The Bob Cesca Podcast: Monkey See, Monkey Do

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Monkey See, Monkey Do — [Explicit Content] Rocky Mountain Mike is here with a shocking announcement; Buzz returns next week; Bob’s family tests positive; The COVID Shirkers are on the loose; Ron DeSantis and the self-indulgence of the American people; Super Bowl fans celebrate in the streets without masks or distancing; Joe Rogan thinks he doesn’t need a vaccine; Naomi Wolf brags about maskless dinner; University of Miami frats hold pool parties; Rep. Ron Wright succumbs to COVID after declaring schools to be safe; The Second Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump; The process; The evidence; The mulligans; Lou Dobbs fired while on vacation; With music by Rocky Mountain Mike, Dave Molter, and The Bitter Elegance; and more!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 2:23:00pm

https://t.co/sXzgIHU447

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) February 9, 2021

austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 2:25:12pm

According to Worldometer, the number of COVID-19 deaths exceeded 474,069 yesterday. That exceeds the Census estimated population of this City in 2019:

google.com

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 2:25:30pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mitch McConnell should never be taken seriously again.

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 2:25:44pm

what’s lost amongst all this is that trump could’ve opted to send two chimpanzees armed with a bucket of shit and today’s vote would be the same.

— ᑕᕼᑌᑎK (@chunkled) February 9, 2021

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 2:26:34pm

re: #4 jaunte

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downstairs, i did say rudy

what’s lost amongst all this is that trump could’ve opted to send two chimpanzees armed with a bucket of shit and today’s vote would be the same.

— ᑕᕼᑌᑎK (@chunkled) February 9, 2021

Yeah Sure WhatEVs Feb 9, 2021 • 2:27:18pm

re: #3 darthstar

Mitch McConnell should never be taken seriously again.

He never should have been taken seriously from the git go. Seriously, never..

Teddy's Person Feb 9, 2021 • 2:27:21pm

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 2:27:51pm

As far as I could understand Schoen’s formalistic argument. It is based on playing around with this:

1. The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

2. The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

There’s also this:

3. The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

4. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States

He argues that removal is a necessary part of an impeachment as per (2). Hence, since Trump can no longer be removed, an impeachment is impossible, hence the Senate lacks jurisdiction.

2 problems here. First, the impeachment has already happened, as per (3). So what he should be arguing is that a conviction is impossible, which is a harder task, and he can’t argue no jurisdiction since per (1) the Senate can try *all* impeachments, so automatic jurisdiction. Second problem is that (2) is inapplicable here exactly since Trump is no longer an official, so Schoen has it exactly backwards: if he were, he would have to be removed, but he isn’t, so he doesn’t have to be removed, but that doesn’t mean the other punishment cannot apply.

He tried to argue about the meaning of “and” in (4), but this “and” is holding together a limitation on the punishment “shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification…”. The punishment can NOT be greater than (removal AND disqualification). It can, however, be smaller than this maximum (i.e. it can consist of disqualification).

So AFAIC his case fails textually and logically.

austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 2:29:36pm

re: #2 austin_blue

According to Worldometer, the number of COVID-19 deaths exceeded 478,192 today. That exceeds the Census estimated population of this City in 2019:

google.com

Charles Johnson Feb 9, 2021 • 2:30:42pm

It’s hard to wrap your mind around the fact that an outright insurrection and attack on the US Capitol wasn’t that kind of crisis. What if the mob had succeeded in murdering Pelosi, Pence, and others? I doubt even that would change them at this point. https://t.co/uxeNI8lE8t

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 9, 2021

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 2:32:22pm

re: #8 Nyet

Ah, almost forgot. His sub-argument was based on what “the President” refers to - he was arguing it can only refer to a sitting President. We can accept this and he still fails, since Trump was impeached as a sitting President, and this further undermines his argument, based on (2), that Trump then would have to be removed, which would allegedly result in a logical contradiction; (2) however refers only to a sitting President.

Charles Johnson Feb 9, 2021 • 2:34:14pm

re: #11 Nyet

Ah, almost forgot. His sub-argument was based on what “the President” refers to - he was arguing it can only refer to a sitting President. We can accept this and he still fails, since Trump was impeached as a sitting President, and this further undermines his argument, based on (2), that Trump then would have to be removed, which would allegedly result in a logical contradiction; (2) however refers only to a sitting President.

He went on and on with a slippery slope argument that this would lead to impeachments of presidents like Carter, for the “Iran hostage scandal,” but that was just obvious nonsense since Trump was president when he was impeached.

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 2:37:24pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

He went on and on with a slippery slope argument that this would lead to impeachments of presidents like Carter, for the “Iran hostage scandal,” but that was just obvious nonsense since Trump was president when he was impeached.

Also, they’re welcome to try and impeach Carter.

Barefoot Grin Feb 9, 2021 • 2:38:06pm

re: #13 Nyet

Also, they’re welcome to try and impeach Carter.

“We call as our witness, Billy Carter!”

piratedan Feb 9, 2021 • 2:39:13pm

and I take a moment to review all of these threads regarding the impeachment of DJT X 2, fairly secure in the knowledge that Trump probably didn’t pay these guys either.

Charles Johnson Feb 9, 2021 • 2:42:19pm

The 45th President thanks Castor and Schoen for a job superbly done today: pic.twitter.com/pY2MPdFQ95

— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) February 9, 2021

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 2:42:36pm

Trump ass kisser Cruz may be investigated for altering a federal program to suit his biggest donors…

Things just went from bad to worse for Ted Cruzhttps://t.co/cCLb0Rz74o

— Wilson Chu (@MyWchu) February 9, 2021

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 2:44:19pm

BREAKING: NASA announces that no one has won the HLS contract. “Y’all cost too much,” says acting NASA administrator Steve Jurcyzk. “Prices are too high right now, we will try again in 50 years.” pic.twitter.com/IPZD0WzqRJ

— The Daily Worm (@the_dailyworm) February 9, 2021

Charles Johnson Feb 9, 2021 • 2:44:26pm

If only. https://t.co/ZEct9YBwIh

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 9, 2021

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 2:45:54pm

Republican “no” votes on the constitutionality before the Two Stooges: 45.
Republican “no” votes on the constitutionality after the Two Stooges: 44.

Wowa weewa! Great success!

austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 2:46:08pm

Last one for a few days:

According to Worldometer, the number of COVID-19 deaths exceeded 478,221 today. That exceeds the Census estimated population of this City in 2019:

google.com

Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Feb 9, 2021 • 2:47:05pm

re: #7 Teddy’s Person

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darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 2:49:15pm

The kraken ran.

The voting tech company said the lawyer has “evaded service of process for weeks.”…

Dominion Says It Had to Pursue Kraken Lawyer ‘Across State Lines’ to Sue Herhttps://t.co/PF7kKbFFdG

— Wilson Chu (@MyWchu) February 9, 2021

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 2:49:59pm

Multiple people tell me Trump was basically screaming as Castor made a meandering opening argument that struggled to get at the heart of the defense team’s argument.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) February 9, 2021

Next move for Trump is some insane acting out to make things much more difficult for Republicans.

