?

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It was damn good satire, IMO.

326 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 4:57:17pm

re: #321 TedStriker

All he had to do was kill a young black man who was unarmed and retreating, under the color of law law of color.

FTFY

327 PT Barnum  Nov 25, 2014 4:58:03pm

re: #322 Lidane

He has a gun and a badge and he’s white. In the South. He was always going to walk.

I wish I could downding that sentiment without downdinging your post. It is again the victory of privilege over those without.

328 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 4:59:09pm

Here is a blurb on the CBC about my daughter-in-law winning an International Emmy yesterday.

cbc.ca

If you watch the video you’ll actually see her.

329 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 4:59:12pm

re: #323 PT Barnum

I read a really disgusting diatribe today that basically said “You engage with the police, you run the risk of being shot.” and that Micheal Brown essentially deserved what he got. I didn’t respond, but frankly that tells me that the right of the police to shoot you is supreme to your right to personal safety, even if your safety is what you’re paying the police to protect.

Oh, there are people who will tell you with a straight face that the 12 year old that was killed by a cop for brandishing a toy gun deserved to die because he was a threat to the cop’s life.

Honestly? Stuff like the Brown murder and everything I’ve seen from the right wing these last two days only reinforces my general distrust of the police. They can basically do whatever they want with impunity, especially if they do it to someone that’s not white.

330 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 4:59:34pm

re: #322 Lidane

He has a gun and a badge and he’s white. In the South. He was always going to walk.

What’s the over/under on when Wilson’s gonna get a Fox News gig?

331 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 5:00:43pm

re: #330 TedStriker

What’s the over/under on when Wilson’s gonna get a Fox News gig?

Oh, I’m sure they negotiated that as soon as Michael Brown’s funeral was over.

332 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 5:07:26pm

Got a live one who didn’t bother to read, or understand the autopsy report

Dorsal is back side of the forearm. Ventral is the front. If your hands are up, the dorsal side presents forward. Don’t believe me? Try holding your hands up with your palms facing forward (which is how you’d do it without even trying).

333 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 5:07:36pm
334 Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2014 5:08:38pm

We’ve had a couple of short server episodes today - not sure why. Apache just gets cranky sometimes.

335 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 5:11:42pm

One difference between me and Wilson: Had I killed a man as a cop, I would have spent a whole lot of time going over in my head how I could have done it differently. We’re talking decades. I still beat myself up at times for stupid mistakes I made as a teenager.

336 PT Barnum  Nov 25, 2014 5:12:25pm

re: #335 Belafon

One difference between me and Wilson: Had I killed a man as a cop, I would have spent a whole lot of time going over in my head how I could have done it differently. We’re talking decades. I still beat myself up at times for stupid mistakes I made as a teenager.

That would require you to not be a sociopath

337 b_sharp  Nov 25, 2014 5:13:06pm

re: #334 Charles Johnson

We’ve had a couple of short server episodes today - not sure why. Apache just gets cranky sometimes.

There was a disturbance in the force.

338 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 5:14:18pm

Fuck me, now a wingnut has sent me a link to the Moonie Times, where they’ve got law professors actually arguing that it was a good thing for McCulloch not only to go forward with the prosecution, but also to use the grand jury as a mini-trial. Why? Because it was “fair” to dump all the evidence on them and make them decide what charges they should vote on.

339 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 5:16:38pm

re: #306 gocart mozart

That was a work of art. Bravo.

340 Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2014 5:17:22pm

Night Lizard. I am invoking the I.F. Rule.
Sleep well and may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and you’s

341 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 5:20:00pm

WTFITS washingtonpost.com

Apparently Rep. Peter King (R-idiocracy) suggested that Obama invite Darren Wilson to the White House for a chat.

342 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 5:21:22pm

re: #341 EPR-radar

WTFITS washingtonpost.com

Apparently Rep. Peter King (R-idiocracy) suggested that Obama invite Darren Wilson to the White House for a chat.

343 Jenner7  Nov 25, 2014 5:21:45pm

re: #341 EPR-radar

I get more angry every second. The absurdity of his suggestion. My god. My god. I have lost faith in humanity.

344 Cassidy  Nov 25, 2014 5:21:47pm

I’m sure he does. Bless his heart.

345 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 25, 2014 5:21:59pm

re: #341 EPR-radar

WTFITS washingtonpost.com

Apparently Rep. Peter King (R-idiocracy) suggested that Obama invite Darren Wilson to the White House for a chat.

Only if that’s where they arrest his ass.

346 Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2014 5:22:46pm

re: #341 EPR-radar

WTFITS washingtonpost.com

Apparently Rep. Peter King (R-idiocracy) suggested that Obama invite Darren Wilson to the White House for a chat.

King will probably invite Wilson to be his guest at the SOTU address.

347 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 5:22:47pm

re: #345 William Barnett-Lewis

Only if that’s where they arrest his ass.

No, to rub salt in the fucking wound:

“I think it would be very helpful if President Obama went and met with the police officer or invited him to the White House and said, ‘You’ve gone through four months of smear and slander and the least we can do is tell you that it’s unfortunate that it happened and thank you for doing your job.’ And then try to bring the communities together,” King said in an interview with Fox Business News.

348 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 5:25:10pm

Attention all so-called ‘moderate’ GOPers:

Your votes for the GOP give power to crap stains like Rep. Peter King.

349 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 5:26:06pm

re: #341 EPR-radar

WTFITS washingtonpost.com

Apparently Rep. Peter King (R-idiocracy) suggested that Obama invite Darren Wilson to the White House for a chat.

