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I can hardly believe his handlers let him out of his cage after the disastrous comments earlier, but here he is ranting again in North Carolina.

As I write, he’s talking about how easy it’s going to be to “build the wall,” and of course “Mexico’s gonna pay for it.” He’s comparing it to the Great Wall of China (which, by the way, failed to stop any invasions).

UPDATE at 8/9/16 4:22:34 pm by Charles Johnson

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443 comments
1
Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:16:55pm

It’s over, Donald. You’ll wake up with a horse head in your bed tomorrow morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:17:02pm

As his base of supporters diminishes, he is just going to turn up the racket…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:19:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:20:26pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:20:27pm

re: #1 Frankie Five Angels

It’s over, Donald. You’ll wake up with a horse head in your bed tomorrow morning.

The GOP simply does not have that kind of decisiveness. Even now, none of them can bring themselves to publicly denounce this madman.

No, our salvation will have to come from the Secret Service, but it’s clear that they don’t know how to deal with the fact that a major-party candidate for President of the United States has committed an open-and-shut felony. There should be handcuffs around his wrists now, but they don’t think they can “interfere” in an election.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:21:21pm

Josh Marshall had it right, Trump is being dominated rather than the reverse and his personality will not allow that to happen. He’ going to allow his rage to control and keep making gaffes like this, further destroying his campaign. The guy who insists he’s got thick skin is responding to a woman beating him at something with primal screams and increased talk about violence. It makes the accusations of spousal abuse and rape that much more believable.

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KerFuFFler  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:21:43pm

reposted from dead thread re: #443 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Statements like this make a tough and dangerous job a lot more difficult. I believe the SS are gonna do something to let DT know that they do not approve…

Yeah, they should have one of their “plain clothes” agents rush the podium and they should be a little slow to “contain the threat”. Let the asshole shit himself on stage.*

*Just a fantasy…..

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stpaulbear  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:22:09pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Elizabeth Warren turns to her friend and says “Hey, hold my wine while I tweet this!”

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wrenchwench  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:23:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:23:19pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:23:47pm

OH boy. Here comes the 2nd amendment.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:24:22pm

He’s like this now, and it’s still 90 days until the election.

Imagine what he’s gonna be like when it’s 9 days to the election and Hillary is still leading by better than 5% in the polls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:24:35pm

hiding the tweet Bob mentions:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:26:29pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:27:12pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

The change to the Twitter reporting process is nice.

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:27:14pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:27:16pm

This won’t improve his mood. Trumpy’s up five… in Kansas.

ksn.com

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:27:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:27:48pm

Is it over already?

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stpaulbear  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:28:10pm

My favorite take on Trump was by Trollhatan over at Balloon Juice this afternoon:

He’s riffing all the damn time, like a really bad Miles Davis on heroin.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:29:22pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

He’s riffing all the damn time, like a really bad Miles Davis on heroin.

Except Miles Davis was actually awesome on heroin.

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Scout  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:30:29pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

My favorite take on Trump was by Trollhatan over at Balloon Juice this afternoon:

No offense, but Miles Davis created.

Trump is destroying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:30:39pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hiding the tweet Bob mentions:

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This guy heard Donald loud and clear, too:

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:30:45pm

Wow - only four followers to go on Twitter until the big 20,000 round number.

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:31:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:32:17pm

re: #16 Lidane

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“When is the pavement well dressed? When it’s WEARING HUDSUCKER!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:32:20pm

Wingnuts can’t understand why nobody gives a shit that the Orlando shooter’s father attended a Clinton rally.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:33:06pm

re: #25 Lidane

And so did the audience.

But of course, it’s the liberals who are really to blame for all this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:34:11pm

re: #7 KerFuFFler

reposted from dead thread re: #443 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, they should have one of their “plain clothes” agents rush the podium and they should be a little slow to “contain the threat”. Let the asshole shit himself on stage.*

*Just a fantasy…..

something a bit more subtle than that, but yes, they need to put the Fear of God into the lad so that he dare not pull such a gaffe again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:34:17pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

And so did the audience.

But of course, it’s the liberals who are really to blame for all this.

Well, you know, you’d have to be totally corrupt to think he said what pretty much everyone seems to have heard him say.
//

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:36:04pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

This guy heard Donald loud and clear, too:

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:36:04pm

re: #25 Lidane

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None of the apologists ever seem to take the “He didn’t really mean it” logic to its final conclusion, namely that we can’t take him anything he says seriously.

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KerFuFFler  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:36:20pm

re: #25 Lidane

This game of “he didn’t mean it” is so tiring, and so ridiculous. He knew what he was saying, and he thought it was funny.

And if he is unaware of how dangerous such “jokes” are that only proves he is too oblivious to lead our country. What could possibly go wrong if Trump “joked” about using nukes?

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:36:54pm

This whole thread is worth a look. Please read:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:37:12pm

re: #33 KerFuFFler

And if he is unaware of how dangerous such “jokes” are that only proves he is too oblivious to lead our country. What could possibly go wrong if Trump “joked” about using nukes?

Like Reagan did?

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:37:12pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts can’t understand why nobody gives a shit that the Orlando shooter’s father attended a Clinton rally.

What’s the father accused of doing?

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:38:28pm

re: #36 No Country For Old Haters

What’s the father accused of doing?

Being a librul.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:38:42pm

re: #37 thedopefishlives

Which is a capital offense, according to the wingnuts.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:38:43pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see Butch is also an antisemite. I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.

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KGxvi  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:38:55pm

re: #36 No Country For Old Haters

What’s the father accused of doing?

Existing as a Muslim in America and not reporting his son for enhanced interrogation?

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:39:52pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts can’t understand why nobody gives a shit that the Orlando shooter’s father attended a Clinton rally.

He was personally invited by Hillary, who totally supports his son’s actions because it’s the compulsory PC thing to do!

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KerFuFFler  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:40:19pm

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like Reagan did?

Wow, I never heard about that! Tell me more.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:41:10pm

re: #39 CuriousLurker

I see Butch is also an antisemite. I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.

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Half his posts are religious extremism, the other half are hate. That one’s both.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:41:48pm

Because, Ivanka, your old man is an out of control psychopath who might get the nuke codes.

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:42:15pm

re: #33 KerFuFFler

And if he is unaware of how dangerous such “jokes” are that only proves he is too oblivious to lead our country. What could possibly go wrong if Trump “joked” about using nukes?

According to his ghostwriter, Trump doesn’t joke.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:42:39pm

re: #42 KerFuFFler

Wow, I never heard about that! Tell me more.

It was an inside joke, not meant to be broadcast, but was leaked to the press and caused more than a bit of a kerfuffle…

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KGxvi  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:42:40pm

re: #43 Brian J.

“My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

In a bit of fairness, the joke wasn’t part of an actual speech and wasn’t even a hot mic incident.

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nines09  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:43:10pm

They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

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wrenchwench  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:43:41pm

re: #34 Lidane

This whole thread is worth a look. Please read:

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They’re all on Vox, ending with this:

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:43:41pm

Well here is a wingnut who understand exactly what Trump says, and even backs it up from “The Founding Fathers”

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:44:04pm

re: #50 nines09

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They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

Presumably that Milwaukee dipshit that’s always on Fox News. Or Joe Arpaio.

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nines09  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:45:16pm

re: #53 Brian J.

I say dig up John Wayne as El Cid In “Return To Rio Bravo”.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:45:17pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Because, Ivanka, your old man is an out of control psychopath who might get the nuke codes.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:45:36pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

This guy heard Donald loud and clear, too:

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I don’t follow what this one is supposed to mean, do you?

Click to Reveal
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:45:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:45:48pm

re: #36 No Country For Old Haters

What’s the father accused of doing?

Well, since he’s not a white Christian ‘Murrican gunowner, he’s to blame for what his son did, whereas if he WERE a white Christian ‘Murrican gunowner, his son’s act would be “Lone Wolf, probably never know why, too soon to talk about gun violence…” and not the his fault.

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Skip Intro  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:46:00pm

re: #50 nines09

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They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

Ah yeah, that great guy Ben Carson.

Trump: Carson’s Incurably and Pathologically Diseased, Kind of Like a Pedophile

townhall.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:46:01pm

re: #50 nines09

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They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

I assume “Sheriff” means David Clarke, who’s presently up to his eyeballs in shit due to a federal lawsuit involving his covering for one of his sheriffs ramming another car and then charging the driver of said car with DUI to excuse his fuck-up.

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KGxvi  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:46:48pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Well here is a wingnut who understand exactly what Trump says, and even backs it up from “The Founding Fathers”

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Not many of those quotes are actually about any random jackhole having 300 guns on hand… But reading comprehension isn’t always their strong suit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:46:48pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

I don’t follow what this one is supposed to mean, do you?

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Nope, I haven’t got a clue.

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S'latch  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:48:03pm

He doesn’t really need to be coherent or complete sentences, does he? He can just imply all kinds of racism, violence, threats, incitement, and personal attacks and his audience understands, agrees, and loves it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:48:08pm

Has Trump even started speaking or is he already finished speaking? Because all I am getting from this “Live Feed” is an empty podium and horrible music.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:49:14pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Well here is a wingnut who understand exactly what Trump says, and even backs it up from “The Founding Fathers”

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:50:11pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:51:17pm

re: #63 S’latch

He doesn’t really need to be coherent or complete sentences, does he? He can just imply all kinds of racism, violence, threats, incitement, and personal attacks and his audience understands, agrees, and loves it.

Dogs don’t really whistle all that well anyway.

Grunts and growls will do.

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Skip Intro  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:51:28pm

Philippine lawmaker wants to ban Trump from the country

I wish we could ban Trump and his horrible family from ours.

latimes.com

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:51:40pm

re: #53 Brian J.

Presumably that Milwaukee dipshit that’s always on Fox News. Or Joe Arpaio.

Just wanted to say thanks again for supporting Tom Dixon for Senate. I’ll be seeing him Friday morning and will mention that his support is growing even outside SC! (I’ll give him a check myself when I see him—sometimes that gets the ball rolling with others in attendance.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:51:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:52:24pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Has Trump even started speaking or is he already finished speaking? Because all I am getting from this “Live Feed” is an empty podium and horrible music.

He’s finished. But you can still watch it if you want to - he starts ranting about halfway through.

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:53:14pm

re: #69 BeachDem

Just wanted to say thanks again for supporting Tom Dixon for Senate. I’ll be seeing him Friday morning and will mention that his support is growing even outside SC! (I’ll give him a check myself when I see him—sometimes that gets the ball rolling with others in attendance.)

