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āThe threats āstarted out fairly general in nature,ā said Schmidt, Phillyās GOP elections commissioner. āBut regrettably, after the president tweeted my name, there were more of them, and they were far more specific..referencing my children, and what theyāre going to do to them.ā https://t.co/fP4S1i9wji
ā Nicole Perlroth (@nicoleperlroth) November 21, 2020
Can states that didnāt vote for him just appoint Trump electors if they want?
Can they be sued if they do?
Hereās Greg Sargent with a āFrankensteinā moment. GOP office holders will have to babysit the base for years and pretend they agree that the 2020 election was stolen, while doing nothing about it. Failing at this game of make believe could become a way to get āprimaried.ā https://t.co/Z3ad5HaOcC
ā Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) November 21, 2020
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
Can states that didnāt vote for him just appoint Trump electors if they want?
Can they be sued if they do?
If they really want to, they could. There would be backlash but if they decide backlash-be-damned, there is little to stop them.
I know Iām doing something right when @TuckerCarlson is threatened by my reporting and making baseless claims about bad grammar.
As the great BeyoncĆ© said, āBoy bye.āpic.twitter.com/sebUyFY1yEā Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) November 21, 2020
Apparently my ā¦@MSNBCDailyā© piece on voter suppression in Georgia has found a couple fans in Oklahoma, who left me two voicemails on my work phone. pic.twitter.com/dj7S6L67nU
ā Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) November 21, 2020
update on my girlfriendā¦
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Travelling to Scotland? Our Glasgow Advent Calendars are now in stock. pic.twitter.com/ATW58yVg22
ā Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) November 21, 2020
re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If they really want to, they could. There would be backlash but if they decide backlash-be-damned, there is little to stop them.
So thereās still a chance some states could burn the law to the ground and Trump could get re-elected?
I really donāt want that kind of clusterfuck.
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
update on my girlfriendā¦
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Hereās the real reason Republicans are all in on Trumpās attempted coup https://t.co/FfEmSnNrsd
ā Republican Swine (@RepublicanSwine) November 21, 2020
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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second stage restart and shut down.
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
update on my girlfriendā¦
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Very funny string:
Remember Trump can still win Georgia by writing in Trump instead of Perdue and Loeffler! #writeintrumpgeorgiarunoff
ā Jeff Palm (@spudtrooper) November 21, 2020
payload separation.
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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re: #19 Charles Johnson
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Juniorās spokesman released it, you feckless doof. https://t.co/MgadtURYLN
ā Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) November 21, 2020
re: #20 š¹UOJB!
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Soā¦ they didnāt actually talk abt COVID relief then? And todayās letter from @MIGOP @GOPChairwoman asking to delay the MI cert for 14 days for a bad faith audit is a coincidence? And the mask-less champagne party in the Trump hotel was, what? A somber wake for 45ās presidency? pic.twitter.com/p1oppB0tiq
ā Julia Pulver, BSN, RN, CCM (@VotePulver) November 21, 2020
Why start now? https://t.co/iI0kf6IeAT
ā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
re: #24 Charles Johnson
Junior is just saying that to make a few people happy. He is not going to do anything different than he normally does.
Weāve reached the point of the Trump presidency where itās just widely accepted that people meeting with the president are also putting money directly into his pocket. Like itās expected of them. https://t.co/ktvlKlwnsT
ā Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) November 21, 2020
Did Michigan taxpayers foot the bill for the bubbly or the rooms? Did Chatfield and Lilly? Did Trump? https://t.co/55mMrB2nCN
ā Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) November 21, 2020
Please take Giuliani, please take Giuliani, please take Giuliani.
Boy, the 2016 āyou lost, get over itā crowd is really having trouble taking their medicine right now.
ā John Pavlovitz (@johnpavlovitz) November 21, 2020
Silly question, but whatās been going on with that PA lawsuit? Whatās next?
I think itās pretty Fucking sad that Weāre all sort of amazed that a Republican governor followed the law and not trump. https://t.co/FZJWCotHIT
ā Molly Jong-Fastš” (@MollyJongFast) November 21, 2020
Great new name for Ivanka!
Princess Nepotista is in a spot of trouble. https://t.co/wSu7ozx0fG
ā The Hoarse Whisperer (@TheRealHoarse) November 21, 2020
Hugh Hewitt (boo! hiss!!) writes in WaPo that Trump may not have had a wave, but he has undertow. That downballot races have increased Republican control to 66 of 91 state legislative bodies, and that means that they will be able to REALLY gerrymander now, especially since the newly wildly conservative Supreme Court wonāt stop them.
Moan.
re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth
As will Tom Wolf certify Joe Biden even with threats made to Al Schmidt.
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
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ā John Pavlovitz (@johnpavlovitz) November 21, 2020
Predictable
Hell predictable *in* 2016 for 2020
FUCK. Donāt watch if you are eating.
