Another Guantanamo Detainee Becomes Suicide Bomber

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Another prisoner released from Guantanamo turns suicide bomber, and the Washington Post finds a way to blame it on the US: A ‘Ticking Time Bomb’ Goes Off.

But there is also a view in some quarters of the U.S. government that cases such as Ajmi’s are the inevitable result of locking up 779 foreigners in an austere military prison, without access to courts or consular representation, and subjecting them to interrogation techniques that detainees say amount to torture. Some of them are bound to seek revenge, these officials believe. The challenge is figuring out which ones.

Although U.S. intelligence agencies are monitoring some former Guantanamo detainees, the government lacks the resources to track everyone who has been through the prison. The Defense Intelligence Agency recently stated that as many as 60 other ex-inmates may have “returned to the fight,” but it has not released a list of names or specific allegations.

In Ajmi’s case, however, his behavior at Guantanamo — his refusal to obey orders, his repeated throwing of his excrement, his hostility toward his attorneys — struck his American lawyers as a sign of potential danger. But there is no indication in his court file here, which Kuwaiti legal officials deem a complete repository of the material provided by the United States, that U.S. authorities relayed any concern.

(Hat tip: Michael Yon.)

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130 comments
1 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:11:05am

Political correctness is going to get us killed.

2 ThinkRight  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:11:19am

Say it aint so !
/

3 96RoadKing  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:11:42am

One less a**hole to worry about...

4 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:13:07am

Another poor goat herder driven to despair by George Bush.

/...moonbat off.

5 snuffyword  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:14:02am

So if WaPo blames the US, does that mean the Comrade President is responsible?

6 Golem Akbar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:14:50am

I'm so pi**ed off about getting locked up that I'm going to kill myself? Hey, that's not what I meant...
WaPo stupidity.

7 lesbianrainforest  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:15:09am

Damn creationists! Oh, wait. My bad.

8 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:15:14am

Boy, I can't wait until they close that place altogether and the world loves us yet again.//
Must go to the bathroom and finish retching now.

9 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:15:33am

Why didn't we just cap this guy when we had the chance?

10 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:15:48am

According to standard ultra-lib logic, there are no voluntary criminals, terrorists, or any other bad folks - they're all crimidroids and Islamobots whose evil deeds are triggered when we mistreat them. Osama bin Laden is just responding to American imperialism. And all his drones had their feelings hurt, somewhere along the way.

If we hadn't locked this guy up, he never would have done a thing.

/

11 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:16:55am

I can suggest what we could do to close Gitmo, where we could send the "detainees", but the ACLU, Amnesty International, and others may be upset.
F*ck them.
But Stinky might consider my remark inappropriate.
Let's just say that they should be sent somewhere where they can no longer bother anyone, and maybe have some fun with virgins.

12 rawmuse  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:06am

re: #9 Ward Cleaver

Why didn't we just cap this guy when we had the chance?

See my #1

13 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:11am

Hmmm, I wonder if it is time to employ the methods used by the US Army in WWII when German infiltrators were caught not wearing the uniforms of their home nation.

14 Gella  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:35am

msg to new POTUS:
Please let them all out, there are not enough of US citizens dead.

/////////////

15 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:37am

He did this BECAUSE of GITMO!
//Moonbat off...

16 ThinkRight  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:37am

New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota

For many Minnesota Muslims, it's been virtually impossible to buy a home, because Islamic law forbids the paying or charging of interest. To help close the home ownership gap among Muslim immigrants, the state's housing agency is launching a new program offering Islamic mortgages.

Minneapolis, Minn. — Islamic law does make exceptions to the ban on interest, if one's family is at stake. But the exceptions are open to interpretation and for many observant Muslims, conventional mortgages are strictly taboo.


New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota

17 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:55am

Where did this guy learn to fling his crap? From Hoopie?

18 milk in a box  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:56am

It's not like this guy was a terrorist and that's why we locked him up. He was just a normal guy, minding his own business, harmlessly throwing crap everywhere when BAM, we locked him up.

19 Summersong  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:17:59am

OT- I can barely stand to witness what is happening to some of my elderly neighbors. They are terrified. Their investments are being wiped out and they are devastated. I wish I could tell them it's going to be okay. I don't think it will be.

