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1 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:27:19pm

Whoosh! What a great word & sound!

2 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:29:57pm

Douglas Adams rocks.

3 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:30:02pm

My deadlines swhoosh. Maybe they have a speech impediment.

4 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:30:43pm

I hope these protests continue in Iran....blood's already been spilled and it would be a shame if this all went away if the mullahocracy gets off the hook with a few token gestures.

5 wiffersnapper  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:32:00pm

Kobe's deadlines go swish

6 Rob with a Mind  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:33:27pm

Humans are not proud of their ancestors, and rarely invite them round to dinner.

Douglas Adams does indeed rock!

7 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:34:01pm

God, Maureen Dowd is a moron.

/Sometimes that just has to be said. Excuse me.

8 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:37:58pm

re: #4 Fenway_Nation

I hope these protests continue in Iran....blood's already been spilled and it would be a shame if this all went away if the mullahocracy gets off the hook with a few token gestures.

I was just listening to NPR and the lady being interviewed made a great point, I thought- if the American people can see that the regime would cheat its own people out of an election, why would we think they can be trusted to keep any word they'd make in negotiations? 0bama is going to have a hard time convincing us talks with Iran are what we should be doing.

9 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:38:02pm

re: #7 iceweasel

We already knew that, but what compelled you to point that out now?

10 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:38:12pm

I hope & pray that many or most of the 0bama policies go flush!
And the ones that get implemented are flushed very soon.

11 gmsc  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:39:25pm
12 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:41:48pm

re: #11 gmsc

Geez....I almost thought of myself as avant-guard because I have an XMP3 (portable XM/Sirius sattelite reciever) now.

It's almost obsolete now that XM/Sirius is available on the 3.0.

13 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:44:51pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

My deadlines swhoosh. Maybe they have a speech impediment.

no: you're just that hot........ %-)

/white smoke

14 pat  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:45:04pm

Deadlines seem to mean impending doom from wher I come from. lol

15 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:45:34pm

re: #9 Fenway_Nation

We already knew that, but what compelled you to point that out now?

Every once in a while it has to be said. Like every time I make the mistake of reading something by her.

She's just...gah....oh I can't stand her. She's the epitome of the emptyheaded beltway media, churning out vacuous crap and passing it off as some kind of insight. And it's accepted as such! Is it any wonder our media sucks so badly and our political discourse is generally in such crappy shape when someone like her has one of the cushiest spots in journalism? "Journamalism", I should say.

Anyway, I read this piece of drool and my head exploded. May need a drink now.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

16 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:45:45pm

re: #5 wiffersnapper

Kobe's deadlines go swish

Kobe goes swish..... and so can the Lakers.

enough already.

17 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:46:50pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I was just listening to NPR and the lady being interviewed made a great point, I thought- if the American people can see that the regime would cheat its own people out of an election, why would we think they can be trusted to keep any word they'd make in negotiations? 0bama is going to have a hard time convincing us talks with Iran are what we should be doing.

no he won't: he was able to convince them to vote for him, wasn't he?

/screwed.

18 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:47:59pm

re: #7 iceweasel

God, Maureen Dowd is a moron.

/Sometimes that just has to be said. Excuse me.

that's an insult to morons, thankyouverymuch.

/on their behalf

19 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:48:15pm

re: #16 redc1c4

So you weren't at that parade today, I take it?

20 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:49:04pm

re: #14 pat

Deadlines seem to mean impending doom from wher I come from. lol

have some fruitcup...... it does a body good.

21 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:49:47pm

re: #17 redc1c4

no he won't: he was able to convince them to vote for him, wasn't he?

/screwed.

I think he'll be more like clinton and abide by public opinion polls. But he's welcome to push it- I think it will cost him.

22 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:49:54pm

re: #19 Fenway_Nation

So you weren't at that parade today, I take it?

nor at the riot the other night.....

23 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:51:34pm

re: #21 Sharmuta

I think he'll be more like clinton and abide by public opinion polls. But he's welcome to push it- I think it will cost him.

can i have some of what you're taking?

my meds don't let me be that upbeat, and i could use the delusion.......

24 gmsc  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:52:13pm

re: #12 Fenway_Nation

Geez....I almost thought of myself as avant-guard because I have an XMP3 (portable XM/Sirius sattelite reciever) now.

It's almost obsolete now that XM/Sirius is available on the 3.0.

I've been looking into developing for the iPhone and iPod Touch. I've been working through some Objective-C tutorials (the language) , XCode and the rest of the SDK (the development environment).

More and more, there are some interesting development environments that allow you to develop and sell native apps with only knowledge of Javascript and HTML, such as:

QuickConnectiPhone
Nimble Kit ($99, even though it's less than a month old)
PhoneGap (Actually, this is more for developing web apps with native app abilities)

25 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:52:24pm

rat check!

26 gmsc  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:53:10pm

re: #17 redc1c4

no he won't: he was able to convince them to vote for him, wasn't he?

/screwed.

Well, how long before zero talks with unmendeddinnerjacket without preconditions?

27 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:53:17pm

re: #15 iceweasel

Every once in a while it has to be said. Like every time I make the mistake of reading something by her.

She's just...gah....oh I can't stand her. She's the epitome of the emptyheaded beltway media, churning out vacuous crap and passing it off as some kind of insight. And it's accepted as such! Is it any wonder our media sucks so badly and our political discourse is generally in such crappy shape when someone like her has one of the cushiest spots in journalism? "Journamalism", I should say.

Anyway, I read this piece of drool and my head exploded. May need a drink now.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Well....anyone concerned about excess weight gain and overeating should probably read that article.

If that doesn't induce vomiting, I don't know what will.

On the flip side, anyone who ingested rat poison or Drano should probably let it run their course, lest that piece of hack 'journalism' make you long for Death's sweet embrace to arrive even quicker.

28 mrshankly01  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:54:06pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

great point.

that video that Charles put up earlier is great. it shows people what it looks like when the government is really taking your rights away...

29 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:54:39pm

re: #25 redc1c4

rat check!

And the winner is?

30 freetoken  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:56:13pm

re: #24 gmsc

I've been looking into developing for the iPhone and iPod Touch. I've been working through some Objective-C tutorials (the language) , XCode and the rest of the SDK (the development environment).

Amazing stuff, eh? I remember years ago (when men were men and programming languages were in hex) how few tools there were... but today, with something like XCode, the ability to make sophisticated UI can actually be fun.

31 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:57:10pm

re: #27 Fenway_Nation

Well....anyone concerned about excess weight gain and overeating should probably read that article.

If that doesn't induce vomiting, I don't know what will.

On the flip side, anyone who ingested rat poison or Drano should probably let it run their course, lest that piece of hack 'journalism' make you long for Death's sweet embrace to arrive even quicker.

I think I love you.

32 gmsc  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:58:57pm

re: #30 freetoken

Amazing stuff, eh? I remember years ago (when men were men and programming languages were in hex) how few tools there were... but today, with something like XCode, the ability to make sophisticated UI can actually be fun.

As we type this, I'm in the middle of installing the newest version of the iPhone SDK, and I can't wait to see the changes.

I wrote my first Native App monday, and spent some time learning about Interface Builder earlier today.

I've also found some ingenious ideas for using Dashcode to get things up and running quicker before you do the hard work in XCode.

33 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:00:02am

Today in History, June 18th:

Highlights of this day in history: Churchill rallies Britain in World War II; Napoleon beaten at Battle of Waterloo; Amelia Earhart crosses the Atlantic; Sally Ride becomes America's first woman in space; Ex-Beatle Paul McCartney born.

Other notable June 18th events include:

1858 – Charles Darwin receives a paper from Alfred Russel Wallace that includes nearly identical conclusions about evolution as Darwin's own. This prompts Darwin to publish his theory.

1873 – Susan B. Anthony is fined $100 for attempting to vote in the 1872 presidential election.

1923 – Checker Taxi puts its first taxi on the streets.

1979 – SALT II is signed by the United States and the Soviet Union.

1981 – The AIDS epidemic is formally recognized by medical professionals in San Francisco, California.

1996 – Ted Kaczynski, suspected of being the Unabomber, is indicted on ten criminal counts.

34 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:03:05am

re: #33 gmsc

thanks.

35 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:03:27am

re: #34 mrshankly01

thanks.

You're welcome.

36 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:04:47am

re: #31 iceweasel

Umm....thanks?

37 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:09:29am

re: #15 iceweasel

The first 2 sentences in that is enough to make me roll my eyes and mutter "oh for fucks sake" under my breath.

I keep looking, but I cant for the life of me find the line in Article 2 about the President telling me what I should be eating as one of his enumerated powers.

38 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:10:35am

re: #29 Floral Giraffe

And the winner is?

Murphy....... no sign anywhere.

/bummer

39 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:10:55am

re: #32 gmsc

As we type this, I'm in the middle of installing the newest version of the iPhone SDK, and I can't wait to see the changes.

I wrote my first Native App monday, and spent some time learning about Interface Builder earlier today.

I've also found some ingenious ideas for using Dashcode to get things up and running quicker before you do the hard work in XCode.

Want to build an app? There's an app for that!

40 Bullskin  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:11:46am
41 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:11:51am

re: #39 ArchangelMichael

Want to build an app? There's an app for that!

I'm surprised they haven't used that in an ad yet – I love it!

42 Old Engineer  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:12:41am

The only true deadline is death itself. The others are only minorannoyances. But, until he real one, we can have a lot of fun, give a lot of love, make a lot of money, grow in stature, and get fat. Love is the most important of these. God bless you with one good mate and lots of grandchildren.
Old Engineer

43 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:13:56am

re: #40 Bullskin

The '0ne' killing a fly.

history will record this as being the aggressive high point of his term in office.

44 pat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:14:58am

And those are my postings. Nite all.

45 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:15:26am

re: #44 pat

And those are my postings. Nite all.

G'Nite, pat.

46 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:16:01am

re: #44 pat

Bye pat!

47 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:16:59am

I'm sure you've all moved on by now...but I just loved Douglas Adams...got funny looks from people any time I read Hitchhiker's guide in public....laughing out loud through a lot of it = )

48 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:19:01am

re: #37 ArchangelMichael

The first 2 sentences in that is enough to make me roll my eyes and mutter "oh for fucks sake" under my breath.

I keep looking, but I cant for the life of me find the line in Article 2 about the President telling me what I should be eating as one of his enumerated powers.

It's so bad. So, so, so bad. There is an aura of stupid around it that will suspend normal brain wave function for at least ten minutes. I should have posted it with a warning.

49 laZardo  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:19:40am

re: #48 iceweasel

Arugula?

/obscure Martha Stewart reference

50 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:19:59am

re: #47 srb1976

I'm sure you've all moved on by now...but I just loved Douglas Adams...got funny looks from people any time I read Hitchhiker's guide in public....laughing out loud through a lot of it = )

How to Write Like Douglas Adams

51 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:21:31am

re: #49 laZardo

Arugula?

/obscure Martha Stewart reference

I don't get it. :(
I've mostly avoided all knowledge of Martha Stewart. Mostly.

52 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:25:17am

re: #51 iceweasel

I don't get it. :(
I've mostly avoided all knowledge of Martha Stewart. Mostly.

too bad for you..... she runs your block in the reorg camp.

/it's for your own good..... %-)

53 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:25:31am

re: #40 Bullskin

yea, CNN said it was done "smoothly"

54 laZardo  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:25:39am

re: #51 iceweasel

I forget it if it was South Park or something else, but it involves someone seeing Martha Stewart's face on a dog and it was barking "Arugula!"

55 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:26:58am

re: #48 iceweasel

hard hitting journalism at its best. i simply don't understand why the MSM is having financial difficulties. must be the recession. /s

56 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:28:57am

re: #50 gmsc

Tried to click that, apparently the filters @ work think it might be entertaining...sorry = )

57 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:29:17am

re: #55 mrshankly01

Or that bitch karma.....

58 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:30:04am

re: #56 srb1976

Tried to click that, apparently the filters @ work think it might be entertaining...sorry = )

Just save it for later. It is a fun read.

59 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:31:04am

re: #54 laZardo

I forget it if it was South Park or something else, but it involves someone seeing Martha Stewart's face on a dog and it was barking "Arugula!"

Awesome!

I just found this fantastic Daily Show vid from last week-- about the NY Times. It is painfully funny. The best part is that the Times people apparently thought it went well!

[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]

Best part: Daily Show reporter asks Bill Keller, the Executive Editor of the NYT,
"What's black and white and red all over?"

Keller says, "A newspaper"

"No!" says DS guy-- "Your balance sheet."

Keller laughs and then trails off with a painful little "....oh"

Yeah, that's gotta hurt.

60 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:31:13am

re: #58 gmsc

Just save it for later. It is a fun read.

It would have to be = )

61 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:40:09am

where is everyone tonight

62 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:40:14am

So, i'm thinking French Toast for breakfast in the morning (after work)....with fresh strawberries....but the question is...bacon or sausage to go with it?

63 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:40:36am

re: #62 srb1976

bacon

64 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:41:28am

re: #62 srb1976

So, i'm thinking French Toast for breakfast in the morning (after work)....with fresh strawberries....but the question is...bacon or sausage to go with it?

Morning Lizards. Go for the bacon. Pissing of the Muslims 1 billion at a time. :)

65 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:41:28am

re: #63 mrshankly01

Tough to go wrong with bacon....and sausage is really better with maple syrup...you're probably right = )

66 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:42:40am

so, breakfast @ 8ish, CDT = )

67 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:42:53am

re: #65 srb1976

yea, you could eat bacon wrapped razor blades and still be happy. wonderful meat.

68 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:43:05am

re: #61 mrshankly01

where is everyone tonight

Still going around the web, finding out iphone developer info about 3.0.

69 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:43:40am

Jimmy Fallon is slobbering over the fact that Obama killed a fly with his hand!

"So smooth", "amazing hand eye coordination", etc

....wtf?

Some guy on the local ABC affiliate was going crazy over how cool his signature is.

70 mrshankly01  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:43:49am

re: #68 gmsc

just updated mine. downloading MLB right now.

71 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:43:56am

re: #67 mrshankly01

I see you've stumbled across my recipie....

72 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:45:31am

re: #62 srb1976

So, i'm thinking French Toast for breakfast in the morning (after work)....with fresh strawberries....but the question is...bacon or sausage to go with it?

yes............

plus biscuits and gravy?

73 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:46:26am

re: #72 redc1c4

what do you think the sausage is for? = )

74 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:46:37am

re: #65 srb1976

Tough to go wrong with bacon....and sausage is really better with maple syrup...you're probably right = )

duh: maple syrup on the fwench toast

75 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:47:01am

re: #73 srb1976

what do you think the sausage is for? = )

lube?

76 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:47:47am

re: #59 iceweasel

"No!" says DS guy-- "Your balance sheet."

LMAO!

77 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:48:21am

re: #62 srb1976

Sausage- goes better with syrup.

78 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:48:33am

re: #74 redc1c4

duh: maple syrup on the fwench toast

I was thinking sliced strawberries, tossed with a little sugar....make their own syrup.....yum

79 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:50:57am

re: #78 srb1976

I was thinking sliced strawberries, tossed with a little sugar....make their own syrup.....yum

sliced strawberries with a skosh of basalmic vinegar, a bit of sour cream, and some brown sugar.......with a touch of cinnamon and other spices.

80 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:52:32am

re: #79 redc1c4

sliced strawberries with a skosh of basalmic vinegar, a bit of sour cream, and some brown sugar.......with a touch of cinnamon and other spices.

Haven't tried that...sounds heavenly though

81 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:54:43am

re: #80 srb1976

Haven't tried that...sounds heavenly though

there's a reason i'm so thin......

/white smoke

82 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:55:10am

re: #77 Sharmuta

Sausage- goes better with syrup.

She speaks truth!

83 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:56:26am

re: #82 iceweasel

Bacon goes better with eggs.

84 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:56:45am

Sausage is great with syrup, but since I was leaning towards a strawberry sauce for the french toast....that's why I asked for opinions = )

there are worse things to have to ponder in the last half of a workday = )

85 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:58:15am

re: #83 Sharmuta

Bacon goes better with eggs.

In, or next to? Because if you're putting something in your eggs, it really needs to be a good smoked ham....bacon is better next to eggs (esp. fried eggs, over medium) yum!

86 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:59:42am

re: #85 srb1976

In, or next to? Because if you're putting something in your eggs, it really needs to be a good smoked ham....bacon is better next to eggs (esp. fried eggs, over medium) yum!

I agree. When I put meat in my eggs, it's ham.

87 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:00:40am
88 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:01:42am

re: #3 Sharmuta

My deadlines swhoosh. Maybe they have a speech impediment.

No, Sharmy, your deadlines have a SPEEDTH impediment... :P

89 redc1c4  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:01:59am

chop up the ham, the bacon, and the sausage, and then, when everything's about ready, spread the chopped up sharp cheddar cheese so it can melt over everything.....

90 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:02:36am

re: #83 Sharmuta

Bacon goes better with eggs.

True, but best of all....the Full Irish Breakfast, or English Breakfast:

mushrooms
beans
toast
half a grilled tomato
eggs
bacon
sausage
boatloads of tea.

To be had only every once in a while in the event of a hangover, and to be followed by massive nap.
( i ignore the black or white pudding)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

91 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:04:59am

re: #88 Karridine

LOL!

92 gmsc  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:05:18am

Well, it's back to the old grindstone later today.

Good night, all!

93 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:07:35am

re: #89 redc1c4

chop up the ham, the bacon, and the sausage, and then, when everything's about ready, spread the chopped up sharp cheddar cheese so it can melt over everything.....

Nah. Cheez Whiz over microwaved Spam mixed with powdered freeze dried eggs.

94 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:08:01am

I usually put hot sauce on my scrambled eggs.

95 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:09:41am

re: #90 iceweasel

I've had black pudding before, as Blutwurst during a "Sample authentic German Food" party in my German class freshman year in high school.

We were led to believe that it was put into goat scrotum. My friends referred to it as "goat scroats" all throughout high school. In order to gag it down I drowned it in mustard and basically swallowed it whole.

I didn't see a reference to scrotum in that wiki article which makes me think that was one our teacher's many gags on the students, one which I have believed for about 20 years now.

96 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:10:22am

re: #90 iceweasel

I'm with ya...all but the beans, swap 'em for crispy hash browns...now you're talkin = )

97 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:11:10am

re: #92 gmsc

Good night

98 Neutral President  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:11:42am

re: #94 Fenway_Nation

I usually put hot sauce on my scrambled eggs.

Me too. Franks, Tabasco, or Tapatio depending on what I have available.

99 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:13:58am

re: #95 ArchangelMichael

I think you got taken. I've never had it in Germany, but in the places I've been served it it's blood pudding. I guess it does kind of look like it could be a testicle but it's not. It's disgusting enough as it is, brrrr.re: #96 srb1976

I'm with ya...all but the beans, swap 'em for crispy hash browns...now you're talkin = )

I don't know why the beans work, but they do. :(

Your strawberries sound much nicer, though!

100 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:14:27am

re: #95 ArchangelMichael

I think they are just made with regular intestine type casing....it's mostly the blood part that hangs people up (I will freely admit to never having tried it either)

101 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:18:40am

re: #99 iceweasel

One of my favorite things about summer is being able to get really good, ripe, fresh fruit....makes the heat and humidity worth it

102 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:19:07am

re: #61 mrshankly01

where is everyone tonight

Well, I've been perusing abstracts submitted as part of a conference (just last week) at OSU on Abrupt Climate Change. Interested in knowing what happened to Africa 5500 years ago?

103 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:22:54am

re: #102 freetoken

Well, I've been perusing abstracts submitted as part of a conference (just last week) at OSU on Abrupt Climate Change. Interested in knowing what happened to Africa 5500 years ago?

Yes. Tell us a story, please.

104 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:23:13am

re: #101 srb1976

One of my favorite things about summer is being able to get really good, ripe, fresh fruit....makes the heat and humidity worth it

And a nice Sauvignon Blanc.

105 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:23:54am

re: #104 Sharmuta

And a nice Sauvignon Blanc.

Or Reisling. And brie!

106 haakondahl  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:26:49am

re: #77 Sharmuta

Sausage- goes better with syrup.

Next time you're at McDonald's, dip your fries in a vanilla shake.

107 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:27:19am

re: #105 iceweasel

Or Reisling. And brie!

Or a nice little blended French white.

108 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:28:00am

re: #106 haakondahl

Next time you're at McDonald's, dip your fries in a vanilla shake.

For fries, it's gotta be curly fries, and white gravy....it'll kill ya, but it's good = )

109 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:30:40am

Or a Mosscato. Damn- I need to go wine shopping now.

110 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:33:24am

re: #109 Sharmuta

Or a Mosscato. Damn- I need to go wine shopping now.

I'll take your recommendations any time!

111 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:33:54am

OT, but damn-- gawker is really letting John Edwards have it:

John Edwards Is Still a Deluded Narcissist

To be fair, a personality disorder is not the sort of thing that just takes care of itself overnight. Still, in an interview with the Washington Post, shamed horndog mill-worker's-son John Edwards sounds kinda self-important, still.

The guy won't even admit that running for president in 2008—when his wife's cancer came back as the Enquirer reported on his affair with a crazy lady—was maybe a bad idea!

"He said that for all the trauma that came of the 2008 campaign, he is not ready to declare that it had been a mistake to run, calling that a "very complex question." He believed, he said, that he had pushed Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton in a more progressive direction on issues including health care — Edwards was the first to propose an individual insurance mandate — and that the value of his having run will be determined partly by what Obama achieves on these fronts.

"Did it make sense to run and stay in the race? Time will tell," he said."

TIME TOLD, JOHN. IT WAS STUPID.

(snip)

Even back when you weren't a complete loser, you always sounded smarmy and insincere and pandery, when you talked about the poor poor people.

[Link: gawker.com...]

Gawker tagged the article "Assholes". Hee.

112 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:34:59am

The local Vicar explains that he must move on to a larger congregation that
will pay him more.

There is a hush within the congregation. No one wants him to leave.

Mike Smith, who owns several car dealerships in the area, stands up and
proclaims:

' If the Vicar stays, I will provide him with a new BMW every year and his
wife with a Honda mini-van to transport their children! '

The congregation sighs in appreciation and applauds.

Sam Brown, a successful entrepreneur and publican, stands and says, ' If the
Vicar will stay on here I 'll personally double his salary and establish a
foundation to guarantee private secondary school education of his children!
'

More sighs and loud applause.

Agnes Jones, age 88, stands and announces with a smile,

' If the Vicar stays, I will give him sex. '

There is total silence..

The Preacher, blushing, asks her:

' Mrs. Jones, whatever possessed you to say that? '

Agnes ' s 90-year old husband, Joe, is now trying to hide, holding his
forehead with the palm of his hand and shaking his head from side to side,
while his wife replies:

' Well, I just asked my husband how we could help, and he said, ' fuck him!

113 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:38:29am

re: #110 iceweasel

For a warm, humid summer night, I like a crisp, citrusy Sauv Blanc, and I really like the Kenwood.

Hard to go wrong with any Italian Moscato di Asti. They make great aperitif or pair it with some fruit. It's not muggy night wine, though, but I'd drink it anytime.

I just think of summer and white wines as belong together.

114 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:38:43am

re: #109 Sharmuta

Mosscato and curly fries- check.

115 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:39:08am
116 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:50:20am

re: #103 iceweasel

Yes. Tell us a story, please.

A long time ago (5500 years) on a continent far, far way (Africa), the world changed for the plants, animals, and people who lived in that land. For 9000 years they had lived in an area with good monsoonal rains, that made the land green and allowed the animals and humans to flourish.

But that land turned into the largest stretch of desert - the Sahara, and the people and the animals were not happy campers.

That period of time (in that land) is called the African Humid Period (AHP). The wiki link takes to you a discussion of a large lake left over from that period, and introduced you to the controversy over how quickly the AHP ended.

The research presented this week (erroneously stated by myself as happening last week) confirms the idea that the termination of this period happened quickly (in geological terms), probably within 1 to 2 centuries. The research was taking core samples off the African west coast (through a range of latitudes) and analyzing the dust sediments.

The summary (see pg 21):

Our preliminary results on the N-S sediment core transect indicate that an abrupt termination of the AHP near 5.5 ka BP can be traced from Senegal to the Canary Islands (roughly 18-28°N). Most cores have sedimentation rates that were considerably lower than at Site 658, and thus have lower resolution, but the AHP transitions were always more rapid than expected from linear orbital monsoon forcing alone. Surprisingly, we find that the end of the AHP occurred nearly synchronously for all cores along this transect, suggesting a very rapid and spatially extensive retreat of the African monsoonal rains near 5.5 ka BP.

More information than you might be interested in, but.... better too much than too little.

I became interested in this as not long ago I was reading up on how the civilization in ancient Egypt started, got drawn to a discussion of evidence of early human civilization (pre Pharaoh) in SW Egypt, which led naturally enough to discussions about the AHP.

In the big picture, the hypothesis would look like this:

rapid climate change ➠ humans migrating from pasteur lands to the Nile ➠ the rise of Ancient Egypt along the Nile.

117 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:52:47am

PIMF "pasture"

118 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:56:39am

Now this is so cool!

Public release date: 17-Jun-2009
Contact: Gaetano Di Achille
Gaetano.Diachille@colorado.edu
[phone number removed]
University of Colorado at Boulder

University of Colorado team finds definitive evidence for ancient lake on Mars
First unambiguous evidence for shorelines on the surface of Mars, say researchers


A University of Colorado at Boulder research team has discovered the first definitive evidence of shorelines on Mars, an indication of a deep, ancient lake there and a finding with implications for the discovery of past life on the Red Planet.

Estimated to be more than 3 billion years old, the lake appears to have covered as much as 80 square miles and was up to 1,500 feet deep -- roughly the equivalent of Lake Champlain bordering the United States and Canada, said CU-Boulder Research Associate Gaetano Di Achille, who led the study. The shoreline evidence, found along a broad delta, included a series of alternating ridges and troughs thought to be surviving remnants of beach deposits.

"This is the first unambiguous evidence of shorelines on the surface of Mars," said Di Achille. "The identification of the shorelines and accompanying geological evidence allows us to calculate the size and volume of the lake, which appears to have formed about 3.4 billion years ago."

119 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:57:01am

Life migrates towards water. Makes sense.

120 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:57:55am

Is it just me, or are the comment numbers getting larger? Is this some weird new phenomenon?

121 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:59:06am

re: #116 freetoken

Free, I am amazed nearly every day, at the truly awe-inspiring or deeply interesting research made public by one team or another... the AHP and its demise is but ONE example of such interesting research...

The news from Talk PolyWell indicates we're on the path to CHEAP, SAFE energy!

And before I even get this comment posted, a Lake on Mars! Zowie!

122 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:59:29am

re: #119 Sharmuta

Life migrates towards water. Makes sense.

NASA tries so hard to discount even the possibility of life on Mars, so some independent study is nice to have to beat NASA about the head and shoulders.

123 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:59:46am

re: #120 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is it just me, or are the comment numbers getting larger? Is this some weird new phenomenon?

My kids have been on my laptop. I thought they somehow changed the settings.

124 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:59:48am

re: #120 FurryOldGuyJeans

Your eyes are gittin' smaller, Old GaiJin...

125 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

126 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:00:53am

re: #125 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Good Morning and fruitcup is tasty today. Thanks

127 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:02:06am

Hiya Erik! :-)

All by yourself today? Has your family arrived in Florida?

128 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:02:08am

re: #125 littleoldlady

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->

My, my... you are treating us to some of your creativity this morning, eh?

129 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:02:34am

re: #124 Karridine

Your eyes are gittin' smaller, Old GaiJin...

T'ain't only the eyes getting smaller. :%P%

130 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:02:43am

re: #125 littleoldlady

Had to take a break from the stuff they pay me to do, just for fruit cup!
(really helps with the sleepies ) = )

131 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:02:52am
132 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:03:00am

re: #121 Karridine

Free, I am amazed nearly every day, at the truly awe-inspiring or deeply interesting research made public by one team or another...

It is amazing too what a wide variety of topics crop up on this blog, too.

133 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:03:07am

freetoken! :-)

Good thing you're here, because I'm having trouble waking up this morning... ;-)

134 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:03:58am

re: #130 srb1976

srb! :-)

I'm working on a "system" that will have fruitcup paying both of us! ;-)

135 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:04:20am

re: #118 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yes, very cool! Better yet, would be to have an expedition there and get some samples!

/Billions and billions of dollars... oh well.

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:04:24am

Another "take" on the Martian lake:

First hard evidence found of a lake on Mars
Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:29pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A long, deep canyon and the remains of beaches are perhaps the clearest evidence yet of a standing lake on the surface of Mars -- one that apparently contained water when the planet was supposed to have already dried up, scientists said on Wednesday.

Images from a camera called the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment aboard the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter indicate water carved a 30-mile-(50-km-)long canyon, a team at the University of Colorado at Boulder reported.

It would have covered 80 square miles (200 sq km) and been up to 1,500 feet deep, the researchers wrote in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

There is now no dispute that water exists on the surface or Mars -- robot explorers have found ice. There is also evidence that water may still seep to the surface from underground, although it quickly disappears in the cold, thin atmosphere of the red planet.

This is the first I have heard of ice on Mars, whoa!

137 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:04:43am

Matrix! :-)

Okay, that's funny.

138 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:05:23am

re: #127 littleoldlady

Hiya Erik! :-)

All by yourself today? Has your family arrived in Florida?

They left for a 5 week vacation in Europe yesterday. They arrive in Orlando on the 2 Aug.
I changed my ticket from the 24 June to the 2cd July. Will be my first Independence Day(In The USA) in 20 years. Looking forward to a great party.

139 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:05:29am

re: #133 littleoldlady

Well, I'll be tapping out for a while... fading fast.

140 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:05:30am

re: #134 littleoldlady

srb! :-)

I'm working on a "system" that will have fruitcup paying both of us! ;-)

I am all for that....let me know what I can do! = )

141 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:07:54am

re: #125 littleoldlady

Thanks, {lol}! Just for you:

142 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:10:17am

re: #135 freetoken

Yes, very cool! Better yet, would be to have an expedition there and get some samples!

/Billions and billions of dollars... oh well.

Looks like NASA and Obama are soon going to be apologizing for our having beaten the Soviets to the moon:

NASA heads to moon as panel weighs its future
Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:28pm EDT
By Irene Klotz

CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (Reuters) - As NASA prepared to launch its debut mission in a program aimed at returning astronauts to the moon, a presidential panel on Wednesday began looking at alternative ways to get there and whether the United States should even go.

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, scheduled to launch from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:12 p.m. on Thursday, is designed to map the lunar surface so NASA can find safe and scientifically interesting landing spots for future human missions.

The United States is shifting the focus of its human space program from research and technology development in low-Earth orbit with the space shuttle and International Space Station to an exploration initiative. That would culminate in the return of U.S. astronauts to the moon in 2020 -- a half-century after the pioneering Apollo lunar landings of 1969 to 1972.

NASA plans to retire the shuttle fleet in 2010 after eight more missions to complete space station construction. It would then shift funding to ramp up development of a pair of expendable rockets, known as Ares, and a beefed-up Apollo-style capsule called Orion that can ferry crews to the moon and other destinations.

Orion's debut flight to the space station is targeted for 2015 -- five years after the shuttle stops flying.

With costs estimated at more than $100 billion for a lunar excursion and concerns about the five-year gap, President Barack Obama has ordered a top-level review of the U.S. human space program.

Amazing the priorities the guy has, to bankrupt the US first so anything else can be safely ignored.

143 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:13:06am

re: #141 Sharmuta

FABULOUS! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

144 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:13:48am

WTF is this? A slow news day?

PETA Wishes Obama Hadn't Swatted That Fly

PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.

145 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:13:54am

re: #142 FurryOldGuyJeans

That's ok, I heard somewhere that NASA is making plans to detonate a giant explosive on the moon...to check for ice.

Maybe it's just a cover for sour grapes "If we can't go back to the moon, no one else can go to the moon either" = )

146 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:14:15am

re: #143 littleoldlady

I'm glad you liked it. :)

147 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:14:41am

Report: NKorea may fire missile toward Hawaii
Jun 18 01:15 AM US/Eastern
By HYUNG-JIN KIM
Associated Press Writer

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea may launch a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii in early July, a Japanese news report said Thursday, as Russia and China urged the regime to return to international disarmament talks on its rogue nuclear program.

The missile, believed to be a long-range Taepodong-2, would be launched from North Korea's Dongchang-ni site on the northwestern coast, said the Yomiuri daily, Japan's top-selling newspaper. It cited an analysis by the Japanese Defense Ministry and intelligence gathered by U.S. reconnaissance satellites.

The missile launch could come between July 4 and 8, the paper said.

While the newspaper speculated the Taepodong-2 could fly over Japan and toward Hawaii, it said the missile would not be able to hit Hawaii's main islands, which are about 4,500 miles (7,200 kilometers) from the Korean peninsula.

A spokesman for the Japanese Defense Ministry declined to comment on the report. South Korea's Defense Ministry and the National Intelligence Service—the country's main spy agency—said they could not confirm it.

148 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:14:56am

re: #144 Erik The Red

WTF is this? A slow news day?

PETA Wishes Obama Hadn't Swatted That Fly

PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.


Just for that, I will be swatting every fly I see for the next few days, even if they are not bothering me = )

149 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:15:21am

re: #134 littleoldlady

A fruitcup app?

150 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:15:59am

re: #147 FurryOldGuyJeans

Report: NKorea may fire missile toward Hawaii
Jun 18 01:15 AM US/Eastern
By HYUNG-JIN KIM
Associated Press Writer

What do we expect? Joe Biden told us there would be a crisis in 6 months.

151 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:16:27am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

A fruitcup app?

Now you're talkin'!

152 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:16:49am

Fenway! :-)

Either that or cash fruitcup gifting! ;-)

153 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:17:36am

re: #150 Sharmuta

What do we expect? Joe Biden told us there would be a crisis in 6 months.

This is crisis number what now? 6? 8?

154 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:19:14am

re: #132 freetoken

It is amazing too what a wide variety of topics crop up on this blog, too.

That speaks well to the range of intelligent interests of the denizens of this blog...

/if I try really hard, I might break my arm patting myself on the back... :D

155 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:20:18am

Man, Cubs home games and St. Louis home games are expensive as shit.

156 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:20:45am

re: #144 Erik The Red

WTF is this? A slow news day?

PETA Wishes Obama Hadn't Swatted That Fly

PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.

Oh PETA. PETA, PETA, PETA. sigh.

I truly can't think of another political organisation that does its own cause more harm than good.

Why can't they start out with the use of chimps and monkeys in medical experiments or something? The mistreatment of dogs and cats and horses? Causes that virtually everyone would be sympathetic to. Fur. And then work their way up to raising awareness about animals more generally?

It's their focussing on stuff like flies and renaming fish 'seakittens' that makes people automatically dismiss their all their claims. What a waste.

157 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:21:46am

Karridine! :-)

/if I try really hard, I might break my arm patting myself on the back.

Don't stop! You are one of the most UNIQUE among us!

/well, okay, stop.
//a broken arm may slow you down... ;-)

158 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:23:41am

re: #142 FurryOldGuyJeans

Furry, what stands out in this NASA-report, to MY eyes, is the ABSENCE of any reference to the X-Project winner, the sub-orbital & re-usable flier made of composites and fantastic, high-thrust new engines?

Its like NASA feels compelled to stick with OLD TECHNOLOGY... despite the proofs, no matter the cost...

159 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:25:36am

re: #157 littleoldlady

ROFL!

/you make my day, Lil Olde...
I trust you're well and happy?

160 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:28:24am

re: #159 Karridine

"Well and happy"?

Oh look! A squirrel!

;-)

How's by you and yours, Karridine? Things calm down in the neighborhood?

161 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:28:40am

Jun 16, 2009 10:37 pm US/Central
Store Clerk Murdered; Customers Keep Shopping
Reporting
Pamela Jones

GARY, Ind. (CBS) ― A 26-year-old convenience store clerk was shot and killed in broad daylight in Gary, Ind., and police say witnesses stood by and did nothing. CBS 2's Pamela Jones reports there are critical clues that may help crack the case.

Police say one of the four men caught on surveillance video bursting into the clerk's booth at the convenience store was about to commit murder. The video shows a man in red run up an aisle and kick in the door to the booth. Within seconds, the clerk, Gurjeet Singh, was shot in the neck.

"It was senseless. And really all homicides are senseless but what we gather from this, there was very little resistance," said Gary Police Department Commander Anthony Titus. "It didn't have to end the way it did."

But Titus says what's even more senseless is the apparent inaction of bystanders standing near the front door almost the whole time.

162 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:31:35am

re: #158 Karridine

Furry, what stands out in this NASA-report, to MY eyes, is the ABSENCE of any reference to the X-Project winner, the sub-orbital & re-usable flier made of composites and fantastic, high-thrust new engines?

Its like NASA feels compelled to stick with OLD TECHNOLOGY... despite the proofs, no matter the cost...

NASA has been constrained since the end of the manned moon mission era, by politics and budget. "We won the moon race so why continue exploring space with people?" is the operative meme.

163 srb1976  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:31:37am

re: #161 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some days, people just suck!

164 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:32:16am

re: #161 FurryOldGuyJeans

Shades of Kitty Genovese! :-(

165 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:32:56am

Speaking of diverse topics.... I just posted in the spin-offs a link to the BBC story on one of the weirder, and sadder, crime stories. Has to do with "Pregnancy Denial" disorder.

/humans can be so strange

166 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:33:12am

re: #163 srb1976

Some days, people just suck!

Here in the Seattle area that suckiness is nearly EVERY day. :%P%

167 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:34:19am

Since we're all over the place- more music

168 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:35:12am

re: #111 iceweasel I read the itle of that article and had to double take. First look came up as denuded arsonist instead of deluded narcissist.

169 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:38:38am

Denuded Arsonist?!

rustler! :-)

170 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:39:38am

re: #144 Erik The Red
That fly was on him like he was literally full of shit instead of the figurative use I usually use in reference to him.

171 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:41:21am

That PETA thing is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day, and I heard someone tell me a rumor they heard about Chris Paul going to the Lakers for Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, and Luke Walton.

172 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:42:08am

re: #165 freetoken

Speaking of diverse topics.... I just posted in the spin-offs a link to the BBC story on one of the weirder, and sadder, crime stories. Has to do with "Pregnancy Denial" disorder.

/humans can be so strange

I just went and read that; I hadn't heard anything about it. I don't know what to think. So sad.

The figures the paper gave were startling - every year in France, between 1,600 and 2,000 women apparently suffer from pregnancy denial, and at least 230 discover or admit they're pregnant only at the moment they give birth.

Surprisingly, most of the examples cited were not of teenage girls who had never had a baby - they were mainly mothers of at least two children who were all so mentally opposed to the thought of having another child that they didn't show a single physical symptom of their pregnancy.

Apart from a tiny weight gain of one or two kilos there were no visible changes to their bodies. Many of the women even continued to menstruate - the need to deny the pregnancy was so strong, explained doctors, that the mind controlled the body and suppressed all external manifestations of the pregnancy.

I guess I can believe in the existence of this disorder; I even know some women who were pregnant and kept getting their periods, so I can believe that it's in principle possible for the mind to suppress the physical symptoms...but the article makes it sound somewhat difficult to believe that's what happened to her. Some of her statements seem to suggest she did know she was pregnant.

I don't know. What a sad and awful story though.

173 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:42:58am

Jun 16, 2009 5:24 pm US/Central
Nearly 60% Won't Graduate At South Side School
44 Of 77 Students At Bradwell Elementary Did Not Pass Eighth Grade
Reporting
Jim Williams

CHICAGO (CBS) ― A startling number of children are falling through the cracks at one Chicago Public School. More than half of the kids didn't even pass the eighth grade. As CBS 2's Jim Williams reports there is fierce debate about who's to blame.

It is a debate that has gone on for years in poor communities: do you blame the schools for the students' poor performance or do you blame their parents?

The mother of a one student who failed eighth grade says she got no warning her son was struggling. The school says she was notified, and other parents insist she did not do enough.

174 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:44:53am

re: #173 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hmm....this must be the educational system that 0bama and Ayers did so well in overhauling.

175 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:45:53am

re: #174 Fenway_Nation

Hmm....this must be the educational system that 0bama and Ayers did so well in overhauling.

Touche. And updinged.

176 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:47:31am

re: #175 iceweasel

Touche. And updinged.

But if I hadn't posted the article he couldn't have come up with the "zinger".

/ shameless karma whoring ;)

177 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:48:02am

re: #172 iceweasel There is also a "false pregnancy" condition known as pseudocyesis. Where the need to get pregnant is so strong it forces changes in the body and mimics pregnancy.

178 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:48:36am

Furry- you've found some great stories this morning. Do you know how to post spinoff links? They should go up there.

179 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:49:36am

re: #178 Sharmuta

Furry- you've found some great stories this morning. Do you know how to post spinoff links? They should go up there.

Yes, I know, but I like 'em better in the body.

180 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:50:59am

re: #176 FurryOldGuyJeans

I updinged you again, you shameless hussy. :)

181 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:51:00am

re: #179 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yeah- but come later in the morning, no one else will see them.

182 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:51:08am

re: #172 iceweasel Here is a longer article about False pregnancies in the NYTimes.

183 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:51:23am

re: #156 iceweasel

Oh PETA. PETA, PETA, PETA. sigh.

I truly can't think of another political organisation that does its own cause more harm than good.

Why can't they start out with the use of chimps and monkeys in medical experiments or something? The mistreatment of dogs and cats and horses? Causes that virtually everyone would be sympathetic to. Fur. And then work their way up to raising awareness about animals more generally?

It's their focussing on stuff like flies and renaming fish 'seakittens' that makes people automatically dismiss their all their claims. What a waste.

It's because their President, Ingrid Newkirk, is insane.

Let's not forget her recent brilliant idea to sell tofu flavored with George Clooney's sweat.

184 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:52:51am

re: #183 SixDegrees

It's because their President, Ingrid Newkirk, is insane.

Let's not forget her recent brilliant idea to sell tofu flavored with George Clooney's sweat.

Definitely you win. Please don't make me read that just yet. I promise I will.

185 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:53:06am

re: #180 iceweasel

I updinged you again, you shameless hussy. :)

Oooh, my leg just tingled! ;)

186 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:54:44am

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

A long, deep canyon and the remains of beaches


Let's go to the beach! Margaritaville on Mars.
Morning all. I've done a quick fruitless search for Iran news, is there anything new? Big march planned today, I know.

187 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:56:50am

re: #181 Sharmuta

Yeah- but come later in the morning, no one else will see them.

