Sometimes the truth slips out. His people will insist it was just a joke.
Wondering if any of the usual media scolds will notice that nobody on the left is threatening the jurors or the judge or the judge’s family in the Hunter Biden case.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-11T17:40:41.687Z
re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Sometimes the truth slips out
Like a greasy wet shart… which is fitting for Trump.
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Or calling the proceedings “fake” or “rigged”.
re: #2 Charles Johnson
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It’s going to confuse the fuck out of them when they go to interview Dems and Biden supporters and encounter not frothing rage but shrugs and indifference. This is the son of Joe Biden, their idol and messiah, how can they not be outraged that he’s been found guilty?!
Pond pumps went off for the first time in six months. Since the panel and battery upgrade.
Today is the first long day of cloud and rain.
And we still got 5-6 hours of battery first.
Not bad at all
re: #475 Dangerman
“Moose tracks”, ” cotton candy “?
Those varieties of ice cream list their ingredients. Moose Tracks is a trademarked brand of fudge. If instead they used some knock-off fudge (or fudge flavouring) that would be a similar case.
Cotton candy flavour is entirely artificial.
MAGA is taking the conviction they wanted so bad pretty hard.🤣 https://t.co/3JlxfrHDC6
— Rachel Bitecofer 🗽💡🔭🦆 (@RachelBitecofer) June 11, 2024
The MAGAts finally stopped for a moment to figure out that Hunter got convicted of, uh, a gun charge?
Of course, if the cops were to start hauling everyone in with the same fact pattern, I’d quickly run out of popcorn.
If NPR used the same standards for Bidens and Trumps, Hunter’s convictions would be for a bureaucratic misstatement, not gun offenses.
re: #480 Targetpractice
….they can never make their conspiracy theories into reality and the justice system doesn’t allow them to bring criminal charges because “we feel it’s true!”
It’ll always be the _______ crime family no matter who’s running
re: #8 ericblair
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The MAGAts finally stopped for a moment to figure out that Hunter got convicted of, uh, a gun charge?
Of course, if the cops were to start hauling everyone in with the same fact pattern, I’d quickly run out of popcorn.
Thomas Massie is more a gun-loving libertarian; he actually voted to confirm Biden’s election.
re: #8 ericblair
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The MAGAts finally stopped for a moment to figure out that Hunter got convicted of, uh, a gun charge?
Of course, if the cops were to start hauling everyone in with the same fact pattern, I’d quickly run out of popcorn.
I guess Rep. Massie there is saying his children smoke weed. /s
re: #9 wrenchwench
If NPR used the same standards for Bidens and Trumps, Hunter’s convictions would be for a bureaucratic misstatement, not gun offenses.
Funny how “process crime” only works for a Republican.
re: #488 Eventual Carrion
Yep, like I like to quote:
Religious freedom is, I can’t do that it is against my religion.
Religious freedom ISN’T, YOU can’t do that it is against MY religion.
The problem is they’re morphing into “it’s my ‘sincerely held belief’ that you shouldnt be allowed to do certain things”
re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Sometimes the truth slips out. His people will insist it was just a joke.
Already are
re: #14 Dr. Matt
MTG does not use the process of thinking. She just parrots what DT tells her.
re: #8 ericblair
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The MAGAts finally stopped for a moment to figure out that Hunter got convicted of, uh, a gun charge?
Of course, if the cops were to start hauling everyone in with the same fact pattern, I’d quickly run out of popcorn.
It’s the same pack of asshats who are still bummed to this day that, despite all the BS they slung everywhere about crooked land deals and political influence campaigns, the best they could get Bill Clinton on was lying about an affair. And that the campaign to destroy him over that did more harm to them than it did to him.
re: #2 Charles Johnson
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Kind of amazing how that only happens to trials involving tfg at the moment
Merchan is the devil
Engoron? who? Yesterday’s news/judge
re: #14 Dr. Matt
It doesn’t need to make sense any more. It’s a mob rally.
re: #15 Dangerman
The problem is they’re morphing into “it’s my ‘sincerely held belief’ that you shouldnt be allowed to do certain things”
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re: #17 PhillyPretzel ✅
MTG does not use the process of thinking. She just parrots what DT tells her.
Actually, she’s parroting what she hears in his farts whilst sniffing them.
These are people who were promised that the “laptop” contained evidence of everything from influence peddling to child pornography, that if the Feds did even a cursory investigation they’d have enough to not only put the entire Biden clan behind bars but also many prominent Dems and liberal public figures. That it was enough in that one HDD to totally wreck half the country for a generation or longer. And that there was no way they could ever possibly defend themselves in the courts.
So to watch Hunter get convicted of lying on a Form 4473 five years ago, something that they or somebody they know has done at least once in their lives, just isn’t the high they were promised.
re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Those varieties of ice cream list their ingredients. Moose Tracks is a trademarked brand of fudge. If instead they used some knock-off fudge (or fudge flavouring) that would be a similar case.
Cotton candy flavour is entirely artificial.
Really? Why shouldn’t I “expect” cotton candy in my ice cream called cotton candy?
In court records, Kahala sought to have the case dismissed, arguing that a detailed list of the ice cream ingredients are published online. A regional director of operations for Kahala said in court records that no flavor placard at the Levittown location indicated the ice creams are “made with” any particular ingredient.
For the flavors named in the lawsuit, he said “consumers are able to see for themselves there are no ‘chunks’ of what appear to be any specific ingredients in the ice cream that would indicate a particular ice cream contains a certain ingredient.”
The real point is she probably got her $3 back for the cone she bought.
So buy Haagen-Dazs if it has ingredients you prefer
Sue the company? Really.?
Well this should be enlightening….
not a done deal but getting closer…
keystonenewsroom.com.
re: #8 ericblair
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The MAGAts finally stopped for a moment to figure out that Hunter got convicted of, uh, a gun charge?
Of course, if the cops were to start hauling everyone in with the same fact pattern, I’d quickly run out of popcorn.
Massie is wrong
There are millions of marijuana users who own guns in this country, and none of them should be in jail for purchasing or possessing a firearm against current laws.