Glad to do my modest bit.

In calmer political waters, it’s primary night in four states. The first one is Vermont, where Democrats Sue Minter and Matt Dunne are the main candidates for governor. Dunne claims to be a Sandbagger, while Minter does not. Dunne’s very slightly ahead in the early going.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:53:28pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

He’s finished. But you can still watch it if you want to - he starts ranting about halfway through.

No thanks. Im’a go watch the Olympics.

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KerFuFFler  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:54:07pm

Would it be wrong of me to say that I’m up in arms over Trump’s outrageous comments?

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:55:01pm

re: #74 KerFuFFler

Would it be wrong of me to say that I’m up in arms over Trump’s outrageous comments?

It was a call to arms.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:55:31pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

He’s finished. But you can still watch it if you want to - he starts ranting about halfway through.

(GoT Season 1 Spoiler)

His tendency to go off-script reminds me of

Click to Reveal

Joffrey when he’s SUPPOSED TO pardon Ned Stark and send him off to join the Night’s Watch. Everything’s going fine, but then his narcissism and sadism take over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:55:38pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

It was a call to arms.

just make sure they are bare arms…it’s summer you know…

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BigPapa  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:55:49pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:56:08pm

It is still a net win for DT…all this haggling over what he said/meant means less talk about how he totally lacks the knowledge, background or experience to be Chief Executive.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:56:08pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

No thanks. Im’a go watch the Olympics.

I, myself, have drying paint that needs watched.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:56:28pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:56:49pm

re: #36 No Country For Old Haters

What’s the father accused of doing?

Nothing but being a mass murderer’s father.

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:57:40pm

re: #34 Lidane

This whole thread is worth a look. Please read:

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It’s been storified

storify.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:57:41pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Gee, Sean, one might almost think you were leading Trump there with that question…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:58:09pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Jesus, Hannity - how can you talk so much with Trump’s dick in your mouth?

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Skip Intro  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:58:19pm

California Gun Group Very Upset It Can’t Tell You Exactly Where State Legislators Live, So You Can Visit.

wonkette.com

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:59:36pm
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bratwurst  Aug 9, 2016 • 4:59:46pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

I don’t follow what this one is supposed to mean, do you?

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Perhaps this illustration will shed some light on that man’s thought process?

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:00:06pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:00:23pm

I’m back. Has Hillary denounced Satan yet??

I mean, look at this shit:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:00:49pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:01:06pm

re: #87 Kragar

Remember those halcyon days when things like this could end a Presidential campaign?www.

they still can, if the candidate is a Democrat

Somehow, the GOP has established a different set of standards. I think they involve “nothing short of ripping a baby’s arm off and using it to bludgeon a nun to death”…

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:01:24pm

re: #87 Kragar

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Again, different set of standards for both parties. A Democrat who acts like a loon is deemed unfit for office, while a Republican who does is “telling it like it is.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:01:33pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:01:51pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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True, ma’am, but the media will ask if you believe them or your lying ears.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:02:00pm

re: #90 Jenner7

I’m back. Has Hillary denounced Satan yet??

I mean, look at this shit:

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“Both Sides” rides again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:02:33pm

re: #90 Jenner7

I’m back. Has Hillary denounced Satan yet??

I mean, look at this shit:

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She can’t denounce Satan because according to Trump she IS Satan…

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:02:49pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

She can’t denounce Satan because according to Trump she IS Satan…

Took the words right out of my mouth, you did.

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:03:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:04:53pm

re: #100 Kragar

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A mood point - one that depends entirely on how you’re feeling at the time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:05:21pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:06:15pm

Turned it over to the Fixed Newz channel. “Hillary wants to take away our guns…” CLICK.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:06:23pm

re: #90 Jenner7

Hope you had shopping success.

I’m watching Chopped.

I’m with ya, can’t take anything anymore.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:06:41pm

Here’s a question for the media: If Trump can’t be held to the same expectations that we hold other politicians, how can we expect to hold him to the same as other presidents? Just how low a bar are you prepared for set for yourselves for the next 4 years? “Yeah, Trump started WWIII, but we hit the other guy worse than he hit us”?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:07:04pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:07:09pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not so much word salad as word frappe.

And the polls have closed in Wisconsin, so we’ll soon know if the Republicans of Wisconsin-1 want Speaker Ryan re-elected as their Congressional invertebrate for the next two years.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:08:04pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:09:03pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well sure, we believe she came here legally. We just believe, based on her own statements, that she was here working on a tourist visa, which is against the law.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:09:25pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Here’s a question for the media: If Trump can’t be held to the same expectations that we hold other politicians, how can we expect to hold him to the same as other presidents? Just how low a bar are you prepared for set for yourselves for the next 4 years? “Yeah, Trump started WWIII, but we hit the other guy worse than he hit us”?

That C-Span comment from a trump supporter I posted a day or so ago…

paraphrased from memory:

I think we might have nuclear war with Trump. I hope we win.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:09:39pm

re: #108 No Country For Old Haters

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Guilt by association.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:10:17pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

He’s getting destroyed on Twitter for that absurd Tweet.

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KerFuFFler  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:10:29pm

Trump needs, at the very LEAST, publicly apologize to the secret service. His reckless joke makes their jobs more dangerous. However “innocently” he intended his comment, internet comments have already made it clear that lots of loons are taking this as a call to arms.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:10:43pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

I’m broke, so yeah, successful. lol

I’m going to watch the games tonight.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:10:55pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

Guilt by association.

If we’re getting into guilt by association, as a white male, I’m screwed.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:11:06pm

The second amendment is a political movement?

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:11:08pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Many people are saying, the reason they can’t do the press conference just yet is they have to wait for the bruises to fade.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:11:38pm

re: #113 KerFuFFler

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Thanos  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:12:43pm

re: #50 nines09

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They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

Arpaio, Trump mentions him frequently.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:15:39pm

re: #116 Frankie Five Angels

The second amendment is a political movement?

If by “political” you mean “stochastic terrorism.”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:16:39pm

sigh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:17:55pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

sigh

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But, you know, no new regulations.

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:18:18pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:18:41pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

sigh

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And who was President in 2006, Donny?

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:19:53pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:20:21pm

re: #124 Brian J.

And who was President in 2006, Donny?

Well, let’s see. Clinton’s third term ended in 2005, so that had to be Obama’s first term.

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:21:20pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:21:31pm

Non-political rant below.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:22:14pm

It’s just a snafu, folks…

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:22:36pm

re: #118 Jenner7

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Would you give Hillary a break if the parts were reversed, Don? No? Then STFU.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:23:14pm
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451_Montag  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:23:17pm

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they still can, if the candidate is a Democrat

Somehow, the GOP has established a different set of standards. I think they involve “nothing short of ripping a baby’s arm off and using it to bludgeon a nun to death”…

But you haven’t specified the race of the baby AND the nun

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:24:31pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:25:11pm

re: #132 451_Montag

But you haven’t specified the race of the baby AND the nun

The nun is a papist false Christian, so it’s permissible.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:26:51pm

re: #88 bratwurst

Perhaps this illustration will shed some light on that man’s thought process?

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LOL

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KerFuFFler  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:27:35pm

Slow on the draw again here is another comment of mine from a dead thread:

re: #387 A wild WITHAK appeared!

So, one spokesmoron said it was about “unifying” voters in opposition to HRC’s probable erosion of 2A rights.

Katie Bullets says it’s not something Trump wants to happen, just something that could happen.

Now taking bets on how many other contradictory positions the Trump camp will take on this shitshow. Bonus points if you manage to guess what those positions might be.

A veritable Kama Sutra of political persiflage!

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gwangung  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:27:44pm

re: #113 KerFuFFler

Trump needs, at the very LEAST, publicly apologize to the secret service. His reckless joke makes their jobs more dangerous. However “innocently” he intended his comment, internet comments have already made it clear that lots of loons are taking this as a call to arms.

Jo Cox. #Brexit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:28:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:28:31pm
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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:28:55pm

Trump: Kill Hillary

Elizabeth Warren: Trump’s a coward

Media: C’mon guys, stop the name calling. Not cool.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:29:21pm

re: #137 gwangung

tks, I just tweeted that reminder.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:29:57pm
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Split Ticket  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:30:57pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

The uncouth one actually said that. OMG. He really is mesuga.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:31:07pm

re: #50 nines09

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They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

I would assume he is referring to Arpaio.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:31:29pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson
We’d have real problems if it went plaid. /

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:32:07pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh, must I? I apologize to the former governor of Massachusetts for the comparison.

Michael Dukakis The Tank Ad 1988 ElectionWallDotOrg

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:33:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:34:06pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He was at Fort Bliss today.

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:34:18pm

By the way, in Vermont, the Sanders candidate for governor seems to be headed for defeat. Sue Minter leads Matt Dunne 50% to 36% with a quarter of precincts in.

Nothing from Ryan-Nehlen in Wisconsin yet.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:34:37pm

Some guy just walked past my office window saying, “I always thought of her naked when I had to get rid of a boner.”

Overshare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:35:09pm

re: #149 Brian J.

By the way, in Vermont, the Sanders candidate for governor seems to be headed for defeat. Sue Minter leads Matt Dunne 50% to 36% with a quarter of precincts in.

Nothing from Ryan-Nehlen in Wisconsin yet.

Just read that Bernie and Jane bought a $600,000 summer beach house.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:35:32pm

re: #124 Brian J.

And who was President in 2006, Donny?

Obama, of course.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:35:38pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

I don’t follow what this one is supposed to mean, do you?

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I assume it means American muslim terrorists are killing about 318k times as many people as radical christian terrorists per capita.

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scottslemmons  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:37:05pm

Has Trump considered what’s going to happen if one of his dunces takes a shot at Clinton now?

Most of his endorsements will dry up overnight. The Secret Service and the FBI are going to start paying a lot closer attention to his goons. Anyone with any sort of connection to the shooter(s) will spend a few years in the federal pen. All of his business interests will desert him. The NRA will get RICO’d into a deep and unmarked grave. Twitter (horror of horrors) will tac-nuke his followers off their service. Police attention for white supremacists will get painfully hot. And Republicans will curse Trump’s name forever as the man who gave the presidency, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court to the Democrats, who were then inspired to enact every possible liberal reform as a tribute to Clinton.

