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Our latest hate mail (out of eight so far today) is this perplexingly erudite batch of weird insults, from a reader in Phoenix, Arizona, titled “your blog” (whenever I see a title like that in my inbox I know I’m about to be called some names):

you sir, are an esotericist, literalist and fussbudget. Lighten up. Not
all Christians are lurking around the corner to chop off your head.

I have to admit, that’s more creative than the usual run of the mill “douchebag Hitler ponytailed RINO” stuff I get. According to Wikipedia, “esotericist” means this guy thinks I’m a witch, a Freemason, a mesmerist, or a theosophist.

Groovy. I’ve always wanted to be able to mesmerize the unsuspecting masses.

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277 comments
1 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:47:05pm

Double, double toil and trouble!

2 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:47:38pm

Literalist. What a burn!!

3 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:48:11pm

And as a master mesmerist, you doubtless can make a mesmerized maiden squawk like a chicken!

4 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:49:26pm

A Witch?
Let's see you twitch your nose!
*Why do I look like a rabbit right now?*

5 bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:49:38pm

Ha! The truth comes out.

Me knew you was a Sorcerer.

6 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:49:40pm

Reza was mesmerized

7 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:50:00pm

To be called a esotericist is actually a compliment among the people I hang out with. Congratulations. Literalist and fussbudget, no so much.

8 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:50:16pm

I think that "fussbudget" tag is going to be as lonely as the "oligarhy" one.

9 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:50:30pm

The Fool in Phoenix knows nothing of esotericism. I could show him, but it would likely drive him mad.

10 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:50:43pm

When Harry Truman rebuilt the White House back in the late 1940s, all kinds of masonic symbols were discovered inscribed in the foundations. All of the Founders were freemasons, so you're in good company there.

It's useful to belong to a secret society when you're conspiring against the Crown!

11 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:33pm

Fussbudget.

I'm sure that's a devastating insult in the break room at Circuit City.

/SNL

12 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:49pm

re: #1 quickjustice

Double, double toil and trouble!

Double, double, with onions.
/Still stuck in the last thread.

13 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:04pm

Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling (a very upfront Republican) says he wants to run for Ted kennedy's senate seat in Massachusetts. THAT could be fun!

14 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:05pm

We are all Fussbudget

15 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:09pm

For some reason, whatever follows "You sir," these days is rarely a compliment.

16 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:21pm

Not to be too literal, but isn't it technically a warlock? Or are you really Charlene? ;-)

17 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:53:15pm
18 3 Sigma E  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:53:19pm

re: #16 quickjustice

Not to be too literal, but isn't it technically a warlock? Or are you really Charlene? ;-)

Considering he's been called a fussbudget, maybe he's really Lucy.

19 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:53:30pm

FEAR THE LIZARD RULER IN HIS DARK CAVE OF MAGIC!!!

HE WILL TURN YOU INTO A NEWT!

YOU WILL NOT GET BETTER!

YOU WILL STAY A NEWT!!!

20 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:53:44pm

Or was it "bubble, bubble, toil and trouble"? The Three Weird Sisters. MacBeth. He was no true Scotsman, I can tell you!

21 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:02pm

What the frak is a fussbudget? Or am I missing something here?

22 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:10pm

re: #14 Bagua

We are all Fussbudget

All your fussbudget belong to us.

23 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:27pm
24 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:29pm

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

The question is, Charles--do you support the Balanced Fussbudget Amendment?

Isn't that Graham Rude Man?

25 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:37pm

re: #13 _RememberTonyC

Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling (a very upfront Republican) says he wants to run for Ted kennedy's senate seat in Massachusetts. THAT could be fun!

Really! Fun indeed.

26 badger1970  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:58pm

re: #15 jaunte

Usually followed by a glove slap.

27 3 Sigma E  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:55:08pm

re: #13 _RememberTonyC

Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling (a very upfront Republican) says he wants to run for Ted kennedy's senate seat in Massachusetts. THAT could be fun!

I've never cheered for someone from the Red Sox before.

28 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:55:09pm

re: #14 Bagua

We are all Fussbudget

All your fussbudget are belong to us, rather.

29 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:55:14pm

re: #22 CyanSnowHawk

All your fussbudget belong to us.

We have only just begun to fussbudget!

30 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:55:19pm

I'm sorry, Charles but, I pounded the table and I roared with laughter as I read that first sentence. I've not even read the second sentence yet.

31 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:55:20pm

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

FEAR THE LIZARD RULER IN HIS DARK CAVE OF MAGIC!!!

HE WILL TURN YOU INTO A NEWT!

YOU WILL NOT GET BETTER!

YOU WILL STAY A NEWT!!!

Could you email Charles for me? Typing with split hooves is a real bitch...
Stop the Magic!

32 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:56:20pm

re: #27 3 Sigma E

I've never cheered for someone from the Red Sox before.

take a xanax and try it once ... I promise it WILL get easier

33 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:56:27pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Fuss: commotion or bustle
Budget: Fr.: bouget, (diminutive leather bag)
A bag of worries to be dipped into on occasion.

34 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:56:41pm

re: #14 Bagua

We are all Fussbudget

I'm a fussbudget.

35 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:56:48pm
Ask not what your fussbudget can do for you, ask what you can do for your fussbudget

immortal words.

36 esch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:09pm

re: #16 quickjustice

Not to be too literal, but isn't it technically a warlock? Or are you really Charlene? ;-)

According to my Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft, no.

37 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:10pm
38 3 Sigma E  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:19pm

Better an esotericist than an eco-terrorist.

39 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:34pm

Fusspot is the Birtish alternative to Fussbudget.

Reminds me of the 2 hookers standing on the streetcorner,

H1 : You ever been picked up by the fusspot ?

H2 : Nope, but I've been swung by the sweater puppies.

40 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:39pm

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

a newt WOW I always wanted th be a gingrich

41 3 Sigma E  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:51pm

To fussbudget or not to fussbudget. That is the question.

42 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:58:05pm

I was golfing on Key Biscayne years ago when large green iguanas started falling out of the palm trees all over the golf course. There had been a cold snap, and they were comatose. They did start to recover as the warm sun bathed them.

43 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:58:07pm

That's a far more entertaining email than what I usually get. Except today I got comment on my blog from the author of the book I'm currently reading, Atomic Awakening. He basically said if I had any questions, to send them his way and he'll answer 'em.

44 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:58:07pm

Don't these dickheads know anything.
If they wanted to really insult Charles they'd call him a John Birch Creationist Truther who rides with training wheels and lives in his mother's basement

or Rodan for short

45 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:58:29pm

re: #36 esch

So what's the difference?

46 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:58:41pm

Deficit worrying throws fussbudgetry to the winds.

47 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:58:52pm

Never blame on malice what can be attributed to a fussbudget.

48 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:59:19pm

re: #21 lawhawk

What the frak is a fussbudget? Or am I missing something here?


Fussbudget

49 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:59:20pm

re: #43 lawhawk

That's a far more entertaining email than what I usually get. Except today I got comment on my blog from the author of the book I'm currently reading, Atomic Awakening. He basically said if I had any questions, to send them his way and he'll answer 'em.

