Another quality op-ed brought to you by the New York Times, as creepy crazy Libyan dictator Muammar Gadafi plays peacemaker, kind of: The One-State Solution.
And if you’ve ever wondered whether there are really people who will read stuff like this and enthusastically cheer on the aging tyrant, check out the comments.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:35:18pm |
I will celebrate the death of this newspaper like there is no tomorrow. It is coming sooner than some think.
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akak Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:35:32pm |
Wacky Qadaffi!
Hamas says President Barack Obama's position toward the Palestinians does not represent change and will lead to the same mistakes as his predecessor.
/they are at least unified like Obama says he wants
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mean Gene Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:35:42pm |
Demographic suicide is still suicide.
Israel already has 23% non-Jewish Arabs.
And, although many of the Jewish families I know here in CA have HUGE families, the population growth in Israel is just barely over zero (2.1 babies per woman is zero population growth, Israel's women have 2.2 babies each counting the non-Jewish women in).
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allan5oh Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:36:39pm |
It was ok to about the half way point. After that it just went looney.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:36:49pm |
I think that Mexican mogul is rethinking his bailout right about now.
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winston06 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:36:54pm |
I am speechless. This moron should have been killed when Reagan ordered air strikes on his compounds in 1980s
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:37:41pm |
"...reminds us why a final resolution to the so-called Middle East crisis is so important..."
The NYT: always pushing the final solution to the Jewish Question.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:37:54pm |
The next Op-Ed published by the New York Times: OJ Simpson on curbing domestic violence.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:38:02pm |
re: #2 DEZes
Did Muammar Gadafi get his Unicorn before I did?
Of course. Everybody is equal under 0bama, but Gadafi is more equal than you, so he got his first.
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allan5oh Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:38:03pm |
BTW, the Palestinians already have their own country, it's called "Jordan" and is actually 75% of what used to be the mandate of Palestine.
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Basho Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:38:42pm |
re: #3 freedombilly
I will celebrate the death of this newspaper like there is no tomorrow. It is coming sooner than some think.
If it wasn't for that Mexican billionaire, the NYT would have been bought by Murdoch sometime this year.
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mean Gene Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:38:45pm |
re: #10 freedombilly
After that maybe the unibomber on how to properly wrap a package for posting?
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:38:48pm |
Isn't this the same newspaper that refused to run an Op-Ed from John McCain?
F**king Bastards.....
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:38:57pm |
re: #2 DEZes
Did Muammar Gadafi get his Unicorn before I did?
Please let me know when you get your unicorn. I want to know when I need to start worrying about mine not showing up.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:17pm |
Another op-ed will be by Blago on ethics in government.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:36pm |
This bastard wet his pants when Bush went after Hussein and turned over his nukes.
Now, he is more confident.
Wonder why? /
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jaunte Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:39pm |
Those commenters eagerly praising a one-state solution would not be so enthusiastic about having a murderous psychotic sworn to their personal obliteration forced on them as a room-mate.
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:45pm |
Some send Quackdaffy Nekema's Troll (Dictator) Hammer.
And post it in the comments section at the NYT.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:46pm |
There already is one state for Palestinians - one state of mind: batshit crazy.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:58pm |
I also believe in a one state solution.
Its called Israel.
Now they just have to get the Jordanian and Eygptian squatters off their land.
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:39:59pm |
re: #11 gmsc
Of course. Everybody is equal under 0bama, but Gadafi is more equal than you, so he got his first.
Thats what I figured, I will just have to cook something else tonight.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:40:03pm |
re: #15 LGoPs
Isn't this the same newspaper that refused to run an Op-Ed from John McCain?
F**king Bastards.....
They wanted him to change it first.
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Age Of Freedom Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:40:40pm |
Each and every one of the comments is worse than the article published by Gadafi. The comments indicate that these people are literally one step before actually sucking Gadafi's nutsack.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:40:47pm |
reminds us why a final resolution to the so-called Middle East crisis is so important
Is that like a final solution?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:41:07pm |
Didn't Reverend Wright hang out with this guy?
Who rubbed off on whom, I wonder.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:41:28pm |
re: #15 LGoPs
Isn't this the same newspaper that refused to run an Op-Ed from John McCain?
F**king Bastards.....
I wish I had thought of that. John McCain is worse to this rag of a newspaper.
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:41:29pm |
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dentate Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:41:35pm |
re: #28 karmic_inquisitor
Didn't Reverend Wright hang out with this guy?
Who rubbed off on whom, I wonder.
No, that was Billy Carter
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:41:45pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:41:54pm |
re: #25 DistantThunder
They wanted him to change it first.
You're right. Bet they were more accommodating with Ghaddafi.....like I said - bastards......
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solergic Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:42:11pm |
Ugh. Charles in the future refrain from posting such vile links - it's dinner time for some of us.
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:42:11pm |
re: #16 freedombilly
Please let me know when you get your unicorn. I want to know when I need to start worrying about mine not showing up.
With my luck I will just recieve an IOU.
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logboy Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:42:16pm |
As my old man always likes to say, hope in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:42:34pm |
We live in a world where a terrorist dictator is writing pieces for the NYT, and our fellow citizens are applauding him.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:42:38pm |
I told Mr DT that we should consider moving to New Zealand - and then I saw this
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:42:43pm |
re: #3 freedombilly
I will celebrate the death of this newspaper like there is no tomorrow. It is coming sooner than some think.
At $5.58 a share (just 0.63 over its 52 week low) it shouldn't be long -Mexican millionaire or no Mexican millionaire. Dios mio!
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solergic Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:43:07pm |
re: #37 logboy
Hey, I heard that growing up all the time too.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:43:23pm |
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:43:25pm |
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:43:35pm |
re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I also believe in a one state solution.
Its called Israel.
Now they just have to get the Jordanian and Eygptian squatters off their land.
I was just thinking about how to phrase that very sentiment.
Bravo!
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:43:58pm |
Gadafi actually has a name for this one-state solution of his -- "Isratine."
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:00pm |
Austrian Party That Wants To Bring Back Nazi Imagery Wins Big
In Austria’s recent national elections, voters gave significant support to a party that seeks to bring back Nazi symbols and salutes. The anti-immigrant Freedom Party (FPO), headed by Heinz-Christian Strache, former dental assistant and representative of Europe’s Cities Against Islamisation group, won 18 percent of the vote.
Another anti-immigrant party, the Alliance for Austria’s Future, led by Jörg Haider, a former Freedom Party leader who broke away and formed a new party in 2005, got 11 percent of the vote.
Ok, I remember these guys now.
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Age Of Freedom Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:19pm |
re: #12 allan5oh
BTW, the Palestinians already have their own country, it's called "Jordan" and is actually 75% of what used to be the mandate of Palestine.
Nobody cares about that fact though.
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dentate Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:30pm |
Hey, maybe Gadafi can make peace between Chirac and his poodle!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:35pm |
re: #49 Killgore Trout
oops, wrong thread, Sorry.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:38pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:44pm |
I can think of only one useful purpose that the New York Times serves. On the rare occasion that I don't know what to think on an issue, I find out what they think and take the exact opposite position.
In that regard the ACLU works for me too...........
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:44:47pm |
See:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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solergic Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:45:08pm |
re: #12 allan5oh
Please don't insult us with facts and truth.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:45:35pm |
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:45:40pm |
re: #48 Charles
Gadafi actually has a name for this one-state solution of his -- "Isratine."
Who came up with that for him, Harry Reid?
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:45:46pm |
How about the one-state solution, Palibya? Moammar has lots of space to resettle the fellow Muslims that the Jordanians and the Egyptians don't want.
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unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:45:48pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:46:39pm |
re: #29 buzzsawmonkey
They also already have one state, which occupies most of what was called "Palestine" prior to 1948.
It is called "Jordan."
If Israel gave in today and let them create "Palestine" out of Gaza and the West Bank, next week the world would be demanding that Israel proper be split into two for the Israeli Arabs.
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dentate Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:46:45pm |
re: #48 Charles
Gadafi actually has a name for this one-state solution of his -- "Isratine."
It'll never work. The Paleraelis will never agree!
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Miss Trixie Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:46:49pm |
Whatever happened to Gadaffi's Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl/em> squad?
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:46:52pm |
NYT's has never met a murderous tyrant that they didn't love.
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FloridaAnole Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:47:10pm |
Holy Crap, who are the loons writing the comments to the article? Are you sure this isn't The Onion?
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:47:40pm |
re: #53 DEZes
Great thats 2 things I can write off. :(
No more write offs Dez. If the head of the Treasury doesn't have to pay taxes you don't either. Tell the IRS I wrote you a note.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:47:57pm |
Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
Two years after launching the most technologically savvy presidential campaign in history, Obama officials ran smack into the constraints of the federal bureaucracy yesterday, encountering a jumble of disconnected phone lines, old computer software, and security regulations forbidding outside e-mail accounts.
What does that mean in 21st-century terms? No Facebook to communicate with supporters. No outside e-mail log-ins. No instant messaging. Hard adjustments for a staff that helped sweep Obama to power through, among other things, relentless online social networking.
The O house is going to leak more that a LA levee.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:48:24pm |
re: #48 Charles
Gadafi actually has a name for this one-state solution of his -- "Isratine."
Obama will take over the idea and call it "Ovaltine".
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P. Aaron Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:48:28pm |
We should send Chirac's poddle after al Qaeda.
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:48:34pm |
The one state solution means that Israel has to let its enimies move in,
Less travel time for the terrorists.
Gadafi's a dork holster.
/
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:49:06pm |
re: #67 FloridaAnole
Holy Crap, who are the loons writing the comments to the article? Are you sure this isn't The Onion?
The cultish brainwashed liberals like my SIL who told Mr DT that Bill Ayers was just a "prankster."
Mr DT hit the roof, and hardly spoke to her for the rest of the visit because he thinks she's nuts.
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:49:20pm |
What the New York Times left out of this piece which came from a talk delivered to Georgetown University, specifically, the Saudi funded
Contemporary Arab Studies Center:
""If you want to preserve this group, the Jews as an ethnic group, Palestine is not really the right place. The Middle East is a sea of Arabs," he said. "Take them to Alaska or Honolulu or the Hawaiian islands or the Pacific islands and they can live peacefully in an isolated setting."'
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:49:41pm |
From the words of a crazy an absolute truth that many of the supposed sane refuse to acknowledge.
A two-state solution will create an unacceptable security threat to Israel. An armed Arab state, presumably in the West Bank, would give Israel less than 10 miles of strategic depth at its narrowest point.
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Dekar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:49:52pm |
Why is the NYT giving him a platform? Didn't Clinton try to assassinate him? I'm confused
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:49:59pm |
re: #39 Silhouette
We live in a world where a terrorist dictator is writing pieces for the NYT, and our fellow citizens are applauding him.
This really is Alice in Wonderland........we're all going down the rabbit hole.
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:50:05pm |
re: #33 gmsc
Several years ago I helped out at a local conservative talk radio's 4th of July event. When it was done the event center manager looked around and said it normally took a crew of 10 people 4 hours to clean up. There was nothing for the clean crew to do except the routine cleaning the rest rooms. There was nothing on the grounds or floors to pick up. Even things that the event particpants moved around had been put back.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:50:13pm |
re: #62 unrealizedviewpoint
I really want to know the age of most of these posters at the Times article. It's frightening to me to think that any of these people are over 14 years of age.
I mean, seriously, even if you this Israel is the most evil country to ever exist, these commenters "answers" to the problems make no sense at all.
Do they really see the world in this narrow, rose-colored way?
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:51:20pm |
re: #79 LGoPs
This really is Alice in Wonderland........we're all going down the rabbit hole.
At least the Jew eating rabbit is dead!
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:51:35pm |
re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
The O house is going to leak more that a LA levee.
Read that earlier - implication was that Bush et al were dullards when it is actually about data security. I deal with banks that have the same restrictions (and never upgaded to Vista - another gripe in the article). They must therefore be in the dark ages.
Smug, ignorant pricks are now running your government.
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pingjockey Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:51:46pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
Yes they do. It is damn scary. They are not living in the real world.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:51:52pm |
re: #80 jcm
Several years ago I helped out at a local conservative talk radio's 4th of July event. When it was done the event center manager looked around and said it normally took a crew of 10 people 4 hours to clean up. There was nothing for the clean crew to do except the routine cleaning the rest rooms. There was nothing on the grounds or floors to pick up. Even things that the event particpants moved around had been put back.