ā Adeyemi Adamsš š³š¬šŗšø (@HRHAdeyemiAdams) November 21, 2020
Itās a cry for help. https://t.co/o9AXMimUDW
ā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
re: #32 Sherlock Hound
Great new name for Ivanka!
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I read she is not personally a target, as long as she paid the taxes on the consulting fees she received, but the Trump org could be fined if they improperly deducted the payments.
I still think it is unlikely the NY investigations lead to jail time for anyone, more like some hefty fines and penalties.
Adam Schiff for the win!!
So no one told you life was gonna be this wayā¦ https://t.co/Y900JG9Bi3
ā Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) November 21, 2020
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg
So thereās still a chance some states could burn the law to the ground and Trump could get re-elected?
I really donāt want that kind of clusterfuck.
It is obviously being actively promoted by Trump, if he can get enough people to sign on, it will become an ugly reality.
Some ppl are slow. Also look inside the thread.
Here we go! https://t.co/oJDFHnA9Rz
ā David J Harris Jr (@DavidJHarrisJr) November 21, 2020
lengthy thread about shenanigans in Wisconsin:
Day 2 of the recount is underway in Milwaukee County. pic.twitter.com/Q6OrwVyIHw
ā Mary Spicuzza (@MSpicuzzaMJS) November 21, 2020
a taste:
Milwaukee County Elections Director Julietta Henry says some observers are objecting to EVERY absentee ballot that is folded. (Absentee ballots are all folded, so that would be every absentee ballot.)
ā Mary Spicuzza (@MSpicuzzaMJS) November 21, 2020
re: #18 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
payload separation.
thatās when Musk takes a dump after smoking a big fat after-dinner bluntā¦
re: #39 Teddyās Person ā
Adam Schiff for the win!!
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re: #42 Nyet
A ātsunamiā of evidence which includes one observerās guesstimate plus charts and graphs.
I wonder if Vanky will just ignore the subpoena?
Thatās usually what these people do, right?
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jeebus
Another clerk says that they have received an objection about an absentee ballot cast by a hospitalized voter.
A number of Wisconsinites hospitalized with COVID-19 cast absentee ballots this year as the state has faced a spike in cases, hospitalizations and deaths.ā Mary Spicuzza (@MSpicuzzaMJS) November 21, 2020
re: #38 danarchy
I agree. Iāll be surprised if any of these criminals actually face any consequences. People like Trump and his cronies always seem to get away with everything.
re: #42 Nyet
Some ppl are slow. Also look inside the thread.
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Assinine arguments based on the order the ballots were counted
re: #46 jaunte
A ātsunamiā of evidence which includes one observerās guesstimate plus charts and graphs.
And the 8x10 color glossy photographs with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back explaininā each one.
ICYMI: We sued Donald Trump and the Trump Campaign last night for violating section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by seeking to coerce and intimidate Michigan officials into subverting the will of Black voters in Detroit. https://t.co/UaJycebsPJā¦ https://t.co/yhIgMHlsJy
ā Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) November 21, 2020
re: #46 jaunte
A ātsunamiā of evidence which includes one observerās guesstimate plus charts and graphs.
re: #42 Nyet
Lin Wood is yet another fundamentalist who will fight everything that stands in the way of his theocratic urges.
God dies hard in America.
I expect this kind of thing to go on for the rest of my life.
Few people seem to ponder what the Scopes trial was all about.
Evolution was, to use a theater term, only the MacGuffin.
The real issue back then, and today, is the fight between theocrats and republicans (little ārā).
They should probably have made the failed lawsuits information bigger. #TrumpIsPathetic #TrumpIsANationalDisgrace https://t.co/F4CNsgMvXA
ā Lindsey š³ š· š± š¹ š #YOUREFIRED (@BlueTX2020) November 21, 2020
re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is obviously being actively promoted by Trump, if he can get enough people to sign on, it will become an ugly reality.
The short answer is this is not really a possibility in any practical sense. Technically, a state legislature could issue a slate of Trump electors (although remember, this would have to be passed by the legislature and signed by the governor, which is a bit of a lift). Of course, the Sec State and/or Governor would probably issue another slate of Biden electors in accordance with applicable State law, therefore meeting āsafe harborā deadlines. This goes to the incoming Congress joint session, with the Democrats in charge of the House. If there is a dispute between slates of electors, and even if a Republican Senate goes all in for Trump, the worst situation you will get is a deadlock between them over which slate to accept, which defaults by Federal law to the safe harbor slate of electors (the Biden one). So no, the system is creaky and stupid but not that stupid.
If you ignore the mountain of stupid bullshit designed to confuse and scare people, so far the election machinery has done exactly what it was supposed to do when it was supposed to do it. All the stupid court cases were thrown out, counties have certified their votes on schedule, and now states are certifying their votes on schedule. Trump is trying to panic and scare everybody because THATS WHAT HE DOES.
re: #51 A Three Hour Tour
And the 8x10 color glossy photographs with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back explaininā each one.
