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1 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 7:59:51pm

LNDT, I have nothing to say!

"beer and wings in hot pants"

Basically.

2 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:00:50pm

Is this the no-cog arguing thread?

3 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:01:29pm

Trust us.

We're the press.

/

4 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:01:38pm

Surf & Turf! Where is Paul Bunnions ox, Ol' Blue?

5 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:01:43pm

Why when I read the headline did I have a sudden itch in particular area?

6 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:19pm

re: #2 Harry Tuttle

Let's hope. Giant killer threads are far more interesting!

7 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:22pm

re: #3 unclassifiable

Trust us.

We're the press.

/

Adam ant

We are guilty, we are beyond hope
We beg to differ, we are a terminal case
Press darlings, press darlings, press darlings
Press darlings, press darlings
We depress the press, darlings

We're on the outside, but we're not looking in
We are the vaseline gang, don't play your little games
Press darlings, press darlings, press darlings
Press darlings, press darlings
We depress the press, darlings
And if evil be the food of genius
There aren't many demons around
If passion ends in fashion
Nick kent / bushell is the best-dressed man in town

Are we different? - no

We are exactly the same
There are no boxes for us
The ones you love to hate - so read on!

8 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:27pm

re: #2 Harry Tuttle

He will be here.

This is too satirical to the MSM.

9 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:02:59pm

I especially liked the fake NYT quote. It's exactly the kind of wrong-headed blather that they crap out.

10 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:03:27pm

They were clearly not around the Village in the '70s.

11 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:02pm

I loved how they used Jeff Goldblum as the dissenting scientist. Reminded me of Jurassic Park.

12 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:19pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

I especially liked the fake NYT quote. It's exactly the kind of wrong-headed blather that they crap out.

Like this? Israel stance was undoing of nominee

13 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:30pm

This IS a fitting thread to be crabby on, anyway.

14 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:53pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

I especially liked the fake NYT quote. It's exactly the kind of wrong-headed blather that they crap out.

That was Jeff Goldblum who made that quote or one just like it in "Jurassic Park" I believe.

15 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:04:58pm

Want some crab with your whine?

16 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:25pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

I loved how they used Jeff Goldblum as the dissenting scientist. Reminded me of Jurassic Park.

Or The Fly. ph3re teh arthr0podz!

17 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:05:59pm

Giant killer crabs, that is.

18 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:06:28pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

I loved how they used Jeff Goldblum as the dissenting scientist. Reminded me of Jurassic Park.

Independence Day.

19 Gearhead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:03pm

They pose NO threat? I need to call an old girlfriend and apologize...

20 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:08pm

re: #16 Zimriel

It was Goldburg's character that stated messing with life in such a way would have repercussions, and it was he that was shown correct. Having watched the movie within the last few months, I found that exchange where he lodges his complaint to be highly interesting.

21 ratherdashing  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:08pm

My favorite Onion piece:

Area Baby Doesn't Have Any Friends


I still read it and laugh.

22 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:23pm
23 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:35pm

In the vein of the Alec Baldwin "Schwettie Balls" SNL kit. The puns never stop coming, as we are about to witness in this thread!

24 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:42pm

re: #18 Racer X

Independence Day.

Except he was a geek in that movie.

25 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:43pm

I would not be one bit surprised if Obama and his band of flunkies held a press conference and announced such a plan. The ineptitude of this White House makes Jimmy carter look like a genius.

26 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:07:48pm

New Kimber grips installed. Very pretty. I mean... er, fookin' A cool. (Sounds more macho.)

27 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:08:03pm

I saw a commercial on TV just now.

It ended in a website. It's like The Onion, except I have a sneaking suspicion these people believe their satire:

thisisreality.org

Kiss your easily-available electricity at (somewhat) affordable rates goodbye. Obama's insane leftist kook base is on the march.

28 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:08:05pm

But can the US produce enough dipping butter to allow for this kind of development?

Maybe a congresscritter will be able to get an earmark in the next Goosing Stimulus bill to fund a study.

29 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:08:14pm

I liked the "coming up" headline. "Farty Hostage Released From Captivity"

30 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:08:25pm

dre: #8 unclassifiable

He's here! Just as predicted.

re: #17 Cognito

What took you so long?

31 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:08:43pm

But, it must be said, if giant, razor-clawed crabs did propose a problem then naturally women and minorities would be hardest hit.

32 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:09:07pm

re: #30 Bubblehead II

Mm?

33 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:09:22pm

I wasted pretty much the whole evening at [Link: www.newgrounds.com....] All thanks to PZ "pharyngula" Myers... who sent me hither.

narwhals! narwhals...

34 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:09:45pm

re: #25 Jetpilot1101

I would not be one bit surprised if Obama and his band of flunkies held a press conference and announced such a plan. The ineptitude of this White House makes Jimmy carter look like a genius.

my dad is spinning in his grave right now z'l

35 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:09:47pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Except he was a geek in that movie.

A geek who saved the world!

36 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:08pm

re: #18 Racer X

Independence Day.

Both, he played a dissenter in both movies.

37 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:19pm

re: #35 Racer X

A geek who saved the world!

With a Mac!

38 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:20pm

re: #25 Jetpilot1101

Heh. While ago, I asked if it was too much that Obama at least rise to Carter's level of incompetence.

That was intended as sarcastic humor. It's now become an honest request.

39 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:31pm

The giant acid-spitting crabs are doing the jobs Americans just won't do!

40 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:34pm

re: #31 razorbacker

But, it must be said, if giant, razor-clawed crabs did propose a problem then naturally women and minorities would be hardest hit.

Snicker. . .yeah, the villian may change, but the victims stay the same. . .

41 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:10:47pm

re: #29 Bobblehead

I liked the "coming up" headline. "Farty Hostage Released From Captivity"

I thought the Miss March thing was a joke until they showed the trailer.

42 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:11pm

...like, uh, spit acid.

43 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:22pm

re: #38 irongrampa

Heh. While ago, I asked if it was too much that Obama at least rise to Carter's level of incompetence.

That was intended as sarcastic humor. It's now become an honest request.

No- he doesn't have it in him

44 GOPManHatTanIte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:25pm

...but what about under-pants gnomes

45 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:11:29pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader

New Kimber grips installed. Very pretty. I mean... er, fookin' A cool. (Sounds more macho.)

Did it come with the grips, or did you have to pay extra when you downloaded a book?

46 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:12:39pm

"I am so tired of these naysayers..."

Spoken like an Obamaton.

47 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:20pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

I thought the Miss March thing was a joke until they showed the trailer.

So did I.

48 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:36pm

re: #42 Dar ul Harb

...like, uh, spit acid.

Just stay away from the brown acid.

49 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:42pm

So it's ok to laugh at giant crab-breeders now? Is that what LGF has come to?
//

50 GOPManHatTanIte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:43pm

The Onion's take on Chas Freeman's exit: WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE

51 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:13:43pm

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

Some of those Russian novels have pretty strong recoil.

52 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:14:09pm

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Just stay away from the brown acid.

And the yellow snow.

53 GOPManHatTanIte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:14:30pm

damn tried to embed that Kramer rant video...oh well

54 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:14:33pm

re: #51 jaunte

Some of those Russian novels have pretty strong recoil.

The French prose always misfires.

55 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:14:35pm

re: #33 Zimriel

I wasted pretty much the whole evening at [Link: www.newgrounds.com....] All thanks to PZ "pharyngula" Myers... who sent me hither.

narwhals! narwhals...

Narwal's ivory tusks have gotten then the nickname "unicorns of the sea". Sadly, like all unicorns, they heard BHO and felt a tingle in their flukes.

//

56 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:15:24pm

re: #27 OldLineTexan

I saw a commercial on TV just now.

It ended in a website. It's like The Onion, except I have a sneaking suspicion these people believe their satire:

thisisreality.org

Kiss your easily-available electricity at (somewhat) affordable rates goodbye. Obama's insane leftist kook base is on the march.

The Left has all the cool graphics designers, unfortunately. I assume they run their servers on nothing but their cool awesomeness.

57 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:15:35pm

re: #49 Jimmah

So it's ok to laugh at giant crab-breeders now? Is that what LGF has come to?
//

OBSESSED with mocking of species! Those people at LGF are all specieists!

58 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:15:46pm

re: #38 irongrampa

Heh. While ago, I asked if it was too much that Obama at least rise to Carter's level of incompetence.

That was intended as sarcastic humor. It's now become an honest request.

Obama and his bunch of bumbling buffoons are just too tired to achieve that. You'll have to settle for a level of incompetence not seen since Caligula sent a horse to the senate.

59 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:16:16pm

re: #57 karmic_inquisitor

OBSESSED with mocking of species! Those people at LGF are all specieists!

Or specious at the very least.

60 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:16:19pm

re: #51 jaunte

Some of those Russian novels have pretty strong recoil.

Like Tolstoy's Anna Kalashnikova, for instance.

61 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:17:11pm

re: #32 Cognito

Lurking again? Just waiting for the chance to jump out and call us moronic idiots.

62 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:17:44pm

re: #47 Bobblehead

So did I.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one! LOL

63 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:17:59pm

They're obviously a product of intelligent design.

64 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:00pm

re: #57 karmic_inquisitor

OBSESSED with mocking of species! Those people at LGF are all specieists!

They forget that crabs are people too.

65 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:20pm

re: #61 Bubblehead II

Lurking again? Just waiting for the chance to jump out and call us moronic idiots.

And there we go.

I'll say again: If you want to be offended, I won't stop you.

66 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:36pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

Obama and his bunch of bumbling buffoons are just too tired to achieve that. You'll have to settle for a level of incompetence not seen since Caligula sent a horse to the senate.

Well, you could say that Obama is half of a horse. The back half, that is.

67 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:18:39pm

Facists!

/Results 1 - 10 of about 7,360,000 for facist. (0.10 seconds)

68 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:19:09pm

re: #60 Occasional Reader

Like Tolstoy's Anna Kalashnikova, for instance.

Ever throw "The Brothers Karamazov" at someone?

69 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:19:09pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Well, you could say that Obama is half of a horse. The back half, that is.

The south end of a horse going north.

71 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:20:24pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harb

The giant acid-spitting crabs are doing the jobs Americans just won't dowill soon be forced to do!

72 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:20:38pm
73 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:20:45pm

re: #61 Bubblehead II

Lurking again? Just waiting for the chance to jump out and call us moronic idiots.

re: #65 Cognito

And there we go.

I'll say again: If you want to be offended, I won't stop you.

Enough! Dianna had the good idea to leave the arguments on the thread they start on. This should be a fun thread, not a flame war.

74 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:21:18pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

He cannot fail too soon for me. The quicker we can rid ourselves of this incompetent Marxist the better, and begin repairing the damage already done.

Hopefully, the magnitude of their failure will ensure that the secular progressives who've co-opted the classic liberal definition will be consigned to roam the wilderness for eons to come.

75 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:21:25pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

"Life finds a way."

76 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:21:57pm

re: #68 karmic_inquisitor

Ever throw "The Brothers Karamazov" at someone?

A crime that deserves punishment to be sure

77 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:22:05pm

Lets see, bioengineered crabs, capable of solving puzzles, highly inteliigent. Will probably exterminate all signs of man and his legacy, declare that Crab evolved from the ether and that was no such thing/it/creator as Man.

Could happen, ya know

(do I need a sarc tag?)

better put one in, just in case.

///

78 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:22:31pm

re: #70 Last Mohican

Look, another left-wing propaganda site is having a poll where you can grade Obama's performance.

Jaysus...just voted "Poor" and found that 59% of my fellow citizens say "Excellent" or "Good." Inherent flaw of Democracy.

79 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:22:53pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

Yup.

Speaking of which: I'm amazed that SNL hasn't hired away the Onion's writers. They're consistently funnier than their network cousins.

80 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:23:20pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

New Rules!

81 Bloodnok  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:23:53pm

Good night, folkses!

82 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:23:56pm

re: #80 JohnAdams

New Rules!

It's not a rule. It's a suggestion.

83 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:24:20pm

re: #78 JohnAdams

MSNBC ran one also, and surprisingly The One got shithammered.

84 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:25:03pm

You know there may be some redeeming qualities in these crabs.

Can they be trained to only attack politicians?

85 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:25:18pm

re: #83 irongrampa

MSNBC ran one also, and surprisingly The One got shithammered.

Did he ever!

86 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:25:45pm

'By their works ye shall know them.'

Obama victory bash owes city $1.74 mil.

Chicago has yet to recoup the $1.74 million cost of President Obama's victory celebration in Grant Park -- despite a burgeoning $50.5 million budget shortfall that threatens more layoffs and union concessions.

"The Democratic National Committee has not yet paid us,'' Peter Scales, a spokesman for the city's Office of Budget and Management, said Thursday after questions from the Chicago Sun-Times. "We're reaching out to them this week."

Stacie Paxton, a spokeswoman for the Obama-controlled DNC, explained the reimbursement delay by saying, "We are still looking at various costs and bills.'' She would not say whether parts of the bill are disputed.

87 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:25:52pm

re: #78 JohnAdams

Jaysus...just voted "Poor" and found that 59% of my fellow citizens say "Excellent" or "Good." Inherent flaw of Democracy.


I am surprised you had the choice. Surely the options would be

Messianic
Amazingly Incredible
Excellent
Pretty bloody good
wash your mouth out with soap.

88 sngnsgt  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:00pm

re: #70 Last Mohican

Hell, that was easy.

89 CapeCoddah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:08pm

re: #83 irongrampa

MSNBC ran one also, and surprisingly The One got shithammered.

Did they take that down and hide it or leave it up?

90 Neutral President  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:16pm

re: #83 irongrampa

I'm surprised that MSNBS didn't memory hole it.

91 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:16pm

re: #80 JohnAdams

New Rules!

Don't we need Bill Maher to make it official?

/sarc

92 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:33pm

re: #75 Dianna

I was thinking of these comments too:

I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility... for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it!

And:

Don't you see the danger, John, inherent in what you're doing here? Genetic power is the most awesome force the planet's ever witnessed, yet you wield it like a kid that's found his dad's gun

93 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:46pm

re: #84 unclassifiable

Happy thought!

The august halls of Congress, filled with scurrying politicians, hotly pursued by annoyed crabs!

Better yet, hotly pursued by annoyed constituents!

94 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:26:57pm

re: #87 A Kiwi Infidel

I am surprised you had the choice. Surely the options would be

Messianic
Amazingly Incredible
Excellent
Pretty bloody good
wash your mouth out with soap.

Assuming my vote was actually tabulated is a big reach.

95 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:16pm

Let's make this a philosophy thread.

OK. Question: If a flatus were to drift into an empty forest, would it still smell good to its owner?

96 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:34pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Well, you could say that Obama is half of a horse. The back half, that is.

Ah say, Ah say, that lad is the south end of a north bound mule.

97 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:38pm

re: #84 unclassifiable

You know there may be some redeeming qualities in these crabs.

Can they be trained to only attack politicians?

They were being slated to, uh, work on Detroit...

98 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:39pm

re: #92 Sharmuta

Indeed.

Those were taken straight from the book, and I wonder if MC didn't think pretty seriously about those points.

99 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:28:42pm

re: #78 JohnAdams

Jaysus...just voted "Poor" and found that 59% of my fellow citizens say "Excellent" or "Good." Inherent flaw of Democracy.

Well, not really, just 59% of CNN.com visitors. And considering that CNN.com is a left-wing Obamamania site that was visited mainly by mindless Obamatons just a few short months ago, I'd call that progress.

100 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:29:01pm

re: #95 karmic_inquisitor

Asian or european flatus?

101 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:29:17pm

re: #84 unclassifiable

You know there may be some redeeming qualities in these crabs.

Can they be trained to only attack politicians?

Maybe. We could start a collection to have their inventor send 50 of them to DC. Then have Obama give a speech to welcome them...

/kidding

102 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:12pm

re: #90 ArchangelMichael

I'm surprised that MSNBS didn't memory hole it.

It was weird, wasn't it?

My guess is that poll somehow got put on the Luap Nor hit list. No internet poll could survive that. Maybe they'll get word of this CNN one too.

103 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:17pm

re: #94 JohnAdams

Assuming my vote was actually tabulated is a big reach.


it's down to 30%

104 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:20pm

re: #100 jaunte

Asian or european flatus?

Hmmmmm. I had not considered the framing of the question on cultural lines.

I hope this doesn't start a frame war.

105 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:30:48pm

re: #95 karmic_inquisitor

Let's make this a philosophy thread.

OK. Question: If a flatus were to drift into an empty forest, would it still smell good to its owner?

If Earth Firsters wail in the forest and no one is there to laugh at them, is it still funny?

106 pat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:31:32pm

Hmmmm. I would love those boiled and served with Mayo.

107 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:31:34pm

re: #98 Dianna

Indeed.

Those were taken straight from the book, and I wonder if MC didn't think pretty seriously about those points.

Oh- I think the entire story hinges on those two points. (Haven't read the book, but it's certainly true of the movie)

108 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:31:56pm

re: #65 Cognito

You don't offend me. You amuse me. I like watching you squirm when you are called on your B.S. Are you sure that you are just a shill for the MSM and not a career politician?

109 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:32:05pm

I think the real hero in Jurassic Park was the lawyer.

110 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:32:37pm

re: #104 karmic_inquisitor

Hmmmmm. I had not considered the framing of the question on cultural lines.

I hope this doesn't start a frame war.

Are you feeling some gilt?

111 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:32:38pm

re: #107 Sharmuta

Oh- I think the entire story hinges on those two points. (Haven't read the book, but it's certainly true of the movie)

Excellent read.

112 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:33:12pm

re: #108 Bubblehead II

Right you are. Moving on.

113 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:33:59pm

So.

Girl Scout Cookies.

Got a case on Monday. They are now all gone.

So goes the annual Girl Scout Cookie ritual in the Karmic Lair.

114 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:25pm

re: #100 jaunte

Asian or european flatus?

Are farts lumpy?

115 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:31pm

re: #108 Bubblehead II

You don't offend me. You amuse me. I like watching you squirm when you are called on your B.S. Are you sure that you are just a shill for the MSM and not a career politician?

re: #112 Cognito

Right you are. Moving on.

[facepalm] I tried.

116 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:41pm

re: #111 Bobblehead

I'm so far behind on my reading list, it's not funny. Then another book pops up and I can't wait to read it and it jumps ahead of other books on the list and I'm still behind! It doesn't help that I took a break from my heavier reading to re-enjoy the Potter books at Christmas and LOTR after that. Oh, well. It was a great break with great books.