Decatur Deb Feb 9, 2021 • 2:51:27pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Fox host calls Joe Biden “a bloodthirsty radical” mediamatters.org …

If you want a bloodthirsty radical President, with the bodycount to prove it, you have to go back to Geo Washington.

Decatur Deb Feb 9, 2021 • 2:53:30pm

re: #23 darthstar

The kraken ran.

They don’t make krakens like they used to.

Eclectic Cyborg Feb 9, 2021 • 2:55:43pm

re: #23 darthstar

The kraken ran.

Totally the actions of an innocent person.

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Charles Johnson Feb 9, 2021 • 2:57:13pm

Excellent. https://t.co/WKG15FCssF

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 9, 2021

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Feb 9, 2021 • 2:58:11pm

Cassidy tells me and other reporters just now - he believed the “house managers are focused” and relied upon opinions of legal scholars, whereas “anyonewho listened to President Trump’s legal team saw they were unfocused - they attempted to avoid the issue.” https://t.co/eNPlTK84ww

— Nicholas Wu (@nicholaswu12) February 9, 2021

Teddy's Person Feb 9, 2021 • 2:58:25pm

re: #22 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 2:59:46pm

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So superficial.

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:00:03pm

A myocardial infarction would be another way to resolve this…

🚨: Trump was very unhappy with his impeachment defense today and was “borderline screaming”, according to @KaitlanCollins’ two sources.

— Matt Rogers 🗳 (@Politidope) February 9, 2021

austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 3:00:31pm

re: #23 darthstar

The kraken ran.

Sydney’s got some major couch-surfing fu going for her.

🌹UOJB! Feb 9, 2021 • 3:01:47pm

re: #23 darthstar

The kraken ran.

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Maybe Sidney is on the run with Ali Alexander.

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:02:00pm

2. “These are the things and events that happen…”

Exactly

It was foreseeable, and he knew it.

Plus: Trump’s lawyers now essentially admit claim of a stolen election was false.

We’re left with the Big Lie, and Trump admitting it would cause the assaulthttps://t.co/YiNHcxmAMV

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) February 9, 2021

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 3:06:11pm

According to Trump’s lawyer, the American people voting out Trump was a, and I quote, “smart” decision.

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:08:37pm

There are more and more of these happening and more to come. 2.1 million doses two days ago, 2.3 million yesterday…up to 42 million - 11% of the country. Every dose matters.

— a different darth (@darthstar99) February 9, 2021

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:09:35pm

re: #36 Nyet

According to Trump’s lawyer, the American people voting out Trump was a, and I quote, “smart” decision.

That would explain the screaming heard by those around Mar a Lago

Charles Johnson Feb 9, 2021 • 3:09:57pm

Retweet this directly into my veins. https://t.co/QqRNMeidwV

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 9, 2021

🌹UOJB! Feb 9, 2021 • 3:10:03pm

re: #32 darthstar

A myocardial infarction would be another way to resolve this…

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The problem—if Trump dies the QAP will canonize him as a saint and Princess Ivanka will take up the mantle of the MAGATS. Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Posse will proclaim that Princess Ivanka is the heir to the Golden Throne!

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:11:47pm

re: #40 🌹UOJB!

The problem—if Trump dies the QAP will canonize him as a saint and Princess Ivanka will take up the mantle of the MAGATS. Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Posse will proclaim that Princess Ivanka is the heir to the Golden Throne!

I don’t think he has that kind of holding power.

🌹UOJB! Feb 9, 2021 • 3:12:38pm

re: #41 darthstar

I don’t think he has that kind of holding power.

44 Senators disagree with you.

DesertDenizen Feb 9, 2021 • 3:15:35pm

re: #42 🌹UOJB!

44 Senators disagree with you.

They’re afraid of him, not his children. None of them have shown the same combination of gross “charisma” and base cunning that their father has. Ivanka is too quiet, Jr. is too stupid, and Eric is both. I don’t see a functional dynasty here. Plus they’ll have to fight Hawley, Cruz, and Cotton for the fascist mantle.

retired cynic Feb 9, 2021 • 3:16:01pm

“I think people will get tired of him”: for Donald Trump, Sarah Palin’s fall shows the limits of media obsession.

The former Alaska governor dominated coverage while she was seen as a GOP kingmaker and potential presidential candidate—until reality (or at least reality TV) set in. The spotlight on Trump, too, may dim without a social media megaphone and as new outrage makers, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, grab headlines.

by Peter Hamby, Vanity Fair

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 3:16:27pm

re: #42 🌹UOJB!

Ivanka has never been a diehard favorite.

retired cynic Feb 9, 2021 • 3:17:31pm

re: #44 retired cynic

Iowa January 2015:

Soon after the segment aired, CNN president Jeff Zucker, who is always watching, emailed me and a few other producers demanding that we not cover Trump or Palin, explaining that both Republicans were carnival acts, attention-seekers, two unserious distractions from the real presidential race to come. At the time, few in politics would have disagreed. I think about that moment from time to time, and not just because CNN’s position on covering Trump so famously changed once he actually became a candidate, delivering ratings galore. But the Iowa story is worth remembering, too, because of the way Trump and Palin were lumped together by the smart set as little more than a sad and desperate right-wing sideshow, when in truth, they were two of the most consequential political figures in American history.

Florida Panhandler Feb 9, 2021 • 3:18:50pm

re: #40 🌹UOJB!

The problem—if Trump dies the QAP will canonize him as a saint and Princess Ivanka will take up the mantle of the MAGATS. Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Posse will proclaim that Princess Ivanka is the heir to the Golden Throne!

Not as big a deal as quite a few MAGA types including the female faction believe that women should not hold positions of power over men, mostly for hard-right religious reasons.

Donald Trump is the zenith of the America’s hard-right power center and Ivanka would only be a step down- perhaps a large one at that. It is a cult of personality and no other Republican carries the same amount of bluster and fake-phony authority as the orange orangutan does.

Barefoot Grin Feb 9, 2021 • 3:19:15pm

re: #43 DesertDenizen

They’re afraid of him, not his children. None of them have shown the same combination of gross “charisma” and base cunning that their father has. Ivanka is too quiet, Jr. is too stupid, and Eric is both. I don’t see a functional dynasty here. Plus they’ll have to fight Hawley, Cruz, and Cotton for the fascist mantle.

Now, if Jr. were to hold up the head of a lib instead of an elephant tail he’d be a made man.

Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 3:19:37pm

There’s some world class bad lawyering going on here. These guys wouldn’t make it 5 minutes in Prof. Kingsfield’s class.

(I know. This Tweet ages me. Which, as it happens, listening to this inane blather from Trump’s defense lawyers is also doing.)

— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) February 9, 2021

I would now like to turn to my co-defense attorneys Van Wilder and John Blutarski…

— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) February 9, 2021

PrairieQueen Feb 9, 2021 • 3:19:50pm

re: #45 Nyet

Ivanka has never been a diehard favorite.

Ivanka needs to hang out with Ann Coulter and absorb her anti-left rhetoric to have the right flavor for the GOP. And there’s still time. Ivanka may adopt that posture to make the sale.

Speaking of, are there any updates on Rush Limbaugh?

I Would Prefer Not To Feb 9, 2021 • 3:21:45pm

re: #50 PrairieQueen

Ivanka needs to hang out with Ann Coulter and absorb her anti-left rhetoric to have the right flavor for the GOP. And there’s still time. Ivanka may adopt that posture to make the sale.

Speaking of, are there any updates on Rush Limbaugh?

No. I also want to know when NY state is going to charge trump. I knew it wasn’t going to be Jan 21, but I was hoping it was by now.

A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Feb 9, 2021 • 3:22:17pm

re: #46 retired cynic

Iowa January 2015:

Well, one of them was.

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 3:22:36pm

re: #50 PrairieQueen

Last time I heard he had to be replaced again. As for Ivanka, yes, there’s still time, but right now she is seen as a liberal R and is only tolerated among the Q-adjacent due to her dad. Snowball’s chance in hell of becoming a princess etc. in the current state.

retired cynic Feb 9, 2021 • 3:23:03pm

A Nairobi Entrepreneur Is Recycling Plastic Waste into Bricks That Are More Durable Than Concrete (This Is Colossal) … and, the entrepreneur is a woman!

“It is absurd that we still have this problem of providing decent shelter-a basic human need,” Matee said in a statement. “Plastic is a material that is misused and misunderstood. The potential is enormous, but its afterlife can be disastrous.”

Mattand Feb 9, 2021 • 3:23:35pm

re: #24 jaunte

Next move for Trump is some insane acting out to make things much more difficult for Republicans.

Be a shame if all that screaming cause a heart attack or stroke or something.

Yep. A real shame…

Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 3:29:27pm

Schoen: “words are what make up our Constitution.”

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) February 9, 2021

What if each thing is made up of smaller and smaller things. Is your mind blown? https://t.co/YNiFFI0lqx

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 9, 2021

Banter burble banter bicker balderdash ballyhoo brouhaha these are words with a B this time.

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 9, 2021

Or Roland Barthes. There is no pleasure in this text. https://t.co/958RActUje

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) February 9, 2021

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:32:58pm

re: #55 Mattand

Be a shame if all that screaming cause a heart attack or stroke or something.

Yep. A real shame…

Did you just go: nice heart you have there…..

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 3:33:57pm

After a Trump lawyer’s lecture on the meaning of “and” don’t ever bring up the “meaning of is” thing again.

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:35:20pm

re: #42 🌹UOJB!

44 Senators disagree with you.

44 will be down to 27 if you say ‘Boo’ loud enough. Just need to hold one of them accountable.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:36:24pm

There’s something odd about the Senate, as the jury in fact, voting on whether the trial they are judging is constitutional/permissible

There something odd about the senate voting on whether anything is constitutional

🌹UOJB! Feb 9, 2021 • 3:36:34pm

re: #45 Nyet

Ivanka has never been a diehard favorite.

The Religious Right is solidifying behind Ivanka. They are openly supporting her challenge to Rubio.

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 3:38:35pm

Meanwhile hundreds of Qholes at GA are pissed off that the moderators explicitly banned the use of the n-word.

O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 3:38:42pm

re: #58 Nyet

After a Trump lawyer’s lecture on the meaning of “and” don’t ever bring up the “meaning of is” thing again.

I thought that was stupid even in my wingnut days.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:39:32pm

“As they droned on, he [trump] grew increasingly frustrated with the sharp contrast between their muted response and the prosecution’s opening salvo.”

Did he do the my cousin Vinny “I want him!!!”. ?

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:39:48pm

One of my brothers has gone off the deep end of the conspiracy bridge. Trump still has the nuclear football, Biden’s not really president…fortunately he lives pretty much off the grid.

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 3:40:59pm

-southbeatz 8 points 5 hours ago +8 / -0
A car accident is different, those usually involve normal people. This impeachment bullshit is just a bunch of scum. Honestly these traitors should hang but we are civilized and choose to not stoop to low levels like they would.

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-MyNameIsDurbs [S] 4 points 5 hours ago +4 / -0
Fair argument.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:41:52pm

re: #65 darthstar

One of my brothers has gone off the deep end of the conspiracy bridge. Trump still has the nuclear football, Biden’s not really president…fortunately he lives pretty much off the grid.

So what’s the point of this trial? Who’s pulling th strings?

Do I want to know?

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Feb 9, 2021 • 3:42:07pm

re: #60 Dangerman

The US Senate is archaic, an ancient reminder of the time when politics was about powerful men looking for ways to retain their power.

Abolish it.

Renaissance_Man Feb 9, 2021 • 3:45:53pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The US Senate is archaic, an ancient reminder of the time when politics was about powerful men looking for ways to retain their power.

Abolish it.

The purpose of an upper house, a Senate or a House of Lords, has always been for a parliamentary body to represent the interest of the upper classes, the wealthy, the powerful, and thus serve as a check and balance to a lower house that in theory represents the plebs. The US Senate is explicitly anti-democratic, much more so than most. I am ambivalent about the value of any upper house in a parliamentary system (there should be a check on a parliamentary body, even a democratically elected one), but the US Senate is a vile institution and should be ended.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:45:55pm

Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 3:46:02pm

re: #40 🌹UOJB!

The problem—if Trump dies the QAP will canonize him as a saint and Princess Ivanka will take up the mantle of the MAGATS. Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Posse will proclaim that Princess Ivanka is the heir to the Golden Throne!

Image Ivanka trying to carry Trump’s grievances. She can’t.

Decatur Deb Feb 9, 2021 • 3:46:33pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The US Senate is archaic, an ancient reminder of the time when politics was about powerful men looking for ways to retain their power.

Abolish it.

That would be this morning. And the day of the foundation of Urkesh.

O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 3:46:39pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The US Senate is archaic, an ancient reminder of the time when politics was about powerful men looking for ways to retain their power.

Abolish it.

I’m on record as saying that we still need some ability to check the majority’s power, to ensure that the Constitutional rights of the minority are protected and that a straight majority can never run roughshod over the entire country (see: Exactly what would happen if the Republicans took over). However, the mechanisms the Senate wields to accomplish this purpose are far too powerful to accomplish such a delicate task - like using a sledgehammer to swat a fly.

I Would Prefer Not To Feb 9, 2021 • 3:47:58pm

re: #71 Belafon

Image Ivanka trying to carry Trump’s grievances. She can’t.

