Meet the Press Interview: Is Ben Carson the Most Extreme GOP Candidate in This Race?

Soft-spoken lunacy

PoliticsOctober 2015 • Views: 56,137

It’s still a little shocking to me how extreme and irrational the Republican Party has become, and folksy soft-spoken creationist Ben Carson is a great example. He’s not a bomb-throwing insult-spewing loon like Donald Trump, but Carson is possibly even more extreme in his opinions and positions — and in Iowa this week, he actually pulled ahead of Trump in the polls for the first time.

His rise in the polls is a direct result of his expressions of extremism; the Republican voting base responds to craziness like Pavlov’s dogs to a bell.

Here’s his full interview with Chuck Todd on Meet the Press, to show what I’m talking about. Carson defends his continual use of Nazi comparisons, wants Roe v. Wade overturned and says he would not allow abortions for victims of rape or incest, wants the Department of Education to “police” propaganda on campuses (and by “propaganda” he means liberal concepts and ideas), thinks Americans should be able to own any weapons the federal government owns, and has an absolutely bizarre idea for health insurance.

But at least he no longer tries to attack people with knives, rocks, hammers or baseball bats.

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252 comments

Skip Intro Oct 25, 2015 • 11:50:02am

Yes, he is.

Meanwhile,

Chris Christie Kicked Off Amtrak Quiet Car For Being Too Loud

time.com

dholmes32 Oct 25, 2015 • 11:53:40am

I think he’s just the most vocal of a bunch of candidates who would like to do the very same thing. Carson just doesn’t know when to shut up.

allegro Oct 25, 2015 • 11:55:00am

re: #1 Skip Intro

Yes, he is.

Meanwhile,

Chris Christie Kicked Off Amtrak Quiet Car For Being Too Loud

time.com

Is anyone else besides me surprised that Christie was even on an Amtrak? I would think it beneath him.

Skip Intro Oct 25, 2015 • 11:55:31am

re: #1 Skip Intro

Yes, he is.

Meanwhile,

Chris Christie Kicked Off Amtrak Quiet Car For Being Too Loud

time.com

It gets better.

“After breaking the cardinal rule of the quiet car, the Governor promptly left once he realized the serious nature of his mistake,” said Christie spokesperson Samantha Smith. He “enjoyed the rest of his time on the train from the cafe car.”

The perfect place for Christie.

Feline Fearless Leader Oct 25, 2015 • 11:57:53am

re: #3 allegro

Is anyone else besides me surprised that Christie was even on an Amtrak? I would think it beneath him.

Pretty dependable though compared to the other options in the East Corridor.

And if I recall correctly Christie’s predecessor Corzine got injured in a traffic accident due to speeding in an SUV.

Skip Intro Oct 25, 2015 • 11:58:02am

Carson also said that an abortion to save the mother’s life is “something we can talk about”.

Mighty big of you, Ben. Who is this “we” you’re referring to?

Feline Fearless Leader Oct 25, 2015 • 11:58:32am

re: #6 Skip Intro

Carson also said that an abortion to save the mother’s life is “something we can talk about”.

Mighty big of you, Ben. Who is this “we” you’re referring to?

Him and God. Of course.

Eclectic Cyborg Oct 25, 2015 • 11:59:30am

Carson gets major wingnut cred for several reasons:

1) He’s Black - Sounds silly, but conservatives are all about MBFing their apparent racism and saying: “Hey, check this out! We’re cool with black people!”

2) He actually IS a Doctor. A LEGIT Doctor. Unlike Rand Paul who licensed himself, Carson is an honest to goodness neurosurgeon and he’s had a lot of success in that field. To Conservatives that means he’s a highly intelligent man who knows what he’s doing.

3) He’s good in conversation. To conservatives he comes off as a well read, well spoken voice that’s something of a softer alternative to a blowhard like Donald Trump.

4) He’s got the religious right ground game down pat. Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz are in the same arena when it comes to religion but Carson is center stage. Trump has largely ignored religion in his campaign and so long as he continues to do so, it’s advantage Carson.

Lidane Oct 25, 2015 • 11:59:57am

This poll about Ben Carson shows just how messed up American politics is right now https://t.co/3NAm2B1exq pic.twitter.com/DGWS40MHQf

— i100 (@thei100) October 25, 2015

Eclectic Cyborg Oct 25, 2015 • 12:00:44pm

re: #9 Lidane

The juxtaposition with your post and mine is very interesting. :P

dholmes32 Oct 25, 2015 • 12:04:32pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

Carson also said that an abortion to save the mother’s life is “something we can talk about”.

Mighty big of you, Ben. Who is this “we” you’re referring to?

People like Ben Carson, whose ancestors were enslaved, ought to think very, very hard about the idea of making women slaves to fetuses. We do know what happens when that kind of crazy gets in place. Savita Halappanavar died from an infection in Ireland when she began to miscarry her fetus, but because of Ireland’s insane laws regarding abortion, her life meant absolutely nothing compared to the fetus’. Whenever I see an anti-abortion person talking about “abortion stopping a beating heart,” I like to ask, “so what about the heart of the woman? does she count? or is she just some sort of container? oh wait, don’t answer that, I know the answer—you see her as a container for a not-yet-here person who counts more in your mind.”

Yeah, it’s rude, but I’m tired of this bullshit. Even if Roe were overturned tomorrow, women will continue to get abortions. They’ll just go back to doing what was done before 1973, which is get a safe abortion in another country if she’s rich, or risk her life for an unsafe abortion. (Today, we’ve even got abortion pills, but who knows if that drug pusher is really giving you an abortion pill, or some fake?) And these are the same asshats who are against birth control as well.

No, they don’t think of women as human. We’re just containers for some men’s expectations, and sperm.

Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 12:05:21pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump has tried to appeal to the religious right, but his insincere pandering, waving a Bible around like a magic talisman, is so freaking obvious even the fanatics can tell he’s not being straight.

Carson, on the other hand, is absolutely sincere about his fanaticism. I don’t believe he’s pandering at all; this is really what he believes.

Joe Bacon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:05:23pm

re: #9 Lidane

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That poll proves that the Republican Party has mutated into Monty Python’s Silly Party.

The Mountain That Blogs Oct 25, 2015 • 12:05:35pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Rand Paul is an actual doctor, his issue comes when he tries to call himself a board certified ophthalmologist, which is more an issue of licensing than one of training.

/MD quibble

Timothy Watson Oct 25, 2015 • 12:06:57pm

CHUCK TODD:
So you’re not saying there should be a limitation on what type of weapon a sane person should be able to buy?

DR. BEN CARSON:

Of course not. You know, when we put this amendment in place, you know, state-of-the-art weapon was what? A musket? But the principle was that the citizenry should have, you know, access to whatever they needed in order to protect themselves from an overly aggressive government.

Remember folks, Iran shouldn’t have a nuclear bomb, but each and every American citizen should.

Maybe I can get one of these:

meteor Oct 25, 2015 • 12:10:37pm

Election Night Special

stpaulbear Oct 25, 2015 • 12:13:19pm

re: #15 Timothy Watson

But the principle was that the citizenry should have, you know, access to whatever they needed in order to protect themselves from an overly aggressive government.

This is dangerous.

allegro Oct 25, 2015 • 12:14:14pm

re: #15 Timothy Watson

Remember folks, Iran shouldn’t have a nuclear bomb, but each and every American citizen should.

Maybe I can get one of these:

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And he’s running on “commom sense.” Can’t ya just feel it?

Eclectic Cyborg Oct 25, 2015 • 12:16:14pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Trump has tried to appeal to the religious right, but his insincere pandering, waving a Bible around like a magic talisman, is so freaking obvious even the fanatics can tell he’s not being straight.

Carson, on the other hand, is absolutely sincere about his fanaticism. I don’t believe he’s pandering at all; this is really what he believes.

Oh I agree completely. Him and the rest of the GOP field other than Trump and Bush.

I was saying I think Conservatives feel Carson is the most intelligent and genuine out of all the True Believers(tm) running for President.

FormerDirtDart Oct 25, 2015 • 12:19:20pm

re: #15 Timothy Watson

CHUCK TODD:
So you’re not saying there should be a limitation on what type of weapon a sane person should be able to buy?

DR. BEN CARSON:

Of course not. You know, when we put this amendment in place, you know, state-of-the-art weapon was what? A musket? But the principle was that the citizenry should have, you know, access to whatever they needed in order to protect themselves from an overly aggressive government.

Remember folks, Iran shouldn’t have a nuclear bomb, but each and every American citizen should.

Maybe I can get one of these:

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Well, how else am I supposed to keep all those federal drones from spying on me?

Eclectic Cyborg Oct 25, 2015 • 12:19:22pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

This is dangerous.

Agreed. That wasn’t the principle at all. The principle was: Well damn, we don’t really have much of a standing army and we need to make sure this new country of ours is safe. So, to take care of that, we’ve decided that citizens can have guns under the expectation that, if shit goes down and our nation comes under attack, they’ll be trained and ready to defend it.

