Video: ‘Putting Her on Notice’: Jack Smith Losing Patience With Judge Cannon in Trump Documents Case

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Here’s an update on Trump’s stolen documents case in Florida. There are so many Trump prosecutions going on it’s hard to stay current on all the details!

Special Counsel Jack Smith is showing increasing frustration with Judge Aileen Cannon in the Trump classified documents case as the judge has declined to protect the identity of a witness Smith says is being threatened. Joyce Vance, former U.S. attorney, discusses with Alex Wagner.

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1
retired cynic  Feb 12, 2024 • 10:56:27am

Bob Edwards, radio host who built NPR’s ‘Morning Edition,’ dies at 76. Headline at WAPO. I’m an NPR person, who donates every month.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2024 • 10:58:21am

Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) (Official HD Video)

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 10:58:30am

re: #1 retired cynic

Sustainer?

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Backwoods Sleuth  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:02:24am

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:03:37am

Mastodon

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:04:13am

re: #3 PhillyPretzel ✅

Yes. As long as I can manage it. Have done it for many years now.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:05:28am

re: #6 retired cynic

I give once a year to PBS. That way I can keep track of it.

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jeffreyw  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:06:14am

Mastodon

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Jay C  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:07:14am

re: #8 jeffreyw

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Wisdom of the ages….LOL

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Backwoods Sleuth  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:09:45am

Mastodon

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(((Archangel1)))  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:17:34am
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Belafon  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:17:46am

balloon-juice.com has unrolled them so you can go read why it’s taking a while to get the spending bill out of the Senate.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:19:09am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

All I can say try to remember this when DT says something.

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Unabogie  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:20:46am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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MAGA is a very dangerous movement, focused on taking basic ignorance and glorifying it into the ultimate virtue.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:20:59am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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As reported by Fox News!

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:22:03am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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sizzzzlerz  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:25:28am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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I wonder if their own research suggested that might happen?

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aatharuv  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:28:05am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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El Salvador’s *very popular autocrat, Nayib Bukele, apparently supported its use in his country. (He took hydroxychloroquine himself.)

*He got reelected with >80% of the vote and it could very well reflect his actual popularity given his mass arrests of gang members (as much as 1% of the country’s total population) to solve the problem of mass gang violence and the world’s largest homicide rate.

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garzooma  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:29:16am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

New studies show…
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Does anyone know about these studies? I’m not seeing anything in Google News.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:32:50am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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Now I wonder if a madman who had access to the best medical treatment in the world smells like shit because he was eating horse paste.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:34:10am

re: #20 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Now I wonder if a madman who had access to the best medical treatment in the world smells like shit because he was eating horse paste.

The main side effect was to own the Liberals and show the eleitist pharmasooticals that down-home horse doctor medicine is always best!!!

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nines09  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:36:51am

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:38:28am

re: #22 nines09

Cooper!

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JC1  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:40:31am

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

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No way that’s a real fox news tweet or real statistics. Ivermectin is useless for covid, but it won’t do that.

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:41:00am

re: #12 Belafon

Thanks!

Now I know to not hold my breath on this.

And that the issue, not surprisingly, is Republicans in disarray.

Still trying to figure out where I misplaced my life…

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:45:49am

re: #22 nines09

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:51:44am

January 14, 2022:
Ivermectin Scripts for COVID Cost Insurers Nearly $130M Annually: Study

“…In the week of August 13, 2021, private and Medicare plans paid an estimated $1,568,996 and $924,720, respectively, for ivermectin prescriptions for COVID-19, the study shows. Multiplying those amounts by 52 weeks yielded an estimated total annual payment of $129,673,240.

Restrict Coverage?
The authors noted that this wasteful spending exceeds the estimated annual Medicare spending on unnecessary imaging for low back pain. The amount of waste, they said, is even higher because their estimates don’t include Medicaid spending.

