Sunday Morning Suction Feeding
An interesting little high-speed video of a red bay snook, having a snack.
An interesting little high-speed video of a red bay snook, having a snack.
4 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:47:11am |
That looks like me eating chicken wings.
6 | Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:49:13am |
re: #2 MandyManners
Would that fish be good in an omelet?
When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.
7 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:51:13am |
OT : Per the NYT it looks like Democrats are going to have their own sort of "tea party" insurrection to deal with. The Left Wing is demanding ideological purity and is getting set to throw out the blue dogs.
I take no joy in it.
8 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:52:02am |
I read an article about a month ago where they said overfishing was dooming what ever they put in filet o'fish from McDonalds. I don't eat there often, but when I do that's one of the things I get.
10 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:53:20am |
"Creation Care for Pastors"...
Boy, if the guys paying for that ad only knew...
11 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:53:24am |
re: #9 Lawrence Schmerel
There is something fishy about that video.
Don't try to bait us in to looking at it again.
12 | Sharmuta Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:53:37am |
Great spinoff on Lindsey Graham. He's a leader, and I'm starting to think he'd be a great candidate in 2012.
13 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:54:09am |
What does that video look like at full speed.
I'm guessing like "POOF!"
15 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:55:43am |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.
One of the redeeming features of cuisine in Vietnam and Cambodia as well.
Believe it or not the Dutch did a fairly good job in Indonesia too.
16 | Athens Runaway Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56:03am |
re: #7 karmic_inquisitor
OT : Per the NYT it looks like Democrats are going to have their own sort of "tea party" insurrection to deal with. The Left Wing is demanding ideological purity and is getting set to throw out the blue dogs.
I take no joy in it.
I doubt we'll hear nonstop about how this is a bad thing and is going to destroy America.
17 | Sharmuta Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56:26am |
Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.
18 | Gus Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56:57am |
re: #17 Sharmuta
Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.
Food was meant to be inhaled!
/
19 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:58:14am |
re: #17 Sharmuta
Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.
FWIW, men of any age can't wait for pizza to cool down. Eternal pizza burn.
20 | Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:58:32am |
re: #15 Bobibutu
Anthony Bordain loves Vietnam. I should add that to my list of places to visit.
21 | tradewind Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:58:45am |
Okay, rethinking the red snapper for supper now...///
22 | albusteve Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:59:25am |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.
I would try marlin an a heartbeat...I love the big game fishes, and smoked sounds delicious
23 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:59:43am |
re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar
FWIW, men of any age can't wait for pizza to cool down. Eternal pizza burn.
Never understood why so many folk like their pizza hot. me? I'll take it cold or at room temp, if need be. Just so long as it's there.
24 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:13am |
re: #17 Sharmuta
Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.
It seems to carry over into adults as well. I've seen guys at business lunches and dinners suck down shrimp cocktails with nary a chomp. I suppose I've been guilty a time or three myself.
25 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:26am |
re: #22 albusteve
I would try marlin an a heartbeat...I love the big game fishes, and smoked sounds delicious
There's not a meat or cheese known or unknown to Man that isn't improved by smoking.
26 | Sharmuta Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:28am |
re: #18 Gus 802
Food was meant to be inhaled!
/
Having watched a few of my teenaged cousins eating, I have to agree.
27 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:47am |
re: #23 Guanxi88
Never understood why so many folk like their pizza hot. me? I'll take it cold or at room temp, if need be. Just so long as it's there.
I went to NYC in '07. Brought pizza home in my luggage.
28 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:01:21am |
re: #17 Sharmuta
My mother still bitches me out about how fast I eat.
29 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:02:35am |
re: #27 Cannadian Club Akbar
I went to NYC in '07. Brought pizza home in my luggage.
I used to go around with hardboiled eggs in my topcoat pockets.
30 | Gus Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:02:44am |
re: #26 Sharmuta
Having watched a few of my teenaged cousins eating, I have to agree.
True. A frequent subject in a couple of movies as well. It's always a good idea to chew during the process -- helps to digest the food better.
31 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:03:07am |
re: #30 Gus 802
True. A frequent subject in a couple of movies as well. It's always a good idea to chew during the process -- helps to digest the food better.
Slows you down, though, and the chief thing is quantity consumed per minute.
32 | Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:03:29am |
re: #22 albusteve
I had the opportunity to go out marlin fishing but passed. The big game sport fishing isn't really my thing. We were staying in a fishing village and I talked one of the local fisherman in taking me out to help him pull nets all day. He was a little confused why I wanted to go out with him and work all day. It was a lot of fun and a threw him a few bucks at the end of the day, I'm sure I was more of a pain in the ass than a help.
33 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:04:41am |
A feeding snook. Good metaphor for the government sucking up tax dollars. Which makes as schnooks.
34 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:04:49am |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
Anthony Bordain loves Vietnam. I should add that to my list of places to visit.
Hell - he loves planet earth as long as it has something moving in the area he's in.
I hear Vietnam now is much like Korea was in the 60s. One of the best kept secrets in Asia. In the 60s few wanted to even visit Korea - once there one wanted to stay.
I haven't been back since the late 70s. Maybe in 2010 for a few months or more.
36 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:20am |
re: #32 Killgore Trout
Recollect when I used to fix antique furniture. One of our steadiest customers was a frenchman - owned a swanky shop in town. Guy used to come around on Fridays and just hang out all day. he'd bring in beer and burgers, and work at a bench on whatever we had that wasn't getting done at the time. It baffled me that he'd pay to do what we were paid to do.
Then I had to get a real job, and i understood.
37 | Sharmuta Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:45am |
re: #30 Gus 802
True. A frequent subject in a couple of movies as well. It's always a good idea to chew during the process -- helps to digest the food better.
It takes 20 minutes (IIRC) for your brain to get the signal from your stomach that it's full, so speed eating can be problematic in that some are eating more than they need to because they're eating so quickly. Slowing down and enjoying one's food could help reduce some obesity.
38 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:52am |
re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar
FWIW, men of any age can't wait for pizza to cool down. Eternal pizza burn.
Damn - that hurt the roof of my mouth just reading it.
40 | subsailor68 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:06:39am |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My mother still bitches me out about how fast I eat.
Hi FBV. Heh, yep, I got that too. However, for me it was years of conditioning:
On submarines, you developed two interesting habits. First, meals were a place to go, eat, and clear a space for other guys waiting - particularly if you were going on watch.
Second, bunks - depending on your size - were places to squeeze into, get as comfortable as possible, and not move again if you could help it.