Now of course I never said it was a good principle…

The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 12:20:30pm

LOL once in a while a wingnut drops the mask and tells you what side they’re really on.

Me, when Martial Law begins #tcot #pjnet pic.twitter.com/GZiFF7gnmo

— WendyH67 (@HerringWendy) October 25, 2015

Timothy Watson Oct 25, 2015 • 12:22:37pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

Well, how else am I supposed to keep all those federal drones from spying on me?

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A MEDIC ON A GUN?! WAR CRIME!!1!

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Oct 25, 2015 • 12:22:53pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

so she’d be a nazi?

Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 12:24:44pm

The thing about the whole “2nd amendment exists to protect against tyranny” business ignores is that A) the Constitution includes amongst the reasons that the newly created federal government could raise a militia was to put down insurrections and B) treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution and it is about taking up arms against the duly-elected government.

Only in the minds of the Moron Label crowd did the Founders find themselves thinking that they needed people to be ready to tear down the government if they didn’t like what it was doing.

dholmes32 Oct 25, 2015 • 12:27:14pm

re: #14 The Mountain That Blogs

Rand Paul is an actual doctor, his issue comes when he tries to call himself a board certified ophthalmologist, which is more an issue of licensing than one of training.

/MD quibble

He set up his own licensing board, which is not the standard ophthalmology licensing board.

FormerDirtDart Oct 25, 2015 • 12:28:14pm

re: #23 Timothy Watson

A MEDIC ON A GUN?! WAR CRIME!!1!

Actually, medics are allowed to use any means necessary to protect their patients. Just means you can shoot them too, and it wouldn’t be a war crime

Feline Fearless Leader Oct 25, 2015 • 12:28:28pm

en.wikipedia.org

Just more grist for the mill

Eclectic Cyborg Oct 25, 2015 • 12:28:43pm

re: #14 The Mountain That Blogs

Rand Paul is an actual doctor, his issue comes when he tries to call himself a board certified ophthalmologist, which is more an issue of licensing than one of training.

/MD quibble

He’s an actual doctor for sure, but he’s nowhere near well spoken, even by wingnut standards. In other words, RWNJs don’t take Rand Paul seriously anymore, PhD or not.

Belafon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:29:14pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

This is dangerous.

And false.

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:29:34pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

LOL once in a while a wingnut drops the mask and tells you what side they’re really on.

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Freikorps, just after WWI. Note the long bayonet hanging from the back of the kneeling rifleman’s belt and the officer’s relatively plain peaked cap. The rifles are Gewehr 98 Mausers and the officer’s pistol is a Pistole 08 Luger.

The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 12:29:54pm

re: #24 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

so she’d be a nazi?

Probably grabbed that photo from Google image search and doesn’t even realize it’s nazis. But yeah.

Timothy Watson Oct 25, 2015 • 12:29:55pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

Actually, medics are allowed to use any means necessary to protect their patients. Just means you can shoot them too, and it wouldn’t be a war crime

I thought it was a war crime to use the Red Cross to “protect” a military asset or something.

The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 12:30:25pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Freikorps, just after WWI. Note the long bayonet hanging from the back of the kneeling rifleman’s belt and the officer’s relatively plain peaked cap. The rifles are Gewehr 98 Mausers and the officer’s pistol is a Pistole 08 Luger.

Thanks, Dana!

Belafon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:30:33pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Is she the photographer, or the officer in charge of the military, or one of the soldiers imposing martial law?

allegro Oct 25, 2015 • 12:31:59pm

re: #35 Belafon

Is she the photographer, or the officer in charge of the military, or one of the soldiers imposing martial law?

In reality she’d be the bug under his boot.

Timothy Watson Oct 25, 2015 • 12:32:55pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Freikorps, just after WWI. Note the long bayonet hanging from the back of the kneeling rifleman’s belt and the officer’s relatively plain peaked cap. The rifles are Gewehr 98 Mausers and the officer’s pistol is a Pistole 08 Luger.

Allegedly an execution of a communist by Freikorps in 1919:
historicphotographs.blogspot.de

gwangung Oct 25, 2015 • 12:36:30pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

The thing about the whole “2nd amendment exists to protect against tyranny” business ignores is that A) the Constitution includes amongst the reasons that the newly created federal government could raise a militia was to put down insurrections and B) treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution and it is about taking up arms against the duly-elected government.

Only in the minds of the Moron Label crowd did the Founders find themselves thinking that they needed people to be ready to tear down the government if they didn’t like what it was doing.

Frankly, in the 21st Century, a cellphone camera is way more useful at checking government tyranny.

Tellingly, guess who’s against THAT….

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:39:48pm

re: #33 Timothy Watson

I thought it was a war crime to use the Red Cross to “protect” a military asset or something.

It can be, but the use of military equipment as a ambulance with a Red Cross or Crescent is allowed. Such equipment is not supposed to be armed, but that prohibition only holds true if the enemy respects that medivac unit’s non-combatant status.

Thus during WWII, US and British medical vehicles used in Northwest Europe and in the Mediterranean were unarmed, as Germany and Italy abided by the rule where Western Allied medical units were encountered. However, in the Pacific Theater and in Burma, such vehicles and planes had to be armed, since Japan had no respect for the non-combatant rule.

FormerDirtDart Oct 25, 2015 • 12:40:49pm

re: #33 Timothy Watson

I thought it was a war crime to use the Red Cross to “protect” a military asset or something.

Yes, but that deals mostly with equipment/structures/facilities. Medics are different, in protected status as long as they are not fighting

Eric The Fruit Bat Oct 25, 2015 • 12:42:47pm

Worth a repost: from the Encyclopedia of American Loons: Dr. Ben Carson.

Diagnosis: Yes, he is dishonest to the core and there’s certainly a lot of pandering going on here, but it is hard to get around the conclusion that, despite his achievments as a neurosurgeon, Carson is pretty stupid. He lacks the most fundamental critical thinking skills, and is pathologically unable to distinguish evidence from whatever-he-wants-to-believe. Given his current influence among wingnuts he is also frighteningly dangerous.

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:43:15pm

re: #37 Timothy Watson

Allegedly an execution of a communist by Freikorps in 1919:
historicphotographs.blogspot.de

Not necessarily Nazis then, as the Nazi party was in its infancy at the time and most Freikorps men did not belong to it.

But the poster is signalling a desire to have his or her political enemies killed in the event of martial law.

Skip Intro Oct 25, 2015 • 12:44:06pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Not necessarily Nazis then, as the Nazi party was in its infancy at the time and most Freikorps men did not belong to it.

But the poster is signalling a desire to have his or her political enemies killed in the event of martial law.

I’d say that wish applies to around 1/3 of your party these days.

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:44:26pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Thanks, Dana!

Eh? I was just giving some historical detail. It’s what I do, and you know I have an interest in that time period.

The Mountain That Blogs Oct 25, 2015 • 12:45:47pm

re: #26 dholmes32

Yup, which is why he is not a board certified ophthalmologist, and is being dishonest if and when he markets himself as such.

bratwurst Oct 25, 2015 • 12:48:11pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Eh? I was just giving some historical detail. It’s what I do, and you know I have an interest in that time period.

Some of us see it as gun fetishism, and you know more than a few of us don’t enjoy it.

William Lewis Oct 25, 2015 • 12:51:32pm

re: #46 bratwurst

Some of us see it as gun fetishism, and you know more than a few of us don’t enjoy it.

You complained about the posting of the original issue then, right?

bratwurst Oct 25, 2015 • 12:52:20pm

re: #47 William Lewis

You complained about the posting of the original issue then, right?

I am not sure what you mean, just explaining to DF why he might have got that reaction.

Joe Bacon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:52:45pm

Hey kids, it’s time for today’s Bible lesson from Sarah Palin!

The Ten Commandments

Eric The Fruit Bat Oct 25, 2015 • 12:53:02pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

Like the W54?

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 12:54:22pm

re: #46 bratwurst

Some of us see it as gun fetishism, and you know more than a few of us don’t enjoy it.

Part of IDing units and time period is IDing the weapons used. I didn’t go into detail on the rifle or the pistol because I did think that would bother you. But I considered a basic ID of the firearms seen as a needed part of my identification of the men in the image.

I’m aware of your sensibilities, Bratwurst, but I’m asking you to meet me somewhere in the middle on this one.

Note: I had to mention the bayonet as being long because WWII bayonets were shorter and so its a key recognition feature, like the officer’s cap.

CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 12:56:17pm

re: #37 Timothy Watson

Allegedly an execution of a communist by Freikorps in 1919:
historicphotographs.blogspot.de

I’m still trying to figure out how if, as the wingnuts claim, the Nazis were leftists (because of the name “National Socialists”), they why would they fight with other leftists? And if we’re going by names alone, then North Korea must be a democracy just like East Germany was, right? These people are TOO stupid.

bratwurst Oct 25, 2015 • 12:56:47pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Part of IDing units and time period is IDing the weapons used. I didn’t go into detail on the rifle or the pistol because I did think that would bother you. But I considered a basic ID of the firearms seen as a needed part of my identification of the men in the image.

