Saturday Jam: Randy Newman Talks About the Inspiration for “Losing You”

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Here’s a great example of Randy Newman’s amazing songwriting, a wrenching story of heartbreak and loss told in simple words with a simple melody. This is what Newman does better than almost anyone, and in this video he explains what inspired him to write this song.

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:46:19pm

I’ve got the great Harps and Angels album. That song makes me want to cry from the first chords. Sometimes (really often actually), Newman just nails it.

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Kragar  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:54:26pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:59:46pm

re: #2 Kragar

Now he can be a soldier of the rent-a-cops.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:01:16pm

Well it’s not the Dubai Tower but the overlords are quite pleased.

Cinnamon in the Observation Station, Pepper in Sky Cave
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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:06:58pm

re: #2 Kragar

No worries. His martyr badge entitles him to run for office. Soon, he’ll be writing policy or screaming into an am microphone.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:08:49pm

re: #4 Great White Snark

I think I’ve seen that cat in Men in Black.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:11:12pm

re: #4 Great White Snark

You’re a good dad. ;)

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:15:20pm

re: #7 Amory Blaine

Thanks, least we could do since the Banning Of The Cats from poolside. Dragon_Lady ordered and assembled it. Any feline hesitation was swept away with a couple special treats on each level.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:17:40pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:20:00pm
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William Lewis  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:21:27pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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Don’t they know that LL Bean is the appropriate Red Diaper mail order store????

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:24:57pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:25:54pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

Hashtag heyTwitterisCapitalism

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:26:11pm

re: #12 Amory Blaine

(Lack of) Commas save hipsters.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:26:25pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

Had to delete and resend due to stupid typo.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:28:19pm

I’m not very happy right now about the hundred bucks I spent on the @ZappaMovie Kickstarter.

EDIT: I should add this tweet for clarification:

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:28:48pm

Instagram

A Cuban sato street dog keeps watch from a crumbling building in Havana.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:31:49pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

jambase.com

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:32:05pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

Somebody apparently stepped on somebody else’s toes. Probably comes down to money, as always.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:33:18pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Somebody apparently stepped on somebody else’s toes. Probably comes down to money, as always.

*sigh*

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:37:05pm

Another Bernie Sanders supporter I used to follow, now going werewolf on me.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:38:47pm

Chances that ‘Don Sanfonte’ is a conservative troll could possibly exceed 100%.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:39:25pm

The level of trolling that hashtag is getting is reaching Epic.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:40:21pm

re: #6 jaunte

Embedded Image

I think I’ve seen that cat in Men in Black.

I was there! (Not in the movie, though.)

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:41:56pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Another Bernie Sanders supporter I used to follow, now going werewolf on me.

[Embedded content]

Same as it ever was: “PURITY NOW!!1” people will always turn on more grounded folks when we reach the point where we can no longer indulge their reality denial.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:43:33pm
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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:45:09pm

re: #4 Great White Snark

Well it’s not the Dubai Tower but the overlords are quite pleased.

[Embedded content]

The Burj Kittifa?

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:46:18pm

One more Hitchens excerpt from this great article about Hitler and I’m done.

But then what is one to say of his overseas “enablers”? Two decades after his Munich “incubation,” Hitler must have giggled with incredulity in the fall of 1938 when the prime minister of Great Britain landed at the Munich airport and asked him if there was anything else, after Austria and the Rhineland, that he especially wanted. Hardly daring to hope, as we now know, Hitler replied in effect that Czechoslovakia would be nice. My own contribution to the anniversaries of 1919 and 1939, if I may mention it, is a foreword to a splendid book called In Our Time: The Chamberlain-Hitler Collusion, by Professors Clement Leibovitz and Alvin Finkel. This volume establishes conclusively that British prime minister Neville Chamberlain was no duped “appeaser,” with a silly mustache of his own. He had made a cold calculation that Hitler should be re-armed, and be allowed—if not, indeed, encouraged—to expand his Reich. This was partly to keep his marauding hands off the British Empire, and partly to encourage his “tough-minded” solution to the Bolshevik problem in the East. Chamberlain and his foreign secretary, Lord Halifax, refused even to meet with senior German officers who belatedly implored their help, at the last available moment, in overthrowing the madman. The German people, said these brave men, had been partly duped by Hitler because he had apparently restored full employment and over­turned the unpopular and humiliating Treaty of Versailles, without resorting to war. A credible threat of resistance by Britain would destroy this illusion, and there were several generals ready to move against their former protégé. Go away, said His Majesty’s Government. (This story is also told in The Unnecessary War: Whitehall and the German Resistance to Hitler, by Patricia Meehan.) Hard to read about this, even now. Hard to remember, too, that in civilized France the reactionaries of 1936, appalled at the election of a Dreyfusard socialist Jew as premier, yelled “Better Hitler than Blum.” M. Léon Blum was deported to Buchenwald.

Of the countless blood-freezing facts about Adolf Hitler that several historians have established independently, there is one that keeps me awake more than any other. Not only did he “time” everything in anticipation of his own early death (he had always had morbid fantasies of illness and suicide), but, at different moments, he actually told close associates that this was his explicit motive. We must invade Russia now because I have not much time left to me … The transports to the East must begin because I am becoming frail and must see the task completed … Even some of his most toughened and cretinous underlings went pale when they heard this and suddenly realized its staggering import. This howling nihilist didn’t just need to destroy the Jews. He didn’t care if nobody outlived him. In other words, there was no time at which a stiff political or diplomatic resistance, or an as­sas­sination backed by the High Command, or even the toe of an Austrian construction worker’s cleated boot, might not have made all the difference. Any of these could have fucked him, and the apocalyptic ­horses he rode in on. He was a homicidal maniac in a hurry, and terribly afraid that he might not make it. Yet respectable circles in Germany, and in Britain and France (and, as we have recently learned from the files of Ford and General Motors, in these United States), decided that he was, on balance, a case of “the lesser evil.” Indeed, that was the only use of the word “evil” that they ever permitted themselves.
vanityfair.com

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:46:48pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:48:43pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:49:32pm

Apparently, Sisi’s Egypt is whoring itself out the Saudi state.

I refuse to call them Saudi Arabia, as I find that demeaning to the Arabs in the World.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:50:23pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

Alex Winter responded to my tweet.

So, the entire Zappa family support and endorse this project?

This is an important distinction: all of our permission - to use the Vault, and to make this movie - was granted by the Zappa Family Trust, not the individual Zappas. Before she passed, Gail and I spent a lot of time discussing the film I wanted to make, and the importance of helping preserve the Vault, and she was the one who gave me permission. Based on that decision, the Zappa Family Trust continues to allow me access, and this will be the first time the content of the Vault has ever been available to a filmmaker.

To be clear, I’m not claiming that the individual Zappas have endorsed this project in any way. That’s a decision for each of them to make, and I don’t want to speak for any of them. I’ve let each of them know about the project, and this Kickstarter. I’m hoping they’ll all decide to let me interview them for the movie, and share their memories of Frank. If they want to be involved, I’ll be thrilled and honored to have them.

But it’s important to understand that there’s a difference between an endorsement and permission. This is always a difficult line to walk, as an independent doc director, because I often find myself telling stories without the specific blessing of the people involved. There’s no way around it. I wouldn’t want to put the Zappas in a difficult position, so I’m not even asking them to endorse it.

(If they want to, that’s awesome… but it’s totally up to them.)

Above all, my goal is to make an unbiased, independent documentary that paints a more comprehensive and nuanced picture of Frank’s life. That said, I hope that each of the Zappas will decide to support what I’m doing, and feel good about the finished movie!

As usual, Charles hits the nail right on the head.

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Somebody apparently stepped on somebody else’s toes. Probably comes down to money, as always.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:50:47pm

Man Who Filmed Himself Starting Massive Wildfire Gets 20 Years

Meanwhile, Huntsman’s sister is accused of killing two young children, whose bodies were found in a storage locker in Redding, California, according to SFist.

They seem nice….

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:51:28pm

One more embed and I’ll be done with them for a bit:

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:54:37pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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William of Orange  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:57:51pm

New Sanders ad.

Youtube Video

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:59:38pm

re: #36 William of Orange

I’m stumped that so many immigrants are so pro-Bernie, considering his actual track record in the House and Senate is poor.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:04:08pm
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William Lewis  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:08:05pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

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Nah, money is the reward for those hours. Capitalism is only the way you get sort of compensated for your labor and the more regulated it is in a social democracy, the more appropriate the amount of that compensation is, my bourgeoisie friend.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:11:13pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:12:22pm

Funny fact: @MoonZappa follows li’l ol’ me on Twitter. I’m beginning to wonder/worry…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:13:23pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:14:37pm

re: #39 William Lewis

Nah, money is the reward for those hours. Capitalism is only the way you get sort of compensated for your labor and the more regulated it is in a social democracy, the more appropriate the amount of that compensation is, my bourgeoisie friend.