I'm not surprised because conservative values encourage self-scrupulousness.
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:51:56pm |
re: #83 buzzsawmonkey
And that rabbit is the late, unlamented Assud.
Did I take the red pill or the blue pill?
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logboy Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:51:56pm |
re: #48 Charles
Gadafi actually has a name for this one-state solution of his -- "Isratine."
Maybe I'm out of line here, but when the time comes I'm all for renaming Palestine "The giant hole in the ground that was once Palestine", or "The New Israeli Moat".
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:52:02pm |
re: #75 DistantThunder
The cultish brainwashed liberals like my SIL who told Mr DT that Bill Ayers was just a "prankster."
Mr DT hit the roof, and hardly spoke to her for the rest of the visit because he thinks she's nuts.
They only time I nearly lost it, a co-worker was praising Kerry and I complained, "The man called our soldiers rapists and baby killers!" The co-worker responded, "THEY ARE!" I have never before and never since almost punched someone.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:52:27pm |
re: #85 karmic_inquisitor
Read that earlier - implication was that Bush et al were dullards when it is actually about data security. I deal with banks that have the same restrictions (and never upgaded to Vista - another gripe in the article). They must therefore be in the dark ages.
Smug, ignorant pricks are now running your government.
Self-promoting blowhards.
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dentate Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:52:35pm |
re: #83 buzzsawmonkey
And that rabbit is the late, unlamented Assud.
Gadafi obviously being the Mad Hatter.
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pingjockey Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:53:06pm |
re: #90 Silhouette
Holy Shit! I would have. Punched their lights out that is.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:53:08pm |
re: #77 Opinionated
From the words of a crazy an absolute truth that many of the supposed sane refuse to acknowledge.
A two-state solution will create an unacceptable security threat to Israel. An armed Arab state, presumably in the West Bank, would give Israel less than 10 miles of strategic depth at its narrowest point.
And another:
It is a fact that Palestinians inhabited the land and owned farms and homes there until recently, fleeing in fear of violence at the hands of Jews after 1948 — violence that did not occur, but rumors of which led to a mass exodus. It is important to note that the Jews did not forcibly expel Palestinians. They were never “un-welcomed.”
I can't believe this got by the censors editors.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:53:10pm |
re: #90 Silhouette
They only time I nearly lost it, a co-worker was praising Kerry and I complained, "The man called our soldiers rapists and baby killers!" The co-worker responded, "THEY ARE!" I have never before and never since almost punched someone.
She was confusing our soldier with UN workers.
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FloridaAnole Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:53:28pm |
re: #75 DistantThunder
The cultish brainwashed liberals like my SIL who told Mr DT that Bill Ayers was just a "prankster."
Mr DT hit the roof, and hardly spoke to her for the rest of the visit because he thinks she's nuts.
Wow! Unbelievable! So your SIL thinks suggestions like the ones from this troublemaking nut Qadafi are worth pursuing?
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:54:04pm |
re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages
The O house is going to leak more that a LA levee.
I had a rant on BHO crackberry this morning.
Insight into BHO view of the job. It's not about duty and best interest of the county, it's about what good for and what BHO wants.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:54:32pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
I really want to know the age of most of these posters at the Times article. It's frightening to me to think that any of these people are over 14 years of age.
I mean, seriously, even if you this Israel is the most evil country to ever exist, these commenters "answers" to the problems make no sense at all.
Do they really see the world in this narrow, rose-colored way?
Unfortunately they do. And somebody mobilized them to vote this last cycle.....to our everlasting peril.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:54:37pm |
Qaddhafi/Qaddafi/Gaddafi/Kaddafi/Khadafy/Qadhafi/Qadaffi/Gadaffi/Qathafi/Gadaafi/Qadhdhafi/Khaddafi/Khadafi
How about a one-name solution?
Better yet, how about a one-drink solution: Mr. Qaddhafi/Qaddafi/Gaddafi/Kaddafi/Khadafy/Qadhafi/Qadaffi/Gadaffi/Qathafi/Gadaafi/Qadhdhafi/Khaddafi/Khadafi, in honor of your suggestion, we'll serve your favorite drink to you, with only 23% poison in it. After that, we'll talk about executing your solution.
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:54:41pm |
re: #93 pingjockey
Holy Shit! I would have. Punched their lights out that is.
I would have held the twirp for both of you.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:54:49pm |
re: #67 FloridaAnole
Holy Crap, who are the loons writing the comments to the article? Are you sure this isn't The Onion?
upper West Side uberlibs...totally out of touch with reality...they sit around the high rise dreaming up solutions to problems they do no even understand....it's chic...they need a mass dose of LGF
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:54:53pm |
re: #85 karmic_inquisitor
Read that earlier - implication was that Bush et al were dullards when it is actually about data security. I deal with banks that have the same restrictions (and never upgaded to Vista - another gripe in the article). They must therefore be in the dark ages.
Smug, ignorant pricks are now running your government.
Best security practices mean you DON'T upgrade to the newest systems right away, since it means they're an unknown risk. You go with reliable, tested system you know will work and implement gradual changes so you can monitor and detect any possible security threats before they become a major concern.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:55:06pm |
re: #80 jcm
Several years ago I helped out at a local conservative talk radio's 4th of July event. When it was done the event center manager looked around and said it normally took a crew of 10 people 4 hours to clean up. There was nothing for the clean crew to do except the routine cleaning the rest rooms. There was nothing on the grounds or floors to pick up. Even things that the event particpants moved around had been put back.
People ridicule rednecks, but the cleanest bathroom I've ever seen was at Bass Pro Shops. All the little old ladies using it wiped up the water droplets on the counter, faucet, etc. and even straightened the stack of paper towels, without thinking. All of them.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:55:19pm |
re: #40 DistantThunder
I told Mr DT that we should consider moving to New Zealand - and then I saw this
If it gets too bad here in the US (and no one has the balls to fight back) I'm going to SE Asia. Capitalism is alive and well there.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:55:21pm |
There has got to be an island somewhere where we can put this man, key members of Hamas, the Gitmo prisoners, Representative Murtha, and some of those comment makers.
We'll call it the isle of not denial.
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:55:23pm |
re: #97 FloridaAnole
Wow! Unbelievable! So your SIL thinks suggestions like the ones from this troublemaking nut Qadafi are worth pursuing?
When MR DT challenged her on some political facts, and said how do you know that she responded predictably.
"It's true BECAUSE I read it in the New York times."
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:55:46pm |
re: #87 DistantThunder
I'm not surprised because conservative values encourage self-scrupulousness.
Last year at the summer solstice I posted pictures of Stonehenge. It was a garbage strewn mess.
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dentate Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:55:59pm |
re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Best security practices mean you DON'T upgrade to the newest systems right away, since it means they're an unknown risk. You go with reliable, tested system you know will work and implement gradual changes so you can monitor and detect any possible security threats before they become a major concern.
Time to switch to a Mac?
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:56:22pm |
Isratine?
Palesrael?
Abrahamastan?
Come now. Unfortunately, Muammar babe, you ignore the fine influence of Islam and the attempts by the nascent Israel's neighbors to wipe out the Jews. Nice of you to note the Jews did not massacre, nor even chase for the most part, any Arabs from the country, even under those circumstances. But, the events occurred, and that set the title and the justice of the situation for the next few decades, perhaps centuries.
You want a solution, it's two virtual states, sharing the same single territory. Only solution that will ever be tried, or work. Doesn't even have to be de jure, the two-state de jure solution would be a one-state de facto, if it was ever going to work. You talk to your Palestinian buddies about that, convince Hamas to make peace, and we'll see about getting you that Nobel.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:56:49pm |
re: #73 P. Aaron
We should send Chirac's poddle after al Qaeda.
Amnesty International would have a cat. :)
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suitepotato Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:56:52pm |
I get the feeling that MG is genuinely and seriously interested in peace and believed truthfully in what he is saying. Problem is he's naive, he's wrong, he's living in denial of reality, in favor of his emotional desires. Really, I remember the 80s but he's changed a bit over the years. Nevertheless, he's wrong.
Massive number of the so-called Palestinians at the time of Israel's foundation were not actual long term multi-generational inhabitants but workers or the families of workers from all over Arab lands who came to work in the British Mandate AFTER the Ottoman Empire lost it. Before that, the records of the place being very sparsely populated and almost totally undeveloped are numerous. Had there been anything like a cohesive "Palestinian" people they would have had to be there several generations already and the vast majority weren't.
A single state solution would be fine with me IF Islam were not currently dominated by Islamic Supremacism but instead pacifism AND if peace could be kept by an honest fair international force AND if the surrounding Muslim populations would agree to Israel's right to exist AND they didn't just send massive numbers of their people there just to overwhelm the Jews demographically AND the result was a free democratic republic with economic stability and trade with the world. That's a lot of things and it won't ever happen.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:56:57pm |
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:57:15pm |
re: #90 Silhouette
They only time I nearly lost it, a co-worker was praising Kerry and I complained, "The man called our soldiers rapists and baby killers!" The co-worker responded, "THEY ARE!" I have never before and never since almost punched someone.
Get yourself a little platic doll and some pins and stick the pins in whereever you desire because you have four years of these idiots. Trust me! This way you will not go to jail and it actually releases tension
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BakaRanger Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:57:31pm |
re: #79 LGoPs
This really is Alice in Wonderland........we're all going down the rabbit hole.
And that rabbit is the late, unlamented Assud.
Could this be the same rabbit that Jimmy Carter had a run-in with a few years back?
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pingjockey Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:57:35pm |
re: #109 DistantThunder
How in hell do you restrain yourselves from taking a clue bat to this poor womans' head?
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:57:46pm |
re: #110 jcm
Last year at the summer solstice I posted pictures of Stonehenge. It was a garbage strewn mess.
Coincides with liberalism as a mental illness and reflects a serious lack of maturity. It also reflects self-deception: Some one else is responsible for cleaning up after them.
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docjohn52 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:58:01pm |
It's time for another midnight palace bombing.
(And this time France, if our boys hadn't been so tired from flying around your country, maybe the F-111's from England won't accidently drop one on your embassy again)
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:58:09pm |
re: #106 Silhouette
People ridicule rednecks, but the cleanest bathroom I've ever seen was at Bass Pro Shops. All the little old ladies using it wiped up the water droplets on the counter, faucet, etc. and even straightened the stack of paper towels, without thinking. All of them.
Seattle just had a public toilet fiasco. If it didn't cost in the neighbor of $10 million it would be funny.
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Lively Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:58:10pm |
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:58:27pm |
re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Best security practices mean you DON'T upgrade to the newest systems
Not anymore in DC it seems - these are the brilliant lightworker's geek army. They will do whatever they want and call it SmartSecurity 2.0®
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:59:07pm |
re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
That is too much like right. Can't happen under this administration. Hope and Change, brother!
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Miss Trixie Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:59:16pm |
re: #99 jcm
I had a rant on BHO crackberry this morning.
Insight into BHO view of the job. It's not about duty and best interest of the county, it's about what good for and what BHO wants.
*applause*
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:59:49pm |
re: #124 Lively
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
Because we are now in an era of Responsibility®
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:59:53pm |
re: #125 karmic_inquisitor
Not anymore in DC it seems - these are the brilliant lightworker's geek army. They will do whatever they want and call it SmartSecurity 2.0®
I'm sure we'll be able to find all the details online relatively soon.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 3:59:58pm |
The end of his op-ed should read: Muammar Qaddafi is the leader of Libya and a fucking terrorist.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:03pm |
re: #123 jcm
Seattle just had a public toilet fiasco. If it didn't cost in the neighbor of $10 million it would be funny.
Where?
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:08pm |
re: #119 BakaRanger
re: #79 LGoPs
This really is Alice in Wonderland........we're all going down the rabbit hole.
And that rabbit is the late, unlamented Assud.
Could this be the same rabbit that Jimmy Carter had a run-in with a few years back?
Jimmy was and is a hare-brain
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FloridaAnole Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:16pm |
re: #124 Lively
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
Cause we're not rich liberals.
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phillies2008 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:16pm |
Since Gadafi is qualified to do an op ed about peace in the Middle East, I think Plaxico Burress should demand to do an op ed piece on the importance of gun safety.