+1
I am beginning to see a pattern. https://t.co/fdSose4XSz
ā David Corn (@DavidCornDC) November 21, 2020
re: #59 jaunte
Beginning? That has been the pattern even before he became POTUS.
re: #56 ericblair
If you ignore the mountain of stupid bullshit designed to confuse and scare people, so far the election machinery has done exactly what it was supposed to do when it was supposed to do it. All the stupid court cases were thrown out, counties have certified their votes on schedule, and now states are certifying their votes on schedule. Trump is trying to panic and scare everybody because THATS WHAT HE DOES.
The GOP has to go along with it, they have elections in Georgia in play. And regardless of that, they have little to lose by insisting that the Democrats are massive fraudsters who āstoleā this election from (their white) American Voters.
It also hyphenates āno-one.ā
Couldnāt they have hired a grade schooler to edit it? https://t.co/bAtVHuGQkYā Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 21, 2020
It harms āno-one,ā Giuliani claims, to block certifying the will of millions of Pennsylvanians who voted in free and fair elections.
Thatās grammatically and conceptually outrageous.ā Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 21, 2020
re: #63 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I continue to be in awe of how sloppy they are.
As do the judges, it seems.
re: #49 Charles Johnson
I agree. Iāll be surprised if any of these criminals actually face any consequences. People like Trump and his cronies always seem to get away with everything.
The true golden rule. āHe with the gold makes the rulesā.
re: #63 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
L
I continue to be in awe of how sloppy they are.
I assume they are handing this off to unpaid interns or underqualified, overworked staff.
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The GOP has to go along with it, they have elections in Georgia in play. And regardless of that, they have little to lose by insisting that the Democrats are massive fraudsters who āstoleā this election from (their white) American Voters.
Sure, and this hasnāt stopped any of the actual election processes. Keep your eye on the ball instead of on the idiot screaming and waving his hands.
re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg
As do the judges, it seems.
Seriously the attorney I worked for would have given his pep talk on how important QC to these guys several times now. We always prided ourselves on quality in how we prepared ourselves for clients and cases.
The mailman just delivered the 4-section copy of the Epoch Times. Headline: The Election Is Far From Over. These bullshitters are sending this crap to everyone/randos in Hogwallow Flats, Alabama. Someone needs to get on their money trail back to the Falun Gong by way of eh GOP.
Hang on, Iāll get that evidence for you right away.
[ hits block button ] pic.twitter.com/eXBClwAcePā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I assume they are handing this off to unpaid interns or underqualified, overworked staff.
Iām a former paralegal. Thereās a certain professionalism that is expected even if youāre overstressed or not paid. I remember even helping on a case when I was in Amsterdam on vacation.
Georgia holds the keys to whether or not the country, each and every one of us, have peace of mind, a better economy and reduced risk of disease and death
Mitch McConnell will destroy the economy and our health to blame President Joe Biden
The racists & wealthy will suffer too https://t.co/V2hp4uhbUnā āRiotWomennā (@riotwomennn) November 21, 2020
re: #56 ericblair
The short answer is this is not really a possibility in any practical sense. Technically, a state legislature could issue a slate of Trump electors (although remember, this would have to be passed by the legislature and signed by the governor, which is a bit of a lift). Of course, the Sec State and/or Governor would probably issue another slate of Biden electors in accordance with applicable State law, therefore meeting āsafe harborā deadlines. This goes to the incoming Congress joint session, with the Democrats in charge of the House. If there is a dispute between slates of electors, and even if a Republican Senate goes all in for Trump, the worst situation you will get is a deadlock between them over which slate to accept, which defaults by Federal law to the safe harbor slate of electors (the Biden one). So no, the system is creaky and stupid but not that stupid.
If you ignore the mountain of stupid bullshit designed to confuse and scare people, so far the election machinery has done exactly what it was supposed to do when it was supposed to do it. All the stupid court cases were thrown out, counties have certified their votes on schedule, and now states are certifying their votes on schedule. Trump is trying to panic and scare everybody because THATS WHAT HE DOES.
i would make one correction, as i understand things
if a state legislature issued itās own slate of electors, Congress would *not* have a dilemma, or difference or dispute of any sort.
it would have a legitimate slate of electors certified by the governor or SOS or whoever, based on the election.
and
it would have āsomethingā from the legislature. that āsomethingā would have no weight, validity or legality. the legislature (depending on the state) has no such power to select the electors after an election by vote of the people.