20 ThinkRight  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:18:18am

re: #16 ThinkRight

New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota


New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota


Sharia law will replace the constitution

21 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:19:04am

re: #19 Summersong

OT- I can barely stand to witness what is happening to some of my elderly neighbors. They are terrified. Their investments are being wiped out and they are devastated. I wish I could tell them it's going to be okay. I don't think it will be.

Don't worry. The government will take care of them.
Anyone have good soylent green recipes?
/

22 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:19:09am

re: #19 Summersong

OT- I can barely stand to witness what is happening to some of my elderly neighbors. They are terrified. Their investments are being wiped out and they are devastated. I wish I could tell them it's going to be okay. I don't think it will be.

They are collateral damage in the Obama grab for power.

23 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:19:11am

re: #18 milk in a box

It's not like this guy was a terrorist and that's why we locked him up. He was just a normal guy, minding his own business, harmlessly throwing crap everywhere when BAM, we locked him up.

"Walking while islamic".

24 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:19:24am

re: #5 snuffyword

So if WaPo blames the US, does that mean the Comrade President is responsible?

Of course not. It's always Bush's fault, silly.

25 Summersong  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:19:45am

re: #22 Leonidas Hoplite

They are collateral damage in the Obama grab for power.

So very true.

26 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:20:15am

Gee, even his lawyers thought he was dangerous, yet they wanted him released.

27 freedombilly  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:20:50am

This is one of the most disgusting things I have ever read in the Washington Post. And there are a lot of nominees for most disgusting story from that pile of rubbish that is the Washington DC's "newspaper of record".

28 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:21:11am
his refusal to obey orders

...

"I will not eat!"

Gitmo Guard: "You have to eat."

"I will not eat!"

Gitmo Guard: "Get the feeding tube."

Moonbats:"WE TORTURED THE DETAINEES! WAH! WAHHHHH!"

///Ok...no more moonbat logic for me...my head hurts...

29 Pyrocles  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:21:16am

His partaking in suicide bombing had nothing to do with his jihadist ideology, of course. It was because of his rough treatment at Gitmo! Duh!

30 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:21:31am

Somebody forgot to tell the Kuwaitis that he wasn't a choir boy?

31 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:21:39am

re: #19 Summersong

OT- I can barely stand to witness what is happening to some of my elderly neighbors. They are terrified. Their investments are being wiped out and they are devastated. I wish I could tell them it's going to be okay. I don't think it will be.

While they suffer Obama kicks up White House entertaining.

32 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:21:45am

Just sayin...Things couldn't get any CRAZIER!
Oop's....My bad !
re: #9 Ward Cleaver
Yup!
Cap 'em before our Military can't afford the bullets!
////// I wish!

33 freedombilly  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:22:17am

re: #1 rawmuse

Political correctness is going to get us killed.

That whole "sticks and stones" phrase was created before the onset of the era of political correctness.

34 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:22:24am
But there is also a view in some quarters of the U.S. government

Ah, those elusive "some".... as in "some believe that...".

That's some rock-solid journalism right there.

35 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:22:46am

re: #28 Oh no...Sand People!

...

"I will not eat!"

Gitmo Guard: "You have to eat."

"I will not eat!"

Gitmo Guard: "Get the feeding tube."

Moonbats:"WE TORTURED THE DETAINEES! WAH! WAHHHHH!"

///Ok...no more moonbat logic for me...my head hurts...

After a couple of days of a prisoner not eating, the guards should have a pork barbeque where he can smell it.

36 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:23:51am

re: #34 Occasional Reader

Ah, those elusive "some".... as in "some believe that...".

That's some rock-solid journalism right there.

"Some" people in my "neighborhood" think this is bullsh*t.

37 snuffyword  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:24:12am

re: #24 Honorary Yooper

Of course not. It's always Bush's fault, silly.

Oh, that's right. I can't wait for WaPo to report that Bush will be investigated for that, too. Silly me!
/

38 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:24:49am

re: #31 FurryOldGuyJeans

While they suffer Obama kicks up White House entertaining.

Gotta love this line...