Current law, they should.
Its literally* your job to change the law
* that is literally one of the few times the word literally does literally apply
Trump defends Hunter Biden and vows to ‘save’ him if elected
Sounds like a winning campaign strategy. 🤨😐😑😶
re: #27 Dangerman
Really? Why shouldn’t I “expect” cotton candy in my ice cream called cotton candy?
The real point is she probably got her $3 back for the cone she bought.
So buy Haagen-Dazs if it has ingredients you prefer
Sue the company? Really.?
Yes. Really.
How about we stop allowing companies to lie to consumers? Not only lie but charge premium prices on top of the lies - that are based on the lies?
I’m 100% with her.
re: #27 Dangerman
Really? Why shouldn’t I “expect” cotton candy in my ice cream called cotton candy?
The real point is she probably got her $3 back for the cone she bought.
So buy Haagen-Dazs if it has ingredients you prefer
Sue the company? Really.?
Yes. Sue the company. It’s false advertising. That’s the case she (and the class action) is seeking.
No one is falsely advertising what is in cotton candy ice cream.
For that matter, Moose Tracks could sue them for trademark infringement.
Haagen-Dazs does not sell Moose Tracks variety.
Link
re: #30 Dr. Matt
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Sounds like a winning campaign strategy. 🤨😐😑😶
God forbid,
Hunter should not accept the pardon
re: #27 Dangerman
Really? Why shouldn’t I “expect” cotton candy in my ice cream called cotton candy?
The real point is she probably got her $3 back for the cone she bought.
So buy Haagen-Dazs if it has ingredients you prefer
Sue the company? Really.?
Suing the company over this is ridiculous, given the product wasn’t harmful and the worst that can be said is that it is overpriced. However, it certainly sounds like their advertising could credibly be accused of misinformation.
re: #34 Hecuba’s daughter
Suing the company over this is ridiculous, given the product wasn’t harmful and the worst that can be said is that it is overpriced. However, it certainly sounds like their advertising could credibly be accused of misinformation.
Which is grounds for a lawsuit for her and everyone else in the class.
“We shouldn’t hold them to account because it was inexpensive and they only ripped off people a few dollars at a time.”
re: #30 Dr. Matt
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Sounds like a winning campaign strategy. 🤨😐😑😶
It’s a fake.
re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Which is grounds for a lawsuit for her and everyone else in the class.
“We shouldn’t hold them to account because it was inexpensive and they only ripped off people a few dollars at a time.”
Can’t a federal agency intervene for dishonest advertising, rather than requiring a class action lawsuit?
McGovern: The only Trump Derangement Syndrome going on around here is on the other side of the aisle. They are saying that Biden orchestrated the conviction of his own son in order to justify the criminal charges against Trump. That is how you think when you are in a cult pic.twitter.com/NRv3RLwb7F
— Acyn (@Acyn) June 11, 2024
re: #26 Targetpractice
These are people who were promised that the “laptop” contained evidence of everything from influence peddling to child pornography, that if the Feds did even a cursory investigation they’d have enough to not only put the entire Biden clan behind bars but also many prominent Dems and liberal public figures. That it was enough in that one HDD to totally wreck half the country for a generation or longer. And that there was no way they could ever possibly defend themselves in the courts.
So to watch Hunter get convicted of lying on a Form 4473 five years ago, something that they or somebody they know has done at least once in their lives, just isn’t the high they were promised.
Well, when the laptop is treated like a ball you use to play fetch with your dog and has passed through more hands that the top secret documents tfg tossed out like party favors at his home in FL, one tends to develop a certain reticence regarding the validity of the data written to it regardless of the MAGAs champagne wishes and caviar dreams.
re: #15 Dangerman
The problem is they’re morphing into “it’s my ‘sincerely held belief’ that you shouldnt be allowed to do certain things”
Many years ago I tried to explain this to a tearful evangelical (on Free Republic) who told me that her sincerely held observance was telling other people the “Good News.” I said that it was not other people’s sincerely held practice to listen.
re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter
Can’t a federal agency intervene for dishonest advertising, rather than requiring a class action lawsuit?
You think the feds care about ice cream? Or false advertising $6.00 at a time?
Why are you opposed to a lawsuit? I’m completely missing your logic.
re: #38 Targetpractice
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I have long claimed that TDS applies to Trump supporters because (except for the wealthy who want him for tax cuts or environmental degradation) they are universally deranged.
re: #39 Dr. Matt
The headline changing that is what happened to me when the Hunter Biden verdict came down. I still feel bad about not getting it correct the first time.
re: #44 PhillyPretzel ✅
The headline changing that is what happened to me when the Hunter Biden verdict came down. I still feel bad about not getting it correct the first time.
Don’t feel bad for things that are not your fault. That serves no one. ♥️
🚨🚨Lot of news today but this shouldn't get lost.
Donald Trump and his advisers are scheming to make military service "mandatory" for Americans. JD Vance appears to be all in too.
Get the word out: a #TrumpDraft is coming under #Project2025 👀😳
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...— Murshed Zaheed (@murshedz.bsky.social) 2024-06-11T17:41:11.664Z
re: #40 sizzzzlerz
Well, when the laptop is treated like a ball you use to play fetch with your dog and has passed through more hands that the top secret documents tfg tossed out like party favors at his home in FL, one tends to develop a certain reticence regarding the validity of the data written to it regardless of the MAGAs champagne wishes and caviar dreams.
Emptywheel’s been blogging on this for awhile and the lengths that Weiss’ office had to go to use anything from the “laptop” have been extraordinary. Since (as you mentioned) the chain of custody is an absolute mess, the only evidence they’re going to be able to use is any that they can verify against evidence obtained elsewhere or witness testimony.
re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter
Can’t a federal agency intervene for dishonest advertising, rather than requiring a class action lawsuit?
The Federal Trade Commission could. If there’s a dangerous additive in the ice cream the FDA could go after them for using illegal additives.
If Moose Tracks (tm) wanted to go after the seller for false advertising, they would also be required to sue to enforce their trademark.
re: #42 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You think the feds care about ice cream? Or false advertising $6.00 at a time?