117 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:34:45pm

re: #113 karmic_inquisitor

So.

Girl Scout Cookies.

Got a case on Monday. They are now all gone.

So goes the annual Girl Scout Cookie ritual in the Karmic Lair.

You eat cookies like I drink beer.

118 yesandno  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:35:14pm

re: #110 Cognito

Are you feeling some gilt?

Are you refering to the fact that karmic_inquisitor is golden?

/"better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt." Sure that applies to blogging as well.

119 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:35:29pm

My apologies to Tennesseans but...

... one of my favorite Onion articles of all time.

/The Onion scrubbed that one from the archives

120 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:35:29pm

re: #92 Sharmuta

I was thinking of these comments too:

A theme which goes back to Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley.

121 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:35:36pm

re: #113 karmic_inquisitor

So.

Girl Scout Cookies.

Got a case on Monday. They are now all gone.

So goes the annual Girl Scout Cookie ritual in the Karmic Lair.

Your favorite? Mine are Samoas with the ever popular Thin Mints a close second.

122 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:36:09pm

re: #118 yesandno

Are you refering to the fact that karmic_inquisitor is golden?

Or is k_i molesting British treasury bills again?

123 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:36:11pm

re: #114 Walter L. Newton

Gravy is lumpyImage: Lumpy_Gravy.jpg

124 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:36:18pm

re: #113 karmic_inquisitor

So.

Girl Scout Cookies.

Got a case on Monday. They are now all gone.

So goes the annual Girl Scout Cookie ritual in the Karmic Lair.

Dang. I ordered three boxes at least two months ago. No delivery yet.

125 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:02pm

re: #118 yesandno

Are you refering to the fact that karmic_inquisitor is golden?

/"better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt." Sure that applies to blogging as well.

Hmm. If you're joining in the pun-fest, I think I've missed it.

126 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:18pm

re: #114 Walter L. Newton

Are farts lumpy?

I think we are going to stop that thought right there!

127 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:25pm

re: #86 razorbacker

'By their works ye shall know them.'

Obama victory bash owes city $1.74 mil.

So- check carefully documents about the fucking party. . .BUT that spend stim spend?

Push it through on a wing and a pig's ear. . .Farkin hell

128 unclassifiable  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:26pm

re: #93 Dianna

Politicians hotly pursued by annoyed constituents riding giant acid spitting crabs.

/better stop before I get the 3 AM knock

129 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:43pm

re: #120 jcm

Shelley.

Why, thank you, don't mind if I do.

/hat tip: Monty Python

130 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:47pm

re: #78 JohnAdams

Jaysus...just voted "Poor" and found that 59% of my fellow citizens say "Excellent" or "Good." Inherent flaw of Democracy.

Yeah but you can reload the page and vote again.

Over and over and over.

131 yesandno  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:37:58pm

re: #125 Cognito

Hmm. If you're joining in the pun-fest, I think I've missed it.

As you did on the original post....

132 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:38:09pm

re: #124 JohnAdams

Dang. I ordered three boxes at least two months ago. No delivery yet.

I bought a bunch for Operation Cookie Drop.

133 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:38:18pm

re: #116 Sharmuta

I'm so far behind on my reading list, it's not funny. Then another book pops up and I can't wait to read it and it jumps ahead of other books on the list and I'm still behind! It doesn't help that I took a break from my heavier reading to re-enjoy the Potter books at Christmas and LOTR after that. Oh, well. It was a great break with great books.

Reading, reading. Just keep reading.

134 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:38:41pm

re: #131 yesandno

As you did on the original post....

Sorry. Which are you referring to?

135 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:39:11pm

re: #5 jcm

Why when I read the headline did I have a sudden itch in particular area?

*moving quickly to the FAR side of the room*

136 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:39:20pm

re: #129 Occasional Reader

Why, thank you, don't mind if I do.

/hat tip: Monty Python

LOL!

Nice grips BTW.

You've about convinced me a Kimber will be my next acquisition.

137 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:39:24pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

All "Jurassic Park" demonstrated was that a nature park with a combination of corrupt technicians and poor fencing is going to to fail. The fact that this particular nature reserve contained dinosaurs is irrelevant. Better fencing, decent staff - problem solved.

138 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:39:54pm

re: #33 Zimriel

I wasted pretty much the whole evening at [Link: www.newgrounds.com....] All thanks to PZ "pharyngula" Myers... who sent me hither.

narwhals! narwhals...

My all-time favorite movie at Newgrounds (first saw this soon after 9/11:

Diplomacy

139 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:07pm

re: #132 jcm

Just in for a moment --
th' heck with your turtles, it's gonna be crabs all the way up!

140 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:17pm

re: #132 jcm

I bought a bunch for Operation Cookie Drop.

Very cool. I will order up ten more for the fighting men and women.

141 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:25pm

re: #135 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*moving quickly to the FAR side of the room*

You can tell GOTC you've found a new use for a cat.

142 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:40pm

re: #121 Bobblehead

Your favorite? Mine are Samoas with the ever popular Thin Mints a close second.

Thin Mints.

143 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:47pm

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

144 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:40:55pm

re: #136 jcm

LOL!

Nice grips BTW.

You've about convinced me a Kimber will be my next acquisition.

Good - they're just the greatest.

145 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:41:25pm

re: #137 Jimmah

All "Jurassic Park" demonstrated was that a nature park with a combination of corrupt technicians and poor fencing is going to to fail. The fact that this particular nature reserve contained dinosaurs is irrelevant. Better fencing, decent staff - problem solved.

LOL!

146 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:41:33pm

re: #136 jcm

LOL!

Nice grips BTW.

You've about convinced me a Kimber will be my next acquisition.

Excellent. Buy American.

147 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:41:42pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Everyone's got the giant crabs but we're donating Thin Mints to the troops!

148 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:41:47pm

re: #136 jcm

LOL!

Nice grips BTW.

You've about convinced me a Kimber will be my next acquisition.

I really like my Tactical.

149 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:02pm

re: #119 unclassifiable

My apologies to Tennesseans but...

... one of my favorite Onion articles of all time.

/The Onion scrubbed that one from the archives

They scrubbed this one too, but thankfully restored it: Everyone Involved In Pizza's Preparation, Delivery, Purchase Extremely High

150 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:08pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Hi, rw - I'm doing great, and I am talking about nothing of consequence.

151 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:08pm

re: #136 jcm

LOL!

Nice grips BTW.

You've about convinced me a Kimber will be my next acquisition.

I don't like the fact that you can't use SD cards with it and you are stuck with the 2 gigs that are built in.

Bad move, IMHO.

152 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:50pm

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

But it does come with two magazines.

153 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:55pm

re: #137 Jimmah

All "Jurassic Park" demonstrated was that a nature park with a combination of corrupt technicians and poor fencing is going to to fail. The fact that this particular nature reserve contained dinosaurs is irrelevant. Better fencing, decent staff - problem solved.

Also, as a backup plan, more guns. Street sweepers loaded with 000 buck for the raptors, and a couple of those .700 Nitro rifles available for the T.Rex.

154 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:56pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Realwest! Hope you are doing great..Leno is really funny tonight!
/ok..the writers

155 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:42:57pm

re: #141 jcm

TH' PAIN!
Lemme crawl up off th' floor!
*GASP*
That was hilarious!

156 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:07pm

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

I don't like the fact that you can't use SD cards with it and you are stuck with the 2 gigs that are built in.

Bad move, IMHO.

Spoken as a true techy!

157 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:12pm

re: #134 Cognito

Sorry. Which are you referring to?

Cognito, cool it! There must something wrong with you today. Bringing up that that thread is like a button that has "push this button and you will be shocked" written on it. Most people would stop pushing the button after they get jolted two or three times, but you just keep right on pushing away.

158 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:13pm

re: #131 yesandno

As you did on the original post....

Paraphrased from Galaxy Quest-

Yesandno: I will just go and reason with the Cogulan

Crew Member Red Shirt Sixma: Do you even READ the posts? Sure, he seems rational now, but soon, he'll start asking questions about things you never posted, make you quote things that he will ignore. . .and then, the worst part. . . .

Phaser blast

hey, I WAS a red shirt. . .

Do NOT enter into a blog post with Cog without checking your sanity at the door

159 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:16pm

re: #146 Occasional Reader

Excellent. Buy American.

Springfield.
Smith & Wesson.
Have been my new purchases.

160 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:33pm

re: #152 jaunte

But it does come with two magazines.

Which ones? I thought you can order what you want?

161 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:36pm

re: #152 jaunte

But it does come with two magazines.

Hey! I only got one!

I had to buy my extras.

162 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:39pm

re: #148 OldLineTexan

I really like my Tactical.

I prefer the upgraded line, the Strategic.

/sniff

163 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:47pm

re: #147 JohnAdams
Uh, I don't have crabs, Giant or otherwise, but I like the idea of sending thin mints (Girl Scout, right?) or Samoa's to the troops!
Where do I sign up?!

164 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:43:56pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?


Real! {RW}

165 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:33pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Cognito, cool it! There must something wrong with you today. Bringing up that that thread is like a button that has "push this button and you will be shocked" written on it. Most people would stop pushing the button after they get jolted two or three times, but you just keep right on pushing away.

What on earth are you talking about?

Seriously. Enough of this crap. Someone made a comment about a "frame war" -- a pun -- and so in like form I made a post about "feeling gilt."

How on earth, I ask you, is that offensive?

166 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:35pm

re: #161 Dianna

By the way, I picked up a very lightly used Eclipse of my own very recently.

167 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:35pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Cognito is being his usual contrary self.

168 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:39pm

re: #150 Dianna
Hi Diannah - glad to hear you're feeling great! And you always have something to say of consequence, so c'mon, GIVE!
:)

169 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:41pm

re: #161 Dianna

Hey! I only got one!

I had to buy my extras.

Mine only came with one, which I found a little annoying.

170 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:45pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Crabs, (but don't tell your mom.)

171 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:44:58pm

I thought the point of Jurassic Park was to always keep a T Rex handy.

172 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:45:31pm

re: #162 Occasional Reader

I prefer the upgraded line, the Strategic.

/sniff

Here, have some of my meltaway zinc tabs. And a tissue.

/

173 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:45:39pm

re: #159 jcm

Springfield.
Smith & Wesson.
Have been my new purchases.

Lots of Springfields these days appear to be made in Brazil.

(Not that I have anything against Brazil, mind you... heavens, no.)

174 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:45:45pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

Well, you missed an in depth discussion on the topic of facial skin care on the last thread. I know, I know. You'll never forgive yourself for signing in so late. We can sum up if you'd like.
I'll let Sharm give you the rest of the skinny.

175 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:45:54pm

re: #165 Cognito

What on earth are you talking about?

Seriously. Enough of this crap. Someone made a comment about a "frame war" -- a pun -- and so in like form I made a post about "feeling gilt."

How on earth, I ask you, is that offensive?

There you go, starting an argument again.

176 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:03pm

re: #166 jaunte

By the way, I picked up a very lightly used Eclipse of my own very recently.

Ooooh! Good for you!

How do you like it?

177 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:08pm

Dr. Mordock needs to invent giant vats of genetically engineered sauce next.

178 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:14pm

re: #165 Cognito

What on earth are you talking about?

Seriously. Enough of this crap. Someone made a comment about a "frame war" -- a pun -- and so in like form I made a post about "feeling gilt."

How on earth, I ask you, is that offensive?

You weren't being offensive. I'm sorry, I just got irked and lost my temper.

179 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:15pm

re: #154 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! Well Leno has a pretty fair staff of "crack joke writers" (as the late, great Johnny Carson called them) but he does have a great delivery!
Is he telling any jokes about Obama yet?

180 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:15pm

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

It's apparently easy to do.

181 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:19pm

re: #109 Occasional Reader

I think the real hero in Jurassic Park was the lawyer.

I can't believe no-one's linked this yet.

182 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:19pm

OK ok I assume the requisite case of the crabs jokes have been made?

183 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:22pm

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Crabs, (but don't tell your mom.)

I really, really hope these giant crabs aren't sexually transmitted.

184 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:22pm

Kinda disappointed there's been no thread (that I know of) regarding Marie Antoinette's abuse of the military with her asswit exploitation of the government supplied private airplane. And she's busting the chops of actual qualified American CEOs? We should have an LGF Bust-Up-Nancy Pelosi Day.

185 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:46:55pm

re: #155 pre-Boomer Marine brat

TH' PAIN!
Lemme crawl up off th' floor!
*GASP*
That was hilarious!

I always knew the durn things had to be good fer sumthing.

186 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:03pm

re: #176 Dianna

It's very smooth, almost broken in already when I bought it and 4 mags.

187 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:14pm

re: #161 Dianna

Hey! I only got one!

I had to buy my extras.

I got a bargain model ... some classy person took the Kimber mag out of the box. I have some Wilson Combats and some cheapies ... so far, no issues. I have not been brave enough to cram any of my $5 GI wonderment mags in it, though.

188 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:17pm

re: #182 LudwigVanQuixote

OK ok I assume the requisite case of the crabs jokes have been made?

Don't let that stop you.
/didn't stop me when I came in a minute ago

189 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:23pm

re: #107 Sharmuta

Oh- I think the entire story hinges on those two points. (Haven't read the book, but it's certainly true of the movie)

Its worth the read.

Good for when you want a break from the serious without wonder to far into the frivolous.

190 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:32pm

re: #164 DisturbedEma
Hi {DisturbedEma} - how are ya tonight?

191 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:32pm

re: #168 realwest

Hi Diannah - glad to hear you're feeling great! And you always have something to say of consequence, so c'mon, GIVE!
:)

While chatting here, I wrote three pages of my re-write. This means that my brain is wrung out, and I'm living in two worlds at once.

But I got lots of help on skin care routines from the lady lizards, and some folks mentioned some make up ideas that I shall use.

Otherwise, I got nuthin'!

192 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:35pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Not a problem. I will not attempt provoke him further. Since his firs/last banning he isn't any fun anymore anyway.

193 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:47:36pm

Where are the crews from the Deadliest Catch when they're needed?
Sig Hansen and the Hillstrand brothers could handle these crabs!

194 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:02pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

I really, really hope these giant crabs aren't sexually transmitted.

I ain't touchin' that!

195 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:04pm

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Lots of Springfields these days appear to be made in Brazil.

(Not that I have anything against Brazil, mind you... heavens, no.)

I only buy original Springfield. It's a little large for a pistol ...
/

196 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:04pm

re: #143 realwest

Good evening y'all - how is everyone and what are we talking about?

It started as a crab bisque stirred with a CNN poll which was soon transformed into Borscht and then someone farted in a forest and Girl Scout Cookies appeared. All while vague recollections of the prior thread came forward and receded, adding to the surrealism.

197 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:05pm

re: #190 realwest

Hi {DisturbedEma} - how are ya tonight?


Twins just got over their colds. . .I am ragged! You? How are you, sweetie?

198 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:15pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

No problem at all.

I'm fresh out of 'frame' puns anyway.

199 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:16pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

LOL!

I'm (kinda) serious! LOL

nite all.

200 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:30pm

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Mine only came with one, which I found a little annoying.

Yes, it seems wrong, somehow, to spend over $1000 for a gun and get one lousy magazine. My nasty cheapo Ruger came with two.

201 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:40pm

re: #185 jcm

I always knew the durn things had to be good fer sumthing.

Is she in the room?
Has she seen that?
*gasp gasp*

202 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:40pm

re: #193 Kosh's Shadow

Where are the crews from the Deadliest Catch when they're needed?
Sig Hansen and the Hillstrand brothers could handle these crabs!

Sig would definitely put the smack on 'em.

203 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:43pm

re: #147 JohnAdams

Everyone's got the giant crabs but we're donating Thin Mints to the troops!

Whoops..against the rules to send chocolate overseas to the troops..
But..I can post everything you can send them.. And if you go to the post office you can buy those boxes for 8.95 and stuff them as heavy as you want to send to Iraq. or anywhere..When our boy was in Iraq we sent a package every other day..Soon we got an email..For God's sakes tell mom to stop sending me underwear! please!
You run out of ideas to send after a while..but never love...

204 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:50pm

re: #177 EmmmieG

Dr. Mordock needs to invent giant vats of genetically engineered sauce next.

No, next he needs to invent a ray gun that will stop Barack Obama from acting like a fool. It'll be the most powerful weapon in the world. It would be called the Clue Ray.

205 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:48:56pm

re: #174 Bobblehead

Well, you missed an in depth discussion on the topic of facial skin care on the last thread. I know, I know. You'll never forgive yourself for signing in so late. We can sum up if you'd like.
I'll let Sharm give you the rest of the skinny.


?!?

206 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:49:01pm

re: #192 Bubblehead II

Not a problem. I will not attempt provoke him further. Since his firs/last banning he isn't any fun anymore anyway.

Oh, come now. I'm the same boy I've always been.

207 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:49:11pm

re: #155 pre-Boomer Marine brat

TH' PAIN!
Lemme crawl up off th' floor!
*GASP*
That was hilarious!

Criminy...

208 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:49:37pm

re: #189 Syrah

Its worth the read.

Good for when you want a break from the serious without wonder to far into the frivolous.

I'm more of a non-fiction girl, so a lot of books like Jurassic Park just never make my reading list. I find reality is often stranger than fiction. But if I ever get caught up, I'll check it out.

209 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:49:41pm

re: #186 jaunte

It's very smooth, almost broken in already when I bought it and 4 mags.

How are you liking the trigger action? After my Ruger, it was such a pleasure to have that light pull, and the increase in accuracy was noticeable.

210 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:49:52pm

re: #187 OldLineTexan

I got a bargain model ... some classy person took the Kimber mag out of the box. I have some Wilson Combats and some cheapies ... so far, no issues. I have not been brave enough to cram any of my $5 GI wonderment mags in it, though.

I think putting bad mags in a good pistol is like putting cheap tires on a Porsche. Kind of defeats the purpose. Stick to the Wilsons. (High end Kimber mags are also really nice.)

211 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:50:18pm

re: #185 jcm

I always knew the durn things had to be good fer sumthing.


Mad cat (Burger and Fries)


212 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:50:30pm

re: #171 Sharmuta

I thought the point of Jurassic Park was to always keep a T Rex handy.

To what end?


213 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:50:45pm

re: #163 realwest

Uh, I don't have crabs, Giant or otherwise, but I like the idea of sending thin mints (Girl Scout, right?) or Samoa's to the troops!
Where do I sign up?!

See post #140, sir.

214 yesandno  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:50:52pm

re: #165 Cognito

What on earth are you talking about?

