Thursday Afternoon Open
Just another midday open thread…
2 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:25:49pm |
Militants assault police compounds in Pakistan
Islamist militants launched coordinated assaults on three police compounds in Pakistan's second largest city Thursday, the latest in a wave of attacks by insurgents bringing the war to the country's heartland ahead of an expected offensive against their Afghan border sanctuary.
The dramatic escalation in violence appears to be an attempt by the Taliban- and al-Qaida-led insurgency to seize the initiative from the army and deliver a warning to the U.S.-backed civilian government: Attack us in South Waziristan and we will fight back in your cities.
It also discredits Pakistani claims that the Taliban were on the ropes after this year's military campaign in the Swat Valley and the killing of their leader, Baitullah Mehsud, in a U.S. airstrike in August.
3 | Kragar Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:26:10pm |
Repost for the Open Thread
Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.
4 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:26:27pm |
Another bow!
Namaste.
5 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:26:33pm |
I see that "Iron Fist" is threatening my life again at the stalker blog.
6 | bofhell Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:26:52pm |
The kid was hiding in the attic.
Someone is gonna be grounded until he's 120...
7 | LadyBehir Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:26:53pm |
Poor kid was probably afraid of getting punished for letting the balloon go. Priceless how much misinformation about the actual balloon was on the broadcasts.
8 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:27:26pm |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wow. I'm guessing this is probably the end of his career.
9 | badger1970 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:27:38pm |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Yeah, right Judge.
10 | webevintage Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:27:42pm |
11 | Kragar Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:27:58pm |
re: #5 Charles
I see that "Iron Fist" is threatening my life again at the stalker blog.
Somebody needs to quit huffing gun lubricant.
12 | bofhell Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:29:18pm |
Would someone please set the Wayback Machine to 1973...
13 | badger1970 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:29:26pm |
re: #1 Izzyboy
In the mean time, the media has been taking the angle that the parents were bad parents.
14 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:29:30pm |
He's also threatening the life of White House Communications Director Anita Dunn.
15 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:30:36pm |
re: #14 Charles
Such a lovely guy. The recently departed should be proud to be spending time with such a charming person.
16 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:31:11pm |
Threat against me:
17 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:31:57pm |
Beck threw his character assassination attempt against Anita Dunn into high gear today, playing her quoting Mao at a graduation speech over and over again.
18 | Varek Raith Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:32:16pm |
22 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:34:22pm |
re: #7 LadyBehir
Poor kid was probably afraid of getting punished for letting the balloon go. Priceless how much misinformation about the actual balloon was on the broadcasts.
What misinformation? A older brother told authorities that boy was in balloon (brother was covering for brother). There is a video of something falling from the balloon when it was at about 100 feet of it's ascent. When the balloon came down it was empty. That's what happened, it wasn't misreported.
23 | Bagua Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:34:22pm |
re: #16 Charles
Threat against me:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Yes, and that Savage sociopath made clear threats as well.
24 | enoughalready Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:34:22pm |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"Nice" to see that Louisiana is still ripe with racists. I was there, in New Orleans, for a project a few years back and was actually shocked by some of the stuff people said to my face. Like "us white people have to stick together against all the *racial slurs*". From a lawyer. While we were having champagne in a pretty upscale restaurant. I have been pretty much everywhere and I can safely say that I haven't met the same full on racism anywhere. Ever.
25 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:35:28pm |
Iron Fist is finally free to say whatever he wants...next stop is a straight jacket, or worse...he is way to deep in
27 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:36:06pm |
28 | martinsmithy Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:36:11pm |
It looks like someone is breaking the "Iron Fist Rule" on a continual basis these days.
Actually, it is even scarier if he isn't breaking the rule.
29 | Kragar Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:36:17pm |
Anyone who thinks the turning the Lefts "Rules for Radicals" against them is the right course of action is a fucking idiot.
30 | Martinsmithy Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:38:02pm |
Maybe if Iron Fist is silenced RedState can opine that "We are all Iron Fist."
31 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:38:43pm |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ugh. The South really hasn't changed much in 150 years, has it? It's things like this that almost make me wish Lincoln hadn't let them back in the Union.
32 | badger1970 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:40:04pm |
re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It's the idiot who think that it has worked for the left, rather then think of all the details that allowed the left to take power. The true believers on either party will always believe their wing is the best. It's the independents that get ignored and frankly become sickened by the opposition tactics for the last 40 years.
33 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:40:09pm |
re: #31 Merryweather
Ugh. The South really hasn't changed much in 150 years, has it? It's things like this that almost make me wish Lincoln hadn't let them back in the Union.
Hang on there partner! Don't lump all southerners in with this mouth-breather.
34 | bofhell Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:40:32pm |
re: #22 Walter L. Newton
What misinformation? A older brother told authorities that boy was in balloon (brother was covering for brother). There is a video of something falling from the balloon when it was at about 100 feet of it's ascent. When the balloon came down it was empty. That's what happened, it wasn't misreported.
Of course, it was nice to see the media obsessed about something outside of Washington...
35 | The Shadow Do Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:40:56pm |
re: #16 Charles
Threat against me:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Charming. I suspect IF is a classic 95 pound weakling still working on the benefits of dynamic tension. Mr macho is a damn self inflated sissy in all likilhood. what a loser.
36 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:41:12pm |
re: #31 Merryweather
Ugh. The South really hasn't changed much in 150 years, has it? It's things like this that almost make me wish Lincoln hadn't let them back in the Union.
As one who has lived in Texas for 36 years, I can about count on my fingers and toes the number of native Texans I ahve met. Most are Yankee born, like me. Came here to get warm and make a living.
Please don't direct all racist sentiment at the south. It isn't so localized.
37 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:41:41pm |
re: #6 bofhell
The kid was hiding in the attic.
Someone is gonna be grounded until he's 120...
Now can I say I'm hiding in Walter's Bear Reserve?
/
38 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:42:04pm |
re: #25 albusteve
Iron Fist is finally free to say whatever he wants...next stop is a straight jacket, or worse...he is way to deep in
Well- he runs with such a dignified crowd now, you see. You know, with people who post genocidal propaganda videos, and revel in using the most coarse and vulgar language they can think of. And all around them are the clueless who sit and read these very words, and see nothing wrong in keeping such company.
39 | Kragar Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:42:05pm |
re: #33 rwdflynavy
Hang on there partner! Don't lump all southerners in with this mouth-breather.
I'm from CA. I get the same deal all the time.
40 | Danny Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:42:12pm |
re: #31 Merryweather
Ugh. The South really hasn't changed much in 150 years, has it? It's things like this that almost make me wish Lincoln hadn't let them back in the Union.
There are pockets that make you think that's the case, but they are the exception.
41 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:42:53pm |
re: #31 Merryweather
I'm in the South; thank you very much.
43 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:43:28pm |
re: #31 Merryweather
re: #36 allegro
As one who has lived in Texas for 36 years, I can about count on my fingers and toes the number of native Texans I ahve met. Most are Yankee born, like me. Came here to get warm and make a living.
Please don't direct all racist sentiment at the south. It isn't so localized.
Amen. As someone who was born and raised and lived around the Boston area for most of the 1st 45 years of my life, and who now lives about 20 miles outside of Atlanta I can say I saw/heard much more racism per capita in Boston than here
Also ,,, try Detroit!
44 | badger1970 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:44:14pm |
re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You mean you don't all eat granola and walk around in Birkenstocks? /
45 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:44:21pm |
re: #42 jaunte
I'm a native Texan. Keith Bardwell is an ass.
Cool! Now I can start including... other body parts. :)
46 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:44:28pm |
Saw Zombieland today.
Highly recommend the movie!
48 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:46:10pm |
re: #33 rwdflynavy
re: #40 Danny
I know I'm generalizing like crazy and that it's unfair, but grrr...the few rotten apples make me so mad my sense of fairness goes out the window. It's not helped by cases like that place in Georgia where high school proms were still segregated as recently as last year. Why didn't/doesn't anyone do anything about it?
49 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:46:24pm |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Repost for the Open Thread
Some mornings I wake up and I swear, it's like 1954 all over again.
And I wasn't even born until '73.
50 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:46:32pm |
re: #43 sattv4u2
Amen. As someone who was born and raised and lived around the Boston area for most of the 1st 45 years of my life, and who now lives about 20 miles outside of Atlanta I can say I saw/heard much more racism per capita in Boston than here
Also ,,, try Detroit!
Boston is my birthplace. My relatives there are much more vocally racist than my acquaintances here. It always stuns me.
51 | enoughalready Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:46:36pm |
re: #47 bluecheese
Why do I get the feeling that it will end up with "BUY GOLD! TEH RON PAUL! GOLD!"?
52 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:46:59pm |
53 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:47:46pm |
re: #48 Merryweather
It's not helped by cases like that place in Georgia where high school proms were still segregated as recently as last year. Why didn't/doesn't anyone do anything about it?
Wasn't that at a private religious school? Didn't the kids throw their own integrated prom in protest?
54 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:47:47pm |
re: #38 Sharmuta
Well- he runs with such a dignified crowd now, you see. You know, with people who post genocidal propaganda videos, and revel in using the most coarse and vulgar language they can think of. And all around them are the clueless who sit and read these very words, and see nothing wrong in keeping such company.
the language, I think, may be a device to stun his listeners...bold, brash, brave...the greater the ego, the greater the audience...he's probably a hero to the smaller minds reading him...pretty much what you are saying
55 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:48:09pm |
re: #17 bratwurst
Beck threw his character assassination attempt against Anita Dunn into high gear today, playing her quoting Mao at a graduation speech over and over again.
Lemme guess. Was it the quote about women holding up half the sky?
56 | Danny Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:48:42pm |
re: #48 Merryweather
re: #40 Danny
It's not helped by cases like that place in Georgia where high school proms were still segregated as recently as last year. Why didn't/doesn't anyone do anything about it?