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:32pm |
re: #116 suitepotato
Welcome suitepotato to LGF..Well thought out posts..I'll get you the Lizards drink list for you tonight..
/Remember Walter loves mint tea..
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:37pm |
JAMES TARANTO makes the following points re: the NYT opinion piece.
Gadhafi's Times article includes a glaring falsehood that bears on the impracticality of his proposal, and suggests that he is not offering it in good faith. By way of conceding a point, he writes:
The basis for the modern State of Israel is the persecution of the Jewish people, which is undeniable. The Jews have been held captive, massacred, disadvantaged in every possible fashion by the Egyptians, the Romans, the English, the Russians, the Babylonians, the Canaanites and, most recently, the Germans under Hitler. The Jewish people want and deserve their homeland.
In fact, the Germans under Hitler are not the most recent persecutors of Jews. Many Israeli Jews are refugees from persecution in Arab countries since World War II (and Iran since 1979). Aside from Morocco, no Arab land has more than a handful of Jews left--and that includes Libya. Vivienne Roumani-Denn, director of the 2007 documentary "The Last Jews of Libya," recounts the fate of Libya's Jews on this Web page:
By 1941, the Jews accounted for a quarter of the population of Tripoli and maintained 44 synagogues. In 1942 the Germans occupied the Jewish quarter of Benghazi, plundered shops, and deported more than 2,000 Jews across the desert, where more than one-fifth of them perished. Many Jews from Tripoli were also sent to forced labor camps. Conditions did not greatly improve following the liberation. During the British occupation, there was a series of pogroms, the worst of which, in 1945, resulted in the deaths of more than 100 Jews in Tripoli and other towns and the destruction of five synagogues.
A growing sense of insecurity, coupled with the establishment of the State of Israel, led many Jews to leave the country. Although emigration was illegal, more than 3,000 Jews succeeded in leaving, and many went to Israel. When the British legalized emigration in 1949, more than 30,000 Jews fled Libya.
At the time of Colonel Qaddafi's coup in 1969, some 500 Jews remained in Libya. Qaddafi subsequently confiscated all Jewish property and cancelled all debts owed to Jews. By 1974 there were no more than 20 Jews, and it is believed that the Jewish presence has passed out of existence.
In fairness to Gadhafi, he did not begin the persecution of Libyan Jews. But isn't there some rule of journalistic ethics that should have compelled the Times to disclose to its readers that its author is the man who, in his own country, finished what Hitler started?
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dentate Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:40pm |
re: #124 Lively
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:43pm |
re: #124 Lively
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
Your not a..... you know a..... whats that nasty word I am thinking of.
Oh a criminal.
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pingjockey Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:00:57pm |
re: #124 Lively
Because, us, the common folk must support these parasites in the manner they're accustomed to. None of these asshats has the brains to pour sand out of a boot. They do have the smarts to rip us off and get away with it. Who says we don't have royalty? Get in the Senate and be there for life, come out a multimillionaire.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:01:22pm |
re: #99 jcm
I had a rant on BHO crackberry this morning.
Insight into BHO view of the job. It's not about duty and best interest of the county, it's about what good for and what BHO wants.
As most folks know here, I worked for the DOE for 13 years. Now, what does Obama and his staff think these security procedures are all about? Do all the security directives exist simply to make it harder to do day to day business?
Of course not. Do they realize how easy it is to grab data from an unsecured network? Almost ANY lizard, with in two hours, could google enough info to have a good insight on hacking into a network.
So, what do these jokers think they need to do, open the networks up to all kinds of websites and all kinds of possible intrusions?
That's a real "science" based administration.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:01:32pm |
re: #138 DEZes
Your not a..... you know a..... whats that nasty word I am thinking of.
Oh a criminal.
I was thinking Liberal.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:01:33pm |
re: #123 jcm
Seattle just had a public toilet fiasco. If it didn't cost in the neighbor of $10 million it would be funny.
changing all the signs on the entry doors to UNI is expensive
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:01:39pm |
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jhrhv Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:01:44pm |
That's the first time I've ever read the NYT. What an awful experience please don't do that to me again. Those people are nucking futs!
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:01:47pm |
re: #124 Lively
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
If you have to ask, you'll never understand. /
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:02:02pm |
Instead of a one-state solution, why don't the Arabs try the Liquid State Solution...they all take a long walk off a short pier; or, if that's not to their liking they can try the Solid State Solution...they all stay inside for the rest of their lives and play video games.
And for Moo More Cud Daffy, I suggest that he be sent a token of our affection - something similar to his last house-warming gift.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:02:41pm |
re: #129 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm sure we'll be able to find all the details online relatively soon.
Bet you that the Chinese government is training legions of Apple hackers. Apple users have long been happy to not have been hacker bait. If the White House goes Mac (as is implied) then Mac users will find all sorts worms, viruses and trojan horses to deal with.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:02:44pm |
Wasn't the crack Obamaton media team the same group that left root access to their website open for who knows how long?
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:02:48pm |
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DistantThunder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:02:48pm |
re: #120 pingjockey
How in hell do you restrain yourselves from taking a clue bat to this poor womans' head?
We can't discuss politics. She had us all watching MaMa Mia - I like the music - and I mentioned that Donald Rumsfeld saw it 3 times. When one of our sons asked who Rusmsfeld was, she replied to him: The man who started the war.
I said absolutely nothing, and explained later to my son that Saddam had invaded Kwuait, then surrendered when we kicked him out, but there were conditions to the ceasefire which he violated for years and only Pres. Bush was brave enough to hold him accountable.
I told MR DT that we have to write a codecill to our will that she must have only limited and supervised access to our children if god forbid something happens to us.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:02:57pm |
re: #135 HoosierHoops
Did you get my answer to you about interesting places to see in a weekend in Paris? I repeat it here.
The Holocaust Memorial - hard to find. It is behind Notre Dame, in the park, at the very tip of the Isle de Cite. Small but impressive. It is BELOW ground, so you have to look closely to find it, not well marked, but worth the time to find it.
Carnavalet Museum - the "garage" of France, full of all sorts of objects, but very interesting.
Le Marais - the older Jewish area of Paris, now very much a Greenwich Village sort of area - walk around it, many small cafe's and stores, very nice.
And I know a few girls...
Also, I can put you in contact with the BEST walking tour guide in town. He's in his 70's, American citizen, has lived in Paris for over 30 years, use to work for UNESCO. Click on my name, go to my website and email me and I will pass on a email address.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:03:01pm |
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AuntAcid Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:03:09pm |
What do you call a farmer with an RPG?
An Arab
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:03:29pm |
re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Best security practices mean you DON'T upgrade to the newest systems right away, since it means they're an unknown risk. You go with reliable, tested system you know will work and implement gradual changes so you can monitor and detect any possible security threats before they become a major concern.
I'm a geek I like play with new releases, new stuff, alpha and beta releases etc....
I have multiple hard drives and boot partitions. I have my main stable setup that I use when I need to get stuff and down and working. Other setups is where new stuff goes and I play with and test new stuff. That way if something gets haywire, I don't lose anything.
It's good policy to want on new release till it settles out a bit.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:04:16pm |
re: #124 Lively
So Caroline Kennedy doesn't pay her taxes. The new Treasury Secretary doesn't pay his taxes. Tell me why do we have to pay our taxes?
When I was fresh out of college I was self employed and did quite well right out of the gate. The concept of estimated quarterly payments eluded me to a large degree. I fell in a 5 figure hole. I then had the bad judgement to pay it all back. Otherwise Congress would have been approving me for Treasury Secretary and we could have a lizard on the inside.
I am sorry for my bad judgment. I could have made a difference.
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pingjockey Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:04:42pm |
re: #151 DistantThunder
I am so sorry you are subjected to that sort of idiocy. That borders on torture having to listen to madness like that.
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:05:02pm |
Victims of Pan Am Flight 103 site.
Who gives a DAMN what you say you fuck.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:05:19pm |
re: #155 jcm
I'm a geek I like play with new releases, new stuff, alpha and beta releases etc....
I have multiple hard drives and boot partitions. I have my main stable setup that I use when I need to get stuff and down and working. Other setups is where new stuff goes and I play with and test new stuff. That way if something gets haywire, I don't lose anything.
It's good policy to want on new release till it settles out a bit.
on the other hand I've mastered the complexities of the mouse....
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:05:39pm |
re: #153 Dustyvet
Minnesota: Land of the Liberal Loon , and 10,000 Treatment Centers!
That idiot will wonder why they bit his hand off. Give this idiot the Darwin Award now
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:05:58pm |
re: #154 AuntAcid
What do you call a farmer with an RPG?
An Arab
Doesn't RPG mean Really Productive Garden?
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:06:35pm |
re: #162 USBeast
Doesn't RPG mean Really Productive Garden?
No, Role-Playing Games (such as Dungeons and Dragons).
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:07:04pm |
re: #162 USBeast
Doesn't RPG mean Really Productive Garden?
No "Report Program Generator" a programming language.
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:07:12pm |
re: #142 albusteve
changing all the signs on the entry doors to UNI is expensive
LOL! If it were only that.... The $5 mil in the article doesn't include a bunch of other associated costs with the fiasco.
They can't handle put in 6 toilets in public places, and now they want me to trust them with $4 Billion to dig a deep bore tunnel?
What do you think?
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:07:38pm |
re: #163 gmsc
No, Role-Playing Games (such as Dungeons and Dragons).
And I thought it meant real polite gunner.
/
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:07:50pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:08:05pm |
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pingjockey Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:08:33pm |
I want someone to show me 2000 year old "Palestinian" coins, ruins, writing. As far as I know, there is NO historical country of Palestine.
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:08:46pm |
re: #127 Miss Trixie
*applause*
Good evening Trixie...
I love Blackberry's with all my heart...Some people think it's a chain to work..the connected generation..workaholics
It has given me freedom.. I can be on a golf course in fine spring weather with friends or family..And if anything happens..I can do anything that needs be done..Crap, I've read LGF once and was posting during a boring dinner party..pretended I was working..so it was OK being sort of rude to hillbillies..
/The whole laughing while pretending to work the email on a BB is kind of a give away...You have to be careful reading LGF when Buzzsaw is posting..It's a total bust.
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AuntAcid Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:08:47pm |
re: #162 USBeast
Doesn't RPG mean Really Productive Garden?
There is at least one in every crowd. ;>/
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:08:51pm |
re: #148 karmic_inquisitor
Bet you that the Chinese government is training legions of Apple hackers. Apple users have long been happy to not have been hacker bait. If the White House goes Mac (as is implied) then Mac users will find all sorts worms, viruses and trojan horses to deal with.
Yup, Macs vaunted "inherent security" has been they haven't had the world wide exposure that Microsoft has had.
Any computer attached to a network can be hacked. Thinking you're safe because of your OS is like thinking your car can't be stolen because of the model.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:09:15pm |
re: #170 pingjockey
As far as I know, there is NO historical country of Palestine.
There isn't, yet, but it's ancient.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:09:22pm |
re: #171 HoosierHoops
HH - have you seen ANY of my replies to you about Paris?
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:09:29pm |
re: #169 Guanxi88
And when he's out of ammo?
A civilian.
Years ago I realized that a Muslim moderate was a Muslim radical who had run out of ammo.
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DEZes Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:09:41pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:10:02pm |
re: #177 USBeast
Years ago I realized that a Muslim moderate was a Muslim radical who had run out of ammo.
I think Kissinger was the first to use that line, and a damned fine line it is, too.
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bulwrk Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:10:15pm |
re: #7 FurryOldGuyJeans
I think that Mexican mogul is rethinking his bailout right about now.
I get the felling the NYT will be hitting up old Muammar for a loan soon.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:10:25pm |
re: #165 jcm
LOL! If it were only that.... The $5 mil in the article doesn't include a bunch of other associated costs with the fiasco.
They can't handle put in 6 toilets in public places, and now they want me to trust them with $4 Billion to dig a deep bore tunnel?
What do you think?
"other cities around the world seem to manage their toilets civily"....bwahahaha...uncivil toilet managers managing the the DEEP BORE!...I get it now
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ted Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:10:30pm |
Reading the comments sections of the NY Times makes the writings of Charles Manson look sane........