That's way cool!

50 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:59:40pm

Esoterocism doesn't only refer to witchcraft. I think its about an having a keen sense of noticing subtle things and seeing patterns when most look right past the same information and don't even notice it.

51 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:59:58pm

This is the funniest thread Ive seen on here in days.

52 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:00:03pm

re: #50 Mich-again

Esoterocism doesn't only refer to witchcraft. I think its about an having a keen sense of noticing subtle things and seeing patterns when most look right past the same information and don't even notice it.


I missed that

53 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:00:09pm

I'm seething, I never get any hate mail. Nobody cares enough...

54 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:00:15pm

re: #10 quickjustice

All of the Founders were freemasons


eh

55 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:00:58pm

re: #54 SpaceJesus

eh

soteric!

/HTH

56 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:10pm

re: #53 Bagua

I'm seething, I never get any hate mail. Nobody cares enough...

if you'd like one of us to cuss at you, say the word. we're here for you if you need us

57 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:23pm

re: #53 Bagua

I'm seething, I never get any hate mail. Nobody cares enough...

Blue your nic sometime!

/

58 3 Sigma E  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:32pm

re: #50 Mich-again

Esoterocism doesn't only refer to witchcraft. I think its about an having a keen sense of noticing subtle things and seeing patterns when most look right past the same information and don't even notice it.

I think, in general, it would be being in an expert in some narrow, little-known subject.

59 esch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:48pm

re: #45 quickjustice

So what's the difference?

Well, for what little I know about it, historically both sexes were regarded as Witches.

Rowling really screwed up the whole thing.

60 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:52pm

re: #53 Bagua

I'm seething, I never get any hate mail. Nobody cares enough...

I HATE YOU!
/Feel better now? Smoothie?

61 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:53pm

re: #50 Mich-again

Esoterocism doesn't only refer to witchcraft. I think its about an having a keen sense of noticing subtle things and seeing patterns when most look right past the same information and don't even notice it.

Like Shawn Spencer.

62 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:01:57pm

re: #56 _RememberTonyC

if you'd like one of us to cuss at you, say the word. we're here for you if you need us

I think he's a snot-nosed heap of parrot droppings, don't you?

/

63 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:02:06pm

Hey, would you like to fuss my budget sometime?

Good pick up line.

64 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:02:08pm

re: #57 OldLineTexan

Blue your nic sometime!


That's disgusting!

Isn't it?

65 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:02:25pm

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

66 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:02:59pm

re: #10 quickjustice

All of the Founders were freemasons,

Free, that's bull, I had John Hancock do some stonework and they sent me a big bill.

67 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:03pm

re: #62 OldLineTexan

I think he's a snot-nosed heap of parrot droppings, don't you?

/

and a pus bag too /

68 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:09pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Done twice on two previous threads.

69 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:13pm

re: #59 esch

Well, for what little I know about it, historically both sexes were regarded as Witches.

Rowling really screwed up the whole thing.

That separate distinction by gender was in place long before JK came along.

70 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:16pm

re: #64 Coracle

That's disgusting!

Isn't it?

Only if you do it right.

71 jim in virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:19pm

I think I know what a sophist is but WTF is a theosophist?
BTW I understand your family has always been interested in sects. One of your sisters is a proselyte. Another is a thespian who performed the act before paying customers. And you, sir, emulated older boys when you were a teenager. Your parents encouraged you to masticate. And in college you became a philatelist.

72 lincolntf  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:29pm

re: #13 _RememberTonyC

I really hope he does. I have to be honest about the state of the State and say that I don't think he'll win, but the campaign alone would be great. He's always been what people here might call "snarky" with his answers/commentary about politics. I assume you've heard him on WEEI, etc.
If he can keep his cool during all the stupid crap he'll have to listen to from the Deval crowd (and the Broadsheet Boneheads), he'll have the opportunity to get off some good lines. In a real debate, I don't know how he'd do against a pro politician.

73 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:44pm

re: #70 OldLineTexan

In bed.

74 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:58pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

that sounds like NEA teacher speak but can johnny even read?

75 badger1970  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:05pm

On the Sept. 8th thingy IAW the Wash Post.

Among the activities the government was suggesting for pre-kindergarten to sixth grade students: that they "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." By Wednesday evening, the sentence asking children to think about how they can "help the president" had been removed from the document.

I guess bo got a lot of mail.

76 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:09pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

There's that change everybody was hoping for.

77 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:18pm
“esotericist” means this guy thinks I’m a witch, a Freemason, a mesmerist, or a theosophist.

Cy Williams is the #4 greatest home run hitter of all time. Williams ranks fourth all time in career HR divided by the league average based on outs. He actually ranks second based on plate appearances.

But you knew that, didn't you? You esotericist fussbudget, you.

Wiki: Esotericism, beside its scholarly and dictionary definitions, can be used in a loose, popular sense: not in order to denote e.g. mystical knowledge or practice, but rather informally to mean any perception or knowledge that is for the advanced individual such as theoretical physics, or that pertains to the minutiae of a particular discipline, such as "esoteric" baseball statistics.

I can't stand people who know shit like this. I shall have to write you a hate letter, Charles.

/

78 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:19pm

re: #53 Bagua

I'm seething, I never get any hate mail. Nobody cares enough...

How about some hall sex?

"FUCK YOU!"

79 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:26pm

re: #71 jim in virginia

I think I know what a sophist is but WTF is a theosophist?


A godlike sophist.

80 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:42pm

re: #56 _RememberTonyC

if you'd like one of us to cuss at you, say the word. we're here for you if you need us

Actually, no problems with the comments, I get lots of cussings from Ludwig, it's the emails I dont receive.

81 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:12pm

re: #72 lincolntf

I really hope he does. I have to be honest about the state of the State and say that I don't think he'll win, but the campaign alone would be great. He's always been what people here might call "snarky" with his answers/commentary about politics. I assume you've heard him on WEEI, etc.
If he can keep his cool during all the stupid crap he'll have to listen to from the Deval crowd (and the Broadsheet Boneheads), he'll have the opportunity to get off some good lines. In a real debate, I don't know how he'd do against a pro politician.

i can already see him saying he didn't need government health care when he got stitched up in 2004 and gutted it out in the "bloody sock" game.

82 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:16pm

re: #78 MandyManners

Crap, now I'm just jealous of Bagua, rather than merely h8ing on him.

/

83 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:23pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

Hey, cool! So they clarified the point that got most people upset. Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

84 jamgarr  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:40pm

re: #1 quickjustice

Double, double toil and trouble!

Something esoteric this way comes

85 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:41pm

re: #78 MandyManners

mandy you need to do better than that I am disapointed

86 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:41pm

Blavatski-ist!

Theosophy is a doctrine of religious philosophy and metaphysics originating with Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831–91). In this context, theosophy holds that all religions are attempts by the "Spiritual Hierarchy" to help humanity in evolving to greater perfection, and that each religion therefore has a portion of the truth.[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
87 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:45pm

One of the latest innocent victims of Charles's evil esotericism. The horror on the poor girl's face is palpable!!