Boy, you really want to roust the lazy dude, doncha? ;)

188 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:02am

re: #182 Rustler

Here is a longer article about False pregnancies in the NYTimes.

I'm going to check that out right now.

Did people see the coverage of the fake baby blogger recently? Some woman who started a blog claiming she was pregnant and that the baby had a rare disease and would die soon after birth.

She blogged that she was going to have the baby anyway, and over the months her blog became popular with the anti-abortion and Christian crowd, as well as thousands of women, mothers and not, who felt great empathy for her. She had a PO Box and people started sending her presents and (supposedly) some money.

She put up photos of the 'baby' when she had it and then blogged that it had died....and people recognised the 'baby' as a doll.

All hell broke loose and she was outed and forced to apologise. She's claiming a mental condition.

189 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:18am
190 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:25am

re: #186 jim in virginia

Let's go to the beach! Margaritaville on Mars.
Morning all. I've done a quick fruitless search for Iran news, is there anything new? Big march planned today, I know.

Fruitless? You've come to the right place!

{My Rove}! :-)

191 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:33am

re: #160 littleoldlady

Ma'am, yes Ma'am, BUT... the reserves and backups are starting to wear thin, and there is a palpable whine from the bearings... the South is becoming more 'restive' and meth(amphetamine) factories are once again in full crank!

The economy is bad, getting worse and the politicians polish their shoes with THE WRONG STUFF!

192 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:48am

re: #184 iceweasel

Definitely you win. Please don't make me read that just yet. I promise I will.

I love Clooney's response: "As a mammal, I'm offended."

193 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:59am

Random question- I tried applying online for a job in Pennsylvania last week, but was having trouble opening up the online application form. So I called their somewhat bemused HR department and asked for a 'regular' application that could be mailed to me so I could fill it out and fax or mail it back to them.

The application form arrived in the mail yesterday (a pretty strightforward two pages). I relayed this to some of my friends when I went to the bar last night- they took it as a good sign that this company went through the trouble of sending me an application by regular mail upon request. I kinda saw it as the company humoring me....

194 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:58:07am

re: #184 iceweasel

Definitely you win. Please don't make me read that just yet. I promise I will.


Ewwwww.

195 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:59:27am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

I think it sounds like a good sign! I'll be hoping so for you anyway.

196 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:00:23am

re: #182 Rustler

Damn....every time the NY Times is linked, I'm going to think of that riddle for the NY Time chief editor-

Q: What's Black & white and red all over?

A: Your balance sheet.

197 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:01:31am

re: #191 Karridine

OY! :-(

198 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:02:07am

re: #196 Fenway_Nation

Did you get a chance to watch the vid? You should, that's not even the best part. I promise.

he tells them they're like a living Colonial Williamsburg, among other things.

199 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:02:22am

re: #183 SixDegrees

It's because their President, Ingrid Newkirk, is insane.

Let's not forget her recent brilliant idea to sell tofu flavored with George Clooney's sweat.

Thilling! Tofu with Clooney's nasty sweat-born pathogens! Gag!

200 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:02:23am

re: #179 FurryOldGuyJeans

Agree with Sharm... put them in the spin-offs!

Quality links are always appreciated by some, who will never ding you but yet they click.

Also, and how I can put this... there are a few posters who (regularly) put up links that frankly only are there to pimp their own blog. While Charles has never complained, it does appear to be self serving. Plus most of them are of no substance. Or worse.

So yes, when you have an interesting story, post it!

201 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:02:45am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

Either way - even if it's only a very good "customer service" style approach to potential employees - it's ALL GOOD.

Where in Pennsylvania?

202 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:03:05am

re: #189 Sharmuta

Breaking: Insurgent ambush kills 24 Algerian police - report

Islamist violence breaking out all over:

17 killed in Somalia as Islamists battle govt

203 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:04:38am

re: #200 freetoken

I'm very seriously addicted to the spinoff links! I come back several times a day to catch up on them, even though I may not have time to read the threads.

/is there a cure? ;-)

204 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:04:46am

And finally... I'm watching Eyes Wide Shut (on my computer, while doing everything else...). I saw it when it first came out in '99 on the big screen. I realize how much I missed in one viewing.

Kubrick was a genius, even if it wasn't his best film.

206 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:07:00am

Iran has banned CNN from covering the street demo today.
Christine Amanpour didn't kiss their butts enough?

207 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:07:29am

re: #204 freetoken

I love Kubrick but I hated that film with a flamey-white passion. Then again, I did only see it once. Does it really improve on reviewing?

208 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:07:51am

re: #121 Karridine

Page 2 indicates a false report. So, not yet.

Besides, the greenies would not like lowcost power.

209 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:08:28am

re: #201 littleoldlady

Scranton area.

210 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:09:11am

re: #203 littleoldlady


/is there a cure? ;-)

Chocolate?

/It works for everything... else.

211 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:10:41am

re: #198 iceweasel


Haven't seen it yet- I think Dennis Miller played the audio of some of that on his show the other day.

212 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:10:52am

re: #210 freetoken

You may be right...

213 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:11:02am

re: #204 freetoken

And finally... I'm watching Eyes Wide Shut (on my computer, while doing everything else...). I saw it when it first came out in '99 on the big screen. I realize how much I missed in one viewing.

Kubrick was a genius, even if it wasn't his best film.

Some film are like that. I always say that about 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind'. Gotta watch it twice.

214 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:11:03am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

Depends on your skill set and what the firm needs. We're almost in a hiring mode, have been looking around at candidates. For specific technical/ management skills, the number of good candidates is still limited.

215 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:11:26am

re: #207 iceweasel

On the small screen, where one can study the image and notice all those little things missed on the first viewing in a crowded and noisy theater... what comes across is an attempt to pack quite a bit into the movie.

Of course he died before completing it... which is a bummer.

I do appreciate Kubrick's appreciation for the human capacity for depravity.

216 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:11:39am

re: #203 littleoldlady

More cowbell?

217 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:12:19am

Right on, Furry- I gave you some dings.

218 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:13:09am

re: #214 jim in virginia

Zero relevant skills to the position advertised as open.

The good news is they provide entry-level training. The bad news is they prefer to hire locally.

219 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:13:41am

re: #216 Fenway_Nation

Talk about the way to a woman's heart!

220 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:15:07am

re: #205 Fenway_Nation

What is it with phonies trying to fake a bunch of people and trying to write it off as mental illness?

I don't know what is going on with these people. I remember that story. You can sort of understand if they're motivated by money (although not forgive, of course) but so many of them seem to be craving something else, like attention or power. It's so fucked up.

And what about Tania Head, the woman who claimed to be a 9/11 survivor and headed up some victims' organisations?

[Link: www.spiked-online.com...]

221 littleoldlady  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:16:47am

I just substituted one addiction for another. :-(

/OY! OY! OY!

Good day, ALL!™

222 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:18:53am

See you later, lol!

223 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:19:27am

re: #215 freetoken


I do appreciate Kubrick's appreciation for the human capacity for depravity.

That's for sure. I can agree with you on that. Clockwork Orange is probably the best example.

I think part of my problem with Eyes Wide Shut is that it seemed very....dated. I understand the central shock, husband discovering wife has desires he knows nothing about,-- but the way it's played out in the movie seems so old fashioned and odd.

It is based on a novel by some Viennese guy in the 30's, IIRC, and I think that goes some way towards explaining how terribly un-shocking it is.

224 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:20:00am

bye, LoL!

225 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:24:43am

Good Morning LGF.
FWIW an Iranian ex-pat colleague of mine thinks that today's demonstration will probably mark the beginning of the end of the election crisis unless there is just enough, but not too much, brutal violence on the part of the police and revolutionary guard. He believes that if there is either too little, or too much violence, the opposition will start to lose steam and fizzle.

226 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:24:55am

re: #220 iceweasel

The douchespigot in Colorado claimed to be both a 9/11 survivor and a Iraq war vet....so there's a two-fer!

Oh...and what [new] media bias? I tried doing a search using 'phony soldier' and '[location]'...the first several hits that came back were 'progressive' blogs howling at the moon about Rush Limbaugh's "phony Soldier" remark a few years back when it was pretty clear he was referring to turds like Jesse MacBeth and Rick Duncan [who was still fooling people about his credentials @ the time]...

227 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:25:36am

re: #221 littleoldlady

Bye, LoL!

228 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:27:38am

re: #214 jim in virginia

Depends on your skill set and what the firm needs. We're almost in a hiring mode, have been looking around at candidates. For specific technical/ management skills, the number of good candidates is still limited.

What sort of positions may be opening? and what sort of manegerial skill sets?

229 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:27:50am

re: #226 Fenway_Nation

The douchespigot in Colorado claimed to be both a 9/11 survivor and a Iraq war vet....so there's a two-fer!

Oh...and what [new] media bias? I tried doing a search using 'phony soldier' and '[location]'...the first several hits that came back were 'progressive' blogs howling at the moon about Rush Limbaugh's "phony Soldier" remark a few years back when it was pretty clear he was referring to turds like Jesse MacBeth and Rick Duncan [who was still fooling people about his credentials @ the time]...

Jesse Macbeth is a douchebag, no doubt about it-- but if I'm recalling the transcript of Rush's remarks correctly, (he was talking to a caller) it sounded like he was calling all vets who were opposed to the war 'phony soldiers'.
Let me go find the transcript and see....

230 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:28:18am

Ingrid "Howlin' Mad" Newkirk writes:

The technology actually exists to take your perspiration and make it into George Clooney-flavored tofu (CloFu).

Hmmm. I've been saying for years that they ought to sell dick-flavored Pringles™ -- I think there'd be a huge market for them among gay men who are too lazy and/or broke to hunt for sex partners at some crowded bar, not to mention bi-curious married guys seeking a way to satisfy that urge for tubesteak without the risk and guilt of going on the DL.

So apparently the technology is already there... now I just need to find an industrial food chemist and some financial backers.

231 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:29:07am

re: #228 songbird
Civil engineers. Hampton Roads area, possibly Northern Virginia.

232 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:30:52am

re: #230 Throbert McGee But wouldn't you want to market, hmm, cucumbers instead of Pringles?

233 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:31:24am

re: #230 Throbert McGee

I always thought ass-flavored Milk Bones would be a huge hit with the pooches.

234 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:31:28am

re: #223 iceweasel


It is based on a novel by some Viennese guy in the 30's, IIRC, and I think that goes some way towards explaining how terribly un-shocking it is.

While the idea of unfaithful spouses and kinky sex is not shocking to today's audience, I agree, what I find more interesting about the movie are the little details he went into in order to portray the "social" class as something truly repugnant at their heart... almost sort of the ultimate sin. That is, other people are only there for our most temporal and carnal pleasure.

235 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:32:02am

re: #230 Throbert McGee

I dunno, I think some of the flavours of Pringles might already taste like dick.

236 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:32:44am

Morning Lizards.

237 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:36:23am

re: #234 freetoken

You know, that's very true, now that you mention it. There is a whole kind of decadence of the social class thing going on. And now that I'm thinking of it, that lame-ass orgy scene which is so terribly banal might be supposed to be a reflection of how depraved the rich are--so satiated that they can't even arouse themselves in that setting.

Hmmm. I'll have to watch it again now with your points in mind. Thanks!

238 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:36:39am

The problem with Obama's Iran approach

WaPo: Obama Seeks Way to Acknowledge Protesters Without Alienating Ayatollah.
Yeah, we certainly don't want to alienate them. They might, you know, be offended and seize our embassy , or start a nucular program.

239 jim in virginia  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:38:20am

Rain today.
Rain tomorrow.
For a change, rain Saturday.

I'm melting.

240 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:39:23am

re: #237 iceweasel

You know, that's very true, now that you mention it. There is a whole kind of decadence of the social class thing going on. And now that I'm thinking of it, that lame-ass orgy scene which is so terribly banal might be supposed to be a reflection of how depraved the rich are--so satiated that they can't even arouse themselves in that setting.

Yes, they are portrayed as seriously addicted - alcohol, drugs, sex (money, power, etc.) and even more so, how numb they have become to all of it. Pleasure is gained by making others succumb to their sins.

241 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:39:29am

re: #238 jim in virginia

The problem with Obama's Iran approach

WaPo: Obama Seeks Way to Acknowledge Protesters Without Alienating Ayatollah.
Yeah, we certainly don't want to alienate them. They might, you know, be offended and seize our embassy , or start a nucular program.

all while chanting "Death to America!"

/tough love 'em right back!

242 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:39:50am

re: #229 iceweasel

It was awhile ago, but I think he was calling Iraq Vets Against the War 'phony soldiers' ahead of their Winter Soldier 2.0 meetup....and seeing how people like MacBeth and Duncan gravitated towards IVAW, that's not entirely false....

In the whole manufactured outrage over the 'phony soldiers' statement, it was lost (by design, courtesey of our quisling media) that there were people talking about taking part in committing massacres in Iraq who had never even set foot in a recruiter's office, let alone Iraq!

243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:40:12am
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

— Douglas Adams

What a cool quote.

244 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:40:40am

re: #238 jim in virginia

Or send cash and munitions to proxies in Lebanon, the West Bank or Iraq.

245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:40:41am

re: #239 jim in virginia

Rainist!

246 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:42:31am

Nothing heard, out.

247 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:45:59am

re: #242 Fenway_Nation

It was awhile ago, but I think he was calling Iraq Vets Against the War 'phony soldiers' ahead of their Winter Soldier 2.0 meetup....and seeing how people like MacBeth and Duncan gravitated towards IVAW, that's not entirely false....

In the whole manufactured outrage over the 'phony soldiers' statement, it was lost (by design, courtesey of our quisling media) that there were people talking about taking part in committing massacres in Iraq who had never even set foot in a recruiter's office, let alone Iraq!

I hate to tell you this, but I did just dig up the context of Limbaugh's comments and the transcript-- and that's not what was going on. (It didn't have anything to do with committing massacres in Iraq.)

Someone called in, and asked Rush "Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and suggest that there are absolutely no Republicans that could possibly be against the war? "

In the ensuing melee, the caller said he was a Republican who had served in the military, and Rush refused to believe him.

Then he took another call, from someone else, who said he was in the military--and with that caller Rush had the exchange about 'phony soldiers'.

If one just reads the transcript of his remarks to caller 2, they don't sound that bad....but the full context looks bad.

I can link to the full transcript and audio, but it is on media matters, I warn you. :)

248 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:47:57am

Oh my god....I just had an epiphany.

My mom had misgivings about me joining the Army, no matter how much I tried to reassure her. I remember asking her not to go off the deep end if something happened to me in the line of duty. I didn't want my [hypothetical] death while serving in the Army to be used as somebody else's insturment for personal, political or financial gain.....

It just dawned on me that I was asking her not to be Cindy Sheehan if anything happened to me, nearly a decade before Cindy Sheehan hit the public spotight.

249 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:50:23am

re: #248 Fenway_Nation

Fenway! I didn't know you were in the Army! Respect!

250 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:53:16am

I walk away and come back to dick flavored Pringles. Only LGF.

251 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:55:32am

re: #247 iceweasel

Wow....that's much worse than the MSM giving face-time to the aforementioned phony soldiers, passing them off as the real deal so they could continue to discredit any gains made by the real military personnel in Iraq.

Much worse than motherfuckin' Murtha who pronounced the Marines in Haditha guilty of massacring a whole village before any legal procedings began.

252 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:56:48am

re: #250 Sharmuta

I walk away and come back to dick flavored Pringles. Only LGF.

Only when Throbert McGee is logged in :)

253 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:56:53am

re: #249 iceweasel

I try not to be all John Kerry about it (altho he did serve in 'Nam) and work it into the conversation every 5 minutes....

254 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:57:38am

re: #250 Sharmuta

And what are the ass-flavored milk bones? Chopped liver!?

/if only

255 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:59:21am

re: #232 jim in virginia

But wouldn't you want to market, hmm, cucumbers instead of Pringles?

But I like Pringles better! And cucumbers just don't scream "marketable snack item" to me.

Naturally, some of you may be wondering "what about us poor overlooked heterosexual guys?" But not to worry -- for them, I've invented a delightful iced pastry that tastes like a vagina. I call it, of course, the "Poon Danish™".

256 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:59:39am

re: #251 Fenway_Nation

Wow....that's much worse than the MSM giving face-time to the aforementioned phony soldiers, passing them off as the real deal so they could continue to discredit any gains made by the real military personnel in Iraq.

Much worse than motherfuckin' Murtha who pronounced the Marines in Haditha guilty of massacring a whole village before any legal procedings began.

Dude, I didn't say any of those things! You're the one who brought the whole topic up! I only pointed out the context of the story you yourself mentioned!

If you'd prefer to have a discussion about soldiers being unfairly accused of massacres, we can do that. It's not related to Rush's phony soldiers crack, and I think we're going to wind up agreeing on it. Just saying.

257 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:00:21am

ROTFF

258 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:00:40am

re: #253 Fenway_Nation

I try not to be all John Kerry about it (altho he did serve in 'Nam) and work it into the conversation every 5 minutes....

That's cool. Respect!

259 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:01:17am

re: #254 Fenway_Nation

I gave it a ding- what more can I do?

260 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:01:19am

re: #255 Throbert McGee

But I like Pringles better! And cucumbers just don't scream "marketable snack item" to me.

Naturally, some of you may be wondering "what about us poor overlooked heterosexual guys?" But not to worry -- for them, I've invented a delightful iced pastry that tastes like a vagina. I call it, of course, the "Poon Danish™".

ROTFLMAO. Thanks for thinking about us :)

261 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:01:29am

The Lightworker lets us know he has a light hand and prefers a light touch

262 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:02:10am

re: #255 Throbert McGee

But I like Pringles better! And cucumbers just don't scream "marketable snack item" to me.

Naturally, some of you may be wondering "what about us poor overlooked heterosexual guys?" But not to worry -- for them, I've invented a delightful iced pastry that tastes like a vagina. I call it, of course, the "Poon Danish™".

Why can't it be a flavoured drink mix? You could call it the Poon Tang.

263 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:02:19am

Good morning.

The futures are pointing to a flat opening as investors try to digest the details of the proposed new financial regulations.


The Fred's are already kicking up a fuss over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency that I talked about last night.
Fed Opposes Stripping Central Bank of Consumer-Loan Authority

Federal Reserve officials will oppose the Obama administration’s proposal to strip the central bank of its powers to protect consumers from predatory lending.

Policy makers will resist President Barack Obama’s blueprint because its new Consumer Financial Protection Agency would supplant the Fed’s authority to write rules on lending and disclosure practices on mortgages and credit cards. A review of the role of the 12 regional Fed banks also risks compromising the independence of the Federal Reserve system, said former Fed governor Randall Kroszner.


The CFPA is shaping up to be a political functionary that will have authority to adopt regulations and gather proprietary information without warrant, as they see fit at their own discretion.

264 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:03:31am

re: #259 Sharmuta

I guess let it die the quiet and dignified death that an ass-flavored Milk Bone deserves.

/too lazy to bring up the TM mark....

265 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:05:39am

re: #262 iceweasel

Why can't it be a flavoured drink mix? You could call it the Poon Tang.

I'm pretty sure that Redd Foxx had a comedy routine about "Prune Tang," way back in the '70s.

266 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:06:16am

Has Obama apologized to Iran yet for the violence in their streets?

267 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:06:37am

re: #262 iceweasel

Why can't it be a flavoured drink mix? You could call it the Poon Tang.

OMG- LMAO!

268 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:08:16am

re: #265 Throbert McGee

I'm pretty sure that Redd Foxx had a comedy routine about "Prune Tang," way back in the '70s.

(whispering) I'm not sure I know who Redd Foxx is.... I had to google. :(

Anyway, I do want to point out you neglected to provide for all the gay and bicurious chicks out there. I think a flavoured drink mix is in order.

269 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:09:05am

Oh snap! Forgot to do my (formerly) nightly overseas market & precious metals update.....which are a Polaroid of commodities & Pacific Rim markets in an iPhone world..

270 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:09:09am

re: #256 iceweasel Media Matters quote mines and truncates statement's. Have you looked on Rush's website for the transcript of the show instead of what Media Matters claimed was the Transcript?

271 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:09:52am

re: #267 Sharmuta

OMG- LMAO!

:) Thank you.

I'll be here all week folks. Try the tuna.

/if not the tubesteak.

//hell, both. Surf n turf!

272 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:09:53am

re: #267 Sharmuta

Sharm,

The NIAC website has info that an emergency meeting of the Council of Experts apparently did take place in Qom yesterday. Have you seen anything more about this?

273 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:10:54am

re: #272 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I have not found any news on Iran this morning, but then- I haven't tried very hard.

274 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:10:57am

re: #268 iceweasel

(whispering) I'm not sure I know who Redd Foxx is.... I had to google. :(

You are a youngster, aren't you!

Redd could be very funny... and he was also known to be able to use choice language, so to speak.

275 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:11:09am

re: #273 Sharmuta

Thanks.

276 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:12:08am

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

I guess let it die the quiet and dignified death that an ass-flavored Milk Bone deserves.

/too lazy to bring up the TM mark....

I thought the ass-flavored Milk Bones™ was a great idea, FN. And for doggies who have been very, VERY good: cat-turd Milk Bones™.

277 haakondahl  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:12:22am

re: #247 iceweasel

I hate to tell you this, but I did just dig up the context of Limbaugh's comments and the transcript-- and that's not what was going on. (It didn't have anything to do with committing massacres in Iraq.)

Someone called in, and asked Rush "Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and suggest that there are absolutely no Republicans that could possibly be against the war? "

In the ensuing melee, the caller said he was a Republican who had served in the military, and Rush refused to believe him.

Then he took another call, from someone else, who said he was in the military--and with that caller Rush had the exchange about 'phony soldiers'.

If one just reads the transcript of his remarks to caller 2, they don't sound that bad....but the full context looks bad.

I can link to the full transcript and audio, but it is on media matters, I warn you. :)

The problem that talk radio shows have is "Seminar callers". Whether or not they've been to a seminar on how to push talking points through the media outlets of the opposition, the caller will:
1a) Agree with something or commend the host for something the host has said;
or
1b) State that he (the caller) was just flipping through channels and has never heard the show;
2) Self-identify as somebody who *should* be in basic agreement with the host based on the usual listener base for the show (or the *perceived* usual listener base, which can get quite funny);
3) Say "BUT...";
4) Take exception with something the host has done or said.

Steps 1-3 are the "tells". Most people will not establish their bonafides before disagreeing; most people feel no need to.

This is a phenomenon almost exclusive to talk radio, for a number of reasons (immediacy, broadcast reach, impermanence of the medium, anonymity of the caller, typically contentious topics, and the one-on-one relationship between host and caller). The same way we can sniff out trolls, mobys, stalkers, sock puppets, incipient flounces, and impending meltdowns, a talk show host (and the call screeners) develop a feel for seminar callers.

And once in a while, they get it wrong. So do we. But we should by no means stop screening each other, calling BS when we see it, administering the FCYA process, and so forth.

The problem of context is this: when you describe the problem to people who do *not* spend time listening to talk radio, especially the much-beseiged conservative talk radio, it just sounds apallingly rude. Imagine if an LGF troll takedown or a moby outing were reported by one of the CNN anchors.

278 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:12:28am

The slobbering love affair between the MSM and Obama continues:


President Obama Announces Appointments to the President’s Commission on White House Fellowships

Guess who one of the appointees is?

Tom Brokaw.

279 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:12:42am

re: #270 Rustler

Media Matters quote mines and truncates statement's. Have you looked on Rush's website for the transcript of the show instead of what Media Matters claimed was the Transcript?

Media Matters posted the entire audio. I checked that.

I know it's common to claim that MMA quote mines; in general they do not.
However, they've recently taken to posting video snippets without comment and without the transcript (or links to where you can find the full video/full transcript) --and THAT I'm not happy with. That's only in the last few months though. not a good change.

(BTW, Rush doesn't make all full transcripts available on his site anyway unless you're a paying member, unfortunately).

280 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:14:09am

re: #241 IslandLibertarian

On the other hand, according to Thomas Friedman, "Israeli officials have been saying they would much prefer that Ahmadinejad still wins in Iran — not because Israelis really prefer him but because they believe his thuggish, anti-Semitic behavior reflects the true and immutable character of the Iranian regime. And Israelis fear that if a moderate were to take over, it would not herald any real change in Iran, or its nuclear ambitions, but simply disguise it better." Of course I can't prove the veracity of that statement and nor do I knew which Israeli officials he was talking about. But another theory as to the lack of visible enthusiasm.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]Your text to link...

281 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:15:32am

re: #270 Rustler
Hell even the Bit from Media matters it's the 2nd Mike from Olympia who initiates the Phony soldier talk.

Pulled from the Meida matter article

"Mike, this one from Olympia, Washington," that "[t]here's a lot" that people who favor U.S. withdrawal "don't understand" and that when asked why the United States should pull out, their only answer is, " 'Well, we just gotta bring the troops home.' ... 'Save the -- keeps the troops safe' or whatever," adding, "[I]t's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people." "Mike" from Olympia replied, "No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media." Limbaugh interjected, "The phony soldiers."


Mile's Comments are bolded Rush was merely agreeing with his statement. Calling them Phonies instead of Not real soldiers as Mike put it.

282 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:16:52am

re: #278 3 wood

The slobbering love affair between the MSM and Obama continues:

President Obama Announces Appointments to the President’s Commission on White House Fellowships

Guess who one of the appointees is?

Tom Brokaw.

Is the MSM incesting upon this, or is it happening naturally?

/pun followed by a *spit*

283 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:17:16am

re: #274 freetoken

You are a youngster, aren't you!

Redd could be very funny... and he was also known to be able to use choice language, so to speak.

I'm not that young but you get updinged for suggesting it. Sadly, I'm just pretty ignorant of large swathes of US pop culture.

I've heard before that this guy was funny, just never knew who he was.

284 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:19:06am

A clear and concise picture by Peter Wallison of what the economy will become once the lightworker finishes his miracles:

Too Big to Fail, or Succeed

Basically, imagine a giant Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac sitting atop the highground of every sector.

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:19:55am

re: #283 iceweasel

Redd Foxx and Buddy Hackett were two of the raunchiest comedians ever. Made Lenny Bruce look like an altar boy during a Mass.

286 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:20:46am

Commodity prices tend to be a leading indicator for the macro economy.

Study Finds Prices for Crops Ease


Prices of agricultural commodities should continue to slip during the next few years from their recent peaks, then start to recover after the global downturn has played out, two global financial organizations said Wednesday.

Looks like commodity prices are not down with the hope and change stuff yet.

287 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:21:05am

re: #274 freetoken For Some reason every time I hear the name this Fred Sanford voice in my head starts saying "Hey Dummy"

288 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:21:11am

re: #261 Dar ul Harbarian

The Lightworker lets us know he has a light hand and prefers a light touch

Just sounds creepy to me!

(Ex had a 'light tough' ewww!)

289 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:21:46am

bbl

290 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:23:28am

re: #277 haakondahl

The problem that talk radio shows have is "Seminar callers". Whether or not they've been to a seminar on how to push talking points through the media outlets of the opposition, the caller will:
1a) Agree with something or commend the host for something the host has said;
or
1b) State that he (the caller) was just flipping through channels and has never heard the show;
2) Self-identify as somebody who *should* be in basic agreement with the host based on the usual listener base for the show (or the *perceived* usual listener base, which can get quite funny);
3) Say "BUT...";
4) Take exception with something the host has done or said.

Steps 1-3 are the "tells". Most people will not establish their bonafides before disagreeing; most people feel no need to.

This is a phenomenon almost exclusive to talk radio, for a number of reasons (immediacy, broadcast reach, impermanence of the medium, anonymity of the caller, typically contentious topics, and the one-on-one relationship between host and caller). The same way we can sniff out trolls, mobys, stalkers, sock puppets, incipient flounces, and impending meltdowns, a talk show host (and the call screeners) develop a feel for seminar callers.

And once in a while, they get it wrong. So do we. But we should by no means stop screening each other, calling BS when we see it, administering the FCYA process, and so forth.

The problem of context is this: when you describe the problem to people who do *not* spend time listening to talk radio, especially the much-beseiged conservative talk radio, it just sounds apallingly rude. Imagine if an LGF troll takedown or a moby outing were reported by one of the CNN anchors.

I'm familiar with the problem of seminar callers. I used to listen to a fair amount of Rush, Hannity and even Michael Savage some years ago.

For me the main tell would be someone who claims they never listened to the show before.....but then feels the need to explain exactly where and how they differ from the show's ideology, showing an unusually accurate grasp of the show's ideology and prior claims.

It's not so surprising that someone 'from the other side' might have listened for a long time yet never called in before; such a person IS going to be familiar with the show and WILL feel the need to provide their bona fides/state their context.

It's the claim "i never listened before" combined with weirdly specific knowledge that is the tell-- in my opinion.

291 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:24:05am

re: #284 Dar ul Harbarian

...The same pattern with regard to competitive markets can be seen in the Justice Department's new antitrust policy. Christine Varney, the new assistant attorney general in charge of antitrust policy, has said that U.S. policy should be more like Europe's. Until now, U.S. antitrust policy has tried to protect competition. Europe attempts to protect competitors. Protecting competitors means blunting the skills of superior players, allowing inferior managers and business models to remain in business and thus preventing better managements and business models from emerging. Again, stability wins out over change and progress.

The president has said on several occasions, including in yesterday's speech, that "I've always been a strong believer in the power of the free market." But his administration's prescriptions tell a different story. In AIG, GM, Chrysler, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac we can see the future that the administration envisions for our economy -- a sclerotic and unchanging structure of big companies working with, protected by, and relying on big government.


I threw up a little reading that.
They haven't got a clue.

292 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:24:12am

re: #277 haakondahl

Ah yes....I remember that phenomonon was particularly rampant back in 2004:

"I'm a republican, BUT-"

And then go on this unhinged screed about Iraq, Afghanistan, how 9/11 was being exploited by Bush [yet not Michael Moore], how 9/11 was an inside job, how the Muslim world hates us because of our support for Israel and even a few who say the USA should never have bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, since that makes us the real terrorists....the same shit I'd heard from the international leftists before the North Tower collapsed.

Lately, I'm hearing some shows taking similar-sounding callers, but there's no reason for me to think they're Paulbot seminar callers...

293 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:25:43am

re: #285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Redd Foxx and Buddy Hackett were two of the raunchiest comedians ever. Made Lenny Bruce look like an altar boy during a Mass.

Buddy Hackett? (I did say I was ignorant. I've heard the name but it's all a mystery to me)
I have heard of Lenny Bruce and know of his reputation for smut, but I think I've never heard one of his routines.

But if you want to talk about Bill Hicks I have heard some of him!

294 Sharmuta  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:26:05am

re: #292 Fenway_Nation

Lately, I'm hearing some shows taking similar-sounding callers, but there's no reason for me to think they're Paulbot seminar callers...

Oh- won't those be fun?

295 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:26:55am

re: #292 Fenway_Nation

Lately, I'm hearing some shows taking similar-sounding callers, but there's no reason for me to think they're not Paulbot seminar callers...

oops....PIMF

296 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:27:05am

re: #273 Sharmuta

I have not found any news on Iran this morning, but then- I haven't tried very hard.

Isn't the big demonstration supposed to start right around now?

297 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:27:20am

re: #281 Rustler

Hell even the Bit from Media matters it's the 2nd Mike from Olympia who initiates the Phony soldier talk.

Pulled from the Meida matter article


Mile's Comments are bolded Rush was merely agreeing with his statement. Calling them Phonies instead of Not real soldiers as Mike put it.

I addressed that earlier in my comment to Fenway, and stated why I thought it isn't innocuous.

298 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:27:25am

By the way, on the thread downstairs I saw some references to Glenn Beck's calling Barry Manilow gay. Does anyone happen to know what Beck actually said?

299 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:27:53am

re: #286 3 wood

Commodity prices tend to be a leading indicator for the macro economy.

Study Finds Prices for Crops Ease

Looks like commodity prices are not down with the hope and change stuff yet.

I know that these financial folks keep their eyes on the prize, so to speak.

So I have to think that they are closely watching the Argentine and Brazil projected crop yields, and know the planting woes in the Canadian and US breadbaskets. If, as some weather forecasters are whispering, we have a delayed summer, or worse, no summer, in these areas I say that all bets are off.

Not to mention the Chinese wheat crop.

There just aren't those huge stockpiles of the past. One failed year, or Gaia forbid two running failed years, will shake the world worse than $150/bbl oil.

300 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:30:21am

re: #285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Redd Foxx and Buddy Hackett were two of the raunchiest comedians ever.

Hackett performs "The Shipoopi":

301 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:31:24am

re: #292 Fenway_Nation

Well, that IS weird....and we're all (on both sides) quite wary of someone who pops up claiming "I'm a republican, BUT" or "I'm a liberal, BUT" or whatever. And rightly so. Some of the people doing that are definitely trolls.

On the other hand, there is no denying that the GOP lost a lot of people recently--or maybe they just stayed home in November. So I have to think that some portion of people saying "I'm a republican, BUT--" on some of these shows were telling the truth.

302 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:33:21am

re: #285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Redd Foxx and Buddy Hackett were two of the raunchiest comedians ever. Made Lenny Bruce look like an altar boy during a Mass.

Do you refer to R E D D F O Double Cross?

Ever hear any of his old 'race' records before he made it with the cross-over culture?

Profane, sexist, racist, wise, ignorant and hilarious. Made you laugh out loud and then look around really guilty-like and hope no decent person heard you.

303 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:34:00am

re: #294 Sharmuta


I was listening to Hugh Hewitt the other day- besides Winston, he was actively soliciting calls from Iranian-Americans for their reaction and any possible insight they might offer.

After a few people with Southern drawls (who agreed w/the host) get off the line, this guy (also not an Iranian) calls and starts parroting the 'Arabs-only-hate-us-because-we support-Israel-so-lets-not-support-Israel' talking ponts before Hugh interrupts and asks 'Is this where you tell me all about the USS Liberty?'

304 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:34:35am

Well, now the NYT is at least being open about Obama wanting to ration health care.

Health Care Rationing Rhetoric Overlooks Reality

In this piece, the author puts the reality of rationing health care right up front. His position is though, that the government can do a much better job of rationing healthcare for you and your family than you can.

On Wednesday, a bipartisan panel led by four former Senate majority leaders — Howard Baker, Tom Daschle, Bob Dole and George Mitchell — will release a solid proposal for health care reform. Among other things, it would call on the federal government to do more research on which treatments actually work. An “independent health care council” would also be established, charged with helping the government avoid unnecessary health costs. The Obama administration supports a similar approach.


The new buzzword for government rationing will be "comparative effectiveness".

305 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:35:19am

Piling on

May 28th 2009
From The Economist print edition
In his zeal to fix capitalism, Barack Obama must not stifle America’s dynamism

...These mistakes matter because, for all Mr Obama’s oratory, it will be very hard to reverse course in future. Regulations and interventions spawn constituencies that will fight any paring of their benefits. The federal government created Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the big mortgage agencies, in the interest of raising home-ownership. But long after that goal was met, the housing lobby barred almost all efforts to rein them in. Only massive taxpayer bail-outs have prevented their collapse.

America’s free-market capitalism has always been a model for the rest of the world. By all means fix its flaws, Mr Obama; but do not take its dynamism for granted.

306 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:36:36am

re: #302 razorbacker

Do you refer to R E D D F O Double Cross?

Ever hear any of his old 'race' records before he made it with the cross-over culture?

Profane, sexist, racist, wise, ignorant and hilarious. Made you laugh out loud and then look around really guilty-like and hope no decent person heard you.

Sandford and Son stank.

307 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:38:02am

re: #299 razorbacker

The farmers are going to have areal tough time over the next year or two, especially if "green" regulations such as taxes on cows go into place.

308 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:38:26am

Headed for work.

Later.

309 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:38:49am
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

— Douglas Adams

A Douglas Adams quote! Whoo Hoo!

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a rainy, cold day here in CT. And even worse is that I looked at the 10 day forecast for this area and there is rain in it every day until next Saturday. When did I move to Seattle?

310 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:42:04am

Amazing what you find on the interwebs!

I just found a group picture with me in it from 1979 published by a ministry group that I was with at the time! I was close to 18 then!

311 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:44:07am

One Way Street
Why government programs never die.

Government programs don't believe in heaven, but many seem to have eternal life. That federal initiatives grow old but never die is particularly significant today. Fueled by ideology and equipped with a large majority in Congress, President Obama and his allies on Capitol Hill are injecting steroids into Washington's normal propensity to expand.

But is there an exit strategy for the new largesse? The deck is normally stacked against government shrinking itself. Washington rarely takes steps to limit its own power. Ensuring outmoded or ineffective programs don't live in perpetuity is a daunting task.

Last week Republican Senator John Thune of South Dakota proposed an idea that might help. He introduced The Government Ownership Exit Plan. It's a bill to unhinge a door that normally swings one way--toward more expansive government. The legislation requires the Treasury sell any ownership stake in private entities by July 1, 2010. Without a deadline like this, government's grip on the economy will continue indefinitely, and economic growth will suffer. Thune's legislation deserves bipartisan support and quick consideration by the Congress. It's an important weapon to fight an array of incentives, momentum, and biases pointing in the other direction. ...

312 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:44:18am

re: #286 3 wood

Commodity prices tend to be a leading indicator for the macro economy.

Study Finds Prices for Crops Ease

Looks like commodity prices are not down with the hope and change stuff yet.

Tough to say what they'll do. Food prices are highly dependent on energy costs - tilling, harvesting and transportation all contribute, and the fertilizers and pesticides high crop yields absolutely require are derived directly on, or require vast amounts of, oil. Another spike in oil prices will send food prices up right along with it.

313 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:44:19am

re: #309 Ford_Prefect

Morning Ford.

314 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:44:20am

Negotiations with Fluffy are almost complete. Instead of an extra PETA member a day he has agreed to let me continue using his image if I provide him some freaking lasers on his head.

315 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:44:43am

re: #301 iceweasel

I try and listen to Lars Larsen when I can- he encourages 'liberal-progressives' to call in and doesn't feel the need to shout over them like alot of other hosts.

One did call his show the other night and using tortuous logic, said that Larsen had no right to be upset at ABC for airing the 0bama Healthcare plan infomercial (i.e. ABC news) from the White House because Bush would often host conservative talk show hosts at the White House...

316 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:45:18am

re: #314 Rustler
Moral of the story no more Mike Myers for teh Sea Kitteh.

317 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:45:30am

re: #308 3 wood


Bye 3 wood!

318 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:45:38am

re: #315 Fenway_Nation

I try and listen to Lars Larsen when I can- he encourages 'liberal-progressives' to call in and doesn't feel the need to shout over them like alot of other hosts.

One did call his show the other night and using tortuous logic, said that Larsen had no right to be upset at ABC for airing the 0bama Healthcare plan infomercial (i.e. ABC news) from the White House because Bush would often host conservative talk show hosts at the White House...

*blank stare*
I think I felt a bit of my brain oozing out of my ears when I tried to comprehend that.

319 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:45:43am

re: #314 Rustler

Negotiations with Fluffy are almost complete. Instead of an extra PETA member a day he has agreed to let me continue using his image if I provide him some freaking lasers on his head.

If Fluffy is as we know him, you are getting off easy.

320 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:46:18am

re: #313 rightside

Morning Right.

321 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:49:37am

re: #300 Throbert McGee

Ok-- I favourited that-- and I will have to try watching it again, but it might be beyond my ability to appreciate. I might have to admit failure.

It looks profoundly weird to me. This is strange....it feels like time travel or something.
Again, I'm pretty out of the loop for pop culture overall, so, it's definitely me at fault here.

322 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:50:09am

re: #318 thedopefishlives


It's only a fair comparison if ABC admits they're the official mouthpiece, media outlet or cheerleader of the 0bama Admin and the Democrat party.

323 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:51:28am

Very reduced twitter activity from Iran yesterday.

From various tweets. I believe the "IRIB" referred to is state media. And notice the first one, people have figured out a way to participate without going out into the streets, and the 3rd and 4th ones, which indicate Iran govt is blaming the US and Israel:

Every night in Tehran millions of people stand on their balcony and support Sea of Green by chanting 'Allah Akbar' -

also IRG's involvement in controlling Internet & to fight back us is confirmed. I already can see lot more gov's twitts than yesterday.

gov is now running a mass media propaganda about US & Israel joint force working in some Internet sites against Iran

and right now state TV is showing a program about how Evil Internet is and US & Britain & Israel are all behind this! this is ridiculous!

IRIB.ir said that we are all violent thugs - we are showing you everyday that we are peaceful Sea of Green - #Iranelection

All the violence in Iran now is ONLY by Baseej - they are beating people walking in the street, for no reason - #Iranelection

Gov has closed Iran to all foreign communication and news coverage - #Iranelection

They are removing from public profile all people who oppose them - arresting and torturing - #Iranelection&

Today Sea of Green will wear black in respect of those who have been killed by Gov - #Iranelection

government now attacking people who provided proxy for us, I don't know exactly how. but it's confirmed.

any hope we had for Parliament to stand against ahmady is now ruined, they openly support government today.

state TV & Radio went berserk today, all they saying are moosavi's supporters are all criminals & they will stop us at any cost

324 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:51:32am

I've been noticing that a lots of Dems, and left-wingers in general, are all solicitous of the poor benighted Republicans and want to give them advice on how to regain power. Awfully nice of them, I say.

Frankly, there ain't much difference between the two major parties. Hardly enough to get overly excited about.

Prime difference seems to be that when a war-hero Republican is caught taking kick-backs from defense contractors that Republican is run out of office and/or jailed. When a powerful Republican runs his Oldsmobile into the water and lets a young lady die that Republican is run out of office. When a Republican lets his boy-friend run a call-boy ring out of his office he is run out of that office. When a Republican is caught with bundles of cash in his flooded freezer he is run out of office. When a Republican's wife is caught shaking down contributors for cash that Republican is run out of office. When a Republican is caught making racist statements at some old segregationist's birthday party that Republican is run out of office. When a Republican is found to have been a high poobah in the Ku Klux Klan he is run out of office. When a Republican's supporters are caught intimidating voters at the polls that Republican is run out of office.

Hypocrisy is said to be the tribute that vice pays to virtue. When you don't recognize virtue, and see vice as just the way the world works, then you don't have to worry too much about being a hypocrite.

325 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:53:33am

re: #321 iceweasel

Ok-- I favourited that-- and I will have to try watching it again, but it might be beyond my ability to appreciate. I might have to admit failure.

It looks profoundly weird to me. This is strange....it feels like time travel or something.
Again, I'm pretty out of the loop for pop culture overall, so, it's definitely me at fault here.

