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1 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:43:05am

Evolution is cool.

2 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:43:25am

Would that fish be good in an omelet?

3 SixDegrees  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:44:14am

Sucks to be food.

4 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:47:11am

That looks like me eating chicken wings.

5 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:48:00am

Know why fish are so skinny?

All they eat is fish.

6 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:49:13am

re: #2 MandyManners

Would that fish be good in an omelet?

When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.

7 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:51:13am

OT : Per the NYT it looks like Democrats are going to have their own sort of "tea party" insurrection to deal with. The Left Wing is demanding ideological purity and is getting set to throw out the blue dogs.

I take no joy in it.

8 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:52:02am

I read an article about a month ago where they said overfishing was dooming what ever they put in filet o'fish from McDonalds. I don't eat there often, but when I do that's one of the things I get.

9 S'latch  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:52:47am

There is something fishy about that video.

10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:53:20am

"Creation Care for Pastors"...

Boy, if the guys paying for that ad only knew...

11 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:53:24am

re: #9 Lawrence Schmerel

There is something fishy about that video.

Don't try to bait us in to looking at it again.

12 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:53:37am

Great spinoff on Lindsey Graham. He's a leader, and I'm starting to think he'd be a great candidate in 2012.

13 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:54:09am

What does that video look like at full speed.

I'm guessing like "POOF!"

14 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:54:55am

re: #3 SixDegrees

Sucks to be food.

It's good to be an apex predator.

15 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:55:43am

re: #6 Killgore Trout

When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.

One of the redeeming features of cuisine in Vietnam and Cambodia as well.

Believe it or not the Dutch did a fairly good job in Indonesia too.

16 Athens Runaway  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56:03am

re: #7 karmic_inquisitor

OT : Per the NYT it looks like Democrats are going to have their own sort of "tea party" insurrection to deal with. The Left Wing is demanding ideological purity and is getting set to throw out the blue dogs.

I take no joy in it.

I doubt we'll hear nonstop about how this is a bad thing and is going to destroy America.

17 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56:26am

Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.

18 Gus  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:56:57am

re: #17 Sharmuta

Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.

Food was meant to be inhaled!

/

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:58:14am

re: #17 Sharmuta

Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.

FWIW, men of any age can't wait for pizza to cool down. Eternal pizza burn.

20 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:58:32am

re: #15 Bobibutu

Anthony Bordain loves Vietnam. I should add that to my list of places to visit.

21 tradewind  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:58:45am

Okay, rethinking the red snapper for supper now...///

22 albusteve  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:59:25am

re: #6 Killgore Trout

When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.

I would try marlin an a heartbeat...I love the big game fishes, and smoked sounds delicious

23 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 10:59:43am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

FWIW, men of any age can't wait for pizza to cool down. Eternal pizza burn.

Never understood why so many folk like their pizza hot. me? I'll take it cold or at room temp, if need be. Just so long as it's there.

24 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:13am

re: #17 Sharmuta

Suction feeding... Isn't that what teenage boys do? I'm not even sure they taste their food.

It seems to carry over into adults as well. I've seen guys at business lunches and dinners suck down shrimp cocktails with nary a chomp. I suppose I've been guilty a time or three myself.

25 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:26am

re: #22 albusteve

I would try marlin an a heartbeat...I love the big game fishes, and smoked sounds delicious

There's not a meat or cheese known or unknown to Man that isn't improved by smoking.

26 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:28am

re: #18 Gus 802

Food was meant to be inhaled!

/

Having watched a few of my teenaged cousins eating, I have to agree.

27 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:00:47am

re: #23 Guanxi88

Never understood why so many folk like their pizza hot. me? I'll take it cold or at room temp, if need be. Just so long as it's there.

I went to NYC in '07. Brought pizza home in my luggage.

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:01:21am

re: #17 Sharmuta

My mother still bitches me out about how fast I eat.

29 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:02:35am

re: #27 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to NYC in '07. Brought pizza home in my luggage.

I used to go around with hardboiled eggs in my topcoat pockets.

30 Gus  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:02:44am

re: #26 Sharmuta

Having watched a few of my teenaged cousins eating, I have to agree.

True. A frequent subject in a couple of movies as well. It's always a good idea to chew during the process -- helps to digest the food better.

31 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:03:07am

re: #30 Gus 802

True. A frequent subject in a couple of movies as well. It's always a good idea to chew during the process -- helps to digest the food better.

Slows you down, though, and the chief thing is quantity consumed per minute.

32 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:03:29am

re: #22 albusteve

I had the opportunity to go out marlin fishing but passed. The big game sport fishing isn't really my thing. We were staying in a fishing village and I talked one of the local fisherman in taking me out to help him pull nets all day. He was a little confused why I wanted to go out with him and work all day. It was a lot of fun and a threw him a few bucks at the end of the day, I'm sure I was more of a pain in the ass than a help.

33 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:04:41am

A feeding snook. Good metaphor for the government sucking up tax dollars. Which makes as schnooks.

34 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:04:49am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Anthony Bordain loves Vietnam. I should add that to my list of places to visit.

Hell - he loves planet earth as long as it has something moving in the area he's in.

I hear Vietnam now is much like Korea was in the 60s. One of the best kept secrets in Asia. In the 60s few wanted to even visit Korea - once there one wanted to stay.

I haven't been back since the late 70s. Maybe in 2010 for a few months or more.

35 Irenicum  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:04:53am

That just sucks.

36 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:20am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Recollect when I used to fix antique furniture. One of our steadiest customers was a frenchman - owned a swanky shop in town. Guy used to come around on Fridays and just hang out all day. he'd bring in beer and burgers, and work at a bench on whatever we had that wasn't getting done at the time. It baffled me that he'd pay to do what we were paid to do.

Then I had to get a real job, and i understood.

37 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:45am

re: #30 Gus 802

True. A frequent subject in a couple of movies as well. It's always a good idea to chew during the process -- helps to digest the food better.

It takes 20 minutes (IIRC) for your brain to get the signal from your stomach that it's full, so speed eating can be problematic in that some are eating more than they need to because they're eating so quickly. Slowing down and enjoying one's food could help reduce some obesity.

38 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:52am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

FWIW, men of any age can't wait for pizza to cool down. Eternal pizza burn.

Damn - that hurt the roof of my mouth just reading it.

39 Irenicum  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:05:53am

re: #7 karmic_inquisitor

That really sucks.

40 subsailor68  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:06:39am

re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My mother still bitches me out about how fast I eat.

Hi FBV. Heh, yep, I got that too. However, for me it was years of conditioning:

On submarines, you developed two interesting habits. First, meals were a place to go, eat, and clear a space for other guys waiting - particularly if you were going on watch.

Second, bunks - depending on your size - were places to squeeze into, get as comfortable as possible, and not move again if you could help it.