‘More regulated’ ≠ ‘more appropriate’ . This is true because ‘more’ ≠ ‘wisely’ nor does it equal ‘smartly’ nor ‘appropriately’. I work in a pretty heavily regulated industry right now (Insurance), but those regulations governing commission are effective and functional because they are well designed, not because there are a lot of them.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:20:08pm

Really trying hard to resist the urge to troll the #ResistCapitalism hashtag.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:21:08pm

FFS even Occupy knew better than to pretend capitalism needs to somehow end rather than be repaired and corporate power reduced. I do want B ofA split up. I don’t want that branch and the people inside to go away.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:22:19pm

Capitalism is calling from inside the house.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:24:46pm

Here’s a USAF vid that is unashamed War Porn, as a Daesh-controlled BMP (or variant) that had been converted into one of the so-called ‘Islamic State’s signature (S)VBIEDs get stopped short of the SDF lines at Shadaddi by a A-10’s GAU-8 Avenger. The 30mm Tungsten-Carbide APDS shells open up the BMP like it was a tin can! Enjoy:

April 3: Coalition Strike destroys VBIED near Shadaddi, Syria

For best effect, let this song play a minute or two before you start the airstrike video:

AC/DC - Thunderstruck (High Quality)

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:28:39pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:29:55pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Better version
2CELLOS - Thunderstruck [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:30:06pm

re: #45 Great White Snark

FFS even Occupy knew better than to pretend capitalism needs to somehow end rather than be repaired and corporate power reduced. I do want B ofA split up. I don’t want that branch and the people inside to go away.

Yes, but these are ‘UnReconstructed’ Socialists who are high on “Feel The Bern!!”. They have as little contact with reality as most Trumpkins. They are substantially less violent, to be sure, and there are fewer of them, but they share a rage against “The System” that is immune to reason or logic.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:32:46pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

[smiles]

I hope I didn’t offend. It’s just good sometimes to watch the America’s military unapologetically kicking totalitarian ass.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:33:40pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:33:48pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Supporter of candidate pushing flat tax says what?

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:35:31pm

When all is said and done, this has to be regarded as one of the coolest things they found in the Zappa Vault.

In 1980 Zappa gets off a plane in San Francisco and the Navy Marching Band greets him in the terminal with a great rendition of “Joe’s Garage.” The song was only a year old or so at the time.

A rarity from Frank Zappa’s Vault | whoisfrankzappa.com

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:37:03pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:37:06pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

‘More regulated’ ≠ ‘more appropriate’ . This is true because ‘more’ ≠ ‘wisely’ nor does it equal ‘smartly’ nor ‘appropriately’. I work in a pretty heavily regulated industry right now (Insurance), but those regulations governing commission are effective and functional because they are well designed, not because there are a lot of them.

So it’s more about quality than quantity. Remind me again, which party’s plan to deal with regulation is to just get rid of entire departments?

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:38:32pm

Hi Kids, whats shakin? Long time no see!

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:40:18pm

re: #56 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

It doesn’t mean you abandon regulation, but some functions don’t need a cabinet level agency and might be better off with a bipartisan commission. There are other cases like education where the vast majority of the money is not federal and having a federal department does arguably more harm than good.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:40:41pm

re: #57 Donna Ballard

Hi Kids, whats shakin? Long time no see!

Hey, DL.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:41:01pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Why would you think I would be offended? The Two Cellos version IS objectively better. Does THAT offend you?

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:42:26pm

Dragon Lady is in the house… Hey DF how is goin?

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:42:31pm

Got the insomnia tonight, taking it out on some Bernie bros on the Guardian.

Bernie Bro:

if the democrats want liberals to vote for them, they need to run actual democrats and not dinos like clinton.

Me:

Hillary has been fighting the liberal case for decades, as an actual member of the actual democratic party. Sanders is the ultimate ‘dino’, - ‘democrat in name only’ if you want to start using that term - although I’d advise against it because it’s yet another instance of Bernie bros appropriating the recent, failed tactics of the conservative right, with their insane teabagger purity tests and talk of ‘rinos’.

Yeah seriously dude, a bit rich to be trying to lecture people about ‘dinos’ while supporting some guy who only became a Democrat at the last minute to run as one in the election.

Btw most liberals I know arent too fond of the NRA, certainly nowhere near as much as Bernie appears to be, so again not sure how Bernie would survive any liberal purity test you might want to concoct.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:42:46pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

Covers? Got a whole playlist of good covers

open.spotify.com

Video

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:43:17pm

re: #37 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve also got this for you, PLL. you may want to follow that site, as it is a good view of what is going on in Libya, at least in terms of aircraft.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:44:45pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

Why would you think I would be offended? The Two Cellos version IS objectively better. Does THAT offend you?

No, not at all. Some people get bother sometimes by airstrike footage and I wanted to be sure I wasn’t shoving at you.

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:45:15pm

Hey Aye Pod, hows married life treatin ya?

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:45:16pm

re: #61 Donna Ballard

Dragon Lady is in the house… Hey DF how is goin?

It goes decently. This past week was hard for me, but I did well selling.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:45:32pm
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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:45:51pm

Hey anyone know if I can post Flickr images here?

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:46:53pm

re: #57 Donna Ballard

Hi Kids, whats shakin? Long time no see!

Dragon_Lady!!! Oh man, it’s been a minute. Shit, you may not even know me!

Send Rightwingconspirator my regards!

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:47:33pm

re: #62 Aye Pod

Got the insomnia tonight, taking it out on some Bernie bros on the Guardian.

Bernie Bro:

Me:

Good stuff, save only that Sanders isn’t an NRA fan. But he has a hard time articulating his views on guns because his is not a purist position.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:47:50pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Dragon_Lady!!! Oh man, it’s been a minute. Shit, you may not even know me!

Send Rightwingconspirator my regards!

AKA Great White these days…

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:48:36pm

re: #69 Aye Pod

Hey anyone know if I can post Flickr images here?

If you first save them to your image library, yes.

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:48:43pm

re: #66 Donna Ballard

Hey Aye Pod, hows married life treatin ya?

Pretty well :) We’re busy but happy, glad to say. I heard you have got this new thing going on - congrats on that and how is that going?

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:48:59pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

I here ya, I just landed a full time job on Monday after being part time for so long, its kind weird not having the time to get my stuff I’m used to doing done anymore…

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:50:13pm

re: #72 Great White Snark

AKA Great White these days…

I like to use proper usernames around here, you hear that talon_262?!?

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:51:35pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

It doesn’t mean you abandon regulation, but some functions don’t need a cabinet level agency and might be better off with a bipartisan commission. There are other cases like education where the vast majority of the money is not federal and having a federal department does arguably more harm than good.

Look, I’m fairly libertarian in my leanings, but I have to call bullshit on the bipartisan commission bit. The executive branch is obligated to enforce the law, it’s organized into cabinet departments so that it can enforce the law. How the fuck is a commission going to do that? And let’s be realistic, 95% of executive branch employees serve regardless of which party controls the White House.

Beyond that, state governments have a long history of being less than good for civil liberties, including education

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:51:50pm

re: #74 Aye Pod

Weird, I haven’t worked full time in so long I’m afraid Great Whites gonna start bitchin about the house falling apart! I also just got accepted by The American Orchid Society as a student judge so I have 5 years of hard study ahead of me…

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:52:27pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

This is a bad year for my sardonic original nic.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:53:11pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

‘More regulated’ ≠ ‘more appropriate’ . This is true because ‘more’ ≠ ‘wisely’ nor does it equal ‘smartly’ nor ‘appropriately’. I work in a pretty heavily regulated industry right now (Insurance), but those regulations governing commission are effective and functional because they are well designed, not because there are a lot of them.

I will give you a simple rules for capitalism that we in the US don’t implement but should: the minimum standards a person should be enough to live on, health care that doesn’t cause bankruptsy, and the time off necessary to take care of themselves and their family. The problem with pure capitalism is that it treats people the same way it treats a widget, meaning that there is constant downward pressure to reduce the cost of a person.

One simple way to do this is to strengthen unions. One side benefit of stronger unions would be less need for government intervention.

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:53:14pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Good stuff, save only that Sanders isn’t an NRA fan. But he has a hard time articulating his views on guns because his is not a purist position.

