The Bob Cesca Podcast: Percocet Gunboobs

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Percocet Gunboobs — Trump received nearly $8 million from foreign governments during his presidency. Trump’s huge financial ties to China. New Epstein document is out and it names names. Aaron Rodgers vs Jimmy Kimmel. House Republican leadership endorses the Trump campaign. Russia’s disinformation attack continues, according to the ODNI. Another school shooting. Florida man arrested for threatening to assassinate Eric Swalwell. Hal Sparks’s Florida Man song. We have voter fraud! Bomb threats across America. With Jody Hamilton, David Ferguson, music by Matt Springfield, Michael Snyder-Barker, and more!

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115 comments
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nines09  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:24:53pm

Trump; “Where’s the 12 year old?”
Epstein; “Right over there.”

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:34:53pm

You can really feel the disappointment from the Beltway that the only Dem that most voters would immediately recognize that’s mentioned in the Epstein Docs…is Bill Clinton. Their hopes that Hunter, James, or even Joe himself would be in there have been dashed. Likewise not a single major Dem in the current party gets so much as a mention. Just Bill F’n Clinton, a guy most people made peace with being a hornball years ago. So now, instead of dealing with the reality that the GQP’s front-runner had a close relationship with both Epstein and Maxwell, we’re instead going to get a bunch of “think pieces” about how the Dems are somehow in a bind because Bill shows up in the Docs.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:37:45pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

“Why Democrats’ calls to investigation Clinton’s interaction with Epstein are incompatible with their calls to also investigate Trump.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:37:59pm

And the Democrats are not a cult that worships Bill Clinton.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:44:06pm

Bill Clinton showed what kind of man he is by publicly accusing Monica Lewinsky of lying. He wasn’t the worst president we ever had but personally he is a scumbag, and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he was involved with Epstein.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:47:05pm

Mastodon

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:56:21pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

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I still remember when the NG started showing up in DC, the lurid fantasies that the MAGAts engaged in about how Il Douche was gonna give the order and the crackdown would begin, the nation treated to images of NG troops clubbing BLM/Antifa protestors over the head with batons and choking them with tear and pepper gas.

And then it never happened because of that pesky Posse Comitatus Act that prevented Trump from turning the NG into his own private army, forcing him to ship in unmarked goons from various Cabinet agencies to do the dirty work.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:58:50pm

Well, it looks like Illinois isn’t alone…

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:00:16pm

re: #8 darthstar

Well, it looks like Illinois isn’t alone…

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Massachusetts

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:00:45pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

Was this the same day he had all those people tear gassed so he could do his church walk?

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:10:38pm

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:15:20pm

family update:

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:17:00pm

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:17:44pm

On X, advertisers wind up with their ads displayed next to fascist content.

On YouTube, advertisers place fascist ads before normal content.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:18:27pm

Also. Did someone say gunboobs?

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:23:08pm

re: #4 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And the Democrats are not a cult that worships Bill Clinton.

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Bill Clinton showed what kind of man he is by publicly accusing Monica Lewinsky of lying. He wasn’t the worst president we ever had but personally he is a scumbag, and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he was involved with Epstein.

Yeah, that’s what is going to aggravate the pundits the most, that there’s no mileage in more “Bill Clinton is a scumbag” coverage because nobody in the party is really arguing otherwise anymore. It’s like articles about new Weinstein allegations, who cares at this point? He’s a shriveled up husk of a human being who has lost all his supporters, the only people now who give a damn are the ones who think there’s fun to be had in the clubbing of deceased equines.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:23:58pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Also. Did someone say gunboobs?

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Ursula Andress in The 10th Victim (1965)

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:24:03pm

re: #13 retired cynic

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:27:03pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

Yeah, that’s what is going to aggravate the pundits the most, that there’s no mileage in more “Bill Clinton is a scumbag” coverage because nobody in the party is really arguing otherwise anymore. It’s like articles about new Weinstein allegations, who cares at this point? He’s a shriveled up husk of a human being who has lost all his supporters, the only people now who give a damn are the ones who think there’s fun to be had in the clubbing of deceased equines.