To this day, I eat like I'm getting ready to go on watch, and my wife is amazed that I crawl into our king-sized bed, take up about 1/100th of it, and never move. (That little foible she really, really likes!)
41 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:06:59am |
re: #16 Athens Runaway
I doubt we'll hear nonstop about how this is a bad thing and is going to destroy America.
True that.
The Ned Lamonts will never be ridiculed by the media.
43 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:07:47am |
re: #41 karmic_inquisitor
True that.
The Ned Lamonts will never be ridiculed by the media.
They're just committed idealists; conservatives are just plain evil.
44 | Irenicum Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:08:47am |
re: #27 Cannadian Club Akbar
That brought a belly laugh! And I totally understand! NYC pizza rules!
45 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:08:48am |
This country needs a vast centrist conspiracy.
46 | webevintage Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:09am |
re: #7 karmic_inquisitor
OT : Per the NYT it looks like Democrats are going to have their own sort of "tea party" insurrection to deal with. The Left Wing is demanding ideological purity and is getting set to throw out the blue dogs.
I take no joy in it.
I know.
I go back and forth between being furious with Miz (Sen.) Blanche (Lincoln) since the polling here in Arkansas shows that the people who actually vote for her (Dems and independants) want the option of the public option to be in the health care bill (even though she claims there is not enough support in Arkansas) to knowing that in the end I would be really unhappy with someone like Jim Holt as Senator.
So I'll end up holding my nose and voting for big money, big agra Blanche.
I am so fucking disappointed in my "used to be a solid, dependable lefty" Rep. Vic Snyder for voting for the Stupek amendment I could spit.
(maybe he voted for it just for the house bill to pass, don't know)
This is a man I truly admire for a pol.
True story:
We go to the Memorial Day things here and while the rest of the pols are up on the bandstand making speeches and such, he is there in the crowd honoring the dead as a vet. To me that has always said so much about his character.
47 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:13am |
re: #40 subsailor68
You have something in common with my wife. She doesn't move in bed either.
48 | SixDegrees Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:21am |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.
The best cuisines often appear in areas where there's massive cultural mixing. The Caribbean; the American Southwest; Morrocco; Indonesia. Even what is now referred to as French cuisine arose as a result of the blending of a much more rustic French style of cooking with the cooking of Spain and - in particular - the wealth of new flavors introduced from the New World.
For a very thorough examination of this matter, see Raymond Sokolov's Why We Eat What We Eat.
49 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:58am |
re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You have something in common with my wife. She doesn't move in bed either.
English, is she?
///
50 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:10:43am |
re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You have something in common with my wife. She doesn't move in bed either.
You best hope she isn't looking over your shoulder!!
51 | Gus Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:11:19am |
Petenia splendida
The Bay Snook or Red Bay Snook
BBL
52 | Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:11:39am |
re: #48 SixDegrees
Thanks, I'll add that to my list.
53 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:12:04am |
re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar
She wasn't. But I read it out-loud as I typed it.
54 | Irenicum Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:12:10am |
re: #45 karmic_inquisitor
Best line of the day! May your updings be endless!
55 | webevintage Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:12:12am |
re: #23 Guanxi88
Never understood why so many folk like their pizza hot. me? I'll take it cold or at room temp, if need be. Just so long as it's there.
I like the cheese nice and melted, gooey...but not so hot it burns the roof of my mouth.
56 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:13:56am |
re: #55 webevintage
I like the cheese nice and melted, gooey...but not so hot it burns the roof of my mouth.
I used to go around in starched shirts, good ties, and such. Gooey cheese on pizza was the last thing I wanted. I'd grab a slice of room-temp "white" pizza, fold it in half, and power-walk to the next meeting where I'd get bitched out for something or other. Great combo - food bolted down, and gut-wrenching stress.
57 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:14:22am |
re: #55 webevintage
I like the cheese nice and melted, gooey...but not so hot it burns the roof of my mouth.
The reason men eat really hot pizza is it gives us an excuse to take a chug of the ice cold beer right next to it.:)
58 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:14:37am |
Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.
Obama to Meet With Prime Minister of Myanmar
Officials have not said whether Mr. Obama will meet privately with Thein Sein. The last U.S. president to meet with a Myanmar head of state was Lyndon B. Johnson. He talked with Ne Win, who was then the prime minister, in September 1966 in Washington, according to Richard Mei, the U.S. Embassy spokesman in Myanmar. The country was then called Burma.
Under Mr. Obama, Washington has reversed the policy of the administration of President George W. Bush of shunning Myanmar in favor of direct talks with the country, which has been under military rule since 1962.
Myanmar welcomed the shift in U.S. policy, Min Lwin said, describing the change as “positive.”
59 | Irenicum Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:07am |
You guys and gals are making me hungry! And it's stunningly beautiful outside. So see ya later lizards!
60 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:25am |
re: #58 HelloDare
Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.
Revolting! What the Hell does he think he can accomplish by talking to this evil piece of shit?
61 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:40am |
re: #32 Killgore Trout
Reminds me of similar stuff I did in remote villages in Malaysia and Indonesia. Most folks had never seen a westerner before but welcomed my tagging along for whatever. The tough part was getting them to keep the results of what ever my contribution was. i.e., fish, clams, etc. I got to be creative over time in getting it turned around.
62 | redshirt Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:40am |
Is it mere coincidence that this video is posted the day after the Federal Government did the same thing to health care?
Is Charles making a subliminal message?
63 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:42am |
re: #56 Guanxi88
You should see guys in ties eating a bowl of soup. They usually dunk the tie once before the lesson is learned.
64 | SixDegrees Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:59am |
re: #56 Guanxi88
I used to go around in starched shirts, good ties, and such. Gooey cheese on pizza was the last thing I wanted. I'd grab a slice of room-temp "white" pizza, fold it in half, and power-walk to the next meeting where I'd get bitched out for something or other. Great combo - food bolted down, and gut-wrenching stress.
There's nothing that makes quite such a clear statement as throwing up on your supervisor.
65 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:18:19am |
re: #58 HelloDare
Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.
I wish the President well. However if he and his advisors think he is going to bring Hope & Change there - they are delusional.
66 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:18:34am |
A little background on the charming Burmese with whom BHO will meet:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(used to be called SLORC - State Law and Order Restoration Council)
Another dictatorship. Troubling pattern of diplomacy.
67 | bratwurst Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:18:59am |
re: #16 Athens Runaway
I doubt we'll hear nonstop about how this is a bad thing and is going to destroy America.