Yeah, to be honest I was throwing his own hyperbole back at him, taste of his own medicine, kinda thing.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:54:43pm

re: #80 Great White Snark

My god. Indeed it is. Anytime I get into any serious discussion about national politics these days I have to tell anybody that’s listening that we are truly witnessing Twilight Zone levels of weirdness and scariness.

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:56:19pm

I hope y’all will forgive me my typos, I haven’t been doing any typing in the past year except for on Facebook or twitter so my fingers have forgotten where the keys are! I post from my cell phone on both and its way different!

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:57:08pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

When all is said and done, this has to be regarded as one of the coolest things they found in the Zappa Vault.

In 1980 Zappa gets off a plane in San Francisco and the Navy Marching Band greets him in the terminal with a great rendition of “Joe’s Garage.” The song was only a year old or so at the time.

[Embedded content]

FRANK ZAPPA - Whippin’ Post

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:58:18pm

re: #57 Donna Ballard

Hi Kids, whats shakin? Long time no see!

The threat level is: Understated Paisley.

Strategic stockpiles of pitchforks and old-timey torches are running low.

Cute wombat pictures are the currency of the board because of dingflation.

I’m sure I’m missing a bunch of details, but tonight’s crazy pills are especially good.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:58:26pm

re: #79 Donna Ballard

Help is on the way!

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:00:17pm

re: #87 Great White Snark

Uh huh… Well see about that…

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:00:20pm

re: #79 Donna Ballard

That’s great news, sounds very interesting too. I like taking pictures of orchids, they’re great photography subjects.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:00:35pm

re: #81 Belafon

I will give you a simple rules for capitalism that we in the US don’t implement but should: the minimum standards a person should be enough to live on, health care that doesn’t cause bankruptsy, and the time off necessary to take care of themselves and their family. The problem with pure capitalism is that it treats people the same way it treats a widget, meaning that there is constant downward pressure to reduce the cost of a person.

One simple way to do this is to strengthen unions. One side benefit of stronger unions would be less need for government intervention.

The important thing to remember about regulation is that, contrary to what Conservatives think, it is not a burden imposed by Government upon Business, but rather a burden impose upon Society by Business. The nature of Capitalism is such that if there is a way to cheat, someone will find it and exploit it. Then you have to regulate it. Then someone will find a way around it, and you have to regulate THAT.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:03:39pm

Also, Bat Boy and a jar of racist marmalade are fighting to the death over who gets to be One-or-Less-Eyed King of the Rubes.

eta: not their deaths, of course, just the death of epistemology, object permanence, and anybody fast on the cyanide tooth trigger.

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:03:47pm

re: #89 Aye Pod

Well, tell your Lady I said hello please… I have lots of pics to post. If I typed in one of the official descriptions use in awarding plants you guys would think ‘m speaking a foreign language! Its going to be a long twisted road I’m traveling, let me tell you!

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:05:01pm

re: #91 The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil

Also, Bat Boy and a jar of racist marmalade are fighting to the death over who gets to be One-or-Less-Eyed King of the Rubes.

Needs translation or links or.. something.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:05:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:05:26pm

re: #69 Aye Pod

Hey anyone know if I can post Flickr images here?

Yes, just copy the embed code from a Flickr image, then click the “Embedded Content” icon at upper right of the LGF comment posting area, and paste in the embed code.

You can find the Flickr embed code by clicking the arrow icon beneath an image:

For example:

Flickr

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:06:31pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Yes, just copy the embed code from a Flickr image, then click the “Embedded Content” icon at upper right of the LGF comment posting area, and paste in the embed code.

You can find the Flickr embed code by clicking the arrow icon beneath an image:

[Embedded content]

For example:

[Embedded content]

Better than what I had posted. Thank you, Charles.

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:07:07pm

re: #93 Great White Snark

More like a few less drinks! “That makes no sense to us!” to quote one of my fav TNG episodes…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:08:45pm

re: #93 Great White Snark

Needs translation or links or.. something.

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:09:50pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:11:46pm

re: #98 The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump

Beh. I could call Hillary Clinton the “Wicked Witch of the East” and Bernie Sanders the “Too-White Knight of Socialism” just as easily. But I don’t, because that sort of name calling is counter productive.

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Kragar  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:12:05pm
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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:12:41pm

re: #89 Aye Pod

That’s great news, sounds very interesting too. I like taking pictures of orchids, they’re great photography subjects.

Those things are hard to shoot really well. Depth of field, shadows, creamy b/g… Gonna cost me a ring flash one of these days. The sun got me this one. Huntington Library 2014

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:13:12pm

re: #98 The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump

I prefer The Cretin and The Fiend.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:13:44pm

re: #85 BeenHereAwhile

[Embedded content]

The Mud Shark (Live At Fillmore East / 1971)

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:14:14pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

There are no pictures of Colorado. Grr!

/

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:16:58pm

I took this pic of the alien gargoyle on the local abbey the other day -

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:17:40pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Yes, just copy the embed code from a Flickr image, then click the “Embedded Content” icon at upper right of the LGF comment posting area, and paste in the embed code.

You can find the Flickr embed code by clicking the arrow icon beneath an image:

[Embedded content]

For example:

[Embedded content]

Thanks - will do that next time.

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Donna Ballard  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:18:54pm

Well Kids I’m tired and gonna go sleepy bye. Nighty nite y’all”

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:20:45pm

One more picture - I went to the park and found this duck that I think looks like Marco Rubio:

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danarchy  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:20:50pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

Better version
[Embedded content]

Video

The 2 Cellos version is a fine homage, and great in it’s own way, but I will take the original any day.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:22:29pm

re: #106 Aye Pod

Oh man I want to get over there for shots like that. Medium format B&W. Or rent a tilt shift lens. If I want to shoot anything that old here, it’s geology, not architecture.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:22:57pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:23:28pm

re: #106 Aye Pod

I took this pic of the alien gargoyle on the local abbey the other day -

[Embedded content]

Well, if the Predators wanted to hunt those things Scotland in days of old would have seemed a good place for it. Remote enough not to be very obvious, plenty of challenging terrain, and a reasonable certainty that any Aliens that got away would simply be killed by the local humans. It worked until the Scots got more numerous and were able to make swords in greater numbers. At that point, the ‘game’ got too dangerous to be hunted and the Predators left Scotland.

Scotsmen: Even more badass than alien monsters.

//////////////////////////////////////////////

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:23:42pm

re: #109 Aye Pod

One more picture - I went to the park and found this duck that I think looks like Marco Rubio:

Embedded Image

No way! The duck is much better-looking……

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:23:42pm

Apologies for the quality of those pics btw, I had to resize/jpeg the shit out of them to get them small enough to upload. i’ll try using the Flickr code next time.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:24:38pm

That’s pretty cool - the latest Flickr embedding code actually has a slideshow of images, and you can expand it to a full screen image. Nice.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:25:02pm

re: #109 Aye Pod

One more picture - I went to the park and found this duck that I think looks like Marco Rubio:

[Embedded content]

Nice matched with the Trump Duck:

Trump Duck

Now we need a Hillary Duck Hen to begin the Duck Candidates for the Dems.

/Heh.

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:28:23pm

re: #111 Great White Snark

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:29:29pm
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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:32:05pm

Ok, not getting the embed code to work. I posted this into the embedded content box -

External Image

but post came up empty.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:36:28pm

re: #120 Aye Pod

Ok, not getting the embed code to work. I posted this into the embedded content box -

External Image

but post came up empty.

You need to click the section that says “Grab the HTML/BBCode” and copy the Embed code from there. The best size is “Medium 640.”

Looks like this:

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:36:35pm

re: #120 Aye Pod

I have a friend, Steven Benskin, who spent months there with his box camera.
Check this out.

Stephen Benskin Photography

facebook.com

I look at his work and I feel like a clumsy amateur.

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Aye Pod  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:45:40pm

Don’t know what’s up with not being able to post from Flickr, tried all the options. Bed time here now I think - catch yous later.

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Teukka  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:46:12pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

Better version
[Embedded content]

Nah. THIS
Thunderstruck by Steve’n’Seagulls (LIVE)

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:48:24pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:52:49pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Beh. I could call Hillary Clinton the “Wicked Witch of the East” and Bernie Sanders the “Too-White Knight of Socialism” just as easily. But I don’t, because that sort of name calling is counter productive.

See, I would go with “gold Maoist jacket stuffed full of owls and secrets” and “the Lorax of Wall Street.” Because I have an actual sense of humor, not that dead-eyed-shark-predation-humor-thing where stuff is funny because it I can imagine biting a hole in it and then it dies which affirms how much better I am.