Seriously. Enough of this crap. Someone made a comment about a "frame war" -- a pun -- and so in like form I made a post about "feeling gilt."
How on earth, I ask you, is that offensive?

Golden, just golden.....

215 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:51:03pm

re: #207 JohnAdams

Criminy...

Go back up and look at the video jcm tossed at me.
(It's in the context of goddess' and my cat-versus-dog "fights")

216 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:51:18pm

re: #184 JohnAdams
Hey, I'll drink (soda) to That. Bitch wants one of 5 G-5 USAF "luxury jets" ON MEMORIAL DAY - ya know, cause she supports the troops - perish forbid any injured or incapcitated Troops get to ride in that luxury jet.
Bitch.

217 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:51:36pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

I really, really hope these giant crabs aren't sexually transmitted.

That thought had not even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind.

218 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:52:18pm

re: #217 Dianna

That thought had not even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind.

It obviously was a job meant for a sharmuta. ;)

219 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:52:24pm

re: #216 realwest

Hey, I'll drink (soda) to That. Bitch wants one of 5 G-5 USAF "luxury jets" ON MEMORIAL DAY - ya know, cause she supports the troops - perish forbid any injured or incapcitated Troops get to ride in that luxury jet.
Bitch.

I'm sure she penned one in for herself in the new spending bill she has in the pipeline

220 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:52:35pm

re: #201 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is she in the room?
Has she seen that?
*gasp gasp*

You can have all the honors!

221 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:52:41pm

re: #105 Radicchio ad Absurdum

If Earth Firsters wail in the forest and no one is there to laugh at them, is it still funny?


This is serious right? Crikey, I thought this was a set up. Nutters, stark raving nutjobs

222 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:53:09pm

re: #179 realwest

Hi ya Hoops! Well Leno has a pretty fair staff of "crack joke writers" (as the late, great Johnny Carson called them) but he does have a great delivery!
Is he telling any jokes about Obama yet?

No..not about Obama yet..I'll need to call Buzzsawmonkey..I know a limo driver that claims he lives on the upper east side and is chief of staff for the tonight show's Jay Leno staff..Let him deny it all he wants..It's all a ruse.. *wink*

223 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:53:10pm

re: #214 yesandno

Golden, just golden.....

I saw that, yes, but to be honest it's not really a pun...

224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:53:16pm

I'll side with the squirrel carrying the violin case on this one.

225 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:53:38pm

re: #196 karmic_inquisitor

It started as a crab bisque stirred with a CNN poll which was soon transformed into Borscht and then someone farted in a forest and Girl Scout Cookies appeared. All while vague recollections of the prior thread came forward and receded, adding to the surrealism.


Adding to the surrealism? Whoa, those musta been some really good mushrooms y'all was eating before you got to the crab bisque etc! LOL!

226 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:53:44pm

re: #210 Occasional Reader

I think putting bad mags in a good pistol is like putting cheap tires on a Porsche. Kind of defeats the purpose. Stick to the Wilsons. (High end Kimber mags are also really nice.)

The $5 GI mags are V-N issue ... they are the real deal. However, since they lack all the bumpers and stuff, I have hesitated to ram them in.

But I do really enjoy the way the Wilson Combats leap outta that magazine well ...

227 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:02pm

re: #209 Dianna
Feels quite smooth to me, but the only thing I had to compare it to was my father's Springfield.

228 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:24pm

re: #197 DisturbedEma
I'm doing ok, thanks - glad to hear that the twins are over whatever they had - bet you'll sleep well tonight!

229 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:34pm

re: #221 A Kiwi Infidel

This is serious right? Crikey, I thought this was a set up. Nutters, stark raving nutjobs

They take themselves seriously, yes . . .Me? Not so much.

230 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:37pm

re: #203 HoosierHoops

Whoops..against the rules to send chocolate overseas to the troops..
But..I can post everything you can send them.. And if you go to the post office you can buy those boxes for 8.95 and stuff them as heavy as you want to send to Iraq. or anywhere..When our boy was in Iraq we sent a package every other day..Soon we got an email..For God's sakes tell mom to stop sending me underwear! please!
You run out of ideas to send after a while..but never love...

Thanks! I will follow the channels. I've heard the troops like flea collars (seriously). That right?

231 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:47pm

re: #210 Occasional Reader

I think putting bad mags in a good pistol is like putting cheap tires on a Porsche. Kind of defeats the purpose. Stick to the Wilsons. (High end Kimber mags are also really nice.)

I've never had a misfeed. Over-enthusiastic ejection of the brass, yes, but never a misfeed.

232 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:48pm

re: #181 Zimriel

I can't believe no-one's linked this yet.

How about "White and Nerdy"

bonus points to anyone who can name the equation in the background when he's dancing. It's actually a real equation.

233 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:54:59pm

re: #184 JohnAdams

Kinda disappointed there's been no thread (that I know of) regarding Marie Antoinette's abuse of the military with her asswit exploitation of the government supplied private airplane. And she's busting the chops of actual qualified American CEOs? We should have an LGF Bust-Up-Nancy Pelosi Day.

A web seat on C-130 will cure here PDQ.

234 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:55:14pm

Has anyone posted the links that IF posted in the previous thread?

235 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:55:22pm

re: #184 JohnAdams

Kinda disappointed there's been no thread (that I know of) regarding Marie Antoinette's abuse of the military with her asswit exploitation of the government supplied private airplane. And she's busting the chops of actual qualified American CEOs? We should have an LGF Bust-Up-Nancy Pelosi Day.

I recall a story about a guy called...razorfronter...who, seeing 6 nice bucks flushed from a thicket that wasn't supposed to hold but one, was unable to chose just one target and thus missed all targets.

Give it time, her turn will come.

236 esch  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:55:22pm

re: #221 A Kiwi Infidel

This is serious right? Crikey, I thought this was a set up. Nutters, stark raving nutjobs

I tell them 'You're perfectly free to go live naked in teh forest if you want. Just give me your stuff first."

237 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:55:56pm

re: #200 Dianna
Are you kidding me - you spent over a GRAND for a 1911 model .45 caliber pistol? Regardless of who made it or what the grips are like, that's waaay too much dinero to spend on a handgun!

238 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:04pm

re: #224 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'll side with the squirrel carrying the violin case on this one.

Always a wise decision!

239 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:17pm

re: #234 MandyManners

*WHACK*

240 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:21pm

re: #232 LudwigVanQuixote

How about "White and Nerdy"


[Video]

bonus points to anyone who can name the equation in the background when he's dancing. It's actually a real equation.

Schrödinger equation IIRC my quantum.

241 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:23pm

re: #215 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Go back up and look at the video jcm tossed at me.
(It's in the context of goddess' and my cat-versus-dog "fights")

I did see it! Hilarious. Did you happen to pick up which language that was in?

242 yesandno  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:25pm

re: #221 A Kiwi Infidel

This is serious right? Crikey, I thought this was a set up. Nutters, stark raving nutjobs

Have no fear, the screams attracted the bears and they are now a part of nature....

243 Irish Rose  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:27pm

Good evening, lizards!

Just in from a pleasant night at the pub and my traditional Irish music session, where I spent the evening sipping good hard cider and grinding out tunes. We had some surprise guests drop in tonight around 8pm, the good folks from Beoga.

Beoga is currently one of the top Irish trad bands in the world, and they're in town to perform at our pub tomorrow night. They decided to show up an evening early to join in the session, and we jammed with them for over two hours. I even spent some time rubbing shoulders with Damian McKee, one of the top button accordion players in Ireland.

The entire evening was just f*cking brilliant, what an awesome experience.

So... we're talking about crabs tonight, eh?

244 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:30pm

re: #220 jcm

You can have all the honors!

I just got the youtube link and saved it.
Thanks! I owe you for a couple of em now!

245 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:40pm

re: #205 realwest

?!?

It was decided a simple skin care regimen seems to be favored by most lady lizards. Stay out of the sun and don't run your moped off a cliff, thus requiring emergency dermabrasion. Oh and there was a discussion between Sharm and Cog. I was a little late to that thread so I can't speak to all the details.

246 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:50pm

re: #203 HoosierHoops
Huh? Why is it against the rules to send chocolate to the troops?

247 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:56:52pm

re: #227 jaunte

Feels quite smooth to me, but the only thing I had to compare it to was my father's Springfield.

Well, have fun. I adore my Eclipse.

248 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:57:10pm

re: #239 MandyManners

*WHACK*


Self abuse will not be tolerated.

249 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:57:41pm

re: #242 yesandno

Have no fear, the screams attracted the bears and they are now a part of nature....


We are back to lumpy farts again, are we?

250 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:57:48pm

Good night.

251 Zimriel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:57:52pm

re: #232 LudwigVanQuixote

How about "White and Nerdy"
[embedding disabled by request]
bonus points to anyone who can name the equation in the background when he's dancing. It's actually a real equation.

All About The Pentiums is classic too. It's been on rotation for me since a decade ago.

252 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:19pm

re: #246 realwest

Huh? Why is it against the rules to send chocolate to the troops?

It melts...makes your uniform all yucky, and it's hell on the receiver group on your M-16...)

253 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:21pm

re: #240 jcm

Schrödinger equation IIRC my quantum.

You rock! That would be the radial form of the equation! You sir get to hang with the uber nerds!

254 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:26pm

re: #216 realwest

Hey, I'll drink (soda) to That. Bitch wants one of 5 G-5 USAF "luxury jets" ON MEMORIAL DAY - ya know, cause she supports the troops - perish forbid any injured or incapcitated Troops get to ride in that luxury jet.
Bitch.

That bitch and her husband have more money than most countries. She's an asshole without a body.

255 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:28pm

re: #238 Dianna

Always a wise decision!

*genuflections*
*grovelling*

256 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:42pm

re: #247 Dianna

Thanks. Next step is concealed carry permit.

257 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:58:53pm

re: #241 JohnAdams

I did see it! Hilarious. Did you happen to pick up which language that was in?

No. I haven't any idea.

258 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:59:20pm

re: #213 JohnAdams
Cool - but PLEASE stop calling me sir!

259 esch  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:59:32pm

re: #239 MandyManners

*WHACK*

Self abuse.

Shweet.

260 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:59:33pm

re: #243 Irish Rose


Good for you. So, you'll be on a high? Just dont let no troll come along and stuff it all up for you.

261 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 8:59:54pm

re: #239 MandyManners

*WHACK*

That will make you go blind.

/so I was told

262 Bobblehead  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:15pm

re: #254 JohnAdams

That bitch and her husband have more money than most countries. She's an asshole without a body.

OH boy, that whole thing really pisses me off. Can you imagine the stink if that had been a Republican?

263 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:16pm

re: #253 LudwigVanQuixote

You rock! That would be the radial form of the equation! You sir get to hang with the uber nerds!

I practically had to tattoo equations on my eyelids to make it through.

264 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:18pm

re: #237 realwest

Are you kidding me - you spent over a GRAND for a 1911 model .45 caliber pistol? Regardless of who made it or what the grips are like, that's waaay too much dinero to spend on a handgun!

As before noted, I'd have to develop a better class of enemy, as none of the current crop deserve to be shot with so fine a weapon.

265 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:18pm

re: #237 realwest

Are you kidding me - you spent over a GRAND for a 1911 model .45 caliber pistol? Regardless of who made it or what the grips are like, that's waaay too much dinero to spend on a handgun!

Not after you've shot it. Trust me, I used to think the same way, until the day I fired a Kimber.

I used to pine like a puppy over it in the display case. The day I got it, though it had to stay at the store until the next week, they let me take it on the range, and I shot extraordinarily well, even for me. It was the first time I took my Male to the range with me (we'd only been dating a week at that point), and I think I impressed him.

25 yards, and you could cover the group with your fist. That was my first time out with my Kimber.

It was worth every penny.

266 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:36pm

re: #261 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That will make you go blind.

/so I was told


You cant kid me, you have a braille keyboard, right?

267 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:42pm

re: #206 Cognito

This is true. Egotistical and evasive as ever. But you still refuse to answer a direct question. Just for the record. Are you a shill for the msm or a politician?

/ Inquiring minds want to know

268 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:45pm

re: #235 razorbacker

I recall a story about a guy called...razorfronter...who, seeing 6 nice bucks flushed from a thicket that wasn't supposed to hold but one, was unable to chose just one target and thus missed all targets.

Give it time, her turn will come.

An apt metaphor, sir.

269 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:52pm

re: #259 esch

Self abuse.

Shweet.


The threads have been a little goofy tonight, first we had the saber saw sex toy accident and now more self abuse...

I was not aware of the D/s dimension here...

:)

270 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:00:52pm

re: #208 Sharmuta

I'm more of a non-fiction girl, so a lot of books like Jurassic Park just never make my reading list. I find reality is often stranger than fiction. But if I ever get caught up, I'll check it out.

My taste range very wide. I am getting more discriminating as I get older. It becomes more and more a mater of what do I have time to indulge myself with.

Fiction is nice for escape and distraction when the cares of the day get rough and intense, or for when for sanities sake I just have to step back from the screaming cacophony of the world for a timeout.

I just received my copy of the Conflict of Visions so that is what I will be dedicating the next couple of days to. It is not the type of book that is for fast reading. I find myself stopping in parts to think about the implications of what he is saying. Its the kind of book the reminds of my days back in college where I would have to read through a book once quickly and then twice again slowly to savor its full flavor.

271 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:01:00pm

re: #237 realwest

Are you kidding me - you spent over a GRAND for a 1911 model .45 caliber pistol? Regardless of who made it or what the grips are like, that's waaay too much dinero to spend on a handgun!

Eh, mine was $800, but someone had swiped the magazine out of the case.

And I will have to respectfully disagree. An upper-end Kimber is fitted and tricked out very close to a custom pistol ... and a real custom 1911 will run you $2K and up.

Quality firearms are worth the money. One good pistol is better than four cheap ones.

272 Ateam  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:01:09pm

Must tell the truth - never eating crabs in my life. But on d other side - never consumer what yo called serials 4 breakfast. Nor the horrible england form of nourishing' at morning, with potatoes & some meat-lefts-packed-down-horizontal.

Sausages? Hot-Dogs barking amid sun rising? Blind tarantula dancing naked at Madagascar shore?

273 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:01:15pm

re: #266 A Kiwi Infidel

You cant kid me, you have a braille keyboard, right?

And a Braille Screen.........(falls off chair at own joke)

[time to go home]

274 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:01:22pm

re: #248 A Kiwi Infidel

Self abuse will not be tolerated.

But it will be graded.

275 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:01:37pm

re: #263 jcm

I practically had to tattoo equations on my eyelids to make it through.


Lol, I remember studying for my qualifier... I still have nightmares.

276 yesandno  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:07pm

re: #223 Cognito

I saw that, yes, but to be honest it's not really a pun...

You assumed it was a pun. I wasn't on any other thread this evening, was just commenting on the post you made to k-i.


Now we know why, in the e'n'd, your name is Cognito and not Cogito.....

/punny now?

277 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:15pm

When I'm in doubt about the shit that life throws at me, I turn to THE MOST EXCELLENT PRE-POST-MODERN PHILOSOPHERS IN THE SOUTH.


278 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:19pm

re: #256 jaunte

Thanks. Next step is concealed carry permit.

Good luck on that. I live in the wrong county to even think about that.

279 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:21pm

re: #274 OldLineTexan

But it will be graded.

On a sliding scale
/S

280 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:24pm

re: #274 OldLineTexan

But it will be graded.


You're looking for a job in quality control, right?

There's one going at the "Brazillians R us" clinic down the road.

281 Cognito  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:29pm

re: #267 Bubblehead II

Ah, yes. "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

282 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:34pm

re: #243 Irish Rose

Warming up for The Great Day, March 17th.

283 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:42pm

re: #230 JohnAdams

Thanks! I will follow the channels. I've heard the troops like flea collars (seriously). That right?

OMG the stories we heard about those F'n sand fleas! You know what the Marines bought a ton of doing the Fallujah battle..Silly string..Could not get enough for the 3/5 Marines..we sent special packages.
The Marines would bust into an unknown doorway and spray it in the air..The string would land on the trip wires..and show them the trip wires..Saved alot of our Marines.

284 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:02:56pm

re: #266 A Kiwi Infidel

You cant kid me, you have a braille keyboard, right?

I'll not comment about that

/because the first three I thought of were ... well ... uh ... never mind

285 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:03pm

Lord, I can't change.

286 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:07pm

re: #275 LudwigVanQuixote

Lol, I remember studying for my qualifier... I still have nightmares.

My wife would say I would mumble in my sleep then suddenly stop. I'd wake up and be able to solve the problem I was working on.

Nightmares is right.

287 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:08pm

re: #277 MandyManners

When I'm in doubt about the shit that life throws at me, I turn to THE MOST EXCELLENT PRE-POST-MODERN PHILOSOPHERS IN THE SOUTH.


I'll have to come back on that.

Gotta go.

Night Lizards.........

288 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:17pm

re: #211 Dustyvet

Michelle? Is that you?

289 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:34pm

re: #252 Dustyvet
Huh. That's funny, I don't remember any Army issued chocolate EVER melting!

290 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:03:56pm

re: #269 LudwigVanQuixote

saber saw sex toy accident

WAAAHHHH!
I missed it!

291 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:04:15pm

re: #258 realwest

Cool - but PLEASE stop calling me sir!

I got ya'! It's outta respect, and habit. I'll stick with plain "real."

292 yesandno  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:04:15pm

re: #249 A Kiwi Infidel

We are back to lumpy farts again, are we?

I almost added that to the post....now I see, you got the message anyway! I live in the mountains of North Carolina and I am sure that is where this was filmed....and there are bears!

: )

293 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:04:54pm

re: #272 Ateam

Must tell the truth - never eating crabs in my life. But on d other side - never consumer what yo called serials 4 breakfast. Nor the horrible england form of nourishing' at morning, with potatoes & some meat-lefts-packed-down-horizontal.

Sausages? Hot-Dogs barking amid sun rising? Blind tarantula dancing naked at Madagascar shore?

Sweetie? We already have a resident mad genius incomprehensible blank-verse poet in residence.

(This is a joke.)

294 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:11pm

re: #287 A Kiwi Infidel

I'll have to come back on that.

Gotta go.

Night Lizards.........

Take care!

295 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:16pm

re: #290 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WAAAHHHH!
I missed it!

Unfortunately, it didn't miss her though which resulted in some interesting injuries.

296 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:17pm

re: #280 A Kiwi Infidel

You're looking for a job in quality control, right?