88 esch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:55pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

I was just discussing this with the wife and we had decided to let our 2 kids go, and watch it ourselves online to rebut later if necessary. I agree with Charles that if this does encourage certain minorities to work harder in school, it's worth it.

89 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:06:02pm

re: #57 OldLineTexan

Blue your nic sometime!

/

What be this "blue" nic of which you speak? Yet more sekret features?

90 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:06:17pm

re: #83 Charles

The people with ODS will still seethe.

91 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:06:28pm

re: #80 Bagua

Actually, no problems with the comments, I get lots of cussings from Ludwig, it's the emails I dont receive.

We don't know your e-mail address, you incredibly obligated ornamental shrub decorated with the foul leavings of migratory syphilis-laden buzzards.

/

92 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:06:54pm

Oh my gosh.

Charles has a ponytail?

93 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:06pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

PRESIDENT OBAMA DELIVERS NATIONAL ADDRESS TO AMERICA’S SCHOOCHILDREN
ed.gov site misspelled schoolchildren. LOL

94 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:07pm

Esotericist, literal, fussbudget Charles,
Received a great deal of hate-mail and snarls.
The ones most chagrined were the former star posters
Who left, or were banned, for being sad boasters,
Or wingbats, or haters, or baiters, or trolls.
They opened their own site, took strays in, held polls,
And soon made up things that would make you turn pale
About all of the bad stuff the lizards did. Fail.
You can't make this crap up. There were dust-ups and stuff.
Some people got booted. Some left in a huff.
Now they sit there and stew like old women in mourning
For all of the karma they lost without warning.
Long may they sit there, and long may they stew,
Sorry people with nothing but poison to brew.

95 lincolntf  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:12pm

re: #81 _RememberTonyC

And HuffPo will "expose" that he painted on the blood, like that commentator did (who was that, do you recall?) a couple years back.

96 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:23pm

re: #53 Bagua

I'm seething, I never get any hate mail. Nobody cares enough...

Send me your email, I'll sign you up for the hate mail of the month club.

97 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:26pm

re: #68 Coracle

Done twice on two previous threads.

Oh. oops. 'scuse me. That's the first I saw of it.

98 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:40pm

re: #91 OldLineTexan

We don't know your e-mail address, you incredibly obligated ornamental shrub decorated with the foul leavings of migratory syphilis-laden buzzards.

/

that was really creative ...

99 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:50pm

OK this is now the coolest video I have ever seen on this topic.. I have favorited it for future use.

We are all going to Hell

Slight language warning - but well worth it.

Youtube Video
100 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:07:53pm
101 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:08:00pm

re: #89 Bagua

What be this "blue" nic of which you speak? Yet more sekret features?

Esoteric, even. ;)

In the new comment box, if you check "Show email", yer nic will turn blue, and Lizards can e-mail you some pithy insults!

/Charles has menny sekrits

102 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:08:08pm

re: #94 Cato the Elder

Frickin' fantastic Cato.

103 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:08:25pm

re: #78 MandyManners

How about some hall sex?

"FUCK YOU!"

ooow, I feel good!

Hate mail does make me feel special too!

104 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:08:40pm

re: #83 Charles

Hey, cool! So they clarified the point that got most people upset. Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

You're not messing with me, are you?

I think it's great. In fact, it's similar to what I said I thought it ought to be on the previous thread.

105 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:08:54pm

re: #95 lincolntf

And HuffPo will "expose" that he painted on the blood, like that commentator did (who was that, do you recall?) a couple years back.

sounds like something tim mccarver would have said

106 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:08:56pm

re: #64 Coracle

That's disgusting!

Isn't it?

Good to see you buddy - are we going to hell yet?

107 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:09:04pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

Those who disagree, don't know any better. Remember where March of Dimes came from. Unicef> Every kid, I knew went door to door.

108 Erik The Red  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:09:05pm

re: #94 Cato the Elder

Esotericist, literal, fussbudget Charles,
Received a great deal of hate-mail and snarls.
The ones most chagrined were the former star posters
Who left, or were banned, for being sad boasters,
Or wingbats, or haters, or baiters, or trolls.
They opened their own site, took strays in, held polls,
And soon made up things that would make you turn pale
About all of the bad stuff the lizards did. Fail.
You can't make this crap up. There were dust-ups and stuff.
Some people got booted. Some left in a huff.
Now they sit there and stew like old women in mourning
For all of the karma they lost without warning.
Long may they sit there, and long may they stew,
Sorry people with nothing but poison to brew.

100% for effort and creativity.

109 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:09:15pm

re: #98 _RememberTonyC

that was really creative ...

hang out some night when i go into blank verse mode

/

110 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:09:16pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed. But Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

111 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:09:44pm

re: #98 _RememberTonyC

or he could have just called him a congresscritter for short.

112 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:09:50pm

re: #106 LudwigVanQuixote

Good to see you buddy - are we going to hell yet?

Dunno ... hot enough for ya?

/

113 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:10:12pm

It's all cover. They're taking Biden back to repeat 12th grade.

114 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:10:15pm

re: #103 Bagua

ooow, I feel good!

Hate mail does make me feel special too!

Curls yer toes, eh?

115 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:10:21pm

re: #109 OldLineTexan

hang out some night when i go into blank verse mode

/

is that like pornographic haiku?

116 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:10:55pm

re: #94 Cato the Elder

Esotericist, literal, fussbudget Charles,
Received a great deal of hate-mail and snarls.
The ones most chagrined were the former star posters
Who left, or were banned, for being sad boasters,
Or wingbats, or haters, or baiters, or trolls.
They opened their own site, took strays in, held polls,
And soon made up things that would make you turn pale
About all of the bad stuff the lizards did. Fail.
You can't make this crap up. There were dust-ups and stuff.
Some people got booted. Some left in a huff.
Now they sit there and stew like old women in mourning
For all of the karma they lost without warning.
Long may they sit there, and long may they stew,
Sorry people with nothing but poison to brew.

You are going to hell for that!!! I rebuke you!!! AND I REBUKE YOUR TINKIE WINKIE TOO!!! YOU ADMIT YOU LIKE LATIN AND THAT COMMIE JOYCE AND HIS UNCLEAN BOOKS!!! I REBUKE YOU!!!

Youtube Video
117 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:10:57pm

re: #113 SasquatchOnSteroids

It's all cover. They're taking Biden back to repeat 12th grade.

Good. The Kid needs training on how to kick ass and take lunch money.

118 esch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:10:57pm

re: #69 CyanSnowHawk

Yes. The naming conventions vary by tradition, though. Of which there are plenty.

In the interests of full disclosure, it's been a good 20 years since I studied any of the pagan works. So it's fuzzy.

119 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:00pm

re: #113 SasquatchOnSteroids

i did not know he got that far WHO KNEW?

120 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:09pm

re: #115 _RememberTonyC

is that like pornographic haiku?

In bed.

121 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:09pm

re: #112 OldLineTexan

Dunno ... hot enough for ya?

/

Give it 100 years :)

122 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:12pm

re: #113 SasquatchOnSteroids

It's all cover. They're taking Biden back to repeat 12th grade.

He's probably taking the same girl to prom too...