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Randall Gross  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:56:14am

If you do Paramount+ they’ve added A 1966 Tony Curtis conman comedy set in Europe “Arrevaderci Baby!”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 12, 2024 • 11:57:46am

ok, this day needs to be over, Skull And Bones releases tonight

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Backwoods Sleuth  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:00:56pm

Mastodon

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BeachDem  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:02:52pm

Going back to the songs on the last thread—

Everyone’s Gone to the Moon

was playing on the radio when the NY blackout began. I remember it well (I was having a non-parental-approved after school party when it started)

An aircheck of New York City radio station WABC from November 9, 1965 reveals disc jockey Dan Ingram doing a segment of his afternoon drive time show, during which he noted that a record he was playing (Jonathan King’s “Everyone’s Gone to the Moon”) sounded slow, as did the subsequent jingles played during a commercial break. Ingram quipped that the King record “was in the key of R.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:02:57pm

re: #30 Backwoods Sleuth

Nail on the head.

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nines09  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:05:17pm

NSFW

instagram.com

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silverdolphin  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:05:22pm

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

It is false. There is no such study about invermectin or a text from Fox. Beware false news no matter how much we want it to be true.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:08:28pm

re: #30 Backwoods Sleuth

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So depressing. Last night, the host of the Superbowl party said to me — “Just accept it. Trump will be re-elected”. My sister and friends are all in dismay over what Hur did. As my sister said, Republicans don’t care about Trump’s mental capabilities, but Democrats will turn against Biden and not vote because they feel he is no longer mentally alert.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:12:55pm

re: #24 JC1

No way that’s a real fox news tweet or real statistics. Ivermectin is useless for covid, but it won’t do that.

2022 fake

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:14:43pm

re: #11 (((Archangel1)))

I am so sorry not sorry to hear this.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:16:00pm

re: #31 BeachDem

Going back to the songs on the last thread—

Everyone’s Gone to the Moon

was playing on the radio when the NY blackout began. I remember it well (I was having a non-parental-approved after school party when it started)

An aircheck of New York City radio station WABC from November 9, 1965 reveals disc jockey Dan Ingram doing a segment of his afternoon drive time show, during which he noted that a record he was playing (Jonathan King’s “Everyone’s Gone to the Moon”) sounded slow, as did the subsequent jingles played during a commercial break. Ingram quipped that the King record “was in the key of R.

YouTube

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Joe Bacon ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:16:23pm

re: #31 BeachDem

CL’d (may her memory be revered) from last thread in regards to Jonathan King

A real sick puppy.

en.wikipedia.org

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:16:34pm

re: #36 Dangerman

2022 fake

Shit. When a story is too good to be true…

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:16:47pm

Watch the interview.

Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversaw the Mueller investigation, joins CNN’s Jake Tapper to discuss the special counsel report on President Biden’s handling of classified documents.

trib.com

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:17:55pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

So depressing. Last night, the host of the Superbowl party said to me — “Just accept it. Trump will be re-elected”. My sister and friends are all in dismay over what Hur did. As my sister said, Republicans don’t care about Trump’s mental capabilities, but Democrats will turn against Biden and not vote because they feel he is no longer mentally alert.

“R’s don’t need to vote. Just accept it. Biden will be re-elected.”

see how easy that is?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:18:29pm

Yes it’s Glory Day—when I open the freezer and have the very first Girl Scout Thin Mint of this year’s crop.

Ahhhh with a shot of Kona espresso.

Glorious…

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garzooma  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:19:36pm

re: #40 darthstar

Shit. […]

As it turns out :-).

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:21:00pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

So depressing. Last night, the host of the Superbowl party said to me — “Just accept it. Trump will be re-elected”. My sister and friends are all in dismay over what Hur did. As my sister said, Republicans don’t care about Trump’s mental capabilities, but Democrats will turn against Biden and not vote because they feel he is no longer mentally alert.

“Are you going to vote?”
“Are you going to encourage everyone you know to vote?”
If everyone answers yes to those questions, Biden will be easily reelected.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:25:00pm

Julia Child and Lauren Groveman are making matzah. Mmm. (Not kosher for Passover) I do love PBS.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:26:32pm

re: #45 Belafon

“Are you going to vote?”
“Are you going to encourage everyone you know to vote?”
If everyone answers yes to those questions, Biden will be easily reelected.

