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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:28:21pm

WTFITS

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:32:01pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

She’s deserting a sinking ship.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:33:56pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

She’s deserting a sinking ship.

Don’t you have to live in a district in order to represent it?

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:34:26pm

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:34:28pm

Break in the rain at the 9th tee.

Night sight mode on top.

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:37:39pm

Fuckin’ Bobo!

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It’s her race to lose, that district is the reddest in the state.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:37:55pm

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Don’t you have to live in a district in order to represent it?

According to the Colorado Sun, no

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:39:38pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Fuckin’ Bobo!

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It’s her race to lose, that district is the reddest in the state.

Oh G-D does she ever wash her hair? I can see the head lice from here.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:40:04pm

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:41:03pm

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Don’t you have to live in a district in order to represent it?

You don’t have to live in the district, you just have to live in the state.

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Unabogie  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:43:09pm

Regarding stopping the migrant busses. This is easy. Just impound any vehicles that do this. Pull them over after everyone gets off, arrest the driver for felony kidnapping, and impound the bus and sell it for scrap. It’s way past time to keep playing around with this shit.

re: #119 Backwoods Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:48:44pm

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Don’t you have to live in a district in order to represent it?

Just has to find another refrigerator crate.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:49:58pm

Maria Hinojosa rocks. that is all. she rocks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:51:16pm

For those interested in how British English has changed the past few centuries:

An Upper-Class Southern British Accent, 1673 - 2023



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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:53:14pm

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Don’t you have to live in a district in order to represent it?

The Constitution doesn’t say that you have to live in the district. It just says you have to reside in the state. For years Pennsylvania had a Congressman in the Western part of the state who lived outside the district. (Fulton)

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 27, 2023 • 5:58:01pm

‘Utter misreading’: Right-leaning columnist admits she was wrong about Roe vs. Wade outcry

And of course she’s a Libertarian whose selfish outlook led her to think people wouldn’t care if Roe was overturned…

“I won’t say this is the wrongest I have ever been,” wrote Washington Post columnist Megan McArdle, who describes herself as a right-leaning libertarian, on Wednesday.

“The end of the year is a time to reflect on one’s mistakes,” she wrote, “including, for a columnist, the arguments you got wrong. I am ruminating on my utter misreading of the politics of a post-Roe world.”

The writing that caused the self-examination was from may 2022 when she wrote, “”The left is counting on an abortion backlash that may never come.”

On Wednesday, she wrote, “Relatedly, I suspect I underestimated how many people were giving pollsters symbolic answers, safe in the knowledge that Roe v. Wade made them moot. In abstract, many people were against abortion in all but the most sympathetic cases. But though they might not have admitted it to themselves, I’d bet that many of them also liked knowing women had the option — if not for themselves, than for their wives, daughters, sisters or girlfriends.

“When politicians threatened to take that option away, they voted pragmatically.”

Those being polled about their opinions on the right to choose are frequently asked whether they are “pro-choice or pro-life.”

They are rarely asked if they supported a total ban or an elimination of Roe vs. Wade, McArdle wrote.

They are two extremely different questions that require more nuance than a simple “yes” or “no.” At the same time, terms like pro-choice or pro-life are political stances that aren’t fully understood by the non-political public. People don’t understand that being “pro-life” but believing it should be up to the individual means one is pro-choice, she wrote.

McArdle goes on to say that she never fully realized just how horribly legislators wrote the so-called “trigger laws,” which would go into place if the Supreme Court struck down Roe.

Columnist Jessica Valenti wrote in 2019, after Alabama banned abortion at conception, that lawmakers were very confused about the specifics of the law.

She cited State Sen. Clyde Chambliss, a Republican, as an example. When he was asked whether there was a carve-out that would protect the victims of incest, he responded: “Yes, until she knows she’s pregnant.”

McArdle claimed that Republicans were caught up in giving pro-choice groups everything they always wanted in a performative way, thinking that Roe would never be overturned.

“The result has been a parade of horrifying stories as doctors refused to provide abortions to a 10-year-old rape victim, and to adult women whose very-much-wanted pregnancies had gone horribly wrong,” she wrote.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:01:34pm

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:06:32pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon ✅

‘Utter misreading’: Right-leaning columnist admits she was wrong about Roe vs. Wade outcry

I admit that I was also wrong about Roe v. Wade. I used to think that a 22-week ban would cover all contingencies. Now I believe that there should be no legal restrictions on pregnancy treatments during any stage of pregnancy.

BUT BUT BUT WHUDABBOWT GETTING ABORSHUNS THE DAY OF DUE DATE TO KILL BABBY!!!!!

Yeah, that doesn’t happen. I know that many women (myself & my daughters included) have moaned & complained during our final weeks I WANT THIS BABY OUT OF ME RIGHT NOW!!!! but that doesn’t mean we wanted to “kill” the baby.

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:18:59pm

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

I admit that I was also wrong about Roe v. Wade. I used to think that a 22-week ban would cover all contingencies. Now I believe that there should be no legal restrictions on pregnancy treatments.

The Israeli rule is… if it’s for medical reasons, there’s no time limit. They use whatever method the doctor likes best. Taxpayer-funded govt health service pays for it.

If it’s purely elective, no medical reason at all, the limit is 20 weeks. The state will still pay for it if the woman is over 40, under 18, active-duty military, or the pregnancy came from rape or incest.

A woman who doesn’t fit any of those categories, but wants an elective abortion because whatever her own reasons might be, has until 20 weeks to find a private doctor and she has to pay for it herself.

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:20:41pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

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Already?

Damn, this is really early, isn’t it?

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:23:39pm

re: #19 sagehen

The Israeli rule is… if it’s for medical reasons, there’s no time limit. They use whatever method the doctor likes best. Taxpayer-funded govt health service pays for it.

If it’s purely elective, no medical reason at all, the limit is 20 weeks. The state will still pay for it if the woman is over 40, under 18, active-duty military, or the pregnancy came from rape or incest.

A woman who doesn’t fit any of those categories, but wants an elective abortion because whatever her own reasons might be, has until 20 weeks to find a private doctor and she has to pay for it herself.

My understanding is that it is also consistent with Torah.

True?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:30:02pm

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:31:49pm

under Halachic law, the woman’s health and safety is ALWAYS more important than fetal needs.

Back in the “olden” days, before anesthetics and transfusions and survivable C-sections, a difficult enough delivery might result in the mid-wife dismembering the almost-born if that’s what it took to save the woman.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:33:50pm

re: #21 austin_blue

My understanding is that it is also consistent with Torah.

True?

Halacha (Jewish religious law) requires that an abortion be performed if there is a threat to the woman’s life. What is considered a “threat” can be liberally interpreted (note I said LIBERALLY not LITERALLY which would be the GOP language)

None of the Haredi parties in the Israeli government have objected to the abortion law so they are OK with it.

Agudath Israel of America (the US equivalent of the Israeli UTJ party) has objected previously to the GOP abortion bans claiming it endangers women’s lives.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:35:05pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:35:15pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

Are those cats or owls? I no can tell.

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:45:02pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

Halacha (Jewish religious law) requires that an abortion be performed if there is a threat to the woman’s life. What is considered a “threat” can be liberally interpreted (note I said LIBERALLY not LITERALLY which would be the GOP language)

None of the Haredi parties in the Israeli government have objected to the abortion law so they are OK with it.

Agudath Israel of America (the US equivalent of the Israeli UTJ party) has objected previously to the GOP abortion bans claiming it endangers women’s lives.

That seems proper.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:45:06pm

family update:

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:45:26pm

re: #26 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Are those cats or owls? I no can tell.

Those are owls.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:46:11pm

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

“Choose your leaders
with wisdom and forethought.
To be led by a coward
is to be controlled
by all that the coward fears.
To be led by a fool
is to be led
by the opportunists
who control the fool.
To be led by a thief
is to offer up
your most precious treasures
to be stolen.
To be led by a liar
is to ask
to be told lies.
To be led by a tyrant
is to sell yourself
and those you love
into slavery.”
― Octavia E. Butler, Parable of the Talents, 1998

Trump

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CleverToad  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:48:17pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

family update:

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:49:19pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2023 • 6:55:45pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Already?

Damn, this is really early, isn’t it?

This bird is just using the boxes (2) for a day roost at this point.

I haven’t seen any nesting behavior yet. That’s generally end of February.

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BeachDem  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:00:08pm

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

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This audience looks as pained as the one from Iowa I posted earlier. Listening to Nikki’s bullshit is incredibly painful.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:01:38pm

re: #26 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Are those cats or owls? I no can tell.

Screech owl….

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:02:25pm

The Times Sues OpenAI and Microsoft Over A.I. Use of Copyrighted Work
Millions of articles from The New York Times were used to train chatbots that now compete with it, the lawsuit said.

In one example of how A.I. systems use The Times’s material, the suit showed that Browse With Bing, a Microsoft search feature powered by ChatGPT, reproduced almost verbatim results from Wirecutter, The Times’s product review site.

The text results from Bing, however, did not link to the Wirecutter article, and they stripped away the referral links in the text that Wirecutter uses to generate commissions from sales based on its recommendations.

(No paywall)

nytimes.com

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:16:48pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

Screech Owl is the name of a favorite run of mine at Beaver Creek.

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:17:27pm

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:18:50pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

family update:

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:22:33pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:27:00pm

the ptw just kicked in. see y’all tomorrow….

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:27:52pm
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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:29:54pm

Re Texas bussing immigrants to nyc

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Dangerman  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:33:35pm
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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:49:19pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon ✅

First ‘right leaning libertarian’ reads like ‘authoritarian anarchist’ to me. An utter contradiction that can’t be balanced in any way. But let’s face it, the ‘libertarian’ is just to cover for the ‘authoritarian’. To make it sound like her authoritarian beliefs actually have something to do with ‘liberty’. And ‘liberty’ is a concept most people don’t understand and don’t like when they do because liberty gets in the way of power.

