Smokin’!

It’s hazy like that outside right now. Supposed to be a Category 4 bearing down on us this Halloween weekend but no rainfall just yet.

*cough*

A foggy morning at the beach… the mist hanging still in the air, punctuated by the erect smoke stacks of Industry…

Ah, industry… reminds me of Japan, a place where items are still made… including anime, perhaps Japan’s greatest gift to the world in the past 20 years.

Just ask Pikachu!

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re: #2 laZardo

Looks like it will mostly be to your south:

wunderground.com

Mmm, Raisin bagel w/ starbaby cream cheese…

re: #4 freetoken

A foggy morning at the beach… the mist hanging still in the air, punctuated by the erect smoke stacks of Industry…

Ah, industry… reminds me of Japan, a place where items are still made… including anime, perhaps Japan’s greatest gift to the world in the past 20 years.

Just ask Pikachu!

Speaking of pokeymanz, this is where my username comes from.

/and no, i dont liek mudkipz.

That’s sorta depressing.

re: #4 freetoken

Nooo…

Not anime. I once had a dreadful blind date wherein he droned on and on about anime, medieval weaponry, and his mother. It completely put me off anime forever!

re: #5 freetoken

Looks like it will mostly be to your south:

[Link: www.wunderground.com…]

Only just. Having the eye right over my house in the next 48 hours doesn’t seem unlikely at this point.

re: #9 anie

I’m gonna guess he didn’t get a second date…

He really talked about his mother??

G’night everyone.

re: #12 Cheechako

Night Cheech.

Gonna head out to fetch some modeling cement. Been getting back into putting together scale model things for the first time in a decade. BBL.

re: #2 laZardo

The quiet before the storm, LaZardo.

Born to Be Wild.

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re: #11 JasonA

No second date, but he tried. I even had to use the tired “it’s not you, it’s me” line to get rid of him. He did indeed talk about his mother, and how I might want to deal with her in the future. This was a mere 20 minutes into dinner, confirming that there would be no second date. I quickly changed the subject and was then subjected to a great deal of explanation surrounding anime. Thus my terror at the subject.

Oh…and tonight’s Most Unfortunate Headline.

re: #17 anie

The “Mommy complex”…?

Does viemo embed here?

This is awesome graffiti animation.

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re: #18 Fenway_Nation

I read about that. It’s just weird.

Definately a Mommy complex. But maybe it is me…and I am just the wrong sort of woman to be impressed by a mama’s boy who like anime and playing knight. Perhaps if I were a damsel in distress it would have worked out…

re: #17 anie

Wow. I usually try to make first dates as comfortable as possible. That sounds like the complete opposite. Sounds like it was certainly memorable, though.

Okay, now I’m sleepy.

re: #17 anie

Going Dutch probably didn’t help, either.

re: #22 anie

Definately a Mommy complex. But maybe it is me…and I am just the wrong sort of woman to be impressed by a mama’s boy who like anime and playing knight. Perhaps if I were a damsel in distress it would have worked out…

Did he at least pay?

It could have been worse. He could have spent the whole time talking about Hentai.

re: #24 Fenway_Nation

It was certainly memorable. And convinced me that blind dates were entirely unecesary in my life! Oh, well, at least the sushi was good and I have a funny story about it. But he did pay. I’m sure his chivalrous sensibilities required it.

Of course it could have been worse…
I am trying to think of how.
Perhaps I should be more charitable and hope he has found himself some kind of crazy young earth creationist girl who will worship the ground he walks on.
/

re: #26 anie

/it was the code of the cybernetic ninja samurai.

re: #18 Fenway_Nation

So I was reading about this. This is of course tragic, but what is this girl’s mother thinking? The animals are probably rabid, or have something wrong that would make them attack a person, which is totally out of character. I like animals too, but not at the expense of them attacking other humans.

re: #29 anie

I know…she needs to stop and think that one through. A pack of wild predators who have already killed, displayed zero fear of humans roving free and possibly developing a taste for human blood.

/what’s the big deal? Sheesh…

re: #30 Fenway_Nation
Precisely. And on that high note, I am out. Good night!

Posting this for no other reason that I like it.

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BTW- notice how it took as long as the first batter for Pedro to face to get a ‘Who’s Your Daddy?’ chant going at Yankee Stadium tonight?

Pedro has this tendency to lose the battle but win the war…

re: #32 ArchangelMichael

Posting this for no other reason that I like it.

Everything Souxise related = automatic upding.

BTW, this is the first time I clicked your nic— i’m the mirror image of your result on the political compass when I’ve taken that test. Exactly the same but on the left side, same distance between authoritarian and libertarian. heh.

Shakira - Whenever, Wherever

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re: #34 iceweasel

Everything Souxise related = automatic upding.

BTW, this is the first time I clicked your nic— i’m the mirror image of your result on the political compass when I’ve taken that test. Exactly the same but on the left side, same distance between authoritarian and libertarian. heh.

I’ll be the W^- Boson to your W⁺ Boson. Together we form… a weak force apparently.

re: #36 ArchangelMichael

oh guess the part where our signs differ, I’d be the + though… oh well, I got my science geek humor quotient out of it anyway.

I’d love to meet the bizarro D&D True Neutral alignment person that gets a 0.0, 0.0 on that test.

And this, because it makes me happy and I’m not in all that great of a place right now.

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Here’s a really good recent U2 show

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The Indelicates - America :

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re: #38 ArchangelMichael

I’d love to meet the bizarro D&D True Neutral alignment person that gets a 0.0, 0.0 on that test.

Awesome. I would too. And updinging for the D&D geek humour. I always played Chaotic Neutral. :)

As for the W+ and -, I dig it. These could also go on our superhero outfits when we found Weak Force, and stand politically for Dubya. /

I’m sorry you’re not in a good place though. What’s up? On the other hand, I like when you DJ the LNDT. Selfish of me, I know.

re: #42 iceweasel

Awesome. I would too. And updinging for the D&D geek humour. I always played Chaotic Neutral. :)

As for the W+ and -, I dig it. These could also go on our superhero outfits when we found Weak Force, and stand politically for Dubya. /

I’m sorry you’re not in a good place though. What’s up? On the other hand, I like when you DJ the LNDT. Selfish of me, I know.

Just a whole litany of little to medium sized problems and one possible large one that are all piling up to stress me out. Some days it’s easier to just suck it up than others. The bar brawl 2 threads down really depressed the hell out of me too.

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For the upcoming holiday. This year is the first time I’ll actually have a costume for a halloween party since 1998.

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re: #43 ArchangelMichael

Just a whole litany of little to medium sized problems and one possible large one that are all piling up to stress me out. Some days it’s easier to just suck it up than others. The bar brawl 2 threads down really depressed the hell out of me too.

Ugh, I hear that. And the depression over that thread as well. I have only three words as comment: What. the. fuck.
Definitely going to do my best (which means doing better than I did there) to stay the hell out of some conversations.

What’s your costume?

re: #46 iceweasel

Ugh, I hear that. And the depression over that thread as well. I have only three words as comment: What. the. fuck.
Definitely going to do my best (which means doing better than I did there) to stay the hell out of some conversations.

What’s your costume?

Every Halloween party in town seems to have a Zombie Apocalypse theme so I’m going as one of the soldiers that comes in at the end of every movie to kill everything that moves.

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The last was the famous piece “The Swan” from Saint-saens’ “The Carnival of the Animals”.

A version can be downloaded for free from the LGF Amazon store:

amazon.com

Indeed the LGF Amazon Store:
astore.amazon.com

has many interesting links to products, including free music!

re: #47 ArchangelMichael

Every Halloween party in town seems to have a Zombie Apocalypse theme so I’m going as one of the soldiers that comes in at the end of every movie to kill everything that moves.