Read any good Kevin Williamson articles about how the GOP base magically morphed into white trash junkies because they were bitten by a radioactive New Yorker real estate investor? My banjo full of Oxycontin and I fucking love those.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:06:03pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

But will they cover the Axl Rose version?

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:10:42pm

re: #127 GlutenFreeJesus

But will they cover the Axl Rose version?

Don’t make me do it.

Fuck it, I’m doing it.

Sweet Child of Mine - Umphreys McGee

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Jenner7  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:15:16pm

I finally got around to watching The Force Awakens and I was pleasantly surprised. I really enjoyed it. I’m kind of glad I already knew a certain spoiler before hand.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:22:11pm

re: #129 Jenner7

I finally got around to watching The Force Awakens and I was pleasantly surprised. I really enjoyed it. I’m kind of glad I already knew a certain spoiler before hand.

It was his sled.

Oops! Wrong movie.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:32:18pm

There are 41,314 registered Democrats in Wyoming, according to Wyoming’s Secretary of State’s website.

FEEL THE BERN

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:39:23pm

re: #124 Teukka

That’s good too.

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Alyosha  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:42:34pm

Nice thought. Utterly delusional.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:45:28pm

@Popehat retweeted me. My TL is suddenly quite active.

Here’s what started it.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:53:59pm

re: #91 The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil

Also, Bat Boy and a jar of racist marmalade are fighting to the death over who gets to be One-or-Less-Eyed King of the Rubes.

eta: not their deaths, of course, just the death of epistemology, object permanence, and anybody fast on the cyanide tooth trigger.

I love you guys.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 10:57:06pm

re: #134 Alyosha

Nice thought. Utterly delusional.

[Embedded content]

He blocked me after one tweet. This one.

I was responding to this.

Dude lives in Narnia.

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William Lewis  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:02:29pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

He blocked me after one tweet. This one.

[Embedded content]

Dude lives in Narnia.

Not even. Aslan is an utterly realistic creation compared to the fantasy of that chart…

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Alyosha  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:03:22pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Dude lives in Narnia.

Heh. When do they vote?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:08:15pm

For you tech fans: Frog and Toad are Co-founders

medium.com

The Funding
Toad Makes Big Plans

On Toad’s birthday Frog closed their Series B funding.

Toad was delighted. “Happy birthday,” said Frog. Toad looked at the money in their bank account. Dollar signs filled his eyes.

“I am sorry,” said Frog, “this valuation is much too big for you. I should have raised a smaller amount.”

“No,” said Toad, “this money is your present to me. I like it. I will spend it the way our investors want us to.”

More at link

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No Depression  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:45:22pm

re: #134 Alyosha

Nice thought. Utterly delusional.

[Embedded content]

Here’s how Wikipedia describes him:

Michael Paul Oman-Reagan (born 1976) is an American post-minimal post-conceptual artist and curator. He was named one of Library Journal’s Movers & Shakers in 2012, for his work with the Occupy Wall Street People’s Library.[1] Oman-Reagan is known for his work around socio-cultural and anthropological themes.[2]

Smarmy, pretentious and delusional - three of my least favorite qualities in a person. And I say that as someone who’s often guilty of pretentiousness himself.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:09:46am

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Nice matched with the Trump Duck:

[Embedded content]

Now we need a Hillary Duck Hen to begin the Duck Candidates for the Dems.

/Heh.

That’s really more of a Sanders duck.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:20:01am

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

He blocked me after one tweet. This one.

[Embedded content]

Dude lives in Narnia.

Note that chart predicts a 26 point Sanders win in Wyoming.

Yeah, might want to tweak that a bit.

edit: also, those numbers appear to be margin of victory, not delegates, making them extra useless.

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Alyosha  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:45:32am

re: #141 No Depression

Here’s how Wikipedia describes him:

Smarmy, pretentious and delusional - three of my least favorite qualities in a person. And I say that as someone who’s often guilty of pretentiousness himself.

Though apparently still very much a romanticist.

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Alyosha  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:37:58am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 3:07:06am

So, today I started filling in my tax return. Up till now, I’ve used TaxAct with no complaints at no additional cost (except for filing a state return). But, I see some things have changed. In order to import the previous year’s return, I have to buy the Basic edition ($14.99). To fill in the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, I have to upgrade yet again. So, my “free return” is no longer free.

So, I go to the IRS website. The choices for a free tax return are myriad, and confusing. I’ll probably end up using Turbotax, but jeez, WTF happened this year? Did some provision of the e-filing provision expire, and now there are limitations on who can file for free? Or have the tax prep providers found loopholes to charge fees? Either way, I am not a happy taxpayer right now.

Turbotax will charge me $54.99, since I have to file the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion form. So, it’s back to TaxAct. They’re a little cheaper.

What this means is I have to pay money to tell Uncle Sam I don’t owe him any money this year. Talk about disincentives.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 10, 2016 • 3:30:46am

re: #146 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I used H&R Block through this link:
tax.virginia.gov

Don’t know what state you’re considered in, but if those links don’t work for people outside of Virginia, the state tax authorities in your state might have links too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 3:33:53am

re: #147 Timothy Watson

I used H&R Block through this link:
tax.virginia.gov

Don’t know what state you’re considered in, but if those links don’t work for people outside of Virginia, the state tax authorities in your state might have links too.

For my situation, I suspect I’ll have to pay to file online no matter who I use, because of the additional forms for people working abroad. Last year, those were all free. Seems like something has changed for Tax year 2015.

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Ming5000  Apr 10, 2016 • 3:34:59am

Confession:
I was wondering who this new young gun was; Spanky McSizzlechest.

I only realized it is Goddamnedfrank a few moments ago.

My hubris will be docked another 48 hours. At this rate when can I ever be hubristic again!?

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Ming5000  Apr 10, 2016 • 3:47:07am

re: #124 Teukka

Aargh: Confession 2:
Watched Teukka’s offering of Steve’n’Seagulls. I thought, “They are Red Staters! But, they seem so enlightened can they really be Trumpers or TrusTeds?”

Well, they are Finnish!

Also,

The name of the band is a pun on American actor Steven Seagal.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 10, 2016 • 4:19:26am

re: #145 Alyosha

[Embedded content]

How will we explain this to the children?!?!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 4:39:48am

re: #141 No Depression

Here’s how Wikipedia describes him:

Smarmy, pretentious and delusional - three of my least favorite qualities in a person. And I say that as someone who’s often guilty of pretentiousness himself.

Post-rational.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 6:07:20am

re: #145 Alyosha

Sadly, I had to do some due diligence to find out if she is sarcastic or simply stretching the bounds of hip stupidity.

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Alyosha  Apr 10, 2016 • 6:27:19am

re: #153 Decatur Deb

I might have done you the courtesy of making that clearer. But yeah. Well-informed but snarky as all get out.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 6:39:57am

re: #154 Alyosha

I might have done you the courtesy of making that clearer. But yeah. Well-informed but snarky as all get out.

Snarky is good, and there were a few good bits in her timeline (chocolate brownies). There are people on my side who could have managed some outrage over the wedding photo.

(Just got a Dream Defenders essay from someone who insists on the need to use the spelling ‘womyn’, then ends ‘in solidarity’.)

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CleverToad  Apr 10, 2016 • 6:42:50am

re: #145 Alyosha

[Embedded content]

As the parent of a former fan, I had to go to their site to check this out. The Wiggles were up there with Lamb Chop, Veggie Tales, and Thomas the Tank Engine in the list of kids’ programs I could stand to watch almost as many times as my preschooler wanted to watch them.

Was amused by the comments — you mix a yellow Wiggle with a purple Wiggle and you get little brown Wiggles?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2016 • 6:49:34am

Trump admits he wants to extort tribute from our allies, the way a medieval potentate would. Winning!

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2016 • 6:50:51am

re: #114 Jay C

No way! The duck is much better-looking……

And doesn’t need as much water.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:02:05am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

Have been tracking Early Music on YouTube for a few days. A roundabout trip took me to this group, this album:

en.wikipedia.org

“Por Que Llorax Blanca Nina”(Sephardic Jewish music from Sarajevo) Jordi Savall, Montserrat Figueras

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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:02:45am

re: #156 CleverToad

As the parent of a former fan, I had to go to their site to check this out. The Wiggles were up there with Lamb Chop, Veggie Tales, and Thomas the Tank Engine in the list of kids’ programs I could stand to watch almost as many times as my preschooler wanted to watch them.

Was amused by the comments — you mix a yellow Wiggle with a purple Wiggle and you get little brown Wiggles?

Heh.