*I* could send a slate of electors and it would have exactly the same validity as the legislatureās in this circumstance
A group of Michigan voters has sued Donald Trump and his reelection campaign, asserting the presidentās legal challenges to the 2020 election violated the rights of Black voters.
re: #71 Charles Johnson
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re: #75 dangerman
i would make one correction, as i understand things
if a state legislature issued itās own slate of electors, Congress would *not* have a dilemma, or difference or dispute of any sort.
it would have a legitimate slate of electors certified by the governor or SOS or whoever, based on the election.
and
it would have āsomethingā from the legislature. that āsomethingā would have no weight, validity or legality. the legislature (depending on the state) has no such power to select the electors after an election by vote of the people.*I* could send a slate of electors and it would have exactly the same validity as the legislatureās in this circumstance
I would tend to agree, but I guess it would end up as a distinction without much of a difference. They already decided on their manner of choosing electors before election day, so any attempted change is meaningless.
Citing this birther case is not a one time-thing. The Trump campaign relied on it in their earlier brief as well. pic.twitter.com/hW9h8YRc8D
ā Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) November 21, 2020
In case you were wondering, there are still idiot trump supporters waving his flag around at intersections in north suburban Chicago.
re: #78 ericblair
I would tend to agree, but I guess it would end up as a distinction without much of a difference. They already decided on their manner of choosing electors before election day, so any attempted change is meaningless.
The Trump argument that the state legislators can pick their own electors is a farce.
Itās like arguing that majority members of a state legislature can commit murder with impunity because they could (theoretically) pass a law to make murder done in their state by majority members of the legislature legal.
Anything the state legislatures do with electors without first taking that power back into their own hands legally is null and void.
re: #81 Nyet
What Iām reading itās purely informative and basically kabuki.
re: #18 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
payload separation.
Is that what the kids are calling it nowadaysā¦
itās that time of year again
i am going to hibernate now for the winter
stay safe out there
stay safe in there as well
just stay safe
and we can celebrate spring
together
good bye pic.twitter.com/oiqFEulIGfā darthā¢ (@darth) November 21, 2020
re: #81 Nyet
Honestly I believe that Gov Tom Wolf will certify the election for Joe Biden as soon as he can. The Republican legislature may try something but it comes down to Tom Wolf and who and what he certifies.
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re: #83 EPR-radar
The Trump argument that the state legislators can pick their own electors is a farce.
Itās like arguing that majority members of a state legislature can commit murder with impunity because they could (theoretically) pass a law to make murder done in their state by majority members of the legislature legal.
Anything the state legislatures do with electors without first taking that power back into their own hands legally is null and void.
That is what I have been saying. The law in all 50 states says that the electors are chosen according to the winner of the popular vote in that state. There is no ātakesies-backsiesā on that. You canāt retroactively pass a law to allow the legislators to overrule that decision. For all their bluster, there is no path to victory by legal means, and I suspect that most people involved except Trump know it.
re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg
So thereās still a chance some states could burn the law to the ground and Trump could get re-elected?
I really donāt want that kind of clusterfuck.
Well, no. If that happened Trump would not have been elected, he would have taken power with a coup dāĆ©tat.
Excuse me the preferred terminology is ādoin some Toobinā https://t.co/XNJ3QqouJU
ā southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 21, 2020
BTW, this is my Katyn site in Russian.
re: #90 thedopefishlives
That is what I have been saying. The law in all 50 states says that the electors are chosen according to the winner of the popular vote in that state. There is no ātakesies-backsiesā on that. You canāt retroactively pass a law to allow the legislators to overrule that decision. For all their bluster, there is no path to victory by legal means, and I suspect that most people involved except Trump know it.
Theoretically a state legislature that didnāt like how a particular election came out could immediately pass a law to change that result. But IIRC PA republicans donāt have a veto proof majority, so doing this legally would fail because of a veto from Wolf.
Another reminder of why these state level races are so important. IIRC the governors of MI, WI and PA all recently switched from R to D. Had that not happened, these state legislatures stealing the election for Trump would have been a much greater threat.
re: #70 Decatur Deb
The mailman just delivered the 4-section copy of the Epoch Times. Headline: The Election Is Far From Over. These bullshitters are sending this crap to everyone/randos in Hogwallow Flats, Alabama. Someone needs to get on their money trail back to the Falun Gong by way of eh GOP.
I remember a couple years ago (?) they kept putting happy animal rescue stories on FB, and I was wondering who the fuck are these people that are plastering their happy shit all over? I follow several animal rescue groups and I had never seen or heard of them before. Didnāt sit right with me - too targeted. Most rescue groups work hard to build trust and are always scrambling for funds. Not these assholes.
Then I did some checking and saw they were a cult group of foreign alt-right weirdos, that had nothing to do with animal rescues or rights, it was just clickbait. For no particular reason Iāve received a couple of their newspapers in my mailbox, which I have used to start fires.
Theyāre completely fucking crazy, like Fox News TV but in print.
good fucking grief
Act 77 passed with majority Republican support in a GOP-controlled legislature in 2019. It allowed for mail-in voting and eliminated straight party ticket ballots.
It passed the House 138-61, with only one GOP āNoā vote. It passed the Senate 30-20 with all GOP voting āYesā. /2ā Matt Maisel (@Matt_Maisel) November 21, 2020
Plaintiffs in lawsuit say the certification of the election, which Joe Biden is currently leading by 80,000 in race for President, and which Rep. Kelly won and Mr. Parnell lost, should be prohibited.