Good morning, lass, what's up with that that "u?"

326 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:53:50am

I'll hit you lizards with this before I shuffle off to buffalo-

Q: What's the differince between Jimmy Carter and a bad penny?

A: The penny doesn't yell as much when you try cramming it into a coinstar machine

(also would've accepted 'The penny actually has some value')

/Morning rightside! *waves*

327 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:54:30am

We freshwater anglers cannot catch "sea" kittens since lakes and rivers would not qualify. So I guess we're in the clear.
BTW, channel catfish really fight hard and are a lot of fun.
PETA = airhead central

328 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:55:29am

re: #309 Ford_Prefect

A Douglas Adams quote! Whoo Hoo!

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a rainy, cold day here in CT. And even worse is that I looked at the 10 day forecast for this area and there is rain in it every day until next Saturday. When did I move to Seattle?


That's funny....this morning I thought New Jersey had turned into Seattle. I think the only place not Seattle is Seattle. They are having a horrible draught.
Hey Seattle lizards, you can have your rain back!

329 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:55:33am

re: #315 Fenway_Nation

Who is Lars Larsen? I'm always on the lookout for some conservative talk radio to listen to. I don't often get a chance to do it now, but anytime I have an extended drive anywhere in the US I always listen to it.

I'd love to listen to more but I don't get the chance now. Right now I tend to listen to BBC 4 all the time, which is just the best thing ever. Plays and books and interesting stuff. I think "intelligent speech" is their tagline.

330 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:56:53am

re: #325 Flyers1974

Good morning, lass, what's up with that that "u?"

Cheers, Flyers!

Favourited isn't a word anyway, is it? Favour is, and favourite...

S'up?

331 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:57:02am

re: #327 Spare O'Lake

We freshwater anglers cannot catch "sea" kittens since lakes and rivers would not qualify. So I guess we're in the clear.
BTW, channel catfish really fight hard and are a lot of fun.
PETA = airhead central

Yeah, well fly fishing is really out for PETA for sure! Did you hear they complained about the One's brave execution of a fly?

332 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:57:20am

re: #324 razorbacker

I've been noticing that a lots of Dems, and left-wingers in general, are all solicitous of the poor benighted Republicans and want to give them advice on how to regain power. Awfully nice of them, I say.
Frankly, there ain't much difference between the two major parties. Hardly enough to get overly excited about.

Prime difference seems to be that when a war-hero Republican is caught taking kick-backs from defense contractors that Republican is run out of office and/or jailed. When a powerful Republican runs his Oldsmobile into the water and lets a young lady die that Republican is run out of office. When a Republican lets his boy-friend run a call-boy ring out of his office he is run out of that office. When a Republican is caught with bundles of cash in his flooded freezer he is run out of office. When a Republican's wife is caught shaking down contributors for cash that Republican is run out of office. When a Republican is caught making racist statements at some old segregationist's birthday party that Republican is run out of office. When a Republican is found to have been a high poobah in the Ku Klux Klan he is run out of office. When a Republican's supporters are caught intimidating voters at the polls that Republican is run out of office.

Hypocrisy is said to be the tribute that vice pays to virtue. When you don't recognize virtue, and see vice as just the way the world works, then you don't have to worry too much about being a hypocrite.

It is out of benevolent and righteous concern. Google "David Vitter" and "diapers" for contra, though.

333 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:58:00am

re: #330 iceweasel

Actually come to think of it, is "lass" even English?

334 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:58:21am

re: #325 Flyers1974

Good morning, lass, what's up with that that "u?"

Denotes Commonwealth education background. I also give FireFox and Word fits with my spellings of colour, humour, armour......

335 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:58:34am

re: #327 Spare O'Lake

No grenades or TNT? Boooring!

336 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:59:17am

re: #306 Spare O'Lake

Sandford and Son stank.

I'm talking way before the remake of Steptoe and Son. Back in the 40s, 50s, and early 60s. When Foxx was working little juke joints, after hours illegal clubs, and raunchy 'black' nightclubs in Harlem, Chicago, and through the Southern circuit.

He was Richard Pryor before Pryor, except Foxx was really p*ssed off.

337 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:59:54am

To Meddle or Not to Meddle [Andy McCarthy]

As someone who has favored for years a policy of regime change in Iran (see, e.g., here, here, here, here and here), what stuns me about the commentary over the last couple of days is the perception that the regime has done something shocking with this election. The regime isn't any different today than it was the day before the election, the days before it gave logistical assistance to the 9/11 suicide hijacking teams, the day before it took al-Qaeda in for harboring after the 9/11 attacks, the day before Khobar Towers, or every day of combat in Iraq. Throughout the last 30 years, this revolutionary regime has made war on America while it brutalized its own people. The latter brutalization has ebbed and flowed with circumstances, depending on how threatened (or at least vexed) the regime felt at any given time.

Serial American governments, however, have shunned moral clarity and shunned their own fatuous rhetoric — rapprochement," "engagement," "cultivating 'moderates,'" "democracy promotion," "the Bush Doctrine," back to "engagement" again — in pursuit of what our foeign policy geniuses have been so certain is the grand bargain with Iran that has been within reach any day now for the last 30 years. The Clinton administration obstructed the FBI's investigation of Khobar because highlighting Iran's complicity in the murder of 19 members of our Air Force would have been inconvenient for its overtures to "reformer" Khatami (while the real power, the mullahs, happily plowed full speed ahead — death to America style — building their nukes and abetting our enemies). The Bush administration was flat incoherent, with the president correctly calling Iran an implacable terrorist regime while his State Department treated them like they were any rational government — eschewing sticks and continuing to entice them with more carrots every time they mocked the last batch of goodies.

Perhaps the worst part of all this was allowing the antiwar (and, specifically, antiwar in Iraq) crowd, aided by our foreign-policy gurus, to equate regime change with invasion in the public mind. Regime change in Iraq became the official policy of the U.S. in the late 1990s, years before the invastion of Iraq. We could have and should have made regime change in Iran official American policy long before that — certainly by 1996. Had we done that, we could have had a clear policy, denied the mullahs legitimacy in every particular, squeezed them in every way (particularly economically), sanctioned governments that continued to deal with them, supported the dissidents, and attacked them militarily (with or without a full-scale invasion) when they sponsored terrorist camps, supported and harbored al-Qaeda, killed Americans in Iraq, and built their nukes. ...

...But in any event, it seems to me that this regime is now engaged in exactly the sort of thing it has been engaged in for 30 long years. If we were finally going to do what we should long ago have done, and make regime change our policy, I'd be ecstatic. But let's not overlook that we have treated this regime as a legitimate government through atrocity after atrocity. That will make it much easier now for Obama to do what he wants to do in any event — overlook this most recent atrocity and go on with business as usual: empowering this terrorist regime at the expense of American national interests and the desperate hopes of Iranians who cannot overthrow the mullahs without our help.

338 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:00:07am

re: #329 iceweasel

Who is Lars Larsen? I'm always on the lookout for some conservative talk radio to listen to. I don't often get a chance to do it now, but anytime I have an extended drive anywhere in the US I always listen to it.

I'd love to listen to more but I don't get the chance now. Right now I tend to listen to BBC 4 all the time, which is just the best thing ever. Plays and books and interesting stuff. I think "intelligent speech" is their tagline.

I am actually listening right now to Fred Thompson's show from yesterday. I was not aware that he had a radio show until this morning. Here is the link to his home page. I like him a lot. He says what he thinks and he has a lot of common sense.

339 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:00:41am

re: #334 BlueCanuck

You know you change change the default language for Firefox to English-Canada, don't you?

340 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:00:52am

re: #324 razorbacker

Hypocrisy is said to be the tribute that vice pays to virtue. When you don't recognize virtue, and see vice as just the way the world works, then you don't have to worry too much about being a hypocrite.

I would like to heard someone announce that they have no principles and therefore cannot possibly violate them.

To me, the work to be done is in the Media. We see the few media outlets that permit conservative views regularly bashed by the majority of the "mainstream" media. I think the goal should be to make acquisitions in this area. The current MSM, after all, does not represent the majority. The Media is, in effect, an unelected, self-appointed branch of government. They are dictators via influence and distortion.

341 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:01:03am

re: #323 reine.de.tout

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this. Did you sign up to get tweets from a single source or many? I have to raise my twitter knowledge.

342 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:01:57am

re: #339 rightside

Yeah, but I am lazy. :)

343 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:02:10am

re: #334 BlueCanuck

Good point. Thank you.

344 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:02:29am

re: #324 razorbacker

I've been noticing that a lots of Dems, and left-wingers in general, are all solicitous of the poor benighted Republicans and want to give them advice on how to regain power. Awfully nice of them, I say.

Frankly, there ain't much difference between the two major parties. Hardly enough to get overly excited about.

I can't disagree with you, or object to your cynicism; I'll merely note that many people who may identify as 'left' nonetheless feel that it benefits the country to have a strong opposition and a more equitable balance of power (I don't like to see any one party in control of all branches of gov't. It's unhealthy.)

Also, some of us on the 'left' or center would dearly love to see a genuine conservative party along the lines of Goldwater conservativism. Some of us might even vote for conservatives of that stripe.

345 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:03:32am

re: #339 rightside

You know you changecan change the default language for Firefox to English-Canada, don't you?

PIMF

More coffee.

346 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:05:05am

re: #329 iceweasel


Lars Larsen does a reigonal and national show out of Portland, OR on weekdays, and I think he streams it thru his website. Unabashedly pro-gun and conservative (pretty unusual in Portland) and I think he has a background in investigative journalism.

There are also other Lars Larsens that he occasionally invites on the show just because they have the same name.

347 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:05:19am

re: #323 reine.de.tout

It seems like the IMPORTANT aspect, pretty much hidden from view, is the 'bloodless' coup with Short Snort's military buddies TAKING CONTROL, with Iran no longer a theocracy but a military dictatorship, Reine

348 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:05:41am

re: #298 Throbert McGee

By the way, on the thread downstairs I saw some references to Glenn Beck's calling Barry Manilow gay. Does anyone happen to know what Beck actually said?

Beck does seem infatuated with Barry:

[Link: www.glennbeck.com...]
[Link: www.glennbeck.com...]
[Link: archive.glennbeck.com...]

[Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

And so on.

I heard the same story as you... but no one has posted a link for it that I can find quickly.

349 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:06:42am

re: #348 freetoken

Beck does seem infatuated with Barry:

Me thinks that the man doth protest too much. ;)

350 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:06:50am

re: #340 legalpad

On the other hand, how much longer will the MSM be relevant as a news source? I bet the percentage of people who do respect it is pretty low and getting lower.

351 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:07:09am

I could see Glenn Beck sitting around this table:

352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:07:52am

re: #348 freetoken

I'm a "Fanilow". I don't care if he's gay.

Glen's turned into a schmuck.

353 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:07:56am
As massive protests rocked Iran after the “re-election” of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad over “reform” candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, the western press was eager to attribute the protests to Barack Obama’s international influence — specifically the “support” Obama threw to Iranian reformers in his now famous speech in Cairo. Others suggested that Obama’s speech essentially frightened the Iranian regime into an overreaction, securing itself by rigging the election. Such is the power of hope and change.

The irony is that Obama probably did have a critical effect upon the outcome — albeit the opposite of what is being suggested.

Prior to his speech in Cairo, Obama made clear that his policy was to eschew meaningful action to curtail Iran’s nuclear ambitions unless and until Israel complied with Obama’s approach on Palestinian issues. This sent a clear message to the regime in Iran: Obama had prepared an excuse for himself if Iran should become nuclear power — a variation on the traditional Arab-Muslim strategy of blaming the Jews. ...

...It is clear to any rational thinker that Iran’s activities to date can not be confused with the effort to obtain peaceful nuclear power. As Amir Taheri writes in his brilliant book, The Persian Night: Iran under the Khomeinist Revolution:

The only nuclear power station under construction in Iran, in the Bushehr peninsula on the Persian Gulf, was designed by Germans in the 1970’s and is being built by a Russian company that constructed Chernobyl. The Bushehr plant is designed to use a specially graded and codified fuel that is produced only in Russia; it cannot use the uranium enriched by Iran.


Taheri further adds that Iran “is building a heavy water plant at Arak, west of Tehran, supposedly producing fuel for a nuclear power station using plutonium. However, the Islamic Republic has no such plant, nor has it even planned to build one. What is produced in Arak, therefore, could only have a military use.” In Cairo, Obama effectively announced to the world that he is willing to assist the Iranian regime in maintaining its charade that it is not working to obtain nuclear weapons — while at the same time preemptively granting it the right to do so.

America now mirrors the United Nations in its pusillanimous response to Iran’s persistent efforts at violating international norms. Why would Khamenei — who controls Iran’s election results just as he controls Iran’s nuclear program — feel any need to dismiss Ahmadinejad in favor of the faux-reformist Mousavi? Such a move would, in Persian minds, signal its own weakness — a strategic attempt to fool the world that some meaningful “change” is occurring. Why play that card now? No change is needed at present — not even a superficial one. So why not save that trump for later, in case the international community should reverse its course and promise strong action against Iran — or in case the Iranian protests and the crackdown against them should continue, threatening lasting effects. In either of those scenarios, the concession from the mullahs will come in spite of Obama, not because of him.

In Iran’s last election, Ahmadinejad used the slogan “We Can!” Once again, Obama is adding the word “Yes” to all that Ahmadinejad does.


Obama Wins the Iranian Election

354 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:08:58am

re: #334 BlueCanuck

Denotes Commonwealth education background. I also give FireFox and Word fits with my spellings of colour, humour, armour......

Don't forget judgement. gah.

355 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:09:36am

re: #336 razorbacker
Redd Foxx Pissed off before outrage was cool.

356 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:09:45am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"I write the songs" is over the top though.

357 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:10:35am

OK lizards...I'm outta here.

Ciao!

358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:10:45am

re: #356 Flyers1974

"I write the songs" is over the top though.

Bullshit! It made the whole world sing! Made the young girls cry!

359 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:11:02am

re: #341 VioletTiger

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this. Did you sign up to get tweets from a single source or many? I have to raise my twitter knowledge.

I "follow" several twitterers from this list:

TehranBureau, PersianKiwi, Iran09

Then I downloaded something called "tweetdeck", which runs separately from your browser window, and as "tweets" come in from anyone you're following, I get a "chirp" and they pop up in the tweetdeck list.

Tweetdeck lets you filter for tags (such as #iranelection) that tweets have attached to them.

You need a twitter account,and you search and "follow" whoever or whatever you're interested in. People who use it for personal messaging may have to give their "permission". Others are open to be followed by anybody.

360 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:11:08am

re: #350 Flyers1974

This is definitely a factor. But the regular old broadcast TV still has the public believing that the Emperor has a fine set of clothes. They are fighting tooth and nail to retain their influence. The candidates in this last election reflected just how effective they still are. They selected both of them.

361 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:11:08am

re: #358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am MUSIC.

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:11:47am

re: #361 Flyers1974

I am MUSIC.

And I write the SONGS!

dammit.

363 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:11:55am

Cavuto strikes back at Obama snub

I love Neil Cavuto. Man tells it like it is.

364 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:12:40am

This letter was written by a woman in Arizona to our nations leaders and sent to Glenn Beck ( regardless of how you feel about him, you may enjoy reading this):

I'm a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me. There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now. You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would horribly feel so disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut job am I? Will you please tell me?

Well, these are briefly my views and issues for which I seek representation:

One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I'm not a racist. This isn't to be confused with legal immigration.


Two, the TARP bill, I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.

Three: Czars, I want the circumvention of our checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution and honor it.

Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There is more to say.

Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night and then go on break. Slow down!

Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real obligations. Why don't you start there.

Seven, ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes. Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them with taking the census over with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with our taxpayer money. Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.

Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want me to hate my employers? Why ‑‑ what do you have against shareholders making a profit?

Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.

Ten, corporate bailouts. Knock it off. Sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. Have you ever ripped off a Band‑Aid? We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. (continued)

365 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:12:40am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Only worhtwhile thing left for Beck to say that I'd bother listening to is that he's retiring, taking a vow of silence, and moving to some isolated mountaintop.

366 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:12:47am
...I think the Obama administration is resigned to Iran's getting nuclear weapons and has no intention of doing anything meaningful to stop that from happening. From a political standpoint, Obama's goal is to look like he's making efforts to bring Iran around on nukes while concurrently inuring our country to the idea that the Iranian nuke is an inevitability — so that when this self-fulfilling eventuality comes to pass he won't take too much of a hit in the polls.

Considerations of Islamic ideology have been discouraged in this country since 9/11 — lest we detect a nexus between Muslim doctrine and Muslim terror. Consequently, there is general ignorance about the Islamic political program (Islam is not just a religion, it is a comprehensive socio-political program). But for a few nettlesome differences (like equality for women and hostility to homosexuals), the Islamic political program — especially the totalitarian version regnant in the Islamic Republic of Iran — is something the American Left would be very comfortable with. Obama understands this, and I think it is a better explanation for his solicitude toward Khamenei than any hope of reversing Iran's nuclear ambitions.


Man, it's hard to figure out what's going on in Iran ... [Andy McCarthy]

367 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:15:25am

re: #364 fluffy bunny

I like this lady.

368 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:16:17am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife introduced me to Manilow.
Here's a good one.

369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:17:15am

I have an extraordinarily long day today, so I must bid thee adieu. So,

"Adieu. Adieu. To you and you and you." Bows (wearing leiderhosen) airplane arms out...swoops away...

370 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:17:17am

re: #360 legalpad

This is definitely a factor. But the regular old broadcast TV still has the public believing that the Emperor has a fine set of clothes. They are fighting tooth and nail to retain their influence. The candidates in this last election reflected just how effective they still are. They selected both of them.

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I definitely wouldn't argue that it is irrelevant yet. I figure committed conservatives and committed liberals are out of the equation - they've already made up their minds and can't be persuaded under any circumstances. So you have the non-committeds, god knows what percentage they are. It would be interesting to see a poll(s) that if available, that show trust in media say in the 50's 60's etc... and today.

371 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:17:22am

Continued:
Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please try ‑‑ please stop manipulating and trying to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.

Twelve, unprecedented quick spending. Stop it now.

Take a breath. Listen to the people. Let's just slow down and get some input from some nonpoliticians on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed reading our bills into law. I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent. I work. I'm busy. I'm busy. I am busy, and I am tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.

I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not. It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance. Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should trust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is such urgency and recklessness in all of the recent spending.

From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making. We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on you to bring our concerns to Washington. Our president often knows all the right buzzword is unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.

(continued)

372 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:17:54am

We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented. You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you? We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work , pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone and we are now looking up at you. You have awakened us, the patriotic spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office. We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off. We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us when hewill rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.

Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us. Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you. If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one. We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming.

373 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:18:31am

re: #368 legalpad

My wife introduced me to Manilow.
Here's a good one.

I feel like that is what I am trying to do right now. Just make it through the rain.

374 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:19:02am

re: #367 J.D.
Her Democrat friends will just say shes gotten cold hearted and cynical in her old age. Thats the real reason for the age limits in Logan's Run kill em before they stop being liberal.

375 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:21:06am

re: #369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an extraordinarily long day today, so I must bid thee adieu. So,

"Adieu. Adieu. To you and you and you." Bows (wearing leiderhosen) airplane arms out...swoops away...

Now that was an image I could have done without. :p

/Have a great day FBV

376 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:21:39am

Sorry about that folks, knowing how many of you feel about Glenn Beck, I did not want to link to his site.

I loved the letter and thought I would share it with you!

377 J.D.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:22:20am

Clinton Fractures Elbow

...Mrs. Clinton was treated at The George Washington University Hospital, just a few blocks from State Department headquarters, before going home. She will undergo surgery to repair her elbow in the coming week, Ms. Mills said. ...


Hurry! Obamacare may decide you are too old!

378 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:23:15am

re: #374 Rustler

Her Democrat friends will just say shes gotten cold hearted and cynical in her old age. Thats the real reason for the age limits in Logan's Run kill em before they stop being liberal.

Norman Lear bought one of the original copies of The Declaration of Independence and set a museum tour designed for schools to send their kids to. A number of Hollywood stars became part of it. Among other things it advocated that the voting age be lowered to age 16. Wouldn't the influence peddlers like that -

379 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:23:18am

re: #375 BlueCanuck
FBV in "Sound of Music" or Lederhosen? Or FBV in lederhosen singing and capering about the stage>?

380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:23:24am

Oh, don't start a Manilow thread. Charles will close LGF today.

381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:24:12am

re: #379 Rustler

FBV in "Sound of Music" or Lederhosen? Or FBV in lederhosen singing and capering about the stage>?

Good-BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEE!

382 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:24:55am

Here's some random thoughts before I have to get busy with my world.

I'm a contrary bastard. I know it, I fight against my baser nature, but it seems to bubble up from the inky depths of my rotten soul.

I've never in my life had one of these oh-so-concerned 'leaders' come by my house, fix my coffee and breakfast in the morn, pry my aching behind out of bed and set me toddling off to earn my daily bread. But they don't mind standing there with their itching palms stretched out to relieve me of that daily bread once I've earned it.

If you tell me that God wants me to kill someone, I tell you that I don't want any God that isn't strong enough to do his own killing.

I want to help my family, my friends, my neighbors, and my fellow humans. I don't much care to provide their smokes, alcohol, drugs, X-boxes, Ipods, TVs. You can call it a character flaw, that's fine with me.

You ask me, I'll tell you what I think. You don't ask me, I'll still tell you what I think. That's it. I won't make you do what I say. That's on you, not me.

383 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:25:23am

I miss this man ...

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

I hope he chooses not to remain silent anymore.

384 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:25:31am

re: #379 Rustler

FBV in "Sound of Music" or Lederhosen? Or FBV in lederhosen singing and capering about the stage>?

No, yes, YES!

385 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:26:29am

re: #377 J.D.

Clinton Fractures Elbow


Hurry! Obamacare may decide you are too old!

Always a danger when patting oneself on the back.

386 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:26:30am

re: #381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Image from FBV's webcam 4 minutes ago.

387 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:26:40am

re: #377 J.D.

Clinton Fractures Elbow


Hurry! Obamacare may decide you are too old!

She ought to be required to have all this handled through the VA Hospital system, in order to give her a taste of what nationalized health care will be like. And no having her aids process all the paperwork in her stead.

388 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:27:09am

re: #372 fluffy bunny

Thank you for that post. This woman needs to stop looking for someone to represent her and start representing herself. This is the sort of person we need in Washington.

389 FrogMarch  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:27:29am

Hi all.

Government Sponsored Heath Care - what's the hurry?

Weren't we promised some methodical and deliberate governance from President Barack Obama? Where is it?

The president claims that we must pass a government-run health insurance program — possibly the most wide-ranging and intricate government undertaking in decades — yesterday or a "ticking time bomb" will explode.

If all this terrifying talk sounds familiar, it might be because the president applies the same FEAR-infused vocabulary to nearly all his hard-to-defend policy positions.

(caps are my emphasis)

390 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:27:44am

re: #388 Ford_Prefect

I agree, Ford!

391 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:28:10am

re: #373 Ford_Prefect

I feel like that is what I am trying to do right now. Just make it through the rain.

If the struggle has been long enough, sometimes it's weird when you make it. Did you ever see Ben Hur when he saves the Admiral and when they are back on ship, he stops to look at the Galley slaves?

392 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:28:11am

re: #387 SixDegrees
Nah let her go as a Medicare patient the VA handles their shit far better mostly because of smaller volume.

393 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:30:04am

re: #382 razorbacker

If you tell me that God wants me to kill someone, I tell you that I don't want any God that isn't strong enough to do his own killing.

Good one.

394 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:30:44am

re: #338 Ford_Prefect

I am actually listening right now to Fred Thompson's show from yesterday. I was not aware that he had a radio show until this morning. Here is the link to his home page. I like him a lot. He says what he thinks and he has a lot of common sense.

Should be the JERI and Fred T show. She seems a lot sharper than he is. Well, the old adage is true....behind a successful man...is a smart woman!

395 FrogMarch  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:31:42am

re: #389 FrogMarch

Government Sponsored Heath Care - what's the hurry?

A commonly utilized Obama strawman states that "the cost of inaction" is unacceptable. "Action," naturally, translates into whatever policy Obama happens to be peddling at the time.

When it comes to health insurance, though, there are still reactionaries. Take the folks at the American Medical Association, who have the impudence to claim that "reform" comes with the potential to destroy their industry and your choice.

"The introduction of a new public plan threatens to restrict patient choice by driving out private insurers . . . ," says an AMA statement. "The corresponding surge in public plan participation would likely lead to an explosion of costs that would need to be absorbed by taxpayers."

Guess what? That's the point.

etc... read it all - this kind of common sense and reason will never come out of the Obama White House.

396 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:31:49am

re: #387 SixDegrees

She ought to be required to have all this handled through the VA Hospital system, in order to give her a taste of what nationalized health care will be like. And no having her aids process all the paperwork in her stead.

A hundred updings, O Realist SixDegrees! :D

397 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:32:32am

re: #377 J.D.

Clinton Fractures Elbow


Hurry! Obamacare may decide you are too old!


That only applies to non-liberals. Have to pull out all the stops for Teddy and all the other commies to maintain power.

398 Karridine  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:33:24am

re: #395 FrogMarch

Froggy, did you notice that
Government Sponsored Heath Care
its HEATH Care, not HEALTH Care?

/wry grin, Dude

399 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:33:31am

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And I write the SONGS!

dammit.

He inspired every songwriter!

400 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:33:40am

re: #394 songbird

Should be the JERI and Fred T show. She seems a lot sharper than he is. Well, the old adage is true....behind a successful man...is a smart woman!

She is very sharp. I wouldn't say sharper, but she is good. I am enjoying listening to both of them.

401 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:33:46am

re: #394 songbird

Thanks for the link songbird. (I did not know he had a radio show.) I'm looking forward to listening him.

402 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:34:23am

re: #376 fluffy bunny

Good letter, Bunny!

403 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:35:18am

re: #364 fluffy bunny

Sounds like Glenn has found his woman. She mirrors everything he says back to him.

404 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:35:30am

re: #384 BlueCanuck

No, yes, YES!

Hey Blue and Ford. What's up?

405 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:35:48am

re: #395 FrogMarch

etc... read it all - this kind of common sense and reason will never come out of the Obama White House.

Common Sense and Reason seem to be enemies of the 0bama administration. Alongside Fiscl Restraint, Transparency, and Integrity.

406 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:36:15am

re: #370 Flyers1974


I definitely wouldn't argue that it is irrelevant yet. I figure committed conservatives and committed liberals are out of the equation - they've already made up their minds and can't be persuaded under any circumstances. So you have the non-committeds, god knows what percentage they are. It would be interesting to see a poll(s) that if available, that show trust in media say in the 50's 60's etc... and today.

I have to disagree. First, i do agree with you that such a poll would be illuminating; my guess is that it would show a precipitous drop in trust in the media, across the board, regardless of political party.
Second, -- I don't agree that 'committed liberal and conservatives have made up their minds and can't be persuaded under any circumstances."

i think that claim both overstates liberal and conservatives' commitment to "the democratic party as it is" and "the GOP as it is", and understates the amount of middle ground between the two groups: core principles each agree on.

I admit I've got a slightly utopian idea here that the political landscape could be redefined in such a way as to to permit that middle ground to be acknowledged and claimed,

I think there's enough anger and disgust with partisan politics and with the media that such a reconfiguration at least looks possible right now.

407 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:36:45am

re: #398 Karridine

Froggy, did you notice that
Government Sponsored Heath Care
its HEATH Care, not HEALTH Care?

/wry grin, Dude

That is a relief. Had I known that they were talking about giving me some of those tasty little chocolate covered toffee bars...well, that changes everything.

$1.7 trillion seems a mite steep, though. Maybe they oughtta consider a Skor bar, instead.

408 FrogMarch  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:36:47am

re: #363 Ford_Prefect

Cavuto strikes back at Obama snub

I love Neil Cavuto. Man tells it like it is.

Obama is a wimp. He cannot handle the slightest criticism. The man lives in a bubble.

Could explain Obama's above-the-law behavior. Fire the dude who blew the whistle on your buddy who had his hand in the the million dollar community organizing tax payer funded just-skim-some-off-the-top cookie jar.

409 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:37:18am

re: #403 freetoken

Sounds like Glenn has found his woman. She mirrors everything he says back to him.

i didn't want to get into it, but I have some issues with that letter. And I'm not convinced it's really from who it claims to be from.

410 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:37:22am

re: #404 Erik The Red

Morning Erik. Finally got my wish and I am now working day shifts. Effective this week. :)

411 FrogMarch  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:37:33am

re: #398 Karridine

Froggy, did you notice that
Government Sponsored Heath Care
its HEATH Care, not HEALTH Care?

/wry grin, Dude

dang. I thought: ' free Heath bars for everyone!'

412 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:37:56am

re: #404 Erik The Red

Hey Blue and Ford. What's up?

Erik! How the heck are you?

413 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:37:57am

re: #364 fluffy bunny

Its nice to hear specifics from someone. The trouble is, there is no concensus on these issues. You cannot expect too much from politicians and it is unrealistic I think to expect them to be better than we are. They do what they have to in order to get elected or reelected - just like we do what we have to to keep our jobs. They take their cues from the people. If enough people agree on an issue and vote accordingly, the politicians will act, and fast.

414 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:38:43am

re: #410 BlueCanuck

Morning Erik. Finally got my wish and I am now working day shifts. Effective this week. :)

Great news. Back to being "almost normal" :)

415 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:38:43am

re: #401 fluffy bunny

Thanks for the link songbird. (I did not know he had a radio show.) I'm looking forward to listening him.

Well, thank Ford for the link.

I hope Thompson plays more an advisory role and does not run for president again. He is smart and conservative, but looks not as strong as he would need to be for the job. Maybe Jeri will run (all eyebrows raise!)

416 FrogMarch  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:38:59am

re: #389 FrogMarch

Hi all.

Government Sponsored Health Care - what's the hurry?

do over - Health -not- heath.

417 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:39:04am

Haha I like this caption on the dinner jacket pic.

418 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:39:54am

re: #412 Ford_Prefect

Erik! How the heck are you?

Good, Thanks. Counting down now. I fly out on the 2 July. Family left yesterday.

419 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:40:10am

re: #409 iceweasel

I would love to hear your thoughts on why you feel that way.

420 razorbacker  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:42:06am

Aw'ite. Homie hits the bricks.

Remember, sometimes when they're patting you on the back they're just looking for a soft spot in which to plant the knife.

421 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:42:25am

re: #415 songbird

Well, thank Ford for the link.

I hope Thompson plays more an advisory role and does not run for president again. He is smart and conservative, but looks not as strong as he would need to be for the job. Maybe Jeri will run (all eyebrows raise!)

I don't know if Jeri would stand a chance. An attractive, intelligent, conservative woman? Sound familiar? She would be massacred by the leftist media. Imagine a Sarah/Jeri ticket? Moonbat heads would be exploding everywhere!

422 fluffy bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:42:52am

re: #415 songbird

Whoops, thats what happens when I try to talk on the phone , read LGF and post all at the same time...sorry about that Ford! Thank you Ford! : )

423 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:43:01am

re: #415 songbird

Well, thank Ford for the link.

I hope Thompson plays more an advisory role and does not run for president again. He is smart and conservative, but looks not as strong as he would need to be for the job. Maybe Jeri will run (all eyebrows raise!)


Sure because we all know how much the media and the left are ready to accept a woman as POTUS. Unless Jeri is a card carrying NOW member with 2 or 3 abortions under her belt all we will hear is she is not qualified to speak on women's issues and she wants women dragged back into the dark ages to be barefoot, pregnant and dragged back to the cave by their hair.

424 Erik The Red  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:43:01am

Gotta run. Later Lizards.

425 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:43:09am

re: #414 Erik The Red

Great news. Back to being "almost normal" :)

Well, I don't think I will ever be "normal". At least I can live a normal schedule. :)

Glad to see you are almost back to our world.

426 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:43:09am

re: #418 Erik The Red

Good, Thanks. Counting down now. I fly out on the 2 July. Family left yesterday.

So you will be here in time to celebrate our nation's independence. Very cool.

427 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:44:04am

re: #404 Erik The Red

Erik!

428 johnnyreb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:44:09am

re: #406 iceweasel

-- I don't agree that 'committed liberal and conservatives have made up their minds and can't be persuaded under any circumstances."

I am pretty much a hard right Libertarian and l know my mind can and has been changed on what I consider my core beliefs.

I was once 100% in favor of the death penalty. However over the last few years I kept reading about how many totally innocent people are being freed from prison, some longer than 20 years behind bars. That got me thinking alot about our judicial system and now I oppose the death penalty. Facts can and do change peoples political leanings at times.

429 Rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:44:52am

re: #423 soxfan4life And if she wants to be treated that way it's her choice isn't it? Oh wait Now only wants women free to choose what they say women should choose my bad I'll shut up now.

430 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:45:12am

re: #421 Ford_Prefect

I don't know if Jeri would stand a chance. An attractive, intelligent, conservative woman? Sound familiar? She would be massacred by the leftist media. Imagine a Sarah/Jeri ticket? Moonbat heads would be exploding everywhere!

What a powerful combo! Beauty and common sense! Isn't that what they want for TV babes? This would be the ultimate!

431 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:45:22am

re: #426 Ford_Prefect

So you will be here in time to celebrate our nation's independence. Very cool.


Under this President we might not have many more Independence Days.
Between his increased welfare spending with the Stimulus and Universal Healthcare we will have Govt. Dependence Day though.

432 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:47:24am

re: #431 soxfan4life

Under this President we might not have many more Independence Days.
Between his increased welfare spending with the Stimulus and Universal Healthcare we will have Govt. Dependence Day though.

What day would be appropriate? Election day 2008? Inauguration day 2009? The day they pass 'health care reform'?

433 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:47:26am

Sports Nerd Corner:

Today the U.S. Open starts at Bethpage Black. I predict that :

1. Tiger woods will finish in the top 10 but not win.

Since his knee injury/surgery, he has had to subtly change his swing to protect the left knee. Long story short, he is hanging back on his right leg to keep stress off the front knee. As a result, he has lost some poser but even more importantly, direction control. He is having to manipulate the club face at impact to get it squared up to the ball close the club face. No one has good enough hand-to-eye coordination to do that perfectly every time. Thus, he sprays the ball to the right into the trees once in a while, then over corrects and duck hooks it left. He will do that several times during this tournament, and the stroke it costs him each time will not be made up by his short game.

2. Phil Mickelson will do well to make the cut.

Mickelson has to deal with his wife's breast cancer, and I give him credit for even trying to play. A U.S. Open course is no place to play when you hae not been playing much and your mind is on other things. I have had the experience of playing a course set up for the US open, and you would not believe the greens. Approach shots hit and bounce off like they are hitting an asphalt parking lot. There is no such thing as throwing wedge shots at the flag, you are lucky just to stay on the green. At times, it is all you can do to not putt off the green. You can have a 4 foot putt, lightly tap the ball and watch it roll 30 feet off the green and down the fairway.

I expect some player from the European tour to get hot and win it this week. It will be wet and they are good "mudders".

Somebody named Greg Kraft is already 4 over par after 6 holes. He can already start planning his weekend at home.

434 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:48:22am

re: #431 soxfan4life

Under this President we might not have many more Independence Days.
Between his increased welfare spending with the Stimulus and Universal Healthcare we will have Govt. Dependence Day though.

Ouch, but probably true. Our nation is literally in decline now thanks to Obama's policies, the quagmire of government bureaucracy, the Democratic Congress and American apathy.

G-d have mercy on us!

435 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:48:28am

re: #430 songbird

She would be massacred by the leftist media

It is the leftist media that needs to be massacred.

436 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:48:54am

re: #382 razorbacker

I want to help my family, my friends, my neighbors, and my fellow humans. I don't much care to provide their smokes, alcohol, drugs, X-boxes, Ipods, TVs. You can call it a character flaw, that's fine with me.

As Denis Miller says, I don't mind helping the helpless, but I object to helping the clueless.

437 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:49:03am

I can't wait till July 4th

438 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:49:40am

re: #406 iceweasel

I agree there is disgust with partisan politics. But the partisans want the other side to compromise. And partisans believe that compromise is a weakness not a virtue. For example, conservatives dissatisfied with the Republican Party are dissatisfied because they believe the party has compromised - too much. (I don't include LGF, it is kind of a thing unto itself.) I'd say most of the people at DK don't want the Democrats to compromise either. And the "middle ground" if you mean swing voters, is pretty relevant I think. That's why, in my opinion, you won't see for example, either Newt Gingrich nor Ralph Nader as serious presidential candidates.

439 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:49:46am

re: #436 3 wood

As Denis Miller says, I don't mind helping the helpless, but I object to helping the clueless.

Are you talking about my wife and 2 daughters when it comes to the cars?

440 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:50:30am

re: #432 Ford_Prefect

What day would be appropriate? Election day 2008? Inauguration day 2009? The day they pass 'health care reform'?


Either the day he signed the stimulus bill or the day national healthcare gets passed. Or maybe May 1 in honor of all the illegals who will be the primary benefits of 0's largesse.

441 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:50:41am

re: #439 Nevergiveup

Or installing updates on the pc's.

442 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:50:42am

re: #439 Nevergiveup

Are you talking about my wife and 2 daughters when it comes to the cars?

They are not clueless....they know to go to you!

443 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:51:15am

re: #441 rightside

Or installing updates on the pc's.

Thanks for reminding me!

444 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:51:47am

re: #442 songbird

They are not clueless....they know to go to you!

OK I'll give ya that one.

445 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:52:16am

re: #419 fluffy bunny

I would love to hear your thoughts on why you feel that way.


hi fluffy bunny,

I promise I'll have that discussion with you later, but I think it'd be much cooler and nicer if you get to reap the kudos from everyone who will like that letter first-- before I come in with any objections to it. :)

Seriously, most people here will definitely be on your side about the letter and I don't want to rain on your parade by jumping in and being all negative about that letter right away.

I think it's great that you posted it; I enjoyed reading it; and I look forward to giving you my issues with it a little later, if that's ok.

For now I'll just say that this former democrat, now republican writer betrays a suspicious familiarity with GB talking points and even certain kinds of language peculiar to GB and some others on the right. (i also promise I won't leave my claim at that, but will substantiate it when we have a discussion later.)

Thanks again for posting it; I think it's very worthwhile reading.

446 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:56:33am

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea may fire a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii in early July, a Japanese news report said Thursday, as Russia and China urged the regime to return to international disarmament talks on its rogue nuclear program.

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Hum. Hawaii? I seem to remember something happening there in a long past December? Anyway I call "Act of War".
/ya have to know me to decide if I'm kidding or not?

447 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:56:37am

re: #445 iceweasel

I agree with you that the source is perhaps a little suspect, but I don't think that lessons the validity of the points made in the letter. Your earlier comment about not expecting more from our elected officials than we are capable of ourselves is a good point. However, I don't believe that most of us would throw our nation under the bus for our own gain.

448 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:57:01am

re: #428 johnnyreb

Now that you mention it, I switched from anti-gun to pro-gun. I think I intially took the anti-gun position as a knee-jerk reaction to NRA tactics. Thought better of it at some point. I think I meant though, you aren't going to see too many committed people switch sides from conservative to liberal, etc...

449 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:57:33am

US Open update:

Rick Fowler has joined Kraft in "trunk slammer" territory, 5 over after 7 holes.

Woods is even after 2.

3 golfers are 1 under par early.

450 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:58:49am

re: #449 3 wood

US Open update:

Rick Fowler has joined Kraft in "trunk slammer" territory, 5 over after 7 holes.

Woods is even after 2.

3 golfers are 1 under par early.

It's on? Isn't it raining? Is it on TV somewhere?

451 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:59:01am

re: #428 johnnyreb

I am pretty much a hard right Libertarian and l know my mind can and has been changed on what I consider my core beliefs.

I was once 100% in favor of the death penalty. However over the last few years I kept reading about how many totally innocent people are being freed from prison, some longer than 20 years behind bars. That got me thinking alot about our judicial system and now I oppose the death penalty. Facts can and do change peoples political leanings at times.

I completely agree with you. My own thinking on the death penalty has also changed dramatically over time. I'm a lib and one would think I would be knee-jerk anti-death penalty-- yet that was not the case. I have relatives in law enforcement, and I had the belief that some crimes are so awful that they warrant death.

But like you, I kept reading about all these inmates, some on death row, exonerated years later via DNA or other flaws in the system-- innocent people wrongly convicted.

Now I can't possibly support the death penalty because there is always the possibility of human error-- and I don't think it's worth even one innocent person being executed, even if we execute 100.000 who were guilty.
So people's positions can and do change, often quite dramatically, over time.

452 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:59:14am

re: #445 iceweasel

I knew before posting that the letter would have critics, which is fine with me. I did not write the letter and I am not a Glenn Beck supporter, I did, however, identify with the letter writer and agreed with much of what was written.

I look forward to hearing the different views regarding the letter. : )

453 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:59:53am

re: #452 Fluffy Bunny

Excellent; I promise we'll talk about it! :)

454 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:59:55am

re: #449 3 wood

US Open update:

Rick Fowler has joined Kraft in "trunk slammer" territory, 5 over after 7 holes.

Woods is even after 2.

3 golfers are 1 under par early.

I am not a golfer, but wouldn't the rain make it more likely that there will be a lot of people over par?

455 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:59:55am

re: #439 Nevergiveup

Are you talking about my wife and 2 daughters when it comes to the cars?

Are yours like my family, where they have no concept of checking the mileage on the oil change? And they think gasoline magically appears in the tank?

456 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:00:47am

ethanol....another political football


[Link: spectator.org...]

457 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:01:13am

re: #450 Nevergiveup

It's on? Isn't it raining? Is it on TV somewhere?

yes,

not that I know of,

and 10 am

I'm checking the online real time scores on ESPN

458 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:01:35am

re: #449 3 wood

"trunk slammer"

Huh? I'm assuming that is a guy who is about the slam the trunk lid on his car after throwing his clubs in. He's going home?

Or, are we doing more Barry Manilow stuff?

459 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:02:10am

re: #457 3 wood

yes,

not that I know of,

and 10 am

I'm checking the online real time scores on ESPN

I heard this morning that ESPN will start their coverage at 10:00 EST.

460 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:02:17am

re: #455 3 wood

Are yours like my family, where they have no concept of checking the mileage on the oil change? And they think gasoline magically appears in the tank?

That's them.

461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:02:24am

re: #455 3 wood

Mornin' Wood!

Will you be my daddy? I'm on empty.