It’s a rematch. Things have gone well for Biden since he won last time. No matter how big of a Trump supporter a person is, they gotta be worried. They’re throwing out the best arguments they have so early, it spells doom.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:27:37pm

For the people who want to panic, we need to turn it into a problem they can manage:
1. Make sure you vote.
2. Tell your friends to vote.
3. Tell your friends to tell their friends to vote.

If that’s all they can manage, then that’s all we need from them, and that’s all they need to worry about.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:32:12pm

Biden already won. He just has to do it again.

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Unabogie  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:33:53pm

re: #41 Shropshire Slasher

Watch the interview.

trib.com

Why? What has Rod shown us that ought to earn some trust?

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silverdolphin  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:38:25pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

So depressing. Last night, the host of the Superbowl party said to me — “Just accept it. Trump will be re-elected”. My sister and friends are all in dismay over what Hur did. As my sister said, Republicans don’t care about Trump’s mental capabilities, but Democrats will turn against Biden and not vote because they feel he is no longer mentally alert.

People underestimate the lasting power of Dobbs. The SCOTUS will decide on medicine abortions this summer. There will be more horrifying cases. I’ve had my handwringing moments but I have been surprised to see how rapidly so many people have stood up for Biden. Reporters have pushed back. Hell, Bibi who hates Biden’s guts and has a lot to insult him, stood up. Same with Romney. Lots of articles about Trump being as bad, forgetting his wife or when he got married.

The SOTU will be a turning point IMHO. He has been giving great speeches of late and I expect a lot will tune in to see if he fucks up (and I expect we will again be dealing with a government shutdown which I expect he will use). Who needs a Superbowl interview when he has this chance. I expect him to be amazing. The bully pulpit at its best.

In a few months, Buden will remove marijuana from Schedule I. That will get noticed. More people will be removed from paying student loans. That will get noticed. I fully expect he has a lot of other things to bring forth during the campaign.

The thing to remember is that the Pacific War was essentially decided 6 months after Pearl Harbor, when we destroyed the Japanese cariers at Midway. But we had to fight for 3 more horrifying years to prove that victory.

We will have to fight for our victory. And a big part of that is for those of us who can to back Biden with money and with words. If you have the strengthm don’t let people you know see the handwringing. Tell them how great a President Biden is. Be his best marketing agent, only use the truth to win. As it always does, eventually.

It is okay to get discouraged. Let someone else pick up the baton and move us forward. We are for each other as we are for Biden. And when you can, retake the baton and take up the fight again.

Push the fear back and tell them how he is one of the best ever, that he overcame a speech impediment so give him a break, that he has produced one of the best economies in our history one that is so historic that economists do not understand it, that it will be studied for years to figure out why it is so amazing.

That he is one of the most empathetic leaders we have ever had, overcoming personal tragedy that would have broken most of us, in order to take on the hardest job in the world because we need him. They ask Trump what he has sacrificed and he says he had some bad business deals. Ask Biden and he can list a wife, a daughter and a son. And that his remaining son is being pilloried because he was actually human and made mistakes, yet Biden still calls his one to tell him he is loved. Do we ever hear of Trump doing that? Remind them of the old saying that no parent should outlive a child and remind them what Biden has lost.

Remind them that Trump evaded military service by lying. Remind them that Biden had a son who fought in combat for America, and likely died because of that. Trump went to Dover Air Base to see returning caskets just 4 times. Pence went every time bodies came back. So has Biden. And we can hear the telephone calls he has made to bereaved parents to get an understanding of his mental state.

Each of us here could add so much more to this list. Biden is the best President of my lifetime during one of its most dangerous times. He may not be as strong as he used to be but even so he is one of the best, We have to be there to help him.

We win because all of us help. /soap box

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:38:42pm

re: #48 Belafon

For the people who want to panic, we need to turn it into a problem they can manage:
1. Make sure you vote.
2. Tell your friends to vote.
3. Tell your friends to tell their friends to vote.