Wiggles weren’t bad. I did prefer early Thomas episodes based on the Reverend’s stories and VeggieTales i can still happily watch. Heck I think they’d make a great adult Christian ed class.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:40:12am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

An excellent way to make the US a pariah.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:50:36am

Wish me luck, photobugs. I’ve ordered a Chinese-made 50mm f1.7 lens for my Nikon. Original price was 300 RMB ($47) reduced to 189 RMB ($30). I’ve seen some photos taken by someone besides the vendor, and they look pretty sharp with nice bokeh.

I was shopping for stuff online, and it popped up on “things we think you’ll like”. And I just got paid for an editing job, so there ya go.

The brand is Vimica, BTW

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:53:40am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

Trump admits he wants to extort tribute from our allies, the way a medieval potentate would. Winning!

[Embedded content]

Sounds just like a protection racket.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:55:33am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds just like a protection racket.

He probably learned it from his construction contractors in NY, NJ and Vegas, or their “associates.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2016 • 7:58:59am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:00:48am

Well, I finished my taxes. Just need to double check a couple of things from last year’s returns, and it’ll be out of my hair for another year.

TaxAct charged $30 for the pleasure of using their service. Last year, it was all free. I’m still irritated by the change.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:03:19am
Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN)U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry was the intended target of rocket strikes in Afghanistan’s capital Saturday, the Taliban said in a statement claiming responsibility for the attacks.

The attacks in Kabul on Saturday night came within an hour after Kerry had departed Afghanistan, following a visit aimed at defusing a political crisis in the unity government he helped build.
No casualties resulted from the attacks, according to Afghan government spokesman Sediq Sediqqi.

What a different news day it would be had they killed our Sec State.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:05:10am

re: #167 Great White Snark

What a different news day it would be had they killed our Sec State.

The GOP bullshit artists would have worn two bandaids.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:10:30am

re: #167 Great White Snark

What a different news day it would be had they killed our Sec State.

Maybe Kerry had intel about the possibility of a strike. I can’t imagine he’d go in there without some recon first.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:12:43am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Quite true, but sometimes the bad guys catch a clever break. Which in my view is what happened in Benghazi. We took a risk to help that place, and it backfired despite the best of intentions and skilled people.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:17:31am

Did any of them even finish high school?

Prank Caller Tricks Burger King Workers Into Smashing Windows
The damage the workers did with tire irons and other objects likely caused thousands of dollars in damage.

huffingtonpost.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:21:15am

re: #171 Great White Snark

Did any of them even finish high school?

huffingtonpost.com

Well, they won’t be working at that BK anymore. I wouldn’t want employees that stupid working for me.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:25:47am

Time to turn in for me. See you after the earth rotates a bit more.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:28:13am

re: #160 William Lewis

Heh.

Wiggles weren’t bad. I did prefer early Thomas episodes based on the Reverend’s stories and VeggieTales i can still happily watch. Heck I think they’d make a great adult Christian ed class.

My favorite version of a VeggieTales song:

Sibling Rivalry - Stargate SG1 (Humor)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:45:07am

re: #166 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, I finished my taxes. Just need to double check a couple of things from last year’s returns, and it’ll be out of my hair for another year.

TaxAct charged $30 for the pleasure of using their service. Last year, it was all free. I’m still irritated by the change.

First dose is free. The rest cost you.

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Floral Giraffe  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:55:38am

Hello, all.
Charles, I think Randy Newman is so human, and explains feelings well!

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:59:23am

Young white Berner has life advice for John Lewis.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 8:59:36am

re: #176 Floral Giraffe

Happy Sunday. Good Morning, if only by a minute.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:07:49am

Still saying the South doesn’t matter.

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Jenner7  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:12:06am

re: #177 jaunte

The establishment that got us the ACA? The establishment that brought our troops home? The establishment that got us the Lily Ledbetter Act? The establishment that pushed through gay rights and gay marriage in this country?

These people have no clue what they’re talking about. None. They want to rail against the establishment? Go rail at the Republican Party.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:13:50am

Party rules and process is Establishment corruption!!!

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:18:53am

re: #181 jaunte

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Party rules and process is Establishment corruption!!!

Pure selfishness to run for the party leadership and not do a damn thing for peers and down ticket candidates.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:19:22am

re: #181 jaunte

He should check the rules of Wyoming Caucus/Primary. It is possible to have a win and not have all of the delegates. The delegate count can be based on counties and who votes in them.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:20:16am

re: #182 gwangung

It’s certainly not a great habit for someone who claims to want to lead.

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:21:16am

re: #184 jaunte

It’s certainly not a great habit for someone who claims to want to lead.

Yeah. That’s one of the biggest problems I have with his campaign, and one I can happily hammer with Sanders supporters.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:22:30am

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

If there is any political tactic being displayed, it’s an attempt to keep the base charged up by the “unfairness” of following the rules.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:22:59am

re: #181 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Party rules and process is Establishment corruption!!!

I’ve been trying to tell Berniebros that caucuses suck and are undemocratic. They didn’t care because Bernie was winning most of them and insisted it was just sour grapes on my part. Now they realize why they suck.
e_e

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:23:35am

re: #186 jaunte

I agree. Stir up people to keep one’s name in the papers/media./half

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No Depression  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:24:55am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still saying the South doesn’t matter.

[Embedded content]

Hey Bernie, you wanna know which voters really don’t count? Your Bernie-or-Bust dipshits, cause THEY DON’T FUCKING VOTE.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:31:56am

Gah. Windows 10 did a major upgrade this morning (took almost an hour) and now it won’t recognize my printer, although it’s still listed in the devices. I spent another hour trying to get it connected, then decided to uninstall it, but it won’t uninstall. Every time I try to send something I get a printer error. Pissing me off royally. I’m not good with computers and I’m feeling helpless and stupid this morning.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:39:49am

re: #181 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Party rules and process is Establishment corruption!!!

Foolish virgins.

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b_sharp  Apr 10, 2016 • 9:47:26am

re: #190 stpaulbear

Gah. Windows 10 did a major upgrade this morning (took almost an hour) and now it won’t recognize my printer, although it’s still listed in the devices. I spent another hour trying to get it connected, then decided to uninstall it, but it won’t uninstall. Every time I try to send something I get a printer error. Pissing me off royally. I’m not good with computers and I’m feeling helpless and stupid this morning.

The most recent Windows 10 build has fucked up quite a few things. I spent Friday rolling it back on several client systems because it prevented one of their finance apps from working.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:05:38am

OK. I got my printer uninstalled and reinstalled and it’s working again.

The upgrade installed Cortana as the default search window. I need to get rid of that ASAP. (edit: Corana has been sent to the bench)

Another new thing: when I opened LGF just now, I also got a full size ad in a new tab for some kind of heath thing. It got pissy when I tried to close it (with a little window saying Wait! Wait! and telling me what I’m missing out on). Anyone else gotten that ad?

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:09:05am

re: #193 stpaulbear

OK. I got my printer uninstalled and reinstalled and it’s working again.

The upgrade installed Cortana as the default search window. I need to get rid of that ASAP. (edit: Corana has been sent to the bench)

Another new thing: when I opened LGF just now, I also got a full size ad in a new tab for some kind of heath thing. It got pissy when I tried to close it (with a little window saying Wait! Wait! and telling me what I’m missing out on). Anyone else gotten that ad?

No, but I’ve gotten the flash thing which crashes Linux machines a coupla times.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:10:52am

Sunday brunch anyone? I saw a recipe on Guy Fieri’s show. Can’t find it exactly so gonna wing it. Sautee granny smith apple slices with cinnamon etc., then pour pancake batter on the whole thing and pop it into the oven.

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Jenner7  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:33:14am
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Joe Bacon  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:34:07am

re: #193 stpaulbear

OK. I got my printer uninstalled and reinstalled and it’s working again.

The upgrade installed Cortana as the default search window. I need to get rid of that ASAP. (edit: Corana has been sent to the bench)

Another new thing: when I opened LGF just now, I also got a full size ad in a new tab for some kind of heath thing. It got pissy when I tried to close it (with a little window saying Wait! Wait! and telling me what I’m missing out on). Anyone else gotten that ad?

I keep getting the Peter Schiff BS ad alleging Social Security is going broke next year…

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Testy Toad T  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:35:49am

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

He should check the rules of Wyoming Caucus/Primary. It is possible to have a win and not have all of the delegates. The delegate count can be based on counties and who votes in them.

It’s a special kind of corruption to engineer completely transparent and directly procedural rules that can be trusted to fuck over Sanders’ campaign before he even announced his candidacy.

Or something.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:37:27am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:37:31am

re: #198 Testy Toad T

It’s a special kind of corruption to engineer completely transparent and directly procedural rules that can be trusted to fuck over Sanders’ campaign before he even announced his candidacy.

Or something.