If Trump weren’t a moron, he’d know this. If Reince and the rest of the GOP gang weren’t such cowards, they’d already be giving him the business with whole duffel bags full of crowbars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:37:35pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:39:53pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Has Trump even started speaking or is he already finished speaking? Because all I am getting from this “Live Feed” is an empty podium and horrible music.

So, he is up there then.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:40:43pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nichols is such a hypocritical asshole. This is the same guy who wrote a pile of garbage blaming the rise of Trump on liberals, because they were so mean to conservatives and conservatives had no choice but to lash out and nominate an outright fascist for the presidency. Fuck him. Not to put too fine a point on it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:42:20pm
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Skandal  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:43:37pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:43:55pm

oh, how i would love to live in a country without history, without death defying drama, without celebrity
where the president was just somebody who made decisions and proposed policies, not the epicenter of a maelstron of psychodramas,
where it was possible to not have the evil monsters of ten million sick souls projected onto your forehead,
where madness stayed at home and did not stalk the streets looking for bylines and airtime,
oh, give me the ordinaryness of boredom, where we could just leave it to beaver after all and live for hundreds of years the same way, like they used too,
a blank page of life to draw ourselves on, and not walk in the glittery shadows of a million ephemeral faces

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:44:21pm

Not sure if others have brought this up, but if you read the Trump statement or listen to it, it’s talking about Clinton appointing judges. This assumes that she’s already president. The need to activate voters at that point is past. Yet that’s the time when Trump thinks a 2d Amendment solution is called for?

And I also think that the statement could be parsed as not only a threat against Clinton, but against future judges/appointees who Trump insists will take away their 2A rights.

Meanwhile, the NRA has come out with guns blazing in support of Trump.

Because of course they did.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:45:01pm

Wow, so many people are buying into this bullshit, it’s kind of disgusting.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:45:08pm

re: #131 Jenner7

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Ah, the media, always ready to help out a Republican by suggesting both sides need to “come together” when Republicans are being as divisive as humanly possible.

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ObserverArt  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:46:02pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Well, it is clear…should Hannity ever lose his gig at FOX News, he is probably already got a job with Trump. He will be the pillow fluffer with benefits.

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ObserverArt  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:46:57pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus, Hannity - how can you talk so much with Trump’s dick in your mouth?

Experience. Lots of experience.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:47:02pm

GOP: “IT’S US OR THEM!”

DNC: “It’s wrong of Republicans to try to split us apart.”

Media: “Both sides are to blame for dividing this country.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:47:21pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz learned how to operate a tank today. I feel unsafe.

The Army or Marines would have been happy to teach him the right way many years ago, but like many bellicose hawks, he had other concerns.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:47:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:47:51pm
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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:48:02pm

re: #166 ObserverArt

It’s the Argle Gargle. /

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:49:24pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Wow, so many people are buying into this bullshit, it’s kind of disgusting.

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With that logic Wayne and Kathy Harris and Tom and Sue Klebold are “dangerous kooks.”

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:49:57pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was at Fort Bliss today.

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Palate cleanser to get the image of Ted Cruz out of my head:

May he turned 21 on the base at Fort Bliss
“Just a day” he said down to the flask in his fist,
“Ain’t been sober, since maybe October of last year.”
Here in town you can tell he’s been down for a while,
But, my God, it’s so beautiful when the boy smiles,
Wanna hold him. Maybe I’ll just sing about it.

anna nalick - breathe (acoustic)

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:50:19pm

re: #169 darthstar

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The fact that they came out and said this is telling.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:50:26pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just read that Bernie and Jane bought a $600,000 summer beach house.

Financed $27 at a time…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:52:00pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:53:36pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Leftover dank memes are even less effective at melting steel beams than fresh ones.

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TK-421  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:54:39pm

Democrats must cross every t and dot every i, or there’s hell to pay.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:55:40pm

Okay…here’s my little electoral fantasy I had driving home today.
1. Paul Ryan loses his primary. Ha! Fuck you loser coward for not standing up to Trump. Find another way to feed your brood.
2. Paul Ryan gets pissed about losing free airfare & shit and rescinds his endorsement of Trump.
3. Paul Ryan realizes Boehner was right, his party is full of people fucked in the head.
4. Paul Ryan announces that he’s tired of supporting idiocy and openly reaches out to Nancy Pelosi to make his last five months meaningful.
5. Paul Ryan brings Democratic bills to the floor for clean votes - jobs bills, immigration bills, ALL THE BILLS.
6. Paul Ryan gains a modicum of respect from me, and is welcome to go fuck himself because he’s still a loser coward who couldn’t stand up to Trump when it counted.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:56:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:56:11pm

I need to get Sergey to tell me how to say “would you please go and fuck yourself at your earliest convenience” in Russian.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:56:29pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

I need to get Sergey to tell me how to say “would you please go and fuck yourself at your earliest convenience” in Russian.

I’m sure it’s a phrase he’s used regularly.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:56:39pm

re: #174 thedopefishlives

The fact that they came out and said this is telling.

It says, “STOP FUCKING TWEETING US ABOUT TRUMP ALREADY!!!11ty!”

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:56:48pm

re: #154 scottslemmons

Has Trump considered what’s going to happen if one of his dunces takes a shot at Clinton now?

Most of his endorsements will dry up overnight. The Secret Service and the FBI are going to start paying a lot closer attention to his goons. Anyone with any sort of connection to the shooter(s) will spend a few years in the federal pen. All of his business interests will desert him. The NRA will get RICO’d into a deep and unmarked grave. Twitter (horror of horrors) will tac-nuke his followers off their service. Police attention for white supremacists will painfully hot. And Republicans will curse Trump’s name forever as the man who gave the presidency, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court to the Democrats, who were then inspired to enact every possible liberal reform as a tribute to Clinton.

If Trump weren’t a moron, he’d know this. If Reince and the rest of the GOP gang weren’t such cowards, they’d already be giving him the business with whole duffel bags full of crowbars.

Unfortunately, I don’t think any of this is true.

If Hillary were to be clearly, blatantly assassinated tomorrow, it would make a lot of news, but I very much doubt that it would precipitate any sort of significant electoral change or backlash.

I say this because, most likely, it would be a white male with a gun who did it. Most likely it would be a somewhat disturbed and isolated individual radicalised through FOX and right wing media. And, as we have seen, when isolated, radicalised white males with guns kill someone, there is no backlash at all. Nothing changes. No domino effect takes place in any policy at all, much less gun policy. That is now normal in American society. That’s how we live.

Sure, you might think that assassinating a presidential candidate after her opponent subtly called for it is unprecedented, and it is. But many things that once might have been thought unthinkable are now normalised. US media has given everything the flavour of entertainment, to the point that things that were once unthinkable now barely impact public consciousness, because it doesn’t seem real. It’s entertainment. A Presidential candidate alluding to his penis size on television was just entertainment. The same man calling for outside dictatorships to meddle in US elections was the same, just entertainment. Twenty first-graders getting gunned down in their school was a shocking plot twist, but it had no direct impact on most people’s lives, so it means as much to them as a similar horrible thing happening in Game of Thrones. And if there was no backlash to twenty first-graders getting murdered, I guarantee you there will be no backlash to the murder of someone who the American media has trained everyone to hate for three decades. None whatsoever.

The assassin would go to prison, the media would talk about it for a few weeks, and intersperse it liberally with questions about how this impacts the Trump campaign. Republican politicians would make all the appropriate public noises and would redouble their plans to retain political power, sensing the opportunity. There would be a sudden upsurge of media interest in Tim Kaine as they try to find out if he would be interesting enough to make good headlines. Probably he wouldn’t, and Trump would go back to the top of the news. And that’s it. He might win, or he might not, but nothing else would change. The NRA would continue to dominate the political landscape. Nobody who might have subtly encouraged such a thing will face any consequences, because nobody ever does for inciting radicalised, isolated white males to shoot people.

The American people are too desensitised, the American media too irresponsible, guns are too sacred, and Hillary Clinton is too hated.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:57:02pm

He really is going to throw her to the wolves.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:57:15pm

re: #182 thedopefishlives

Probably saved as a keyboard shortcut.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:57:22pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

I need to get Sergey to tell me how to say “would you please go and fuck yourself at your earliest convenience” in Russian.

“would you please go fuck yourself at your earliest convenience in Russian” works for me.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:58:28pm

re: #50 nines09

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They gonna dig up John Wayne or put a badge on Clint Eastwood?

Arpiao.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:58:33pm

But it’s really irrelevant what Trump actually meant, because enough people will hear Trump’s comments and think he’s calling for people to take up arms against Clinton, her judges or both. Though most of the people hearing that call may claim he was joking, given what we know about people taking up arms in this country, there will undoubtedly be some people who think he was serious and consider the possibility.

In other words, what Trump just did is engage in so-called stochastic terrorism. This is an obscure and non-legal term that has been occasionally discussed in the academic world for the past decade and a half, and it applies with precision here. Stochastic terrorism, as described by a blogger who summarized the concept several years back, means using language and other forms of communication “to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:59:06pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

I need to get Sergey to tell me how to say “would you please go and fuck yourself at your earliest convenience” in Russian.

I don’t trust Google Translate to give me the most insultingly personal way to say this.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:59:07pm

.re: #184 Renaissance_Man

I’m not only afraid for Hillary, Bill and Tim. I’m also worried about Judge Garland. Trump has let the nuts into the GOP and they’re going to leave a lot of shells on the floor…

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:59:18pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 5:59:21pm

re: #184 Renaissance_Man

:(((

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:00:24pm

re: #186 lawhawk

Probably saved as a keyboard shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-F5…somes standard with Windows.

Actually, I’m a big fan of Windows shortcuts on my work Windows box. Ctrl-Alt-J launches JMeter - Ctrl-Alt-S brings up the screenshot tool, etc. A few computers ago I had shortcut keys to put the box to sleep, launch email, and a bunch of other shit…I hate using a mouse though I’m getting lazy in my old age and starting to use it more.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:00:30pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:00:44pm

re: #185 Stanley Sea

He really is going to throw her to the wolves.

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No set time, because he likes to give himself wiggle room to weasel out of it.

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451_Montag  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:01:03pm

re: #192 Jenner7

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You know who else sleeps during the day? Fucking vampires.

Thin, pallid, blood sucker and evil. Yep

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:01:05pm
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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:01:21pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus, Hannity - how can you talk so much with Trump’s dick in your mouth?