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Kragar Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:10:44pm |
re: #179 buzzsawmonkey
Well, if you have a Yugo or a Trabant, it's not likely someone will bother.
Difference between could and would.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:11:21pm |
re: #148 karmic_inquisitor
Bet you that the Chinese government is training legions of Apple hackers. Apple users have long been happy to not have been hacker bait. If the White House goes Mac (as is implied) then Mac users will find all sorts worms, viruses and trojan horses to deal with.
Are you aware that the Mac OS (OSX) kernel (which is called "Darwin" btw) is available in the open? Yet, even with that, OSX is more secure and doesn't suffer the ills that Microsoft Windows variants suffer.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:11:26pm |
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bulwrk Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:11:45pm |
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:12:12pm |
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:12:33pm |
re: #158 Bloodnok
Did I miss something? To whom are you referring?
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:12:35pm |
re: #180 Guanxi88
I think Kissinger was the first to use that line, and a damned fine line it is, too.
Really? I had never heard that and thought it was original.
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:13:17pm |
re: #170 pingjockey
I want someone to show me 2000 year old "Palestinian" coins, ruins, writing. As far as I know, there is NO historical country of Palestine.
When the Romans finally razed the Temple in A.D. 72 and salted the Temple grounds and dispossessed many Jews from the region they changed the provinces name to Palestine to expunge the Jews forever.
Since then "Palestine" was always a province of a distant foreign ruler.
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ted Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:13:38pm |
re: #182 bulwrk
I get the felling the NYT will be hitting up old Muammar for a loan soon.
No he's not........In 6 months it will be the Tijuana Times........
"Todos Las Noticias a Cavar a Printar"
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unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:14:07pm |
Take note: At the New York Times one may only recommend a comment. No other option is available.
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Onslow Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:14:08pm |
Why give this cretin a forum? Libya scapegoated and tortured likely innocent Bulgarian nurses for an HIV epidemic among Libyan children.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:14:11pm |
re: #190 buzzsawmonkey
So is Gadafi marching in this year's Muammar's Parade in Philadelphia? I mean, he's exuding so much brotherly love and all.
He'll be leadomg the Hamas Drum and Bugle Corps...
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:14:49pm |
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:14:58pm |
re: #186 freetoken
Are you aware that the Mac OS (OSX) kernel (which is called "Darwin" btw) is available in the open? Yet, even with that, OSX is more secure and doesn't suffer the ills that Microsoft Windows variants suffer.
The Unix kernel, Darwin is. It's the MacOSX GUI that's proprietary.
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:15:25pm |
Israel to open Gaza Strip crossing to journalists
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel said Thursday it is lifting restrictions on foreign journalists entering the Gaza Strip, a ban that had drawn strong criticism from news media....
[Link: www.google.com...]
This is a mistake.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:15:54pm |
Hey y'all - just thought I'd drop by say hi before I head off for dinner and see what we're all talking about?!
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:16:07pm |
re: #152 Walter L. Newton
Did you get my answer to you about interesting places to see in a weekend in Paris? I repeat it here.
The Holocaust Memorial - hard to find. It is behind Notre Dame, in the park, at the very tip of the Isle de Cite. Small but impressive. It is BELOW ground, so you have to look closely to find it, not well marked, but worth the time to find it.
Carnavalet Museum - the "garage" of France, full of all sorts of objects, but very interesting.
Le Marais - the older Jewish area of Paris, now very much a Greenwich Village sort of area - walk around it, many small cafe's and stores, very nice.
And I know a few girls...
Also, I can put you in contact with the BEST walking tour guide in town. He's in his 70's, American citizen, has lived in Paris for over 30 years, use to work for UNESCO. Click on my name, go to my website and email me and I will pass on a email address.
Thank you so much Walter..I printed it out..I'm excited about visiting the city of lights.. I'll leave Friday from Amsterdam and drive to Paris..I need to find a really cool Hotel Downtown....I prefer walking or Buses when visiting places..
I want to drive through the wine region of France.. As you know I'm a Napa Valley boy...And it was always Napa, France,Napa,france blah blah..We make better wine than you....
Any ideas on a hotel?
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:16:21pm |
re: #199 Dustyvet
He'll be leadomg the Hamas Drum and Bugle Corps...
....to the shores of Tripoli...
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:16:25pm |
re: #193 WhiteRasta
Did I miss something? To whom are you referring?
Gadafi. The Libyan government sponsored the terrorists that downed Flight 103.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:16:30pm |
There's a long quote from Robert Fisk on that comments page.
I won't dignify it with an excerpt.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:16:39pm |
re: #204 realwest
Hey y'all - just thought I'd drop by say hi before I head off for dinner and see what we're all talking about?!
Oh boy...He's broght C-Rations...:)
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:16:45pm |
re: #204 realwest
Hey y'all - just thought I'd drop by say hi before I head off for dinner and see what we're all talking about?!
Shhh! He's here........
/ ;-)
Hiya, Real. How's that Gorebul Warming treating you folks today?
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:17:08pm |
re: #198 Onslow
Excellent - but the Times is noted for it's low class and anti-Americanism, anti-civilization, postures.
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mikalm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:17:10pm |
re: #121 DistantThunder
Coincides with liberalism as a mental illness and reflects a serious lack of maturity. It also reflects self-deception: Some one else is responsible for cleaning up after them.
The great exception to that amongst countercultural doings is Burning Man. Everybody there cleans even the tiniest pieces of foreign matter off the desert-playa floor, partly because the BLM demands they do so, or lose use of the site the next year.
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:17:42pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:18:30pm |
re: #181 WhiteRasta
Linkee no workee...
[Link: www.miamiherald.com...]
How about that one? Works in preview so I hope it works for you.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:18:49pm |
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:19:06pm |
re: #211 buzzsawmonkey
Actually, no: when the Romans destroyed the Temple and crushed the First Revolt they struck coins that said, "Judea Capta."
It was not until the Second Revolt--the Bar Kochba Revolt, some 70 years later--that they changed the name of Judea to "Palestine," changed the name of Jerusalem to "Aeolia Capitolina," and forbade Jews to enter the city on pain of death.
The ethnic cleansing was from the Second, not the First, Revolt.
Thank you for the clarification. I tend to think of the first revolt and destruction of the Temple as the pivot moment, and forget about the second revolt.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:19:22pm |
re: #213 mikalm
The great exception to that amongst countercultural doings is Burning Man. Everybody there cleans even the tiniest pieces of foreign matter off the desert-playa floor, partly because the BLM demands they do so, or lose use of the site the next year.
well yes...under threat of blackmail...
whatever
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:19:31pm |
re: #214 buzzsawmonkey
As long as he doesn't join the Hezbowling team.
Boy, that'd be a hell of a league. Could you imagine what league night would look like. Imagine Beirut, with overpriced pizza and rented shoes.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:20:09pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:20:19pm |
re: #211 buzzsawmonkey
Actually, no: when the Romans destroyed the Temple and crushed the First Revolt they struck coins that said, "Judea Capta."
It was not until the Second Revolt--the Bar Kochba Revolt, some 70 years later--that they changed the name of Judea to "Palestine," changed the name of Jerusalem to "Aeolia Capitolina," and forbade Jews to enter the city on pain of death.
The ethnic cleansing was from the Second, not the First, Revolt.
Right. I have a Bar Kochba revolt coin with "For the Freedom of Jerusalem" on it.
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:21:03pm |
Towards the bottom of the article he says this:
"In absolute terms, the two movements must remain in perpetual war or a compromise must be reached."
He's reduced Hamas and Israel to "two movements." Talk about moral relativism.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:21:10pm |
re: #223 Cato the Elder
Right. I have a Bar Kochba revolt coin with "For the Freedom of Jerusalem" on it.
Sweet! Where in the world did you come across it?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:21:20pm |
re: #224 buzzsawmonkey
And, of course, the losing team would throw their rented shoes at the winners.
good one...
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:21:54pm |
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mikalm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:22:48pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:22:48pm |
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:22:54pm |
re: #224 buzzsawmonkey
And, of course, the losing team would throw their rented shoes at the winners.
I've heard of Chemical Ali, but never Bowling Ali.
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mikalm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:23:18pm |
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:23:35pm |
re: #227 albusteve
good one...
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:23:40pm |
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:23:43pm |
re: #213 mikalm
The great exception to that amongst countercultural doings is Burning Man. Everybody there cleans even the tiniest pieces of foreign matter off the desert-playa floor, partly because the BLM demands they do so, or lose use of the site the next year.
re: #219 albusteve
well yes...under threat of blackmail...
whatever
Exactly. If you didn't threaten to take away their postmodern hedonist playground, they wouldn't clean up jack s**t. They have more important things to f**k, and to smoke. Screw burning man, and all it's pseudo-intellectual garbage/art. They can go transcendentally meditate their irrational selves into nonexistance.
*spit*
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:23:48pm |
re: #232 Bloodnok
I've heard of Chemical Ali, but never Bowling Ali.
most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east.
you dont want to play him.
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vagabond trader Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:23:49pm |
The Arabs had their unclenched fist and Arafat spit on it. Khadafi is an unrepentant terror enabler, responsible for the murder of 270 innocent people in 1988 on Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie Scotland.Farrakhan and Wright visited him after this atrocity.Fug them all and the sudden ME experts blathering in the NYT.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:24:24pm |
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:24:26pm |
re: #225 Unakite
Towards the bottom of the article he says this:
"In absolute terms, the two movements must remain in perpetual war or a compromise must be reached."
He's reduced Hamas and Israel to "two movements." Talk about moral relativism.
A low supersonic pass with a Navy F/A-18 and Quackdaffi will have a movement.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:24:27pm |
re: #214 buzzsawmonkey
As long as he doesn't join the Hezbowling team.
Moon over Gaza, bring my love to me tonight.
Guide her to Jibaliya, underneath your silvery light.
We’re going Hezbowlin’ so don’t loose her in an extension.
Moon over Gaza, tonight!
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lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:25:55pm |
A key prerequisite for peace is the right of return for Palestinian refugees to the homes their families left behind in 1948. It is an injustice that Jews who were not originally inhabitants of Palestine, nor were their ancestors, can move in from abroad while Palestinians who were displaced only a relatively short time ago should not be so permitted.
Now let's try some variations on this theme:
A key prerequisite for peace is the right of return for German refugees to the homes their families left behind in 1945. it is an injustice that Russians who were not originally inhabitants of East Prussia, nor were their ancestors, can move in from abroad while Germans who were displaced only a relatively short time ago should not be so permitted.
A key prerequisite for peace is the right of return for Serbian refugees to the homes their families left behind in 1995. it is an injustice that Muslims who were not originally inhabitants of Kosovo, nor were their ancestors, can move in from abroad while Serbs who were displaced only a relatively short time ago should not be so permitted.
A key prerequisite for peace is the right of return for Vietnamese refugees to the homes their families left behind in 1974. it is an injustice that Vietnamese who were not originally inhabitants of South Vietnam, nor were their ancestors, can move in from the North while South Vietnamese who were displaced only a relatively short time ago should not be so permitted.
A key prerequisite for peace is the right of return for Cuban refugees to the homes their families left behind in 1959. it is an injustice that Communists who were not originally inhabitants of Cuba, nor were their ancestors, can move in from abroad while Cubans who were displaced only a relatively short time ago should not be so permitted.
How do all these tracts differ from Qadaffi's? They are the same in their merits, or better. But because they do not involve an advantage to Muslims combined with a disadvantage to Jews, they can be evaluated dispassionately on their merits. Needless to say, each, and other similar scenarios involving Hindus ethnically cleansed from Bangladesh and Kashmir, are transparently bad ideas. The whole business of reopening old wounds and old wars, so that they may be re-fought, is immediately repellent. Even the notion of allowing Muslims expelled from India during the mutual ethnic cleansing that accompanied the partition of British India into what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, to reclaim their homes, would be rejected by Qadafi as impractical and likely to lead quickly to yet another war, one of too many already between Muslims and Hindus of the subcontinent.
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mikalm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:26:53pm |
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:27:15pm |
re: #237 Buster Bunny
most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east.
you dont want to play him.
What, Cand El Pin bowling?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:27:53pm |
re: #205 HoosierHoops
Thank you so much Walter..I printed it out..I'm excited about visiting the city of lights.. I'll leave Friday from Amsterdam and drive to Paris..I need to find a really cool Hotel Downtown....I prefer walking or Buses when visiting places..