Should one side in this internecine conflict start embracing Birchers and Nirthers, you just might.
68 | Athens Runaway Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:19:42am |
re: #66 Guanxi88
A little background on the charming Burmese with whom BHO will meet:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(used to be called SLORC - State Law and Order Restoration Council)Another dictatorship. Troubling pattern of diplomacy.
This is TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.
69 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:19:59am |
re: #64 SixDegrees
There's nothing that makes quite such a clear statement as throwing up on your supervisor.
Came close only once. Thought I'd steady my nerves with a few quick drinks. bad idea. I showed up sweaty, bleary, and nervous. Yakked in the trashcan by the reception staff. Whole thing was chalked up to some flu bug that was going around.
70 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:21:19am |
re: #65 Bobibutu
I wish the President well. However if he and his advisors think he is going to bring Hope & Change there - they are delusional.
There is nothing that Obama can say that couldn't be said through a back-door meeting with lower level people. This meeting will do nothing but give credibility to an evil regime.
71 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:22:59am |
re: #70 HelloDare
There is nothing that Obama can say that couldn't be said through a back-door meeting with lower level people. This meeting will do nothing but give credibility to an evil regime.
Given that the junta in Burma (I refuse to call it Myanmar) has such close ties, commercially, with the NorK's, i wonder what Kim will think of all this.
72 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:24:25am |
re: #71 Guanxi88
Given that the junta in Burma (I refuse to call it Myanmar) has such close ties, commercially, with the NorK's, i wonder what Kim will think of all this.
Well, also military and technology exchanges. So, not just business ties between the junta and kim.
73 | _RememberTonyC Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:24:34am |
CNN's ratings are so bad that they're hoping the White House will start a war with them and say they're not a real news organization.
74 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:25:18am |
re: #73 _RememberTonyC
CNN's ratings are so bad that they're hoping the White House will start a war with them and say they're not a real news organization.
What is this CNN you speak of?
75 | _RememberTonyC Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:26:38am |
re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar
What is this CNN you speak of?
the network of the undead Larry King and the brain dead Campbell Brown ...
76 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:28:21am |
re: #71 Guanxi88
Given that the junta in Burma (I refuse to call it Myanmar) has such close ties, commercially, with the NorK's, i wonder what Kim will think of all this.
Asia Times reported last year on the Burmese junta's nascent nuclear program, and the kind assistance provided by the NorK's in getting that little project off the ground.
Oh, and NorK's been shipping arms into Burma, and providing technical assistance in the construction of bunker and tunnel complexes for the likes of him with whom BHO will meet in private.
77 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:34:20am |
re: #66 Guanxi88
A little background on the charming Burmese with whom BHO will meet:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(used to be called SLORC - State Law and Order Restoration Council)Another dictatorship. Troubling pattern of diplomacy.
As I said on the previous thread the US can no longer afford to be in the business of trying to liberate people around the world.
We will do what the French do - pay lip service to high minded ideals and then cut deals with dictators. Wives of the dictators go on shopping sprees in Paris with their blood stained Euros and compete for luxury hotel rooms with the oil princes and their shopping entourages.
As long as we can congratulate each other on our latest declaration of resolve regarding some pathetic oppressed group somewhere while we wait on our shrimp cocktails to be served to us at the latest policy conference then everything will be fine.
78 | Bob Dillon Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:36:07am |
re: #70 HelloDare
There is nothing that Obama can say that couldn't be said through a back-door meeting with lower level people. This meeting will do nothing but give credibility to an evil regime.
You are absolutely right. I've been to Burma - twice - granted it was early and mid 70s before it really got crazy. I don't know - Obama is supposed to have this experience from living in Indonesia, etc. Iran is playing him and the rest of the world for fools. And he thinks he can take on Asians who manipulated their way into power and have held it for decades. He must really believe he's smokin' hot. I could be totally off the wall but I hope he gets a reality check soon.
79 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:38:42am |
re: #78 Bobibutu
You are absolutely right. I've been to Burma - twice - granted it was early and mid 70s before it really got crazy. I don't know - Obama is supposed to have this experience from living in Indonesia, etc. Iran is playing him and the rest of the world for fools. And he thinks he can take on Asians who manipulated their way into power and have held it for decades. He must really believe he's smokin' hot. I could be totally off the wall but I hope he gets a reality check soon.
Some lizard said this once. I don't recall who it was.
The world is playing chess and Obama is still learning checkers.
80 | Athens Runaway Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:41:58am |
re: #77 karmic_inquisitor
As I said on the previous thread the US can no longer afford to be in the business of trying to liberate people around the world.
We will do what the French do - pay lip service to high minded ideals and then cut deals with dictators. Wives of the dictators go on shopping sprees in Paris with their blood stained Euros and compete for luxury hotel rooms with the oil princes and their shopping entourages.
As long as we can congratulate each other on our latest declaration of resolve regarding some pathetic oppressed group somewhere while we wait on our shrimp cocktails to be served to us at the latest policy conference then everything will be fine.
Well, it IS what the majority of Americans want.
81 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:43:25am |
re: #77 karmic_inquisitor
As I said on the previous thread the US can no longer afford to be in the business of trying to liberate people around the world.
We will do what the French do - pay lip service to high minded ideals and then cut deals with dictators. Wives of the dictators go on shopping sprees in Paris with their blood stained Euros and compete for luxury hotel rooms with the oil princes and their shopping entourages.
As long as we can congratulate each other on our latest declaration of resolve regarding some pathetic oppressed group somewhere while we wait on our shrimp cocktails to be served to us at the latest policy conference then everything will be fine.
It's a sad thing, really, but I suspect you're correct. The last and greatest of human dreams, and all that.
Wonder what we'll have to do about the motto of the US Army Special Forces:
De Opresso Liber.
Maybe Cato could help render a new version.
82 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:44:48am |
I'm not saying we need to go abroad in search of monsters to slay, but that doesn't mean we have to scratch the dragon's chin and look the other way while he burns down a village and eats the locals.
83 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:47:36am |
re: #82 Guanxi88
I'm not saying we need to go abroad in search of monsters to slay, but that doesn't mean we have to scratch the dragon's chin and look the other way while he burns down a village and eats the locals.
There are some, sadly, who believe that.
84 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:48:56am |
re: #80 Athens Runaway
Well, it IS what the majority of Americans want.
Yes it is.