I knew it. The Clintons have Teeps, that’s how they knew Sanders was gonna run.
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CleverToad  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:41:00am

re: #174 sagehen

My favorite version of a VeggieTales song:

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*snicker*
Probably my favorite VeggieTales song, as it happens.

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BadgerB  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:41:57am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Make way for reptiles!

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Jenner7  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:42:36am

About those Sanders supporters trying to unseat Dems in Utah with their more “progressive” candidates:

Enthusiastic, but not well organized, a slate of Bernie Sanders supporters failed to unseat House incumbents at the Salt Lake County Democratic Convention on Saturday.

The legislative candidates running as part of the United Progressive Coalition argued that they could harness the enthusiasm of Sanders’ presidential bid to grow the party and eventually pull this conservative state to the left. On March 22, Sanders received 70 percent of the vote in the state’s caucuses, where the delegates to the county convention were also elected.

None of these first-time candidates were well versed in party rules or had potential delegates lined up, as a result they were at a severe disadvantage against sitting lawmakers who not only are better organized, but well known within the Democratic establishment.

sltrib.com

Shocking. Not shocking.

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Whack-A-Mole  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:44:37am

re: #201 CleverToad

I’ve always been partial to this one:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:52:28am

re: #181 jaunte

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Party rules and process is Establishment corruption!!!

You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred Bernie.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2016 • 10:55:42am
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Jenner7  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:02:14am

I don’t understand how he thinks this line helps him.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:02:19am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:06:07am

re: #207 Jenner7

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I don’t understand how he thinks this line helps him.

It helps him with his fans, because it gives them a way to dismiss her 2.4 Million vote lead.

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:06:14am

re: #196 Jenner7

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Wonder if the Berners will now throw Cummings under the bus. He is just about my favorite Rep in DC. If not for him, Issa and Gowdy would have been total runaway trains in their BENGHAZI hearings.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:08:19am

It’s a crazy Sunday in Columbus. I awoke to the news that former Ohio State/New Orleans Saint football player Will Smith was shot and killed in what is being called a road rage incident in New Orleans late last night. His wife was also shot in the leg(s). The guy that he got in the scuffle with stayed at the scene and has been arrested. Strange that.

Then there was a report of some guy overnight being served with a warrant for his arrest in an apartment just a bit north of the Ohio State campus just off High Street. It turned into a standoff. So a SWAT team was called and the rest of the apartment was evacuated along with neighbors in other buildings. One Columbus police officer was shot and was said to be in grave condition. Then apparently the guy started the place on fire and the cops help the firefighters back.

There was said to be a big bang, and shortly after that the guy was transported to the hospital, arrested with no news on his condition. The apartment looked to be burning pretty good, but was eventually put out.

Then in Reynoldsburg, a town (suburb) to the east of Columbus, occurring about the same time, three people were shot in succession in what looked like a townhouse complex. Two apparently died, one in critical condition and a suspect arrested.

Also a car chase between the cops and a guy and woman in a Dodge Charger went through several areas of the city and ended up on Main Street about 2 miles up from where I live. The cops put out spike strips and the guy tried to avoid them and ended up going up over the curb and wrapping the car around a metal sign traffic light pole and a wood telephone pole killing himself and badly injuring the woman.

And all for what? A bunch of people now out of an apartment and losing belongings because a resident refused arrest. A cop clinging to life. Two people killed and one badly shot in what sounds like some kind of a neighborhood revenge, And then a guy kills himself running from the cops in his car and just about kills the woman with him

It will probably turn out that all of it was unneeded and all that carnage happened due to people just being idiots refusing arrest and/or getting out of control due to alcohol or drugs. Strange freaking day. I hope people cool the hell out.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:15:23am

re: #211 ObserverArt

Excellent examples of why gun control is an important thing, but addressing human violence that happens without good cause is the important thing.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:15:49am

re: #195 Great White Snark

Sunday brunch anyone? I saw a recipe on Guy Fieri’s show. Can’t find it exactly so gonna wing it. Sautee granny smith apple slices with cinnamon etc., then pour pancake batter on the whole thing and pop it into the oven.

Sounds like a variant on the German pancake aka “Dutch Baby”.

en.wikipedia.org

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:18:48am

irony - cruz’s denial of 1237 strategy may founder on trump sweeping n.y. because of cruz’s stupid n.y. values remark

mwahaha

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:21:35am

re: #214 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

irony - cruz’s denial of 1237 strategy may founder on trump sweeping n.y. because of cruz’s stupid n.y. values remark

mwahaha

My joy with watching the GOP self-immolate is counterbalanced by the fear that Cruz or Trump might somehow win the Presidency. And also by the fact that losing one election will not cause the GOP to regain its sanity as a major party with a responsibility to properly represent a country.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:24:26am

re: #215 Feline Fearless Leader

And also by the fact that losing one election will not cause the GOP to regain its sanity as a major party with a responsibility to properly represent a country.

I really, really wish Clinton were younger. Man, I would have voted Warren in a heartbeat if I’d had the option.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:25:21am

re: #215 Feline Fearless Leader

My joy with watching the GOP self-immolate is counterbalanced by the fear that Cruz or Trump might somehow win the Presidency. And also by the fact that losing one election will not cause the GOP to regain its sanity as a major party with a responsibility to properly represent a country.

that’s the i feel

also surely somebody else will try to exploit the “nationalist”, that is, fascist, tendancies revealed by you know who

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BadgerB  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:26:12am

re: #207 Jenner7

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I don’t understand how he thinks this line helps him.

<voted for Hillary in the Mass primary, will vote for either in the general>

His throwaway about ‘that was the South’ is an example of his STILL not internalizing why he lost those state by so much and is generally condescending but was a clumsy (and failed) attempt to answer the ‘but she’s getting more votes’ point.

He core point is right on message, “what Democrats want is to beat Trump/Cruz”, his 2nd point to the effect of ‘and I’m (generally) doing better head to head in polling about Novermber’ is also true. This is where he should be, its an honest case for why he should be the candidate. [not really saying I agree but if he wins, this is how he gets there]

If he wins NY 55-45 then the race might be on again. If NY splits 50-50 then his race is probably over but he can still rationalize saying he has a chance up until California. If he loses NY (or Penn) by 10+ points its all over, there are just not enough votes left to even pretend there is a way back. So basically, he is hoping that the polling is as far off in NY as it is was in Michigan which it could be but I wouldn’t put much money on it.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:26:31am
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SoundGuy 2016  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:28:17am

Another day Bernie Berserkers going crazy on the Twits and FB’s. Another day ending in Y.

If you’ve given $1 to Clinton or don’t unquestioningly accept FB or Twitter memes critical of Clinton, you are in the Clinton Machine.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:28:26am

re: #203 Jenner7

About those Sanders supporters trying to unseat Dems in Utah with their more “progressive” candidates:

sltrib.com

Shocking. Not shocking.

I wonder how many of them ever try to run for office again. Or, is this one time enthusiasm that will ‘bern’ out and they will never be heard from again?

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Viscous Obama  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:28:48am

re: #54 teleskiguy

When all is said and done, this has to be regarded as one of the coolest things they found in the Zappa Vault.

In 1980 Zappa gets off a plane in San Francisco and the Navy Marching Band greets him in the terminal with a great rendition of “Joe’s Garage.” The song was only a year old or so at the time.

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Look at that majestic beard the bandleader has. Another grand American tradition that Reagan fucked over.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:33:41am

re: #207 Jenner7

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I don’t understand how he thinks this line helps him.

Has Bernie always reference himself in third person? Maybe he is now having an out-of-body experience.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:35:40am

re: #221 ObserverArt

I wonder how many of them ever try to run for office again. Or, is this one time enthusiasm that will ‘bern’ out and they will never be heard from again?

I suspect that they have no idea how much work, time and effort is involved in running for elected office.
No. idea.

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SoundGuy 2016  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:35:54am

Welcome to the Recliner, we got fun and games’

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:41:57am

re: #225 SoundGuy 2016

Welcome to the Recliner, we got fun and games’

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The fact that he performed rather than calling it off seems like a good thing to me.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:48:03am

re: #212 Great White Snark

Excellent examples of why gun control is an important thing, but addressing human violence that happens without good cause is the important thing.

I understand, but I still say everyone would have stood a better chance if guns were not involved.

Would the cop have been gravely injured if he was in his tactical gear and the nut in the apartment attacked with a knife, hatchet or baseball bat?

Would a big strapping football player have stood a better chance if the roadrager had the same weapons? He might have been able to defend and disarm the guy.

Would three people shot in the neighborhood have stood a better chance if say they all knew each other and the guy that did the shooting only had the same weapons and word got out from one to another and the police were called? The other weapons take time and you have to physically stab or bash someone. That is not as easy as using a gun.

