Obvious Headline of the Day

World • Views: 2,024

The Associated Press helpfully informs us that the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at President Bush was protesting the war.

BAGHDAD – The Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at former President George W. Bush failed to apologize as his trial began Thursday, and instead appealed defiantly to the pride of his war-ravaged country.

In his first public appearance since he was taken into custody on Dec. 14, Muntadhar al-Zeidi said he did not intend to harm Bush or to embarrass Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

“What made me do it was the humiliation Iraq has been subjected to due to the U.S. occupation and the murder of innocent people,” al-Zeidi said. “I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible, apart from using weapons.”

Because nothing restores pride like throwing a shoe at the leader of the country that gave you a chance at democracy.

Jump to bottom

243 comments
1 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:26:23am

Jerk. Throw the shoes book at him!

2 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:26:50am
3 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:27:22am

Multiple thread dump, it is a divide and conquer plot by the Chief Lizard.

4 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:27:58am
war-ravaged country
the humiliation Iraq has been subjected to
the murder of innocent people

This yardbird's a shoe-in for a Nobel Peas Prize

5 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:28:01am

Because nothing restores pride like throwing a shoe at the leader of the country that gave you a chance at democracy.

I moon Muntadhar al-Zeidi in a show of support.
/

6 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:28:18am

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

That destroyed their shoes for sure.

7 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:28:51am

al-Zeidi must be a Persian shoe.

8 Crashnburn  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:28:53am

Pity Saddam wasn't still there. He could've tried that move with him - think he would've made it to the trial?

9 esch  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:29:05am

re: #6 Ojoe

That destroyed their shoes for sure.

Oh the agony of de-feet.

/couldn't resist

10 Kragar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:29:31am

Weasely little shit knows hot to cater to the international audience.

11 Kragar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:29:43am

how, not hot

12 formercorpsman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:29:44am

Yes, that pride of being thrown off tall buildings, having your female wedding guests raped, and Chemical Ali making unnanounced dinner arrangements at your place in Halabja.

13 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:29:46am
“What made me do it was the humiliation Iraq has been subjected to due to the U.S. occupation and the murder of innocent people,” al-Zeidi said. “I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible, apart from using weapons.”

I disagree, those were definitely Weapons of Bass Construction.

14 so.cal.swede  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:04am

who needs democracy when we can marry 9 year olds and bang camels?

15 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:11am
16 saberry0530  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:17am

Fuck! I must have missed that!

(Sorry! I'm home sick today and are just in a foul mood)

17 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:20am

re: #7 Honorary Yooper

al-Zeidi must be a Persian shoe.

Nope... just a heel.

18 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:40am

He'd never have tried throwing a shoe at Saddam.
Like a dog biting the hand that feeds him.

19 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:50am

Iraq before March '03.
Shoe throwers go feet first into industrial shredders.

Iraq after March '03.
Shoe throwers make public statements.

20 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:30:52am

OK, so throwing shoes is what he thinks will restore their pride? I think toppling Hussein and giving them back control of their country from Hussein is a much bigger restorer of pride. But, that's just my opinion.

21 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:31:23am

Under Saddam, he'd have gone through the plastic shredder, feet shoes first.

22 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:31:26am

What is it with these people and their pride? How many have died because of their "honor" and "pride"

23 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:31:28am

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, they may have fed people feet-first into wood chippers under Saddam, but at least their pride was intact.

Well, in a way, maybe it was. I think we westerners don't do a very good job of appreciating Arab cultural norms. Some of them would probably prefer to have half their family dragged off and wood-chipped than live in a country where security is being maintained by non-Arab foreigners.

And I think we err by assuming that most Arabs place any significant value in living in a democracy. I recall reading some polls of Arabs on the subject. It seemed like many of them were more interested in other things, like having more money to take care of their families, and living under Islamic law.

24 formercorpsman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:31:50am

re: #19 jcm

A million updings.

Our brothers and sisters spilled their blood for his his f'n pride.

25 Racer X  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:31:57am

Bush should have caught one and thrown it right back at this asshole.

26 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:32:14am

“I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible


A grown man throwing a shoe like a spoiled five year old restores your nations pride?

27 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:32:32am

re: #8 Crashnburn

Pity Saddam wasn't still there. He could've tried that move with him - think he would've made it to the trial?

That is exactly what should be done. The court should tell him that if he so yearns for the days when Saddam was in charge, they will use the punishment that your dear leader would have meted out. He'd shit his pants, cry for mercy and beg GWB for forgiveness right on the spot.

28 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:32:45am

re: #23 Last Mohican

Well, if they can start to associate wealth and the ability to make money and keep it with democracy, that's a start in the right direction.

29 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:32:47am
30 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:32:55am

al-Zeidi must have been one of those that had it good under Saddam. Tough shit for him.

31 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:33:07am

re: #25 Racer X

Bush should have caught one and thrown it right back at this asshole.

I would've while asking him where he wanted me to put the other shoe.

32 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:33:18am

re: #25 Racer X

Bush should have caught one and thrown it right back at this asshole.

Bet he would've connected, too.

33 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:33:32am

re: #26 bulwrk

“I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible

A grown man throwing a shoe like a spoiled five year old restores your nations pride?

Ask Roger Clemens?

34 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:33:37am

re: #29 buzzsawmonkey

It's the beginning of national heeling.

Its a soulful thing.

35 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:33:52am

The fact that this man is still alive to tell his tale of "national pride" should be a source of national pride.

36 crashnburn  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:33:52am

re: #25 Racer X

With the whole camera zooming into Bush's face like a Bruce Lee Kung Fu movie with Bush mouthing off-synch in a very deep voice "You will pay for your insolence!"

37 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:02am

re: #30 Ward Cleaver

al-Zeidi must have been one of those that had it good under Saddam. Tough shit for him.

Yeah, he must have been able to afford shoes?

38 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:06am

I wonder how many moonbats who thought it was great would like it if Obama had a shoe thrown at him? Of course then we would be into the muslim violence on another muslim.

39 Racer X  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:11am

re: #29 buzzsawmonkey

It's the beginning of national heeling.

I get the feeling this thread is about to get laced with puns.

40 obscured by clouds  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:20am
“I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible, apart from using weapons.”

The last Iraqi to "restore the pride of the Iraqis" did it with plastic shredders and firing squads, you ingrate a$$hole.

41 DeathtotheSwiss  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:22am

I thought he was just being a dick.

42 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:22am
43 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:51am
44 Desert Dog  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:53am

re: #29 buzzsawmonkey

It's the beginning of national heeling.

If the shoe fit

45 SlartyBartfast  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:04am

Yeah, Saddam Hussein was a real source of pride...too bad you can't have him back, eh, Muntadhar?

46 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:12am

re: #37 Nevergiveup

Yeah, he must have been able to afford shoes?