123 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:20pm

re: #106 LudwigVanQuixote

Good to see you buddy - are we going to hell yet?

Ha! We don't believe in hell. But I'm not sure what we're doing in this handbasket.

124 Bagua  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:24pm

re: #114 MandyManners

Curls yer toes, eh?

Yep!

125 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:28pm

re: #115 _RememberTonyC

is that like pornographic haiku?

now thats something i havent tried

/probably have to wait until after 10pm pacific

126 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:43pm

re: #93 Bobblehead

PRESIDENT OBAMA DELIVERS NATIONAL ADDRESS TO AMERICA’S SCHOOCHILDREN
ed.gov site misspelled schoolchildren. LOL

that's how they write it for the TOTUS

127 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:51pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

You're not messing with me, are you?

I think it's great. In fact, it's similar to what I said I thought it ought to be on the previous thread.

It was such a volatile subject before, I was shaky about whether or not to post that.

128 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:53pm

re: #91 OldLineTexan

We don't know your e-mail address, you incredibly obligated ornamental shrub decorated with the foul leavings of migratory syphilis-laden buzzards.

/


Hanszenite.

129 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:11:55pm

re: #116 LudwigVanQuixote

Tinky-Winky?

You're rebuking a Teletubbie?

130 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:05pm

re: #58 3 Sigma E

I think, in general, it would be being in an expert in some narrow, little-known subject.

Yeah that's better. And when people are very knowledgeable in a subject they can explain it in simple terms.

131 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:10pm

re: #126 Shug

that's how they write it for the TOTUS

Be coo, stay in schoo.

/

132 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:11pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

That's a huge improvement.

133 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:20pm

re: #120 MandyManners

In bed.

this has the potential to degenerate really quickly ... i like when that happens :)

134 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:31pm

re: #100 taxfreekiller

From our back porch, this sun set,
a bit troubling, very diffused light,
very red, the whole horizon , north to south,

Poetry night on LGF.

That read very nicely, TFK.

135 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:36pm

re: #83 Charles

No, it should. What keeps making me chuckle is that they keep making these kinds of errors, omissions, and other nonsensical errors in routine items such as this particular speaking engagement. They could have kept it short and sweet, but whoever writes this stuff for the Administration can't help but include this stuff, which is sure to get the right in a tizzy (occasionally rightfully so, but not in this instance).

136 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:38pm

re: #128 Jim in Virginia

Hanszenite.

That would be cowbirds, in my case.

137 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:54pm

re: #92 fat bastard vegetarian

Oh my gosh.

Charles has a ponytail?


Yes. Obviously a RINO.

138 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:12:59pm

"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

This keeps getting more and more bizarre everyday.

139 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:13:31pm

re: #125 OldLineTexan

now thats something i havent tried

/probably have to wait until after 10pm pacific

hah ...

140 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:13:44pm

re: #123 Coracle

Ha! We don't believe in hell. But I'm not sure what we're doing in this handbasket.

We are reveling in the esoteric secrets that Charles will reveal at the end times as the black helicopters come bearing the whore of Babylon and all...

That and he is a such a fussbucket.

HELL I SAY!!! GOING TO HELLL!!!

Youtube Video
141 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:13:47pm

re: #121 LudwigVanQuixote

Give it 100 years :)

i love it when a reference joke is caught

/let me buy you a virtual beer

142 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:13:48pm

re: #138 ted

"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

This keeps getting more and more bizarre everyday.

What's wrong with that?

143 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:13:54pm

re: #138 ted

"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

This keeps getting more and more bizarre everyday.

You have a problem with goal-setting and memos to self...why, exactly?

144 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:14:20pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

The Push-Back works.

145 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:14:20pm

re: #127 reine.de.tout

I think it was an interesting update but NRO's claim of victory is kinda stupid...

It looks like somebody at the Department of Education woke up, smelled the coffee, and realized they would have a lot of angry parents on their hands if homework assignments included requirements to pledge to help the Obama administration. In light of this, I expect the president's remarks will be pretty uncontroversial. But this legitimizes quite a bit of conservatives' skepticism and wariness, because it means some folks in the Department of Education didn't realize what an atrocious and inappropriate idea it was.

Seething works.

146 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:06pm

re: #138 ted

"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

This keeps getting more and more bizarre everyday.

I don't understand. What's wrong with that ?

147 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:12pm

Your mother was a 'Teppo and your father was v.d. infected dutch sailor.

148 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:26pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly gee, I don't know whether to open this can of worms or not.
It appears the lesson plan has been changed.

"Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President", has been changed to:
"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".


The "letters to themselves about how they can help the president" is creepy. Why is everything always about Obama? Do the kids matter?
This change is a step in the right direction.

149 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:29pm

re: #137 Jim in Virginia

Yes. Obviously a RINO.

Hippie.

150 Dekar  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:30pm

Why is freemason included in the list of definitions

151 lincolntf  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:45pm

re: #105 _RememberTonyC

It does. Or Joe Carter.
Turns out it was O's announcer Gary Thorne. I forgot that he claimed Doug Mirabelli told him the story. Hosiery hijinks!

152 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:15:46pm

An esotericist AND a literalist?

So, apparently, Charles is both a holder of secret and arcane knowledge, often mystical, while at the same time being overly literal: 1. Adherence to the explicit sense of a given text or doctrine.
2. Literal portrayal; realism.

Not sure whether to go with VOCABULARY FAIL or INSULT FAIL here. Let's split the difference and go with both.

Sounds to me like Charles' fond correspondent is a graduate of Humpty Dumpty Troll University:

“When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.”

153 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:16:46pm

re: #88 esch

I was just discussing this with the wife and we had decided to let our 2 kids go, and watch it ourselves online to rebut later if necessary. I agree with Charles that if this does encourage certain minorities to work harder in school, it's worth it.

And I think there's no doubt that there is a certain segment of schoolkids, minority or not, who will be positively affected by the President's attention.

But this piece of the lesson plan was one I had a particular issue with -if the point is to encourage a child to study harder, stay in school, then this activity is a much better plan, imo, than asking kids what they can do to help the President.

154 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:16:49pm

re: #149 fat bastard vegetarian

Hippie.

in name only

a "hino"

or a faux hippy ... a fippy

or an esoteric hippy ... an erippy

/gotta go, bbl maybe

/hi FBV!

155 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:09pm

re: #150 Dekar

Why is freemason included in the list of definitions

they know sekrit stuffs

156 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:15pm

re: #116 LudwigVanQuixote

You are going to hell for that!!! I rebuke you!!! AND I REBUKE YOUR TINKIE WINKIE TOO!!! YOU ADMIT YOU LIKE LATIN AND THAT COMMIE JOYCE AND HIS UNCLEAN BOOKS!!! I REBUKE YOU!!!

Something truly funny is that Thomas Merton credited James Joyce in part with his conversion to Catholicism.

Of course, I've had people tell me that Merton was a commie.

157 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:20pm

Esoterocist... one with the power to remove age spots...

CHARLES IS MAGIC!

158 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:23pm

re: #150 Dekar

Why is freemason included in the list of definitions

Google is your friend.

159 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:31pm

charles they left out NEO CON

160 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:42pm

re: #142 Shug

What's wrong with that?