462 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:02:49am

re: #409 iceweasel

i didn't want to get into it, but I have some issues with that letter. And I'm not convinced it's really from who it claims to be from.

Why don't you tell what the isues are? I'd honestly be interested in hearing this. These things don't bother you or do you really want a nanny state?

463 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:03:20am

re: #448 Flyers1974

Now that you mention it, I switched from anti-gun to pro-gun. I think I intially took the anti-gun position as a knee-jerk reaction to NRA tactics. Thought better of it at some point. I think I meant though, you aren't going to see too many committed people switch sides from conservative to liberal, etc...

I was anti-gun too, at one point. interesting.

I still disagree with you though. Conservatives and liberals have a LOT in common-- respect for individuals rights, respect for privacy, a deep dislike of government telling them what to do. This is the kind of 'liberalism' that is just 'American' and is really common to almost all those who are in a liberal democracy.

I think many of our debates have been framed in a 'culture war' way that polarises people and parties, exacerbates our differences and drives us apart.

464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:03:22am

Oh, I said I have to go. And I do.

Dang, you guys are addictive.

465 jacksontn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:04:01am

re: #455 3 wood

Are yours like my family, where they have no concept of checking the mileage on the oil change? And they think gasoline magically appears in the tank?

3wood .. um ... what's an oil change? ...

Morning Ya'll from a beautiful morning in BitterClingerLand ... but um ... Stop the dang tornado sirens ... every dang afternoon ...

466 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:04:59am

re: #463 iceweasel

Conservatives and liberals have a LOT in common-- respect for individuals rights, respect for privacy, a deep dislike of government telling them what to do.

This kind of idea needs to be built on, developed.

467 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:04:59am

re: #464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I said I have to go. And I do.

Dang, you guys are addictive.

Admit it, you love us.

468 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:05:03am

Larry Elder on health insurance

[Link: www.creators.com...]

469 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:05:09am

U.S. Open update:


*snicker*

Rich Bland is 6 over par after 4 holes. I can do that.

Looks like the course is playing a bit tough today.

The radio says it's raining there. I love to play in a light rain, you can really hit down hard on the ball hand compress it and hit a lot of crisp iron shots.

470 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:06:55am

re: #458 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh? I'm assuming that is a guy who is about the slam the trunk lid on his car after throwing his clubs in. He's going home?

"trunk slammer" is golf slang for having a bad round that means you have no chance of making the cut and thus will soon be throwing your clubs in the trunk and slamming the lid shut to go home

471 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:06:58am

re: #466 legalpad

This kind of idea needs to be built on, developed.

Yes. I've written about it here a little before; I guess I should sit down and do something proper on it. I don't think the idea is unique to me in its broad outlines.

I'm sure many here would have a lot to say on that issue and much to contribute.

472 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:07:47am

re: #463 iceweasel

I was anti-gun too, at one point. interesting.

I still disagree with you though. Conservatives and liberals have a LOT in common-- respect for individuals rights, respect for privacy, a deep dislike of government telling them what to do. This is the kind of 'liberalism' that is just 'American' and is really common to almost all those who are in a liberal democracy.

I think many of our debates have been framed in a 'culture war' way that polarises people and parties, exacerbates our differences and drives us apart.

I have tried to be careful lately to use the Leftist instead of Liberal when criticizing the extremists out there. I agree that true conservatives and true liberals are closer than people tend to think, in some ways. Those on the far left are not real liberals and those on the far right are not real conservatives. The true debate needs to be between conservative and liberal, not left and right.

473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:07:54am

re: #470 3 wood

I doubt it's only golf slang.

Bad, fat. Bad!

474 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:08:52am

re: #454 Ford_Prefect

I am not a golfer, but wouldn't the rain make it more likely that there will be a lot of people over par?

Not necessarily. The rain will slow down the greens so you can get aggressive with your putts, and the air will be heavier so the ball spin will bite more and you will controll it better.

I've had some of my all time best rounds in a light rain. I love to play in a light rain.

475 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:09:02am

re: #471 iceweasel

Perhaps this is exactly the right forum to develop it. I have many ideas along these lines, some of which could used some refining, some civilizing.

476 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:09:10am

re: #452 Fluffy Bunny

Where can I find it?

477 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:10:21am

re: #475 legalpad

Perhaps this is exactly the right forum to develop it. I have many ideas along these lines, some of which could used some refining, some civilizing.

This is the place to get civilized....as civil as a lizard can get!

478 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:11:09am

re: #474 3 wood

so you can get aggressive with your putts

Just because someone is a putz doesn't mean you should get aggressive with them. maybe they truly can't help it.

/

479 lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:11:41am

Morning all.

I feel like a college kid. I'm hungover on a Thursday morning. Ugh. Don't know why but last night I stayed up late and drank beer while posting/watching the boob tube. I think I'll never drink again.

480 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:11:45am

re: #469 3 wood

U.S. Open update:

*snicker*

Rich Bland is 6 over par after 4 holes. I can do that.

Looks like the course is playing a bit tough today.

The radio says it's raining there. I love to play in a light rain, you can really hit down hard on the ball hand compress it and hit a lot of crisp iron shots.

And the greens.... my oh my.
You can be quite aggressive putting, well....you have to be.
Those greens are gonna take a pounding today.

481 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:11:54am

re: #473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, aren't you supposed to be leaving?

/I think I am out, and they suck me back in.

482 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:12:44am

Good morning KenJen.

Three posts ( it's a loooong one) starting with # 364, 371 and 372.

483 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:12:56am

re: #474 3 wood

Not necessarily. The rain will slow down the greens so you can get aggressive with your putts, and the air will be heavier so the ball spin will bite more and you will controll it better.

I've had some of my all time best rounds in a light rain. I love to play in a light rain.

btw, nice evaluation of Tiger...I said last year that with all his extra weight and bad leg I was very doubtful he'd come roaring back....in fact he may be done in terms of invincibility....golf swings are a delicate thing and I just don't see him tinkering himself back into total dominance again

484 christheprofessor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:09am

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

485 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:18am

re: #469 3 wood

U.S. Open update:

*snicker*

Rich Bland is 6 over par after 4 holes. I can do that.

Looks like the course is playing a bit tough today.

The radio says it's raining there. I love to play in a light rain, you can really hit down hard on the ball hand compress it and hit a lot of crisp iron shots.

It's not so light and the forecast is for rain all day. So there goes today's 1:00 PM Yankee game also probably.

486 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:28am

re: #479 lincolntf

Morning all.

I feel like a college kid. I'm hungover on a Thursday morning. Ugh. Don't know why but last night I stayed up late and drank beer while posting/watching the boob tube. I think I'll never drink again.

You better be careful about drinking and posting. You don't want to get pulled over for PUI.

487 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:29am

re: #472 Ford_Prefect

I have tried to be careful lately to use the Leftist instead of Liberal when criticizing the extremists out there. I agree that true conservatives and true liberals are closer than people tend to think, in some ways. Those on the far left are not real liberals and those on the far right are not real conservatives. The true debate needs to be between conservative and liberal, not left and right.

That sounds right to me. Paradoxically, I use the words 'left' and 'progressive' to denote (roughly) one side of the spectrum-- but that's because the terms 'liberal' and 'classical liberal' have been somewhat co-opted of late by libertarians.

I'd agree with you that the old labels are needlessly reductive and distort the reality; we also obviously share the opinion that there's far more common ground between so called 'liberals' and 'conservatives' than the parties or the media would like to pretend.

It's fascinating to me how many of the 'values' that liberals and conservatives like to think of as uniquely their own--actually turn out to be AMERICAN values, and ones they both share. I think this is one reason why we have an ever-growing segment of our country that identifies as "independent".

488 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:29am

re: #472 Ford_Prefect


People have to be able to admit each side makes their fair share of mistakes and also have their fair share of success. As long as we are willing to stand toe to toe fighting each other over foolishness and play gotcha politics the politicians in place on both sides will continue with their pillaging of our country only pausing to fan the flames of our discontent when the spotlight gets put on them.

489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:42am

re: #484 christheprofessor

{Chris}

490 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:13:45am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

CTP ... so so sorry ...

491 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:14:21am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

C the P...so sorry for that....hang in there, better time are ahead

492 songbird  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:14:39am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

I'm so sorry! Thoughts and prayers bee-lined to the heavenlies for you today!

493 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:14:40am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Our prayers and thoughts are with you. Our sincerest condolences.

494 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:14:48am

re: #484 christheprofessor

{Chris} Prayers going up for you and your family.

495 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:14:49am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

I am so sorry. I will keep him and you in my prayers.

496 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:15:18am

re: #478 Ford_Prefect

Just because someone is a putz doesn't mean you should get aggressive with them. maybe they truly can't help it.

/

re: #484 christheprofessor

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

I'm so very sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with you.

497 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:15:23am

re: #484 christheprofessor


I'm so sorry for your loss. Hang in there and may God watch over you in your time of sadness.

498 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:15:28am

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood!

Will you be my daddy? I'm on empty.

I snickered out loud at that one.


In other sports news, it appears that some members in Congress are now interested in discussing with Mr. Sosa his statement to them in 2995, under oath, that he had never taken performance enhancing drugs.

I anticipate that Mr. Sosa will suddenly become very interested in spending a lot of time imitating the invisible man.

499 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:16:35am

re: #463 iceweasel

I was anti-gun too, at one point. interesting.

I still disagree with you though. Conservatives and liberals have a LOT in common-- respect for individuals rights, respect for privacy, a deep dislike of government telling them what to do. This is the kind of 'liberalism' that is just 'American' and is really common to almost all those who are in a liberal democracy.

I think many of our debates have been framed in a 'culture war' way that polarises people and parties, exacerbates our differences and drives us apart.

In real life they have a lot in common. I've had hard-core libertarian friends and George Bush I friends and never had a personal problem due to some difference in the way we act as a result of our political views. And those times when politics were debated face-to-face, it wasn't hard to find areas of compromise. But that is between friends. In my opinion, outside of friends or at a minimum, lacking a face-to-face discussion, most committed people will tend to look hard for differences with the other guy. Its difficult to hate the other guy if you acknowledge areas of common interest.

500 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:16:43am

re: #498 3 wood

I snickered out loud at that one.

In other sports news, it appears that some members in Congress are now interested in discussing with Mr. Sosa his statement to them in 2995, under oath, that he had never taken performance enhancing drugs.

I anticipate that Mr. Sosa will suddenly become very interested in spending a lot of time imitating the invisible man.

'roids are a curse...bring back corked bats and spitballs!

501 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:17:33am

re: #498 3 wood

I snickered out loud at that one.

In other sports news, it appears that some members in Congress are now interested in discussing with Mr. Sosa his statement to them in 2995, under oath, that he had never taken performance enhancing drugs.

I anticipate that Mr. Sosa will suddenly become very interested in spending a lot of time imitating the invisible man.

That's one hell of a run !

You're right, though, nowhere to be found...

502 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:18:42am

re: #498 3 wood

I snickered out loud at that one.

In other sports news, it appears that some members in Congress are now interested in discussing with Mr. Sosa his statement to them in 2995, under oath, that he had never taken performance enhancing drugs.

I anticipate that Mr. Sosa will suddenly become very interested in spending a lot of time imitating the invisible man.

I read somewhere that the way Sosa phrased his denial before Congress he is going to be OK. He said he never was injected, which he might not have been. That he never took "Illegal" drugs, which they were not at the time in the Dominican Republic. He may be smarter than he looks and the other Ballplayers.

503 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:19:43am

re: #498 3 wood

I snickered out loud at that one.


In other sports news, it appears that some members in Congress are now interested in discussing with Mr. Sosa his statement to them in 2995, under oath, that he had never taken performance enhancing drugs.

I anticipate that Mr. Sosa will suddenly become very interested in spending a lot of time imitating the invisible man.

Some of the coverage I saw yesterday was talking about that. The argument I heard was he supposedly did this in the Dominican were it is not illegal, so it matches his testimony to Congress that he didn't take illegal drugs. He never actually said he didn't take PED's, he said he didn't take illegal PED's. Playing symantics.

504 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:20:20am

re: #483 albusteve

btw, nice evaluation of Tiger...I said last year that with all his extra weight and bad leg I was very doubtful he'd come roaring back....in fact he may be done in terms of invincibility....golf swings are a delicate thing and I just don't see him tinkering himself back into total dominance again

Thank you for the compliment.

When you have a natural swing as bad as mine, and had to tear it apart and rebuild it move by move to be any good at all, you get the the point where you can analyze golf swings pretty well.

By the way, Johnny Miller on TV is an awful swing analyst. Most of the time when he does his thing om TV with the slow motion stuff, he's telling you wrong stuff.

505 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:20:29am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Done, Chris. Will pray for strength and peace for you and your family.

506 lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:21:06am

re: #502 Nevergiveup

Don't know about that. I watched the hearings and Sosa's interpreter was pretty adamant about Sammy never having taken any PED's. The "injecting" part doesn't ring any bells. I do know that he claimed that he'd passed every test administered and the facts now show that he was lying about that.

507 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:21:26am

as the centrifuges spin....
Barney's getting pissy again

[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]

508 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:22:04am

re: #500 albusteve

'roids are a curse...bring back corked bats and spitballs!

Spitters and corked bats never left. They are still out there. Beuhrle of the White Sox throws a real good spitter from time to time.

509 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:22:05am

re: #475 legalpad

Perhaps this is exactly the right forum to develop it. I have many ideas along these lines, some of which could used some refining, some civilizing.

Most definitely; I have no doubt that I would learn from you in developing these ideas here (and from others too). And I have to say that the experience of posting on LGF is part of what helped me to hone in on these ideas. I had dimly developed them before; but posting here (as opposed to only reading here, which I did for years before I could reg) helped so much. I am definitely all the way on the left or progressive side on many issues, if not most. Yet I find much common ground with so many posters at LGF. That's partly how I came to develop this theory.

As someone who normally infests the lib/progressive blogosphere, and who once upon a time had a political blog--I have to admit I have ideas of writing something for HuffPo or Kos called "I have met LGF and They are Us"-- it would be an exhortation for people on the left to read LGF, and also a statement of the ways in which there is so much in common at rock bottom for liberals and conservatives.

510 Desert Dog  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:22:49am

re: #506 lincolntf

Don't know about that. I watched the hearings and Sosa's interpreter was pretty adamant about Sammy never having taken any PED's. The "injecting" part doesn't ring any bells. I do know that he claimed that he'd passed every test administered and the facts now show that he was lying about that.

There should be a giant asterisk next to many of the players from this latest era. In their narrow minded and selfish attempt to improve their stats, they have tainted and harmed the game they claim to love....pathetic

511 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:23:12am

re: #507 albusteve

as the centrifuges spin....
Barney's getting pissy again

[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]


How soon until Barney compares 0bama to Scalia?

512 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:23:17am

Mike Pence just said "Ronald Reagan didn't stand at Brandenberg Gate and say 'Mr. Gorbachev, I have no opinion about this wall!'"

/heh

513 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:23:22am

re: #484 christheprofessor

I'm so sorry; I will keep you and your brother and your families in my thoughts.

514 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:23:42am

re: #506 lincolntf

Don't know about that. I watched the hearings and Sosa's interpreter was pretty adamant about Sammy never having taken any PED's. The "injecting" part doesn't ring any bells. I do know that he claimed that he'd passed every test administered and the facts now show that he was lying about that.

I really don't care all that much what happens to him as long as he never gets anywhere near the baseball Hall of Fame without a ticket. And that goes for all the rest of them.

515 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:23:55am

re: #484 christheprofessor

FUCK! NOT AGAIN!

damn, Chris. Prayers, of course.

516 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:24:03am

re: #508 3 wood

Spitters and corked bats never left. They are still out there. Beuhrle of the White Sox throws a real good spitter from time to time.

good for him!...and I hope he denies it vehemently when he's called out!...frankly I love that part of the game

517 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:24:14am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Hi, folks...

My brother passed away this morning. I would greatly appreciate any prayers or good thoughts that you might have to wish him well on his way.

I thank you all in advance, as I don't think I can stay on and post -- can't stop crying... :(

Oh my...

Prayers on the way Chris. Dear Lord, please be with Chris and family in this time of loss.....

518 Desert Dog  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:24:38am

re: #512 Spenser (with an S)

Mike Pence just said "Ronald Reagan didn't stand at Brandenberg Gate and say 'Mr. Gorbachev, I have no opinion about this wall!'"

/heh

When "being liked" is more important than principals, that is what you get.

519 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:25:00am

Fluffy, Great letter you posted. Is there a name attached with it? While reading I kept thinking term limits,term limits, term limits for senators.

520 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:26:08am

re: #501 SasquatchOnSteroids

That's one hell of a run !

Yeah, sorry, should be "2005"

521 lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:26:36am

re: #512 Spenser (with an S)

That's a great line.

I think Obama needs to "save or create" a new approach to the Iranian revolt. He's looking like the lightweight that all of his critics called him during the campaign.

522 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:26:43am

re: #516 albusteve


If it wasn't for the spitter Gaylord Perry would have never made the HOF.

523 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:27:03am

re: #509 iceweasel

Most definitely; I have no doubt that I would learn from you in developing these ideas here (and from others too). And I have to say that the experience of posting on LGF is part of what helped me to hone in on these ideas. I had dimly developed them before; but posting here (as opposed to only reading here, which I did for years before I could reg) helped so much. I am definitely all the way on the left or progressive side on many issues, if not most. Yet I find much common ground with so many posters at LGF. That's partly how I came to develop this theory.

As someone who normally infests the lib/progressive blogosphere, and who once upon a time had a political blog--I have to admit I have ideas of writing something for HuffPo or Kos called "I have met LGF and They are Us"-- it would be an exhortation for people on the left to read LGF, and also a statement of the ways in which there is so much in common at rock bottom for liberals and conservatives.


don't include me in that insidious drivel...sugarcoating liberalism is just that

524 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:27:23am

Good morning, folks! I have a question for you.

Do you think that it may be time to change my current style if someone walks up to me like they did this morning and asks if I know where they can score some "pot"?

I think it's going to be an interesting day.

525 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:27:42am

re: #522 soxfan4life

The man had a PHd in how to doctor a baseball!
BTW, mornin' all.

526 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:28:14am

re: #525 pingjockey

Hey Ping.

527 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:28:29am

re: #524 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, folks! I have a question for you.

Do you think that it may be time to change my current style if someone walks up to me like they did this morning and asks if I know where they can score some "pot"?
I think it's going to be an interesting day.


Maybe at least take a shower.
/Pops smoke and ducks

528 christheprofessor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:28:40am

Thanks, folks.

He went into the hospital three weeks ago today thinking he had a kidney stone. Turns out it was cancer all over (liver, lungs, stomach, lymph nodes...).

I'm grateful it was quick and he didn't linger.

Thank you all again for your thoughts and prayers.

My father, who is 88, shouldn't have to deal with this. It just ain't right that a man should have to bury three of his four sons (I lost a couple of brothers when I was a kid to muscular dystrophy).

529 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:28:49am

re: #509 iceweasel

Well, I'm a part-timer compared to some of these folks, but I'm all for it. Much political dialogue is dominated by demands that really do not help even those making them.

530 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:29:54am

I realize we have no iranian embassy in the US. But after reading a piece like this, I want to see Americans and Europeans in the streets protesting what is happening.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hey you smug Euros (excluding our own Euro-Lizards), YOU have iranian embassies in your countries, get your asses out there and do something to save iran and possibly yourselves. islamofascism is a lot closer to you than it is to us, and since we have no place to really protest this islamonazi regime, maybe we could use some help from YOU! The people you save may actually be yourselves!

531 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:30:19am

re: #526 rightside
Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

532 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:30:55am

re: #521 lincolntf

That's a great line.

I think Obama needs to "save or create" a new approach to the Iranian revolt. He's looking like the lightweight that all of his critics called him during the campaign.

I don't think he even realizes how bad he's being bitchslapped....but he may change direction and call it something else if he is the crafty wordsmith his supporters claim him to be

533 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:31:29am

re: #519 KenJen

The author's name is Janet Contreras. Term limits...across the board!

534 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:31:44am

Where's PETA? FNC has a tape of the vermin training with the horses to attack the check points in Gaza.

535 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:31:50am

re: #525 pingjockey

The man had a PHd in how to doctor a baseball!
BTW, mornin' all.

I was thinking about who got caught with the nail file, but that was Joe Niekro, not Perry.

536 lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:31:51am

re: #531 pingjockey

You'll quickly realize how hard it is to "remain completely still".
Otherwise, it's no biggie.

537 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:31:56am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

Just noisy and boring, very boring.

538 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:32:02am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

I've had an MRI, it's really not that bad. It can feel a bit cramped inside, but it doesn't hurt.

539 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:32:06am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

I had an open MRI on my foot. No big deal.

540 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:32:12am

re: #484 christheprofessor

You've got it my friend. There is much we don't know about the infinite. We're all going there. We've all been there.

541 apachegunner  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:32:24am

re: #414 Erik The Red

Great news. Back to being "almost normal" :)

Hiya Eric good to seeya, are you in FL yet?

542 Desert Dog  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:32:44am

re: #524 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, folks! I have a question for you.

Do you think that it may be time to change my current style if someone walks up to me like they did this morning and asks if I know where they can score some "pot"?

I think it's going to be an interesting day.

Stop wearing the fake rasta hat and NORML t-shirt and the requests for ganja should subside.
/

543 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:33:00am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?


Are you claustrophobic, you may want to take a valium prior to.

544 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:33:23am

Thanks for the MRI info. I have a knot on the left side of my neck and the docs can't figure out what it is. So MRI tonight and a biopsy thingy next Tuesday.

545 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:33:32am

re: #519 KenJen

Fluffy, Great letter you posted. Is there a name attached with it? While reading I kept thinking term limits,term limits, term limits for senators.

I have been a proponent of term limits for some time. I have actually gotten into some heated arguments about it here.

546 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:34:24am

re: #543 soxfan4life
Nah, not claustrophobic. Sleeping in a coffin for 20 years will cure you of that!

547 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:35:31am

"cruelty that shocked the World!"....hahaha!
talk about stuck on stupid....Holder won't give it up tho

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

548 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:35:36am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

I've had 3. The first time I copped a severe case of claustrophobia - and I'm not claustrophobic. But I understand that it's a common reaction and they've since developed 'open' MRI machines. Other than that, who just hear a lot of banging. It's not bad, really.

549 Flyers1974  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:35:40am

re: #524 MrSilverDragon

Maybe not. I was in my car over the weekend in broad daylight and a guy wanted to sell me crack or coke or something in little capsules. And I like to believe i'm fairly normal looking.

550 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:36:13am

re: #548 wahabicorridor
Yep, I heard it's noisy.

551 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:36:16am

re: #542 Desert Dog

Stop wearing the fake rasta hat and NORML t-shirt and the requests for ganja should subside.
/

And take the Bob Marley bumper sticker off your car.

I actually was working in an area of a nearby city where there are a lot of Jamaicans. It was amazing how many cars drove by reeking of pot.

552 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:36:17am

re: #542 Desert Dog

Stop wearing the fake rasta hat and NORML t-shirt and the requests for ganja should subside.
/

I think it's mostly the 3 foot hair, scraggly beard, and the t-shirts. ;)

Still, it's not like I don't shower or wear patchouli!

553 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:36:48am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

no big deal at all...just lie still while those blades and needles line up

554 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:37:12am

re: #553 albusteve
Riiight!

555 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:37:20am

re: #534 pingjockey

Where's PETA? FNC has a tape of the vermin training with the horses to attack the check points in Gaza.

PETA is busy going after Obama for killing the fly. They said he should have shooed it away vs. killing it. They are sending him a device that captures flies live. Chris Cuomo said this morn on GMA that there wasn't any proof that the fly was killed. Sam the weatherman had a look of disgust on his face like "why the hell are we talking about this"? I was thinking "why the hell am I watching this?"

556 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:37:28am

re: #543 soxfan4life

Are you claustrophobic, you may want to take a valium prior to.

Seconded. Good idea.

Even if you're not normally claustrophobic, for certain kinds of MRIs it is a very good idea to take something like that. Anything where your head chest etc will be covered for a long time during the process.

557 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:37:39am

re: #546 pingjockey


I'm not claustrophobic, but the prospect of being cramped up on a sub steered me away from the Navy and into the Army, so I could be cramped up in a lightly armored coffin aka M-2 Bradley instead.

558 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:37:42am

re: #531 pingjockey


Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

Some years back I had one done of a foot/ankle. For me it was not complex.

When they turned the machine on I heard a slight hum... and I started to feel tingly all over, and my temperature raised... my breath drew short and the lights of the room faded... and I looked up and could see stars instead of the ceiling... and then the heavens were torn asunder and I saw...

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SpaceJesus!

559 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:38:08am

re: #554 pingjockey

Riiight!

PJ .... use the earplugs! ...

560 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:38:13am

re: #558 freetoken
OH NOEZ!

561 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:38:35am

re: #531 pingjockey

Ping, an MRI is nothing to be afraid of. If you have an MRI with contrast, they will insert an IV for the dye and put you on the MRI table. Most MRI machines are closed, although some are open. You will be given headphones for listening to your choice of music and enter the machine for anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour , depending on your test. Some people feel claustrophic in the machines, it has never bothered me. The dye, (if used) tends to make you feel a bit warm temporarily.

Just make sure to pick your own music! Good luck to you!

562 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:38:40am

re: #558 freetoken

BEST

POST

EVER

563 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:38:54am

re: #544 pingjockey

You'll be fine.

564 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:39:08am

re: #557 soxfan4life
Heh. I was a surface sailor, but the bunks are a telephone booth size!

565 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:39:36am

re: #551 Ford_Prefect

And take the Bob Marley bumper sticker off your car.

I actually was working in an area of a nearby city where there are a lot of Jamaicans. It was amazing how many cars drove by reeking of pot.

On the plus side there is a great Jamaican bakery there. Really good beef patties. Maybe I shouldn't ask what is in them. Now that I think about it I did have the munchies all day after that.

566 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:39:45am

re: #561 Fluffy Bunny

claustrophobic...dammit. PIMF

567 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:40:12am

re: #564 pingjockey

Heh. I was a surface sailor, but the bunks are a telephone booth size!


The whole rotating bunk thing kind of gave me the creeps.

568 pingjockey  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:40:14am

re: #561 Fluffy Bunny
Thank you, they are using the dye.
Later folks, gonna go do a half day at work!

569 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:40:29am

re: #565 Ford_Prefect

On the plus side there is a great Jamaican bakery there. Really good beef patties. Maybe I shouldn't ask what is in them. Now that I think about it I did have the munchies all day after that.

FP ... jerk chicken ... yum ...

570 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #523 albusteve

don't include me in that insidious drivel...sugarcoating liberalism is just that

No one did include you. I wonder why?

PS: this word 'insidious". It does not mean what you think it means. :)

571 haakondahl  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:41:22am

re: #409 iceweasel

i didn't want to get into it, but I have some issues with that letter. And I'm not convinced it's really from who it claims to be from.

The enumerated points were okay, but then the rant started.

572 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:41:23am

Mornin' everyone. Today's Pearls Before Swine is pretty funny. I have to share it:

[Link: comics.com...]

573 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:42:46am

re: #564 pingjockey

Heh. I was a surface sailor, but the bunks are a telephone booth size!

Wow you must have been in the new Navy with bigger racks. I remember they are the same size as a grave. 3' x 6'. Thats why we called them coffin lockers.

574 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:43:04am

re: #555 KenJen

PETA is busy going after Obama for killing the fly. They said he should have shooed it away vs. killing it. They are sending him a device that captures flies live. Chris Cuomo said this morn on GMA that there wasn't any proof that the fly was killed. Sam the weatherman had a look of disgust on his face like "why the hell are we talking about this"? I was thinking "why the hell am I watching this?"

KJ ... well, flies are attracted to ...

575 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:43:22am

re: #569 JacksonTn

FP ... jerk chicken ... yum ...

I'll try that. I am going to be back there on Monday, weather permitting. If it doesn't stop raining here I am going to start building a boat.

576 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:43:54am

I bet the fly Obama killed was gay! Apparently he hates teh gayz.

577 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:44:22am

from Hot Air....
BOs house is a mess
[Link: hotair.com...]

578 freetoken  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:44:42am

re: #572 Mad Al-Jaffee

cute.

But, for LGF purposes, the one drawn for the 16th is quite appropriate!

[Link: comics.com...]

579 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:45:11am

re: #561 Fluffy Bunny

You will be given headphones for listening to your choice of music

WHA?!

I never got music.

dang.

In other news for all dog lovers?

Can dogs talk? Kinda.

From Scientific American no less.

I coulda told 'em. The Fat Beagle never shuts up and believe me, we ALWAYS know what she's saying.

580 saylorfam  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:45:43am

re: #484 christheprofessor

I am sorry for your loss. I hope you made some great memories to hang on to.

581 swamprat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:46:42am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Felt that way about my father in law;

But he seems to always be around, and I know this because everytime I forget to put away a tool or mess up something, I can feel him right there
...Laughing his ass off...
....At me.

Lord, I wish I was joking.

582 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:46:55am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

If this is a duplicate, please forgive me:

'Change for Iran' has sent the following tewwts a couple of hours ago:
'there is a long list of rebel students & given to all universities & security is to arrest them on sight'

'& gov is now running a mass media propaganda about US & Israel joint force working in some Internet sites against Iran'

'also IRG's involvement in controlling Internet & to fight back us is confirmed. I already can see lot more gov's twitts than yesterday.'

'any hope we had for Parliament to stand against ahmady is now ruined, they openly support government today.'

'and right now state TV is showing a program about how Evil Internet is and US & Britain & Israel are all behind this! this is ridiculous!'

'state TV & Radio went berserk today, all they saying are moosavi's supporters are all criminals & they will stop us at any cost

'we have to leave, it's not safe here anymore! wish us luck!'

583 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:47:19am

re: #576 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fly Obama killed was gay! Apparently he hates teh gayz.

I must ask -- is your name meant to be a pisstake of Madhur Jaffrey?

because that's what I've assumed, and I think it's damn funny.

584 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:47:20am

re: #576 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fly Obama killed was gay! Apparently he hates teh gayz.

It would be funny if it were some endangered species an O gets slapped with a hefty fine and some jail time. /

585 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:47:45am

re: #575 Ford_Prefect

I'll try that. I am going to be back there on Monday, weather permitting. If it doesn't stop raining here I am going to start building a boat.

Right.

(I hope it is the right link; no sound at work)

586 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:47:54am

Obama's alarm clock ...

587 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:48:14am

re: #486 Ford_Prefect

You better be careful about drinking and posting. You don't want to get pulled over for PUI.

Drunk Facebooking can also be pretty dangerous.

588 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:48:25am

re: #582 yma o hyd

'we have to leave, it's not safe here anymore! wish us luck!'

I have seen a lot of tweets like that.

589 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:03am

re: #579 wahabicorridor

You will be given headphones for listening to your choice of music

WHA?!

I never got music.

dang.

In other news for all dog lovers?

Can dogs talk? Kinda.

From Scientific American no less.

I coulda told 'em. The Fat Beagle never shuts up and believe me, we ALWAYS know what she's saying.

I don't want my pups to talk. I'd be afraid of what they might say. Maybe they dont really love me.

590 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:15am

re: #585 Kosh's Shadow

"Noah!"
"What!"

Love that routine. That is one of those that no matter how many times I hear it I will laugh every time.

591 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:31am

Uh oh.

Woods is 2 over after 5 holes

Double bogey on #5

592 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:34am

re: #582 yma o hyd

The students have been hit pretty hard. Still they are standing up to those thugs.

593 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:34am

re: #583 iceweasel

I must ask -- is your name meant to be a pisstake of Madhur Jaffrey?

because that's what I've assumed, and I think it's damn funny.

No, it's from the MAD Magazine writer/artist Al Jaffee. His humor was a big influence on my childhood (and adult) development. :)

594 KSK  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:36am

42

595 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:45am

re: #588 BlueCanuck

I have seen a lot of tweets like that.

Its really sad.

Meanwhile, this is the latest from 'StopAhmadi':
'Haven't we seen pattern whr only illiterate & uneducated ppl hailing dictatorship? #iranelection'

Too damn right we have!

596 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:49:53am

re: #579 wahabicorridor

You will be given headphones for listening to your choice of music

WHA?!

I never got music.

dang.

In other news for all dog lovers?

Can dogs talk? Kinda.

From Scientific American no less.

I coulda told 'em. The Fat Beagle never shuts up and believe me, we ALWAYS know what she's saying.


Akitas most definetly can talk. Ours used to talk all the friggin time when we got home from work.

597 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:50:10am

re: #579 wahabicorridor

This is why you should never get your MRI at a WalMart walk-in clinic! ; )

598 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:51:29am

Here is a video from Tehran University:

The aftermath of the basij (Pro-Government Militia) and Revolutionary Guard attack on Tehran University dormitory in Tehran in which 5 students -2 women and 3 men- hs been killed. . They also destroyed computer center and library.

599 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:51:30am

re: #528 christheprofessor

We are here for you Chris.

600 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:51:36am

re: #589 KenJen

I don't want my pups to talk. I'd be afraid of what they might say. Maybe they dont really love me.

As long as you keep feeding them they will. Just don't ever let then figure out how to feed themselves. Then you become expendable. That is why I have never liked 'outdoor' cats. When they are around they always seem to be looking at you trying to figure out how to take you down like they do rabbits.

601 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:52:10am

re: #582 yma o hyd

There's something pathetically tragic about our Community Organizer in Chief being worried that he might be perceived as "meddling" by a regime that already blames us for all the ills in the world anyway.
I hope (pray) that the Iranian citizens take their cues from the citizens of the U.S., not our President.

602 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:52:17am

re: #593 Mad Al-Jaffee

No, it's from the MAD Magazine writer/artist Al Jaffee. His humor was a big influence on my childhood (and adult) development. :)

Hmmm... That explains a lot.

/

603 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:52:43am

re: #594 KSK

42

Yes, but what is the ultimate question?

604 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:53:09am

re: #603 Ford_Prefect

Yes, but what is the ultimate question?

How many roads must a man walk down?

605 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:53:09am

re: #600 Ford_Prefect

As long as you keep feeding them they will. Just don't ever let then figure out how to feed themselves. Then you become expendable. That is why I have never liked 'outdoor' cats. When they are around they always seem to be looking at you trying to figure out how to take you down like they do rabbits.

cat's are supposed to be outdoors, it's in their genes

606 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:53:15am

re: #40 Bullskin

The '0ne' killing a fly.

There is something curiously badass about a US President killing something on film, in the Whitehouse, even if it is only a fly.

607 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:53:29am

re: #591 3 wood

Channel/network?
I'm having no luck finding it on TV.

608 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #600 Ford_Prefect

Yep...our ferals always have the look...If I were a bigger kitty, I would eat you!

609 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #600 Ford_Prefect

As long as you keep feeding them they will. Just don't ever let then figure out how to feed themselves. Then you become expendable. That is why I have never liked 'outdoor' cats. When they are around they always seem to be looking at you trying to figure out how to take you down like they do rabbits.

If my lab figures out how to feed himself and throw his own tennis ball I'm in trouble.

610 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:54:15am

re: #603 Ford_Prefect

Yes, but what is the ultimate question?

If I recall correctly, it was something like "what do you get when you multiply six by nine".*

*at least, according to the unabridged radio scripts

611 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:54:20am

re: #601 Lincolntf

From what I have seen on twitter that is there attitude. If it wasn't for that the hatred at Americans would be vile. But they realize the government isn't the people.

612 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:54:23am

Dunno how many of you are gamers but Assassins Creed 2 looks awesome

613 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:54:44am

re: #592 NJDhockeyfan

The students have been hit pretty hard. Still they are standing up to those thugs.

Yep - very courageous!

Here are some interesting snippets of info, from the Beeb:

'Mr Rafsanjani's daughter, Faezeh, addressed supporters of Mr Mousavi on Tuesday.
Mr Mousavi and reformist former President Mohammad Khatami
have sent a joint letter to the head of the judiciary asking for an end to "the violent actions against people and to free those arrested". '
(My emphasis)

These two are, of course, also ayatollahs ...
Looks like there is some dissent in the Mullah's ranks ...

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

614 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:54:49am

re: #604 Mad Al-Jaffee

How many roads must a man walk down?

Yes! that works. Now we can do the talk show curcuit.

615 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:00am

A guy has a talking dog. He brings it to a talent scout. "This dog can speak English," he claims to the unimpressed agent. "Okay, Sport," the guys says to the dog, "what’s on the top of a house?" "Roof!" the dog replies.

"Oh, come on..." the talent agent responds. "All dogs go ‘roof’."

"No, wait," the guy says. He asks the dog "what does sandpaper feel like?" "Rough!" the dog answers.

The talent agent gives a condescending blank stare. He is losing his patience.

"No, hang on," the guy says. "This one will amaze you."

He turns and asks the dog: "Who, in your opinion, was the greatest baseball player of all time?" "Ruth!" goes the dog. And the talent scout, having seen enough, boots them out of his office onto the street.

And the dog turns to the guy and says "Maybe I shoulda said DiMaggio?"

616 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:07am

re: #582 yma o hyd

'we have to leave, it's not safe here anymore! wish us luck!'

mornin' darls!

Yesterday I heard from an acquaintance who is a history prof in Calif. He had just received a call from the brother of a former student. The brother had JUST managed to get out. He said the Basiji were in the airports pulling people out of the lines based on a list they had.

617 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:22am

re: #606 Jimmah

There is something curiously badass about a US President killing something on film, in the Whitehouse, even if it is only a fly.


With every stroke of his pen he is killing the country, and all of that is on film. And it is bad not badass.

618 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:28am

re: #609 KenJen

If my lab figures out how to feed himself and throw his own tennis ball I'm in trouble.

then don't let him see this gadget...


[Link: gizmodo.com...]

619 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:42am

re: #591 3 wood

Uh oh.

Woods is 2 over after 5 holes

Double bogey on #5

It's gotta be freak en pouring out there/

620 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:45am

re: #597 Fluffy Bunny

This is why you should never get your MRI at a WalMart walk-in clinic! ; )

heh. Believe it or not, back then most of us had never heard of WalMart.

621 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:51am

re: #578 freetoken

cute.

But, for LGF purposes, the one drawn for the 16th is quite appropriate!

[Link: comics.com...]

Don't people here read xkcd? It just seems like something people here would like; it's funny, sarcastic, and often very math or tech based. It's a very smart and often very geek kind of cartoon.

todays:
[Link: xkcd.com...]

A favourite:
[Link: xkcd.com...]

622 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:55:55am

re: #535 soxfan4life

I was thinking about who got caught with the nail file, but that was Joe Niekro, not Perry.

Rick Honeycutt was caught with a file and sand paper.

623 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:56:25am

re: #558 freetoken

Spacejesus!

624 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:57:05am

re: #612 Sparkizzy

Dunno how many of you are gamers but Assassins Creed 2 looks awesome

I was pretty disappointed in the first one. While the graphics were amazing, the gameplay just got so repetitive. I got bored with it very quickly. Hopefully they'll improve gameplay on the 2nd one.

625 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:57:27am

re: #593 Mad Al-Jaffee

No, it's from the MAD Magazine writer/artist Al Jaffee. His humor was a big influence on my childhood (and adult) development. :)

OH! *smacks forehead* OF COURSE! I know exactly who he is!

626 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:57:52am

More from the Beeb:

'Ebrahim Yazdi, a foreign minister after the 1979 revolution and now leader of the Freedom Movement of Iran, was arrested while undergoing tests at a hospital in Tehran, a spokesman for his organisation said.'

'Profile of Ebrahim Yazdi:
Former aide to Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, leader of the 1979 revolution
Former deputy prime minister and the Islamic Republic's first foreign minister
Now leader of the banned but tolerated pro-democracy Freedom Movement of Iran
Aged around 76 and in ill health'

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

627 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:57:53am

re: #525 pingjockey

By the way, best I've personally ever seen at doctoring a baseball and making it sing "Marching Through Georgia" on the way to home plate was Tommy John.

628 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:58:18am

re: #622 3 wood

Rick Honeycutt was caught with a file and sand paper.

now that's some oldtime baseball there...toss 'im!....BOOOO!

629 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:58:19am

re: #622 3 wood

Rick Honeycutt was caught with a file and sand paper.

Was that when the catcher rolled the ball back to him or toward the dugout trying to hide the scuff marks?

630 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:58:38am

re: #601 Lincolntf

There's something pathetically tragic about our Community Organizer in Chief being worried that he might be perceived as "meddling" by a regime that already blames us for all the ills in the world anyway.
I hope (pray) that the Iranian citizens take their cues from the citizens of the U.S., not our President.

The Big O is a malignant narcissist. Nothing more, nothing less. And according to my husband, "Well, we're gonna get blamed regardless, so we might as well do something worth getting blamed for".

631 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:58:50am

George Galloway - even more loathsome than you thought.

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

632 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:58:54am

re: #625 iceweasel

I always loved "Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions," but what he never showed was "Ass Kickings to Snappy Answers."

633 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:59:32am

re: #618 albusteve

then don't let him see this gadget...

[Link: gizmodo.com...]

That is sweet! My dog wouldn't have to bother me all the time! Do they have one that will play with daughters Barbie dolls?

634 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:59:57am

Time to go shopping for hospital pajamas and get a hairtut, gotta get dolled up for all the cute interns that are going to be checking out my "very attractive" surgery scar.

Have a great day/night!

635 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:59:59am

re: #630 wahabicorridor

The Big O is a malignant narcissist. Nothing more, nothing less. And according to my husband, "Well, we're gonna get blamed regardless, so we might as well do something worth getting blamed for".


Along the lines of being just as easy to ask for forgiveness as it is to ask for permission.

636 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:00:09am

re: #616 wahabicorridor

'we have to leave, it's not safe here anymore! wish us luck!'

mornin' darls!

Yesterday I heard from an acquaintance who is a history prof in Calif. He had just received a call from the brother of a former student. The brother had JUST managed to get out. He said the Basiji were in the airports pulling people out of the lines based on a list they had.

Hiya, {wahabicorridor}!

Thats dreadful.

However, on a very cynical note - soon there won't be any room in the iranian prisons, and the Basiji will have so much to do guarding them, they won't have time to arrest any more people ...
//////////////////////////////////////

637 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:00:21am

re: #484 christheprofessor
So very sorry to hear the sad news. Prayers with you and your family.

638 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:00:31am

re: #631 Jimmah

I love this comment on that post:

Galloway is 60% ignorant and 60% pure twat.