Which leads to her surprise about the reaction to the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. She so obviously lives in a Wolkenkuckucksheim, cloud cuckoo land, that she couldn’t imagine the result. Which surprised no one that didn’t live in Narnia or Middle Earth.

I’m betting she has more than a few letters after her name. Which demonstrates education and good sense are unrelated.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:49:57pm

re: #44 Dangerman

Wow! They needed a study to demonstrate that?

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:51:58pm

re: #44 Dangerman

well, duh

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2023 • 7:54:17pm

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

Another example where you can replace ‘freedom’ with ‘power’ and get to the truth of the statement.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:02:26pm

re: #45 Romantic Heretic

I’m betting she has more than a few letters after her name. Which demonstrates education and good sense are unrelated.

Which is when Tax Cuts comes into play, erasing any and all other factors.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:11:49pm

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

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That’s funny because her State of South Carolina was extremely explicit that it was all about slavery:

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

The ends for which the Constitution was framed are declared by itself to be “to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.”

These ends it endeavored to accomplish by a Federal Government, in which each State was recognized as an equal, and had separate control over its own institutions. The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the *forms* [emphasis in the original] of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that “Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free,” and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States.

The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:16:35pm

re: #42 Dangerman

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How can you close a border stretching thousands of miles anyways? A better solution would be to hire more immigration judges to determine who can stay in the country. Deport the rest if they don’t meet the criteria of being refugees/asylum seekers. Richer countries will always be attractive.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:18:00pm

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:41:51pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:50:22pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Fuckin’ Bobo!

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It’s her race to lose, that district is the reddest in the state.

She’s moving to Ken Buck’s seat so she can go out to the voters and promise them that she’ll totally vote for impeachment and she totally believes that Trump shits nothing but pure 24K gold.

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:50:31pm

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2023 • 8:58:03pm

re: #45 Romantic Heretic

First ‘right leaning libertarian’ reads like ‘authoritarian anarchist’ to me. An utter contradiction that can’t be balanced in any way. But let’s face it, the ‘libertarian’ is just to cover for the ‘authoritarian’. To make it sound like her authoritarian beliefs actually have something to do with ‘liberty’. And ‘liberty’ is a concept most people don’t understand and don’t like when they do because liberty gets in the way of power.

Which leads to her surprise about the reaction to the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. She so obviously lives in a Wolkenkuckucksheim, cloud cuckoo land, that she couldn’t imagine the result. Which surprised no one that didn’t live in Narnia or Middle Earth.

I’m betting she has more than a few letters after her name. Which demonstrates education and good sense are unrelated.

I’ve been reading Megan McArdle’s stuff for a long time, and her basic shtick hasn’t changed much: basically right-wing boilerplate tricked out with enough of the glitter-and-tinsel of “libertarianism” to (nominally) differentiate itself from the rude vulgarisms of, say, a Charlie Kirk or Jack Posobiec. And of course, all from a safe, “respectable” chair at the WaPo….

But I notice even Megan’s “confession of error” here seems to focus mainly on “polling” and “opinion” factors, and tries to deflect away from what (IMO) is the main issue with the post-Dobbs political landscape: i.e. that the “pro-life” lobby is hellbent on instituting a system of extreme restrictions on women, womens’ health issues, and reproductive choices in general (and on the healthcare system as well), that are anything but “libertarian” ….

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:08:39pm

re: #56 Jay C

I always thought Megan was just one of those young people who discovered, once leaving college, that she could get attention, and thus $$$, by working the same audience that Murdoch discovered/unearthed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:11:03pm

I could write the screed that the likes of the self-crowing “libertarians” write and sell. Their stuff is not profound. They just reify the beliefs of Americans who have programmed with mantras about the self and “freedom”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:16:32pm

re: #58 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I could write the screed that the likes of the self-crowing “libertarians” write and sell. Their stuff is not profound. They just reify the beliefs of Americans who have programmed with mantras about the self and “freedom”.

If they aren’t pro-choice, they are just conservative Republicans and not a true libertarian.

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:17:01pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:18:20pm

re: #44 Dangerman

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See, the reasons for the GQP dominance are in the wrong order.

First is “Limited Education” because Repubs despise education and educators since the former leads to voters who realize they’re full of shit and vote for Dems, while the latter refuse to be loyal supporters of the regime and can’t simply be fired on a whim.

This leads to the “Racism,” because a population of angry dullards are easier to rule if you give them something or someone to hate. And since there’s few hates easier to perpetuate than hate of “The Other,” Repubs in rural areas are constantly serving their voters a steady diet of hate of anybody who ain’t as pearly white as they are.

The above two points always lead to the third of “Economics,” of small towns and villages slowly withering on the vine as automation and globalization shrink the need for large pools of angry, dumb labor. And since we already covered how Repubs fear an educated populace, the only thing they can offer is to ramp up the racism by telling their thick-as-pig-shit voters that “The Other” took all the good jobs and that’s why nobody has money to spend in town.

“But wait,” you ask, “What about all the educated people?” They moved out as soon as they had enough money to afford to do so and never looked back. The only time they’ll ever return is to visit what few family they have left that haven’t disowned them for thinking that Trump is anything less than God’s second son.

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:19:04pm

re: #60 retired cynic

incessant bips
* 57m
@fritterary.bsky.social

My toddler-herding friend has another great solution for s’mores indoors.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:19:52pm

re: #44 Dangerman

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Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2023 • 9:54:24pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:24:13pm

re: #56 Jay C

I’ve been reading Megan McArdle’s stuff for a long time, and her basic shtick hasn’t changed much: basically right-wing boilerplate tricked out with enough of the glitter-and-tinsel of “libertarianism” to (nominally) differentiate itself from the rude vulgarisms of, say, a Charlie Kirk or Jack Posobiec. And of course, all from a safe, “respectable” chair at the WaPo….

But I notice even Megan’s “confession of error” here seems to focus mainly on “polling” and “opinion” factors, and tries to deflect away from what (IMO) is the main issue with the post-Dobbs political landscape: i.e. that the “pro-life” lobby is hellbent on instituting a system of extreme restrictions on women, womens’ health issues, and reproductive choices in general (and on the healthcare system as well), that are anything but “libertarian” ….

I think that’s what has come as such as shock to the pundit class, that without the guardrail that was Roe in place, the Repubs immediately careened over the edge to the tune of “Onward, Christian Soldiers!” They didn’t expect to wake up the morning after Dobbs dropped to find out that red states had all sorts of bans and restrictions on the books that would snap back into place the moment Roe was overturned. They’re seeing how hollow words like “states rights” and “personal freedom” really are when uttered by Republicans and it’s making them very uncomfortable.

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gwangung  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:32:28pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

I think that’s what has come as such as shock to the pundit class, that without the guardrail that was Roe in place, the Repubs immediately careened over the edge to the tune of “Onward, Christian Soldiers!” They didn’t expect to wake up the morning after Dobbs dropped to find out that red states had all sorts of bans and restrictions on the books that would snap back into place the moment Roe was overturned. They’re seeing how hollow words like “states rights” and “personal freedom” really are when uttered by Republicans and it’s making them very uncomfortable.

They’re seeing how hollow, but they still won’t believe it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:35:12pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

I think that’s what has come as such as shock to the pundit class, that without the guardrail that was Roe in place, the Repubs immediately careened over the edge to the tune of “Onward, Christian Soldiers!” They didn’t expect to wake up the morning after Dobbs dropped to find out that red states had all sorts of bans and restrictions on the books that would snap back into place the moment Roe was overturned. They’re seeing how hollow words like “states rights” and “personal freedom” really are when uttered by Republicans and it’s making them very uncomfortable.

The pundit class was always aware that “states rights” and “personal freedom” were gobbledygook terms that GOP threw out to pretend those were concepts that concerned them. But they thought the GOP would have some clever approach to persuade voters that they were on the right side of the abortion issue. After all, Texas passed its vile legislation while Roe was still the law of the land — legislation that basically prevented abortions in their state. Yet Texas politicians faced no pushback from voters.

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:37:36pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

“But wait,” you ask, “What about all the educated people?” They moved out as soon as they had enough money to afford to do so and never looked back. The only time they’ll ever return is to visit what few family they have left that haven’t disowned them for thinking that Trump is anything less than God’s second son.

They come back to be in Hallmark movies. It’s Christmas, or Thanksgiving, or a high school reunion, and the big-city career girl falls in love with the farmer, the carpenter, the auto mechanic, the lumberjack who’s better-looking than she remembered from when they were teenagers, and he has that awesome four-bedroom house on 10 acres that he inherited from his parents…

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Captain Ron  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:43:22pm
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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:47:36pm

re: #51 Patricia Kayden

That sounds expensive, and modern government is all about cheap.

Except for defence and security.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:49:11pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

See, the reasons for the GQP dominance are in the wrong order.

First is “Limited Education” because Repubs despise education and educators since the former leads to voters who realize they’re full of shit and vote for Dems, while the latter refuse to be loyal supporters of the regime and can’t simply be fired on a whim.

This leads to the “Racism,” because a population of angry dullards are easier to rule if you give them something or someone to hate. And since there’s few hates easier to perpetuate than hate of “The Other,” Repubs in rural areas are constantly serving their voters a steady diet of hate of anybody who ain’t as pearly white as they are.

The above two points always lead to the third of “Economics,” of small towns and villages slowly withering on the vine as automation and globalization shrink the need for large pools of angry, dumb labor. And since we already covered how Repubs fear an educated populace, the only thing they can offer is to ramp up the racism by telling their thick-as-pig-shit voters that “The Other” took all the good jobs and that’s why nobody has money to spend in town.

“But wait,” you ask, “What about all the educated people?” They moved out as soon as they had enough money to afford to do so and never looked back. The only time they’ll ever return is to visit what few family they have left that haven’t disowned them for thinking that Trump is anything less than God’s second son.