Encouraging children to write letters to themselves opposed to an essay or composition is bizarre.

161 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:46pm

re: #138 ted

"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

This keeps getting more and more bizarre everyday.

You made me upding Cato.

GAZE.

///

162 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:17:52pm

You do get some pretty funny hate mail!
I hope it breaks up the monotony of the usual junk!

164 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:18:22pm

re: #144 MandyManners

The Push-Back works.

re: #145 Killgore Trout

I think it was an interesting update but NRO's claim of victory is kinda stupid...

Seething works.

OK, which is it - push-back or seething?

People's voices and concerns were heard, and I think it's a good thing. If they think they will be heard, perhaps less seething will go on.

165 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:18:26pm

re: #161 SasquatchOnSteroids

You made me upding Cato.

GAZE.

///


me too. twice in one thread. though his essay above was brilliant

166 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:18:52pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

gd it.

167 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:19:04pm

re: #151 lincolntf

It does. Or Joe Carter.
Turns out it was O's announcer Gary Thorne. I forgot that he claimed Doug Mirabelli told him the story. Hosiery hijinks!

Gary Thorne is a tool ... he used to do hockey on ESPN and in 1994 when the NY Rangers beat the NJ Devils to make the Stanley Cup Finals, he totally blew the call, saying the "jinx was dead" for the Rangers, but they still needed to win the Finals series (which they eventually did) before they ended the jinx.

I have a long memory when it comes to that stuff!

168 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:19:12pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

WELL there was that painting diego revera did that had v.i. lenin in it

169 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:19:22pm

"Fussbudget" ("Mefuneket" in Hebrew) was my nickname at the hospital in Israel where I gave birth to my first born. They were used to women who came in to drop their 5th or 6th pup, take a nap, and go home to make dinner for the rest of the family.

As an American, I actually expected to be given painkillers. They laughed, and gave me a bullet to bite on.

170 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:19:34pm

re: #129 OldLineTexan

Tinky-Winky?

You're rebuking a Teletubbie?

Surely you know about that?

Youtube Video
171 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:19:38pm

re: #150 Dekar

Why is freemason included in the list of definitions

I apologize for my No. 158. It was not intended to be tacky but I can see it could be read that way.

Google Freemasonry, New World Order, David Icke (esp. Icke), Golden Dawn, et cet..

172 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:19:57pm

re: #157 fat bastard vegetarian

Esoterocist... one with the power to remove age spots...

CHARLES IS MAGIC!


How about hemorrhoids?

173 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:20:44pm

Rockefeller is a favorite target of the Birch Society too.

174 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:20:57pm

re: #164 reine.de.tout

OK, which is it - push-back or seething?

People's voices and concerns were heard, and I think it's a good thing. If they think they will be heard, perhaps less seething will go on.

Some will seethe no matter what. I prefer to keep my energies in check.

However, it is amusing to know that FCBBHO's not getting his way on a lot of things.

175 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:20:59pm

re: #172 Jim in Virginia

How about hemorrhoids?


The heartbreak of psoriasis.

176 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:21:02pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Video: Glenn Beck scrutinizes Rockefeller Center artwork for communist propaganda

[Video]

Wow! He's really beginning to lose it now. I have to wonder if the Fox suits are starting to have meetings about him.

177 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:21:05pm
178 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:21:29pm

A letter is to communicate with others not "oneself"

Do you mail letters to "yourself"?

179 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:21:47pm

re: #176 Charles

Wow! He's really beginning to lose it now. I have to wonder if the Fox suits are starting to have meetings about him.

I have to wonder if the Fox suits are calling this.

180 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:21:54pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Can't get the video to play. Is Beck surprised that Diego Rivera admired communists?

181 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:22:01pm

re: #138 ted

"Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals".

This keeps getting more and more bizarre everyday.

What's bizarre about that?
This is something kids need to be thinking about, particularly those kids from families that might not value education as much as others.

Writing letters to "yourself" is an activity that's been used quite often in schools (and other settings) - the act of writing the goals down creates a thought process and sinks the ideas into the head, and then re-reading the letter later as a reminder is also a good thing.

182 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:22:17pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Rockefeller is a favorite target of the Birch Society too.

Is JBS into NWO and the like? Aren't many Birchers Masons?

183 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:22:23pm

re: #178 ted

A letter is to communicate with others not "oneself"

Do you mail letters to "yourself"?

It's a standard school exercise. I know of three generations that have done it.

184 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:22:43pm

In principle, I have no problem with any US President addressing K-12 students, but I wonder if Obama's last education speech gives some people the willies about the next one:

Obama education speech in Ohio. Transcript.

Yesterday was a special day around my house. It was back-to- school day for my girls. We started a little bit late. Sasha started second grade and Malia began fifth grade. I know Malia was really embarrassed when I walked her to the classroom. (Laughter, applause.) She had her locker with a combination lock for the first time and she had gone early to practice, and here her daddy's coming with her to class. but I went anyway because she is daddy's girl and will remain daddy's girl until she's about 30. (Laughter, cheers, applause.)

So -- you know, seeing them back at school was a reminder not only that another year had passed and that they're growing up a little faster than I'd sometimes like. I was in Indiana and there was a woman there who raised her hand during a town hall meeting, said she was a fifth-grad teacher. So I said, well, you know, what -- can you give me some tips? What's going to happen in fifth grade? And she said, "Boys." (Laughter.) And that wasn't the answer I was looking for. (Laughter, chuckles.) So I explained that one of the benefits of running for president is we have Secret Service around her at all times -- (laughter, applause) -- and they carry guns with them. (Laughs.) So it was also a reminder that they're growing up a little faster than I'd like. But it was also a reminder of all the other parents who are dropping their children off at school and all the other kids who are getting ready for another year of classes.

You know, every four years, we hear candidates talk about the vital importance of education -- about how improving our schools is key to our future and the future of our country. Every four years, we hear about how, this time, we're going to make it an urgent national priority. Remember in the 2000 election, when George W. Bush promised to be -- I quote -- the "education president"? (Jeers.)

But just as with energy independence and health care, the urgency of upgrading public education for the 21st century has been talked to death in Washington, but not much has gotten done. And that failure to act has put our nation in jeopardy.

I believe the day of reckoning is here. (Cheers, applause.) Our -- our children and our country can't afford four more years of neglect and indifference. (Cheers, applause.) At this -- at this defining moment in our history, America faces few more urgent challenges than preparing our children to compete in a global economy. The decisions our leaders make about education in the coming years will shape our future for generations to come. They will help determine not only whether our children have the chance to fulfill their God-given potential or whether our workers have the chance to build a better life for their families, but whether we as a nation will remain in the 21st century the kind of global economic leader that we were in the 20th century.

185 KingKenrod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:23:17pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Video: Glenn Beck scrutinizes Rockefeller Center artwork for communist propaganda

[Video]

I find this subject interesting. Unfortunately, Beck is an unwatchable tool.

186 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:23:24pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Video: Glenn Beck scrutinizes Rockefeller Center artwork for communist propaganda

Youtube Video

What next? He analyzes the Israeli Supreme Court building for clues about the Rothschilds?