Excellent. i have to see Zombieland; someone (FBV?) was telling me how great it is. Love zombie movies.

re: #41 Jimmah

The Indelicates - America :

I can’t bring myself to post Scotland the Brave at the moment (doesn’t feel like a bagpipes mood to me) but here is more Indelicates: Julia We Don’t Live in The Sixties

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re: #47 ArchangelMichael

I’m going as one of the soldiers that comes in at the end of every movie to kill everything that moves.

I’m going as the mild-mannered vegetarian cigarette smoker that hasn’t had a cigarette in two *%#$@ days, and has decided instead to bite people and eat human flesh. Dressed as myself, of course.

Not in a happy place, for sure.

re: #50 iceweasel

Excellent. i have to see Zombieland; someone (FBV?) was telling me how great it is. Love zombie movies.

Originally I was going to do a BSG marine but I couldn’t get the patches delivered on time. This fits the theme better anyway and its basically the same thing.

re: #53 ArchangelMichael

Originally I was going to do a BSG marine but I couldn’t get the patches delivered on time. This fits the theme better anyway and its basically the same thing.

Love BSG. Only just started the second season. Don’t tell me anything about it!
Naturally, I’m a big fan of Starbuck.

re: #50 iceweasel

Excellent. i have to see Zombieland;…

Not from the movie, but there is a catchy tune called “zombieland” from the slightly off kilter T Bone Burnett:

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Good Morning LGF.

re: #34 iceweasel

Cities in Dust = perfect song
Ornaments of Gold = perfect song
Killing Jar = perfect song

re: #55 freetoken

Not from the movie, but there is a catchy tune called “zombieland” from the slightly off kilter T Bone Burnett:

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Loved it. Thank you!

re: #57 WindUpBird

Cities in Dust = perfect song
Ornaments of Gold = perfect song
Killing Jar = perfect song

good stuff here. And how are you today, my feathered friend?

Good Morning Lizard Army. 1 Day until I bring a keg of homemade Cherry Wheat to our squadron tailgate of the FL/GA game. Yummy!

re: #58 iceweasel

Loved it.

The song struck me as a very LGF-kind of tune.

Headline from CNN Defriending can bruise your ‘digital ego’

“People tend to think that these relationships are trivial and not very deep, but this is what we’re moving towards, having a lot of our communications play out over the Internet,” Purdue University social psychologist Kip Williams said. “That’s the way it’s becoming; this is how we interpret our worth. People care how many [online] friends they have.”

Can’t argue with what they’re saying, but I think it’s unfortunate people allow the internet to define such a large part of their lives and self worth. People used to have hobbies, and go out and do things. Now people’s actions and personalities are sometimes almost entirely digital, like mysterious Photoshopped characters that recharge by typing and texting.

re: #60 freetoken

The song struck me as a very LGF-kind of tune.

It really is. i love it. I’m missing the Keith Jarret nightly Ocean tune thing we had going for a couple of nights there.
So much music, so little cash…

re: #61 theheat

Headline from CNN Defriending can bruise your ‘digital ego’

Can’t argue with what they’re saying, but I think it’s unfortunate people allow the internet to define such a large part of their lives and self worth. People used to have hobbies, and go out and do things. Now people’s actions and personalities are sometimes almost entirely digital, like mysterious Photoshopped characters that recharge by typing and texting.

No difference between internet and real life nowadays. It’s all intertwined. I have no problem with getting upset/fighting with people I don’t know “in real life”. It’s 2009, this is how it goes.

re: #59 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Lizard Army. 1 Day until I bring a keg of homemade Cherry Wheat to our squadron tailgate of the FL/GA game. Yummy!

That, my friend, is one big party!!

This is sad and very odd.

Canadian folk singer killed by coyotes, park official says

re: #63 TheMatrix31

No difference between internet and real life nowadays. It’s all intertwined. I have no problem with getting upset/fighting with people I don’t know “in real life”. It’s 2009, this is how it goes.

I know it’s the norm anymore. Perhaps I’m being overly simplistic or sentimental, but I vaguely remember feeling a lot more interesting as a person (how I perceive myself) when both my business and resulting social life wasn’t so owned by the internet.

re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar

That, my friend, is one big party!!

The world’s largest cocktail party! We have 5 tailgate spots for various vehicles, generator, grill, portapotty etc. I think we are ready. Oh yeah, and this!!Humanity’s greatest achievement

Gotta run get kids up and ready for school. BBL.

re: #65 rwdflynavy

Yes, odd. That isn’t typical coyote behavior. However, it occurred in a national park where wild animals live. Wild animals don’t always play by the rules.

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I used to live out on a ranch near Sedona, Arizona. used to really llove the romantic sound of the lonesome coyotes.

But once in a while I would hear an awful snarling sound sound like that of a pack of them ripping something apart. It would terrify me, and I would even call in the dogs and lock them up in the garage (They usually ran around free all day and night).

I remembered that sound when I heard about that Canadian folk singer…

re: #65 rwdflynavy

This is sad and very odd.

Canadian folk singer killed by coyotes, park official says

Blogged about that and the very odd reaction from the folk singer’s mother, rwdflynavy.

/and I still hate the Yankees withthe white-hot intesity of 10,000 suns simultaneously going supernova- altho to be fair, I hated them when they were a bunch of overpaid losers, too.

The Charles Johnson Overnight Ocean Thread Photo Watch

Can you say, WYSIWYG?

Yeah, right.

/

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

/and I still hate the Yankees withthe white-hot intesity of 10,000 suns simultaneously going supernova- altho to be fair, I hated them when they were a bunch of overpaid losers, too.

Seeing as they loaded up with a half-bill of fresh meat over the winter, it’s going to be a long couple years. :(

re: #75 Soundboard Fez

But it’s just so damn gratifying once it finally does unravel (Arizona, 2001, Anaheim 2002, Florida 2003, Boston 2004, Anaheim (again) 2005, Detroit 2006, Cleveland 2007, Nobody 2008)…the question is…when

re: #76 Fenway_Nation

My guess is that it will happen either when CC and Burnett get about three years deep into their contracts and start the downhill slide, or when somebody develops a cheap and reliable test for HGH use. Whichever comes first.

That’s about it for me, lizards and lurkers- don’t forget to visit Seven’s alehouse if you find yourself in Beacon Hill.

Good Morning LGF. Some music to relax to.

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Wow, this is kind of cool, if true…Gates and Crowley spotted together having another ‘beer summit’ on their own in a cambridge pub.

tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com

It’d be nice if it’s true. Makes it seem like they’re both over it and it wasn’t for a photo-op.

Is that the factory down at Hermosa Beach?

re: #30 Fenway_Nation

… A pack of wild predators who have already killed, displayed zero fear of humans roving free and possibly developing a taste for human blood…

Glenn Beck and his producers?

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this just popped up on msnbc

Two American Beauties:

Fine songwriting and a nice little video to go with it: Dan Fogelberg: Tucson, Arizona (Gazette)

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John Stewart’s amazing Gold with an equally amazing Stevie Nicks doing backup vocals.

Riding over Kanan, singing to my soul,
People out there turning music into gold…

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Morning lizards. Having an “Indian spring” here in the wild north country; warm but not overly so, and raining cats and dogs for almost the last 24 hours straight. Ugh.

Good Morning everyone!
Overcast and cool here this morning… but still a beautiful morning!

Happy Morning Lizards!

It was blustery all night and is still blustery this morning.

How are you-all?

re: #83 imp_62

Glenn Beck and his producers?

These guys?. Alcohol and young people don’t mix.

ok, where is everyone?

re: #65 rwdflynavy

This is sad and very odd.

Canadian folk singer killed by coyotes, park official says

That’s very sad - I hadn’t heard her music yet: will have to check it out. Thank you for the link.

re: #90 ggt

In bed!!!

re: #90 ggt

ok, where is everyone?

Dunno. Dropping in to find a few links, say hi.

re: #93 akarra

Hi! (waves)

re: #94 reloadingisnotahobby

Hi! (waves)

Hello! *waves back* How are things?

re: #91 akarra

I’ve seen them in action,up close and personal!
Then people wonder why Utah has a bounty…Sad!