No but I Hawley or another clown will try. They will fail, but they will muddy the political waters for decades. Republicans have yet to pay a price for being hateful and stupid. Until they do, there will be many more trumps.

Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 3:48:10pm

re: #54 retired cynic

A Nairobi Entrepreneur Is Recycling Plastic Waste into Bricks That Are More Durable Than Concrete (This Is Colossal) … and, the entrepreneur is a woman!

She sounds like Ultron talking about Vibranium.

Renaissance_Man Feb 9, 2021 • 3:49:26pm

re: #71 Belafon

Image Ivanka trying to carry Trump’s grievances. She can’t.

Ivanka is likely the worst of them all (which, given how terrible a human her father is, is saying something), but she prefers to project the image of the plucky princess of a beloved royal family. The best she could do would be to reinvent herself as a Southern belle, faux accent and all, and use that to win over the target demographic. Spitting hatred like the men of the US fascist movement would not endear her.

Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 3:49:40pm

re: #61 🌹UOJB!

The Religious Right is solidifying behind Ivanka. They are openly supporting her challenge to Rubio.

And that won’t get her the white men with gripes against women and Jews.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:50:14pm

re: #5 Dangerman

downstairs, i did say rudy

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THEY FINALLY FOUND A LAWYER WORSE THAN RUDY GIULIANI

— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) February 9, 2021

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 3:50:50pm

Holy hell. Michigan’s GOP Senate majority leader said the Capitol insurrection “wasn’t Trump people,” called it “staged” and “a hoax.” https://t.co/kOZL13rPMp

— Cameron Joseph (@cam_joseph) February 9, 2021

CGI, PEOPLE!

O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 3:51:36pm

re: #79 jaunte

CGI, PEOPLE!

And they’ll re-elect him handily, because people want to believe in fantasy over reality rather than admit they are wrong.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 3:51:40pm

re: #61 🌹UOJB!

The Religious Right is solidifying behind Ivanka. They are openly supporting her challenge to Rubio.

Dont make me have to consider backing rubio

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 3:52:30pm

re: #80 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

That’s his admission the videos of the insurrection are damning.

darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 3:53:17pm

re: #67 Dangerman

So what’s the point of this trial? Who’s pulling th strings?

Do I want to know?

He’s into a site by some guy called Simon Parkes (dot org). I looked at it in a Tor window…it’s just trump fanboy shit and conspiracies. The rally was peaceful, the protesters were bused in, not patriots… It makes me sad.

Renaissance_Man Feb 9, 2021 • 3:53:40pm

re: #77 Belafon

And that won’t get her the white men with gripes against women and Jews.

I think spitting hate like her father and brother would actually lose her more with the white women demographic, who would fail to identify with that. When it’s a fat clown like her father, they can roll their eyes and tut about ‘boys will be boys’ while still voting to keep those dark folk out of their neighbourhood.

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 3:54:44pm

Trump going into impeachment confident that Republicans will acquit him no matter what, so he’s going to make that as painful as possible for them.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) February 2, 2021

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 4:01:46pm

“…but then I said fuck it and still voted it was unconstitutional.” https://t.co/XepaCJ9j86

— Christopher Bouzy (@cbouzy) February 9, 2021

A Mom Anon Feb 9, 2021 • 4:02:39pm

re: #22 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:05:57pm

NEW: The Secret Service just revealed another $19K in taxpayer payments to Trump’s private company.

The payments were caused by Trump’s visits to his Las Vegas hotels. Agents had to follow. Trump Org charged for their rooms.

(Taxpayers have paid Trump Org $2.5M and counting). pic.twitter.com/wC2NHR1GH3

— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) February 9, 2021

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Feb 9, 2021 • 4:07:48pm

re: #73 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

For a while now I’ve been pushing that what we need instead of the Senate was a single House (enlarged a bit.)

Combine the enlarged House with a true Board of Governors (made up obviously of the governors of the states) whose powers are limited to true oversight. For example, IG’s would report to them, the CBO would report to them. This Board of Governors could be empowered to have limited pardoning ability, for example, to protect some over reach by the majority. Said Board could also call for national referendums on Constitutional issues, etc. But it would not have the power to legislate, or stand in the way of normal funding bills or Executive acts to carry out laws.

So when it comes to say an impeachment, such board could only pardon the guilty party, not stop or undo the impeachment.

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 4:08:23pm

Every. Single. Time. https://t.co/nUTo7gPeqO pic.twitter.com/IG8eNLETBt

— Schooley (@Rschooley) February 10, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:10:31pm

re: #90 jaunte

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Marco should just think of it as an extension of what the Senate GOP has been doing for the last 12 years.

O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 4:12:53pm

re: #90 jaunte

One word for you, li’l Marco: BENGHAZI.

Now kindly go fuck off.

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 4:13:57pm

If you are a Republican, and you vote to acquit Trump, there can only be one explanation: you are a fascist who supports an authoritarian autocracy.

Rationalize it to your heart’s content, but there is no other explanation. NONE.#ImpeachmentTrial

— Bill Madden (@maddenifico) February 10, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:15:55pm

This is not going to do our international reputation on culinary matters any good. https://t.co/5b4S1ewAye

— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) February 9, 2021

Barefoot Grin Feb 9, 2021 • 4:16:45pm

Totally OT: I wish I could afford a bunch of guitar pedals, but I can’t. But I do love watching the videos of the guy behind Wampler pedals and the guy behind JHS. They are nerds, good players themselves, and have ego in check. (I do not own a Wampler nor a JHS pedal. That could change at some point.)

Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Feb 9, 2021 • 4:17:55pm

re: #30 Teddy’s Person

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🌹UOJB! Feb 9, 2021 • 4:18:49pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

getyarn.io

jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 4:19:10pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least they didn’t scoop it directly off the counter with an ice cream scoop. But it still doesn’t look appealing.

Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 4:23:31pm

Anyone post this yet?

Mitch McConnell refused to hold an impeachment trial while Trump was in office…and just voted that it’s unconstitutional to hold this trial because Trump is no longer in office.

Need I say more?

— Robert Reich (@RBReich) February 9, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:24:35pm

At this point only Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer remains untapped to lead Trump’s crack legal team. pic.twitter.com/49w5A51PkE

— One Hot Mess AK (@libbybakalar) February 10, 2021

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 4:24:48pm

re: #99 Dangerman

Anyone post this yet?

What do you want to bet his lawyers try to claim double jeopardy if he gets charged as an accessory after the Senate votes not to convict?

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Ming5000 Feb 9, 2021 • 4:24:55pm

I don’t know the provenance of this, but I like it

This is the one! 🔥

America is coming back! 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/Bs8vS5gR6a

— AngryAsian #BlackHistoryIsAmericanHistory #Evryday (@AngryandAsian) February 9, 2021

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Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 4:26:01pm

with trump pissed off at his lawyers, now’s the perfect moment for dems to reup their invite to him to testify. he might just accept.

— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) February 9, 2021

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Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 4:26:20pm

Not getting my hopes up (though why not?)—but now that the jurisdictional question has been resolved, surely all senators (whatever their prior views on jurisdiction) have an obligation to judge the case on the merits: Is President Trump guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors?

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 9, 2021

Bill ain’t you been paying attention?????

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:26:30pm

“Jamie Raskin gave … maybe the best oral argument I’ve ever heard. It was both head and heart.”@neal_katyal on #TheReidOut.

— The ReidOut (@thereidout) February 10, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:28:15pm

Q: “Why did you think the Trump defense team did a terrible job?”

Cassidy: “Did you listen to it?”https://t.co/vpz0wzgQc4

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) February 9, 2021

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:28:51pm

I think Mike Lindell should join Trump’s crack legal team.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:30:43pm

Have you checked in with your Trump Org offices in Shanghai, Junior? #ChineseMoney https://t.co/qAapkMvBdG

— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) February 10, 2021

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Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 4:31:09pm

re: #101 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

What do you want to bet his lawyers try to claim double jeopardy if he gets charged as an accessory after the Senate votes not to convict?

For sure anything to delay
but I think its pretty settled
Double jeopardy applies to criminal prosecutions, right?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 4:32:02pm

re: #109 Dangerman

For sure anything to delay
but I think its pretty settled
Double jeopardy applies to criminal prosecutions, right?

That’s what they seem to be claiming this is, though they did a piss-poor job of a defense if it is.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Feb 9, 2021 • 4:33:05pm

re: #87 A Mom Anon

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Dangerman Feb 9, 2021 • 4:33:29pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A billion?
The amount keeps going up

Have you checked in with your Trump Org offices in Shanghai, Junior? #ChineseMoney https://t.co/qAapkMvBdG

— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) February 10, 2021

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The Pie Overlord! Feb 9, 2021 • 4:33:59pm

Perry Stone = פרי שתן = “Fruit of Satan” https://t.co/johpZuHsOl

— #BlueWave Blueberry Pie (@Pie_Overlord) February 10, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:34:19pm

OT, but here’s the weird thing we found under the dead fridge.

it’s about 6 cm tall
we have no idea where it came from, other than possibly a long forgotten part of our gargoyle collection

115

Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:35:21pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT, but here’s the weird thing we found under the dead fridge.

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it’s about 6 cm tall
we have no idea where it came from, other than possibly a long forgotten part of our gargoyle collection

Pazuzu. *shrug*

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Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 4:35:23pm

Interesting & important @HooverInst analysis:
No Evidence For Voter Fraud: A Guide To Statistical Claims About The 2020 Election https://t.co/5RuoQ3AwsV

— Sheena Greitens (@SheenaGreitens) February 9, 2021

Hoover Institution? Hmmm.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:37:07pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

Srsly tho, a great premise for a decent horror B-movie.

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Ming5000 Feb 9, 2021 • 4:37:25pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pack up and move immediately!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 4:38:14pm

re: #117 Nyet

Srsly tho, a great premise for a decent horror B-movie.

I won’t worry unless Lara Croft comes to visit

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 4:38:39pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT, but here’s the weird thing we found under the dead fridge.

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it’s about 6 cm tall
we have no idea where it came from, other than possibly a long forgotten part of our gargoyle collection

Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:41:15pm

re: #116 Dread Pirate Ron

Seems like a great paper; pity they don’t cover Edward Solomon’s claims (though they don’t even begin to give off an appearance of rigor (unless it’s mortis)).

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Eventual Carrion Feb 9, 2021 • 4:42:10pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT, but here’s the weird thing we found under the dead fridge.

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it’s about 6 cm tall
we have no idea where it came from, other than possibly a long forgotten part of our gargoyle collection

Or you’re house was built on an ancient Native American burial ground. Does the static from your TV or radio whisper ideas into your head?

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The Pie Overlord! Feb 9, 2021 • 4:43:04pm

WUT

Trump’s lawyer just said that if Trump is convicted for doing what he didn’t do, he’ll do it again, and worse.

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) February 9, 2021

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mmmirele Feb 9, 2021 • 4:43:42pm

I’m going to be so annoyed if I am really sick, instead of having a stomach ache, hurting all over and running a low-grade fever. I couldn’t sit in a chair anymore (she wrote from her bed). Blargh. I hope it’s food poisoning!

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist Feb 9, 2021 • 4:43:48pm

re: #95 Barefoot Grin

You should check out Joe Gore’s pedals & videos, then.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave.. Feb 9, 2021 • 4:44:10pm

re: #123 The Pie Overlord!

WUT

At the core of it, this is what they truly believe. They’re frightened of the mob that they have spent decades carefully grooming, stirring, and finally whipping into a frenzy. They know they’re losing control of the leash.

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stpaulbear Feb 9, 2021 • 4:44:14pm

re: #80 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

And they’ll re-elect him handily, because people want to believe in fantasy over reality rather than admit they are wrong.

Umm, how’s that going to go over with the upstate militia guys who went to DC? Did he think that one through?

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:44:32pm

re: #123 The Pie Overlord!

I take anything Kasparov says with a grain of salt (even when he seems to agree with me).

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Decatur Deb Feb 9, 2021 • 4:44:48pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT, but here’s the weird thing we found under the dead fridge.

[Embedded content]

it’s about 6 cm tall
we have no idea where it came from, other than possibly a long forgotten part of our gargoyle collection

Voids your warranty, fer sure.

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The Pie Overlord! Feb 9, 2021 • 4:45:44pm

My first thought was “Who is Pearl Milling?”

NEW: The brand formerly known as Aunt Jemima announces its new name: Pearl Milling Company. https://t.co/lbfjEYvA8I

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 10, 2021

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Barefoot Grin Feb 9, 2021 • 4:45:51pm

re: #125 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

You should check out Joe Gore’s pedals & videos, then.

I think I’ve seen those in passing but haven’t checked any out. Thanks.

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gocart mozart Feb 9, 2021 • 4:47:29pm

Do yourself a favor. Watch this. https://t.co/mxKx27LWVT

— Patricia Arquette (@PattyArquette) February 10, 2021

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Ming5000 Feb 9, 2021 • 4:49:22pm

I hope I never hear, “The US Senate is the greatest deliberative body in the world,” again.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:49:36pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

Real life LOL.
His voice.

I hope they continued like that.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:51:00pm

These fun moments are a by-product of the legal profession’s dedication to ensuring that the justice system continues to function in these tough times. Everyone involved handled it with dignity, and the filtered lawyer showed incredible grace. True professionalism all around!

— Judge Roy Ferguson (@JudgeFergusonTX) February 9, 2021

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 4:54:16pm

“I’m not a cat”? What a cat thing to say.

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stpaulbear Feb 9, 2021 • 4:56:45pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

I still occasionally make an open face baked sandwich with baked beans, bacon and a slice of American cheese on wheat bread. I use Bush’s instead of Heinz though. Heinz baked beans always reminds me of The Who Sell Out.