Wilson: “Mr. President, would you rather I shoot you here in the Oval Office or give you a running start like I did Mike Brown?”

///

350 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 5:26:18pm

re: #341 EPR-radar

WTFITS washingtonpost.com

Apparently Rep. Peter King (R-idiocracy) suggested that Obama invite Darren Wilson to the White House for a chat.

Peter King did more than that:

Rep. Peter King has a suggestion for the White House in dealing with the latest developments in Ferguson - invite Officer Darren Wilson over.

“I think it would be very helpful if President Obama went and met with the police officer, or invited him to the White House and said, ‘You’ve gone through four months of smear and slander, and the least we can do is tell you that it’s unfortunate that it happened and thank you for doing your job,’” the New York Republican told Fox Business on Tuesday.

351 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 5:28:38pm

re: #350 Lidane

I think that Peter King’s most helpful contribution to this situation would be for him to disappear up his own rectum.

If that’s not in the cards, then shutting up for the next 50 years would be a good start.

352 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 5:29:03pm

Perhaps King thinks the way to prevent violence during the Civil Rights era was for LBJ to invite Bull Connor to the White House to apologize for the way the press was responding to his actions and thank him for his service.

353 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 5:29:45pm

re: #347 Targetpractice

No, to rub salt in the fucking wound:

re: #350 Lidane

Peter Kind did more than that:

354 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 5:32:10pm

re: #350 Lidane

“You’ve gone through four months of smear and slander,”

That’s one reason we have trials when someone gets shot to death.

355 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 5:33:51pm

re: #354 jaunte

That’s one reason we have trials when someone gets shot to death.

Trials are for poor people. And blah people. Not for white cops.

356 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 5:33:53pm

re: #308 Kid A

How does a prosecuting attorney act as a defense attorney at the same time?

Very badly. Something has to give. In this case, the prosecutor suit stayed in the closet.

357 De Kolta Chair  Nov 25, 2014 5:35:58pm

Beer Break

Homebrewing of beer with an alcohol content higher than 0.5% remained illegal until 1978 when [the Democratically controlled] Congress passed a bill repealing Federal restrictions and excise taxes and [Democratic] President Jimmy Carter signed the bill, H.R. 1337, into law. (Source: Wikipedia)


CHEERS, JIMMY!
358 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 5:36:06pm

Yes, McCulloch is a guy so dedicated to being “fair” that not once in 24 years has he found reason to bring charges against a cop for a wrongful death. Even in a case where a federal investigation later found that the cops he’d refused to charge had lied their asses off in their official report.

359 Jenner7  Nov 25, 2014 5:36:42pm

One comment I’ve had to deal with:

black college sports, black music awards. yes Jenny, they want everything. everything but responsibility.
how racist can you get?

could you imagine the “caucasian music awards”?

Blacks are racist, see? They want everything, but no responsibility. I’m dumbfounded.

360 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 5:37:39pm

‘I am overwhelmed’: Acts of kindness in the midst of rage in Ferguson

Loyal customers, guardian angels
The Jenkinses knew their restaurant was not so badly damaged. They’d seen video of protesters locking arms in front of the place to protect it from vandals.
“I wish I knew who they were,” said Jerome Jenkins, “because I really would like to thank them.”

361 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 5:39:20pm
362 gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2014 5:39:37pm

re: #314 Bubblehead II

Trade in your Bovine Excrement Meter for a Sarcasm Meter.

363 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 5:39:52pm

OT: My Step Mom’s Virginia Corn pudding and this for my Thanksgiving vegetable contribution:

copykat.com

Trying to upload image but just get the spinning wheel of death.

364 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 5:40:12pm

re: #359 Jenner7

One comment I have to deal with:

could you imagine the “caucasian music awards”?

I thought they called that the “Country Music Awards”

365 Single-handed sailor  Nov 25, 2014 5:43:20pm

re: #362 gocart mozart

Trade in your Bovine Excrement Meter for a Sarcasm Meter.

He can’t, it’s broked.

366 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 5:44:35pm

re: #364 The Vicious Fergushka

And the Grammys. Why else do Macklemore and Eminem (both of whom I like) win rap awards?

367 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 5:44:57pm

Now in LGF Pages

368 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 5:45:14pm

re: #364 The Vicious Fergushka

I thought they called that the “Country Music Awards”

Pretty much…and I live in Nashville.

Last I looked, Charley Pride and Darius Rucker (of Hootie & the Blowfish fame) are the only two major country artists that aren’t lily-white; hell, Pride was the only major black country artist for decades, until Rucker crossed over from radio pop rock.

369 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 5:47:04pm

And look who decided to chime in:

370 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 5:48:22pm

re: #369 Kragar

Being proud of being treasonous bastards.

I’ll bet they think they’re Real Americans. Pfft.

371 Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2014 5:49:14pm

re: #369 Kragar

And look who decided to chime in:

Kragar_LGF There are a lot more of us than you know … and the numbers grow daily.

Must be why it’s getting harder to find decent bedding around here.

372 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 5:50:25pm

re: #369 Kragar

There are a lot more of us than you know … and the numbers grow daily.

Just like facial mites.

373 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 5:51:15pm

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Must be why it’s getting harder to find decent bedding around here.

374 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 5:54:49pm

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Must be why it’s getting harder to find decent bedding around here.

“We have sheets in all sorts of colors, except white…those are selling faster than we can stock them!”