You’re neglecting the anti-Hillary element! I assume there is one…oh, yeah,

THIS MEANS HILLARY CAN NEVER BE ELECTED PRESIDENT!

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:28:25pm

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

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sagehen  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:29:00pm

how much leeway do we have to tell Israel what to do?

I’d love if the next time they ask for more aid, we make it contingent on Smotrich and Ben Gvir being removed from the cabinet.

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Captain Ron  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:29:47pm
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TarHellion  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:39:56pm

Family update:

Click to Reveal

My brother and I are going to talk with Dad on Saturday regarding Health Care Power of Attorney and Durable Power of Attorney. His decline over the past two months has been dramatic. We were able to get him to sign HIPPA authorizations for us last week with his primary care physician and set up an appointment with her later this month. I also was able to speak with the physician’s nurse about what my brother and I have witnessed and experienced. This will be a very difficult conversation to have because Dad can be a paranoid, obstinate person. But it is clear he has Parkinson’s Dementia or Lewy Body Dementia - given his gait and the repeated and confused calls or text messages regarding our recent meetings for lunch. He is also prone to falls, and his residence is in disarray compared to just three months ago. This should have been done years ago - but his ego and self-denial stood in the way. Just wish me and my brother luck that we can get him to understand.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:42:16pm

re: #22 Captain Ron

Imagine Thomas going to prison for tax evasion…oh wait…he’ll file an amended return and some billionaire will write a check for the taxes he owes.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:44:32pm

re: #23 TarHellion

You have every thought I can muster! I have watched that deterioration take down my husband, and tragic isn’t a strong enough word for it. Best wishes for holding things together!

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:47:52pm

re: #24 darthstar

Imagine Thomas going to prison for tax evasion…oh wait…he’ll file an amended return and some billionaire will write a check for the taxes he owes.

Then the Democrats can investigate whether he paid taxes on that gift.

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TarHellion  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:52:51pm

re: #25 retired cynic

Thank you! And so sorry about your husband.

Mom passed away 5 years ago today. Dad is a retired banker/accountant who always stayed on top of things. But right now my brother I don’t know if the bills are being paid.

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aatharuv  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:53:19pm

re: #26 Belafon

Then the Democrats can investigate whether he paid taxes on that gift.

My understanding of US tax code for normies was that gift income is _never_ taxable on the point of view of the recipient — only the giver. So everyone giving Thomas the gifts might be guilty of tax evasion but not Thomas himself.

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:55:48pm

re: #24 darthstar

Imagine Thomas going to prison for tax evasion…oh wait…he’ll file an amended return and some billionaire will write a check for the taxes he owes.

he might not go to prison, but two federal judges have been impeached and removed for tax evasion and another for making false financial disclosures. Another was impeached and removed for accepting gifts from litigants and attorneys.

As I’ve said for a while when it comes to Thomas and the Court’s issues with corruption - there is a means handling it, but it requires the political will to use the impeachment power.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:56:47pm

Mastodon

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austin_blue  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:58:02pm

Excellent essay:

journaloftheplagueyears.ink

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:58:49pm

re: #30 Vicious Babushka

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Captain Magic  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:06:30pm

The notorious Kim Davis has been hit with having to pay attorney’s fees to the plaintiffs when she was sued for failure to issue a marriage license to a gay couple.

electoral-vote.com

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austin_blue  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:11:44pm

Now she owes plaintiffs a total of $360,000, $260,000 in Attorney Fees and a $100,000 fine.

Suffer, you harridan!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:15:58pm

re: #4 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And the Democrats are not a cult that worships Bill Clinton.

The only 21st century Democratic cult I know of is the Bernie cult.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:16:37pm

Bill Clinton is a fucking scumbag, but he never attempted an insurrection so there’s that.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:17:39pm

re: #33 Captain Magic

The notorious Kim Davis has been hit with having to pay attorney’s fees to the plaintiffs when she was sued for failure to issue a marriage license to a gay couple.

electoral-vote.com

You know what this is? It’s the smallest violin in the world playing just for Kim Davis.