Heinz Baked Beans (Mono Version)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 4:57:17pm

re: #69 Renaissance_Man

The purpose of an upper house, a Senate or a House of Lords, has always been for a parliamentary body to represent the interest of the upper classes, the wealthy, the powerful, and thus serve as a check and balance to a lower house that in theory represents the plebs. The US Senate is explicitly anti-democratic, much more so than most. I am ambivalent about the value of any upper house in a parliamentary system (there should be a check on a parliamentary body, even a democratically elected one), but the US Senate is a vile institution and should be ended.

Hence during the Great Depression, Nebraska abolished its senate. The house became the sole legislative body (though members of the Unicameral are called senators).

The wealthy and powerful keep their grasp on state politics here though by holding down the pay of state senators so only the wealthy or retirees can run for office. People like former senator Ernie Chambers or current senator Megan Hunt are very rare in our state government.

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 4:59:50pm

Gave me warm fuzzies to read this.

Multiple people tell me Trump was basically screaming as Castor made a meandering opening argument that struggled to get at the heart of the defense team’s argument.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) February 9, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 5:01:36pm

Arenas and stadiums don’t shut the bathrooms and concession stands in America while the national anthem is being played. You can literally buy a beer and take a shit during the national anthem — but sure, someone peacefully protesting by taking a knee is being disrespectful. Smh.

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) February 10, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 5:02:53pm

The prevailing opinion of Bruce Castor and David Schoen. pic.twitter.com/waRFDmIyE9

— Lorenzo The Cat (@LorenzoTheCat) February 10, 2021

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 5:04:07pm

Chris Hayes replaying the riot video now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 5:05:09pm

Trump team adviser candid on messy opening day for former president’s impeachment team. Adviser said Trump could be in serious jeopardy if he finds himself charged in criminal court: “Trump is f*cked if anyone ever charges him. No one wants to work with him.”

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) February 9, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 5:06:27pm

This will be Merrick Garland’s first Senate Judiciary Committee hearing since President Obama nominated him to be a Supreme Court justice in March 2016, when Republicans refused to give him a hearing or a vote all year.

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) February 10, 2021

The committee will vote on March 1 to send Garland’s nomination as US atty general to the full Senate.

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) February 10, 2021

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:08:06pm

re: #139 No Malarkey!

I hope he pops a Wessel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 5:08:32pm

Mark Cuban decided before the season the Mavericks would no longer play the national anthem, and it hasn’t been before any of the team’s 13 home games.

It’s the first instance we know of a pro sports team striking the U.S. anthem from the pre-game. https://t.co/VaReFVCu4U

— tim cato (@tim_cato) February 10, 2021

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:08:55pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, the Two Stooges are NOT cute. /

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steve_davis Feb 9, 2021 • 5:11:24pm

re: #51 I Would Prefer Not To

No. I also want to know when NY state is going to charge trump. I knew it wasn’t going to be Jan 21, but I was hoping it was by now.

My guess is that they haven’t had full access to the tax returns until now, and they’re going to give those their full attention for awhile before they send the process server to florida.

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 5:13:10pm

The mob understood Trump perfectly; they were chanting “fight for Trump” when they attacked.

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Eventual Carrion Feb 9, 2021 • 5:14:42pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sweet Georgia Brown is a more jumpin’ song to get fired up with anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:15:48pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

The section of Title 4 on patriotic customs is quite clear you should stand when the national anthem is played or the flag is raised or lowered. It does not provide exceptions.

I’ll bet exactly zero of these conservative pearl-clutchers stand for the national anthem when it’s played on television in their living room.

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darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 5:16:10pm

re: #149 No Malarkey!

The mob understood Trump perfectly; they were chanting “fight for Trump” when they attacked.

I had to turn the TV off. The added first person videos are just too much and the editing makes it feel like it’s happening again. Props to the Democratic House managers for putting this together to air, but I can’t watch it again.

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Sherlock Hound Feb 9, 2021 • 5:16:50pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tell the New York Yankees. They made people stand for “God Bless America” in the seventh inning stretch. They actually kept an old guy from going to the restroom.

They dropped this, after a fuss.

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:17:20pm

Charles I am having a problem with updinging. Simply put I cannot do it on my Mac and on my iPhone.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Feb 9, 2021 • 5:18:22pm

re: #154 PhillyPretzel

Charles I am having a problem with updinging. Simply put I cannot do it on my Mac and on my iPhone.

Works on my iPhone. FYI.

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darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 5:18:44pm

NEW: Biden NSC has access to Trump’s foreign leader calls, plus: Trump lawyer John Eisenberg, who concealed some of those calls in secret NSC server, is now one of Trump’s representatives handling records requests from the new White House. https://t.co/n6bim9AmOJ

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) February 10, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Feb 9, 2021 • 5:18:58pm

NEW: Son of @SenToomey, R-Pa., bought a bunch of @GameStop stock on Jan. 27, per federal disclosures.

On Jan. 28, he sold it — the same day his father released a statement warning of a “bubble.”https://t.co/xH8XatbAJn

— Dave Levinthal (@davelevinthal) February 10, 2021

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darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 5:19:26pm

re: #154 PhillyPretzel

Charles I am having a problem with updinging. Simply put I cannot do it on my Mac and on my iPhone.

When the time is right for updinging, will you be ready?

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darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 5:20:04pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey Dad, I bought a bunch of Gamestop!
Sell that shit, son!

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:20:14pm

It works in spy mode but not in the regular thread.

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Barefoot Grin Feb 9, 2021 • 5:20:23pm

re: #149 No Malarkey!

The mob understood Trump perfectly; they were chanting “fight for Trump” when they attacked.

“or you won’t have a country anymore.”

Isabel Wilkerson answered this in her book Caste where she said [paraphrasing] ’ liberals wonder why they vote against their own self interest; they are not; they understand their self interest to reside in occupying a higher social status even if a lower economic one by being white.’

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:22:52pm

For now I will be in spy mode.

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Sherlock Hound Feb 9, 2021 • 5:22:56pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The section of Title 4 on patriotic customs is quite clear you should stand when the national anthem is played or the flag is raised or lowered. It does not provide exceptions.

I’ll bet exactly zero of these conservative pearl-clutchers stand for the national anthem when it’s played on television in their living room.

I was treated to this on FB today:

Whatever you say!

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darthstar Feb 9, 2021 • 5:23:20pm

this is a fascinating bit of archival research https://t.co/nme3EEeZI8

— David Frum (@davidfrum) February 10, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:24:01pm

re: #154 PhillyPretzel

Charles I am having a problem with updinging. Simply put I cannot do it on my Mac and on my iPhone.

Try upfisting.

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:24:35pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Cute.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:26:31pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Try upfisting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:26:52pm

re: #156 darthstar

So what exactly does this mean? Can Eisenberg continue to conceal these calls?

