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Thanos  Oct 7, 2022 • 4:35:45pm

Happy Friday and all that.

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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 4:44:36pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 4:54:54pm
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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 4:57:11pm

re: #1 Thanos

Happy Friday and all that etm..

FTFY

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 7, 2022 • 4:58:52pm

re: #1 Thanos

re: #4 Captain Ron

TGIF

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:00:02pm
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mmmirele  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:01:06pm

While looking at the story about the associate of Anna de (fake) Rothschild, I spied an article about credit cards in Canada.

Basically, the interchange providers (MasterCard and Visa, mostly) are paying $188 million CAD to settle a long running lawsuit regarding interchange processing (“swipe”) fees. The *other* thing that is coming out of this is that merchants in Canada can now tack on the cost of the swipe fees to consumers. Those can range up to 2.4 percent of the purchase. I’d note that for the average credit card reward program, the amount of the reward maxes out at 1 percent. Thus, it’s entirely likely that some people may switch to using their debit cards, which do not have swipe fees.

cbc.ca

I know, from my employer, that swipe fees are one way we make money. (Also interest, fees on various transactions such as wires, stock purchases, etc., etc.) I do not believe that merchants here in the USA can officially tack on the swipe fees as the cost of doing business, but instead finesse it (e.g., the different prices for gas, cash or credit). I do remember back in 2009 (*why yes just after the meltdown*) my employer talked about tacking on a fee for people who got cash back from using a debit card when making a purchase, which was something I did. At that point, I tucked my debit card into the zippered portion of my wallet so I would not be tempted to use it if they were going to do something as stupid as all that. It never happened but yeah, there was a LOT of resentment.

As to whether we’d see something like this in the USA…doubtful. Banks have a lot of power.

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SerialUpDinger  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:01:16pm

Shooting Star - Primula clevelandii

Happy Friday!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:02:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:08:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:11:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:13:21pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:13:40pm

re: #7 mmmirele

Have you heard of Kuto? Could they become a serious competitor?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:32:38pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:34:35pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:35:49pm

re: #15 Belafon

I have to laugh because it is how a lot of them feel.

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:39:15pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel

I have to laugh because it is how a lot of them feel.

Truer than it should be: and not really funny.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:42:41pm

re: #17 Jay C

Yes. I have a co-committee (for the first time in 20 years) and that is exactly how he puts it. I just keep quiet and and make non-committal sounds like hmm.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:44:23pm

Republicans are doing their absolute best to do the things C S Lewis warned about in Mere Christianity: growing excited the possibility of worse acts, crueler deeds revealed, because it makes their own faults and vices seem normal by comparison.

They’re accusing everyone else of total depravity because it makes their workaday depravity small and pedestrian by contrast.

There have to be ultraperverts out there because powerful men making their horniness everyone else’s business is just normal. There have to be secret super genocide plans because the existing plans to imprison people, make them labor, and let them die (with the occasional drone striked school bus) is just normal self-defense.

On and on.

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:47:04pm

Well, it’s ACL Fest down the street and The (ex-Dixie) Chicks are up on the Honda Stage at 8:00 local, so 15 minutes.

Since the Honda Stages faces east, they should come in loud and clear. We’ll just open the back door.

Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!

Ahhh, life in the ‘04.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:47:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 5:59:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:03:20pm
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No Malarkey!  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:06:02pm

Abortion legal in Ohio again, for now.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:07:55pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:12:13pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:21:17pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

I like the bit in the middle where he just kind of slips in that his boner is an axiom.

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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:22:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:24:18pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:34:07pm

Like we can’t look backwards at five centuries of erotic art and several thousands years of written porn and establish that, hey, what counts as attractive changes a whole fucking bunch.

I think the reason they’re so intent on insisting there’s a natural, normative “attractiveness” is not just that they view their preferences as immutable laws, but because if the thing is natural it cannot be inappropriate.

It’s another layer of the nonce/reactionary overlap. The bodies of others—particularly young people—should not belong to them, and desire as a person with power to consume such a body is a “normal” adult behavior. Mostly this is heteronormative—it’s okay to creep on girls because sexiness is Why Girls Are—but it’s not entirely…modern machismo can just never quite wash out the pederasty stains, whether from the Spartans or the Boy Scout founders.

Authoritarians inevitably (1) get really upset about unauthorized fucking, (2) do not constrain their own preferred form of fucking.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:50:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:50:38pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:56:36pm

Uvalde school district suspends its entire police department, and superintendent announces retirement plans

[…]

The district said decisions regarding the future of the department had been pending the results of two investigations, but it suspended the department’s activities Friday, citing “recent developments that have uncovered additional concerns with department operations.”

[…]

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ipsos  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:59:06pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

School districts should not have “entire police departments.”

Change my mind.

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A Cranky One  Oct 7, 2022 • 6:59:43pm

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A Cranky One  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:05:40pm
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Teukka  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:07:37pm

re: #15 Belafon

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gocomics.com

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:08:43pm

re: #34 ipsos

School districts should not have “entire police departments.”

Change my mind.

One of the individuals running for our school board this year said, “I think we need to have an armed guard patrolling the hallways. I strongly feel our kids will be safer if there is an armed presence in our school.” Needless to say, he did not get either of our votes.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:10:18pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:10:27pm
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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:18:29pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

🎵Feed me, Seymour,

Feed me all night long…🎵

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:21:35pm

re: #39 Belafon

Reload

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:23:11pm

re: #37 Teukka

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Just shut up and eat the pie, dude.

Really.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:26:23pm
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Cheechako  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:26:31pm

re: #7 mmmirele

cbc.ca
I do not believe that merchants here in the USA can officially tack on the swipe fees as the cost of doing business, but instead finesse it (e.g., the different prices for gas, cash or credit). I do remember back in 2009 (*why yes just after the meltdown*) my employer talked about tacking on a fee for people who got cash back from using a debit card when making a purchase, which was something I did. .

Our local Fred Meyers (Kroeger) charges a fee when you ask for cash back from a debit card purchase. IIRC it’s 2-3%.

Here the customer is doing the merchant a favor by converting cash in the till (which now doesn’t have to be counted or hauled to the bank) to an electric format. Good thing the credit union has a branch in the store.

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:28:49pm

Daily Trix
@DailyTrix
I can’t believe that none of this abortion stuff came up in the background check when Herschel started working as an FBI agent.
8:11 PM • Oct 7, 2022

Umm, well here’s the thing…

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:31:26pm
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Egregious Philbin  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:33:09pm

Went outside to smoke my favorite named strain “Where’s My Bike?”, looked up and saw the space station very bright across the sky. I’ve seen it dozens of times, so imagine my surprise when I looked it up on heavens-above.com, and it was Tiangong, the Chinese space station. Its had a lot of pieces added to it in the last year, yet I was surprised at how bright. (the ISS passed by about 30 minutes later, but clouds in that part of the sky)

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:34:34pm

Beto putting in the legwork, first in Houston this morning:

Then in Richardson (Dallas suburb) later:

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:39:52pm

And wouldn’t you know it, the wind switched around to the southeast and most of the volume is going into Rollingwood, a community of of 1 to 5 million dollar houses on the southwest side of the Colorado as it runs through west Austin.

They’ll complain about the noise and then feature it as a bonus when they sell. You can be part of the Live Music Capital of the World!

Fuckwits.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:42:11pm

Man with fragile ego and a gun:

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dat_said  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:44:55pm

So generous.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:44:58pm
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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:50:43pm

So, She Who Must be Obeyed is playing this gig on Sunday at 310 Second Street, immediately adjacent to the ACL studio (it’s basically the black box next door to the big audit).

3tenaustin.com

This is just a great show.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:56:46pm

re: #47 Belafon

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 7:57:19pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:09:34pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:16:03pm

I’m somewhat enjoying Chris Christi on Overtime tonight.