187 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:23:27pm

re: #176 Charles

Wow! He's really beginning to lose it now. I have to wonder if the Fox suits are starting to have meetings about him.

Youtube Video
188 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:23:45pm

re: #176 Charles

Wow! He's really beginning to lose it now. I have to wonder if the Fox suits are starting to have meetings about him.

if he keeps pulling in 2.8 million homes at 5pm ET, the only meetings they will have will be about a contract extension for Beck.

189 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:23:49pm

re: #183 Coracle

It's a standard school exercise. I know of three generations that have done it.

Not just a school exercise either - people who have received psychological therapy use this too, as a way to clarify their thoughts and as a reminder to themselves. A letter can be used to communicate with anybody you want to communicate with, including yourself.

I send myself "reminder" e-mails quite often. it works.

190 BlueCanuck  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:23:54pm

re: #175 fat bastard vegetarian

The heartbreak of psoriasis.

And can be very painful too. One thing I would wish on my worst enemy. :p

191 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:24:01pm

D.C. IS LAID OUT LIKE A GIANT PENTAGRAM!!1!ELEVENTY

192 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:24:19pm

re: #176 Charles

He's completely ignorant of art history.

193 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:24:26pm

re: #183 Coracle

It's a standard school exercise. I know of three generations that have done it.

I never did.

194 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:24:31pm

re: #135 lawhawk

No, it should. What keeps making me chuckle is that they keep making these kinds of errors, omissions, and other nonsensical errors in routine items such as this particular speaking engagement. They could have kept it short and sweet, but whoever writes this stuff for the Administration can't help but include this stuff, which is sure to get the right in a tizzy (occasionally rightfully so, but not in this instance).

Bollocks.
They keep misunderestimating (sic) the capacity of the wingnuttiest to manufacture outrage out of anything at all.

They keep trying to tamp down the hysteria by making any and all minor concessions about language or anything else.

But wingnut outage is now self-sustaining. Michelle Malkin has made an industry of it. It's self-perpetrating at this point.

And every time the Obama admin removes whatever phrase is causing seizures and rage-gasms on the right, or issues some kind of statement to debunk the two-minute freakout of the day, the wingnuts declare a victory and say it proves how incompetent the admin is at messaging, and say they're laughing about it.

Meanwhile, a sizeable portion of the wingnuttiest believe that the correction/removal/clarification proves they were right all along in their conspiracy fear.

And the cycle of wingnut continues. Depressing.

195 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:24:50pm

re: #178 ted

A letter is to communicate with others not "oneself"

Do you mail letters to "yourself"?

All the time.

Love letters. Hate mail. Things I can only tell myself.

It's known as keeping a journal, if you do it often enough. Some people have even had theirs published, and we know a great deal about history, thanks to them. Pepys springs to mind.

I also talk to myself, and occasionally I pee in the shower.

196 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:24:57pm

re: #178 ted

A letter is to communicate with others not "oneself"

Do you mail letters to "yourself"?

Only way I get Happy Birthday cards.

I see what you're saying, but maybe reading too much into it.
I write goals down all the time. I would encourage anyone to do it.
A written down goal is much more likely to be worked toward than the one in the noggin.
My 2 cents.

197 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:25:18pm

re: #189 reine.de.tout

Not just a school exercise either - people who have received psychological therapy use this too, as a way to clarify their thoughts and as a reminder to themselves. A letter can be used to communicate with anybody you want to communicate with, including yourself.

I send myself "reminder" e-mails quite often. it works.

Post-Its.

198 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:25:19pm

re: #193 ted

I never did.

But that doesn't make it by definition odd.

199 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:25:19pm

AW SHIT TEH BLAK HELEECAWPTURS R OAVR MAH HOWSE

200 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:25:49pm

re: #184 Danny

And what passage in that is scary or full of willies for you or any sane person?

201 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:26:03pm

keith dobermann on glenn beck ...

[Link: www.thrfeed.com...]

202 BlueCanuck  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:26:23pm

re: #199 MandyManners

AW SHIT TEH BLAK HELEECAWPTURS R OAVR MAH HOWSE

More feral pigs?

203 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:27:05pm

re: #196 SasquatchOnSteroids

Only way I get Happy Birthday cards.

I see what you're saying, but maybe reading too much into it.
I write goals down all the time. I would encourage anyone to do it.
A written down goal is much more likely to be worked toward than the one in the noggin.
My 2 cents.

Noggin goals are very often forgotten.
Written goals actually "exist" as something to work toward.

204 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:27:33pm

re: #200 LudwigVanQuixote

It's a partisan political speech.

205 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:27:33pm

I CEE PEEOPUL OHN TEVEE TRNIN N2 RIPTAHLS

206 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:27:44pm

re: #198 Coracle

But that doesn't make it by definition odd.

There are better ways for the POTUS to recommend, IMO.

207 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:27:53pm
208 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:28:04pm

At times like this, I'd like to smoke pot again.

209 Gearhead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:28:48pm

re: #199 MandyManners

AW SHIT TEH BLAK HELEECAWPTURS R OAVR MAH HOWSE

Your spelling really goes to hell when you're nervous.

Just sayin'.

210 esch  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:28:54pm

re: #153 reine.de.tout

But this piece of the lesson plan was one I had a particular issue with -if the point is to encourage a child to study harder, stay in school, then this activity is a much better plan, imo, than asking kids what they can do to help the President.

Agree 100%. And is one of the two provisions that gave me pause initially.

211 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:28:55pm

My lady is wondering why I keep giggling and saying

HELLL!!!

WE ARE GOING TO HELL I SAY!!!

I REBUKE YOUR MAGIC!!!

ok... she's hitting me now...

Ouch.

212 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:29:03pm

re: #208 MandyManners

At times like this, I'd like to smoke pot again.

In B...

213 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:29:09pm

re: #204 Danny

It's a partisan political speech.

Which part?

214 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:29:11pm
215 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:29:41pm

re: #213 LudwigVanQuixote

You really can't tell?

216 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:29:55pm

re: #180 jaunte

diego revera was a commie. anyone with any study would know that. feida was also a commie.

217 Coracle  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:30:18pm

re: #206 ted

There are better ways for the POTUS to recommend, IMO.

Everyone's certainly entitled to their own O.

218 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:30:28pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Watching Beck now:

"This administration is beginning to use art as propaganda."


NSS. Does he have any knowledge of our national history at all?

219 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:30:42pm

Center Art

In 1932, the Mexican socialist artist Diego Rivera (whose sponsor was Museum of Modern Art and whose patron at the time was Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, the wife of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.), was commissioned by their son Nelson Rockefeller to create a color fresco for the 1,071-square-foot (99 m2) wall in the lobby of the then RCA Building. This was after Nelson had been unable to secure the commissioning of either Matisse or Picasso. Previously he had painted a controversial mural in Detroit entitled Detroit Industry, commissioned by Abby and John's friend, Edsel Ford, who later became a MoMA trustee.