Or to cobbler together a few bucks for them.

47 Kragar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:15am

re: #25 Racer X

Bush should have caught one and thrown it right back at this asshole.

I believe it would have gone a little something like this...

Youtube Video
48 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:24am
49 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:39am

re: #26 bulwrk

“I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible


A grown man throwing a shoe like a spoiled five year old restores your nations pride?

Either that or blowing yourself up, killing as many innocent civilians as you can. Pretty fucked up place I'd say.

50 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:43am
51 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:49am

He may act Westernized but he is just a primitive toady at heart. He knows that if he insulted an arab ruler not only would he be dead but more importantly his family would be dead and his whole tribe would suffer. The threat level from the West is less and therefor no matter what he does not fear and he does not respect us.

52 Racer X  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:50am

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

I don't think I can get instep with this one. I'll just vamp until it's over.

Cat got your tongue?

53 rawmuse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:55am

AP is printing whatever in order to not report that the financial house of the nation is burning down.

54 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:35:57am

re: #40 obscured by clouds

The last Iraqi to "restore the pride of the Iraqis" did it with plastic shredders and firing squads, you ingrate a$$hole.

Don't forget the poison gas

55 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:36:05am

re: #29 buzzsawmonkey

It's the beginning of national heeling.

Big improvement from Saddam's day, when they had to toe the line.

56 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:36:12am

FOX says the UN water Czar? wants to get rid of plastic water bottles? The hell with Nuclear weapons, Ban the Bottle!

57 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:36:12am

In other words, he was merely saying "None Bush."

58 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:36:49am

re: #24 formercorpsman

A million updings.

Our brothers and sisters spilled their blood for his his f'n pride.

I see it as a sign of success. Kinda of like a two year old learning the word NO!
Independence is being realized, but a long way to go.

59 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:17am

re: #53 rawmuse

AP is printing whatever in order to not report that the financial house of the nation is burning down.

The fairy dust much like the jedi mind trick works well on the weak.

60 rightside  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:20am

A question for the Canadian lizards here. Is there a huge turnout to see the messiah? Are they scrambling to catch a glimpse of him? Perhaps to touch the hem of his garment?

61 Desert Dog  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:25am

So, let's see if I have this straight.....killing your daughter/wife/mother/sister restores "Honor" and tossing a shoe at the President of the United States restores "Pride".....I cannot wait to see what restores dignity....farting on the Pope?

62 Bloodnok  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:47am

War ravaged contry?

More like, War Improved? War Liberated?

63 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:48am

Need eyelet on that his statement is laced with self-aggrandizement.

64 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:52am

Rush on it! Of the 40,000 who pay half the taxes in NYC. If 20,000 leave that city dies.

65 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:37:58am

re: #56 Nevergiveup

FOX says the UN water Czar? wants to get rid of plastic water bottles? The hell with Nuclear weapons, Ban the Bottle!

Yeah, glass bottles are sooooooo easy to transport. Moron.

66 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:38:16am

re: #63 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Need eyelet on that his statement is laced with self-aggrandizement.

DAMMIT - PIMF - should have put a question mark at the end!

67 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:38:25am

re: #56 Nevergiveup

FOX says the UN water Czar? wants to get rid of plastic water bottles? The hell with Nuclear weapons, Ban the Bottle!

Ban Evian first... let's see how well that goes over with the French.

68 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:38:26am

re: #64 lifeofthemind

Rush on it! Of the 40,000 who pay half the taxes in NYC. If 20,000 leave that city dies.

Escape From New York!

69 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:39:09am

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Youtube Video
70 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:39:16am

Remember Kruschev's shoe?

71 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:39:40am

re: #64 lifeofthemind

Rush on it! Of the 40,000 who pay half the taxes in NYC. If 20,000 leave that city dies.

Apparently the lefties thought they would just stay put and take the raping without protest.

72 summergurl  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:39:52am

It's a wonderful thing that we are all not cowards and can discuss shoes.

73 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:39:53am

re: #70 MandyManners

Remember Kruschev's shoe?

That was a bang-up job he did!

74 SlartyBartfast  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:40:00am

re: #70 MandyManners

Remember Kruschev's shoe?

If that happened today, Barry would need his diaper changed...

75 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:40:03am

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Escape From New York!

Swear to God Snake, I thought you were dead...

76 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:40:05am

al-Zeidi is the sole of the nation.

77 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:40:48am

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That was a bang-up job he did!

He was right. We buried ourselves in '08.

78 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:40:54am

Hundreds of Israelis who arrived at the Azrieli towers shopping center in Tel Aviv on Thursday really believed for a brief moment that money could potentially fall from the sky.

At around 4 P.M., hundreds began gathering outside the shopping center while a representative of a private company threw pieces of paper that looked like currency from the roof of one of the three Azrieli towers.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I wonder of any of our Israeli Lizards were there?

79 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:40:55am

re: #74 SlartyBartfast

If that happened today, Barry would need his diaper changed...

If Kruschev sneezed Barry would need his diaper changed.

80 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:05am

re: #76 Ward Cleaver

al-Zeidi is the ASsole of the nation.

81 2by2  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:05am

Excellent ratio: shoe thrown, pride restored.
If anything else would be just as easy!
/

82 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:13am

re: #28 lawhawk

Well, if they can start to associate wealth and the ability to make money and keep it with democracy, that's a start in the right direction.

But I don't think they do make that association. I admit that I'm no expert on Arab culture. But my sense is that most Arabs living outside of the West view democracy as a concept that in and of itself has no particular positive or negative value. But the word "democracy" gets tossed around a lot by the infidel Jew-lovers, so, basically, it pisses them off, and they don't want any part of it.

83 rightside  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:18am

re: #76 Ward Cleaver


...and a shoe-in

84 kynna  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:24am

This guy obviously was enjoying the fruits of Saddam's Haven of Happiness before the icky Americans came and gave everyone a chance to enjoy fruit.

He just wants his unicorn. Too bad, fella! We got all the unicorns right here! //

*head throbs*

85 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:44am

Our unprofessional pro-Democrat press sure is obsessed with this story.

86 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:46am

We already knew this. Must be a slow day for news at AP.

87 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:41:57am

re: #34 bulwrk

Its a soulful thing.

Laced with honor.

88 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:42:10am

I was reading an article where Starbucks and Walmart are making plans to expand into Baghdad.

Nothing says peace and freedom like overpriced coffee, and leaded crap from China.

89 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:42:20am

re: #77 jcm

He was right. We buried ourselves in '08.

Technically ... THEY didn't bury us.
/as if it really matters

... How's the project doing?

90 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:42:44am

al-Zeidi will find that he's not instep with history.