I’m aware of your sensibilities, Bratwurst, but I’m asking you to meet me somewhere in the middle on this one.

Note: I had to mention the bayonet as being long because WWII bayonets were shorter and so its a key recognition feature, like the officer’s cap.

It’s not just me. Again, just giving a theory as to why you might have gotten the reaction you did. Carry on.

Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 1:01:46pm

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 1:01:54pm

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 1:03:27pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out how if, as the wingnuts claim, the Nazis were leftists (because of the name “National Socialists”), they why would they fight with other leftists? And if we’re going by names alone, then North Korea must be a democracy just like East Germany was, right? These people are TOO stupid.

That part I can answer: The Nazis of 1919 (as opposed to a couple years later when Hitler had taken over the party) actually did want most of what is now called ‘socialism’ but they wanted for Germans. They still saw themselves as Germans first.

German Communists of the same time period wanted, to use Trotsky’s words, “nothing short of World Revolution!”. They wanted to eliminate the nation state and establish a Communist world order. As such they considered their first loyalty to communism instead of to Germany. It was in large part on that basis that Freikorps and the German army considered them to be traitors.

CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 1:07:47pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

That part I can answer: The Nazis of 1919 (as opposed to a couple years later when Hitler had taken over the party) actually did want most of what is now called ‘socialism’ but they wanted for Germans. They still saw themselves as Germans first.

German Communists of the same time period wanted, to use Trotsky’s words, “nothing short of World Revolution!”. They wanted to eliminate the nation state and establish a Communist world order. As such they considered their first loyalty to communism instead of to Germany. It was in large part on that basis that Freikorps and the German army considered them to be traitors.

I can assure you the wingnuts making those claims are not making such a fine distinction. Every time they use it—EVERY SINGLE TIME—it’s to conflate some liberal or other with Hiltler and the genocidal, racist Nazis of WWII.

Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 1:09:04pm

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 1:09:45pm

re: #37 Timothy Watson

Allegedly an execution of a communist by Freikorps in 1919:
historicphotographs.blogspot.de

Staged.

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 1:11:21pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker

I can assure you the wingnuts making such claims are not making such a fine distinction. Every time they use it—EVERY TIME—it’s to compare some liberal or other to Hiltler and the genocidal, racist Nazis of WWII.

Yes, but the wingnuts don’t understand how Hitler changed the Nazi party and made the “Socialist” part of its name hollow. it’s a complicated topic and they think because a party once had some serious leftward tendencies it always had them thereafter.

palomino Oct 25, 2015 • 1:14:17pm

re: #47 William Lewis

You complained about the posting of the original issue then, right?

Except the original post wasn’t put up for the purpose of gun fetishism. So why would bratwurst need to complain about that in order to satisfy your need for consistency?

wrenchwench Oct 25, 2015 • 1:17:07pm

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:17:14pm

re: #15 Timothy Watson

I don’t care how “sane” you are, if you have an ICBM in a backyard silo and you have a bad streak (lose a job, get a divorce, face foreclosure), there’s a good chance that you’ll take the world hostage. I mean, if you’ve got nothing else to lose, why not threaten to nuke Citibank?

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Oct 25, 2015 • 1:18:54pm

re: #9 Lidane

This poll about Ben Carson shows just how messed up ~~American politics is~~ GOP primary voters are right now http://

I remain optimistic that this does not represent Americans voting in the general. This will all come back to bite them in the ass.

Blind Frog Belly White Oct 25, 2015 • 1:19:14pm

You waste your time if you try to make sense of wingnut thinking.

Nazis = Bad, Bad = Liberal, therefore Nazis = Liberal.

That really is the whole thought process. All else is rationalization.

palomino Oct 25, 2015 • 1:19:39pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out how if, as the wingnuts claim, the Nazis were leftists (because of the name “National Socialists”), they why would they fight with other leftists? And if we’re going by names alone, then North Korea must be a democracy just like East Germany was, right? These people are TOO stupid.

Of course they weren’t leftists. Communists and actual socialists (as well as small d democrats) were all targets for the regime. And many of them wound up being murdered or thrown in concentration camps.

The “liberal” Nazi is a figment of today’s right wing fevered mind. Kind of like the “benevolent” institution of slavery, it’s something that didn’t really exist but it allows them the imaginary latitude to blame it on the opposing ideology.

Lidane Oct 25, 2015 • 1:19:45pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’ve literally gone from drought to flooding in the blink of an eye.

The Ghost of the Beardsman Oct 25, 2015 • 1:21:54pm

re: #63 KGxvi

I don’t care how “sane” you are, if you have an ICBM in a backyard silo and you have a bad streak (lose a job, get a divorce, face foreclosure), there’s a good chance that you’ll take the world hostage. I mean, if you’ve got nothing else to lose, why not threaten to nuke Citibank?

You’re thinking too big.

After the first private ICBM comes the first domestic violence by radiation exposure, followed by the family annihilation by ballistic missile strike.

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:22:35pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

My AP government teacher, lo this many years ago, explained the political spectrum as more of a horseshoe than a straight line. Fascism and communism might have been on opposite ends of the spectrum based on a philosophical viewing, but on a day to day basis they were quite similar. So, if you looked at the complete political spectrum as a broken circle, it made more sense. At the time, the American spectrum was somewhere in the middle of the overall spectrum - our far left and far right weren’t really that far from the middle. I’m not so sure that’s the case anymore, but the broken circle/horseshoe thing is something that always stuck with me

Jenner7 Oct 25, 2015 • 1:23:18pm

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The Ghost of the Beardsman Oct 25, 2015 • 1:23:45pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Beardsman

“Kansas City is fucking hole in the ground, Karen. Children are shitting out their intestines from radiation poisoning. The region is poisoned for a millenium.

Why did you make me do that? Can’t you do anything right?”

Lidane Oct 25, 2015 • 1:24:07pm

Huh?

Tenn. pastor: Imprison women for abortions because that’s what we do to bald eagle murderers https://t.co/ilE2B16j5T pic.twitter.com/xDVP2g9cEz

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Not a Sparkly Vampire Oct 25, 2015 • 1:25:14pm

re: #15 Timothy Watson

Remember folks, Iran shouldn’t have a nuclear bomb, but each and every American citizen should.

Maybe I can get one of these:

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I’ll take the MIRV version.
fallout.wikia.com

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:25:34pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Beardsman

You may have a point there. And after I hit “post”, I briefly wondered if it really would be a bad thing if someone nuked Citibank (assuming the people were evacuated). Probably seen Fight Club and Mr Robot too many times

Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 1:25:51pm

re: #70 Jenner7

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Hi there.

I’m in tears too!

CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 1:28:54pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

BTW, I would add that it’s my understanding that:

As early as 1925, Adolf Hitler vaguely declared in his political manifesto and autobiography Mein Kampf (“My Struggle”) that he would invade the Soviet Union, asserting that the German people needed to secure Lebensraum (“living space”) to ensure the survival of Germany for generations to come. Nazism viewed the Soviet Union (and all of Eastern Europe) as populated by non-Aryan Untermenschen (“sub-humans”), ruled by “Jewish Bolshevik conspirators”. Mein Kampf said Germany’s destiny was to “turn to the East” as it did “six hundred years ago”. Accordingly, it was stated Nazi policy to kill, deport, or enslave the majority of Russian and other Slavic populations and repopulate the land with Germanic peoples. The Germans’ belief in their ethnic superiority is discernible in official German records and by pseudoscientific articles in German periodicals at the time, which covered topics such as “how to deal with alien populations”.

en.wikipedia.org

I find it odd that the early Nazis would begrudge the Communists their ambition when as early as 1925 it was clear that Hitler wanted to take over the Soviet Union, and by WWII, as much of the rest of the world as he could.

I’m not questioning the veracity of a part of history that you clearly know much more about than I do, I’m just saying that they were very typically hypocritical (i.e. as most extremists are). Extremism seems to cripple one’s critical thinking skills.

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:28:56pm

As an aside, I’m currently sitting in a coffee shop. Just heard someone say this about traveling:

“Well, if my visa in Germany expires do I have to go somewhere else? Like leave the European Union and go to like Norway?”

I stifled a chuckle, only to look up and see someone else doing the same. We both just smiled and shook our heads like “really, you heard that too, right?”

Luckily someone in that conversation pointed out that Norway is part of the EU

Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 1:32:40pm

re: #73 Varek Raith

I’ll take the MIRV version.
fallout.wikia.com

For home defense, no doubt.

CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 1:33:31pm

re: #76 CuriousLurker

I forgot the source link—-reload to view it in the comment.

Blind Frog Belly White Oct 25, 2015 • 1:34:58pm

So, if individuals need guns to fight against oppression by the government of a self-governing nation, who decides what constitutes oppression?

CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 1:35:34pm

Gotta go take care of something. BBL

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:35:48pm

re: #76 CuriousLurker

Communists or not, the Russians fought with the allies during the Great War. If I remember my mid-20th century European history well, a big driving force behind Hitler and the Nazis was resentment against the allies and the terms of surrender.

sagehen Oct 25, 2015 • 1:38:07pm

re: #77 KGxvi

As an aside, I’m currently sitting in a coffee shop. Just heard someone say this about traveling:

“Well, if my visa in Germany expires do I have to go somewhere else? Like leave the European Union and go to like Norway?”