If that’s all they can manage, then that’s all we need from them, and that’s all they need to worry about.

here’s a bunch more suggestions
What Should Biden Do?

do they really think the guy who’s the actual president, who has objectively accomplished so much, at the top of his game - call it a super bowl if you want - is all of a sudden gonna crumble and cave?

pfft.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:39:53pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:40:47pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:42:24pm

Okay - back to work at this conference thingy I’m at…but I’ll leave you with a little inspiration.

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:43:52pm

re: #51 silverdolphin

just went over to google news.
too big to screen grab

if you search for “Hur” all you get is ‘church’
no mention of him or his report

you what there’s a lot of? “NATO”

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silverdolphin  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:44:08pm

re: #52 Dangerman

here’s a bunch more suggestions
What Should Biden Do?

do they really think the guy who’s the actual president, who has objectively accomplished so much, at the top of his game - call it a super bowl if you want - is all of a sudden gonna crumble and cave?

pfft.

You know, I was ready to say the Chiefs were going to lose after that first fumble, and then the nothingburger that was the first half. But looked what happened because talented people stayed the course, overcame what looked in the moment to be overwhelming problems, and just used their talents.

Same things here. Sports have a lot of problems in today’s capitalistic markets. But at heart they show us that adversity can be overcome. Stay confident.

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dat_said  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:49:27pm

re: #53 darthstar

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Was she personally “insulted” by it like Giuliani (joemygod.com)?

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:50:02pm

Mastodon

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Unabogie  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:51:07pm

Reading now about Rosenstein’s endorsement of the job Hur just did. I see that Hur literally made up an accusation that Biden alerted his lawyers about the documents. This only appears in the executive summary and nowhere else in the “report.”

Hur speculates that if Biden alerted his lawyers, Hur wouldn’t be able to find about because of an imagined privilege that Biden never asserted because Hur never even asked the question. And yet Hur put that front and center as if it happened.

So that’s the tripe that Rod thinks is credible, and our resident troll thinks we should all give a listen to.

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:52:13pm

re: #59 sagehen

re: #53 darthstar

Silverman’s masto-posts render fully in the Master Spy, but not in the comment thread.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:55:45pm

re: #60 Unabogie

Reading now about Rosenstein’s endorsement of the job Hur just did. I see that Hur literally made up an accusation that Biden alerted his lawyers about the documents. This only appears in the executive summary and nowhere else in the “report.”

Hur speculates that if Biden alerted his lawyers, Hur wouldn’t be able to find about because of an imagined privilege that Biden never asserted because Hur never even asked the question. And yet Hur put that front and center as if it happened.

So that’s the tripe that Rod thinks is credible, and our resident troll thinks we should all give a listen to.

Thank you for reading up on that.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:55:45pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

Silverman’s masto-posts render fully in the Master Spy, but not in the comment thread.

It’s fine in the comment thread too when you load the page. It’s partial after loading the comment via the New Comments button. I’d guess it’s probably bad on Auto too.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:57:09pm

re: #57 silverdolphin

You know, I was ready to say the Chiefs were going to lose after that first fumble, and then the nothingburger that was the first half. But looked what happened because talented people stayed the course, overcame what looked in the moment to be overwhelming problems, and just used their talents.

Same things here. Sports have a lot of problems in today’s capitalistic markets. But at heart they show us that adversity can be overcome. Stay confident.

at that level they are effing champions.
they dont whine (or as i said crumble - usually*)
they’re supposed to be the best of the best - professionals

Biden is too
tfg isnt even Double A ball. he’s barely T-ball

* note san francisco was the winner of the most lopsided super bowl (xxiv / 1990)

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wrenchwench  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:57:46pm

re: #63 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

It’s fine in the comment thread too when you load the page. It’s partial after loading the comment via the New Comments button. I’d guess it’s probably bad on Auto too.