Good morning Lizards,

For those of you who pray, could you please keep the USMC and USCG in your prayers today. Last night, a CG C130 and a MC Cobra collided. 9 people were involved in the accident between both airframes and thus far, no survivors have been found. Aviation tends to be a small community in the military and one of the guys in my office knew a lot of the C130 crewmembers.

Thank you very much. Semper Paratus & Semper Fidelis.

JP1101

re: #97 Jetpilot1101

Will do.

re: #34 iceweasel

Everything Souxise related = automatic upding.

BTW, this is the first time I clicked your nic— i’m the mirror image of your result on the political compass when I’ve taken that test. Exactly the same but on the left side, same distance between authoritarian and libertarian. heh.

#1 For the banshees

Compared to my rating on the politcal compass, you’re both extremists ;)
politicalcompass.org

re: #95 akarra

I’m well!
Loving my 4/10’s ..wondering what to do today…
Not sure how ya feel about this but…I was going to go to hills and see if I could call in a Coyote or two…

re: #96 reloadingisnotahobby

Yeah, when I lived around Dallas, they were roaming around killing small animals. It wasn’t the wisest thing to walk around areas that weren’t as developed at night.

re: #100 reloadingisnotahobby

I’m well!
Loving my 4/10’s ..wondering what to do today…
Not sure how ya feel about this but…I was going to go to hills and see if I could call in a Coyote or two…

You’re gonna go hunting? Sounds like fun - I wanna be outside, but I need to be productive here. I have to get back to work soon, am on a deadline.

re: #92 reloadingisnotahobby

In bed!!!

That’s the best idea I’ve heard ALL day. It’s rainy, I don’t have to be anywhere for a while and I have 3 doggies who like to snuggle.

Have a great day all!

re: #102 akarra

Productivity is over rated!!LOL
I saw more dogs than Elk earlier this month on my hunt!

I missed some good threads yesterday, wish I had been here for the Ice melt video thread.

re: #104 reloadingisnotahobby

You were hunting dogs? They good eatin?

re: #103 ggt

That’s the best idea I’ve heard ALL day. It’s rainy, I don’t have to be anywhere for a while and I have 3 doggies who like to snuggle.

Have a great day all!

Take care!

re: #103 ggt

My wifes daycare kiddies will be here in 6=5=4=3…
The garage heater is on so I’m good!

re: #106 RogueOne

Taste like Eagle!!
Better than Spotted Owl by far!!!

re: #104 reloadingisnotahobby

Productivity is over rated!!LOL
I saw more dogs than Elk earlier this month on my hunt!

If you do go, best of luck - hope you get something good.

I should be on a bit later, but right now work beckons. Thanks for saying hi!

re: #96 reloadingisnotahobby

I’ve seen them in action,up close and personal!
Then people wonder why Utah has a bounty…Sad!

I posted the same story yesterday, because I found the behavior described to be extremely unusual - in fact, I’ve never heard of coyotes engaging in such an attack anywhere, and I’ve run across them a lot. They’re normally extremely shy about humans, and tend more toward scavenging than actual hunting when they can get away with it. And even when hunting, they concentrate on prey that’s a lot smaller than they are - rodents, mostly.

I’m thinking there might have been something wrong with them in this case - rabies, perhaps, or some other disease. This sort of attack is an aberration, as far as I know.

Pay problem parents not to breed

Mayor Laws goes on to write: “it would be far better for this appalling underclass to be offered financial inducements not to have children, given the toxic environment that they would provide for any child in their care.”

news.com.au

re: #111 SixDegrees

I’ve seen four take down a yearling bull…Amazing and frightening…
didn’t have a camera or a rifle!

re: #109 reloadingisnotahobby

mmm, spotted owl with a shoulderband snail sause.

re: #114 RogueOne

LOL!

sause=sauce, it’s still early

Here come the kiddies…I’m out
Later all!

re: #109 reloadingisnotahobby

Taste like Eagle!!
Better than Spotted Owl by far!!!

Heh. When we were in Washington state, we noticed that the whole place is lousy with eagles. They’re everywhere. Out in the Sound, we saw a group of them on a small island, chowing down on what turned out to be a baby seal - which disturbed the other tourists to no end. How to reconcile this? A protected species killing and eating…a baby seal! Horror of horrors.

My comment - which was to wonder aloud what roasted eagle fed out on seal might taste like - was not well received.

I expect eagles will be de-listed shortly. They’ve made a remarkable comeback, even back here in the Midwest, and don’t seem to need special protections anymore.

This is one of the stranges law they have in Texas!

Texas Law Challenged After Man Allegedly Forces Daughters to Watch ‘Hardcore Porn’

A 1970s-era Texas law that allows parents to show “harmful material” to their children has come under fire after a prosecutor said he couldn’t file charges against a man accused of forcing his 8- and 9-year-old daughters to watch hardcore online pornography.

foxnews.com

re: #119 Mike DeGuzman

A 1970s-era Texas law that allows parents to show “harmful material” to their children…
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Isn’t Darwin’s Origin of the Species considered harmful material in Texas? /

re: #118 SixDegrees

Hey Six, just wondering what “Devil’s Night” has been like the last few years?

wife from New Brighton tried to slit her husband’s throat as he slept because he was not the devout Muslim she believed she married

I don’t know what to say. He’s not exactly Islamic husband of the year but whoa!

re: #119 Mike DeGuzman

That man is obviously farked up. Still, I don’t see it being the govt’s role to dictate what parents are allowed to show their kids. On the other hand, it should make a difference to a judge during a custody dispute.

I found this link on the fox site right below that story. It’s a sad story of a marriage gone bad. They’ve been married for only 5 months but she’s already prepared to slit his throat. I don’t think these poor love birds relationship is going to make it.
silive.com

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. — A 37-year-old wife from New Brighton tried to slit her husband’s throat as he slept because he was not the devout Muslim she believed she married, and pressured her to eat pork and drink alcohol, authorities allege.

Rushdie is her husbands favorite author, that should have been a decent clue.

re: #118 SixDegrees

Heh. When we were in Washington state, we noticed that the whole place is lousy with eagles. They’re everywhere. Out in the Sound, we saw a group of them on a small island, chowing down on what turned out to be a baby seal - which disturbed the other tourists to no end. How to reconcile this? A protected species killing and eating…a baby seal! Horror of horrors.

My comment - which was to wonder aloud what roasted eagle fed out on seal might taste like - was not well received.

I expect eagles will be de-listed shortly. They’ve made a remarkable comeback, even back here in the Midwest, and don’t seem to need special protections anymore.

I live basically about 5 miles out of NYC boardering the New jersy meadowlands, supposedly there has been recent sighting of bald eagles right here in our back yard (the meadowlands). While I try to keep an eye out, I have not personally seen them. but here is a local report…
meadowblog.typepad.com

anyhow, point being if the bald eagles are living here, then yes, they have made a comeback.

re: #122 DaddyG

damnit daddg beat me by less than 30 secs. Almost in stereo

re: #124 Spider mensch

Get a few “close to extinct” animals who like to screw together, protect them, the problem generally solves itself.

Friend of mine went buffalo hunting recently. Came back with some interesting stories about the conservation efforts.

Yay.

But if mosquitos become threatened and anybody tries to save them, well, a pox upon their houses. (yeah, it’ll never happen)…

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Add lovebugs to the list.

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mosquitos and broccoli make me doubt creationism and evolution equally. The only other theory that makes sense in light of their evidence is that we are space aliens who were marooned on this planet.

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Get a few “close to extinct” animals who like to screw together, protect them, the problem generally solves itself.

Friend of mine went buffalo hunting recently. Came back with some interesting stories about the conservation efforts.

Yay.