People are doing stuff about it. A friend of mine made a film named Prom Night in Mississippi about segregated proms. Highly recommended.
57 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:48:50pm |
re: #47 bluecheese
Fox called it the beginning of the 'Bush Recovery'. Not kidding.
58 | reine.de.tout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:49:26pm |
re: #28 martinsmithy
It looks like someone is breaking the "Iron Fist Rule" on a continual basis these days.
Actually, it is even scarier if he isn't breaking the rule.
There is no Iron Fist rule there.
It's full-on open season on LGF, Charles and many folks who continue to post here.
59 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:49:43pm |
If anyone has any examples of ugly Hot Air comments (with links, please -- click the timestamp at lower right of the comment for the direct link), I'm starting to put together the 'Hot Air Comments of the Day' post.
60 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:50:13pm |
re: #56 Danny
Good to hear, but frankly it shouldn't have taken them until the freakin' 21st century. Still, progress is progress.
61 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:50:22pm |
re: #24 enoughalready
"Nice" to see that Louisiana is still ripe with racists. I was there, in New Orleans, for a project a few years back and was actually shocked by some of the stuff people said to my face. Like "us white people have to stick together against all the *racial slurs*". From a lawyer. While we were having champagne in a pretty upscale restaurant. I have been pretty much everywhere and I can safely say that I haven't met the same full on racism anywhere. Ever.
I feel like sending him the cute kids' book about Benjamin Banneker's grandparents.
62 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:50:52pm |
re: #57 Merryweather
Fox called it the beginning of the 'Bush Recovery'. Not kidding.
Some could realistically call it that. TARP is the major reason the markets didn't keep tanking. The "stimulus" moneios for the most part aren;'t even in the pipeline yet. Look for job recovery (always the last indicator in a recession) to start rebounding Feb/ March 2010
63 | Danny Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:50:58pm |
re: #60 Merryweather
Good to hear, but frankly it shouldn't have taken them until the freakin' 21st century. Still, progress is progress.
Old mindsets die hard.
64 | flywheel Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:51:00pm |
I think I know what Thursday Afternoon "Open" means. Should I keep it to myself?
65 | SixDegrees Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:51:21pm |
re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist
I feel like sending him the cute kids' book about Benjamin Banneker's grandparents.
I feel like setting a bag of dog shit on fire on his front porch.
66 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:52:33pm |
re: #59 Charles
If anyone has any examples of ugly Hot Air comments (with links, please -- click the timestamp at lower right of the comment for the direct link), I'm starting to put together the 'Hot Air Comments of the Day' post.
Here the president is called a freak:
[Link: hotair.com...]
67 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:52:34pm |
Why does it suddenly smell like flounce in here?
68 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:53:07pm |
re: #67 Charles
Why does it suddenly smell like flounce in here?
hey ,,, YOU'RE the one that opened registration
//just sayin!
69 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:53:46pm |
re: #62 sattv4u2
The problem I have with it is that according to Fox, the market tanking during Bush's presidency was all Obama's fault, and now the market's appears to be recovering it's all down to Bush. They can't have it both ways...oh wait, it's Fox News we're talking about.
71 | jaunte Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:54:00pm |
re: #59 Charles
Stereotype:
[Link: hotair.com...]
72 | Danny Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:54:04pm |
re: #64 flywheel
I think I know what Thursday Afternoon "Open" means. Should I keep it to myself?
Go ahead, spill it out.
74 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:54:40pm |
re: #65 SixDegrees
I feel like setting a bag of dog shit on fire on his front porch.
Well, that too.
76 | wrenchwench Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:55:27pm |
re: #64 flywheel
I think I know what Thursday Afternoon "Open" means. Should I keep it to myself?
Welcome, hatchling.
77 | Greengolem64 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:55:41pm |
re: #31 Merryweather
Ugh. The South really hasn't changed much in 150 years, has it? It's things like this that almost make me wish Lincoln hadn't let them back in the Union.
Nice "broad brush" stereotype there...
/
79 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:56:06pm |
re: #69 Merryweather
The problem I have with it is that according to Fox, the market tanking during Bush's presidency was all Obama's fault, and now the market's appears to be recovering it's all down to Bush. They can't have it both ways...oh wait, it's Fox News we're talking about.
Look, either Bush gets the blame for the tank or Obama gets the credit for the recovery, people. Trying to reverse them is just a bridge too far.
80 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:56:29pm |
re: #69 Merryweather
The problem I have with it is that according to Fox, the market tanking during Bush's presidency was all Obama's fault, and now the market's appears to be recovering it's all down to Bush. They can't have it both ways...oh wait, it's Fox News we're talking about.
link?
I follow lots of different financial sources, and from late 2007 to very early (Jan) 2009 I don't recall any commentator stating that.
I will say I heard and read the recovery MAY take longer under some of Obamas (campaign) proposals, buit all were said in speculation
81 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:56:42pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
Call for impeachment:
[Link: hotair.com...]
I don't think being a Marxist is actually grounds FOR impeachment.
82 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:56:46pm |
I salute anyone prepared to wade into the swamp of Hot Air for the purpose of mocking/calling them out. I don't dare go myself - I think I'd need to bleach my mind to cleanse it afterwards.
83 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:56:49pm |
Possibly former lizard Macker:
[Link: hotair.com...]
84 | SixDegrees Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:06pm |
re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist
Look, either Bush gets the blame for the tank or Obama gets the credit for the recovery, people. Trying to reverse them is just a bridge too far.
Can't we just blame Hitler?
/
85 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:08pm |
re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't think being a Marxist is actually grounds FOR impeachment.
See what I mean about civics education?
86 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:09pm |
re: #59 Charles
Here's a good thread...
People want to live with their own kind. Babel (multicultural) nations need Emperors to rule over them or else they divide or collapse into civil war.aengus on October 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM
87 | reine.de.tout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:09pm |
re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist
Some mornings I wake up and I swear, it's like 1954 all over again.
And I wasn't even born until '73.
This "justice of the peace" is an elected position - this guy has to be breaking the law, to deny services of his elected position to anyone.
A lot of these folks don't do much of anything except run a wedding business out of their homes - using their elected "justice of the peace" status to do it I don't know why this position even exists anymore.
88 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:12pm |
re: #78 Sharmuta
Threats of violence:
[Link: hotair.com...]
impeachment and demonizing are not good enough imo...overt threats certainly are
89 | LadyBehir Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:31pm |
re: #22 Walter L. Newton
Just some stations were saying hot air balloon, some helium, one even reported that it was happening in CA, not Colorado. I am very glad the little boy has been found safe.
90 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:57:45pm |
One of my favorite fan cover videos on YT:
91 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:58:07pm |
re: #82 Merryweather
I salute anyone prepared to wade into the swamp of Hot Air for the purpose of mocking/calling them out. I don't dare go myself - I think I'd need to bleach my mind to cleanse it afterwards.
try breitbart.com sometime
92 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:58:38pm |
93 | Greengolem64 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:58:45pm |
re: #43 sattv4u2
re: #36 allegro
Amen. As someone who was born and raised and lived around the Boston area for most of the 1st 45 years of my life, and who now lives about 20 miles outside of Atlanta I can say I saw/heard much more racism per capita in Boston than hereAlso ,,, try Detroit!
As another "native New Englander" who has moved south just in the last 8 years...I can whole heartedly concur with SATT's comment. Sadly the south has the 'stereotype' from history, but it's as or more rampant in the north.
GG
94 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:59:28pm |
re: #75 Sharmuta
Heh, that pesky language filter!
95 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:59:33pm |
The people attacking Anita Dunn at Hot Air for comments she made years ago are the same ones defending Rush Limbaugh for his "take that bone out of your nose" comment -- because he made it years ago.
96 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:59:46pm |
re: #91 spacejesus
try breitbart.com sometime
breitbart is a link dump...he posts stuff from all over...does he run an opinion blog too?
97 | SixDegrees Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:00:23pm |
98 | marsl Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:00:24pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
Blame the jews. They control the media, the banks, Wall Street and the finance. And the western goverments.
Still need the sarc tag?
99 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:00:40pm |
Meet The Man Behind The Intern Spy Wars: Muslim Mafia Author Dave Gaubatz
Let's take a closer look at the co-author of Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America, just out from WND Books, and now at #16 among all books on Amazon.
That would be David Gaubatz, a former Air Force investigator and Arabic speaker, who dispatched his son Chris to grow a beard and go undercover as a Muslim to obtain an internship at the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Gaubatz, who has long warned about the threat of Islamism in the United States, has claimed that he found Saddam's long-lost WMDs while in Iraq and has labeled Obama "Muslim" and a "self-admitted 'crack head.'"
100 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:00:55pm |
re: #96 albusteve
breitbart is a link dump...he posts stuff from all over...does he run an opinion blog too?
nope, but the comment section for breitbart exhibits the worst of the GOP.
it's like the de facto comment section for drudgereport
101 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:01:03pm |
102 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:01:06pm |
re: #95 Charles
The people attacking Anita Dunn at Hot Air for comments she made years ago are the same ones defending Rush Limbaugh for his "take that bone out of your nose" comment -- because he made it years ago.
Cognitive dissonance!
103 | Mocking Jay Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:01:19pm |
re: #95 Charles
The people attacking Anita Dunn at Hot Air for comments she made years ago are the same ones defending Rush Limbaugh for his "take that bone out of your nose" comment -- because he made it years ago.
I could accept that line of reasoning if I saw some semblance of regret for having said it. People can change. But when it's an ongoing problem I see no reason not to include it in his history as a mark against him.
104 | simoom Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:01:49pm |
re: #95 Charles
I don't know if you saw this, but you had a mention at MM today:
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
105 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:02:10pm |
re: #97 SixDegrees
I don't quite get the Babel reference. Was it a multiethnic society?