I stifled a chuckle, only to look up and see someone else doing the same. We both just smiled and shook our heads like “really, you heard that too, right?”

Luckily someone in that conversation pointed out that Norway is part of the EU

Waiting for the elevator in my building, with a visiting Brit, I ran into my neighbor (mid-50’s) and his very pretty girlfriend (20’s).

Girlfriend asks my friend, “that’s such a cute accent, where are you from?”
My friend: “London.”
Neighbor’s girlfriend. “Oh, I’ve heard of that. It’s near Amsterdam, right?”

Me, my friend and the neighbor all rolled our eyes; neighbor’s next girlfriend was both age-appropriate, and significantly smarter.

Blind Frog Belly White Oct 25, 2015 • 1:38:27pm

re: #82 KGxvi

Communists or not, the Russians fought with the allies during the Great War. If I remember my mid-20th century European history well, a big driving force behind Hitler and the Nazis was resentment against the allies and the terms of surrender.

Russia was a monarchy while it was in WWI, but dropped out in 1917 what with the Revolution and all, and weren’t parties to the Peace.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Oct 25, 2015 • 1:39:47pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Beardsman

You’re thinking too big.

After the first private ICBM comes the first domestic violence by radiation exposure, followed by the family annihilation by ballistic missile strike.

So unlimited access to all the weapons you can afford
You get to choose which laws to obey and to ignore based on religion
Fetuses are people from the moment of conception and moochers upon birth
seal off all borders and deport all non-legal resident aliens

Sounds like a great way to run a country

Blind Frog Belly White Oct 25, 2015 • 1:40:16pm

re: #83 sagehen

Waiting for the elevator in my building, with a visiting Brit, I ran into my neighbor (mid-50’s) and his very pretty girlfriend (20’s).

Girlfriend asks my friend, “that’s such a cute accent, where are you from?”
My friend: “London.”
Neighbor’s girlfriend. “Oh, I’ve heard of that. It’s near Amsterdam, right?”

Me, my friend and the neighbor all rolled our eyes; neighbor’s next girlfriend was both age-appropriate, and significantly smarter.

Reinforces my lack of interest in much younger women - what would we have to talk about? And there would have to be talk, I’m not a machine!
//

Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 1:42:51pm

re: #76 CuriousLurker

BTW, I would add that it’s my understanding that:

I find it odd that the early Nazis would begrudge the Communists their ambition when as early as 1925 it was clear that Hitler wanted to take over the Soviet Union, and by WWII, as much of the rest of the world as he could.

I’m not questioning the veracity of a part of history that you clearly know much more about than I do, I’m just saying that they were very typically hypocritical (i.e. as most extremists are). Extremism seems to cripple one’s critical thinking skills.

It has to do with the extreme chauvinism of the Nazi Party, which was part of what originally attracted Hitler to it. It was always a very “Germany First!” organization, and that made it an enemy of Communism, which at the time sought to break down national boundaries and identities in favor of new “class identities”.

And lastly, neither Nazism nor Communism was prepared to accept the existence of rival parties. So there was a very real sense that the world was not big enough for the two ideologies and so they were bound to hate and fight each other.

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FormerDirtDart Oct 25, 2015 • 1:45:06pm

re: #73 Varek Raith

I’ll take the MIRV version.
fallout.wikia.com

Fantasy

Reality

bratwurst Oct 25, 2015 • 1:51:22pm

Word is that Ford Motor, because of my constant badgering at packed events, is going to cancel their deal to go to Mexico and stay in U.S.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 25, 2015

Just imagine how much ass he will kick when he’s actually POTUS!!!11!!

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:52:01pm

re: #83 sagehen

Unfortunately for the speaker in this case, she appears to be in her 40s. I’d write it off as her being someone who doesn’t travel and thus doesn’t know better, but from the sounds of it she’s spent time abroad.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Oct 25, 2015 • 1:52:49pm

re: #89 bratwurst

DonaldTrump:
Word is that Ford Motor, because of my constant badgering at packed events, is going to cancel their deal to go to Mexico and stay in U.S.

“Word” as in the voice that is always shouting inside your head?

The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 1:53:05pm

re: #89 bratwurst

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Just imagine how much ass he will kick when he’s actually POTUS!!!11!!

I will log on to the internal corporate news site tomorrow and learn they have an entirely different business reason and Trump played no part in it.

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:53:34pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

This is true. But I’m guessing the resentment was still there, even if they pulled out of the war early

Skip Intro Oct 25, 2015 • 1:53:52pm

More good news for the GOP.

AP-GfK Poll: Republicans View Donald Trump As Most Electable

huffingtonpost.com

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:54:42pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

You mean a multibillion dollar international corporation doesn’t care what a couple hundred (or even thousand) people say at political gatherings?

KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 1:55:29pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

They’ve scratched all the way through the bottom of the barrel and are now just digging into the mud

Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 1:56:39pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

More good news for the GOP.

AP-GfK Poll: Republicans View Donald Trump As Most Electable

huffingtonpost.com

But…but…but Bill Kristol assured us he can’t win the nomination!

Nyet Oct 25, 2015 • 1:57:09pm

re: #24 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

so she’d be a nazi?

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

Probably grabbed that photo from Google image search and doesn’t even realize it’s nazis. But yeah.

Where do you see Nazis on the photo taken in 1919?

stpaulbear Oct 25, 2015 • 1:58:52pm

re: #89 bratwurst

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Just imagine how much ass he will kick when he’s actually POTUS!!!11!!

Word is, everybody does everything to appease ME!!

Or else!

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Nyet Oct 25, 2015 • 1:59:17pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out how if, as the wingnuts claim, the Nazis were leftists (because of the name “National Socialists”), they why would they fight with other leftists? And if we’re going by names alone, then North Korea must be a democracy just like East Germany was, right? These people are TOO stupid.

To quote from my response here:

Personally, I wouldn’t use the argument that the Nazis weren’t socialists because they killed socialists. Note that Stalin killed hundreds of thousands of socialists and communists, incl. most Old Bolsheviks. Internecine warfare is almost a feature with these folks. And Catholics killing Protestants and vice versa doesn’t show that they are not Christians.

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Archangelus Oct 25, 2015 • 2:05:43pm

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you fine lizards!
Just popping in to read a quick thread and say hi, as i’m on very limited internet access time before heading back home - where such access will not be possible, as a short but intense storm (with hail bigger than my fist) has left hundreds of thousands in Israel and almost my entire city without any electricity since the early hours of the morning (it’s almost 11PM here).
No lights, phone, internet and mobile communications are all down, no hot water, no microwave, and the food in the once-icy domain known as the fridge is expected to be on its way to the trashbin soon enough - and how has the national electric company decided to handle the crisis? Have its employees effectively go on strike, I kid you not. Seems like a post-apocalyptic desolation in these parts (the pitch black darkness doesn’t help naturally)…

Stay safe, stay sane, and enjoy what’s left of the weekend while you still can!

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 2:09:46pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

It has to do with the extreme chauvinism of the Nazi Party, which was part of what originally attracted Hitler to it. It was always a very “Germany First!” organization, and that made it an enemy of Communism, which at the time sought to break down national boundaries and identities in favor of new “class identities”.

And lastly, neither Nazism nor Communism was prepared to accept the existence of rival parties. So there was a very real sense that the world was not big enough for the two ideologies and so they were bound to hate and fight each other.

Post edited.

PIMF

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Nyet Oct 25, 2015 • 2:11:02pm

BTW, this photo gives off “staged” vibe.

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wrenchwench Oct 25, 2015 • 2:15:51pm

Time once again for Ben Carson’s favorite game, “Nazi Germany or Slavery.” Contestants take your positions. https://t.co/5kVQDfO4cD

— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) October 25, 2015

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:17:03pm

re: #100 Nyet

To quote from my response here:

Ah, okay. I hadn’t checked back there yet, thanks.

BTW, saw this earlier & saved it for you. I know you don’t need to have it explained to you how awful Kadyrov is, but it might be helpful for giving to people who aren’t familiar with him: Chechnya: The reality behind appearances - Al Jazeera English

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Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 2:19:02pm

I’m pretty convinced that Carson is like Cain, only in it for the publicity and thus the opportunity to sell more of his books. I don’t think he has a serious desire to be president, despite the hopes of his followers.

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:19:06pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

It has to do with the extreme chauvinism of the Nazi Party, which was part of what originally attracted Hitler to it. It was always a very “Germany First!” organization, and that made it an enemy of Communism, which at the time sought to break down national boundaries and identities in favor of new “class identities”.

And lastly, neither Nazism nor Communism was prepared to accept the existence of rival parties. So there was a very real sense that the world was not big enough for the two ideologies and so they were bound to hate and fight each other.

Post edited.

Thanks for the mini history lesson. It always helps to have some context.

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BeenHereAwhile Oct 25, 2015 • 2:19:53pm

Lewis Hamilton wins his third F1 World Championship.