ā Matt Maisel (@Matt_Maisel) November 21, 2020
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re: #96 PrairieQueen
I remember a couple years ago (?) they kept putting happy animal rescue stories on FB, and I was wondering who the fuck are these people that are plastering their happy shit all over? I follow several animal rescue groups and I had never seen or heard of them before. Didnāt sit right with me - too targeted. Most recsue groups work hard to build trust and are always scrambling for funds. Not these assholes.
Then I did some checking and saw they were a cult group of foreign alt-right weirdos, that had nothing to do with animal rescues or rights, it was just clickbait. For no particular reason Iāve received a couple of their newspapers in my mailbox, which I have used to start fires.
Theyāre completely fucking crazy, like Fox News TV but in print.
Falun Gong is legit persecuted by the Chinese government. But my sympathy for that is mostly gone because they have so thoroughly aligned with US right wing nut jobs.
E.g., the most disgusting piece of propaganda I saw at the time of the Kavanaugh nomination was in the Epoch Times (their rag of a newspaper), where some smarmy little prick pointed out that āthe longest interval between a SCOTUS nomination and a confirmation vote was for Bork.ā
re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth
They supported it now they have changed their minds. Oy Vey. It sounds like DT has gotten to a few people to mess up what has been decided by the people.
re: #96 PrairieQueen
I remember a couple years ago (?) they kept putting happy animal rescue stories on FB, and I was wondering who the fuck are these people that are plastering their happy shit all over? I follow several animal rescue groups and I had never seen or heard of them before. Didnāt sit right with me - too targeted. Most recsue groups work hard to build trust and are always scrambling for funds. Not these assholes.
Then I did some checking and saw they were a cult group of foreign alt-right weirdos, that had nothing to do with animal rescues or rights, it was just clickbait. For no particular reason Iāve received a couple of their newspapers in my mailbox, which I have used to start fires.
Theyāre completely fucking crazy, like Fox News TV but in print.
We require people to register if they are acting as the agent of a foreign government. In this case we are dealing with a foreign anti-government millenarian cult. Thatās perhaps more dangerous.
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth
NEW: Last night on CNN, former Pa. Rep. Charlie Dent said sources told him incoming Pa. Senate Pro Temp @JakeCorman & Pa. House Speaker @RepBryanCutler were going to meet w/ @realDonaldTrump.
Both Corman & Cutler spox tell me they are not going to WH and havenāt been invited. /6ā Matt Maisel (@Matt_Maisel) November 21, 2020
re: #99 PhillyPretzel
They supported it now they have changed their minds. Oy Vey. It sounds like DT has gotten to a few people to mess up what has been decided by the people.
They didnāt realize at the time that their God-emperor was going to declare mail-in voting a fraud.
At a hardware store in a small town in upstate New York pic.twitter.com/0rfVYprMai
ā Strictly Count All The Votes (@christoq) November 21, 2020
Disgusting beyond belief. https://t.co/k7worHlIgZ
ā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
re: #100 Decatur Deb
We require people to register if they are acting as the agent of a foreign government. In this case we are dealing with a foreign anti-government millenial cult. Thatās perhaps more dangerous.
When I got their pro-fascist (pro Trump) stupid newspaper, I wondered if they had bought my address from Facebook when I had clicked some of the animal stories. Iām rarely on FB anymore because I.Canāt.Stand.Facebook. and Zuckerbergās waxy psycho doll face makes me recoil. I actually find him repulsive - genuinely revolting - not just by his doings, but his looks.
This cat takes a hilariously huge mouthful and the other catās face is the perfect payoffhttps://t.co/TKtlhSakWY pic.twitter.com/D4liK7SIV0
ā The Poke (@ThePoke) November 21, 2020
re: #83 EPR-radar
The Trump argument that the state legislators can pick their own electors is a farce.
Itās like arguing that majority members of a state legislature can commit murder with impunity because they could (theoretically) pass a law to make murder done in their state by majority members of the legislature legal.
Anything the state legislatures do with electors without first taking that power back into their own hands legally is null and void.
From Article 2 of the Constitution:
āEach State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.ā
There is nothing in there about a Governor having to approve this. Yes, each state has a law specifying that the electors are chosen by popular vote. But SCOTUS is stacked with originalists who may very well revert to the explicit text of the Constitution. The Republican Party has repeatedly shown that all it cares about is power and wealth. We are in uncharted waters here and may be witnessing the death of our republic, with the full approval of 73 million of our fellow Americans.
Either the Republican Party stops this now or we will not recover.
re: #65 lizardofid
The true golden rule. āHe with the gold makes the rulesā.
And those with the skill make the guillotines.