The flurry of entertaining is in keeping with the Obamas' promise to make the White House a more open place for everyone.

Obama has lavish "command performances", while the nation suffers in a deep recession. AP "accountability journalism" says: This shows how the White House is now open for everyone.

39 looking closely  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #9 Ward Cleaver

Why didn't we just cap this guy when we had the chance?

Obama's so-far broken promise to close Guantanamo notwitstanding, that's going to be the inevitable result of an unclear policy with regards to these sorts of detainees.

Taking prisoners in a PITA, and without clear policy on what's going to happen to potential detainees, I think there are going to be cases where non-uniformed combatants no longer get the benefit of the doubt.

More bluntly, without a Guantanamo-like facility to house them, in the future, some of these sorts of captives will probably just be killed on the field of battle.

Is that REALLY a preferable outcome? From a political perspective, maybe.

40 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:25:24am

Do you guys have any idea what it's like living in WaPo land?

Oh, the Stupidity!

41 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:25:38am

To the vultures and disgustingly evil scumbags that are currently ruining our way of life:
I want my country back! You fuckers!

42 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:25:56am

re: #17 Ward Cleaver

Where did this guy learn to fling his crap? From Hoopie?

Daily Kos

43 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:25:59am

From that WaPo article:

'When Ajmi returned to Kuwait, "he was a ticking time bomb," said Mansur Saleh al-Ajmi, one of his younger brothers.
"Before he went to Afghanistan, he was a normal teenager. He spun the car around in circles. He smoked. People liked him," Mansur said. "After he came back from Guantanamo, he seemed like a completely different person. He stared all the time. You could not have a normal conversation with him. . . . It seemed as if his brain had been washed." '
(Emphasis by me)

Ahem.
So what was he doing in Afghanistan? Perhaps getting brainwashed ther, by the usual suspects? Perhaps that might ahve been the reason he ended up in Gunatanamo?
Of course, we can't speak about that!
No, its gotta be the Big Bad Satan, you-know-who, who is guilty, never the ROPMA!

44 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:26:11am

re: #38 Occasional Reader

Obama has lavish "command performances", while the nation suffers in a deep recession. AP "accountability journalism" says: This shows how the White House is now open for everyone.

Where is my invite?

45 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:26:30am

re: #38 Occasional Reader

So... In the intrest of "Diversity " will he invite...
Oh....say...STUCK MOJO ?

46 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:26:31am

re: #38 Occasional Reader

Obama has lavish "command performances", while the nation suffers in a deep recession. AP "accountability journalism" says: This shows how the White House is now open for everyone.

Some people who lost their homes should show up with a copy of the article and ask to be let in.

47 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:27:18am

re: #44 DaddyG

Where is my invite?

"everyone" only includes Democrats. You would be a 'no one'. /

48 zeebeach  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:27:40am

re: #19 Summersong
Ditto, summer. I live in a modest N. FL area with many retired folks who felt they were set to enjoy their "golden years". Now they're bagging groceries at the local supermarket, hoping to shore up their diminishing retirement accounts. Makes me very, very angry.

49 Bubbaman  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:28:21am

I'm sure that all of the detainees would be welcome at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to cavort with like minded individuals.

50 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:28:25am

OK, I have some errands to run. Later Lizards! Play nice.

51 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:28:52am

re: #28 Oh no...Sand People!

...

"I will not eat!"

Gitmo Guard: "You have to eat."

"I will not eat!"

Gitmo Guard: "Get the feeding tube."

Moonbats:"WE TORTURED THE DETAINEES! WAH! WAHHHHH!"

///Ok...no more moonbat logic for me...my head hurts...

The guard should have said "Let the piggoat-fucker starve."

52 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:29:29am

re: #48 zeebeach

Ditto, summer. I live in a modest N. FL area with many retired folks who felt they were set to enjoy their "golden years". Now they're bagging groceries at the local supermarket, hoping to shore up their diminishing retirement accounts. Makes me very, very angry.

How many of those also voted for Obama because they fell for the SS Scam. Like they used to`say in the military, "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it".

53 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:01am

re: #31 FurryOldGuyJeans

While they suffer Obama kicks up White House entertaining.