91 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:42:47am

re: #84 kynna

This guy obviously was enjoying the fruits of Saddam's Haven of Happiness before the icky Americans came and gave everyone a chance to enjoy fruit.

He just wants his unicorn. Too bad, fella! We got all the unicorns right here! //

*head throbs*

That's the answer to our economic problems, start exporting unicorns.//

92 summergurl  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:43:09am

re: #86 Naso Tang

We already knew this. Must be a slow day for news at AP.


Yesterday our paper ran a blurb about Mickey Rourke's chihuahua dying - now THAT is a slow news day.

93 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:43:20am

re: #88 acwgusa

I was reading an article where Starbucks and Walmart are making plans to expand into Baghdad.

Nothing says peace and freedom like overpriced coffee, and leaded crap from China.

But isn't the CEO of Starbucks a Jew? They ain't gonna like that?

94 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:43:34am

re: #90 Ward Cleaver

al-Zeidi will find that he's not instep with history.

Arch you witty this morning!

95 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:43:45am

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Technically ... THEY didn't bury us.
/as if it really matters

... How's the project doing?

Dug out the root cause.... fix in the works and ready tomorrow morning.

96 redseeped  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:43:53am

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, they may have fed people feet-first into wood chippers under Saddam, but at least their pride was intact.

But their logic is as follows:

When Sunnis kill a dozen Shites for no reason and the Shites retaliate by murdering another dozen unsuspecting Sunnis you end up with two dozen innocent Iraqis killed by Americans.

97 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:02am

Remember the "Persian shoe" insult?

98 Viking6  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:04am

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Plenty of space and homes available here in Sin City

99 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:26am

re: #67 lawhawk

Ban Evian first... let's see how well that goes over with the French.

Throw the Vichy water in the trash.
/Capt. Renault

100 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:40am

re: #97 MandyManners

Remember the "Persian shoe" insult?

Wasn't Persian Shoe a nic?

101 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:41am

re: #95 jcm

Dug out the root cause.... fix in the works and ready tomorrow morning.

I'll bet you're glad!
(... not to mention Management.)

102 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:44am

re: #92 summergurl

Yesterday our paper ran a blurb about Mickey Rourke's chihuahua dying - now THAT is a slow news day.


Anything to distract us from DC and the slow death of our country under 0bama.

103 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:46am

re: #93 Nevergiveup

But isn't the CEO of Starbucks a Jew? They ain't gonna like that?

Once they're addicted to their $5 tall Venti, they won't care. Anything to keep the almighty bean!

104 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:44:56am
“What made me do it was the humiliation Iraq has been subjected to due to the U.S. occupation and the murder of innocent people,” al-Zeidi said. “I wanted to restore the pride of the Iraqis in any way possible, apart from using weapons.”

The shoe-tosser worked for a pro-Iranian newspaper and supported Mookie Sadr. Sadr's militia murdered thousands of innocent Iraqis.

105 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:45:47am

re: #104 Kenneth

The shoe-tosser worked for a pro-Iranian newspaper and supported Mookie Sadr. Sadr's militia murdered thousands of innocent Iraqis.

Wow, really? No wonder he's so beloved by the mainstream media.

/

106 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:08am

I was over reading the Mudville Gazette and what should appear to my wondering eyes?

The United States' presence in Pakistan and Afghanistan is only furthering the spread of terrorism and President Obama could be charged with war crimes, former Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-S.C.) wrote Wednesday.
"Why are we killing GIs to spread terrorism?" Hollings, a longtime (though now-retired) lawmaker asked in a blog post for the Huffington Post. "The best way to stabilize is to get out. It became a matter of conscience for me years ago."

Someone once sang, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

107 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:14am

I wonder how the AP would spin it if someone threw a shoe at their precious Obama?

108 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:19am

re: #88 acwgusa

I was reading an article where Starbucks and Walmart are making plans to expand into Baghdad.

Nothing says peace and freedom like overpriced coffee, and leaded crap from China.

My wife and kids were in Dollar General the other day (the kids wanted a cheap toy), and the employees were packing up virtually all the toys in the store. Guess it had to do with the new regulations regarding lead in toys. The one that's nuked the youth motorcycle and ATV market (sixth and seventh items).

109 VegasRick  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:20am

re: #105 thedopefishlives

Wow, really? No wonder he's so beloved by the mainstream media.

/

Why the sarc tag?

110 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:23am

Iraqi Ballot 2002

Iraqi ballot now

Fuck him.

111 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:27am

re: #99 Kosh's Shadow

Throw the Vichy water in the trash.
/Capt. Renault

... but he'll (still) be in tomorrow with a breath-taking blonde ...

112 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:46:48am

re: #64 lifeofthemind

Rush on it! Of the 40,000 who pay half the taxes in NYC. If 20,000 leave that city dies.

hearing this is making me mad. 40,000 of us are supporting a city of 8 million?
who knew? all of a sudden i feel tired. it won't take much at this point for me to leave.

113 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:47:15am

re: #107 FrogMarch

I wonder how the AP would spin it if someone threw a shoe at their precious Obama?

First and foremost it would be racially motivated.

114 ParanoidPyro  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:47:19am

Well thank God they told me, because I would never have been able to figure this out on my own!

Feckin Idjits.

115 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:47:33am

re: #106 razorbacker

I was over reading the Mudville Gazette and what should appear to my wondering eyes?

Someone once sang, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Hollings matter of conscience = senility.

116 esch  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:48:09am

re: #112 nyc redneck

hearing this is making me mad. 40,000 of us are supporting a city of 8 million?
who knew? all of a sudden i feel tired. it won't take much at this point for me to leave.

It's your patriotic duty to stay and support all the striving artists and community organizers.

/need I?

117 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:48:23am

re: #82 Last Mohican

And if I may rant a little more... I think that a cornerstone of GWB's policy for the Middle East was a sort of domino theory of democracy. If you forcibly install a democratic government in Iraq, a country that was formerly ruled by a brutal dictator, then suddenly the people there will see the beauty of Western ways, love America, accept Israel, and stop wanting to blow everyone up. The other Arabs will be jealous of their neighbors living in a democracy, and they'll demand democracy too. And then the whole region will just pacify itself and become friendly.

I think that was an utterly flawed idea, for many reasons. The most important is that, if the people of most Arab countries were allowed to elect a leader today, they'd elect the most hateful, violent jihadist available, and then voluntarily relinquish their right to vote ever again.

118 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:48:32am

re: #70 MandyManners

Remember Kruschev's shoe?

Yes. Said "We will bury you" as he pounded the podium with it at the UN, when he thought JFK was a weak leader.

119 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:48:59am

re: #112 nyc redneck

hearing this is making me mad. 40,000 of us are supporting a city of 8 million?
who knew? all of a sudden i feel tired. it won't take much at this point for me to leave.