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:22:07pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

The only 21st century Democratic cult I know of is the Bernie cult.

populism tends to give way to a cult of personality

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:23:57pm

re: #38 KGxvi

populism tends to give way to a cult of personality

Bernie’s vision for America would be a good step in the right direction. OTOH, he’s an asshole.

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CleverToad  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:25:06pm

re: #23 TarHellion

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CleverToad  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:27:13pm

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:29:12pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

Bernie’s vision for America would be a good step in the right direction. OTOH, he’s an asshole.

I don’t trust populists or populism. The rejection of expertise and blaming whatever out-group is politically expedient is never a step in the right direction.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:29:43pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:34:52pm

re: #36 Ace Rothstein

Bill Clinton is a fucking scumbag, but he never attempted an insurrection so there’s that.

I always said I don’t care who the president is fucking as long as it’s not the American people.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:37:15pm

Finished burning through the Rolling Stone sci-fi lists. They might be right about 2001, but it makes no sense to read the list as a real rank-order. I picked up about a dozen that I both missed and care to look for.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:47:19pm

Mastodon

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:48:00pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Finished burning through the Rolling Stone sci-fi lists. They might be right about 2001, but it makes no sense to read the list as a real rank-order. I picked up about a dozen that I both missed and care to look for.

I need to see if someone has compiled the list into just a list, and then I can use it as a list to watch.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:53:36pm

re: #47 Belafon

Yeah—it was a chore on this old laptop.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:55:42pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

You can really feel the disappointment from the Beltway that the only Dem that most voters would immediately recognize that’s mentioned in the Epstein Docs…is Bill Clinton. Their hopes that Hunter, James, or even Joe himself would be in there have been dashed. Likewise not a single major Dem in the current party gets so much as a mention. Just Bill F’n Clinton, a guy most people made peace with being a hornball years ago. So now, instead of dealing with the reality that the GQP’s front-runner had a close relationship with both Epstein and Maxwell, we’re instead going to get a bunch of “think pieces” about how the Dems are somehow in a bind because Bill shows up in the Docs.

Wasn’t Bill Richardson also named?
Epstein’s party wasn’t Dems or GOP, it was the .001%
Plenty of freaks among the bored/mostly above the law/super rich.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:56:13pm

re: #32 Ace Rothstein

Because the Jewish-owned grocery store in Toronto makes policy in regards to Palestine.
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It has the logo IDF, did they actually think the IDF is recruiting Canadians in Canada?

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SerialUpDinger  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:57:43pm

New Years Day Hike

A view from the Santa Monica Mountains. Channel Islands out there in the distance. Oxnard plain visible.

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:57:59pm

re: #29 KGxvi

he might not go to prison, but two federal judges have been impeached and removed for tax evasion and another for making false financial disclosures. Another was impeached and removed for accepting gifts from litigants and attorneys.

As I’ve said for a while when it comes to Thomas and the Court’s issues with corruption - there is a means handling it, but it requires the political will to use the impeachment power.

And as long are there are at least 34 Republican Senators, said “will” will somehow NEVER materialize: regardless of how great or how blatant Clarence’s corruption might be.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:58:51pm

Oh look isn’t this cute? Somebody made up a new word for “Jew someone down”

Mastodon

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:59:39pm

re: #28 aatharuv

My understanding of US tax code for normies was that gift income is _never_ taxable on the point of view of the recipient — only the giver. So everyone giving Thomas the gifts might be guilty of tax evasion but not Thomas himself.

It depends. Pretty sure that the giver has to report it. Only the first 10k/year/person is exempted. After that the giver can deduct from the max allowed for estate taxes, otherwise the recipient has to report it. I’m not a CPA though, so take my understanding with a grain of salt.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:59:41pm

re: #49 JC1

Wasn’t Bill Richardson also named?
Epstein’s party wasn’t Dems or GOP, it was the .001%
Plenty of freaks among the bored/mostly above the law/super rich.

Bill Richardson suddenly made sense when I heard that one of Epstein’s facilities was in New Mexico. Name on a document. Did his name appear a lot?