But if mosquitos become threatened and anybody tries to save them, well, a pox upon their houses. (yeah, it’ll never happen)…

The Asiatic Wild Ass is endangered and up for anything.

re: #124 Spider mensch

I haven’t seen them yet either, but they apparently roost up and down the Hackensack River in tall dead trees, which give them excellent views of the river and their food sources. Some have been sighted in the vicinity of Riverside Square Mall at Rt. 4.

I was recently out in South Dakota’s Badlands/Black Hills area and saw quite a bit of bison and other wildlife. The bison are a sight to behold, and here’s a shot of one of the pronghorn I saw.

Obama Administration: Stimulus Directly Saved or Created Roughly 650,000 Jobs
blogs.abcnews.com

The Obama administration’s $787 billion stimulus bill directly saved or created about 650,000 jobs as of the end of last month, administration officials announced this morning.

At $1.2 million per job saved or created, I wonder if anyone in the Obama administration has ever taken a college level economics course. Or maybe they have, but they didn’t really believe what they were being taught.

re: #129 KenJen

/In Bed!

re: #119 Mike DeGuzman

This is one of the stranges law they have in Texas!

Texas Law Challenged After Man Allegedly Forces Daughters to Watch ‘Hardcore Porn’

A 1970s-era Texas law that allows parents to show “harmful material” to their children has come under fire after a prosecutor said he couldn’t file charges against a man accused of forcing his 8- and 9-year-old daughters to watch hardcore online pornography.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

That is a seriously disturbing story. The problem seems to be that the law was written in an extremely sloppy (and sex-phobic) way:

The law apparently was meant to protect the privacy of parents who wanted to teach children about sex education, but it states clearly that parents can’t be prosecuted for showing “harmful material” to their children.

Now that’s just crazy. They were inadvertently saying that sex ed material could be ‘harmful material’ in the way they wrote that; it should have been a no-brainer that there’s a huge difference between sex ed material and harmful material.
If I were the mother of those two girls, I would be so furious I would want to do some physical harm to the ex now that he can’t be prosecuted. How can there not be some statute or other under which he can be charged? This can’t possibly be the first time a parent has forced his kid to watch pr0n in TX. It’s a huge state and unfortunately the number of sickos is huge everywhere.

re: #131 Liberal Classic

The cost is far less than that because the amount of money going to stimulus at this point is a fraction of the $787 costs (not factoring inflation, interest on debt, which pushes true cost of the stimulus to over $1.2 trillion).

Problem is that jobs saved is a bogus metric. No one has ever counted jobs saved when trying to show economic development precisely because what counts as a job saved. I still have my job, but that has nothing to do with government action. But you could count it as a job saved since you wouldn’t know what would have happened if the government didn’t spend taxpayer money faster than they can print it.

As for the jobs actually created, there’s a bit of controversy over that as well, given that the government’s own website has peculiar counting of jobs created - the number is far lower than you might reasonably expect.

And the economy continues shedding jobs and the jobless rates are soaring - because businesses aren’t hiring. They aren’t firing as many because they’ve cut to the bone already so there’s less jobs that can be cut. The unemployment rate touted doesn’t count people who have stopped looking for jobs or have lost their unemployment benefits because their time ran out, so the situation is far gloomier than the WH spin (which this is all about in any event).

re: #130 lawhawk

I haven’t seen them yet either, but they apparently roost up and down the Hackensack River in tall dead trees, which give them excellent views of the river and their food sources. Some have been sighted in the vicinity of Riverside Square Mall at Rt. 4.

I was recently out in South Dakota’s Badlands/Black Hills area and saw quite a bit of bison and other wildlife. The bison are a sight to behold, and here’s a shot of one of the pronghorn I saw.

good photos!

it’s really amazing the wildlife that lives here in one of the most congested areas in the world, in the past year wild turkey on the prowl in Kearny and Nutley ( my wife and I saw one literally walking down the sidewalk on centre street in Nutley in the middle of the day). a deer jumping through the back yards in Lyndhurst. This is suburbia, those critters aren’t suppose to be here…lol..but they are :)

re: #129 KenJen

The Asiatic Wild Ass is endangered and up for anything.

Brown Chicken. Brown Cow.

re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey Six, just wondering what “Devil’s Night” has been like the last few years?

Calm. That whole fiasco died down many years ago, although a good deal of credit for that has to be given to community groups who still organize patrols to head off rampant arson and other misbehavior.

Like a guy who was interviewed during the height of the problem said years ago: “If the city would come in and tear these places down, we wouldn’t have to burn them down.” Most of the really bad places have long since been destroyed - by the city or otherwise - so it just isn’t as much of a problem as it once was when it came to national attention.

re: #129 KenJen

The Asiatic Wild Ass is endangered and up for anything.

“She’s equine… doo lang doo lang doo lang…”

Now, I’ve got to run and…
“Do that voodoo, that Hugh do, so weeelll!”
-That’s Hedley

Hi all.
It looks like China’s air pollution has reached the US coast again.

re: #133 iceweasel
I would think that social services could intervene based on child endangerment given the nature of the fathers actions despite the law about “harmful materials”.

re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey Six, just wondering what “Devil’s Night” has been like the last few years?

Is Six in detroit? I’ve been told devils night is pretty weak compared to decades past.

re: #142 RogueOne

Is Six in detroit? I’ve been told devils night is pretty weak compared to decades past.

Yes and yes.

re: #137 SixDegrees

I am f’n slow today. Stupid customers keep cutting into my online time.

re: #142 RogueOne

Now they only set fires when the Wings win the cup.
//

re: #141 DaddyG

I would think that social services could intervene based on child endangerment given the nature of the fathers actions despite the law about “harmful materials”.

the parents are divorced but (I think) share custody. Clearly the guy should lose custody and probably only have supervised visitation (IMO), just for the safety of the girls, but I would want him punished as well.

re: #143 SixDegrees

I was just up there yesterday. I was born there and still have quite a few relatives running around.

re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now they only set fires when the Wings win the cup.
//

No; we only set fires when the Tigers win the pennant. When the Wings win the cup, we throw octopus.

You’re obviously a tourist. /

re: #147 RogueOne

I was just up there yesterday. I was born there and still have quite a few relatives running around.

I was born and grew up in Detroit - well, Highland Park, actually - and although I don’t live in the city proper anymore, I’m just outside it and spend a lot of time there still.

For those who don’t know, Highland Park is a city completely contained within the city of Detroit. It shares this distinction with neighboring Hamtramck.

Gotta go finish some home improvements. BIAB.

re: #131 Liberal Classic

Obama Administration: Stimulus Directly Saved or Created Roughly 650,000 Jobs
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com…]

At $1.2 million per job saved or created, I wonder if anyone in the Obama administration has ever taken a college level economics course. Or maybe they have, but they didn’t really believe what they were being taught.

1.2 million of productive money given to save or create a government job.
We should all be so honored to have contributed.
Meanwhile…
George Soros is poised to shell out millions to pay for anti-free market propaganda. I’m certain employment will really be improved after all of the earth’s uber left-wing mega-rich put there money in a pot and figure out more ways to destroy it all - so that glorious big daddy government can come to our rescue.

re: #149 SixDegrees

For those who don’t know, Highland Park is a city completely contained within the city of Detroit. It shares this distinction with neighboring Hamtramck.

Hamtramck is where my family lived when I was born. You might be a long lost cousin.

The rosy dawn on the burnt-over San Gabriel Mountains of California. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature Break.

Good morning all.

their money in a pot…

re: #151 FrogMarch

1.2 million of productive money given to save or create a government job.
We should all be so honored to have contributed.
Meanwhile…
George Soros is poised to shell out millions to pay for anti-free market propaganda. I’m certain employment will really be improved after all of the earth’s uber left-wing mega-rich put there money in a pot and figure out more ways to destroy it all - so that glorious big daddy government can come to our rescue.

I always find it funny when free-market fans object to how a private citizen spends his own money.

Good morning, folks. Another glorious day in cubeland.

re: #153 Ojoe

The rosy dawn on the burnt-over San Gabriel Mountains of California. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature Break.