To this day, I eat like I'm getting ready to go on watch, and my wife is amazed that I crawl into our king-sized bed, take up about 1/100th of it, and never move. (That little foible she really, really likes!)

41 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:06:59am

re: #16 Athens Runaway

I doubt we'll hear nonstop about how this is a bad thing and is going to destroy America.

True that.

The Ned Lamonts will never be ridiculed by the media.

42 lostlakehiker  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:07:21am

I'm a sucker for a good science video.

43 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:07:47am

re: #41 karmic_inquisitor

True that.

The Ned Lamonts will never be ridiculed by the media.

They're just committed idealists; conservatives are just plain evil.

44 Irenicum  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:08:47am

re: #27 Cannadian Club Akbar

That brought a belly laugh! And I totally understand! NYC pizza rules!

45 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:08:48am

This country needs a vast centrist conspiracy.

46 webevintage  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:09am

re: #7 karmic_inquisitor

OT : Per the NYT it looks like Democrats are going to have their own sort of "tea party" insurrection to deal with. The Left Wing is demanding ideological purity and is getting set to throw out the blue dogs.

I take no joy in it.

I know.
I go back and forth between being furious with Miz (Sen.) Blanche (Lincoln) since the polling here in Arkansas shows that the people who actually vote for her (Dems and independants) want the option of the public option to be in the health care bill (even though she claims there is not enough support in Arkansas) to knowing that in the end I would be really unhappy with someone like Jim Holt as Senator.
So I'll end up holding my nose and voting for big money, big agra Blanche.

I am so fucking disappointed in my "used to be a solid, dependable lefty" Rep. Vic Snyder for voting for the Stupek amendment I could spit.
(maybe he voted for it just for the house bill to pass, don't know)

This is a man I truly admire for a pol.
True story:
We go to the Memorial Day things here and while the rest of the pols are up on the bandstand making speeches and such, he is there in the crowd honoring the dead as a vet. To me that has always said so much about his character.

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:13am

re: #40 subsailor68

You have something in common with my wife. She doesn't move in bed either.

48 SixDegrees  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:21am

re: #6 Killgore Trout

When I was in Mauritius last year (near Madagascar) one of my favorite dishes was a smoked Marlin omelet with cheese. The French colonists left behind some really good food.

The best cuisines often appear in areas where there's massive cultural mixing. The Caribbean; the American Southwest; Morrocco; Indonesia. Even what is now referred to as French cuisine arose as a result of the blending of a much more rustic French style of cooking with the cooking of Spain and - in particular - the wealth of new flavors introduced from the New World.

For a very thorough examination of this matter, see Raymond Sokolov's Why We Eat What We Eat.

49 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:09:58am

re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have something in common with my wife. She doesn't move in bed either.

English, is she?

///

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:10:43am

re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have something in common with my wife. She doesn't move in bed either.

You best hope she isn't looking over your shoulder!!

51 Gus  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:11:19am

Petenia splendida
The Bay Snook or Red Bay Snook

BBL

52 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:11:39am

re: #48 SixDegrees

Thanks, I'll add that to my list.

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:12:04am

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

She wasn't. But I read it out-loud as I typed it.

54 Irenicum  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:12:10am

re: #45 karmic_inquisitor

Best line of the day! May your updings be endless!

55 webevintage  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:12:12am

re: #23 Guanxi88

Never understood why so many folk like their pizza hot. me? I'll take it cold or at room temp, if need be. Just so long as it's there.

I like the cheese nice and melted, gooey...but not so hot it burns the roof of my mouth.

56 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:13:56am

re: #55 webevintage

I like the cheese nice and melted, gooey...but not so hot it burns the roof of my mouth.

I used to go around in starched shirts, good ties, and such. Gooey cheese on pizza was the last thing I wanted. I'd grab a slice of room-temp "white" pizza, fold it in half, and power-walk to the next meeting where I'd get bitched out for something or other. Great combo - food bolted down, and gut-wrenching stress.

57 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:14:22am

re: #55 webevintage

I like the cheese nice and melted, gooey...but not so hot it burns the roof of my mouth.

The reason men eat really hot pizza is it gives us an excuse to take a chug of the ice cold beer right next to it.:)

58 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:14:37am

Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.

Obama to Meet With Prime Minister of Myanmar

Officials have not said whether Mr. Obama will meet privately with Thein Sein. The last U.S. president to meet with a Myanmar head of state was Lyndon B. Johnson. He talked with Ne Win, who was then the prime minister, in September 1966 in Washington, according to Richard Mei, the U.S. Embassy spokesman in Myanmar. The country was then called Burma.

Under Mr. Obama, Washington has reversed the policy of the administration of President George W. Bush of shunning Myanmar in favor of direct talks with the country, which has been under military rule since 1962.

Myanmar welcomed the shift in U.S. policy, Min Lwin said, describing the change as “positive.”

59 Irenicum  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:07am

You guys and gals are making me hungry! And it's stunningly beautiful outside. So see ya later lizards!

60 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:25am

re: #58 HelloDare

Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.

Revolting! What the Hell does he think he can accomplish by talking to this evil piece of shit?

61 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:40am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Reminds me of similar stuff I did in remote villages in Malaysia and Indonesia. Most folks had never seen a westerner before but welcomed my tagging along for whatever. The tough part was getting them to keep the results of what ever my contribution was. i.e., fish, clams, etc. I got to be creative over time in getting it turned around.

62 redshirt  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:40am

Is it mere coincidence that this video is posted the day after the Federal Government did the same thing to health care?
Is Charles making a subliminal message?

63 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:42am

re: #56 Guanxi88

You should see guys in ties eating a bowl of soup. They usually dunk the tie once before the lesson is learned.

64 SixDegrees  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:15:59am

re: #56 Guanxi88

I used to go around in starched shirts, good ties, and such. Gooey cheese on pizza was the last thing I wanted. I'd grab a slice of room-temp "white" pizza, fold it in half, and power-walk to the next meeting where I'd get bitched out for something or other. Great combo - food bolted down, and gut-wrenching stress.

There's nothing that makes quite such a clear statement as throwing up on your supervisor.

65 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:18:19am

re: #58 HelloDare

Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.

I wish the President well. However if he and his advisors think he is going to bring Hope & Change there - they are delusional.

66 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:18:34am

A little background on the charming Burmese with whom BHO will meet:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(used to be called SLORC - State Law and Order Restoration Council)

Another dictatorship. Troubling pattern of diplomacy.

67 bratwurst  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:18:59am

re: #16 Athens Runaway

I doubt we'll hear nonstop about how this is a bad thing and is going to destroy America.

Should one side in this internecine conflict start embracing Birchers and Nirthers, you just might.