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:59:55pm

re: #26 Belafon

Then the Democrats can investigate whether he paid taxes on that gift.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:03:10pm

re: #28 aatharuv

My understanding of US tax code for normies was that gift income is _never_ taxable on the point of view of the recipient — only the giver. So everyone giving Thomas the gifts might be guilty of tax evasion but not Thomas himself.

this is true.
otoh (and dangerman can correct me if I’m wrong), in general, if a debt is canceled, forgiven, or discharged for less than the amount owed, the amount of the canceled debt is taxable.

ETA (I hit “post” too soon): IIRC, Thomas’ RV “loan” was forgiven.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:04:13pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

The only 21st century Democratic cult I know of is the Bernie cult.

Anti GMO tend to be lefties. Latest one is effective altruists. Anti-vaxxers tended to be lefties pre covid.
Granted you said Democratic not lefty, but Bernie is not a officially a Democrat either.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:06:23pm

re: #57 Backwoods Sleuth

this is true.
otoh (and dangerman can correct me if I’m wrong), in general, if a debt is canceled, forgiven, or discharged for less than the amount owed, the amount of the canceled debt is taxable.

ETA (I hit “post” too soon): IIRC, Thomas’ RV “loan” was forgiven.

yep:
Justice Thomas never repaid luxury RV loan: Senate report

WASHINGTON (CN) — Justice Clarence Thomas had a $267,230 loan forgiven by his wealthy health executive friend, according to a new report by the Senate Finance Committee released Wednesday.

Anthony Welters loaned Thomas the money in 1999 to buy his 40-foot luxury motor coach. By 2008, the loan had been forgiven, but there is no documentation showing Thomas actually paid it off, nor that he reported it as a forgiven debt to the Internal Revenue Service.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:10:41pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Bill Richardson suddenly made sense when I heard that one of Epstein’s facilities was in New Mexico. Name on a document. Did his name appear a lot?

Not sure. Don’t care about the Epstein stuff enough to look into it in detail; just remember seeing the name mentioned. Of course Stephen Hawking was on the list as well.

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:13:07pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Bill Richardson suddenly made sense when I heard that one of Epstein’s facilities was in New Mexico. Name on a document. Did his name appear a lot?

Does it matter? Richardson is deceased, and unlike that Other Bill, was never an A-List politico (though with a decent record). Maybe he was a “typical Epstein client” (I.e. wealthy pedophile pervert) or not, but still, not much of a name to hang second-hand smears on (though I’m sure some GOPers will try).

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:15:15pm

re: #60 JC1

Not sure. Don’t care about the Epstein stuff enough to look into it in detail; just remember seeing the name mentioned. Of course Stephen Hawking was on the list as well.

Epstein knew enough not to put his best friends’ names in the wrong places. I don’t expect any actionable surprises.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:15:44pm

re: #44 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I always said I don’t care who the president is fucking as long as it’s not the American people.

As long as the relationship is consensual and the person is an adult. (Yes — I know, legally a minor cannot consent to such a relationship). But let’s not forget, although they prettied it up, that was the real reason for the GOP impeachment of Clinton — he lied about a consensual affair with a young, but adult, woman. Any political party that would impeach someone on such ridiculous charges, back when they had sane members, would be willing to impeach on even a more frivolous basis given the clown car they have devolved into.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:16:26pm

re: #24 darthstar

Imagine Thomas going to prison for tax evasion…oh wait…he’ll file an amended return and some billionaire will write a check for the taxes he owes.

Paying off back taxes.
Id expect the hunter biden treatment then.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:17:05pm

re: #61 Jay C

Does it matter? Richardson is deceased, and unlike that Other Bill, was never an A-List politico (though with a decent record). Maybe he was a “typical Epstein client” (I.e. wealthy pedophile pervert) or not, but still, not much of a name to hang second-hand smears on (though I’m sure some GOPers will try).

Doesn’t matter to me. I was am not a fan of Bill Richardson.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:19:03pm

Pretty sure the Epstein list is people that rode on his private jet, and that’s all. Most people just flew from somewhere that wasn’t his pedo island to New York City.