Good morning all.

Ah!
Looks clear and cool. If I close my eyes, I can feel it.

Good morning, Ojoe!

re: #157 reine.de.tout

I bet it is about 38º F.

There is a temperature posted at the bottom of the image but it is from yesterday around noon.

And good morning to you too.

BBL

Yo

re: #158 MandyManners

Sounds like Soros is going to save and create new swaths of economics to fit his agenda.

Judge has all of his 6500 case convictions tossed:

timesleader.com

It is slow here.

I am listening to recordings of Maria Callas while I am at the drafting board.

re: #164 Ojoe

It is slow here.

I am listening to recordings of Maria Callas while I am at the drafting board.

Yeah, real slow.
Could you Callas when it picks up a bit?

Cop walks into home, unnanounced, uninvited, unwanted, and shoots their dog.
ktnv.com

What bothers me almost as much as the cop shooting the dog is the reaction to the shooting by the neighbor. Her statement sounds like she’s saying “if the cops have to come all the way out here they may as well shoot something.” Next time, I’m hoping it’s her house they walk in and start shooting.

re: #152 RogueOne

Hamtramck is where my family lived when I was born. You might be a long lost cousin.

Definitely neighbors. The Hamtramck border was just a few blocks from my house. I make an annual pilgrimage to the New Palace Bakery on Fat Tuesday to pick up a couple hundred paczkis for the office.

For those who don’t know: Hamtramck was (and still is, to some extent) the center of a large Polish population, and a paczkis is a sort of filled Polish donut deep-fried in lard, traditionally offered just before Lent kicks off. The theory is that one of these ought to be enough to tide you over for the the six week fast about to ensue. They are estimated to contain around 450 calories, each, and are loaded with saturated fats and refined carbohydrates.

And I am a hero when I arrive bearing boxes of them each year.

re: #167 SixDegrees

Great grandpa was pure pole, came over on a boat. I always wondered how they all ended up in the middle of detroit.

re: #168 RogueOne

Great grandpa was pure pole, came over on a boat. I always wondered how they all ended up in the middle of detroit.

LOTS of rowing!!

re: #168 RogueOne

Great grandpa was pure pole, came over on a boat. I always wondered how they all ended up in the middle of detroit.

The auto industry. Excellent pay, not much in the way of skills, language or otherwise, required to get started.

Hamtramck is within walking distance of both the original Ford plant and what used to be Chrysler world headquarters, both in Highland Park. It was a magnet for people seeking the American dream from the teens up through the 60s, when things started souring.

re: #166 RogueOne

Something like that happened last year at the home of the mayor of the neighboring town.

His house is less than a mile from mine.

washingtonexaminer.com

Anyone dressing up for Halloween? Im thinking of going as swine flu. Scrubs with face mask with a pig noes over it.

re: #171 Mad Al-Jaffee

I remember that. If I were on the jury they would get millions.

re: #172 KenJen

I’m going to try to be a zombie. I have some white and black face paint and I’ve watched some videos on how to us them for the right effect. I’m also going to make some fake blood and smear some on some old, torn clothes, and put some on my face. Instead og “Braaaiiinsss,” I’ll be chanting “Beeerrr!”

re: #172 KenJen

You could also wear a pig costume with wings - swine flew.

re: #166 RogueOne

Cop walks into home, unnanounced, uninvited, unwanted, and shoots their dog.
[Link: www.ktnv.com…]

What bothers me almost as much as the cop shooting the dog is the reaction to the shooting by the neighbor. Her statement sounds like she’s saying “if the cops have to come all the way out here they may as well shoot something.” Next time, I’m hoping it’s her house they walk in and start shooting.

From the linked article:

“He says his pitbull was just doing what she was trained to do.”

Uh huh…right.

re: #168 RogueOne

Great grandpa was pure pole, came over on a boat. I always wondered how they all ended up in the middle of detroit.

My great grandparents and grandfather were from Eastern Europe (probably Russia or Ukraine), and they ended up in a Jewish community in Oklahoma.

re: #171 Mad Al-Jaffee

I remember that, Mayor Calvo. That poor mans family got screwed and if he weren’t the mayor it would have been swept under the rug. The last I heard the police report came back saying the cops did nothing wrong. What a horrible sham.

re: #178 RogueOne

They did plenty wrong. I can *almost* understand why they acted the way they did - if they thought they were going after some big time dealer, protocol would probably be to shoot the dogs upon raiding. They weren’t, and all they had to do was look up who lived there. Plus, they didn’t have a no-knock warrant.

re: #176 Spare O’Lake

a pit bull name “hazel”. the kid on the video said the dog just barked at the cop. Still, none of that matters. The officer walked into their house, unnanounced. I have 2 large dogs, if someone walks into my house unnanounced they’re dog food. It’s my house, don’t walk into my house without my permission.

Why’s it so quite here today? I feel like I’m in a horror movie or something. And where’s that eerie piano music coming from?

re: #172 KenJen

Anyone dressing up for Halloween? Im thinking of going as swine flu. Scrubs with face mask with a pig noes over it.

I heard Pres. Obama has been a lion a lot of the time.

re: #176 Spare O’Lake

I live in a good neighborhood and I have 2 dobies. I rarely lock my door. Last year someone opened my screen door and kicked in my front door. They ran into 2 startled and upset dobies and quickly changed their minds. When my spouse got home the screen door was shut, the front door broken, and nothing taken. My dogs have already earned their keep for the rest of their lives.

Hmmm… I was just checking my referrer logs and found a curious link coming in from Jon Snow of Channel 4 to my coverage of the latest terror attack in Peshawar this week. Didn’t know who he was until I started checking around for a bio. I guess he’s a name in the UK.

re: #179 Mad Al-Jaffee

Just a little bit of actual police work would have saved the 2 dogs and a lot of money and embarrassment for the police dept.

re: #172 KenJen

Anyone dressing up for Halloween? Im thinking of going as swine flu. Scrubs with face mask with a pig noes over it.

Swine flu vaccination distribution here in Louisiana - seems to be an epic fail.

Confusion reigns.

re: #174 Mad Al-Jaffee
My wife went to work as a zombie bride today, she looked hott. One dept all came as the swine flu, scrubs w/H1N1 nametags and snouts. Both ideas seem to be popular this year. She just sent me a load of pics.

re: #180 RogueOne

a pit bull name “hazel”. the kid on the video said the dog just barked at the cop. Still, none of that matters. The officer walked into their house, unnanounced. I have 2 large dogs, if someone walks into my house unnanounced they’re dog food. It’s my house, don’t walk into my house without my permission.

The cops were not there on a lark - they were doing their job. The kid on the video may be lying. The music may have been blasting so loud that the youts never heard the cops knocking.
But leaving aside for a moment the technical legality of the entry, do you really think the officer should have just stood there and allowed the charging pit bull to consummate its intended bloody attack?

re: #185 RogueOne

Just a little bit of actual police work would have saved the 2 dogs and a lot of money and embarrassment for the police dept.

I agree. Now PG County is going to lose money it can’t afford to lose in a massive lawsuit.

re: #172 KenJen

I’m in as balloon boy. Lots of mylar and helium.

re: #188 Spare O’Lake

It is not the officers job to just walk in someones home. No one reported a break-in, they reported what they thought was a prowler. He went above and beyond his legal authority and made an illegal entry into someones home and shot their dog. And yes, I’d rather the cop realize his mistake and back out rather than shoot someones pet in the face.

re: #189 Mad Al-Jaffee

I agree. Now PG County is going to lose money it can’t afford to lose in a massive lawsuit.

Why would the lawsuit be “massive” unless these folks, with the help of an ambulance-chaser, try to cash in big-time. If the entry was in fact illegal then the police should apologize and should have to pay some damages to replace the dog and something for the owner’s suffering…but such a small claim could be easily settled out of court unless the owner gets greedy or the police are unreasonable.

re: #188 Spare O’Lake

he illegally went into their home with his gun drawn, what if he had mistakenly shot the kid? Would you still be defending him by saying he was just doing his job? What if the kid heard the noise upstairs and came up on a stranger in his home and shot the cop? This officer was playing rambo with zero regard to the property or civil rights of the owners, he needs to go.