Why are you opposed to a lawsuit? I’m completely missing your logic.
Because I really don’t like having to go the route of lawsuits and courts to get justice in cases where the government should already be handling the issues. This seems like a clear case when an agency (at least before SCOTUS stops them) could intervene and tell the company to change its ways.
re: #46 Charles Johnson
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Keep stories like that in your back pocket for the next time you run into a loud-mouthed little shit saying he can’t vote for Biden because of Gaza.
re: #42 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You think the feds care about ice cream? Or false advertising $6.00 at a time?
Why are you opposed to a lawsuit? I’m completely missing your logic.
I was part of a class-action lawsuit which was resolved in the favour of the class over price-fixing of milk. I got $7.00 or so out of the lawsuit when it was settled.
Times millions of people that was a lot of price-fixing.
re: #46 Charles Johnson
Captain Bone Spurs, who fought his personal Vietnam in Studio 54, wants to conscript undesirables and POC into the military (and his base for that matter) so that he disappears them from the picture.
The military got rid of the draft for a reason. This would bring back all of the problems of a conscription force, including the cost of having to train people who don’t want to be there.
re: #31 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Yes. Really.
How about we stop allowing companies to lie to consumers? Not only lie but charge premium prices on top of the lies - that are based on the lies?
I’m 100% with her.
Almost all the cold stone flavors are 99% “ice cream”, less than 1% flavoring
And that’s to start
There are no vanilla beans in their vanilla bean ice cream
No pink lemonade or lemons in their pink lemonade sorbet
No alcohol in their mojito sorbet
No orange in their orang e sorbet
There is alcohol in their rum raisin
There is lemon pulp in their lemon sorbet
Interestingly pistachio pudding ice cream has pistachios and almonds but at 1% I wonder how big the chunks are, if at all
Is this dishonest? I don’t know
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I’m not defending the company.
I understood cold stone was about the “add in” experience. Make your own etc.
I think the lawsuit is trump level.
She got a disappointing cone. Not to her expectations.
Move on.
re: #53 lawhawk
Captain Bone Spurs, who fought his personal Vietnam in Studio 54, wants to conscript undesirables and POC into the military (and his base for that matter) so that he disappears them from the picture.
The military got rid of the draft for a reason. This would bring back all of the problems of a conscription force, including the cost of having to train people who don’t want to be there.
Just the efforts to reinstate it will be an absolute hoot. Just the efforts to craft a conscription system that meets all the constantly changing criteria of the Evangelical Right alone will be legen…wait for it…dary.
There was once a case (though it was a criminal case) where a person who worked in the payment processing centre for active duty military personnel was sent to prison for a long time for embezzlement.
The government used to pay only whole-dollar amounts in pay cheques. Cents would be kept on account until they surpassed a full dollar, to make cheque accounting easier.
Someone wrote a software program to divert a few cents from each cheque to their own account in Switzerland.
Each active duty person only lost a few cents.
After that came to light, the law was changed to pay out exact amounts.
re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
The Federal Trade Commission could. If there’s a dangerous additive in the ice cream the FDA could go after them for using illegal additives.
If Moose Tracks (tm) wanted to go after the seller for false advertising, they would also be required to sue to enforce their trademark.
Let me clear up
“Moose tracks” was the judges reference.
while he’s letting the case go forward
*he* suggested should you expect actual moose tracks in your pint?
re: #55 Targetpractice
Service guarantees citizenship*.
Would you like to know more.
* on your untimely death. It will not extend to your descendants.
They were returning an airsoft gun. They complied and threw the weapon down, but then the man with the gun felt unsafe…
Myers said he thought he saw a teen reach for something in his waistband, so he fired multiple times.
According to court documents, he stood over the teen on the ground and continued to fire.
re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
I was part of a class-action lawsuit which was resolved in the favour of the class over price-fixing of milk. I got $7.00 or so out of the lawsuit when it was settled.
Times millions of people that was a lot of price-fixing.
My dad’s estate just got $12.30 from a novo-nordisk settlement
He died in 2000
538 has cranked up its model of the election and as of today makes President Biden a slight favorite at 53% likelihood of winning to 47% for Trump. Since the guilty verdict came down, Trump’s lead in 548’s aggregated polls has dropped from 1.7% to 0.9%. The more Americans see of Trump, the more they will be reminded of how much they dislike him.
re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea
They were returning an airsoft gun. They complied and threw the weapon down, but then the man with the gun felt unsafe…
This case infuriates me so much. I’m of the opinion that if you are a civilian and you carry a firearm in public which then you kill someone with it that is not justified your charge is an automatic 1st degree murder with intent. No ifs, ands, or buts. 1st degree pre-meditated murder.
re: #46 Charles Johnson
Not to worry, The rich kids will have an out from military service like they always have in the US.
Dear ol’ dad will simply make a sizable contribution to the Trump Foundation/ Republican Party and all worries about little Chad having to go through boot camp and carry a rifle occupying the nearest liberal American city will be over.
re: #53 lawhawk
Captain Bone Spurs, who fought his personal Vietnam in Studio 54, wants to conscript undesirables and POC into the military (and his base for that matter) so that he disappears them from the picture.
The military got rid of the draft for a reason. This would bring back all of the problems of a conscription force, including the cost of having to train people who don’t want to be there.
It’s no coincidence that the Tories are also trying to ram through a “mandatory service” law in Britain. I’m increasingly convinced that the global far right is coordinating all of these fascist moves we’re seeing.
re: #58 lawhawk
Service guarantees citizenship*.
Would you like to know more.
* on your untimely death. It will not extend to your descendants.
A lot of Boomers about to be reminded about why it was so ridiculous in the 60s and 70s that your kid could be shipped off to die in a fetid, humid AF jungle as young as 18 but couldn’t vote until he was 21.
re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea
They were returning an airsoft gun. They complied and threw the weapon down, but then the man with the gun felt unsafe…
Last paragraph:
The shooting came about an hour after a public safety meeting kicked off in Renton. The meeting was for Renton Police to talk about tackling crime, safety and cracking down on gun violence. According to Renton Police, the King County Sheriff’s Office was having a training exercise near the parking lot, so they were quick to the scene.