68 Athens Runaway  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:19:42am

re: #66 Guanxi88

A little background on the charming Burmese with whom BHO will meet:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(used to be called SLORC - State Law and Order Restoration Council)

Another dictatorship. Troubling pattern of diplomacy.

This is TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.

69 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:19:59am

re: #64 SixDegrees

There's nothing that makes quite such a clear statement as throwing up on your supervisor.

Came close only once. Thought I'd steady my nerves with a few quick drinks. bad idea. I showed up sweaty, bleary, and nervous. Yakked in the trashcan by the reception staff. Whole thing was chalked up to some flu bug that was going around.

70 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:21:19am

re: #65 Bobibutu

I wish the President well. However if he and his advisors think he is going to bring Hope & Change there - they are delusional.

There is nothing that Obama can say that couldn't be said through a back-door meeting with lower level people. This meeting will do nothing but give credibility to an evil regime.

71 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:22:59am

re: #70 HelloDare

There is nothing that Obama can say that couldn't be said through a back-door meeting with lower level people. This meeting will do nothing but give credibility to an evil regime.

Given that the junta in Burma (I refuse to call it Myanmar) has such close ties, commercially, with the NorK's, i wonder what Kim will think of all this.

72 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:24:25am

re: #71 Guanxi88

Given that the junta in Burma (I refuse to call it Myanmar) has such close ties, commercially, with the NorK's, i wonder what Kim will think of all this.

Well, also military and technology exchanges. So, not just business ties between the junta and kim.

73 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:24:34am

CNN's ratings are so bad that they're hoping the White House will start a war with them and say they're not a real news organization.

74 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:25:18am

re: #73 _RememberTonyC

CNN's ratings are so bad that they're hoping the White House will start a war with them and say they're not a real news organization.

What is this CNN you speak of?

75 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:26:38am

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

What is this CNN you speak of?

the network of the undead Larry King and the brain dead Campbell Brown ...

76 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:28:21am

re: #71 Guanxi88

Given that the junta in Burma (I refuse to call it Myanmar) has such close ties, commercially, with the NorK's, i wonder what Kim will think of all this.

Asia Times reported last year on the Burmese junta's nascent nuclear program, and the kind assistance provided by the NorK's in getting that little project off the ground.

Oh, and NorK's been shipping arms into Burma, and providing technical assistance in the construction of bunker and tunnel complexes for the likes of him with whom BHO will meet in private.

77 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:34:20am

re: #66 Guanxi88

A little background on the charming Burmese with whom BHO will meet:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(used to be called SLORC - State Law and Order Restoration Council)

Another dictatorship. Troubling pattern of diplomacy.

As I said on the previous thread the US can no longer afford to be in the business of trying to liberate people around the world.

We will do what the French do - pay lip service to high minded ideals and then cut deals with dictators. Wives of the dictators go on shopping sprees in Paris with their blood stained Euros and compete for luxury hotel rooms with the oil princes and their shopping entourages.

As long as we can congratulate each other on our latest declaration of resolve regarding some pathetic oppressed group somewhere while we wait on our shrimp cocktails to be served to us at the latest policy conference then everything will be fine.

78 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:36:07am

re: #70 HelloDare

There is nothing that Obama can say that couldn't be said through a back-door meeting with lower level people. This meeting will do nothing but give credibility to an evil regime.

You are absolutely right. I've been to Burma - twice - granted it was early and mid 70s before it really got crazy. I don't know - Obama is supposed to have this experience from living in Indonesia, etc. Iran is playing him and the rest of the world for fools. And he thinks he can take on Asians who manipulated their way into power and have held it for decades. He must really believe he's smokin' hot. I could be totally off the wall but I hope he gets a reality check soon.

79 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:38:42am

re: #78 Bobibutu

You are absolutely right. I've been to Burma - twice - granted it was early and mid 70s before it really got crazy. I don't know - Obama is supposed to have this experience from living in Indonesia, etc. Iran is playing him and the rest of the world for fools. And he thinks he can take on Asians who manipulated their way into power and have held it for decades. He must really believe he's smokin' hot. I could be totally off the wall but I hope he gets a reality check soon.

Some lizard said this once. I don't recall who it was.

The world is playing chess and Obama is still learning checkers.

80 Athens Runaway  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:41:58am

re: #77 karmic_inquisitor

As I said on the previous thread the US can no longer afford to be in the business of trying to liberate people around the world.

We will do what the French do - pay lip service to high minded ideals and then cut deals with dictators. Wives of the dictators go on shopping sprees in Paris with their blood stained Euros and compete for luxury hotel rooms with the oil princes and their shopping entourages.

As long as we can congratulate each other on our latest declaration of resolve regarding some pathetic oppressed group somewhere while we wait on our shrimp cocktails to be served to us at the latest policy conference then everything will be fine.

Well, it IS what the majority of Americans want.

81 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:43:25am

re: #77 karmic_inquisitor

As I said on the previous thread the US can no longer afford to be in the business of trying to liberate people around the world.

We will do what the French do - pay lip service to high minded ideals and then cut deals with dictators. Wives of the dictators go on shopping sprees in Paris with their blood stained Euros and compete for luxury hotel rooms with the oil princes and their shopping entourages.

As long as we can congratulate each other on our latest declaration of resolve regarding some pathetic oppressed group somewhere while we wait on our shrimp cocktails to be served to us at the latest policy conference then everything will be fine.

It's a sad thing, really, but I suspect you're correct. The last and greatest of human dreams, and all that.

Wonder what we'll have to do about the motto of the US Army Special Forces:
De Opresso Liber.

Maybe Cato could help render a new version.

82 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:44:48am

I'm not saying we need to go abroad in search of monsters to slay, but that doesn't mean we have to scratch the dragon's chin and look the other way while he burns down a village and eats the locals.

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:47:36am

re: #82 Guanxi88

I'm not saying we need to go abroad in search of monsters to slay, but that doesn't mean we have to scratch the dragon's chin and look the other way while he burns down a village and eats the locals.

There are some, sadly, who believe that.

84 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:48:56am

re: #80 Athens Runaway

Well, it IS what the majority of Americans want.

Yes it is.

I had a discussion with a friend who is English and works in DC as a free lance policy wonk for different think tanks -- a pretty cool job but he is over educated, articulate and thinks 50 moves ahead, so he deserves it. Anyway, he told me about 5 years ago that the Democrats had really turned into the reactionary party and that they would come to power on a promise to turn back the clocks but presented in a way that seemed forward looking.

I argued with him.

He was dead right.

I think I will email him my concession on the matter.

85 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:51:03am

re: #82 Guanxi88

I'm not saying we need to go abroad in search of monsters to slay, but that doesn't mean we have to scratch the dragon's chin and look the other way while he burns down a village and eats the locals.