Honest you are probably not in the top half. He means the guys who got the Wall Street bonuses that BHO is so offended by.

120 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:49:14am

re: #107 FrogMarch

I wonder how the AP would spin it if someone threw a shoe at their precious Obama?

They would say he was bitterly clinging to his religion and otherwise representative of those evil Republicans who're out to thwart Obama's plan to bring HOPE! and CHANGE! to the world.

/barf

121 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:50:06am

re: #118 abolitionist

Yes. Said "We will bury you" as he pounded the podium with it at the UN, when he thought JFK was a weak leader.


Our current leader would make Sarkozy look tougher than Rambo.

122 Pyrocles  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:50:08am

"Logic" is a hated and foreign Western concep - forcibly hoisted upon them by imperialistic infidel invaders.

re: #96 redseeped

But their logic is as follows:

When Sunnis kill a dozen Shites for no reason and the Shites retaliate by murdering another dozen unsuspecting Sunnis you end up with two dozen innocent Iraqis killed by Americans.

123 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:51:09am
124 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:51:27am

it is so annoying that this shoe thrower is a minor celebrity in iraq.
protesting the war that allows him to be such a disrespectful pos and NOT get
his head chopped immediately and tossed in a dusty street by saddam.
he sounds like a leftist.
thankless, self-promoting and stupid.

125 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:52:59am

re: #107 FrogMarch

I wonder how the AP would spin it if someone threw a shoe at their precious Obama?

In America throwing shoes at honest and hard working minorities is a traditional example of racist redneck patriarchal zio-christianist populist culture.
Completely different for the brave popular traditional sign of arab resistance.

126 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:53:06am

Who throws a show? Honestly, al-Zeidi fights like a woman.

/Powers

127 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:53:34am

re: #112 nyc redneck

hearing this is making me mad. 40,000 of us are supporting a city of 8 million?
who knew? all of a sudden i feel tired. it won't take much at this point for me to leave.

Just register D, submit an application for employment in the Obama administration, voila tax obligation no longer exists.

128 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:53:41am

re: #93 Nevergiveup

But isn't the CEO of Starbucks a Jew? They ain't gonna like that?

And for that reason, I have seen Muslims on TV urging other Muslims to boycott Starbucks. They want people to go to Caribou Coffee instead, whose majority owner, First Islamic Investment Bank, apparently requires the stores to operate according to sharia principles, and has had some ties to Islamic terrorists.

Discussion on snopes.com

129 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:53:45am

re: #107 FrogMarch

I wonder how the AP would spin it if someone threw a shoe at their precious Obama?


They might start liking capital punishment

130 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:53:45am

Several people are emailing me links to a story about a former FBI agent who's in the news for issuing warnings about a network of subversive Islamic agents implementing sharia law in the United States.

It took one Google search to find out that John Guandolo is associated with the wacko extremist religious group Christian Action Network.

Credibility: zero.

131 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:14am

re: #119 lifeofthemind

Honest you are probably not in the top half. He means the guys who got the Wall Street bonuses that BHO is so offended by.

ok, i feel a little better. i was wondering at the low over all number. LOL

132 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:24am

re: #126 Noam Sayin'

Who throws a show? Honestly, al-Zeidi fights like a woman.

/Powers

My wife would NEVER throw her shoes. Mine maybe, but not hers.

133 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:33am

Maybe he should eat those shoes... with a little A-1 if they feel nice...

What hypocrisy! We work and die to give him the freedom of speech he so addimently exercises by insulting our President. Whatever they do to this dirtball will not be enough.

134 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:34am

re: #126 Noam Sayin'

Who throws a show? Honestly, al-Zeidi fights like a woman.

/Powers

He couldn't reach W, to pull his hair or scratch his eyes.

135 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:49am

re: #130 Charles

Thanks.

136 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:52am

re: #124 nyc redneck

He also has a lot of enemies in Iraq. More people showed up for a march in Baghdad to protest against him than in support of him. Of course, the US media didn't show that.

137 horse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:54:55am

re: #64 lifeofthemind

Rush on it! Of the 40,000 who pay half the taxes in NYC. If 20,000 leave that city dies.

Hmmm, "The 40,000", it would make a great movie. "Taxation on so few; this is madness!" "This is Manhattan!"

138 traderjoe9  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:01am

Restoring exactly what pride?

139 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:15am

Sorry to go OT, but I am at a friends house trying to get his computers USB ports working and need to get into the BIOS. Anybody know how to get into the BIOS of an Emachine?

140 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:24am

My brother had a sixth grade teacher who threw shoes. Wonder what she was protesting?

141 kynna  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:25am

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

I think their heads might explode if it was a Muslim. They are very pro 2 things: Islam > the West and Obama.

I think they would probably paint the guy as a pro-Bush 'bad' Muslim and use the opportunity to excoriate the US for doing anything more than throwing money at the ME.

*barfs* (we'll going to need a bigger bucket)

142 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:35am

THE OLD MOTOR

The marriage of an 80-year-old man and a 20-year-old woman was the talk of the town.
After being married a year, the couple went to the hospital for the birth of their first child. The attending nurse came out of the delivery room to congratulate the old gentleman and said, "This is amazing. How do you do it at your age?" The old man grinned and said, "You got to keep the old motor running."

The following year, the couple returned to the hospital for the birth of their second child. The same nurse was attending the delivery and again went out to congratulate the old gentleman. She said, "Sir, you are something else. How do you manage it?" The old man grinned and said, "You gotta keep the old motor running."

A year later, the couple returned to the hospital for the birth of their third child. The same nurse was there for this birth also and after the delivery, she once again approached the old ge ntleman , smiled, and said, "Well, you surely are something else! How do you do it?" The old man replied, "It's like I've told you before, you got to keep the old motor running."

The nurse, still smiling, patted him on the back and said: "Well, I guess it's time to change the oil. This one's black."

143 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:44am

re: #130 Charles

Several people are emailing me links to a story about a former FBI agent who's in the news for issuing warnings about a network of subversive Islamic agents implementing sharia law in the United States.

It took one Google search to find out that John Guandolo is associated with the wacko extremist religious group Christian Action Network.

Credibility: zero.

So, IOW, this will be front page material at Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugged, and a story on Hannity's show.

144 KenJen  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:55:54am

re: #126 Noam Sayin'

Read it in my best British accent. Cracking up!

145 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:56:19am

re: #130 Charles

It might be worthwhile to put that on the front page. I watched the Hannity segment on that story and it's pretty convincing. Without knowing about the source of the information a lot of people are going to fall for it.

146 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:56:41am

The Persian shoe insult was hurled during a debate between two Iraqis. I don't recall if MEMRI had the tape or not but, Charles did a thread about it. It's been a while.