///

375 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 25, 2014 5:55:31pm

re: #369 Kragar

And look who decided to chime in:

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A nice reminder that the Union should have treated the South at least like the English treated the highlands in 1745.

376 Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2014 5:56:01pm

Caucasian music

Youtube Video

377 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 5:56:57pm

re: #375 William Barnett-Lewis

A nice reminder that the Union should have treated the South at least like the English treated the highlands in 1745.

Or how the Allies treated Germany after WWII with de-Nazification.

378 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 6:02:53pm

re: #375 William Barnett-Lewis

A nice reminder that the Union should have treated the South at least like the English treated the highlands in 1745.

re: #377 TedStriker

Or how the Allies treated Germany after WWII with de-Nazification.

Seriously. The United States should have come down like a ton of bricks on every Confederate traitor and every Southern state. They let them get off far too easy.

379 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 25, 2014 6:02:54pm

re: #377 TedStriker

The US did not do anywhere near as much as people think. Too many given cushy positions in the states and the ones that stayed got to be in charge of thinks like DP camps full of former forced labor slaves and Jews.

The only thing worse was how many Japanese criminals were let off by MacArthur in the name of anti-communism.

380 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 6:03:21pm

re: #377 TedStriker

Or how the Allies treated Germany after WWII with de-Nazification.

Sherman should have managed Reconstruction and told Hayes to fuck off.

381 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:05:43pm

So the protester to media is 1:1

I might just watch The Walking Dead (my usual event Monday nights) It must not have been an epic episode, since I have run across zero spoilers.

382 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 6:07:52pm

re: #381 #FergusonFireside

I might just watch The Walking Dead (my usual event Monday nights) It must not have been an epic episode, since I have run across zero spoilers.

It had its moments, but it largely served as a setup for the midseason finale.

383 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:09:53pm

But the protests across the country are amazing.

So many people see the injustice.

384 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 6:16:27pm

re: #383 #FergusonFireside

But the protests across the country are amazing.

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So many people see the injustice.

See this is what matters. At the end of the day it’s just up to us to foment change. I put an interesting end to a rather heated conversation today. Long story short the punchline was “Shut The Hell Up. Argument stops at unarmed teenager again’.

Today I have no interest in arguing details of distances and the letter of the law. Those facts failed us. This fact is what matters. It was an unarmed kid again. Fuck. How much else needs to be known. Police got all this training all this gear. It Was An Unarmed Kid. Repeat.

385 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:17:27pm

re: #384 Indy GOP Refugee

See this is what matters. At the end of the day it’s just up to us to foment change. I put an interesting end to a rather heated conversation today. Long story short the punchline was “Shut The Hell Up. Argument stops at unarmed teenager again’.

Today I have no interest in arguing details of distances and the letter of the law. Those facts failed us. This fact is what matters. It was an unarmed kid again. Fuck. How much else needs to be known. Police got all this training all this gear. It Was An Unarmed Kid. Repeat.

And Wilson says he wouldn’t do anything differently.

Sociopath.

386 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:19:05pm

re: #384 Indy GOP Refugee

No, you’re not getting the picture. He wasn’t a kid, he was a monstrous thug, as big and strong as Hulk Hogan, and possessed by a demon.

That’s what the GJ heard.

Oh, what’s that tiny voice over there in the corner saying? “Objection”?

Sorry, but there are no objections allowed while the defense lays out its case.

387 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 6:23:59pm

re: #385 #FergusonFireside

Yeah ya know what an asshole. “I was in fear for my life” is boilerplate. “He was gonna kill me” or “he attacked despite all my…” might have the ring of truth. AFAIK he had a rage on and he skated. Even if Michael Brown (and I’m not sayin it’s so) was charging the gun is too much force. See that video of a kid in the subway taking a stick to the head? The right weapon against an unarmed assailant is the stick. Or taser or mace. Not the fucking gun. Sheesh I should step back a bit don’t wanna just go off.

388 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:25:37pm

re: #387 Indy GOP Refugee

Wilson said he wasn’t wearing a taser because it was too uncomfortable, and he didn’t use mace because he didn’t want to get any in his eyes.

389 Romantic Heretic  Nov 25, 2014 6:27:15pm

re: #328 No Nay Meh

Here is a blurb on the CBC about my daughter-in-law winning an International Emmy yesterday.

cbc.ca

If you watch the video you’ll actually see her.

Very cool. Congratulations to her.

390 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:27:49pm

re: #385 #FergusonFireside

Let that one stick in your craw for a bit.

Maybe if his client wasn’t a sociopath and had feelings of remorse for killing Brown, we might just…. no, I wont say believe him, because there’s nothing to believe. He made statements that are preposterous and will not be held to account in a criminal court of law because the system worked exactly as it should. It shielded a cop from criminal liability for killing someone - all because Wilson said the magic words - he feared for his life.

Every cop knows, or has reason to know what to say if they shoot someone dead - an unarmed person. They can say they feared for their own life. And in many states, that’s a bar to prosecution, or at least an affirmative defense.

Combined with a prosecutor who never indicts a cop for criminality - excessive force, let alone officer involved shootings, and Wilson wasn’t going to get indicted like a ham sandwich.

391 Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2014 6:28:08pm
392 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:29:22pm

re: #387 Indy GOP Refugee

Add to that the statement that he didn’t like the Taser.

He trusted his talisman. The gun. That’s what he went for, and that’s what he used.

When all you see are nails, you use the hammer.