It’s not a very big obstruction.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:02:18pm

re: #199 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

It’s not a very big obstruction.

Well, somebody has to replace Roger AIles! 😉

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:02:21pm

Minter shouldn’t have much trouble with Scott unless she’s an awful candidate. Last month, a poll of Vermont showed Trumpy Dumpy with 18 percent support.

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lawhawk  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:02:36pm

re: #192 Jenner7

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:03:49pm

re: #195 Joe Bacon

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To Coulter that is a compliment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:04:02pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:07:32pm

re: #192 Jenner7

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:07:55pm

re: #199 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

It’s not a very big obstruction.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:08:09pm

Chopped appetizer = goat brains.

Goat yelling in the desert

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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:09:44pm

Polls just closed in Wisconsin, AP hasn’t posted any votes yet.

Part of me really wants to see Ryan get Cantored but if that happens, ol Ginger Snapped will have one of his flipouts on his web page as he claims another scalp…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:10:24pm
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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:10:41pm

re: #208 Joe Bacon

Polls just closed in Wisconsin, AP hasn’t posted any votes yet.

Part of me really wants to see Ryan get Cantored but if that happens, ol Ginger Snapped will have one of his flipouts on his web page as he claims another scalp…

Yeah, but it’s worth it. The Rage Furby is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Plus, I really enjoy seeing him going off the deep end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:13:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:14:55pm

Goat brain & goat cheese.

Oh my dog.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:15:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:15:49pm
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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:16:19pm
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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:17:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:17:46pm

I still sometimes get emails from far right loons asking me to promote their books or videos, because they Googled “top right wing blogs” or something similar.

It’s like having an ex-girlfriend who won’t stop calling.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:17:50pm

Note: I didn’t use the word “hate” - Trying to be a better person.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:18:57pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

I still sometimes get emails from far right loons asking me to promote their books or videos, because they Googled “top right wing blogs” or something similar.

It’s like having an ex-girlfriend who won’t stop calling.

CHAAAAAARLES! I HATE YOU FOREVER! PLEEEEEEEASE TAKE ME BACK!!!!

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:19:40pm

re: #212 Stanley Sea

Goat brain & goat cheese.

Oh my dog.

I need a rule. A rule that says we don’t point out how cute my next meal is.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:20:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:20:19pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:20:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:21:00pm

Just watched a YouTube video of Penn Jillette talking about Donald Trump, and man, has this guy ever gone off the rails.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:21:09pm

re: #221 Jenner7

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He’s inciting.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:22:07pm
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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:23:04pm

re: #221 Jenner7

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Whack-A-Mole  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:23:21pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:24:03pm

I sort of knew I shouldn’t have watched it. I should probably listen to that little voice warning me away from this kind of stuff. I used to respect Penn and Teller for the “Bullshit” show. Now he’s spreading the same kind of bullshit he used to debunk.

Sad!

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:25:08pm

Twitter says that last tweet was by his staff, not him.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:25:41pm

re: #230 Jenner7

Twitter says that last tweet was by his staff, not him.

God, even my penis isn’t that well trained.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:26:03pm

trump’s funders are running. Except for that coal dude.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:26:55pm

re: #226 teleskiguy

2nd Amendment gun fuckers think that their rifles, shotguns and pistols are for “fighting a tyrannical gov’t.” Cute.

That’s the British Army

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:27:31pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:27:57pm

re: #233 FormerDirtDart

That’s the British Army

All I did was Google “tank column” and that picture suited my fancy. My bad!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:29:09pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:29:37pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

I need to get Sergey to tell me how to say “would you please go and fuck yourself at your earliest convenience” in Russian.

Не могли бы вы пойти и трахнуть себя в ближайшее удобное

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:29:46pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:30:19pm

Well, looks like Paul Ryan ain’t gettin’ Cantor’ed.

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:32:53pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

I sort of knew I shouldn’t have watched it. I should probably listen to that little voice warning me away from this kind of stuff. I used to respect Penn and Teller for the “Bullshit” show. Now he’s spreading the same kind of bullshit he used to debunk.

Sad!

Yes that’s sad. What’ else? For me anyway is how this shit has fragmented our families, our work relationships and our friendships. In middle November forward we are going to have to somehow repair those connections among us. Who wants to be estranged from a father or mother over Trump? Some of these people brought great value to our lives in the past. And would moving ahead. I will never forgive Donald trump for the divisiveness he brought. GOP outsider whoo fucking ray. Look what that has wrought.

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b.d.  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:33:00pm

Sarah Palin & Ann Coulter sure did make a difference in the Ryan primary.

//

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:33:53pm

re: #241 b.d.

Sarah Palin & Ann Coulter sure did make a difference in the Ryan primary.

//

They sure did; Nehlen’s been even less impressive than his weakest polls. He’s just cleared 10 percent in the latest update.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:34:21pm

re: #233 FormerDirtDart

That’s the British Army

Hey, it worked last time! We all know how untrained but sufficiently angry American farmers took up their muskets and sent George’s boys packing. What? Washington’s Continentals with their fancy uniforms and Prussian drill sergeants? Just for show, and don’t even mention the French, they were just here to sample the cheese and collect some beaver pelts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:34:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:35:23pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:35:27pm
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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:35:37pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

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28% of precincts in now. AP calls it for Ryan, but Nehlen did just jump to a whopping 15 percent.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:35:50pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus, Hannity - how can you talk so much with Trump’s dick in your mouth?

It’s small. Not much of a mouthfull.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:35:53pm

re: #185 Stanley Sea

He really is going to throw her to the wolves.

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Why? Who cares about her immigration status? It’s not germane to the Election. He must just want to humiliate her.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:36:10pm

re: #240 Great White Snark

I live in a deep red county in Texas, and not one of my Republican friends here know that I’m a center-left liberal. Not one. It’s almost like living in a closet.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:36:17pm

re: #221 Jenner7

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Funny how he loved all the media attention when he thought he was the one in control.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:36:32pm

re: #247 Brian J.

28% of precincts in now. AP calls it for Ryan, but Nehlen did just jump to a whopping 15 percent.

Criswell predicts that Ginger Snapped is seriously fondling the grape right now!

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:37:09pm

re: #246 teleskiguy

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I’d like vinaigrette with my word salad, please.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:37:50pm

re: #221 Jenner7

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Stop making threats of violence. That is all.

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:38:07pm
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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:38:18pm

“Matchmaker, matchmaker make me a match, find me a find, catch me a catch…”

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:39:50pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

I still sometimes get emails from far right loons asking me to promote their books or videos, because they Googled “top right wing blogs” or something similar.

It’s like having an ex-girlfriehttps://Youtube Video who won’t stop calling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:40:29pm

re: #256 Jenner7

Gabe better sleep with one eye open tonight…

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stpaulbear  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:41:16pm

re: #224 Charles Johnson

Just watched a YouTube video of Penn Jillette talking about Donald Trump, and man, has this guy ever gone off the rails.

He’s been off the rails for a long time. This YouTube is from the late 80’s. Bongos Bass and Bob is Penn Jillette plus a couple of guys I know from Minneapolis who were working as his stage techs for a show Penn and Teller were doing off Broadway. There’s a whole album of this stuff. The guys from Mpls actually wrote some pretty funny songs but Jillette just kind of overheated the whole thing.

Bongos, Bass & Bob - 16 Gun In My Hand And I’m Waiting For My Woman

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:41:55pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

Well, looks like Paul Ryan ain’t gettin’ Cantor’ed.

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I’m fine with that. Nehlen is a nut job. Molon Labe huge tat.

Really?

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Brian J.  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:42:51pm

re: #260 Stanley Sea

I’m fine with that. Nehlen is a nut job. Molon Labe huge tat.

Really?

Is it our host who says to “Look for the Moron Label”? It’s 84-16 now with 47% in.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:43:17pm

re: #241 b.d.

Sarah Palin & Ann Coulter sure did make a difference in the Ryan primary.

//

New kiss of death = trump

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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:43:22pm

re: #240 Great White Snark

Yes that’s sad. What’ else? For me anyway is how this shit has fragmented our families, our work relationships and our friendships. In middle November forward we are going to have to somehow repair those connections among us. Who wants to be estranged from a father or mother over Trump? Some of these people brought great value to our lives in the past. And would moving ahead. I will never forgive Donald trump for the divisiveness he brought. GOP outsider whoo fucking ray. Look what that has wrought.

A friend and I had this conversation the other day.

We both have friends - both separately and mutual friends, some we’ve known for decades - who are totally on board the Trump Train. And you just cannot talk to them any more. They don’t want to hear anything but how great Trump is. And even if you try being a little tactful, they go from zero to nuclear rage in no time flat.

They don’t want to discuss. They want a fucking fight. And once they start rolling, there’s no stopping them. They will stomp years-old friendships to defend their emperor god.

The saddest thing about this election is that I’ll never be able to look at quite a few friends the same way as I did before Trump came down that escalator.

I swear, if I ever get within spitting distance of Trump, I will not miss the opportunity to empty half a smoker’s lung on that prick’s expensive suit.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:43:58pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gabe better sleep with one eye open tonight…

Gripping his pillow tight?

//

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:44:38pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

Gripping his pillow tight?

//

EXIT LIGHT, ENTER NIGHT, TAKE MY HAND! OFF TO NEVER NEVER LAND!!!

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:44:46pm

re: #113 KerFuFFler

Trump needs, at the very LEAST, publicly apologize to the secret service. His reckless joke makes their jobs more dangerous. However “innocently” he intended his comment, internet comments have already made it clear that lots of loons are taking this as a call to arms.

I have to wonder what the USSS higher ups think. I mean it’s obvious the individual SS agents buy into trump after watching how they handle press. But the manages, directors? They have to be having conniptions.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:45:13pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

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[Ryan sitting with Reince sharing a bottle of scotch] “I had this dream, you know? Ever since I read Atlas Shrugged in high school. And we were so close; we showed we could get an Obamacare repeal bill to the President’s desk! All we needed was a man in the Oval Office willing to sign the bills, and almost any of them would’ve done: Jeb, Marco, John, even Ted if that’s what the base wanted. The media would’ve done the heavy lifting for us, making Hillary so hated she couldn’t even get elected dogcatcher. Then that orange monstrosity came down that escalator!” [Breaks down sobbing.]