There's one going at the "Brazillians R us" clinic down the road.

Quality? I would rather die.

/really

297 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:20pm

re: #289 realwest

Army chocolate MELT? You could reinforce a building with that crap.

298 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:25pm

re: #286 jcm

My wife would say I would mumble in my sleep then suddenly stop. I'd wake up and be able to solve the problem I was working on.

Nightmares is right.

What was your field again JCM? Dear lord, I still do that!

299 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:33pm

re: #290 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WAAAHHHH!
I missed it!

Power tool sex toy lands woman in hospital

SOME sexual experimentation landed an American woman in a hospital with injuries tough to imagine and even more difficult to forget.

The Maryland woman was flown to hospital on Monday after she was injured in the incident involving a sex toy attached to a sabre saw blade, according to NBCWashington.com.

300 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:34pm

re: #270 Syrah

I'm almost through the evolution book I'm reading, and next I'm tackling Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative, which is a short read. Then I'll be on to the Sowell, so we can compare notes. There are a lot of books I'd like to reread, but if I did, I'd never get through my book list! Although I do know exactly what you mean. I gain more and more each time I reread the Potter books and LOTR. I know they're fiction, but they're so well written that you can pick up on things you missed the first time through, or the second or third time. To me, that's what makes a great book- you want to reread it again and again.

301 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:05:42pm

re: #290 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WAAAHHHH!
I missed it!


It's in the latest creationist thread.

302 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:03pm

re: #279 Dustyvet

On a sliding scale
/S

Not on the curve? I like being graded on the curve!

/oh, wait!

303 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:14pm

re: #298 LudwigVanQuixote

What was your field again JCM? Dear lord, I still do that!

My degree is Bio-Chem, but I work in EE designing test hardware.

304 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:14pm

re: #289 realwest

Huh. That's funny, I don't remember any Army issued chocolate EVER melting!

Not the army stuff, while i was in Vietnam, a friend sent me a box of Hershey Bars for Christmas, what she sent and what the Army Postal system deleivered...well you get the idea...:)

305 srb1976  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:19pm

re: #200 Dianna

Yes, it seems wrong, somehow, to spend over $1000 for a gun and get one lousy magazine. My nasty cheapo Ruger came with two.

What model Ruger.... I've been fairly happy with my P-90....something I should know?

306 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:34pm

re: #285 MandyManners

Lord, I can't change.

Many of us don't want you to- we like you the way you are.

307 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:39pm

re: #293 Dianna

Pardon me but, I like Ateam. Some power there.

308 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:06:46pm

re: #295 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Unfortunately, it didn't miss her though which resulted in some interesting injuries.

*covers eyes*
*starts to cover mouth ... but not quickly enough*

309 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:07:03pm

re: #246 realwest

Huh? Why is it against the rules to send chocolate to the troops?

oh real..No perishable foodstuffs can go overseas..We sent alot of canned tuna..lots of protein food..hard candies...I have the list I can email you..

310 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:07:26pm

re: #286 jcm

My wife would say I would mumble in my sleep then suddenly stop. I'd wake up and be able to solve the problem I was working on.

Nightmares is right.

I have anxiety dreams involving chorus lines of numbers.

It's not pretty.

311 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:07:35pm

re: #303 jcm

My degree is Bio-Chem, but I work in EE designing test hardware.


Ahhh, you know the difference between a physicist and an Engineer?

The engineer gets an extra zero on the paycheck...

312 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:07:52pm

re: #302 Dianna

Not on the curve? I like being graded on the curve!

/oh, wait!

Uhm uh, uh...er...Doh!

313 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:07:58pm

re: #304 Dustyvet

Not the army stuff, while i was in Vietnam, a friend sent me a box of Hershey Bars for Christmas, what she sent and what the Army Postal system deleivered...well you get the idea...:)

Reminds me that when my father was in WWII, because he didn't smoke, he'd trade his cigarettes for chocolate bars from the ration packs.
He got sick of chocolate.

314 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:08:19pm

re: #299 jcm

*speechless*

315 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:08:36pm

re: #312 Dustyvet

Uhm uh, uh...er...Doh!

I stole that retort from the old classic:

Sexual harassment will not be tolerated.
However, it will be graded.

316 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:08:37pm

re: #265 Dianna
OhKay then. I've never shot that tight a group with a .45 in my life, so I'll take your obviously expert word on it!
BTW, you do know, of course, that if you shoot a .45 at someone and even just hit him or her in the arm, they are gonna go DOWN, right?!

317 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:08:58pm

Luddites!

318 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:08:59pm

re: #310 Dianna

I have anxiety dreams involving chorus lines of numbers.

It's not pretty.

The most vivid nightmare was walking into a classroom and everyone is frantically working on a surprise test.

I get my paper... it was calculus with biology terms.

319 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:09:19pm

hey Night Honcos! It was Frikkin' Cold in Near Iowa today.

Do we know who these "so-called" experts are and how can they be sure about these "alleged" crabs?

How are you-all and what are we talking about tonite?

320 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:09:22pm

re: #306 Sharmuta

Many of us don't want you to- we like you the way you are.

But, I gotta'.

321 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:09:32pm

re: #317 Killgore Trout

Luddites!


Which way?

322 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:09:55pm

True story-Basic at Ft Dix, in December, we got fed in the field, half cooked chicken, barely warm, diced dehydrated potatoes and some thing they called green beans--supposedly.
The kicker was the dessert. this was a day that the temp was 20 degrees, They served us ICE CREAM.

323 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:10:05pm

re: #318 jcm

The most vivid nightmare was walking into a classroom and everyone is frantically working on a surprise test.

I get my paper... it was calculus with biology terms.

I used to get the dream where you have a class you "forgot", and suddenly show up for the final exam.

Not any longer. No more anxiety dreams.

324 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:10:22pm

re: #317 Killgore Trout

Luddites!

Its not that I am against evolving, its just that I think that everything has gone strait down hill since our ancestors left the oceans.

325 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:10:22pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

Ahhh, you know the difference between a physicist and an Engineer?

The engineer gets an extra zero on the paycheck...

LOL!

326 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:10:50pm

re: #323 OldLineTexan

I used to get the dream where you have a class you "forgot", and suddenly show up for the final exam.

Not any longer. No more anxiety dreams.

Seven years out of grad school and I still have that one.

327 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:10:58pm

re: #305 srb1976

What model Ruger.... I've been fairly happy with my P-90....something I should know?

I'd have to dig it out of the safe, it's just a very, very basic .45.

328 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:15pm

re: #317 Killgore Trout

Luddites!

Uh oh ... one of those giant crabby things is here!

:D

329 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:26pm

A scientist asks "Why?"
An engineer asks "How?"
An AEROSPACE engineer asks "You want fries with that?"

330 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:33pm

re: #271 OldLineTexan
"Quality firearms are worth the money. One good pistol is better than four cheap ones." Well I'm not arguing for cheap guns, but jeebus if I'd a shot you with my Army issued .45 (long before the Army went to the wussy 9mm) you'd be just as dead as if I'd shot you with a Kimber.

331 Irish Rose  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:46pm

re: #282 JohnAdams

Warming up for The Great Day, March 17th.

We started warming up for it last month, about the same time that the St. Patricks Day keg order went off to the beer distributor.

332 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:46pm

re: #307 MandyManners

Pardon me but, I like Ateam. Some power there.

I was joking, Mandy. Though more coherent typing wouldn't bother me.

333 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:47pm

My email today or yesterday from Capitalism Magazine was chock full of good articles (as usual). I actually had the time to read some of them (not as usual). I linked a few, but this one is quite good. Written in 2002 it deserves to be re-read. I think it might make a good companion to the Troll Hammer.

334 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:11:51pm

re: #281 Cognito

/ Only when she asks me to stop.

You?

335 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:12:22pm

re: #326 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Seven years out of grad school and I still have that one.

It goes away; I don't know why or how. I finished grad school in '94 ... I cannot recall the last time I suffered through that dream.

336 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:12:22pm

OK, serious right/left question. Why are most of the big time gun fans on the right ? Is it the urban/rural demographics split ? I would guess most of you that love guns are hunters or at least have some place to shoot them other then a city range.
Don't take me as anti gun lib, I was interested enough to buy a few and enjoyed shooting at the range, but most of the serious collectors seem to be from the right.
BTW, most old car collectors lean right too, so it just might be the urban/rural thing again. BTW, my first gun might be collectible by now, if I'd kept it. It was a 60's Rugar Blackhawk 357 single action with a 10 inch barrel. Useless to me, but so cool.

337 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:12:25pm

re: #324 Syrah

Its not that I am against evolving, its just that I think that everything has gone strait down hill since our ancestors left the oceans.

Be patient. In a few generations we can be genetically modified to return to the oceans if you want. We'll have to do something about those pesky sharks though.

338 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:12:45pm

re: #329 OldLineTexan

A scientist asks "Why?"
An engineer asks "How?"
An AEROSPACE engineer asks "You want fries with that?"

. . . and the poor slob sweating over the grill in the back is the one with a Political Science Degree.

339 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:13:19pm

re: #316 realwest

OhKay then. I've never shot that tight a group with a .45 in my life, so I'll take your obviously expert word on it!
BTW, you do know, of course, that if you shoot a .45 at someone and even just hit him or her in the arm, they are gonna go DOWN, right?!

That is rather the point.

340 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:13:30pm

re: #337 Killgore Trout

Be patient. In a few generations we can be genetically modified to return to the oceans if you want. We'll have to do something about those pesky sharks though.

Everything will be fine if we can eat them.

341 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:13:39pm

re: #331 Irish Rose

We started warming up for it last month, about the same time that the St. Patricks Day keg order went off to the beer distributor.

Lets drink to the Irish! You bring the beer, I'll bring the Dublin phone book...:)

342 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:13:46pm

re: #329 OldLineTexan

A scientist asks "Why?"
An engineer asks "How?"
An AEROSPACE engineer asks "You want fries with that?"

An Optimist sees a glass half full
a Pessimist sees a glass half empty
an Engineer sees a glass twice as big as it need to be...

343 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:13:55pm

re: #329 OldLineTexan

A scientist asks "Why?"
An engineer asks "How?"
An AEROSPACE engineer asks "You want fries with that?"

Six years ago here in Dallas it was the Telecom engineers asking that.

344 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:13:57pm

re: #291 JohnAdams
Thank you! I know your motives were fine, but it just makes me feel older than I am!

345 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:14:28pm

re: #323 OldLineTexan

I used to get the dream where you have a class you "forgot", and suddenly show up for the final exam.

Not any longer. No more anxiety dreams.

I was working on a project turning a multipage schematic provided by an engineer for a board to go into a million dollar piece of hardware. Mistakes can be expensive. I couldn't get the pages to reconcile or compile in the CAD program we use.

Finally figure it out. Typo, some pages he used a dash - on others a em dash – .

346 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:14:34pm

re: #344 realwest

Thank you! I know your motives were fine, but it just makes me feel older than I am!

And boy is he old...:)

347 srb1976  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:14:40pm

re: #338 Syrah

. . . and the poor slob sweating over the grill in the back is the one with a Political Science Degree.

Actually, In my neck of the woods, the aerospace guys are the ones who still have cushy jobs (less than an hour's drive from Marshall Space Flight Center)

348 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:14:50pm

re: #342 HoosierHoops

An Optimist sees a glass half full
a Pessimist sees a glass half empty
an Engineer sees a glass twice as big as it need to be...

And Who sees that the glass is always full --liquid + air = full glass?

Artist? Philosopher?

;0

349 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:15:24pm

re: #330 realwest

"Quality firearms are worth the money. One good pistol is better than four cheap ones." Well I'm not arguing for cheap guns, but jeebus if I'd a shot you with my Army issued .45 (long before the Army went to the wussy 9mm) you'd be just as dead as if I'd shot you with a Kimber.

A military issue 1911A1 will cost you more than my Kimber. I've had one or two over the years. Plus, I can actually hit stuff with it. ;)

And the Chinese copy is close to crap.

I have this thing against high-pressure chemical reactions going off within arm's reach of my face and other parts I value. A good firearm relieves that worry.

350 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:15:26pm

re: #297 irongrampa
Indeed you could! Man some of that chocolate coulda been used to build a fricking bridge!

351 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:15:29pm

re: #310 Dianna

I have anxiety dreams involving chorus lines of numbers.

It's not pretty.

The biggest stress I ever had was back when I was doing string theory. I was working on page 170 or so of what ended up being a 212 page calculation. I got some stuff that really really just did not look right.

I went to my advisor and asked him what he thought was going on with it. He poked through it a bit, and because he had endless experience from those types of calculations, he went back to about page 40 or so.
He found the error because he had an idea about what the overall "shape" of the terms should look like. I later learned that trick, but I was still a newbie then.

I had miss-copied a factor of i. I lost over 100 pages of now meaningless work.

I cried. I had the grace to go to my office and do it quietly, but I cried.

352 srb1976  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:15:36pm

re: #348 ggt


That would be a chemist...right?

353 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:16:26pm

re: #330 realwest

"Quality firearms are worth the money. One good pistol is better than four cheap ones." Well I'm not arguing for cheap guns, but jeebus if I'd a shot you with my Army issued .45 (long before the Army went to the wussy 9mm) you'd be just as dead as if I'd shot you with a Kimber.

That is making the assumption that you'd hit the target with the Army issue.

Excuse my silliness.

354 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:17:05pm

re: #352 srb1976

That would be a chemist...right?

NO CLUE? I think it would be in the sciences somewhere, but the person who told me was more into philosophy.

355 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:17:18pm

re: #299 jcm Hey JCM! I'm ROTFLMAO at that story! I mean I'm sorry she got hurt, but still - geez!

356 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:17:31pm

REALWEST--how you doin' tonite? Still having nightmares?

357 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:17:37pm

Flossing monkeys 'proof' animals teach tool use

Thai monkeys have been observed showing their young how to floss -- proof primates teach offspring to use tools, a Japanese researcher said Wednesday.

"I was surprised because teaching techniques on using tools properly to a third party are said to be an activity carried out only by humans," Professor Nobuo Masataka of Kyoto University's Primate Research Institute told AFP.

358 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:18:41pm

re: #347 srb1976

Actually, In my neck of the woods, the aerospace guys are the ones who still have cushy jobs (less than an hour's drive from Marshall Space Flight Center)

Glad to hear. Hope they weather the economic crunch well.

359 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:18:56pm

re: #336 avanti

I'm as urban as they come. I wouldn't call myself a collector, but I fancy guns. I don't like hunting, mostly because it involves killing the cute.

Guns are a defence from a lot of things. Especially when you're a smallish female.

360 jaunte  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:19:06pm

re: #336 avanti

I just appreciate them as fine machines that will last much longer than any of the other machines that I have to buy. The 'very fast rock throwing' aspect is a bonus.

361 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:19:09pm

I'm out of here for the evening.
Good night all!

362 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:19:30pm

re: #357 Sharmuta

Flossing monkeys 'proof' animals teach tool use

I have no comment till buzzsaw weighs in on this issue..
/

363 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:20:02pm

re: #359 Dianna

I'm as urban as they come. I wouldn't call myself a collector, but I fancy guns. I don't like hunting, mostly because it involves killing the cute.

Guns are a defence from a lot of things. Especially when you're a smallish female.

Heinlein: An armed society is a polite society.

364 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:20:09pm

re: #336 avanti

Many on the left dislike arms of any kind. To them, disarmament is something you always push for because it is good in and of itself. Thus they hate weapons. Also, self-defense involves self-reliance, which most on the left are hostile to. They want people dependent on the state.

365 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:20:46pm

re: #355 realwest

Hey JCM! I'm ROTFLMAO at that story! I mean I'm sorry she got hurt, but still - geez!

It's a head shaker alright. Power tools and ........... what are some people thinking?

366 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:21:35pm

re: #336 avanti

Ummm. Just a shot in the dark, but perhaps it is that those of us on the right don't expect the government aka the police to be there to cover our ass when the shit hits the fan. A point many Federal Courts have made in the past.

367 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:21:43pm

re: #309 HoosierHoops
Please do when you get the chance Hoops! I remember a buddy of mine of Italian heritage and his mom always sent him a Salami and a Pepperoni and home-baked Italian bread wrapped in tin-foil. Rest of the guys (not from anyplace where Italians lived in any significant numbers) would turn their nose up at it but we'd woof it down in nothing flat.
Strange how clearly I remember that - and that somehow the bread was always still fresh, too.
Damn, now I'm hungry! LOL!

368 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:21:56pm

re: #331 Irish Rose

We started warming up for it last month, about the same time that the St. Patricks Day keg order went off to the beer distributor.

You've got The Great Day, followed closely by Opening Day, and then soon after The Masters. Ta-da...Spring!

369 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:22:09pm

re: #336 avanti

OK, serious right/left question. Why are most of the big time gun fans on the right ? Is it the urban/rural demographics split ? I would guess most of you that love guns are hunters or at least have some place to shoot them other then a city range.
Don't take me as anti gun lib, I was interested enough to buy a few and enjoyed shooting at the range, but most of the serious collectors seem to be from the right.
BTW, most old car collectors lean right too, so it just might be the urban/rural thing again. BTW, my first gun might be collectible by now, if I'd kept it. It was a 60's Rugar Blackhawk 357 single action with a 10 inch barrel. Useless to me, but so cool.

I was a Dem when I bought my gun. As soon as was legal, I exercised my rights to vote, and bear arms.

370 OldLineTexan  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:22:09pm

A lot of leftists are totemists ... they ascribe powers to objects. The gun is an object of killing power, and is feared as a corrupter of normally "peaceful" people.

They are, of course, completely and utterly bonkers.

371 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:22:12pm

re: #365 jcm

It's a head shaker alright. Power tools and ........... what are some people thinking?

Well thank God a circular saw wasn't involved..
or a?......

372 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:24:01pm

re: #359 Dianna

I'm as urban as they come. I wouldn't call myself a collector, but I fancy guns. I don't like hunting, mostly because it involves killing the cute.

Guns are a defence from a lot of things. Especially when you're a smallish female.

I get the fancy part, I was into them many years ago, but not since I retired. I did keep a 9 MM in my stereo store, but that was purely a defense thing. Now that I think about my store manager was a gun lover, and he lived in the suburbs too.

373 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:24:51pm

re: #322 irongrampa Oh I can believe it! Wow, I did Basic and Advanced Infantry Training at Fort Dix in November, December, January and February - 68-69 - when where you there?