Would have loved to hear Anymouse’s take on this. Because the RW bigots and Trump cult members in my circle were all educated or had successful careers in IT related fields. The lawyers who paid obeisance to Trump were educated. Abbott, Youngkin, DeathSentence, Haley, Peter Navarro, J.D. Vance are all educated. Is there real evidence that educated people are somehow less susceptible to racism than the uneducated in red states? It’s not racism or gun massacres that helped Democrats in 2022 — it was abortion because that issue affects educated women as well as the poor.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2023 • 10:50:17pm

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Why didn’t she go into to a less morally reprehensible form of drug dealing like selling crack or meth?

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mmmirele  Dec 27, 2023 • 11:28:50pm

re: #56 Jay C

I’ve been reading Megan McArdle’s stuff for a long time, and her basic shtick hasn’t changed much: basically right-wing boilerplate tricked out with enough of the glitter-and-tinsel of “libertarianism” to (nominally) differentiate itself from the rude vulgarisms of, say, a Charlie Kirk or Jack Posobiec. And of course, all from a safe, “respectable” chair at the WaPo….

But I notice even Megan’s “confession of error” here seems to focus mainly on “polling” and “opinion” factors, and tries to deflect away from what (IMO) is the main issue with the post-Dobbs political landscape: i.e. that the “pro-life” lobby is hellbent on instituting a system of extreme restrictions on women, womens’ health issues, and reproductive choices in general (and on the healthcare system as well), that are anything but “libertarian” ….

Give me a few minutes with Ms. McArdle…I’d be asking her about the guys at the church in my neighborhood who want to execute women who have gotten abortions and anyone who helps them. These “abortion abolitionists” are bloody fucking dangerous. They’re NOT pro-lifers, they think pro-lifers are too wimpy because they have exceptions. These asshats are no exceptions, EVER.

I had one of these jerks tell me today they looked forward to arresting me for merely being pro-choice. Because I am a wannabe murderer. So yeah, we can’t let these people get any more power; they’d engage in a bloodbath.

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mmmirele  Dec 27, 2023 • 11:35:27pm

re: #69 Captain Ron

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Pictures like this (William, Charles and number 2 in line for the throne whose name escapes me and I’m not going to look it up all kitted up in their royal regalia) tend to bring out the raging small-r republican in me. You know, the “Madame Defarge knitting below the guillotine” type of republican. I remember the first time I had this feeling—it was on a July 4 back about 1993ish where I watched (on PBS) Margaret Thatcher being installed into the House of Lords.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2023 • 11:35:37pm

re: #73 mmmirele

It will be Gilead, with border guards and medical inspections for all childbearing-aged women leaving or re-entering the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2023 • 11:36:37pm

re: #74 mmmirele

Just wait until Prince Andrew gets put back in the spotlight over his Epstein connections.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2023 • 11:44:15pm

re: #67 Hecuba’s daughter

The pundit class was always aware that “states rights” and “personal freedom” were gobbledygook terms that GOP threw out to pretend those were concepts that concerned them. But they thought the GOP would have some clever approach to persuade voters that they were on the right side of the abortion issue. After all, Texas passed its vile legislation while Roe was still the law of the land — legislation that basically prevented abortions in their state. Yet Texas politicians faced no pushback from voters.

That’s just the thing, they did have a “clever approach”: “exceptions.” It’s the sales pitch we’ve heard for decades, that if ever Roe were overturned and abortions banned, our female loved ones could rest easy knowing that their doctor could still perform one if they “needed” it. That no matter how much Repubs beat up on those loose women who seemed to have weekly appointments with the abortion doctor, you and yours would be assured access to the medical care you needed when you needed it.

And then Dobbs happened and the new reality began to set in. A young girl who’s the victim of rape needs an abortion and instead of Repubs holding up her case as a prime example of the safety of such “exceptions,” they instead squeal like stuck pigs about how the case isn’t real and even if it is there’s no reason she can’t just give the baby up for adoption. Republicans are out there on live TV, screaming and snarling at women advocating for abortion rights and responding to stories of hardship with denials or (as in one prominent case) falling asleep out of boredom. It’s such that even “reasonable” Repubs like Gov Whitebread here in VA have been unable to sell their “compromise” abortion bans because all the opposition has to do is point to cases like Kate Cox and female voters run screaming to the ballot box.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2023 • 11:53:58pm

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just wait until Prince Andrew gets put back in the spotlight over his Epstein connections.

From what I’ve seen here and there in the UK tabloid press, the Windsor’s aren’t exactly looking forward to that. That’ll probably happen around the turn of the year, and then a new tabloid feeding frenzy surrounding “Randy Andy” will commence.

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Nojay UK  Dec 28, 2023 • 12:03:03am

re: #74 mmmirele

For myself, living crushed under the bootheels of the Monarchy all my life, my first thought seeing that picture is “Those poor schmucks work for me.” My second thought is, “Charlie can’t declare war or pardon people or appoint judges or piss on the nation’s Constitution from a great height unlike some elected heads of State I could mention.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 12:11:24am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

From what I’ve seen here and there in the UK tabloid press, the Windsor’s aren’t exactly looking forward to that. That’ll probably happen around the turn of the year, and then a new tabloid feeding frenzy surrounding “Randy Andy” will commence.

I fully support simply privatising the Royal Family: British Royal PLC. Let them earn an honest living by giving speeches, cutting ribbons and endorsing products and tourist destinations. Members like Andrew would simply be fired for damaging the company’s image.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2023 • 12:15:05am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I fully support simply privatising the Royal Family: British Royal PLC. Let them earn an honest living by giving speeches, cutting ribbons and endorsing products and tourist destinations. Members like Andrew would simply be fired for damaging the company’s image.

Not a bad idea at all. And yeah, Andrew needs to be given his walking papers ASAP.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2023 • 12:42:02am

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

Would have loved to hear Anymouse’s take on this. Because the RW bigots and Trump cult members in my circle were all educated or had successful careers in IT related fields. The lawyers who paid obeisance to Trump were educated. Abbott, Youngkin, DeathSentence, Haley, Peter Navarro, J.D. Vance are all educated. Is there real evidence that educated people are somehow less susceptible to racism than the uneducated in red states? It’s not racism or gun massacres that helped Democrats in 2022 — it was abortion because that issue affects educated women as well as the poor.

In this context, “Limited Education” would really speak more to quality than quantity, whether that be in what is taught or how it is taught. I think we’d all agree that having a diploma means nothing if the education provided was lacking, the person holding it ever bit as ignorant as when they started. Think of someone telling you that they’ve a master’s degree and thinking them educated…only to learn that the diploma’s from Prager U or some bargain-priced diploma mill that has long gone out of business for shady practices. That’s the situation we deal with when talking about education under the GQP, plenty of people with diplomas who are still dumb as a post and thus easy to manipulate.

The examples provided actually feed into this, as we’d probably agree that “book smarts” do not necessarily mean “intelligent.” What’s that old joke about what you call the person who graduated last in medical school? “Doctor.” Remember that Ben Carson is a brain surgeon with more years education than most Americans and the awards and accolades to prove it…and he still stood before the nation and stated that the Egyptians used the pyramids to store grain. Is it that hard to believe that someone with college degree could babble racist bullshit and actually believe it?

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2023 • 1:31:43am

re: #82 Targetpractice

In this context, “Limited Education” would really speak more to quality than quantity, whether that be in what is taught or how it is taught. I think we’d all agree that having a diploma means nothing if the education provided was lacking, the person holding it ever bit as ignorant as when they started. Think of someone telling you that they’ve a master’s degree and thinking them educated…only to learn that the diploma’s from Prager U or some bargain-priced diploma mill that has long gone out of business for shady practices. That’s the situation we deal with when talking about education under the GQP, plenty of people with diplomas who are still dumb as a post and thus easy to manipulate.

The examples provided actually feed into this, as we’d probably agree that “book smarts” do not necessarily mean “intelligent.” What’s that old joke about what you call the person who graduated last in medical school? “Doctor.” Remember that Ben Carson is a brain surgeon with more years education than most Americans and the awards and accolades to prove it…and he still stood before the nation and stated that the Egyptians used the pyramids to store grain. Is it that hard to believe that someone with college degree could babble racist bullshit and actually believe it?

One of my friends who went off to lala land was fairly well educated and has a very strong IT career. OTOH, he avoided the humanities in his education and still looks down on the liberal arts to this day. If it wasn’t practical knowledge about his field, he wanted nothing to do with it and it was easy for him to fall for the fascist lies and bullshit especially having been raised with a fundamentalist/evangelical/baptist private school background. His Roman Catholic wife is actually a major moderating force on him with her social justice teachings.

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2023 • 1:54:21am

Mastodon

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2023 • 2:02:33am

I just wan to partisan all the time, partisan all the time, whoa-oh…

Mastodon

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2023 • 2:04:37am

Russia is a terrorist state.

Mastodon

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darthstar  Dec 28, 2023 • 2:08:52am

Vibrators for the tumors…a new way to fuck cancer.

Mastodon

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2023 • 2:23:36am

re: #84 darthstar

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I watched plenty of “reasonable” Republicans metamorphose over the year after Trump came down that golden elevator, going from “He’s a clown that the party will never nominate” to “Say what you will, he tells it like it is!” I broke ties with them all after the election, but I’ve no doubt if I’d stuck around, they would have ended up sounding like most of the “Never-Trump” crowd who now go around insisting that they never supported Trump and don’t know how he got into the White House.

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JC1  Dec 28, 2023 • 2:51:12am

2/6

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2023 • 2:55:47am

re: #84 darthstar

Isn’t it a repeated lie amongst Conservatives that slavery had nothing to do with the reasons the South wanted to secede from the Union? They call the Civil War “The War of Northern Aggression”.
Of course, it’s a bold faced lie but given the state of the current GOP, Haley’s answer probably helps her candidacy.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:34:58am

I got a notice from Amazon Prime Video that they will start ransoming commercials at $3 a month.