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Unabogie  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:19:11pm

re: #64 Dangerman

Paying off back taxes.
Id expect the hunter biden treatment then.

Between Thomas not paying his taxes, and Trump also not paying his taxes while taking millions from China, it’s still amazing to see the GOP rail about Hunter Biden, who is not elected to any office.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:19:58pm

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:21:46pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

Like Fuckface, the flight logs show him flying from Palm Beach to New York a bunch of times on Epstein’s jet. Not inherently suspicious, they were friends after all…

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:23:23pm

Stephen Hawking on the list? Not surprised. Epstein ingratiated himself with the most influential scholars and scientists using his wealth.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:24:01pm

I want to know who Epstein took to his pedo rape island.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:25:25pm

re: #57 Backwoods Sleuth

this is true.
otoh (and dangerman can correct me if I’m wrong), in general, if a debt is canceled, forgiven, or discharged for less than the amount owed, the amount of the canceled debt is taxable.

ETA (I hit “post” too soon): IIRC, Thomas’ RV “loan” was forgiven.

The implication from the story is that all those gifts “could” be classified as substitute salary or earned income. It’s sort of novel and might be a stretch. I don’t know how often the tactic is used, or enforced.

It has to do whether they were inducing him to keep the job by supplementing the salary he was complaining he wasn’t getting.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:26:51pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

I want to know who Epstein took to his pedo rape island.

I expect we’ll see names like now dead Rush Limbaugh who apparently had a thing for going on sex tours with underage victims of both sexes.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:26:51pm

re: #28 aatharuv

My understanding of US tax code for normies was that gift income is _never_ taxable on the point of view of the recipient — only the giver. So everyone giving Thomas the gifts might be guilty of tax evasion but not Thomas himself.

On his death bed a billionaire gives a gift of his entire fortune to his son, and then dies. If what you say is true, estate taxes would never be collected aside from unexpected/accidental deaths.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:27:23pm

re: #63 Hecuba’s daughter

As long as the relationship is consensual and the person is an adult. (Yes — I know, legally a minor cannot consent to such a relationship). But let’s not forget, although they prettied it up, that was the real reason for the GOP impeachment of Clinton — he lied about a consensual affair with a young, but adult, woman. Any political party that would impeach someone on such ridiculous charges, back when they had sane members, would be willing to impeach on even a more frivolous basis given the clown car they have devolved into.

And I always says that was between Hilary and him. I think he was simultaneously a scumbag personally and a decent president.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:28:15pm

re: #57 Backwoods Sleuth

this is true.
otoh (and dangerman can correct me if I’m wrong), in general, if a debt is canceled, forgiven, or discharged for less than the amount owed, the amount of the canceled debt is taxable.

ETA (I hit “post” too soon): IIRC, Thomas’ RV “loan” was forgiven.

Ps yes the loan forgiveness is more or less right (it’s taxable)

And it’s the donor who’s responsible for gift tax and filing if gifts are over the limits.

Gee I wonder if any of those gifts went to Ginnie.

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Markm1960  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:30:20pm

It’s the unified estate and gift tax, estates and gifts are linked.

You can give up to $18k per year to an individual without it having any tax effect. You can also gift split, meaning a husband and a wife can each give $18k to the same individual before there are any tax consequences.

When you give over $18k, the amounts over $18 k are subject to tax. However there is a lifetime exemption. Currently the exemption is about $13m.

So, let’s say you are wealthy and give out gifts of $20m to 10 people over a period of years. $18k per person per year is exempt. The remaining is subject to tax. However the tax on the first $13m is exempt. And you owe tax on the remaining $7m.

It’s a lifetime exemption, so if after those $20m gifts you die and leave $20m to your kids, your estate would owe tax on the $20m.

It can get complex. There are mandatory filings you gave to do each year you give gifts, and the filings are cumulative, so the govt can trace your gifts and track how much of your lifetime exemption you use.