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 2:22:22pm

re: #103 Nyet

BTW, this photo gives off “staged” vibe.

It likely was. Much of German military photography was staged. I don’t know exactly why.

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 2:24:56pm

re: #103 Nyet

BTW, this photo gives off “staged” vibe.

According to the article at the link it is totally staged.

Here’s the “prisoner being executed”

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Nyet Oct 25, 2015 • 2:26:15pm

Hitlerism and Stalinism as actual regimes weren’t opposites, that I can tell you. Yes, there were ideological differences on the surface, but the practice, the aesthetics, the ethos were similar. Which is why 1939 shouldn’t have been such a shock to anyone.

Many liberal-thinking Soviets saw Romm’s classic documentary Mere Fascism as a hidden critique of Stalinism as well, given that the film excerpts from the Nazi propaganda (parades, Hitlerjugend, etc.) were so similar to their Soviet versions.

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 2:27:39pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

I’d actually put Carson closer to Alan Keyes than Herman Cain. Carson will cash in on the wingnut welfare, but I think he honestly believes that he can win because he believes he’s on the side of the righteous

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:28:46pm

re: #111 Nyet

You went—WHOOSH!—over my head, but I’m taking notes anyway.

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 2:31:00pm

PM Justin Trudeau has some sweet Bollywood moves!

And he can dance! Canada’s new prime minister Justin Trudeau living it up with Bollywood Blast back in 2013. https://t.co/NcCoEEzjNW

— New York Times Video (@nytvideo) October 25, 2015

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:32:57pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

PM Justin Trudeau has some sweet Bollywood moves!

[Embedded content]

LOL, gotta love ‘im. I can hear wingnut heads exploding already…

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stpaulbear Oct 25, 2015 • 2:33:43pm

re: #112 KGxvi

I’d actually put Carson closer to Alan Keyes than Herman Cain. Carson will cash in on the wingnut welfare, but I think he honestly believes that he can win because he believes he’s on the side of the righteous

And Alan Keyes was the source of the 27% crazification factor.

Tyrone: 27%.

John: … you said that immmediately, and with some authority.

Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That’s crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.

John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?

Tyrone: Hadn’t thought about it. Let’s split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification — either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.

John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?

Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?

John: … a bit low, actually.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 2:36:50pm

re: #115 CuriousLurker

LOL, gotta love ‘im. I can hear wingnut heads exploding already…

Here ya go, have some stupid wingnut head explosions:

I expect Justin Trudeau, being opposed to bigotry, donned niqab and also feasted at the women-only feast. @bean3ie pic.twitter.com/ViEhiDEZUE

— Basima Faysal (@BasimaFaysal) October 23, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 2:38:17pm

I so have to invite him to my grandson’s Bar Mitzvah in Toronto next year.

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:38:37pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here ya go, have some stupid wingnut head explosions:

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Oh, the multikulti horror of it all. //

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wrenchwench Oct 25, 2015 • 2:43:43pm

re: #119 CuriousLurker

Oh, the multikulti horror of it all. //

He probably had those clothes in his closet, didn’t have to scramble to borrow something that isn’t a suit.

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Ace-o-aces Oct 25, 2015 • 2:46:20pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

2) He actually IS a Doctor. A LEGIT Doctor. Unlike Rand Paul who licensed himself, Carson is an honest to goodness neurosurgeon and he’s had a lot of success in that field. To Conservatives that means he’s a highly intelligent man who knows what he’s doing.

I’m not a fan of Paul, but he is a legitimately licensed physician. The question is his board certification as an ophthalmologist. He was boarded with the American Board of Ophthalmology. He quit of his own volition over a disagreement with policy I won’t bore you with here, and formed his own board. Granted, that’s an extreme action to take, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a “real” doctor.

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:46:38pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

He probably had those clothes in his closet, didn’t have to scramble to borrow something that isn’t a suit.

Inorite? I’m a little bit jealous of the Canadians now.

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:49:15pm

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

PM Justin Trudeau has some sweet Bollywood moves!

[Embedded content]

Here’s a direct link to the .mp4 file, in case anyone wants it: bit.ly

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 2:53:28pm

Okay, I’m gonna go paint some tissue paper with acrylics and put some clear acrylic medium on another piece, then I’m gonna try pouring some acrylic skins. Colors—fun!

Later, lizards.

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Belafon Oct 25, 2015 • 2:54:18pm

Cool thing from Daily Kos: Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Sharing Data/Funds with State Parties:

The Clinton campaign now has deals in place with the Democratic parties in Florida, Nevada, Ohio, South Carolina, and Texas, among other states and Puerto Rico, to create “victory funds.” Contributions to those funds will be divided between the respective state parties and Clinton’s primary campaign war chest.

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Jenner7 Oct 25, 2015 • 3:00:14pm

Hillary Clinton leads presidential field in Utah donations

SALT LAKE CITY — Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton has raked in more campaign donations from Utah residents than any other presidential candidate, but experts say that does not mean she has a chance to win the heavily conservative state next year.

While Clinton raised more money than any other 2016 hopeful, Republican contenders have collectively outraised Democrats in Utah about $434,000 to $296,000, campaign finance data show. Even if she secures the party’s nomination, Utah has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since Lyndon Johnson in 1964.

Her strong numbers show she is generating hope among Utah Democrats, said Utah State University political scientist Damon Cann. Party faithful tend to become demoralized because of constant losses in the state, but they appear galvanized behind the idea that Clinton has a shot elsewhere.

heraldextra.com

Hubby read this to me and I didn’t believe him. Very surprised.

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 3:03:09pm

re: #126 Jenner7

Hillary Clinton leads presidential field in Utah donations

heraldextra.com

Hubby read this to me and I didn’t believe him. Very surprised.

Hillary leads in fundraising in Utah because the Republican field is so divided.

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Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 3:04:35pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Hillary leads in fundraising in Utah because the Republican field is so divided.

Another example of how all the talk about the GOP had such a “strong” bench due to the size of it was absolute bunk.

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 3:10:37pm

Currently listening to==>
G. Torelli: Op. 8 / 12 Concerti grossi con una pastorale per il S.mo Natale / Collegium Musicum 90

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Oct 25, 2015 • 3:10:38pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

Another example of how all the talk about the GOP had such a “strong” bench due to the size of it was absolute bunk.

just covering up for the fact that the party is now so insular, divided and counteractive that it cannot get behind a single candidate.

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 3:11:18pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

Another example of how all the talk about the GOP had such a “strong” bench due to the size of it was absolute bunk.

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

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gwangung Oct 25, 2015 • 3:12:38pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

Which means it isn’t united, and strategically weak right now.

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Amory Blaine Oct 25, 2015 • 3:12:40pm

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 3:14:02pm

Evening, gentle Lizardim. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cold, cloudy October evening?

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Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 3:14:28pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

Come on, Dark, you can be honest. That bench is mostly composed of the political equivalent of deep-sea fish: Great in their natural environment, but collapse into jelly the moment they’re removed from it.

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Amory Blaine Oct 25, 2015 • 3:15:27pm

Prison phone companies fight for right to charge inmates $14 a minute

The Federal Communications Commission is about to face another lawsuit, this time over a vote to cap the prices prisoners pay for phone calls.

Yesterday’s vote came after complaints that inmate-calling companies are overcharging prisoners, their families, and attorneys. Saying the price of calls sometimes hits $14 per minute, the FCC has now capped rates at 11¢ per minute.

“None of us would consider ever paying $500 a month for a voice-only service where calls are dropped for seemingly no reason, where fees and commissions could be as high at 60 percent per call and, if we are not careful, where a four-minute call could cost us a whopping $54,” FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn said before yesterday’s vote.

Those are the kinds of prices that the two major inmate calling companies, Global Tel*Link (GTL) and Securus Technologies, want to keep charging. Both vowed to take the FCC to court over the decision.

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goddamnedfrank Oct 25, 2015 • 3:15:33pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

Stop kidding yourself, the Republican bench is rotten and falling apart. A solid majority of your primary votes are earmarked to the crazy shitweasel faction.

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gwangung Oct 25, 2015 • 3:16:06pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Come on, Dark, you can be honest. That bench is mostly composed of the political equivalent of deep-sea fish: Great in their natural environment, but collapse into jelly the moment they’re removed from it.

Because….aren’t they artificially being propped up by one or two super-rich donors? Therefore, they’re being shielded from the leveling forces of popular support?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Oct 25, 2015 • 3:17:10pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

Leading candidates who have never held elected office. Others who have held office, but have wrecked the respective economies of their states with their blindered ideologies and others who are just bat-shit crazy.

Deep indeed…

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The Ghost of the Beardsman Oct 25, 2015 • 3:19:26pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

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Targetpractice Oct 25, 2015 • 3:19:27pm

re: #138 gwangung

Because….aren’t they artificially being propped up by one or two super-rich donors? Therefore, they’re being shielded from the leveling forces of popular support?