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

he’s talking about mayor calvo
cnn.com

re: #193 RogueOne

he illegally went into their home with his gun drawn, what if he had mistakenly shot the kid? Would you still be defending him by saying he was just doing his job? What if the kid heard the noise upstairs and came up on a stranger in his home and shot the cop? This officer was playing rambo with zero regard to the property or civil rights of the owners, he needs to go.

You are making some factual assumptions which are probably untrue.
It’s very easy to jump to conclusions and to second guess the police.
I suggest reserving judgment.

re: #193 RogueOne

he illegally went into their home with his gun drawn, what if he had mistakenly shot the kid? Would you still be defending him by saying he was just doing his job? What if the kid heard the noise upstairs and came up on a stranger in his home and shot the cop? This officer was playing rambo with zero regard to the property or civil rights of the owners, he needs to go.

Not necessarily

iirc, if the police are called out on a legit “suspicion of,, ” call, and they follow the “leads” (which in this case is a reported prowler at the address) IF they knock and don’t get a response and they think something is amiss in the house (hearing music, which typically indicates someone is in there and getting no response when knocking) then they CAN enter without actual permission

re: #120 DaddyG

Yes especially those who do not believe in evolution!

re: #196 sattv4u2

If it happened the way the news report says, which I know isn’t always a given, then he could not have had a reasonable suspicion that anything illegal was going on in that house. I’m also highly suspicious due to the attitude of the old white woman not liking the way her neighborhood is turning out and the ethnicity of the family who owned the home the cop intruded into. I might be crazy on that, but it smells bad to me.

I’ve been running through a copy of this newest proposal (HR 3962) and one of the things I find really interesting is that the progressives are crowing that this plan will pay for itself.

Well, if you call adding a 5.4 percent surcharge tax on families that make over 1 million (modified adjusted gross income) “paying for itself” (that’s going chafe the rich in Hollywood)…

If you call adding a 2.5 percent sales tax on all medical equipment “paying for itself…”

If you call taxing employers 8 percent of their total yearly payroll if their health insurance does not meet the “acceptable coverage” as set forth by the federal government “paying for itself…”

And these employer penalties WILL affect many small business. You will only escape their penalty scheme if your total yearly payroll is under 1/2 million.

If you call taxing citizens 2.5 of their yearly income (modified adjusted gross income) if they do not have any health care coverage or their health care coverage is not “acceptable coverage” as set forth by the federal government “paying for itself…”

These are only some of the taxes, penalties and additional NEWthat are in this proposal that citizens will pay for so the federal government can boast that this bill will “pay for itself.”

If you consider taking money from taxpayers in this manner as “paying for itself,” I would like to introduce you to MY PLAN, whereas I live off off of your income for the rest of my life.

BBIAB -

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

Mornin walter, how’d the snow storm end up? I was listening to kbpi yesterday and they were talking about how treacherous it was in town.

re: #198 RogueOne

If it happened the way the news report says, which I know isn’t always a given, then he could not have had a reasonable suspicion that anything illegal was going on in that house. I’m also highly suspicious due to the attitude of the old white woman not liking the way her neighborhood is turning out and the ethnicity of the family who owned the home the cop intruded into. I might be crazy on that, but it smells bad to me.

You are not crazy…just prejudiced.

re: #202 Spare O’Lake

You caught me, I don’t like white people. ;)

re: #198 RogueOne

If it happened the way the news report says, which I know isn’t always a given, then he could not have had a reasonable suspicion that anything illegal was going on in that house. I’m also highly suspicious due to the attitude of the old white woman not liking the way her neighborhood is turning out and the ethnicity of the family who owned the home the cop intruded into. I might be crazy on that, but it smells bad to me.

A) report of a prowler
B) music on in the house (indicatation of someone being there
C) no answer at the door (could be indication that the resident is or has been a victim of foul play from the reported prowler
EQUALS
reasonable entry by the police

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

Why would the lawsuit be “massive” unless these folks, with the help of an ambulance-chaser, try to cash in big-time. If the entry was in fact illegal then the police should apologize and should have to pay some damages to replace the dog and something for the owner’s suffering…but such a small claim could be easily settled out of court unless the owner gets greedy or the police are unreasonable.

They stormed in without the proper warrant, shot and killed the dogs, and cuffed and detained everyone in the house (including an elderly woman.) I’m not a lawyer, but it looks like they have grounds for a suit.

I needed a guitar wake up this morning. Anyone else? I suggest this interesting track from Orinanthi and Steve Vai. This girl was supposed to back Michael Jackson on the comeback tour. Started at 6 years old…
3rd track down the embedded playlist

“Highly Strung Duet”.
myspace.com

re: #205 Mad Al-Jaffee

Please see 196 and 204

ALSO

from the report

neighbor Joann Griffith.

Griffith says burglars and other criminals have been known to come over a nearby freeway wall to target homes in the neighborhood

Seems as if the police have been in the neighborhood before, so they would find it reasonable that something nefarious could be going on

re: #204 sattv4u2

If the officer heard music then how do you get to reasonable suspicion? Do most home invaders turn on the stereo for backround music while they load shit up? The report was of a “prowler” not a break-in. 2nd, I don’t have to answer my door when a cop knocks, nor do I have to speak to him or let him in unless he has a warrant. That doesn’t give an officer the authority to just walk in and shoot my dogs.

re: #163 RogueOne

Judge has all of his 6500 case convictions tossed:

[Link: www.timesleader.com…]

A corrupt judge receiving illegal payments on the side!

re: #207 sattv4u2

You guys are talking about two different issues. We were also talking about what happened to Mayor Calvo, swat team storms the house, shoots his dogs while they’re trying to run away, then force everyone on the floor with guns in their faces.

re: #208 RogueOne

If the officer heard music then how do you get to reasonable suspicion? Do most home invaders turn on the stereo for backround music while they load shit up? The report was of a “prowler” not a break-in. 2nd, I don’t have to answer my door when a cop knocks, nor do I have to speak to him or let him in unless he has a warrant. That doesn’t give an officer the authority to just walk in and shoot my dogs.

I ought to stay out of this …
If I’m watching TV or playing music and someone breaks into my house and injures or kills me, and the cops show up and hear the music or the TV but get no response from me to knocking on the door because I’m on the floor injured or dead, I damn well HOPE they break into my house to see what’s going on.

that’s how you get to reasonable suspicion.

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

Morning Walter! Thanks for slogging through the bill. For some odd reason, my lovely bride wanted some quality time last night, so I haven’t had a chance to get into it yet.

Great call on the “pay for itself” observations! Here’s one that won’t show up (since it’s slotted for different legislation):

The $1.055 trillion estimate also does not include $245 billion needed to stop Medicare payments to doctors from decreasing, which the House plans to address through separate legislation introduced Thursday.

Hmm, wonder where that money is going to come from?

HCBO Puts House Health Bill Total Cost At $1.055 Trillion

re: #208 RogueOne

Been reading through. Looks more like an error in judgment or policy than outright legal wrongs. SWAT and Police policy on threatening dogs is generally harsh. The policy is human safety first, so the dog can get shot for attacking. Felony entry is always a violent entry. “Reasonable” anything = wide latitude.