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:45:52pm

First cassette tape I ever bought, Metallica’s Black Album. First CD I ever bought, Eric Clapton’s “Journeyman.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:46:44pm
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A Cranky One  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:46:47pm

re: #256 Jenner7

“Matchmaker, matchmaker make me a match, find me a find, catch me a catch…”

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Sometimes when the cat needs a giggle it pisses in his shoe.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:48:13pm

There’s stupid, and then there’s Sean Hannity.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:48:28pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is still a net win for DT…all this haggling over what he said/meant means less talk about how he totally lacks the knowledge, background or experience to be Chief Executive.

You keep bringing up this point, and I have to admit I don’t understand why. His lack of knowledge, background, or experience are a *feature* for his true supporters, and pointing this out will only harden their loyalty to him.

As for those who are more on the fence, pointing out the absurd shit he says and what it says about his mindset highlights the aforementioned lack of credentials. The people who are going to vote for him because he’s an R (not because they are also racist, misogynistic, homophobic, ethnocentric assholes) don’t *care* about his policy positions. They assume that because he’s an R, his positions line up with theirs, ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

There is nothing in defeating Donald Trump that can be found on debating him on the ‘issues’. You have to make him toxic to the semi-rational voter. I would think that after the primaries/convention this is pretty obvious.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:48:48pm
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A Mom Anon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:48:50pm

re: #268 teleskiguy

My first date with The Husband was to see Metallica, 1991.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:49:30pm

re: #249 Patricia Kayden

Why? Who cares about her immigration status? It’s not germane to the Election. He must just want to humiliate her.

Well, I don’t expect to see her with papers in hand. Well, maybe she’ll be holding a letter from the Trump Models atty. But there are discrepancies on her description of her “journey” v. the actual visa regulations. You go back to your country to get stamped = tourist/no work.

Bottom line, he’s throwing her to the wolves by putting her in front of press.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:49:34pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:49:54pm

re: #274 A Mom Anon

My first date with The Husband was to see Metallica, 1991.

Total keeper.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:52:36pm

re: #226 teleskiguy

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I get the point, but those are British Challenger 2 tanks with Brit owned Apache Longbow helicopters. Not American tanks.

In truth, determined people with small arms can make life hell for an occupying army. We found that out in several places. The insurgents usually have initiative and can operate in all kinds of places where you would never use an open country MBT.

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Snarknado!  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:53:09pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

I don’t trust Google Translate to give me the most insultingly personal way to say this.

[ public service announcement ]
NEVER trust Google translate with anything even slightly idiomatic. (All obscenity is idiomatic.) It’s pretty lousy even with vanilla translation.
[ /public service announcement ]

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:53:42pm

Tweet o’ mine hidden because it’s vulgar.

Click to Reveal
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A Mom Anon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:53:55pm

re: #277 Frankie Five Angels

We just passed our 23rd anniversary. Been together for 25. The Husband will be 50 in a couple months. So, I guess I will keep him around a bit longer, lol.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:53:57pm
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Mattand  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:54:09pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

I sort of knew I shouldn’t have watched it. I should probably listen to that little voice warning me away from this kind of stuff. I used to respect Penn and Teller for the “Bullshit” show. Now he’s spreading the same kind of bullshit he used to debunk.

Sad!

Actually, if you go back and watch Bullshit and apply the same skepticism that P&T supposedly promote, it’s stunning how many holes jump out in their narratives. The second-hand smoke segment is particularly cringe-worthy.

It’s also helpful when listening to Penn speak, keep in mind he identifies as anarcho-capitalist. Basically, imagine a more irritating strain of libertarianism that makes Gary Johnson look sane.

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:54:18pm

19 people shot in Chicago today. Mass shooting? No because not one incident, but in fact a bunch of separate places and moments when the urge to shoot overcame all sense and sensibility. Is that a coincidence? Yes. Is that horrible coincidence instructive anyway? Oh HELL YES it is.

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Franklin  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:54:21pm
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danarchy  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:55:27pm

re: #224 Charles Johnson

Just watched a YouTube video of Penn Jillette talking about Donald Trump, and man, has this guy ever gone off the rails.

Which one? I thought Penn was very Anti-Trump, Gary Johnson supporter. As far as I know he has always been a libertarian.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:55:39pm

CREEP-O-RAMA!

‘We ended up kissing and kissing led to other things’: Mother, 36, and son, 19, who fell in love when they met last year after she gave him up for adoption as a baby, say they’ll go to JAIL to defend their relationship

Monica Mares, 36, and her son Caleb Peterson, 19, of Clovis, New Mexico, face up to 18 months in prison if found guilty of incest
The couple said that they are willing to risk everything to be together

They were reunited for the first time last year after reconnecting over Facebook

Okay, this is disgusting and perverted stuff to me, but serious jail time for a relationship between consenting adults seems like something out of the dark ages. That is, I don’t presume that causing me disgust is, in and of itself, a cause to imprison people. Otherwise, two thirds of the population of Lubbock would be in Gitmo.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:56:18pm

re: #280 teleskiguy

Tweet o’ mine hidden because it’s vulgar.

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Same.

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Mattand  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:56:34pm

re: #286 danarchy

Which one? I thought Penn was very Anti-Trump, Gary Johnson supporter. As far as I know he has always been a libertarian.

When it comes to politics, Penn is closer to Heath Ledger’s Joker: gleefully watch it all burn.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:56:46pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel

Well, it’s more than just the creep factor. It’s bad from a genetics standpoint, so there’s legitimate reason for that sort of naughtiness to be outlawed.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:57:50pm

“Glenn Beck must reveal who told him a Saudi Arabian student was the “money man” behind the Boston Marathon bombing, a judge ruled Tuesday.

The right-wing commentator is fighting a defamation lawsuit filed by Abdulrahman Alharbi, who was injured in the April 15, 2013, attack that killed three people. Investigators said brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had plotted and carried out the bombing at the finish line.

Beck called Alharbi an “armed and dangerous” terrorist and referred to him as the “money man” and “the guy who actually paid for it” even after top officials said Alharbi had nothing to do with the bombing, according to the lawsuit. Alharbi was questioned but cleared within days…”

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Scottishdragon  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:58:00pm

Watching Katie Ledecky getting another gold right now :)

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:58:05pm

re: #263 makeitstop

A friend and I had this conversation the other day.

We both have friends - both separately and mutual friends, some we’ve known for decades - who are totally on board the Trump Train. And you just cannot talk to them any more. They don’t want to hear anything but how great Trump is. And even if you try being a little tactful, they go from zero to nuclear rage in no time flat.

They don’t want to discuss. They want a fucking fight. And once they start rolling, there’s no stopping them. They will stomp years-old friendships to defend their emperor god.

The saddest thing about this election is that I’ll never be able to look at quite a few friends the same way as I did before Trump came down that escalator.

I swear, if I ever get within spitting distance of Trump, I will not miss the opportunity to empty half a smoker’s lung on that prick’s expensive suit.

I really think it comes down to weakness. They want a strongman. Really really bad.

sad as fuck to see our people so damn brainwashed.

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No Depression  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:58:18pm

NBC just had Ryan Seacrest on with a crowd of American fans at Copacabana. One fan was flying a flag for the Buffalo Bills. Showing off paraphernalia for a sport that isn’t even in the damn Olympics. AMERICA.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 6:59:54pm

re: #294 No Depression

A Bills flag made in China. ‘MERICA.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:02:07pm

re: #291 FormerDirtDart

Piece of shit that’s never been right about anything.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:02:15pm

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

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And Sister Sarah phoning it in.

It was his huge Molon Labe tat. It WAS.

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William Lewis  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:03:45pm

re: #268 teleskiguy

First cassette tape I ever bought, Metallica’s Black Album. First CD I ever bought, Eric Clapton’s “Journeyman.”

First record? Styx “Pieces of Eight”. So very midwestern… By the time CD’s came around, I think it might have been the same as the first one I ever listened to (back in 1984) the Pretenders first album. I turned that up without the noise of a record and never wanted to go back though it was a number of years till I could afford a disk player.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:05:19pm

re: #291 FormerDirtDart

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:05:43pm

re: #298 William Lewis

First 8-track: “Grease”
First album: KISS “Double Alive”
First Cassette: Rush “Signals”
First CD: Public Enemy “Fear of a Black Planet”

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No Depression  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:06:00pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel

CREEP-O-RAMA!

‘We ended up kissing and kissing led to other things’: Mother, 36, and son, 19, who fell in love when they met last year after she gave him up for adoption as a baby, say they’ll go to JAIL to defend their relationship

Okay, this is disgusting and perverted stuff to me, but serious jail time for a relationship between consenting adults seems like something out of the dark ages. That is, I don’t presume that causing me disgust is, in and of itself, a cause to imprison people. Otherwise, two thirds of the population of Lubbock would be in Gitmo.

This type of story is a lot more common than you might think. It even has a name: Genetic sexual attraction.

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majii  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:06:07pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

“sad as fuck to see our people so damn brainwashed.”

Yes, many on the Right do want a strongman in the WH. They allegedly had one from 2001-2009, but they have now designated him to be persona non grata because of his many f*ckups. I can imagine that if Trump were to be elected and f*cked things up worse than “W,” he’d also become persona non grata.

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Franklin  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:06:59pm

re: #292 Scottishdragon

Watching Katie Ledecky getting another gold right now :)

Do I have to update my tweet in #285?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:07:25pm

re: #298 William Lewis

First record? Styx “Pieces of Eight”. So very midwestern… By the time CD’s came around, I think it might have been the same as the first one I ever listened to (back in 1984) the Pretenders first album. I turned that up without the noise of a record and never wanted to go back though it was a number of years till I could afford a disk player.

I saw The Pretenders when they were the original alive band.

They were so good. Precious, actually.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:09:01pm

re: #300 Frankie Five Angels

First CD: Public Enemy “Fear of a Black Planet”

Fuck yeah!

Anti-n***** Machine (Uncensored Extended)

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:09:35pm

re: #276 teleskiguy

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This twitter feed is fucking hilarious, but do not read if you are even slightly suicidal.

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danarchy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:09:45pm

re: #268 teleskiguy

First cassette tape I ever bought, Metallica’s Black Album. First CD I ever bought, Eric Clapton’s “Journeyman.”

My First cassette was Van Halen’s 1984. First album was Thriller a couple years before.

Don’t for the life of me remember my first cd. Probably either metallica or Iron maiden.

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whitebeach  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:09:47pm

re: #300 Frankie Five Angels

First 8-track: “Grease”
First album: KISS “Double Alive”
First Cassette: Rush “Signals”
First CD: U2 “Rattle & Hum”

I’m beginning to fear I’m the oldest fucker on this site.