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Dangerman  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:18:35pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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I am so loving the gop and their evangelical wing twist into knots justifying this

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:21:59pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:30:54pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

She’s the queen of dad jokes

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:32:01pm

Hot air balloons turn into cold water balloons.

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:33:12pm

re: #52 dat_said

So generous.

I hope she loses by .1% over the threshold for a recount.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:34:21pm

re: #63 darthstar

I hope she loses by .1% over the threshold for a recount.

She’ll demand a precount.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:35:46pm
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mmmirele  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:40:16pm

Abortion is at least temporarily legal again in Arizona, as the Draconian *territorial era* (as in prior to 1912, dates to the 1860s)law has been stayed. The Arizona state court of appeals has said that Planned Parenthood has a likelihood of prevailing on the merits of taking ALL the laws re abortion into consideration, not just the one that was written 50 years before women got the right to vote.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:40:49pm

re: #2 Captain Ron

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Funny, that’s pretty much what NRA Barbie said aloud, so long as Repubs win the Senate:

In a clip flagged by @PatriotTakes, Loesch told her followers that winning back control of the Senate is the only thing that matters and that other moral considerations can be cast aside.

“I don’t care if Herschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles,” she said. “I want control of the Senate!”

Loesch went on to dismiss the significance of the Walker abortion claims in even starker terms.

“If the Daily Beast story is true, you’re telling me Walker used his money to reportedly pay some skank for an abortion, and [Sen. Raphael Warnock] wants to use all of our moneys to pay a whole bunch of skanks for abortions,” she said. “So, it doesn’t change anything for me!”

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:41:25pm

People who say Republicans would be happy to bring back slavery aren’t exaggerating.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:43:18pm

re: #68 jaunte

People who say Republicans would be happy to bring back slavery aren’t exaggerating.

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We’ve had Repubs argue aloud that child labor should be legal because it “teaches” kids.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:44:27pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Toddlers can get down into those narrow coal seams.

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mmmirele  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:52:05pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Have you heard of Kuto? Could they become a serious competitor?

I haven’t. It looks like it’s a payment processor that uses Plaid and Stripe, but still works through the banking system. If enough merchants adopted it, yeah, it could be a real challenge.

That said, there are limitations here in the USA on moving money around, even to pay for goods and services. We have a shitton of banking laws that are designed to keep money from being transferred through and out to Bad People (e.g., terrorist groups, drug cartels and you know, Vlad Putin and his cronies). I imagine that Kuto is required to work with those same laws, maybe not directly with the government but through the requirements of their payment processors Stripe and Plaid.

However, I’m reminded that there are millions, perhaps billions of people in the world moving money around by smartphone daily. I honestly don’t know how that works, or what acts as “bank”, say, in those transactions. It’s not something I’ve looked into.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 8:55:44pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

We’ve had Repubs argue aloud that child labor should be legal because it “teaches” kids.

As soon as a child takes a job, they get the vote. And keep it, so long as there’s no insurrection on their record.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:00:07pm

Hmmmm.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:02:39pm

re: #71 mmmirele

I haven’t used it because I don’t have the phone for it, but it caught my interest because it’s local, and because I hate credit cards the way I hate electric bicycles: with a basis in reason, but to excess beyond rationality.

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:04:38pm

I’ve been waiting for images like this for weeks. the bridge from Russia to Crimea finally got hit.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:06:19pm
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darthstar  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:07:12pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

Hmmmm.

Glory be…may they take the rail line down completely. I’ve been waiting for this day to come. Fuck Russia. Fuck Putin. Slava Ukraini.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:10:23pm

Someone might take a second to point out to Ron that the federal government hasn’t passed a minimum wage increase in over a decade, that any increase is always spread out over years so that the market can “adjust” (i.e. inflation can wipe out any gains), and that numerous states have already passed minimum wage increases up to twice what the federal minimum wage is without their local economies cratering.

In a sane society, we wouldn’t need laws to ban child labor, limit the work week to 40 hours, set a minimum wage, or criminalize forcing employees to work without pay. We passed laws to cover all those and more at the federal level because the “market” proved that when push came to shove, it was totally cool with imposing slavery upon the working class at the end of a gun.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:14:08pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:14:41pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

Hmmmm.

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darthstar  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:16:11pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

I could do that…wouldn’t look the same probably.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:16:19pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:18:12pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:19:12pm
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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:24:41pm
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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:25:53pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:29:45pm

That’s definitely not helpful to Russia, however it happened.

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A Cranky One  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:29:47pm

So a cistern carriage exploded on the bridge?

Guess the shit hit the span.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:31:06pm

re: #88 A Cranky One

So a cistern carriage exploded on the bridge?

Guess the shit hit the span.

The Russians trapped in Crimea now are definitely up shit creek.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:35:00pm

re: #85 Captain Ron

Those Russians really really don’t want to go back home.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:35:50pm

re: #68 jaunte

People who say Republicans would be happy to bring back slavery aren’t exaggerating.

They just want to bring the violence and coercion previously applied to the imperial periphery back to the imperial core.

If your base assumption is that most Americans aren’t real Americans, then it follows that the Not Real Americans should be treated as subjects without franchise. This is what the Tories did when they lost their empire: contract the zone of Britishness, strip away the benefits, while blaming the people they were disenfranchising for their lack of character.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:36:23pm

re: #85 Captain Ron

Yeah, this looks like part of the road span has suffered some catastrophic damage, to the point that’s almost certainly unusable (BTW, I’m no engineer, but this looks bad to my layman’s eyes):

A little belated birthday gift for Putin 😄

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:37:05pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

The Russians trapped in Crimea now are definitely up shit creek.

still direct road access to Russia, just has to drive through area within Ukrainian artillery range

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:38:50pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:39:42pm

Given the reports that there were rail cars on the line when the attack happened, even if the rail portion doesn’t collapse and the rails aren’t significantly damaged, it’s still going to take time to clear the wreckage. So I guess we won’t be seeing any new “Russia bringing in reinforcements” propaganda videos for a few days.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:44:20pm

re: #94 jaunte

Holy shit, a segment of the road span collapsed. Bet the Russians cheaped out on construction materials in order to get the bridge built quick, or possibly they didn’t engineer it to withstand a serious accident.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:46:02pm

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

Ukraine does have Navy divers.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:49:14pm

re: #97 jaunte

Ukraine does have Navy divers.

Yeah, could well be a Ukrainian Special Forces operation. In any event, Putin’s gonna be apoplectic.

His failure is now almost complete.

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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:51:31pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2022 • 9:55:05pm

Here’s the science numbers:

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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:00:44pm

re: #100 Belafon

It looks like the other roadway is sagging at the far end of the gap in the left side.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:02:05pm

Basically this bridge is unusable to road traffic and the rail portion may very well be gone as well. Which leaves the only routes into Crimea either through Ukrainian territory or subject to possible attack by the AFU.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:02:53pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

or ship

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:03:07pm

re: #100 Belafon

Here’s the science numbers:

Except the portion of the bridge on fire (rail bridge) has not fallen. The vehicle bridge suffered the section collapses, and it is in no way connected to the rail bridge

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:05:43pm

re: #103 retired cynic

or ship

Falls under “subject to possible attack.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:07:31pm

The Democrats really need to play up the GOP proposals to undermine Social Security and Medicare — they need a full on ad assault, death panels x 10, just as the GOP does against against any proposals promoted by Democrats. They need to make clear that the GOP is taking away choice, is taking away health care and income from the elderly, and a double bonus for devising commercials that tie gun violence to GOP irresponsibility in promoting weaponry for everyone.