Nobody trains their dog to ignore an intruder, not even one with a badge. Probably not even possible.

re: #208 RogueOne

If the officer heard music then how do you get to reasonable suspicion? Do most home invaders turn on the stereo for backround music while they load shit up

VERY easy

If you were home with the stereo on and prowlers came in and had you under gunpoint/ knifepoint or other do you think they would turn the stereo OFF on the chance that IF you were to yell/ scream someone would be alerted? No,, they would leave the music on while they loaded shit up

Now, you not being able to answer a knock on the door, and the prowler being unwilling too coupled with the other factors I enumerated above gives the cops “reasonable suspicion”

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

No, no, no MY PLAN where I live off yours… LOL
Nice summation Walter! Thanks for the work, I’m following closely. This is as big a data absorption task as AGW. Whew!

re: #211 reine.de.tout

if there is a “reasonable suspicion” you have a point, I don’t think in this case they could reach that threashold. Once the officer opened the door and ran into the family dog, he should have known his “suspicion” was incorrect and left.

re: #211 reine.de.tout

Agreed ( as stated in my 196 and 204)

re: #216 RogueOne

if there is a “reasonable suspicion” you have a point, I don’t think in this case they could reach that threashold. Once the officer opened the door and ran into the family dog, he should have known his “suspicion” was incorrect and left.

Kinda hard to “leave” with a pit bull biting your ass!

I just found out I have an additional vacation day this year - they’re giving us Veteran’s Day! That’s two holidays next month.

re: #207 sattv4u2

Please see 196 and 204

I did, and I posted about a totally different case.

Kaam says: tinyurl.com

re: #214 sattv4u2

I feel like I’m beating a dead horse here but think about what you just said, by not answering a knock on your door that automatically gives the police the authority to enter your home with weapons drawn. I could not disagree more strongly, even if the officer had the purest intentions (which I don’t necessarily believe) you still have rights the officer purposely chose to ignore in the hopes of achieving a “greater good”. That isn’t in their job description, they should have been more concerned with the families property rights. This time it was their dog, what if it had been a family member instead?

re: #201 RogueOne

Mornin walter, how’d the snow storm end up? I was listening to kbpi yesterday and they were talking about how treacherous it was in town.

Snow stopped around 6:00 pm last night. We got 3 feet up here, Denver are surrounding areas from under 10 inches up to 2 feet, depending where in town.

I have to go down hill for the first time this week, in a few hours, my work is on the weekends.

My girlfriend made it down to work this morning, so I guess it’s not impossible.

I will have to dig my car out of 3 feet of snow… if i can find it.

re: #219 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just found out I have an additional vacation day this year - they’re giving us Veteran’s Day! That’s two holidays next month.

Wow!
That’s always nice news!

In other news, I’m still laughing about these idiots from yesterday’s news.
In an attempt to disguise themselves, they painted their faces WITH PERMANENT MARKER. You can’t make this stuff up.

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

If you call taxing citizens 2.5 of their yearly income (modified adjusted gross income) if they do not have any health care coverage or their health care coverage is not “acceptable coverage” as set forth by the federal government “paying for itself…”

This provision rankles me no end as it is a direct assault on personal freedom.

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

daaamn!

re: #224 reine.de.tout

In other news, I’m still laughing about these idiots from yesterday’s news.
In an attempt to disguise themselves, they painted their faces WITH PERMANENT MARKER. You can’t make this stuff up.

There was a bit on Red Eye about them last night. Gutfeld’s comment was something like, “The moral here? Don’t commit crimes when you’re high.”

bbl

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

It’s not about solving real health care issues - it’s about redistributing wealth and controlling people with more taxes and regulations.

And - the democrats are lying when they say it’s deficit neutral. But then - we must learn to love the lie.

re: #222 RogueOne

I feel like I’m beating a dead horse here but think about what you just said, by not answering a knock on your door that automatically gives the police the authority to enter your home with weapons drawn.

Swingandamiss!
Problem is,, thats NOT what I said

It’s the totallity of the situation

Once again, the police weren’t randomely walking up to doors knocking on them to see if someone would answer. They were called out on a SUSPICIOUS/ PROWLER call
Upon arriving they had reason to beleive someone WAS in the house (music playing) and had further reason to beleive they could have been i jeapordy (no response)

re: #225 Ojoe

This provision rankles me no end as it is a direct assault on personal freedom.

the entire bill is an assault, not only on personal freedom, but logical sensibilities…yet people here will defend it, just like the stimulus fiasco…funny that eh?

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

Snow stopped around 6:00 pm last night. We got 3 feet up here, Denver are surrounding areas from under 10 inches up to 2 feet, depending where in town.

I have to go down hill for the first time this week, in a few hours, my work is on the weekends.

My girlfriend made it down to work this morning, so I guess it’s not impossible.

I will have to dig my car out of 3 feet of snow… if i can find it.

Do what so many people around here do: brush off a six inch wide peephole on your front windshield and go, under the assumption that everyone else will simply get out of your way and that the snow will eventually blow off once you get up to speed.

What could possibly go wrong?

re: #222 RogueOne

In a very rare man bites dog, we had just this week 3 criminals attempt a home invasion on a police officer’s home.

It freaked the whole neighborhood out. We haven’t had any crime here for ages.

ocregister.com

re: #229 FrogMarch

It’s not about solving real health care issues - it’s about redistributing wealth and controlling people with more taxes and regulations.

And - the democrats are lying when they say it’s deficit neutral. But then - we must learn to love the lie.

Hi Frog! I’m sure I sound like a broken record, but you’re right. It’s not about health CARE, it’s about providing health INSURANCE. Without a parallel effort to bring about reform in how care is provided, it’s just more of what you cite.

For example, from the article I linked above:

An expansion in eligibility rules for the Medicaid program would bring an additional 15 million enrollees to Medicaid by 2019, CBO said.

Medicaid is, for all intents and purposes, bankrupt. Where’s the money going to come from for that. To add 15 million people to a program while saying it’s not going to increase costs/deficits, etc. is insanity.

re: #211 reine.de.tout
re: #228 RogueOne
re: #218 sattv4u2

Can you imagine the furor if it was an attacked & injured elderly lady and the cops walked off without investigating? Then she gets found by a relative days later far too late?

Shoe on other foot-Here in California we had a SWAT entry go very badly at a drug house. The dog inside was a fighting dog trained to attack intruders. Long story short, the cop shot himself and a teammate trying to shoot this dog that had hold of his thigh well up near the crotch. Blood panic ensued. The cops auto gun was too long so the shots went all over. Several cops fired their guns. These details never made the news so I have no link. But I used to shoot/compete with one of the team members who was further back in the entry stack unhurt.

re: #231 albusteve

the entire bill is an assault, not only on personal freedom, but logical sensibilities…yet people liberals and progressives here will defend it, just like the stimulus fiasco…funny that eh?

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re: #233 gregb

In a very rare man bites dog, we had just this week 3 criminals attempt a home invasion on a police officer’s home.

It freaked the whole neighborhood out. We haven’t had any crime here for ages.

[Link: www.ocregister.com…]

You said you left Fullerton… you didn’t go very far, did you?

:)

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

If you call adding a 2.5 percent sales tax on all medical equipment “paying for itself…”

Ah, a sales tax hike on medical equipment, that includes everything from pacemakers to stents. A pacemaker could be $1,000 or more. Adding another 2.5% to the cost makes this cheaper how?

To be absolutely clear, it doesn’t. It adds to the cost, which has to be picked up by someone (the user). It makes health care more expensive, which is why states are loath to impose sales tax on those items (though some do because they’re trying to balance their budgets and figure that a random hit on someone needing durable medical equipment isn’t going to raise eyebrows).

I suspect Congress figures that people aren’t going to notice a sales tax hit on those items because not everyone needs a pacemaker or a stent during their lifetime.

If you call taxing citizens 2.5 of their yearly income (modified adjusted gross income) if they do not have any health care coverage or their health care coverage is not “acceptable coverage” as set forth by the federal government “paying for itself…”

The penalty provisions are a tax, and there’s no way around it. You cannot opt out of this mess without getting taxed for the privilege.

I also suspect that the number of people who will be penalized will fall squarely within the middle class and among those who are least likely to need health care coverage - healthy young people. They are less likely to have chronic conditions that need constant medical attention.