393 Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2014 6:29:52pm

He has a red area on his right lower lip. According to right wing Twitter this is a reason to gun someone down without mercy.

394 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 25, 2014 6:29:58pm

My Hometown:
October 25th 1994. I was a part of a large group of young people protesting after Lexington KY Police shot Tony Sullivan who was surrendering to officers. Tony had his hands up, just like Mike Brown. The officer of course would later not be indicted.

Fast forward 20 years and exactly one month later. Doing it again…

395 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:29:58pm

Well, there’s at least one bright spot today:

396 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:30:33pm

re: #390 lawhawk

What was the witness # who wrote out the perfect scenario, how they traveled to Ferguson, by chance, on that day to get right with the people they called ni-clang’s??

That was the most absurd piece of shit that I read today.

Someone please do a page.

397 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 6:30:48pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

Actually thats just shame at what he did.

Okay he has no shame but should be…

398 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:31:27pm

re: #391 Charles Johnson

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I wish him the most unhappy ever after.

I’m sure he will get that no matter.

399 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:32:07pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

Cold sore?

Cops have been assaulted with motor vehicles and apprehended without shots fired (recently a PAPD cop arrested a man who did just that at the GWB a few months back). Cops have been killed, and the killer was apprehended without shots fired.

Serial killers have been captured without shots fired.

But this? [deleted]

400 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:33:49pm

Oh snap.

401 klystron  Nov 25, 2014 6:33:58pm

re: #396 #FergusonFireside

What was the witness # who wrote out the perfect scenario, how they traveled to Ferguson, by chance, on that day to get right with the people they called ni-clang’s??

That was the most absurd piece of shit that I read today.

Someone please do a page.

Ah, yes, witness #40, whose journal entry sounds suspiciously like the account leaked to the press by the “girlfriend.”

402 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 6:34:19pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

He has a red area on his right lower lip. According to right wing Twitter this is a reason to gun someone down without mercy.

In the state where we live the law says specifically an attack with fists is not a lethal attack. that means you don’t get to beat/stab/shoot anyone to death over a bloody nose or black eye. But of course that’s just us civilians. Just one of those things I learned when teaching self defense back a few years.

403 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:34:31pm

re: #396 #FergusonFireside

What was the witness # who wrote out the perfect scenario, how they traveled to Ferguson, by chance, on that day to get right with the people they called ni-clang’s??

That was the most absurd piece of shit that I read today.

Someone please do a page.

No need. Here, you can read it for yourself.

documentcloud.org

404 Romantic Heretic  Nov 25, 2014 6:35:54pm

re: #367 Kragar

Now in LGF Pages

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Well, he worships a deity crimson skinned and cloven hoofed so he would know.

405 darthstar  Nov 25, 2014 6:36:07pm
406 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 6:36:54pm

I mentioned earlier about a link to the Moonie Times, well here it is:

Legal scholars praise Ferguson grand jury for fairness beyond the norm

Legal experts across the country agree that while the process that led to a grand jury’s decision not to indict Officer Darren Wilson for killing Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, was unusual, it was not unfair. Rather if it was anything unusual, it was in its fairness and openness.

Lawyers and academics told The Washington Times that, despite their personal opinions on the case, which has sparked riots over police brutality, St. Louis county prosecutor Robert McCulloch sought unbiased justice in presenting the jury with every piece of evidence and then making that evidence public.

“It was the most thorough grand jury investigation that I’ve ever heard of,” said Stephen Saltzburg, a professor of law at George Washington University Law School.

The shit just gets deeper from there. Yes, they have found lawyers and law professors who think it good that a prosecutor used a grand jury as a trial in order to avoid taking a cop to trial for wrongful death.

407 Romantic Heretic  Nov 25, 2014 6:37:19pm

re: #369 Kragar

And look who decided to chime in:

Michael Hill @MichaelHill51

@Kragar_LGF There are a lot more of us than you know … and the numbers grow daily.

Good. I appreciate a target rich environment. *evil grin*

408 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 6:37:54pm

re: #403 Skip Intro

It’s also a Balloon Juice page, balloon-juice.com, not that it can’t be one here as well.

409 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:39:04pm

re: #401 klystron

Ah, yes, witness #40, whose journal entry sounds suspiciously like the account leaked to the press by the “girlfriend.”

That is one of the most fucked up things I’ve ever heard.

The deck was fucking fabricated.

410 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:39:19pm

re: #408 Belafon

It’s also a Balloon Juice page, balloon-juice.com, not that it can’t be one here as well.

If I could find a translation of the handwriting, I’d post it. This is all I’ve got, and for me it’s damned near impossible to read.

411 gwangung  Nov 25, 2014 6:39:48pm

re: #388 Skip Intro

Wilson said he wasn’t wearing a taser because it was too uncomfortable, and he didn’t use mace because he didn’t want to get any in his eyes.

So he’s admitting he’s a clumsy incompetent fuck?

412 Sionainn  Nov 25, 2014 6:40:23pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

He has a red area on his right lower lip. According to right wing Twitter this is a reason to gun someone down without mercy.

Looks like he needs some Chapstick.

413 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:40:43pm

re: #408 Belafon

It’s also a Balloon Juice page, balloon-juice.com, not that it can’t be one here as well.

That’s where I saw it. By Betty Cracker. Thanks for the repost.

414 nearly-headless smith25  Nov 25, 2014 6:41:28pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

He has a red area on his right lower lip. According to right wing Twitter this is a reason to gun someone down without mercy.

French fries were too hot. Gotta blow them shits off first.