Ayep. Scotty Walker’s a great example, as he fell apart around the time that he had to actually share a stage with a serious challenger. Speaks more to the weakness of the WI Dem party than it does his virtues as a politician.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Oct 25, 2015 • 3:29:25pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

Ayep. Scotty Walker’s a great example, as he fell apart around the time that he had to actually share a stage with a serious challenger. Speaks more to the weakness of the WI Dem party than it does his virtues as a politician.

I misunderestimated his potential, I thought he could come out ahead based on his record, but then again, I predicted that Rick Perry would walk away with the nomination in 2012…

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bratwurst Oct 25, 2015 • 3:31:37pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

Yes, all of the lunatics giving money to Trump, Cruz, and Carson are just waiting to start supporting “strong” bench players!

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 3:33:51pm

Who has a better bench: the GOP or the Brooklyn Nets?

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goddamnedfrank Oct 25, 2015 • 3:38:24pm

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Jayleia Oct 25, 2015 • 3:39:55pm

re: #144 KGxvi

Who has a better bench: the GOP or the Brooklyn Nets?

The 1875 Brooklyn Atlantics had a better team than the 2015 GOP…I had to look for that since I’m not a sportsball-type person

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The Mountain That Blogs Oct 25, 2015 • 3:41:20pm

re: #146 Jayleia

How about the 1899 Cleveland Spiders?

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b.d. Oct 25, 2015 • 3:42:02pm

re: #144 KGxvi

Who has a better bench: the GOP or the Brooklyn Nets?

The Cincinnati Reds had the best Bench between 1967-1983

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bratwurst Oct 25, 2015 • 3:43:51pm

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I misunderestimated his potential, I thought he could come out ahead based on his record, but then again, I predicted that Rick Perry would walk away with the nomination in 2012…

Perry and Walker are symptomatic of the GOP’s problem scouting talent. They see these guys who push ideological buttons to become giants in their home states and salivate over their ability to attract mega donors…barely a thought to how they might connect with voters far removed from their heroic gubernatorial deeds. The results have been nothing short of embarrassing for all involved.

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dholmes32 Oct 25, 2015 • 3:44:36pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Stop kidding yourself, the Republican bench is rotten and falling apart. A solid majority of your primary votes are earmarked to the crazy shitweasel faction.

Upvoted for “crazy shitweasel faction.”

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CuriousLurker Oct 25, 2015 • 3:44:54pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Oh hey, y’all: Before I disappear for the night, this is for next time gdf gets pissed:

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 3:45:02pm

.@MikeVersace1 My cat is sad because he wishes he had your perceptive gift of knowing when people are dumb & wrong. pic.twitter.com/kTSAnZqEVr

— WHY MY CAT IS SAD (@MYSADCAT) October 25, 2015

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Nyet Oct 25, 2015 • 3:45:06pm

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

That’ll show Putin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 3:48:10pm

MrBWS and I went to the county clerk’s office yesterday to do our absentee voting.
For the first time in either of our lives (and we are both Republicans), we both hit the button for a Democratic straight ticket vote.
All of the Republican candidates this time around are completely insane.
Every. Single. One.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 3:48:21pm

Ok just one question: who the fuck wrote this book pic.twitter.com/5CViLUYaE7

— Sage Boggs (@sageboggs) October 25, 2015

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PhillyPretzel Oct 25, 2015 • 3:50:20pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea Toujours

Excellent question. I have no idea who wrote it. The copyright information may have the answer.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 3:51:55pm

re: #156 PhillyPretzel

Excellent question. I have no idea who wrote it. The copyright information may have the answer.

The replies to the tweet are rather good.

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Shiplord Kirel Oct 25, 2015 • 3:52:09pm

Depraved fundy rabble-rousers are playing this for all it’s worth, since there is plainly some money in it.

U.S. Christians told: Prepare for persecution (Freeper re-post)

The money quote from the linked World Nut Daily article:

“American Christians need to prepare for persecution,” Carl Gallups told WND TV. The former law enforcement professional and pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church argued Christians are increasing being “targeted” for both political harassment and outright violence.

And he’s written a new book, “Be Thou Prepared: Equipping the Church for Persecution And Times of Trouble,” designed to prepare believers for the dark times ahead.

Gallups goes on to claim that violence against Christians is part of the plan. Freepers of course are eating it up. I won’t post the comments, you can see them for yourselves, but there is a lot of talk of violent resistance, civil war, and (of course) stockpiling still more guns and ammo.

These people are crazy, they are violent, and the fundy church charlatans and opportunists can provide the cohesion and organization that is otherwise missing from the bat guano right. Worse, their agitation and incitement is massively, impenetrably shielded from legal scrutiny by corrupt, pandering right-wing politicians.

I remember the strawman spewing Texas concern troll (now blessedly departed) who posted here claiming that there was no threat of insurrection because organized militias were too small and scattered to be a serious threat. That is true as far it goes, but a single fundy gun-church in Lubbock probably has more potential insurrectionists than all the militias in the state put together. There are thousands; yes, thousands; of these crank churches and many local officials are members and adherents.

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The Ghost of the Beardsman Oct 25, 2015 • 3:52:21pm

Who will pander hard enough to get both the “angry populist scared of brown people and angry they’re not rich” money and the “God works through this guy saying random crazy stuff that implies a giant theocratic state, but FREEDOM” money?

It’s not bench, it’s a twerking competition.

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dholmes32 Oct 25, 2015 • 3:54:13pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Well, it’s like this. Vince Flynn died, so Kyle Mills was basically hired to keep the series going. At least that’s what a one-minute Google tells me. From what Mills writes on Flynn’s website, he had to go by clues in the previous installment of the series to determine where to go next.

vinceflynn.com

More than you wanted to know, but I was curious too…

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 3:55:03pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea Toujours

Mitch Rapp is a character created by Vince Flynn. Flynn passed away a few years ago, so Kyle Mills wrote this one. I’m surprised the rights to those books have been licensed. I read them years ago and was under the impression that the story had been told

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PhillyPretzel Oct 25, 2015 • 3:55:29pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea Toujours

Here is the Wiki page on it. en.wikipedia.org

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dholmes32 Oct 25, 2015 • 3:55:34pm

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel

Carl Gallups is one of those guys who can’t get much of anything right. He was/is a longtime Birther and part of the Joe Arpaio sideshow. I keep hoping that he gets pulled into Arpaio’s current legal problems as a result, but I’m wicked that way.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 3:56:52pm

re: #160 dholmes32

Well, it’s like this. Vince Flynn died, so Kyle Mills was basically hired to keep the series going. At least that’s what a one-minute Google tells me. From what Mills writes on Flynn’s website, he had to go by clues in the previous installment of the series to determine where to go next.

vinceflynn.com

More than you wanted to know, but I was curious too…

I love LGF.

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Ace-o-aces Oct 25, 2015 • 3:58:20pm

re: #160 dholmes32

Well, it’s like this. Vince Flynn died, so Kyle Mills was basically hired to keep the series going. At least that’s what a one-minute Google tells me. From what Mills writes on Flynn’s website, he had to go by clues in the previous installment of the series to determine where to go next.

vinceflynn.com

More than you wanted to know, but I was curious too…

It’s just like how Tom Clancy will keep having books published under his name until well after his grandchildren have died.

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b.d. Oct 25, 2015 • 3:59:15pm

re: #160 dholmes32

Well, it’s like this. Vince Flynn died, so Kyle Mills was basically hired to keep the series going. At least that’s what a one-minute Google tells me. From what Mills writes on Flynn’s website, he had to go by clues in the previous installment of the series to determine where to go next.

vinceflynn.com

More than you wanted to know, but I was curious too…

Did someone go back in time and kill a baby Vince Flynn?

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plansbandc Oct 25, 2015 • 3:59:44pm

Just disgusting that one of our major party’s candidates for President are uniformly anti abortion in all or nearly all cases.

What happened to our country? FFS

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:00:36pm

Chris Christie accuses Black Lives Matter of advocating murder of police https://t.co/jFjJJTBZE0 pic.twitter.com/JNOeIIwNNx

— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) October 25, 2015

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 4:00:54pm

re: #161 KGxvi

Huh, just looked it up… Flynn wrote a lot more of those books than I thought. Guess you can’t let go of the power of a franchise.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:02:36pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Always the fallback. & they want the po-lice union support.

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b.d. Oct 25, 2015 • 4:02:41pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gee, wonder where Christie would have picked up that crazy idea?

Mark Fuhrman: “We don’t see any leaders from Black Lives Matter stand up & say ‘we don’t support the death of police officers.’” #KellyFile

— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) October 24, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:04:08pm

#BREAKING: UPDATE: 2 people shot inside Voorhees, NJ nursing home die from injuries: https://t.co/bWrUxU30lx

— NBC10 Philadelphia (@NBCPhiladelphia) October 25, 2015

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:08:05pm

Pop quiz! Who can tell me what this regular expression is doing?

/<img.+src=(?:"|\')(?!http:\/\/(?:www\.)?littlegreenfootballs\.com\/)(.+?)(?:"|\')[^>]*>/i

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:08:06pm

heh…

Huckabee Forced To Attend Fundraiser With Head Stuck In Molasses Crock https://t.co/6rWeFYQy4c pic.twitter.com/Y16gRdH9GZ

— The Onion (@TheOnion) October 25, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:08:36pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Pop quiz! Who can tell me what this regular expression is doing?