Can Netflix be far behind?

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:43:30am

re: #91 Dave In Austin

I got a notice from Amazon Prime Video that they will start ransoming commercials at $3 a month.

Can Netflix be far behind?

Yo-ho-ho, me hearty. Hoist the black flag, it be time to visit yonder torrent hub.

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JC1  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:46:20am

re: #91 Dave In Austin

I got a notice from Amazon Prime Video that they will start ransoming commercials at $3 a month.

Can Netflix be far behind?

I cancelled my prime subscription a couple of months ago. Once it expires at the end of next month, that’s it. It’s just become too annoying: too many shows are on their freevee and other commercials filled services, most of the time it takes them more than 2 days to ship stuff to my house, and their shopping search sucks: no way to do an exact search; they’ll always show hundreds of other matches.
I’ve started doing more and more of my online shopping with Walmart+.

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JC1  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:47:15am

re: #92 Targetpractice

Yo-ho-ho, me hearty. Hoist the black flag, it be time to visit yonder torrent hub.

Yep. VPN+ Pirate Bay or eztv.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:51:09am

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:51:33am

re: #82 Targetpractice

In this context, “Limited Education” would really speak more to quality than quantity, whether that be in what is taught or how it is taught.

Some educated people learn to be manipulative. And like Alex Jones, who started out peddling left-wing CT’s, they quickly learn that the corn-fed conservatives make more lucrative marks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:52:57am

re: #85 darthstar

Mayor of Melitopol, Ivan Fedorov, reports that partisans have destroyed the railway bridge near Svitlodolyns’ke for a second time. After it was initially blown up, Russians decided to repair it, after which it was destroyed once again.

Do Svitlodolyns’kya!!!

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 28, 2023 • 3:59:39am

A little ditty drive time tuneage, enjoy!

Wheatus - A Little Respect

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 4:03:38am

re: #89 JC1

Beagle here, too.
Wordle 922 2/6

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 28, 2023 • 4:55:33am

Morning Lizards. One of the first things I have to do when I get into the store in the morning. Assemble the broiler.

Main broiler body.

Broiler parts.

Broiler complete. That silver box in front of it is our roll away freezer. Once the broiler is put together, I park it on front of the broiler and stock it with burger patties. I will also broil 4 Whopper/Whopper Jr. patties for the inevitable morning burger order(s).

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2023 • 5:12:43am

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2023 • 5:17:07am

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

Good Morning. Spotify may be listening… Discuss an obscure band or song on Monday, only to have it pop up in one of the suggested listings Tuesday…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 5:19:17am

We finally got a JBL spaker for the household, so I guess I need to get some music streaming going

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 5:42:55am

Here’s hoping everyone is doing well as we wind down the last few days of 2023

We hit the five year mark with our PC’s so this year’s Christmas present was new PC’s … while they are awesome, transferring everything over and setting everything up has been the chore. I’m in the final throes of transition, with just my pictures disk / lightroom catalog and ITUNES library needing install on the new.

My wife’s PC is now tweaked to perfection, and I even got all of our tax documents, our insurance policy, and our APPLE IMEI’s out of the MS cloud (she wanted access to them on her desktop and had created a folder, which was synced…) I explained the difference between local and cloud and showed her how to set folders “Local only” but… I will have to watch that in the future.

The old PC”s will be re-tasked to guest and household, and the things they replace will be parted out next.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:08:53am

Want a preview of Trump Part 2 Gang?

Let’s check in on Argentina!

Unions lead protests against Milei’s anti-worker decree in Argentina

Tens of thousands of Argentinians took to the streets of the capital Buenos Aires on Wednesday to protest recently inaugurated President Javier Milei’s decree ushering in sweeping austerity and deregulation and to defy the new far-right administration’s crackdown on demonstrations.

Led by labor union activists, the protesters railed against Decree of Necessity and Urgency 70/2023, announced last week by Milei, who is an economist. While the president’s supporters argue the plan is needed to buoy the country’s moribund economy, critics say the directive eviscerates workers’ rights while dangerously accelerating economic deregulation.

Some of the protesters—who chanted slogans including “the country is not for sale”—were attacked and bloodied by police.

“We want a president who respects the division of powers, who understands that workers have the need to defend themselves individually and within the framework of justice when there is unconstitutionality,” protester Gerardo Martínez, general secretary of Argentina’s construction workers’ union, toldThe Associated Press.

Martin Lucero, a 45-year-old teacher who also took part in the protest, toldAgence France-Presse: “The decree is destructive of all labor rights. The Argentine people chose Milei as president of the nation, not as emperor.”

Milei—an admirer of former U.S. President Donald Trump who says that climate change is a “socialist lie” and seeks policy advice from his cloned dogs—pledged to take a “chainsaw” to social programs. He appears to be delivering on his promise.

Since taking office on December 10 following a landslide election victory, Milei has devalued the country’s currency by 50%, cut transport and energy subsidies, said his government won’t renew contracts for more than 5,000 recently hired state employees, and proposed repealing or modifying about 300 laws.

He says he wants to transform Argentina’s economy and reduce the size of its state to address rising poverty and annual inflation expected to reach 200% by the end of the year.

Furthermore, the new government has announced that police would crack down on anyone who organizes or participates in protests that block roads.

Right-wing Argentine lawmaker José Luis Espert shocked human rights defenders earlier this month after declaring that protesters who violated the new policy had the choice of “prison or bullet.” No doubt Lindsay Graham would utter the same thing here…

apnews.com

rawstory.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:18:46am

“He said he’d only be Dictator for the first day!”

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:20:53am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DT also said that when he was president he would not go to a golf course. He went to the golf course almost every day.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:29:07am

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

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re: #84 darthstar

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:33:47am

John Oates Has ‘Moved on’ From Hall & Oates Amid Nasty Legal Scrap

The songwriter said he was still “really proud” of everything he’d achieved with his ex-partner.

John Oates has lost that lovin’ feeling. Despite taking pride in the fruits of his decades-long musical partnership with Daryl Hall—and despite their ongoing legal battle—the hitmaker is moving on and looking to the future.

Hall, 77, filed a bombshell lawsuit against Oates, 75, last month over the latter’s bid to sell his share of their joint venture, Whole Oats Enterprises, without the former’s blessing. Hall was granted a temporary restraining order against Oates as proceedings play out.

In a recent appearance on the Behind the Velvet Rope podcast, Oates acknowledged that no one could ignore “the Hall & Oates catalog of hits and the 50-year career will always trump almost anything that Daryl does on his own or I do on my own.” He added that he was at peace with that, though, “because I’m very proud of that music.”

“I’m really proud of what Daryl and I created together,” he continued. “I think we made music that will stand the test of time.”

But, Oates said, he doesn’t like to dwell on the past.

“I make the analogy of what it’s like when you go to a great museum and you’re really excited to go and see all the beautiful paintings, or the exhibits or whatever it might be,” he explained, “and then near the end, your feet start to hurt and you say, ‘You know what? I can’t wait to get out of here.’ That’s kind of how I feel about it.”

“I have moved on,” he added. “It’s just a matter of living in my present.”

Oates has not commented in detail on the lawsuit, telling Variety earlier this month that he couldn’t and didn’t want to speak about it. “Things will work itself out and time will tell,” he said.

Asked by Entertainment Weekly a few days later if the feud would put an end to any possibility of an onstage reunion in the future, Oates was equally noncommittal.

“Oh, you know what, I never say never to anything,” he answered. “I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I just want, right now, I’m focused on where I am in life and leading the best life I can and moving forward.”

thedailybeast.com

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Oblongatis  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:41:16am

re: #51 Patricia Kayden

Recently read a history book called “Walls” by David Frye.

The author examined the use of walls for various reason, mainly to keep out the rabble. The main point of the analysis was that walls work so long as they are maintained and manned. An unmanned wall is just a speed bump.
If anyone was serious about closing the border by building a functional wall would need to have well manned watch towers every quarter mile and a response force to repel crossers.
My conclusion is the passion for a wall on the southern border is a talking point to can the base since the way it’s envisioned by its proponents ensure it’s a futile endeavor.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:42:12am

Friends, I am a disc golfer. I have found a great deal of resonance in that community to “He cheats at golf.” No one wants to hear politics but everyone, even wingers, finds it disquieting to think of him on a card with them trying to cheat all the time. I suggest we use “He cheats at golf” whenever possible.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:45:44am

re: #108 Teukka

I still like Beau. He is correct about how it happened.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:51:19am

re: #110 Oblongatis

My conclusion is the passion for a wall on the southern border is a talking point to can the base since the way it’s envisioned by its proponents ensure it’s a futile endeavor.

Has it ever been anything but a talking point and buzzword? Did DJT convene a planning commission to present deign and engineering studies, feasibility studies, legal and environmental impact statements, a provisional timetable and/or budget?

Someone who says he has experience with “large-scale projects”. Like putting his name on them one everyone has completed the work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:57:33am

re: #112 PhillyPretzel ✅

I still like Beau.

Yes, I like a distanced and rational argument.

And yes, we should study the founding documents of the Confederacy, and school kids should read an annotated version of Mein Kampf.

And then see pictures of what their adherence to slavery and white supremacy led to, from Atlanta to Berlin.

And then they should read Hitler’s last will and testament in which he states that the German People deserves to be wiped off the face of the Earth because they were unable to fulfill his ideological goal of world dominance.

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Jay C  Dec 28, 2023 • 6:59:07am

re: #110 Oblongatis

If anyone was serious about closing the border by building a functional wall would need to have well manned watch towers every quarter mile and a response force to repel crossers.

Complete, of course, with an East-German-style “death strip”. And I’m sure the red-hat contingent would be only too pleased to provide volunteers for that “response force”, given the cheering opportunity to be able to turn their guns on Those People legally.
Or, OTOH, a certain former govt. official recently proposed redeploying the bulk of the US military to the border, so maybe civilian volunteers wouldn’t be needed.