Bill Maher still seems to believe that our problems are due to our citizens living in silos and not communicating with each other — that somehow we must all learn to listen to the other side and talk our way through this. Too many Americans somehow believe that we are either headed to civil war or that we can split our country in two. Maher showed a clip from Gandhi, on the one time in history where that did happen — where there was mass relocation of the Hindus and Muslims to separate states. This seems like neither a realistic nor desirable solution. At least panelist Katty Kay was vehement that neither fascism nor socialism was in our future. Let’s hope that we can muddle our way through this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:08:18pm

re: #97 jaunte

Ukraine does have Navy divers.

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, could well be a Ukrainian Special Forces operation. In any event, Putin’s gonna be apoplectic.

His failure is now almost complete.

Divers could not deliver enough explosive to drop the vehicle road surface sections

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:14:20pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Whatever caused this extent of damage would have to be significant:

I don’t think they’re gonna be able to just patch that up with a little rebar and concrete.

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:14:37pm

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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:21:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:22:43pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Whatever caused this extent of damage would have to be significant:

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I don’t think they’re gonna be able to just patch that up with a little rebar and concrete.

Wonder Nyet’s take on this. Are RT and the Russian networks discussing this “attack” and its impact?

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:22:56pm

re: #106 Hecuba’s daughter

The Democrats really need to play up the GOP proposals to undermine Social Security and Medicare — they need a full on ad assault, death panels x 10, just as the GOP does against against any proposals promoted by Democrats. They need to make clear that the GOP is taking away choice, is taking away health care and income from the elderly, and a double bonus for devising commercials that tie gun violence to GOP irresponsibility in promoting weaponry for everyone.

Bill Maher still seems to believe that our problems are due to our citizens living in silos and not communicating with each other — that somehow we must all learn to listen to the other side and talk our way through this. Too many Americans somehow believe that we are either headed to civil war or that we can split our country in two. Maher showed a clip from Gandhi, on the one time in history where that did happen — where there was mass relocation of the Hindus and Muslims to separate states. This seems like neither a realistic nor desirable solution. At least panelist Katty Kay was vehement that neither fascism nor socialism was in our future. Let’s hope that we can muddle our way through this.

Peckerheads like Maher are why Dems sounding the alarm have no effect. When they make a lot of noise about how Repubs are screwing this nation over without lube, he gets up on his soapbox and declares that they’re being “partisan” and that they’re the cause for national disunity. And when Dems scale back and talk words like “bipartisan,” he snarks that their “weakness” is why guys like Trump get elected.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:25:40pm

Because your feces matter, DW did a documentary:

Youtube Video


..

It’s one of their better documentaries of late.

But because one of the topics is Bill Gates, the loons are out in the comments ranting conspiracies.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:26:01pm

re: #110 Captain Ron

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The end of the manned fighter has been predicted about as often as commercial fusion.

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Jay C  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:29:34pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Whatever caused this extent of damage would have to be significant:

I don’t think they’re gonna be able to just patch that up with a little rebar and concrete.

Carlo Graziani, (subbing for Adam Silverman) posted on this very subject at Balloon Juice two days ago. He pointed out that Russian forces in theater are heavily dependent on rail transport: and that interdiction of same is a main objective for the UA. But also, that road/rail bridges (usually a weak point) are not all that easy to put out if action. And that the Ukrainians had not, to date, had a lot of success (even with their best artillery/missiles) destroying them to the point of unusability. Looks like they’ve stepped up their game, though….

ETA: of course (because Russian), this could be an accident of some sort. Either way, choosing that strait without a boat is going to be a big problem for a while.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:32:44pm

A little something creepy for the month of Halloween:

The Backrooms (Found Footage)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:35:57pm

Looks like the Russians will have to evacuate their civilians the old-fashioned way.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:40:46pm

Panicked this evening at dinner when people were discussing bills and real estate. I suddenly realized that I had no recollection of paying property taxes this summer and was too embarrassed to mention it. When I finally returned home, I logged on to the payment system — and saw an announcement that they hadn’t sent the bill yet and didn’t know when it would be issued. That was certainly a shock!

……..
Wording — Haven’t had a 3 for awhile.

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:41:19pm

So, what flows between the two parts of the bridge now should be called … Crimea river.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:42:53pm

re: #119 Nyet

So, what flows between the two parts of the bridge now should be called … Crimea river.

Looks like a segment of the Kerch Bridge has been promoted to Kerch boat ramp.

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Nyet  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:44:18pm

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Looks like a segment of the Kerch Bridge has been promoted to Kerch boat ramp.

It retired as a submarine.

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mmmirele  Oct 7, 2022 • 10:53:02pm

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:09:56pm

re: #115 Jay C

Carlo Graziani, (subbing for Adam Silverman) posted on this very subject at Balloon Juice two days ago. He pointed out that Russian forces in theater are heavily dependent on rail transport: and that interdiction of same is a main objective for the UA. But also, that road/rail bridges (usually a weak point) are not all that easy to put out if action. And that the Ukrainians had not, to date, had a lot of success (even with their best artillery/missiles) destroying them to the point of unusability. Looks like they’ve stepped up their game, though….

Not really surprising, as we’ve seen numerous pictures of Russian transport trucks either buried in the mud or handicapped by cheap Chinese tires, while the failure of the Russian Air Force to establish air supremacy means any attempt to bring in troops and equipment by transport plane runs a better than even risk of ending in a big fireball.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:10:14pm

re: #44 jaunte

I can’t believe that none of this abortion stuff came up in the background check when Herschel started working as an FBI agent.

All part of a Deep State plot to make the GOP look hypocritical and irresponsible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:14:40pm

re: #88 A Cranky One

So a cistern carriage exploded on the bridge?

Guess the shit hit the span.

Brethren and cistern!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:17:18pm

re: #68 jaunte

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) compares the federal minimum wage to price fixing:

“I really don’t like the federal government getting involved in doing price fixing… that includes wages… Have the marketplace take care of it rather than government set a minimum wage.”

It is the fetishization of the ideology of the Free Market as some Divine State that we should aspire to by cleansing ourselves of all traces of Government regulation of trade and commerce.

The market is a great way to balance supply and demand or to direct flows of capital to where they can do the most benefit.

But basic human needs should have precedent over the market, and humans need a certain minimum income to survive. the Free Market does not care about human health, safety or basic human requirements.

Even Adam Smith reminds us that Markets are a human institution, one that should benefit all participants: employers and employees, producers and consumers, lenders and borrowers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:17:55pm

Charles,

Very odd — when I click to see my most recent comments, the list excludes those from the current thread. This also happened to me a couple days. A bug?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:20:39pm

re: #119 Nyet

So, what flows between the two parts of the bridge now should be called … Crimea river.

Crimean Punishment

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:21:14pm

re: #128 Hecuba’s daughter

Charles,

Very odd — when I click to see my most recent comments, the list excludes those from the current thread. This also happened to me a couple days. A bug?

Deep State plot.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:25:00pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:29:30pm

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

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“Industrial accident.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:33:37pm

Deep State plot

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:35:12pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:37:50pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If indeed the Ukrainians succeeded in making the Kerch Bridge unusable, then I can well imagine the average Russian living in Crimea has got to be shitting themselves right now and most likely packing up and getting the hell out of there. Only problem they’ll have is that to evacuate back to Russia proper, I’m pretty sure they’re going to have to drive through a war zone.

Yeesh.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:42:23pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

If indeed the Ukrainians succeeded in making the Kerch Bridge unusable, then I can well imagine the average Russian living in Crimea has got to be shitting themselves right now and most likely packing up and getting the hell out of there. Only problem they’ll have is that to evacuate back to Russia proper, I’m pretty sure they’re going to have to drive through a war zone.

Yeesh.

The occupational authorities claim that a ferry service is being revived, so there (supposedly) will be an alternative to overland travel out of Crimea, but the bottlenecks will still mean getting out will be an absolute clusterfark that will only further hamper efforts to hold onto Southern Ukraine.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:42:36pm

Now this is some god-tier trolling:

A senior Ukrainian military official did not deny that Ukrainian forces were behind the attack but would not confirm it.