I had a discussion with a friend who is English and works in DC as a free lance policy wonk for different think tanks -- a pretty cool job but he is over educated, articulate and thinks 50 moves ahead, so he deserves it. Anyway, he told me about 5 years ago that the Democrats had really turned into the reactionary party and that they would come to power on a promise to turn back the clocks but presented in a way that seemed forward looking.
I argued with him.
He was dead right.
I think I will email him my concession on the matter.
85 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:51:03am |
re: #82 Guanxi88
I'm not saying we need to go abroad in search of monsters to slay, but that doesn't mean we have to scratch the dragon's chin and look the other way while he burns down a village and eats the locals.
What? When there is an opportunity to sell him people-eating sauce? You know - the product you send him discreetly through some third party after you have your "strongly worded letter" press conference.
86 | Athens Runaway Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:52:10am |
re: #84 karmic_inquisitor
Yes it is.
I had a discussion with a friend who is English and works in DC as a free lance policy wonk for different think tanks -- a pretty cool job but he is over educated, articulate and thinks 50 moves ahead, so he deserves it. Anyway, he told me about 5 years ago that the Democrats had really turned into the reactionary party and that they would come to power on a promise to turn back the clocks but presented in a way that seemed forward looking.
I argued with him.
He was dead right.
I think I will email him my concession on the matter.
In other words, Howard Dean happened.
It's very sad to to see this happen. I wonder what country will be the shining city on the hill, because it sure as hell won't be us anymore.
87 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:56:05am |
re: #86 Athens Runaway
I wonder what country will be the shining city on the hill, because it sure as hell won't be us anymore.
Sad thing is, I don't really see a candidate on the horizon. Hopefully, this is just a temporary aberration, and the nation that fought the Axis to destruction and the Soviets to exhaustion will step up again.
88 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:56:23am |
re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar
You should see guys in ties eating a bowl of soup. They usually dunk the tie once before the lesson is learned.
Paper shredders? You only do that once.
89 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:56:54am |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Paper shredders? You only do that once.
File cabinets were my nemesis. Started wearing very small tie-bars to prevent it.
91 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:59:28am |
re: #87 Guanxi88
Sad thing is, I don't really see a candidate on the horizon. Hopefully, this is just a temporary aberration, and the nation that fought the Axis to destruction and the Soviets to exhaustion will step up again.
That would be Change I could believe in. A raft of social programs and bail-outs for the government-corporate complex, which seems to be on tap domestically, combined with weakness and dithering internationally, is pretty unsatisfactory, I gotta tell ya.
92 | dugmartsch Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:59:31am |
re: #41 karmic_inquisitor
True that.
The Ned Lamonts will never be ridiculed by the media.
That's because Ned Lamont is a reasonable person you can have an actual conversation with and generally behaves in a reasonable way.
The Tea Partiers have absolutely nothing in common with that sane though very lefterly guy.
If the tea partier's were agitating for Barry Goldwater or someone like him, I would completely understand. That voice is not currently represented in American Politics and I believe it is sorely missed. They are not. They're full of anger and hate and looking for any crazy outlet to channel it through. I don't even think Tesla could tame that kind of crazy energy source.
Ball lightning? No problem
Tea Party crazy? Radioactive.
93 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:59:32am |
95 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:02:51pm |
re: #92 dugmartsch
That's because Ned Lamont is a reasonable person you can have an actual conversation with and generally behaves in a reasonable way.
The Tea Partiers have absolutely nothing in common with that sane though very lefterly guy.
If the tea partier's were agitating for Barry Goldwater or someone like him, I would completely understand. That voice is not currently represented in American Politics and I believe it is sorely missed. They are not. They're full of anger and hate and looking for any crazy outlet to channel it through. I don't even think Tesla could tame that kind of crazy energy source.
Ball lightning? No problem
Tea Party crazy? Radioactive.
The Tea Party is the conservative version of the WCW and other assorted leftist noisemakers that eventually sorta kinda worked themselves into successful obscurity. Just give it a little time.
97 | Athens Runaway Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:07:15pm |
re: #95 Guanxi88
The Tea Party is the conservative version of the WCW and other assorted leftist noisemakers that eventually sorta kinda worked themselves into successful obscurity. Just give it a little time.
Nah, World Can't Wait is still out there. They're just quiet because they got their guy into the White House.
98 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:07:31pm |
KITTEN MITTONS! YOU'LL BE SMITTEN!
99 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:07:42pm |
[Link: cpc.grijalva.house.gov...]
For the left version of what the Tea Party movement might become.
100 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:08:05pm |
re: #97 Athens Runaway
Nah, World Can't Wait is still out there. They're just quiet because they got their guy into the White House.
That's the successful obscurity I was referencing.
101 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:08:55pm |
re: #99 Guanxi88
[Link: cpc.grijalva.house.gov...]
For the left version of what the Tea Party movement might become.
They should have a steel cage match.
102 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:09:42pm |
103 | Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:10:09pm |
The party of doom predicts doom...
Democrats Face Electoral Backlash After Health Care Vote, Top Republican Warns
The message from last night is that the Democrats didn't get the message in August or last Tuesday," Pence said, referring to the town hall meetings over the summer where members of the public protested the plan and last Tuesday's election where Democrats lost two big governor's races.
"I think the American people are deeply frustrated with a liberal establishment in Washington, D.C. that is ignoring their will," Pence said. "If Democrats keep ignoring the American people, their party's going to be history in about a year."
Lol
104 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:11:57pm |
The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.
105 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:12:16pm |
re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar
They should have a steel cage match.
Put it on pay-per-view, and we might could cover the health insurance reform.
106 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:14:50pm |
re: #104 Conservative Moonbat
The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.
CPC was cheek-by-jowl with the Democratic Socialists of America until 1999, when the affiliation became an embarassment. The CPC doesn't look all that radical precisely because it is the core of the party.
107 | Kronocide Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:15:54pm |
That's nothin'. You should see me attack a Taco Bell bean burrito or a Coors Light.
108 | dugmartsch Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:17:02pm |
re: #104 Conservative Moonbat
The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.
Seriously. Let's put that one in the dictionary under false equivalence.
109 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:17:49pm |
re: #106 Guanxi88
CPC was cheek-by-jowl with the Democratic Socialists of America until 1999, when the affiliation became an embarassment. The CPC doesn't look all that radical precisely because it is the core of the party.
Which makes them different from the far right wing of the Congressional Republicans how?
I wouldn't a DSA association is any worse than a Birch Society association.