I want to drive through the wine region of France.. As you know I'm a Napa Valley boy...And it was always Napa, France,Napa,france blah blah..We make better wine than you....
Any ideas on a hotel?
If you're only spending a weekend, you may not have time for all that driving. You'll be coming down from the north. I don't know about the wine regions of the north (are there any), I have spent most of my time in Paris and eastern France, not north, south or west. Of course east, you have Burgundy (La Bourgogne) and the whole Cote' de Or valley, all the way down south.
Stay, well, I stay cheap, so I can't give you any recommendations for central Paris places. But if you want small, cheap and non-touristy, then go for anything in the 12th district. Try streets like Rue de Lyon, Rue Parrot, anything in that area. Lot's of 2 star places. And just a few blocks from Garde de Lyon (big train station), where you can get the Metro (subway), a lot of different lines come in there. Do try buses, kind of confusing in Paris.
If you are only going to be there for a weekend, you will probably be most interested in things to see along Metro Line 1 (yellow) it goes east to west, and stops at places like Bastille, St. Paul, Hotel d'cite (city hall, Notre damn), Louvre, Arc de Triomphe. la Defense etc. If you stay in the 12th district, you can get Line 1 at Gare de Lyon, go up and down the line and see all sorts of stuff in one day.
Get a Metro map BEFORE you leave, and see where that Yellow Line 1 goes. It really hits most of the high points of Paris (except the Tour Eiffel).
And of course, Google maps and Google earth helps a lot. You can get Metro maps online for free, print them out. Gee, if I knew you were going earlier, I could have just planned the whole thing out for you LOL.
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:28:18pm |
re: #234 Dustyvet
Thank you for noticing this notice. Now that you've noticed this notice, you may have noticed that this notice is noticably unnoticable.
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jhrhv Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:28:27pm |
The comments about that article on the NYT site show just how out of touch with reality the left are. They are talking about who are the adults. They aren't moonbats they are fing dingbats.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:28:45pm |
The terrorist murderer Arafat won a Nobel Prize. Perhaps, with this article and other efforts, the Pan Am terrorist murderer Gadafi can join his bosom buddy.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:28:47pm |
re: #84 freedombilly
At least the Jew eating rabbit is dead!
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Karridine Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:29:13pm |
re: #237 Buster Bunny
most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east.you don't want to play him.
He's a Hez-bowlah, isn't he? Breaks 100 every game?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:29:30pm |
Hi guys!
What did I miss?
I saw Hillary bring on not one, but two, freaking retreads who will, of course, solve the whole Israeli problem by either making a Palestine or blowing it up, I couldn't figure out which.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:29:51pm |
re: #255 Karridine
He's a Hez-bowlah, isn't he? Breaks 100 every game?
As a hez-bowlah we may never know the true result of the game.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:30:02pm |
re: #186 freetoken
Are you aware that the Mac OS (OSX) kernel (which is called "Darwin" btw) is available in the open? Yet, even with that, OSX is more secure and doesn't suffer the ills that Microsoft Windows variants suffer.
Yes - I know it is open source.
It is a numbers game - the numbers of Windows boxes out there and the numbers of vendors slapping things on Windows (with varying levels of concern about things like restricting memory management and managing buffer overflows) have made Windows a big, fat target.
As Apple takes over market share from Windows (which it will continue to do) and as corporate and government users adopt Mac (which hasn't happened en mass yet) hackers will shift focus to the target with biggest potential returns.
UNIX and Linux have had all sorts of attacks as they became standards for corporate servers. Mac will get the same. It is just a computer that crunches 1s and 0s. If it is on a public network it is vulnerable.
/BTW - it isn't a Mac vs Windows thing. Windows is shit and I have had to write apps against it since 1988.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:30:13pm |
re: #249 Bloodnok
What, Cand El Pin bowling?
The 0bama adminstration has already tried giving bowling balls to Hamas, in order to encourage peaceful activities.
How did it work out? Well . . .
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:30:19pm |
re: #245 lostlakehiker
I suspect he ought to complain to a)the UN b) Jordan or c) Egypt about the "Palestinians" who never lived where Israel is. But it's funny, the Arab nations never seem to want to take ANY jordyptians into their countries.
Howsabout it Colonel Gahdafi? Why don't y'all offer 'em a chunk of Libya - not the oil wells, ya know the other parts!
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:30:30pm |
re: #237 Buster Bunny
most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east.
you dont want to play him.
No, he just tells he's the most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east. He never looked behind him at the pins he didn't knock down.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:30:30pm |
re: #241 jcm
A low supersonic pass with a Navy F/A-18 and Quackdaffi will have a movement.
earlier today I logged off after the bit about defense cuts and such...I go out into the patio in the sunshine and hear all this noise...I look up and once again there are two C 130s and three F16s floating down the valley headed for Kirtland AFB...Moomar is dirt
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:31:48pm |
re: #241 jcm
A low supersonic pass with a Navy F/A-18 and Quackdaffi will have a movement.
Didn't they try that with F-111's?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:32:19pm |
re: #259 buzzsawmonkey
Hoops, why on earth are you driving? Take a train; there are lots of 'em, they are fast, and you don't have to worry about a car. You're likely going to be using public transport for the most part in Amsterdam or Paris anyway, when you're not walking--and a cab or two can take up the slack if there is any. You really don't need a car.
I agree. You can get trains in Amsterdam and go right into Paris in under 3 hours. And from there, the Metro to your hotel, and then the Metro just about anywhere in town.
I rarely ever drive (unless I'm visiting the countryside, and then, you can take a high speed train out). You can practically do Europe on rail.
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Karridine Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:32:22pm |
re: #257 Buster Bunny
As a hez-bowlah we may never know the true result of the game.
Aloha Snackbar closed for renovation...
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:32:30pm |
re: #262 Unakite
No, he just tells he's the most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east. He never looked behind him at the pins he didn't knock down.
From my understanding of how he plays the game, out of the ten pins ... at least 3 are knocked down against their will.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:32:41pm |
re: #264 Unakite
Didn't they try that with F-111's?
not that hard...just a little slap across the chops
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:34:06pm |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
I agree. You can get trains in Amsterdam and go right into Paris in under 3 hours. And from there, the Metro to your hotel, and then the Metro just about anywhere in town.
I rarely ever drive (unless I'm visiting the countryside, and then, you can take a high speed train out). You can practically do Europe on rail.
driving in a foreign country is an adventure on it's own...Jamaica is where I survive
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:34:49pm |
re: #237 Buster Bunny
most dangerous ten-pin bowler in the whole middle east.
you dont want to play him.
"Bowling Ali has picked up every 7-10 split he has ever faced. All of the pins tremble in his shadow. There is no evidence his foot was over the line."
/his bowling partner Baghdad "Air Strike" Bob (AKA Mujapindeen)
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:34:54pm |
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed?
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:34:56pm |
re: #258 karmic_inquisitor
Hi karmic! Um, "As Apple takes over market share from Windows (which it will continue to do) and as corporate and government users adopt Mac (which hasn't happened en mass yet)" I don't get it. IF corporate and government still prefer PC's over Macs, how is it that Apple is taking over market share?
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:34:59pm |
re: #257 Buster Bunny
As a hez-bowlah we may never know the true result of the game.
He should switch teams and join Fez-Bowla.
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So? Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:35:34pm |
THE shocking level of the last wave of Israeli-Palestinian violence...blah, blah...
What, you weren't shocked as 6000 rockets and 4, 500 mortars were fired into Israel? Only shocked when Israel responds. I think one of your fur coats are calling you...
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:35:46pm |
re: #264 Unakite
Didn't they try that with F-111's?
I don't think they played games on that strike, they hit where they thought -dafi was. Too long of a mission, with real targets, for games.
A couple of years back the IAF did do a supersonic pass over Assad's palace in Damascus. They had just hit a terrorist training camp North and East of Damascus. That was a message.
If we wanted to we could.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:36:09pm |
re: #269 albusteve
Well we did manage to kill one of his daughters didn't we? Or was it one of his sisters? Wives? Damn senior moments!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:36:12pm |
re: #272 Dustyvet
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed?
Hitting it early tonight?
I better catch up.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:36:15pm |
re: #226 Guanxi88
Sweet! Where in the world did you come across it?
I got it on my first trip to Israel, with the help of our excellent tour guide.
I've got a gold chain and alternate wearing it with the Bar Kochba coin and a nice big Celtic cross.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:36:31pm |
re: #270 albusteve
driving in a foreign country is an adventure on it's own...Jamaica is where I survive
My "favorite" road adventure. Poland. Ninety percent 2 lane roads, and leap frogging is a national sport. Scary as all hell.
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jcm Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:36:45pm |
re: #278 realwest
Well we did manage to kill one of his daughters didn't we? Or was it one of his sisters? Wives? Damn senior moments!
Daughter, in the tent where we thought he was.
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Karridine Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:36:51pm |
Well, I could rag on Moomar all day, but it wouldn't offer any solutions... and the possibility that God has made an end-run around all the nay-saying Islamic clergy and their 'the hand of God is chained up' ranting, is disallowed for the time being, so I'm off to a job interview in lovely, green, fragrant suburban Bangkok...
Catch y'all on the git-back... :D
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:37:07pm |
re: #272 Dustyvet
That was excellent Dusty! How be you tonight?
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bulwrk Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:37:08pm |
re: #214 buzzsawmonkey
As long as he doesn't join the Hezbowling team.
He wanted to but he didn't have the time to spare.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:37:18pm |
re: #264 Unakite
Didn't they try that with F-111's?
Nothing says you care like sending a bunch of 'Varks.......
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:37:46pm |
re: #273 realwest
Hi karmic! Um, "As Apple takes over market share from Windows (which it will continue to do) and as corporate and government users adopt Mac (which hasn't happened en mass yet)" I don't get it. IF corporate and government still prefer PC's over Macs, how is it that Apple is taking over market share?
Market share can grow, yet still be in the minority.
If something's market share goes from 10% to 15%, while it's competitor shrinks from 90% to 85%, market share has grown for the smaller company, but it could still be said that the larger competitor is still preferred.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:37:48pm |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
You can practically do Europe on rail.
I did for two months years ago and I loved it. From Bodo, Norway in the Arctic Circle to the south of Portugal.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:38:07pm |
re: #282 jcm ah, so my memory isn't all that bad. Yeah I know we were after him, not his daughter. But it sure brought him up short and quick!
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:38:11pm |
re: #279 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Hitting it early tonight?
I better catch up.
Nah , just sort of sitting here with nothing to do...:( and tomorrows hell day...
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:38:15pm |
Good evening.
The market dropped about 1.5% today and is down about 4% since he got sworn in.
The futures are pointing down right now for tomorrow.
But on the bright side, New York Times stock dropped 7% today.
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stuiec Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:38:46pm |
For the same reasons, the older idea of partition of the West Bank into Jewish and Arab areas, with buffer zones between them, won’t work. The Palestinian-held areas could not accommodate all of the refugees, and buffer zones symbolize exclusion and breed tension. Israelis and Palestinians have also become increasingly intertwined, economically and politically.
Hmmm... that kind of thinking didn't stop the Arabs from keeping Jews (those that they suffered to live) in ghettoes throughout the Arab lands for a thousand years. Indeed, if they started to think of Israel as just another ghetto for the Jews of the Mideast, they might like that idea -- and I am sure the Israelis would let them cling to that fantasy if it meant peace.
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:38:55pm |
re: #250 Walter L. Newton
You rock dude..Thanks so much and good luck with that programming job..
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:39:12pm |
re: #276 buzzsawmonkey
A friend of mine, when he's in Italy, actually goes to the next town over if he's going to be visiting some touristy place like Siena, because the hotels are cheaper in the less-favored destination and it's easy to take a commuter train in for the day and back.
Right. Last time I visited the Roman ruins in Lyon, I stayed about 10 miles east of town in a small pensioner.
That's why I advised HH to stay in the 12th district. The two star hotels there are clean, cheaper, a lot of day tripping business men, small but hell, you're just gonna sleep in the room, not entertain a wedding and it is very accessible to the Metro, a number of lines and the most important line, Line 1 (yellow)
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:39:47pm |
re: #283 Karridine
Hey my friend! Good luck with that job interview!