106 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:02:47pm |
107 | Gearhead Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:03:19pm |
re: #6 bofhell
The kid was hiding in the attic.
Someone is gonna be grounded until he's 120...
Thank God he's OK.
Hate to see the bill for city services his family's going to get...
...if they do that in Denver.
108 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:03:38pm |
economic genius...land of the movie flop
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
109 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:03:55pm |
BTW, there is actually a book about Benjamin Banneker's grandparents. Molly Bannaky. Not brilliant, but a nice book based on an interesting story about an biracial family in colonial America.
Molly was an indentured servant who took her money after she served her term, and claimed some land. Bought two men off the Middle Passage to help her farm it. One of them explained that he could not work for anyone but himself, since he was a prince, so Molly married him (making the property his under English law), and they raised two daughters. Story is that when the older girl was of an age to marry she went back to the Boston slave market looking for a son-in-law. (Heck, whatever works...) Her grandson was one of the surveyors who worked on the project laying out DC.
110 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:05:13pm |
kook fodder smear here:
[Link: hotair.com...]
111 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:05:14pm |
re: #100 spacejesus
nope, but the comment section for breitbart exhibits the worst of the GOP.
it's like the de facto comment section for drudgereport
I'm unaware of a comments section
112 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:05:28pm |
re: #98 marsl
Blame the jews. They control the media, the banks, Wall Street and the finance. And the western goverments.
Still need the sarc tag?
It is safer.
113 | SixDegrees Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:05:33pm |
re: #105 Killgore Trout
I don't quite get the Babel reference. Was it a multiethnic society?
They seem to be equating the splintering of human languages with disparate human races here. The white supremacists are WASPs at heart, and view not only people of different colors, but also those who speak different languages, with the same degree of suspicion and disdain.
114 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:06:06pm |
Calling Obama a racist:
[Link: hotair.com...]
115 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:06:12pm |
re: #101 Merryweather
Here. I should point out that by Fox I mean Fox News, not Fox Business Channel.
And yes, I'm a liberal. : )
And BTW ,,, the quotes back my assertion
There’s a lot of feeling ,,,
There is great uncertainty ,,,
but because he’s going to raise the capital gains tax. [...] Its going to continue to tank.”
speculative
117 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:06:54pm |
re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist
Story is that when the older girl was of an age to marry she went back to the Boston slave market looking for a son-in-law. (Heck, whatever works...) Her grandson was one of the surveyors who worked on the project laying out DC.
Sounds like my great-grandpa who bought himself a married a Cherokee Indian "princes" to help farm and make babies in Oklahoma.
118 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:07:16pm |
This is even more hilarious: a headline at Fox News:
Limbaugh May Have Grounds for Libel Suit, Legal Analysts Say
Their "legal analyst?" Lis Wein, Fox News talking head blonde.
119 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:07:17pm |
121 | sattv4u2 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:07:34pm |
Ah well ,,, the dog, the kid and the wife need dinner (and yes, in that order)
BBL ,, (maybe ,,, depends on if the College football and MLB baseball games on tonight are any good! )
122 | enoughalready Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:07:58pm |
Can someone please explain to me exactly how Obama is a Marxist? Unless it's the Groucho-variant in which case I consider myself honored to be a fellow Marxist. But since they are probably talking about old Karl. How?
123 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:08:04pm |
re: #105 Killgore Trout
I don't quite get the Babel reference. Was it a multiethnic society?
At Babel, God 'confused the language' of the people, and made it impossible for them to understand one another, after which they were scattered over the earth. Traditionally, this is interpreted to mean that they began to speak different languages. The passage begins with 'now the whole earth had one language, and a common tongue'.
124 | Cheechako Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:08:51pm |
re: #108 albusteve
economic genius...land of the movie flop
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Surprised they didn't try to add an "Energy Tax" on large screen TV's to raise more $'s for the State to spend.
125 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:09:16pm |
re: #118 Charles
Orly Taitz would be the perfect person to fight that case for Limbaugh.
126 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:09:20pm |
re: #122 enoughalready
Can someone please explain to me exactly how Obama is a Marxist? Unless it's the Groucho-variant in which case I consider myself honored to be a fellow Marxist. But since they are probably talking about old Karl. How?
google it...there is a ton of stuff out there, then make up your own mind
127 | Varek Raith Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:09:43pm |
re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist
At Babel, God 'confused the language' of the people, and made it impossible for them to understand one another, after which they were scattered over the earth. Traditionally, this is interpreted to mean that they began to speak different languages. The passage begins with 'now the whole earth had one language, and a common tongue'.
Serious question. Why'd he do that?
128 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:10:33pm |
re: #127 Varek Raith
Serious question. Why'd he do that?
According to the Bible, God did that because humans challenged his authority by trying to build the Tower of Babel all the way to heaven.
129 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:10:35pm |
re: #17 bratwurst
Beck threw his character assassination attempt against Anita Dunn into high gear today, playing her quoting Mao at a graduation speech over and over again.
Having a White House staffer approvingly cite the #1 mass murderer of all time would be most unseemly, if that's really what happened.
130 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:11:07pm |
re: #117 allegro
Sounds like my great-grandpa who
bought himself amarried a Cherokee Indian "princes" to help farm and make babies in Oklahoma.
Well, you know, African princes are hot. And it's not like you can return them.
131 | Varek Raith Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:11:29pm |
re: #128 Charles
According to the Bible, God did that because humans challenged his authority by trying to build the Tower of Babel all the way to heaven.
Thanks!
132 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:11:39pm |
re: #122 enoughalready
Same reasons that made Martin Luther King a Marxist.
133 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:11:43pm |
135 | enoughalready Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:11:58pm |
re: #126 albusteve
Hahaha. But it's ridiculous. Ah well.
136 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:12:02pm |
re: #113 SixDegrees
They seem to be equating the splintering of human languages with disparate human races here. The white supremacists are WASPs at heart, and view not only people of different colors, but also those who speak different languages, with the same degree of suspicion and disdain.
Ah, that's right. I do recall that Aryan was a language group from the area before the Nazis turned it into a racial concept.
137 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:12:11pm |
They hate his white half:
[Link: hotair.com...]
138 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:12:32pm |
re: #105 Killgore Trout
I don't quite get the Babel reference. Was it a multiethnic society?
Here you go:
GODSAIDMANSAID.COM - Why Is The Black Man Black and White Man White?
It's a very popular meme in the white supremacist Christian Identity crowd.
140 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:12:57pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
When are they going to call him a 'self-hating white man'?
142 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:14:23pm |
re: #135 enoughalready
Hahaha. But it's ridiculous. Ah well.
his economic policies alone tend toward Marxism...redistribution of wealth, which he has already set in motion
144 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:15:19pm |
re: #142 albusteve
his economic policies alone tend toward Marxism...redistribution of wealth, which he has already set in motion
Specifics, please.
145 | wrenchwench Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:15:28pm |
I had some funny guys in my shop yesterday. The three of them are riding across the country after being furloughed at their place of employment, and decided to raise money for breast cancer research as they do it.
They went and checked in at a motel, then the one with the most bike problems brought his bike in. I got to know him and about their ride while I was working on his bike. Then the second one came in. He knew more about how bikes work, so his didn't need much.
Then they told me about the third guy, and cautioned me that he might obsess over any advice I gave him. Apparently, the last bike mechanic told him that his shifting problems had to do with the spring in his rear derailler, and he should keep it clean. Since then, he'd been after it with a q-tip a few times a day.
So the third guy comes in with his bike, and starts telling me about his shifting problems and what he's done to try to improve it. He says, "How does it look to you? Is my spring clean enough?" I look down at his bike, and struggle for composure. I was able to make his bike shift really well, and I showed him how to adjust it himself, and I didn't laugh until he went outside to test ride it, leaving me with the other two, who laughed along with me.
I'm still laughing about it. I guess that's what happens after wrenching for 22 years.
146 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:16:51pm |
re: #127 Varek Raith
Serious question. Why'd he do that?
The people have joined together and are building a tower to 'reach to the heavens'. God expresses concern that if they succeed, 'nothing will be impossible for them'.
It's probably a very old story--it's one of the sections of Genesis where God mysteriously starts speaking in the plural. "Let us go down". I don't fully understand why the people are scattered, but I suspect that in the earliest versions, they might have been seen as posing some sort of threat or challenge to the gods.
Short answer--I dunno. This is not a story I know much about.
148 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:17:27pm |
This seems to be a racist website so I linked to the Google cache:
Letter to the White Race : Voice of Reason Broadcast Network
K-Sensor on January 1st, 2009 8:40 am
More stories of division. God’s design since babel was to separate the people. No order will come from joining them together without the almighty’s declaration to.
That's where the "Babel" talk at Hot Air is coming from.
149 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:17:36pm |
re: #138 Charles
Ah, much thanks. I never really understood that before.
150 | bosforus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:17:38pm |
...Although Richard said he has no specialized training, they had a computer tracking system in their car and a special motorcycle...
:)
151 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:17:49pm |
re: #142 albusteve
Redistribution of wealth is a socialist idea. Marxism and socialism are not the same thing. And seriously, the right wingers whining about the possibility of him raising taxes should check what the tax rates were like under their beloved Ronald Reagan.
152 | b_sharp Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:18:26pm |
If you'll forgive a newbie jumping into the thread...
I'm in a mixed marriage and have been for over 32 years. When my wife and I were first married, the racism was directed not just at my wife but at our relationship and later our kids, or at least the one who looked like a member of a minority. Now the racism is still there but it is less obvious and held under control by the fewer in number but just as bigoted tribalists. Unfortunately those people wouldn't recognize racism, in themselves or others, if it booted them in the nether regions while wearing steel toed work boots.