I’ll bet they weren’t talking about protecting teenagers from 50 year old off-duty security guards. Until they had to.
re: #64 Charles Johnson
It’s no coincidence that the Tories are also trying to ram through a “mandatory service” law in Britain. I’m increasingly convinced that the global far right is coordinating all of these fascist moves we’re seeing.
Coordination in detail by fascists is both unlikely and unnecessary — the historical models are there for fascists worldwide to ape, and it’s not as if fascism can have any new ideas not related to the specifics of seizing power.
re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
There was once a case (though it was a criminal case) where a person who worked in the payment processing centre for active duty military personnel was sent to prison for a long time for embezzlement.
The government used to pay only whole-dollar amounts in pay cheques. Cents would be kept on account until they surpassed a full dollar, to make cheque accounting easier.
Someone wrote a software program to divert a few cents from each cheque to their own account in Switzerland.
Each active duty person only lost a few cents.
After that came to light, the law was changed to pay out exact amounts.
Every budding CPA learns about salami embezzlement (stealing rounding errors/mils) in their first year.
re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea
he thought he saw a teen reach for something in his waistband
A well-worn script.
re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
There was once a case (though it was a criminal case) where a person who worked in the payment processing centre for active duty military personnel was sent to prison for a long time for embezzlement.
The government used to pay only whole-dollar amounts in pay cheques. Cents would be kept on account until they surpassed a full dollar, to make cheque accounting easier.
Someone wrote a software program to divert a few cents from each cheque to their own account in Switzerland.
Each active duty person only lost a few cents.
After that came to light, the law was changed to pay out exact amounts.
The Superman III/Office Space gambit.
re: #65 Targetpractice
A lot of Boomers about to be reminded about why it was so ridiculous in the 60s and 70s that your kid could be shipped off to die in a fetid, humid AF jungle as young as 18 but couldn’t vote until he was 21.
So I was listening to an AFN Alternative Top 40 show on AFN during the Second Gulf War. They were playing some great stuff, including Alcohaulin’ Ass by HELLYEAH.
Then the song was abruptly broken off and replaced by a news report I’d heard the previous week.
Guess they didn’t want to remind their people about what they were unable to access…
re: #63 Florida Panhandler
Not to worry, The rich kids will have an out from military service like they always have in the US.
Dear ol’ dad will simply make a sizable contribution to the
TrumpBone-Spurs Foundation/ [] and all worries about little Chad having to go through boot camp and carry a rifle occupying the nearest liberal American city will be over.
re: #69 jaunte
A well-worn script.
SYG simply required the murderer to come with a plausible excuse and encourages them to ensure that no witnesses survive to contradict them
re: #53 lawhawk
Captain Bone Spurs, who fought his personal Vietnam in Studio 54, wants to conscript undesirables and POC into the military (and his base for that matter) so that he disappears them from the picture.
The military got rid of the draft for a reason. This would bring back all of the problems of a conscription force, including the cost of having to train people who don’t want to be there.
re: #63 Florida Panhandler
Not to worry, The rich kids will have an out from military service like they always have in the US.
Dear ol’ dad will simply make a sizable contribution to the Trump Foundation/ Republican Party and all worries about little Chad having to go through boot camp and carry a rifle occupying the nearest liberal American city will be over.
re: #65 Targetpractice
A lot of Boomers about to be reminded about why it was so ridiculous in the 60s and 70s that your kid could be shipped off to die in a fetid, humid AF jungle as young as 18 but couldn’t vote until he was 21.
re: #67 EPR-radar
Coordination in detail by fascists is both unlikely and unnecessary — the historical models are there for fascists worldwide to ape, and it’s not as if fascism can have any new ideas not related to the specifics of seizing power.
You know they’re thinking “can’t protest me if they’re drafted”, but they apparently forget that part of the Vietnam War years…
re: #30 Dr. Matt
Trump defends Hunter Biden and vows to ‘save’ him if elected
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Sounds like a winning campaign strategy. 🤨😐😑😶
Soon to become the 2nd most popular MAGA joke after the one in which the punch line is, “you can’t hunt in a baited field.”
re: #54 Dangerman
Almost all the cold stone flavors are 99% “ice cream”, less than 1% flavoring
And that’s to startThere are no vanilla beans in their vanilla bean ice cream
No pink lemonade or lemons in their pink lemonade sorbet
No alcohol in their mojito sorbet
No orange in their orang e sorbet
There is alcohol in their rum raisin
There is lemon pulp in their lemon sorbet
Interestingly pistachio pudding ice cream has pistachios and almonds but at 1% I wonder how big the chunks are, if at allIs this dishonest? I don’t know
LinkI’m not defending the company.
I understood cold stone was about the “add in” experience. Make your own etc.
I think the lawsuit is trump level.
She got a disappointing cone. Not to her expectations.
Move on.
So because other class actions weren’t brought against other potential false advertising, this false advertising claim should not be pursued and everyone else should move on, whilst you defend the company over this false advertising claim.
They don’t sell pink lemonade, mojito, orange sorbet (they do sell Dreamsickle ice cream, but Dreamsickle is a trademark).
They do sell Ghiradelli ice cream (but the ingredient list doesn’t include that trademark brand of chocolate).
Vanilia flavour is already a legal definition of vanillin.
There are no pistachios in the pistachio ice cream. That’s the claim.
Cold Stone Creamery Ice Cream Varieties with Ingredients (goes to their Website)
re: #46 Charles Johnson
I’m sure the Trump Draft will exclude True Believers like Kyle Rittenhouse, John McEntee, Charlie Jerk and Chuck C!
re: #64 Charles Johnson
It’s no coincidence that the Tories are also trying to ram through a “mandatory service” law in Britain. I’m increasingly convinced that the global far right is coordinating all of these fascist moves we’re seeing.