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jeffreyw  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:02:26am

More bird seed

Good morning!

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Jay C  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:06:32am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Someone who says he has experience with “large-scale projects”. Like putting his name on them one everyone has completed the work.

And fiddling with the financing arrangements to ensure maximum short-term rake-off for himself, while carefully shifting any future liabilities to others (i.e. any sucker he can sell off the property to, via bullshit marketing).

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:13:50am

OK, so yeah, I’d heard of this racist piece of garbage for years and years, but I’ve never read it. And I never will. However, I watched this yesterday and it gave a sketch of the contents of “The Turner Diaries” and put it into context, which is kind of scary. I guess I forgot that Tim McVeigh (Oklahoma City bomber) was basically an evangelist for this junk. Anyway, the video starts at 1:32, after the commercial.

The Turner Diaries: The 20th Century’s Most Dangerous Book

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No Malarkey!  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:17:06am

re: #118 mmmirele

OK, so yeah, I’d heard of this racist piece of garbage for years and years, but I’ve never read it. And I never will. However, I watched this yesterday and it gave a sketch of the contents of “The Turner Diaries” and put it into context, which is kind of scary. I guess I forgot that Tim McVeigh (Oklahoma City bomber) was basically an evangelist for this junk. Anyway, the video starts at 1:32, after the commercial.

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I read it, and it is vile stuff.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:22:00am

re: #110 Oblongatis

Recently read a history book called “Walls” by David Frye.

The author examined the use of walls for various reason, mainly to keep out the rabble. The main point of the analysis was that walls work so long as they are maintained and manned. An unmanned wall is just a speed bump.
If anyone was serious about closing the border by building a functional wall would need to have well manned watch towers every quarter mile and a response force to repel crossers.
My conclusion is the passion for a wall on the southern border is a talking point to can the base since the way it’s envisioned by its proponents ensure it’s a futile endeavor.

Always remember that the GOP has no interest in solving problems, but only exploiting them. They don’t care that the wall wouldn’t work, it would waste billions of dollars and would wreck environmental devastation on the Southwest; they just want to whip up fear and hatred of immigrants to get the vote out.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:29:03am

Contrary to rightwing lies, the rate of regret for gender affirming surgery is less than 1%, IOW, virtually nonexistent.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:30:31am

re: #119 No Malarkey!

I read it, and it is vile stuff.

Good, I’m not missing anything then.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:32:50am

re: #118 mmmirele

What’s disgusting to me is how several nephews and nieces use that vile book as their bible.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:35:34am

re: #110 Oblongatis

Excellent observation and that sounds like an interesting book, I might have to get it.

What’s annoying is that the people who supposedly care the most do the most harm to our actual security.

I prefer our border agents and enforcement dollars focused on our safety like actually searching more suspect vehicles at the borders, better scanning at our ports, more customs enforcement even down to counterfeit goods level. Watching for known terrorists and never-do-wells at points of entry, screening visas better, and doing asylum review in a reasonable manner.

All of that actually protects Americans a lot more than the ICE theater of raids and roundups in the interior of our country.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:36:04am

re: #121 No Malarkey!

Contrary to rightwing lies, the rate of regret for gender affirming surgery is less than 1%, IOW, virtually nonexistent.

I would suspect that the surgery for breast “enhancement” (aka enlargement) has a higher regret than gender affirming surgery.

And just to point this out, since I walked with a friend through her gender confirmation surgery…HOLY SHIT NOBODY IS JUST WALKING IN OFF THE STREET, THROWING DOWN MONEY AND GETTING ONE OF THESE SURGERIES. You have to go through multiple psych consultations. You have to find a doctor. Your insurance has to approve the doctor (which is why she ended up here in AZ rather than in AL, because that’s who her insurance at the time covered). She had to run over to Atlanta for *months* prior to the surgery for down there hair removal. She still has to dilate frequently and she had the surgery over five years ago. Oh, and her daughter has basically cut her out of her life. She has a grandchild she’s never met.

Nobody, but nobody, is getting gender confirmation surgery on a whim. The system just will not let it happen. Boob jobs—if you’ve got the money, we’ll start cutting.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:37:05am

Roman Wall Blues
Over the heather the wet wind blows,
I’ve lice in my tunic and a cold in my nose.

The rain comes pattering out of the sky,
I’m a Wall soldier, I don’t know why.

The mist creeps over the hard grey stone,
My girl’s in Tungria; I sleep alone.

Aulus goes hanging around her place,
I don’t like his manners, I don’t like his face.

Piso’s a Christian, he worships a fish;
There’d be no kissing if he had his wish.

She gave me a ring but I diced it away;
I want my girl and I want my pay.

When I’m a veteran with only one eye
I shall do nothing but look at the sky.
— WH Auden

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Nojay UK  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:37:07am

re: #120 No Malarkey!

Always remember that the GOP has no interest in solving problems, but only exploiting them. They don’t care that the wall wouldn’t work, it would waste billions of dollars

A US general contractor who mostly worked in foundations and earthworks for big projects like interstate flyovers and bridges gave an off-the-cuff estimate of what it would take to “build the wall”. The pricetag he came up for three thousand miles of wall with was something over a trillion dollars including labour, materials and equipment. It would take twenty to thirty years to complete. He pointed out there wasn’t a big enough surplus of American labour available to carry out the project so whoever was in charge would have to hire hundreds of thousands of foreign workers, probably from Mexico and Central America for convenience. A lot of the materials, especially steel, would also have to be imported since the US production capacity in that regard was mostly tied up in existing projects like buildings, road and rail infrastructure, the oil and gas business etc.

After the wall was complete he reckoned ten to twenty billion dollars a year would be needed for ongoing maintenance and repair with a dedicated labour force.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:37:34am

re: #123 Joe Bacon ✅

What’s disgusting to me is how several nephews and nieces use that vile book as their bible.

Ewww, dude. I am so sorry to hear that.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:39:03am

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No Malarkey!  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:41:28am

re: #128 mmmirele

Ewww, dude. I am so sorry to hear that.

Since The Turner Diaries is basically a how too manual to engage in terrorism, civil war and genocide, finishing up with a nuclear holocaust, his relatives must be extremely dangerous people who should be on an FBI watch list. It was also Timothy McVeigh’s bible.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:43:32am

Another birbie today.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:46:20am

re: #131 Randall Gross

Range wars in Nigeria:
At least 140 villagers killed by suspected herders in weekend attacks in north-central Nigeria

Oh. I saw this in certain places as “Christians being persecuted and killed in Nigeria.” Well, no, it sounds rather different.

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mmmirele  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:49:34am

One of my friends shared this with the remarks: “German sovcits omg” and “Ammonberg von Bundydorf”.

Far-right extremists stage rural land grab across Germany

Reichsbürger movement aims to establish parallel societies by infiltrating schools, clubs and public offices
Kate Connolly in Rutenberg
Wed 27 Dec 2023 04.45 EST
Last modified on Wed 27 Dec 2023 21.30 EST

A strategic rural land grab by rightwing extremists is taking place across Germany with the concerted aim of creating communities independent of the state, according to the domestic intelligence agency and government ministries.

Authorities and NGOs monitoring far-right groups say the members of the Reichsbürger movement who reject the post-1945 German state are making a targeted effort to establish parallel societies and infiltrate existing structures including schools, clubs and public offices.

According to a recent request for information to the federal interior ministry by Martina Renner of the opposition leftwing Die Linke party, rightwing extremist organisations have bought 40 properties across Germany in the past two years.

theguardian.com

Back in the 1990s, the German government took a lot of heat from the US government for basically spying on Scientology. The German government said that Scientology was a threat to the German state, a distant one, but still a threat. I’m going to be terribly disappointed to learn that the German government isn’t giving a similar scrutiny to these people wanting to play King.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:50:05am

re: #133 mmmirele

Oh. I saw this in certain places as “Christians being persecuted and killed in Nigeria.” Well, no, it sounds rather different.

It’s unfortunate but there are levels of ethno-religious tribal supremacism to it as well. There are also people/states in the background using every hate lever to make things worse.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 7:58:16am

re: #100 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards. One of the first things I have to do when I get into the store in the morning. Assemble the broiler.

Main broiler body.

I will also broil 4 Whopper/Whopper Jr. patties for the inevitable morning burger order(s).

Breakfast of champions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:03:53am

re: #134 mmmirele

One of my friends shared this with the remarks: “German sovcits omg” and “Ammonberg von Bundydorf”.

theguardian.com

Back in the 1990s, the German government took a lot of heat from the US government for basically spying on Scientology. The German government said that Scientology was a threat to the German state, a distant one, but still a threat. I’m going to be terribly disappointed to learn that the German government isn’t giving a similar scrutiny to these people wanting to play King.

Germany does not allow homeschooling. They see schooling as an important facor in socialization and building citizens, and not sovereign wannabees.

I think I mentioned that my partner and I used to do translations for the head of the Reichsbürger movement (before he joined it) Prince Heinrich XIII of Reuss.

He spiraled into the movement after the highest legal instances shot down his claims and appeals for recompensation of his family property that was expropriated by the Soviets directly after WW2.

Seems that German law only allows recompensation for lands seized by the East German government after 1949, but not by the pre-1949 occupation forces.

He wrote a series of letters and appeals and speeches (including one addressed to Barack Obama and another to the British Prime Minister) asking for aid in this matter and finally resorted to the Reichsbürger argument that the Federal Republic of German is not a valid sovereign state, but a corporate entity founded by the Occupation Forces to manage the territories.

The movement itself was happy to have a prominent member of the Aristocracy leading them (there is also a Monarchist movement in Germany, seeking to reinstate the Kaiser and the Second Reich. How do I know about this? Because my ex-wife was dating a Monarchist for a while)

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:04:02am

re: #100 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I will also broil 4 Whopper/Whopper Jr. patties for the inevitable morning burger order(s).