415 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 6:42:36pm

re: #410 Skip Intro

See comment #9: balloon-juice.com

416 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 6:43:39pm

There is an old tradition from radio station KLOS in Los Angeles Play this song on Thanksgiving, and i just thought maybe it would be a fun distraction from current events for a few minutes. So I offer you all Arlo Guthrie and Alices Restaurant. Just for the random fun. All 23 minutes.

Video

417 Sionainn  Nov 25, 2014 6:44:44pm

re: #416 Indy GOP Refugee

There is an old tradition from radio station KLOS in Los Angeles Play this song on Thanksgiving, and i just thought maybe it would be a fun distraction from current events for a few minutes. So I offer you all Arlo Guthrie and Alices Restaurant. Just for the random fun. All 23 minutes.

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I’ve always loved that song. Thanks.

418 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:45:22pm

re: #411 gwangung

So he’s admitting he’s a clumsy incompetent fuck?

I’m surprised he didn’t throw in that he also didn’t want to get his hair all mussed up.

419 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:45:54pm
420 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 6:46:34pm

re: #413 #FergusonFireside

I’m fascinated by the fact that Charles and John go after each other so much since I personally spend most of my time switching between their websites.

421 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:47:28pm

How is it that Wilson is still claiming that he chased Brown all of 30-45 feet when the actual incontrovertible evidence from the scene indicates a distance 3x that far.

422 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:47:57pm

re: #421 lawhawk

How is it that Wilson is still claiming that he chased Brown all of 30-45 feet when the actual incontrovertible evidence from the scene indicates a distance 3x that far.

He’s a liar.

423 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 6:48:38pm

The protesters have shut down parts of the FDR Drive and various other highways and roads around NYC. No word on any arrests - and things seem to have gone peacefully thus far here - and in Newark.

424 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 6:49:33pm

re: #391 Charles Johnson

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Looks like he has a fat lip, or is that a herpes sore?

425 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 6:49:44pm

Who?

426 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Nov 25, 2014 6:51:37pm

Please note that once again, it is impossible that the shooting victim was a flawed person, or damaged, or that this was a tragedy of human nature wherein he made bad choices on the last day or the last minute of his life.

What is flooding the internet is that Michael Brown has to be a horrible person that deserved to die. His violence had to be malefic and mad, not the violence of a teenage boy. His flaws have to be great and terrible, not small and stupid.

I’ve said before, if everything went as the officer said, this shooting would have been necessary. But we have a society that doesn’t want to reflect on the implicit sadness of grim utilitarian decisions. We want heroes and villains; we want bold righteous action.

This cannot be a sad event from any perspective. It is not enough that he died—it must be deserved.

And there will be no thoughts about how his guilt is derived. The entire point is to *not* think. Feel sad about people who didn’t fuck up. Feel outrage about “real” victims who can’t be criticized.

And never, ever, think about how damnable guilt—the guilt that evaporates the life of dead, leaving only the moment of their death—is discerned only in the disenfranchised.

427 stpaulbear  Nov 25, 2014 6:51:53pm

re: #420 Belafon

I’m fascinated by the fact that Charles and John go after each other so much since I personally spend most of my time switching between their websites.

Same here. I never visited either site before they bailed on conservatism, so I’ve enjoyed both sites for as long as I’ve known them. I do miss DougJ over at BJ though.

428 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 6:51:53pm

re: #419 lawhawk

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Fuck me sideways, they not only allowed him to bag his own gun as evidence, they didn’t even test it for fingerprints? And he was allowed to wash blood off his hands?

There’s only two ways to interpret all this: incompetence or corruption. There is no third option.

429 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 6:53:31pm

re: #425 #FergusonFireside

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Who?

My account is doomed.

This spade is actually a spade
430 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:53:55pm

re: #428 Targetpractice

Fuck me sideways, they not only allowed him to bag his own gun as evidence, they didn’t even test it for fingerprints? And he was allowed to wash blood off his hands?

There’s only two ways to interpret all this: incompetence or corruption. There is no third option.

It’s far beyond incompetence. It’s corruption cubed, and they’re not even trying to hide it.

431 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 6:53:57pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

He has a red area on his right lower lip. According to right wing Twitter this is a reason to gun someone down without mercy.

Looks like herpes.

432 stpaulbear  Nov 25, 2014 6:54:22pm

re: #428 Targetpractice

incompetence or corruption

Why not both? They’ve been incredibly incompetent at their corruption.

433 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 6:54:51pm

re: #429 Indy GOP Refugee

“But we were playing hearts!”

434 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 6:56:11pm

re: #430 Skip Intro

It’s far beyond incompetence. It’s corruption cubed, and they’re not even trying to hide it.

Yeah, I can’t imagine why McCulloch released all this shit to the public, except perhaps to rub their noses in it.

435 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 6:58:15pm

re: #434 Targetpractice

Yeah, I can’t imagine why McCulloch released all this shit to the public, except perhaps to rub their noses in it.

The same reason he delayed the GJ announcement nearly a half hour last night, then babbled for another 45. It’s a big Fuck You to everyone who thinks police ought to be held accountable for their actions.

436 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 6:59:16pm

re: #434 Targetpractice

I’m pretty sure McCulloch is assuming that since he didn’t indict Wilson, there’s nothing anyone else can do.

437 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 6:59:29pm

re: #434 Targetpractice

Yeah, I can’t imagine why McCulloch released all this shit to the public, except perhaps to rub their noses in it.