What? When there is an opportunity to sell him people-eating sauce? You know - the product you send him discreetly through some third party after you have your "strongly worded letter" press conference.

86 Athens Runaway  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:52:10am

re: #84 karmic_inquisitor

Yes it is.

I had a discussion with a friend who is English and works in DC as a free lance policy wonk for different think tanks -- a pretty cool job but he is over educated, articulate and thinks 50 moves ahead, so he deserves it. Anyway, he told me about 5 years ago that the Democrats had really turned into the reactionary party and that they would come to power on a promise to turn back the clocks but presented in a way that seemed forward looking.

I argued with him.

He was dead right.

I think I will email him my concession on the matter.

In other words, Howard Dean happened.

It's very sad to to see this happen. I wonder what country will be the shining city on the hill, because it sure as hell won't be us anymore.

87 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:56:05am

re: #86 Athens Runaway


I wonder what country will be the shining city on the hill, because it sure as hell won't be us anymore.

Sad thing is, I don't really see a candidate on the horizon. Hopefully, this is just a temporary aberration, and the nation that fought the Axis to destruction and the Soviets to exhaustion will step up again.

88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:56:23am

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

You should see guys in ties eating a bowl of soup. They usually dunk the tie once before the lesson is learned.

Paper shredders? You only do that once.

89 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:56:54am

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Paper shredders? You only do that once.

File cabinets were my nemesis. Started wearing very small tie-bars to prevent it.

90 oh_dude  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:58:49am

Meat is Murder.

91 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:59:28am

re: #87 Guanxi88

Sad thing is, I don't really see a candidate on the horizon. Hopefully, this is just a temporary aberration, and the nation that fought the Axis to destruction and the Soviets to exhaustion will step up again.

That would be Change I could believe in. A raft of social programs and bail-outs for the government-corporate complex, which seems to be on tap domestically, combined with weakness and dithering internationally, is pretty unsatisfactory, I gotta tell ya.

92 dugmartsch  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:59:31am

re: #41 karmic_inquisitor

True that.

The Ned Lamonts will never be ridiculed by the media.

That's because Ned Lamont is a reasonable person you can have an actual conversation with and generally behaves in a reasonable way.

The Tea Partiers have absolutely nothing in common with that sane though very lefterly guy.

If the tea partier's were agitating for Barry Goldwater or someone like him, I would completely understand. That voice is not currently represented in American Politics and I believe it is sorely missed. They are not. They're full of anger and hate and looking for any crazy outlet to channel it through. I don't even think Tesla could tame that kind of crazy energy source.

Ball lightning? No problem

Tea Party crazy? Radioactive.

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 11:59:32am

re: #90 oh_dude

Meat is Murder.

No, it's what's for dinner.

94 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:00:02pm

re: #90 oh_dude

Meat is Murder.

Then that would make eggs kidnapping, right?

95 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:02:51pm

re: #92 dugmartsch

That's because Ned Lamont is a reasonable person you can have an actual conversation with and generally behaves in a reasonable way.

The Tea Partiers have absolutely nothing in common with that sane though very lefterly guy.

If the tea partier's were agitating for Barry Goldwater or someone like him, I would completely understand. That voice is not currently represented in American Politics and I believe it is sorely missed. They are not. They're full of anger and hate and looking for any crazy outlet to channel it through. I don't even think Tesla could tame that kind of crazy energy source.

Ball lightning? No problem

Tea Party crazy? Radioactive.

The Tea Party is the conservative version of the WCW and other assorted leftist noisemakers that eventually sorta kinda worked themselves into successful obscurity. Just give it a little time.

96 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:05:49pm

Is that a fish or a White House intern?

97 Athens Runaway  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:07:15pm

re: #95 Guanxi88

The Tea Party is the conservative version of the WCW and other assorted leftist noisemakers that eventually sorta kinda worked themselves into successful obscurity. Just give it a little time.

Nah, World Can't Wait is still out there. They're just quiet because they got their guy into the White House.

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:07:31pm

KITTEN MITTONS! YOU'LL BE SMITTEN!

99 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:07:42pm

[Link: cpc.grijalva.house.gov...]

For the left version of what the Tea Party movement might become.

100 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:08:05pm

re: #97 Athens Runaway

Nah, World Can't Wait is still out there. They're just quiet because they got their guy into the White House.

That's the successful obscurity I was referencing.

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:08:55pm

re: #99 Guanxi88

[Link: cpc.grijalva.house.gov...]

For the left version of what the Tea Party movement might become.

They should have a steel cage match.

102 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:09:42pm

re: #96 Mad Al-Jaffee

Is that a fish or a White House intern?

Lewinsnook.

103 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:10:09pm

The party of doom predicts doom...
Democrats Face Electoral Backlash After Health Care Vote, Top Republican Warns

The message from last night is that the Democrats didn't get the message in August or last Tuesday," Pence said, referring to the town hall meetings over the summer where members of the public protested the plan and last Tuesday's election where Democrats lost two big governor's races.

"I think the American people are deeply frustrated with a liberal establishment in Washington, D.C. that is ignoring their will," Pence said. "If Democrats keep ignoring the American people, their party's going to be history in about a year."


Lol

104 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:11:57pm

The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.

105 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:12:16pm

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

They should have a steel cage match.

Put it on pay-per-view, and we might could cover the health insurance reform.

106 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:14:50pm

re: #104 Conservative Moonbat

The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.

CPC was cheek-by-jowl with the Democratic Socialists of America until 1999, when the affiliation became an embarassment. The CPC doesn't look all that radical precisely because it is the core of the party.

107 Kronocide  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:15:54pm

That's nothin'. You should see me attack a Taco Bell bean burrito or a Coors Light.

108 dugmartsch  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:17:02pm

re: #104 Conservative Moonbat

The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.

Seriously. Let's put that one in the dictionary under false equivalence.

109 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:17:49pm

re: #106 Guanxi88

CPC was cheek-by-jowl with the Democratic Socialists of America until 1999, when the affiliation became an embarassment. The CPC doesn't look all that radical precisely because it is the core of the party.

Which makes them different from the far right wing of the Congressional Republicans how?

I wouldn't a DSA association is any worse than a Birch Society association.

110 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:18:42pm

re: #109 Conservative Moonbat

Which makes them different from the far right wing of the Congressional Republicans how?

I wouldn't a DSA association is any worse than a Birch Society association.

I wouldn't say a DSM association is in any way worse than a Birch Society association.

PIMF

111 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:20:23pm

re: #104 Conservative Moonbat

The CPC is nothing like the Tea Partiers. The CPC is the equivalent to all non-moderate elected congressmen from the Republican party, in other words, most congressional republicans.