“All I can say is that an echelon with fuel intended to supply occupation forces in the south of Ukraine was passing over the bridge from Krasnodar Krai,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he did not have permission to speak to the news media.

The official added: “Putin should be happy. Not everyone gets such an expensive present on their birthday.”

nytimes.com

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Captain Ron  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:49:01pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:57:52pm

re: #119 Nyet

So, what flows between the two parts of the bridge now should be called … Crimea river.

What’s the Russian for THWACK?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2022 • 11:59:20pm

re: #138 Captain Ron

That looks like a missile strike. But what the hell kind of missiles do the Ukrainians have that could do that kind of damage?

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:01:35am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:02:49am

re: #139 Grunthos the Flatulent

What’s the Russian for THWACK?

For example, *БАМ*. Then again, it also fits what happened to the Crimean tunnel.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:04:27am

re: #138 Captain Ron

Hmm. The video bears the “watermark” of Pozdnyakov, apparently that terrorist from the “Male State”.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:08:00am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:09:58am

Pontonus Collapsus!

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:11:46am

Good thread on the immediate effects on the war situation:

tl;dr: Resupply to Crimea isn’t stopped, but it makes overland routes more important to hold, which probably means further Russian “redeployments.”

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:12:29am

Yet another angle.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:13:02am

re: #147 Nyet

Looks like it might have been that truck that exploded?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:14:57am

Kerch-22?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:15:15am

re: #148 Nyet

Looks like it might have been that truck that exploded?

That truck would’ve had to be carrying something highly destructive. It sure as hell wasn’t carrying margarine and yogurt.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:16:25am
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ericblair  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:18:38am

re: #148 Nyet

Looks like it might have been that truck that exploded?

That’s what I’m thinking, and it looks like the truck went boom just as fuel tankers were passing on the rail line.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:18:40am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:19:52am

re: #152 ericblair

That’s what I’m thinking, and it looks like the truck went boom just as fuel tankers were passing on the rail line.

If so, an excellent operation.

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ericblair  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:20:19am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:22:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:23:55am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:32:36am

Re: yesterday’s topic.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:48:09am
Occupation authorities impose rationing on grocery sales in Crimea

liveuamap.com

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ericblair  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:49:22am

Some possibility it may have been a drone boat. I don’t vouch for any of this stuff, though.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:49:36am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

liveuamap.com

Things should get truly interesting once food supplies for the local occupying forces run low…

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:51:26am

re: #162 ericblair

Official version is a truck explosion now.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:51:35am

re: #163 Targetpractice

Things should get truly interesting once food supplies for the local occupying forces run low…

“When the food runs out, at least we’ll have each other.”

- Hannibal Lecter

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:52:55am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

Occupation authorities impose rationing on grocery sales in Crimea

Crimeat rationing

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:53:11am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

“When the food runs out, at least we’ll have each other.”

- Hannibal Lecter

I mean, that guy from a few days ago, with the nickname Cannibal, only lost 16 soldiers out of 23. Must have been tasty ones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2022 • 12:55:22am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

“When the food runs out, at least we’ll have each other.”

- Hannibal Lecter

“The baby didn’t die until we’d burned up all our wood. Considering we ate her raw, she tasted pretty good…”

National Lampoon Lemmings - “Colorado”

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:03:35am

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

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Yeah, that’s the big reality of the current situation, that it doesn’t matter what took out the bridge, what matters is that the Russians in Crimea are now reliant upon unreliable lines of transport that could be cut off if the AFU decide to make a serious push into the south. Before now, they could be reassured that even if such lines were cut off, they could still be resupplied via the Kerch railway. But with that cut off, it’s not going to take much for Ukraine to isolate Crimea.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:08:19am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:08:59am

re: #169 Targetpractice

Yeah, that’s the big reality of the current situation, that it doesn’t matter what took out the bridge, what matters is that the Russians in Crimea are now reliant upon unreliable lines of transport that could be cut off if the AFU decide to make a serious push into the south. Before now, they could be reassured that even if such lines were cut off, they could still be resupplied via the Kerch railway. But with that cut off, it’s not going to take much for Ukraine to isolate Crimea.

Yeah, this threw a major monkeywrench into Russia’s logistics.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:10:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:10:41am

re: #170 Nyet

Reserves for two weeks? At the rate they’re lining up to tank up, they’ll be lucky to make it until next Wednesday.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:13:22am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:25:39am

NO PANIC!!

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:37:48am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

NO PANIC!!

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Does anybody really believe that the people sitting in those gas lines don’t have their trunks/truck beds/back seats/etc filled with fuel cans in anticipation that the limited supplies are gonna go quick? I pity the poor bastards that have to go out to the first people in line and tell them that they can only fuel their car, they can’t fill any containers because the authorities fear that fuel will end up on the black market.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:45:43am

The best so far.

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ericblair  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:49:46am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

Reserves for two weeks? At the rate they’re lining up to tank up, they’ll be lucky to make it until next Wednesday.

When the Kremlin tells you not to panic, that’s an excellent time to start panicking.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 1:50:41am

These two recently released an album:

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:01:58am

Ukrainian Pravda source says it’s an SBU op.

pravda.com.ua

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:05:04am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

NO PANIC!!

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So apparently “agiotage” was a bit of fat-fingering and was meant to be “shortage,” but the overall message is still pretty much the same: There’s 15 days of gas and diesel at “normal” usage rates, but if people start hoarding then it will lead to an “artificial” shortage. Which means that things in Crimea are about to come to a halt as people who don’t immediately bug out sit on what fuel they have in anticipation of doing so.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:12:03am

re: #181 Targetpractice

So apparently “agiotage” was a bit of fat-fingering and was meant to be “shortage,” but the overall message is still pretty much the same: There’s 15 days of gas and diesel at “normal” usage rates, but if people start hoarding then it will lead to an “artificial” shortage. Which means that things in Crimea are about to come to a halt as people who don’t immediately bug out sit on what fuel they have in anticipation of doing so.

Which, fair enough, is entirely true. We’ve all seen this sort of thing before, from pretty much all corners of the globe. On one hand, given the circumstances, fuel rationing makes sense because as you said, things will come to a halt pretty quick if everyone starts hoarding gasoline and diesel.

Basically, they need to get out while they still can. And that’s now considerably more difficult. Who knows how long it’ll be until, at minimum, train service is restored across the Kerch Bridge? And as far as that goes, I sure as hell wouldn’t be looking forward to traveling across that damaged section of the rail bridge - there could be considerable hidden damage there.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:23:34am

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

Which, fair enough, is entirely true. We’ve all seen this sort of thing before, from pretty much all corners of the globe. On one hand, given the circumstances, fuel rationing makes sense because as you said, things will come to a halt pretty quick if everyone starts hoarding gasoline and diesel.

Basically, they need to get out while they still can. And that’s now considerably more difficult. Who knows how long it’ll be until, at minimum, train service is restored across the Kerch Bridge? And as far as that goes, I sure as hell wouldn’t looking forward to traveling across that damaged section of the rail bridge - there could be considerable hidden damage there.

It’s the sort of assurances you’d expect in the aftermath of a major disaster, the government trying to prevent panic and manage public morale by offering assurances that any shortages will be temporary and “normal” service restored before long. But if you’re living in Sevastopol, the question on your mind when told that there’s enough fuel for 15 days is “What happens in 16 days?”

It’s an empty promise from the Kremlin that they can get regular deliveries going again in 2 weeks or less, something that is not going to do much to reassure people who were being told as recently as yesterday that the war would never threaten them personally and that Moscow was doing everything possible to ensure their safety.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:29:27am

re: #181 Targetpractice

I just assumed that “agiotage” was correct and that the residents in that area were trading gasoline on a makeshift trading market.