I just reloaded the page. They fully rendered. Thank you.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:58:22pm
In the days after FBI Director James Comey’s May 2017 firing, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein discussed wearing a “wire” to record conversations with President Trump and recruiting Cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office, The New York Times reports.

cnn.com

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steve_davis  Feb 12, 2024 • 12:59:23pm

I had to cancel a Reverb sale, which I hate to do, but I wound up selling a guitar for 1700 bucks, out of which Reverb wanted to rake 87 off for shipping (reasonable, as it was going across country), 70 or so for a “processing fee,” 80 or so for a “sales fee,” and then another 80 or so for a “bump fee.” I’m missing a few things because when all was said and done the 1700 dollar sale was going to net me 1400. Fuck it. It’s gonna be me, selling my guitar for cash, out of the trunk of my car, in a Walmart parking lot, while some vaguely European looking dude is swirling something around in a test tube to see what the color change tells him about my Alhambra’s street value.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:00:16pm

Any word whether Aileen Cannon stepped in her own shit again today? Seriously, the best thing for her career as a judge would be for the 11th Circuit to yank her from Trump’s trial and she could go back to being an unknown justice who doesn’t do big cases.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:03:03pm

re: #67 steve_davis

If you want to simply churn used gear sales into new gear you can use sweetwater’s Gear Exchange site

sweetwater.com

They collect no fees but pay in the form of a Sweetwater credit account. If you need real money then eBay and Reverb remain the only real game in town unless you feel like dealing with the Wild West of Facebook or Craigslist.

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:14:03pm
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jaunte  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:14:45pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

The clown show never ends.

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steve_davis  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:15:00pm

re: #69 Florida Panhandler

If you want to simply churn used gear sales into new gear you can use sweetwater’s Gear Exchange site

sweetwater.com

They collect no fees but pay in the form of a Sweetwater credit account. If you need real money then eBay and Reverb remain the only real game in town unless you feel like dealing with the Wild West of Facebook or Craigslist.

I felt bad for the buyer that I had to back out of a sale with, but godamnit, it’s a really nice luthier-built classical guitar with madagascar rosewood, which has now become unavailable except for “old stock” because it’s been overharvested like the brazilian rosewood. And it has a really nice case. I don’t mean one of those shitty hard cases that everybody’s sister who was taking guitar lessons had back in the 70’s, but one you could actually send through an airport with a reasonable sense that your guitar would still be in one piece at the end of the trip, if it hadn’t been stolen by a baggage ruffler. i’m not walking away from that with “Fender Player Plus” money.

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:17:06pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

“Co-chair” because she has no idea how to do the job unless there’s someone to tell her.

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KGxvi  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:23:46pm

for those convinced that Trump’s re-election is inevitable… remember that a solid third of the electorate still isn’t ready to accept that it will be Trump and Biden in the general. Also, remember that he has never gotten more than 47% of the popular vote. The economy is doing well, inflation is down, and vibes are a lagging indicator.

But most importantly: most people still aren’t following the election closely. They are not seeing/hearing Trump on a daily basis. When they do, a lot of them are going to remember how much they dislike him. They’re also going to see how fucking crazy he sounds (forget going to 11, he’s at about 14 now).

My gut still tells me that Biden is going to win re-election fairly easily. So, I’m going to hold on to some cautious optimism.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:24:03pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

Please, please, please.

The Trumps will steal so much even an Alabama GOP pol couldn’t get elected.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:24:11pm

re: #73 jaunte

“Co-chair” because she has no idea how to do the job unless there’s someone to tell her.

Gotta tie it to the family somehow.

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KGxvi  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:26:17pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Please, please, please.

The Trumps will steal so much even an Alabama GOP pol couldn’t get elected.

Rick Wilson was on Molly Jong-Fast’s podcast and said something along the lines that the RNC only has $8m cash on hand, a shit ton of debt, and are taking out a credit line… Trump has already hallowed out the finances.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:29:22pm

re: #73 jaunte

“Co-chair” because she has no idea how to do the job unless there’s someone to tell her.

also to get ‘family’ in there

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:29:55pm

re: #77 KGxvi

Rick Wilson was on Molly Jong-Fast’s podcast and said something along the lines that the RNC only has $8m cash on hand, a shit ton of debt, and are taking out a credit line… Trump has already hallowed out the finances.