Per the local authorities: “Of course there is and will be no justice, and you will all just have to accept it”.

To hell with that garbage.

438 Mike Lamb  Nov 25, 2014 7:01:02pm

King suggesting that Obama invite Wilson over to give him an “atta boy” is right up there with the horrible person that MLK and Jesus require praying for Wilson.

439 stpaulbear  Nov 25, 2014 7:01:52pm

re: #383 #FergusonFireside

I had a doctor’s appointment after work tonight and decided to take Lake Street instead of 94 from St. Paul to Uptown. I got caught in the Mpls. protest traffic and just barely made it to the dr’s on time after taking a huge detour to the south. The picture looks like it came from the U of M’s protest. Looks like it’s taken on I-35W near where the bridge collapsed into the river.

440 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 7:02:10pm

re: #436 Belafon

I’m pretty sure McCulloch is assuming that since he didn’t indict Wilson, there’s nothing anyone else can do.

By releasing all the evidence he’s basically saying “Here it is, fuckers, and there’s nothing you can do about it”.

441 EPR-radar  Nov 25, 2014 7:02:52pm

re: #436 Belafon

I’m pretty sure McCulloch is assuming that since he didn’t indict Wilson, there’s nothing anyone else can do.

I’m really hoping that the Department of Justice can find some way to prove McCulloch very, very, wrong about this. Preferably with McCulloch facing Federal charges.

442 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 7:03:11pm

“…The answer is not having a higher standard for the people than for the police. The answer is not demanding that black people get mad about and solve the problem of crime in Chicago before we get mad about the slaughter of a teen boy just outside St. Louis.

We can be, and have been, and are mad about both. Violence is the effect, not the cause of the concentrated poverty that locks that many poor people up together with no conceivable way out and no productive way to channel their rage at having an existence that is adjacent to the American dream. This kind of social mendacity about the way that racism traumatizes black people individually and collectively is a festering sore, an undiagnosed cancer, a raging infection threatening to overtake every organ in our body politic…”

443 Skip Intro  Nov 25, 2014 7:05:01pm

re: #438 Mike Lamb

King suggesting that Obama invite Wilson over to give him an “atta boy” is right up there with the horrible person that MLK and Jesus require praying for Wilson.

There’s no other way to look at it other than it’s King’s way of saying “We think you ought to kiss Darren Wilson’s ass, boy”.

444 Belafon  Nov 25, 2014 7:05:43pm

re: #442 jaunte

We can be, and have been, and are mad about both. Violence is the effect, not the cause of the concentrated poverty that locks that many poor people up together with no conceivable way out and no productive way to channel their rage at having an existence that is adjacent to the American dream.

And the whites that fit this description - those who think there’s a 2nd amendment solution to everything - are the same ones who think killing black people would take us back to better times.

445 TedStriker  Nov 25, 2014 7:08:52pm

re: #440 Skip Intro

By releasing all the evidence he’s basically saying “Here it is, fuckers, and there’s nothing you can do about it”.

And, by releasing all of that info where it gets onto the eternal Internet, he’s poisoned most potential jury pools anywhere that could be used in either a federal or civil case.

Thin blue line indeed.

446 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 7:09:29pm

re: #442 jaunte

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Wow so well said.

447 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 7:11:12pm

re: #429 Indy GOP Refugee

That’s not the Spade you’re looking for…
448 The Vicious Fergushka  Nov 25, 2014 7:11:15pm

Gah. For some reason Tweetdeck unmuted all the wingnutcrazyshits that I muted.

Now hosing down wingnutcrazyshits from Tweetdeck toilet walls.

449 austin_blue  Nov 25, 2014 7:12:06pm

People killed by cops between August 9, 2014 and September 1, 2014: 84

Cops killed by people between August 9, 2014 and September 1, 2014: 5

And that, apparently, is just okey-dokey. They used to work for us. We still pay their salaries. But they no longer Protect and Serve. It used to be their job to risk their lives, when necessary. Part of the job.

Now they protect their lives, at all costs, even if it means killing innocents or people who can otherwise be subdued.

It’s the militarization of your local beat cop and it has gotten completely out of control.

450 lawhawk  Nov 25, 2014 7:16:40pm

re: #449 austin_blue

And we saw that in action during the protests following the Brown shooting too - a militarized police that had snipers targeting peaceful protesters with armed and loaded weapons - firing tear gas and depriving people of their civil rights through detentions and arrests that were not legal or proper (including journalists covering the protests).

We can’t sweep any of this under the rug. And we can’t ignore any of it because riots also happened to occur - incited in part because a justice system and law enforcement failed the community because instead of serving and protecting the community, they have turned and treated the community as the enemy.

451 austin_blue  Nov 25, 2014 7:18:33pm

re: #450 lawhawk

And we saw that in action during the protests following the Brown shooting too - a militarized police that had snipers targeting peaceful protesters with armed and loaded weapons - firing tear gas and depriving people of their civil rights through detentions and arrests that were not legal or proper (including journalists covering the protests).

We can’t sweep any of this under the rug. And we can’t ignore any of it because riots also happened to occur - incited in part because a justice system and law enforcement failed the community because instead of serving and protecting the community, they have turned and treated the community as the enemy.

That’s exactly right.

452 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 25, 2014 7:18:34pm

re: #449 austin_blue

People killed by cops between August 9, 2014 and September 1, 2014: 84

Cops killed by people between August 9, 2014 and September 1, 2014: 5

And that, apparently, is just okey-dokey. They used to work for us. We still pay their salaries. But they no longer Protect and Serve. It used to be their job to risk their lives, when necessary. Part of the job.