147 Sancho_Pansa  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:57:12am

OT: Anyone seen this?
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

148 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:57:22am

re: #145 Killgore Trout

It might be worthwhile to put that on the front page. I watched the Hannity segment on that story and it's pretty convincing. Without knowing about the source of the information a lot of people are going to fall for it.

Agree ... and "reported"

149 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:57:29am

re: #143 Ward Cleaver

So, IOW, this will be front page material at Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugged...

Already there.

150 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:57:56am

re: #138 traderjoe9

Restoring exactly what pride?

Plumbing in 14th century Saragossa. It always gets back to that.

151 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:09am

re: #138 traderjoe9

Restoring exactly what pride?

Sole Pride!

152 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:16am

re: #149 Charles

Already there.

Wow!

/gee, i've got a bridge for sale...

153 redseeped  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:24am

re: #122 Pyrocles

...and that is why we should stay away from "Nation Building" and stick with commerce, some sports exchanges if desired and a good stiff kick in the ass when we are threatened. Bush's post war fantasy was a disaster.

154 Lively  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:31am

re: #147 Sancho_Pansa

OT: Anyone seen this?
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]


I had never seen/or heard of the guy before today. But now....he's famous.

/up on Drudge with siren

155 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:46am

re: #130 Charles

Several people are emailing me links to a story about a former FBI agent who's in the news for issuing warnings about a network of subversive Islamic agents implementing sharia law in the United States.

It took one Google search to find out that John Guandolo is associated with the wacko extremist religious group Christian Action Network.

Credibility: zero.

Oops.

156 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:51am

re: #139 Bubblehead II
My computer did the same thing
Use the windows roll back
mine is a three year old sony

157 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:58:58am

re: #145 Killgore Trout

It might be worthwhile to put that on the front page. I watched the Hannity segment on that story and it's pretty convincing. Without knowing about the source of the information a lot of people are going to fall for it.

I can't watch that Hannity show any more. I start to regurgitate. Was this on last night?

158 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:00:14am

re: #139 Bubblehead II

Sorry to go OT, but I am at a friends house trying to get his computers USB ports working and need to get into the BIOS. Anybody know how to get into the BIOS of an Emachine?

Tried Esc, F1, and F2? Also, the Del key works on some systems.

159 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:00:51am

re: #157 Charles

I can't watch that Hannity show any more. I start to regurgitate. Was this on last night?

He's completely out of touch. Can't the guy do his own research?

160 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:01:06am

re: #137 horse

Hmmm, "The 40,000", it would make a great movie. "Taxation on so few; this is madness!" "This is Manhattan!"

Remember this is NY. The worst thing you can call someone is a tourist and the infallible mark of a rube is that they pay RETAIL. Everybody expects to get a special deal. Unfortunately they forgot that if everyone is off the books then no one is on the books and there is no longer any compelling reason to keep a business here. These 20,000 can take their laptops and move.

161 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:01:26am

re: #130 Charles

Several people are emailing me links to a story about a former FBI agent who's in the news for issuing warnings about a network of subversive Islamic agents implementing sharia law in the United States.

It took one Google search to find out that John Guandolo is associated with the wacko extremist religious group Christian Action Network.

Credibility: zero.

Can you please remove the spinoff that I posted?

162 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:01:29am

re: #159 Ward Cleaver

He's completely out of touch. Can't the guy do his own research?

Maybe he thinks that the CAN is a legitimate resource.

163 ThinkRight  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:01:36am

re: #157 Charles

I can't watch that Hannity show any more. I start to regurgitate. Was this on last night?


Same thing happens to me when Obama or Pelosi find a camera
/sorry to but in

164 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:02:00am

re: #107 FrogMarch

I wonder how the AP would spin it if someone threw a shoe at their precious Obama?

Deranged right winger driven to vicious assault by listening to talk radio.It is also believed that since the shoe was a loafer race my be involved. Loafer is common racial slur directed at African Americans.

165 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:02:04am

re: #156 ThinkRight

re: #158 Ward Cleaver


Thanks I will try the rollback if I can't get into BIOS

166 realwest  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:03:02am

re: #117 Last Mohican
Well I have to say that I sorta disagree with you. I think GWB was working off the old Soviet Eastern Bock idea: What brought down the USSR, other than Ronald Reagan's willingness to totally outspend them militarily, was that East Germans saw what a good life West Germans had, and the same with other Eastern Block countries. I remember very clearly their desire for Western material stuff (jeans, Rock and Roll, the freedom of speaking your mind and the like) and remember all too clearly the crude and brutish way the USSR responded to "revolutions" in Hungary and in other places. I think GWB believed that if we set up a functioning democracy in Iraq and if the Iraqi's started to live a better life, that that would prove to be just as infectious in say Syria and Iran and would nudge, nudge and PUSH them into democracies as well. And if they wound up electing Islamists - and therefore screwed the people out of the material things, that the people would at least have a chance to vote the bums out. It may have been flawed thinking on his part, I think only time (if we have it) will tell.
I also didn't want us to invade Iraq. I wanted us to invade Iran instead. Iraq certainly was not going to go to the aid of the Iranians, nor were the Saudi's or the Egyptians or the Jordanians and Syria - well, we coulda taken care of Syria in a matter of days.
But sitting down with these Barbarians and talking to them was not considered to be a viable option to Bush and I agree with that.

167 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:03:06am

Hillbilly Mirror


After living in the remote wilderness of Kentucky all his life, an old hillbilly decided it was time to visit the big city. In one of the stores he picks up a mirror and looks in it. Not ever having seen one before, he remarked at the image staring back at him, 'How about that! Here's a picture of my daddy.' He bought the mirror thinking it was a picture of his daddy, but on the way home he remembered his wife didn't like his father. So he hung it in the barn, and every morning before leaving for the fields, he would go there and look at it. His wife began to get suspicious of these many trips to the barn. One day after her husband left, she searched the barn and found the mirror. As she looked into the glass, she fumed, 'So that's the ugly bitch he's runnin' around with.'

168 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:03:20am

OT: an update on Sam the koala from the Melbourne Herald Sun

169 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:03:26am

re: #19 jcm

Iraq before March '03.
Shoe throwers go feet first into industrial shredders.

Iraq after March '03.
Shoe throwers make public statements.

jcm -

In a mind ruled by honor/shame the comparison is irrelevant. For the rest of us - not so much.

-S-

170 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:03:36am

re: #138 traderjoe9

Restoring exactly what pride?

Their pride of supremacy over the infidels, what else.

/spits

I'm out. I've got to get going. BBL

171 redseeped  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:03:41am

re: #157 Charles

I can't watch that Hannity show any more. I start to regurgitate. Was this on last night?

If this was fashion, Hannity would be declared the new Olberman.

172 soxfan4life  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:04:06am

re: #164 bulwrk

Deranged right winger driven to vicious assault by listening to talk radio.It is also believed that since the shoe was a loafer race my be involved. Loafer is common racial slur directed at African Americans.