STAB TREK https://t.co/sx3FkyMuIQ
ā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
The nights are longer and the days are colder, perfect time to get creative from home. #gettymuseumchallenge https://t.co/X4HLqWibWN
ā Getty (@GettyMuseum) November 21, 2020
The way to spend a Saturday https://t.co/aWp17UEKp1
ā Getty (@GettyMuseum) November 21, 2020
re: #110 Charles Johnson
Align, and its sequel, Aligns. (There was no third movie).
re: #108 Hecubaās daughter
From Article 2 of the Constitution:
āEach State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.ā
There is nothing in there about a Governor having to approve this. Yes, each state has a law specifying that the electors are chosen by popular vote. But SCOTUS is stacked with originalists who may very well revert to the explicit text of the Constitution. The Republican Party has repeatedly shown that all it cares about is power and wealth. We are in uncharted waters here and may be witnessing the death of our republic, with the full approval of 73 million of our fellow Americans.
Either the Republican Party stops this now or we will not recover.
When federal law is silent on a subject, the usual rule in Federal court is to defer to state-level law. In all applicable cases, that state level law makes state legislators stepping in (without making new law) to override an election illegal. The US constitution is simply irrelevant on this point.
Sure, SCOTUS could do the maximum GOP hackitude thing, but IMO thatās unlikely, even for this SCOTUS. Roberts and Gorsuch seem to be the likeliest to hold the line here.
And why wouldnāt they hold the line? Judges only have power if laws mean something, and to illegally put Trump in office like this would be the end of rule of law in the US.
This is from The Washington Post:
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No. Iām saying youāre a fucking dick. Your entire timeline is you correcting everybody on the internet.
Piss off. pic.twitter.com/wNyZfhSSYkā Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) November 21, 2020
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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In the I Will Not Concede group. Somebody needs to tell him resident governor Inslee never left the catbird seat and doesnāt need this hunchbacked dipshit to concede a damned thing. When I filled out my ballot straight Dem no matter what, this is precisely what I voted against. Not now, not ever, not for any fucking reason.
Republican gubernatorial candidate Loren Culp wonāt concede despite losing to Jay Inslee by 545,000 votes. Heās turned his attacks on top Republicans and looks to be trying to remain relevant in the GOP. https://t.co/QxMYbyOkF3
ā The Seattle Times (@seattletimes) November 21, 2020
re: #118 EPR-radar
When federal law is silent on a subject, the usual rule in Federal court is to defer to state-level law. In all applicable cases, that state level law makes state legislators stepping in (without making new law) to override an election illegal. The US constitution is simply irrelevant on this point.
Sure, SCOTUS could do the maximum GOP hackitude thing, but IMO thatās unlikely, even for this SCOTUS. Roberts and Gorsuch seem to be the likeliest to hold the line here.
And why wouldnāt they hold the line? Judge only have power if laws mean something, and to illegally put Trump in office like this would be the end of rule of law in the US.
Laws mean whatever the judges decide they mean. Maybe Roberts would care but I wouldnāt count on it; after all he destroyed the VRA. Hitlerās Germany had plenty of laws that were used to enforce his dictatorship. Why do you think that Moscow Mitch stocked the courts with Federalist Society Hacks? Maybe itās actually Mitch who is responsible for this bloodless (so far) coup?
re: #70 Decatur Deb
The mailman just delivered the 4-section copy of the Epoch Times. Headline: The Election Is Far From Over. These bullshitters are sending this crap to everyone/randos in Hogwallow Flats, Alabama. Someone needs to get on their money trail back to the Falun Gong by way of eh GOP.
Got that earlier this week. Went straight into my firestarter pile with all the GOP election mailers from this year.
re: #110 Charles Johnson
X-Films.
re: #46 jaunte
A ātsunamiā of evidence which includes one observerās guesstimate plus charts and graphs.
Itās the Aliceās Restaurant of election lawsuits. With the added parallel that itās all garbage.
re: #136 Teddyās Person ā
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Thereās my little buddy! Hi baby!
Howās Teddy doing? All healed?
Sex and the Pity
ā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
re: #84 Nyet
What Iām reading itās purely informative and basically kabuki.
With poorly applied makeup.
re: #136 Teddyās Person ā
While doing some work this morning, my supervisor was watching me closely.
This is bogus.
1) Nevada Dems didnāt admit āfraud.ā There are *discrepancies* amounting to < 1/10th of 1 percent of ballots. Theyāre re-doing 1 race because margin is 10 votes.
2) Itās also not āfirst time in a generation.ā Same happened in ā18 primary.https://t.co/yS5TChqRbF https://t.co/wkwrAOoUV6ā Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) November 21, 2020
re: #126 PrairieQueen
In the I Will Not Concede group. Somebody needs to tell him resident governor Inslee never left the catbird seat and doesnāt need this hunchbacked dipshit to concede a damned thing. When I filled out my ballot straight Dem no matter what, this is precisely what I voted against. Not now, not ever, not for any fucking reason.