And even the guy in the car. What if he was was scared of getting pulled over for DWI or whatever started the car chase because he had an illegal gun in the car, or a warrant out for some kind of a crime with a gun? Yeah, I now that is hypothetical, but you never know.

I still say, as will many others, that guns make this stuff happen so quickly, the person in a rage reacts before they even know what is going on. It eliminates the time for someone to even ask themselves “what am I doing?”

Why did the guy that shot Will Smith stay at the scene of the road rage incident? Did he himself realize he really messed up big time, so he stayed knowing he was in a rage and then after doing it realized what he had done?

This argument will go on and on…and it sucks.

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SoundGuy 2016  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:48:58am

Yah, I don’t know him for that at all. Just GnR rock and roll… Welcome to the Jungle lyrics… now sung from a recliner. Grohl made it cool. Axl… well at least he showed up.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:51:40am

re: #225 SoundGuy 2016

Welcome to the Recliner, we got fun and games’

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Is that a recliner surrounded by guitars so that it has a bit of that Game of Thrones feel to it?

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:52:07am

Axl looks uncomfortably like Trump in that photo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:53:44am

tone……..

again…

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 11:57:39am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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tone……..

again…

Yeah…Hilary has backed off a bit on the treble and added some bass.

People were criticizing her for getting too loud and screaming.

Dudebros don’t like that. They want it mellow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:04:54pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:13:22pm

We are cleaning out the garage for Passover and Zedushka found a very fancy set of bone china, which he asked “Why don’t we use this any more?” and I said “Oh there are so many cracked and chipped pieces” and he’s like “well what if I find whole place settings will you use it again” and I’m like “OK” so he found like 6 whole place settings!

Also he found a case of beer which we must use up right away because “biur chametz

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:16:17pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A reminder…Hastert, Gingrich and Livingston…all family values Republicans. All involved with the Republicans that wanted to impeach Bill Clinton. All now shown to have been hypocritical jack asses with their own indiscretions.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:16:57pm

re: #227 ObserverArt

That entry sounds like I dismissed, rather than embraced gun control first. Of course the gun made it easier to kill.

OTOH in sporting places like a skeet range the guns abound an nobody gets hurt unless they shut a finger in a door. Go to a place with no guns at all but in a bunch of violent predatory or angry men and you still made a dangerous mistake.

The access to the tools and the motivation to do harm are both well deserving of our efforts as a culture. Thanks to dangerous rhetoric put out by the NRA and breathlessly repeated in the click bait ratings cycle, this becomes a more difficult point to make than it needed to be.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:24:09pm

re: #236 Great White Snark

That entry sounds like I dismissed, rather than embraced gun control first. Of course the gun made it easier to kill.

OTOH in sporting places like a skeet range the guns abound an nobody gets hurt unless they shut a finger in a door. Go to a place with no guns at all but in a bunch of violent predatory or angry men and you still made a dangerous mistake.

The access to the tools and the motivation to do harm are both well deserving of our efforts as a culture. Thanks to dangerous rhetoric put out by the NRA and breathlessly repeated in the click bait ratings cycle, this becomes a more difficult point to make than it needed to be.

Well, there was that thing with Chris Kyle.

Realistically, if the CDC or other organizations were able to keep statistics of means used to kill…how do you think guns would stand up in numbers versus everything else that was used to murder?

I know I’d like to see those stats.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:30:01pm

re: #237 ObserverArt

Well, there was that thing with Chris Kyle.

Realistically, if the CDC or other organizations were able to keep statistics of means used to kill…how do you think guns would stand up in numbers versus everything else that was used to murder?

I know I’d like to see those stats.

Don’t bother looking too hard to prove a point I’d grant you without the trouble. Of course the most powerful device in the question has the expected result. But here ya go. Who told you this data could not be gathered?

fbi.gov

Sure there was that thing, a murder of Kyle. On any weekend countless thousands of people go out and shoot for fun at targets. A couple thousand people per weekend almost every weekend where I own a share. One facility. Most of the injuries happen on the way there or on the way home in a car incident.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:40:28pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

We are cleaning out the garage for Passover and Zedushka found a very fancy set of bone china, which he asked “Why don’t we use this any more?” and I said “Oh there are so many cracked and chipped pieces” and he’s like “well what if I find whole place settings will you use it again” and I’m like “OK” so he found like 6 whole place settings!

Also he found a case of beer which we must use up right away because “biur chametz

Sad day when I learned that in a Ra’anana supermarket.

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Bass Reeves  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:45:33pm

re: #238 Great White Snark

Who told you this data could not be gathered?

fbi.gov

Accidents don’t get labeled as crimes. As far as this data not being able to be gathered, 1996 Dickey Amendment says federal funds can’t be used to research gun violence.

huffingtonpost.com

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Archangelus  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:47:41pm

re: #192 b_sharp

The most recent Windows 10 build has fucked up quite a few things. I spent Friday rolling it back on several client systems because it prevented one of their finance apps from working.

Yikes. Well, now I know why all my “you simply HAVE to upgrade to W10 already” friends went silent as of late…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2016 • 12:48:25pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:01:14pm

re: #238 Great White Snark

Don’t bother looking too hard to prove a point I’d grant you without the trouble. Of course the most powerful device in the question has the expected result. But here ya go. Who told you this data could not be gathered?

re: #241 Bass Reeves

Accidents don’t get labeled as crimes. As far as this data not being able to be gathered, 1996 Dickey Amendment says federal funds can’t be used to research gun violence.

Bass Reeves…Thank you. I thought there was talk about the CDC wanting to keep stats and were denied, or something like that.

And Great White…I never got a chance to ask you as you stepped out of the last discussion. What do you think of how Australia handled guns after the grim Port Arthur shootings that caused them to drastically change their laws?

Wiki - Port Arthur Massacre

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:01:20pm

re: #241 Bass Reeves

That’s a deeper look, not actually the numbers Obs. Art asked for. That stuff he referenced is easy to find and more. As I’ve said before that further research needs to happen. Easy (easiest really) way around that law is states or a private group just fund it and do it. To some degree that is happening. I don’t think there was confusion about accident vs intentional harm as in well if not a gun then…

The point he was making is that the gun makes it way too easy to kill. Not a point I argue at all. On a lighter note I’d rather drop my gun on my foot than my best knife from the kitchen.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:10:28pm

Report this asshole.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:10:31pm

re: #220 SoundGuy 2016

Another day Bernie Berserkers going crazy on the Twits and FB’s. Another day ending in Y.

If you’ve given $1 to Clinton or don’t unquestioningly accept FB or Twitter memes critical of Clinton, you are in the Clinton Machine.

I remember when I gave $50 yesterday, the Hillary Victory Fund website began playing Pink Floyd’s “Welcome To The Machine”. Seemed ominous.
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Bass Reeves  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:11:06pm

re: #245 Great White Snark

I think the larger point is that guns are a hazard that has successfully lobbied to keep themselves from being held accountable for the logically expected results of their use, and we don’t have a good idea how much they need to be held accountable, due to said lobbying. The link actually talks about how the lack of federal funding even prohibits researchers from even wanting to tackle the problem in the first place.

I mean, sure the easiest way is to find some billionaires who don’t mind giving up generational money to study something that the legislative branch is completely unwilling to tackle, but…yeah really?

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:11:53pm

re: #210 BeachDem

Wonder if the Berners will now throw Cummings under the bus. He is just about my favorite Rep in DC. If not for him, Issa and Gowdy would have been total runaway trains in their BENGHAZI hearings.

And at the DailyBern, on the story about the Cummings endorsement:

What a fantastic endorsement!

Not really; just another “establishment” Democrat endorsing the establishment candidate.

Incumbents love the status quo. No surprise here. Am surprised how many “Dems” support the status quo with little desire for change. Not sure we need a Dem party if there’s no desire for a progressive platform. The rigged charade continues. Same As it ever was.

Again on the losing end, Elijah. When ya gonna learn?

Just pointing out that yet another progressive African American of some clout signing with the wrong team if they truly want more progressive progress. A shame, really.

In fairness, most of the comments were very positive, and people didn’t take kindly to the nastiness, but I wonder what Cummings’ facebook page looks like today.