Thus it came as no real surprise when Rivera's Man at the Crossroads became controversial, as it contained Moscow May Day scenes and a clear portrait of Lenin, not apparent in initial sketches. After Nelson issued a written warning to Rivera to replace the offending figure with an anonymous face, Rivera refused (after offering to counterbalance Lenin with a portrait of Lincoln), and so he was paid off and the mural papered over at the instigation of Nelson, who was to become the Center's flamboyant president. Nine months later, after all attempts to save the fresco were explored—including relocating it to Abby's Museum of Modern Art—it was destroyed as a last option.[16] (Rivera re-created the work later in Mexico City in modified form, from photos taken by an assistant, Lucienne Bloch.)

Rivera's fresco in the Center was replaced with a stunning, larger mural by the Spanish Catalan artist Jose Maria Sert, titled American Progress, depicting a vast allegorical scene of men constructing modern America. It contains the figures of Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi and Ralph Waldo Emerson, and it is wrapped around the west wall of the Grand Lobby at 30 Rock.[17]

220 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:30:44pm

re: #189 reine.de.tout

re: #183 Coracle


Not just a school exercise either - people who have received psychological therapy use this too, as a way to clarify their thoughts and as a reminder to themselves

I agree...As a shrink, I'll use it with my patients...not schoolkids.

221 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:30:52pm

re: #205 MandyManners

I CEE PEEOPUL OHN TEVEE TRNIN N2 RIPTAHLS

Youtube Video

YOU TOO ARE GOING TO HELLL!!! HELL I SAY...

Owww...

She hit me again. She does that.

222 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:31:16pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Video: Glenn Beck scrutinizes Rockefeller Center artwork for communist propaganda

[Video]

I think I'll pass on that vid. All I have to do is read the caption and I already know what's on it: Glen Beck falling off the top of the Stupid Tree and hitting every branch on the way down.

223 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:31:19pm
224 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:31:28pm

re: #215 Danny

You really can't tell?

NO I really can't do please tell me what is a scary part of that that gives you the willies.

225 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:31:30pm

re: #217 Coracle

Everyone's certainly entitled to their own O.

Cool.

226 KingKenrod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:31:33pm

re: #201 _RememberTonyC

keith dobermann on glenn beck ...

[Link: www.thrfeed.com...]

Speaking of unwatchable tools...but at least Olbermann knows how to do a 2nd take.

227 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:32:21pm

re: #207 buzzsawmonkey

Yeah, this is all pretty much standard architecture and art for the era. He also throws in a comment about Obama indoctrinating children too.

228 Gearhead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:32:32pm

re: #218 jaunte

Watching Beck now:

NSS. Does he have any knowledge of our national history at all?

FTFY

229 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:33:06pm

re: #216 yochanan

diego revera was a commie. anyone with any study would know that. feida was also a commie.

And of course, no commie can do great art.

230 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:33:07pm

re: #226 KingKenrod

Speaking of unwatchable tools...but at least Olbermann knows how to do a 2nd take.

I always figured dobermann would go "Howard Beale" on the air one night, but I think beck will do it first.

231 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:33:12pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

revera is reported to have said it is my painting ford said it was his wall.

232 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:33:30pm

re: #176 Charles

That's what happens when you stop taking your meds!/

233 jaunte  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:34:09pm

Even a great painting of Lenin has no effective commie rays.

234 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:34:37pm
235 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:34:44pm

re: #230 _RememberTonyC

He's gone completely Beale. It's his schtick.

Unfortunately, to many people are not understand that it is his schtick.

236 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:35:02pm

re: #231 yochanan

revera is reported to have said it is my painting ford said it was his wall.

And Rivera got his own back on a wall in Mexico. Hah.

237 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:35:06pm

re: #229 Cato the Elder

in the 1930's during the wpa the arts were owned by marxists of one kind or another.


even today a cons. artist is rare i should know i am one.

238 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:35:34pm

re: #185 KingKenrod

I find this subject interesting. Unfortunately, Beck is an unwatchable tool.


A lot of intellecdtuals in the 30;s were keenly interested in Communism. The Soviet Union seemed to be working better than the US. But I've never understood why Rockefeller would hire Rivera. He knew who Rivera was and what kind of art he produced.

239 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:35:50pm

re: #235 fat bastard vegetarian

He's gone completely Beale. It's his schtick.

Unfortunately, to many people do not understand that it is his schtick.

First post was from Tarzan. He got the keyboard away from me.

240 Erik The Red  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:36:12pm

re: #234 buzzsawmonkey

'Nite, gang.

Later buzz :)))

241 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:36:33pm

re: #223 taxfreekiller

What if truth becomes real?

If a man speaks in a forest, and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?

/deep thought for the day.

242 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:36:42pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

He's completely ignorant of art history.


Art history is a communist plot.
So is Lenin's tomb.

243 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:37:20pm

re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote

NO I really can't do please tell me what is a scary part of that that gives you the willies.

None of it bothers me, and I seriously doubt Obama's next speech will say anything so partisan. The excerpt I posted is from Obama's September 2008 campaign speech given to teachers in Ohio.

"Remember in the 2000 election, when George W. Bush promised to be -- I quote -- the "education president"? (Jeers.)

But just as with energy independence and health care, the urgency of upgrading public education for the 21st century has been talked to death in Washington, but not much has gotten done. And that failure to act has put our nation in jeopardy.

I believe the day of reckoning is here. (Cheers, applause.) Our -- our children and our country can't afford four more years of neglect and indifference. "

244 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:39:13pm

Is it already too late for me to predict wingnut comparisons between Obama's upcoming school speech and the Chinese Cultural Revolution?

245 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:40:36pm

re: #244 Jimmah

Yeah, I think everyone went to the next thread.

246 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:47:03pm

re: #244 Jimmah

Is it already too late for me to predict wingnut comparisons between Obama's upcoming school speech and the Chinese Cultural Revolution?

Probably. It's well known that Obama is a fellow traveller, Comrade Jimmah-ski!

I think we're alone now...

Youtube Video
247 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:48:14pm

re: #245 Danny

Yeah, I think everyone went to the next thread.

Not everyone.

Youtube Video
248 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:50:24pm

re: #246 iceweasel

Probably. It's well known that Obama is a fellow traveller, Comrade Jimmah-ski!

I think we're alone now...


[Video]

Scroll up and check out the vid I linked about going to hell, I think you will like it Ice. I just found it.

249 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:51:12pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Video: Glenn Beck scrutinizes Rockefeller Center artwork for communist propaganda


The Diego Rivera mural at the DIA unveiled in 1933 was so full of communist themes that many wanted it painted over.

250 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:00:33pm

re: #248 LudwigVanQuixote

Scroll up and check out the vid I linked about going to hell, I think you will like it Ice. I just found it.

I love it!! Ludwig, you rock. Bookmarked!

251 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:02:19pm

re: #93 Bobblehead

Reminds me of the time I went to vote, and was greeted by a sign placed in the entrance to the school where voting occurs: "Poling Place".

252 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:02:35pm

re: #246 iceweasel

Probably. It's well known that Obama is a fellow traveller, Comrade Jimmah-ski!

I think we're alone now...

For the glory of the motherland, comrade Iceweaselski :

Youtube Video
253 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:08:06pm

re: #221 LudwigVanQuixote

YOU TOO ARE GOING TO HELLL!!! HELL I SAY...