That’s excellent news, although I’m sure the GOP donor class is using its pocket change to provide the GOP its usual ocean of dark money.

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Vicious Babushka  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:29:58pm

re: #73 jaunte

“Co-chair” because she has no idea how to do the job unless there’s someone to tell her.

Lara Trump & Ivanka Trump remind me so much of Princess De Lamballe & Marie Antoinette.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:30:09pm

re: #76 Belafon

Gotta tie it to the family somehow.

gmta

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nines09  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:30:10pm

re: #67 steve_davis

The bump fee is something you would have had to click on to activate.
Higher views or some nonsense.The shipping price is actually not bad. The rest is out of my knowledge. All I know is Reverb and Ebay are shadows of what once was. I post my stuff on both and only post the minimum I would accept considering the fees. Not sold guitar on Reverb yet.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:34:05pm

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:37:24pm

As expected Trump filed a request for stay to the corrupted court per MSNBC

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:40:16pm

re: #84 Joe Bacon ✅

And the AP just posted a story about that.

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ckkatz  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:42:49pm

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:43:44pm
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Randall Gross  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:43:54pm

@ skeptical science looking for some help.

Mastodon

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Jay C  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:45:52pm

re: #80 Vicious Babushka

Lara Trump & Ivanka Trump remind me so much of Princess De Lamballe & Marie Antoinette.

So whose severed head is going to be paraded around on a pike to freak out the other???

Personally, I’m indifferent: either way works…..

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:47:42pm

re: #41 Shropshire Slasher

Watch the interview.

trib.com

Garland Reno’d Biden.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:51:45pm

re: #84 Joe Bacon ✅

As expected Trump filed a request for stay to the corrupted court per MSNBC

re: #85 PhillyPretzel ✅

And the AP just posted a story about that.

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:53:14pm
“If we’ve learned anything from the Trump years, it’s that one problem is a tragedy, but a thousand problems are just white noise. So don’t be defensive about the age and don’t complain about the media fixating on it. Lean all the way in. Make it a part of the candidate’s identity…”

“Meanwhile, the problem with Donald Trump is NOT that he, too, is old. The problem with Trump is NOT that he sometimes forgets what day it is, or who he’s running against.”

“The problem with Trump is that he’s a madman who wants dangerous things.”

Link

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:53:51pm

re: #92 Dangerman

it worked with ‘dark brandon’

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Nerdy Fish  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:55:19pm

re: #91 Backwoods Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Deny cert, you cowards. You’re already giving him a big win in letting him stay on the ballot in the first place.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:57:05pm

When someone tells me they’re concerned about the age issue, I respond by asking if you can give me concrete examples of how his age has affected his job performance. Did he forget and send a drone to bomb the wrong country? Did he order massive tariffs on Canada?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:57:24pm

re: #94 Nerdy Fish

Deny cert, you cowards. You’re already giving him a big win in letting him stay on the ballot in the first place.

The question—are there 5 votes for a stay…or 4 votes for a hearing from the corrupted court…

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BeachDem  Feb 12, 2024 • 1:59:14pm

re: #80 Vicious Babushka

Lara Trump & Ivanka Trump remind me so much of Princess De Lamballe & Marie Antoinette.

They remind me of Heather Chandler and Heather Duke from Heathers.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:02:20pm

Lara Trump would be the perfect person to run the RNC…wait…I thought the Trumps were banned from working on charities….

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nines09  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:04:09pm

You know it’s not right when I can dig dirt out of a flower pot outside on February 12th.
And tomorrow is Fat Tuesday.
Mardi Gras.
Said I would do Mardi Gras with money after I did the train ride, flophouse nights, sleep in Tulane Stadium, drink ourselves blind at breakfast tour of all things hidden to the public when Glen Campbell was Bacchus.
When you doing Wild Turkey shots with your bacon and eggs…..
Festival awaits.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:04:27pm

Mastodon

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:08:49pm
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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:10:16pm

re: #91 Backwoods Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The questions presented are:

I. Whether the doctrine of absolute presidential immunity includes immunity from criminal prosecution for a President’s official acts, i.e., those performed within the “‘outer perimeter’ of his official responsibility.” Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731, 756 (1982) (quoting Barr v. Matteo, 360 U.S. 564, 575 (1959)).