Much like the National Service “proposal,” this one is likely to also fall apart under the smallest amount of scrutiny. Like where the fuck all these new raw recruits will be housed and trained. A quick Google search says that percentage of Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 measure roughly 32 million as of 2022. Take 10% and you’re still talking over 3 million young adults who are going to be housed, clothed, fed, equipped, and trained.
The more plausible explanation is that the MIC is so desperate for fresh infusions of cash now that the “War on Terror” has wound down and recruitment numbers have fallen short of quotas that they’re openly suggesting drafting millions of unwilling Americans just to justify the expense.
Facebook cares so much about the people it harvests information from part 435,90…
Venerable Sam Ash Music stores are closing. They are clearing inventory.
And on Facebook there are literally hundreds of scammer sites taking, or attempting to take money, posing as Sam Ash and Facebook is fine with it.
Saw one user reported one scammer to FB and was told they are all good with the ad.
sigh…..
re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Which is grounds for a lawsuit for her and everyone else in the class.
“We shouldn’t hold them to account because it was inexpensive and they only ripped off people a few dollars at a time.”
Reminds me of the cases back in the 1960s where chicken pot pie didn’t contain chicken and cherry pie had no cherries. Pistachios are a nut, not a flavor. If they weren’t putting actual pistachios in the ice cream, they should call it pistachio-flavored. I think she has a case.
It’s happening in France too.
We also have compulsory draft reinstated here and sigh.
— Aliette de Bodard (@aliettedb.bsky.social) 2024-06-11T19:19:06.288Z
re: #83 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines
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Once I read this:
the scanning of the lyrics in the meter is unbearable
I could not stop myself from doing it. Right there.
Count me in as pro-lawsuit.
Giant corporations engage in countless deceptions in order to lower the quality and quantity of goods and services while always raising prices. You can’t count on laws because the current SCOTUS will find a “right to lie” in a rare book from 12th century feudal France and use that to justify anything businesses want. The only way to fight them is to sue.
re: #84 Charles Johnson
It’s happening in France too.
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And it’s all happening to pretty much the same (il)logic: Force millions of young folks to do a term of service and they’ll all come together, realize that this “liberty” and “individuality” business needs to be put aside in favor of “community” and “sacrifice,” and magically they’ll all become conservatives who get upset at the suggestion that “takers” are getting something for “free” at the expense of “givers.”
Trump 2024 Surrogate Sophia Hutchins:
“Just because you’re Black, you’re not a DEI hire or you don’t bring value, but a lot of these people, you can see, they’re not the sharpest knives in the drawer.” pic.twitter.com/Z7rfE6ng2x— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes) June 11, 2024
MAGA infected with Race Science.
re: #87 Targetpractice
And it’s all happening to pretty much the same (il)logic: Force millions of young folks to do a term of service and they’ll all come together, realize that this “liberty” and “individuality” business needs to be put aside in favor of “community” and “sacrifice,” and magically they’ll all become conservatives who get upset at the suggestion that “takers” are getting something for “free” at the expense of “givers.”
Sure didn’t work out like that the last time the US had compulsory service!
re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
So because other class actions weren’t brought against other potential false advertising, this false advertising claim should not be pursued and everyone else should move on, whilst you defend the company over this false advertising claim.
They don’t sell pink lemonade, mojito, orange sorbet (they do sell Dreamsickle ice cream, but Dreamsickle is a trademark).
They do sell Ghiradelli ice cream (but the ingredient list doesn’t include that trademark brand of chocolate).
Vanilia flavour is already a legal definition of vanillin.
There are no pistachios in the pistachio ice cream. That’s the claim.
Cold Stone Creamery Ice Cream Varieties with Ingredients (goes to their Website)
i think we’re getting far afield
cold stone does sell “pink lemonade, mojito, orange sorbet” and all the other flavors i mentioned.
i got the ingredients off the link to their website
once again, their “pistachio pudding ice cream” has pistachios, but it’s cut down with almonds probably because of cost. at less than 1%, do you think there are chewable chunks of pistachio in it?
also, is it false advertising if it’s not called “pistachio and almond pudding ice cream”?
cotton candy is spun sugar. just as ‘real’ as nuts. why is it unreasonable to expect cotton candy but not nuts?
this whole thing is putting a lot of weight on the name of the product while ignoring that there’s enough supporting information out there - that took me 5 minutes to find.
anyway this was fun but it’s not gonna change the world.
i gotta get back to work making sure some overlooked corporate controller doesnt skim off the mils using floating point numbers.
re: #82 mmmirele
Reminds me of the cases back in the 1960s where chicken pot pie didn’t contain chicken and cherry pie had no cherries. Pistachios are a nut, not a flavor. If they weren’t putting actual pistachios in the ice cream, they should call it pistachio-flavored. I think she has a case.
According to their ingredient list, their butter pecan ice cream doesn’t have pecans either. Strange decision for them to make given that standard ice creams out there marketed as pistachio or butter pecan contain those nuts. But their black cherry and mango do contain the fruit. This is a case where anyone making the mistake of buying a nut ice cream would never purchase it again from them — and may dissuade them from purchasing the product line altogether.
re: #88 DodgerFan1988
Looks like they’re running their female surrogates through a Lara Trump filter.
re: #15 Dangerman
When most people talk about how they want ‘religious freedom’ they’re really saying they want ‘religious power’. Specifically power for their religion.
re: #89 Charles Johnson
Sure didn’t work out like that the last time the US had compulsory service!
I wasn’t drafted but I may as well have been. I volunteered because my birthday came up #4 in the draft lottery and I thought I might get a better deal if I volunteered. One of the odd things about the birthday lottery was that almost all the people in a basic training platoon would have one of about 3 birthdays.
‘Not all black folks are DEI hires’
Not all racists are totally racist.
re: #46 Charles Johnson
I’m betting there will be lots of ‘bone spurs’ opportunities for the right people to get out of such service.
At worst they’ll never, ever be posted at the sharp end.
Canadian conservatives recently tried to push mandatory service as well.