Let's see, their Policy Foundation has the co-founders of Move-on.org, the founder of Daily Kos, National Director of Americans for Democratic Action, Editor-in-Chief of The Nation, the Founder and co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, to name but a few. A nice cross-section of the Democratic party. Which makes sense, as the CPC is the largest caucus of the dems.

112 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:20:30pm

Palin repeats 'death panel' charge

Sarah Palin is renewing her charge that Democratic healthcare reform will lead to "death panels."

The former Alaska Governor brought up the polarizing phrase in a Facebook post late last night, after the House had passed its legislation.

"We’ve got to hold on to hope, and we’ve got to fight hard because Congressional action tonight just put America on a path toward an unrecognizable country," she wrote.

She added later: "We had been told there were no 'death panels' in the bill either. But look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care."

She's going to keep running this play because it worked before. I'm not so sure it will work a second time.

113 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:21:29pm

re: #110 Conservative Moonbat

I wouldn't say a DSM association is in any way worse than a Birch Society association.

PIMF

Tell you what, when JBS starts hosting a Tea Party Caucus webpage for congressmembers, we'll talk. There's a difference between association and patronage.

114 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:23:14pm

re: #108 dugmartsch

Seriously. Let's put that one in the dictionary under false equivalence.

I think that co-opting them, as was done by the CPC, into the party would be exactly the sort of taming these guys would need.

115 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:30:31pm

re: #108 dugmartsch

Seriously. Let's put that one in the dictionary under false equivalence.

Not really. They each represent the extreme ends of their parties. The tea partiers exist outside of congress and are farther to the right than any republicans in congress. The proper equivalent to the tea partiers on the left would be code pink and the Green party.

116 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:31:44pm

re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't try to bait us in to looking at it again.

Look, chum.

117 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:32:41pm

re: #111 Guanxi88

Let's see, their Policy Foundation has the co-founders of Move-on.org, the founder of Daily Kos, National Director of Americans for Democratic Action, Editor-in-Chief of The Nation, the Founder and co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, to name but a few. A nice cross-section of the Democratic party. Which makes sense, as the CPC is the largest caucus of the dems.

None of those groups you mention are as far to the left as the tea partiers are to the right. These are groups interested in working with government, not against it.

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:32:47pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Look, chum.

I won't be hooked into a pun thread.

119 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:00pm

SNL spoof Fox News Election Coverage

Hilarious.

120 ulmsey123  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:15pm

The Red Bay Snook's version of "End of Life Counseling." Man, it's rough in the water. No wonder our ancestors crawled the hell out of there.

121 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:41pm

re: #92 dugmartsch

That's because Ned Lamont is a reasonable person you can have an actual conversation with and generally behaves in a reasonable way.

The Tea Partiers have absolutely nothing in common with that sane though very lefterly guy.

If the tea partier's were agitating for Barry Goldwater or someone like him, I would completely understand. That voice is not currently represented in American Politics and I believe it is sorely missed. They are not. They're full of anger and hate and looking for any crazy outlet to channel it through. I don't even think Tesla could tame that kind of crazy energy source.

Ball lightning? No problem

Tea Party crazy? Radioactive.

Well, nothing like dehumanizing those you oppose.

(That used to be a retort that progressives used, btw).

122 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:42pm

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

I won't be hooked into a pun thread.

this one could scale up rather quickly. If it gets too bad I might gill myself.

123 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:33:54pm

re: #115 Conservative Moonbat

Not really. They each represent the extreme ends of their parties. The tea partiers exist outside of congress and are farther to the right than any republicans in congress. The proper equivalent to the tea partiers on the left would be code pink and the Green party.

Code Pink - medea benjamin and jodie evans, their founders, serve, along with many members of the CPC, on the Board of the Progressive Democrats of America. I'd say Code Pink was not quite the outsider one might think it to be. Hey! john Conyers is there, too. Is he a fringer?

124 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:34:01pm

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

I won't be hooked into a pun thread.

Some puns might worm their way in here.

125 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:34:42pm

re: #124 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some puns might worm their way in here.

Careful, you might get a shiner.

126 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:04pm

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Well, nothing like dehumanizing those you oppose.

(That used to be a retort that progressives used, btw).

Oh, yeah! Always going on about "eliminationist rhetoric"

127 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:40pm

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

I won't be hooked into a pun thread.

Just put in a plug for health care, on the fly.

128 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:41pm

re: #125 Cannadian Club Akbar

Careful, you might get a shiner.

and be left floundering

129 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:53pm

re: #123 Guanxi88

Code Pink - medea benjamin and jodie evans, their founders, serve, along with many members of the CPC, on the Board of the Progressive Democrats of America. I'd say Code Pink was not quite the outsider one might think it to be. Hey! john Conyers is there, too. Is he a fringer?

Just remember - Medea et al are all people you could sit down and have a reasonable conversation with.

130 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:35:55pm

BREAKING NEWS: 6.7-magnitude earthquake shakes Sumbawa, Indonesia, U.S.G.S. reports

131 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:36:27pm

re: #128 Conservative Moonbat

and be left floundering

I have no treble with that.

132 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:36:50pm

re: #130 HelloDare

BREAKING NEWS: 6.7-magnitude earthquake shakes Sumbawa, Indonesia, U.S.G.S. reports

I just watched a thing on tsunamis on NGC yesterday. Crap!

133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:37:13pm

re: #130 HelloDare

Gosh... place's been shaking a lot lately.

134 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:37:20pm

re: #129 karmic_inquisitor

Just remember - Medea et al are all people you could sit down and have a reasonable conversation with.

So long as we stayed off politics, history, foreign policy, religion, diet, economics, poetry, literature, and any other topic, I imagine you'd be right.

135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:37:47pm

I am a Redskin hater.

But... this is pathetic... even hard for a hater to watch.

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:45pm

re: #128 Conservative Moonbat

and be left floundering

How long are we gonna string along this pun thread?

137 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:53pm

I used to have this fish that ate goldfish just like the one in the video. Suction. The striking thing was how scales would blow out his gills like the fish had just burst inside his mouth.

Video of another arowana eating

138 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:54pm

re: #128 Conservative Moonbat

and be left floundering

Someone should fin-ish this thread.

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:38:59pm

So, what details do we know about our new stealth healthcare bill?

140 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:39:10pm

re: #129 karmic_inquisitor

Just remember - Medea et al are all people you could sit down and have a reasonable conversation with.

Here's one of Medea Benjamin's arguments being presented to former Secretary of State Rice.

Image: CodePinkConfrontsCondoleezza.jpg

141 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:39:40pm

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am a Redskin hater.

But... this is pathetic... even hard for a hater to watch.

When we hit a LNDT, I will tell you the besr Skins story EVAH!! Promise.

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:40:06pm

re: #141 Cannadian Club Akbar

best-PIMF

143 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:40:07pm

re: #138 Mad Al-Jaffee

Someone should fin-ish this thread.