I have to run to see the blueman group so I can't expand this post any.
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153 | Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:18:31pm |
re: #17 bratwurst
Beck threw his character assassination attempt against Anita Dunn into high gear today, playing her quoting Mao at a graduation speech over and over again.
Iron Fist's threat quotes Mao, I've quoted Mao, I quoted Lester
Maddox here on Tues. We all quote Benjamin Franklin. Just a
long-marching, chicken-cooking, lover of older women here, folks.
154 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:18:38pm |
re: #129 The Sanity Inspector
Having a White House staffer approvingly cite the #1 mass murderer of all time would be most unseemly, if that's really what happened.
Perhaps so, but would it be a piece of evidence that Obama is both a Marxist AND a fascist?
156 | Guanxi88 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:18:57pm |
re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Repost for the Open Thread
WTF - This guy needs to be thrown outta any position of power or authority or influence, run outta the parish, and then soundly black-balled by the Elks and Moose Lodges wherever he may land.
What a low-life.
157 | bluecheese Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:19:08pm |
re: #142 albusteve
his economic policies alone tend toward Marxism...redistribution of wealth, which he has already set in motion
His proposed tax rates are lower than Ronald Reagan's.
Was Bill Clinton a Marxist? What about Eisenhower?
WTF?
158 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:19:11pm |
159 | wrenchwench Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:19:51pm |
re: #152 b_sharp
Welcome, hatchling. I found your last line humorous, given the context.
161 | Guanxi88 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:22:04pm |
re: #153 Decatur Deb
Iron Fist's threat quotes Mao, I've quoted Mao, I quoted Lester
Maddox here on Tues. We all quote Benjamin Franklin. Just a
long-marching, chicken-cooking, lover of older women here, folks.
Hell, i quote Mao and Deng Xiaoping all the time. Don't make me a red.
162 | dugmartsch Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:22:14pm |
re: #157 bluecheese
His proposed tax rates are lower than Ronald Reagan's.
Was Bill Clinton a Marxist? What about Eisenhower?
WTF?
I love the "set in motion" stuff. Or Marxist "tendencies" or "inclinations". It's character assassination which needs exactly zero evidence to seem true enough.
163 | Guanxi88 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:23:10pm |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
Death Panel!
My grandfather had death paneling in the basement. Ugliest damned stuff you every saw.
164 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:23:11pm |
re: #154 bratwurst
Perhaps so, but would it be a piece of evidence that Obama is both a Marxist AND a fascist?
Not in the least. It'd just be evidence that the staffer was a product of some leftard American university.
165 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:24:00pm |
re: #164 The Sanity Inspector
Well that is the way Glenn Beck was using the clip.
166 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:24:03pm |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
Death Panel!
I can't read anymore over there. Tomorrow it's someone else's turn to read that crap.
167 | bluecheese Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:24:28pm |
re: #164 The Sanity Inspector
Not in the least. It'd just be evidence that the staffer was a product of some leftard American university.
LOL
168 | Guanxi88 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:24:37pm |
re: #165 bratwurst
Well that is the way Glenn Beck was using the clip.
Beck uses this stuff like a Koala uses a eucalyptus - it's a source of food, shelter, and a place to crap.
169 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:25:12pm |
re: #166 Sharmuta
I can't read anymore over there. Tomorrow it's someone else's turn to read that crap.
I'd volunteer, but I haven't had my shots.
170 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:25:42pm |
Beck started weeping again today, by the way.
171 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:25:55pm |
re: #162 dugmartsch
I love the "set in motion" stuff. Or Marxist "tendencies" or "inclinations". It's character assassination which needs exactly zero evidence to seem true enough.
one step at a time comrade...federal control over the economy takes awhile
172 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:26:01pm |
re: #99 Killgore Trout
Meet The Man Behind The Intern Spy Wars: Muslim Mafia Author Dave Gaubatz
Good find! Charles did say that this was probably going to blow up.
173 | Guanxi88 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:26:06pm |
re: #170 Charles
Beck started weeping again today, by the way.
Started? i thought he hadn't stopped since the first assault on Lady Liberty.
174 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:26:29pm |
175 | Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:26:47pm |
re: #161 Guanxi88
Hell, i quote Mao and Deng Xiaoping all the time. Don't make me a red.
There goes YOUR Limbaugh internship.
176 | Guanxi88 Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:27:15pm |
re: #175 Decatur Deb
There goes YOUR Limbaugh internship.
Dammit! Now how am I supposed to get into radio?
177 | Dr. Shalit Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:27:29pm |
re: #47 bluecheese
bluecheese -
To date, betting AGAINST the US - Long Term - has been a Sucker's Bet. With work, common sense and luck it will remain such. Just a small thing, check out today's Jerusalem Post. "Whaddabout" batteries made mainly of GLASS which degrades to sand, recyleable to glass. Contributors to the concept being the US, Japan and Israel. That might have a future, and is all.
-S-
179 | irish rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:27:56pm |
180 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:27:56pm |
re: #170 Charles
He stopped crying at some point? I guess he ran out of Vicks.
181 | Charles Johnson Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:28:35pm |
Beck is getting crazier and crazier:
182 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:28:38pm |
183 | Dr. Shalit Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:29:22pm |
re: #118 Charles
This is even more hilarious: a headline at Fox News:
Limbaugh May Have Grounds for Libel Suit, Legal Analysts Say
Their "legal analyst?" Lis Wein, Fox News talking head blonde.
Charles -
The better cause of action would be "Tortuous Interference" - the problem would be ascertaining damages.
-S-
184 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:29:23pm |
re: #180 Merryweather
He stopped crying at some point? I guess he ran out of Vicks.
I'm available to poke him in the eye with a sharp stick... for a price.
185 | irish rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:29:40pm |
186 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:30:01pm |
re: #157 bluecheese
His proposed tax rates are lower than Ronald Reagan's.
Was Bill Clinton a Marxist? What about Eisenhower?
WTF?
His proposed tax rates are lower than 28% (1988)?
It ain't the rate when a President steps into office that counts, it's the rate going out.
187 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:30:28pm |
Fundamentalist group urging people to contact Ohio's Governor about Rifqa Bary:
TAKE ACTION:
Help us expose the wicked practice of Muslim honor killings and help us work to protect Rifqa from violence and even death.
Meanwhile, friend of pamela geller, Tom Trento, fans the flames:
Tom Trento is director of the Florida Security Council, an organization dedicated to the defeat of Islamic terrorism. While concerned about the prospect of young Rifqa being returned to a threatening environment, he is pleased that the judge has ordered the parents' lawyer to turn over the appropriate immigration papers.
"Judge Dawson said [basically that] 'custody may be a right of the state of Ohio, but this young girl is not leaving Florida until I see the immigration papers from the Barys that I have been asking for.'"
Trento says he is concerned that if young Rifqa is returned to Ohio, she might be deported back to Sri Lanka with her family, or they might take her there voluntarily.
"This intermediary step to custody of the state is just a front, just a guise," he comments. "Our sources say that she is going to be given over very quickly to the family, and then very quickly returned to Sri Lanka where she'll go into re-education camp."
What an unbelievable amount of hyperbolic imagination. Disgusting.
188 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:31:14pm |
re: #184 allegro
I'm available to poke him in the eye with a sharp stick... for a price.
I'm more than willing to do it for free. Hell, I'd even pay.
189 | jaunte Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:31:24pm |
re: #181 Charles
I wonder what golden age Beck is thinking of when he claims that once upon a time we were "united."
191 | irish rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:31:30pm |
re: #15 Sharmuta
Such a lovely guy. The recently departed should be proud to be spending time with such a charming person.
Iron Fist is posting over at C2, yes?
192 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:31:58pm |
re: #170 Charles
Beck started weeping again today, by the way.
Are his interns poking him with needles offscreen? Is he trying for an Oscar? Is he overdosing on Restasis?
193 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:32:17pm |
194 | bluecheese Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:32:36pm |
re: #177 Dr. Shalit
bluecheese -
To date, betting AGAINST the US - Long Term - has been a Sucker's Bet. With work, common sense and luck it will remain such. Just a small thing, check out today's Jerusalem Post. "Whaddabout" batteries made mainly of GLASS which degrades to sand, recyleable to glass. Contributors to the concept being the US, Japan and Israel. That might have a future, and is all.
-S-
It wasn't about betting against...
I got deleted.
Nevermind.
195 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:33:53pm |
re: #181 Charles
"Do I think you want to watch this show every night?"
Does he really want an answer to that?
196 | jaunte Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:34:04pm |
Beck's crying doesn't even seem attached to the thoughts he's expressing. It's really weird.
197 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:34:26pm |
re: #111 albusteve
I'm unaware of a comments section
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
go to the bottom where it says "show comments post comments" then click on it. you'll see plenty of disgusting racism in this one.
198 | Decatur Deb Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:34:29pm |
re: #151 Merryweather
Redistribution of wealth is a hominid idea. We mostly talk about
the direction of cashflow.
199 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:36:04pm |
re: #197 spacejesus
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
go to the bottom where it says "show comments post comments" then click on it. you'll see plenty of disgusting racism in this one.
I don't see a comments section on the page I use
200 | Varek Raith Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:36:10pm |
re: #197 spacejesus
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
go to the bottom where it says "show comments post comments" then click on it. you'll see plenty of disgusting racism in this one.
Indeed. Such disgusting people...
201 | Taqyia2Me Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:36:18pm |
I am beginning to think that, due to volume, SOME of the vile comments have to be astroturfing.
202 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:36:34pm |
re: #198 Decatur Deb
We mostly talk about the direction of cashflow.
Which has been decidedly in the up direction the past couple of decades, ever since the "trickle down" meme. I think "trickle down" doesn't mean what we were told it meant.