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:39:53pm |
re: #272 Dustyvet
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed?
French fries degreased?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:40:16pm |
re: #292 Dustyvet
Nah , just sort of sitting here with nothing to do...:( and tomorrows hell day...
Hell day? The meeting with the VA maybe?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:08pm |
re: #278 realwest
Well we did manage to kill one of his daughters didn't we? Or was it one of his sisters? Wives? Damn senior moments!
a daughter I think...not pretty and that wasnt the point but thats the way stuff goes down
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:12pm |
re: #272 Dustyvet
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed?
Lawyers legitimized?
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:15pm |
re: #293 3 wood
Hello my friend! So what's it selling at - about $2.25 a share?
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bulwrk Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:44pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:45pm |
re: #295 HoosierHoops
You rock dude..Thanks so much and good luck with that programming job..
Thanks. Really, if you have never been there, you may fall in love with it and never want to come back.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:46pm |
re: #273 realwest
Hi karmic! Um, "As Apple takes over market share from Windows (which it will continue to do) and as corporate and government users adopt Mac (which hasn't happened en mass yet)" I don't get it. IF corporate and government still prefer PC's over Macs, how is it that Apple is taking over market share?
Corporate buyers go fof having everyone on the same thing. Some companies do a "refresh" every few years and bring in a contractor to change everyone's machine to a new one. Others give an intranet site where users can order one of three or four models.
In both cases the idea is to simplify support and have more leverage over the vendor, both of which (theoretically) lower total cost of ownership.
Creative departments may get Macs, but most others get PCs. Many have started going over to Linux. The Obama craze may start getting ceos and execs to insist on being all Apple for their image, and if you already have Linux desktops it isn't a big change to start letting folks get Macs too. So that is how I see that unfolding.
JMO
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:56pm |
re: #272 Dustyvet
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed?
Can math teachers be nonplussed.....
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:41:59pm |
Family tragedy alert. I just discovered that one of my DD's Guinea Pigs, her favorite, has shuffled off this mortal coil and joined the Choir Invisible. All is chaos.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:42:00pm |
re: #281 Walter L. Newton
My "favorite" road adventure. Poland. Ninety percent 2 lane roads, and leap frogging is a national sport. Scary as all hell.
I'm hip...Jamaicans appear immortal in that regard
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:42:46pm |
re: #300 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Hell day? The meeting with the VA maybe?
That, and an appointment at VA Hospital North Chicago. Getting the ticker checked...
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:42:47pm |
re: #259 buzzsawmonkey
Hoops, why on earth are you driving? Take a train; there are lots of 'em, they are fast, and you don't have to worry about a car. You're likely going to be using public transport for the most part in Amsterdam or Paris anyway, when you're not walking--and a cab or two can take up the slack if there is any.
You really don't need a car.
Well i totally agree..But my company pays for a MB when i go to Europe and all the gas and lodging..But you maybe right..Trains, Buses, taxis, Bikes...
Thanks Buzz!
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:42:53pm |
re: #290 solomonpanting
I did for two months years ago and I loved it. From Bodo, Norway in the Arctic Circle to the south of Portugal.
I can second the advice about skipping the car and taking the trains in Europe, Hoops! I lived in Germany for ten years and never owned a car. All my short- and long-distance travel was on trains. And I never had to worry about parking. The only times I ever used a car was when moving house, and then I would borrow one.
Renting cars in Europe isn't cheap, either. And the train lets you gawk at the scenery or read.
You'll be a lot less stressed out without the wheels, believe me.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:43:11pm |
re: #292 Dustyvet
Uh oh, that's right - tomorrow is the meeting at the VA isn't it?
Good luck to ya brother.
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:44:19pm |
re: #277 jcm
I don't think they played games on that strike, they hit where they thought -dafi was. Too long of a mission, with real targets, for games.
A couple of years back the IAF did do a supersonic pass over Assad's palace in Damascus. They had just hit a terrorist training camp North and East of Damascus. That was a message.
If we wanted to we could.
You're right. I forgot, but I remember reading about that.
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Tigger2005 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:44:28pm |
The New York Grimes? They still print that rag?
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:44:35pm |
re: #314 realwest
Uh oh, that's right - tomorrow is the meeting at the VA isn't it?
Good luck to ya brother.
Yeah, I think I going to need it...Thanks Real...:)
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hous bin pharteen Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:44:36pm |
I log in to the computer and see on MSN's website that the Mayor of Portland had a high school age sex partner, but it strangely does not say what political party he is from. I had to check 5 "news" sites before I see what political group he was with. It seems like a current requirement to run for office in the democratic party. Like Bill and Monica, Ted "roadway killer" Kennedy, etc.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:44:50pm |
re: #311 Dustyvet
That, and an appointment at VA Hospital North Chicago. Getting the ticker checked...
Ticker been ok so far?
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:45:07pm |
re: #272 Dustyvet
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed?
Pigs disgruntled?
Podiatrists defeated?
Castle guards demoted?
Asian people disoriented?
Musicians decomposed?
Artists designed?
Baseball players debased?
Horse breeders desired?
0bama devoted?
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:45:38pm |
re: #311 Dustyvet
That, and an appointment at VA Hospital North Chicago. Getting the ticker checked...
Hope it can take a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.......
Good luck......
:)
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:45:39pm |
re: #319 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Ticker been ok so far?
Has been since the attack in 2001...crossing fingers...
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:45:48pm |
re: #290 solomonpanting
I did for two months years ago and I loved it. From Bodo, Norway in the Arctic Circle to the south of Portugal.
Wow! what was your favorite place?
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:46:04pm |
re: #321 LGoPs
Hope it can take a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.......
Good luck......
:)
Thanks...:)
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:46:31pm |
re: #306 karmic_inquisitor
The newer Intel-based Apples are great for running Vista, or so I hear.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:46:32pm |
re: #306 karmic_inquisitor
OK, I got it. During my lifetime with computers, MS has always been the preferred OS - whether it was 4.2 through XP Pro - wish they'd hurry up and get VISTA though, since I'm stuck with VISTA and a surprising (to me) amount of software hasn't been made VISTA compatible.
And yes, my friends in the creative art's workforce - if that's not an oxymoron, have always preferred Apple products.
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Unakite Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:46:58pm |
re: #278 realwest
Well we did manage to kill one of his daughters didn't we? Or was it one of his sisters? Wives? Damn senior moments!
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:47:47pm |
re: #317 Dustyvet Well then Double Triple Quadruple luck to you! Seriously my friend - I do hope the VA does right by you.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:48:10pm |
re: #321 LGoPs
Hope it can take a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.......
Good luck......
:)
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So? Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:48:13pm |
Isratine. Just add 3 tablespoons of sugar and a whole lot of cream to take away its utterly bitter taste.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:48:26pm |
re: #322 Dustyvet
Has been since the attack in 2001...crossing fingers...
Good luck with it and the appointment.
/don't let your ticker know GWB isn't firmly in command at the WH and you'll be fine.
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:48:35pm |
Geithner throws rocks at China just when we need them to buy our debt
Geithner Warning on Yuan May Trigger Renewed U.S.-China Tension an. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Timothy Geithner’s warning that President Barack Obama believes China is “manipulating” its currency may trigger renewed tensions between two of the world’s three biggest economies.
Geithner, Obama’s nominee for Treasury secretary, also told senators the administration will press China to “adopt a more aggressive stimulus package” to boost its domestic economy. The remarks on manipulation were a shift from President George W. Bush’s team, which stopped short of using the term in criticizing China’s exchange-rate management.
“The signal this sends is not good” for ties between the two nations, said Charles Freeman, a fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and former top trade negotiator for China at the U.S. Trade Representative’s office. “It opens a Pandora’s box. We need the Chinese to hold onto their Treasury and agency debt.”
Geithner’s comments triggered a drop in Treasuries on concern that demand from China, the largest foreign investor in U.S. government debt, may wane. They may also reignite calls among some U.S. lawmakers for measures to punish trading partners perceived to have undervalued exchange rates.
Not to worry though, Charlie Rangel is on the job too:
“What they can’t work out diplomatically we can work out legislatively,” said Representative Charles Rangel of New York, who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction over trade issues, in an interview. “The committee has been saying for years” that China has manipulated the yuan’s value, he said.
Whether or not china is juggling their currency value is beside the point. For the foreseeable future we need them to buy our debt and hold on to it.
Pissing on their shoes in public may play well to some on the left, but it's very naive and poor diplomacy.
And here I thought the Messiah was going to get along with everybody.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:48:47pm |
re: #328 realwest
Well then
DoubleTripleQuadruple luck to you! Seriously my friend - I do hope the VA does right by you.
Me too... Thanks
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:48:57pm |
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:49:08pm |
re: #309 USBeast
Family tragedy alert. I just discovered that one of my DD's Guinea Pigs, her favorite, has shuffled off this mortal coil and joined the Choir Invisible. All is chaos.
Mervyn: Here, let me try, dear. You go and play the cello.
Mrs Little: Oh it doesn't do any good, dear.
Mervyn: Look. Do you want the little hamster to live or not?
Mrs Little: Yes I do, Mervyn.
Mervyn: Well go and play the cello!
/sorry, obscure Monty Python sketch. Sorry to hear about the Guinea Pig.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:49:28pm |
re: #278 realwest
Well we did manage to kill one of his daughters didn't we? Or was it one of his sisters? Wives? Damn senior moments!
Reminds me of a joke. Bedouin guy goes to court to get a divorce. Judge works out the details for them, they sign the agreement. Wife is crying, "Oh, it's awful, I'll never see you again. What'll happen to the kids?"
Husband said, "Calm down. Look, even though were no longer man and wife, we're still brother and sister. We always look after our own, don't we."
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:49:31pm |
re: #327 Unakite
Ya know, I'd heard that too! Oh, wait, I SAID that too!
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:50:06pm |
re: #303 realwest
Hello my friend! So what's it selling at - about $2.25 a share?
About $5.58 a share.
Pretty soon you will get a share of stock as a premium with each paper sold.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:50:44pm |
re: #338 3 wood
About $5.58 a share.
Pretty soon you will get a share of stock as a premium with each paper sold.
I heard they were just going to stick them in the Sunday edition, along with the magazine.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:50:58pm |
re: #334 LGoPs
I'll have to see it later.....blocked at work unfortunately.
Not a problem I posted the wrong one...:(
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Rhino Dryke Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:51:13pm |
All Qaddafi needs is some ruby slippers and he's all set. That shoe store in Oz must have got some bailout. Another NYT op-ed brainstorm.
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:51:17pm |
re: #338 3 wood
About $5.58 a share.
Pretty soon you will get a share of stock as a premium with each paper sold.
Their Sunday edition will cost more than stock in the company.
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:51:37pm |
re: #313 Cato the Elder
I can second the advice about skipping the car and taking the trains in Europe, Hoops! I lived in Germany for ten years and never owned a car. All my short- and long-distance travel was on trains. And I never had to worry about parking. The only times I ever used a car was when moving house, and then I would borrow one.
Renting cars in Europe isn't cheap, either. And the train lets you gawk at the scenery or read.
You'll be a lot less stressed out without the wheels, believe me.
Thanks Cato..
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:51:57pm |
re: #311 Dustyvet
That, and an appointment at VA Hospital North Chicago. Getting the ticker checked...
BTW...didn't know you were from Chicago. It's my kind of town......
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:52:35pm |
re: #338 3 wood
ROTFL! Yep, I reckon you're right about that!
Oh and btw, I'm surprised China doesn't cash in it's Treasuries before Obama gets the printing presses rolling and drops the value of the dollar out of sight!
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:53:17pm |
re: #335 Bloodnok
Mervyn: Here, let me try, dear. You go and play the cello.
Mrs Little: Oh it doesn't do any good, dear.
Mervyn: Look. Do you want the little hamster to live or not?
Mrs Little: Yes I do, Mervyn.
Mervyn: Well go and play the cello!/sorry, obscure Monty Python sketch. Sorry to hear about the Guinea Pig.
Thank you. My DD's first reaction was to hang the messenger, but she's over that now. Funeral tomorrow. In lieu of flowers please make a donation to Arkansas Children's Hospital.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:53:34pm |
re: #309 USBeast
Family tragedy alert. I just discovered that one of my DD's Guinea Pigs, her favorite, has shuffled off this mortal coil and joined the Choir Invisible. All is chaos.