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speaking in tongues…

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:09:39pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Pop quiz! Who can tell me what this regular expression is doing?

[Embedded content]

It appears to be searching for links to LGF images.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:09:52pm

Searching for LGF mentions?

heh, I have no idea.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:10:13pm

2nd place!

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PhillyPretzel Oct 25, 2015 • 4:10:25pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

Confusing the sh*t out of everyone who sees it.// I have no idea.

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:10:30pm

re: #176 thedopefishlives

It appears to be searching for links to LGF images.

Close, but no seegar.

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b.d. Oct 25, 2015 • 4:10:48pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Pop quiz! Who can tell me what this regular expression is doing?

[Embedded content]

Killing baby Hitler?

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gwangung Oct 25, 2015 • 4:11:37pm

re: #171 b.d.

Gee, wonder where Christie would have picked up that crazy idea?

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It’s also a blatant lie. @deray for sure has said exactly that.

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:12:23pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

Close, but no seegar.

Oh. I’ve never seen the ?! syntax before. So it would be searching for non-LGF images, then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:13:33pm

pic.twitter.com/rdPiWD0vjM

— The Cult Cat (@Elverojaguar) October 25, 2015

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Ace-o-aces Oct 25, 2015 • 4:13:38pm

re: #182 gwangung

It’s also a blatant lie. @deray for sure has said exactly that.

IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT POLICE SHOOTIN EVERY DARK SKINED PERSON WHO LOOKS SIDEWAYS AT THEM, THAT’S THE SAME AS SAYING YOU WANT TO KILL ALL POLICE!!!!!

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 4:14:18pm

re: #156 PhillyPretzel

Excellent question. I have no idea who wrote it. The copyright information may have the answer.

I checked its dust jacket, and it was written by Kyle Mills. Vince Flynn had an outline of where he wanted to go with his Mitch Rapp character, but he wasn’t able to do much detailed work on the book before he died.

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:14:39pm

re: #183 thedopefishlives

Oh. I’ve never seen the ?! syntax before. So it would be searching for non-LGF images, then.

Got it in two!

The (?!…) syntax is a negative lookahead. So it’s looking for image tags with a src attribute that isn’t at LGF - in other words, images hosted at an external site.

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:15:01pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

Got it in two!

The (?!…) syntax is a negative lookahead. So it’s looking for image tags with a src attribute that isn’t at LGF - in other words, that links to an external site.

You made me learn something today, you bastard.

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b.d. Oct 25, 2015 • 4:16:20pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

You made me learn something today, you bastard.

On the sabbath? Blasphemer.

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 4:17:03pm

re: #166 b.d.

Did someone go back in time and kill a baby Vince Flynn?

He died from prostate cancer.

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PhillyPretzel Oct 25, 2015 • 4:17:05pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

It just proves you are still alive. You learn something new every day.

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sizzzzlerz Oct 25, 2015 • 4:19:19pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Pop quiz! Who can tell me what this regular expression is doing?

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Ah, regular expressions. The quintessential example of a write-only language.

A wise man offered the following parable: A colleague of his has a programming problem. He decides to use regular expressions to solve it. Now he has two problems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:19:40pm

Joe and Jill Biden are on 60 Minutes.
He says he will never run for public office again.
He pretty much called Maureen Dowd a liar for saying he decided against running for president because of Beau.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:19:45pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

You made me learn something today, you bastard.

Random: Neil Degrasse Tyson was on Wait Wait yesterday. Missed 2 out of the 3 questions. He said he’d rather miss, because he learned two new things….the questions though were typical Wait Wait. Instead of cosmology, they were on cosmetology.

The whole segment was hilarious. Worth a listen…

npr.org

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calochortus Oct 25, 2015 • 4:20:29pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea Toujours

Random: Neil Degrasse Tyson was on Wait Wait yesterday. Missed 2 out of the 3 questions. He said he’d rather miss, because he learned two new things….the questions though were typical Wait Wait. Instead of cosmology, they were on cosmetology.

The whole segment was hilarious. Worth a listen…

npr.org

I thought of the same thing.

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b_sharp Oct 25, 2015 • 4:20:38pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS and I went to the county clerk’s office yesterday to do our absentee voting.
For the first time in either of our lives (and we are both Republicans), we both hit the button for a Democratic straight ticket vote.
All of the Republican candidates this time around are completely insane.
Every. Single. One.

Welcome to the Dark Syde.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:21:03pm

re: #196 b_sharp

Welcome to the Dark Syde.

We like teh cookies…

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b_sharp Oct 25, 2015 • 4:21:24pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Pop quiz! Who can tell me what this regular expression is doing?

[Embedded content]

Taking up space in your comment.

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GlutenFreeJesus Oct 25, 2015 • 4:22:07pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

Close, but no seegar.

No. There is Seger.

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Feline Fearless Leader Oct 25, 2015 • 4:22:15pm

re: #161 KGxvi

Mitch Rapp is a character created by Vince Flynn. Flynn passed away a few years ago, so Kyle Mills wrote this one. I’m surprised the rights to those books have been licensed. I read them years ago and was under the impression that the story had been told

But the character of James Bond didn’t “die” with Ian Fleming either.

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ipsos Oct 25, 2015 • 4:22:26pm

re: #189 b.d.

On the sabbath? Blasphemer.

The sabbath was YESTERDAY. Blasphemer.

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:23:49pm

The coolest site for testing regular expressions I’ve ever found:

regex101.com

This tool is wondrous.

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:24:38pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

The coolest site for testing regular expressions I’ve ever found:

regex101.com

This tool is wondrous.

Wait, you test regular expressions? You don’t just chuck them into the code willy-nilly and pray that you got it right the first time?///

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:25:52pm

re: #203 thedopefishlives

Wait, you test regular expressions? You don’t just chuck them into the code willy-nilly and pray that you got it right the first time?///

I have discovered this isn’t the best practice.

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Teukka Oct 25, 2015 • 4:26:36pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

The coolest site for testing regular expressions I’ve ever found:

regex101.com

This tool is wondrous.

Another is to store a copy of this or your own homerolled tester on your machine:
http://www.cuneytyilmaz.com/prog/jrx/

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:28:23pm

.@VP says that his son Beau wanted him to run in 2016, but there wasn’t a “Hollywood moment” in which Beau brought it up on his death bed

— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) October 25, 2015

“I do want to influence the Democratic Party…I don’t want the party walking away from what Barack and I did” — @VP Joe Biden

— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) October 25, 2015

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Amory Blaine Oct 25, 2015 • 4:28:36pm

Went up to the family farm to replace an exterior staircase and snapped some quick shots.

We had soybeans planted this year, of which you can see some rows to the left.

Dead center in this photo you can see some shorter trees in the distance. Part of a stand we planted (3,000+) ~15 years ago.

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:28:36pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

I have discovered this isn’t the best practice.

My previous project team was very much a “I test my code in production” type of team. Needless to say, when the new management was brought in and discovered the unmaintainable mess that was our source code and the constant influx of show-stopping bugs that also repeated themselves, they were less than pleased.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:29:58pm

re: #207 Amory Blaine

Went up to the family farm to replace an exterior staircase and snapped some quick shots.

Embedded Image

We had soybeans planted this year, of which you can see some rows to the left.

Embedded Image

Dead center in this photo you can see some shorter trees in the distance. Part of a stand we planted (3,000+) ~15 years ago.

I see a perfect Christmas tree!

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:32:39pm

re: #208 thedopefishlives

And before you ask, no, there wasn’t anything I could do about it. The application was being built by a specialty UI shop, and my job was merely to construct the data architecture they required and stay out of their way. When we wound up getting called upon to fix UI bugs as the push to production began, we discovered the horror that was being built upon our otherwise unremarkable data layer.

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:32:48pm

re: #205 Teukka

The regex101 tester goes way beyond that one, though - it contains a full reference to regex syntax, and even performs a complete explanation of the regex. And it lets you test different flavors of regexes too - PHP, Javascript or Python. I’ve never seen a better regex tester.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:32:52pm

oh my god they’ve joined forces pic.twitter.com/QQTrH8oGPy

— Sapna Maheshwari (@sapna) October 25, 2015

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Teukka Oct 25, 2015 • 4:35:03pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

The regex101 tester goes way beyond that one, though - it contains a full reference to regex syntax, and even performs a complete explanation of the regex. And it lets you test different flavors of regexes too - PHP, Javascript or Python. I’ve never seen a better regex tester.

*nods*

It’s why it’s in my bookmark collection. But my homebrew one also comes in handy (I have it open in the sidebar of my browser — it’s specifically embeddable)

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Aunty Entity Dragon Oct 25, 2015 • 4:35:40pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

LOL once in a while a wingnut drops the mask and tells you what side they’re really on.