Also, that big plan for Sanders supporters to contact Superdelegates to try to flip them is not going well—from a WSJ article:

“A California super delegate backing Mrs. Clinton, Bob Mulholland, wrote a letter to Mr. Sanders this week saying the outreach to superdelegates from Sanders voters has gotten offensive, including calls coming late at night. Other superdelegates said they have gotten unwanted calls at work from Sanders backers, or have seen their Facebook pages flooded with warnings of political repercussions for supporting Mrs. Clinton.”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:12:19pm
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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:12:40pm

re: #244 ObserverArt

What they did worked well for them. The hard part is how much would transfer over to our culture and laws. The constitutions are very different in the details. They don’t have a 1st let alone 2nd amendment comparable to ours. What I think would work well here I have probably posted before. Not sure how much of that you saw.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:12:54pm

re: #229 ObserverArt

Is that a recliner surrounded by guitars so that it has a bit of that Game of Thrones feel to it?

Are they the Guitars of the Vanquished?

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:19:16pm

re: #248 Bass Reeves

I think the larger point is that guns are a hazard that has successfully lobbied to keep themselves from being held accountable for the logically expected results of their use, and we don’t have a good idea how much they need to be held accountable, due to said lobbying. The link actually talks about how the lack of federal funding even prohibits researchers from even wanting to tackle the problem in the first place.

I mean, sure the easiest way is to find some billionaires who don’t mind giving up generational money to study something that the legislative branch is completely unwilling to tackle, but…yeah really?

I agree with you on the larger point. Well aware of the funding rule. It just has nothing to do with what ObserverArt asked for. Those numbers are available.

I think our differences such as they might be are what measures actually impinge on an individual right we have. I hope you have seen my opposition to open carry, support for universal registration, etc.?

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Archangelus  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:19:57pm

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember when I gave $50 yesterday, the Hillary Victory Fund website began playing Pink Floyd’s “Welcome To The Machine”. Seemed ominous.
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After I donated, YouTube suddenly kept recommending this - highly suspicious!!!!1eleventy

Person Of Interest Soundtrack - The Machine Theme (Compilation)

…Granted, it’s possible it might have had something to do with my looking into when the next season is finally coming… but that doesn’t mean there’s NOT a big Hillary conspiracy out there!!! ///

On a more serious note, Ramin Djawadi’s work as composer for the show’s soundtrack has been - much like with his other works including the Game of Thrones soundtracks - somewhere between great and totally brilliant.

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Bass Reeves  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:20:45pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

I agree that our culture would make the Australian model unworkable. I just tend to think that’s a problem with our culture, not the model. I’m not exactly an advocate for a gun free US, but I do think the idea that EVERYONE should be able to own a gun no matter what needs to be rethought. It’s already accepted that gun control is a right that can be legislatively abolished, but a certain set of gun owners just think that restriction should only happen to others, because….reasons.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:21:37pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

What they did worked well for them. The hard part is how much would transfer over to our culture and laws. The constitutions are very different in the details. They don’t have a 1st let alone 2nd amendment comparable to ours. What I think would work well here I have probably posted before. Not sure how much of that you saw.

Here is a another Wiki link that has a good summation to the Australian gun controls. I haven’t read it all thoroughly, but it seems the Australians had to do some heavy maneuvering around their previous laws too, and they also met much resistance…some from…you guessed it…the American NRA. Gee, I wonder why?

Wiki - Gun laws in Australia

And then there is this in the text.

Statements by organisations

The American National Rifle Association claimed in 2000 that violent crimes had increased in Australia since the introduction of new laws. The federal Attorney General Daryl Williams accused the NRA of falsifying government statistics and urged the NRA to “remove any reference to Australia” from its website.[64]

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:28:28pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:28:47pm

re: #251 Great White Snark

What they did worked well for them. The hard part is how much would transfer over to our culture and laws. The constitutions are very different in the details. They don’t have a 1st let alone 2nd amendment comparable to ours. What I think would work well here I have probably posted before. Not sure how much of that you saw.

Our second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with personal gun ownership, and even less to do with handguns (“The security of…[the] State” hinging on handguns?) Don’t let Fat Tony and the other illiterate moron judges who have ruled otherwise lie to you.

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Archangelus  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:29:05pm

re: #255 Bass Reeves

I agree that our culture would make the Australian model unworkable. I just tend to think that’s a problem with our culture, not the model. I’m not exactly an advocate for a gun free US, but I do think the idea that EVERYONE should be able to own a gun no matter what needs to be rethought. It’s already accepted that gun control is a right that can be legislatively abolished, but a certain set of gun owners just think that restriction should only happen to others, because….reasons.

I’m in favor of the rather strict Israeli model, not that it has a snowball’s chance in hell of ever seeing the light of day in the US. At the very least, some amount of supervision and most importantly training required to have a gun should at some level be properly introduced… drivers have to take classes and tests before they’re allowed to be behind the wheel of a car or a motorcycle - a means of transportation that poses a threat to life when misused - why should it not be like that for guns, a means of maiming and KILLING PEOPLE that also poses a threat to life when misused?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:30:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:33:03pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

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Emulating Donald Segretti is not where the Left should be going.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:33:57pm

re: #256 ObserverArt
re: #255 Bass Reeves

The idea that everyone should be able to own a gun is not one I ever had. Not surprised about the NRA in all this.

On the NRA and the conversations we have. Like the FBI stats and some points you guys made there are givens here. Lets remember that NRA membership is middling single digits percentage. That much of what they say is well past anything I or most gun owners support. I figure my support for so many gun control measures provides some perspective for those days I come down against a particular measure.

I’m just a nic on the internet, but I also would hope time spent teaching safety and a very very strict flavor of self defense training count for something. Not so active that way anymore.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:34:40pm

re: #244 ObserverArt

And Great White…I never got a chance to ask you as you stepped out of the last discussion. What do you think of how Australia handled guns after the grim Port Arthur shootings that caused them to drastically change their laws?

Wiki - Port Arthur Massacre

My answer to that question — you can’t put toothpaste back in the tube.

There’s hundreds of millions of guns in this country. There’s tens of thousands of gunsmiths capable of making more in little machine shops that have a thousand other uses. There’s factories making guns for our military, for other nations’ militaries, and as long as those factories are in existence some percentage of their output falls off the back of trucks. Then there’s 3D printing.

We’re never going to be anything even vaguely close to a gun-free society.

Not sure I’d even want us to be. We actually do need for people to shoot a million or so deer every year, to keep their population in check. And wild boar, and rabbits, and geese and ducks and rattlesnakes and rabid possums and coyotes. We need for those people to spend time at the range. And it’s not unreasonable for people to want a handgun or two in the house, especially if they live where a cop might take more than 20 minutes to respond to a 911 call.

I do support universal background checks. I do oppose open carry. I want any kind of gun license to require that people pass a proficiency test of some kind — show me you know where the safety is. show me you know how to holster it. Show me a certain degree of accuracy in target shooting.

And every time somebody drops a gun in Walmart and it goes off, every time a toddler pulls a trigger… whoever owns that weapon needs to be charged with negligence, even if the bullet didn’t hit anybody.

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:36:16pm

re: #258 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’d not ignore you. But gonna leave that one be.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:39:01pm

A group of Sanders supporters are now smearing me on Twitter by saying I “inspired” Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik. Do I need to write another post explaining how completely false this accusation is?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:44:12pm

Jon Oliver on Congressional Campaign Contribution insanity….Link

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Archangelus  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:45:48pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

A group of Sanders supporters are now smearing me on Twitter by saying I “inspired” Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik. Do I need to write another post explaining how completely false this accusation is?

I’m inclined to say ‘yes’, given their willful ignorance and/or sheer stupidity. Though if you do, I’d recommend adding at least about 70% more insults directed in their general direction - because damned if they don’t deserve it for claiming that kind of crap at this point…

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Great White Snark  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:49:16pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Insert “Not this shit again” meme. There is no end to where some of these people will go. Very undeserved, you have not been unkind to him or his campaign.

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Nojay UK  Apr 10, 2016 • 1:58:24pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

A group of Sanders supporters are now smearing me on Twitter by saying I “inspired” Norwegian terrorist [name elided]. Do I need to write another post explaining how completely false this accusation is?

There has been an campaign by some Norwegians and others to refuse to use the Norwegian Nutter’s True Name in public, in part to mitigate what he did and deny him the notoriety he sought by his vile acts. I hold to that rule myself, I offer it as a consideration for others if they wish to contribute to the effort.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2016 • 2:11:30pm

re: #268 Great White Snark

Insert “Not this shit again” meme.

Not this shit again…
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2016 • 2:19:25pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

A group of Sanders supporters are now smearing me on Twitter by saying I “inspired” Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik. Do I need to write another post explaining how completely false this accusation is?

Are these actual Sanders Supporters or Glenn Greenwald ratfuckers who vote 3rd party?

I have been getting hit by “Sanders supporters” who turn out (after looking at their timeline) to be hardcore wingnuts.


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