Owww...

She hit me again. She does that.

Excellent! On a related note, I posted some Orbital upthread :)

254 markie  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:13:45pm

Yoo steenking fussbudget-like persons! I fart in your general direction!

255 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:42:31pm

re: #94 Cato the Elder

Esotericist, literal, fussbudget Charles,
Received a great deal of hate-mail and snarls.
The ones most chagrined were the former star posters
Who left, or were banned, for being sad boasters,
Or wingbats, or haters, or baiters, or trolls.
They opened their own site, took strays in, held polls,
And soon made up things that would make you turn pale
About all of the bad stuff the lizards did. Fail.
You can't make this crap up. There were dust-ups and stuff.
Some people got booted. Some left in a huff.
Now they sit there and stew like old women in mourning
For all of the karma they lost without warning.
Long may they sit there, and long may they stew,
Sorry people with nothing but poison to brew.

Well done, Cato...

256 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:51:54pm

re: #253 Jimmah

Excellent! On a related note, I posted some Orbital upthread :)

You rock!

257 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:52:47pm

re: #252 Jimmah

OK you posted Laibach... You rock so hard I don't have words for it. Did we listen to all the same music in college?

258 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:58:52pm
259 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:59:45pm

re: #258 Neobuzz

And maybe you should bite me.

260 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:16:39pm

re: #252 Jimmah

For the glory of the motherland, comrade Iceweaselski :


[Video]

Here is my fav Laibach...

Youtube Video
261 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:21:42pm

re: #256 LudwigVanQuixote

And

Youtube Video

and
Youtube Video
262 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:36:04pm

re: #257 LudwigVanQuixote

OK you posted Laibach... You rock so hard I don't have words for it. Did we listen to all the same music in college?

Hey - great to meet a fellow Laibach fan on LGF! Doesn't happen everyday ;-)

Don't suppose you ever got to listen to the BBC radio 1 John Peel show? That's where I first discovered them.

Youtube Video
263 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:41:18pm

re: #257 LudwigVanQuixote

OK you posted Laibach... You rock so hard I don't have words for it.

Totally agree with you on Jimmah-ski, Comrade Ludwig. ;)
He's the one who got me into Laibach here.

Youtube Video
264 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 9:00:39pm

re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote

And


and
[Video]

Rammstein - great :) More Laibach:

Eins, zwei, drei, vier! (miaow)

[Link: www.rathergood.com...]

265 Ziggy Standard  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 9:11:23pm

re: #263 iceweasel

One for you, iceweasel ;-)

Youtube Video
266 SFGoth  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 10:43:34pm

LOL, Charles, the guy's just jealous that you get chicks and he doesn't.

267 SFGoth  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 10:45:51pm

re: #264 Jimmah

Rammstein - great :) More Laibach:

Eins, zwei, drei, vier! (miaow)

[Link: www.rathergood.com...]

Hey! Stop impersonating me! (Man kann zu Laibach schottisht.) BTW, Friday night is Sisters of Mercy tribute night here in S.F. at Cat Club.

268 Canadhimmis  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 1:41:26am

.

All your fussbudget belong to us.


.

269 crimeshark  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 5:51:38am
I have to admit, that’s more creative than the usual run of the mill “douchebag Hitler ponytailed RINO” stuff I get. According to Wikipedia, “esotericist” means this guy thinks I’m a witch, a Freemason, a mesmerist, or a theosophist.

Groovy. I’ve always wanted to be able to mesmerize the unsuspecting masses.

WOW. All these years I've been a Mason and all I thought we did was have meetings, run charities, donate money and operate a famous hospital.

Little did I know.

What a jerk.

270 Cato  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 8:08:11am

I knew it Charles.
You are a Freemason!
Um, is that a good or a bad thing?

271 Land Shark  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 8:33:54am

Awesome, Charles! I mean, I've never been called esotericist, literalist and fussbudget. I mean, I've been called an esoteric snob, an evil conservative, a Zionist tool, an Islamophobe, a fuddyduddy and even a scum bucket, but not one of those cool names. You sir, are the man! After all, I haven't been able to inspire someone to call me that! You rawk!

I'm so jealous...

///

272 Land Shark  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 8:38:12am

re: #270 Cato

I knew it Charles.
You are a Freemason!
Um, is that a good or a bad thing?

I'm still trying to figure out:
1- Who's this Mason guy?
2- What's he in jail for?
3- Why should we free this guy anyway?
4- We know Charles is Free, but what would somebody wan't to call him Mason?

I know, I know, I woke up on my sarcastic side of the bed this morning...

273 humpty dumpty was pushed  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 8:52:56am

"Fussbudget" would be a kick-ass name for a Punk/Flamenco fusion band. Yeah, someone can use that if they beat me to it.

274 Shredstar  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 9:54:00am

The RINO attack is especially amusing. We need some rhetoric to call these Republican hijackers "Fiscally Conservative in Name Only". Much of the Republican support has traditionally been on a small government, low government intrusion, libertarian platform; but recently the Republicans have been hijacked by a bunch of crazies wanting other things, eroding the power of the only home to those wanting small government.

The 1999 Clinton/Republican Congress/Graham repeal of the Glass Stegal act of 1933 allowed banks to begin making very risky investments in non-banking areas. Citibank bought Travelers Insurance, for example. At first this seems good - government stopping some interference in a free market. But this became one of several reasons which caused the crash and massive lurch towards government-running-everything, which may be irreversible. Was repeal of Glass Stegal fiscally conservative and libertarian? Short term, yes, long term, no.

Obama adviser Christina Romer is sort of right about how the "starve the beast" way of shrinking government does not work. You cannot cause government to spend less by cutting taxes then threatening the peril of massive debt unless spending is reduced. Once we're overspending at $1 trillion a year, $2 or $3 trillion a year is not that big a deal, and deficit spending is an easy sell.

One could claim "starve the beast" is really "feed the beast" since tax cuts often cause more taxes collected. Okay, this is a stupid metaphor. Government grew massively under Reagan, Clinton, and Bush. Bush was leader of Republicans.

Where are the fiscal conservatives? That's what the Republican Party should be all about, not all the crazy stuff.

275 gregb  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 10:19:38am

As someone who always tries to see the good in people, at least he was exact in his choice of vocabulary.

My favorite forum on the Web in 1996 was the Atlantic Monthly's Poste & Riposte's Word Count. Barbara Wallraff was my hero. It was a forum all about language evolution and finding that exact word that captured the exact meaning.

[Link: www.wordnik.com...]

276 AZDave  Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:29:28am

re: #10 quickjustice

When Harry Truman rebuilt the White House back in the late 1940s, all kinds of masonic symbols were discovered inscribed in the foundations. All of the Founders were freemasons, so you're in good company there.

It's useful to belong to a secret society when you're conspiring against the Crown!

When did the Masons become a secret society? I've been one for over 25 years. Our hang outs are clearly marked. You must be thinking of another secret society such as the pro-Americans in Obama's administration.

277 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 4, 2009 6:20:05am

Charles, if you must mesmerize us, do it with your guitar chops.


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