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Lol. Trumpās biggest fanboy decides to respond to Trump refusing to use taxpayer funds as required instead beats up Harris for making do. https://t.co/DNQqbNYsAO
ā emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 21, 2020
JFK and Jackie walk toward Air Force One, bound for Texas, at Andrews Air Force Base, this morning 1963: pic.twitter.com/lbkRPovtDi
ā Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) November 21, 2020
And now you know why the media constantly buoyed Trump and his administration: they got scoops day in and day out from insiders willing to leak anything to get a headline.
That doorās closed. Now they might have to go back to (GASP) investigative journalism. https://t.co/rGtqblu5aLā Nash Across the 8th Dimension (@Nash076) November 21, 2020
re: #182 Belafon
But thatās harder and more expensive!!!
Literally a diseased regime, a virocracy, spreading their disease and death to innocent people. https://t.co/snmYscyJX1
ā Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) November 21, 2020
re: #165 GlutenFreeJesus
That 80ās Showā¦.
That actually was a real thing.
It was cancelled after one season.
Given to GOP poll watchers by the WI Republicans- pic.twitter.com/xWrrC728b4
ā Janeās not Tame (@JksKathryn) November 21, 2020
re: #185 Eclectic Cyborg
That actually was a real thing.
It was cancelled after one season.
Yup. The point of the game is to ruin a show, right? *snicker*
Watch: Hundreds of Activists Gather for āStop the Stealā Rally in Georgia https://t.co/vUG1bqG9yg via BreitbartNews Big Rallies all over the Country. The proof pouring in is undeniable. Many more votes than needed. This was a LANDSLIDE!
ā Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 21, 2020
re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg
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It was definitely a landslide, you shiny orange asshole. Just not in the way youāre pretending.
Seen people sharing a low quality video of Donald Trump getting a Stone Cold Stunner and itās not right.
Hereās a high quality version, use this instead! pic.twitter.com/Hh3w1C93nHā Tom Campbell (@TomCampbell) November 7, 2020
re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg
I see no wide shots.
twitter.com
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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Yesterday Sidney Powell told Glenn Beck that US forces had confiscated Scyntl servers in Germany: https://t.co/pu9E34etOU
US Army (& Scyntl) have confirmed no such raid happened and Scyntl also noted they donāt even have offices in Germany.ā (((AG))) (@AGHamilton29) November 21, 2020
You have to understand that with the pandemic preparedness summit coming right on the heels of his first born son getting COVID, Trump felt a special urgency today to not give a shit. https://t.co/U1yJ1qLDyu
ā Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) November 21, 2020
re: #190 The Ghost of a Flea
I was at that show. Mine is one of the voices you hear screaming.
re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Thereās my little buddy! Hi baby!
Howās Teddy doing? All healed?
Heās still rehabbing and improving daily. For the past week, heās been going up and down the steps (from the 3rd floor). My back is very grateful not to be carrying him up and down anymore. Heās using the FHO leg more and more.
Heās got a new habit thatās frustrating. He never seems to want to go out. When I get the leash, he runs away. So, I had to come up with a strategy. Before I get the leash now, I carry him to the door, put on the leash and head out. Once weāre in the hall, heās done a 180 and is so excited to go out. What a weirdo.
What Trump is telling his cult in official email this hour. At some point, weāre going to figure out that having a pipe of pure shit running directly into the skull of the American body politic is fatal to our democracy.
Itās not goofy, itās not just desperate, itās treason. pic.twitter.com/sRyo3ZMSPlā Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) November 21, 2020
re: #200 ColĆØre Tueur de Lapin
Because by hundreds, he means 10s. Or, simply 10.
Donāt care how many come to a protest. Trump got less votes than Biden in the state. FT
re: #199 jaunte
Yes, this is the problem.
All too many Americans are so wanting life to be different than it is that when a salesman like Trump comes along and gets them to buy in, they are deeply bought in.
And it is very difficult to change people once they are deeply invested in something.
This is the heart of all things like this with humans: cults, destructive relationships, etc.
Whoever is the dominant party ends up shaping the very mind of those who are consuming.
And this is the kicker - even if the influenced know something is wrong, they have lost the ability to change.
Deprogramming cults is one of the specialties of a sub-division of therapists. Itās a tough business.
Now I still believe that there are Americans out there who identify as Republicans who are very put off by Trump. Yet somehow, other than some high profile types (e.g. Lincoln Project), they feel trapped.
And this gets me back to my lament - the worldview collapse keeps many voters frozen. They canāt internally accept a world that is different than what they were taught as a child, yet they also know that what is going on is in some fundamental way wrong.
re: #195 Dread Pirate Ron
Powell added: āBut weāre getting in evidence also that there were lines into the servers from four foreign countries all extremely adverse to the interests of the United States.ā
Yeah, thatās the way IP works, you dimwitted hack.
re: #205 ColĆØre Tueur de Lapin
Yeah, thatās the way IP works, you dimwitted hack.
