Neo-Nazi Sites Love Ron Paul

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The neo-Nazi sites are all lathered up about Ron Paul winning the CPAC straw poll.

And they’re not happy about LGF’s take on it. Not at all. Posted by one of the troglodytes at Stormfront today:

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Re: Ron Paul Wins CPAC Poll

There is a Jewish Supremacist hate site called “Little Green Footballs” and this kind of thing drives them crazy, because they PRETEND to be conservatives and when a real conservative and all-American man like Dr. Ron Paul wins so many conservative polls, they go crazy with whining.

Thesw LGF Jews are the most unpatriotic Israeli-first traitors the United States sees in the blogosphere. They are vile and disgusting rats. “Charles Johnson” is the shabbat goy that fronts this obvious Zionist hate site, and even if this “Charles Johnson” moron claims to be Christian, he could care less about Christianity in the Holy Land, which is getting wiped out by Zionists, and it fared far better under the Arabs before the Khazar (Ashkenazi) fakes came to the Middle East.
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363 comments
1 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:50:28pm

Nazis. To be hated by those scum is a mark of honor. I'm proud that LGF retains a robust Jewish presence as I am equally glad that Chicagoland does as well. Those fascists want a world that is grim, brutal and monotone. I prefer a world with different colors where people are treated decently.

2 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:51:38pm

So why do all the anti-Semites support RP anyway? Is it just because he happens to oppose all foreign and military aide to Israel? (along with every other country)

3 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:52:16pm

I'm not a Jew but I married one and it was the best decision I've ever made in my life. These neo-Nazi has-been pricks can go have carnal relations with themselves. Calling them a bunch of douchebags is an insult to douchebags.

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:52:40pm

Charles?

Wha'ssup my shabbat goy?

(Is that an insult?)

5 recusancy  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:53:11pm

re: #2 Conservative Moonbat

So why do all the anti-Semites support RP anyway? Is it just because he happens to oppose all foreign and military aide to Israel? (along with every other country)

I was just about to ask the same thing.

6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:53:43pm

Woo Hoo! USA wins! Defeat the Canadians!

7 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:53:49pm

Could you change my nick to "Shabbat Goy" please? I have no idea what it means but if they don't like it, it must be OK.

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:55:24pm

re: #2 Conservative Moonbat

They can recognize one of their own when they see 'em.

9 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:56:31pm

re: #7 Conservative Moonbat

Could you change my nick to "Shabbat Goy" please? I have no idea what it means but if they don't like it, it must be OK.

I think the moron douchenozzles at Stormfront meant Shabbos Goy but I'm not sure how that qualifies as an insult. To me, it would be a badge of honor.

10 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:56:35pm

re: #2 Conservative Moonbat

So why do all the anti-Semites support RP anyway? Is it just because he happens to oppose all foreign and military aide to Israel? (along with every other country)

That's part of it but it goes much deeper. Paul's vendetta against the Federal Reserve is not just an economic policy. It's fighting back against the Jewish bankers who secretly run things. Also the Paulians held a speech as CPAC this year discussing what an evil tyrant Lincoln was. People who didn't want to end slavery love that kind of stuff.

11 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:57:16pm

re: #7 Conservative Moonbat

Could you change my nick to "Shabbat Goy" please? I have no idea what it means but if they don't like it, it must be OK.

LGF: Hated by all the worst people!

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:57:47pm

re: #9 Jetpilot1101

I had just hit copy from the same article... glad I noticed before I put it in too.

13 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:59:22pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

That's part of it but it goes much deeper. Paul's vendetta against the Federal Reserve is not just an economic policy. It's fighting back against the Jewish bankers who secretly run things. Also the Paulians held a speech as CPAC this year discussing what an evil tyrant Lincoln was. People who didn't want to end slavery love that kind of stuff.

Oh, trying to expand their horizons, so to speak.
Bleeping bleeptards.

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:59:49pm

Thesw LGF Jews are the most unpatriotic Israeli-first traitors the United States sees in the blogosphere. They are vile and disgusting rats.

Mmmkay. To the douche who wrote this: Your boy has ZERO chance of winning. But you keep the false hope going, K?

15 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 6:59:54pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

I should have guessed Lincoln.

16 political lunatic  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:00:11pm

USA! USA! USA!

17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:00:14pm

re: #9 Jetpilot1101

did you notice this from the footnotes?

Former Secretary of State Gen. Colin Powell and Mario Cuomo, former governor of New York State, each a former Shabbos goy, both share fond recollections of their youth, when they were uniquely qualified to lend a Jewish neighbor a hand."

18 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:01:16pm

But, but, those people are the REAL PATRIOTS!!!
/need I?

19 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:01:37pm

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thesw LGF Jews are the most unpatriotic Israeli-first traitors the United States sees in the blogosphere. They are vile and disgusting rats.

Mmmkay. To the douche who wrote this: Your boy has ZERO chance of winning. But you keep the false hope going, K?

Ron Paul, one Republican this American would actively campaign against.

20 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:01:58pm
...a real conservative and all-American man like Dr. Ron Paul...


Chew on that, if you will.

21 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:02:00pm

This is just so weird. A year ago, the only evidence of Ron Paul I saw was a bunch of pizza-faced Cheech and Chong wannabes, climbing up and down billboards and defacing telephone poles by spraying ' Ron Paul! / Join the RP Revolution '.
Wonder what happened? I still don't know anyone who would vote for him.

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:02:54pm

re: #21 tradewind

Kind of like the "Love Boat!" No one would ever admit they ever watched it...

23 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:03:05pm

And I'd like to point out, again, that the dumb bigots are using the phrase 'shabbos goy' incorrectly.