Don't forget the part where the investigation found child porn on his computer.

173 rightside  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:04:11am

So much for Hope and Change

174 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:04:20am

re: #154 Lively

That guy better be looking over his shoulder for the next four years or so.

175 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:04:57am

re: #139 Bubblehead II

Sorry to go OT, but I am at a friends house trying to get his computers USB ports working and need to get into the BIOS. Anybody know how to get into the BIOS of an Emachine?

Emachine bios

176 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:05:19am

re: #145 Killgore Trout

It might be worthwhile to put that on the front page. I watched the Hannity segment on that story and it's pretty convincing. Without knowing about the source of the information a lot of people are going to fall for it.

Even without the source, the first thing I asked myself was; How do they go about instituting Sharia Law?

177 Dave the.....  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:05:26am

Mpls Congressman Keith Ellison goes to Gaza to see the horrible destruction that the Zionists did.

[Link: www.startribune.com...]

On the surface, there is nothing too over-the-top here, except it is another tour of "us poor Palestinians, we were just minding our own business when the evil Israeli's started attacking our daycare centers".

178 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:05:47am

PHONE REPAIR

A Kansas farm wife called the local phone company to report her telephone failed to ring when her friends called - and that on the few occasions, when it did ring, her dog always moaned right before the phone rang.

The telephone repairman proceeded to the scene, curious to see this psychic dog or senile lady. He climbed a telephone pole, hooked in his test set, and dialed the subscriber's house.

The phone didn't ring right away, but then the dog moaned and the telephone began to ring.

Climbing down from the pole, the telephone repairman found:

1. The dog was tied to the telephone system's ground wire with a steel chain and collar.

2. The wire connection to the ground rod was loose.

3. The dog was receiving 90 volts of signaling current when the number was called.

4. After a couple of jolts, the dog would start moaning and then urinate.

5. The wet ground would complete the circuit, thus causing the phone to ring.

Which demonstrates that some problems CAN be fixed by pissing and moaning.


Thought you'd like to know

179 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:06:46am

re: #168 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OT: an update on Sam the koala from the Melbourne Herald Sun

Aaahhhh!

Thats truly wonderful.
Thanks for the link!

180 Rancher  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:07:07am

Baathist bastard. Did journalism even exist under Saddam?

181 formercorpsman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:07:44am

re: #58 jcm

Yes, I do think one day it will come to fruition.

182 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:08:16am

re: #180 Rancher

Yes. It was called Prada.

Pa rum pum.

183 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:08:42am
184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:08:49am

re: #179 yma o hyd

Aaahhhh!

Thats truly wonderful.
Thanks for the link!

There's a recent video, down and on the right

185 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:08:55am

re: #157 Charles

It was a few days ago. I think there's video on liveleak somewhere.

186 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:08:59am

re: #169 Dr. Shalit

jcm -

In a mind ruled by honor/shame the comparison is irrelevant. For the rest of us - not so much.

-S-

Very, true. "Face" is something we just don't understand in the west.

187 redseeped  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:09:19am

re: #182 ilzito guacamolito

Yes. It was called Prada.

Pa rum pum.

Pravda?...

188 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:09:25am

> A woman found out her dog could hardly hear so she took it to the

> veterinarian. He found that the problem was hair in its ears. He

> cleaned both ears and the dog could hear fine.

>

> The vet then proceeded to tell the lady that if she wanted to keep

> this from recurring she should go to the store and get some "Nair"

> hair remover and rub it in the dog's ears once a month.

>

> The woman goes to the drug store and gets some "Nair" hair remover. At

> the register the druggist tells her, "If you're going to use this

> under your arms don't use deodorant for a few days."

>

> The woman says: "I'm not using it under my arms."

>

> The druggist says: "If you're using it on your legs don't shave for a

> couple of days."

>

> The woman says: "I'm not using it on my legs either; if you must know,

> I'm using it on my Schnauzer."

>

> The druggist says: "Stay off your bicycle for a week."

189 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:09:39am

re: #187 redseeped

Yup.

190 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:10:00am

re: #166 realwest

Well I have to say that I sorta disagree with you. I think GWB was working off the old Soviet Eastern Bock idea: What brought down the USSR, other than Ronald Reagan's willingness to totally outspend them militarily, was that East Germans saw what a good life West Germans had, and the same with other Eastern Block countries. I remember very clearly their desire for Western material stuff (jeans, Rock and Roll, the freedom of speaking your mind and the like) and remember all too clearly the crude and brutish way the USSR responded to "revolutions" in Hungary and in other places. I think GWB believed that if we set up a functioning democracy in Iraq and if the Iraqi's started to live a better life, that that would prove to be just as infectious in say Syria and Iran and would nudge, nudge and PUSH them into democracies as well. And if they wound up electing Islamists - and therefore screwed the people out of the material things, that the people would at least have a chance to vote the bums out. It may have been flawed thinking on his part, I think only time (if we have it) will tell.
I also didn't want us to invade Iraq. I wanted us to invade Iran instead. Iraq certainly was not going to go to the aid of the Iranians, nor were the Saudi's or the Egyptians or the Jordanians and Syria - well, we coulda taken care of Syria in a matter of days.
But sitting down with these Barbarians and talking to them was not considered to be a viable option to Bush and I agree with that.

My difference from the Bush plan was that I would have moved the US into Lebanon in 2001, into Syria in 2002, into Iraq in 2003 and into Iran in 2004. Going for the strategic middle was bold but rolling up the flank would have helped. Of course I would have used real Declarations of War, tripled the size of the armed forces and used the opportunity to slash half of the civilian government.

191 traderjoe9  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:10:17am

re: #187 redseeped

Pravda?...

No. That's Russia.

192 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:10:22am

re: #177 Dave the.....

Mpls Congressman Keith Ellison goes to Gaza to see the horrible destruction that the Zionists did.

[Link: www.startribune.com...]

On the surface, there is nothing too over-the-top here, except it is another tour of "us poor Palestinians, we were just minding our own business when the evil Israeli's started attacking our daycare centers".

Yeah, he goes to Gaza to hand out food aid, ignores what those same Gazans were busy doing to Israel - firing thousands of kassams.

193 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:11:16am

re: #191 traderjoe9

Play on words -
Pravda news service
Prada designer shoes

never mind...

194 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:11:24am

re: #187 redseeped

Pravda?...

It's a shoe joke.

195 redstateredneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:11:33am

re: #187 redseeped

Pravda?...


I was gonna comment on their fabulous shoes.