United States
Canada
Britain
France
Sure is looking like a pattern.
re: #65 Targetpractice
A lot of Boomers about to be reminded about why it was so ridiculous in the 60s and 70s that your kid could be shipped off to die in a fetid, humid AF jungle as young as 18 but couldn’t vote until he was 21.
I see to remember a lot of people losing their shit when W. or someone in his admin floated the idea of a draft for the War on Terror.
re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea
I’m betting Mr. Meyer’s entire knowledge of forearm’s is which end the ‘bang’ comes out of.
Christ on a crutch.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
As is usual for conservatives, they have no original ideas.
Other countries (Israel for example) DO
have mandatory military service, but that doesn’t mean it will work everywhere.
My guess is the nutjobs think military training will “whip the woke right out of people” or some dumb shit like that.
re: #89 Charles Johnson
Sure didn’t work out like that the last time the US had compulsory service!
Quick back of the envelope math says you’d need to be 69 years old today to have been old enough to be eligible for the draft when it was abolished in ‘73. And to be 18 in ‘73, you had to have been born no later than 1955. So for a good 1/2 to 3/4 of the US population, compulsory service is something you heard about growing up. And you heard about it in the context of the Vietnam War, one of the most divisive conflicts of the last century. Any supposed “benefits” from it are pretty much lost in all the nasty shift that happened as a result of the government having the confidence of a ready pool of manpower they could just toss into the meat grinder at will.
re: #94 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines
I wasn’t drafted but I may as well have been. I volunteered because my birthday came up #4 in the draft lottery and I thought I might get a better deal if I volunteered. One of the odd things about the birthday lottery was that almost all the people in a basic training platoon would have one of about 3 birthdays.
One of those things about being an old geezer from a *certain* generation is that you don’t forget a number of now-irrelevant things, like your draft-lottery number. Mine was 52, which, I found out afterwards, would have put me right on the line of drafted/not-drafted had I not been fortunate enough to graduate college the year after the SS Act expired….
The other thing I’ve never forgotten is that the one time I had to physically appear at the SS office, it was in the Federal Building on Wilshire Boulevard in Westwood: and the view outside the draft office’s picture window was a panorama of the neatly-arranged gravestones in the Veterans’ Cemetery across the street. Never figured out if the irony was intentional….
re: #93 Romantic Heretic
When most people talk about how they want ‘religious freedom’ they’re really saying they want ‘religious power’. Specifically power for their religion.
+1
There might be some wild as fuck trading swings in Tesla in the near future, as the outcome of Musk’s insane compensation package re-vote is declared on Thursday.
COPENHAGEN, June 11 (Reuters) - Swedish fund manager Lansforsakringar Fondforvaltning said on Tuesday it will vote against ratifying Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab CEO Elon Musk’s $56 billion pay package, which is up for a shareholder vote on Thursday.
The fund said in an emailed statement that the remuneration package would fall outside what could be considered market-based and reasonable.
“In addition, the CEO is already highly incentivised by being the company’s single largest shareholder,” the fund said, among other reasons for its intention to vote against the pay package.
Either way the vote shakes out there’s going to be a very disgruntled faction left holding a huge percentage of the company who will be eyeballing the exits. The funniest outcome is probably if the sovereign funds dump all their shares the day after successfully tanking Musk’s package, beating him to the punch and fucking him over twice.
re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
There was once a case (though it was a criminal case) where a person who worked in the payment processing centre for active duty military personnel was sent to prison for a long time for embezzlement.
The government used to pay only whole-dollar amounts in pay cheques. Cents would be kept on account until they surpassed a full dollar, to make cheque accounting easier.
Someone wrote a software program to divert a few cents from each cheque to their own account in Switzerland.
Each active duty person only lost a few cents.
After that came to light, the law was changed to pay out exact amounts.
This was kind of what the programmers were doing in “Office Space.” Except they programmed it badly and it was taking out more than just pennies.
I can tell you, given my experience working for a bank and my firsthand, up close and personal experience with processing payments, you can’t just grab pennies like that. I was never so paranoid about balancing accounts than I was when I worked in commercial real estate. And over the years, we’ve had incidents involving tiny amounts of money, like an interest rate off by .01 percent or a charge implemented in error. But when spread over a lot of accounts and a period of time, and adding in any regulations that might have been violated, the amount of money involved could be significant.
re: #106 goddamnedfrank
HA. Suck it, truck boy.
re: #102 Targetpractice
Quick back of the envelope math says you’d need to be 69 years old today to have been old enough to be eligible for the draft when it was abolished in ‘73. And to be 18 in ‘73, you had to have been born no later than 1955. So for a good 1/2 to 3/4 of the US population, compulsory service is something you heard about growing up. And you heard about it in the context of the Vietnam War, one of the most divisive conflicts of the last century. Any supposed “benefits” from it are pretty much lost in all the nasty shift that happened as a result of the government having the confidence of a ready pool of manpower they could just toss into the meat grinder at will.
it’s the same but sort of reverse argument re abortion - in that ‘it’s always been this way’ for them so they cant see a world without it (until dobbs)
re: #100 Romantic Heretic
I’m betting Mr. Meyer’s entire knowledge of forearm’s is which end the ‘bang’ comes out of.
Christ on a crutch.
He carries at work. His job is to look scary.
re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg
As is usual for conservatives, they have no original ideas.
Other countries (Israel for example) DO
have mandatory military service, but that doesn’t mean it will work everywhere.My guess is the nutjobs think military training will “whip the woke right out of people” or some dumb shit like that.
That’s all it really is, decades of the constant repetition that military voters are conservative voters because Republican administrations mean pay raises and promotions all around.
re: #102 Targetpractice
a ready pool of manpower they could just toss into the meat grinder at will
One of the grim features of junior high and high school at the time was the feeling of being trapped on an unstoppable conveyor belt that was taking your older brothers and friends and grinding them to dust for reasons it was forbidden to question.
In Their Own Words
Russian propagandists’ hopes for America
by Timothy Snyder
snyder.substack.com
Dear Friends, from time to time I will use this space to discuss a new book. My essay today serves as a foreword to Julia Davis’s new book on Russian television propagandists, In Their Own Words, which I heartily recommend to you.