NeroZer0 fiddles while Rome burns...

54 vapig  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:03am

Murderous schmuck!

Oh yeah! Let's let em all out!

/

55 looking closely  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:06am

re: #13 Leonidas Hoplite

Hmmm, I wonder if it is time to employ the methods used by the US Army in WWII when German infiltrators were caught not wearing the uniforms of their home nation.

See my response above.
That's likely to happen.
In fact, its probably ALREADY happened that individuals who otherwise might already have been taken captive have been released or killed.
The only difference is that another casualty in Afghanistan isn't going to make the cover of the NYT, the way, for example, captives following the instructions of the Al Queda training manual (ie allege torture if captured) will.

56 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:15am

re: #39 looking closely

Taking prisoners in a PITA

Having prisoners sandwiched in like that? I felafel about it.

57 Irish Rose  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:26am

Oh, the poor, poor man!

/

58 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:35am

re: #31 FurryOldGuyJeans

While they suffer Obama kicks up White House entertaining.

Give CBBHO a fucking fiddle 'cause Rome is about to burn.

59 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:38am

re: #16 ThinkRight

New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota


New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota

From the snippet:

To help close the home ownership gap among Muslim immigrants, the state's housing agency is launching a new program offering Islamic mortgages.

Let me see if I understand this. The state agency is launching a program of interest free mortgage loans for Muslims in Minnesota?

That's insanity. First, I would assume these loans are funded by taxpayers, either at the state level, or through a federal program the housing agency is participating in.

So taxpayers who are not eligible for these loans are funding them, while struggling with their own, non-interest free, mortgages?

Everyone involved in this should be in prison.

60 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:30:50am

Stimulusol XR, for the relief of anxiety do to economic disaster...

61 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:31:00am

re: #53 lurking faith

NeroZer0 fiddles while Rome burns...

By a mere 34 seconds.

62 Hengineer  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:31:04am

Spanking kids cause them to kill their parents.


/s

63 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:31:15am
64 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:31:40am

OT

Dow Jones Industrial Average ($DJI)
6,859.27 -203.66 (-2.88%)

Change you can believe in thanks to baRock oBottom.

65 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:32:00am

re: #59 subsailor68

From the snippet:

To help close the home ownership gap among Muslim immigrants, the state's housing agency is launching a new program offering Islamic mortgages.

Let me see if I understand this. The state agency is launching a program of interest free mortgage loans for Muslims in Minnesota?

That's insanity. First, I would assume these loans are funded by taxpayers, either at the state level, or through a federal program the housing agency is participating in.
So taxpayers who are not eligible for these loans are funding them, while struggling with their own, non-interest free, mortgages?

Everyone involved in this should be in prison.

So much for the seperation of church and state. How much longer until Islam becomes our national religion?

66 Sceptic Tank  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:32:03am

This just the beginning of the Outrages that will increase our venerability to terrorism. These actions, over time, will undo the work of our soldiers and all policies put in place for security.

67 Drained Brain  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:32:18am

And these are the "innocent" ones being set free - just wait.

68 albusteve  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:32:34am

regardless of the politics I have a problem with summary execution....jihadis or not...gunning down an unarmed man is not cool

69 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:32:41am

re: #49 Bubbaman

I'm sure that all of the detainees would be welcome at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to cavort with like minded individuals.

That's what they meant by "open for everyone".

70 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:32:50am
71 SteveC  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:33:23am

The rest of the world continues to swim in shit. The President of Guinea-Bissau was assassinated today. And yesterday, a bomb just happened to go off in the office of the head of the military. He too shuffled off his mortal coil.

Report from CNN

72 lurking faith  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:33:26am

re: #61 MandyManners

By a mere 34 seconds.


I'm shocked. Usually I'm several minutes behind...

73 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:33:28am

re: #64 ArchangelMichael

The Canadian TSE is down 5.6% so far today.

74 looking closely  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:33:31am

re: #48 zeebeach

Ditto, summer. I live in a modest N. FL area with many retired folks who felt they were set to enjoy their "golden years". Now they're bagging groceries at the local supermarket, hoping to shore up their diminishing retirement accounts. Makes me very, very angry.