II. Whether the Impeachment Judgment Clause, U.S. CONST. art. I, § 3, cl. 7, and principles of double jeopardy foreclose the criminal prosecution of a President who has been impeached and acquitted by the U.S. Senate for the same and/or closely related conduct that underlies the criminal charges.

I. there is no such doctrine (eta: for not official acts)
II. that’s not how you defended yourself in the impeachment

ianal
- impeachment and criminal prosecution are unrelated. it says so right there.
- more importantly, tfg is not criminally charged with what he was impeached for anyway

impeachment: incitement of insurrection
dc case:
- conspiracy to defraud the United States
- conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding
- obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding
- conspiracy against rights

nope, no double jeopardy

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:11:41pm

re: #98 darthstar

Lara Trump would be the perfect person to run the RNC…wait…I thought the Trumps were banned from working on charities….

only in New York State.

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Dangerman  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:12:30pm

re: #100 darthstar

Trump’s lawyers argument to the SC for a stay on his trial is that it would be a violation of the 1st Amendment … of his voters.

I’m guessing they got their law degree at Trump University.[Embedded content]

but WAPO thinks tfg has built the equivalent of a ‘boutique law firm’

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:15:25pm

re: #94 Nerdy Fish

Deny cert, you cowards. You’re already giving him a big win in letting him stay on the ballot in the first place.

Is there a deadline on this or can they just drag it out as long as they want?

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:16:37pm

re: #104 Dangerman

but WAPO thinks tfg has built the equivalent of a ‘boutique law firm’

I’m sure they sell a great potpourri.

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darthstar  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:18:42pm

Mastodon

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:19:35pm

re: #73 jaunte

“Co-chair” because she has no idea how to do the job unless there’s someone to tell her.

She didn’t care about the job. She wants access to the money.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:21:04pm

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there a deadline on this or can they just drag it out as long as they want?

They could refuse to hear it; otherwise, our nation is lost.

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steve_davis  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:31:47pm

re: #74 KGxvi

for those convinced that Trump’s re-election is inevitable… remember that a solid third of the electorate still isn’t ready to accept that it will be Trump and Biden in the general. Also, remember that he has never gotten more than 47% of the popular vote. The economy is doing well, inflation is down, and vibes are a lagging indicator.

But most importantly: most people still aren’t following the election closely. They are not seeing/hearing Trump on a daily basis. When they do, a lot of them are going to remember how much they dislike him. They’re also going to see how fucking crazy he sounds (forget going to 11, he’s at about 14 now).

My gut still tells me that Biden is going to win re-election fairly easily. So, I’m going to hold on to some cautious optimism.

I agree. I’ve watched Magnus Carlsen play chess for the better part of 15 years now. It always goes the same way. Carlsen finds himself in a slightly worse position, based on computer analysis. Commentators somberly mention that the game will be a draw, or almost certainly a draw. Then Carlsen will grind his way into an endgame. The position will still mostly look equal, but suddenly whatever side of the board Carlsen is playing will start to present chances. And then, unless he is playing Caruana or Nakamura or one of the three or four other players in the world with god-like defensive prowess, he’ll end up winning, and a lot of times by the end it won’t even look close.

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aatharuv  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:35:06pm

...

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 12, 2024 • 2:43:20pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Please, please, please.

The Trumps will steal so much even an Alabama GOP pol couldn’t get elected.

2020 Republican campaign accountants still haven’t found the $600+ million unaccounted for - missing from presidential campaign coffers.

The Republican campaign ran out of money just weeks before the 2020 election, and were begging for contributions.

Mainstream Republicans have conveniently forgotten that election debacle.

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Vicious Babushka  Feb 12, 2024 • 4:43:26pm

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