Every household a company, every product a can of gasoline.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:30:24am

Overnight music:

Youtube Video

..

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:30:39am

Sevastopol governor lifts the buying restrictions he himself introduced an hour ago.

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Teukka  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:37:16am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:42:42am

Allegedly the truck.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:43:30am

re: #188 Nyet

Also.

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Teukka  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:45:33am

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:46:56am

re: #181 Targetpractice

So apparently “agiotage” was a bit of fat-fingering and was meant to be “shortage,” […]

Maybe not. merriam-webster.com

Definition of agiotage
1 : speculative buying or selling of stocks :

Could be referring to scalping.

Edit: and Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus handily beat me to it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:48:10am

re: #186 Nyet

Sevastopol governor lifts the buying restrictions he himself introduced an hour ago.

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Probably got a very unkind call from the Kremlin. This whole situation has the feel of the latter stages of WWII, when the realities of the war began to come to roost in a Germany that had been assured every day for years that the war was being won and there was no need for rationing because the nation’s bounty was plentiful enough to support the war without asking the average German citizen to suffer. Even as the war effort began to sputter and the manufacturers began to cry from dwindling supplies, Hitler insisted upon avoiding rationing to prevent public sentiment from turning against the war and against him.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:49:55am

re: #191 Grunthos the Flatulent

Maybe not. merriam-webster.com

Could be referring to scalping.

Ажиотаж means increased demand due to the situation (or rumors etc.) in this case.

ru.wiktionary.org

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:55:25am

Allegedly 1,3 km of the railroad have been damaged.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 2:56:31am

re: #194 Nyet

Though not sure about the mechanics of the alleged damage here.

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:01:13am

re: #72 wrenchwench

As soon as a child takes a job, they get the vote. And keep it, so long as there’s no insurrection on their record.

If the “unborn” have rights, why don’t the children who work the fields to put food on your table?

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:05:51am

re: #84 Belafon

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This is not only a stunningly ignorant thing to say, it doesn’t even make any sense.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:09:13am

When does Putin get desperate enough to use a nuke?

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:10:26am

re: #198 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

When does Putin get desperate enough to use a nuke?

Who cares, won’t help him.

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:10:52am

re: #100 Belafon

Here’s the science numbers:

So the wtc did collapse, didn’t collapse?
It was an inside job, no it was a hoax?

Oh sorry. Wrong thread //

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:13:03am

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Divers could not deliver enough explosive to drop the vehicle road surface sections

What is the water speed of a laden diver?

Wrong thread again?

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:13:28am

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Whatever caused this extent of damage would have to be significant:

[Embedded content]

I don’t think they’re gonna be able to just patch that up with a little rebar and concrete.

Bondo

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Cheechako  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:14:52am

re: #202 Dangerman

Bondo

And duck tape

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:17:17am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can’t believe that none of this abortion stuff came up in the background check when Herschel started working as an FBI agent.

All part of a Deep State plot to make the GOP look hypocritical and irresponsible.

Forget the fbi joke part, apparently his staff did know

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:17:41am

Sure, why not blame the Federal Reserve, they are after all the most important player when it comes to monetary policy.

But playing the blame game is a fool’s game.

The reality with which we all must accomodate (sooner or later) is that we’re moving into intense global competition for resources, which drives inflation, and that in turn triggers entities like the Fed who are programmed to fight inflation (to protect money.)

Now, I object to calling 2.3% growth by the term “recession”. It’s all part of a word game being played on the big stage.

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TarHellion  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:22:51am

Thought for sure the birbie was going in - only to have too much pace and forcing the need to make a tester for the par. Got the all clear from the physical therapist to resume hitting golf balls. With temps in upper 60s today, will head to the range and take some easy swings. A fantabulous weekend to all the folks who make this such a wonderful community!

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:23:59am

re: #148 Nyet

Looks like it might have been that truck that exploded?

Nevermind I Misunderstood

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:28:55am

There’s a propaganda war going on, for the minds of Americans and those in the rest of the developed world.

And it’s not about Ukraine (though it is also sort of about Ukraine.)

The unwillingness of people, individually and corporately (i.e., nations), to accept that growth can not go on forever is profoundly stubborn.

Just look at the commonly stated idea that anything less than 2.5% growth is a recession.

Now “growth” itself is just a word game, a battle to use a word that people think has to be a positive, a benefit, a good thing.

But any numerate individual will recognize, if they allow themselves, that exponential growth (which is what a the annual positive percent number represents) soon gets to where the absolute value of the quantity in question becomes astronomical.

Call me a doomer, but decline, decrease, and finally decease, is the way of life on this planet just as much as “growth”.

But no politician, and no economist who wants a paycheck from an institution, dare declare that decline ought to be seen as an essential part of the economy.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:31:59am

re: #190 Teukka

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Video

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:34:32am

The previous rumor about the mass evacuation of children from Kherson was not “the real deal”, but this one, about the evacuation of children with their parents from the whole region, is.

ria.ru

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:44:21am

Alla Pugachyova, the queen of the Russian pop, who has recently moved to Israel with her husband and has expressed veiled but transparent criticism of the war, here back in 1986, in Chernobyl, singing for the “liquidators” (many of them dead men walking).

(Dancing on the stage with her is Boris Moiseev, who died last week, probably the first Russian artist to come out later.)

Алла Пугачева - Встречи в Чернобыле (8.09.1986 г.)

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:46:04am

re: #66 mmmirele

Abortion is at least temporarily legal again in Arizona, as the Draconian *territorial era* (as in prior to 1912, dates to the 1860s)law has been stayed. The Arizona state court of appeals has said that Planned Parenthood has a likelihood of prevailing on the merits of taking ALL the laws re abortion into consideration, not just the one that was written 50 years before women got the right to vote.

A court in Ohio also enjoined Ohio’s six week abortion ban.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:48:54am

Holy hell, just checked annuity rates on the MUSL… and it jumped by more than I’ve seen it jump before.

Up a half a point in a single bounce.

Usually it goes up by hundredths or a tenth of a point.

Annuity underwriters must think that interest rates are going to stay high for a while.

The Fed rates do drive this. But so do the returns on commercial paper and Treasuries.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:51:43am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:54:27am

re: #214 No Malarkey!

As usual, the RMoD claims everything is just dandy.

“Обеспечение российской группировки войск, задействованной в специальной военной операции на Николаево-Криворожском и Запорожском операционных направлениях, осуществляется непрерывно в полном объеме по сухопутному коридору и частично — морским транспортом”

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:54:54am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:57:45am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 3:58:16am

Allegedly a previous owner of the truck (not necessarily having to do with the event).

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 4:15:14am

This is simply Putin getting his long-awaited Nobel prize.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 4:37:18am

“I’ll take ‘Shockingly Bad Ideas’ for $1,000, Alex”….

I really don’t think the Russians have carried out a proper inspection to determine if there’s been hidden structural damage to the rail bridge.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 4:59:53am

lol

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steve_davis  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:02:21am

re: #67 Targetpractice

Funny, that’s pretty much what NRA Barbie said aloud, so long as Repubs win the Senate:

“I don’t care if Herschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles,” she said. “I want control of the Senate!”

But of course he didn’t, honey. He paid to murder his precious, precious unborn child. Isn’t that how it goes?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:05:59am

On Captain Kangaroo:

Good Morning, Captain


..

I do remember watching the show when I was young, but also that I didn’t watch it much. Maybe for a year or two, but after that I don’t remember it being that interesting to me.

Still, children’s TV had its day and the Captain was certainly important. Our expectations of TV have changed and I don’t know what 3-7 year olds watch today, perhaps the Disney channel?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:09:18am
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jeffreyw  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:10:13am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:18:21am

re: #223 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

On Captain Kangaroo:

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..