— Lindalou 💜☮ (@LindaLouCole) February 10, 2021

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Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 5:26:57pm

re: #128 Nyet

I take anything Kasparov says with a grain of salt (even when he seems to agree with me).

Except that’s what the lawyers pretty much said.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:28:04pm

re: #169 Belafon

Except that’s what the lawyers pretty much said.

Maybe, but Kasparov’s assertion wouldn’t be enough for me to accept this.

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austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 5:28:10pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT, but here’s the weird thing we found under the dead fridge.

[Embedded content]

it’s about 6 cm tall
we have no idea where it came from, other than possibly a long forgotten part of our gargoyle collection

Moloch, baby, Moloch.

No wonder why Mr. BWS has been called out to so many out of State repairs by weird weather.

IT’S IN YOUR HOUSE!!!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:28:41pm

re: #163 Sherlock Hound

I was treated to this on FB today:

Ugh

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Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 5:29:58pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m going to go with “Yay, Mark.”

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Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 5:31:51pm

My weed delivery service is doing what they can for people struggling in the pandemic with $9.99 eights. White Label. They also have 93 different varieties of cannabis flower. Too many choices.

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 5:32:25pm

Love hearing Trump’s lawyer say “he was removed by the voters.” I bet Trump was thrilled hearing his lawyer say that.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Feb 9, 2021 • 5:32:59pm

Another old white dude (67). This is my first time to belong to a dangerous minority. I hope the cops don’t start to stop and frisk us at random.

Suspect identified in shooting at Allina Clinic Crossroads in Buffalo; 1 dead, 4 injured

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HRH Stanley Sea Feb 9, 2021 • 5:33:04pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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1 billion.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:33:20pm

re: #175 No Malarkey!

Love hearing Trump’s lawyer say “he was removed by the voters.” I bet Trump was thrilled hearing his lawyer say that.

And that they were “smart enough” to do it.

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Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 5:34:01pm

re: #163 Sherlock Hound

Anyone who thinks people should be required to stand for the anthem don’t actually want to live in a free country.

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austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 5:34:11pm

re: #145 Nyet

I hope he pops a Wessel.

Call 911, Horst! He popped a Wessel!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Feb 9, 2021 • 5:36:26pm

Joe can speak directly to Putin any time he wants. Why mess with middle-men like Cruz and Aqua Buddha?

— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) February 10, 2021

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:37:25pm

I also noticed that when I go into the main thread it stops and does not allow new comments to come up.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:38:11pm

re: #179 Belafon

Anyone who thinks people should be required to stand for the anthem don’t actually want to live in a free country.

Yup.

If the idea that standing for the anthem or the nation’s flag is supposed to be a mark of respect (like standing for people when they enter a room), then you’d think that the nation doing things which would cause people to naturally stand for those symbols would be preferable to compelling people to do it.

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plansbandc Feb 9, 2021 • 5:38:22pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

I could become a fan of his team just for that. (If I weren’t a Jokic stan that is.)

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:38:47pm

The music to go with BWS’ fridge horror photo.

Goblin - Suspiria Theme - 1977

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austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 5:38:53pm

re: #154 PhillyPretzel

Charles I am having a problem with updinging. Simply put I cannot do it on my Mac and on my iPhone.

Well, I just up-dinged you!

Does your OS hate you? Have you insulted Siri? Maybe it’s the Bios in your devices?

Or did you lose a small idol of Moloch under your Fridge? Hmmmm?

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:39:59pm

re: #186 austin_blue

Well I did tell Alexa to drop dead but that was 6 months ago.

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 5:40:39pm

I’m glad that when the Senate acquits Trump, he won’t get to tweet, “TOTAL VINDICATION!” I hope the Manager’s case does serious damage to his reputation.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:41:53pm

re: #185 Nyet

PS: and the remake of Suspiria is totally worth it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:43:15pm

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Lots of people bitching about VP Harris being there.

Why is Kamala always there???

— Clarece Johnson⌛🦁 (@Clarece71) February 3, 2021

Maybe because Democrats actually care about doing the job properly?

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stpaulbear Feb 9, 2021 • 5:44:20pm

re: #152 darthstar

I had to turn the TV off. The added first person videos are just too much and the editing makes it feel like it’s happening again. Props to the Democratic House managers for putting this together to air, but I can’t watch it again.

I’d been finding it impossible to watch most of the videos until now. I paid attention for that whole house video. It was horrifying, but the way they put everything in chronological order made it incredibly compelling to me today. They could have made it a lot more damning than they did. I was wishing there would have been stuff about Trump watching it with glee in the white house, but there are no videos of that so it was probably seen as too much of a conjecture. They did a great job of presenting the stuff that came out of Trump’s mouth in the context of what was happening in real time.

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:44:38pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That is it. The Democrats want to see that the job whatever it is, is done properly.

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austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 5:45:42pm

re: #185 Nyet

The music to go with BWS’ fridge horror photo.

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She Who Must Be Obeyed watched the first 15 minutes of that movie and said “That’s it, I’m done.”

I was pretty freaked out myself.

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jaunte Feb 9, 2021 • 5:46:15pm

pic.twitter.com/u72Yc4vVbf

— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) February 10, 2021

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BlueSpotinAL Feb 9, 2021 • 5:47:24pm

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 5:49:12pm

That is a good idea. They should also keep one copy for themselves.

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b.d. (America is Great Again) Feb 9, 2021 • 5:50:10pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lots of people bitching about VP Harris being there.

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Maybe because Democrats actually care about doing the job properly?

The VP is always there because if the VP leaves the POTUS, the POTUS will send a murderous mob to kill the VP………..oh wait….that was the last pair.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:50:34pm

And then, when you ask why the orphan-crushing machine even exists, americans act bewildered that the large hydraulic device with a chute labelled INSERT ORPHANS HERE could be mistaken for an orphan-crushing machine

— Anosognosiogenesis (@pookleblinky) September 25, 2020

And if you ask why they, knowing this, continue to put orphans into the orphan-crushing machine, the american will be baffled at the idea that you wouldn’t use an orphan-crushing machine.

“It’s right there. Would be a waste if you didn’t use it.”

— Anosognosiogenesis (@pookleblinky) September 25, 2020

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William Lewis Feb 9, 2021 • 5:51:37pm

re: #163 Sherlock Hound

I was treated to this on FB today:

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Just ask the poster where they served. Usually shuts them up because they hate admitting they’re little shits that never did.

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SerialUpDinger Feb 9, 2021 • 5:51:47pm

While the Super Bowl was playing out, I went for a walk to clear my mind. This gooseberry has such lovely shades of red and white. Point Mugu State Park

Hllside Gooseberry

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 5:51:51pm

re: #195 BlueSpotinAL

I have one of those and promptly lost it somehow. It might be in my car somewhere.