639 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:00:38am

re: #633 Ford_Prefect

That is sweet! My dog wouldn't have to bother me all the time! Do they have one that will play with daughters Barbie dolls?

it could be modified for multiple functions, I sure

640 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:00:45am

re: #630 wahabicorridor

I agree with your husband.
Being scared of offending the indefensible tyrants in Iran is Obama in a nutshell. He only gets worked up when berating other Americans, when it comes to actual villains he's all hugs and kisses.

641 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:01:29am

re: #618 albusteve

then don't let him see this gadget...


[Link: gizmodo.com...]

Very very cute. Max will never lay eyes on this device.

642 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:01:40am

re: #638 Mad Al-Jaffee

I love this comment on that post:

I really wish more americans used the word twat in this way. Such a great word.

643 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:01:40am

re: #620 wahabicorridor

I, too, am old enough to remember those days. *sigh*

644 KSK  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:02:27am

Ford_Prefect

"Is there life before death?"

645 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:02:30am

'Stop The War Coalition' has a theory about the role of twitter in recent events in Iran: It's the Joos!

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

646 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:02:47am

re: #607 Lincolntf

I'm just checking the leaderboard on ESPN website

647 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:03:16am

re: #640 Lincolntf

I agree with your husband.
Being scared of offending the indefensible tyrants in Iran is Obama in a nutshell. He only gets worked up when berating other Americans, when it comes to actual villains he's all hugs and kisses.

Well, here's my problem with that approach.

Mousavi is no better. As far as I can tell, it's a knife fight between 2 mafia families.

The Iranian people are still screwed.

648 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:03:23am

re: #646 3 wood

I'm just checking the leaderboard on ESPN website

ESPN is live now on TV

649 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:03:26am

re: #624 MrSilverDragon

I was pretty disappointed in the first one. While the graphics were amazing, the gameplay just got so repetitive. I got bored with it very quickly. Hopefully they'll improve gameplay on the 2nd one.

Gamespot has an exclusive. Some added stuff: swimming, killing 2 people at the same time, set in Venice so you can get stuff (flying machine, smoke bombs) created by DaVinchy, using weapons taken from others. Crowds are more dynamic. Good stuff.

650 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:03:40am

A little analysis by a former Tehran correspondent, Jim Muir, from the Beeb:

'The crisis in Iran has moved far beyond a dispute over election results. It has turned into a struggle over the balance of power in the country, and Iran's future orientation.
That balance is being fought over in a symbiotic struggle that is taking place both behind the political scenes and, through rival displays of people power, on the streets of Tehran and other cities.
Years of contradictions have come to a head in the current crisis.

The Iranian leadership has in the past shown ingenuity and flexibility in facing serious challenges.
This is probably greater than any, and it goes to the heart of the system. It is unlikely to be easily or quickly resolved.'

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

651 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:03:44am

re: #623 Jimmah

Spacejesus!



WTF? Is that our Space Jesus or is this where he got his name?

652 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:03:45am

re: #646 3 wood

Thanks. I think ESPN just started their broadcast.

653 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:05am

re: #651 KenJen

WTF? Is that our Space Jesus or is this where he got his name?

No-one knows.

654 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:06am

re: #644 KSK

Ford_Prefect

"Is there life before death?"

I think my favorite HHGTTG quote is "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

655 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:10am

re: #649 Sparkizzy

About 200 major and minor missions

656 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:32am

re: #651 KenJen

Is he anything like Space Moose?

657 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:32am

Woods birdied #6 to now be +1.

Somebody named David Horsey is +10 after 9 holes. He's going to have a hard time breaking 90 today.

658 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:39am

re: #652 Lincolntf

Thanks. I think ESPN just started their broadcast.

Yes

659 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:04:55am

re: #636 yma o hyd

soon there won't be any room in the iranian prisons,

Prisons? My dear, you are an optimist. These people will simply disappear - into unmarked graves.

660 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:05:17am

On a more cheerful note, here is today's CARTOON from the TIMES/London

661 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:05:18am

re: #641 KenJen

Very very cute. Max will never lay eyes on this device.

I used to hit wedges and nine irons for my shepherd...talk about a workout, he'd chase those balls til he'd like to fall over dead...but he loved it

662 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:05:22am

re: #656 Mad Al-Jaffee

Is he anything like Space Moose?

I'm sure no where near as perverse as Space Moose.

663 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:05:26am

re: #657 3 wood

Woods birdied #6 to now be +1.

Somebody named David Horsey is +10 after 9 holes. He's going to have a hard time breaking 90 today.

It's suppose to be lousy weather all day. Gonna be alot of those

664 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:05:34am

re: #647 wahabicorridor

I'm not sayiong Obama should endorse Mousavi, he should encourage the freedom-seeking citizenry.
Really, what do we have to lose by "angering" the mullahs? Are they gonna hate us more than they already do?

665 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:05:54am

re: #653 Jimmah

No-one knows.

Only Space Jesus himself knows.

666 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:06:23am

Zero Punctuation: The Second Annual E3 Hype Massacre

[Link: www.escapistmagazine.com...]

667 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:06:54am

Good morning y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

668 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:07:11am

re: #660 yma o hyd

On a more cheerful note, here is today's CARTOON from the TIMES/London

I love it.

669 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:07:17am

re: #666 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Zero Punctuation: The Second Annual E3 Hype Massacre

[Link: www.escapistmagazine.com...]

He's always good :)

670 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:07:32am

re: #608 Fluffy Bunny

Yep...our ferals always have the look...If I were a bigger kitty, I would eat you!

From the internet:
Diary of a Dog - Diary of a Cat

EXCERPTS FROM A DOG'S DIARY

Day number 180
8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!
10:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
11:30 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
1:00 pm - OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVORITE!
4:00 pm - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVORITE!

Day number 181
8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!
10:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
11:30 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
1:00 pm - OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVORITE!
4:00 pm - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVORITE!

Day number 182
8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!

EXCERPTS FROM A CAT'S DIARY

DAY 752 - My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another houseplant.

DAY 761 - Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded, must try this at the top of the stairs. In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit on their favorite chair ... must try this on their bed.

DAY 765 - Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body, in attempt to make them aware of what I am capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little cat I was...Hmmm. Not working according to plan.

DAY 768 - I am finally aware of how sadistic they are. For no good reason I was chosen for the water torture. This time however it included a burning foamy chemical called "shampoo." What sick minds could invent such a liquid. My only consolation is the piece of thumb still stuck between my teeth.

DAY 771 - There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the foul odor of the glass tubes they call "beer". More importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to MY power of "allergies." Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage.

DAY 774 - I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a half-wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be an informant, and speaks with them regularly. I am certain he reports my every move. Due to his current placement in the metal room his safety is assured. But I can wait, it is only a matter of time...

671 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:07:55am

re: #661 albusteve

I used to hit wedges and nine irons for my shepherd...talk about a workout, he'd chase those balls til he'd like to fall over dead...but he loved it

When I was a kid I knew someone that had an Irish Setter. The owner used to throw rocks into a lake and the dog would go swimming after them. Dog never did catch on. The owner was a dog trainer and he always said that Setters were the dumbest dogs around.

672 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:08:07am

re: #667 realwest

Good morning y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

morning, real. Sad news today. You might to to email christheprofessor. His brother died this morning.

673 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:08:18am

re: #664 Lincolntf

I'm not sayiong Obama should endorse Mousavi, he should encourage the freedom-seeking citizenry.
Really, what do we have to lose by "angering" the mullahs? Are they gonna hate us more than they already do?

a flimsy excuse...and shameful to even use

674 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:08:34am

re: #670 Kosh's Shadow

Bookmarked

675 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:08:37am

re: #610 MrSilverDragon

If I recall correctly, it was something like "what do you get when you multiply six by nine".*

*at least, according to the unabridged radio scripts

Which is followed by Ford Prefect saying "I always thought there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe."

676 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:08:58am

re: #659 wahabicorridor

Prisons? My dear, you are an optimist. These people will simply disappear - into unmarked graves.

Somehow, I am not quite so sure about that. The parents of these 'vanished' are apparently also getting in on the act. Night before last, the Iranian twitters said that there were thousands ont heir balconies in the night, shouting 'Death to the dictator' ...

Killing them all would be decidedly counterproductive.

But on the other hand - who knows what these mad mullahs are going to do.
After all, we had another dictator not so long ago who thought killing off all the learned, the students, the intellectual elite and the middle classes was a jolly good idea.
His name was Pol Pot ...

677 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:09:08am

re: #667 realwest

Good morning y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Real! Good morning. It is cold and raining here in CT and the forecast is for more of the same for the next week.

678 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:09:29am

re: #629 soxfan4life

Was that when the catcher rolled the ball back to him or toward the dugout trying to hide the scuff marks?

No, the file actually fell out of his back pocket on the mound and the 1st base ump saw it.

Don Drysdale had such strong hands that he would tear the stitches on the ball with his thumb while he was rubbing a new ball up with rosin, thus raising a part of the cover and he'd could make the ball drop, rise, do whatever he wanted.

679 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:10:13am

re: #667 realwest

Good morning y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Hiya, {rw}!

I hope you're fine and dany and all is brilliant for you and your Mom!

Its cold and grey here - not that thats anything new in this place!

680 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:10:19am

re: #672 wahabicorridor
Oh my God. I'll do it now - but first - was it unexpected (like an accident or something)?!

681 Athens Runaway  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:10:21am

re: #654 Ford_Prefect

There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

My favorite.

682 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:10:42am

re: #671 Ford_Prefect

When I was a kid I knew someone that had an Irish Setter. The owner used to throw rocks into a lake and the dog would go swimming after them. Dog never did catch on. The owner was a dog trainer and he always said that Setters were the dumbest dogs around.

haha!...oops that's cruel....an old buddy has several black labs that would dive for rocks in 4-5ft of water....then climb the ladder back up for another toss

683 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:10:56am

re: #616 wahabicorridor

'we have to leave, it's not safe here anymore! wish us luck!'

mornin' darls!

Yesterday I heard from an acquaintance who is a history prof in Calif. He had just received a call from the brother of a former student. The brother had JUST managed to get out. He said the Basiji were in the airports pulling people out of the lines based on a list they had.

I wonder if they had nukes, if Ahmadinejad would be using them on his own people.
And blaming it on the Great and Little Satans, (the US and Israel) of course.

684 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:11:06am

So golf people, are they gonna play in rain all day no matter what?

685 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:11:32am

re: #667 realwest
Morning real, hope you are doing well. Hey did you read that story about the courageous B.C. mother who fought a cougar off her daughter? Yeah, after it was all over the little girl asked "Why didn't the kitty play nice?"

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

686 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:02am

re: #670 Kosh's Shadow

So true. So true.

687 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:03am

re: #673 albusteve

a flimsy excuse...and shameful to even use


Ironically, although we are taking pains not to interfere, we are being blamed anyway.

688 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:34am

re: #678 3 wood

No, the file actually fell out of his back pocket on the mound and the 1st base ump saw it.

Don Drysdale had such strong hands that he would tear the stitches on the ball with his thumb while he was rubbing a new ball up with rosin, thus raising a part of the cover and he'd could make the ball drop, rise, do whatever he wanted.

never heard that one...someone should write a book on pro baseball cheaters, antics etc....

689 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:42am

re: #679 yma o hyd
Hey {yma} - well things could be better but also could be worse, thanks. And I always thought cold and damp was the default weather condion for Wales, no?!

690 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:43am

Here's an interesting tweet from StopAhmadi:

'Confirm? "Yesterday at London protest, sum ppl w/ speakers allegedly wr wearing Hizbolla armbands & other sign of Basiji"'

Nothing on the news about this here in Wales - but why am I not surprised!

691 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:51am

Why didn't they just delay the US Open by one day?

692 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:12:59am

re: #660 yma o hyd

Good one. Saw a picture yesterday that was similar. Only it was Ahmadinejad on the chair.

693 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:13:05am

re: #684 Nevergiveup

I think so. I watched Tiger blow his T shot on the opening this AM before heading into work.

694 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:13:12am

Duck and Cover Hawaii ...

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

695 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:13:26am

re: #531 pingjockey

Back atcha!
Anybody here ever had an MRI? I have one scheduled for tonight. How weird is it?

Not weird at all, except that they slide you into a large tube; some people have a claustrophobic reaction to this, but it didn't bother me. You don't feel anything while the scan is performed, but you have to hold as still as possible, and the scan takes a while, so boredom is a problem.

Some places will give you valium or another such drug to deal with claustrophobia or any other panicky feelings, if you request it.

Overall, though, there's nothing to it. Quite similar to getting an x-ray, but without the radiation.

696 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:13:30am

I've still to read the last in the Hitch-Hiker's series - something to look forward to.

697 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:13:31am

re: #680 realwest

Oh my God. I'll do it now - but first - was it unexpected (like an accident or something)?!

I'll email you right now.

698 Athens Runaway  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:14:23am

re: #696 Jimmah

I've still to read the last in the Hitch-Hiker's series - something to look forward to.

It's interesting to say the least.

699 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:14:28am

re: #685 turn
Good morning turn! NO I hadn't seen that - what a heck of a story!
How are you doing today?

700 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:14:46am

re: #697 wahabicorridor
Thanks a lot!

701 SummerSong  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:14:51am

Ouchie

Clinton Fractures Elbow -

WASHINGTON -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton fractured her right elbow during a fall Wednesday, her chief of staff said.

Mrs. Clinton was on her way to the White House when she fell and injured her elbow, chief of staff Cheryl Mills said in a statement released late Wednesday.

Mrs. Clinton was treated at The George Washington University Hospital, just a few blocks from State Department headquarters, before going home. She will undergo surgery to repair her elbow in the coming week, Ms. Mills said.

"Secretary Clinton appreciates the professionalism and kindness she received from the medical team who treated her this evening and looks forward to resuming her full schedule soon," Ms. Mills said.

Mrs. Clinton had been scheduled to join actress Angelina Jolie on Thursday morning at a Washington event marking World Refugee Day. That event has been removed from Mrs. Clinton's public schedule.

Copyright © 2009 Associated Press

702 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:15:10am

re: #696 Jimmah

I've still to read the last in the Hitch-Hiker's series - something to look forward to.

I found "Mostly Harmless" to be kinda boring, and having a bit of a depressing "wrap-up". YMMV.

703 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:15:13am

re: #681 Athens Runaway

My favorite.

Then there is the whole 'Babel fish proves the non existence of God' thing. Brilliant.

704 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:15:20am

Greets and saluts from the soggy and damp NYC metro area (again, the sun is hard to come by these days as we're stuck in a wet weather pattern that will persist into the weekend). Of course, such troubles are insignificant when compared to the ongoing situation in Iran, where defiance in the face of brutal crackdown is omnipresent.

Some things to keep in mind:
1) Twitter remains a key way for information to come out, but take with the usual rules of skepticism - verification is hard to come by.
2) The media doesn't have it any better, with Ahmadinejad clamping down on access;
3) The protests continue, and the locations are just as interesting as who is doing the protesting - Totten notes that the protests against Ahmadinejad are coming in areas where he previously had the strongest support - urban areas (contrary to CW).
4) The mullahs time may be through - or at least Khamenei, because he was seen as infalliable, and yet here he is backing the thug Ahmadinejad as he tries to steal still more power.
5) Mousavi isn't a saint in all this, he's just a different kind of leader - not necessarily better. It remains to be seen what he can or is willing to do, but I don't expect him to give up Iran's nuclear program or the anti-Israel rhetoric which has served the mullahs well for 30 years.
6) The courage of the Iranian people in the face of crackdown remains remarkable.

705 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:15:23am

re: #682 albusteve

haha!...oops that's cruel....an old buddy has several black labs that would dive for rocks in 4-5ft of water....then climb the ladder back up for another toss

Luke doesn't do that but my buddy had a lab that would literally dive that deep and bring back rocks, not necessarily the one you threw but a rock none the less.

706 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:15:42am

re: #689 realwest

Hey {yma} - well things could be better but also could be worse, thanks. And I always thought cold and damp was the default weather condion for Wales, no?!

Weelllll ..... wouldn't say exactly 'default' - but Wales is not exactly known for its mediterranean sunshine, thats for sure!

I do hope things will get to the 'better' state for you pretty soon!

{rw}!

707 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:15:56am

re: #676 yma o hyd

His name was Pol Pot ...

who died a natural death in his own bed.

708 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:16:26am

Suspension of play at US Open

709 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:17:36am

re: #480 SasquatchOnSteroids

It's raining alright. Bethpage is located right below the T in Syosset on the map.

710 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:17:36am

re: #676 yma o hyd

Somehow, I am not quite so sure about that. The parents of these 'vanished' are apparently also getting in on the act. Night before last, the Iranian twitters said that there were thousands ont heir balconies in the night, shouting 'Death to the dictator' ...

Killing them all would be decidedly counterproductive.

But on the other hand - who knows what these mad mullahs are going to do.
After all, we had another dictator not so long ago who thought killing off all the learned, the students, the intellectual elite and the middle classes was a jolly good idea.
His name was Pol Pot ...

Of course, doing that makes it harder to build the technology needed to be a world power. Not impossible; many people worked for Stalin while imprisoned, but it is harder.

711 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:18:00am

re: #702 MrSilverDragon

I found "Mostly Harmless" to be kinda boring, and having a bit of a depressing "wrap-up". YMMV.

The first three books in the trilogy are definitely the best. he got a little preachy after that. But still good. His Dirk Gently books are also good.

712 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:18:24am

Ok, this is hilarious in a sick sort of way, if you love to laugh at the French.

France’s hapless former prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, once told a Le Figaro journalist that what France really wanted was to be raped by a strong leader. “La France veut qu’on la prenne,” said the suave diplomat: France wants to be taken by force. While Villepin’s record for taking his nation’s temperature is pretty poor, it seems that on the matter of France’s deepest desires, he was probably right.

Sarko the Sex Dwarf

713 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:18:26am

Hi. My iPhone can now cut and paste. I need nothing more out of life.

714 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:18:29am

re: #699 realwest

Good morning turn! NO I hadn't seen that - what a heck of a story!
How are you doing today?

Doing well, hey I tried to get your email from your blue nic yesterday but that darn safe mail thingy doesn't work for me. When I type in "turn" and repeat the pass code it keeps comiing back "try again". Do I need to have a blue nic in order to use that thing?

715 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:19:07am

re: #711 Ford_Prefect

I wish he could have finished "Salmon of Doubt". The tease you get in the book of the same name, which is a compilation of his unpublished works, was really good.

716 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:19:35am

U.S. and Israeli sources say the note was followed by a verbal communication clarifying that the Obama administration thinks Israel's linkage of the case of abducted soldier Gilad Shalit and the opening of the crossings was not constructive

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I hope my Liberal Jewish friends and relatives who voted for these "honest brokers" can feel the love now.

717 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:19:36am

re: #705 turn

Luke doesn't do that but my buddy had a lab that would literally dive that deep and bring back rocks, not necessarily the one you threw but a rock none the less.

good doggie....dogs/water is special....my shepherd was a tremendous swimmer...he freaked when he got out in a boat

718 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:19:59am

re: #713 Occasional Reader

Hi. My iPhone can now cut and paste. I need nothing more out of life.

It comes with scissors and glue?

719 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:20:10am

re: #696 Jimmah

I've still to read the last in the Hitch-Hiker's series - something to look forward to.

Skip the movie, though. The radio version and the original BBC TV series are good.

720 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:20:25am

re: #708 Nevergiveup

Suspension of play at US Open

now Tiger has to think about it...hmmm

721 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:20:28am

re: #684 Nevergiveup

So golf people, are they gonna play in rain all day no matter what?

As long as there is no lightning and water does not start pooling on the greens, sure. It's much easier to throw approach shots at the flag in conditions like this.

722 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:20:38am

re: #690 yma o hyd

Here's an interesting tweet from StopAhmadi:

'Confirm? "Yesterday at London protest, sum ppl w/ speakers allegedly wr wearing Hizbolla armbands & other sign of Basiji"'

Nothing on the news about this here in Wales - but why am I not surprised!

I just saw this video with a translation:

Translation: These houses were broken into the night before by Palestini or Lebanese Hezbollah imported into the country by ahmadi et al (same people that have been busy beating up Iranian women and killing Iranian university students)

Residents are saying "an Iranian would never do that to another Iranian"

723 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:20:54am

re: #713 Occasional Reader

Hi. My iPhone can now cut and paste. I need nothing more out of life.

Then send me your banking account number and routing number and I'll guarantee that for ya? Oh and your credit card Number also.
/

724 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:21:13am

re: #718 Ford_Prefect

It comes with scissors and glue?

No, I've shattered the glass screen and use the shards for the "cutting" part...

725 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:21:28am

re: #708 Nevergiveup

Well I guess turn got that wrong. Good maybe I'll be able to watch it then.

726 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:21:29am

re: #713 Occasional Reader

Hi. My iPhone can now cut and paste. I need nothing more out of life.

I'll trade you for a Blackberry Storm.


What, no deal?

727 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:21:41am

@PersianKiwi has been tweeting this repeatedly:
'

- FOLLOW THIS LINK - RT #Iranelection - RT RT RT - subtitle for Mousavi and send him the link'

They are asking Farsi speakers to subtitle this.

728 KenJen  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:21:47am

The sky is getting scary here in Louisville. I'm goning to batten down the hatches. Later guys.

729 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:02am

re: #713 Occasional Reader

I thought you needed a keyboard for that puppy.

730 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:05am

re: #705 turn

Luke doesn't do that but my buddy had a lab that would literally dive that deep and bring back rocks, not necessarily the one you threw but a rock none the less.

I have fun throwing snowballs to a couple of my poodles.
Their expression when they catch one and it falls apart, while they wonder where it went, is priceless.

731 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:35am

re: #697 wahabicorridor
Received and replied to {wahabi}!

732 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:36am

re: #714 turn

Doing well, hey I tried to get your email from your blue nic yesterday but that darn safe mail thingy doesn't work for me. When I type in "turn" and repeat the pass code it keeps comiing back "try again". Do I need to have a blue nic in order to use that thing?

I know this may be obvious, but you have to type in the passcode in REVERSE ORDER. The instructions say that but it's easy to just blank out and miss that and type them as they appear on the screen. Could that be your problem?

733 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:48am

re: #714 turn

Doing well, hey I tried to get your email from your blue nic yesterday but that darn safe mail thingy doesn't work for me. When I type in "turn" and repeat the pass code it keeps comiing back "try again". Do I need to have a blue nic in order to use that thing?

YOu have to type the passcode backwards.

734 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:54am

re: #688 albusteve

never heard that one...someone should write a book on pro baseball cheaters, antics etc....

Mike Scott of the Astros threw a great spitter.

I saw him start out Gary Carter of the Mets with one during the playoffs, and you could see Carter turn to the umpire ans say "Oh, come on!"

Scott did not even crack a smile.

735 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:22:55am

re: #690 yma o hyd

Here's an interesting tweet from StopAhmadi:

'Confirm? "Yesterday at London protest, sum ppl w/ speakers allegedly wr wearing Hizbolla armbands & other sign of Basiji"'

Nothing on the news about this here in Wales - but why am I not surprised!


Because of the big pro-Hizballah rallies in the UK (and elsewhere) during the "summer war", perhaps?

Delightful people, aren't they?

736 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:23:50am

re: #714 turn

Doing well, hey I tried to get your email from your blue nic yesterday but that darn safe mail thingy doesn't work for me. When I type in "turn" and repeat the pass code it keeps comiing back "try again". Do I need to have a blue nic in order to use that thing?

No, you don't - but did you type the pass code in the right order?

Mail won't get through if you don't ...

737 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:23:53am

re: #713 Occasional Reader

Hi. My iPhone can now cut and paste. I need nothing more out of life.

... except the NEW iPhone, of course. Plus, a bunch of other stuff. Oh, and world peace, and personal fulfillment, and...

738 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:24:28am

re: #734 3 wood

Mike Scott of the Astros threw a great spitter.

I saw him start out Gary Carter of the Mets with one during the playoffs, and you could see Carter turn to the umpire ans say "Oh, come on!"

Scott did not even crack a smile.

well Carter would know I guess

739 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:24:31am

re: #722 NJDhockeyfan

There's no crime in Iran, including vandalism? I don't know. It's easy to blame it on foreigners - Ahmadinejad blames the US and West for encouraging and inciting demonstrations. The anti-Ahmadinejad people can blame Hamas and Hizbullah, because blaming fellow Iranians for the violence is much harder to grasp.

740 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:24:51am

re: #717 albusteve

good doggie....dogs/water is special....my shepherd was a tremendous swimmer...he freaked when he got out in a boat

Before I got Luke (as a Christmas present for the turnwife, ha!) I had a hard time deciding between a Shepard and a lab. One of the best dogs I had was a Shepard, named him Fritz. He didn't care for the water much but talk about good around my young boys and one hell of a watch dog. Smart too.

741 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:25:01am

re: #716 Nevergiveup

U.S. and Israeli sources say the note was followed by a verbal communication clarifying that the Obama administration thinks Israel's linkage of the case of abducted soldier Gilad Shalit and the opening of the crossings was not constructive

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I hope my Liberal Jewish friends and relatives who voted for these "honest brokers" can feel the love now.

PB0 administraion = hearts of stone where Israel is concerned ...

742 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:25:05am

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Galloway inviting us to be impressed by Ahmedinejads show of populist 'socialist' piety ('he has never worn a suit since he took office'), only to be told he's wrong on that anyway.

More telling, his bullshit claim to have called Ahmedinejad out on his 'disgraceful' holocaust denial 'many times' is busted too.

743 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:25:08am

re: #716 Nevergiveup

U.S. and Israeli sources say the note was followed by a verbal communication clarifying that the Obama administration thinks Israel's linkage of the case of abducted soldier Gilad Shalit and the opening of the crossings was not constructive

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I hope my Liberal Jewish friends and relatives who voted for these "honest brokers" can feel the love now.

OTOH, the Red Cross is actually complaining that they don't have access to Shalit.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) criticized Hamas on Thursday for its continued refusal to allow the organization's representatives to visit captured IDF soldier Gilad Schalit, as well as its refusal to allow him contact with his family throughout three years of captivity.
744 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:25:54am

re: #736 yma o hyd

{yma} yes I think so, even used caps too. I must be doing something wrong, I'll try again.

745 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:26:04am

re: #743 Kosh's Shadow

Think he is still alive? Or even in Gaza?

746 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:26:10am

Video of Dinnerjacket supporters:

Pass this around on Twitter. It's important that people see the bogus pro-Ahmadinejad "rally" for what it really is--a manufactured event with only a few hundred people participating. Photos of this were heavily photoshopped by the government to appear much larger than it was.

747 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:26:18am

re: #695 SixDegrees

Overall, though, there's nothing to it. Quite similar to getting an x-ray, but without the radiation.

But noisy as hell!

748 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:26:33am

re: #667 realwest

Good morning y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Hey realwest!

Can you please put me on the Prayer List, Leah bat Rachel, for a successful Job Interview this afternoon.

Thank you all the Lizards who responded to helpfully last night by recommending successful interview techniques. I printed out some pages from the company's website with the complete job description, and matching it up with highlights of my previous experience.

I have been out of fulltime work for 2 years (sucky Michigan economy) so this means a lot to me. If it wasn't for the Zionist Mall (which is a part time gig) I don't know how I could survive.

749 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:26:36am

re: #722 NJDhockeyfan

Indeed, there have been many tweets about Pali and Hizbollah people having been ferried to Iran to beat up the dissenters.

750 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:26:36am

re: #733 VioletTiger

YOu have to type the passcode backwards.

No shit, duh! Thanks violet and yma.

751 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:27:17am

re: #738 albusteve

well Carter would know I guess

How do you think Ron Darling through that sharp "sinker" of his?

752 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:27:47am

Looks like the North Koreans are going to aim for Hawaii. Will Obama protect his homeland? Your move, Barry.

753 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:27:48am

re: #748 Alouette

Good luck Alouette.

754 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:27:48am

re: #732 iceweasel

I know this may be obvious, but you have to type in the passcode in REVERSE ORDER. The instructions say that but it's easy to just blank out and miss that and type them as they appear on the screen. Could that be your problem?

When it comes to turn always assume he'll overlook the obvious, ha. Thanks.

755 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:27:59am

re: #751 3 wood

No messing with Ron! (He went to my high school.)

756 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:28:08am

re: #729 lawhawk

I thought you needed a keyboard for that puppy.

And here's the thing with that:

Please Note: The BTKEY Mini for the Apple iPhone will not ship until Apple updates the iPhone to accept bluetooth input. No date has been given as of yet.

I'm confused. Even my humble 1st Gen iPhone has bluetooth. What's
the problem?

757 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:28:20am

re: #735 Occasional Reader

Because of the big pro-Hizballah rallies in the UK (and elsewhere) during the "summer war", perhaps?

Delightful people, aren't they?

Yeah - sooo politically savvy, aren't they!

Obviously, the pali-supporting LLL would demonstrate for dinnerjacket.

758 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:29:02am

re: #737 Occasional Reader

... except the NEW iPhone, of course. Plus, a bunch of other stuff. Oh, and world peace, and personal fulfillment, and...

Well I'm gonna to go then. And I don't need any of this. I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this.
[picks up an ashtray]
And that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this. The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this. And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.
[walking outside]
And I don't need one other thing, except my dog.
[dog barks]
I don't need my dog.

759 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:29:07am

re: #719 Kosh's Shadow

Skip the movie, though. The radio version and the original BBC TV series are good.

I watched the series as a kid - funniest thing on tv at the time. The movie didn't work for me either - I don't think I managed to watch the whole thing.

760 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:29:32am

re: #745 Nevergiveup

Think he is still alive? Or even in Gaza?

I don't think Shalit is alive, or they'd give some evidence so they can keep asking for more.

This is only one of the reasons that Israel should go back to their policy of never freeing anyone to get hostages released, and, either kill or imprison the Hamas leadership as war criminals, who do not get Geneva convention protections.

761 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:29:40am

re: #740 turn

Before I got Luke (as a Christmas present for the turnwife, ha!) I had a hard time deciding between a Shepard and a lab. One of the best dogs I had was a Shepard, named him Fritz. He didn't care for the water much but talk about good around my young boys and one hell of a watch dog. Smart too.

for me personally I would never own anything but a shepherd...high bred, top quality....a most awsome beast

762 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:29:55am

re: #752 VioletTiger

Looks like the North Koreans are going to aim for Hawaii. Will Obama protect his homeland? Your move, Barry.

Clearly, we need to cut missile defense even more, in order to be less "provocative".

Hope! Change!

763 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:29:56am

re: #739 lawhawk

There's no crime in Iran, including vandalism? I don't know. It's easy to blame it on foreigners - Ahmadinejad blames the US and West for encouraging and inciting demonstrations. The anti-Ahmadinejad people can blame Hamas and Hizbullah, because blaming fellow Iranians for the violence is much harder to grasp.

I think they don't just 'blame' - there seems to be a claer difference in their speech, which according to some tweets is vastly different from that which the native Iranian Arabs speak.

I think this is not just a rumour.

764 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:30:06am

re: #752 VioletTiger

I wonder if Obama will deign to pay attention to the bitter North Koreans clinging to their nukes and copies of Das Kapital.

765 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #758 Ford_Prefect

He hates these cans! More cans here!

766 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:30:59am

re: #730 Kosh's Shadow

ha, my MIL just emailed me a beautiful picture of a black lab (he looks just like Luke) with the caption MANS BEST FRIEND

"If you don't believe it, just try this experiment.

Put your dog and your wife in the trunk of the car and drive around for for an hour.
When you open the trunk, which one is really happy to see you?

767 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:10am

re: #765 Mad Al-Jaffee

These cans are defective!

768 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:14am

re: #759 Jimmah

I watched the series as a kid - funniest thing on tv at the time. The movie didn't work for me either - I don't think I managed to watch the whole thing.

The movie would have been much better if they had allowed Mos Def to expound on political matters and world affairs.

//

769 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:22am

I thought the color blue, not black, was the symbol of mourning in Iran...o well.

770 subsailor68  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:26am

re: #748 Alouette

Hey realwest!

Can you please put me on the Prayer List, Leah bat Rachel, for a successful Job Interview this afternoon.

Thank you all the Lizards who responded to helpfully last night by recommending successful interview techniques. I printed out some pages from the company's website with the complete job description, and matching it up with highlights of my previous experience.

I have been out of fulltime work for 2 years (sucky Michigan economy) so this means a lot to me. If it wasn't for the Zionist Mall (which is a part time gig) I don't know how I could survive.

Hi Alouette! Best of luck on the interview! I wasn't here last night, so if this tip was already covered for ya, I apologize. I was taught years ago that one important task prior to an interview is to really research the company - know what it does, how it's structured, who the managers are, etc. It's also helpful to come up with a list of questions you'd like to ask - but to avoid questions that appear to be self-serving. Interviewers are impressed when you know about the company, and have questions that indicate you're really interested in helping them achieve their mission.

Knock 'em dead!

771 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:29am

re: #765 Mad Al-Jaffee

He hates these cans! More cans here!

I was born a poor black child.

772 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:31am

re: #763 yma o hyd

Iranians aren't Arabs. They are persians. Small difference mind you, but completely different languages and attitudes.

773 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:31:46am

re: #766 turn

That must be one of those "guy jokes". I don't get it.

774 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:32:20am

re: #759 Jimmah

I watched the series as a kid - funniest thing on tv at the time. The movie didn't work for me either - I don't think I managed to watch the whole thing.

I got through the whole movie on the Sci-Fi channel, but only found maybe 5-10 minutes of actual humor in it; not worth the 2 hours invested.
And Trillian was wearing too much clothing.

775 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:32:46am

re: #772 BlueCanuck

Iranians aren't Arabs. They are persians. Small difference mind you, but completely different languages and attitudes.


It's a big difference to them.

776 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:33:09am

re: #774 Kosh's Shadow

I got through the whole movie on the Sci-Fi channel, but only found maybe 5-10 minutes of actual humor in it; not worth the 2 hours invested.
And Trillian was wearing too much clothing.

I agree...on both counts.

777 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:33:19am

re: #740 turn

Smart too.

Shepards are great dogs. Mine was Dylan. When hubby and I decided to get a dog (finally) I thought about another one (along with Labs and Rotties), but decided all of them were just too big to carry if they ever needed to be. But one thing - I don't know of ONE law enforcement agency that will use American-bred shepards. Fairfax county gets them from the Czechs and Hungarians. I spent a summer helping train shepards for the Penna. State police and those dogs came from - wait for it - Japan.

778 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:33:37am

re: #761 albusteve

for me personally I would never own anything but a shepherd...high bred, top quality....a most awsome beast

I would agree they are one of the best, there is the hip thing though just like with my Danes. turnspawn learned to hoist himself up from a crawl by clinging onto Fritz.

779 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:34:08am

re: #772 BlueCanuck

Iranians aren't Arabs. They are persians. Small difference mind you, but completely different languages and attitudes.

Oh absolutely - but there are some Arab tribes living in Iran - a few people said it might have been those who beat up dissenters, but that was refuted by tweeters such as StopAhamadi who pointed out the different pronounciations of those and the Palis.

780 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:34:11am

re: #771 Ford_Prefect

Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.

781 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:34:20am

re: #772 BlueCanuck

Iranians aren't Arabs. They are persians. Small difference mind you, but completely different languages and attitudes.

I think yma was referring to the Iranian Arab minority? (Which do exist, BTW.)

782 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:34:50am

re: #768 Occasional Reader

The movie would have been much better if they had allowed Mos Def to expound on political matters and world affairs.

//

Ah yes - "Mr Definitely". Bloody moonbat.

783 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:35:24am

re: #777 wahabicorridor

Shepards are great dogs. Mine was Dylan. When hubby and I decided to get a dog (finally) I thought about another one (along with Labs and Rotties), but decided all of them were just too big to carry if they ever needed to be. But one thing - I don't know of ONE law enforcement agency that will use American-bred shepards. Fairfax county gets them from the Czechs and Hungarians. I spent a summer helping train shepards for the Penna. State police and those dogs came from - wait for it - Japan.

What - not one from their proper home breeding ground, Germany?
Awww ....

784 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:10am

re: #782 Jimmah

Ah yes - "Mr Definitely". Bloody moonbat.

I think Mr. Definitely has had to sleep with a nightlight ever since his encounter with Hitch.

785 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:18am

re: #769 J.S.

I thought the color blue, not black, was the symbol of mourning in Iran...o well.

I don't recall where in Canada you are (I think eastern) at any rate this was a happy story.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

This didn't take place too far from one of my favoite places, Salt Spring Island.

786 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:18am

re: #780 Mad Al-Jaffee

"You should call that dog Shithead."
"OK. Come on Shithead."

787 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:21am

re: #777 wahabicorridor

Shepards are great dogs. Mine was Dylan. When hubby and I decided to get a dog (finally) I thought about another one (along with Labs and Rotties), but decided all of them were just too big to carry if they ever needed to be. But one thing - I don't know of ONE law enforcement agency that will use American-bred shepards. Fairfax county gets them from the Czechs and Hungarians. I spent a summer helping train shepards for the Penna. State police and those dogs came from - wait for it - Japan.

When I was young, my parents got me a Shepherd, but that was the time when the US ones had some problems. This one was vicious. Go to hit it with a newspaper, it would bite the newspaper. After it bit my ear, we gave it back to the pet store.
Now we have poodles, and the little ones really like to lick my ears; I guess they want to make up for what their predecessor did.

788 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:22am

re: #530 _RememberTonyC

I realize we have no iranian embassy in the US. But after reading a piece like this, I want to see Americans and Europeans in the streets protesting what is happening.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hey you smug Euros (excluding our own Euro-Lizards), YOU have iranian embassies in your countries, get your asses out there and do something to save iran and possibly yourselves. islamofascism is a lot closer to you than it is to us, and since we have no place to really protest this islamonazi regime, maybe we could use some help from YOU! The people you save may actually be yourselves!

If anyone listens to Brian and the Judge on FOX News Radio, you may have heard me call in at 9:45am today and say what is in my post #530. I was extremely articulate :)

789 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:40am

re: #779 yma o hyd

re: #781 Occasional Reader

Ah, thanks. Wasn't aware of that.

790 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:36:41am

re: #762 Occasional Reader

Clearly, we need to cut missile defense even more, in order to be less "provocative".

Hope! Change!

They have lousy aim, over Japan and aiming for Hawaii will be quite a trick.

791 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:37:20am

re: #760 Kosh's Shadow

I don't think Shalit is alive, or they'd give some evidence so they can keep asking for more.

This is only one of the reasons that Israel should go back to their policy of never freeing anyone to get hostages released, and, either kill or imprison the Hamas leadership as war criminals, who do not get Geneva convention protections.

I don't think he is alive either, unfortunately.

792 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:37:37am

re: #786 Ford_Prefect

Oh, this is the best pizza in a cup ever. This guy is unbelievable. He ran the old Cup 'o Pizza guy out of business. People come from all over to eat this.

793 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:37:46am

re: #789 BlueCanuck

re: #781 Occasional Reader

Ah, thanks. Wasn't aware of that.

Don't worry - I wsn't aware of that either, until a couple of days ago ...!

794 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:38:20am

BBIAW!

795 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:38:24am

re: #790 avanti

They have lousy aim, over Japan and aiming for Hawaii will be quite a trick.

And since we can always count on them having exactly the same level of technology, and never improving on it, we can go ahead and scrap missile defense. What a relief!

Hope! Change!

796 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:38:44am

re: #784 Occasional Reader

I think Mr. Definitely has had to sleep with a nightlight ever since his encounter with Hitch.

There's a few like that.

797 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:39:11am

re: #789 BlueCanuck

re: #781 Occasional Reader

Ah, thanks. Wasn't aware of that.

Even less well-known are the Iranian Scots.

"If it isn't Iranian Scottish, it's shite! Allahu akbar!"

798 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:39:14am

re: #792 Mad Al-Jaffee

Navin, I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass.

799 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:39:30am

I think the twitters I have been following are at that demo which is taking place right now.
Nothing coming through ...

800 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:39:31am

re: #798 Ford_Prefect

I know we've only known each other four weeks and three days, but to me it seems like nine weeks and five days. The first day seemed like a week and the second day seemed like five days. And the third day seemed like a week again and the fourth day seemed like eight days. And the fifth day you went to see your mother and that seemed just like a day, and then you came back and later on the sixth day, in the evening, when we saw each other, that started seeming like two days, so in the evening it seemed like two days spilling over into the next day and that started seeming like four days, so at the end of the sixth day on into the seventh day, it seemed like a total of five days. And the sixth day seemed like a week and a half. I have it written down, but I can show it to you tomorrow if you want to see it.

801 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:40:31am

re: #773 redstateredneck

That must be one of those "guy jokes". I don't get it.

I guess it is red, you know I can't even explain the humor in it for me. I guess the notiion that our wives can't handle even the slightest type of "abuse" but the dog is happy to get it or something. Sorry if that offended you.

802 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:40:48am

re: #800 Mad Al-Jaffee

THey make the best cup o' pizza

803 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:40:58am

re: #800 Mad Al-Jaffee

"... or maybe you and he could make love, and you could think of me."

"I just want to be in there somewhere!"

804 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:41:03am

re: #795 Occasional Reader

And since we can always count on them having exactly the same level of technology, and never improving on it, we can go ahead and scrap missile defense. What a relief!

Hope! Change!

If we continue with our missile defense program we might hurt their feelings. It's more important that we try to get them to like us better.

/

805 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:41:04am

re: #800 Mad Al-Jaffee

The new phone book's here! The new phone book's here!

806 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:41:11am

re: #790 avanti

They have lousy aim, over Japan and aiming for Hawaii will be quite a trick.

What's more important, the fact that they have "lousy aim" or the fact that they are firing it toward ANY land, or any place for that matter?

Or does "lousy aim" surpass the fact that they are doing it at all?

807 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:41:44am

re: #805 Ford_Prefect

I'm somebody!

Johnson, Navin R... sounds like a typical bastard.

808 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:42:08am

re: #787 Kosh's Shadow

After it bit my ear, we gave it back to the pet store.

sigh.

I could go on about puppy's from pet stores.

And there is also the issue (I'm not including you in this - I don't know you) where the overall temperment of the breed has to be matched to the temperment of the owner. I can handle a Rottie or a Dobie, but no way would I try a Am. Staf. Terrier, aka Pit. Bull. They are superb animals but I don't have the self-discipline to give them the structure they need.

809 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:08am

re: #801 turn

I guess it is red, you know I can't even explain the humor in it for me. I guess the notiion that our wives can't handle even the slightest type of "abuse" but the dog is happy to get it or something. Sorry if that offended you.

I thought it was hilarious. Just emailed to hubby.