203 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:37:06pm |
re: #197 spacejesus
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
go to the bottom where it says "show comments post comments" then click on it. you'll see plenty of disgusting racism in this one.
How long until the news web pages realize that allowing comments is a really really bad idea?
204 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:37:07pm |
re: #199 albusteve
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
205 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:37:27pm |
He just... *sniff* loves America... *sniffle* so much... *sob*
206 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #203 CyanSnowHawk
How long until the news web pages realize that allowing comments is a really really bad idea?
Web sites actually.
208 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:38:42pm |
re: #204 albusteve
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
well yeah, click on an article first then each article has its own little comment section.
209 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:38:49pm |
From James Taranto
Great Moments in Socialized Medicine
Nine-year-old Bethany Dibbs of Poole, England, "was struck by a car as she crossed the road on her scooter and ended up in a coma with a fractured skull," reports London's Daily Mail:
An ambulance crew arrived and called for help, only to be told by their operator that under strict meal break regulations the closest additional crew still had a few minutes left on their lunch break.
The paramedics were informed it would take 20 minutes for another crew to arrive.
In the end one of them called their colleagues directly and they abandoned their lunch and raced to help. . . .
A spokesman for the South Western Ambulance Service Trust said it took its health and safety duties seriously.
He added: "In line with national guidelines which must be adhered to by all ambulance trusts, it is important all staff have dedicated 30-minute rest breaks which cannot be interrupted."
There is, however, a silver lining for young Bethany: "In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors, observes former Enron adviser Paul Krugman. "We've all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false."
210 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:39:02pm |
re: #201 Taqyia2Me
I am beginning to think that, due to volume, SOME of the vile comments have to be astroturfing.
With that volume, why would you think any "astroturfing" would be necessary?
212 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:39:23pm |
re: #187 Sharmuta
Fundamentalist group urging people to contact Ohio's Governor about Rifqa Bary:
What an unbelievable amount of hyperbolic imagination. Disgusting.
WTF are these people smoking?
Arrrggghhh...
213 | Irish Rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:39:59pm |
214 | SpaceJesus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:40:10pm |
re: #203 CyanSnowHawk
How long until the news web pages realize that allowing comments is a really really bad idea?
hey, it keeps me going these sites. every now and then i get a wild hair to see what crazy people have to say about things.
215 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:40:20pm |
re: #205 Sharmuta
I find it immensely ironic that most of the same people who decry the
'feminization' of men and say 'real men don't cry' will be lapping up every single one of Beck's tears.
216 | Irish Rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:40:43pm |
re: #211 Sharmuta
I don't think so.
I thought I saw some of his posts over there a couple of days ago.
If not, then I stand corrected.
217 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:40:57pm |
re: #208 spacejesus
well yeah, click on an article first then each article has its own little comment section.
ah yes...
218 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:41:34pm |
219 | Randall Gross Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:41:41pm |
re: #181 Charles
Glen Beck:
"Do you remember what life was like before I became old, bitter, and crazy? Let me wallow in nostaligic glamorized views of what life was never really like back then..."
220 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:41:50pm |
re: #213 Irish Rose
I'm not linking it, sorry.
I didn't ask you to...why the cryptic mystery?...what is it?
221 | Taqyia2Me Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:42:36pm |
re: #210 allegro
With that volume, why would you think any "astroturfing" would be necessary?
I'm not seeing any self correction or any admonishment there. Granted, I spend about twenty seconds before becoming overwhelmed by the visible stench.
222 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:42:43pm |
re: #201 Taqyia2Me
I am beginning to think that, due to volume, SOME of the vile comments have to be astroturfing.
I would think that the comment sections, especially on national audience sites like Breitbart, attract a disproportionate percentage of loonies. I comment on some local papers, but reading a few of the comments on the link provided above would keep me off that site. I suspect it does the same with other moderate voices. That leaves concentrated stupidity behind.
223 | wrenchwench Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:42:52pm |
re: #220 albusteve
I didn't ask you to...why the cryptic mystery?...what is it?
To get there, you must flounce.
224 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:43:00pm |
I just saw the Beck clip about Anita Dunn. Not to step into it too much here, but if she had referenced (as Beck mentioned) Hitler as one of her philosophical mentors, she'd be gone already. Just as bad, she references quotes from Mao to inspire students about individual choices and paths. Unreal.
Say what you want about Beck's stupid ass crying and kooky rants (they usually are), but he's got this one nailed. Bye Anita.
225 | Varek Raith Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:43:05pm |
227 | Taqyia2Me Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:44:00pm |
re: #222 CyanSnowHawk
I would think that the comment sections, especially on national audience sites like Breitbart, attract a disproportionate percentage of loonies. I comment on some local papers, but reading a few of the comments on the link provided above would keep me off that site. I suspect it does the same with other moderate voices. That leaves concentrated stupidity behind.
I'll run with that explanation, thanks!
228 | John Neverbend Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:44:22pm |
re: #203 CyanSnowHawk
How long until the news web pages realize that allowing comments is a really really bad idea?
The day after they realize that having people call in to talk radio stations is a self-stultifying process.
230 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:44:48pm |
re: #225 Varek Raith
Stalker blog.
seems a bit silly to speak in code...just name the damned thing so I can check it out...what's the big deal?
232 | Ojoe Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:47:16pm |
Time for a little hippie Rx for the current nasty politics:
When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!
Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revalation
And the mind's true liberation
Aquarius!
Aquarius!
When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!
OOOooo!
233 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:47:43pm |
re: #228 John Neverbend
The day after they realize that having people call in to talk radio stations is a self-stultifying process.
I don't know of any radio show that doesn't screen their callers, but I see many examples of news sites not moderating their comments effectively.
234 | Sharmuta Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:47:50pm |
re: #215 Merryweather
I find it immensely ironic that most of the same people who decry the
'feminization' of men and say 'real men don't cry' will be lapping up every single one of Beck's tears.
Absolutely.
235 | Irish Rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:48:19pm |
re: #230 albusteve
seems a bit silly to speak in code...just name the damned thing so I can check it out...what's the big deal?
Let's just say they're a blog where some of the people that used to post here think that Deuce is just a peachy keen place with a lot of great people, and really nice administrators.
236 | sngnsgt Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:48:26pm |
re: #231 Sharmuta
DOH! I thought we were still talking about his crying issues.
237 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:50:45pm |
238 | reine.de.tout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:51:34pm |
re: #215 Merryweather
I find it immensely ironic that most of the same people who decry the
'feminization' of men and say 'real men don't cry' will be lapping up every single one of Beck's tears.
Today, I was thinking about my Dad, and how when I was a teen and had a boyfriend break-up, he did not allow any weeping and wailing drama. In typical teen fashion, I thought he was "unfair", and maybe he was unfair and a bit cold about it all - HOWEVER, I did learn how to deal with my emotions in an rational and mature manner.
Beck seems to have a huge gap in his emotional maturity. Somebody who should have taught him how to deal with things in their proper place, didn't teach him a thing. He really needs to get a grip.
(that weeping drives me nuts).
239 | John Neverbend Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:51:44pm |
re: #233 CyanSnowHawk
I don't know of any radio show that doesn't screen their callers, but I see many examples of news sites not moderating their comments effectively.
I didn't mean it in that way, although the screening process isn't foolproof. I just wonder sometimes why people bother to call into talk-radio shows. It's either to tell the host how wonderful he or she is or it's to pick a fight. The latter is particularly stupid as the caller will be shouted down and cut off.
240 | MinisterO Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:53:02pm |
re: #158 albusteve
stiffing shareholders in GM redo and giving 17% of the company to the UAW
When you say it like that it sounds really bad.
However, GM was out of cash and shareholders would have received nothing in liquidation. Those expecting a government bailout to restore equity gambled and lost.
IIRC the UAW deal was done to prevent workers and retirees from losing their pensions. They would have received pennies on the dollar of "guaranteed" benefits.
So no, not Marxist, not even close.
241 | John Neverbend Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:53:09pm |
re: #225 Varek Raith
Stalker blog.
In best Kosh voice. "If you go to the stalker blog, you will die."
243 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:53:55pm |
re: #235 Irish Rose
Let's just say they're a blog where some of the people that used to post here think that Deuce is just a peachy keen place with a lot of great people, and really nice administrators.
no let's not...I want to know who they are...after all this I'm somewhat mystified why you don't name these stalker blogs...is there something I'm missing?
244 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:54:09pm |
re: #235 Irish Rose
Let's just say they're a blog where some of the people that used to post here think that Deuce is just a peachy keen place with a lot of great people, and really nice administrators.
They're all about the tolerance.
They tolerate racism.
They tolerate posting threats.
They tolerate advocating violence.
They tolerate religious bigotry.
See, they're all about the tolerance.
245 | Ojoe Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:55:05pm |
More Rx
Melting Pot — Blue mink
Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of red indian boy
Oh like a curly latin kinkies
Oh lordy, lordy, mixed with yellow chinkees, yeah
You know you lump it all together
And you got a recipe for a get along scene
Oh what a beautiful dream
If it could only come true, you know, you know
What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough enough enough to take
The world and all its got
And keep it stirring for
A hundred years or more
And turn out coffee coloured people by the score
Rabbis and the friars
Vishnus and the gurus
We got the beatles or the sun god
Well it really doesnt matter
What religion you choose
And be thankful little mrs. graceful
You know that livin could be tasteful
We should all get together in a lovin machine
I think Ill call up the queen
It s only fair that she knows, you know, you know
What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough enough enough to take
The world and all its got
And keep it stirring for
A hundred years or more
And turn out coffee coloured people by the score
246 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:55:13pm |
re: #238 reine.de.tout
Except it's all an act. His tears have already been proven to be fake. I'm absolutely convinced he doesn't even believe the crazy shit he spouts. He's a cynical SOB who's playing his deluded fans for fools and money.