Now they protect their lives, at all costs, even if it means killing innocents or people who can otherwise be subdued.

It’s the militarization of your local beat cop and it has gotten completely out of control.

They have always only been there to “protect & serve” the 1%. Often that means taking care of the middle class too but not always and when push comes, they get the stick too.

It’s just more blatant these days than it used to be and there’s no night time propaganda like “Adam-12” or “Dragnet” helping us to pretend.

453 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 7:23:34pm
454 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 7:29:02pm
455 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 7:31:02pm
456 William Barnett-Lewis  Nov 25, 2014 7:32:10pm

This. Is. Good.

An analogy for white people: Walking while black, in the US, is as deadly as being a redshirt on Star Trek.

My dear fellow white science-fiction fans, let me use an analogy to try to explain one reason why people are so angry about what’s happening in Ferguson.

If you only watch one episode of Star Trek (original series), the fact that a guy in a red shirt dies is tragic, but eh— that’s television. But when you watch the entire series, you realize that a disproportionately high percentage of people wearing red shirts die.

It’s not that Captain Kirk has it out for people in red shirts. Heck, one of his best friends wears a red shirt. And Scotty never gets killed, so clearly not all red shirts die. And bad things happen to Kirk, too. But still— when you start paying attention, it’s pretty clear that wearing a red shirt in Star Trek is a death sentence.

That’s the thing that I see a lot of white people failing to understand about the anger surrounding the Mike Brown case. It’s not just one teenager and one cop. It’s a long series. When you start looking at the statistics, you can’t ignore that a disproportionately high number of African-Americans have been killed by cops every year for decades upon decades.

More here:
maryrobinettekowal.com

457 The Ghost of a Flea (R)  Nov 25, 2014 7:45:19pm
458 gwangung  Nov 25, 2014 7:46:26pm

Um.

459 ipsos  Nov 25, 2014 7:48:27pm

Reading through my FB feed tonight, here’s what strikes me: when this many of your fellow Americans are taking to the streets, one can either show some curiosity about why they feel so strongly…or find a way to deny, dismiss or devalue them. I choose the former, as do most of us here at LGF. I wish more of my “friends” would do the same.

460 Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2014 7:51:11pm

re: #458 gwangung

Um.

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Tuskegee’s statistics don’t support that.

law2.umkc.edu

461 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 7:56:43pm

re: #455 #FergusonFireside

Seen Enough

Video

462 #FergusonFireside  Nov 25, 2014 7:57:35pm

Yeah, I’m out. Night all.

463 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 8:02:33pm

Sleep well east coast and central Lizards. The morning abides.

464 Viscous Obama  Nov 25, 2014 8:04:49pm

re: #263 jaunte

Do all confederates have cephalic growth disorders or is that just the standard artistic depiction of one?

465 dog philosopher  Nov 25, 2014 8:04:58pm

can i interest you in a nice used ebola?

slightly used

466 Kragar  Nov 25, 2014 8:06:14pm

re: #464 Viscous Obama

Do all confederates have cephalic growth disorders or is that just the standard artistic depiction of one?

It’s the inbreeding.

467 teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2014 8:08:08pm

A couple of folks in the ski shop today made some snide remarks about Ferguson. “Riots are awesome!” “Burn down your town to make a point, fucking stupid.” “Maybe he [Michael Brown] shouldn’t have been such a thug.” (all actual quotes I heard today).

I bit my tongue and tried to change the subject. It made me sad.

468 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 8:11:44pm

re: #384 Indy GOP Refugee

See this is what matters. At the end of the day it’s just up to us to foment change.

Dozens of children died at Sandy Hook and nothing changed. What makes you think a white cop murdering a black kid is going to change anything?

Today I have no interest in arguing details of distances and the letter of the law. Those facts failed us. This fact is what matters. It was an unarmed kid again. Fuck. How much else needs to be known. Police got all this training all this gear. It Was An Unarmed Kid. Repeat.

He wasn’t an unarmed kid. He was a violent black demon and wanted felon who deserved to die.

He’s no better than the young thug who got killed pointing a toy gun at a police officer. They both deserve what they got. Obey the cops or die. It’s that simple.

/2014 right wing

469 teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2014 8:15:11pm

I am the epitome of white privilege. I regularly participate in one of the most wasteful sports imaginable, not to mention the steep price of admission (skiing). The only time I’ve been hassled by the cops is because I deserved it. I’ve attained some employment that has ample opportunity for advancement. When I can I travel. I’ve always lived in safe neighborhoods.

White guilt. 100%. Not ashamed, just the facts.

470 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 8:15:43pm

re: #468 Lidane

Dozens of children died at Sandy Hook and nothing changed. What makes you think a white cop murdering a black kid is going to change anything?

He wasn’t an unarmed kid. He was a violent black demon and wanted felon who deserved to die.

He’s no better than the young thug who got killed pointing a toy gun at a police officer. They both deserve what they got. Obey the cops or die. It’s that simple.

/2014 right wing

I simply do not share your cynicism. Never give up.

471 makeitstop  Nov 25, 2014 8:16:22pm

re: #468 Lidane

They both deserve what they got. Obey the cops or die. It’s that simple.

/2014 right wing

I can’t tell you how many of my friends said exactly that on Facebook today.

I unfriended every last one of them.

This country’s in a fucking bad place right now.