810 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:15am

re: #785 turn

Hi, Turn. Greetings from Edmonton, Alberta (I'm in the West)...CBC had a report about that cougar attack...(there have been 30 sightings over 10 days; one cougar killed a dog on a leash -- the cougar was shot; that little girl was extremely lucky to have survived the attack -- the family, btw is now moving to Mexico..)

811 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:16am

re: #777 wahabicorridor

Really? Wow, it must have been fun training them. We took Fritz to a german dog trainer and that guy trained him very well in something like six two hour lessons. I better switch to spy since the typing is delayed.

812 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:19am

re: #805 Ford_Prefect

The new phone book's here! The new phone book's here!

Phone book? What's that?
Oh yes, the book that has out-of-date numbers by the time it is published, to only be used when the Internet connection is down.

813 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:26am

Some news are still coming out, here's a sort of blog from the TIMES/London:
LIVE: Iran opposition steps up protests

From that link:
'1327 GMT Fars News reports that Faezeh and Mehdi, the pro-reformist daughter and son of former president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, have been barred from leaving Iran'

Quite good compilation ... RTWT!

814 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:38am

Unveil Women in Iran! It is high time to throw the veils out!
by Azar Majedi

[Link: richarddawkins.net...]

815 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:42am

re: #807 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't care about losing all the money. It's losing all the stuff.

816 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:42am

re: #790 avanti

"Nothing to see here, please pay no attention to the man launching rockets in your direction..."

817 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:43am

re: #805 Ford_Prefect

The new phone book's here! The new phone book's here!

Dear mom and dad, I found out what my special purpose it for.

818 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:43:53am

re: #801 turn

I guess it is red, you know I can't even explain the humor in it for me. I guess the notiion that our wives can't handle even the slightest type of "abuse" but the dog is happy to get it or something. Sorry if that offended you.

I was kidding; I got the joke, bud!
;-)

819 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:44:07am

re: #806 Walter L. Newton

What's more important, the fact that they have "lousy aim" or the fact that they are firing it toward ANY land, or any place for that matter?

Or does "lousy aim" surpass the fact that they are doing it at all?

I'd only be pleased with their "lousy aim" if their missile turned around and crashed into wherever Kim Jong Il was at the time.

820 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:45:02am

re: #812 Kosh's Shadow

Phone book? What's that?
Oh yes, the book that has out-of-date numbers by the time it is published, to only be used when the Internet connection is down.

They're also useful in police interrogations. Try whomping on a suspect with your Blackberry, and see how far that gets you!

821 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:45:24am

10:28 AM ET -- Cracks in the armor. "Iran clerics schedule pro-Mousavi rally." Published in the state-run Press TV no less.

Looks like they're going to position themselves to stay in power by joining the protesters. not good.

822 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:45:46am

re: #795 Occasional Reader

And since we can always count on them having exactly the same level of technology, and never improving on it, we can go ahead and scrap missile defense. What a relief!

Hope! Change!

Amazing that you got that out of my statement. I was just commenting on the natural growth of a report.

1. Norks to launch as missile from their east coast into the Pacific.
2. Hawaii is east of Korea.
3. The missile is headed in that general direction. (east)
4. The Norks are aiming at Hawaii and
now heading toward the statement:"Norks threaten nuke attack on Hawaii"

Not that much different from you expanding my statement that the missile is not aimed at Hawaii to me being weak on defense. Just want to keep the discussion intellectually honest.

823 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:46:47am

re: #810 J.S.

I didn't know that, are they moving because of the cougars up there? btw, have you ever been to Salt Spring? I love San Juan Island too.

824 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:46:49am

re: #820 Occasional Reader

They're also useful in police interrogations. Try whomping on a suspect with your Blackberry, and see how far that gets you!


Or for kids to sit on when they visit relatives who don't have a booster seat for the dining table. Of course, that only works if the relatives live in a large metropolitan area. Around here the phone book wouldn't give much of a lift.

825 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:46:59am

re: #806 Walter L. Newton

What's more important, the fact that they have "lousy aim" or the fact that they are firing it toward ANY land, or any place for that matter?

Or does "lousy aim" surpass the fact that they are doing it at all?

And that's the whole point. Aim doesn't matter - they're not trying to hit anything. They're trying to be provocative and start yet another round of shakedowns of the new Administration like those that have worked repeatedly and so well in the past.

826 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:47:12am

I'm waiting for Obama to finish some of his promises, the stuff he promised on the campaign trail, the stuff he promised to get elected, the stuff he promised was important to the country.

1) Still in Iraq
2) Still in Afghanistan
3) Gitmo still open
4) Budget more out of balance than ever. (Imagine if Obama had said on November 1st - I intend to quadruple the budget deficit next year and add $6 trillion of debt in four years.)
5) Oil and gas prices going back through the roof again.
6) Still don't see any bankers in jail.
7) No health plan. Lots of talk, but no actually detailed plan that would not bankrupt this country.
8) Still not asking nor telling.

Come on Obama, get busy.

827 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #813 yma o hyd

Also from that link....


1422 GMT Iran's Intelligence Ministry reveals that it has uncovered a failed terrorist plot to bomb Tehran last Friday, linked to Iran’s foreign enemies including Israel. “Members of one of the uncovered networks were planning to plant bombs on election day at various crowded Tehran spots, including Ershad and Al-Nabi mosques,” it said in a statement on IRIB state television

Heh.

828 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:47:29am

re: #817 NJDhockeyfan

Navin, it's your birthday, and it's time you knew. You're not our natural-born child.

I'm not? You mean I'm gonna STAY this color?

829 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:47:48am

re: #808 wahabicorridor

sigh.

I could go on about puppy's from pet stores.

And there is also the issue (I'm not including you in this - I don't know you) where the overall temperment of the breed has to be matched to the temperment of the owner. I can handle a Rottie or a Dobie, but no way would I try a Am. Staf. Terrier, aka Pit. Bull. They are superb animals but I don't have the self-discipline to give them the structure they need.

That was a purebred, but at the time, there were problems with the German Shepherds bred in the US.
We have seven dogs. My favorites are the three standard poodles. All the toys (and the "tiny") were from pet stores. Two from a chain that is now out of business, and they were definitely ground out of puppy mills. One is fine, but the other has some real emotional problems. However, he is lovable. The other two dogs were from local stores, and the toy is about as good as a toy can be - he's not high-strung at all. But he does steal food, rawhides, etc., and he's smart enough to do it when no one or no other dog is looking.
The tiny (5 lbs) is quite lovable, but not very smart. But then, with a brain smaller than a golf ball, what would you expect? He was actually a special order.

830 Athens Runaway  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:47:54am

re: #703 Ford_Prefect

Then there is the whole 'Babel fish proves the non existence of God' thing. Brilliant.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

831 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:48:01am

re: #818 redstateredneck

whew

832 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:48:28am

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

1353 GMT The Iranian embassy in Brussels accuses western governments of fomenting the unrest. “The foreign support for these trouble-makers and anarchists under the cover of supporting democracy and the voice of the Iranian people raises questions and cannot be justified,” it says in a statement
833 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:49:03am

re: #831 turn

whew

We're good!

834 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:49:41am

0:21 AM ET -- Just what Ahmadinejad wanted. Via Adam Blickstein.

Rep. Pence and Republican Leaders to Hold Press Conference Supporting Iranian Dissidents


Thursday, June 18th, 2009
1:45 p.m.
House Radio/TV Gallery, H-321, The Capitol

835 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:49:41am

re: #827 Killgore Trout

I wonder if the Iranian authorities are concerned about a military-style attack by some of the revolutionaries (bombs, rockets, whatever) and are setting it up to blame the Jews/Americans if it happens.

836 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:49:42am

re: #822 avanti

1. Norks to launch as missile from their east coast into the Pacific.
2. Hawaii is east of Korea.
3. The missile is headed in that general direction. (east)

Um, see, the thing is, that part you just made up. The report doesn't say that. It says "toward Hawaii". Might be true, might not be. But you're just adding in filler to support your position.

to me being weak on defense

Let's just say I found it surprising that your first reaction to a report about the Norks' expanding ICBM capability was a nonchalant, "they have lousy aim".

837 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:49:46am

Police and Protesters in Iran Hand in Hand!

838 MagnaniomousCoward  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:49:51am

Nazis support Ahmadinejad:

[Link: twitpic.com...] (From a conspiracy blog post saying that the Iranian twitterers are Mossad, poster says he'll tip off Alex Jones about it.)

[Link: twitpic.com...] (From nazi forum encouraging nazis to spam a support forum for iran.)

839 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:50:04am

re: #828 Mad Al-Jaffee

For one dollar I'll guess your weight, your height, or your sex.

840 jill e  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:50:36am

THREE questionable IG firings! Abuse of power isn't as easy as it looks.

841 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:00am

re: #835 Lincolntf

There were rumors on twitter that the mullahs were going to stage a fake terrorist attack on themselves and blame the US and Israel. Anything is possible.

842 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:06am

re: #811 turn

Wow, it must have been fun training them

It was one of the best summers ever! Part of what I did was to be the idiot in the bite suit, although I could only do that with females as the males were too big for me. I learned a very important lesson. For these dogs, they were trained as though it was a game - always make it fun for them.

For anyone truly interested in acquiring one of these magnificent beasts, look into the Monks of New Skete. There are several books about them on Amazon. They specialize in breeding and training shepards and if you really do want to acquire an American-bred dog, that's not a bad place to start.

843 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:19am

re: #834 Killgore Trout

Actually I think Ahmadenijad wanted compliance and silence from the US Gov't.
Obama certainly hasn't disappointed in that regard.

844 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:27am

re: #821 Killgore Trout

10:28 AM ET -- Cracks in the armor. "Iran clerics schedule pro-Mousavi rally." Published in the state-run Press TV no less.

Looks like they're going to position themselves to stay in power by joining the protesters. not good.

Ah - which clerics are these?

Interestingly, the son and daughter of Rafsanjani ahve been barred from leaving Iran - the daughter spoke out for Mousavi.
Apparently, Khatami, the former President, has also spoken out.

This looks like a rift in the group of ruling clerics, especially if one takes the statement of Grand Ayatollah Motazeri into account.

845 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:29am

re: #839 Ford_Prefect

First I get my name in the phone book and now I'm on your ass. You know, I'll bet more people see that than the phone book.

846 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:30am

Re: Dog breeds

Me, I'm a big fan of mutts. The all-around best dogs I've known have mostly been mutts.

Rescue dogs akbar!

847 Gus  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:51:59am

re: #826 Walter L. Newton

I'm waiting for Obama to finish some of his promises, the stuff he promised on the campaign trail, the stuff he promised to get elected, the stuff he promised was important to the country.

1) Still in Iraq
2) Still in Afghanistan
3) Gitmo still open
4) Budget more out of balance than ever. (Imagine if Obama had said on November 1st - I intend to quadruple the budget deficit next year and add $6 trillion of debt in four years.)
5) Oil and gas prices going back through the roof again.
6) Still don't see any bankers in jail.
7) No health plan. Lots of talk, but no actually detailed plan that would not bankrupt this country.
8) Still not asking nor telling.

Come on Obama, get busy.

9) Cure cancer.
10) Legalize marijiuana.
11) Reverse AGW.
12) Spread the wealth.
13) Have meeting with Dinnerjacket.
14) Quit smoking.

//

848 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:52:40am

re: #838 MagnaniomousCoward

The nazis mostly like the mullahs because they're anti-Israel and deny the Holocaust.
The Paulians oppose the revolution because they think it's a new world order plot.

849 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:53:02am

re: #825 SixDegrees

And that's the whole point. Aim doesn't matter - they're not trying to hit anything. They're trying to be provocative and start yet another round of shakedowns of the new Administration like those that have worked repeatedly and so well in the past.

Exactly, and if it's course comes within even 1000 miles of Hawaii, take the thing out from a Navy missile ship. They are trying to get out attention, and barter for aid.

850 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:53:13am

re: #827 Killgore Trout

Also from that link....

Heh.

Yeah - nothing like trying to re-unite the country behind the usual 'foreign enemy', especially Israel.

I somehow don't think this will wash any longer with the crowd of dissenters ...

851 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:53:16am

re: #841 Killgore Trout

There were rumors on twitter that the mullahs were going to stage a fake terrorist attack on themselves and blame the US and Israel. Anything is possible.

I'll say it again - good thing they don't have nukes yet.
I wouldn't put it past them to use a nuke on their own people, and then blame it on the Great or the Little Satan (US or Israel).
And that would give them the excuse to launch nukes of their own, causing more chaos and bringing the Mahdi sooner.

852 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:53:55am

re: #847 Gus 802

9) Cure cancer.
10) Legalize marijiuana.
11) Reverse AGW.
12) Spread the wealth.
13) Have meeting with Dinnerjacket.
14) Quit smoking.

//

You forgot lower the sea level.

853 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:54:06am

re: #822 avanti
I think I interpreted your statement as saying that since their aim was lousy, it didn't matter that they were aiming for Hawaii. I think it does matter, as it is obviously a provacative act, successful or not. You, however, may not have meant it that way, but that is the way it sounded.

854 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:54:26am

re: #844 yma o hyd

This looks like a rift in the group of ruling clerics, especially if one takes the statement of Grand Ayatollah Motazeri into account.


I'd much rather see thing go down without any support from the ruling clerics. They probably want to stay in power.

855 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:56:08am

re: #846 Occasional Reader

Rescue dogs akbar!

I know. But hubby said NO NYET NO FUCKING WAY

Lost that argument. Just as well. The Fat Beagle and we were made for one another.

856 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #846 Occasional Reader

Re: Dog breeds

Me, I'm a big fan of mutts. The all-around best dogs I've known have mostly been mutts.

Rescue dogs akbar!

Upding for the mutts!

(The bestest of which, of course, are those with bits from somewhere else, but mostly Border Collie ... like mine!)

857 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:56:30am

I see this morning that a certain jerkoff from a certain stalker blog is spanking his own in pride that he was able to lift the private thread and copy it for the enjoyment of the jerks on said stalker blog. I think he's got a sock somewhere in here.

858 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:57:06am

re: #836 Occasional Reader

Let's just say I found it surprising that your first reaction to a report about the Norks' expanding ICBM capability was a nonchalant, "they have lousy aim".

No, that was not the reason for my reaction. I reacted to the post that said it was aimed at Hawaii, which was not a accurate comment, that's all. If you are aiming at Hawaii you don't plot a path 1000's of miles to the south.
Most Lizard's seem to want the most accurate info available, so I fact checked the aimed at Hawaii comment.

859 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:57:36am

re: #854 Killgore Trout

I'd much rather see thing go down without any support from the ruling clerics. They probably want to stay in power.

Heh.
I somehow don't think there is any 'probably' in their wanting to stay in power!

860 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:57:44am

re: #854 Killgore Trout

I'd much rather see thing go down without any support from the ruling clerics. They probably want to stay in power.

There's no doubt they want to stay in power. The question is, are the people going to LET them stay in power? Ayatollah Khamenei already came out in favor of Dinnerjacket, remember.

861 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:57:50am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

I see this morning that a certain jerkoff from a certain stalker blog is spanking his own in pride that he was able to lift the private thread and copy it for the enjoyment of the jerks on said stalker blog. I think he's got a sock somewhere in here.

And I'm sure Stinky will darn that sock soon.

862 Gus  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:57:55am

re: #852 Kosh's Shadow

You forgot lower the sea level.

Oops. Forgot the water tricks. He can do that by raising his arms (palms up) and applying a fascial expression approaching a grimace.

//

863 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:58:17am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

oops. maybe you should tell Charles.

864 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:58:19am

re: #834 Killgore Trout

0:21 AM ET -- Just what Ahmadinejad wanted. Via Adam Blickstein.

Just to be clear, Killgore: Is your position that all levels of the U.S. government have to be 100% silent on what's happening in Iran?

And do you have any reaction to Obama's rather startling statement earlier this week indicating that Khameini was genuinely "concerned" about the "election irregularities"? Do you think Obama is doing the right thing by actually giving positive support to the idea that the mullahs are really democrats?

865 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:58:19am

re: #854 Killgore Trout

I'd much rather see thing go down without any support from the ruling clerics. They probably want to stay in power.

This is desperation on their part though. If it 'works' it may buy them some breathing space, but I don't think the people will be fobbed off so easily in the longer term. The writing is on the wall.

866 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:58:32am

re: #846 Occasional Reader

I've never had a dog that wasn't a mutt.

867 subsailor68  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:59:23am

re: #858 avanti

No, that was not the reason for my reaction. I reacted to the post that said it was aimed at Hawaii, which was not a accurate comment, that's all. If you are aiming at Hawaii you don't plot a path 1000's of miles to the south.
Most Lizard's seem to want the most accurate info available, so I fact checked the aimed at Hawaii comment.

Well, you do if you have a wicked slice, and need to compensate to still hit the fairway.

(Just thought I'd tie the NK missile launch and U.S. Open comments together.)

;-)

868 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:59:30am

re: #858 avanti

so I fact checked the aimed at Hawaii comment.

And your source for that is...?

869 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 7:59:32am

re: #862 Gus 802

Oops. Forgot the water tricks. He can do that by raising his arms (palms up) and applying a fascial expression approaching a grimace.

//

Obama thinks he can walk on water, but he's more likely to pass water in emergencies.

870 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00:10am

Speaking of the joy of having dogs, here's a CARTOON!

871 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00:11am

re: #842 wahabicorridor

The turnwife and I were serious about training Luke to be a search and rescue dog but she blew out her knee so we had to shelve the idea. Even though Luke is three my understanding is it is still doable but I must confess I've kind of lost the desire to do it.

872 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00:13am

re: #853 VioletTiger

I think I interpreted your statement as saying that since their aim was lousy, it didn't matter that they were aiming for Hawaii. I think it does matter, as it is obviously a provacative act, successful or not. You, however, may not have meant it that way, but that is the way it sounded.

Hell no, if they actually launching anywhere near Hawaii, I'd want to know about it, that's why the post that said they were aiming at Hawaii got my attention as a very profound escalation that would have to be defended against.

873 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00:26am

re: #823 turn

The CBC didn't say whether the cougar attack was the reason for their decision to move to Mexico --- they probably made the decision to move before the cougar attack, and the cougar just cemented/confirmed it ( as in "yeah, we're getting out of here!") I haven't been to Salt Spring Island (yet at one time I lived on an island in British Ciolumbia -- and we always took a ferry to Comox)...

874 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00:37am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

I see this morning that a certain jerkoff from a certain stalker blog is spanking his own in pride that he was able to lift the private thread and copy it for the enjoyment of the jerks on said stalker blog. I think he's got a sock somewhere in here.

Actually, somebody over there in the Village of the Banned claimed to have TWO socks, back when we have the first closed thread. This might, in fact, make it easier to locate said socks.

875 danshelb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00:39am

re: #848 Killgore Trout


The Paulians oppose the revolution because they think it's a new world order plot.


That's so sad - to go through life viewing everything from the prism of "the Illuminati (or whoever) are pulling the strings".

876 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:02:09am

re: #867 subsailor68

Well, you do if you have a wicked slice, and need to compensate to still hit the fairway.

(Just thought I'd tie the NK missile launch and U.S. Open comments together.)

;-)

It's actually a good thing that ballistic missiles can not do a wicked slice, thus the name "ballistic".

877 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:02:09am

re: #854 Killgore Trout

We might have to look at it kind of like the "NK Generals will prevent Kim from going ballistic" thing. Somebody who is already in a position of some power will have to step in if the one-in-a-million chance of this becoming a real revolution comes through.
Obviously, no pro-freedom clerics get elevated to the GC, just as no pro-sanity Generals exist in NK, but there's always the chance that a cleric/politician will see an opportunity to make a power grab by embracing the pro-freedom movement.

878 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:02:14am

re: #875 danshelb

That's so sad - to go through life viewing everything from the prism of "the Illuminati (or whoever) are pulling the strings".

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who let themselves get this deluded. Make no mistake: People don't have to be that stupid. They just choose to be intellectually lazy, and we see the end result.

879 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:02:16am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

I see this morning that a certain jerkoff from a certain stalker blog is spanking his own in pride that he was able to lift the private thread and copy it for the enjoyment of the jerks on said stalker blog. I think he's got a sock somewhere in here.

How seventh grade!

880 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:02:48am

re: #874 VioletTiger

Actually, somebody over there in the Village of the Banned claimed to have TWO socks, back when we have the first closed thread. This might, in fact, make it easier to locate said socks.

That would be Rodan. He claimed to have at least two of them here. This one is gclaghorn.

881 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:02:57am

re: #873 J.S.

"Cougar Attack" sounds like a new reality show.

882 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:03:00am

Fake Iran election Tweeters

The tweeters shown below are possible fakes accounts and may have connections to the Iranian Security apparatus. Do not re-tweet anything from these accounts. You can block them using the link attached below: Block Now Obvious Disinfo

...This post will be updated as fake accounts are received. For those questioning the information here, we place accounts here that a) post multiple comments of the same sort (i.e. Spam) and b) accounts that are obviosuly trying to entrap twitter users who are tweeting from Iran or c) those who obviously are trying to spread mis-information. If we arent 100% sure we will put in it the “To watch” or “Suspected” list.

883 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:03:18am

re: #871 turn

It's an enormous amount of work, and even if Luke made it thru the course, search and rescue can involve things like earthquake rubble rescue - I wouldn't do that to a dog with a busted knee. Even the healthiest dogs can get exhausted.

That's one reason the military trains their dogs in Texas. It's hot and they have to show they have the stamina.

884 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:03:25am

Good morning, dear friends!

885 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:03:55am

re: #875 danshelb

But Paulians got 2% of the vote! They're everywhere! Run away, run away....

886 doppelganglander  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:04:11am

re: #856 yma o hyd

Upding for the mutts!

(The bestest of which, of course, are those with bits from somewhere else, but mostly Border Collie ... like mine!)

Mine too! She's smart, sweet, protective, and all around wonderful. Just a pity she sheds so much.

887 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:04:14am

Here's another pretty good live blog, even though its the Grauniad's ...:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

888 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:04:28am

re: #872 avanti

Hell no, if they actually launching anywhere near Hawaii, I'd want to know about it, that's why the post that said they were aiming at Hawaii got my attention as a very profound escalation that would have to be defended against.


Blame the reporter (Associated Press); I've seen two articles both with headlines that the missile is being aimed at Hawaii; both are from the AP:

Report: NKorea may fire missile toward Hawaii
'N. Korea may fire missile at Hawaii'

889 subsailor68  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:04:49am

re: #876 avanti

It's actually a good thing that ballistic missiles can not do a wicked slice, thus the name "ballistic".

Oh yeah? Then how do you explain Kim Jung Il hiring Fu Zee Zel Er?

:-)

890 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:04:58am

re: #884 Irish Rose

Morning Rose.

891 jill e  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:05:11am
892 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:05:17am

gotta hop lizards. Have a great day!

893 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:05:23am

re: #874 VioletTiger

Actually, somebody over there in the Village of the Banned claimed to have TWO socks, back when we have the first closed thread. This might, in fact, make it easier to locate said socks.

Soon, those socks will get hung out to dry.

894 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:05:27am

re: #884 Irish Rose

Good morning, dear friends!

Morning Rose.

895 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:05:34am

re: #882 NJDhockeyfan

Fake Iran election Tweeters

This, after the dog posts. We've gone from discussing the woofers, to the Tweeters.

896 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:06:02am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

Morning yoop, I was wondering if that would happen. There was nothing posted that I read that would reflect badly on Charles, it was a darn funny thread.

897 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:06:22am

re: #879 MandyManners

How seventh grade!

Of course he has a sock.
And like a lot of the haters over at 2, he's to stupid to realize that he's been played like a fiddle.

898 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:06:23am

re: #886 doppelganglander

Mine too! She's smart, sweet, protective, and all around wonderful. Just a pity she sheds so much.

Aww - if shedding was the only problem ...1

Madame - and before he died, Big Dog, are and were simply too clever by half!

Drives me mad, sometimes ...

899 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:07:19am

re: #893 Kosh's Shadow

Soon, those socks will get hung out to dry.

Next he will be bragging, saying "look at argyle.

900 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:08:03am

re: #896 turn

Morning yoop, I was wondering if that would happen. There was nothing posted that I read that would reflect badly on Charles, it was a darn funny thread.

Yeah, it was pretty funny. The main targets of it were the nuts over there.

901 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:08:07am
902 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:08:19am

re: #873 J.S.

If you go try the fish and chips in Vesuvius, very good. In fact I think the best we've ever had.

903 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:08:40am

re: #900 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, it was pretty funny. The main targets of it were the nuts over there.

So we're laughing at them, laughing at us, laughing at them?

/boggle

904 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:09:06am

Four slovenian "priests" singing a song:

The comments are classic youtube material.

905 vxbush  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:09:13am

Greetings, my scaly friends. Too much fun by half today. I have four machines I have to work on. At once. So how well do humans work in parallel?

906 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #893 Kosh's Shadow

Soon, those socks will get hung out to dry.

One would hope. Gotta find them first.

BTW, it makes me laugh to think you have a 5 lb dog, as I have a 20 lb. cat!

907 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #898 yma o hyd

Aww - if shedding was the only problem ...1

Madame - and before he died, Big Dog, are and were simply too clever by half!

Drives me mad, sometimes ...

What, does she surreptitiously switch your keyboard from QWERTY to Dvorak? Stuff like that?

/

908 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:09:31am

Okay, here's a dumb question. I know what a "sock puppet" is, but how do they exist? If Charles bans someone, doesn't he ban their computer from accessing the site no matter what name/password they use? Do people actually use different/new computers to be a "sock"?

909 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #908 Lincolntf

Okay, here's a dumb question. I know what a "sock puppet" is, but how do they exist? If Charles bans someone, doesn't he ban their computer from accessing the site no matter what name/password they use? Do people actually use different/new computers to be a "sock"?

As far as I know, Charles only very rarely enacts computer-level bans. He mostly just bans usernames unless a person has a proven track record of sock puppetry.

910 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:10:14am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

I see this morning that a certain jerkoff from a certain stalker blog is spanking his own in pride that he was able to lift the private thread and copy it for the enjoyment of the jerks on said stalker blog. I think he's got a sock somewhere in here.

What a waste of time. It was a fast moving, long and fairly dull thread of miscellaneous chit chat. I don't know why they're still obsessed with reading the comments here.

911 LGoPs  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:10:50am

I heard a snippet of a conversation this morning on the radio recording an exchange between Barbara Boxer, CA Senator and a Brigadier General providing testimony before a Senate Committee.
The General addressed her as Ma'am in his response to her and she interrupted him and dressed him down for referring to her that way. She said she wanted to be addressed as Senator and that she had worked hard to earn that title.
The General had been addressing the male senators as sir during the same testimony.
I thought that this was very petty on Boxer's part and showed a smallness of character.
Additionally, my personal experience in the military was that if you addressed a superior officer by the appellation 'sir' or 'ma'am' you were showing respect. If you addressed them solely by their rank, as in, Colonel or General, that was a tacit show of lack of respect. You were forced to acknowledge and respect the rank but not the person wearing it.
Barbara Boxer deserves being addressed as Senator....../.

912 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:10:51am

re: #909 thedopefishlives

Thanks. One more mystery solved.

913 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:10:56am

re: #905 vxbush

Greetings, my scaly friends. Too much fun by half today. I have four machines I have to work on. At once. So how well do humans work in parallel?

Batch Job.

I'm not a professional server admin, but I did spend the night -- oh, forget it, I hate those commercials.

914 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:11:31am

re: #891 jill e

The Kid at the State Department Who Figured Out the Iranians Should Be Allowed to Keep Tweeting

A Condi Rice appointee...

From your link:

According to the New York Times, it was Jared Cohen, a member of the Policy Planning Staff, who contacted Twitter on Monday

IT'S DA JUICE! AIIIIEEEEE!

915 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:11:41am

re: #883 wahabicorridor

Oh, it was the turnwife who blew her knee out, Luke could handle it - he's in excellent condition. When I flew to China a couple of years ago I sat next to a search and rescue dog trainer. She told me some amazing stories about those dogs. She had a dog that could track a person on asphalt three days later.

916 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:11:45am

re: #908 Lincolntf

I am pretty sure he bans by ip. When they register a name from the same pc, he can tell, and denies it.

917 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:12:02am

re: #906 VioletTiger

One would hope. Gotta find them first.

BTW, it makes me laugh to think you have a 5 lb dog, as I have a 20 lb. cat!

Any dog under 20 pounds is nothing more than a glorified cat. :)

/or an accessory to some people.

918 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:12:13am

re: #911 LGoPs

I prefer 'Former Senator' myself.

919 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:12:36am

re: #906 VioletTiger

One would hope. Gotta find them first.

BTW, it makes me laugh to think you have a 5 lb dog, as I have a 20 lb. cat!

Our dogs are (in lbs) 5, 6, 9, 13, 53, 57, 63
The last one is huge for a standard poodle.

920 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:12:40am

re: #910 Killgore Trout

What a waste of time. It was a fast moving, long and fairly dull thread of miscellaneous chit chat. I don't know why they're still obsessed with reading the comments here.

That is why we're here, and they've been banned. They're obsessive by nature. My guess is that they think they've pulled a fast one, and thus, they're dancing around like a bunch of howler monkeys.

921 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:12:42am

re: #906 VioletTiger

Gotta find them find them and play them first.

Fixed.

922 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:13:01am

re: #906 VioletTiger

One would hope. Gotta find them first.

BTW, it makes me laugh to think you have a 5 lb dog, as I have a 20 lb. cat!

I have both but, my cat weighs 22 pounds.

923 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:13:02am

re: #908 Lincolntf

Okay, here's a dumb question. I know what a "sock puppet" is, but how do they exist? If Charles bans someone, doesn't he ban their computer from accessing the site no matter what name/password they use? Do people actually use different/new computers to be a "sock"?

They actually do. Also, they may try using a program that hides their real IP, but I think there are ways of 'seeing through' that.

924 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:13:10am

re: #916 rightside

I am pretty sure he bans by ip. When they register a name from the same pc, he can tell, and denies it.

But the fact that sock puppet accounts are allowed to access the site speaks otherwise, unless the people involved in said puppetry really ARE such miserable sods that they actually go onto a work computer or something similar for the sole purpose of gaming Charles's system. In which case they get caught and re-banned anyway.

925 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:13:23am

re: #907 Occasional Reader

What, does she surreptitiously switch your keyboard from QWERTY to Dvorak? Stuff like that?

/

Teeheehee!

I doubt her paws would be up to that - but if she could, she would!

Whatever nefarious thing she decides to do - afterwards she has this butter-wouldn't-melt look which just makes me laugh!
(I bet she practices in front of the mirror when I'm away ...)

926 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:13:50am

re: #826 Walter L. Newton

I'm waiting for Obama to finish some of his promises, the stuff he promised on the campaign trail, the stuff he promised to get elected, the stuff he promised was important to the country.

1) Still in Iraq
2) Still in Afghanistan
3) Gitmo still open
4) Budget more out of balance than ever. (Imagine if Obama had said on November 1st - I intend to quadruple the budget deficit next year and add $6 trillion of debt in four years.)
5) Oil and gas prices going back through the roof again.
6) Still don't see any bankers in jail.
7) No health plan. Lots of talk, but no actually detailed plan that would not bankrupt this country.
8) Still not asking nor telling.

Come on Obama, get busy.

I'd prefer he not succeed on all those promises. Even if that mean I hope he fails.

927 vxbush  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:14:15am

re: #913 thedopefishlives

Batch Job.

I'm not a professional server admin, but I did spend the night -- oh, forget it, I hate those commercials.

No can do. Each system is having different work done. Lucky me.

928 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:14:22am

re: #922 MandyManners

I have both but, my cat weighs 22 pounds.

Sweet jebus. That could feed Pyonyang for a week!

929 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:14:33am

Realwest...are you still around? I tried emailing you but for some reason it is not working. Probably on my end, got a new motherboard and hard drive this week and Outlook is not behaving.

930 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:14:42am

re: #927 vxbush

No can do. Each system is having different work done. Lucky me.

Urgh. Brain context switching not so fun.

931 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:15:24am

Later.

932 tradewind  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:15:32am

Viewed through the prism of events in Iran, this is pretty interesting. Lengthy, though, so for when you have time...
[Link: www.meforum.org...]

933 Bloodnok  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:15:41am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper

I see this morning that a certain jerkoff from a certain stalker blog is spanking his own in pride that he was able to lift the private thread and copy it for the enjoyment of the jerks on said stalker blog. I think he's got a sock somewhere in here.

Interesting that the screen shot was taken a few minutes after a poster appeared that was registered last year, but never posted until yesterday. I'm not accusing, I'm just sayin' it's a coincidence is all.

934 rightside  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:15:46am

re: #924 thedopefishlives

I registered from work which has a proxy, through NMCI, but I access from home as well. People could easily go to another pc, register under a new name, but eventually, they explode and reveal their secret identities! (Usually during a evolution thread)

935 vxbush  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:15:48am

re: #930 thedopefishlives

Urgh. Brain context switching not so fun.

Nope. I think I will need a caffeine enhancement tool.

936 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:16:19am

re: #915 turn

Oh, it was the turnwife who blew her knee out, Luke could handle it - he's in excellent condition. When I flew to China a couple of years ago I sat next to a search and rescue dog trainer. She told me some amazing stories about those dogs. She had a dog that could track a person on asphalt three days later.

It blows my mind trying to comprehend their sense of smell. I once read that to us, vegetable soup smells like vegetable soup. To a dog, vegetable soup smells like each vegetable, whatever meat stock was used, each individual spice, etc.

937 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:16:48am

re: #920 Honorary Yooper

My guess is that they think they've pulled a fast one, and thus, they're dancing around like a bunch of howler monkeys.

Jokes on them.

938 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:16:51am

re: #935 vxbush

Nope. I think I will need a caffeine enhancement tool.

What's your poison of choice? I'm a part-time Mountain Dew addict. Comes in handy on those 5:00 mornings, like today.

939 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:16:53am

re: #929 Fluffy Bunny

*puts on Tech hat* All the other email working presumably?

940 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:18:25am
941 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:18:25am

re: #936 redstateredneck

It blows my mind trying to comprehend their sense of smell. I once read that to us, vegetable soup smells like vegetable soup. To a dog, vegetable soup smells like each vegetable, whatever meat stock was used, each individual spice, etc.

And then they use this great power of smell to detect the nuances of the subtle differences in each others' poop.

942 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:18:39am

re: #911 LGoPs

The beotch probably insists that her husband call her Senator. spit

943 Bloodnok  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #933 Bloodnok

Interesting that the screen shot was taken a few minutes after a poster appeared that was registered last year, but never posted until yesterday. I'm not accusing, I'm just sayin' it's a coincidence is all.

Actually it wasn't a few minutes. It was at least an hour. Carry on.

944 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:03am

re: #939 Jewels (AKA Julian)

{Jewels} Yes, everything else works just fine. And I typed the code in reverse order (the second time).

945 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:10am

re: #847 Gus 802

9) Cure cancer.
10) Legalize marijiuana.
11) Reverse AGW.
12) Spread the wealth.
13) Have meeting with Dinnerjacket.
14) Quit smoking.

//

You all are forgetting the planet healing and the seas to stop rising.

946 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:34am

re: #836 Occasional Reader

At least as of right now they are borderline for messing with july 4th celebrations. takes about 10-15 days for them to set up the larger rockets with the range to reach Hawaii. Allthought trains leaving missile storage areas have arrived at 2 seperate launch stations one in far NE of North Korea one in the NW area of the Country.

947 vxbush  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:35am

re: #938 thedopefishlives

What's your poison of choice? I'm a part-time Mountain Dew addict. Comes in handy on those 5:00 mornings, like today.

I used to drink Mt. Dew as a kid, but nowadays it just doesn't taste that good to me. I prefer hot tea or Coca-Cola, leaded and sugared.

948 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:37am

re: #940 Killgore Trout

Persian Beauty

She looks like she has a great personality.

949 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:38am

I've become so sensitive to caffeine that I can't sleep at night if I consume it anytime after 12 noon.

Serious.

950 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:19:57am

re: #922 MandyManners

I have both but, my cat weighs 22 pounds.

Wow. Is kitteh fat or just big? Pumpernickel is a bit of both.

951 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:20:13am

re: #933 Bloodnok

Interesting that the screen shot was taken a few minutes after a poster appeared that was registered last year, but never posted until yesterday. I'm not accusing, I'm just sayin' it's a coincidence is all.

It is very interesting. I sent the link to Charles so he can decide how best to handle it.

952 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:20:13am

Tweet from 'Persiankiwi':

'MOUSAVI asks GOOGLE to change logo to GREEN for 1 day - #Iranelection - to give hope to all Iran - RT RT RT'

Will Google do it?

Fat chance, methinks ...

953 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:20:14am

re: #940 Killgore Trout

Persian Beauty

Sha la la la la
la la de da de da
My brown eyed girl.

954 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:21:25am

re: #947 vxbush

I used to drink Mt. Dew as a kid, but nowadays it just doesn't taste that good to me. I prefer hot tea or Coca-Cola, leaded and sugared.

Yeah, I'm still young and I can get away with it. I don't live in my parents' basement, though.

955 onslow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:21:56am
956 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:22:06am

re: #952 yma o hyd

Google already does whatever the Chinese dictators ask them to do. I wonder if they'll show their true colors and put up a pro-mullah logo.

957 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:22:09am

re: #944 Fluffy Bunny

hmmm... if it's just to his specific email address in outlook, then you might have a corrupted address. Might need to remove him from your outlook book and recreate his profile

958 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:22:55am

re: #940 Killgore Trout

Persian Beauty

Be still thy heart

/heh ... AND mine!

959 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:22:59am

re: #954 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I'm still young and I can get away with it. I don't live in my parents' basement, though.

Moved to the attic, huh?

960 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:23:20am
961 subsailor68  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:23:25am

re: #954 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I'm still young and I can get away with it. I don't live in my parents' basement, though.

I'm such a dweeb that I live in my own basement. Sigh.

962 debutaunt  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:23:50am

re: #949 Irish Rose

I've become so sensitive to caffeine that I can't sleep at night if I consume it anytime after 12 noon.

Serious.

MSG also acts that way with me. Maddening.

963 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:02am

Overheard at a Senate hearing yesterday:

"Could you say 'senator' instead of 'ma'am?' It's just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title. I'd appreciate it."

--Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) to Brigadier General Michael Walsh during Senate hearing Tuesday, when he the general repeatedly said, "Yes, ma'am," and "No, ma'am," when answering Boxer's questions at hearing she chaired on New Orleans' levee system.


What a cock sucker. Well maybe I shouldn't say that, I doubt she ever earned that moniker.

964 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:09am

re: #957 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Thanks Jewels...I will try that now. I am convinced glitches only occur when you are running late. Many thanks!

965 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:45am

re: #960 Mad Al-Jaffee

More than 100 kids sue over parents’ deportations

And they're suing the ONE!

Are we paying for their lawyers?

966 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:47am

re: #940 Killgore Trout

Persian Beauty

Hijab not doin' its job.

967 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:52am

re: #959 Ford_Prefect

Moved to the attic, huh?

Ironically enough, the "guest room" where I stay when I visit my folks is, in fact, also the room you go through to get to the attic.

968 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:53am

re: #936 redstateredneck

It blows my mind trying to comprehend their sense of smell. I once read that to us, vegetable soup smells like vegetable soup. To a dog, vegetable soup smells like each vegetable, whatever meat stock was used, each individual spice, etc.

Really? I bet that is true, I'll remember that. Another amazing thing she told me was that when a rescue dog meets at right angles to the path of the person they are tracking they can tell chich direction they were walking.

969 aggieann  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:24:55am

re: #941 Kosh's Shadow

And then they use this great power of smell to detect the nuances of the subtle differences in each others' poop.

I once read that by sniffing poop, a dog can tell a lot about the pooper: age, general health, diet, etc. I've always wondered how in the world it's possible that we can determine that.

970 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:25:43am

re: #962 debutaunt

I miss MSG. The Chinese food selection where I live is absolutely horrid. I only get to eat Chinese when I travel. Mmmmm...sweet and sour pork....crab rangoon...beef teriyaki....I miss them all so much.

971 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:25:44am

re: #910 Killgore Trout

What a waste of time. It was a fast moving, long and fairly dull thread of miscellaneous chit chat. I don't know why they're still obsessed with reading the comments here.

There was nothing on the spy thread except a few fun comments about a Banned One's lack of, or loss of his penis. Just some silly fun. 2.0's obsession will wane, just as folks here continue to ignore them more and more. Their comment counts are low, and registered user's count lower. They can (mostly) only grow by recruiting LGF rejects.

972 debutaunt  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:25:45am

re: #958 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Be still thy heart

/heh ... AND mine!

That was your heart?

973 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:25:57am

re: #941 Kosh's Shadow

And then they use this great power of smell to detect the nuances of the subtle differences in each others' poop.

No two dog butts smell the same.

I remember when I was a kid asking my mother why dogs smelled each others behinds (butt was a dirty word back then). She went into some long story about back in the olden days the dogs took their butts off when they entered a house like you would take your hat off and hang them all on a hook. One of the dogs looked out the window and yelled, "CAT!" and all the dogs grabbed a butt and ran out the door. They were just trying to find their own butt. My mother had quite an imagination, apparently.
:-)

974 ihateronpaul  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:26:29am

re: #968 turn

Really? I bet that is true, I'll remember that. Another amazing thing she told me was that when a rescue dog meets at right angles to the path of the person they are tracking they can tell chich direction they were walking.

Dogs smell in 3-D. That is why they are able to smell drugs when humans cannot due to them being surrounded by other aromas.

975 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:26:34am

re: #949 Irish Rose

Morning Rose, chocolate does that to me.

976 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:27:06am

re: #873 J.S.
If they moved to mexico to escape Mountain lions/cougars/puma depending on your region they made a big mistake. Mexico not only still has Cougars but also has Jaguars which are the largest north american cat and the 3rd largest species of cats behind tigers(1st) and lions(2nd). Jaguars from mexico are making a come back in southern Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona all though these are still only concidered transients as no females have been spotted only males and they aren't appearing to remain in the same areas they have been spotted, which indicates they are likely younger males seeking a new territory but won't stay unless they find females with nearby territories.

977 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:27:10am

Hey y'all - I'm back - just hadda put out a few fires here. Hopefully the smoke is not a symbol of some still burning ashes!

978 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:27:28am

re: #971 unrealizedviewpoint

There was nothing on the spy thread except a few fun comments about a Banned One's lack of, or loss of his penis. Just some silly fun. 2.0's obsession will wane, just as folks here continue to ignore them more and more. Their comment counts are low, and registered user's count lower. They can (mostly) only grow by recruiting LGF rejects.