First album, Stones, “Flowers,” for fuck’s sake.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:11:12pm

re: #185 Stanley Sea

He really is going to throw her to the wolves.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:11:27pm

re: #291 FormerDirtDart

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Beck will have to drop his pants then, because he probably pulled it out of his ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:11:27pm

re: #309 whitebeach

I’m beginning to fear I’m the oldest fucker on this site.

First album, Stones, “Flowers,” for fuck’s sake.

my first album was Righteous Brothers’ Right Now

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Franklin  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:11:52pm

re: #298 William Lewis

First record? Styx “Pieces of Eight”. So very midwestern… By the time CD’s came around, I think it might have been the same as the first one I ever listened to (back in 1984) the Pretenders first album. I turned that up without the noise of a record and never wanted to go back though it was a number of years till I could afford a disk player.

I’m a youngin. First CD was Beastie Boys License to Ill and Run DMC Raising Hell. Don’t recall first cassette.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:13:17pm

re: #302 majii

“sad as fuck to see our people so damn brainwashed.”

Yes, many on the Right do want a strongman in the WH. They allegedly had one from 2001-2009, but they have now designated him to be persona non grata because of his many f*ckups. I can imagine that if Trump were to be elected and f*cked things up worse than “W,” he’d also become persona non grata.

The problem is that he may fuck it up so bad there will be no personas to be non grata left.

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danarchy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:13:46pm

re: #313 Franklin

I’m a youngin. First CD was Beastie Boys License to Ill and Run DMC Raising Hell. Don’t recall first cassette.

I had License to ill on cassette. Me and my brother wore that thing out we played it so much.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:14:18pm

Not sure if this was my first, but the best one was Rappers Delight, given to me by Ashley, the AA bag boy at Publix where I worked. I’ll never forget.

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William Lewis  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:14:27pm

re: #293 Stanley Sea

The other issue I see is that there are some who really think the deficit is a real problem - that somehow we’re suddenly going to collapse because of it and so on. Meanwhile, that person also thinks that the John Birch Society has some good ideas… < face palm >

So he’s going to vote for Trump because he’s the only slightly good alternative?

I don’t go off on him, not going to change anything anyway, but it’s just part of that 27% insanity that’s out there. The other fellow with him was ok with him voting for Trump (not going to matter much anyway, he says) but if he gets called for polls please tell him he’s voting for Johnson so to help get him above that 15% for the debates. I’m not sure what good that would do - but then both went off on a rant about how “life liberty and the pursuit of property” was really what the declaration of Independance ment and how both major parties were scared of those who “understood” that. Meanwhile I’m just thinking, hey don’t start blatting about “admiralty courts” or flag fringe… sheesh.

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rhuarc  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:14:44pm

First LP: Def Leppard - Hysteria (won it from a radio station contest)
First Cassette: Have no idea. However, for some reason I’m recollecting it was a Run DMC album, but have no concrete memory.
First CD: NWA - Straight Outta Compton & AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:14:46pm

“…And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated.

His right-wing opponents just kept delegitimizing him as a “traitor” and “a Nazi” for wanting to make peace with the Palestinians and give back part of the Land of Israel. Of course, all is fair in politics, right? And they had God on their side, right? They weren’t actually telling anyone to assassinate Rabin. That would be horrible.

But there are always people down the line who don’t hear the caveats. They just hear the big message: The man is illegitimate, the man is a threat to the nation, the man is the equivalent of a Nazi war criminal. Well, you know what we do with people like that, don’t you? We kill them.

And that’s what the Jewish extremist Yigal Amir did to Rabin. Why not? He thought he had permission from a whole segment of Israel’s political class.”

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451_Montag  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:15:04pm

Don Lemon on CNN ripping a Trump surrogate to utter shreds

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Franklin  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:15:52pm

re: #315 danarchy

I had License to ill on cassette. Me and my brother wore that thing out we played it so much.

Now that I think of it, I think I had Licensed to Ill on cassette and Run DMC on CD. My parents to this day call it (c)Rap. Fogeys.

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nines09  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:15:56pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

My first 45 was “Cool Jerk” by the Capitols. Feel better?

The Capitols - Cool Jerk

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:16:30pm

First Cassette: Mr. Mister, Welcome to the Real World
First CD: Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes.

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b.d.  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:16:56pm

Are the wingnuts claiming that the Ryan primary is rigged or are they saving that chestnut for November?

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:17:12pm

re: #322 nines09

My first 45 was “Cool Jerk” by the Capitols. Feel better?

I love that song!

The Capitols - Cool Jerk

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:18:10pm

re: #318 rhuarc

First LP: Def Leppard - Hysteria (won it from a radio station contest)
First Cassette: Have no idea. However, for some reason I’m recollecting it was a Run DMC album, but have no concrete memory.
First CD: NWA - Straight Outta Compton & AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

Fucking A - I love Def Leppard Hysteria.

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JasonA  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:18:33pm

re: #274 A Mom Anon

My first date with The Husband was to see Metallica, 1991.

omg I remember that tour. I went to see them at the Meadowlands.

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danarchy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:18:55pm

re: #320 451_Montag

Don Lemon on CNN ripping a Trump surrogate to utter shreds

I find it hard to believe Don Lemon could rip anyone to shreds. But I guess he might have a chance with a Trump Surrogate.

I swear, when CNN hired him one of the criteria must have been “Can’t be smarter than Wolf, it will make him feel bad”

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Skandal  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:19:01pm

Jaunt’s 319

Well worth reading.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:19:26pm

re: #322 nines09

My first 45 was “Cool Jerk” by the Capitols. Feel better?

my first 45 was Chuck Berry’s Johnny B Goode

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nines09  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:20:16pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

You should have got a load of us 14 and 15 year old crazed skinny white boys shaking on down the street. Moves like Ali, dancing like James Brown.

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sagehen  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:20:48pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel

CREEP-O-RAMA!

‘We ended up kissing and kissing led to other things’: Mother, 36, and son, 19, who fell in love when they met last year after she gave him up for adoption as a baby, say they’ll go to JAIL to defend their relationship

Okay, this is disgusting and perverted stuff to me, but serious jail time for a relationship between consenting adults seems like something out of the dark ages. That is, I don’t presume that causing me disgust is, in and of itself, a cause to imprison people. Otherwise, two thirds of the population of Lubbock would be in Gitmo.

If she gave him up for adoption and had parental rights terminated, and he has adoptive parents who are his parents…

Doesn’t that mean they’re legally not related? No matter what the DNA says?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:20:49pm

re: #319 jaunte

sigh. Thanks for posting.

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whitebeach  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:21:51pm

re: #313 Franklin

I’m a youngin. First CD was Beastie Boys License to Ill and Run DMC Raising Hell. Don’t recall first cassette.

You’re killin’ me here. See, I knew Adam Horvitz when he was a little kid and I was already messing with middle age. He was besties with the son of a friend of mine who played with him in a noise band for a while before leaving just before the Beasties became the Beasties with License. No idea whether my friend’s kid regretted playing the Pete Best role of his generation or not.

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:22:08pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

my first album was Righteous Brothers’ Right Now

It’s hard to even remember, I’m so old. I think it was either the Fleetwoods “Mr. Blue” or maybe an Everly Bros. album—back in those dark ages, I bought more 45s than albums…

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:22:12pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

Todd Rundgren’s version is quite manic.

ToddRundgren CoolJerk

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451_Montag  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:22:44pm

re: #328 danarchy

I find it hard to believe Don Lemon could rip anyone to shreds. But I guess he might have a chance with a Trump Surrogate.

I swear, when CNN hired him one of the criteria must have been “Can’t be smarter than Wolf, it will make him feel bad”

That’s what surprised me. Has a Dan Bogano (? Spelling) on the ropes trading insults, very pleasing. Utterly not willing to let him off the hook.

Refuse to believe anyone is less smart than Wolf. Talk about misnamed!

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:23:37pm

re: #329 Skandal

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Sorry? Not sure where you went there.

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:23:40pm

My first LP was Tom Lehrer’s That Was The Year That Was

YouTube

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rhuarc  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:24:02pm

re: #326 Stanley Sea

I listened to that album on Youtube about a month ago after hearing their newest song. Had to cleanse my palate with good stuff of theirs after hearing their new song.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:24:31pm

I also had a bunch of R&B and doo-wop records.
Drifters, Sam Cooke, the Platters, the Marcels, etc.

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JasonA  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:24:47pm
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whitebeach  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:24:54pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

my first album was Righteous Brothers’ Right Now

Uh, woulda been about my sophomore year in college when “Loving Feeling” hit. Loved the song, still do, but not enough to buy an album.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:24:58pm

re: #340 rhuarc

I listened to that album on Youtube about a month ago after hearing their newest song. Had to cleanse my palate with good stuff of theirs after hearing their new song.

That bad?

Bummer.

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majii  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:25:43pm

re: #324 b.d.

“Are the wingnuts claiming that the Ryan primary is rigged or are they saving that chestnut for November?”

I don’t think Ryan has to worry about being reelected. His major problem is his buddies in the Freedumb Caucus in the House who appear to have the long knives out and ready to stab him in the back when they return from recess. They’re pissed because Tim Huelskamp lost his primary last week and are saying Ryan did nothing to help him. I also read earlier today that the same FC members who forced Boehner out seem to be thinking of doing the same to Ryan.

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rhuarc  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:26:05pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

That bad?

Bummer.

I thought so, but I’m also “old” now and they were messing around on my lawn. Had to yell at them to get off my lawn. Damn kids nowadays.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:26:41pm

re: #343 whitebeach

Uh, woulda been about my sophomore year in college when “Loving Feeling” hit. Loved the song, still do, but not enough to buy an album.

My father was a rock and roll radio disc jockey in the 50s and 60s. He brought a lot of promo records home for me.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:26:43pm

re: #336 teleskiguy

Todd Rundgren’s version is quite manic.

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Everything is more manic in 7/8 time.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:27:30pm

re: #345 majii

“Are the wingnuts claiming that the Ryan primary is rigged or are they saving that chestnut for November?”

I don’t think Ryan has to worry about being reelected. His major problem is his buddies in the Freedumb Caucus in the House who appear to have the long knives out and ready to stab him in the back when they return from recess. They’re pissed because Tim Huelskamp lost his primary last week and are saying Ryan did nothing to help him. I also read earlier today that the same FC members who forced Boehner out seem to be thinking of doing the same to Ryan.