Russian propaganda is in the shadow of America. Whereas the America only covers Russia when there is something to cover, and usually not even then, Russian propaganda television starts every night from the premise that whatever has happened that day is America’s doing and America’s fault. This does not reflect reality — or a typical American’s experience of reality.
re: #113 retired cynic
One of the things that Russian propagandists expect not to be noticed, but which is brought home in the book, is that they believe that Trump is an idiot. Of course, it’s hard to see, from their perspective, how they can believe anything else (except, perhaps, that he is a traitor, as is also sometimes hinted). In their public worldview, destroying the United States is the main aim, and here is an American who follows their talking points.
The same goes for Tucker Carlson. He is celebrated on Russian television, of course, and his clips replayed. But Russian propagandists naturally think anyone beyond Russia who is on their side must not be very bright, and they cannot quite stop themselves from saying so. It is the one point on which they are completely sincere.
re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg
My guess is the nutjobs think military training will “whip the woke right out of people” or some dumb shit like that.
I’m guessing they never heard Bill Mauldin’s observation that, “The surest way to become a pacifist is to join the infantry.”
re: #88 DodgerFan1988
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MAGA infected with Race Science.
The 21st century variation of “One of the good ones.”
re: #58 lawhawk
Service guarantees citizenship*.
Would you like to know more.
* on your untimely death. It will not extend to your descendants.
I’m just reminded of what my slightly older friends and acquaintances did or planned on doing when they got called up. One guy I knew flatly told his draft board that he was gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. He was living with his girlfriend at the time. Did it affect him? No, at that point in time he was a tenured professor and this is a story he told at cocktail parties.
Another friend told me that his parents (!) were going to ship him off to relatives in Canada. He had come up with a different plan. He was going to shoot himself in the foot. Lucky for him, while his very low number was pulled that year, the government dedlcided not to draft anyone.
re: #102 Targetpractice
Quick back of the envelope math says you’d need to be 69 years old today to have been old enough to be eligible for the draft when it was abolished in ‘73. And to be 18 in ‘73, you had to have been born no later than 1955. So for a good 1/2 to 3/4 of the US population, compulsory service is something you heard about growing up. And you heard about it in the context of the Vietnam War, one of the most divisive conflicts of the last century. Any supposed “benefits” from it are pretty much lost in all the nasty shift that happened as a result of the government having the confidence of a ready pool of manpower they could just toss into the meat grinder at will.
I’m exactly that person. I turned 18 in 73. The draft had ended but there was still a requirement to register, which I didn’t do. Should this ever come to fruition, it will be the one thing that I, as a boomer, would find some common ground with Gen X,Y,Zers in our adamant opposition. Their music may suck but that isn’t grounds for letting them be drafted.
re: #94 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines
I wasn’t drafted but I may as well have been. I volunteered because my birthday came up #4 in the draft lottery and I thought I might get a better deal if I volunteered. One of the odd things about the birthday lottery was that almost all the people in a basic training platoon would have one of about 3 birthdays.
My dad joined up because he kept missing National Guard training. His younger not quite legal age younger brother then decided to join up as well and they forged Grandma’s signature on the enlistment papers. And then they got sent to Korea.
One thing my dad told me was being in the Army was a LOT easier than sharecropping. Even if they were freezing and getting shot at up at the DMZ in Korea. That was quite a revelation to teenage me.
re: #118 sizzzzlerz
I’m exactly that person. I turned 18 in 73. The draft had ended but there was still a requirement to register, which I didn’t do. Should this ever come to fruition, it will be the one thing that I, as a boomer, would find some common ground with Gen X,Y,Zers in our adamant opposition. Their music may suck but that isn’t grounds for letting them be drafted.
Is registration still required? If so, I’m still waiting for the strike in which nobody registers because women are unconstitutionally NOT required to register.
re: #74 TedStriker
You know they’re thinking “can’t protest me if they’re drafted”, but they apparently forget that part of the Vietnam War years…
Did my first anti-war demonstration (VN) after I got out. Did my last (Iraq) as a civilian employee on TDY to the Pentagon.
Your Lone Pine flag won’t get you into Heaven anymore
They’re just not making Justices the way they did before
re: #120 wrenchwench
Is registration still required? If so, I’m still waiting for the strike in which nobody registers because women are unconstitutionally NOT required to register.
Since the Reagan Administration Selective Service Registration for males 18 and older is required in order to receive federal financial aid to attend college. Reagan reinstituted draft registration when I was in high school.
re: #120 wrenchwench
Is registration still required? If so, I’m still waiting for the strike in which nobody registers because women are unconstitutionally NOT required to register.
Apparently, it is but I really doubt it is checked
re: #123 A Three Hour Tour
Since the Reagan Administration Selective Service Registration for males 18 and older is required in order to receive federal financial aid to attend college.
And failure still carries criminal penalties, the last time I looked.
I need help with an ID.
The bird with the fish is an osprey, but the other one? Juvenile bald eagle? My 1st thought, the coloring is a little off to me though. Juvenile golden eagle (I have never seen one)?
Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island, NY. June 9 2024.
#Birds #Photography #NaturePhotography 📷🪶— Christine Beeton (@christinebeeton.bsky.social) 2024-06-11T19:10:17.516Z
re: #126 wrenchwench
Definitely more of a golden’s wing shape (deeper, blockier), rather than a bald (longer). But I would have thought even a juvenile golden would be much larger in comparison to an osprey. I saw a golden and a bald together above me once, and was amazed at the size difference.
re: #123 A Three Hour Tour
Or to apply for a Federal Job. It was part of my packet when I got a job with the State Department, (that I turned down).
re: #84 Charles Johnson
It’s happening in France too.
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Given the non zero risk of Trump being elected and either succeeding in pulling us out of NATO or simply refusing to honor our commitments, I can understand why European nations are considering mandatory service again.
re: #127 retired cynic
Definitely more of a golden’s wing shape (deeper, blockier), rather than a bald (longer). But I would have thought even a juvenile golden would be much larger in comparison to an osprey. I saw a golden and a bald together above me once, and was amazed at the size difference.