In other words, it violates Obama’s promises of not raising taxes on the middle class, but this proposal (like the Baucus plan and HR3200 before it, are crammed with tax and spend provisions).

Moreover, while the CBO now says that this proposal will not increase the deficit over the 10 year period, I wonder if they goosed their assumptions to make that happen, seeing how everyone realized that the CBO called the first crack at this bill a mess.

re: #234 subsailor68

Hi Frog! I’m sure I sound like a broken record, but you’re right. It’s not about health CARE, it’s about providing health INSURANCE. Without a parallel effort to bring about reform in how care is provided, it’s just more of what you cite.

For example, from the article I linked above:

An expansion in eligibility rules for the Medicaid program would bring an additional 15 million enrollees to Medicaid by 2019, CBO said.

Medicaid is, for all intents and purposes, bankrupt. Where’s the money going to come from for that. To add 15 million people to a program while saying it’s not going to increase costs/deficits, etc. is insanity.

weird huh?…it’s a different world for liberals

re: #235 Rightwingconspirator

an attacked & injured elderly lady and the cops walked off without investigating

GREAT point

“Well sargeant, you see, officer Jones and I walked up to the door, heard music, knocked, didn’t get a response so we left!”

re: #237 wrenchwench

You said you left Fullerton… you didn’t go very far, did you?

:)

Not far at all…Irvine, HB, Tustin, YL. I’m just an Orange County boy at heart. My great grandparents were orange ranchers.

re: #235 Rightwingconspirator

re: #228 RogueOne
re: #218 sattv4u2

Can you imagine the furor if it was an attacked & injured elderly lady and the cops walked off without investigating? Then she gets found by a relative days later far too late?
…

Yes, you see in my case, the injured little old lady would be ME.
And if my dog tried to “protect” the house (and me) by attacking the cops, which could happen, then as much as I love my dog, I would hope the cops would do whatever they need to do to make sure I get the attention I need.

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

I’m not going to down-ding you but I am going to disagree with what appears to be either a disingenuous or ignorant argument. “Paying for itself” means it is not an unfunded mandate. It means that revenue sources - fees, taxes or whatever - are specifically identified and are expected to be equal to the cost of making the bill happen.

Object to the bill if you wish. Object to the actual taxes and fees if you wish. I’ve no philosophical objection to either even though I support the concept and much of the bill’s details, and believe that you have to pay for what you’re going to get. But I ask that you not make these types of objections to the bill - they smack of what I hear from teabaggers around the nation.

re: #234 subsailor68

Hi Frog! I’m sure I sound like a broken record, but you’re right. It’s not about health CARE, it’s about providing health INSURANCE. Without a parallel effort to bring about reform in how care is provided, it’s just more of what you cite.

For example, from the article I linked above:

An expansion in eligibility rules for the Medicaid program would bring an additional 15 million enrollees to Medicaid by 2019, CBO said.

Medicaid is, for all intents and purposes, bankrupt. Where’s the money going to come from for that. To add 15 million people to a program while saying it’s not going to increase costs/deficits, etc. is insanity.

Hi! It is insanity. But no matter - these holy and precious democrats know what is best for us - and we must not question any of it. “The time for talk is over.”

re: #237 wrenchwench

Somebody should work that into a cop show… NCIS “My Bedroom”

re: #241 gregb

Not far at all…Irvine, HB, Tustin, YL. I’m just an Orange County boy at heart. My great grandparents were orange ranchers.

An OC boy with roots!

re: #242 reine.de.tout

And we all love our pets… Profoundly.

re: #230 sattv4u2

Upon arriving they had reason to beleive someone WAS in the house (music playing) and had further reason to beleive they could have been i jeapordy (no response)

If the officer heard the music, he had reason to believe someone was in the house, but no reason to believe it was someone who wasn’t supposed to be there. Not getting an answer at the door isn’t good enough to walk in on his own. When the officer walked in HE was the intruder. if he wanted to do more invetigating by wandering around the property thats different, instead he chose to walk into someones home without the authority to do so. It never occured to him that he might be violating someones rights, because he didn’t care.

We obviously are going to have to just disagree on this issue. Personally I don’t want cops walking into my house without a warrant, ever.

re: #247 Rightwingconspirator

And we all love our pets… Profoundly.

Yes.

re: #247 Rightwingconspirator

And we all love our pets… Profoundly.

Especially with some teriyaki, or a sweet glaze.

/it’s been one of those mornings.

re: #243 kirkspencer

“Pay for itself with savings” is what I have heard. That would not mean new taxes. Paying for itself WITH new taxes” is what we seem to have, but not what the advocates are willing to say out loud.

re: #248 RogueOne

If the officer heard the music, he had reason to believe someone was in the house, but no reason to believe it was someone who wasn’t supposed to be there. Not getting an answer at the door isn’t good enough to walk in on his own. When the officer walked in HE was the intruder. if he wanted to do more invetigating by wandering around the property thats different, instead he chose to walk into someones home without the authority to do so. It never occured to him that he might be violating someones rights, because he didn’t care.

We obviously are going to have to just disagree on this issue. Personally I don’t want cops walking into my house without a warrant, ever.

It’d be different if he heard screams for help coming from inside though. In that case I certainly do want them in there without a warrant.
But how many burglars play music while they work? It doesn’t seem like good judgement there, IMO.

re: #243 kirkspencer

I’m not going to down-ding you but I am going to disagree with what appears to be either a disingenuous or ignorant argument. “Paying for itself” means it is not an unfunded mandate. It means that revenue sources - fees, taxes or whatever - are specifically identified and are expected to be equal to the cost of making the bill happen.

Object to the bill if you wish. Object to the actual taxes and fees if you wish. I’ve no philosophical objection to either even though I support the concept and much of the bill’s details, and believe that you have to pay for what you’re going to get. But I ask that you not make these types of objections to the bill - they smack of what I hear from teabaggers around the nation.

what if I asked you not to post anymore?…Charles decides what is appropriate or not…quit telling others what to post

re: #243 kirkspencer

I’m not going to down-ding you but I am going to disagree with what appears to be either a disingenuous or ignorant argument. “Paying for itself” means it is not an unfunded mandate. It means that revenue sources - fees, taxes or whatever - are specifically identified and are expected to be equal to the cost of making the bill happen.

Object to the bill if you wish. Object to the actual taxes and fees if you wish. I’ve no philosophical objection to either even though I support the concept and much of the bill’s details, and believe that you have to pay for what you’re going to get. But I ask that you not make these types of objections to the bill - they smack of what I hear from teabaggers around the nation.

Paying for itself would be “I want insurance, I pay a premium and get service, if I don’t want health insurance I pay NOTHING. That’s paying for itself.

It’s called business, capitalism, private industry.

Have you read the current proposal? If not, arguing with me about this is no better than our congress critters who are fining to vote on something that they have no idea what it contains.

I’ve read a lot of it already, and everything I posted above was from my own pen, from my own research.

So, get back to me after you’ve read this.

re: #235 Rightwingconspirator

Over the last couple of decades police depts have moved to a more aggressive role than I think is generally necessary. It puts the officers and civilians lives in an unecessary risk. SWAT team usage has gotten completely out of control, bungled raids are almost a daily story.

cato.org
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re: #238 lawhawk

Moreover, while the CBO now says that this proposal will not increase the deficit over the 10 year period, I wonder if they goosed their assumptions to make that happen, seeing how everyone realized that the CBO called the first crack at this bill a mess.

It looks as though what has happened is that Congress has provided funding for the bill by scattering a plethora of new taxes and fees throughout it’s hundreds of pages, in an attempt to hide the real costs from anyone casually perusing it.

I also note that the bill’s alleged 2.5% AGI tax on individuals represents a 25% increase over what I am currently paying out-of-pocket for health care coverage, making it difficult for me to see why this is a good thing. Given that roughly 10% - 15% of the population is uninsured - if you accept the Administration’s figures - why would it require a 25% increase in payments by those already covered to provide coverage for that small fraction of the population?