Kind of dry kind of boring and out of most peoples dreams because a relatively low number of people have $13m net worth’s, and those who do hire Cracker Jack estate planners who can minimize the tax burden.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:31:10pm

re: #77 Markm1960

Its

a beautiful day in the neighborhood?

79
Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:31:26pm

re: #67 Unabogie

Between Thomas not paying his taxes, and Trump also not paying his taxes while taking millions from China, it’s still amazing to see the GOP rail about Hunter Biden, who is not elected to any office.

You know why

D vs R

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:31:31pm

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And I always says that was between Hilary and him. I think he was simultaneously a scumbag personally and a decent president.

He was impeached for perjury, although it was perjury about a bj. He should have answered truthfully or told them to pound sand.

I have no problems with the age disparity, but there was an inherent power imbalance at play that made it unethical.

81
Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:34:11pm

Who remembers that horror movie from the ‘70’s where Karen Black brings home a tchotchka from a vacation in Mexico and it turns out to hold the soul of an indigenous warrior.

I would like to see a remake of that but instead of a Mexican tchotchka it’s a Matryoshka. And every time you kill one another keeps popping out until there is an army of assorted sized babushka running around.

Sleep well!

82
Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:35:39pm

re: #74 JC1

On his death bed a billionaire gives a gift of his entire fortune to his son, and then dies. If what you say is true, estate taxes would never be collected aside from unexpected/accidental deaths.

There would still be a gift tax return.
There would still be an estate return.
There would be a tax calculated
If the estate has nothing left to pay it, you can be 100% comfortable theyd get it from the donee/recipient

83
Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:36:01pm

re: #81 Vicious Babushka

TRILOGY OF TERROR

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:36:49pm

Trilogy of Terror (1975)

85
Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:37:21pm

re: #77 Markm1960

Its

Monty Python’s flying circus

87
Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:42:39pm

Venue scraps MTG Florida event after invite read: ‘3rd Anniversary of Jan 6’

alternet.org

Good.

A Florida event featuring United States Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) was canceled Thursday after the hosting venue learned the gathering intended to commemorate the third anniversary of January 6, NBC News exclusively reports.

“Please be advised that Westgate was not made aware of the purpose of this event when we were approached to host a book signing,” Westgate Resorts in Kissimmee said in a statement, according to the report. “This event has been canceled and is no longer taking place at our resort.”

Let that traitor have her party where it really belongs—Chick-fil-A

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:44:33pm

re: #82 Dangerman

There would still be a gift tax return.
There would still be an estate return.
There would be a tax calculated
If the estate has nothing left to pay it, you can be 100% comfortable theyd get it from the donee/recipient

Right. I had a more complete reply up thread. Gift taxes are a tax burden on the receiver over 10k/year/source unless the giver files a form that essentially deducts from the lifetime gift allowance which is tied to the estate tax exemption.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:48:08pm

re: #59 Backwoods Sleuth

yep:
Justice Thomas never repaid luxury RV loan: Senate report

We’re stuck with Thomas on the court until his coronary arteries completely block up.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:48:54pm

My brain is crammed with useless bits of information like the horror movie in which Karen Black is attacked by a demon doll. I can’t help it. It’s like my brain has a mind of its own.

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Markm1960  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:48:55pm

re: #78 Eventual Carrion

a beautiful day in the neighborhood?

re: #85 Dangerman

Monty Python’s flying circus

Fat fingered and hit post early, way early.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:50:37pm

re: #88 JC1

Right. I had a more complete reply up thread. Gift taxes are a tax burden on the receiver over 10k/year/source unless the giver files a form that essentially deducts from the lifetime gift allowance which is tied to the estate tax exemption.

Ezzacto

93
darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:53:18pm

re: #89 Joe Bacon ✅

We’re stuck with Thomas on the court until his coronary arteries completely block up.

I’d like him to see his wife in prison before that happens, and I won’t set a timeline on that.

94
teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:53:26pm

Because Donald Trump became president, I found myself typing out the words “pedo rape island” in the comments in 2024.