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 5:52:34pm

Life comes at you fast…

Lou Dobbs lashes out at Fox after his show is canceledhttps://t.co/Jm4olvmCnU

— Raw Story (@RawStory) February 7, 2021

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Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 5:54:41pm

Not sure what “Tennessee values” you’re referencing, but when I took 8th-grade Tennessee History we learned that William Blount — one of TN’s first two senators — was impeached *after* he’d been expelled from the Senate.

(Trump, meanwhile, was impeached while still president.) https://t.co/3JskynzdtI

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 10, 2021

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Feb 9, 2021 • 5:56:54pm

tearful community comes together to purchase local child’s organs at above market value.

— Michaela Joffe (@joffeorama) February 10, 2021

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Jay C Feb 9, 2021 • 5:57:44pm

re: #130 The Pie Overlord!

My first thought was “Who is Pearl Milling?”

Aunt Jemima’s niece?

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Belafon Feb 9, 2021 • 5:58:06pm

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Even though the original thread is old, this was in the thread:

You say all this and this is my timeline -.- pic.twitter.com/QEjZ9cUbxh

— Not Jak (@Jakwisp) February 10, 2021

Here’s the story: abc7news.com

Her gofundme is linked in the story, which raised $80k of the $75k she asked for. But we should make it so that this story doesn’t have to happen.

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stpaulbear Feb 9, 2021 • 5:58:17pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lots of people bitching about VP Harris being there.

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Maybe because Democrats actually care about doing the job properly?

They have to meet with republicans in pairs in case they later need to verify what was actually said by republicans in the meeting.

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Dread Pirate Ron Feb 9, 2021 • 6:01:21pm

🐾 My dad knows I enjoy sitting by the fireplace, I sometimes even nap there during longer meetings. Because he loves me so furry much, he purrsonally makes sure that there are always enough logs on the fire. This is why I think my dad @POTUS is the most pawsome dog dad! - Champ pic.twitter.com/eddB5xIyMu

— The Oval Pawffice® 🇺🇸 (@TheOvalPawffice) February 10, 2021

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 6:01:47pm

I just checked my iPad and that seems to be working fine. I also did a Malware scan it said I was clean.

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stpaulbear Feb 9, 2021 • 6:03:50pm

re: #206 Belafon

Even though the original thread is old, this was in the thread:

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Here’s the story: abc7news.com

Her gofundme is linked in the story, which raised $80k of the $75k she asked for. But we should make it so that this story doesn’t have to happen.

That’s why I hate secret santa videos so much.

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danarchy Feb 9, 2021 • 6:09:44pm

re: #208 Dread Pirate Ron

Ok, I love dogs. Rather hang out with most dogs than their owners. But this is a little much. A little too saccharin for me, a picture of Champ by the fire would have been fine.

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 6:10:59pm

Rachel reporting that one of Trump’s new lawyers called him a “fucking crook.”

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 6:11:59pm

re: #212 No Malarkey!

Bruce Castor shooting off his mouth again?

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No Malarkey! Feb 9, 2021 • 6:13:27pm

re: #213 PhillyPretzel

Bruce Castor shooting off his mouth again?

Van der Veen. Who also sued Trump last year.

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austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 6:13:53pm

re: #207 stpaulbear

They have to meet with republicans in pairs in case they later need to verify what was actually said by republicans in the meeting.

The AF had a similar policy when anyone went anywhere near a Nuke, which was called “No Lone”.

Anytime a weapon was inspected, moved, installed, or removed, two people watched the entire process so no one fucked with the Nuke.

Which just makes damn good sense.

There were failures, though. I remember a while back (12, 15 years?), a B-52H (I think out of Minot AFB in ND) flew a training mission that ended in Barksdale AFB in Shreveport. It was scheduled to carry two external sticks of six cruise missiles all without warheads, one under each wing.

When it landed at Barksdale, it was immediately noticed by the local Weapons Maintenance Squadron that one stick carried six missiles with live nukes, not blanks.

Big brouhaha. After an investigation, pretty much the entire Command Structure got replaced at Minot.

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PhillyPretzel Feb 9, 2021 • 6:14:06pm

re: #214 No Malarkey!

I am not surprised.

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A Mom Anon Feb 9, 2021 • 6:15:21pm

re: #211 danarchy

I’m just happy there are beautiful, well behaved GSDs in the White House. It’s so amazingly cool and normal.

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BlueSpotinAL Feb 9, 2021 • 6:15:32pm

re: #212 No Malarkey!

Rachel reporting that one of Trump’s new lawyers called him a “fucking crook.”

Fact Check:

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Nyet Feb 9, 2021 • 6:16:11pm

And Trump is the crook they’re fucking. /

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austin_blue Feb 9, 2021 • 6:21:36pm

re: #211 danarchy

Ok, I love dogs. Rather hang out with most dogs than their owners. But this is a little much. A little too saccharin for me, a picture of Champ by the fire would have been fine.

It’s not for you. It’s for the kids. I’m one cynical bastard, and it is saccharin, but hey, at least this WH *has* doggos.

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Decatur Deb Feb 9, 2021 • 6:26:43pm

re: #215 austin_blue

The AF had a similar policy when anyone went anywhere near a Nuke, which was called “No Lone”.

Anytime a weapon was inspected, moved, installed, or removed, two people watched the entire process so no one fucked with the Nuke.

Which just makes damn good sense.

…

The Army version, when we had nukes, was the “Two Man Rule”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Feb 9, 2021 • 6:28:25pm

[moved by me]

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Sherlock Hound Feb 9, 2021 • 6:29:46pm

re: #199 William Lewis

Just ask the poster where they served. Usually shuts them up because they hate admitting they’re little shits that never did.

I know this person. Widow of a veteran. Veteran-adjacent.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Feb 9, 2021 • 6:47:47pm

re: #215 austin_blue

The AF had a similar policy when anyone went anywhere near a Nuke, which was called “No Lone”.

Anytime a weapon was inspected, moved, installed, or removed, two people watched the entire process so no one fucked with the Nuke.

Which just makes damn good sense.

There were failures, though. I remember a while back (12, 15 years?), a B-52H (I think out of Minot AFB in ND) flew a training mission that ended in Barksdale AFB in Shreveport. It was scheduled to carry two external sticks of six cruise missiles all without warheads, one under each wing.

When it landed at Barksdale, it was immediately noticed by the local Weapons Maintenance Squadron that one stick carried six missiles with live nukes, not blanks.

Big brouhaha. After an investigation, pretty much the entire Command Structure got replaced at Minot.

Navy was the same when it came to nukes as well as crypto. TPI. Two Person Integrity. You had to have to two people present when it was removed from the safe to load and when it was destroyed (Thanks John Walker). My current employer has the same when it comes to controlled keys that give actual access to cash or processor boards that have JPs of $100.00K or more.

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John Hughes Feb 10, 2021 • 10:15:00am

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

Google translates that into English as “Urine”.

Spy Auto

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