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I think the stupid bitch was trying to say she was actually the one who was going to be shot…but, being a wingnut and apparently not understanding that the the German officer was the center of the picture composition…screwed it up. Of course.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:36:49pm

Hero

Hey I just single handedly broke up a planned parenthood protest by chanting the words “yeast infections” pic.twitter.com/SKvnIi30TB

— Mary (@MaryNumair) October 25, 2015

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WhatEVs Oct 25, 2015 • 4:38:01pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Kyle Mills is a fantastic author in his own right. The characters are Flynns (RIP).

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:38:03pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea Toujours

Hero

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Hah! They probably thought it was some kind of magic spell that would give them yeast infections. The men too.

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 4:38:15pm

re: #200 Feline Fearless Leader

I don’t really have a problem with the series/character continuing (so long as the copyright holder is ok, or if it’s in public domain)… I’m just more surprised, is all. I read, I think four or five of the books in the mid aughts. They were ok, but were very much in the vein of Homeland and 24, and the spooky evil terrorist thing stopped being interesting. I do kind of wonder if we will see a tv series based on these books

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:38:25pm

Walkingdeadwalkingdeadwalkingdead

Can’t wait.

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:39:03pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

Hah! They probably thought it was some kind of magic spell that would give them yeast infections. The men too.

OOGA BOOGA!

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 4:39:48pm

re: #156 PhillyPretzel

Excellent question. I have no idea who wrote it. The copyright information may have the answer.

I’m guessing it was an unfinished manuscript by Vince Flynn and Kyle Mills completed it.

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Feline Fearless Leader Oct 25, 2015 • 4:39:52pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

Hah! They probably thought it was some kind of magic spell that would give them yeast infections. The men too.

Witchcraft!

To make their beer go sour as well I am sure.

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KGxvi Oct 25, 2015 • 4:40:01pm

re: #219 Stanley Sea Toujours

I still need to watch last week’s episode. I’ve been running behind on my shows this week

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 4:41:19pm

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY==>
OK but she would still have been on trial for his murder.
Also note: finger on trigger. What movie is this from?

As the ladies of the Middle East if they would like a rape whistle. #TCOT pic.twitter.com/s3qKIR0Fw9

— ______ (@LawlessPirate) October 25, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:41:27pm

re: #223 KGxvi

I still need to watch last week’s episode. I’ve been running behind on my shows this week

The earlier episodes are being repeated tonight.

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:42:51pm

@MelissaStetten r u going to pee on them too just like r kelly??? :)

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) November 18, 2011

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Charles Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 4:43:58pm

Every bit as classy as dear old dad. https://t.co/JvXQ5m5DRG

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 25, 2015

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:45:51pm

re: #223 KGxvi

It was one of the best ever. Talking Dead must watch after - Kevin Smith was on that one.

Catch up! (definitely turn off twitter)

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:47:14pm

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

One of my karate instructors beat down a would-be rapist who was about to accost her in the street. The police gave her an attaboy. If she’d shot him, I doubt they would’ve been so thankful.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:48:14pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

The earlier episodes are being repeated tonight.

Dilemma for me. I watch live online at 6pm, because I don’t want to wait till 9. I’d love to re-watch up to the newest episode to refresh everything, but I’ll suffer.

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TedStriker Oct 25, 2015 • 4:48:18pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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The Donald Junior…just like dear ol’ Dad, only a bit more “with it”.

However, his tweet reminded me of this from Dave Chappelle (definitely NSFW):

R Kelly - I Wanna Pee On You (Dave Chappelle Show)

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Mattand Oct 25, 2015 • 4:48:33pm

So, at any point in the Ben Carson interview, did Chuck Todd point out how fucking out there Carson’s positions are? Or did he do the typical “We have to respect all viewpoints” idiocy?

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 4:48:53pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

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WOAH

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Aunty Entity Dragon Oct 25, 2015 • 4:49:58pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean the bench isn’t strong, but many candidates means divided funds.

Youbetcha *wink wink*

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Mattand Oct 25, 2015 • 4:51:04pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

Remember when everyone was horrified at Billy Carter’s behavior when Jimmy became president?

Leave to a Trump to go “Nah, I can do better than that.”

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 4:51:25pm

re: #229 thedopefishlives

One of my karate instructors beat down a would-be rapist who was about to accost her in the street. The police gave her an attaboy. If she’d shot him, I doubt they would’ve been so thankful.

The fact is that only a small % of all rapes are “stranger jumping out of a dark alley”

Most rapes are committed by someone the victim knows and/or trusts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 4:53:48pm

re: #230 Stanley Sea Toujours

Dilemma for me. I watch live online at 6pm, because I don’t want to wait till 9. I’d love to re-watch up to the newest episode to refresh everything, but I’ll suffer.

I’ve got a DVD loaded and ready to hit record to get last week’s episode for MrBWS (forgot to do that last week and he was totally bummed when I told him what happened).

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thedopefishlives Oct 25, 2015 • 4:53:55pm

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

Rapes, assaults, murders - they all follow a similar pattern. The “stranger jumping out of an alley” cases get all the media attention, though.

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Aunty Entity Dragon Oct 25, 2015 • 4:55:00pm

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

It’s just like how Tom Clancy will keep having books published under his name until well after his grandchildren have died.

Clancy had 2 or 3 really good books…and then he slid into right wing howler monkey fantasy land.

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Feline Fearless Leader Oct 25, 2015 • 4:58:16pm

re: #239 Aunty Entity Dragon

Clancy had 2 or 3 really good books…and then he slid into right wing howler monkey fantasy land.

And he started on the border. If you (re)read his older books with the RWNJ agenda in mind you can see all the signs.

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Skip Intro Oct 25, 2015 • 4:58:37pm

British soldiers spotted in Washington say they are there to ‘save the US from Donald Trump’

This week, Independent Journal reporter Benny Johnson was on the streets of Washington, DC, where he bumped into a group of British soldiers (around 750 of whom are based in the US).

Startled by seeing foreign troops on Capitol Hill, Johnson inquired what they were doing there.

One soldier replied:

We saw Donald Trump was about to become President so we thought it was a good time to invade and help you out

i100.independent.co.uk

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Oct 25, 2015 • 4:58:46pm

re: #239 Aunty Entity Dragon

The thing about Clancy that I liked the most was the way he described how many things were supposed to work. A quick example was the Soviet Backfire
Bomber. I just assumed it was a B-52 type bomber but he described how it would be used to go after shipping

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Backwoods_Sleuth Oct 25, 2015 • 5:01:21pm

Last week’s episode of Walking Dead now playing.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 5:06:40pm

re: #241 Skip Intro

British soldiers spotted in Washington say they are there to ‘save the US from Donald Trump’

Embedded Image

i100.independent.co.uk

He’s elected President? I’ll go back to being a colony. God Save the Queen!

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 5:07:58pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Last week’s episode of Walking Dead now playing.

Not in So Cal.
All of you East Coasters, re-watch one of the best episodes.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Oct 25, 2015 • 5:11:01pm

BBL. I need TOMATOES. Cannot believe I’m out. Necesario para mi comida.

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The Vicious Babushka Oct 25, 2015 • 5:12:29pm

Right now downloading YOOGE Hayden Symphony collection for 99¢

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Sophist C. Johnson Oct 25, 2015 • 5:15:54pm

Ben Carson: a chicken in every pot, and a commissar on every campus.

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BeachDem Oct 25, 2015 • 5:17:46pm

re: #136 Amory Blaine

Just in case anyone didn’t know, Mignon Clyburn is Jim Clyburn’s daughter.

Three days into current project. Going well, but the 4 am days start tomorrow—only 2 (or maybe three), then 2 (maybe three) late nights. Then a few days for makeup shifts, then I’m done.

Trying to keep up with reading all the thredz—thanks for keeping me up to date on the GOP insanity. They had Fox on this morning where I was working and I swear, after one commercial break, Tucker Carlson and the blonde of the hour were holding hands. Quickly dropped when camera came on, and for the next few segments, had their hands folded in their respective laps. Heh.

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Dark_Falcon Oct 25, 2015 • 5:30:37pm

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

The fact is that only a small % of all rapes are “stranger jumping out of a dark alley”

Most rapes are committed by someone the victim knows and/or trusts.

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Is that Eliza Dushku in that pic?

As for its words, that’s why firearms instructors always warn their students to contact the police if they even have to fire their gun at a person. Because if a woman shot a would-be rapist and he doesn’t die and he talks to the cops first, unless he’s an obvious dirtbag he may well be able to spin out a story that sends the cops after her. So it is important to get your side of the story in first, even if its just a bare-bones account.

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steve_davis Oct 25, 2015 • 6:04:24pm

re: #15 Timothy Watson

Remember folks, Iran shouldn’t have a nuclear bomb, but each and every American citizen should.

Maybe I can get one of these:

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So, according to Carson, the Founding Fathers would have been cool with someone building a 3-deck man-of-war for their personal protection? This would have been in an age when a man-of-war could effectively blockade all shipping in a harbor, and basically nuke a city with 48-pounders.

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Swift2991 Oct 26, 2015 • 5:28:49pm

It can’t be good that enough Americans are as crazy as Trump/and/or/Carson.

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