I know Fl retirees who have had the triple-hit of having their retirement accounts utterly demolished, AND now being upside down on the mortgage.

To make things even worse, the economy is such that even if they were capable of finding work there aren't jobs to be had.

Its a pretty harsh blow for a 67 year old retired professional who can't get a job in their original field to go flip burgers or work at Walmart.

75 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:33:49am

re: #64 ArchangelMichael

OT

Dow Jones Industrial Average ($DJI)
6,859.27 -203.66 (-2.88%)

Change you can believe in thanks to baRock oBottom.

Well I guess I should go eat lunch while I'm still lucky enough to have food.
Later, all!

76 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:34:00am

If he had been hung, he would not have been able to suicide bomb.

77 albusteve  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:34:05am

re: #71 SteveC

The rest of the world continues to swim in shit. The President of Guinea-Bissau was assassinated today. And yesterday, a bomb just happened to go off in the office of the head of the military. He too shuffled off his mortal coil.

Report from CNN

I won't even open a link to CNN....spit

78 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:34:18am

re: #38 Occasional Reader

The part that really got me was this:

"We are just temporary occupants. This is a place that belongs to the American people and we want to make sure that everybody understands it's open," he said.

He certainly acts like he is permanent Massa of the Plantation and not some temporary occupant.

79 yma o hyd  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:34:36am

re: #59 subsailor68

From the snippet:

To help close the home ownership gap among Muslim immigrants, the state's housing agency is launching a new program offering Islamic mortgages.

Let me see if I understand this. The state agency is launching a program of interest free mortgage loans for Muslims in Minnesota?

That's insanity. First, I would assume these loans are funded by taxpayers, either at the state level, or through a federal program the housing agency is participating in.

So taxpayers who are not eligible for these loans are funding them, while struggling with their own, non-interest free, mortgages?

Everyone involved in this should be in prison.

Preferential treatment for one group, based on religion - wouldn't there be any lawyers to take this on?
Looks suspiciuosly illegal to me, but then I'm not a lawyer ...

80 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:34:42am

re: #65 soxfan4life

So much for the seperation of church and state. How much longer until Islam becomes our national religion?

Extremely good point!

This is enough to make my blood boil.

81 zeebeach  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:34:52am

re: #52 soxfan4life

Actually, I'd say the split was about 60/40 for McCain. Pathetic, I know. It's not that I wasn't trying to tell the local dems they were delusional. They were delusional, and still are. Blaming Bush, of course.

82 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:35:25am

re: #77 albusteve

I won't even open a link to CNN....spit

Surely it must end with a way to blame George Bush for this assasination.Wouldn't expect less from CNN.

83 obscured by clouds  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:35:52am

If only someone had known he'd come down with sudden jihad syndrome he could've gotten help training at Saudi Arabia's Royal Jihad Treatment Center.

84 Summersong  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:36:15am

re: #48 zeebeach

Ditto, summer. I live in a modest N. FL area with many retired folks who felt they were set to enjoy their "golden years". Now they're bagging groceries at the local supermarket, hoping to shore up their diminishing retirement accounts. Makes me very, very angry.

It is heartbreaking. It isn't right! I am very angry, too.

I am thinking that maybe I should start organizing a pot luck dinner once a week. Invite the old and the young and the in-between. We can't party like the "O", but we can lend some moral support to people who are suffering.

85 Irish Rose  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:36:15am

re: #19 Summersong

OT- I can barely stand to witness what is happening to some of my elderly neighbors. They are terrified. Their investments are being wiped out and they are devastated. I wish I could tell them it's going to be okay. I don't think it will be.


I work with the elderly and disabled, and I'm seeing the same thing.
One elderly lady that I spoke with recently is in declining health, and has lost all of the money that she was depending on to pay for her nursing home care. She has absolutely no idea what she's going to do now.

86 joncelli  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:36:20am

Early OT but I need to get this off my chest: It is REALLY snowing a bunch in Philly. That is all.

87 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:37:03am

re: #79 yma o hyd

Preferential treatment for one group, based on religion - wouldn't there be any lawyers to take this on?
Looks suspiciuosly illegal to me, but then I'm not a lawyer ...