I'm not so sure about their obsession waning. People that are this ... I don't even know the word to describe it, but anyway, they don't give up that easily. To be perfectly frank, it kinda reminds me of my ex-girlfriend.

979 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:27:42am

re: #888 Kosh's Shadow

Blame the reporter (Associated Press); I've seen two articles both with headlines that the missile is being aimed at Hawaii; both are from the AP:

Report: NKorea may fire missile toward Hawaii

Good point, the press is really twisting the headline because in there own write up, they say :

While the newspaper speculated the Taepodong-2 could fly over Japan and toward Hawaii, it said the missile would not be able to hit Hawaii's main islands, which are about 4,500 miles (7,200 kilometers) from the Korean peninsula. (Over Japan is not aimed at Hawaii)
'N. Korea may fire missile at Hawaii'

980 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:04am

re: #928 Occasional Reader

Sweet jebus. That could feed Pyonyang for a week!

Come and get it!

981 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:10am

re: #947 vxbush

I used to drink Mt. Dew as a kid, but nowadays it just doesn't taste that good to me. I prefer hot tea or Coca-Cola, leaded and sugared.

When I was pregnant with my younger daughter they did a lot of fetal monitoring at my regular check ups (guess cause I was 36 and that was kinda old back then). Anyway, to get the kid moving around, they'd bring me a regular coke. Bam! Baby activity!

982 Kragar  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:18am

re: #966 wrenchwench

Hijab not doin' its job.

You can see her hair! The harlot!

/

983 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:25am

re: #977 realwest

Hey y'all - I'm back - just hadda put out a few fires here. Hopefully the smoke is not a symbol of some still burning ashes!

Welcome back Real. how are you today?

984 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:35am

re: #968 turn

Turn, we went through water resue training with the Newfs and enjoyed it almost as much as the pups. Bailey was a superstar, with great potential but Tahoe just liked swimming. We never did put the training to use but it was fun and we met some great people and their dogs.

985 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:41am

re: #982 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You can see her hair! The harlot!

/

Mmm, sweet Zionist hair rays. *basks*

986 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:45am

re: #973 redstateredneck

I almost lost my tea on that one.

987 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:28:56am

re: #973 redstateredneck

Now that's a cute story. Going to favourite it and remember it for little kids.

988 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:29:16am

re: #950 VioletTiger

Wow. Is kitteh fat or just big? Pumpernickel is a bit of both.

Very big.

989 avanti  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:29:51am

BTW Lizards, have fun for a day or so without a resident leftie. I'm heading out the door to the casino, take care.

990 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:01am

re: #973 redstateredneck

No two dog butts smell the same.

I remember when I was a kid asking my mother why dogs smelled each others behinds (butt was a dirty word back then). She went into some long story about back in the olden days the dogs took their butts off when they entered a house like you would take your hat off and hang them all on a hook. One of the dogs looked out the window and yelled, "CAT!" and all the dogs grabbed a butt and ran out the door. They were just trying to find their own butt. My mother had quite an imagination, apparently.
:-)

Great story.

Dogs have scent glands near their behinds, and each has its own scent. They sniff there to identify each other. It reminds me of a comic strip I saw years ago; it was an "obedience school reunion" where all the dogs had nametags - on their behinds.

BTW, those glands can get blocked, and the dog needs to go to the vet to have them squeezed out. It is a quick job; one of ours has the problem. You can tell when he needs it because he licks the glands and gets really bad dog breath. And this is a dog who loves to lick people.

991 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:01am

re: #972 debutaunt

That was your heart?

heh ... candidly, I was about to respond with a "*whack*", but decided that could (and undoubtedly WOULD) be used against me.

Therefore, I shall simply say ... it certainly wasn't what you were thinking

:D

992 aggieann  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:15am

re: #981 redstateredneck

When I was pregnant with my younger daughter they did a lot of fetal monitoring at my regular check ups (guess cause I was 36 and that was kinda old back then). Anyway, to get the kid moving around, they'd bring me a regular coke. Bam! Baby activity!

I've never been a fan of soft drinks, but gave them up entirely after reading this:
[Link: articles.mercola.com...]

993 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:19am

re: #983 Ford_Prefect
Hi Ford! I'm ok I guess - just some problems have arisen because of the Medicare Gap or "donut" - anyway, how are you doing today?

994 Kragar  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:29am

re: #985 thedopefishlives

Mmm, sweet Zionist hair rays. *basks*

AVERT YOUR GAZE!

995 VioletTiger  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:38am

I should go and do some work today.

BBL

996 debutaunt  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:45am

re: #970 Lincolntf

I miss MSG. The Chinese food selection where I live is absolutely horrid. I only get to eat Chinese when I travel. Mmmmm...sweet and sour pork....crab rangoon...beef teriyaki....I miss them all so much.

For me, it's a lunch proposition, so I can sleep at night.

997 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:58am

A whole shitload of referrals on my blog this morning from the 2.0 thread containing the screenshot.... thanks for the hits, haters!

A hit from a friend or foe, it's all the same to Google and Yahoo.

998 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:30:58am

re: #977 realwest

Ah, just the man I was looking for! {Realwest} I am trying to email you without success. I will try Jewels solution and try again.

999 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:31:15am

re: #989 avanti

BTW Lizards, have fun for a day or so without a resident leftie. I'm heading out the door to the casino, take care.

Have fun spreading your wealth!

1000 vxbush  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:31:17am

Oh, man. Why do I let users take work computers home? I just got a laptop in where it looks like someone stepped on the monitor. It still works and runs, but the screen is covered with scratches and dead pixels.

1001 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:31:33am

re: #987 BlueCanuck

Now that's a cute story. Going to favourite it and remember it for little kids.

They won't buy it. I didn't.

1002 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:32:08am

B Boxer being a bitch. Now that title I am sure she has earned. Anyone if remotely familiar with the Military knows " ma am" Is proforma and meant to be polite.

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

What a petty ass.

1003 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:32:20am

re: #998 Fluffy Bunny
Uh, Jewel's solution? Y'all just have to use safemail - hit my nic in blue, it'll take you to LGF Safe mail and instruct you as to what to do once there!

1004 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:32:47am

re: #990 Kosh's Shadow

Great story.

Dogs have scent glands near their behinds, and each has its own scent. They sniff there to identify each other. It reminds me of a comic strip I saw years ago; it was an "obedience school reunion" where all the dogs had nametags - on their behinds.

BTW, those glands can get blocked, and the dog needs to go to the vet to have them squeezed out. It is a quick job; one of ours has the problem. You can tell when he needs it because he licks the glands and gets really bad dog breath. And this is a dog who loves to lick people.

I've got dachshunds. I know all about anal glands. They can release them when they're upset. Pretty nasty stuff.

1005 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:32:53am

re: #1000 vxbush

Oh, man. Why do I let users take work computers home? I just got a laptop in where it looks like someone stepped on the monitor. It still works and runs, but the screen is covered with scratches and dead pixels.

Are you nuts?

1006 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:32:56am

re: #996 debutaunt

Now that the topic has been broached I'm going to have to go try (for the umpteenth time) to find a decent Chinese place around here. I think there are still two relatively local places that I haven't bothered to give a chance.

1007 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:33:04am

re: #980 MandyManners

Come and get it!

Don't let your cant near this Chinese restaurant:

1008 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:33:20am

re: #992 aggieann

I tend to find most "Natural Health" news stories to be grossly exaggerated and fear mongering. Did you see what one of the danger ingredients was in that article? TAP WATER!

1009 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:33:51am

re: #1003 realwest

Did it...twice, failed...twice. Problem on my end. : )

1010 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:33:55am

re: #974 ihateronpaul

Dogs smell in 3-D. That is why they are able to smell drugs when humans cannot due to them being surrounded by other aromas.

When they get off track each breed has a unique method of getting back on, some will circle in wider and wider circles and others will haphazardly set off in different directions and return. When they find sombody dead it takes an emotional toll on them, she would intentionally take them out the next day on a staged search that would have a happy ending.

1011 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:33:56am

re: #993 realwest

Hi Ford! I'm ok I guess - just some problems have arisen because of the Medicare Gap or "donut" - anyway, how are you doing today?

I am well, apart from the miserable weather. It is always nice to be able to hang out with all of these great people here at lgf.

1012 Kragar  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:33:58am

re: #1002 Nevergiveup

B Boxer being a bitch. Now that title I am sure she has earned. Anyone if remotely familiar with the Military knows " ma am" Is proforma and meant to be polite.

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

What a petty ass.

Wait for her to say Sir or Mister and correct her saying the title is Brigadier General.

1013 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:34:34am
1014 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:34:42am

re: #992 aggieann

I cut down on soda years ago - maybe eight years ago. I switched to seltzer and I don't even like the taste of most sodas now - it's all too sweet. Seltzer has no calories, sugar, artificial flavors, colors or sodium, and it's much cheaper than soda.

1015 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:34:45am

re: #994 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

AVERT YOUR GAZE!

I can't.....She's so beautiful.....

1016 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:34:48am

re: #1007 Kosh's Shadow

Don't let your cant near this Chinese restaurant:

[Video]

CAT! PIMF.

1017 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:35:12am

re: #1012 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Wait for her to say Sir or Mister and correct her saying the title is Brigadier General.

That's Brigadier General SIR!

1018 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:35:15am

re: #992 aggieann

I've never been a fan of soft drinks, but gave them up entirely after reading this:
[Link: articles.mercola.com...]

I'm not much of a fan, either. I guess because when I was growing up the only soda my mom kept in the house was 7-Up and that was for my dad's highballs and OFF LIMITS to kids. We had Kool-aid or Fizzies.

1020 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:35:33am

re: #1002 Nevergiveup
She are that! BTW, isn't Boxer from California? What are she and Pelosi gonna say to the voters as to why Obama bailed out the UAW Chrylser and is gonna bail out UAW GM but won't help California?!

1021 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:35:46am

re: #1001 redstateredneck

They won't buy it. I didn't.

I know, but it's still a good story. Heard a lot of African folk tales growing up. Always liked the one about why the spider has such a narrow waste.

1022 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:36:00am

re: #1002 Nevergiveup

B Boxer being a bitch. Now that title I am sure she has earned. Anyone if remotely familiar with the Military knows " ma am" Is proforma and meant to be polite.

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

What a petty ass.

I stated it yesterday. If I were the general, I would have looked her right in the eye and say

"Sorry Senator, Ma'am"

1023 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:36:13am

re: #984 Fluffy Bunny

Turn, we went through water resue training with the Newfs and enjoyed it almost as much as the pups. Bailey was a superstar, with great potential but Tahoe just liked swimming. We never did put the training to use but it was fun and we met some great people and their dogs.

You end up in trouble in the water around those two and you'll see it put to use for sure.

1024 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:36:28am

re: #1017 Nevergiveup

I might be mis-remembering my Manual of Common Tasks, but aren't all Generals referred to simply as "General"?

1025 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:36:48am

re: #1022 sattv4u2

I stated it yesterday. If I were the general, I would have looked her right in the eye and say

"Sorry Senator, Ma'am"

Good one.

1026 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:37:09am

re: #1010 turn

When they get off track each breed has a unique method of getting back on, some will circle in wider and wider circles and others will haphazardly set off in different directions and return. When they find sombody dead it takes an emotional toll on them, she would intentionally take them out the next day on a staged search that would have a happy ending.

I see one of my dachshund doing the circling thing when she's trying to find her ball outside. Once she finds where it landed and rolled she'll strike out on that path to find it.

1027 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:37:19am

re: #1019 jcm

Congress cuts $1.2 Billion from missile defense, but it's okay.

It's okay because it's only Hawaii.

There's really nothing to worry about, after all it's only possible they can already mate a nuclear warhead to a missile.

I know I feel better, the unicorn fart rainbow shield will keep me safe.

Well ,, Hawaii's not even one of the 57 states. 0bama's own people wouldn't let him go there during the election!

//

1028 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:37:27am

re: #974 ihateronpaul Dogs can spell better than humans not because they smell in 3-d which is impossible(the dog can only pick up odor molocules which come in contact with his nose so can't form a 3d image since that requires a different sort of information) but because they have far more scent receptors in their nose and roof of mouth that they can detect much more minute traces. It is quite easy to fool hte trainer but virtually impossible to fool the dog which is where most idiots running drugs make the mistake.

1029 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:37:59am

re: #1028 rustler

My dog can't spell for shit.

1030 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:38:30am

re: #976 rustler

that's interesting...Actually, I've heard that cougars are also making a come-back in areas of northern/central Alberta...(cougars spotted in Calgary, Alberta)..Some people say that if you go hiking/camping in some locations, the real threat is no longer black bears, but cougars...(some are also claiming that the poulation increase is related to global warming --- the conditions are drier and hence the mouse population increases, leading to a cougar increase ..etc.)

1031 justabill  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:38:35am

re: #873 J.S.

The CBC didn't say whether the cougar attack was the reason for their decision to move to Mexico --- they probably made the decision to move before the cougar attack, and the cougar just cemented/confirmed it ( as in "yeah, we're getting out of here!") I haven't been to Salt Spring Island (yet at one time I lived on an island in British Ciolumbia -- and we always took a ferry to Comox)...

They probably want to have the girl get treated for her injuries before she retires...
/

1032 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:39:02am

If I had a dog that smelled I'd give him a bath.

1033 vxbush  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:39:04am

re: #1005 Irish Rose

Are you nuts?

Apparently, but I cannot change company policy.

1034 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:39:18am

re: #1021 BlueCanuck

I know, but it's still a good story. Heard a lot of African folk tales growing up. Always liked the one about why the spider has such a narrow waste.

That's a new one on me.

1035 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:39:36am

re: #1032 unrealizedviewpoint

"My cat's breath smells like cat food."

Ralph Wiggum

1036 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:40:01am

re: #990 Kosh's Shadow
They also drag their butts on hte ground a lot when their anal glands need draining.

1037 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:40:05am

re: #1029 Lincolntf

My dog can't spell for shit.

My 3 cats think your dog is a dumb shit, even the one sitting in the corner staring at the wall?
/

1038 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:40:06am

re: #1029 Lincolntf

My dog can't spell for shit.

Nor can mine - and she's a Border Collie ...

I must have missed out on the spell-training ...

1039 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:40:32am

re: #1009 Fluffy Bunny
are you typing in the code backwards?!?
Do you want to blue your nic for one time around and I'll try to e-mail you?

1040 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:40:40am

Realwest, looks like I need to fiddle with Outlook to make this work. However, I have a hair appointment in 30 minutes and my guy will chop off my head if I am late. I will try again this afternoon.

I hope you are well!

1041 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:41:41am

re: #973 redstateredneck

ha, funny story. Can anybody figure out why the hell dogs love to roll in smelly stuff? That pisses me off with the boob, the worst thing so far has been a rotten Salmon, gawd he got into that thing big time before I got to him. I've heard they do it as a disguise, I don't know.

1042 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:41:44am

re: #1037 Nevergiveup

Sadly, I don't even really have a dog. My backyard neighbor has one and I pretend he's mine whenever his owner's aren't home.

1043 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:41:51am
1044 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:41:59am

re: #1040 Fluffy Bunny

Realwest, looks like I need to fiddle with Outlook to make this work. However, I have a hair appointment in 30 minutes and my guy will chop off my head if I am late. I will try again this afternoon.

I hope you are well!

That would save you a lot of money in future trips to the hairdresser.

1045 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:43:24am

re: #989 avanti

Good luck, man I wish I had money to gamble with.

1046 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #1043 redstateredneck

Gratuitous dog pic.

Steakz, u promzed me steakz.

1047 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:43:50am

re: #1044 Walter L. Newton

That would save you a lot of money in future trips to the hairdresser.

Just do what I do. Cut it yourself. Of course I only have about five of them.

1048 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:44:10am

re: #1041 turn

ha, funny story. Can anybody figure out why the hell dogs love to roll in smelly stuff? That pisses me off with the boob, the worst thing so far has been a rotten Salmon, gawd he got into that thing big time before I got to him. I've heard they do it as a disguise, I don't know.

Primal hunting thingy. A dog does that to mask their own scent from potential prey.

1049 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:44:17am

re: #1011 Ford_Prefect
Yup, it is great to hang out with the good folks at LGF.
Does pick up my spirits some!

1050 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:44:20am

re: #990 Kosh's Shadow

TMI, ha

1051 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:44:26am

re: #1041 turn

ha, funny story. Can anybody figure out why the hell dogs love to roll in smelly stuff? That pisses me off with the boob, the worst thing so far has been a rotten Salmon, gawd he got into that thing big time before I got to him. I've heard they do it as a disguise, I don't know.

Yeah, I always thought it was to cover their own scent. And the going around in circles before they lay down that some of them do is to trample down the grass to make a bed. There is no grass on the foot of my bed, but Sadie Mae has to go around and around and around.

1052 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:44:30am

re: #1034 redstateredneck

Okay, here's a variation of the story I was told. This one is about his legs. The one I was told He had two friends. And the rope was tied to his waist. I should write it down for posterity.

1053 MJ  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:45:00am

Obama's new BFF in the Middle East now that the US is trying to throw Israel under the bus:

Assad Congratulates Ahmadinejad

Immediately upon the release of the official results, Assad sent a letter to Ahmadinejad congratulating him on his reelection. Assad expressed his assurance that the friendship between the two peoples would continue to grow, as would the cooperation between the two countries, "which are both pursuing a just and comprehensive peace in the region and in the world at large."(1)...

Memri.org

1054 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:45:22am

re: #1041 turn

ha, funny story. Can anybody figure out why the hell dogs love to roll in smelly stuff? That pisses me off with the boob, the worst thing so far has been a rotten Salmon, gawd he got into that thing big time before I got to him. I've heard they do it as a disguise, I don't know.

Yep - thats the scientific explanation. it goes back to their wolf-ancestry, who needed to smell not like wolves when out for a successful hunt.

Me personally, I think its just like us wimmin dabbing on scent ...

The worst I've ever seen was a freshly groomed, very pretty Westie, happily trotting along, until he spied a pile of dog-poo.
And then he even more happily rolled in it ...!

1055 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:45:38am

re: #1046 jcm

Steakz, u promzed me steakz.

LOL! Good caption.

1056 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:46:17am

re: #1043 redstateredneck

Gratuitous dog pic.

Awwww ..... so sweet!

1057 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:46:20am

re: #1041 turn

Friends dog did that the other day. Had to call a groomer for emergency cleaning. She said that he was so white after wards that it was hard to look at him in the sunlight.

1058 rustler  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:46:23am

re: #1041 turn
Most of the strong scented animals are prey not predator. Dogs and large cats will roll in the spoor of their intended prey to mask their own scent and make hunting easier.

1059 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:46:40am

re: #1049 realwest

Yup, it is great to hang out with the good folks at LGF.
Does pick up my spirits some!

And get huggies from the ladies!
{ { {realwest} } } *smooch*

;-)

1060 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:46:47am

re: #1002 Nevergiveup

RE: Boxer

What the general REALLY should have said

"No Senator, you did NOT "earn" that title. They bestow it (i.e. GIVE it) to you because you won an election. You ran as a far lefty from the farthest lefty state spending your hubbhy's money to buy influence (i.e. votes) . No great accomplishment there.
I only the other hand have EARNED these stars. I have put my life on the line for this country and gave up a personal private life to serve my country for my entire adult existance, Ma'am"

1061 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:47:54am

re: #1041 turn

ha, funny story. Can anybody figure out why the hell dogs love to roll in smelly stuff? That pisses me off with the boob, the worst thing so far has been a rotten Salmon, gawd he got into that thing big time before I got to him. I've heard they do it as a disguise, I don't know.

Disguising your odor to fool prey is an instinct.

1062 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:48:17am

re: #1057 BlueCanuck

Friends dog did that the other day. Had to call a groomer for emergency cleaning. She said that he was so white after wards that it was hard to look at him in the sunlight.

Heh.

We only ever marched them straight under the hosepip - no matter if it was summer or winter!

Fox poo and dead moles are especially obnoxious ...

1063 slokat  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:48:47am

re: #1061 OldLineTexan

Disguising your odor to fool prey is an instinct.

You talking women or dogs?

1064 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:00am
1065 JacksonTn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:05am

This is crazy ...

Al Gore invests in car company in Louisiana ... to build a new "green" car ... named ... what else? ... Karma ... it will cost around $87,000 ... wth will be able to buy it? ...

[Link: www.dailyfinance.com...]

1066 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:20am

re: #1044 Walter L. Newton

That would save you a lot of money in future trips to the hairdresser.

I would not go to a shari'a barber.

/

1067 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:31am

re: #1052 BlueCanuck

Okay, here's a variation of the story I was told. This one is about his legs. The one I was told He had two friends. And the rope was tied to his waist. I should write it down for posterity.

Ooh, good one. Mother was big on reading us the "Just So" stories by Rudyard Kipling. I still love those.

1068 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:34am

re: #1026 redstateredneck

I see one of my dachshund doing the circling thing when she's trying to find her ball outside. Once she finds where it landed and rolled she'll strike out on that path to find it.

Luke uses the haphazard method. That boob only wants to try and sniff out friggin tennis balls on our walks lately, won't even retrieve sticks now. Well he'll bring them back but spits them out in the water and sets out trying to find a ball.

1069 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:52am

re: #1062 yma o hyd

He's done it before, and it hasn't been this bad. My friend told me that it was so bad she had to cancel a client. He was in the house only long enough to call the groomer and the stench still lingered for hours.

1070 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:49:57am
1071 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:50:23am

re: #1064 buzzsawmonkey

What does that say about women--or men, for that matter--dousing themselves in perfume?

That goes back to the Court at Versailles, in the time of the sun King.

People used scent because they simply didn't wash themselves.

Nor had the water closet been invented yet.

Heavy scents were a necessity!

1072 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:50:28am

re: #1056 yma o hyd

Awwww ..... so sweet!

She's the fave model of my daughter, the aspiring photographer.

1073 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:51:25am

re: #1067 redstateredneck

I liked Kiplings stories. But when my mom sat us down for Anansi.....

/well I liked them, but I was always considered the strange one. :)

1074 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:51:49am

re: #1069 BlueCanuck

He's done it before, and it hasn't been this bad. My friend told me that it was so bad she had to cancel a client. He was in the house only long enough to call the groomer and the stench still lingered for hours.

OMG - that must have been a really powerful stink - probably most attractive to the pooch!

1075 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:52:05am

re: #1058 rustler

Most of the strong scented animals are prey not predator. Dogs and large cats will roll in the spoor of their intended prey to mask their own scent and make hunting easier.

Well, one of mine rolls on my husbands dirty underwear if he leaves them on the floor.
Guess you have to make do with what's available!

1076 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:52:20am

re: #1070 buzzsawmonkey

Isn't Fox Poo that Huffington site?

Not when the dog meets it on a meadow ...

1077 Lincolntf  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:52:32am

re: #1065 JacksonTn

All the people who've cashed in on the Global Warming myth will be able to afford it, that's for sure.

1078 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:53:01am

re: #1072 redstateredneck

She's the fave model of my daughter, the aspiring photographer.

She looks as if she knows it, too!

1079 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #1063 slokat

re: #1064 buzzsawmonkey

Men are not typically using the olfactory organ in that particular hunt.

I think most women's scents these days are to please the wearer. NTTAWWT.

1080 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:53:36am

Crazy Pam keeps posting pictures of mutilated bodies. Now she's posting pics of aborted fetuses. It's now impossible to even scroll through her site to see what she's shrieking about.

1081 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:54:32am

People and especially twitters are now coming back from that demo.

Here's a tweet from Iran09:
'friends, came back from D gathering for martyrs of #gr88. Mousavi was there 2. calm and peaceful (till 19:0 that I was there)'

1082 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:54:43am

re: #1062 yma o hyd

Heh.

We only ever marched them straight under the hosepip - no matter if it was summer or winter!

Fox poo and dead moles are especially obnoxious ...

Years ago, my mother's dog kept coming home with the stench of rotting animal on him. She'd bathe him and next day, same thing. Finally found out that one of the neighbors had mole traps in his yard and he was throwing the dead moles over the fence in the pasture that ran behind our houses!

1083 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:54:54am

re: #1048 JohnnyReb

Primal hunting thingy. A dog does that to mask their own scent from potential prey.

Yes I suppose that's true since the urge to do it seems to be higher in hunting dogs. My lhasas don't do it and my old Shitzus I used to have didn't either.

1084 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:56:07am

re: #1081 yma o hyd

I saw reports that the police didn't even show up. The Militia stayed home.

1085 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:56:10am

re: #1083 turn

Yes I suppose that's true since the urge to do it seems to be higher in hunting dogs. My lhasas don't do it and my old Shitzus I used to have didn't either.

If your NAME is shitzu, you already have enough to deal with as it is. Imagine the bad puns ...

And lhasas are Tibetan ... I suppose if they find a rotting corpse, they say a little prayer over it.

/

1086 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:56:41am

re: #1078 yma o hyd

She looks as if she knows it, too!

Very vain, she is.

1087 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:56:41am

re: #1082 redstateredneck

Years ago, my mother's dog kept coming home with the stench of rotting animal on him. She'd bathe him and next day, same thing. Finally found out that one of the neighbors had mole traps in his yard and he was throwing the dead moles over the fence in the pasture that ran behind our houses!

Cripes!

Seems there is something to be grateful for, living in a town ...

1088 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:56:52am
1089 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:57:33am

re: #1080 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam keeps posting pictures of mutilated bodies. Now she's posting pics of aborted fetuses. It's now impossible to even scroll through her site to see what she's shrieking about.

Why?

1090 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:57:43am

re: #1040 Fluffy Bunny
No problem! Whatever you need to e-mail me about isn't worth getting your head chopped off! LOL!

1091 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:57:44am

re: #970 Lincolntf

Sorry, but this is the only MSG worth missing.

OT:
A pilot on board a Continental Air Flt from Brussels to EWR died on the plane; copilots are now in command.

1092 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:59:00am

re: #1054 yma o hyd

During Salmon season on the American I'll pack a bar of soap along with me just in case. The boob also seeks out fisherman ever since he ate one of their sandwiches, he associates them with food.

1093 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:59:15am

re: #992 aggieann

I've never been a fan of soft drinks, but gave them up entirely after reading this:
[Link: articles.mercola.com...]

That guy appears, like all too many "natural health" types, to be selling something. He wanted me to register to read the article for free. I declined a read it around the registration box. I call bullshit on the article. Wanna bet he's also possibly an anti-vaxer?

1094 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:59:31am

re: #1084 Killgore Trout

I saw reports that the police didn't even show up. The Militia stayed home.

Now that might be a good sign - or it might not: the authorities may ahve kept police and militia inside so they can go hunt dissenters under cover of darkness, when they are in small groups.

Just thinking of the reports on the various student dorms, where a lot of brutality seems to ahve happened.

1095 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:59:36am

re: #1059 redstateredneck
Indeed, the huggies and smooches are great {red}
*Smooch*!

1096 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:59:39am

re: #1083 turn
Goodmorning Turn,
Is it nice out your way?
Seems we get your weather in 24 hrs.........
Forcast is nice tomm.. and rain on Sat...
I guess the only way the boat will get wet is from above!
Drat!

1097 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:59:40am

re: #1091 lawhawk

Sorry, but this is the only MSG worth missing.

OT:
A pilot on board a Continental Air Flt from Brussels to EWR died on the plane; copilots are now in command.

Plane just landed at Newark

1098 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:00:14am

re: #1089 MandyManners

I don't know. It was something about how Obama loves the mullahs and she included a pic of an aborted fetus. I had to close the window after I caught a glimpse of the pic.
Her fetish for blood and gore is really disturbing.

1099 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:02:06am

re: #1094 yma o hyd

I think we've already seen the tipping point. Even if the theocracy manages to survive I don't think it's going to last long. The people have lost confidence in the system.

1100 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:02:16am

re: #1092 turn

During Salmon season on the American I'll pack a bar of soap along with me just in case. The boob also seeks out fisherman ever since he ate one of their sandwiches, he associates them with food.

Of course!
Being a lab - they associate everything with food! even stuff which is inedible, like rubebr gloves or dishcloths!

Big dog, having the greedy parts of the lab passed down to him, and also being a clever Border Collie, went up to everybody in the park who had his left hand in their pocket.
He knew - dog owner + left hand in pocket = titbits!

1101 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:02:24am

re: #1083 turn

Yes I suppose that's true since the urge to do it seems to be higher in hunting dogs. My lhasas don't do it and my old Shitzus I used to have didn't either.

I was told it is more prevalent in dogs that are considered sight hunters. Our Akita was very very bad at doing that. Every time we took him to Fort Trumble for a walk he would have to roll in the goose poop a couple of times. He didn't care about the geese, heck you could let him off the leash and he would just run around and not bother them.

1102 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:02:27am

re: #1057 BlueCanuck

That's bad allright, you should have seen the little ones sniff Luke when he got back that day.

1103 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:02:59am

re: #1089 MandyManners

Why?

Why? Because she wouldn't be Crazy Pam otherwise. Why anyone takes Geller's word on something blows my mind. We've seen that she's perfectly insane. How else can one explain her cognitive dissonance regarding the Holocaust, Pat Buchanan, Vlaams Belang, BNP, and Hitler?

1104 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:03:38am

re: #1098 Killgore Trout

I don't know. It was something about how Obama loves the mullahs and she included a pic of an aborted fetus. I had to close the window after I caught a glimpse of the pic.
Her fetish for blood and gore is really disturbing.

I don't see the connection.

1105 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:03:46am

re: #1075 redstateredneck

Well, one of mine rolls on my husbands dirty underwear if he leaves them on the floor.
Guess you have to make do with what's available!

I saw a cartoon that showed a cat on a pile of warm, freshly-cleaned laundry, calling it cat heaven.
And a dog popping its head out of a hamper of dirty clothes, calling it dog heaven.

1106 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:04:16am
1107 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:04:18am

re: #1089 MandyManners

Why?

Because she wants attention.

1108 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:04:27am

re: #1058 rustler

Most of the strong scented animals are prey not predator. Dogs and large cats will roll in the spoor of their intended prey to mask their own scent and make hunting easier.

I didn't know cats did that too, I guess you mean as in cougars. I wonder if dometicated cats do it.

1109 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:04:45am

re: #1103 Honorary Yooper

Why? Because she wouldn't be Crazy Pam otherwise. Why anyone takes Geller's word on something blows my mind. We've seen that she's perfectly insane. How else can one explain her cognitive dissonance regarding the Holocaust, Pat Buchanan, Vlaams Belang, BNP, and Hitler?

You can find a way to justify just about anything in your head, if you hate deeply enough.

1110 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:05:06am

re: #1089 MandyManners

why?

Crazy Pam

1st word shoud give you a hint!

1111 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:05:33am

re: #1080 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam keeps posting pictures of mutilated bodies. Now she's posting pics of aborted fetuses. It's now impossible to even scroll through her site to see what she's shrieking about.

When you mentioned aborted fetuses I thought I'd see if that's true.

"A pregnant woman was shot while participating in the peaceful mass rally in Tehran on Monday June 15th. She was rushed to hospital. Doctors preformed an emergency operation. The baby was found dead after extraction from her mother's womb. Later her mother died too."
1112 aggieann  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:05:37am

re: #1093 Honorary Yooper

That guy appears, like all too many "natural health" types, to be selling something. He wanted me to register to read the article for free. I declined a read it around the registration box. I call bullshit on the article. Wanna bet he's also possibly an anti-vaxer?

Sorry! There are dozens of sites with this info and I happened to choose one that requires registration. (facepalm)

Article starts like this. Search if you're interested in the whole thing.

Have you ever wondered why Coke comes with a smile? It’s because it gets you high. They took the cocaine out almost a hundred years ago. You know why? It was redundant.
# In The First 10 minutes: 10 teaspoons of sugar hit your system. (100% of your recommended daily intake.) You don’t immediately vomit from the overwhelming sweetness because phosphoric acid cuts the flavor allowing you to keep it down.
# 20 minutes: Your blood sugar spikes, causing an insulin burst. Your liver responds to this by turning any sugar it can get its hands on into fat. (There’s plenty of that at this particular moment)
# 40 minutes: Caffeine absorption is complete. Your pupils dilate, your blood pressure rises, as a response your livers dumps more sugar into your bloodstream. The adenosine receptors in your brain are now blocked preventing drowsiness.
# 45 minutes: Your body ups your dopamine production stimulating the pleasure centers of your brain. This is physically the same way heroin works, by the way.

1113 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:05:52am

re: #1108 turn

I didn't know cats did that too, I guess you mean as in cougars. I wonder if dometicated cats do it.

Mm, nope, not really. Not if by "domesticated cats" you mean the generic housecat variety. If cats roll in anything it tends to be dust or grass, almost like a dustbath.

1114 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:05:53am

re: #1103 Honorary Yooper

Why? Because she wouldn't be Crazy Pam otherwise. Why anyone takes Geller's word on something blows my mind. We've seen that she's perfectly insane. How else can one explain her cognitive dissonance regarding the Holocaust, Pat Buchanan, Vlaams Belang, BNP, and Hitler?

Boggles my mind.

1115 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:06:16am

re: #1091 lawhawk

Sorry, but this is the only MSG worth missing.

OT:
A pilot on board a Continental Air Flt from Brussels to EWR died on the plane; copilots are now in command.

That's one of the reasons there is a co-pilot.

BTW, Mythbusters were able to land a simulator using modern flight control systems, but crashed aircraft when they tried to fly them by hand.

Stryker, it's a different kind of flying altogether.

1116 subsailor68  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:06:21am

Well, this is a little disturbing:

Senator questions firing of 3 inspectors general

I was aware of the Walpin case, but didn't know that two other IG's are also on the block, one at Treasury and the other at the ITC. I'm not sure I like this trend very much.

1117 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:06:23am

re: #1105 Kosh's Shadow

I saw a cartoon that showed a cat on a pile of warm, freshly-cleaned laundry, calling it cat heaven.
And a dog popping its head out of a hamper of dirty clothes, calling it dog heaven.

True!

1118 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:06:34am

re: #1099 Killgore Trout

I think we've already seen the tipping point. Even if the theocracy manages to survive I don't think it's going to last long. The people have lost confidence in the system.

Definitely - and adding in the reports about some clerics condemning this election looks as if tehre are rifts developing in the Mullahcraty.

If Rafsanjani's children are on the side of Mousavi, I think his 'clan' will eventually come out on Mousavi's side.

Perhaps Khamenei and ahmadi are losing control ...

1119 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:07:09am

re: #1111 unrealizedviewpoint

Ah, that makes sense. I saw the mutilated fetus and thought it was one of those abortion pics.

1120 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:08:04am

re: #1104 MandyManners

I don't see the connection.

She's complaining that Obama is only "troubled" by the situation in Iran, but "shocked and outraged" by the murder of Dr. Tiller.

Because Obama is a sekrit mooslim, you see... didn't you get the memo?

1121 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:08:11am

Sanity can be boring.

1122 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:08:37am

re: #1105 Kosh's Shadow

I saw a cartoon that showed a cat on a pile of warm, freshly-cleaned laundry, calling it cat heaven.
And a dog popping its head out of a hamper of dirty clothes, calling it dog heaven.

2 of my cats lover to sit on top of the dryer and/or washer and the dishwasher in the kitchen. The 3rd one is to fat to bother jumping up.

1123 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:08:46am

re: #1108 turn

If you want to be "dometicated" you need to look smell "dometicated"
/

1124 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:08:57am

StopAhmadi is now also back from the demo:
'RT @iran09: friends, came back from D gathering 4 martyrs of #gr88. Mousavi was thr 2. calm & peaceful'

1125 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:09:02am

re: #1121 MandyManners

Sanity can be boring.

If everybody in this world were sane and rational, we'd be out of a job.

1126 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:09:10am

re: #1101 JohnnyReb

I was told it is more prevalent in dogs that are considered sight hunters. Our Akita was very very bad at doing that. Every time we took him to Fort Trumble for a walk he would have to roll in the goose poop a couple of times. He didn't care about the geese, heck you could let him off the leash and he would just run around and not bother them.

Bears do it, too. I remember watching a film from Alaska. A dead whale had washed up on the beach, and had been rotting there for quite a while, still largely intact, when an Alaskan brown bear showed up. He had trouble getting through the skin, and was standing on top of the bloated carcass, bouncing up and down, when the skin ruptured and Mr. Bear plunged into the largely liquid, highly rancid interior. Where it proceeded to roll around and completely coat itself in the greasy, noxious fluid.

I think it must be something bear chicks really dig.

1127 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:09:56am

re: #1091 lawhawk
Plane just landed at Newark - it's so foggy, misty there you could hardly see the plane - apparently there was another pilot free-riding who came up to cockpit to help out co-pilot.

1128 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:09:59am

No one asks you to explain
when they all believe that your insane!

1129 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:11:00am
1130 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:11:21am

re: #1121 MandyManners

Sanity can be boring.

I like boring. Anything else means bad stuff is happening. Usually at an accelerated rate of time too.

1131 legalpad  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:11:37am

re: #1121 MandyManners

Sanity can be boring.

Of course, true insanity is really boring. But being unconventional, eccentric, exceptional, innovative, and audacious, that is very interesting.

1132 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:12:25am

re: #1119 Killgore Trout

btw, did you catch CNN last night (iirc on Anderson Cooper?)...I believe it was Anderson Cooper who wished to make a "correction"...and it was about Andrew Sullivan's website using a Green banner -- Cooper had suggested that the green banner was to show support for Mousavi...apparently, Sullivan contacted CNN to let them know that the color of the banner had nothing to do with support for Mousavi (Sullivan's website randomly changes the color of its banner -- or so the claim...)

1133 opnion  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:12:42am

It looks like the Mullahs have unleashed a whrlwind with this election.
Chicago election tactics don't fly over there with all of the young Iranians.
In all of the reports that I have read & heard I have heard nothing about the Army. Anybody have any info where the Army is at on all of this?

1134 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:12:51am

re: #1096 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Good morning reload, hey your nic is all caps what's up with that? Yes it has been spectacular weather in Sac this summer. It will be moving up to the upper ninties over the next week but still cools down into the upper fifties at night. Reservoirs are full and the rivers are flowing high, great year to camp.

1135 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:14:12am

re: #1121 MandyManners

I'll take boring, please.

1136 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:14:15am

re: #1126 SixDegrees

Male moose also create a "wallow" -- the male moose urinates/defecates, makes it into a muddy, stinking slough, then wallows in it...apparently to attract female moose.

1137 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:14:33am

re: #1129 buzzsawmonkey

Mullah's cannot permitted nukes. End of subject.

1138 VegasRick  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:15:08am

re: #1135 Kenneth

I'll take boring, please.

I haven't been bored since 1985.

1139 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:15:11am

re: #1060 sattv4u2
You know, the General was right to call her "Ma'am" but, although I hate to say it, she does carry the title of Senator and while it was churlish of her to bring it up at all, from what I could see she did refer to him as General not "sir".
FWLIW.
Still want to know how she, Diane and Pelosi are gonna explain to their voters that they are so powerful and important that they should be re-elected when Obama turned down California's request for assistance, but didn't turn down the UAW.

1140 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:15:35am

re: #1136 J.S.

Male moose also create a "wallow" -- the male moose urinates/defecates, makes it into a muddy, stinking slough, then wallows in it...apparently to attract female moose.

Always worked for me!

1141 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:15:37am

re: #1134 turn

Cool!
Aparently only the password is case specific.
I was on my work request program which must be cap lock...
Didn't catch it till I logged on the password

1142 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:16:16am
1143 CIA Reject  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:16:33am

re: #1138 VegasRick

I haven't been bored since 1985.

"I once gave up smoking, drinking, and sex all at the same time- it was the most boring fifteen minutes of my life"
-W.C. Fields

1144 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:16:49am

re: #1132 J.S.

Ah, I didn't know that.

1145 mystry  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:16:54am

#1121 I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!

1146 apachegunner  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:16:59am

re: #1096 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY
well reload, i see your name is blue today :>)

1147 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:17:00am

re: #1100 yma o hyd

You got that right! ha that's a funny story about big dog. For the first time ever Luke snatched something I was eating off the patio table last week. I scolded him and told him to get away, about a half hour later I had to go find him. He was laying on the back porch of the cottage sulking, I doubt if he'll ever do it again.

1148 Irish Rose  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:17:31am

re: #1133 opnion

It looks like the Mullahs have unleashed a whrlwind with this election.
Chicago election tactics don't fly over there with all of the young Iranians.
In all of the reports that I have read & heard I have heard nothing about the Army. Anybody have any info where the Army is at on all of this?

Pammy thinks that we need to send in the CIA to investigate.

1149 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:17:39am

re: #1141 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

I didn't know it would do that

1150 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:18:21am

re: #1139 realwest

Hot Air noted that the General referred to other Senators by Sir, instead of Senator, and it was only Boxer who got all angered by that title.

There was no disrespect there, except for Boxer's nonsense.

It's pettiness, but that's what so many of our leaders are these days. Petty.

1151 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:18:24am
1152 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:18:26am

re: #1137 unrealizedviewpoint

Mullah's cannot permitted nukes. End of subject.

Ha?

1153 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:18:36am

They're Winning

The Basij have now begun to cover their faces, whereas previously they hadn’t. This indicates they are becoming more scared of retaliation from the general public, similar to Iraqi security forces. Also, we have heard that cell phone service is cut off at night. There have been efforts to identify members of the Basij who have used violence against demonstrators, through facebook and other social networking websites. It’s interesting to see the feared militias themselves becoming afraid of retaliation.

Another good sign.

1154 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:18:42am

re: #1148 Irish Rose

Pammy thinks that we need to send in the CIA to investigate.

What naive statement huh? Like they're not there?

1155 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:18:47am

re: #1146 apachegunner
Yup!
I'm grtting better at this every day!
Still can't get the right Avatar tho.........
I have no idea where the Crimson Trace add came from?

1156 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:00am

re: #1149 turn

Yeah, I have done that before. The next page you go to your nic returns to the original look.

1157 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:14am

re: #1149 turn

Walter pointed it out a month or so back.........

1158 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:15am

re: #1116 subsailor68
Hey sub! That's just part of Obama's open and transparent government.
/do I really need this>?

1159 MJ  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:27am

re: #1129 buzzsawmonkey

Obama will not have to "convince" anyone; he will simply announce that he is going.

If, as I believe, his objective is to obtain an agreement from the mullahs that they will not nuke Israel in exchange for the US not opposing Iran's nuclear program--basically ceding the Middle East as an Iranian sphere of influence, which is what they want--so that he can use the existence of Iranian nukes and the US's ability to hold them in abeyance as the Big Stick to force concessions from Netanyahu, there will be no effective opposition here. Many people will welcome the prospect of a supposed Middle East resolution. And, if/when it comes unstuck later, and Israel does get nuked--well, so sorry, but who could have possibly foreseen it?