/

196 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:11:53am

re: #176 jcm

Even without the source, the first thing I asked myself was; How do they go about instituting Sharia Law?

i'm curious to know what kind of shift to sharia "family" law is going on in moslem enclaves in this country. like detroit and minneapolis (i think that's where the somalis are). it would most likely start in the home. w/ forced marriages, polygamy, restricting women generally.
is anyone studying this? ?

197 Desert Dog  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:11:56am

All of those inked stained fingers over there look a lot better than the blood stained ones Saddam preferred. We poured billions of dollars and the blood, sweat and tears of the American military to give your pathetic ass some freedom. Freedom you could not get on your own....you are welcome, Muntadhar.

If I ever see you, I will not toss my shoe at you, I will offer you a nice tasty American Knuckle Sandwich.

198 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:12:17am
199 yma o hyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:12:28am

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

There's a recent video, down and on the right

Its totally sweet - and note well, that fireman said he'd also have rescued a snake - or a LIZARD!

200 MikeAlv77  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:12:40am

re: #118 abolitionist

Um... JFK was a weak leader....

201 traderjoe9  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:12:48am

re: #193 ilzito guacamolito

Play on words -
Pravda news service
Prada designer shoes

never mind...

Ahhhh....I got it!

202 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:12:51am

re: #196 nyc redneck

i'm curious to know what kind of shift to sharia "family" law is going on in moslem enclaves in this country. like detroit and minneapolis (i think that's where the somalis are). it would most likely start in the home. w/ forced marriages, polygamy, restricting women generally. is anyone studying this? ?

That would be racist to study it.
/s

204 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:13:11am

re: #157 Charles

Ah I was confusing it with the Jihad camp story (also on the front page at Spencer's blog today). Video here.. It's tough to keep up with these bogus stories, I got them confused. My bad.

205 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:13:18am
206 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:13:55am

re: #203 Naso Tang

The European Court of Human Rights handed Qatada - once described as "Osama bin Laden's right hand man in Europe" - £2,500 and similar sums to eight other men.

What the F* is this court of human rights anyway?

These people will end up getting us all killed

207 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:14:13am

re: #196 nyc redneck

i'm curious to know what kind of shift to sharia "family" law is going on in moslem enclaves in this country. like detroit and minneapolis (i think that's where the somalis are). it would most likely start in the home. w/ forced marriages, polygamy, restricting women generally.
is anyone studying this? ?

It would / could be restricted to local communities. The story sounds like "agents" are working in the legal system to sneak Sharia onto the books.

The first is possible, even probable to some extent in some communities. The second is not likely.

208 redseeped  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:14:22am

re: #194 Honorary Yooper

It's a shoe joke.

And they come in two gorgeous styles: with and without shoe laces.

209 NYCHardhat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:14:55am

Reminds me of the child who yells at his mother.

210 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:14:55am

Seems like many people make light of this shoe-throwing incident, and fail to recognize it for the serious assault it was.

If either of those shoes had connected, it would have raised a welt.

211 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:15:18am

re: #180 Rancher

Baathist bastard. Did journalism even exist under Saddam?

The shoe tosser wasn't a Baathist, he's a pro-Mookie Sadr Shia.

212 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:15:30am

20:13 Mitchell: Hillary Clinton to attend March 2 Gaza Donors Conference in Cairo (Haaretz)

Hilliary is getting her marching orders from George Mitchell now?

213 capitalist piglet  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:15:38am

So there will be a Chicago Tea Party in July? Count me in.

214 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:15:41am

re: #203 Naso Tang

We are in some serious trouble.

215 Nevergiveup  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:16:22am

19:46 UN launches talks to expand Security Council (Reuters)

I guess they want to add Israel?
/ must I?

216 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:16:44am

OT - Yep, let the healing begin...

"The United States is "a nation of cowards" when it comes to race relations, the country's newly minted attorney general said today."

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

217 lifeofthemind  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:17:03am

re: #193 ilzito guacamolito

Play on words -
Pravda news service
Prada designer shoes

never mind...

The Manalo? Ayyyyy!
[Link: shoeblogs.com...]

218 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:17:56am

re: #206 Nevergiveup

These people will end up getting us all killed

The "Human Rights Court" probably thinks it would be denying Jihadis their rights to prevent them from killing us. After all, they're just trying to practice their religion.

219 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:18:26am

re: #207 jcm

It would / could be restricted to local communities. The story sounds like "agents" are working in the legal system to sneak Sharia onto the books.

The first is possible, even probable to some extent in some communities. The second is not likely.

it could also be happening in sharia banking. follow the money.

220 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:19:40am

re: #218 Kosh's Shadow

The "Human Rights Court" probably thinks it would be denying Jihadis their rights to prevent them from killing us. After all, they're just trying to practice their religion.

I'm not sure if your comment is sarcastic or straight, but I updinged you anyway.

The world has gone mad.

221 Desert Dog  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:19:41am

re: #183 taxfreekiller

We are going to have to come up with a new spelling of Justice and Fairness, as well as new definations of these words.

[Link: www.phoenix.bizjournals.com...]

twin sister act
One the Judge
One the President, and C.E.O. of the National Council of La Raza

this must the what Eric Holder is talking about uh?

Arpaio is a bit of a grandstander and media whore, but you cannot argue with his success. For the first time ever, Illegal aliens living in Phoenix do not feel safe and secure in the USA. There is a the constant threat of being picked up by the Sheriff's Department and charged with the actual crime of being here illegally. He does not release illegals like before...he puts them in Tent City and says they can always put up more tents if they need the room. Agree with him or not, it took a local county sheriff and county District Attorney to do what the State and Federal authorities failed to do - curb illegal immigration.

222 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:20:18am

re: #46 Creeping Eruption

Or to cobbler together a few bucks for them.

The judges would have accepted 'cobbled'.

223 traderjoe9  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:20:28am

re: #216 Walter L. Newton

OT - Yep, let the healing begin...

"The United States is "a nation of cowards" when it comes to race relations, the country's newly minted attorney general said today."

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Is he referring to political correctness?

224 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:21:36am

Yeah, things were so much better back when Saddam was in power. Back when the police would execute people on the street. Then there was the occasional chemical bombings (gassing) of the Kurds. What a "progressive" society it was under Saddam and the UN blockade.

What a proud country it was under Saddam. I'm sure that if this "shoe thrower" had thrown a shoe at a visiting leader under the previous regime he would have been treated so delicately.

Thanks AP (Associated Press) for shedding so much light.

/s

225 Desert Dog  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:21:40am

re: #205 buzzsawmonkey

Interesting how unimpressive many ink-stained hacks found those ink-stained fingers.

Well, if Obama was the man behind the ink stains, they would be carving out his image on Mount Rushmore and making room for an Obama statue at the Lincoln Memorial. But, since it was the evil, vile, stupid, blood thirsty G.W. Bush....it's no big deal......