247 | sngnsgt Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:56:44pm |
WTF, where?
A million jobs credited to stimulus plan
President Barack Obama's $787 billion economic recovery plan has created or saved roughly 1 million jobs since it was enacted in February, an administration economic official said.
Jared Bernstein, chief economic adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, cited private estimates and a preliminary government report that showed more than 30,380 jobs have been created directly from federal contracts awarded with stimulus finds. The result has been a "much needed lift in a very difficult period for our economy," Bernstein said in a statement.
248 | flywheel Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:57:02pm |
re: #238 reine.de.tout
Today, I was thinking about my Dad, and how when I was a teen and had a boyfriend break-up, he did not allow any weeping and wailing drama. In typical teen fashion, I thought he was "unfair", and maybe he was unfair and a bit cold about it all - HOWEVER, I did learn how to deal with my emotions in an rational and mature manner.
Beck seems to have a huge gap in his emotional maturity. Somebody who should have taught him how to deal with things in their proper place, didn't teach him a thing. He really needs to get a grip.
(that weeping drives me nuts).
Wheter you like him or hate him, the tears are a little annoying.
249 | SixDegrees Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:57:06pm |
re: #246 Merryweather
Except it's all an act. His tears have already been proven to be fake. I'm absolutely convinced he doesn't even believe the crazy shit he spouts. He's a cynical SOB who's playing his deluded fans for fools and money.
I think he does believe large portions of it. But I agree that he's a one-hit wonder who's found his formula for success, and will keep repeating it until it stops bringing in cash.
250 | reine.de.tout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:57:18pm |
re: #246 Merryweather
Except it's all an act. His tears have already been proven to be fake. I'm absolutely convinced he doesn't even believe the crazy shit he spouts. He's a cynical SOB who's playing his deluded fans for fools and money.
Oh, I agree.
But how he comes off is emotionally immature and lacking.
And fake.
If he's that delicate that he bursts into tears over any little thing, the guy needs to be somewhere else other than on air.
251 | CyanSnowHawk Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:57:26pm |
re: #240 MinisterO
When you say it like that it sounds really bad.
However, GM was out of cash and shareholders would have received nothing in liquidation. Those expecting a government bailout to restore equity gambled and lost.
IIRC the UAW deal was done to prevent workers and retirees from losing their pensions. They would have received pennies on the dollar of "guaranteed" benefits.
So no, not Marxist, not even close.
IIRC it was the UAW Pension Group, not the actual union which apparently is a separate entity. Still looks like a big conflict of interest to me.
252 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:57:34pm |
re: #240 MinisterO
When you say it like that it sounds really bad.
However, GM was out of cash and shareholders would have received nothing in liquidation. Those expecting a government bailout to restore equity gambled and lost.
IIRC the UAW deal was done to prevent workers and retirees from losing their pensions. They would have received pennies on the dollar of "guaranteed" benefits.
So no, not Marxist, not even close.
GM should have declared bankrupcy...too bad, but that's the way it worked and then they may have been able to break the death grip of the UAW, the very people that helped drive them out of business...instead BO awarded a huge share of the business to his traditional voting bloc...
253 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:58:04pm |
re: #243 albusteve
Ever heard of not feeding trolls? Well, ignoring stalker sites falls under the same general principle.
254 | Killgore Trout Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:58:05pm |
255 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:58:20pm |
re: #243 albusteve
no let's not...I want to know who they are...after all this I'm somewhat mystified why you don't name these stalker blogs...is there something I'm missing?
If you want to know who they are, email Rose or someone who has the skinny...no need in giving the vile stalkers recognition in a public thread, any more than is absolutely necessary.
256 | Liberally Conservative Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:59:03pm |
On a lighter note,some stuff white people like!
257 | Varek Raith Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:59:17pm |
re: #254 Killgore Trout
Fark goofs on Hot Air...
Moderate Republicans have become a poison to the GOP, and should be ignored and marginalized when considering serious Presidential contenders such as Sarah Palin
Heh.
258 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:00:54pm |
re: #224 borgcube
I just saw the Beck clip about Anita Dunn. Not to step into it too much here, but if she had referenced (as Beck mentioned) Hitler as one of her philosophical mentors, she'd be gone already. Just as bad, she references quotes from Mao to inspire students about individual choices and paths. Unreal.
Say what you want about Beck's stupid ass crying and kooky rants (they usually are), but he's got this one nailed. Bye Anita.
Hitler's evil was race-based, whereas Stalin's and Mao's and the other communist dictators' was class-based. To people who came up in universities run by Sixties radicals, jailing and killing millions of land owners simply isn't as wrong as what Hitler did.
259 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:01:05pm |
re: #253 Merryweather
Ever heard of not feeding trolls? Well, ignoring stalker sites falls under the same general principle.
plenty of people here pay alot of attention to them...I just want to drop the pretense and find out what their names are...it has nothing to do with feeding trolls on my part...others do that, the very people who know who they are and fight with them...your post is wildly misguided
260 | SixDegrees Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:01:39pm |
re: #252 albusteve
GM should have declared bankrupcy...too bad, but that's the way it worked and then they may have been able to break the death grip of the UAW, the very people that helped drive them out of business...instead BO awarded a huge share of the business to his traditional voting bloc...
Sort of. That share of the business does the union no good, however, unless share prices improve. And they can't just dump the shares they have; that would dilute the value of the stock, causing them to sell at a loss, and undermine confidence in the company.
I agree that a true corporate leader would have taken his company into bankruptcy if there was no other alternative, without taking government handouts and all the strings that came attached to them. But it was the board's choice, and it was made with full knowledge of what they were signing up to.
261 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:02:27pm |
re: #255 talon_262
If you want to know who they are, email Rose or someone who has the skinny...no need in giving the vile stalkers recognition in a public thread, any more than is absolutely necessary.
they get tons of recognition here...wtf?...why the sekrit?
262 | Digital Display Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:02:39pm |
re: #243 albusteve
no let's not...I want to know who they are...after all this I'm somewhat mystified why you don't name these stalker blogs...is there something I'm missing?
Why should we link and advertise them here?
These are people that have trashed lizards..Posted private information..Names, Addresses and lies...
It's been done to me out of revenge and spite cause I like it here...
Jesus H. Christ Steve..If you want to know who they are Google them or do some research on your own...
We owe them fucking nothing for the hated...
263 | dugmartsch Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:03:03pm |
re: #240 MinisterO
When you say it like that it sounds really bad.
However, GM was out of cash and shareholders would have received nothing in liquidation. Those expecting a government bailout to restore equity gambled and lost.
IIRC the UAW deal was done to prevent workers and retirees from losing their pensions. They would have received pennies on the dollar of "guaranteed" benefits.
So no, not Marxist, not even close.
Whoops, last post got rather truncated and it was a long one, too.
I'll just summarize and say that the dude doesn't know what a Marxist is. He's thinking Leninist. That's what happens when fascism meets Marxism. A Marxist would fire GMs management and replace them with bureaucrats. Profits would be paid to the government and prices would be set by a central planning committee. And considering Obama didn't even push for nationalization of any of the car companies kind of kills his Leninist credentials. His scaling back executive authority also puts a dent in that contention, too.
What I love is that people crying MARX!SM!!! at the top of their lungs forget that fannie and freddie were nationalized in SEPT 2008, a good four months before Obama took office. So the dude who nationalized trillions of dollars of debt is what?
264 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:04:02pm |
re: #254 Killgore Trout
Fark goofs on Hot Air...
Moderate Republicans have become a poison to the GOP, and should be ignored and marginalized when considering serious Presidential contenders such as Sarah Palin
The way the wingnuts are going, it's probably a truism for them...and that's sad.
265 | _RememberTonyC Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:04:26pm |
glenn beck's new theme song?
266 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:05:28pm |
re: #260 SixDegrees
Sort of. That share of the business does the union no good, however, unless share prices improve. And they can't just dump the shares they have; that would dilute the value of the stock, causing them to sell at a loss, and undermine confidence in the company.
I agree that a true corporate leader would have taken his company into bankruptcy if there was no other alternative, without taking government handouts and all the strings that came attached to them. But it was the board's choice, and it was made with full knowledge of what they were signing up to.
and has been for decades...I have no sympathy for them either...bailing out GM with public money is criminal imo...then, of course to sweeten the pie, the put 'cash for clunkers' on us...it's all wrong
267 | Irish Rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:07:27pm |
re: #244 CyanSnowHawk
They're all about the tolerance.
They tolerate racism.
They tolerate posting threats.
They tolerate advocating violence.
They tolerate religious bigotry.See, they're all about the tolerance.
Indeed.
It must be a very cozy feeling to have no concern or consideration for anyone except yourselves. Nothing but joy, happiness, peace, contentment and fruit cup.
Their former friends here are being trashed and stalked, and they're having their lives threatened by those really nice people over at Deuce, but what the hey? It's all good.
268 | flywheel Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:08:09pm |
re: #43 sattv4u2
re: #36 allegro
Amen. As someone who was born and raised and lived around the Boston area for most of the 1st 45 years of my life, and who now lives about 20 miles outside of Atlanta I can say I saw/heard much more racism per capita in Boston than hereAlso ,,, try Detroit!
Welcome South, brother.
269 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:08:48pm |
re: #259 albusteve
plenty of people here pay alot of attention to them...I just want to drop the pretense and find out what their names are...it has nothing to do with feeding trolls on my part...others do that, the very people who know who they are and fight with them...your post is wildly misguided
What pretense? Why should we recognize people whose sole reason for existing appears to be to spew bile at Charles and this site?
270 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:09:12pm |
re: #262 HoosierHoops
Why should we link and advertise them here?
These are people that have trashed lizards..Posted private information..Names, Addresses and lies...
It's been done to me out of revenge and spite cause I like it here...