374 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:25:39pm

re: #336 avanti

OK, serious right/left question. Why are most of the big time gun fans on the right ? Is it the urban/rural demographics split ? I would guess most of you that love guns are hunters or at least have some place to shoot them other then a city range.
Don't take me as anti gun lib, I was interested enough to buy a few and enjoyed shooting at the range, but most of the serious collectors seem to be from the right.
BTW, most old car collectors lean right too, so it just might be the urban/rural thing again. BTW, my first gun might be collectible by now, if I'd kept it. It was a 60's Rugar Blackhawk 357 single action with a 10 inch barrel. Useless to me, but so cool.

I defer the the Dean of Firearms,

"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Liberty and the First Amendment are inextricably linked.

375 MJ  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:26:08pm

The NYT just published an article on the Freeman matter.

The article blames the "Israel Lobby".

The article does not mention Freeman's lobbying on behalf of the Saudis.

The article does not mention his being paid by the Saudis.

The article does not mention the opposition to Freeman by Chinese dissent groups in the US.

The article is what you would expect from the Jew-hating New York Times.

Israel Stance Was Undoing of Nominee for Intelligence Post
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

376 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:00pm

re: #367 realwest

Please do when you get the chance Hoops! I remember a buddy of mine of Italian heritage and his mom always sent him a Salami and a Pepperoni and home-baked Italian bread wrapped in tin-foil. Rest of the guys (not from anyplace where Italians lived in any significant numbers) would turn their nose up at it but we'd woof it down in nothing flat.
Strange how clearly I remember that - and that somehow the bread was always still fresh, too.
Damn, now I'm hungry! LOL!

Those are the rules Real..There is a slight chance that Parents of Marines might have broke those rules..I never saw it happen....Really...Never happens.
You have to declare on the bill of laden what is in the box at the post office..always tell the truth..

377 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:15pm

re: #364 Dark_Falcon

Many on the left dislike arms of any kind. To them, disarmament is something you always push for because it is good in and of itself. Thus they hate weapons. Also, self-defense involves self-reliance, which most on the left are hostile to. They want people dependent on the state.

Many, maybe, but not all. I'd suspect that a lifelong city slicker may never have thought of owning a gun, and thus suspect something they don't understand.

378 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:25pm

re: #374 jcm

I defer the the Dean of Firearms,

"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Liberty and the First Amendment are inextricably linked.

A beauty. Going right up on my wall.

379 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:37pm

re: #320 MandyManners

But, I gotta'.



380 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:45pm

re: #346 Dustyvet Hey there y'all, just shush yo mouth! You're older than I am!

381 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:52pm

re: #121 Bobblehead

Your favorite? Mine are Samoas with the ever popular Thin Mints a close second.

I like Samoas, but the Lemon Chalet things are growing on me.

(Yes, I've seen a doctor...)

My husband likes the Thin Mints, frozen.

382 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:27:55pm

I think the topic of guns boils down to one thing --choice. In this country we, as individuals, have the choice to be armed or not. It is not the case in other countries.

Moonbats only want the choice to complain when Mommy doesn't bring dinner down to the basement fast enough.

383 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:28:49pm

re: #339 Dianna
Yes that is rather the point; the other point being you don't have to shoot tight shot groups to be effective with a .45 either.

384 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:29:07pm

re: #375 MJ

It will be interesting if Rupert Murdoch succeeds in purchasing the Times . . . .

385 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:29:09pm

Growing up, weapons were such a fact of life I never gave it a second thought. Wasn't until I met my wife and her parents that the idea that they WEREN'T a fact of life reared it's head. She, and they, thought guns were something civilized people didn't have around. Wifey was a city girl, and the years have seen a paradigm shift on her part.Now, while she yet won't shoot one, they're no longer a thing to be feared.

386 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:29:33pm

re: #383 realwest

Yes that is rather the point; the other point being you don't have to shoot tight shot groups to be effective with a .45 either.

But I like the thought of being extraordinarily effective.

387 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:29:53pm

Until next time . . . Good Night all.

388 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:29:55pm

re: #232 LudwigVanQuixote

How about "White and Nerdy"

bonus points to anyone who can name the equation in the background when he's dancing. It's actually a real equation.

Once had my seventh graders ask me if my then-fiance was 'white and nerdy'. They thought I would be offended.

I told them that, indeed, all his action figures are cherry, and Stephen Hawking's in his library. (Both true.)

I got weird looks.

389 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:30:35pm

re: #336 avanti

I'm not a 'gun guy'. I don't fetishize them, or spend quality alone time gently cleaning and oiling each perfect little spring and screw...wait, where was I going with this?...oh, yeah. I'm not a gun guy. Once I figured out that 0 at 25 yards meant 1.75 high at 100 yards meant 0 again at 200 yards and about 4.25 low at 300 yards I pretty much just quit learning.

Except for the wind. And gravity. And the breathing/heartbeat timing.

390 JohnAdams  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:30:46pm

'Night all. Gotta get some rest. Who knows what fresh atrocities await tomorrow (not a question).

391 wiffersnapper  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:31:06pm

Yes but it says NOTHING about crab-people!

392 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:31:12pm

re: #246 realwest

Huh? Why is it against the rules to send chocolate to the troops?

Chocolate turns to soup in desert climes.

393 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:31:13pm

re: #336 avanti

Is it the urban/rural demographics split ?


Pretty much. People who live in large cities (New York, Chicago, LA, etc) have a different concept of guns than people who live in more rural or even suburban areas.

394 MJ  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:31:15pm

re: #384 ggt

It will be interesting if Rupert Murdoch succeeds in purchasing the Times . . . .

I really hate the NYT.

395 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:31:34pm

re: #373 realwest

Nov Dec and Jan 61. I was in the 4th Training Rgt. We had the old wooden temp barracks from WW2--were they there in 68 yet?

396 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:32:16pm

re: #304 Dustyvet

We used to get Hershey "tropical" chocolate bars for the summer back pack trips with the Scouts in the 1960s, and they wouldn't melt. They were pretty hard and waxy , IIRC.

Good Night All.

397 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:32:21pm

re: #381 SanFranciscoZionist

I like Samoas, but the Lemon Chalet things are growing on me.

(Yes, I've seen a doctor...)

My husband likes the Thin Mints, frozen.

He's a man of great "taste" then, cause I have a box in the freezer right now. (My wife just shakes her head)

398 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:32:25pm

re: #349 OldLineTexan
"A military issue 1911A1 will cost you more than my Kimber." No Shit?
Damn that's the second weapon I shoulda kept when I got out.
I can't hardly believe that it is worth that much! I mean I do believe you, but wow.

399 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:33:00pm
400 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:33:49pm

re: #370 OldLineTexan

A lot of leftists are totemists ... they ascribe powers to objects. The gun is an object of killing power, and is feared as a corrupter of normally "peaceful" people.

They are, of course, completely and utterly bonkers.

That makes sense. The old car hobby has some similar issues. A old car, needing restoration is a thing of beauty to me, while others want to pass laws saying I can't work on my own car in my yard. Their tools all fit in a kitchen drawer and don't understand the joy I have in fixing up a old car, so they want to pass a law banning it.

401 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:34:25pm

re: #389 razorbacker

I'm not a 'gun guy'. I don't fetishize them, or spend quality alone time gently cleaning and oiling each perfect little spring and screw...wait, where was I going with this?...oh, yeah. I'm not a gun guy. Once I figured out that 0 at 25 yards meant 1.75 high at 100 yards meant 0 again at 200 yards and about 4.25 low at 300 yards I pretty much just quit learning.

Except for the wind. And gravity. And the breathing/heartbeat timing.

Then you load a faster burning powder, a heavier grain round and start again.

402 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:34:29pm

re: #353 Dianna
That's not silliness - it is a good assumption! But would be a BAD bet to make!

403 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:34:45pm

re: #399 MandyManners


Mandy..I was lucky to see them in SF as the warm up band to the Who..

404 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:35:27pm

re: #400 avanti

Are you a car guy?

405 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:35:47pm

re: #365 jcm

It's a head shaker alright. Power tools and ........... what are some people thinking?

OK here is a true story from the life of Quixote.

When I was an undergraduate at Johns Hopkins, I had by didnt of taking organic chemistry found that I had just completed a pre-medical requirement. It was not my goal to go to medical school, but I took orgo because I thought a well rounded scientist ought to have seen it.

Anyway, I now qualified to be able to follow a doctor around at Hopkins hospital for a day. I took the oppurtunity. I went to the ER.

Now Hopkins hospital is in a bad part of the world. There are a lot of gunshot wounds and serious tragedies that come through the ER. I saw a lot of very heavy stuff.

Then this gentleman comes in. He was middle aged and well dressed.

Now I must warn all lizards here is the time to skip over to some other post if you are squeemish.

He had a problem... His problem was that he had a phone reciever in his bottom and he could not get it out. I wasn't a modern one, it was one of the old fashiond kind, with the two knobs.

The doctor asked "How did that happen?"

He said he must have sat on it.

The doctor said "I completely understand, sometimes, I'm just walking around my house naked, and I will have accidently left the phone sitting upright on the couch, covered in vasoline and, well, I'll get careless and just flump down on it."

The man smiled sheepishly.

So he was put up on a gurney and they gave him a muscle relaxant. I was standing off and to the side. The head nurse told me that I definitely wanted to stand back behind the guy where she was.

This seemed counter-intuitve to me, but I knew enough to listen to the lady. I am glad she listened, because the guy's kink was not having the phone in his bottom - it was having it pulled out. He became "very happy" for want of a more polite metaphor.

I had never in my life been more disgusted or weirded out by anything I had ever seen up to that point.

The world is certainly full of interesting people.

406 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:36:00pm

re: #356 ggt Hey ggt! No, not after my afternoon medicinally induced nap today.
But who knows what adventures lie ahead for me tonight!
Hope you're doing well?!

407 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:36:39pm

re: #388 SanFranciscoZionist

Once had my seventh graders ask me if my then-fiance was 'white and nerdy'. They thought I would be offended.

I told them that, indeed, all his action figures are cherry, and Stephen Hawking's in his library. (Both true.)

I got weird looks.


Pity you are married, I think I might need to propose at some point!

408 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:37:05pm

re: #389 razorbacker

I'm not a 'gun guy'. I don't fetishize them, or spend quality alone time gently cleaning and oiling each perfect little spring and screw...wait, where was I going with this?...oh, yeah. I'm not a gun guy. Once I figured out that 0 at 25 yards meant 1.75 high at 100 yards meant 0 again at 200 yards and about 4.25 low at 300 yards I pretty much just quit learning.

Except for the wind. And gravity. And the breathing/heartbeat timing.

Nor do I use a Q tip to get the dust out of Studebaker grill molding, nor paint and detail every nut and bolt on the chassis, that would just be silly. s/

409 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:38:02pm

re: #404 HoosierHoops

Are you a car guy?

Big time car guy. It's a hobby/business with me.

410 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:38:45pm

re: #377 avanti

Many, maybe, but not all. I'd suspect that a lifelong city slicker may never have thought of owning a gun, and thus suspect something they don't understand.

That's why I used the words 'many' and 'most'. I know not to try to paint everyone with the same brush. I was simply attempting to describe the general principles I feel are at work on the left.

411 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:38:48pm

re: #336 avanti

OK, serious right/left question. Why are most of the big time gun fans on the right ? Is it the urban/rural demographics split ? I would guess most of you that love guns are hunters or at least have some place to shoot them other then a city range.
Don't take me as anti gun lib, I was interested enough to buy a few and enjoyed shooting at the range, but most of the serious collectors seem to be from the right.
BTW, most old car collectors lean right too, so it just might be the urban/rural thing again. BTW, my first gun might be collectible by now, if I'd kept it. It was a 60's Rugar Blackhawk 357 single action with a 10 inch barrel. Useless to me, but so cool.

I don't know. My father is a life-long Democrat, but he loves his guns, and would own a lot more if he made more money. He's an ex-cop, and a military history enthusiast, so that may explain some of it.

But yeah, I think the lack of woods to go shoot cans in makes a difference, be it party-linked or not. When I was a kid, my dad would take me shooting in the woods, but we had to pack a lunch and DRIVE to the woods. An hour each way. Not a casual activity.

412 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:39:30pm

re: #370 OldLineTexan

...ascribe powers to objects.

Another dodge of personal responsibility.

Good night all

413 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:39:44pm

re: #410 Dark_Falcon

That's why I used the words 'many' and 'most'. I know not to try to paint everyone with the same brush. I was simply attempting to describe the general principles I feel are at work on the left.

I got that, and appreciate the narrow brush.

414 swamprat  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:40:07pm

re: #386 Dianna

But I like the thought of being extraordinarily effective.

room cleaners

Going to look at some of these, myself.

415 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:40:27pm

re: #364 Dark_Falcon
Spot on comment my friend. Spot on.
Although I WILL say that some of my former leftist friends carried without any qualms at all. The real disconnect is that the Left believes that if you take away every citizens' guns, then we'll have a safer society. And they are wrong cause crooks ain't givin' up, period. But for some reason the Left still beieves in that meme.

416 Desert Dog  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:40:47pm
417 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:41:50pm
418 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:41:57pm

re: #409 avanti

Big time car guy. It's a hobby/business with me.

How cool..My dad is a big time car guy.. ( i like driving them) We worked for Ford Mongoose racing when I was a little kid..I used to sit in the garage and watch them build racing cars..I grew up about 20 minutes from Sears point..

419 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:42:38pm

re: #384 ggt

It will be interesting if Rupert Murdoch succeeds in purchasing the Times . . . .

re: #384 ggt

It will be interesting if Rupert Murdoch succeeds in purchasing the Times . . . .

Yes, indeed. He might actually be able to save the NYT. Clean out the worst of the crazies there and focus it back on reporting the news.

420 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:42:56pm

re: #418 HoosierHoops

How cool..My dad is a big time car guy.. ( i like driving them) We He worked for Ford Mongoose racing when I was a little kid..I used to sit in the garage and watch them build racing cars..I grew up about 20 minutes from Sears point..


PIMF

421 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:43:08pm

re: #407 LudwigVanQuixote

Pity you are married, I think I might need to propose at some point!

Why, I'll take that as a compliment!

422 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:43:11pm

re: #375 MJ
Hey MJ - and iirc, NYT stock was selling at about $4.00 a pop - common shares with no real power over the content of the paper, either.

423 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:43:35pm

re: #405 LudwigVanQuixote

My first career was on the fire department.

Got a call one night. "Unknown Medical Emergency" was the dispatch. We queried the dispatch for more information. They said the caller refused to provide more information.

This should be interesting.

We get there and a naked guy opens the door holding a towel very awkwardly in front of his privates. He sits down on the couch and removes the towel. The beater brush attached for a vacuum is in his lap.

With his personal equipment wrapped around the brush.

Seems an intimate evening with the vacuum hose alone wasn't stimulating enough so he thought he might try something a little more interesting.

424 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:44:07pm

Just decided to jump in prior to hitting the rack. Reading through the thread it seems to have something to do with Cognito and crabs and then guns.

Avanti seems to wonder at the attraction to guns on the right vs. the left. My theory is pretty obvious, to me at least: lefty, the elite leadership aside who will be running the fantasy of course, is drawn like a moth to flame to the whole Utopian peace on earth, imagine if you will, thing. Guns obviously have no place in this construct. Gun ownership, and all it implies, cracks that bubble and that simply is not tolerable. Fantasy separated from reality is what separates the left from the right. Never challenge lefties reality, not if you know what is good for you.

425 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:44:39pm

re: #417 Racer X

Hot chicks dig guns

Shelby AC Cobra, sweet car.

426 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:44:42pm

re: #376 HoosierHoops
Well I wasn't a Marine, I was an Army infantryman and it was Vietnam - I suspect the rules have changed somewhat. Hell, they don't even have my old rank in the Army these days!

427 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:44:55pm

re: #419 Dark_Falcon

Yes, indeed. He might actually be able to save the NYT. Clean out the worst of the crazies there and focus it back on reporting the news.

I wonder if the journalists at the NYT would applaud --they might actually get to print something they could be proud of. I think there are some very good journalists there --those that actually deserve the professional title of "journalist". The problem is, IMHO, those who decide what is going to be printed.

428 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:45:16pm

re: #421 SanFranciscoZionist

Why, I'll take that as a compliment!


It was absolutely meant as one - also my Lizard queen, she who must be obeyed, would be agitated if I meant it any other way. :)

429 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:45:20pm

re: #422 realwest

Hey MJ - and iirc, NYT stock was selling at about $4.00 a pop - common shares with no real power over the content of the paper, either.

When the NYT goes down to 5 cents a share I'm buying the whole operation..
Think I'll fire everybody..Hire all my crazy buddies and still make a million the first year..Ya with me? LOL

430 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:45:28pm

re: #416 Desert Dog

When guns are outlawed....

After Attacks, Europe hurries to tighten guns laws

All of Europe and unarmed victim zone!

431 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:46:09pm

re: #426 realwest

Were you hard rank, Rw, or Specialist?

432 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:46:12pm

re: #408 avanti

Nor do I use a Q tip to get the dust out of Studebaker grill molding, nor paint and detail every nut and bolt on the chassis, that would just be silly. s/

Now chances are that we're not going to find ourselves trading Christmas cards, or swapping bubblegum between classes, but I am something of a Studebaker fan, myself.

And yes, I know that the back windows of the first run of Avantis would blow out at speed. I know that they overheat. I know that the R-2 Paxton superchargers were hard on the engines (and I know that neither the Stude's 289 or 352 had anything to do with Ford at all). I know all that.

But damn, I sure like the looks of that Lowery design.

433 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:46:42pm

re: #386 Dianna
ROFL! Touche! But if ever I need it, I'll take dead anyway I can get it!
;')

434 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:46:55pm

re: #423 jcm

My first career was on the fire department.

Got a call one night. "Unknown Medical Emergency" was the dispatch. We queried the dispatch for more information. They said the caller refused to provide more information.

This should be interesting.

We get there and a naked guy opens the door holding a towel very awkwardly in front of his privates. He sits down on the couch and removes the towel. The beater brush attached for a vacuum is in his lap.

With his personal equipment wrapped around the brush.

Seems an intimate evening with the vacuum hose alone wasn't stimulating enough so he thought he might try something a little more interesting.


Yeah, the things people do.... My brother (an MD) had one come in who tried to "buff" himself with an electric buffer....

435 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:47:22pm

re: #424 The Shadow Do

Avanti seems to wonder at the attraction to guns on the right vs. the left. My theory is pretty obvious, to me at least: lefty, the elite leadership aside who will be running the fantasy of course, is drawn like a moth to flame to the whole Utopian peace on earth, imagine if you will, thing. Guns obviously have no place in this construct. Gun ownership, and all it implies, cracks that bubble and that simply is not tolerable. Fantasy separated from reality is what separates the left from the right. Never challenge lefties reality, not if you know what is good for you.