In the meantime, reassigning Dennis Ross away from Iran to Israeli-Arab matters suggests that Ross's job will be to cram the deal Ehud Barak offered Arafat, and Arafat turned down (all or most of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem), down Netanyahu's throat, with the threat of Iranian nukes held in abeyance by the US as the prompter. Ross, remember, was involved in the Barak/Arafat non-deal, and would probably love to see "his" deal come to fruition ten years on, regardless of what it means for Israel.

"....The big question, though, is why? Obama administration officials have been cryptic when asked about the reason for the shuffle. Does it mean that the White House is the real center of the action when it comes to foreign policy? Were there too many special envoys over at the State Department? Was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton not giving Mr. Ross enough face time? Or is Mr. Ross going to assume more of a role in Mr. Obama’s evolving Middle East policy, particularly in relations with Israel?

Senior administration officials said that Mr. Obama values Mr. Ross, who backed Mr. Obama early on during the election campaign, and wanted the benefit of his strategic thinking nearby. One official suggested that the combination of Mr. Ross, a veteran Arab-Israeli negotiator and longtime foreign policy hand, and National Security Adviser General James L. Jones would help the administration to come up with a better, more cohesive long-term strategy for America’s relations with the world....


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Yeah, Ross and Jones and Mitchell are gonna come up with a more cohesive strategy for Americas relations with the world....it's called the Screw Israel Policy.
I hear Jones is gonna be out soon though.

1160 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:34am

re: #1150 lawhawk

Hot Air noted that the General referred to other Senators by Sir, instead of Senator, and it was only Boxer who got all angered by that title.

There was no disrespect there, except for Boxer's nonsense.

It's pettiness, but that's what so many of our leaders are these days. Petty.

However, Walsh surely meant no disrespect, as military protocol advises that officers may use "sir" or "ma'am" when addressing anybody higher than them on the chain of command.

According to one guide, the Navy and Coast Guard typically use "mister" or "miss" to address officers below the rank of commander, and "sir" or "ma'am," or a specific title, to address anyone at that rank or higher.

"You can never go wrong by using 'Sir' or 'Ma'am,' but it is a nice touch if you can properly address a senior officer," says the guide, Military Protocol: Uniformed Services.

Tuesday's hearing was hardly the first time a military officer used those terms during sworn testimony.

The same day at a Senate Armed Services subcommittee hearing, two Navy officials repeatedly referred to Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., with the title, "sir."

"Yes, sir," Navy Vice Adm. Bernard McCullough said when answering questions.

Wicker raised no objections.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

1161 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:35am

re: #1129 buzzsawmonkey

Obama will not have to "convince" anyone; he will simply announce that he is going.

If, as I believe, his objective is to obtain an agreement from the mullahs that they will not nuke Israel in exchange for the US not opposing Iran's nuclear program--basically ceding the Middle East as an Iranian sphere of influence, which is what they want--so that he can use the existence of Iranian nukes and the US's ability to hold them in abeyance as the Big Stick to force concessions from Netanyahu, there will be no effective opposition here. Many people will welcome the prospect of a supposed Middle East resolution. And, if/when it comes unstuck later, and Israel does get nuked--well, so sorry, but who could have possibly foreseen it?

In the meantime, reassigning Dennis Ross away from Iran to Israeli-Arab matters suggests that Ross's job will be to cram the deal Ehud Barak offered Arafat, and Arafat turned down (all or most of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem), down Netanyahu's throat, with the threat of Iranian nukes held in abeyance by the US as the prompter. Ross, remember, was involved in the Barak/Arafat non-deal, and would probably love to see "his" deal come to fruition ten years on, regardless of what it means for Israel.

It isn't just Israel that would get nuked. Why settle for the Little Satan when you can supply nuclear bombs to terrorist groups that will take them to the Great Satan?

1162 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:19:42am

re: #1156 BlueCanuck

oh, I guess I've never logged on in caps mode

1163 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:20:04am

What's wrong with me today? I keep leaving out words? If you see me do this please correct when quoting. Thanks!

1164 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:20:07am

So NOW What’s Going on in Iran?

The regime is massing two Revolutionary Guards divisions for an assault on the dissidents–something like twenty thousand soldiers from outside Tehran–and the Mousavi people don’t want to give them time to organize and prepare their attacks.

That was a comment from yesterday...any reports about this today?

1165 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:20:38am

re: #1136 J.S.

Male moose also create a "wallow" -- the male moose urinates/defecates, makes it into a muddy, stinking slough, then wallows in it...apparently to attract female moose.

Of course, they don't show you that on the Rocky and Bullwinkle show!

1166 opnion  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:20:45am

re: #1148 Irish Rose

Pammy thinks that we need to send in the CIA to investigate.


How quick would they become hostages & star in snuff films?
We don't have diplomatic realations with Iran. If CIA types blew their cover to investigate it would be ugly.
However I do think it is past time for Obama to quit playing this down the middle.

1167 MJ  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:20:48am

re: #1151 buzzsawmonkey

How about we send them Michael Scheuer? He doesn't have to investigate--they can just keep him.

He has already investigated. His finding: The Jews want blood.

1168 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:21:24am

re: #1148 Irish Rose

Pammy thinks that we need to send in the CIA to investigate.

I'd rather send Jimmy Carter.

1169 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:21:33am

re: #1112 aggieann

Sorry! There are dozens of sites with this info and I happened to choose one that requires registration. (facepalm)

Article starts like this. Search if you're interested in the whole thing.

Have you ever wondered why Coke comes with a smile? It’s because it gets you high. They took the cocaine out almost a hundred years ago. You know why? It was redundant.
# In The First 10 minutes: 10 teaspoons of sugar hit your system. (100% of your recommended daily intake.) You don’t immediately vomit from the overwhelming sweetness because phosphoric acid cuts the flavor allowing you to keep it down.
# 20 minutes: Your blood sugar spikes, causing an insulin burst. Your liver responds to this by turning any sugar it can get its hands on into fat. (There’s plenty of that at this particular moment)
# 40 minutes: Caffeine absorption is complete. Your pupils dilate, your blood pressure rises, as a response your livers dumps more sugar into your bloodstream. The adenosine receptors in your brain are now blocked preventing drowsiness.
# 45 minutes: Your body ups your dopamine production stimulating the pleasure centers of your brain. This is physically the same way heroin works, by the way.

I'm sure you can find copies of this tract all over the Web; that's the way the Web works. However, it is total bullshit, from start to finish. Just for starters: there is no "recommended daily intake" of sugar; the closest thing to such a recommendation is the FDA's recommended minimum intake of carbohydrates of 130 grams, more than three times the fictitious limit bandied about here.

It only gets worse from there.

1170 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #1091 lawhawk

Sorry, but this is the only MSG worth missing.

OT:
A pilot on board a Continental Air Flt from Brussels to EWR died on the plane; copilots are now in command.

That's why flights crews have two people.....

1171 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:06am

re: #1167 MJ

He has already investigated. His finding: The Jews want blood.

Well we need the blood to bake the Matzo remember?
/

1172 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:20am

re: #1153 Killgore Trout

They're Winning

Another good sign.

He's also showing scenes from Shiraz - saying that this is not just restricted to Tehran.

Too right - demos and Basiji beatings are going on all over Iran - this is not just about the urban masses.

1173 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:26am

re: #1150 lawhawk

Hot Air noted that the General referred to other Senators by Sir, instead of Senator, and it was only Boxer who got all angered by that title.

There was no disrespect there, except for Boxer's nonsense.

It's pettiness, but that's what so many of our leaders are these days. Petty.

Old feminists never did like "Ma'am." I'm not sure of the "reasoning," but it seems like pointing out their femaleness is demeaning, whereas "Senator" is gender-neutral.

1174 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:40am

OK!
I'm not SHOUTING NOW!

1175 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:45am

re: #1170 jcm

That's why flights crews have two people.....

And always skip the fish for dinner.

1176 opnion  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:22:55am

re: #1168 Honorary Yooper

I'd rather send Jimmy Carter.

Send Oprah! She could lecture them to death. The Mullahs would beg for mercy.

1177 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:23:02am

re: #1136 J.S.

Male moose also create a "wallow" -- the male moose urinates/defecates, makes it into a muddy, stinking slough, then wallows in it...apparently to attract female moose.

It reminds me a lot of my teenage son, for some reason...

1178 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:23:54am

re: #1175 Nevergiveup

And always skip the fish for dinner.

Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home.

1179 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:23:56am

re: #1164 Kenneth

So NOW What’s Going on in Iran?

That was a comment from yesterday...any reports about this today?

It was a huge and peaceful demo in Tehran - people are just coming back.
KT linked above to a report which said that police and militia were nowhere to be seen ...

1180 J.S.  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:24:02am

re: #1144 Killgore Trout

Actually, I'm still (sort of) confused. I looked up the transcript for Anderson Cooper 360 (program broadcast last night). Early on Anderson notes how Sullivan had changed his website to a green color design...Then, later on, Cooper states: "COOPER: Quick correction tonight in our Iran coverage. We mentioned the BBC and Andrew Sullivan changing their Web site color scheme to green in solidarity with the protesters. Andrew Sullivan did, and he praised the BBC for doing the same. But what he and we did not know is the green color scheme is simply one of many that they change at random. They did not change it for the protestors. Mr. Sullivan issues a correction, and now so do we. We regret the error. " (Does that make any sense?)

1181 VegasRick  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:24:09am

re: #1173 wrenchwench

Old feminists never did like "Ma'am." I'm not sure of the "reasoning," but it seems like pointing out their femaleness is demeaning, whereas "Senator" is gender-neutral.

"Yo, bitch" would be more appropriate for boxer.

1182 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:24:15am

re: #1164 Kenneth

I saw reports of that too. The reports from today don't mention any police presence. The militia was out but they were covering their faces now, no reports of violence. I haven't seen any reports of the military being in the streets.

1183 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:25:06am

Well I just turned on the Yes Network to watch this afternoons Yankee game. Optimist that I am since it hasn't stop raining here in NY metro Area in a month?

1184 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:25:15am

re: #1175 Nevergiveup

And always skip the fish for dinner.

Pretty close, their not allowed the same drinks or meals, in case of food contamination, accidental or intentional.

1185 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:25:24am

re: #1147 turn

You got that right! ha that's a funny story about big dog. For the first time ever Luke snatched something I was eating off the patio table last week. I scolded him and told him to get away, about a half hour later I had to go find him. He was laying on the back porch of the cottage sulking, I doubt if he'll ever do it again.

One of our big poodles will snatch food, and then go right to his crate.
Dog for "It's a fair cop".
But I think he figures the food was worth the penalty.

BTW, if he had the choice of bread or a steak, sometimes I think he'd steal the bread. Unfortunately, wheat makes him sick; he's on a wheat-free diet. (Right now, we get Blue Buffalo natural dog food. The vet sells it, and the dogs like it.)

1186 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:25:30am

re: #1177 SixDegrees

We're raising our Grandson...
He wanted Camo wall paper,I said "That's easy,We'' just staple dirty laundry to the wall"! He got the hint,sort of!

1187 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:25:32am
1188 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:25:36am

re: #1160 Nevergiveup

You're missing the point. Democrats are basically such ill-mannered, rude, ignorant, ill-bred, gormless, uncouth heathens they wouldn't recognize a proper respectful form of address if they heard it.

1189 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:26:10am

re: #1183 Nevergiveup

Well I just turned on the Yes Network to watch this afternoons Yankee game. Optimist that I am since it hasn't stop raining here in NY metro Area in a month?

Well, on the plus side, at least they won't lose to the worst team in baseball again today. ;)

1190 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:26:12am

re: #1150 lawhawk
Petty is Boxer's middle name. Or maybe Stupid is her middle name. Whatever, she is a piece of work.

1191 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:26:19am

re: #1169 SixDegrees

There's also all kinds of stuff online about high fructose corn syrup being an addictive poison. Usually on left wing sites. People on DU want HFCS banned.

1192 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:26:45am

re: #1186 reloadingisnotahobby

We're raising our Grandson...
He wanted Camo wall paper,I said "That's easy,We'' just staple dirty laundry to the wall"! He got the hint,sort of!

Heh.

1193 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:27:01am

*Yawn*

Is the world still here?

/ I need my coffee

1194 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:27:11am

re: #1179 yma o hyd

It was a huge and peaceful demo in Tehran - people are just coming back.
KT linked above to a report which said that police and militia were nowhere to be seen ...

Either the people or winning, or the Mullahs are regrouping.....

1195 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:27:37am

re: #1188 Kenneth

You're missing the point. Democrats are basically such ill-mannered, rude, ignorant, ill-bred, gormless, uncouth heathens they wouldn't recognize a proper respectful form of address if they heard it.

OK I'll go along with that

1196 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:27:49am

re: #1193 FurryOldGuyJeans

No, we are all figments of your imagination.

/or are you all figments of mine?

1197 yma o hyd  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:27:56am

Gotta go and feed them hounds now - they're on their way to the kitchen as I type!

BBIAB!

1198 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:27:58am

re: #1189 Ford_Prefect

Well, on the plus side, at least they won't lose to the worst team in baseball again today. ;)

That one hurt

1199 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:28:03am

re: #1180 J.S.

(Does that make any sense?)


Not really. But A lot of people are going to be embarrassed if Mousavi comes into power and leads as an old school dictator. People should be clear that they are supporting the ouster of the mullahs and not supporting Mousavi.

1200 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:28:08am

re: #1186 reloadingisnotahobby

We're raising our Grandson...
He wanted Camo wall paper,I said "That's easy,We'' just staple dirty laundry to the wall"! He got the hint,sort of!

LOL. How old is he?

1201 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:28:44am

The Kid wants to do X. I agreed, saying we'd do it at Y time. He said he wanted to do it earlier and a brief discussion ensued. He then said, "I'll just keep whining if we don't do it when I want".

He has no idea why I'm laughing.

1202 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:28:54am

here's something from the J-Post on the iran protests ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If you want to see how many Israeli and others view our President, take a look at the talkback messages at the bottom of the page ...

1203 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:29:04am

re: #1188 Kenneth

You're missing the point. Democrats are basically such ill-mannered, rude, ignorant, ill-bred, gormless, uncouth heathens they wouldn't recognize a proper respectful form of address if they heard it.

To a Leftie (or Democrat) the only form of address they feel is proper is "I Submit!"

1204 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:29:35am

re: #1201 MandyManners

The Kid wants to do X. I agreed, saying we'd do it at Y time. He said he wanted to do it earlier and a brief discussion ensued. He then said, "I'll just keep whining if we don't do it when I want".

He has no idea why I'm laughing.

Because he is going to win?

1205 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:29:37am

re: #1164 Kenneth

So NOW What’s Going on in Iran?


That was a comment from yesterday...any reports about this today?

All these new fangled imaging satellites should be able to get some pictures of 20k troops moving in on a large demonstration. The Iranians don't have the ability to shut those down.

1206 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:29:42am

re: #1198 Nevergiveup

That one hurt

And you don't have to play the Red Sox again until August. there is always good news if you know where to look.

1207 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:29:53am

Good morning all.

Could y'all send some of the gray wet stuff that's plaguing the east coast and midwest my way please. I would be happy to swap you 95 degree weather and plenty of sunshine.
*parched*

1208 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:30:11am

re: #1153 Killgore Trout

Covering their faces could also be a prelude for a violent crackdown by them.

1209 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:30:22am

re: #1191 Mad Al-Jaffee

There's also all kinds of stuff online about high fructose corn syrup being an addictive poison. Usually on left wing sites. People on DU want HFCS banned.

I've seen it. It's remarkably stupid. HFCS is sugar, plain and simple. The only thing wrong with it is that it's cheap and abundant, and winds up getting added to everything, so you wind up consuming a lot more calories than you might otherwise. It's well known that overeating is bad. That doesn't make sugar poisonous.

1210 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:30:28am

re: #1202 _RememberTonyC

here's something from the J-Post on the iran protests ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If you want to see how many Israeli and others view our President, take a look at the talkback messages at the bottom of the page ...

This about sums it up:

Obama meddles in Israeli politics, but not in Irans?
We have all arrived in bizzaro world, where everything is backwards: Obama won't given even token support to the Iranian dissidents, even though they are peacefully and democratically trying to change the brutal, dictatorial Iranian regime...BUT he has no problem dictating to Israel when it comes to borders, security, etc. Who the &*()! does Obama think he is?

1211 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:31:03am

re: #1205 CommonCents

All these new fangled imaging satellites should be able to get some pictures of 20k troops moving in on a large demonstration. The Iranians don't have the ability to shut those down.

Ear Leader won't "interfere" and let the demonstrators have such intel. And Google Earth would withhold the data if they ever got any.

1212 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:31:14am

re: #1210 Creeping Eruption


that was one of the money quotes!

1213 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:31:23am

Looks like they are going to try and get the game in today?

1214 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:31:55am

re: #1205 CommonCents

All these new fangled imaging satellites should be able to get some pictures of 20k troops moving in on a large demonstration. The Iranians don't have the ability to shut those down.

If it occurs within a satellite window. Orbital mechanics, satellites are overhead for a limited time, and fuel for maneuvering is strictly limited.

1215 redstateredneck  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:32:12am

re: #1207 jorline

Good morning all.

Could y'all send some of the gray wet stuff that's plaguing the east coast and midwest my way please. I would be happy to swap you 95 degree weather and plenty of sunshine.
*parched*

I'm as dry as you are.
Sorry.

1216 CIA Reject  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:32:25am

re: #1208 lawhawk

Covering their faces could also be a prelude for a violent crackdown by them.

My money is on regrouping for a violent crackdown. These bastards are not going to go gently into that dark night- they haven't spilled enough blood yet to even begin getting aroused let alone be done.

1217 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:32:32am

re: #1194 jcm

Either the people or winning, or the Mullahs are regrouping.....


Hi jcm - what would consitute the "people winning" here, do you think?

1218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:33:14am

re: #1215 redstateredneck

I'm as dry as you are.
Sorry.

49 days with hardly a drop. This is not normal for the Great NorthWet.

1219 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:33:18am

More Bloodshed To Come In Iran


The expulsion of foreign journalists is another ominous sign indicating that more bloodshed is planned. The government has made a calculated decision to confront demonstrations with pure force. It believes that the excitement of the people over the election results will be short lived. That the movement can be contained and the majority's will can be subdued using massive force and unimaginable brutality. In preparation for that scenario, it plans to isolate the country from the rest of the world as much as possible.

A pessimistic outlook. The regime has acted in the past with astonishing brutality. There can be no doubt some regime leaders a willing to do so now. The only question is why not yet? Have they been unable to find reliable thugs and get them into position?

1220 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:34:03am

re: #1217 realwest

Hi jcm - what would consitute the "people winning" here, do you think?

Morning RW...hope all is well with you my friend.

1221 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:34:29am

re: #1204 Nevergiveup

Because he is going to win?

Not in a million years.

1222 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:34:31am

re: #1202 _RememberTonyC

here's something from the J-Post on the iran protests ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If you want to see how many Israeli and others view our President, take a look at the talkback messages at the bottom of the page ...

From your link:

Trying again to satisfy the protesters' demands, Iran's main electoral authority invited Mousavi and two other candidates who ran against hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to a meeting.


I hope they're not taking a page out of Vlad Tepes' book.

1223 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:35:15am

re: #1221 MandyManners

Not in a million years.

Not even going to let him think he's winning for even a second? ;)

1224 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:35:30am

re: #1208 lawhawk

Covering their faces could also be a prelude for a violent crackdown by them.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, especially after hearing the news of those two divisions of IRG units headed to Teheran.
Methinks the end of this is going to be awfully bloody.

1225 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:35:38am

re: #1188 Kenneth

You're missing the point. Democrats are basically such ill-mannered, rude, ignorant, ill-bred, gormless, uncouth heathens they wouldn't recognize a proper respectful form of address if they heard it.

My gorm's actually a bit swollen today. Maybe some ibuprofen will help.

1226 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:35:50am

re: #1208 lawhawk

Covering their faces could also be a prelude for a violent crackdown by them.

Could be but I think they're worried about retaliation or possible prosecution. People are posting pics if the guy shooting from the militia headquarters roof. I don't think he'll survive the revolution.

1227 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:36:08am

re: #1221 MandyManners

Not in a million years.

My wife is the one that never gives in, I'm usually the easy one.

1228 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:36:32am

re: #1223 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not even going to let him think he's winning for even a second? ;)

Whiners don't win around here.

1229 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:36:48am

re: #1191 Mad Al-Jaffee

There's also all kinds of stuff online about high fructose corn syrup being an addictive poison. Usually on left wing sites. People on DU want HFCS banned.

Never going to happen. HFCS has a lobby the size of a T-rex behind it.

1230 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:37:05am

Lunchtime. Got smoked turkey and cheddar on some homemade bread. Gotta pop it into the toaster oven. Good, healthy lunch in a few!

Later!

1231 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:37:21am

re: #1222 Kosh's Shadow

I hope they're not taking a page out of Vlad Tepes' book.


I hear you, brother. I hope those guys bring their bodyguards if they show up at that meeting.

1232 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:37:22am

re: #1225 SixDegrees

My gorm's actually a bit swollen today. Maybe some ibuprofen will help.

There's a great joke in there somewhere.

1233 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:37:42am

re: #1214 jcm

If it occurs within a satellite window. Orbital mechanics, satellites are overhead for a limited time, and fuel for maneuvering is strictly limited.

Then fly over an SR-71 to film it. OH YEAH, they aren't operational anymore. Arrggghhhh!

1234 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:37:54am

re: #1228 MandyManners

Whiners don't win around here.

My three year old is beginning to learn that.

1235 debutaunt  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:37:58am

re: #1163 unrealizedviewpoint

What's wrong with me today? I keep leaving out words? If you see me do this please correct when quoting, sweetie. Thanks!

1236 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:38:21am

re: #1227 Nevergiveup

My wife is the one that never gives in, I'm usually the easy one.

Being a single parent is just fucking peachy.

1237 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:38:55am

re: #1218 FurryOldGuyJeans

49 days with hardly a drop. This is not normal for the Great NorthWet.

We've had less than a inch over the last eight months. We should have around fifteen inches by now...average annual rainfall is 32 inches.

1238 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:39:07am

re: #1219 Kenneth

More Bloodshed To Come In Iran


A pessimistic outlook. The regime has acted in the past with astonishing brutality. There can be no doubt some regime leaders a willing to do so now. The only question is why not yet? Have they been unable to find reliable thugs and get them into position?

No, they hadn't thrown out foreign journalists yet. I still think this is going to end badly and with much bloodshed.

1239 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:39:17am

re: #1234 Ford_Prefect

My three year old is beginning to learn that.

It's as hard a lesson to learn as it is to teach.

1240 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:39:56am

re: #1220 jorline Hey jorline, things could be better - how are y'all doing today?

1241 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:39:59am

re: #1233 CommonCents

Then fly over an SR-71 to film it. OH YEAH, they aren't operational anymore. Arrggghhhh!

We probably have something that replaces it. Its immediate replacement was (I think) a two-stage-to-orbit craft that was developed in the right time frame; AvLeak leaked it a couple of years ago. It has supposedly been retired, and my guess is that's because there is already a replacement for it.

But the One's not going to order or allow such a mission.

1242 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:40:36am

re: #1217 realwest

Hi jcm - what would consitute the "people winning" here, do you think?

Wide range, from major concessions by the mullahs on internal matters. To complete regime change.

It hard to say for sure, but it might settle out at a more moderate theocracy, with hardliners shifted out of the mix and social liberalizations.

From our perspective the more complete the regime change the better.

1243 3 wood  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:40:55am

Good news Cubs fans :)

The lineups are in for this afternoon's tilt with the White Sox.

Your lead off hitter is still Soriano, who has hit a stellar .137 over the last 24 games.

(For non-baseball people, 137 is real bad, especially for a lead off hitter.)

Lou Pinella has started his farewell tour as manager.

1244 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:40:57am

re: #1239 MandyManners

It's as hard a lesson to learn as it is to teach.

I think the hardest part is getting both parents, when they are there, to form a united front. They learn very quickly if they can play one off the other.

1245 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:41:04am

Fearless Persian babe of the day....

Filmed in the city of Urmia.

1246 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:41:13am
1247 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:41:28am

re: #1222 Kosh's Shadow

I hope they're not taking a page out of Vlad Tepes' book.

If they do, it would ignite a real firestorm.

1248 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:41:34am

re: #1240 realwest

Hey jorline, things could be better - how are y'all doing today?

OK...business has sucked for the last week, hope it gets better.

I read your back has been bothering you...any better?

1249 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:42:32am

re: #1243 3 wood

I'm not big on the Cubbies but it sad when the entire starting lineup is threatening the Mendoza line.

1250 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:42:54am
1251 albusteve  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:43:13am

re: #1215 redstateredneck

I'm as dry as you are.
Sorry.

we finally got a couple of good Tstorms through ABQ after 8 months...the mesas are green again and the Rio Grande is topped off nicely...life is good

1252 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:43:30am

re: #1243 3 wood

Good news Cubs fans :)

The lineups are in for this afternoon's tilt with the White Sox.

Your lead off hitter is still Soriano, who has hit a stellar .137 over the last 24 games.

(For non-baseball people, 137 is real bad, especially for a lead off hitter.)

Lou Pinella has started his farewell tour as manager.

Cubby's can still beat my Astros.

1253 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:43:42am

Khamenei risks credibility by entering political fray

“Khamenei still has lots of cards to play,” Prof. Menashri said, “but most of them involve the threat or use of force against the people.

“He can't pretend to be above it all; it's too late for that,” he said.

“But, in the name of the survival of the Islamic Republic, he might call for unity between the factions – a kind of national-unity government, with some kind of division of authority.” It's either that, or some kind of negotiated retreat, Prof. Menashri said.

“There are people who say Rafsanjani is in Qom right now, negotiating some kind of deal,” he said. The Assembly of Experts has the power to call for Ayatollah Khamenei's resignation, and Mr. Rafsanjani is its elected chairman.

The problem, says Mr. Rahnema, is that the Supreme Leader may not be making the calls any more. “The Revolutionary Guards have a lot to lose if Ahmadinejad and Khamenei fall,” he explained. “They may be pushing the Leader to take precipitous action.”

It was the support for the Guards' economic and other opportunities that gave Ayatollah Khamenei a powerful political base. But, Mr. Rahnema says, “he may have created a monster he cannot control.”

The article contains a good short history of the political battles between Khamenei and his arch rival Rafsanjani. Khamenei is not a highly qualified religious expert, but one achievement of his scholarship does stand out: he had translated the works of the radical Islamist Sayed Qutb into Persian. Qutb was the leading intellectual of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.

1254 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:43:53am

re: #1246 buzzsawmonkey

It is my understanding that high fructose corn syrup is actually more readily digestible than regular sugar (dextrose)--i.e., requiring less enzyme action--fructose being a simpler sugar molecule than dextrose.

High fructose corn syrup would thus theoretically be the healthier alternative, would it not? The hostility to it is something I find mystifying.

Sucrose is basically a combined molecule of fructose and glucose. Digesting it, IIRC, produces fructose and glucose, which are then digested.

1255 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:43:57am

re: #1243 3 wood


Bring back Sammy Sosa.

1256 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:44:14am

re: #1243 3 wood Hey there 3 wood, how are you doing today? And yet there are some folks who think that the Yankees screwed up in letting him go a few years back.

1257 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:45:03am

re: #1232 MandyManners

There's a great joke in there somewhere.

If swelling persists for more than 4 hours you are advised to seek medical attention.

1258 CommonCents  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:45:23am

re: #1255 soxfan4life

Bring back Sammy Sosa.

No more 'roiders!

1259 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:45:49am

re: #1243 3 wood

Good news Cubs fans :)

The lineups are in for this afternoon's tilt with the White Sox.

Your lead off hitter is still Soriano, who has hit a stellar .137 over the last 24 games.

(For non-baseball people, 137 is real bad, especially for a lead off hitter.)

Lou Pinella has started his farewell tour as manager.

Don't worry. I hear Pedro Martinez may be on the way.

1260 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:01am
1261 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:02am

re: #1246 buzzsawmonkey
Hey buzz - where do you think real sugar comes from and who do you think would oppose our using real sugar (as they do in Mexico) in things like coca cola?
Follow the money my friend!

1262 Windhorse  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:17am

re: #1245 Killgore Trout

...what bastards.

1263 MandyManners  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:21am

re: #1246 buzzsawmonkey

It is my understanding that high fructose corn syrup is actually more readily digestible than regular sugar (dextrose)--i.e., requiring less enzyme action--fructose being a simpler sugar molecule than dextrose.

High fructose corn syrup would thus theoretically be the healthier alternative, would it not? The hostility to it is something I find mystifying.

It has completely fucked up the taste of Doctor Pepper and Coke.

1264 jcm  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:32am

re: #1246 buzzsawmonkey

It is my understanding that high fructose corn syrup is actually more readily digestible than regular sugar (dextrose)--i.e., requiring less enzyme action--fructose being a simpler sugar molecule than dextrose.

High fructose corn syrup would thus theoretically be the healthier alternative, would it not? The hostility to it is something I find mystifying.

The thing with sugars are they are energy dense, corn syrup being very high. The body only needs so much energy on a daily basis. What's not used, is stored as fat. Additionally our bodies didn't evolve with metabolism of high sugar intake being available so it does muck with the endocrine system.

The hostility is over blown, like with everything else. MODERATION.
Virtually anything, including oxygen and water in excess can be damaging or fatal.

1265 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:38am

re: #1250 buzzsawmonkey

Start promoting those LGBT sandwiches for Gay Pride Day at the end of the month!

lol...Lesbian Gay Bacon Tomato Burgers.

The don't ask don't tell special of the month.

1266 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:46:42am
1267 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:47:01am

re: #1248 jorline Oh yeah, back is much MUCH better thanks!
How's with you (y'all can e-mail if you prefer)?

1268 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:47:02am

re: #1256 realwest

Hey there 3 wood, how are you doing today? And yet there are some folks who think that the Yankees screwed up in letting him go a few years back.


Yeah Soriano for A-Rod, that deal should have not been allowed because NY should have had to give up more talent. Oh well. Plus Soriano was a second baseman for NY so Robinson Cano wouldn't have a spot.

1269 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:47:32am
1270 Kragar  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:48:10am

Lets make Baseball actually interesting and worth watching. A few ideas of mine.

1) Full Contact
2) Keep the bat while you run
3) Randomly mine the field
4) Release wild animals such as lions, bears and tigers onto the field at random intervals

1271 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:48:12am

re: #1243 3 wood

Good news Cubs fans :)

The lineups are in for this afternoon's tilt with the White Sox.

Your lead off hitter is still Soriano, who has hit a stellar .137 over the last 24 games.

(For non-baseball people, 137 is real bad, especially for a lead off hitter.)

Lou Pinella has started his farewell tour as manager.

Really? He is wearing out his welcome?

1272 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:48:23am

re: #1246 buzzsawmonkey

It is my understanding that high fructose corn syrup is actually more readily digestible than regular sugar (dextrose)--i.e., requiring less enzyme action--fructose being a simpler sugar molecule than dextrose.

High fructose corn syrup would thus theoretically be the healthier alternative, would it not? The hostility to it is something I find mystifying.

It's all about the glycemic impact.

1273 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:48:27am

I hear the President is planning a major address where he plans to strongly condemn the evil plotters.

Sadly, the plotters he plans to condemn are Roger Ailes and Charles Krauthammer.

/

1274 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:48:30am

re: #1267 realwest

Oh yeah, back is much MUCH better thanks!
How's with you (y'all can e-mail if you prefer)?

I'm actually feeling much better...Humira is working.

1275 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:48:47am

re: #1238 realwest

That is my guess. They will shut down external communications as best they can. before they act. If the democracy activists have satellite phones, it will be impossible to shut off all contact completely. Many people probably have satellite internet connections and are now hiding their satellite dishes.

1276 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:49:00am

re: #1260 buzzsawmonkey

Since starting with fructose in the form of HFCS takes away the necessity for the body doing the initial breakdown, one would think it would be "better" for you--certainly no worse than regular sugar.

I think so. It has been a long time since I took biology.
I think the same people complaining about fructose were complaining about sucrose when it was used more commonly.
Too much sugar isn't such a great idea, but some of these people go too far with it.
BTW, I rarely have soda any more; mostly ice water.

1277 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:49:32am

re: #1270 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Lets make Baseball actually interesting and worth watching. A few ideas of mine.

1) Full Contact
2) Keep the bat while you run
3) Randomly mine the field
4) Release wild animals such as lions, bears and tigers onto the field at random intervals

you obviously have never seen a Red Sox/Yankee game.

1278 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:49:40am

re: #1256 realwest

Hey there 3 wood, how are you doing today? And yet there are some folks who think that the Yankees screwed up in letting him go a few years back.

Pinella or Soriano?

1279 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:49:52am

re: #1265 jorline

lol...Lesbian Gay Bacon Tomato Burgers.

The don't ask don't tell special of the month.


ROTFLMAO!

1280 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:50:10am

re: #1263 MandyManners

It has completely fucked up the taste of Doctor Pepper and Coke.

Yes, fructose tastes different.
Somewhere, I saw kits to make your own sodas. No caffeine, though.

1281 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:50:33am

re: #1271 Nevergiveup

Really? He is wearing out his welcome?


If it could happen to Joe Torre it could happen to anybody.

1282 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:50:41am

re: #1268 soxfan4life

Yeah Soriano for A-Rod, that deal should have not been allowed because NY should have had to give up more talent. Oh well. Plus Soriano was a second baseman for NY so Robinson Cano wouldn't have a spot.

Soriano would have been moved to the OutField and I'd love to have Soriano and not the headache known as A-Rod.

1283 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:51:07am

re: #1270 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Lets make Baseball actually interesting and worth watching. A few ideas of mine.

1) Full Contact
2) Keep the bat while you run
3) Randomly mine the field
4) Release wild animals such as lions, bears and tigers onto the field at random intervals

Arm the players.
/////

1284 Kragar  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:51:15am

re: #1277 Ford_Prefect

you obviously have never seen a Red Sox/Yankee game.

I only watch sports when I need to take a nap

1285 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:51:26am

re: #1281 soxfan4life

If it could happen to Joe Torre it could happen to anybody.

Yeah many people in NY and I think on the Yanks are regretting that

1286 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:51:54am

re: #1274 jorline Very glad to hear that great news!

1287 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:52:24am

re: #1200 wrenchwench

LOL. How old is he?

He's nine....
Played with a lighter the other day...
Yep....Had a visit from the Fire Dept...

1288 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:52:54am

re: #1282 Nevergiveup


The Yankee lineup has improved tremendously since Mr. April/ Ms. October has returned from his injury rehab. I see solid numbers right up until the post season starts.

1289 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:53:15am

re: #1278 Nevergiveup
Ah, geeze, now I gotta think again! Soriano!

1290 filetandrelease  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:53:34am

re: #1237 jorline

We've had less than a inch over the last eight months. We should have around fifteen inches by now...average annual rainfall is 32 inches.

I think we got that last week.

1291 John Neverbend  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:53:34am

re: #712 wahabicorridor

Ok, this is hilarious in a sick sort of way, if you love to laugh at the French.

Yes, I do love to laugh at the French, although I haven't yet gone much beyond the Battle of Agincourt.

1292 Kenneth  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:53:52am

When experts have nothing to say:

"It's just too early to say but my expertise tells me what is going on is extremely interesting."

Thank you, Mr. Expert!

1293 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:54:00am

re: #1265 jorline

lol...Lesbian Gay Bacon Tomato Burgers.

The don't ask don't tell special of the month.

Lettuce, Gouda, Bacon and Tomato?

1294 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:54:04am

re: #1288 soxfan4life

The Yankee lineup has improved tremendously since Mr. April/ Ms. October has returned from his injury rehab. I see solid numbers right up until the post season starts.

Or the Red Sox come to town.

1295 Bear  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:54:07am

Morning all.
What is the latest on Iran? I can't get TV or radio here.

1296 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:54:27am

re: #1288 soxfan4life

The Yankee lineup has improved tremendously since Mr. April/ Ms. October has returned from his injury rehab. I see solid numbers right up until the post season starts.

Since he has gotten here we have won what exactly?

1297 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:55:15am

re: #1285 Nevergiveup

Yeah many people in NY and I think on the Yanks are regretting that

Yep, I sure am - as is, I'd wager, Derek Jeter!

1298 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:55:22am

re: #1287 reloadingisnotahobby

He's nine....
Played with a lighter the other day...
Yep....Had a visit from the Fire Dept...

Keeps you young, eh?

1299 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:55:45am

re: #1296 Nevergiveup

Since he has gotten here we have won what exactly?


He won an MVP, but your team hasn't won. I'm thinking Reggies title as Mr. October is safe for a while.

1300 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:56:23am

re: #1297 realwest

Yep, I sure am - as is, I'd wager, Derek Jeter!

Not so sure what Jeter's perceptions of Girardi are, but I am sure Jeter is the least of his problems

1301 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:56:59am

re: #1299 soxfan4life

He won an MVP, but your team hasn't won. I'm thinking Reggies title as Mr. October is safe for a while.

A-Rod is a curse and as long as he is here, we ain't gonna win

1302 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:57:09am

re: #1270 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Lets make Baseball actually interesting and worth watching. A few ideas of mine.

1) Full Contact
2) Keep the bat while you run
3) Randomly mine the field
4) Release wild animals such as lions, bears and tigers onto the field at random intervals

I certainly watch. How they cram 3 minutes of action into 3 hours I don't know.

1303 Bear  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:57:55am

Woops. See a new thread about Iran. Going there.

1304 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:58:18am

re: #1297 realwest


Just think for every Yankee fan too young to remember George's beginning with the Yankees they get to live it with Hank in charge. Maybe Girardi will be Hank's Billy Martin.

1305 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:58:35am

re: #1263 MandyManners

It has completely fucked up the taste of Doctor Pepper and Coke.

You can still get Coke made with sucrose, at least around Jewish holidays. Corn syrup apparently isn't Kosher, but cane sugar is fine, and Coca Cola accommodates this by bottling it's product made with cane sugar in 2-liter bottles. The cap is yellow instead of red. If your local store doesn't carry it, you can ask the manager to get some for you.

Corn syrup is used otherwise because it's cheap and abundantly available. But as far as metabolism, they're both so similar as to be identical.

1306 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:58:35am

re: #1300 Nevergiveup

Not so sure what Jeter's perceptions of Girardi are, but I am sure Jeter is the least of his problems

Well based on what 3 wood said about Girardi when he was a head coach and would give tips to other managers about his own team, I'd wager Jeter misses Torre a lot.

1307 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:58:49am

re: #1301 Nevergiveup

A-Rod is a curse and as long as he is here, we ain't gonna win

See, the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees and got cursed.
Then they traded A-rod to the Yankees, and the curse got reversed.
May A-Rod have a long and "productive" career with the Yankees.
-- A Red Sox fan.

1308 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:59:04am

re: #1298 wrenchwench

Yep.....
He learned a valuable lesson we hope!
I know most of the Fire Dept Volunteers..........
Embarrassing

1309 John Neverbend  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:59:05am

re: #1270 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Lets make Baseball actually interesting and worth watching. A few ideas of mine.

1) Full Contact
2) Keep the bat while you run
3) Randomly mine the field
4) Release wild animals such as lions, bears and tigers onto the field at random intervals

Damn good idea. Also, see Futurama's "Blernsball". There may be an initial ad, but the episode should show up.

[Link: www.viddler.com...]

1310 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:59:20am

re: #1304 soxfan4life

Just think for every Yankee fan too young to remember George's beginning with the Yankees they get to live it with Hank in charge. Maybe Girardi will be Hank's Billy Martin.

I still love the clips of George firing Martin at the press conference for announcing that they had rehired him.

1311 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 9:59:52am

re: #1305 SixDegrees

You can still get Coke made with sucrose, at least around Jewish holidays. Corn syrup apparently isn't Kosher, but cane sugar is fine, and Coca Cola accommodates this by bottling it's product made with cane sugar in 2-liter bottles. The cap is yellow instead of red. If your local store doesn't carry it, you can ask the manager to get some for you.

Corn syrup is used otherwise because it's cheap and abundantly available. But as far as metabolism, they're both so similar as to be identical.

And corn syrup is used in the US because of sugar "support" from the government, raising the price of sugar, while farm supports lower the price of corn products.

1312 turn  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:00:08am

re: #1297 realwest

Check your email buddy, bbiaw

1313 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:00:19am

re: #1304 soxfan4life
Nah, as much as a pain in the ass as Martin was as a manager he always wanted to win SO MUCH. Not sure I'd say the same about Giradi.

1314 jorline  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:00:34am

re: #1293 Creeping Eruption

Lettuce, Gouda, Bacon and Tomato?

Just as long as it doesn't have arougala.

1315 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:01:31am

re: #1311 Kosh's Shadow

And corn syrup is used in the US because of sugar "support" from the government, raising the price of sugar, while farm supports lower the price of corn products.


BINGO!

1316 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:02:14am

re: #1304 soxfan4life

Just think for every Yankee fan too young to remember George's beginning with the Yankees they get to live it with Hank in charge. Maybe Girardi will be Hank's Billy Martin.

Hank really isn't in charge, it seems his more level headed brother is

1317 realwest  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:02:52am

Well you all it's been grand but I gotta run now. Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

1318 John Neverbend  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:03:18am

re: #1307 Kosh's Shadow

Then they traded A-rod to the Yankees, and the curse got reversed.

In which parallel universe did that occur?

1319 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:06:00am

re: #1318 John Neverbend

In which parallel universe did that occur?

Do I have the timing wrong? Or was it that the Sox never got A-rod?
I follow the games but not the trades that much; I do remember talk about A-rod and the Sox from a few years ago.

1320 soxfan4life  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:09:27am

re: #1319 Kosh's Shadow

Do I have the timing wrong? Or was it that the Sox never got A-rod?
I follow the games but not the trades that much; I do remember talk about A-rod and the Sox from a few years ago.

The Sox were going to trade Manny Ramirez for him, but didn't make the deal then the Yankees traded Soriano and had the big press conference with Cashman saying the Red Sox talk about things but we go the extra mile for our fans.

1321 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:09:55am

re: #1319 Kosh's Shadow

Do I have the timing wrong? Or was it that the Sox never got A-rod?
I follow the games but not the trades that much; I do remember talk about A-rod and the Sox from a few years ago.

They almost traded Manny Ramirez for A-Rod but it fell through, thank God.


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