It is awful. We had about a dozen of the little guys; each death was a true heart-break.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:53:43pm |
re: #341 Rhino Dryke
All Qaddafi needs is some ruby slippers and he's all set. That shoe store in Oz must have got some bailout. Another NYT op-ed brainstorm.
Qaddafi: Mirror, mirror om the wall, who is the fairest of them all?
Mirror: Well it ain't you cup cake, now may I finish dinner?
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hous bin pharteen Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:54:48pm |
re: #333 Dustyvet
Don't worry to much. Just be stobern mentally. Good things happen.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:55:23pm |
re: #344 LGoPs
BTW...didn't know you were from Chicago. It's my kind of town......
I'm not I just love here 50 miles north of Chicago. I'm a fugitive from the land of the liberal loon.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:55:23pm |
re: #349 Dustyvet
Qaddafi: Mirror, mirror om the wall, who is the fairest of them all?
Mirror:
Well it ain't you cup cake, now may I finish dinner?Ask me that again and see who I bring down on your head!
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:55:23pm |
re: #343 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! When are you going to Europe? How come ya didn't invite me?!
:)
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Soona' Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:55:25pm |
re: #332 3 wood
Geithner throws rocks at China just when we need them to buy our debt
Geithner Warning on Yuan May Trigger Renewed U.S.-China Tension an. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Timothy Geithner’s warning that President Barack Obama believes China is “manipulating” its currency may trigger renewed tensions between two of the world’s three biggest economies.
Whether or not china is juggling their currency value is beside the point. For the foreseeable future we need them to buy our debt and hold on to it.Pissing on their shoes in public may play well to some on the left, but it's very naive and poor diplomacy.
And here I thought the Messiah was going to get along with everybody.
Just another sledge hammer poised to smash the US, lead by the intellectual giants of the zero team.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:56:45pm |
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:56:54pm |
re: #293 3 wood
Good evening.
The market dropped about 1.5% today and is down about 4% since he got sworn in.
The futures are pointing down right now for tomorrow.
But on the bright side, New York Times stock dropped 7% today.
The NYT got a big cash infusion yesterday which should keep it afloat for a few more months. Wonder how they'll cover this guy now that he owns 17% of the paper?
MEXICO CITY (Dow Jones)--Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim's $250 million financial lifeline to the New York Times Co. (NYT) is an investment, a spokesman for Slim said Thursday.
"Look, we're considering the possibility of investing in anything that makes financial sense," Arturo Elias Ayub told press on the sidelines of an event when asked if Slim was looking to invest in other newspaper companies.
With print subscriptions declining and Internet news sources competing for readers and advertisers, the U.S. newspaper industry was in a precarious situation even before the credit crisis and subsequent economic downturn.
The New York Times is in a tough spot financially with its debt rated as "junk" by Standard & Poor's, a share price that has plunged 70% in the past year, and $1.1 billion in total debt and just $46 million in cash on its balance sheet at the end of September.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:56:58pm |
re: #347 USBeast
Thank you. My DD's first reaction was to hang the messenger, but she's over that now. Funeral tomorrow. In lieu of flowers please make a donation to Arkansas Children's Hospital.
And right on cue as I was reading your response the dog I am babysitting just threw up on the carpet. BBIAB.
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:57:19pm |
re: #345 buzzsawmonkey
One other thing, Hoops, if you're still here. Granted that the car-be-ques in Paris are mostly in the outlying suburbs. But why saddle yourself with a big piece of machinery that might have a chance of becoming a suddenly non-mobile shwarma rotisserie?
Parking in Paris is at least as bad as parking in New York. I do that, because I live here--but I avoid driving into Manhattan as much as I can. Dealing with all that in a foreign language is borrowing trouble, in my view.
Great Advice!
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:57:29pm |
re: #348 Guanxi88
It is awful. We had about a dozen of the little guys; each death was a true heart-break.
Space being limited we only had two. The survivor seems to be OK but I am concerned. I know they are gregarious critters and I worry about her pining away.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:57:37pm |
re: #355 Soona'
Just another sledge hammer poised to smash the US, lead by the intellectual giants of the zero team.
But didn't you hear? They've banned torture! Yayyyy. Everyone loves us again. There are no more terrorists. It's cotton candy farts and Peeps for everyone!
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:57:57pm |
re: #342 Bloodnok
Their Sunday edition will cost more than stock in the company.
The Sunday edition plus one weekday/Saturday edition is $5.50 at the newsstand.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:58:40pm |
re: #360 USBeast
Space being limited we only had two. The survivor seems to be OK but I am concerned. I know they are gregarious critters and I worry about her pining away.
For the Fjords? (sorry)
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Macker Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:58:51pm |
re: #357 MJ
I know it wasn't me who first coined the paper Nuevo York Tiempos....but it sticks.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:59:31pm |
re: #357 MJ
From your link: "The New York Times is in a tough spot financially with its debt rated as "junk" by Standard & Poor's, " I wonder how it got rated that highly?!?
;')
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:59:46pm |
re: #349 Dustyvet
Qaddafi: Mirror, mirror om the wall, who is the fairest of them all?
Mirror: Well it ain't you cup cake, now may I finish
dinnermy waffle?
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 4:59:50pm |
re: #354 realwest
Hey Hoops! When are you going to Europe? How come ya didn't invite me?!
:)
LOL
I go to our Amsterdam office every single year...It's usually in and out and work your ass off for 5 days..This year I'm visiting Paris on the weekend.
Of course you are invited any time..I'd hook you up bro..LOL
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:00:17pm |
re: #358 Bloodnok
And right on cue as I was reading your response the dog I am babysitting just threw up on the carpet. BBIAB.
Quit reading such depressing things to your guests. /
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:08pm |
re: #358 Bloodnok
And right on cue as I was reading your response the dog I am babysitting just threw up on the carpet. BBIAB.
That will teach you to leave the TV on CNN. Poor thing.
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:14pm |
re: #368 HoosierHoops
I know you would! But gee thanks, I'm busy just then, dagnabit!
:)
Seriously, try to have some fun and remember they are cracking down on what's permissable in Amersterdamn!
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:15pm |
I had a great-uncle that toured Europe in a tank.
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hous bin pharteen Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:35pm |
re: #359 HoosierHoops
I know this sounds funny, but you can always rent that french car, Renault Clio. There small, get good gas mileage, and are fun to drive, and easy to park.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:36pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:45pm |
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realwest Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:01:59pm |
Whoops, Mom just called dinner - gotta go - hope I get the chance to see you all down the road tonight!
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MJ Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:02:03pm |
re: #365 realwest
From your link: "The New York Times is in a tough spot financially with its debt rated as "junk" by Standard & Poor's, " I wonder how it got rated that highly?!?
;')
The contents of the paper is rated "crap".
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:02:13pm |
re: #371 realwest
I know you would! But gee thanks, I'm busy just then, dagnabit!
:)
Seriously, try to have some fun and remember they are cracking down on what's permissable in Amersterdamn!
Yup. A certain area got trimmed. Guess it became a little unsightly.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:02:38pm |
re: #372 OldLineTexan
I had a great-uncle that toured Europe in a tank.
probably didnt have a parking problem...
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:02:40pm |
re: #323 HoosierHoops
Wow! what was your favorite place?
Boy, that's really hard to say. Alfalma district in Lisbon, camping a couple days in a town I can't remember outside of Lucerne (reached only by cog train), ambling around Paris, cruise down the Rhine. I made friends with a German while in Norway. He invited myself and girlfriend at that time to visit at his parent's house in Solingen, where we were treated like pearls in the lap of luxury. He's been to the US several times to visit and we still call each other on birthdays.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:02:46pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:02:58pm |
re: #360 USBeast
Space being limited we only had two. The survivor seems to be OK but I am concerned. I know they are gregarious critters and I worry about her pining away.
They'll do that. We lost Shadow-Pig that way; all his friends were gone and he went right off his food. If you can, get another piggy for the survivor.
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:03:37pm |
The money supply as measured by M1 and M2 are growing at a very rapid rate.
Fed Balance-Sheet Assets Decline to $2.04 Trillion
Buried down near the bottom of this article is this:
The Fed said the M2 money supply rose by $8 billion in the week ended Jan. 12. That left M2 growing at an annual rate of 8.9 percent for the past 52 weeks, above the target of 5 percent the Fed once set for maximum growth. The central bank no longer has a formal target.
The Fed reports two measures of the money supply each week. M1 includes all currency held by consumers and companies for spending, money held in checking accounts and travelers checks. M2, the more widely followed, adds savings and private holdings in money market mutual funds.
During the latest reporting week, M1 fell by $36.4 billion. Over the past 52 weeks, M1 rose 13.7 percent.
Just more evidence that high inflation is just a matter of time. If the velocity of money (how many times a given dollar changes hands in 1 year) speeds up too, look out.
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mean Gene Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:03:58pm |
Congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand is the reported choice of Governor David Paterson to fill the U.S. Senate seat vacated by Hillary Clinton. Two Congressional sources say members of the New York delegation have been invited to join Governor Paterson for the announcement in Albany at noon tomorrow.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:04:48pm |
re: #381 gmsc
....and jockeys derided...
Math teachers nonplussed
ok, that's a repeat....I'm running out of ideas......
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:05:04pm |
re: #385 mean Gene
The only one they could find that wasn't having an affair and had paid the majority of her taxes?
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nevergiveup Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:05:09pm |
Hamas takes control of all Gaza tunnels
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Hamas has seized control of all the smuggling tunnels under the Philadelphi Corridor in southern Gaza and has been moving additional arms into the Strip since Operation Cast Lead ended on Sunday morning.
Exactly what Truce does Obama think he is supporting?
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:05:14pm |
re: #386 LGoPs
Math teachers nonplussed
ok, that's a repeat....I'm running out of ideas......
Stotes stunned. Be-wilderbeests?
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gmsc Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:05:41pm |
re: #386 LGoPs
Math teachers nonplussed
ok, that's a repeat....I'm running out of ideas......
...Michelle 0bama demeaned?
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:05:48pm |
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Racer X Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:06:15pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:06:16pm |
re: #380 solomonpanting
Boy, that's really hard to say. Alfalma district in Lisbon, camping a couple days in a town I can't remember outside of Lucerne (reached only by cog train), ambling around Paris, cruise down the Rhine. I made friends with a German while in Norway. He invited myself and girlfriend at that time to visit at his parent's house in Solingen, where we were treated like pearls in the lap of luxury. He's been to the US several times to visit and we still call each other on birthdays.
That sounds like alot of fun..
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:06:27pm |
re: #346 realwest
Oh and btw, I'm surprised China doesn't cash in it's Treasuries before Obama gets the printing presses rolling and drops the value of the dollar out of sight!
What will happen is they will have to offer the treasuries at a higher and higher yield to get anybody interested in buying that stuff. That of course drops the market value of the treasury.
So Obama might want to tell Geithner to shut up.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:06:56pm |
re: #382 USBeast
I know. I probably would have posted the same thing.
Had a hamster a long time ago. She taught me not to take my eye off of her when she was in the ball. We had stairs. She lived, BTW.
It's tough seeing a child lose a pet. It also reminds us of when it happened to us and how bad we felt.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:07:14pm |
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:07:19pm |
re: #383 Guanxi88
They'll do that. We lost Shadow-Pig that way; all his friends were gone and he went right off his food. If you can, get another piggy for the survivor.
I'm considering that. DD is not in the mood to discuss it yet and these are/were her critters.
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:07:55pm |
re: #332 3 wood
Geithner throws rocks at China just when we need them to buy our debt
My take on Geithner is that he's just the lightweight you'd expect of a tax dodger in a three thousand dollar suit.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:08:17pm |
re: #398 USBeast
I'm considering that. DD is not in the mood to discuss it yet and these are/were her critters.
Well, obviously, the grief must run its course. Still, a friend for the pig is a must.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:08:55pm |
re: #386 LGoPs
Math teachers nonplussed
ok, that's a repeat....I'm running out of ideas......
Quarterbacks sacked
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:08:58pm |
re: #85 karmic_inquisitor
Read that earlier - implication was that Bush et al were dullards when it is actually about data security. I deal with banks that have the same restrictions (and never upgaded to Vista - another gripe in the article). They must therefore be in the dark ages.