This is because the right understands that human nature is relatively fixed- there will always be someone who will try to take advantage of others, and the means to prevent that is allowing for self protection.

436 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:47:56pm

re: #432 razorbacker

Lowey

437 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:48:08pm

Question...

The BNP party of Britain is a nationalist group, yes?

438 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:48:10pm

re: #416 Desert Dog

When guns are outlawed....

After Attacks, Europe hurries to tighten guns laws

Most of those are not surprising. The shocking one is Switzerland. The leftie group there wants to ban pump-actions. Once again, their language is that of 'disarmament'. Fools, all of them.

439 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:48:16pm

I should have added, for Avanti's benefit, that gun ownership and NASCAR have zip to do with rural vs urban. You are a woosie lib fantasist sheep, or you are not. I have lived in every possible political environment red, blue, purple, green or whatever. It is sense vs nonsense. simple.

440 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:48:30pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Question...

The BNP party of Britain is a nationalist group, yes?

YES! Nasty little fascists.

441 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:48:41pm

Is there any room here for us Mopar lovers?

442 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:49:20pm

re: #415 realwest

re: #418 HoosierHoops

How cool..My dad is a big time car guy.. ( i like driving them) We worked for Ford Mongoose racing when I was a little kid..I used to sit in the garage and watch them build racing cars..I grew up about 20 minutes from Sears point..

Lucky kid you were. I've been collecting, restoring and recently racing old Studebakers. I like to collect the rarer supercharged models, but tend to sell them and start over when they are done.

443 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:49:27pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Question...

The BNP party of Britain is a nationalist group, yes?

So long as you're white, protestant, and your ancestors have been there since before the American Revolution? Yes.

444 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:49:43pm

re: #436 Ojoe

Lowey

Yeah, that guy. I think he hit a homer with the mid-50s starlight coupes, too.

445 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:49:45pm

I teach in an urban area, though, and some of my kids like to shoot. They go to a local gun club and use the range there.

Apparently, once upon a time, we had a sort of improvised range in the basement of the damn school, that one of the priests put together for the campus gun club. I don't think we could get away with that these days, but we have talked about getting a school shooting club started, using other facilities. There's already a paintball club forming.

446 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:50:15pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Question...

The BNP party of Britain is a nationalist group, yes?

That's a very polite way to put it, but yes.

447 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:50:28pm

re: #395 irongrampa
Yep - that's where I was in Advanced Infantry Training! Coal stoves and all! LOL!
"hey Private realwest, this hears a pretend Vietnamese Village - how do you clear it of bad guys?"
"Well Sgt, I reckon I'd just follow those tracks in the snow and shoot wherever they ended!"
"Private realwest, drop and give me 50!"

448 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:50:33pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Question...

The BNP party of Britain is a nationalist group, yes?

They are a fascist group. They wrap themselves in the Union Jack, but they don't really believe in the British tradition of ordered liberty.

449 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:50:46pm

re: #440 Sharmuta

YES! Nasty little fascists.

Well, that's interesting. There is a story and some comment at Spencer's little place, and the first comment is in regards to the BNP winning elections and taking care of the muslim problem.

It looks like Robert is willing to just let everyone know that his site supports outright white racism.

450 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:51:30pm

re: #439 The Shadow Do

I should have added, for Avanti's benefit, that gun ownership and NASCAR have zip to do with rural vs urban. You are a woosie lib fantasist sheep, or you are not. I have lived in every possible political environment red, blue, purple, green or whatever. It is sense vs nonsense. simple.

Is it necessary to own guns and watch NASCAR to avoid being a woosie lib fantasist sheep?

451 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:51:59pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Question...

The BNP party of Britain is a nationalist group, yes?


Turning serious, they are the inheritors of the British brown shirts. They are xenophobic, racist, nationalistic, and quite simply fascist. They are currently focusing on hating mUslims, but they also hate Jews, Black people, and anyone who is not lilly white. They are mildly hostile to Catholics as well.

452 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:51:59pm

re: #449 Walter L. Newton

Well, that's interesting. There is a story and some comment at Spencer's little place, and the first comment is in regards to the BNP winning elections and taking care of the muslim problem.

It looks like Robert is willing to just let everyone know that his site supports outright white racism.

That's not surprising.

453 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:51:59pm

re: #441 irongrampa

Is there any room here for us Mopar lovers?

I have one of these, a lighter blue.

454 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:52:32pm

re: #450 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it necessary to own guns and watch NASCAR to avoid being a woosie lib fantasist sheep?

Nope. I've never watched NASCAR in my life.

455 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:52:56pm

re: #449 Walter L. Newton

Well, that's interesting. There is a story and some comment at Spencer's little place, and the first comment is in regards to the BNP winning elections and taking care of the muslim problem.

It looks like Robert is willing to just let everyone know that his site supports outright white racism.

After that Facebook group he joined, can there be any doubt?

456 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:53:10pm

re: #452 Sharmuta

That's not surprising.

It is to me!

Heavens.

457 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:54:40pm

re: #456 Dianna

robert's been tip toeing around the fascists for quite some time now. He may as well be open about it. He has no problem with them so long as they're "fighting islamization".

458 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:54:40pm

re: #454 Dianna

Nope. I've never watched NASCAR in my life.

Why bother? The next turn will be towards the left.

459 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:54:59pm

re: #451 LudwigVanQuixote

Mildly hostile to Catholics? Ha!

The anti-papist thing is very real in Britain. It's much worse than here in the States, and it's pretty virulent here.

460 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:55:03pm

Time to call it a night. Dark Falcon, Sorry that you felt the need to ding me down tonight. But hey, Shit happens.

L8R

461 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:55:26pm

re: #430 jcm

All of Europe and unarmed victim zone!

Oh, not just firearms --dangerous video games too!

462 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:55:30pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops
Ah, but iirc, it's the preferred shareholders (the Punch/Pinch family owns all of the preferred shares) who make all the editorial decisions. Save your money!

463 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:55:31pm

re: #450 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it necessary to own guns and watch NASCAR to avoid being a woosie lib fantasist sheep?

Nope, just know that when you denigrate those things that you are shoulder to shoulder with woosie fantasist sheep.

464 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:55:44pm

re: #455 Dark_Falcon

After that Facebook group he joined, can there be any doubt?

I'm not doubting anything. But Spencer keeps screaming about not being racist and yet this thread has 90 comments, and the BNP comment is the very first one.

He's had more than enough time to clean up that comment if he doesn't support that sort of thinking.

465 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:56:22pm

re: #453 jcm

Sweet. I'm the proud owner of a brand new 68 RoadRunner, a clone of the one I bought in January of 69. Is yours a standard like that one? If so, it's a real rarity, amd would have to have been special ordered.

466 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:56:46pm

re: #431 irongrampa
Specialist 4! Same pay grade as a corporal. But Army now only has one grade of specialist - used to have spec 4's,5, and 6's when I was in.

467 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:57:32pm

re: #457 Sharmuta

Careful - before we attribute to him what's said in the comments section, think how we resent it when people do that to Charles.

Until I've read that thread - and that won't happen until tomorrow - I won't have an opinion.

What Robert Spencer's up to, I cannot fathom. I'm deeply disturbed, but I want to be very careful.

468 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:57:44pm

re: #450 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it necessary to own guns and watch NASCAR to avoid being a woosie lib fantasist sheep?

re: #439 The Shadow Do

I should have added, for Avanti's benefit, that gun ownership and NASCAR have zip to do with rural vs urban. You are a woosie lib fantasist sheep, or you are not. I have lived in every possible political environment red, blue, purple, green or whatever. It is sense vs nonsense. simple.

Actually, it is not clear that owning firearms or not makes you a woosie liberal. Also, I think that urban vs. rural makes a big difference. I grew up in rural Pa. I mean schools got an extra day off for deer season. Everyone knew how to shoot.

You really will not see that in the typical suburban environment, and the inner city kids learn about weapons for different reasons entirely.

As to not liking guns. My great uncle was a Merril's Marauder. He was hardly a pansie woosie anything. He considered that one of the things he was fightin for was to prevent his kids from ever needing to have a gun. He said he had used them enough.

469 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:58:20pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton
I believe all the evidence presented by Charles would indeed indicate that the BNP is a bunch of White Supremacists and Fascists.

470 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:58:31pm

re: #459 Dianna

Mildly hostile to Catholics? Ha!

The anti-papist thing is very real in Britain. It's much worse than here in the States, and it's pretty virulent here.


You are quite correct, however, as far as the BNP goes, that is not one of their main planks - unless I am mistaken.

471 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:58:58pm

re: #432 razorbacker

Now chances are that we're not going to find ourselves trading Christmas cards, or swapping bubblegum between classes, but I am something of a Studebaker fan, myself.

And yes, I know that the back windows of the first run of Avantis would blow out at speed. I know that they overheat. I know that the R-2 Paxton superchargers were hard on the engines (and I know that neither the Stude's 289 or 352 had anything to do with Ford at all). I know all that.

But damn, I sure like the looks of that Lowery design.

Let me know when you want one, I'll hook you up. You know a great deal about Studebakers, but here's some recent news you may be unaware of. We've been racing the Avanti's and Avanti engined Larks at the Pure Stock Muscle car drags for a few years and doing very well.
Nothing like seeing a 64 Studebaker take out a 427 Yenko Chevy to get the crowds attention.
We also have one guy that runs twin turbos on a 289 in a 51 Studebaker that runs in the low 10's. His name is Ted Harbit, and he's in the NHRA hall of fame for drag racing since the 60's with the same car.

472 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 9:59:05pm

re: #465 irongrampa

Sweet. I'm the proud owner of a brand new 68 RoadRunner, a clone of the one I bought in January of 69. Is yours a standard like that one? If so, it's a real rarity, amd would have to have been special ordered.

Nice, family has been MOPAR for 3 generations, funny how that works out my truck and Van are both Dodge. The Van is just badged Dodge, it's the Benz import Dodge brought over to replace the Ram Van.

473 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:00:07pm

re: #466 realwest


Yah, the Army changed rankings during my USAEUR tour, 62, iirc. Our unit stayed with hard rankfor the senior nco's, my rank 3stripes-I held.

474 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:00:10pm

re: #453 jcm
Nice.

475 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:00:12pm

re: #460 Bubblehead II

Time to call it a night. Dark Falcon, Sorry that you felt the need to ding me down tonight. But hey, Shit happens.

L8R

Good night, BHII. The downding won't be a regular thing (here's an upding to compensate). You're very good to talk and I enjoy having you around. Sleep well.

476 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:01:52pm

re: #467 Dianna

Did you miss these threads?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Also- Walter has an interesting email exchange, maybe he can post it again or forward it to you. And I've been watching this for quite some time. I have no problem stating that robert has fascist leanings. He's on record as saying vlaams belang is not fascist.

477 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:02:05pm

re: #467 Dianna

Careful - before we attribute to him what's said in the comments section, think how we resent it when people do that to Charles.

Until I've read that thread - and that won't happen until tomorrow - I won't have an opinion.

What Robert Spencer's up to, I cannot fathom. I'm deeply disturbed, but I want to be very careful.

I'm not attributing anything to Spencer, I simply asked a question about a political group that I wasn't totally familiar with, but which I thought I had heard that they had nationalist connections.

I just wanted to confirm who they were.

478 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:02:20pm

Well Lizards..I did it..I stayed up late and watched the Jimmy Fallon show ( i'm never here late during the week)
My review: Possibly the worst late night show I've ever seen..The writers need to be fired also Jimmy just isn't very funny..If I needed his dry humorless tone I'd just spend more time chatting with my boss over coffee at 8am every morning.. Jimmy..I knew Johnny and you are no Johnny..
when you interview somebody Jimmy...try not to be so breathless..don't faint..jeez..
I thought the The Today Show interviews were bad..
/that might have been mean..But that is my review..sorry

479 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:02:43pm

re: #450 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it necessary to own guns and watch NASCAR to avoid being a woosie lib fantasist sheep?

I stopped being interested stock car racing, when they stopped racing stock cars. Once, a NASCAR car was showroom stock with maybe a roll bar and shoulder harness, now they look sorta like a factory car from the stands.

480 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:02:49pm

I think I will start a new Facebook group "Songs I don't care if I ever hear again"
Candidates are "I Will Survive", "Get Down Tonight", and "In The Mood".
Any others I should add?

481 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:06pm

re: #471 avanti

Due to the beefer frame on Stude pickups, most every Champ that hit our junkyard was soon cut down to make a trailer.

We destroyed, for pennies on the dollar, vehicles that would sell for astonishing prices nowadays.

I mean really, who would have expected late '60s Mopars to go for six figures?

482 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:09pm

re: #468 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually, it is not clear that owning firearms or not makes you a woosie liberal. Also, I think that urban vs. rural makes a big difference. I grew up in rural Pa. I mean schools got an extra day off for deer season. Everyone knew how to shoot.

You really will not see that in the typical suburban environment, and the inner city kids learn about weapons for different reasons entirely.

As to not liking guns. My great uncle was a Merril's Marauder. He was hardly a pansie woosie anything. He considered that one of the things he was fightin for was to prevent his kids from ever needing to have a gun. He said he had used them enough.

The pointed end of my comment was directed to those who denigrate gun owners and race enthusiasts - also known as hicks among the enlightened fantasist camp. Hell, I don't folow NASCAR either, but that is not my point.

483 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:09pm

I'm starting to fade, so I'm going to turn in. Good night, all.

484 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:12pm

re: #476 Sharmuta

Did you miss these threads?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Also- Walter has an interesting email exchange, maybe he can post it again or forward it to you. And I've been watching this for quite some time. I have no problem stating that robert has fascist leanings. He's on record as saying vlaams belang is not fascist.

"Robert, can you answer one simple question for me. This would help a lot in deciding what is really going on here. Which European political parties do you UNCONDITIONALLY condemn because of their proven ties to racist nationalism?" (Walter L. Newton email to Robert Spencer sent on Friday, November 07, 2008 1:16 PM)

And his answer...

"Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied." (Robert Spencer email answer to Walter L. Newton sent on Sat 11/8/2008 10:39 AM)

Oops. Wrong answer, huh Robert.

485 realwest  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:25pm

Well y'all, I'm gonna try going to sleep at a decent hour and see if I feel more rested tomorrow!
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

486 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:29pm

re: #477 Walter L. Newton

It's all on me, Walter. I have no problem calling robert a fascist sympathizer. I've seen enough to feel my label is warranted.

487 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:52pm

Time for the old folk.Good night, good people.

And remember-we're Americans. We WILL persevere.

488 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:03:54pm

re: #478 HoosierHoops

I saw the 4th show. I thought he was lukewarm, but the band was smokin'.

489 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:04:06pm

re: #480 rawmuse

I think I will start a new Facebook group "Songs I don't care if I ever hear again"
Candidates are "I Will Survive", "Get Down Tonight", and "In The Mood".
Any others I should add?

Anything sung by John Denver.

490 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:04:23pm

re: #482 The Shadow Do

The pointed end of my comment was directed to those who denigrate gun owners and race enthusiasts - also known as hicks among the enlightened fantasist camp. Hell, I don't folow NASCAR either, but that is not my point.


Fair enough! I understand.

491 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:04:23pm

re: #470 LudwigVanQuixote

You are quite correct, however, as far as the BNP goes, that is not one of their main planks - unless I am mistaken.

It's been a while since I studied the BNP; when last I did, I reacted with deep and angry disgust to pretty much all their positions. But I noted the anti-Catholic one, because that is an interest of mine.

Lots of people study anti-semitism, and various stripes of racism, but most people ignore anti-Catholicism.

492 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:04:25pm
493 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:05:00pm

Heck, even dogs like guns.

494 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:06:25pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

Yes, and a very nasty bunch.

495 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:06:27pm

OT:
Responding to Mike Volpe's "Video of the Day" post in the links, I bring you:
Raging Bull - The F***ing Short Version

496 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:06:35pm

re: #483 Dark_Falcon

I'm starting to fade, so I'm going to turn in. Good night, all.

Night D_F!

497 LynnfromNZ  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:06:42pm

Has anyone posted this American Civics quiz yet? Apologies for redundancy. The average American's score is 49%. I got 97%, 32 out of 33. Anybody do 100%?

[Link: www.americancivicliteracy.org...]

498 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:07:05pm

re: #486 Sharmuta

It's all on me, Walter. I have no problem calling robert a fascist sympathizer. I've seen enough to feel my label is warranted.

Neither do I. I was simply trying to gather some info before I jumped to any conclusions. I got what I wanted, and I say he's got a BIG problem.

The first two comments on this thread I was reading both mention the BNP and how they will clean things up.

There are =88 more comments. I think the site moderator has had enough time to clean this up if they wanted to.

499 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:08:04pm

re: #481 razorbacker

Due to the beefer frame on Stude pickups, most every Champ that hit our junkyard was soon cut down to make a trailer.

We destroyed, for pennies on the dollar, vehicles that would sell for astonishing prices nowadays.

I mean really, who would have expected late '60s Mopars to go for six figures?

Had you have not crushed them, the few survivors would not bring six figures. BTW, here's a collector car story that is a great read. It's one that you would have crushed without a thought.

Tempest

500 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:09:27pm

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards. I received this via email and thought I would share it.

One of my sons serves in the military, he is stationed in
Ontario , Canada . He called me yesterday To let
me know how warm and welcoming people were to
Him and his troops everywhere they go.
Telling me how people shake their hands and thank them
For being willing to serve and fight, not only for our own
Freedoms but so that others may have Freedom too.

Then he told me about an incident in the grocery store
He stopped at yesterday, on his way home from the
Base. He said that several people were in the line
Ahead of him, including a woman dressed in a Burkha.

He said when she got to the cashier, she made a loud
Remark about the Canadian Flag, lapel pin, the cashier
wore on her smock. The cashier reached up and touched
The pin and said,
"Yes, I always wear it proudly, because I ' m Canadian."

The woman in the burkha then asked the cashier when
She was going to stop bombing her countrymen,
Explaining that she was Iraqi.

Then, a Gentleman standing behind my son stepped
Forward, putting his arm around my son's shoulders and
nodding towards my son, said in a calm and gentle
Voice to the Iraqi woman:

"Lady, hundreds of thousands Of men and women like this young
man have fought and Died so that YOU could stand here,
in MY country and accuse a check-out cashier of bombing YOUR
countrymen. It is my belief that had YOU been this outspoken in
YOUR own country, we wouldn't need to be there today.