I'm not either, but I would certainly think it's unconstitutional. Unless it's all state money, I suppose, and there's nothing preventing it in the Minnesota constitution.

Regardless, though, it's just plain wrong.

88 SteveC  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:37:17am

re: #77 albusteve

I won't even open a link to CNN....spit

It was the source of the newflash I got. I went and washed my hands and my arms up to the elbow after I touched it. I didn't want to spread anything I might have picked up.

I think everyone will be ok!

89 looking closely  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:37:32am

re: #68 albusteve

regardless of the politics I have a problem with summary execution....jihadis or not...gunning down an unarmed man is not cool

How about one that just snuck into your camp dressed as a woman, who planted a bomb that killed three of your colleagues?

There are reasons for the so-called "rules of war".

There are also military tribunals available to try these combatants.

90 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:37:42am

re: #81 zeebeach

Actually, I'd say the split was about 60/40 for McCain. Pathetic, I know. It's not that I wasn't trying to tell the local dems they were delusional. They were delusional, and still are. Blaming Bush, of course.

The first step is admitting you have a problem.

91 Russkilitlover  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:38:59am

re: #31 FurryOldGuyJeans

While they suffer Obama kicks up White House entertaining.

Why is it that when Obama refers to the White House "the people's house," it makes me shudder? I know that everyone has always called it that, but coming from Barry, it has a whole 'nother connotation.

92 KitchenQueen  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:39:10am

re: #31 FurryOldGuyJeans

While they suffer Obama kicks up White House entertaining.

Let them eat ($100) steak, baby.
/

93 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:39:20am
94 Summersong  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:39:59am

re: #85 Irish Rose

I work with the elderly and disabled, and I'm seeing the same thing.
One elderly lady that I spoke with recently is in declining health, and has lost all of the money that she was depending on to pay for her nursing home care. She has absolutely no idea what she's going to do now.

Sigh..This is just horrendous.

95 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:40:14am

How pathetic of the WaPo... it is always the Evil American's (TM) fault... they were all just good boys until WE stepped in and made them terrorists! And then the cowards at WaPo close the comments section so that the poor Libtards cannot even yell at us Evil Americans (TM) and tell us how we get what we deserve...

I'm absolutely certain that EVERY word that came from the family of this poor "VICTIM" is the absolute truth. They always tell the truth, right?

Religion of Peace... Hope and Change... Peanut Butter and Crackers... It's all the same.

//... is this even necessary?

96 BLBfootballs  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:40:35am

Throughout history, "austere military prisons" and lack of consular representation have been the surefire catalysts that turn decent men into suicide bombers...

97 RaiderDan  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:40:40am

The Washington Post is truly providing a lesson in Orwellian history here. There are no terrorists, just innocent Muslims driven to revenge by George W. Bush, the neocons and the "torture" inflicted on them at Gitmo. I'm surprised "Winston Smith" wasn't on the byline. I laughed when Keith Olbermann used the "Gitmo made them do it" excuse, but its chilling when the Washington Post repeats the meme without question (and the Post is slightly more moderate than the other former "paper of record" the once sober NY Times)

If "Gitmo made them do it" is the new liberal meme, then how do they explain 9-11, when at 8:30 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2001, the Fuehrer Bush had yet to open Gitmo, invade Iraq, or Abu Ghirab....

Down is up, black is white, good is evil, and evil is good....

I think Evan Sayet said that best.

98 albusteve  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:41:35am

re: #89 looking closely

How about one that just snuck into your camp dressed as a woman, who planted a bomb that killed three of your colleagues?

There are reasons for the so-called "rules of war".

There are also military tribunals available to try these combatants.

I'm talking about quitters...the situation has not been handled properly for sure..I don't know what the answers are...in combat if you don't allow them to give up I suppose you just put yourself at further risk....we need to learn as we go...one thing is certain and that is the MSM should never have been allowed to visit Gitmo

99 zeebeach  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:42:10am

re: #84 Summersong

The potlock is a good idea, actually. Keeps everyone from becoming overly introverted in their embarrassment over not foreseeing this mess, or not saving adequately for the future (in their opinion). These are mostly very decent folks who will blame themselves for their situation. Keeping everyone connected is very healthy and may help with any community activism that may become warranted in the coming months.