Why they would do that when ya’all have those tasty croissant sandwiches, I can not comprehend. And the fact they have ‘em 2 for $5 around here is hellish for my diet.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:06:48am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:09:50am

re: #130 No Malarkey!

Since The Turner Diaries is basically a how too manual to engage in terrorism, civil war and genocide, finishing up with a nuclear holocaust, his relatives must be extremely dangerous people who should be on an FBI watch list. It was also Timothy McVeigh’s bible.

How did they wind up that way?

Answer—Right Wing Jesus infected them via their parents. Which is why I cut them off.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:13:58am

re: #138 William Lewis

Why they would do that when ya’all have those tasty croissant sandwiches, I can not comprehend. And the fact they have ‘em 2 for $5 around here is hellish for my diet.

Given a choice between a whopper jr & a croissant sandwich, my taste buds go for the whopper jr.

YMMV.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:15:45am

re: #110 Oblongatis

See Great Wall of China. That always failed China when they really needed it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:15:49am

re: #141 BeenHereAwhile

Given a choice between a whopper jr & a croissant sandwich, my taste buds go for the whopper jr.

YMMV.

Germans invented a croissant made with pretzel dough. It is worthy of its own government.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:16:04am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We finally got a JBL spaker for the household, so I guess I need to get some music streaming going

I’ve got a small, tubular one. I haven’t done it yet, but the instructions say you can link up to 32 (I think that is how many) other speakers to it so they are all playing the same thing.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:16:59am

re: #100 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Memories of 9 o clock classes at Pitt 50 years ago when a couple folks would bring in a sack of burgers from Burger King and Burger Chef and eat them during lectures. The smell of those burgers and fries…meanwhile I had to chow down at the Pitt Crapeteria…

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:20:20am

re: #145 Joe Bacon ✅

One of the joys of being a commuter student at LaSalle University I brown bagged it. I saved quite a bit money.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:22:02am

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:23:10am

Mastodon

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:24:16am

He’ll run out of Russian men long before that.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:32:23am

re: #149 Captain Ron

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He’ll run out of Russian men long before that.

But Putin has confidence knowing that he has Congressional Republicans in his corner who are all in on crippling Ukraine.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:33:13am

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:35:15am

This again goes to why that House Resolution conflating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism was so toxic, because whatever your feelings about Israel are it’s fucked up to use it as a way of othering American Jews or diluting their American identity.

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BeachDem  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:35:42am

re: #147 Backwoods Sleuth

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Nikki’s never had a problem with the confederacy; or the confederate flag (until it was advantageous for her to insert herself into the move to take it down, after the Charleston murders.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:39:49am

If Trump is forced out of the running, the GOP will do a heckuva job polishing up Nikki to make her their front runner. Who else do they have? A bloated Jersey Beach walrus or an elevator heel-shod clod?

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:42:02am

Mastodon

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:42:09am

re: #141 BeenHereAwhile

Given a choice between a whopper jr & a croissant sandwich, my taste buds go for the whopper jr.

YMMV.

Apparently! :D

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:43:14am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Trump is forced out of the running, the GOP will do a heckuva job polishing up Nikki to make her their front runner. WHo else do they have? A bloated Jersey Beach walrus or an elevator heel-shod clod?

If Trump is forced out, for whatever reason or another, the MAGAts will stay home. For them, it’s Trump - or nothing.

The GOP can polish their Nikki turd until it’s like a mirror. Without Trump’s base…they’re screwed.

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BigPapa  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:43:44am

re: #155 Backwoods Sleuth

She’s got those crazy eyes.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:49:52am

re: #124 Randall Gross

Excellent observation and that sounds like an interesting book, I might have to get it.

What’s annoying is that the people who supposedly care the most do the most harm to our actual security.

I prefer our border agents and enforcement dollars focused on our safety like actually searching more suspect vehicles at the borders, better scanning at our ports, more customs enforcement even down to counterfeit goods level. Watching for known terrorists and never-do-wells at points of entry, screening visas better, and doing asylum review in a reasonable manner.

All of that actually protects Americans a lot more than the ICE theater of raids and roundups in the interior of our country.

The cartels are flying people and goods to airports. Goods can be carried by Americans, reducing search risks, and people can claim asylum at airports. There could be a class difference for those asylum seekers.

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:52:30am

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:56:50am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Trump is forced out of the running, the GOP will do a heckuva job polishing up Nikki to make her their front runner. WHo else do they have? A bloated Jersey Beach walrus or an elevator heel-shod clod?

Not a chance

The Anti-Haley Forces Are Rallying

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BigPapa  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:57:11am

For today and only today, the answer to every question will be ‘Democratic Plants.’

Maybe tomorrow and into the weekend, not sure yet.

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BeachDem  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:57:16am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Trump is forced out of the running, the GOP will do a heckuva job polishing up Nikki to make her their front runner. WHo else do they have? A bloated Jersey Beach walrus or an elevator heel-shod clod?

There are many who can share a lot of background on Nikki’s hideous past.

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Meryl Kornfield
@MerylKornfield
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Stunning moment: At a town hall in Berlin, N.H., Nikki Haley was asked by a voter what was the cause of the Civil War. She said the war was about government interfering in people’s freedoms. The voter then called her out for not mentioning slavery.

Jaime Harrison
@harrisonjaime
Not stunning if you were a Black resident in SC when she was Governor. Same person who said the confederate flag was about tradition & heritage and as a minority woman she was the right person to defend keeping it on state house grounds.

Some may have forgotten but I haven’t. Time to take off the rose colored Nikki Haley glasses folks.

x.com

Christale Spain (SCDP Chair)
@cspain1920
This is vile, but unsurprising from Nikki Haley. The same person who refused to take down the Confederate Flag until the tragedy in Charleston, and tried to justify a Confederate History Month. She’s just as MAGA as Trump.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:57:28am

One of my friends does music for TV and Movies, those interludes and background things you hear sometimes. You aren’t supposed to really notice the music, just to feel it without noticing it….

He’s now got a Youtube enforced “Topic” channel, and could use a few subs and ad rev if you want to listen to his playlists

Nightingales of Atlantis

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:57:36am

re: #148 Backwoods Sleuth

The Civil War _was_ about “states’ rights”. Specifically, the claim by some states that they had the right to enslave other human beings and the other states saying “you absolutely do not”. The slaveholding states felt so strongly about their “right” to enslave other humans that they went to war over it. This is not complicated and anyone, politician or otherwise, who can’t or won’t say this explicitly should not be in office or elected to one.

Texas fought two wars for the right to own slaves.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:58:00am

re: #155 Backwoods Sleuth

Has she set up her GiveSendGo account to get fellow radical Xtians to pay that fine?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 8:58:47am

Ramadamadingdong invokes the 10th Amendment to justify slavery…

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:00:04am

re: #159 wrenchwench

The cartels are flying people and goods to airports. Goods can be carried by Americans, reducing search risks, and people can claim asylum at airports. There could be a class difference for those asylum seekers.

By ‘could be’ a class difference, I mean there fucking most definitely is a class difference. Money flies, poverty walks. Europeans fly (I include Ukranians, coming as refugees) Africans walk. Central and south Americans walk. Of course, there are class differences within each group.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:00:20am

re: #89 JC1

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BeachDem  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:01:19am

re: #161 Dangerman

Not a chance

The Anti-Haley Forces Are Rallying

And they only reference the problems with her being a woman and a former Sikh—haven’t even skimmed the surface of her being a lying, deceitful asshole. (And those are her good attributes!)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:02:35am

re: #158 BigPapa

She’s got those crazy eyes.

and that smug grin knowing that she can crowdsource this fine

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:03:57am

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

Birbie here

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:05:42am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Someone who says he has experience with “large-scale projects”. Like putting his name on them one everyone has completed the work.

It’s far more than that. It also includes maintaining two sets of valuations of the property. One to show the property tax guys and the other to show the bank guys when a new loan is desired.

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silverdolphin  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:07:13am

re: #165 BeenHereAwhile

Texas fought two wars for the right to own slaves.

Having gone through Texas school in the late 60s, I can verify that the word slavery was never mentioned regarding the Texas Revolution. And, Texas only joined the South out of loyalty to the other states and was hardly involved at all.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:10:10am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it a repeated lie amongst Conservatives that slavery had nothing to do with the reasons the South wanted to secede from the Union? They call the Civil War “The War of Northern Aggression”.
Of course, it’s a bold faced lie but given the state of the current GOP, Haley’s answer probably helps her candidacy.

There are three other lies:
(1) that the Civil War ended the problems
(2)any problems after the War were all Democrats’ fault and
(3) there was no realignment in party positions starting in the 1960’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:11:21am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it a repeated lie amongst Conservatives that slavery had nothing to do with the reasons the South wanted to secede from the Union? They call the Civil War “The War of Northern Aggression”.
Of course, it’s a bold faced lie but given the state of the current GOP, Haley’s answer probably helps her candidacy.

Any other answer would have abruptly ended her candidacy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:14:34am

re: #165 BeenHereAwhile

Texas fought two wars for the right to own slaves.

In the blockbuster classic John Wayne Alamo, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay and fight and dies defending is former master.

In the Ron Howard flop remake, Jim Bowie dismisses his slave, who then asks “Does this mean I am free?”, to which Bowie replies “No, you’re still my property, you are to go report to my family.”

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:14:42am

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BeachDem  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:21:49am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the blockbuster classic John Wayne Alamo, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay and fight and dies defending is former master.

In the Ron Howard flop remake, Jim Bowie dismisses his slave, who then asks “Does this mean I am free?”, to which Bowie replies “No, you’re still my property, you are to go report to my family.”

Forget the Alamo provocatively explains the true story of the battle against the backdrop of Texas’s struggle for independence, then shows how the sausage of myth got made in the Jim Crow South of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century. As uncomfortable as it may be to hear for some, celebrating the Alamo has long had an echo of celebrating whiteness.

amazon.com

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:22:06am

Mastodon

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:23:54am

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:24:01am

re: #105 Joe Bacon ✅

Want a preview of Trump Part 2 Gang?