110 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:18:42pm |
re: #109 Conservative Moonbat
Which makes them different from the far right wing of the Congressional Republicans how?
I wouldn't a DSA association is any worse than a Birch Society association.
I wouldn't say a DSM association is in any way worse than a Birch Society association.
PIMF
111 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:20:23pm |
re: #104 Conservative Moonbat
The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.
Let's see, their Policy Foundation has the co-founders of Move-on.org, the founder of Daily Kos, National Director of Americans for Democratic Action, Editor-in-Chief of The Nation, the Founder and co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, to name but a few. A nice cross-section of the Democratic party. Which makes sense, as the CPC is the largest caucus of the dems.
112 | Sharmuta Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:20:30pm |
Palin repeats 'death panel' charge
Sarah Palin is renewing her charge that Democratic healthcare reform will lead to "death panels."
The former Alaska Governor brought up the polarizing phrase in a Facebook post late last night, after the House had passed its legislation.
"We’ve got to hold on to hope, and we’ve got to fight hard because Congressional action tonight just put America on a path toward an unrecognizable country," she wrote.
She added later: "We had been told there were no 'death panels' in the bill either. But look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care."
She's going to keep running this play because it worked before. I'm not so sure it will work a second time.
113 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:21:29pm |
re: #110 Conservative Moonbat
I wouldn't say a DSM association is in any way worse than a Birch Society association.
PIMF
Tell you what, when JBS starts hosting a Tea Party Caucus webpage for congressmembers, we'll talk. There's a difference between association and patronage.
114 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:23:14pm |
re: #108 dugmartsch
Seriously. Let's put that one in the dictionary under false equivalence.
I think that co-opting them, as was done by the CPC, into the party would be exactly the sort of taming these guys would need.
115 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:30:31pm |
re: #108 dugmartsch
Seriously. Let's put that one in the dictionary under false equivalence.
Not really. They each represent the extreme ends of their parties. The tea partiers exist outside of congress and are farther to the right than any republicans in congress. The proper equivalent to the tea partiers on the left would be code pink and the Green party.
116 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:31:44pm |
117 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:32:41pm |
re: #111 Guanxi88
Let's see, their Policy Foundation has the co-founders of Move-on.org, the founder of Daily Kos, National Director of Americans for Democratic Action, Editor-in-Chief of The Nation, the Founder and co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, to name but a few. A nice cross-section of the Democratic party. Which makes sense, as the CPC is the largest caucus of the dems.
None of those groups you mention are as far to the left as the tea partiers are to the right. These are groups interested in working with government, not against it.
118 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:32:47pm |
119 | Sharmuta Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:00pm |
SNL spoof Fox News Election Coverage
Hilarious.
120 | ulmsey123 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:15pm |
The Red Bay Snook's version of "End of Life Counseling." Man, it's rough in the water. No wonder our ancestors crawled the hell out of there.
121 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:41pm |
re: #92 dugmartsch
That's because Ned Lamont is a reasonable person you can have an actual conversation with and generally behaves in a reasonable way.
The Tea Partiers have absolutely nothing in common with that sane though very lefterly guy.
If the tea partier's were agitating for Barry Goldwater or someone like him, I would completely understand. That voice is not currently represented in American Politics and I believe it is sorely missed. They are not. They're full of anger and hate and looking for any crazy outlet to channel it through. I don't even think Tesla could tame that kind of crazy energy source.
Ball lightning? No problem
Tea Party crazy? Radioactive.
Well, nothing like dehumanizing those you oppose.
(That used to be a retort that progressives used, btw).
122 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:42pm |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
I won't be hooked into a pun thread.
this one could scale up rather quickly. If it gets too bad I might gill myself.
123 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:54pm |
re: #115 Conservative Moonbat
Not really. They each represent the extreme ends of their parties. The tea partiers exist outside of congress and are farther to the right than any republicans in congress. The proper equivalent to the tea partiers on the left would be code pink and the Green party.
Code Pink - medea benjamin and jodie evans, their founders, serve, along with many members of the CPC, on the Board of the Progressive Democrats of America. I'd say Code Pink was not quite the outsider one might think it to be. Hey! john Conyers is there, too. Is he a fringer?
124 | Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:34:01pm |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
I won't be hooked into a pun thread.
Some puns might worm their way in here.
125 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:34:42pm |
126 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:04pm |
re: #121 karmic_inquisitor
Well, nothing like dehumanizing those you oppose.
(That used to be a retort that progressives used, btw).
Oh, yeah! Always going on about "eliminationist rhetoric"
127 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:40pm |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
I won't be hooked into a pun thread.
Just put in a plug for health care, on the fly.
128 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:41pm |
129 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:53pm |
re: #123 Guanxi88
Code Pink - medea benjamin and jodie evans, their founders, serve, along with many members of the CPC, on the Board of the Progressive Democrats of America. I'd say Code Pink was not quite the outsider one might think it to be. Hey! john Conyers is there, too. Is he a fringer?
Just remember - Medea et al are all people you could sit down and have a reasonable conversation with.
130 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:55pm |
BREAKING NEWS: 6.7-magnitude earthquake shakes Sumbawa, Indonesia, U.S.G.S. reports
131 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:36:27pm |
132 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:36:50pm |
re: #130 HelloDare
BREAKING NEWS: 6.7-magnitude earthquake shakes Sumbawa, Indonesia, U.S.G.S. reports
I just watched a thing on tsunamis on NGC yesterday. Crap!
133 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:37:13pm |
re: #130 HelloDare
Gosh... place's been shaking a lot lately.
134 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:37:20pm |
re: #129 karmic_inquisitor
Just remember - Medea et al are all people you could sit down and have a reasonable conversation with.
So long as we stayed off politics, history, foreign policy, religion, diet, economics, poetry, literature, and any other topic, I imagine you'd be right.
135 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:37:47pm |
I am a Redskin hater.
But... this is pathetic... even hard for a hater to watch.
136 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:45pm |
re: #128 Conservative Moonbat
and be left floundering
How long are we gonna string along this pun thread?
137 | Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:53pm |
I used to have this fish that ate goldfish just like the one in the video. Suction. The striking thing was how scales would blow out his gills like the fish had just burst inside his mouth.
138 | Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:54pm |
139 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:59pm |
So, what details do we know about our new stealth healthcare bill?
140 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:39:10pm |
re: #129 karmic_inquisitor
Just remember - Medea et al are all people you could sit down and have a reasonable conversation with.
Here's one of Medea Benjamin's arguments being presented to former Secretary of State Rice.