226 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:22:58am

re: #220 Kenneth

I'm not sure if your comment is sarcastic or straight, but I updinged you anyway.

The world has gone mad.

I was thinking of marking it as sarc, but I'm not so sure the Human Rights Court wouldn't accept that argument. Especially if the jihadis said they were just supposed to kill Jews.

227 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:23:13am

re: #60 rightside

A question for the Canadian lizards here. Is there a huge turnout to see the messiah? Are they scrambling to catch a glimpse of him? Perhaps to touch the hem of his garment?

Throwing bacon at him?

228 redseeped  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:24:46am

re: #223 traderjoe9

Is he referring to political correctness?

The thought accured to me too. Maybe he wants us all to be honest about race relations and not look only for excuses.
He is, afterall, an enlightened post racial hip dude. Ain't he?

229 big L  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:25:56am

he could possibly be an a-hole, too.

230 Kenneth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:26:20am

re: #60 rightside

A question for the Canadian lizards here. Is there a huge turnout to see the messiah? Are they scrambling to catch a glimpse of him? Perhaps to touch the hem of his garment?

Watch it live here: Obama in Ottawa

Full body tongue bath for the one. Icky.

231 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:29:01am

re: #230 Kenneth


Full body tongue bath for the one. Icky.

*shuddder* EEEEEWWWWWWWW

232 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:30:13am
233 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:40:33am

re: #230 Kenneth

Full body tongue bath for the one. Icky.

**uRp** Thanks... I just finished my lunch.
/

234 abolitionist  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:42:37am

re: #130 Charles

Several people are emailing me links to a story about a former FBI agent who's in the news for issuing warnings about a network of subversive Islamic agents implementing sharia law in the United States.

It took one Google search to find out that John Guandolo is associated with the wacko extremist religious group Christian Action Network.

Credibility: zero.

From Feb 2007:
Native American Courts: Precedent for an Islamic arbitral system *

Issa Smith

In the United States today, there is a system of courts which is just outside of the federal and state court systems, known as the American Indian Tribal Courts. The Tribal Courts deal with criminal, civil and family court issues, and have their own lawyers, judges, and court officials. The Muslim Community can learn from the experience of the American Indian Tribal Court System as we attempt to implement Muslim Family Law in North America.
[snip]

The process of implementing Muslim family law will not be accomplished overnight. Changes of their type take place very slowly in American society, and our community is far from being prepared for this tak. I commend the continental council of Masajid for organizing this conference, and bringing together so many workers and thinkers. I pray to Allah [snip]

I believe this info is independent of any individuals and groups that you find not credible.

235 UberInfidel67  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:42:42am

re: #13 SasquatchOnSteroids It was a Weejun of Bass Construction

236 wiffersnapper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:47:12am

Can't wait to pop the champagne when print media finally folds.

237 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:51:37am

re: #236 wiffersnapper

Can't wait to pop the champagne when print media finally folds.

I won't. I wish there were print media we could rely on; we need a truly free press.
And go ahead and pop the cork; the press' credibility died long ago.

238 DoesNotMatter  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 11:41:43am

And I thought he was protesting the sharp drop in shoe quality since Sadam was ousted.

I'd never thought it could be something else.

239 Ceemack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 11:42:34am

re: #117 Last Mohican

And if I may rant a little more... I think that a cornerstone of GWB's policy for the Middle East was a sort of domino theory of democracy. If you forcibly install a democratic government in Iraq, a country that was formerly ruled by a brutal dictator, then suddenly the people there will see the beauty of Western ways, love America, accept Israel, and stop wanting to blow everyone up. The other Arabs will be jealous of their neighbors living in a democracy, and they'll demand democracy too. And then the whole region will just pacify itself and become friendly.

I think that was an utterly flawed idea, for many reasons. The most important is that, if the people of most Arab countries were allowed to elect a leader today, they'd elect the most hateful, violent jihadist available, and then voluntarily relinquish their right to vote ever again.


This is a straw-man argument, and ignores things that have happened in the Middle East since 2003.

I don't think anybody ever suggested that democracy in Iraq would instantly lead to the democratization of the rest of the Muslim world. That process, if it happens, will take decades.

Your contention that the invasion of Iraq was supposed to cause the region to simply "pacify itself" shows that you don't really understand the Bush Administration's strategy. Insurgents--which is what terrorists are--are kind of like mosquitoes: you can't swat them all, so if you want to get rid of them you have to drain the swamp.

You counteract an insurgency by fighting them on the battlefield and by alleviating the social and economic factors that drive them to take up arms in the first place. You increase the danger they face, and reduce their reason for fighting. You don't necessarily make them happy; you don't necessarily make them love you. You simply improve conditions to the point where their young men are no longer enraged enough to give up their lives.

It's like stopping a pot from boiling over. You don't have to turn off the heat--you just have to turn it down a little.

Democracy in Iraq is only now taking its first few faltering steps on its own, so it's unrealistic to expect to see widespread democratic movements yet. But we've already seen a new desire for democracy in Lebanon. Nobody said this would be a clean or easy process, and we've seen the move toward democratization in Lebanon run into obstacles set by the Syrians and their Hezbollah proxies.

The strategy won't bear fruit overnight, but it's always worked in the past.

240 justabill  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:38:19pm

re: #234 abolitionist

Issa Smith

In the United States today, there is a system of courts which is just outside of the federal and state court systems, known as the American Indian Tribal Courts. The Tribal Courts deal with criminal, civil and family court issues, and have their own lawyers, judges, and court officials. The Muslim Community can learn from the experience of the American Indian Tribal Court System as we attempt to implement Muslim Family Law in North America.
[snip]

The process of implementing Muslim family law will not be accomplished overnight. Changes of their type take place very slowly in American society, and our community is far from being prepared for this tak. I commend the continental council of Masajid for organizing this conference, and bringing together so many workers and thinkers. I pray to Allah [snip]

The big difference is that the American Indians have a claim to sovereignty on the reservations. It will be a sad day when the government gives up sovereignty over parts of the US...

241 UberInfidel67  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:46:04pm

I GOT MY COOKBOOK TODAY! The cover art is amazing!

242 gegenkritik  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 1:00:33pm

This shoe-throwing is quite popular among Islamists, Nazis and other Antisemites:

Some days ago, the Israeli ambassador in Sweden was attacked with shoes:
[Link: www.stockholmnews.com...]

And in Germany, the Nazis from the NPD (German Nazi-party) wanted to demonstrate in front of the synagogue in Munich and throw shows against the building (it didn't happened, because the authorities prohibited this spectacle):
[Link: www.sueddeutsche.de...]

This al-Zeidi really becomes an ideal for idiots all over the planet.

243 irongrampa  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 1:07:27pm

You're WELCOME, Al-Zeidi.


Stupid buttbag.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
4 days ago
Views: 126 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 289 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1