100 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:43:31am

re: #83 obscured by clouds

If only someone had known he'd come down with sudden jihad syndrome he could've gotten help training at Saudi Arabia's Royal Jihad Treatment Center.

That would make a great show on Al Jazeera. After all, we have "Celebrity Rehab", they can have "Rehab of those who Misunderstand Peaceful Inner Struggle"

101 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:44:53am
102 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:46:32am

I have an idea. Let's tell 'em that Ben Affleck's movie Al Gigli is an insult to Islam. Let 'em all run out and get it, then watch their heads explode!

(I know mine almost did.)

103 Summersong  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:47:00am

re: #99 zeebeach

The potlock is a good idea, actually. Keeps everyone from becoming overly introverted in their embarrassment over not foreseeing this mess, or not saving adequately for the future (in their opinion). These are mostly very decent folks who will blame themselves for their situation. Keeping everyone connected is very healthy and may help with any community activism that may become warranted in the coming months.

Nicely said, Zee.

104 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:47:05am

Oops. Wrong thread.

Arrgh.

105 zeebeach  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:51:23am

re: #103 Summersong

Thanks. Let's all try to stay connected and alert. We must get through this nightmare, and we will.

106 Timbre  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:52:52am

Defense lawyers take note:

In Ajmi’s case, however, his behavior at Guantanamo — his refusal to obey orders, his repeated throwing of his excrement, his hostility toward his attorneys — struck his American lawyers as a sign of potential danger.

If your "client" acts out in prison (county jail, state prison, federal prison) by all means demand that he/she be released because they are becoming potentially dangerous--especially if they are Jihadi to begin with!

Idiots!

107 SummerSong  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:57:21am

re: #105 zeebeach

Thanks. Let's all try to stay connected and alert. We must get through this nightmare, and we will.

{Zeebeach} That's the spirit!

108 locogalt  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 8:57:29am

Release them all to make room for the traitors on Capitol Hill...

109 rumcrook  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:03:13am

oh yes its our fault.

cant possibly the barbaric 3rd century zenophobic head chopin quasi religo-political movement started by a mass murderer, that has been inculcating him with messages of our less than human status so its his duty to murder us any chance he gets, since he was old enough to walk...

yeah not that.

110 Caboose  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:05:57am

These buttmunchers were ticking long before they were ever sent to Gitmo. We should have given them their "rights" under the Geneva Convention (oh, wait, they weren't signatories to the GC, so they don't HAVE GC rights!) for non-uniformed combatants captured on the battlefield, a .45 slug to the base of the skull delivered at muzzle velocity (hope that doesn't violate the LGF code of advocating violence!).

Terminate with extreme prejudice.

111 NelsFree  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:09:13am

re: #87 subsailor68

I'm not either, but I would certainly think it's unconstitutional. Unless it's all state money, I suppose, and there's nothing preventing it in the Minnesota constitution.

Regardless, though, it's just plain wrong.

The irony of Sharia Financing: the interest normally charged over the life of the loan is replaced by a single "administrative fee", WHICH IS USUALLY HIGHER THAN THE TOTAL INTEREST. As the article showed, "the outcome is the same".

112 Perplexed  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:10:12am

Ah, the jihadis blow up all too soon.

113 JustABill  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:10:34am

re: #47 Ford_Prefect

"everyone" only includes Democrats. You would be a 'no one'. /

It also includes RINO senators who have something he wants at the moment.

Remember bipartisanship means having your opponents over for a drink while Nancy crafts bills they should never be supporting...

114 avanti  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:15:07am

re: #5 snuffyword

So if WaPo blames the US, does that mean the Comrade President is responsible?

You can't call GW a Commie for that release, I'm sure he was not involved directly in the decision.

115 Perplexed  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:15:57am

re: #85 Irish Rose

I work with the elderly and disabled, and I'm seeing the same thing.
One elderly lady that I spoke with recently is in declining health, and has lost all of the money that she was depending on to pay for her nursing home care. She has absolutely no idea what she's going to do now.