141 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:39:40pm |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am a Redskin hater.
But... this is pathetic... even hard for a hater to watch.
When we hit a LNDT, I will tell you the besr Skins story EVAH!! Promise.
143 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:40:07pm |
144 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:40:13pm |
re: #137 Rightwingconspirator
I used to have this fish that ate goldfish just like the one in the video. Suction. The striking thing was how scales would blow out his gills like the fish had just burst inside his mouth.
Great fish, the arowana. My boss has one made from bronze, gold-plated, sitting on the corner of her desk. Good luck fish to the Chinese, very good luck.
145 | Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:41:34pm |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, what details do we know about our new stealth healthcare bill?
It's been available online for at least a week. They made changes about abortion last night but it's all available.
147 | austin_blue Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:42:32pm |
re: #103 Killgore Trout
The party of doom predicts doom...
Democrats Face Electoral Backlash After Health Care Vote, Top Republican Warns
Lol
Yeah, doing what upwards of 60% of the polity wants is an obvious Epic Fail.
148 | Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:42:33pm |
re: #144 Guanxi88
He was very bad luck for my feeders. Oh well cycle of life. I had a few, they outgrow your tank and you have to sell them off.
149 | Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:00pm |
re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Is that serious?
150 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:04pm |
151 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:08pm |
re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm having a gout attack.
If that's not an obscure fish term, I'm sorry.
152 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:19pm |
re: #148 Rightwingconspirator
He was very bad luck for my feeders. Oh well cycle of life. I had a few, they outgrow your tank and you have to sell them off.
If you've got any good-sized Chinese community by you, let them know if it happens again. Very high status to have a tank with one of those in it.
153 | Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:35pm |
re: #140 Guanxi88
Here's one of Medea Benjamin's arguments being presented to former Secretary of State Rice.
[Link: biglizards.net...]
I once walked right by that woman outside of Union Station. She looked just as nasty and angry in real life as she does in that picture.
154 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:47pm |
re: #149 Rightwingconspirator
Only for the person having the gout attack.
155 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:44:34pm |
re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Only for the person having the gout attack.
WHEN GOUT ATTACKS- Tonight on FOX
156 | Nervous Norvous Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:02pm |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
Not now, I have a haddock.
157 | Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:03pm |
re: #152 Guanxi88
Thanks. But, I just sold my aquarium. These days I spend the time in my photography studio or trips. No more fish for me except on a plate anyway.
158 | Ben G. Hazi Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:22pm |
re: #58 HelloDare
Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.
Meanwhile, Aung San Suu Kyi continues to be a perpetual prisoner on her own home, while few countries in the world show signs that they really give a shit about her treatment at the hands of the junta (other than the usual diplomatic doublespeak). She'll wind up dying in her home prison, but the junta won't kill her outright, because they know they'd be up shit creek if she dies under suspicious circumstances. I'm sure the junta prefers natural causes to take her out for them, because they know that the US (with the UN in tow) would have an actionable reason to go after the junta if Aung San Suu Kyi just ups and dies without conclusive proof that the junta didn't do her in (maybe I'm being optimistic here).
159 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:45pm |
160 | Daniel Ballard Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:46:47pm |
re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sounds painful, sorry to hear that. Toe?
161 | austin_blue Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:02pm |
re: #158 talon_262
Meanwhile, Aung San Suu Kyi continues to be a perpetual prisoner on her own home, while few countries in the world show signs that they really give a shit about her treatment at the hands of the junta (other than the usual diplomatic doublespeak). She'll wind up dying in her home prison, but the junta won't kill her outright, because they know they'd be up shit creek if she dies under suspicious circumstances. I'm sure the junta prefers natural causes to take her out for them, because they know that the US (with the UN in tow) would have an actionable reason to go after the junta if Aung San Suu Kyi just ups and dies without conclusive proof that the junta didn't do her in (maybe I'm being optimistic here).
Well, *not* talking to the junta has certainly worked wonders, hasn't it?
162 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:12pm |
163 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:22pm |
re: #147 austin_blue
Yeah, doing what upwards of 60% of the polity wants is an obvious Epic Fail.
I dunno - didn't seem like the House was all that enthusiastic about it, either. 220 out of 435
164 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:44pm |
re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Only for the person having the gout attack.
Guess, since I can't run it... I'll Limpet.
ZING! and I really am having a gout attack...
165 | Nervous Norvous Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:48:29pm |
re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've had gout...it's one of the least pleasant things I've ever gone through. Found the best way to prevent it was to go semi veg with no more than 3 oz of animal protein per day.
166 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:48:38pm |
re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guess, since I can't run it... I'll Limpet.
ZING! and I really am having a gout attack...
What is that? And do you need pie?
167 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:48:40pm |
re: #160 Rightwingconspirator
Yep. looks like a sausage. 1.5 times the size of the other one. And the swelling has just started... It'll double by morning. But I have meds and don't have to go anywhere.
168 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:00pm |
re: #161 austin_blue
Well, *not* talking to the junta has certainly worked wonders, hasn't it?
Admittedly, but at the very least, we've done nothing to provide them with any legitimacy. This, though... I dunno.
(hey, it's raining again! Woo-hoo!)
170 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:04pm |
re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guess, since I can't run it... I'll Limpet.
ZING! and I really am having a gout attack...
Better than a bad bladder.
(Sorry about the gout.)
171 | austin_blue Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:05pm |
re: #163 Guanxi88
I dunno - didn't seem like the House was all that enthusiastic about it, either. 220 out of 435
The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.
Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.
172 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:27pm |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
I always need pie.
173 | Nervous Norvous Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:42pm |
re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar
I wish, I really do have a splitting headache...happens when I forget to take one of my meds for more than a day or two...
174 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:00pm |
re: #171 austin_blue
The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.
Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.
mmm. Sausage.
175 | Nervous Norvous Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:36pm |
re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Is Beer your cure or your affliction...I found the combo of large quantities of red meat and alcohol is a sure fire gout trigger.
176 | austin_blue Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:45pm |
re: #168 Guanxi88
Admittedly, but at the very least, we've done nothing to provide them with any legitimacy. This, though... I dunno.
(hey, it's raining again! Woo-hoo!)
Nice, innit? I've got the back door open just to listen to that lovely sound.
((patter patter patter))
177 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:46pm |
re: #123 Guanxi88
Code Pink - medea benjamin and jodie evans, their founders, serve, along with many members of the CPC, on the Board of the Progressive Democrats of America. I'd say Code Pink was not quite the outsider one might think it to be. Hey! john Conyers is there, too. Is he a fringer?