Any seine person would stop now.

144 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:40:13pm

re: #137 Rightwingconspirator

I used to have this fish that ate goldfish just like the one in the video. Suction. The striking thing was how scales would blow out his gills like the fish had just burst inside his mouth.

Video of another arowana eating

Great fish, the arowana. My boss has one made from bronze, gold-plated, sitting on the corner of her desk. Good luck fish to the Chinese, very good luck.

145 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:41:34pm

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, what details do we know about our new stealth healthcare bill?

It's been available online for at least a week. They made changes about abortion last night but it's all available.

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:42:04pm

I'm having a gout attack.

147 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:42:32pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

The party of doom predicts doom...
Democrats Face Electoral Backlash After Health Care Vote, Top Republican Warns


Lol

Yeah, doing what upwards of 60% of the polity wants is an obvious Epic Fail.

148 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:42:33pm

re: #144 Guanxi88

He was very bad luck for my feeders. Oh well cycle of life. I had a few, they outgrow your tank and you have to sell them off.

149 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:00pm

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is that serious?

150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:04pm

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, what details do we know about our new stealth healthcare bill that we can share with the fat lazy guy who doesn't want to go hunting for details?

re: #145 Killgore Trout

I guess you're right.

I'll go find it.

151 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:08pm

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm having a gout attack.

If that's not an obscure fish term, I'm sorry.

152 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:19pm

re: #148 Rightwingconspirator

He was very bad luck for my feeders. Oh well cycle of life. I had a few, they outgrow your tank and you have to sell them off.

If you've got any good-sized Chinese community by you, let them know if it happens again. Very high status to have a tank with one of those in it.

153 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:35pm

re: #140 Guanxi88

Here's one of Medea Benjamin's arguments being presented to former Secretary of State Rice.

[Link: biglizards.net...]

I once walked right by that woman outside of Union Station. She looked just as nasty and angry in real life as she does in that picture.

154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:43:47pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Only for the person having the gout attack.

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:44:34pm

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Only for the person having the gout attack.

WHEN GOUT ATTACKS- Tonight on FOX

156 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not now, I have a haddock.

157 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:03pm

re: #152 Guanxi88

Thanks. But, I just sold my aquarium. These days I spend the time in my photography studio or trips. No more fish for me except on a plate anyway.

158 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:22pm

re: #58 HelloDare

Wonder if Obama will bring up Aung San Suu Kyi or would that harsh the mellow? Maybe Fox news should take political prisoners, then maybe the Obama administration would talk to them.

Meanwhile, Aung San Suu Kyi continues to be a perpetual prisoner on her own home, while few countries in the world show signs that they really give a shit about her treatment at the hands of the junta (other than the usual diplomatic doublespeak). She'll wind up dying in her home prison, but the junta won't kill her outright, because they know they'd be up shit creek if she dies under suspicious circumstances. I'm sure the junta prefers natural causes to take her out for them, because they know that the US (with the UN in tow) would have an actionable reason to go after the junta if Aung San Suu Kyi just ups and dies without conclusive proof that the junta didn't do her in (maybe I'm being optimistic here).

159 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:45:45pm

re: #156 PT Barnum

Not now, I have a haddock.

Quit trawling for sympathy.

160 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:46:47pm

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds painful, sorry to hear that. Toe?

161 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:02pm

re: #158 talon_262

Meanwhile, Aung San Suu Kyi continues to be a perpetual prisoner on her own home, while few countries in the world show signs that they really give a shit about her treatment at the hands of the junta (other than the usual diplomatic doublespeak). She'll wind up dying in her home prison, but the junta won't kill her outright, because they know they'd be up shit creek if she dies under suspicious circumstances. I'm sure the junta prefers natural causes to take her out for them, because they know that the US (with the UN in tow) would have an actionable reason to go after the junta if Aung San Suu Kyi just ups and dies without conclusive proof that the junta didn't do her in (maybe I'm being optimistic here).

Well, *not* talking to the junta has certainly worked wonders, hasn't it?

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:12pm

re: #159 Decatur Deb

Quit trawling for sympathy.

He's just trying to be the leader.

163 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:22pm

re: #147 austin_blue

Yeah, doing what upwards of 60% of the polity wants is an obvious Epic Fail.

I dunno - didn't seem like the House was all that enthusiastic about it, either. 220 out of 435

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:47:44pm

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Only for the person having the gout attack.

Guess, since I can't run it... I'll Limpet.

ZING! and I really am having a gout attack...

165 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:48:29pm

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've had gout...it's one of the least pleasant things I've ever gone through. Found the best way to prevent it was to go semi veg with no more than 3 oz of animal protein per day.

166 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:48:38pm

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guess, since I can't run it... I'll Limpet.

ZING! and I really am having a gout attack...

What is that? And do you need pie?

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:48:40pm

re: #160 Rightwingconspirator

Yep. looks like a sausage. 1.5 times the size of the other one. And the swelling has just started... It'll double by morning. But I have meds and don't have to go anywhere.

168 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:00pm

re: #161 austin_blue

Well, *not* talking to the junta has certainly worked wonders, hasn't it?

Admittedly, but at the very least, we've done nothing to provide them with any legitimacy. This, though... I dunno.

(hey, it's raining again! Woo-hoo!)

169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:04pm

re: #165 PT Barnum

Beer.

170 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:04pm

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guess, since I can't run it... I'll Limpet.

ZING! and I really am having a gout attack...

Better than a bad bladder.

(Sorry about the gout.)

171 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:05pm

re: #163 Guanxi88

I dunno - didn't seem like the House was all that enthusiastic about it, either. 220 out of 435

The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.

Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.

172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:27pm

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

I always need pie.

173 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:49:42pm

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wish, I really do have a splitting headache...happens when I forget to take one of my meds for more than a day or two...

174 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:00pm

re: #171 austin_blue

The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.

Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.

mmm. Sausage.

175 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:36pm

re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is Beer your cure or your affliction...I found the combo of large quantities of red meat and alcohol is a sure fire gout trigger.

176 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:45pm

re: #168 Guanxi88

Admittedly, but at the very least, we've done nothing to provide them with any legitimacy. This, though... I dunno.

(hey, it's raining again! Woo-hoo!)

Nice, innit? I've got the back door open just to listen to that lovely sound.

((patter patter patter))

177 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:46pm

re: #123 Guanxi88

Code Pink - medea benjamin and jodie evans, their founders, serve, along with many members of the CPC, on the Board of the Progressive Democrats of America. I'd say Code Pink was not quite the outsider one might think it to be. Hey! john Conyers is there, too. Is he a fringer?

Hillary Clinton has met with Code Pink several times. In her office, too. As radical as Code Pink is, they are hardly on the outside of the Democratic party.