I do remember watching the show when I was young, but also that I didn’t watch it much. Maybe for a year or two, but after that I don’t remember it being that interesting to me.

Still, children’s TV had its day and the Captain was certainly important. Our expectations of TV have changed and I don’t know what 3-7 year olds watch today, perhaps the Disney channel?

There are several Disney and Nickelodeon channels, and the cartoon network

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:23:14am

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

Hope Ukraine targets it again.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:28:20am

Putin shouldn’t have waited until the only card he has left to play is threatening nuclear war.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:38:42am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:40:20am

Remember monkeypox?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:45:53am

re: #226 No Malarkey!

There are several Disney and Nickelodeon channels, and the cartoon network

Yes, but what kind of shows do the young children watch? Has modern TV production methods fundamentally changed the content?

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:49:06am
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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:50:51am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:51:48am

Is this Russia’s Navarro?

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:55:54am

re: #222 steve_davis

“I don’t care if Herschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles,” she said. “I want control of the Senate!”

But of course he didn’t, honey. He paid to murder his precious, precious unborn child. Isn’t that how it goes?

Because it was an inconvenient time for him.

And it was not a one and done.
He tried to get her to do it again when she got pregnant again

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Nojay UK  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:55:59am

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

Militaries are very good at repairing railways damaged in war, precisely because they play an important part in logistics. The Second Treasonous Slaveholder’s Rebellion in the 1860s proved that many times.

I’d not be surprised to see at least some rail traffic re-established across the Crimean bridge quite quickly, if not full-load trains and perhaps with traffic limitations. The roadway damage, although spectacular is, paradoxically, less of an issue. The other roadway span doesn’t seem to be damaged and some kind of two-way traffic flow on that span can probably be established while bridging equipment is brought in to provide a temporary fix for the downed section. It’s still going to hurt.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:56:10am

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

Is this Russia’s Navarro?

More than seven months into the “special military operation”, with their key route into Crimea now destroyed, maybe it’s about time for them to start, maybe?

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:57:51am

re: #231 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, but what kind of shows do the young children watch? Has modern TV production methods fundamentally changed the content?

Kids are on their ipads shorting stocks

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 5:58:47am

re: #232 darthstar

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One minute!

Though you did it in the original latin

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:00:34am

And in the important news of the day, it is confirmed

Lizzo lives in the pond behind some rocks

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:03:19am

re: #241 Dangerman

And in the important news of the day, it is confirmed

Lizzo lives in the pond behind some rocks

“Pretty sneaky, sis.”

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ericblair  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:04:36am

re: #237 Nojay UK

Militaries are very good at repairing railways damaged in war, precisely because they play an important part in logistics. The Second Treasonous Slaveholder’s Rebellion in the 1860s proved that many times.

I’d not be surprised to see at least some rail traffic re-established across the Crimean bridge quite quickly, if not full-load trains and perhaps with traffic limitations. The roadway damage, although spectacular is, paradoxically, less of an issue. The other roadway span doesn’t seem to be damaged and some kind of two-way traffic flow on that span can probably be established while bridging equipment is brought in to provide a temporary fix for the downed section. It’s still going to hurt.

Until the next attack on the bridge.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:05:28am

This is the best video so far.

The bridge won’t collapse…(4 seconds later)…fucking mother of god stop right here.

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:07:56am
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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:15:39am
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:16:00am

re: #240 Dangerman

One minute!

Though you did it in the original latin

So it was impossible to attack…that can only mean sabotage.

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:16:31am
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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:17:59am
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Teukka  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:18:29am

*tehee*

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:19:33am
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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:20:26am

re: #247 darthstar

So it was impossible to attack…that can only mean sabotage.

Truck bomb/inside info coordinating with train schedule is getting a lot of play

Then there’s this

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:23:38am

dracarys

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:23:46am

re: #241 Dangerman

And in the important news of the day, it is confirmed

Lizzo lives in the pond behind some rocks

marlon grabbed a good sized comet goldfish this morning

i was sad

mrsdm asked ‘did he eat it’

i said so we condemn senseless murder but we’re cool with ‘cannibalism’?

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:27:06am
COVID truthers in the UK, led by hardline “sovereign citizens,” are trying to set up separatist rural collectives to break away from what they see as the corrupting influence of mainstream society and the government.

The initiatives have emerged from the UK’s volatile COVID conspiracist scene, which mobilised during the pandemic to oppose lockdowns and coronavirus vaccinations, and has become increasingly radicalised.

Experts say the separatist projects are a concerning but predictable evolution of a movement whose paranoid, conspiracist ideology makes it deeply suspicious of the government and other institutions, and has driven a wedge between many COVID truthers and their families and friends.

‘Recipe for Disaster’: COVID Truthers Want To Set Up Separatist Collectives (Vice)

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:32:07am
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Belafon  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:36:40am

re: #231 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, but what kind of shows do the young children watch? Has modern TV production methods fundamentally changed the content?

It depends on exactly what you’re asking. A number of shows are life-lesson type shows: here’s a situation, here’s a way to feel with it (bullies, sadness, other kinds of problems). Others, like Blue’s Clues and Dora, are solving problems that require you to figure out how hints work together. Others teach vocabulary and math.

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jeffreyw  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:38:45am

re: #254 Dangerman

marlon grabbed a good sized comet goldfish this morning

i was sad

mrsdm asked ‘did he eat it’

i said so we condemn senseless murder but we’re cool with ‘cannibalism’?

We had a small goldfish pond in a garden near the patio a while back. One day Mrs J rushed in crying “There’s a snake with a fish in his mouth and it’s freaking out!”
I said, “I bet it is!”

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:41:46am

re: #95 Targetpractice

Given the reports that there were rail cars on the line when the attack happened, even if the rail portion doesn’t collapse and the rails aren’t significantly damaged, it’s still going to take time to clear the wreckage. So I guess we won’t be seeing any new “Russia bringing in reinforcements” propaganda videos for a few days.

High temp fires + Reinforced concrete = Bad times.
That section is ruined.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:42:29am

Also, holy shit that explosion.
Good morning.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:45:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:57:24am

re: #261 No Malarkey!

You know….I can’t help but wonder if Putin is quietly asking himself some questions about the reliability of his nuclear arsenal. I mean, if I was in his shoes, and looking at the clown show that’s been going on, I’d be muttering, “Fuck” under my breath to myself.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 6:59:53am

re: #262 Dr Lizardo

You know….I can’t help but wonder if Putin is quietly asking himself some questions about the reliability of his nuclear arsenal. I mean, if I was in his shoes, and looking at the clown show that’s been going on, I’d be muttering, “Fuck” under my breath to myself.

Last I checked the US spends ~50ish+ billion a year on nuclear weapons maintenance. Can’t imagine what Russia’s is and what’s been siphoned off.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:00:08am

Good wide-angle photo of the damage to the Kerch Bridge taken earlier today:

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:02:44am

re: #263 Varek Raith

Last I checked the US spends ~50ish+ billion a year on nuclear weapons maintenance. Can’t imagine what Russia’s is and what’s been siphoned off.

Russia’s military budget is ~$66 billion USD, or it was for 2021. How much of that is outright lost to corruption is anyone’s guess.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:06:01am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

Lost to corruption $67 billion.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:06:30am

The best thing about this is most didn’t expect the Ukrainian special services, as good as they are, could conduct such precision ops deep in the occupied territories. I wonder what’s next.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:08:08am

re: #267 Nyet

The best thing about this is most didn’t expect the Ukrainian special services, as good as they are, could conduct such precision ops deep in the occupied territories. I wonder what’s next.