No, you donāt understand! They donāt hook up the tubes unless thereās EVIL INTENT!
There are people in my Facebook timeline who are very thoughtful, considerateā¦ but can never vote for a Democrat because they think abortion is the unforgivable sin and Democrats are under the power of Satan.
These same folk may find Trump abhorrentā¦ but that is not enough to get them to support the abortion-loving Democrats.
Itās over, Donnie. https://t.co/Z0RSIgwQvo
ā Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2020
The success of fundamentalist Catholics in the 20th century in convincing fundamentalist Evangelical Americans that abortion is the most important national sin of the US ought not be overlooked.
re: #207 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
There are people in my Facebook timeline who are very thoughtful, considerateā¦ but can never vote for a Democrat because they think abortion is the unforgivable sin and Democrats are under the power of Satan.
These same folk may find Trump abhorrentā¦ but that is not enough to get them to support the abortion-loving Democrats.
Thatās a lust for temporal power. Thatās a sin for Christians.
Because I was raised in a Southern Baptist churchā¦.and abortion was allowed until quickening.
The change was not from a spiritual basisā¦it was for power in this world.
re: #110 Charles Johnson
Fiends
MUSH
Pacific Rum (an improvement)
re: #209 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The success of fundamentalist Catholics in the 20th century in convincing fundamentalist Evangelical Americans that abortion is the most important national sin of the US ought not be overlooked.
Stuff like this is why I wouldnāt be surprised if even though they now have a rock solid 6-3 majority on the supreme court, they still donāt overturn Roe V Wade. Because the moment they overturn it, how do they keep their base energized, and how do they prevent an inevitable culture war backlash? The GOP managed to get gay marriage banned in California, and the response effectively consigned them to a permanent minority not just in the popular vote but more importantly in seats held in government thus making it next to impossible for them to gerrymander their way back into powerā¦
āexposing the massive corruption in our Electoral Processā
In which Trump accuses every county election worker of being corrupt.
re: #128 Hecubaās daughter
Laws mean whatever the judges decide they mean. Maybe Roberts would care but I wouldnāt count on it; after all he destroyed the VRA. Hitlerās Germany had plenty of laws that were used to enforce his dictatorship. Why do you think that Moscow Mitch stocked the courts with Federalist Society Hacks? Maybe itās actually Mitch who is responsible for this bloodless (so far) coup?
Yes, well, so far Trump-appointed Federalist Society hacks have been tossing out Trump lawsuits because they donāt want to touch this shit. I suppose theoretically the Supreme Court could sua sponte declare Trump King of the United States tomorrow: where does this speculation stop?
Again, if you donāt get distracted by the insane sideshow, everything in the election has been proceeding according to process and law. The votes were counted; the mail-in votes were counted; the lawsuits were filed and almost all dismissed; the counties have certified their counts on schedule; and states are certifying their counts on schedule. Weāre well out of the zone where you can manufacture a dispute over the vote totals and now it would be a blatant coup, so weāve passed the most vulnerable part and it gets harder by the day. You can worry and panic all you want, but thatās what Trump wants.
re: #202 I Would Prefer Not To
Also I would guess half of those dipshits are from out of state. Not that GA doesnāt have enough assholes and then some, but I would bet half arenāt from this area at all.
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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ā Russ Burgos (just an academic for the working day) (@Russ_Burgos) November 21, 2020
The House needs to impeach him again, at once, and then hand that hot potato to the Senate. If things get worse at this rate they may be ready to do something to avoid the next couple of months. I donāt mind if Pence gets to be 46.
re: #217 Dread Pirate Ron
Trump considers any election he didnāt win to be rigged and illegitimate because only legit votes are the ones cast for him and his fellow GOPers.
They are fuckinā fascists.
re: #218 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)
The House needs to impeach him again, at once, and then hand that hot potato to the Senate. If things get worse at this rate they may be ready to do something to avoid the last couple of months. I donāt mind if Pence gets to be 46.
The last impeachment taught me that Nancy and company had to get their ducks marshalled and lined up well in advance. If they havenāt done this now (for round two), it wonāt happen.
Itāll be hard for Pelosi to fit this in with everything else that Twitter is screaming at her and Schumer to do. (Restocking her freezer with ice cream should be her priority, butā¦ ///)
re: #218 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)
The House needs to impeach him again, at once, and then hand that hot potato to the Senate. If things get worse at this rate they may be ready to do something to avoid the next couple of months. I donāt mind if Pence gets to be 46.
I am also feeling that another impeachment is in order. Trumpās election fraud antics are a dangerous affront to rule of law. The sentiment is getting more voices.
Why not impeach? The House can make quick work of it and not spend the time and effort that was taken to document and argue the case of Trumpās crimes in the Ukraine case.
latimes.com Letters to the Editor: Stop Donald Trumpās coup. Impeach him again
re: #8 š¹UOJB!
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