She's up the creek without a paddle. I lost everything in savings during a two year stint of being laid off in the 90s. Suspect that SS won't be there in 10 years when I was going to retire. So, retirement is now two days or so before they shovel dirt onto my face.

116 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:18:40am
117 Perplexed  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:20:54am

re: #19 Summersong

OT- I can barely stand to witness what is happening to some of my elderly neighbors. They are terrified. Their investments are being wiped out and they are devastated. I wish I could tell them it's going to be okay. I don't think it will be.

Stock market dropped below 7000 today. Stocks are in a free fall with minor/short lived rallies. I suspect that the ONE rather enjoys seeing rich/middle class white folks worrying about their future. The really funny thing is that the stock market collapse also hurts rich/middle class black folks. The ONE has a tiger by the tail and has no clue as how to get out of this predicament. Seems like he and his wife, though, are partying like there's no tomorrow.

118 bolivar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:35:20am

re: #89 looking closely

How about one that just snuck into your camp dressed as a woman, who planted a bomb that killed three of your colleagues?

There are reasons for the so-called "rules of war".

There are also military tribunals available to try these combatants.

Correction, there WERE military tribunals. We are now in the realm of anything goes and feelgood groupthink.

119 CommonCents  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:35:40am

re: #35 Kosh's Shadow

After a couple of days of a prisoner not eating, the guards should have a pork barbeque where he can smell it.

Screw that. If he doesn't want to eat. Fine, let him starve.

120 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:36:20am
121 bolivar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:38:00am

re: #120 buzzsawmonkey

Let's not blow this up out of proportion.

ggggrrrrrrooooooaaaaaannnnnnnnnn!

122 Annar  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 9:39:39am

Henceforth, they should be dropped , fully charged, down Ahmadinejad's favorite well in Qom to greet the Mahdi. They could read the Post on the way down to their encounter.

123 Zimriel  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 10:27:41am

re: #117 Perplexed

Stock market dropped below 7000 today. Stocks are in a free fall with minor/short lived rallies. I suspect that the ONE rather enjoys seeing rich/middle class white folks worrying about their future. The really funny thing is that the stock market collapse also hurts rich/middle class black folks. The ONE has a tiger by the tail and has no clue as how to get out of this predicament. Seems like he and his wife, though, are partying like there's no tomorrow.

Like Louis and Marie in the Hall of Mirrors...

124 xiphos  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 10:46:49am

"His repeated throwing of his excrement".
Did that include our "jouralists?"

125 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:09:04am

re: #16 ThinkRight

New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota


New Islamic mortgages now available in Minnesota

How long until someone files a lawsuit demanding zero percent mortgages for everyone and bankrupt the system?

Or, worse yet, how long until "non-muslims" lie and say they are muslim to get the loans and bankrupt the system?

Oh wait... Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac already have bankrupted the US...

126 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:15:54am

Higher fees upfront are essentially the same as interest if the final payment is the same... (which makes them hypocrites for renaming/hiding the interest etc) however if the loan is based on being equivalent to a 7 percent loan and other buyers are looking at 8 percent or worse I could see them demanding the lower rate in the interest of "fairness" etc...

127 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:16:06am
But there is also a view in some quarters of the U.S. government that cases such as Ajmi’s are the inevitable result of locking up 779 foreigners in an austere military prison, without access to courts or consular representation, and subjecting them to interrogation techniques that detainees say amount to torture. Some of them are bound to seek revenge, these officials believe. The challenge is figuring out which ones.

Because the natural reaction for a normal law abiding person to being wrongly locked up for committing a crime is to go out and actually commit that crime when you are released//

128 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:25:10am
But there is also a view in some the hindquarters of the U.S. government that cases such as Ajmi’s are the inevitable result of ...

Preview would have been the waPo's friend.

Whizz-by post ... I'm outta here

129 bullskin  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 11:31:09am

Monkeys use to throw their excrement's at the zoo. For a not so evil comparison I recall this cartoon from master Ramírez.

130 The Undead Buddy Holly  Mon, Mar 2, 2009 1:20:58pm

The obvious solution is to hold everyone until they die of old age. If we suspect, but can't prove, nefarious intentions, into the dungeon with them.
This strategy would work with those convicted or suspected of felonies here at home as well.


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