Maybe they flipped a dolphin.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:08:42am
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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:12:55am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:13:03am

re: #267 Nyet

The best thing about this is most didn’t expect the Ukrainian special services, as good as they are, could conduct such precision ops deep in the occupied territories. I wonder what’s next.

Its remarkable how important fighting for a cause people believe in is. In seven months, with Western aid, Ukraine has built one of the most formidable armies in the world. In contrast, despite having 20 years and near limitless resources from the US, the Afghan army collapsed overnight. There is a lesson there.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:14:10am

re: #268 Barefoot Grin

Maybe they flipped a dolphin.

Flipper?

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:17:03am

Taiwan could probably get guarantees of local autonomy, which worked out so well for Hong Kong./

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:19:44am

re: #262 Dr Lizardo

You know….I can’t help but wonder if Putin is quietly asking himself some questions about the reliability of his nuclear arsenal. I mean, if I was in his shoes, and looking at the clown show that’s been going on, I’d be muttering, “Fuck” under my breath to myself.

imo and based on nothing
putin can order a nuclear strike of any kind, big, small, tactical.
but he can’t do it alone
there’s enough other people in the chain that it would not be carried out.

the one rule about nukes, and everybody knows it, is that established nations never use them.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:19:45am

re: #273 No Malarkey!

Taiwan could probably get guarantees of local autonomy, which worked out so well for Hong Kong./

Infinite facepalm.

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:20:22am

re: #268 Barefoot Grin

Maybe they flipped a dolphin.

on porpoise?

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Dangerman  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:21:41am

re: #276 Dangerman

on porpoise?

c’mon, it was a grapefruit pitch

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:23:11am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

Russia’s military budget is ~$66 billion USD, or it was for 2021. How much of that is outright lost to corruption is anyone’s guess.

Slepakov described the process many years ago (turn on the auto-translate of the Russian subs - not of the autogenerated ones though, but of the embedded ones).

Семён Слепаков: Песня российского чиновника

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:26:43am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:28:25am

Anyone gone to right-whinger twit to view how the republitankies are taking the news of the bridge explosion?

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:28:45am

re: #278 Nyet

Slepakov described the process many years ago (turn on the auto-translate).

[Embedded content]

Video

History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes. 79 years ago this week, Nazis in Crimea were in danger of being cut off.

215 - Could the Soviets Cut Off Crimea? - WW2 - October 8, 1943

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:33:51am

BTW, I think this also settles whether the Ukrainians had the means/know-how in order to explode NS.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:34:02am

re: #279 Barefoot Grin

Looks like it was a ship underneath.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:34:07am

re: #275 Varek Raith

Infinite facepalm.

Pretty soon they’ll be calling it “the Musk.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:36:03am

re: #188 Nyet

Sergey, do you see some kind of boat or something passing under the bridge just before/as the truck blows up? Right where the truck is.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:37:34am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:38:31am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not sure, could be a wave. But if there is something there, we will soon know.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:39:19am

Definitely a drone boat.

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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:40:32am

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

Definitely a drone boat.

Droney McDroneface.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:43:18am

According to 20 Minutes, Traffic is resuming on the undamaged lane in alternate flow. Autos and buses only; trucks are being diverted to the ferry terminal.

20minutes.fr

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:43:36am

On the military role of the bridge (a more sober assessment than some others).

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:44:31am

re: #291 Nyet

BTW, you can now manually expand the Telegram posts.

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HypnoToad  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:45:06am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Good wide-angle photo of the damage to the Kerch Bridge taken earlier today:

[Embedded content]

Well timed detonation; it took out six tank cars in the middle of the line of them. From the plumes emanating from several of them it seems shrapnel punctures did the deed. I wonder if the charge (which in many of the videos appears to happen on top of the roadway span) was a shaped one.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:46:14am

This is unconfirmed, but certainly, a most interesting rumor. Grist for the mill, as it were:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:47:09am

I cropped and zoomed in. Definitely see the front of a ship.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:47:55am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

AG, so a grain of salt, but we will soon know, if true.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:48:49am

heh

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:49:29am

Train tickets being sold again.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:51:39am

Allegedly the 51 yo Makhir Yusubov was driving the truck.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:52:48am

re: #298 Nyet

LOL I wouldn’t take that train for all the single-malt in Islay.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:53:24am

re: #299 Nyet

The formal owner of the truck.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 8, 2022 • 7:59:18am

re: #218 Nyet

Allegedly a previous owner of the truck (not necessarily having to do with the event).

[Embedded content]

Still cut off in the middle, reloading does not help, not possible to get to linked page. 😥

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:01:17am

re: #302 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Does anything appear in the bottom right corner? In the desktop version you can drag on it to resize the frame.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:04:29am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:04:45am

re: #225 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:06:29am

re: #304 darthstar

Based on the UA military intelligence.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:08:36am

re: #304 darthstar

Someone whose name doesn’t rhyme with Butin must be assigned blame.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:10:35am

re: #295 GlutenFreeJesus

I cropped and zoomed in. Definitely see the front of a ship.

It was a truck, it was a missile, it was a boat, it was SOF planting charges…I’m starting to think it was all just CGI and the bridge isn’t damaged at all. //

Seriously, though…this would have been even more epic if that train had been ammo and cooked off. It could have cut the last main logistics line to the south. Ferries can’t substitute for rail, and storm season is approaching which means fewer ferries.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:11:38am

re: #307 No Malarkey!

Someone whose name doesn’t rhyme with Butin must be assigned blame.

Maybe they’re just giving him an extra day of celebration with a parade.

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:12:38am

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:13:38am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:14:01am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:14:10am

re: #310 William Lewis

Beautiful. And a little bit of fall color. :)

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:14:21am

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:15:09am

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William Lewis  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:15:56am

One last one from that roll of film…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:16:42am

re: #122 mmmirele

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:16:55am

re: #306 Nyet

Based on the UA military intelligence.

[Embedded content]

Not seeing a confirmation on RuTwitter so far.

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A Cranky One  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:17:34am
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jeffreyw  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:17:50am

I’m noticing some odd behavior in the Youtube at #225 in Firefox. The video never opens, there is just the spinning circle. I can open the comment in Chrome and the video will play. I have no idea if there is a setting in Firefox I can change to get it to work. Any ideas?

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:19:11am

More bow-wow-na.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:19:33am

re: #318 Nyet

Not seeing a confirmation on RuTwitter so far.

Yeah, not seeing any independent confirmation on other channels either. Like you said, the Tweet started off from Ukrainian intelligence, so it could just well be them fucking with the Russians (well, even more so in light of today’s earlier events).

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:22:35am

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, not seeing any independent confirmation on other channels either. Like you said, the Tweet started off from Ukrainian intelligence, so it could just well be them fucking with the Russians (well, even more so in light of today’s earlier events).

Trolling or trying to provoke the military…

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:23:31am

re: #323 Nyet

An actual blockade of the center of Moscow would have been apparent immediately.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:27:46am

Political cartoonists are already providing commentary on the bridge:

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Alephnaught  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:32:19am

re: #324 Nyet

An actual blockade of the center of Moscow would have been apparent immediately.

Yeah, I’m a bit sceptical too. Especially when I saw this response on Twitter.

The link on that tweet goes to a story from Jan 2021, and the lead picture is the same one used in the Telegram message above. It’s really obvious when you load the full tweet.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:37:11am

Remember a few weeks ago. The UKR boat drone that washed ashore in Crimea.

forbes.com

That’s the exact same type of boat used. I guarantee it.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:40:57am

Kerch pier. LOL.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:42:25am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, if Walker loses I’ll have to send Hannity a thank you post card - to the Fox News studio so everyone can see it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:43:11am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:45:56am

WaPo article (I had to sign in for this one):
washingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:46:40am

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:48:09am
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Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:48:25am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

SMRT

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:52:35am

re: #208 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

…..
The unwillingness of people, individually and corporately (i.e., nations), to accept that growth can not go on forever is profoundly stubborn.