But, hey, if you have now learned how to speak out so
Loudly and clearly, I ' ll gladly buy you a ticket and pay
YOUR way back to Iraq , so you can Straighten out the
Mess in YOUR Country, that you are Obviously here in
MY country to avoid."

Everyone within hearing distance cheered!

501 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:10:03pm

Headline at Boston herald . com

Bristol Palin splits with ‘white trash’ Levi Johnston

Fuckers just won't let up.

This is why I have no problem talkin shit about Obama and the leftist morons.

502 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:10:03pm

re: #476 Sharmuta

I missed about half that, Sharm.

I'll try to catch up. You know how little time any of us have.

503 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:10:44pm

re: #480 rawmuse

I think I will start a new Facebook group "Songs I don't care if I ever hear again"
Candidates are "I Will Survive", "Get Down Tonight", and "In The Mood".
Any others I should add?

Celebrate! or is it, Celebration? & The old Coke song: I'd like to teach the world to sing . . .

504 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:10:53pm

re: #449 Walter L. Newton

As I recall, Spencer has condemned the BNP but his site is full of BNP supporters. He allows it. Brussels Journal welcomed the BNP into the couterJihad movement a month or two ago. It's not really a surprise.

505 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:11:08pm

That song from DisneyWorld --It's a small world.

506 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:11:09pm

re: #492 Iron Fist

(Couldn't sleep. Just too keyed up. And the belt of gause ain't helping :-)

Having a "US Property" marked .45, especially if it is WWII specific (Remington Rand, etc.) can be worth as much as a high-end Kimber, almost into Wilson Combat territory. It depends on the condition, of course, but no one expects a WWII issue gun to be in pristine condition (I'd be suspicious if it was. Refinishing one will knock the bottom out of its value). Pre-WWII, I wouldn't even have seen enough of to hazard a concrete guess. Lots and lots, I'd bet you.

If I had such a prize, I wouldn't shoot it. Put it back in safekeeping. They will make more Kimbers, and even Wilson Tacticals. They aren't making more WWII issue guns.

I stepped back from the post mortum buzzard like division of my Dad's belongings when he went. His .45 WWII issue pistol ended up with my nephew. I didn't want much, but damn I wanted that pistol.

507 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:11:26pm
508 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:11:39pm

re: #491 Dianna

It's been a while since I studied the BNP; when last I did, I reacted with deep and angry disgust to pretty much all their positions. But I noted the anti-Catholic one, because that is an interest of mine.

Lots of people study anti-semitism, and various stripes of racism, but most people ignore anti-Catholicism.


I did not mean to ignore anything. I did mention that they are anti-Catholic, and obviously, I have a problem with that. Honestly, once I determined that they were scum, I did not look into them much more. If you feel they are much more than just "mildly" anti-Catholic, then I stand corrected.

Perhaps it is a matter of contrast, they did not seem to foam as much about Catholics as they do about other groups. Then again, I might have missed something wretched they were vomiting about Catholics also.

509 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:11:46pm

re: #499 avanti

Had you have not crushed them, the few survivors would not bring six figures. BTW, here's a collector car story that is a great read. It's one that you would have crushed without a thought.

Tempest

Rare cars are found in barns sometimes....

510 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:12:11pm

re: #498 Walter L. Newton

Those comments were posted 11 hours ago! More than enough time to clean that up. Perhaps the moderators don't care.

511 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:13:02pm

re: #500 Erik The Red

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards. I received this via email and thought I would share it.

One of my sons serves in the military, he is stationed in
Ontario , Canada . He called me yesterday To let
me know how warm and welcoming people were to
Him and his troops everywhere they go.
Telling me how people shake their hands and thank them
For being willing to serve and fight, not only for our own
Freedoms but so that others may have Freedom too.

Then he told me about an incident in the grocery store
He stopped at yesterday, on his way home from the
Base. He said that several people were in the line
Ahead of him, including a woman dressed in a Burkha.

He said when she got to the cashier, she made a loud
Remark about the Canadian Flag, lapel pin, the cashier
wore on her smock. The cashier reached up and touched
The pin and said,
"Yes, I always wear it proudly, because I ' m Canadian."

The woman in the burkha then asked the cashier when
She was going to stop bombing her countrymen,
Explaining that she was Iraqi.

Then, a Gentleman standing behind my son stepped
Forward, putting his arm around my son's shoulders and
nodding towards my son, said in a calm and gentle
Voice to the Iraqi woman:

"Lady, hundreds of thousands Of men and women like this young
man have fought and Died so that YOU could stand here,
in MY country and accuse a check-out cashier of bombing YOUR
countrymen. It is my belief that had YOU been this outspoken in
YOUR own country, we wouldn't need to be there today.

But, hey, if you have now learned how to speak out so
Loudly and clearly, I ' ll gladly buy you a ticket and pay
YOUR way back to Iraq , so you can Straighten out the
Mess in YOUR Country, that you are Obviously here in
MY country to avoid."

Everyone within hearing distance cheered!


That was wonderful.

512 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:13:23pm

re: #493 Racer X

Heck, even dogs like guns.

I know a few dogs that get excited when they see guns. It means field time!

513 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:13:49pm

re: #510 Sharmuta

The First BNP comment has a +10 rating. The highest rated comment on the thread.

514 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:14:18pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

As I recall, Spencer has condemned the BNP but his site is full of BNP supporters. He allows it. Brussels Journal welcomed the BNP into the couterJihad movement a month or two ago. It's not really a surprise.

He wants it both ways. You can't condemn the BNP and them allow your site to advocate for them. It's like the commenters are a proxy.

515 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:15:22pm

re: #507 rawmuse

SF Police Union accuses Ayers in 1970 SF Bombing

Link showed the "gun dog".

516 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:15:37pm

re: #501 Racer X

Headline at Boston herald . com

Bristol Palin splits with ‘white trash’ Levi Johnston

Fuckers just won't let up.

This is why I have no problem talkin shit about Obama and the leftist morons.

He wasn't good enough for her. She'll meet someone better.

517 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:16:00pm

re: #514 Sharmuta

He wants it both ways. You can't condemn the BNP and them allow your site to advocate for them. It's like the commenters are a proxy.

His opposition to the BNP is pretty weak and he only made one passing mention. He's had BNP supporters on his site for years (Lionheart among them) and Spencer gives them tacit support.

518 avanti  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:16:03pm

OK, time to hit the rack, take care all.

519 So?  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:16:09pm

Oh, so you da CRAW?

520 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:16:15pm

re: #515 ggt

Link showed the "gun dog".


Oopsie
OK this is the one

521 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:16:25pm

re: #510 Sharmuta

Those comments were posted 11 hours ago! More than enough time to clean that up. Perhaps the moderators don't care.

Even giving Robert and Pamela and that ilk the benefit of the doubt, it is obvious that they are very happy in looking the other way.

So, they get that deniability, yet they also get the fringe support and are get the pot "stirred" without getting their own hands dirty.

It's the 1930's all over again.

522 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:16:27pm

re: #513 Killgore Trout

The First BNP comment has a +10 rating. The highest rated comment on the thread.

He clearly doesn't care if the BNP is held up as a model on his site.

It's similar to fjordy- who stopped running his own blog because he was attracting nazis. Well- when you continuously attract the same sorts of people, I'm of the mind to sit and ponder "why?"

523 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:17:24pm

re: #480 rawmuse

I think I will start a new Facebook group "Songs I don't care if I ever hear again"
Candidates are "I Will Survive", "Get Down Tonight", and "In The Mood".
Any others I should add?

"Tainted Love." Oh, and anything - anything at all - by Spandau Ballet. "True" springs forcefully to mind. And let's not forget "Don't you want me, Baby?" while we're at it.

And "Born to Run."

524 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:17:37pm

re: #521 Walter L. Newton

So, they get that deniability, yet they also get the fringe support and are get the pot "stirred" without getting their own hands dirty.

BINGO!

525 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:17:59pm

re: #520 rawmuse

Oopsie
OK this is the one

EXCELLENT!

526 razorbacker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:18:06pm

re: #499 avanti

Had you have not crushed them, the few survivors would not bring six figures. BTW, here's a collector car story that is a great read. It's one that you would have crushed without a thought.

Tempest

I saw that a few months ago. I wouldn't have known what it was, either. Hell, I'd never heard of a racing Tempest.

527 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:18:17pm

Lots of genocide comments over at Spencer's place tonight too.

528 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:18:27pm

re: #480 rawmuse

I think I will start a new Facebook group "Songs I don't care if I ever hear again"
Candidates are "I Will Survive", "Get Down Tonight", and "In The Mood".
Any others I should add?

ANYTHING from Morrissey!

529 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:19:17pm

re: #524 Sharmuta

BINGO!

I saved most of that thread.

530 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:19:34pm

re: #507 rawmuse

SF Police Union accuses Ayers in 1970 SF Bombing

Huh?

I'm looking at a picture of a well-armed dog.

531 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:19:35pm

re: #521 Walter L. Newton

Even giving Robert and Pamela and that ilk the benefit of the doubt, it is obvious that they are very happy in looking the other way.

So, they get that deniability, yet they also get the fringe support and are get the pot "stirred" without getting their own hands dirty.

It's the 1930's all over again.

Walter, you might like this book.. I haven't gotten past the first 3 chapters. The first one nearly did me in --terrified actually.

532 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:19:37pm
533 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:20:53pm

re: #528 Sharmuta

ANYTHING from Morrissey!

oh G-d, YES! Please ban Morrissey.

534 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:20:56pm

re: #530 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh?

I'm looking at a picture of a well-armed dog.

Yeah, I corrected myself later.
(hangs head in shame...)

535 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:21:02pm

re: #531 ggt

Walter, you might like this book.. I haven't gotten past the first 3 chapters. The first one nearly did me in --terrified actually.

Thanks.

536 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:21:24pm

re: #527 Killgore Trout

Lots of genocide comments over at Spencer's place tonight too.

And allowing it just begets more of it. The comments of jihad watch are a cesspool.

537 Syrah  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:21:35pm

Goodnight Lizards.

I have left something for your amusement in the Spin offs.

N=N*fp ne fl fi fc fL

Do Aliens cause Global Warming?

See you all on Thursday.

538 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:21:49pm

re: #533 ggt

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

539 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:22:12pm

re: #535 Walter L. Newton

I thought we were having a new episode of Lost tonight. What happened?

540 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:22:54pm

re: #538 Sharmuta

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

Can we add Alan Parson's Project to that?

541 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:23:06pm

re: #539 Killgore Trout

I thought we were having a new episode of Lost tonight. What happened?

They lost it.

542 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:23:23pm

re: #529 Walter L. Newton

I saved most of that thread.

It was the parallels between Spencer's own Nakba post and the genocidal one Charles posted on. That really tipped me.

543 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:23:35pm
544 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:24:04pm

re: #539 Killgore Trout

I thought we were having a new episode of Lost tonight. What happened?

No, they had a planned break this week. They repeated the episode "LaFleur" tonight. The second half of the season starts next week. Whoopie.

545 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:24:20pm

re: #513 Killgore Trout

The First BNP comment has a +10 rating. The highest rated comment on the thread.

Ugh.

546 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:24:29pm

re: #543 Racer X

Looks like Zo will be working with Pajamas TV.

Nice!

That's awesome! He rocks.

547 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:24:41pm

re: #540 ggt

Can we add Alan Parson's Project to that?

No, I love the "eye in the sky".

548 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:25:16pm

CPACKIN'

ROFLMAO!

549 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:26:08pm

Night all...

550 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:26:12pm

The Europeans (especially the Dutch and Germans) have some slightly different sensibilities on racism.....
Tender, Juicy Obama Fingers Hit the Shelves

A German frozen food company hopes to raise sales with a new product: Obama fingers. The tender, fried chicken bits come with a tasty curry sauce. The company says it was unaware of the possible racist overtones of the product.
551 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:26:13pm

re: #380 realwest

Hey there y'all, just shush yo mouth! You're older than I am!

Am not so dere...:)

552 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:26:22pm

re: #497 LynnfromNZ

Has anyone posted this American Civics quiz yet? Apologies for redundancy. The average American's score is 49%. I got 97%, 32 out of 33. Anybody do 100%?

[Link: www.americancivicliteracy.org...]

Nah, I missed three. 90%. The economics stuff made me sweat.

553 Racer X  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:26:37pm

re: #546 Sharmuta

That's awesome! He rocks.

Yes he does!

His youtube videos are so entertaining because of the quick edits. Not sure how well that will transfer over to TV.

554 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:27:14pm

re: #532 Iron Fist

Bless you Dad. What an experience, waking up like that...but he did!

Families need to work things out before a parent is lost, otherwise it can get very ugly. I have not spoken to my sister for 20 years over her really shameful behavior when my Dad died. Took 15 years through an intermediary to get a couple dozen family photos. That was it. Having grown up with her I thought I knew her, I thought wrong.

555 pink freud  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:27:38pm

re: #509 jcm

That is one beautiful car.

556 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:28:35pm

re: #540 ggt

Can we add Alan Parson's Project to that?

No. Turn of a Friendly Card remains brilliant.

557 The Shadow Do  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:28:55pm

Crap it's late, I'm out.

558 stevieray  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:29:32pm

re: #497 LynnfromNZ

Has anyone posted this American Civics quiz yet? Apologies for redundancy. The average American's score is 49%. I got 97%, 32 out of 33. Anybody do 100%?

[Link: www.americancivicliteracy.org...]

Yay... just got a 100%... but I guessed at one of them...

559 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:29:44pm

When I get to where I'm going, will somebody please tell me where I am?

560 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:30:39pm

re: #497 LynnfromNZ

Has anyone posted this American Civics quiz yet? Apologies for redundancy. The average American's score is 49%. I got 97%, 32 out of 33. Anybody do 100%?

[Link: www.americancivicliteracy.org...]

I missed one, but I don't understand their answer.

33) If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

They said D, but, how is that possible with a progressive tax? While, if I do not spend more then I take in, I am not in debt for the year. Am I just really tired and missing something?

561 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:30:43pm

re: #559 Dustyvet

When I get to where I'm going, will somebody please tell me where I am?

Where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket?!

562 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:32:11pm

Most evil car ever.....

G'nite, y'all

563 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:33:01pm
564 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:33:35pm

7 MOST SHOPLIFTED ITEMS

Pain Relievers

Pregnancy tests

Disposable razors

Film

Baby formula

Preparation H

Decongestant

565 stevieray  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:34:26pm

re: #560 LudwigVanQuixote

That was tricky. It involves the difference between deficit and debt,

"A" would be correct if it said, "government deficit is zero",

566 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:35:13pm

machosauceproductions.com

"Macho Sauce Productions promotes these basic positions:

You believe we are one mighty nation under All Mighty God.
(Anyone in the world can be part of the All Mighty's Nation)
We're a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
You believe your first fruits belong to God, not Government.
You believe capitalism is the best enabler of hiring power, and charitable contributions.
You believe capitalism promotes strong individualism, to make us elements of a stronger whole.
You believe public school is great, but school choice is greater.
You believe competitive based health care is better than government rationed health care.
You believe people would do better to pay into their own retirement, instead of being forced to pay into someone else's.
You believe the Declaration of Independence says you must have Life before liberty, and happy pursuits.
You believe we don't need permission to defend ourselves, and that we're not interested in taking over other countries, only protecting ourselves and our allies from those who threaten us with the capability of acting on it, or who actually attack us.
You believe the 2nd Amendment is essential for protecting ourselves when government can't, and from the government themselves should they grossly misinterpret the Constitution, or ignore it.
If you support the above stated, get a shirt, and spread the Macho Sauce!"

567 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:35:23pm

re: #534 rawmuse

Yeah, I corrected myself later.
(hangs head in shame...)

It's OK, I just spent several seconds too long trying to figure out if the dog was connected to the case in some way.

568 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:35:49pm

Most Important .. how do you get one of these suckers to climb across to the Barbecue top? I mean .. what sort of bait do you use .. little sisters?

569 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:36:06pm

re: #521 Walter L. Newton

Pamela and Spencer have both gone over to the other side, and now? There is no turning back for them. Nor can either of them deny their words, as they are there for the sane world to see.

Pamela is an attention whore who will say or do anything for the attention...she reminds me more and more of Gloria Swanson, in 'Sunset Boulevard'.

570 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:36:10pm

re: #556 Dianna

No. Turn of a Friendly Card remains brilliant.

re: #547 BatGuano

No, I love the "eye in the sky".

d@mn!

571 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:36:30pm

re: #565 stevieray

That was tricky. It involves the difference between deficit and debt,

"A" would be correct if it said, "government deficit is zero",

Fair enough... But then unless you are averaging everyone's tax rate, how can D be correct?

572 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:36:32pm

re: #560 LudwigVanQuixote

I missed one, but I don't understand their answer.

33) If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

They said D, but, how is that possible with a progressive tax? While, if I do not spend more then I take in, I am not in debt for the year. Am I just really tired and missing something?

That's the one I missed too, they are using Keynesian economics, with Keynes D would be correct. The also conflate debt and deficit, debt is not necessarily bad, large ticket items may entail debt. Deficit is bad, spending more than comes in.

573 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:36:59pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

The Europeans (especially the Dutch and Germans) have some slightly different sensibilities on racism.....
Tender, Juicy Obama Fingers Hit the Shelves

Well. That's...neat.

574 srb1976  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:37:38pm

re: #554 The Shadow Do

Bless you Dad. What an experience, waking up like that...but he did!

Families need to work things out before a parent is lost, otherwise it can get very ugly. I have not spoken to my sister for 20 years over her really shameful behavior when my Dad died. Took 15 years through an intermediary to get a couple dozen family photos. That was it. Having grown up with her I thought I knew her, I thought wrong.

My husband lost his dad and grandma in about a 3 month span, and absolutely refused to participate in squabbling over who got what..... he never wanted anything of value so luckily the vultures left the important stuff (photos, keepsakes...that kind of thing).....it's really sad

575 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:37:53pm

re: #570 ggt

Sorry.

/not.

576 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:38:17pm

re: #572 jcm

That's the one I missed too, they are using Keynesian economics, with Keynes D would be correct. The also conflate debt and deficit, debt is not necessarily bad, large ticket items may entail debt. Deficit is bad, spending more than comes in.


But we don't have pure Keynsian economics... I call foul!

577 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:38:35pm

re: #569 NY Nana

Pamela and Spencer have both gone over to the other side, and now? There is no turning back for them. Nor can either of them deny their words, as they are there for the sane world to see.