That is because Ryan didn’t do anything to save Huelskamp, and who could blame him?

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Cheechako  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:27:36pm

My first 45: Bill Haley and the Comets “Rock Around the Clock”

That was 1954 - now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:27:36pm

re: #304 Stanley Sea

I saw The Pretenders when they were the original alive band.

They were so good. Precious, actually.

I saw them headline a show when the second album had just come out. They were brilliant. Honeyman-Scott played everything on the records and more. Chambers was so steady. Fardon was gone, playing the rock star that the band once stood steadfastly against.

Chrissie was just angry. Brilliant. But by that point she knew that the band was out of control, and you could tell that she knew she was powerless to stop what was happening. She spent most of the set yelling at Farndon and baiting the crowd.

But they were so good. And inside of two years, half the band was dead.

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:29:27pm

Okay first album purchased. Well two at once. Bad Company Run With The Pack and Sweet Desolation Boulevard. 1974 I think.

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majii  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:29:27pm

re: #335 BeachDem

“It’s hard to even remember, I’m so old. I think it was either the Fleetwoods “Mr. Blue” or maybe an Everly Bros. album—back in those dark ages, I bought more 45s than albums…”

8 track tapes and machines were all the rage when I began college, and Al Green was the man to listen to late nights in the dorm, followed by the Chi-Lites, Temptations, Smoky Robinson, Three Dog Night, Hall and Oates, Carol King, and many, many more great artistes.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:29:47pm

re: #346 rhuarc

I thought so, but I’m also “old” now and they were messing around on my lawn. Had to yell at them to get off my lawn. Damn kids nowadays.

I’m with you & am not even going to try. I love the GOOD memories.

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Franklin  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:31:40pm

re: #334 whitebeach

You’re killin’ me here. See, I knew Adam Horvitz when he was a little kid and I was already messing with middle age. He was besties with the son of a friend of mine who played with him in a noise band for a while before leaving just before the Beasties became the Beasties with License. No idea whether my friend’s kid regretted playing the Pete Best role of his generation or not.

That’s awesome! I went to many many Beastie Boys concerts in my younger years. Just to show how young they were when they started, I am 42 and Adrock is 49. And I’ve been listening to Beastie Boys for what I consider “my whole life”. Paul’s Boutique is the best album ever produced :)

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:31:49pm

My first 8 tracks were Jackson Browne. I was in trouble & restricted to my room as a teen. I listened to him, fell in love & cried all day long.

Beach Dem, you know.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:32:08pm

My first cassette was a Dr. Demento volume. It had Fast Food on it.

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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:33:28pm

re: #353 majii

Somewhere back then I was given some Al di Meola. That was an eye/ear opener.

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:33:59pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

My father was a rock and roll radio disc jockey in the 50s and 60s. He brought a lot of promo records home for me.

My dad did the media buying for the company he worked for, so I got tons of demos as well. Loved looking at what the djs would designate as what they thought would be the hit side vs. the b side.

I was also big on the Drifters, Platters, Sam Cooke, Joe and Eddie—ah memories.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:34:25pm

re: #353 majii

“It’s hard to even remember, I’m so old. I think it was either the Fleetwoods “Mr. Blue” or maybe an Everly Bros. album—back in those dark ages, I bought more 45s than albums…”

8 track tapes and machines were all the rage when I began college, and Al Green was the man to listen to late nights in the dorm, followed by the Chi-Lites, Temptations, Smoky Robinson, Three Dog Night, Hall and Oates, Carol King, and many, many more great artistes.

Three Dog Night was my first live concert. 1969, I think.
1968 I heard Janis sing in an open air theatre in Cincinnati’s Eden Park. She had a regular concert scheduled at Music Hall, but the wiring there couldn’t handle her amplifiers or something, so she just came out to the park and sang without amps. Free and no advance notice. I just happened to be there at the right time.

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Thanos  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:34:32pm

re: #300 Frankie Five Angels

First 8-track: “Grease”
First album: KISS “Double Alive”
First Cassette: Rush “Signals”
First CD: U2 “Rattle & Hum”

First 45: Tighten UP, Archie Bell & the Drells
First 8 Track: The Doors, LA Woman
First album: Steely Dan, Can’t Buy a Thrill
First Cassette: All my cassettes were bought blank, I mixed my own with a Sony TC 153SD
First CD: Big Country, The Crossing
First digital Album: RHCP, Stadium Arcadium

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:35:03pm

re: #358 Great White Snark

Somewhere back then I was given some Al di Meola. That was an eye/ear opener.

I still like to listen to Kiss My Axe.

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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:35:05pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

Everything is more manic in 7/8 time.

‘AWATS’ is a great album. But being a huge fan of Nazz and then ‘Runt’ and ‘The Ballad of Todd Rundgren,’ I really didn’t know what to think the first time I listened to it.

Suffice it to say, it grew on me.

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:36:39pm

ICYMI, Lumpy is a Dim Hoft fan:

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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:37:29pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

My first 8 tracks were Jackson Browne. I was in trouble & restricted to my room as a teen. I listened to him, fell in love & cried all day long.

Beach Dem, you know.

Oh yeah—I was a bit (quite a bit) older, but Jackson and Dan Fogelberg were my go to guys when I needed a good cry from the angst of unrequited love.

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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:37:40pm

re: #355 Franklin

Paul’s Boutique is the best album ever produced :)

And the last major-label release before lawyers really started cracking down on the use of samples.

You couldn’t make a ‘Paul’s Boutique’ nowadays. It would cost a fortune to clear all those samples.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:37:43pm
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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:37:58pm

re: #256 Jenner7

“Matchmaker, matchmaker make me a match, find me a find, catch me a catch…”

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FIFY :-)

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stpaulbear  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:38:10pm

re: #309 whitebeach

I’m beginning to fear I’m the oldest fucker on this site.

First album, Stones, “Flowers,” for fuck’s sake.

I think the first album I bought myself was ‘Introducing Herman’s Hermits’. I was 10 years old and already had Beatles 65 and the Hard Day’s Night albums that I’d gotten as gifts.

The first stereo album I bought was ‘Stop Stop Stop’ by The Hollies, which I bought as a birthday present for my sister. I still like that album. I was mad because the stereo version cost 40 cents more than the mono, but they were out of mono pressings.

My sisters and I were more into 45s until Sgt. Pepper came out. I remember becoming a record collector the day that my older sister came home with ‘Led Zeppelin 1’, ‘Bayou Country’ by CCR, and ‘Best of Cream’. I was floored.

First CDs I bought were from a used record store that was just starting to stock used CDs. ‘Led Zeppelin 3’ and U2 ‘War’. I was on the way home from buying a CD player.

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EPR-radar  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:39:05pm

re: #319 jaunte

…
And that’s what the Jewish extremist Yigal Amir did to Rabin. Why not? He thought he had permission from a whole segment of Israel’s political class.

FTFY. Let’s not kid ourselves about what’s going on here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:40:37pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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majii  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:40:44pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

“1968 I heard Janis sing”

Oh, why did you have to mention Janis Joplin? I’m still grieving her passing. Sometimes I go to YouTube and pull up some of her songs. I’ve always thought she was one of the best performers of all time!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:41:00pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:41:01pm

My first live concert was Def Leppard during their Hysteria tour. My older sister got sick and couldn’t go. Mom says to dad “Take your son.” I was four or five, don’t remember much other than it was really loud.

Same thing happened two years later. Dad has tickets for Grateful Dead at Mile High Stadium, mom was supposed to go. She got sick and said to dad “Take your son.”

I smelled burning cannabis for the first time that night, up in the cheap seats. Again, I don’t remember much other than it was loud and everybody was standing up. I remember a really long drum solo that I thought was boring as all hell.

Nice thing is I can tell people I’ve seen Grateful Dead when Jerry was still around.

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Franklin  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:42:14pm

re: #372 majii

“1968 I heard Janis sing”

Oh, why did you have to mention Janis Joplin? I’m still grieving her passing. Sometimes I go to YouTube and pull up some of her songs. I’ve always thought she was one of the best performers of all time!

I was born 5 years after she died…and I agree with you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:43:33pm

excellent advice:

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:43:59pm

re: #374 teleskiguy

My first live concert was Def Leppard during their Hysteria tour. My older sister got sick and couldn’t go. Mom says to dad “Take your son.” I was four or five, don’t remember much other than it was really loud.

Same thing happened two years later. Dad has tickets for Grateful Dead at Mile High Stadium, mom was supposed to go. She got sick and said to dad “Take your son.”

I smelled burning cannabis for the first time that night, up in the cheap seats. Again, I don’t remember much other than it was loud and everybody was standing up. I remember a really long drum solo that I thought was boring as all hell.

Nice thing is I can tell people I’ve seen Grateful Dead when Jerry was still around.

OMG. A toddler at Def Leppard.

(my own horn: I did see Jerry in Vegas a yr before he died.)

Your parent’s were cool & carefree, sorry your dad isn’t anymore.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:45:45pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:46:08pm
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bratwurst  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:46:49pm

Ok, the Sean Hannity talk has given me another excuse to post this jem again:

That salacious look on his face…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:47:00pm
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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:47:50pm
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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:48:02pm
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majii  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:48:58pm

re: #381 Charles Johnson

I just don’t see how you do it, Charles. You have a very strong constitution. You must have to put up with the wacky loons who think their opinions matter to you. If they only knew.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:49:31pm
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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:51:29pm

Michael Phelps is a machine. WOW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:51:44pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:52:38pm

re: #386 Lidane

Michael Phelps is a machine. WOW.

HE’S A DOPE HEAD! EVERYTHING HE DOES IS SUSPECT BECAUSE HE SMOKES THE DEVIL’S LETTUCE!

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:53:20pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:55:35pm

re: #233 FormerDirtDart

That’s the British Army

Don’t tell the Irish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:55:53pm
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BeachDem  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:56:16pm

For all of you children who are younger than some of my shoes, here is a taste of Joe and Eddie. Not sure why I liked them so much—wasn’t really (or at all) into gospel music (being a little Jewish suburban girl) but their voices and harmonies were amazing and my friends and I would listen to them for hours on end.

Joe & Eddie - There’s a meetin’ here tonite

Oh, and I’m pretty sure the first concert I ever went to was Ray Charles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:57:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 7:59:04pm
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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:01:47pm

I’m wondering what the next round of polling - after today’s events - is going to look like.