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
178 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:50:52pm

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My bandleader has gout and arthritis. That's one of the reasons we're not gigging until December or later. It's kind of hard to play t he guitar when you can't bend your fingers all the way.

179 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:51:01pm

re: #174 Guanxi88

mmm. Sausage.

In a red sauce with angel hair pasta.

180 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:51:18pm

re: #171 austin_blue

The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.

Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.

A School for Scoundrels.

(Morph to pun thread.)

181 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:52:16pm

re: #178 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have arthritis on one of my knees..usually know the weather 3 or 4 days in advance. I'm trying to rent it to our local TV station, but they won't return my calls.

182 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:52:59pm

okay...back to bed to lie in the dark...

183 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:53:22pm

re: #176 austin_blue

Nice, innit? I've got the back door open just to listen to that lovely sound.

((patter patter patter))

Folk who haven't had to endure a drought with high humidity don't appreciate how beautiful even a little rain can be. When I was back East, i took the rain for granted, and even grumbled when it rained. Not now.

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:53:23pm

re: #181 PT Barnum

I have arthritis on one of my knees..usually know the weather 3 or 4 days in advance. I'm trying to rent it to our local TV station, but they won't return my calls.

If you had better looking knees they might put you on the air.
/

185 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:53:48pm

re: #181 PT Barnum

I have arthritis on one of my knees..usually know the weather 3 or 4 days in advance. I'm trying to rent it to our local TV station, but they won't return my calls.

Get a vacuous blonde to point to it.

186 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:54:06pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Get a vacuous blonde to point to it.

That improves anything, evidently.

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:54:49pm

re: #186 Guanxi88

That improves anything, evidently.

See FOX NEWS.
/kinda

188 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:54:59pm

Did somebody say "scoundrels"?

Youtube Video
189 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:55:25pm

re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar

See FOX NEWS.
/kinda

No, it's true. Ya gotta have the eye-candy to sell what you're selling.

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:56:50pm

re: #175 PT Barnum

The reason for the affliction I am sure. Gonna have to lay off the spirits for a few weeks.

191 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:57:23pm

re: #189 Guanxi88

No, it's true. Ya gotta have the eye-candy to sell what you're selling.

I have made comments about the girl that does traffic on my local CBS station in the morning. I understand. And I don't watch the news, I just know when she comes on.

192 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:58:07pm

re: #173 PT Barnum

I wish, I really do have a splitting headache...happens when I forget to take one of my meds for more than a day or two...

Blood pressure meds? I get the same thing and I'm on three different pills daily (ACE inhibiter, Calcium channel blocker, & a Beta blocker.)

193 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:58:10pm

re: #134 Guanxi88

So long as we stayed off politics, history, foreign policy, religion, diet, economics, poetry, literature, and any other topic, I imagine you'd be right.

"So, Medea ... What is your favorite color?"

/ "Doh!"

194 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:58:10pm

Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.

No, really.

195 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:59:44pm

re: #194 Guanxi88

Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.

No, really.

There's got to be room for space lizards in there.

196 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 12:59:48pm

re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have made comments about the girl that does traffic on my local CBS station in the morning. I understand. And I don't watch the news, I just know when she comes on.

I mean, who would you rather stare at on your TV - a paunchy middle-aged guy, balding and myopic, wheezing on and on about upper-level disturbances and front boundaries, or an easy on the eyes young lady telling you it might rain on Saturday?

197 Oh no...Sand People!  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:00:01pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Get a vacuous blonde to point to it.

THAT was funny.

198 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:00:13pm

re: #194 Guanxi88

Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.

No, really.

I got a family members email this morning with Prison Planet articles.

199 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:01:11pm

re: #195 Decatur Deb

There's got to be room for space lizards in there.

Funny thing is he and Icke have got this on-again-off-again feud. He thinks Icke is right in a limited way about the character of the ruling elite, but that he's got reservations about the whole reptilian shapeshifter angle. Icke, for his part, things AJ does a great job in preparing people to embrace a truth that Jones himself is not yet prepared to publicly acknowledge.

200 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:01:16pm

re: #196 Guanxi88

I mean, who would you rather stare at on your TV - a paunchy middle-aged guy, balding and myopic, wheezing on and on about upper-level disturbances and front boundaries, or an easy on the eyes young lady telling you it might rain on Saturday?

Depends on whether it rains on Saturday. (Taking us back to Steve
Martin and "LA Story".)

201 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:01:25pm

re: #177 HelloDare

Hillary Clinton has met with Code Pink several times. In her office, too. As radical as Code Pink is, they are hardly on the outside of the Democratic party.
[Video]

Meeting with people doesn't prove they have any influence. That's just guilt by association. If she'd worked on legislation with CP it might have been a different matter.

202 SteveC  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:02:27pm

re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got a family members email this morning with Prison Planet articles.

It could have been worse... I'm not sure how, exactly, but it could have been worse!

203 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:02:45pm

re: #140 Guanxi88

Here's one of Medea Benjamin's arguments being presented to former Secretary of State Rice.

[Link: biglizards.net...]

Well I can't understand why progressives didn't "google bomb" that pic for "cogent and erudite".

204 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:03:07pm

re: #183 Guanxi88

Folk who haven't had to endure a drought with high humidity don't appreciate how beautiful even a little rain can be. When I was back East, i took the rain for granted, and even grumbled when it rained. Not now.

No shit, my man! Every little bit helps.

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:03:16pm

re: #202 SteveC

It could have been worse... I'm not sure how, exactly, but it could have been worse!

Maybe if they hid the key to my booze cabinet!!
/

206 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:03:55pm

re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe if they hid the key to my booze cabinet!!
/

Pocket knife gets those things open with no problem.

207 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:04:13pm

Heads are exploding in Texas, a pro-gay group of churches is putting up billboards saying that Jesus did not discriminate and even condoned a gay couple.

Extreme outrage from Bill Donahue's Catholic League in 4...3...2...1...

Local news video segment.

208 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:04:57pm

re: #206 Guanxi88

Pocket knife gets those things open with no problem.

I have a 12 pound sledge hammer. But, whatever works.:)

209 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:05:43pm

re: #194 Guanxi88

Listening to Alex Jones on replay explaining the Beck is perverting the Tea Party movement, leading patriots away from 9-11 truth and the facts of the Illuminati conspiracy to enslave the few pitiful remnants of humanity not killed off by their poisoned vaccines and contaminated food and water.

No, really.

"Teh crazy is strong with this one..."

210 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:05:44pm

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a 12 pound sledge hammer. But, whatever works.:)

My wife is persnickety, and would certainly over-react to any blemish on the furnishings. So, no 12 lb sledges in the house.

211 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:06:31pm

There was a lawyer and he was just waking up from anesthesia after surgery, and his wife was sitting by his side.