Okay, from my exploration on whatever Google is these days, it looks like a Golden. Osprey, wingspan 5.5 feet
Bald Eagle, wingspan 5.9-7.5 feet
Golden Eagle, wingspan 5.9-7.7 feet.
Definitely not an immature Golden:
I had to register for selective service when I immigrated.
I also had to commit to taking up arms in defense of the country if necessary when I took my oath.
re: #118 sizzzzlerz
I’m exactly that person. I turned 18 in 73. The draft had ended but there was still a requirement to register, which I didn’t do. Should this ever come to fruition, it will be the one thing that I, as a boomer, would find some common ground with Gen X,Y,Zers in our adamant opposition. Their music may suck but that isn’t grounds for letting them be drafted.
disco, on the other hand….
re: #90 Dangerman
i think we’re getting far afield
cold stone does sell “pink lemonade, mojito, orange sorbet” and all the other flavors i mentioned.
i got the ingredients off the link to their website
once again, their “pistachio pudding ice cream” has pistachios, but it’s cut down with almonds probably because of cost. at less than 1%, do you think there are chewable chunks of pistachio in it?
also, is it false advertising if it’s not called “pistachio and almond pudding ice cream”?
cotton candy is spun sugar. just as ‘real’ as nuts. why is it unreasonable to expect cotton candy but not nuts?
this whole thing is putting a lot of weight on the name of the product while ignoring that there’s enough supporting information out there - that took me 5 minutes to find.
anyway this was fun but it’s not gonna change the world.
i gotta get back to work making sure some overlooked corporate controller doesnt skim off the mils using floating point numbers.
I don’t see those flavours on their Website.
Cotton candy is spun sugar. Flavoured cotton candy is artifically-flavoured. What happens if you stir spun sugar into ice cream?
It’s not supposed to change the world. It’s supposed to bring an alleged corporate fraud to account.
I really don’t get the caping for corporate false advertising. If they have a case and enough money to take on a corporation, they should be able to prevail.
This is sort of like the woman who won a suit against McDonalds for burns from far-too-overheated coffee, with people all over complaining “duh it’s coffee it’s supposed to be hot.”
No nuance between serving coffee at McDonalds own rules of no more than 140°F and what the shop actually did (serve it at 170°F+, which even water heater manufacturers and the government says is an unsafe temperature).
Corporations are not your friends, including ice cream companies.
re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Just like the idiot who sued Subway because his footlong was not exactly 12 inches long.
re: #87 Targetpractice
And it’s all happening to pretty much the same (il)logic: Force millions of young folks to do a term of service and they’ll all come together, realize that this “liberty” and “individuality” business needs to be put aside in favor of “community” and “sacrifice,” and magically they’ll all become conservatives who get upset at the suggestion that “takers” are getting something for “free” at the expense of “givers.”
Underlying this as well is people who do realize that the effort and logistics to a 3+ million service force will be expensive. And thus also a really neat set of government contracts to supply. Which in a GOP administration, or possibly better yet done as grants to the state to handle, can then be handed out to cronies in a no-bid or fixed result fashion where things can be overcharged and/or under-built and under-maintained to generate even greater profit margins.
re: #80 nines09
Facebook cares so much about the people it harvests information from part 435,90…
Venerable Sam Ash Music stores are closing. They are clearing inventory.
And on Facebook there are literally hundreds of scammer sites taking, or attempting to take money, posing as Sam Ash and Facebook is fine with it.
Saw one user reported one scammer to FB and was told they are all good with the ad.sigh…..
be careful. I just did a quick glance through their fender sale and those prices are still over what you can regularly find on Reverb from brand dealers. I mean, my american professional ii jazz bass was 1350, with shipping with the original warranty, OHSC etc., and with the company giving me zero percent interest over a year on monthly payments. So 1800 “on sale” just doesn’t really excite me. When they get to the point where they’ve got three guitars left and they’re selling them out of Larry’s car trunk, I’ll be ready to haggle.
re: #130 retired cynic
Okay, from my exploration on whatever Google is these days, it looks like a Golden. Osprey, wingspan 5.5 feet
Bald Eagle, wingspan 5.9-7.5 feet
Golden Eagle, wingspan 5.9-7.7 feet.Definitely not an immature Golden:
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It’s real hard to tell from this vantage point since an immature Bald Eagle looks exactly like a mature Golden. An immature Golden has white patches on the underside of the wing. Considering he’s hanging with an Osprey I would vote for immature Bald Eagle since they are more fish eaters and live at water’s edge. Goldens are more land-based, eating small mammals and such.
re: #103 Jay C
One of those things about being
an old geezerfrom a *certain* generation is that you don’t forget a number of now-irrelevant things, like your draft-lottery number. Mine was 52, which, I found out afterwards, would have put me right on the line of drafted/not-drafted had I not been fortunate enough to graduate college the year after the SS Act expired….The other thing I’ve never forgotten is that the one time I had to physically appear at the SS office, it was in the Federal Building on Wilshire Boulevard in Westwood: and the view outside the draft office’s picture window was a panorama of the neatly-arranged gravestones in the Veterans’ Cemetery across the street. Never figured out if the irony was intentional….
yes, I felt myself whistling past my grave when I checked a website and discovered i would indeed have been drafted. I’m smart enough to where I likely would have been made a second lieutenant and that would likely have gotten me killed. Either that, or my platoon would have found itself creating a breach in North Vietnam as we worked to rob all the gold in Hanoi.
re: #107 mmmirele
This was kind of what the programmers were doing in “Office Space.” Except they programmed it badly and it was taking out more than just pennies.
I can tell you, given my experience working for a bank and my firsthand, up close and person experience with processing payments, you can’t just grab pennies like that. I was never so paranoid about balancing accounts than I was when I worked in commercial real estate. And over the years, we’ve had incidents involving tiny amounts of money, like an interest rate off by .01 percent or a charge implemented in error. But when spread over a lot of accounts and a period of time, and adding in any regulations that might have been violated, the amount of money involved could be significant.
It was in Superman III before that, which Office Space meta-references.