Let’s check in on Argentina!

Unions lead protests against Milei’s anti-worker decree in Argentina

…………

Milei—an admirer of former U.S. President Donald Trump who says that climate change is a “socialist lie” and seeks policy advice from his cloned dogs—pledged to take a “chainsaw” to social programs. He appears to be delivering on his promise.

Since taking office on December 10 following a landslide election victory, Milei has devalued the country’s currency by 50%, cut transport and energy subsidies, said his government won’t renew contracts for more than 5,000 recently hired state employees, and proposed repealing or modifying about 300 laws.

He says he wants to transform Argentina’s economy and reduce the size of its state to address rising poverty and annual inflation expected to reach 200% by the end of the year.
…………..

The real reason for the Milei victory — the Argentine economic mess and out-of-control inflation. If a nation is experiencing such economic turmoil, it is not crazy to try a totally different direction out of desperation. Such logic doesn’t apply here in the United States — it’s not really the economy, it’s the poison of racism which has infected our nation since its inception, a poison that has been promoted by Trump and his minions and the rest of the modern GOP.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:24:23am

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

Would have loved to hear Anymouse’s take on this. Because the RW bigots and Trump cult members in my circle were all educated or had successful careers in IT related fields. The lawyers who paid obeisance to Trump were educated. Abbott, Youngkin, DeathSentence, Haley, Peter Navarro, J.D. Vance are all educated. Is there real evidence that educated people are somehow less susceptible to racism than the uneducated in red states? It’s not racism or gun massacres that helped Democrats in 2022 — it was abortion because that issue affects educated women as well as the poor.

The thing these people have in common is power. They have it or are close to it or want it.

There’s no 100% in any demographic. There will be uneducated democrats (let’s call them “raised right” with positive social influences) and highly educated MAGAts (whom I’ll call selfish pieces of shit and were raised on the Greed Is Good ethos).

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Markm1960  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:24:32am

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

There are three other lies:
(1) that the Civil War ended the problems
(2)any problems after the War were all Democrats’ fault and
(3) there was no realignment in party positions starting in the 1960’s.

There was no slavery in the south. I infer this because everyone I’ve ever heard talk about their confederate relative are sure to mention that they were fighting for their homes and that their relatives never owned slaves. So pretty much no slavery.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:30:12am

re: #174 silverdolphin

Having gone through Texas school in the late 60s, I can verify that the word slavery was never mentioned regarding the Texas Revolution. And, Texas only joined the South out of loyalty to the other states and was hardly involved at all.

Hey Santa Anna, we’re killing your soldiers below!
That men, wherever they go will remember the Alamo
-Jane Bowers-

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:32:27am

re: #88 Targetpractice

I watched plenty of “reasonable” Republicans metamorphose over the year after Trump came down that golden elevator, going from “He’s a clown that the party will never nominate” to “Say what you will, he tells it like it is!” I broke ties with them all after the election, but I’ve no doubt if I’d stuck around, they would have ended up sounding like most of the “Never-Trump” crowd who now go around insisting that they never supported Trump and don’t know how he got into the White House.

They never mention Trump now. Just crap about Biden constantly. The rot is still there and they still vote straight GOP tickets. In 2024 they might not pull the lever for Trump, but I bet they are also looking for an excuse to even do that.

Per someone’s comment about a friend’s Roman Catholic wife moderating them somewhat I think here I have seen the opposite. His wife is the stolid anti-abortion person who has absorbed all the woo and propaganda about it. (She refused drug treatments after getting Covid due to the crap about aborted baby stem cell lines being used in medical research.)

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:32:31am

WHOA!

The chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse has been fired over his secret life as a porn star with his wife—and he’s not taking it lying down.😏

Dr. Joe Gow and Carmen Wilson promote their OnlyFans and LoyalFans side hustles—with “fully explicit scenes”—on their X account under the handle @SexyHappyCouple.

They have written two books about their hobby under pseudonyms and also have a YouTube channel on which they cook vegan meals with well-known sex performers and use their real names.

The president of the state university system called Gow’s action’s abhorrent, and another top official said she was “alarmed and disgusted” by his behavior.

But Gow, who was transitioning from chancellor to a tenured faculty member when he was fired, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel he didn’t understand all the pearl-clutching.

His extracurricular activities are protected by the First Amendment, he said, and he spent no university resources or work time on the sex videos, which did not reference his day job.

It’s not clear how top education officials learned about Gow’s outside activities but they wasted no time moving to can him.

thedailybeast.com

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:39:17am

That one “TISHSSSHHH!”

Youtube Video

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:39:44am

re: #187 Joe Bacon ✅

WHOA!

The chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse has been fired over his secret life as a porn star with his wife—and he’s not taking it lying down.😏

Dr. Joe Gow and Carmen Wilson promote their OnlyFans and LoyalFans side hustles—with “fully explicit scenes”—on their X account under the handle @SexyHappyCouple.

They have written two books about their hobby under pseudonyms and also have a YouTube channel on which they cook vegan meals with well-known sex performers and use their real names.

The president of the state university system called Gow’s action’s abhorrent, and another top official said she was “alarmed and disgusted” by his behavior.

But Gow, who was transitioning from chancellor to a tenured faculty member when he was fired, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel he didn’t understand all the pearl-clutching.

His extracurricular activities are protected by the First Amendment, he said, and he spent no university resources or work time on the sex videos, which did not reference his day job.

It’s not clear how top educatio. n officials learned about Gow’s outside activities but they wasted no time moving to can him.

thedailybeast.com

Fellow academic who is into porn and protected by the whistleblower protection act?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:39:47am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it a repeated lie amongst Conservatives that slavery had nothing to do with the reasons the South wanted to secede from the Union? They call the Civil War “The War of Northern Aggression”.
Of course, it’s a bold faced lie but given the state of the current GOP, Haley’s answer probably helps her candidacy.

The Lost Cause has been that way since its inception. Back in the old Usenet era there were a number of alt.war.civil.usa denizens who would constantly insist that secession was due to tariffs and abolitionist agitation and that slavery was, if anything, a minor issue. (Lots of pseudo-libertarian “freedom” rhetoric as well.) Crickets if someone brought up the various secession documents or things like southern states censoring the mails.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:44:02am

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:45:56am

re: #192 wrenchwench

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Now look at all the work the hamsters need to do for an upding (or downding) on a Mastodon post.

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Randall Gross  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:46:36am

Google settles in incognito tracking class action case
arstechnica.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:47:15am

re: #120 No Malarkey!

Always remember that the GOP has no interest in solving problems, but only exploiting them. They don’t care that the wall wouldn’t work, it would waste billions of dollars and would wreck environmental devastation on the Southwest; they just want to whip up fear and hatred of immigrants to get the vote out.

Don’t forget the nice grift where they do no-bid contract for the building of said wall and funnel that tax-payer money to cronies and those who provide a nice kickback. The corruption goes hand in hand with the rhetoric.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:54:04am

re: #187 Joe Bacon ✅

It’s not clear how top education officials learned about Gow’s outside activities.

I think I can make a pretty educated guess.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:55:55am

re: #190 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The Lost Cause has been that way since its inception. Back in the old Usenet era there were a number of alt.war.civil.usa denizens who would constantly insist that secession was due to tariffs and abolitionist agitation and that slavery was, if anything, a minor issue. (Lots of pseudo-libertarian “freedom” rhetoric as well.) Crickets if someone brought up the various secession documents or things like southern states censoring the mails.

Crickets or fever-pitch-flame-wars so intense, that my ISP designated newsgroups specifically for flamewars. You’d read the back and forth vitriol and think, “what an amazing waste of intellectual energy.

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:56:41am

Tell me if you heard this one before.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:58:06am

re: #133 mmmirele

Oh. I saw this in certain places as “Christians being persecuted and killed in Nigeria.” Well, no, it sounds rather different.

Cain killed Abel in the first conflict between shepherds and farmers. Continuation of an ancient battle.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:58:37am

re: #174 silverdolphin

Having gone through Texas school in the late 60s, I can verify that the word slavery was never mentioned regarding the Texas Revolution. And, Texas only joined the South out of loyalty to the other states and was hardly involved at all.

Yes, please ignore this brigade made of Texas regiments in the *Army of Northern Virginia*.

(spit)

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 9:59:05am

re: #194 Randall Gross

Google settles in incognito tracking class action case
arstechnica.com

Mastodon

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:03:31am

Long time ago, my first camera was a Canon AE-1 Program I bought at the PX. Really nice camera, they go for silly money on Ebay these days.

Before going to the hotel Christmas party, I stopped by the local pawn shop to make payment and found a black paint Canon AE-1 Program in their camera case. I looked at it - a bit dusty but otherwise clean. Shutter sounds good, 135/3.5 mounted on it, shoulder strap. Battery is dead, so the meter is an unknown. No price tag. So I low-balled it and offered the $40 I had in my wallet knowing that was a fraction of what they go for.

They took it 😎

Not that I need another film camera, but why not? Pretty sure I still have a couple of old Canon lenses hiding at home… 🤞

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:06:14am

re: #202 William Lewis

Long time ago, my first camera was a Canon AE-1 Program I bought at the PX. Really nice camera, they go for silly money on Ebay these days.

Before going to the hotel Christmas party, I stopped by the local pawn shop to make payment and found a black paint Canon AE-1 Program in their camera case. I looked at it - a bit dusty but otherwise clean. Shutter sounds good, 135/3.5 mounted on it, shoulder strap. Battery is dead, so the meter is an unknown. No price tag. So I low-balled it and offered the $40 I had in my wallet knowing that was a fraction of what they go for.