How low we have sunk…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:54:31pm

re: #80 JC1

He was impeached for perjury, although it was perjury about a bj. He should have answered truthfully or told them to pound sand.

I have no problems with the age disparity, but there was an inherent power imbalance at play that made it unethical.

There was no way he should have had to respond to questions about his sex life. As said that’s between him and his wife of the American people are not negatively impacted.

And Lewinsky was a set up. Everyone know Clinton was a hound dog and that was used to get that famous blue dress. There’s no way that wasn’t a set up.

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Markm1960  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:54:45pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

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I think I remember the little beastie stabbing her feet under the door as she tried to hold it shut. Freaked me out.

Re: Thomas, if the giver said the RV loan was a gift when forgiven and reported it on a gift tax return. Then all is good. If not a gift and Thomas reported the forgiven loan as income, then all is good. However I seriously doubt that anything was done correctly.

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mmmirele  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:57:08pm

I had to go into the office today, but I found these on bulletin boards all around the campus (behind the button):

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As far as I know, one branch has unionized. I know of no other union efforts, but I have no idea, obviously.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:57:19pm

re: #95 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There was no way he should have had to respond to questions about his sex life. As said that’s between him and his wife of the American people are not negatively impacted.

And Lewinsky was a set up. Everyone know Clinton was a hound dog and that was used to get that famous blue dress. There’s no way that wasn’t a set up.

Who keeps a stained blue dress? (Bubba is also an asshole, for the damage he did.)

99
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:58:01pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

My brain is crammed with useless bits of information like the horror movie in which Karen Black is attacked by a demon doll. I can’t help it. It’s like my brain has a mind of its own.

Want that a made-for-tv movie?

And didn’t she kill people under the influence of that demon doll?

Or am I misremembering?

100
JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:59:04pm

re: #95 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There was no way he should have had to respond to questions about his sex life. As said that’s between him and his wife of the American people are not negatively impacted.

And Lewinsky was a set up. Everyone know Clinton was a hound dog and that was used to get that famous blue dress. There’s no way that wasn’t a set up.

My understanding was that she wanted to get her presidential knee pads. I don’t think she was a set up, but Linda Tripp messed with her head enough so she kept the dress.

101
JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:00:29pm

BTW, Monica Lewinsky has some of the (intentionally) funniest tweets I’ve seen.

102
silverdolphin  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:01:45pm

Amazing drone footage of humpback whale in Washington

Amazing drone footage of humpback whale in Washington

Humpback mom and her baby down by Tacoma in the Puget Sound. Look how close to the shore they are (people on the beach are a few hundred yards away.

103
darthstar  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:02:59pm

It’s a good time to buy Raytheon stock. Ukraine has made the Patriot system the must-have of missile defense systems. The other day they shot down 10 out of 10 Khinzal hypersonic missiles.

Mastodon

104
teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:03:45pm

re: #101 JC1

105
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:04:06pm

re: #100 JC1

My understanding was that she wanted to get her presidential knee pads. I don’t think she was a set up, but Linda Tripp messed with her head enough so she kept the dress.

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

106
mmmirele  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:07:57pm

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

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107
Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:11:27pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

That’s the one! I want to see something like that with a vicious Babushka doll.

108
Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:12:09pm

re: #103 darthstar

It’s a good time to buy Raytheon stock. Ukraine has made the Patriot system the must-have of missile defense systems. The other day they shot down 10 out of 10 Khinzal hypersonic missiles.

[Embedded content]

This large purchase will knock down the unit cost for all users.

109
Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:13:49pm

well what was Politico able to get their hands on?

Arrest footage of Trump co-defendant provides glimpse into Jack Smith probe

“They were f—king relentless,” former Black Voices for Trump director Harrison Floyd said of his confrontation with FBI agents dispatched by the special counsel.

Boo fucking hoo, asshole!

Special counsel Jack Smith’s probe of Donald Trump’s election subversion has mostly played out in stuffy conference rooms and secret grand jury chambers, but last February, it nearly turned violent.