Hillary Clinton has met with Code Pink several times. In her office, too. As radical as Code Pink is, they are hardly on the outside of the Democratic party.
178 | Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:52pm |
re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My bandleader has gout and arthritis. That's one of the reasons we're not gigging until December or later. It's kind of hard to play t he guitar when you can't bend your fingers all the way.
179 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:51:01pm |
180 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:51:18pm |
re: #171 austin_blue
The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.
Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.
A School for Scoundrels.
(Morph to pun thread.)
181 | Nervous Norvous Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:52:16pm |
re: #178 Mad Al-Jaffee
I have arthritis on one of my knees..usually know the weather 3 or 4 days in advance. I'm trying to rent it to our local TV station, but they won't return my calls.
182 | Nervous Norvous Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:52:59pm |
okay...back to bed to lie in the dark...
183 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:53:22pm |
re: #176 austin_blue
Nice, innit? I've got the back door open just to listen to that lovely sound.
((patter patter patter))
Folk who haven't had to endure a drought with high humidity don't appreciate how beautiful even a little rain can be. When I was back East, i took the rain for granted, and even grumbled when it rained. Not now.
184 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:53:23pm |
re: #181 PT Barnum
I have arthritis on one of my knees..usually know the weather 3 or 4 days in advance. I'm trying to rent it to our local TV station, but they won't return my calls.
If you had better looking knees they might put you on the air.
/
185 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:53:48pm |
re: #181 PT Barnum
I have arthritis on one of my knees..usually know the weather 3 or 4 days in advance. I'm trying to rent it to our local TV station, but they won't return my calls.
Get a vacuous blonde to point to it.
187 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:54:49pm |
189 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:55:25pm |
re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar
See FOX NEWS.
/kinda
No, it's true. Ya gotta have the eye-candy to sell what you're selling.
190 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:56:50pm |
re: #175 PT Barnum
The reason for the affliction I am sure. Gonna have to lay off the spirits for a few weeks.
191 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:57:23pm |
re: #189 Guanxi88
No, it's true. Ya gotta have the eye-candy to sell what you're selling.
I have made comments about the girl that does traffic on my local CBS station in the morning. I understand. And I don't watch the news, I just know when she comes on.
192 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:58:07pm |
re: #173 PT Barnum
I wish, I really do have a splitting headache...happens when I forget to take one of my meds for more than a day or two...
Blood pressure meds? I get the same thing and I'm on three different pills daily (ACE inhibiter, Calcium channel blocker, & a Beta blocker.)
193 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:58:10pm |
re: #134 Guanxi88
So long as we stayed off politics, history, foreign policy, religion, diet, economics, poetry, literature, and any other topic, I imagine you'd be right.
"So, Medea ... What is your favorite color?"
/ "Doh!"
194 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:58:10pm |
Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.
No, really.
195 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:59:44pm |
re: #194 Guanxi88
Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.
No, really.
There's got to be room for space lizards in there.
196 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:59:48pm |
re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have made comments about the girl that does traffic on my local CBS station in the morning. I understand. And I don't watch the news, I just know when she comes on.
I mean, who would you rather stare at on your TV - a paunchy middle-aged guy, balding and myopic, wheezing on and on about upper-level disturbances and front boundaries, or an easy on the eyes young lady telling you it might rain on Saturday?
197 | Oh no...Sand People! Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:00:01pm |
198 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:00:13pm |
re: #194 Guanxi88
Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.
No, really.
I got a family members email this morning with Prison Planet articles.
199 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:01:11pm |
re: #195 Decatur Deb
There's got to be room for space lizards in there.
Funny thing is he and Icke have got this on-again-off-again feud. He thinks Icke is right in a limited way about the character of the ruling elite, but that he's got reservations about the whole reptilian shapeshifter angle. Icke, for his part, things AJ does a great job in preparing people to embrace a truth that Jones himself is not yet prepared to publicly acknowledge.
200 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:01:16pm |
re: #196 Guanxi88
I mean, who would you rather stare at on your TV - a paunchy middle-aged guy, balding and myopic, wheezing on and on about upper-level disturbances and front boundaries, or an easy on the eyes young lady telling you it might rain on Saturday?
Depends on whether it rains on Saturday. (Taking us back to Steve
Martin and "LA Story".)
201 | Velvet Elvis Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:01:25pm |
re: #177 HelloDare
Hillary Clinton has met with Code Pink several times. In her office, too. As radical as Code Pink is, they are hardly on the outside of the Democratic party.
[Video]
Meeting with people doesn't prove they have any influence. That's just guilt by association. If she'd worked on legislation with CP it might have been a different matter.
202 | SteveC Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:02:27pm |
re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar
I got a family members email this morning with Prison Planet articles.
It could have been worse... I'm not sure how, exactly, but it could have been worse!
203 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:02:45pm |
re: #140 Guanxi88
Here's one of Medea Benjamin's arguments being presented to former Secretary of State Rice.
[Link: biglizards.net...]
Well I can't understand why progressives didn't "google bomb" that pic for "cogent and erudite".
204 | austin_blue Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:03:07pm |
re: #183 Guanxi88
Folk who haven't had to endure a drought with high humidity don't appreciate how beautiful even a little rain can be. When I was back East, i took the rain for granted, and even grumbled when it rained. Not now.
No shit, my man! Every little bit helps.
205 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:03:16pm |
re: #202 SteveC
It could have been worse... I'm not sure how, exactly, but it could have been worse!
Maybe if they hid the key to my booze cabinet!!
/
206 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:03:55pm |
re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar
Maybe if they hid the key to my booze cabinet!!
/
Pocket knife gets those things open with no problem.
207 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:04:13pm |
Heads are exploding in Texas, a pro-gay group of churches is putting up billboards saying that Jesus did not discriminate and even condoned a gay couple.
Extreme outrage from Bill Donahue's Catholic League in 4...3...2...1...
208 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:04:57pm |
re: #206 Guanxi88
Pocket knife gets those things open with no problem.
I have a 12 pound sledge hammer. But, whatever works.:)
209 | austin_blue Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:05:43pm |
re: #194 Guanxi88
Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.
No, really.
"Teh crazy is strong with this one..."
210 | Guanxi88 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:05:44pm |
re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have a 12 pound sledge hammer. But, whatever works.:)
My wife is persnickety, and would certainly over-react to any blemish on the furnishings. So, no 12 lb sledges in the house.