Pamela is an attention whore who will say or do anything for the attention...she reminds me more and more of Gloria Swanson, in 'Sunset Boulevard'.


[Video]

pathetic?

578 stevieray  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:39:08pm

re: #571 LudwigVanQuixote

That's the way I read it... as averaging everything coming in, and everything going out.

579 stevieray  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:40:04pm

re: #576 LudwigVanQuixote

You're right... it is a poorly constructed question.

580 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:40:19pm

re: #578 stevieray

That's the way I read it... as averaging everything coming in, and everything going out.

No I get it... I just am not thrilled with the ambiguity of their language. Not everyone pays the same taxes.

581 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:40:34pm

re: #560 LudwigVanQuixote

I missed one, but I don't understand their answer.

33) If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

They said D, but, how is that possible with a progressive tax? While, if I do not spend more then I take in, I am not in debt for the year. Am I just really tired and missing something?

I missed that too. I don't get it. Tax doesn't get taxed evenly, or spent evenly.

A person with six kids in public schools is using more tax money than a person with no kids in school. People use all kinds of different services, or don't. Can someone explain it to me?

582 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:41:08pm

re: #576 LudwigVanQuixote

But we don't have pure Keynsian economics... I call foul!

I did too! It's not as simple as taxes per person = spending person.

We're over analyzing the question.

583 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:41:34pm

Also, it does not, uh, come across entirely unbiased, although thank God they actually know where 'separation of church and state' comes from, unlike an oddball I had an argument with at a party a while back.

584 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:41:37pm

re: #577 ggt

pathetic?

Excellent description.

585 srb1976  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:41:37pm

re: #580 LudwigVanQuixote

No I get it... I just am not thrilled with the ambiguity of their language. Not everyone pays the same taxes.

there....fixed = )

586 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:42:40pm

I misses three answers on the quiz, the same one with Flood control levee, and two others. Not bad for an autodidact.

587 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:42:44pm

re: #565 stevieray

That was tricky. It involves the difference between deficit and debt,

"A" would be correct if it said, "government deficit is zero",

Ah. OK.

588 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:43:48pm

re: #581 SanFranciscoZionist

I missed that too. I don't get it. Tax doesn't get taxed evenly, or spent evenly.

A person with six kids in public schools is using more tax money than a person with no kids in school. People use all kinds of different services, or don't. Can someone explain it to me?

The premiss of their question is incorrect.

In simplistic terms in a Keynesian system Total Revenue / Population compared to Total Spending / Population.

Grossly over simplified and using an incorrect economic model.

589 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:45:07pm

re: #565 stevieray

That was tricky. It involves the difference between deficit and debt,

"A" would be correct if it said, "government deficit is zero",

Few people understand the difference.

590 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:45:16pm

re: #588 jcm

The premiss of their question is incorrect.

In simplistic terms in a Keynesian system Total Revenue / Population compared to Total Spending / Population.

Grossly over simplified and using an incorrect economic model.

Thanks. Not my area.

591 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:45:58pm

re: #581 SanFranciscoZionist

I missed that too. I don't get it. Tax doesn't get taxed evenly, or spent evenly.

A person with six kids in public schools is using more tax money than a person with no kids in school. People use all kinds of different services, or don't. Can someone explain it to me?


The answer they wanted was that if you have 100 people pay x dollars in taxes, and the govt spends exactly x dollars, then the average tax per person = the average amount spent per person by the government, i.e. x/100 = x/100.

To JCM we have a right to over analize because we are white and nerdy damnit and when I was a boy I was taught the following by my parents:

A = Adequate
B = Bad
C = Catastrophe
D = Don't even want to think about it.

592 Steve  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:46:19pm

Just took a poll and here are the results on the economy.

[Link: www.personalliberty.com...]

The Total Number of people who voted in this poll: 102940

1) Who is most to blame for America’s current economic crisis?
75% voted: Democrats and US Congress
10% voted: The Bush Administration
2% voted: Wall Street
10% voted: Banks and sub-prime lenders
1% voted: Real estate and mortgage professionals
0% voted: Investors
1% voted: Home buyers

2) Do you agree government bailouts are the answer to America’s financial crisis?
6% voted: Yes
89% voted: No
5% voted: Undecided

3) Do you believe the American taxpayers should have to foot the bill for our financial systems mistakes?
7% voted: Yes, we have to or we’ll end up in a prolonged recession or worse a depression.
23% voted: No, America is too far in debt already.
67% voted: Absolutely not, the American people should never be responsible for bailing out the private sector.
2% voted: Undecided

4) Do you believe the government bailouts will ultimately rescue our country's financial system?
7% voted: Yes
87% voted: No
6% voted: Undecided

5) Do you believe Barack Obama was the best choice to handle the country's future economic policy?
11% voted: Yes
86% voted: No
3% voted: Undecided

593 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:46:29pm

re: #569 NY Nana

Pamela and Spencer have both gone over to the other side, and now? There is no turning back for them. Nor can either of them deny their words, as they are there for the sane world to see.

Pamela is an attention whore who will say or do anything for the attention...she reminds me more and more of Gloria Swanson, in 'Sunset Boulevard'.

You are too kind.

594 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:50:05pm

re: #592 Steve

Just took a poll and here are the results on the economy.

[Link: www.personalliberty.com...]

The Total Number of people who voted in this poll: 102940

1) Who is most to blame for America’s current economic crisis?
75% voted: Democrats and US Congress
10% voted: The Bush Administration
2% voted: Wall Street
10% voted: Banks and sub-prime lenders
1% voted: Real estate and mortgage professionals
0% voted: Investors
1% voted: Home buyers

2) Do you agree government bailouts are the answer to America’s financial crisis?
6% voted: Yes
89% voted: No
5% voted: Undecided

3) Do you believe the American taxpayers should have to foot the bill for our financial systems mistakes?
7% voted: Yes, we have to or we’ll end up in a prolonged recession or worse a depression.
23% voted: No, America is too far in debt already.
67% voted: Absolutely not, the American people should never be responsible for bailing out the private sector.
2% voted: Undecided

4) Do you believe the government bailouts will ultimately rescue our country's financial system?
7% voted: Yes
87% voted: No
6% voted: Undecided

5) Do you believe Barack Obama was the best choice to handle the country's future economic policy?
11% voted: Yes
86% voted: No
3% voted: Undecided


Not necessarily debating with everything there, but it would seem clear to me that the poll was of a certain cut of the populace and not particularly representative. More representative numbers would be much different.

595 stevieray  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:50:58pm

Second time its been mentioned... it must be linked!

White and Nerdy.

596 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:50:58pm

NY Nana have you seen this article? Shameless spin-off promotion, but I think it's good.

597 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:52:35pm

G'nite all you Honcos.

“A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing.”
Alexander Hamilton

598 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:52:54pm

I am really going to sleep early, for me.

Wednesday, my son in law's Mum, who I adore, had her leg amputated. She has cancer. I won't go into the details, but this should have been done at least 2 years ago. She was in excellent hospitals and medical centers, too.

She has a tough road ahead, but has battled cancer once before, and knocked it out and never looked back.

I do not want to give her name, but any prayers for her complete recovery would be appreciated. She has been there for anyone who needed help, and now? We are all there for her. Explaining to our 2 1/2 year old grandson will be difficult, as he notices everything, and will question the prostheses, etc. She will go from the hospital to a rehab facility.

Right now? I feel like punching out a wall...

G'nite, all. May today be a better day.

599 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:53:23pm

re: #27 OldLineTexan

I saw a commercial on TV just now.

It ended in a website. It's like The Onion, except I have a sneaking suspicion these people believe their satire:

thisisreality.org

Kiss your easily-available electricity at (somewhat) affordable rates goodbye. Obama's insane leftist kook base is on the march.

Ah, er, actually it's true that coal-fired generators produce the most CO2 per Kwh of electricity. This isn't insanity. It's reality. Reality really is real, both when we're talking evolution, and when we're talking CO2.

What to do about it is a good question. Bjorn Lomborg suggests we just ride it out and pay the price of mitigation. With plenty of coal-fired electricity, we can just run the air conditioners ever more.

I've got my doubts. Lomborg is an economist, and economists don't take the long view. They make a mistake to think that the discount rate for future wealth is 7%, or 5%, or 2%. It's actually almost zero. Seen through the lens of centuries, that is, it's almost zero. A one percent growth rate in food production per capita, sustained over the past thousand years, would have seen us each eating sixteen thousand times as much as the peasants of 1009. We haven't had that much of an improvement in standards of living. For all of those centuries being times of amazing progress, one percent is a staggering rate of change.

We should be wary of thinking that super-insane humongously rich future people will easily be able to pay the cost of global warming out of pocket change, should it come to pass.

Even if you grant that global warming is a problem and that we need to curb carbon emissions, Obama's Cap and Trade scheme invites corruption, maximizes disruptive side effects, and must end in failure. It will be much more expensive than an open, honest plain old tax on fossil CO2 emissions would be. Because of its cost and its disruptive effects, it will fail. Either it will be rescinded, or it will fail as loopholes are put in place, one after the other, for all the friends of O, until the scheme leaks like a sieve that has had all its wire rust out.

600 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:53:59pm

I don't know who Pamela and Spencer are. May I still post here?

601 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:54:05pm

re: #598 NY Nana

I am really going to sleep early, for me.

Wednesday, my son in law's Mum, who I adore, had her leg amputated. She has cancer. I won't go into the details, but this should have been done at least 2 years ago. She was in excellent hospitals and medical centers, too.

She has a tough road ahead, but has battled cancer once before, and knocked it out and never looked back.

I do not want to give her name, but any prayers for her complete recovery would be appreciated. She has been there for anyone who needed help, and now? We are all there for her. Explaining to our 2 1/2 year old grandson will be difficult, as he notices everything, and will question the prostheses, etc. She will go from the hospital to a rehab facility.

Right now? I feel like punching out a wall...

G'nite, all. May today be a better day.

Prayers for everyone. Much much love.

602 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:55:28pm

re: #593 Sharmuta

If I said what I am thinking? Someone would wash my mouth out with soap! ;)

And it would be [deleted]!

603 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:56:34pm

re: #597 jcm

G'nite all you Honcos.

“A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing.”
Alexander Hamilton

Got one more thing to do tonight... I'll continue multitasking for awhile...

604 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:56:37pm

re: #601 SanFranciscoZionist

Prayers have been offered.

605 solomonpanting  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:57:27pm

Giant Crabs. Are they also from Florida?

606 Dianna  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:58:22pm

Going to bed.

Take care, all!

607 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 10:58:50pm

re: #605 solomonpanting

Giant Crabs. Are they also from Florida?

I knew there was a reason I haven't been to Florida.

608 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:00:10pm

re: #605 solomonpanting

Giant Crabs. Are they also from Florida?

Lunch is served!

609 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:01:43pm

the only problem with having these giant crabs is that you need a 5 gallon Budweiser to wash it down with. Not to mention a 2kg lemon for flavor.

610 solomonpanting  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:02:06pm

"I hate snakes."

611 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:03:11pm

re: #599 lostlakehiker

Ah, er, actually it's true that coal-fired generators produce the most CO2 per Kwh of electricity. This isn't insanity. It's reality. Reality really is real, both when we're talking evolution, and when we're talking CO2.

What to do about it is a good question. Bjorn Lomborg suggests we just ride it out and pay the price of mitigation. With plenty of coal-fired electricity, we can just run the air conditioners ever more.

I've got my doubts. Lomborg is an economist, and economists don't take the long view. They make a mistake to think that the discount rate for future wealth is 7%, or 5%, or 2%. It's actually almost zero. Seen through the lens of centuries, that is, it's almost zero. A one percent growth rate in food production per capita, sustained over the past thousand years, would have seen us each eating sixteen thousand times as much as the peasants of 1009. We haven't had that much of an improvement in standards of living. For all of those centuries being times of amazing progress, one percent is a staggering rate of change.

We should be wary of thinking that super-insane humongously rich future people will easily be able to pay the cost of global warming out of pocket change, should it come to pass.

Even if you grant that global warming is a problem and that we need to curb carbon emissions, Obama's Cap and Trade scheme invites corruption, maximizes disruptive side effects, and must end in failure. It will be much more expensive than an open, honest plain old tax on fossil CO2 emissions would be. Because of its cost and its disruptive effects, it will fail. Either it will be rescinded, or it will fail as loopholes are put in place, one after the other, for all the friends of O, until the scheme leaks like a sieve that has had all its wire rust out.

That was really well written. The only technology that we have in hand that can provide the elctricity we need and reduce emissions is fission. The math just does not add up for any other resource. That does not mean that there isn't a lot we can help by using a lot more solar, but all of these so called "economic" fixes do not reflect the real world physics.

612 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:03:15pm

"Crabs on a Plane"

613 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:03:17pm

re: #609 Buster Bunny

the only problem with having these giant crabs is that you need a 5 gallon Budweiser to wash it down with. Not to mention a 2kg lemon for flavor.

And a great big bucket of melted butter.

614 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:04:17pm

re: #598 NY Nana


If you are still there please give me her name and her mother's name.

615 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:06:36pm

re: #613 CyanSnowHawk

And a great big bucket of melted butter.

Crab Pot Restaurant. Mixed pot of seafood, veggies and dump it on your table.

616 Kailen  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:07:44pm
617 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:08:06pm

re: #601 SanFranciscoZionist

Thank you! I just got this from a friend 's son...Israelis, who live in the SF area. I have known them for nearly 50 years...

Mayonnaise Jar & Two Beers...
When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24 hours in a day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar and the 2 Beers.

A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him.
When the class began, he wordlessly picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise jar and
proceeded to fill it with golf balls.
He then asked the students if the jar was full.
They agreed that it was. The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles rolled into the open areas between the golf balls.
He then asked the students again if the jar was full. They agreed it was.
The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He asked once more if the jar was full.
The students responded with a unanimous 'yes.'
The professor then produced two Beers from under the table and poured the entire contents into the jar effectively filling the empty space between the sand. The students laughed..
'Now,' said the professor as the laughter subsided, 'I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life.
The golf balls are the important things---your family, your children, your health, your friends and your favorite passions---and if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full.
The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house and your car.
The sand is everything else---the small stuff.
'If you put the sand into the jar first,' he continued, 'there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls.
The same goes for life.
If you spend all your time and energy on the small
stuff you will never have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness.
Spend time with your children.
Spend time with your parents.
Visit with grandparents.
Take time to get medical checkups.
Take your spouse out to dinner.
Play another 18.
There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal.
Take care of the golf balls first---the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand.
One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the Beer represented.
The professor smiled and said, 'I'm glad you asked.' The Beer just shows you that no matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple of Beers with a friend.

G'nite again, all...sweet dreams.

618 UncleSam  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:08:28pm

Time to implement my plan to corner the market on cocktail sauce...

619 Buster Bunny  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:11:49pm

How many seafood pizzas does one seventy foot crab make? And does that require a proportionate loading of anchovies and mozarella?

620 LynnfromNZ  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:13:16pm

re: #581 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, that's the only one I missed. I still don't understand it.

621 Kailen  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:16:58pm

re: #620 LynnfromNZ

It looks to me no more complex than:

If a = b, then a/c = b/c.

But maybe I'm missing a deeper meaning.

622 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:17:20pm

weet dreams all!

623 BatGuano  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:25:01pm

I saw a movie when I seven years old where some civil war soldiers got in a hot air balloon and crashed on an Island that had giant creatures including a giant crab. The pushed the giant crab into boiling volcanic pool of water and eated it and Captain Nemo was there. What movie was that?

624 jcm  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:25:02pm

re: #620 LynnfromNZ

Yes, that's the only one I missed. I still don't understand it.

33) If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

Their answer (D) works like this.

A country has 100 people and raises $100 in tax revenue, so the average tax is $1 per person. The country then spends $100 for an average of $1 per person.

The answer A doesn't make sense since debt is longer term. Deficit is spending more than income. Debt is long term like a loan and not necessarily bad, car, house, business loans.

C and E are plain silly.

D doesn't hold up to examination since taxes aren't collected or spent on an "average."

The correct answer would be the government does not have a deficit, it's income is equal to it's spending.

625 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:30:01pm
626 Kailen  Wed, Mar 11, 2009 11:31:11pm

I missed 4. 3 history questions and #30, "decrease taxes, increase spending", which I knew was incorrect, but long run, the "right answer" is just bad business.

627 lifeofthemind  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 12:09:49am

On topic :)
My favorite Biology Prof was Monty Lloyd who did a slide show for what today would be called an Ecology class. Such things were just becoming popular then. He was an entertaining fellow who told us he had two families in two countries and used slide shows to describe various fauna and their habitats. He was good and knew his stuff. We were all 18 or 19 year olds. I still remember when he put one slide in a series of 50 or more up and it was a Common Louse. Without missing a beat he said "If you've ever had crabs you know what a bitch these are" and then he went to the next slide. He never did make Full Professor, during Vietnam he just gave everyone an A so they wouldn't have to face the draft, and forgot to stop the year the draft ended. Remember that back then Chicago was the home of the Gentleman's D. Nowadays some pinhead would probably destroy his free spirit with a sexual harassment complaint.

628 LynnfromNZ  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 2:32:05am

re: #624 jcm

I guess I see what they're getting at, but it's a thin tautology -- "We spend as much as we get from everyone so everybody gets their money back because we spent all we took in." I'm certainly not an economist, but there's probably an economic principle or theory at work there. I'd just call it non-deficit non-surplus spending.

629 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 5:01:59am

Got crabs? ;-)

630 ak47pundit  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 7:06:31am

The important question of course is were these huge harmless crabs with razor-sharp claws the product of evolution or creationism?

631 Lee Coller  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 7:59:24am

re: #27 OldLineTexan

I saw a commercial on TV just now.

It ended in a website. It's like The Onion, except I have a sneaking suspicion these people believe their satire:

thisisreality.org

Kiss your easily-available electricity at (somewhat) affordable rates goodbye. Obama's insane leftist kook base is on the march.

So were those quotes on that link supposed to be reality or examples of false quotes about coal?

632 BethesdaDog  Thu, Mar 12, 2009 11:29:11am

I simply do not understand the posts here. Over 600 posts on an important topic regarding genetically engineered giant crabs, and people are talking about all kinds of irrelevant silliness, like tephones stuck in rectums and God knows what else.

There's a place to discuss such stuff.

I want to know more about these crabs. I don't think we should dismiss the pros and cons without more serious discussion.


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