472 gwangung  Nov 25, 2014 8:17:24pm

re: #467 teleskiguy

A couple of folks in the ski shop today made some snide remarks about Ferguson. “Riots are awesome!” “Burn down your town to make a point, fucking stupid.” “Maybe he [Michael Brown] shouldn’t have been such a thug.” (all actual quotes I heard today).

I bit my tongue and tried to change the subject. It made me sad.

So….what makes them think the rioters were black? Or even local?

I can think of one reason….

473 Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2014 8:17:50pm

re: #468 Lidane

Dozens of children died at Sandy Hook and nothing changed. What makes you think a white cop murdering a black kid is going to change anything?

He wasn’t an unarmed kid. He was a violent black demon and wanted felon who deserved to die.

He’s no better than the young thug who got killed pointing a toy gun at a police officer. They both deserve what they got. Obey the cops or die. It’s that simple.

/2014 right wing

Apparently we’re to treat our cops like soldiers. They’re to be obeyed without question, as failure to do so is itself a crime. If they feel we present a danger to them, no matter how non-threatening our actions are, then they’ve the legal authority to execute us. Even if we run away, they can shoot us in the back and claim self-defense. After all, who’s going to believe a dead man?

474 teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2014 8:20:42pm

On a cursory look at the comments, I saw that Stanley Sea posted photos of protests from all across the country.

Obama was right last night, it’s not just a Ferguson, MO problem, it’s an American problem.

475 teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2014 8:21:34pm

re: #472 gwangung

So….what makes them think the rioters were black? Or even local?

I can think of one reason….

Oh I know. Hence why I quickly changed the subject.

476 Jenner7  Nov 25, 2014 8:22:42pm

This is what I’ve heard all day:

If you don’t want to be stereotyped, don’t be a stereotype.

477 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 8:23:33pm
478 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 8:26:25pm
479 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 8:27:55pm

re: #470 Indy GOP Refugee

I simply do not share your cynicism. Never give up.

It’s not cynicism when the evidence is on your side.

The simple fact in this country is that minority lives don’t matter, and cops can kill with impunity because the badge turns them into modern day saints who do no wrong.

480 makeitstop  Nov 25, 2014 8:28:31pm

Heh. If you follow Jim Wright on Facebook, go check his latest post. He got a hate tweet from some dude, and he went looking at the guy’s feed and outed him as a foot fetishist. The comments are hilarious.

Wright knows how to push wingnut buttons better than just about anybody.

481 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 8:29:08pm
482 dog philosopher  Nov 25, 2014 8:29:58pm

re: #477 jaunte

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oafkeepers?

483 teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2014 8:31:46pm
484 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 8:35:02pm

re: #483 teleskiguy

Ugh. I’m dreading the holidays this year. Between immigration, Darren Wilson getting away with murder, and the general idiocy of the GOP these days, I really don’t want to deal with any of my RW relatives. It’s bad enough seeing people I know pull some variation of the Mike Brown was a felon that deserved to die! card. Being around people I’m related to and hearing that would be depressing as shit.

485 jaunte  Nov 25, 2014 8:35:57pm
486 Lidane  Nov 25, 2014 8:38:22pm

re: #485 jaunte

Clearly those white men are brave patriots defending America from violent thugs.

Why do you hate America?

/////////////////////

487 teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2014 8:40:17pm

re: #484 Lidane

My mother and my aunt haven’t been on speaking terms for close to two decades. It’s weird, really. They both shut each other out pretty much equally. My aunt lives in Missouri and is a devout Catholic. My mother lives in Colorado and likes to smoke pot and go to rock concerts.

Because of this, our side of the family is largely immune to crazy holiday seasons. The past few years especially have been very nice, now that my nieces and nephews can form coherent thoughts on their own.

:-D

488 Swift2991  Nov 25, 2014 9:10:47pm

To say that he has a clear conscience and that he would do nothing different only proves proves that he has no conscience.

489 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 25, 2014 9:48:07pm

re: #479 Lidane

The evidence is about the present. I consider the future.

490 lostlakehiker  Nov 26, 2014 10:41:11am

re: #31 lawhawk

And that the law gives so much deference to cops to use deadly force that even if the entire situation was captured on video and there was sufficient audio, he would still probably get off because he feared for his life.

The law needs to be adjusted.

The first thing that needs to be done is to get cameras for all police. That way we would at least know for a fact whether it was hands up or not. We would know whether Brown ran at Wilson or walked. We would know all sorts of things.

As it is, the grand jury had to try and sort out the conflicting testimony of witnesses. It is now beyond question that some witnesses say they saw things that didn’t happen. Some of the testimony is just flat wrong and we know it’s wrong. Some of it is wrong because it directly contradicts other testimony to the same part of the story, but without footage, we just don’t know which testimony is wrong. Everybody has his own opinion as to which account makes more sense, but those opinions are all over the map as well. And we didn’t get to hear the testimony in person and gauge credibility.

With the law as it is now, and with the conflicting testimony, if an indictment had been brought, a conviction would still have been improbable.

491 klystron  Nov 26, 2014 2:28:58pm

re: #490 lostlakehiker

Man, it’s really funny, but we have this mechanism that is supposed to sort out what evidence to weigh more, etc.

It’s called a trial.

The folks who are supposed to sort out the conflicting testimony? That’s supposed to be the jury, having had both a prosecuting attorney and a defense attorney presenting their case and point out inconsistencies. Not a ‘prosecuting attorney’ acting as a defense attorney and torpedoing the entire case before it gets to that point.


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