211 | _RememberTonyC Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:06:31pm |
There was a lawyer and he was just waking up from anesthesia after surgery, and his wife was sitting by his side.
His eyes fluttered open and he said, "You're beautiful!" and then he fell asleep again.
His wife had never heard him say that so she stayed by his side. A couple minutes later his eyes fluttered open and he said "You're cute!"
Well, the wife was dissapointed because instead of "beautiful" it was "cute."
She said "What happened to 'beautiful'?"
His reply was "The drugs are wearing off!"
213 | SteveC Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:08:07pm |
FWIW - Wal-Mart sold Halloween candy in a plastic container that looks like a mad scientist's beaker. (2 different beaker styles, but only one type of candy) It wasn't a best seller around here and the remnants are on sale for $1.00.
I got one as a lark, and it turns out that it is GOOD candy! If you see some and are a hard candy lover like me, you might want to buy one.
214 | webevintage Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:08:11pm |
re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
KITTEN MITTONS! YOU'LL BE SMITTEN!
BTW, I ended up making pizza for lunch.
Pizza and apple pie.
Yummm...
215 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:08:42pm |
re: #210 Guanxi88
My wife is persnickety, and would certainly over-react to any blemish on the furnishings. So, no 12 lb sledges in the house.
Flexible Linear Shaped Charge?
216 | SteveC Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:09:44pm |
re: #215 Decatur Deb
Flexible Linear Shaped Charge?
.38 bullet, inserted directly into the lock assembly.
//works in the movies!
217 | karmic_inquisitor Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:10:33pm |
I think I am going to start a new think tank.
It will be called "The Wackodrome Center For Public Policy".
In the Wackodrome opposing guests who strongly advocate what some choose to call extreme positions will have the opportunity to engage each other.
The terms of the engagement of views will be the same as that for The Ultimate Fighting Championship. The forum? A caged octogon.
The foundation will then raise money by broadcasting the engagements on pay-per-view.
First up : Medea Benjamin vs. Glenn Beck
218 | Dar ul Harbarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:13:36pm |
I was just thinking:
Three trillion dollars divided by two thousand pages comes out to 1.5 billion dollars per page.
Each page is kind of like a 1.5 billion dollar bill.
219 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:14:58pm |
re: #218 Dar ul Harbarian
I was just thinking:
Three trillion dollars divided by two thousand pages comes out to 1.5 billion dollars per page.
Each page is kind of like a 1.5 billion dollar bill.
That would seem only half as bad if the bill were twice as large.
220 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:16:28pm |
221 | Bagua Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:17:48pm |
re: #218 Dar ul Harbarian
I was just thinking:
Three trillion dollars divided by two thousand pages comes out to 1.5 billion dollars per page.
Each page is kind of like a 1.5 billion dollar bill.
The eventual cost will be much higher and escalate with each new "fix" and "reform".
The Fix will always be presented with happy sounded labels such as "providing affordable health care for American citizens".
222 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:18:53pm |
re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Two kinds of pie.
Two kinds of pie.
A local feedlot puts up a very tasty apple/cinnamon "pizza". I don't
know if that's widespread.
223 | dugmartsch Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:19:41pm |
re: #121 karmic_inquisitor
Well, nothing like dehumanizing those you oppose.
(That used to be a retort that progressives used, btw).
Are you going to talk about the tea partier's as rational reasonable people who have good policy solutions to pressing national issues? They're a fringe group run and powered by crazy people. And how am i dehumanizing them? Singling them out as crazy people necessitates that I recognize their humanity.
And its fine really. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk are very happy to use them to raise their national profile and the tea partier's are happy to delude themselves into thinking that they have some kind of power or national relevance. The exploitation is mutual, but all they have is rage. Reminds me of Degrees of Grey in Phillipsburg:
Only churches are kept up. The jail
turned 70 this year. The only prisoner
is always in, not knowing what he's done.
The principal supporting business now
is rage. Hatred of the various grays
the mountain sends, hatred of the mill,
The Silver Bill repeal, the best liked girls
who leave each year for Butte."
[Link: plagiarist.com...]
224 | BethesdaDog Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:20:23pm |
When I was a kid growing up in south Florida I used to fish the salt-water canals and bays.
The snook was a prized game fish. It was the smaller cousin to the tarpon, and had many of the same fighting qualities when hooked. It would leap and twist, interspersing with mad, frantic short runs around pilings and wherever it could to try to free itself from the hook.
I used to fish at night near a little bridge and we knew there was a snook there, since it would leap out of the water every night. One night I hooked it, and I was thrilled when I pulled it in. Often enough, a snook would free itself, so it was always a challenge to land one.
I was dismayed when I found it was under the 18" limit for keepers.
It was also said to be an excellent fish for eating but you could only taste it if you caught one yourself, since it was illegal to catch them for commercial purposes. You couldn't buy it at a seafood counter, and couldn't eat it in a restaurant.
I don't know if this snook is the same species, but it brings back memories.
Never caught a sea kitten, though.
225 | HelloDare Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:20:32pm |
re: #201 Conservative Moonbat
Meeting with people doesn't prove they have any influence. That's just guilt by association. If she'd worked on legislation with CP it might have been a different matter.
It gives credibility to these people. She could meet with them, talk with them in the halls of congress, but not in her office. Code Pink will use the fact that she met with them in that way to their advantage.
226 | dugmartsch Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:23:48pm |
re: #171 austin_blue
The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.
Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.
Pfft. That has Rahm's fingerprints all over it. The guy is slick. Like turning a no vote into a yes vote in NY-23, and allowing another seat to vote no that they've got a shot to win with a no vote in 2010.
And the Republican Answer is: Glenn Beck and 9/12. Not going to get the job done. I know there's a tendency to always read bumbling idiocy into all the moves of the minority party when they're in the minority but they are playing into that narrative pretty nicely.
227 | BethesdaDog Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:25:18pm |
Of course, after posting the earlier post, I find out that this fish has nothing to do with the gamefish "common snook" that was found in south Florida waters.
The Redbay Snook is a cichlid, a fish kept in aquariums in the U.S.
Oh well, it still brought back memories of that night I caught my snook.
228 | Decatur Deb Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:30:05pm |
re: #227 BethesdaDog
Of course, after posting the earlier post, I find out that this fish has nothing to do with the gamefish "common snook" that was found in south Florida waters.
The Redbay Snook is a cichlid, a fish kept in aquariums in the U.S.
Oh well, it still brought back memories of that night I caught my snook.
Are you trying to start another piscine contest?