During a tense confrontation with FBI agents who were trying to serve a subpoena, Harrison Floyd — a 2020 Trump campaign aide — considered grabbing one of the agents’ guns, Floyd told local police officers who arrived at his door shortly afterward. His exchange with the local police was captured in body camera footage obtained by POLITICO through a public records request.

The footage shows the aftermath of a heated encounter between Floyd and two FBI agents dispatched by Smith. In the video, a winded, bare-chested Floyd complains to police in Rockville, Maryland, that he has just been accosted by a pair of men who pursued him into his apartment building. One flashed a gun, prompting Floyd — a Marine Corps veteran and mixed martial arts fighter who saw combat in the Iraq War — to consider wrestling it away, Floyd says in the video
.
“If he reached up, I probably could have tried to stop the muzzle, but he would have definitely threw my hand,” Floyd tells the officers, who were responding to a 911 call he placed about armed men barging into his building. “But the other one was right next to me. So, if I went for that gun, and he pulled a gun, now I’m fighting two guys with guns, that’s not good. So, I backed up and went away. … I could’ve been killed really fucking easily, if I wasn’t smart.”

politico.com

110
Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:29:02pm

Just waiting for the Guardian to post that second wave of Epstein documents…

111
wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:29:19pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

My brain is crammed with useless bits of information like the horror movie in which Karen Black is attacked by a demon doll. I can’t help it. It’s like my brain has a mind of its own.

All the other nerves in your body are hooked up to your brain. It’s a single unit (made up of lots of kinds of cells, including in your head.) Your left arm could be your brain’s mind.

Can you think on your feet?

112
silverdolphin  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:32:39pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon ✅

Just waiting for the Guardian to post that second wave of Epstein documents…

Here you go. Second wave of court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein unsealed

113
Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:43:22pm

re: #87 Joe Bacon ✅

Venue scraps MTG Florida event after invite read: ‘3rd Anniversary of Jan 6’

alternet.org

So DJT, MTG et al didn’t engage in the insurrection, and in any case it was an inside job committed by the FBI to make Trump supporters look bad, but they’re holding anniversary events to celebrate it?

114
sagehen  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:22:16pm

re: #113 Dangerman

So DJT, MTG et al didn’t engage in the insurrection, and in any case it was an inside job committed by the FBI to make Trump supporters look bad, but they’re holding anniversary events to celebrate it?

and they had shirts made ahead of time.

115
Dangerman  Jan 5, 2024 • 4:19:43am

re: #109 Joe Bacon ✅

well what was Politico able to get their hands on?

Arrest footage of Trump co-defendant provides glimpse into Jack Smith probe

“They were f—king relentless,” former Black Voices for Trump director Harrison Floyd said of his confrontation with FBI agents dispatched by the special counsel.

Boo fucking hoo, asshole!

Special counsel Jack Smith’s probe of Donald Trump’s election subversion has mostly played out in stuffy conference rooms and secret grand jury chambers, but last February, it nearly turned violent.

During a tense confrontation with FBI agents who were trying to serve a subpoena, Harrison Floyd — a 2020 Trump campaign aide — considered grabbing one of the agents’ guns, Floyd told local police officers who arrived at his door shortly afterward. His exchange with the local police was captured in body camera footage obtained by POLITICO through a public records request.

The footage shows the aftermath of a heated encounter between Floyd and two FBI agents dispatched by Smith. In the video, a winded, bare-chested Floyd complains to police in Rockville, Maryland, that he has just been accosted by a pair of men who pursued him into his apartment building. One flashed a gun, prompting Floyd — a Marine Corps veteran and mixed martial arts fighter who saw combat in the Iraq War — to consider wrestling it away, Floyd says in the video
.
“If he reached up, I probably could have tried to stop the muzzle, but he would have definitely threw my hand,” Floyd tells the officers, who were responding to a 911 call he placed about armed men barging into his building. “But the other one was right next to me. So, if I went for that gun, and he pulled a gun, now I’m fighting two guys with guns, that’s not good. So, I backed up and went away. … I could’ve been killed really fucking easily, if I wasn’t smart.”

politico.com

Don’t the Rs say you’re just supposed to “comply”?


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