Smug, ignorant pricks are now running your government.
Smug, ignorant, arrogant, and not a brain cell to spare on security. O really is Vista, flashy and looks good but leaks like a sieve and works somewhat.
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:09:10pm |
re: #399 itellu3times
Not that anyone in China is going to be buying long treasuries at 3% anyway.
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:09:55pm |
re: #357 MJ
The NYT got a big cash infusion yesterday which should keep it afloat for a few more months. Wonder how they'll cover this guy now that he owns 17% of the paper?MEXICO CITY (Dow Jones)--Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim's $250 million financial lifeline to the New York Times Co. (NYT) is an investment, a spokesman for Slim said Thursday.
"Look, we're considering the possibility of investing in anything that makes financial sense," Arturo Elias Ayub told press on the sidelines of an event when asked if Slim was looking to invest in other newspaper companies.
With print subscriptions declining and Internet news sources competing for readers and advertisers, the U.S. newspaper industry was in a precarious situation even before the credit crisis and subsequent economic downturn.
The New York Times is in a tough spot financially with its debt rated as "junk" by Standard & Poor's, a share price that has plunged 70% in the past year, and $1.1 billion in total debt and just $46 million in cash on its balance sheet at the end of September.
This guy did not get to be that rich by being stupid. I think there is a very good chance that he sees an opportunity to cash out some assets. I wonder how well funded their pension plan is?
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:10:41pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:11:23pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:11:46pm |
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:11:48pm |
re: #399 itellu3times
My take on Geithner is that he's just the lightweight you'd expect of a tax dodger in a three thousand dollar suit.
I had hopes for him but after the income tax fiasco, he's a real dummy. Anybody dumb enough to pull that over that kind of chump change I do not trust.
Small time chiseler, he is.
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USBeast Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:12:13pm |
re: #396 Hard Right
Had a hamster a long time ago. She taught me not to take my eye off of her when she was in the ball. We had stairs. She lived, BTW.
It's tough seeing a child lose a pet. It also reminds us of when it happened to us and how bad we felt.
I've survived three hamsters. One of my own (assaulted by a roommates cat), one of my children's (old age) and one from my DD's school that we had charge of over the summer (old age). I'm getting very tired of being the bearer of bad news concerning rodents.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:12:32pm |
re: #379 albusteve
probably didnt have a parking problem...
HA!
I heard very few stories, actually.
Great-Uncle Dick (quit laughing) had the best war stories:
"Where you in the Army, Uncle Dick?"
"Yep, but I never left the States. They gave me a bolt rifle and ran me up and down hills. Then they gave me an M-1 rifle and ran me up and down hills. Then they gave me a carbine. It made running up and down hills easier. Then they sent me home."
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Digital Display Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:12:44pm |
re: #371 realwest
I know you would! But gee thanks, I'm busy just then, dagnabit!
:)
Seriously, try to have some fun and remember they are cracking down on what's permissable in Amersterdamn!
I always have fun there..The people in the office are wonderful people..We have lots of fun are they are so gracious..And no to the drug scene....thats not an issue
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:14:39pm |
re: #393 HoosierHoops
That sounds like alot of fun..
It was living in the moment, but the visions remain forever. I bought the International Hearld Tribune a few times just see what was happening elsewhere. One article said "riot at funeral for Elvis.' I turned to my girlfriend and asked "Did you know Elvis died?"
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rawmuse Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:14:45pm |
Those comments are tame compared to what gets in SFGATE.com every day. Some of the vilest, anti-semitic stuff you will ever come across. And it doesn't really matter what the headline is, either.
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:14:51pm |
re: #392 Racer X
"When 3 wood talks, people listen".Seriously - thanks for your insight!
Thank you for the kind thoughts. That is very nice of you.
Just trying to keep people as informed as possible in these difficult times.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:15:17pm |
re: #411 OldLineTexan
HA!
I heard very few stories, actually.
Great-Uncle Dick (quit laughing) had the best war stories:
"Where you in the Army, Uncle Dick?"
"Yep, but I never left the States. They gave me a bolt rifle and ran me up and down hills. Then they gave me an M-1 rifle and ran me up and down hills. Then they gave me a carbine. It made running up and down hills easier. Then they sent me home."
I was extremely fortunate in that between my dad, his brother and his two cousins I heard alot of war stories...Marines, Army and Army Air Corps....alot overflowed to Korea...lotsa cool stuff
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:16:46pm |
re: #404 itellu3times
Not that anyone in China is going to be buying long treasuries at 3% anyway.
There is some interest (no pun intended) due to the safety factor. Once the market solidifies though, we will not be able to give the paper away.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:17:05pm |
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:17:12pm |
re: #414 rawmuse
Those comments are tame compared to what gets in SFGATE.com every day. Some of the vilest, anti-semitic stuff you will ever come across. And it doesn't really matter what the headline is, either.
Do some get their cue from Mark Morford?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:17:40pm |
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rawmuse Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:17:47pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:18:51pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:19:59pm |
re: #422 LGoPs
Two men walking a tit.....er....excuse me, I meant....abreast
Walking along, Tim and me
We came about these ladies three.
Them being three and us being two
I bucked one and Tim...
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:20:07pm |
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:20:27pm |
i almost feel sorry for the nyt.
how pathetic. to give voice to such an imbecile as gadafi.
he is an irrelevant freak.
wow, they are out of touch .
it happens like that. when no one w/ any real grounding is in control.
for so long.
sad.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:21:26pm |
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:21:29pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:21:46pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:22:17pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:22:36pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:23:01pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:23:23pm |
re: #416 albusteve
I was extremely fortunate in that between my dad, his brother and his two cousins I heard alot of war stories...Marines, Army and Army Air Corps....alot overflowed to Korea...lotsa cool stuff
Cool.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:24:46pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:25:52pm |
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Mardukhai Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:25:57pm |
Why doesn't the great leader make room for them in Libya? Call it Libertine.
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Hard Right Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:26:04pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:27:11pm |
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:30:14pm |
Status of the next stimulus plan:
Republicans upset as House panels move on stimulus
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives committees on Thursday backed a raft of tax cuts and spending programs as part of the $825 billion package to boost the ailing economy, despite Republican complaints that their proposals were not getting a fair hearing.
The White House pressed Congress to quickly pass the Democratic package "to give the American people some confidence going forward," and praised the Senate Finance Committee's vote backing President Barack Obama's choice for Treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner.
But Republicans have criticized the package, saying the $550 billion in government spending would add too much to the deficit and that greater emphasis should be on tax cuts than the $275 billion now planned. Tax cuts, they argue, would more quickly jolt the economy out of a yearlong recession.
Sounds like some of the Republicans have finally found a little bit of backbone. I hope they tell Pelosi to go jump in a lake.
Speaking of the she-witch:
"The president asked for action, swift and bold. That is what we are doing," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters, adding that the bill would be considered on the House floor next week. "The American people are in a desperate situation."
Way to inspire confidence there, Pelosi.
So what's inthe package?
With little changes, the House Ways and Means Committee passed along party lines a $304 billion piece of the package, including individual tax breaks, business tax incentives and help for unemployed families to keep their health insurance.
Translation: Pork and welfare labeled as tax cuts.
Republicans offered several provisions to cut some tax rates and extend other expiring tax breaks, but Democrats voted them down.
So much for bipartisanship and working across the aisle by the Democrats.
I hope the Republicans don't give them a single yes vote.
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:32:18pm |
re: #417 3 wood
There is some interest (no pun intended) due to the safety factor. Once the market solidifies though, we will not be able to give the paper away.
It boggles me that people are buying these 10-year treasuries at 2.3%. Rates are likely to SOAR under the Obamanation, and people will take HUGE losses on these "safe" instruments. I've seen this written up, but the scenario is virtuallly certain, IMHO. The only alternative scenario is long-term deflation, but with all the libtards screaming for huge deficits to intentionally "reignite" the economy, we are almost guaranteed the worst inflation in American history, sometime in the next couple of years. That's how I see it anyway.
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:34:07pm |
re: #409 3 wood
I had hopes for him but after the income tax fiasco, he's a real dummy. Anybody dumb enough to pull that over that kind of chump change I do not trust.
Small time chiseler, he is.
Seems light in the loafers to me, but hey, he knew Obama's momma.
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:37:21pm |
President Obama (I almost threw up as I wrote that) chose an new SEC Chair who missed catching the Madoff fiasco (as did a whole bunch of other folks):
Schapiro approved as new SEC chairman
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Veteran securities regulator Mary Schapiro was approved by the U.S. Senate on Thursday to head the Securities and Exchange Commission where she will face the challenge of reinvigorating the agency criticized for missing one of the biggest investment frauds in history.The lawmakers confirmed Schapiro as the 29th chairman of the SEC by a unanimous vote. Schapiro, who has spent more than two decades regulating financial markets, is now tasked with restoring investor confidence and policing Wall Street amid one of the worst financial crisis in decades.
At her confirmation hearing, the 53-year-old Schapiro promised to take the "handcuffs off" the SEC's enforcement division and go full force against anyone who violates investors' trust.
Schapiro, was chief executive of broker dealer watchdog Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, which has also come under fire for its role in financier's Bernard Madoff's alleged $50 billion fraud.
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3 wood Thu, Jan 22, 2009 5:41:33pm |
re: #441 itellu3times
It boggles me that people are buying these 10-year treasuries at 2.3%. Rates are likely to SOAR under the Obamanation, and people will take HUGE losses on these "safe" instruments. I've seen this written up, but the scenario is virtuallly certain, IMHO. The only alternative scenario is long-term deflation, but with all the libtards screaming for huge deficits to intentionally "reignite" the economy, we are almost guaranteed the worst inflation in American history, sometime in the next couple of years. That's how I see it anyway.
I know this sounds arrogant, and I don't mean to be, but in 30 years of doing investing I became convinced that the average investor has a time horizon of about 3 to 6 months. By that I mean that's about as far down the road as they look.
So right now, a lot of panicked investors fled to treasuries as a safe haven. And they are going to get scorched when the market turns and the rates jump.
Then you will read stories of how these investors are victims of their investment advisors who helped them shift into the treasuries.
So folks, if you have a lot of your nest egg in treasuries right now, make sure you come up with a good Plan B for when interest rates start going up.
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shiek al beif salami Thu, Jan 22, 2009 6:16:11pm |
re: #436 OldLineTexan
The cowboy quite shaving and grew DeBeered.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jan 22, 2009 8:41:50pm |
G-d Help Me - and I am NOT drinking Kool-Aid tonight, just some mild "brain bleach" and NOT much of that. With the exception of "Palestinian Right of Return" - Qaddafi has laid out the basis for a Mid-Eastern Switzerland recognizing the rights of both parties. In effect Oslo within one "Nation." It IS in certain ways a Perfect Solution.
Of course, he sees it through eyes in Libya - I SEE IT through MINE. Do NOT think he would appreciate an "resurgent" Italian group in Libya. That is the reality Israel faces. When and IF that stops, the Middle East would be like the "Midwest."
-S-
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kahall Thu, Jan 22, 2009 9:46:17pm |
[..] check out the comments
No Thanks....but I did for some reason.
This is really the only place I can stand to read comments at anymore.
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lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 22, 2009 10:00:11pm |
re: #76 MJ
What the New York Times left out of this piece which came from a talk delivered to Georgetown University, specifically, the Saudi funded
Contemporary Arab Studies Center:""If you want to preserve this group, the Jews as an ethnic group, Palestine is not really the right place. The Middle East is a sea of Arabs," he said. "Take them to Alaska or Honolulu or the Hawaiian islands or the Pacific islands and they can live peacefully in an isolated setting."'
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
What would be the use? If Israel were reestablished on Kodiak island in Alaska, word would soon rise from dar al Taqiyah that Kodiak island is in fact an ancient Islamic waqf, visited by some prophet on a winged steed in a dream and therefore holy, mark you, Holy, to Mr. Pibbuhs. The Russians would recall that Kodiak island was not included in the sale of Alaska. The French would suggest partitioning Kodiak island: 90% national park, 5% for Israel, and 5% for the oppressed Balti Muslims of Pakistan. The cause of the Balti would be a cover story on the New York Times. And so on.
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harrisonp Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:58pm |
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