His eyes fluttered open and he said, "You're beautiful!" and then he fell asleep again.

His wife had never heard him say that so she stayed by his side. A couple minutes later his eyes fluttered open and he said "You're cute!"

Well, the wife was dissapointed because instead of "beautiful" it was "cute."

She said "What happened to 'beautiful'?"

His reply was "The drugs are wearing off!"

212 Guanxi88  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:06:32pm

New thread!

213 SteveC  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:08:07pm

FWIW - Wal-Mart sold Halloween candy in a plastic container that looks like a mad scientist's beaker. (2 different beaker styles, but only one type of candy) It wasn't a best seller around here and the remnants are on sale for $1.00.

I got one as a lark, and it turns out that it is GOOD candy! If you see some and are a hard candy lover like me, you might want to buy one.

214 webevintage  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:08:11pm

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

KITTEN MITTONS! YOU'LL BE SMITTEN!

Youtube Video

BTW, I ended up making pizza for lunch.
Pizza and apple pie.
Yummm...

215 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:08:42pm

re: #210 Guanxi88

My wife is persnickety, and would certainly over-react to any blemish on the furnishings. So, no 12 lb sledges in the house.

Flexible Linear Shaped Charge?

216 SteveC  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:09:44pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

Flexible Linear Shaped Charge?

.38 bullet, inserted directly into the lock assembly.

//works in the movies!

217 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:10:33pm

I think I am going to start a new think tank.

It will be called "The Wackodrome Center For Public Policy".

In the Wackodrome opposing guests who strongly advocate what some choose to call extreme positions will have the opportunity to engage each other.

The terms of the engagement of views will be the same as that for The Ultimate Fighting Championship. The forum? A caged octogon.

The foundation will then raise money by broadcasting the engagements on pay-per-view.

First up : Medea Benjamin vs. Glenn Beck

218 Dar ul Harbarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:13:36pm

I was just thinking:

Three trillion dollars divided by two thousand pages comes out to 1.5 billion dollars per page.

Each page is kind of like a 1.5 billion dollar bill.

219 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:14:58pm

re: #218 Dar ul Harbarian

I was just thinking:

Three trillion dollars divided by two thousand pages comes out to 1.5 billion dollars per page.

Each page is kind of like a 1.5 billion dollar bill.

That would seem only half as bad if the bill were twice as large.

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:16:28pm

re: #214 webevintage

Two kinds of pie.

Two kinds of pie.

221 Bagua  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:17:48pm

re: #218 Dar ul Harbarian

I was just thinking:

Three trillion dollars divided by two thousand pages comes out to 1.5 billion dollars per page.

Each page is kind of like a 1.5 billion dollar bill.

The eventual cost will be much higher and escalate with each new "fix" and "reform".

The Fix will always be presented with happy sounded labels such as "providing affordable health care for American citizens".

222 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:18:53pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Two kinds of pie.

Two kinds of pie.

A local feedlot puts up a very tasty apple/cinnamon "pizza". I don't
know if that's widespread.

223 dugmartsch  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:19:41pm

re: #121 karmic_inquisitor

Well, nothing like dehumanizing those you oppose.

(That used to be a retort that progressives used, btw).

Are you going to talk about the tea partier's as rational reasonable people who have good policy solutions to pressing national issues? They're a fringe group run and powered by crazy people. And how am i dehumanizing them? Singling them out as crazy people necessitates that I recognize their humanity.

And its fine really. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk are very happy to use them to raise their national profile and the tea partier's are happy to delude themselves into thinking that they have some kind of power or national relevance. The exploitation is mutual, but all they have is rage. Reminds me of Degrees of Grey in Phillipsburg:

Only churches are kept up. The jail
turned 70 this year. The only prisoner
is always in, not knowing what he's done.

The principal supporting business now
is rage. Hatred of the various grays
the mountain sends, hatred of the mill,
The Silver Bill repeal, the best liked girls
who leave each year for Butte."

[Link: plagiarist.com...]

224 BethesdaDog  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:20:23pm

When I was a kid growing up in south Florida I used to fish the salt-water canals and bays.

The snook was a prized game fish. It was the smaller cousin to the tarpon, and had many of the same fighting qualities when hooked. It would leap and twist, interspersing with mad, frantic short runs around pilings and wherever it could to try to free itself from the hook.

I used to fish at night near a little bridge and we knew there was a snook there, since it would leap out of the water every night. One night I hooked it, and I was thrilled when I pulled it in. Often enough, a snook would free itself, so it was always a challenge to land one.

I was dismayed when I found it was under the 18" limit for keepers.

It was also said to be an excellent fish for eating but you could only taste it if you caught one yourself, since it was illegal to catch them for commercial purposes. You couldn't buy it at a seafood counter, and couldn't eat it in a restaurant.

I don't know if this snook is the same species, but it brings back memories.

Never caught a sea kitten, though.

225 HelloDare  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:20:32pm

re: #201 Conservative Moonbat

Meeting with people doesn't prove they have any influence. That's just guilt by association. If she'd worked on legislation with CP it might have been a different matter.

It gives credibility to these people. She could meet with them, talk with them in the halls of congress, but not in her office. Code Pink will use the fact that she met with them in that way to their advantage.

226 dugmartsch  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:23:48pm

re: #171 austin_blue

The Dems in the most tenuous districts got a pass from Pelosi to vote against it.

Politics. Sausage. You know the drill.

Pfft. That has Rahm's fingerprints all over it. The guy is slick. Like turning a no vote into a yes vote in NY-23, and allowing another seat to vote no that they've got a shot to win with a no vote in 2010.

And the Republican Answer is: Glenn Beck and 9/12. Not going to get the job done. I know there's a tendency to always read bumbling idiocy into all the moves of the minority party when they're in the minority but they are playing into that narrative pretty nicely.

227 BethesdaDog  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:25:18pm

Of course, after posting the earlier post, I find out that this fish has nothing to do with the gamefish "common snook" that was found in south Florida waters.

The Redbay Snook is a cichlid, a fish kept in aquariums in the U.S.

Oh well, it still brought back memories of that night I caught my snook.

228 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 8, 2009 1:30:05pm

re: #227 BethesdaDog

Of course, after posting the earlier post, I find out that this fish has nothing to do with the gamefish "common snook" that was found in south Florida waters.

The Redbay Snook is a cichlid, a fish kept in aquariums in the U.S.

Oh well, it still brought back memories of that night I caught my snook.

Are you trying to start another piscine contest?

229 BethesdaDog  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:41:40pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Are you trying to start another piscine contest?

230 BethesdaDog  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 1:43:44pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Are you trying to start another piscine contest?

No, just reminiscing at LGF's expense, at the days fishing under Florida's warm sun in its beautiful inland waters...

But clever though.


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