Jesus H. Christ Steve..If you want to know who they are Google them or do some research on your own...
We owe them fucking nothing for the hated...
I know who LGF2...that was posted here...I didn't suggest we owed them anything, I merely wanted their names so I can see for myself...the whole thing has become very cliquish...posting their names is hardly the same as the rest of the attention they get here...Jesus H. Christ, I'm just curious
271 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:09:33pm |
I liked what someone said: When the communists came to power, they took the businessmen out to be shot. When the fascists came to power, they took the businessmen out to lunch--where they were told to obey orders or be shot.
272 | Irish Rose Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:10:54pm |
re: #262 HoosierHoopsWhy should we link and advertise them here?
These are people that have trashed lizards..Posted private information..Names, Addresses and lies...
It's been done to me out of revenge and spite cause I like it here...
Jesus H. Christ Steve..If you want to know who they are Google them or do some research on your own...
We owe them fucking nothing for the hated...
I regret that I have but one upding to give.
273 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:11:31pm |
re: #269 Merryweather
What pretense? Why should we recognize people whose sole reason for existing appears to be to spew bile at Charles and this site?
the pretense that it is okay to divulge LGF2 but for some reason not the others...are you saying that by not typing out their name they get no recognition here?
274 | Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:11:39pm |
re: #196 jaunte
Beck's crying doesn't even seem attached to the thoughts he's expressing. It's really weird.
I don't think of his brain so much as a latticework of connections, so much as a grocery store gumball machine. It's full of loose stuff, it rattles, and you never know what you're going to get when you put in your nickel and turn the crank.
275 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:12:11pm |
re: #270 albusteve
I know who LGF2...that was posted here...I didn't suggest we owed them anything, I merely wanted their names so I can see for myself...the whole thing has become very cliquish...posting their names is hardly the same as the rest of the attention they get here...Jesus H. Christ, I'm just curious
Maybe someone could offer to email albusteve...?
276 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:12:30pm |
re: #272 Irish Rose
I regret that I have but one upding to give.
'they' read this blog...you make no sense
277 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:12:44pm |
re: #258 The Sanity Inspector
And now these 60's folks apparently are infesting the White House. It's disgusting. I think it's a bit of an understatement to say that the massive crimes by Mao and Stalin were simply class-based, particularity in the case of Stalin, who was as evil as it gets.
Anyone who in their heart and mind enthusiastically endorses Mao as an inspiration and more, as Anita Dunn has, should not be allowed a visitor pass for a White House tour, let alone sit in meetings with our President in the Oval Office.
278 | MinisterO Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:15:11pm |
re: #252 albusteve
GM should have declared bankrupcy...
Shareholders would have gotten nothing in that case. Obama didn't "stiff" shareholders - they were screwed regardless.
too bad, but that's the way it worked and then they may have been able to break the death grip of the UAW, the very people that helped drive them out of business...instead BO awarded a huge share of the business to his traditional voting bloc...
It certainly would have broken the UAW's hold. The workers and retirees would have been "stiffed" out of their pensions. The equity stake UAW received was so that a fraction of these benefits could be paid.
279 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:16:29pm |
A little touch of Seventies soft rock to mellow this thread out, and BBL.
280 | Mr. Crankypants Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:17:32pm |
re: #277 borgcube
Give it a farking rest. It strikes me that the current atmosphere of wanting to drive people out of the government because of some fauxrage by Glenn "My Tears courtesy of Vicks VapoRub" Beck is a complete farce.
281 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:18:48pm |
re: #277 borgcube
Quoting Mao is not the same as an endorsement.
282 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:18:57pm |
re: #273 albusteve
Oh just use teh Google. I personally think that bringing attention to the real bottom-feeders who hate Charles on Charles' own site is pretty disrespectful to our host.
283 | Digital Display Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:20:22pm |
re: #276 albusteve
'they' read this blog...you make no sense
If it is so important to you email Charles and ask him...
284 | jaunte Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:20:47pm |
re: #277 borgcube
Anyone who in their heart and mind enthusiastically endorses Mao as an inspiration and more, as Anita Dunn has, should not be allowed a visitor pass for a White House tour, let alone sit in meetings with our President in the Oval Office.
John Glenn apparently thought she was good enough to work on his campaign.
285 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:24:34pm |
re: #277 borgcube
I guess this guy couldn't have passed your ideological purity test either:
286 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:27:06pm |
287 | albusteve Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:28:26pm |
re: #282 Merryweather
Oh just use teh Google. I personally think that bringing attention to the real bottom-feeders who hate Charles on Charles' own site is pretty disrespectful to our host.
they know who they are and many people here know who they are...it's not about attention, it's about information
288 | allegro Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:29:10pm |
As adults, can we not accept that nothing is 100% black or 100% white? Even total assholes can have gentle thoughts, just as pacifists can have violent ones. Inspiration can come from many sources, in many ways. Because one can find a nugget of wisdom or thoughtfulness from a given source that many find otherwise disagreeable in action, does that make that nugget worthless and the one who quoted it a source of scorn?
289 | simoom Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:31:15pm |
re: #59 Charles
[Link: hotair.com...]
Why does Obama use that half assed ebonics speak? Does he think it endears him to folks?
[Link: hotair.com...]
You know what I hate more than the kid’s scripted question (which I propose was fed to him by an overweight Marxist schoolteacher by the way)?The way Obama struts and swaggers around in that phony, folksy way like he’s so desperate to connect with the ordinary people he has absolutely nothing in common with. “Tha’s wh’am talking ’bout” etc. It’s horrible, like a drunken parent trying to rap.
He’s obviously trying to let his black half dominate the white half he’s ashamed of, sort of like a mixed-race Dr. Strangelove.
[Link: hotair.com...]
Why do people hate you mein fuhrer?
[Link: hotair.com...]
It would be so much simpler if Herr Obama and his Brown Shirts just called them Jews, but I guess that would be too obvious.
[Link: hotair.com...]
Hey, kid! He wants to kill your grandma and grandpa.
//death panels
[Link: hotair.com...]
Yo 4th grader,We DON’T “HATE” BHO!
It’s just that some of us are smart enough that we won’t fall for all socialist/Marxist schuck and jive from a smooth talking Kenyan hustler.
[Link: hotair.com...]
Well lad . . . It’s because he is a hard core Marxist who hates this nation and wants to rip out its Christian-Judeo heart, its traditions and its heritage. He wants to destroy the Republic and Rebuild his version of a utopian socialist state . . . and that sonny is why people hate him.
[Link: hotair.com...]
StoneKrab, I noticed it too. The way Obama strutted around the stage trying to wax all folksy with his “that’s what I’m talk’n about [Willis],” like he is some character out of a 1970s sit-com is well beneath the dignity of his office.
[Link: hotair.com...]
Answer: “Because I’m an arrogant Marxist racist and because I like gladiator movies. Do you like gladiator movies, son?”
[Link: hotair.com...]
The screen-cap looks like an updated version of this poster. I wonder why?
//hitler youth
[Link: hotair.com...]
HE’S A COMMUNIST RADICAL. Where is Joe McCarthy when you need him?
[Link: hotair.com...]
I don’t hate Osama Obama.
...
Not hating him doesn’t mean I can’t pray that the Traitor-in-Chief is soon removed from office and thrown back into the cesspool that made him what he is today.
290 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:32:25pm |
re: #287 albusteve
they know who they are and many people here know who they are...it's not about attention, it's about information
Why the heck would you want to know more about people who throw the most disgusting mud at the owner of and some commenters at a site you visit and I assume, like?
291 | MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:33:12pm |
re: #286 albusteve
it's a sekrit...one has to figure it out on their own
I can't remember the full name...Conservative something or other. I see your point about us referring to the Deuce, but it is frankly up to Charles, IMO...it's his joint.
292 | Digital Display Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:34:39pm |
re: #286 albusteve
it's a sekrit...one has to figure it out on their own
Better yet..Blue your nic and give me your real name..Address and phone number..I'll post it on the Internet and you can put up with all the dozens of prank calls from unknown Caller ID's...
It's not a secret for some of us..It's called harassment...
Join the fucking secret club here..You're going to love it Steve..You're just going to love it...
/Sorry I was rude to you..But things have happened here and it hasn't been about curiosity or information...
Blue thy Nic big boy
293 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:35:18pm |
Why does Obama use that half assed ebonics speak? Does he think it endears him to folks?
You think that commenter meant Steele but force of habit made him type Obama?
294 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:36:22pm |
re: #281 bratwurst
Watch the clip. She's a fan of Mao. In fact, she's a devotee. She "turns" to him in her own words. Insane. And the context is horrible. Quoting Mao in regards to his war with the KMT to advance ideas of individual choices? That's an endorsement, and she also seemed to be pleased that he defeated the Nationalists. It was also embarrassingly idiotic on her part.
Just fight your fight kids, like Hitler did...er, Mao. Sorry.
295 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:38:11pm |
re: #294 borgcube
She quoted Mao. IMO that is a leap from endorsing him. The man in the pic below SHOOK THE MANS HAND. Which is worse?
296 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:39:47pm |
re: #285 bratwurst
Haha! I seriously doubt however that Tricky Dicky kept Mao's Little Red Book at his bedside like Anita Dunn apparently does.
Look, if you've got no problem with her saying that she turns to one of the world's worst mass murderers of all time for philosophical guidance, there's nothing I can say.
297 | Mr. Crankypants Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:40:33pm |
re: #295 bratwurst
She quoted Mao. IMO that is a leap from endorsing him. The man in the pic below SHOOK THE MANS HAND. Which is worse?
Frankly this is similar to the kind of games people play in grade school.
"Oh no! Andrea has Maoist Cooties!"
298 | Merryweather Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:44:01pm |
re: #295 bratwurst
It's like the difference between Obama bowing to the Saudi king and Bush going in for the full on kiss, and holding his hand.