…..
But any numerate individual will recognize, if they allow themselves, that exponential growth (which is what a the annual positive percent number represents) soon gets to where the absolute value of the quantity in question becomes astronomical.
…..

That’s what especially infuriates me about those who think there is some catastrophic problem if population growth is not a positive number, that people need to be encouraged to have larger families, that a stable population must be the sign of a society in decline.

Some believe we already exceed the carrying capacity of the planet, especially for a first world standard of living; others think it could handle twice the current population, not at this standard. A mere .5% annual growth would lead to a US population of 1 billion in just over 200 years — do we really think that is a desirable outcome, if you don’t want to live at the standard of an Indian peasant, with widespread environmental destruction.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:53:04am

Livecam of Moscow:

balticlivecam.com

If there were indeed a putsch underway, there wouldn’t be any cars driving around on what I’d imagine is a fairly typical Saturday evening.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:55:30am

re: #336 Dr Lizardo

Putin might be paranoid. That might be a possibility.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2022 • 8:57:51am

re: #337 PhillyPretzel

Putin might be paranoid. That might be a possibility.

I’m about 99% sure that Putin is highly paranoid, and at this point, not without reason. His would-be imperial adventurism in Ukraine has turned into a fiasco and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he’s worried that everyone around him is gonna go all knives out in the not-too-distant-future.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:01:07am

re: #303 Nyet

Does anything appear in the bottom right corner? In the desktop version you can drag on it to resize the frame.

Nothing.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:03:15am

When the weather is perfect in October what you get here is traffic jams of leaf peepers. Jeebus. I-93 is backed up for miles and now so are secondary roads.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:03:48am

re: #222 steve_davis

“I don’t care if Herschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles,” she said. “I want control of the Senate!”

But of course he didn’t, honey. He paid to murder his precious, precious unborn child. Isn’t that how it goes?

NRA Barbie does not now nor has she ever cared about the well-being of children whether they are “unborn” or born. She wants a white supremacist fascist regime with guns for all white people.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:04:35am

re: #326 Alephnaught

Yeah, I’m a bit sceptical too. Especially when I saw this response on Twitter.

The link on that tweet goes to a story from Jan 2021, and the lead picture is the same one used in the Telegram message above. It’s really obvious when you load the full tweet.

The picture doesn’t play a role since it’s just a generic illustration. Any such events in Moscow would have made an immediate splash on Twitter though, that’s how we know the UA intelligence message is untrue in one of its key parts, which throws doubt on the rest.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:05:07am

re: #339 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Nothing.

Are you on Android?

344
Varek Raith  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:05:39am

re: #340 Barefoot Grin

When the weather is perfect in October what you get here is traffic jams of leaf peepers. Jeebus. I-93 is backed up for miles and now so are secondary roads.

Leafers!

345
A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:07:59am

re: #343 Nyet

Are you on Android?

iPadOS 15.7.

346
Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:09:37am

re: #345 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Doesn’t work on my Android phone either. (I’ll “recommend” this comment to Charles so he can take a look at the issue).

347
A Cranky One  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:09:38am

re: #343 Nyet

I see the problem when using an Android.

348
Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:20:42am

re: #271 No Malarkey!

Its remarkable how important fighting for a cause people believe in is. In seven months, with Western aid, Ukraine has built one of the most formidable armies in the world. In contrast, despite having 20 years and near limitless resources from the US, the Afghan army collapsed overnight. There is a lesson there.

We’ve also had forces there training the Ukraine military for years. They learned well and are very adaptable.

349
Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:26:03am

re: #304 darthstar

Am skeptical. There have been similar reports previously and they never turned out to be accurate.

350
Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:27:26am

Pity that the UA military intelligence has harmed their credibility this way, and that lots of Ukrainian websites have distributed this uncritically.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:42:10am

Here’s how one can observe the distribution.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:44:02am

re: #351 Nyet

Here’s how one can observe the distribution.

(Other keywords can also be used)

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A Cranky One  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:46:34am

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:48:15am

Test train.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:49:45am

Allegedly the driver did not know about the explosives.

If true, this creates all sorts of moral issues.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2022 • 9:52:14am

re: #355 Nyet

Operational security to the extreme?

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Alephnaught  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:02:40am

New trailer for the 13th Doctor’s last outing on Doctor Who unveiled. It’ll broadcast on October 23rd. (The show was first broadcast on November 23rd 1963.)

Looks pretty spectacular visually. Mind you, so was the last episode, but the story was a bit iffy.

I’m still a bit worried they’re in danger of trying to pack too much into the episode: there’s going to be: [Deep breath] Daleks, Cybermen, The Master, Kate Stewart, current companions, companions from the previous season, 2 companions from the 1980s (!), there’s even rumours of cameos from companions throughout the show’s 60 year history, and it’s a regeneration episode!

That’s a lot to juggle, even if they do have 90 minutes to play with this time. I’m reminded of The Time of The Doctor, which was a good send-off for the 11th Doctor, but packed so much plot into 60 minutes you really had to watch it a few times for parts of it to fully make sense. I still enjoyed it though. Hopefully I can say the same for the forthcoming special.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:03:59am

drolwe

Wordle 476 4/6*

🟨⬛🟨⬛⬛
⬛🟨🟨🟨⬛
🟨⬛⬛🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:05:58am

re: #357 Alephnaught

Ace has been confirmed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:07:48am

Bam.

Wordle 476 3/6

⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
⬛🟩🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:10:17am

re: #358 wrenchwench

drolwe

[Embedded content]

Ooh, no greens ‘til the last line. I can try to do that on purpose in the future! Not.

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Alephnaught  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:12:37am

re: #359 Belafon

Ace has been confirmed.

As has Teagan.

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John Hughes  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:14:33am

re: #325 Sherlock Hound

RTT is “reduction de temps de travail” — days off to keep your average work week at 35 hours.

“Faire le pont” (lit: make/do the bridge) is take a vacation day between a public holiday and a weekend.

Edit: Plantu is the signature cartoonist of Le Monde.

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John Hughes  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:24:21am

re: #328 darthstar

Sur le pont de Kerch
L’on y danse, l’on y danse
Sur le Pont de Kerch
L’on y danse tous en rond.

Edit: fix my crappy memory of the lyrics.

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Alephnaught  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:26:18am

The Kyiv Independent is echoing the “Russians arresting military in Moscow” story.

So far, I’ve only been seeing this story from Ukraine-based sources. This looks increasingly like a psyop, or an epic troll.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:26:28am

re: #363 John Hughes

RTT is “reduction de temps de travail” — days off to keep your average work week at 35 hours.

“Faire le pont” (lit: make/do the bridge) is take a vacation day between a public holiday and a weekend.

Edit: Plantu is the signature cartoonist of Le Monde.

Oui. I’ve long followed the cartoonist. I understood everything but “RTT”.

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Nyet  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:27:17am

re: #365 Alephnaught

The Kyiv Independent is echoing the “Russians arresting military in Moscow” story.

So far, I’ve only been seeing this story from Ukraine-based sources. This looks increasingly like a psyop, or an epic troll.

That’s not journalism…

368
John Hughes  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:29:46am

re: #303 Nyet

Does anything appear in the bottom right corner? In the desktop version you can drag on it to resize the frame [ introduce interesting artifacts ].

Enhance! Enhance!

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John Hughes  Oct 8, 2022 • 10:30:33am

re: #327 GlutenFreeJesus

Remember a few weeks ago. The UKR boat drone what washed ashore in Crimea.

forbes.com

That’s the exact same type of boat used. I guarantee it.

Small boat. Small bang.

370
austin_blue  Oct 8, 2022 • 11:05:23am

re: #221 Nyet

lol

It’s Beriev vs. Zhukov!


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