They took it 😎

Not that I need another film camera, but why not? Pretty sure I still have a couple of old Canon lenses hiding at home… 🤞

At least they are smaller than bicycles. I’m having trouble with three, and I’m in the market for another one. (One is here until its new owner picks it up in January, probably.)

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Backwoods Sleuth  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:06:25am

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:07:18am

re: #174 silverdolphin

Having gone through Texas school in the late 60s, I can verify that the word slavery was never mentioned regarding the Texas Revolution. And, Texas only joined the South out of loyalty to the other states and was hardly involved at all.

And again it’s funny because at the time Texas was so incredibly clear about its motivations being based on the maintenance of slavery that its legislature passed and enshrined them in an official declaration of causes for secession:

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery—the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits—a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon the unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of the equality of all men, irrespective of race or color—a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of the Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and the negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States.

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:08:37am

re: #187 Joe Bacon ✅

WHOA!

The chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse has been fired over his secret life as a porn star with his wife—and he’s not taking it lying down.😏

Dr. Joe Gow and Carmen Wilson promote their OnlyFans and LoyalFans side hustles—with “fully explicit scenes”—on their X account under the handle @SexyHappyCouple.

They have written two books about their hobby under pseudonyms and also have a YouTube channel on which they cook vegan meals with well-known sex performers and use their real names.

The president of the state university system called Gow’s action’s abhorrent, and another top official said she was “alarmed and disgusted” by his behavior.

But Gow, who was transitioning from chancellor to a tenured faculty member when he was fired, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel he didn’t understand all the pearl-clutching.

His extracurricular activities are protected by the First Amendment, he said, and he spent no university resources or work time on the sex videos, which did not reference his day job.

It’s not clear how top education officials learned about Gow’s outside activities but they wasted no time moving to can him.

thedailybeast.com

Nevermind that he’s being fired by the scum who surrendered the UW’s academic freedom to Darth Vos for 30 pieces of silver.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:12:27am

re: #163 BeachDem

…….
@cspain1920
This is vile, but unsurprising from Nikki Haley. The same person who refused to take down the Confederate Flag until the tragedy in Charleston, and tried to justify a Confederate History Month. She’s just as MAGA as Trump.

The one difference is that she is not pro-Putin. Her FP will be traditional Cheney-like, so no morals — but at least not subservient to Russia.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:12:41am

re: #144 Eventual Carrion

I’ve got a small, tubular one. I haven’t done it yet, but the instructions say you can link up to 32 (I think that is how many) other speakers to it so they are all playing the same thing.

Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells Full Album

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:17:43am

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:22:15am

re: #209 Joe Bacon ✅

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She knows that Republicans want their leaders to lie their asses off to make them comfortable, and a lot of those Republicans are racists who identify with the Confederacy.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:23:18am

Analysis of Northwest, other salmon hatcheries finds nearly all hurt wild salmon populations

Truth is controversial so often.

[…]

John McMillan, science director at The Conservation Angler who worked on the analysis, said the team wanted scientists all over the world who are studying the same fish species to see the impact of hatcheries programs beyond their regions of study. He said despite an overwhelming body of research showing most hatcheries programs hurt wild fish populations, it’s often controversial to criticize such programs.

“It’s frustrating from a scientific point of view, because you can see what the science suggests, but it’s understandable why we’ve been reluctant to move our position on hatcheries, because of the social implications,” he said. “This is one of those things, like climate change, where we have to sit back and think about our relationship with the animal, what it means to us and how much we want to give up so these animals can truly, potentially rebuild themselves.”

[…]

Bold added.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:27:04am

re: #210 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

She knows that Republicans want their leaders to lie their asses off to make them comfortable, and a lot of those Republicans are racists who identify with the Confederacy.

CRT: Confederate Rebel Twaddling

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:27:52am

Mastodon

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:28:16am

Metro’s headline writer does not hide their opinion.

The Austrian developer of one of the world’s most famous handguns died yesterday at the age of 94.

Gaston Glock, a ‘reclusive’ engineer, formed the Glock company in 1963 in Deutsch-Wagram, nearby Vienna.

The Glock company announced his death yesterday saying that their founder ‘not only revolutionised the world of small arms in the 1980s, but also succeeded in establishing the Glock brand as the global leader in the handgun industry’.

It is unknown exactly how many people have died as a result of Glock handguns.

The company expanded around the world, including a US subsidiary founded in 1985.

Glock handguns are used by police and many countries’ military forces, as well as privately.

Man who made billions out of death and killing dies at the age of 94 (metro.co.uk)

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Vicious Babushka  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:34:02am

re: #214 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

The Metro’s headline writer does not hide their opinion.

Man who made billions out of death and killing dies at the age of 94 (metro.co.uk)

He can hang out with Henry Kissinger and Rush Limbaugh.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:38:19am

re: #213 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

The alt-text made it readable for me.

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danarchy  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:40:47am

re: #211 wrenchwench

Analysis of Northwest, other salmon hatcheries finds nearly all hurt wild salmon populations

Truth is controversial so often.

Bold added.

I guess the question would be does it hurt them more than if we just harvested the wild salmon in the same numbers …

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BeachDem  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:41:40am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

The one difference is that she is not pro-Putin. Her FP will be traditional Cheney-like, so no morals — but at least not subservient to Russia.

Unless someone makes it worth her while. She’s a fucking weathervane who goes where the wind blows.

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Markm1960  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:45:16am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

The one difference is that she is not pro-Putin. Her FP will be traditional Cheney-like, so no morals — but at least not subservient to Russia.

Not pro Putin yet. Seems like she will have to get there eventually if she wants to truly be the republican nominee.

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wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:52:56am

re: #217 danarchy

I guess the question would be does it hurt them more than if we just harvested the wild salmon in the same numbers …

Take down the dams, limit the fishing (less than they need to now).

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:53:10am

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:54:07am

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2023 • 10:54:53am

re: #208 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

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Embedded Image

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Half the things i think, someone else eventually posts.

I love it here

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Joe Bacon ✅  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:00:03am

Ex-GOP student leader’s links to Jan. 6 Capitol riot and a neo-Nazi web site

usatoday.com

The young man is seen running with the crowd of Trump supporters toward the U.S. Capitol early in the afternoon of Jan. 6, 2021. He wears a thigh-length dark blue coat, his face almost fully covered with a mask. The bill of an off-white baseball cap pokes out of the hood of his gray sweatshirt.

At 2:35 p.m. and 20 seconds, a security camera inside the Capitol captures the man as he steps across the threshold of the west door of the upper west terrace, holding up his phone, apparently capturing the moment himself. Immediately behind him is the far-right internet personality “Baked Alaska.”

For a few seconds, his distinctive pink Adidas Continental 80 sneakers are visible.

The security footage is among videos released during the trial of another Jan. 6 participant, a member of the Proud Boys prosecuted for seditious conspiracy. In it, and in other photos from the day, his face remains partly concealed behind the mask.

But all signs point to Oliver Krvaric, a young Republican star and scion of a powerful GOP family from San Diego. Krvaric is most notable for his job at the time of the riot.

A USA TODAY review of arrests concluded Krvaric would be the first full-time employee of the Trump administration identified entering the Capitol in the insurrection. On Jan. 6, 2021, Krvaric was working for the Office of Personnel Management on a short-lived Trump executive order that sought to rid federal agencies of certain diversity and inclusion training.

By then, the 22-year-old had built a public persona as an up-and-coming student GOP leader. Even earlier than that, his name had been used to create an identity on a site for white supremacists.

Asked whether he was at the Jan. 6 riot, Krvaric initially told USA TODAY he was not. Pressed about the photos that online researchers say show him that day, Krvaric acknowledged he attended former President Donald Trump’s speech, but said he didn’t go inside the Capitol. Asked about images that appear to show him inside the Capitol, he then said he didn’t remember whether he went inside. Sent copies and links to the footage, he stopped responding.

As for the online persona, an email address in Krvaric’s first and middle names was used in 2016 to create a profile on a neo-Nazi website. That user praised Adolf Hitler, backed deportation of non-white people and expressed disgust of the LGBTQ+ population.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:01:27am

re: #219 Markm1960

Not pro Putin yet. Seems like she will have to get there eventually if she wants to truly be the republican nominee.

Lots of cognitive dissonance among Republicans. There still remain those — Lindsey Graham himself — who favor helping Ukraine. Now that might not be true among the voters but definitely still among many (maybe not a majority) of GOP legislators in Washington.

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:04:18am

Dis guy

USA Today has identified Oliver Krvaric, a young Republican star and scion of a powerful GOP family from San Diego, as one of the rioters at the Capitol on January 6.

He would also be the first full-time employee of the Trump administration identified entering the Capitol in the insurrection.

“Asked whether he was at the Jan. 6 riot, Krvaric initially told USA Today he was not. Pressed about the photos that online researchers say show him that day, Krvaric acknowledged he attended former President Donald Trump’s speech, but said he didn’t go inside the Capitol. Asked about images that appear to show him inside the Capitol, he then said he didn’t remember whether he went inside. Sent copies and links to the footage, he stopped responding

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Dangerman  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:05:00am

re: #224 Joe Bacon ✅

Offs

One effing minute!

;-)

228
wrenchwench  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:10:20am

re: #227 Dangerman

Offs

One effing minute!

;-)

A bit earlier:

Half the things i think, someone else eventually posts.

“Eventually” was not doing heavy lifting. Eventually accidentally threw it out of the park.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:16:49am

re: #224 Joe Bacon ✅

Asked whether he was at the Jan. 6 riot, Krvaric initially told USA TODAY he was not. Pressed about the photos that online researchers say show him that day, Krvaric acknowledged he attended former President Donald Trump’s speech, but said he didn’t go inside the Capitol. Asked about images that appear to show him inside the Capitol, he then said he didn’t remember whether he went inside. Sent copies and links to the footage, he stopped responding.

Lie, lie, lie, smokebomb. If the Republican party has a future, he has a bright future in it.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 28, 2023 • 11:28:09am

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