299 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:44:59pm |
re: #296 borgcube
Haha! I seriously doubt however that Tricky Dicky kept Mao's Little Red Book at his bedside like Anita Dunn apparently does.
Look, if you've got no problem with her saying that she turns to one of the world's worst mass murderers of all time for philosophical guidance, there's nothing I can say.
I would not argue that she goes too far in her apparent admiration for Mao. But I cannot accept this makes her a Marxist who approves of everything Mao did any more than Nixon's handshake symbolized similar approval.
300 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:45:29pm |
re: #295 bratwurst
One personal. One political. One turns to the mass murderer for direction, the other has to deal with realities of the day.
If she inserted the name "Hitler" or "Pol Pot" for Mao, you'd be okay with her? Really?
301 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:46:46pm |
re: #299 bratwurst
I agree. But don't you find it even a wee bit disturbing?
302 | bratwurst Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:48:11pm |
re: #301 borgcube
As I already said, she goes too far for my comfort.
303 | borgcube Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:49:09pm |
re: #302 bratwurst
Fair enough. Gotta run bratwurst, and you're making me hungry.
307 | Timmeh Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:18:39pm |
Anita Dunn names Mao Zedong her “favorite philosopher”
And now, just seconds ago, I watched Glenn Beck take Anita Dunn’s scalp, playing again and again a video clip of her telling an assembly of high school students, “My two favorite philosophers are Mao Tse-Tung and Mother Teresa.” He kept playing it, holding up a picture of Mao and reciting the usual litany, including the claim that Mao had killed more people than Hitler (70 million is the number he used). It was devastating. Beck is evil, but you have to give him credit for cunning and for dramatic effect. This made for very good theater. And you have to wonder, could Dunn actually have said this? How could she not see the danger?
I'm a democrat and I voted for Obama, but for somebody who's supposed to be a "communications director," even if this quote is taken out of context, that's just dumb. (Personally, I don't much care for her other "favorite philosopher" either: Hitchens on Mother Teresa) But admiring Mother Teresa is at least more understandable than Chairman frickin Mao for Ed's sake.
I think maybe she needs to go the way of Van Jones. I'm no fan of Beck, I hate the lunatic, but Beck didn't make her say such a stupid thing.
308 | freetoken Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:28:25pm |
re: #307 Timmeh
Did she say she "admired" Mao, or are you just reading something into what she said?
It is common with Karl Marx, that the reactionary/revanchist expresses revulsion when someone else mentions "marxist" in a historical or political philosophy context. Karl Marx ought to be studied, IMO, because it turns out he was one of the more important people in the era of the change from the 19th to the 20th century.
Likewise, if one is to understand the world today and in particularly China, one has to appreciate what Mao did. And by "appreciate" I mean understand the scope of the influence, not "admire".
309 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:33:19pm |
re: #308 freetoken
Did she say she "admired" Mao, or are you just reading something into what she said?
It is common with Karl Marx, that the reactionary/revanchist expresses revulsion when someone else mentions "marxist" in a historical or political philosophy context. Karl Marx ought to be studied, IMO, because it turns out he was one of the more important people in the era of the change from the 19th to the 20th century.
Likewise, if one is to understand the world today and in particularly China, one has to appreciate what Mao did. And by "appreciate" I mean understand the scope of the influence, not "admire".
It's a speech of course. All she said was regarding the admiration of two of her most favorite political philosophers:
"...the two people I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point..."
It was essentially regarding her point and not an overall admiration.
Once again, "just because someone studies the devil doesn't mean they worship him."
310 | Mr. Crankypants Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:35:24pm |
re: #309 Gus 802
Once again, "just because someone studies the devil doesn't mean they worship him."
But we couldn't get all outragey and stuff over that!
311 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:36:07pm |
re: #310 PT Barnum
But we couldn't get all outragey and stuff over that!
Nope, not at all.
Glenn Beck. Making mountains out of mole hills since 2009.
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312 | Mr. Crankypants Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:39:39pm |
re: #311 Gus 802
Reminds me of the lady who complained about people humming dirty songs when they walked by her house.
313 | Timmeh Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:52:27pm |
re: #308 freetoken
Did she say she "admired" Mao, or are you just reading something into what she said?
If there's a full transcript of what she said, I'd like to read it.
One of my favorite quotes comes from Stalin. Not that I admire the guy.
"One man's death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic."
Glenn Beck would probably take what I just wrote out of context and say that I admire Stalin, but I just like that quote because it's true: millions of deaths are too much for us to comprehend emotionally, but we can partially understand the Holocaust by reading The Diary of Anne Frank.
314 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:56:32pm |
re: #296 borgcube
Haha! I seriously doubt however that Tricky Dicky kept Mao's Little Red Book at his bedside like Anita Dunn apparently does.
Look, if you've got no problem with her saying that she turns to one of the world's worst mass murderers of all time for philosophical guidance, there's nothing I can say.
See what I mean? Mao's crimes just don't resonate viscerally with people the way Hitler's do. Because of famine, natural disasters, and warfare, we've become conditioned to the idea of Asians dying like gnats by the thousands. Throw in an ideological vision which Western leftists cannot bring themselves to altogether deplore, and Mao is considered by The Herd Of Independent Minds as simply not that bad.
For those willing to peel back the layers of myth and hero-worship, I recommend Jung Chang's Mao: The Unknown Story.
315 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:01:57pm |
re: #288 allegro
As adults, can we not accept that nothing is 100% black or 100% white? Even total assholes can have gentle thoughts, just as pacifists can have violent ones. Inspiration can come from many sources, in many ways. Because one can find a nugget of wisdom or thoughtfulness from a given source that many find otherwise disagreeable in action, does that make that nugget worthless and the one who quoted it a source of scorn?
My father is a Korean War veteran. Over 30,000 of America's finest are dead because of Mao. Hell yes, I scorn him.
316 | sandbox Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:02:26pm |
For me Glen Beck's popularity is a case of "fools rush in where wise men fear to tread". The MSM dosen't take the trouble to check the background of Obama's appointees, so super-partisan people like Beck and Hannity are left to do the job. It's not pretty.
317 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:03:39pm |
re: #309 Gus 802
It's a speech of course. All she said was regarding the admiration of two of her most favorite political philosophers:
"...the two people I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point..."
It was essentially regarding her point and not an overall admiration.
Once again, "just because someone studies the devil doesn't mean they worship him."
I dunno: "...people I turn to most..." sounds pretty personal and admiring, not dispassionate.
318 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:05:16pm |
re: #317 The Sanity Inspector
I dunno: "...people I turn to most..." sounds pretty personal and admiring, not dispassionate.
Will Beck condemn Bush for recommending a Mao bio to Rove?
October 15, 2009 6:17 pm ET by Matt Gertz
In the wake of Glenn Beck's rather bizarre one hour rant, in which he played a clip of White House communications director Anita Dunn calling Mao Tse-Tung one of her two "favorite political philosophers," along with Mother Theresa, the following excerpt from a December 2008 Karl Rove column in the Wall Street Journal seems relevant:
Rove: President Bush "encouraged me to read a Mao biography."
With only five days left, my lead is insurmountable. The competition can't catch up. And for the third year in a row, I'll triumph. In second place will be the president of the United States. Our contest is not about sports or politics. It's about books.
It all started on New Year's Eve in 2005. President Bush asked what my New Year's resolutions were. I told him that as a regular reader who'd gotten out of the habit, my goal was to read a book a week in 2006. Three days later, we were in the Oval Office when he fixed me in his sights and said, "I'm on my second. Where are you?" Mr. Bush had turned my resolution into a contest.
By coincidence, we were both reading Doris Kearns Goodwin's "Team of Rivals." The president jumped to a slim early lead and remained ahead until March, when I moved decisively in front. The competition soon spun out of control. We kept track not just of books read, but also the number of pages and later the combined size of each book's pages -- its "Total Lateral Area."
We recommended volumes to each other (for example, he encouraged me to read a Mao biography; I suggested a book on Reconstruction's unhappy end). We discussed the books and wrote thank-you notes to some authors.
319 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:06:16pm |
But if you go carryin' pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow...
320 | The Sanity Inspector Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:10:41pm |
re: #318 Gus 802
Oh, don't pretend to be an idiot. I myself just recommended a Mao biography, upthread. That's not praise for Mao.
321 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:10:59pm |
re: #318 Gus 802
And...
Goldwater adviser: "in all ... campaigns where I have served as consultant I have followed the advice of Mao Tse-tung."
Here's another relevant passage, from Richard Hofstadter's 1964 essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics:
In his recent book, How to Win an Election, Stephen C. Shadegg cites a statement attributed to Mao Tse-tung: “Give me just two or three men in a village and I will take the village.” Shadegg comments: “ In the Goldwater campaigns of 1952 and 1958 and in all other campaigns where I have served as consultant I have followed the advice of Mao Tse-tung.” “I would suggest,” writes senator Goldwater in Why Not Victory? “that we analyze and copy the strategy of the enemy; theirs has worked and ours has not.
322 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:11:50pm |
re: #320 The Sanity Inspector
Oh, don't pretend to be an idiot. I myself just recommended a Mao biography, upthread. That's not praise for Mao.
I'd appreciate if you would lower the discourse to adhominums.
Thank you.
323 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:12:07pm |
324 | Mr. Crankypants Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:19:09pm |
re: #323 Gus 802
Based on the arguments being made, resorting to ad hominems would raise the level of discourse.
325 | Gus Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:22:10pm |
re: #324 PT Barnum
Based on the arguments being made, resorting to ad hominems would raise the level of discourse.
I really wasn't paying attention to what went on up-thread. Least of all I am not interested in anyone that says "I am pretending to be an idiot." Frankly this Mao thing is much adieu about nothing.