That’s gonna tell me an awful lot about Americans.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:01:56pm

re: #383 Kragar

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He said no such thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:02:33pm
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Belafon  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:03:40pm

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if StoneKettle would go on CNN to face North.

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Targetpractice  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:03:43pm

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Their son was a member of the CIA working at a CIA facility, so they’re suing the State Dept for “wrongful death.” What a fucking joke.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:04:04pm

I saw this meme and decided to make an easy-to-read version for Twitter use, so I just wanted to drop it off for you guys before going to bed. FWIW, Trump spox Katie Bullets’ stupid, lying face is what inspired me to create it.

G’nite, lizards. ;-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:05:39pm

re: #398 Belafon

I wonder if StoneKettle would go on CNN to face North.

In a heartbeat, I am certain.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:05:52pm

re: #309 whitebeach

I’m beginning to fear I’m the oldest fucker on this site.

First album, Stones, “Flowers,” for fuck’s sake.

You’re safe.

First record I purchased was Homer & Jethro’s “How much Is That Hound Dog In The Window.” Circa 1953.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:05:57pm

Late to the party, but…

First cassette: Poison, Look What the Cat Dragged In
First CD: Michael Jackson, Dangerous

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:06:20pm

re: #399 Targetpractice

Their son was a member of the CIA working at a CIA facility, so they’re suing the State Dept for “wrongful death.” What a fucking joke.

and they are suing for defamation, an even bigger joke.

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:09:05pm

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

Defamation how?

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:09:14pm

While the thread’s alive:

First 45: Mike Post, “Rockford Files Theme”
First LP: “Star Wars” (yes, original soundtrack)
First cassette: Donna Summer, “Bad Girls” (RIP, Donna, gone too soon!)
First CD: Star Wars CD box set (the first version, bought almost 20 years after the LP)

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:12:04pm

I hadn’t hear this talked about, but it seems that people were leaving during Trump’s speech today:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:12:08pm

re: #405 jaunte

Defamation how?

“During her campaign for President, Defendant Clinton has negligently, recklessly, and/or maliciously defamed Plaintiffs by either directly calling them liars, or by strongly implying that they are liars, in order to protect and enhance her public image and intimidate and emotionally harm and silence them not to speak up about the Benghazi attack on at least four separate occasions,” Larry Klayman, an attorney for the families, wrote in his complaint.

bostonherald.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:14:57pm
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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:18:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:20:48pm

Kaine doing retail at an Austin taqueria gets pulled aside by a Latino man who wanted to talk Trump, in Spanish

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whitebeach  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:21:38pm

re: #372 majii

“1968 I heard Janis sing”

Oh, why did you have to mention Janis Joplin? I’m still grieving her passing. Sometimes I go to YouTube and pull up some of her songs. I’ve always thought she was one of the best performers of all time!

Yes to all of that.

Look, I’m gonna sound like some kind of namedropper now, but I’ve told this story before here.

In the late 60s and very early 70s I was in San Francisco and became what I guess you might call friendly passing acquaintances with her. Some of the same places, same parties, bumped a few glasses together. Adjacent barstools now and then at a sort of hippie/biker/Vietnam vet/you name it joint called the Coffee Gallery in North Beach. No big thing, just a couple of still-young people running from the same kinds of crap towns in the same crap general section of America.

Night she died was the best live concert I ever saw. It was at Winterland, and the headliners were the Dead and Jefferson, with Quicksilver and New Riders on the undercard. When I woke up in the morning, it was like that scene in “Coal Miner’s Daughter,” my little alarm radio telling me she’d been found dead in LA.

Still haven’t forgotten. Never will, I guess.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:24:13pm

First concert: Zappa and the Mothers of Invention

First 45: likely The Osmonds

First LP: Hair (Broadway). I won it at a birthday party when I was seven. I loved it!! Wore it out. My parents were not happy this was a birthday giveaway.

First 8-track: Cheap Trick Dream Police?? Maybe Pat Benetar Live from Earth

First cassette: Meatloaf Bat Out Of Hell

All time favorite: Fleetwood Mac Rumours (oh the high days of my youth. Gold Dust Woman and the not so dust I partook of back then.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:24:23pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WOW

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:25:02pm

re: #410 Jenner7

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:27:09pm

re: #413 MsJ

First concert: Zappa and the Mothers of Invention.

Whoa!

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A Cranky One  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:28:37pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Three Dog Night was my first live concert. 1969, I think.
1968 I heard Janis sing in an open air theatre in Cincinnati’s Eden Park. She had a regular concert scheduled at Music Hall, but the wiring there couldn’t handle her amplifiers or something, so she just came out to the park and sang without amps. Free and no advance notice. I just happened to be there at the right time.

I was lucky enough to see Janis in her prime, short as it was.

Recordings don’t do the experience justice. She riveted the audience. And drank a lot of Southern Comfort during the set.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:28:53pm

CNN front page now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:29:46pm

re: #417 A Cranky One

I was lucky enough to see Janis in her prime, short as it was.

Recordings don’t do the experience justice. She riveted the audience. And drank a lot of Southern Comfort during the set.

Yes she did, and yes she did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:31:36pm
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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:31:47pm

re: #405 jaunte

Defamation how?

She said mean things about them. Specifically, she said she didn’t tell them the attack was over the video.

Also - Lawhawk pointed out that Klayman apparently isn’t familiar with the concept of sovereign immunity.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:31:51pm

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:32:31pm

re: #416 teleskiguy

Whoa!

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Chicago Amphitheater, possibly the worst venue in the history of venues. If you liked the music hitting you coming off the stage, you’ll love the double hit as it bounces off the cinder block walls and hits you from behind.

My first contact high. I was 16!

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:33:48pm
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Great White Snark  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:34:38pm

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Some number of us here are gun owners, maybe relatively few. What Donald trump had to say about the 2nd A was little short of anathema to me. I could rant pretty hard here and now, but just imagine a me doing a long inhale of air to calm down a bit. Just because that simple act is the opposite of the trumpers. Right where I feel comfortable. Opposite of those fools.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:34:59pm

I with Dave Weigel on this one. This Vine should be viewed at least a dozen times daily.

vine.co

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:35:12pm

The US gymnasts are KILLING it on the floor. Wowowow!!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:37:03pm

re: #392 BeachDem

Comment: There is a Meeting Here Tonight was a protest song.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:37:24pm

And now the false equivalencies. WOw.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:37:26pm

re: #425 Great White Snark

Some number of us here are gun owners, maybe relatively few. What Donald trump had to say about the 2nd A was little short of anathema to me. I could rant pretty hard here and now, but just imagine a me doing a long inhale of air to calm down a bit. Just because that simple act is the opposite of the trumpers. Right where I feel comfortable. Opposite of those fools.

I’m one of the gunowners here. Been one for decades.
Trump is a very dangerous person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:38:49pm

The Democratic winner in Wisconsin tonight who will be facing Paul Ryan in November:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:40:38pm

re: #427 MsJ

Biles only needed a score of 7.x to clinch team gold. Crazy.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:41:23pm

re: #432 GlutenFreeJesus

Biles only needed a score of 7.x to clinch team gold. Crazy.

Her routine was crazy. That last bit. Holee shitzky.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:44:14pm

re: #426 teleskiguy

I with Dave Weigel on this one. This Vine should be viewed at least a dozen times daily.

vine.co

I don’t get it.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:45:34pm

re: #329 Skandal

I’ve always thought of JFK when reflecting on stochastic terrorism.
I consider the Birchers complicit in that. How things change.

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ObserverArt  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:48:04pm

re: #285 Franklin

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Dang she got around in her youth. On the Today show this morning they showed she was with her mom and brother in the Today show audience when she was still a baby.

Here is the video. (And dang, I forgot that Al Roker was as large as he used to be)

Katie Ledecky appears on Today show as a toddler

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:49:04pm

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kaine doing retail at an Austin taqueria gets pulled aside by a Latino man who wanted to talk Trump, in Spanish

He is a perfect VP.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:50:39pm

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kaine doing retail at an Austin taqueria gets pulled aside by a Latino man who wanted to talk Trump, in Spanish

No shit. EDIT - only the racists think differently.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:52:53pm

re: #430 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m one of the gunowners here. Been one for decades.
Trump is a very dangerous person.

My neighbors might understand if I fly a “Molon Labe” sticker over my “I’m with Her”.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:53:35pm

re: #413 MsJ

First concert: Zappa and the Mothers of Invention

First 45: likely The Osmonds

First LP: Hair (Broadway). I won it at a birthday party when I was seven. I loved it!! Wore it out. My parents were not happy this was a birthday giveaway.

First 8-track: Cheap Trick Dream Police?? Maybe Pat Benetar Live from Earth

First cassette: Meatloaf Bat Out Of Hell

All time favorite: Fleetwood Mac Rumours (oh the high days of my youth. Gold Dust Woman and the not so dust I partook of back then.

Rumors was the backdrop for a whole hell of a lot of my life.

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ObserverArt  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:56:38pm

re: #308 danarchy

My First cassette was Van Halen’s 1984. First album was Thriller a couple years before.

Don’t for the life of me remember my first cd. Probably either metallica or Iron maiden.

Damn bunch of youths around here.

My first vinyl was The Doors.
My first cassette tape was Cream Disraeli Gears

And I listened to even earlier music because of many brothers and cousins. All the early Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, The Ventures, Beatles, Stones, Byrds, Moody Blues…hell I’m getting to the age I can’t even remember them all!

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CuriousLurker  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:57:40am

re: #153 Big Beautiful Door

I assume it means American muslim terrorists are killing about 318k times as many people as radical christian terrorists per capita.

Which, of course, would be total BS as homegrown American Muslim terrorists have killed 94 people since 9/11, with this year’s shooting in Orlando accounting for just over 50% of those deaths.

I can’t figure out why he added #Munich since the shooter in that one wasn’t “inspired” by Muslim extremists, but by Anders Breivik & the far right. People really don’t think at all, they just hear “Muslim” and go straight into freakout mode, never mind the facts.

Even if he was talking about the global Muslim population, his bizarre calculation doesn’t seem to account for the fact that most of the victims (worldwide) are other Muslims. Funny how often that bit of info gets ignored.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 11, 2016 • 6:53:37pm

re: #283 Mattand

In the DVD release of Bullshit, and in later vidoes, Penn finally succumed and admitted that he was wrong on the second-hand smoke controversy.


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