24 Red Pencil  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:03:15pm

re: #7 Conservative Moonbat

Could you change my nick to "Shabbat Goy" please? I have no idea what it means but if they don't like it, it must be OK.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

A Shabbat goy, Shabbos goy or Shabbes goy (Yiddish: שבת גוי, shabbos goy Modern Hebrew: גוי של שבת goy shel shabat) is an individual who regularly assists a Jewish individual or organization by performing certain acts on the Biblical Sabbath which are forbidden to Jews within Jewish law. The phrase is a combination of the word "Shabbos" (שבת) meaning the Sabbath, and "Goy", which literally means "a nation" but practically means a "non-Jew"

Elvis Presley was a shabbos goy.

25 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:03:24pm

re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not at first, thanks for pointing it out.

26 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:03:28pm

Ron Paul needs help getting his message out!!! Donate to rentablimpforronpaul.govnetorgcom!!!

27 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:04:44pm

If you find yourself on the same side as Stormfront on any issue, it's time to check yourself.

28 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:04:51pm

re: #24 Red Pencil

Elvis Presley was a shabbos goy.

While a growing up in Tupelo?

29 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:05:16pm

re: #23 Obdicut

Dumb bigots

.... is there another kind?//

30 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:06:00pm

re: #20 The Shadow Do

Chew on that, if you will.

But later down that same forum, someone refers to "the traitor, Glenn Beck". So, a lot of these people are o u t t h e r e...

31 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:06:01pm

re: #29 tradewind

... is there another kind?//

LOUD, dumb bigots.

32 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:06:28pm

re: #30 The Sanity Inspector

But later down that same forum, someone refers to "the traitor, Glenn Beck". So, a lot of these people are o u t t h e r e...

boy howdy

33 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:06:47pm

the tea partiers were originally ron paul supporters. with the help of fox news, glen beck and the like, they added to their ranks and have moved into the mainstream. go figure.

34 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:06:56pm

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Woo Hoo! USA wins! Defeat the Canadians!

congrrrats

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:07:55pm

re: #34 Spare O'Lake

What's wrong, Extra Lough?

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:08:57pm

re: #33 zora

the tea partiers were originally ron paul supporters. with the help of fox news, glen beck and the like, they added to their ranks and have moved into the mainstream. go figure.

Actually, the original TPers were about the gubment and their spending. It morphed. Then some more. Add nuts. Here we are.

37 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:09:14pm

OT, but you gotta' see this:

You can’t resolve away climate change (Phil Plait)

The resolution in question is the handiwork of South Dakota state legislature.
Part 2 is an epic of legislative idiocy:

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED [...]
(2) That there are a variety of climatological, meteorological, astrological, thermological, cosmological, and ecological dynamics that can affect world weather phenomena and that the significance and interrelativity of these factors is largely speculative;

Yep, they really said "astrological"
If this kind of science can be further refined, you'll be able to combine the weather forecast with the daily horoscope.

It turns out that "interrelativity" really is a word though an exceedingly obscure one most often used in the context of social rather than physical sciences.

38 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:09:21pm

re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Charles?

Wha'ssup my shabbat goy?

(Is that an insult?)

Yiddush, please!

39 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:09:30pm

re: #28 Gang of One
He was born in Tupelo.
Don't ever try to say he grew up anywhere but Melvis.
:)

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:09:48pm

re: #28 Gang of One

While a growing up in Tupelo?

In Memphis, as a teenager.

41 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:10:00pm

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What's wrong, Extra Lough?

nuthin', I'm very happy for you

42 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:10:10pm

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel

OT, but you gotta' see this:

You can’t resolve away climate change (Phil Plait)

The resolution in question is the handiwork of South Dakota state legislature.
Part 2 is an epic of legislative idiocy:

Yep, they really said "astrological"
If this kind of science can be further refined, you'll be able to combine the weather forecast with the daily horoscope.

It turns out that "interrelativity" really is a word though an exceedingly obscure one most often used in the context of social rather than physical sciences.

LINK

43 Soap_Man  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:10:12pm

re: #34 Spare O'Lake

congrrrats

I fine effort from the Canadians, no doubt. Out shot our guys 45-22. But Miller was a brick wall this evening. I'm sure the U.S. and Canada will meet again before this whole thing is done...

44 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:10:16pm

re: #39 tradewind

He was born in Tupelo.
Don't ever try to say he grew up anywhere but Melvis.
:)

Oh. Thanks for setting me straight on that.

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:10:31pm

re: #41 Spare O'Lake

They just reported... the streets are very quiet...

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:10:52pm

{Spare}--it will be OK, really, it will.

47 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:11:00pm

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They just reported... the streets are very quiet...

But the bars are very full.:(

48 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:11:20pm

re: #36 Cannadian Club Akbar
I believe TEA party was an acronym for Taxed Enough Already.

49 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:11:29pm

Oh dear lord... I just read this bile.

Charles,

If you ever want to come for my place to Shabbos, you are so very welcome. I promise not to make you do the lights :)

I also promise really good chicken soup and brisket.

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:11:39pm

re: #47 Cannadian Club Akbar

But the bars are very full.:(

Suicide hot-lines are busy...

51 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:12:42pm

re: #44 Gang of One
Really doesn't make so much difference to me, but if you're ever in the area..... it could get ugly.
These folks put the fan in fanatics.

52 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:12:55pm

re: #41 Spare O'Lake

Aww, pats back. It's not over, yet.

53 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:12:55pm

re: #48 tradewind

I believe TEA party was an acronym for Taxed Enough Already.

Yes. I went to the first one locally. No kooks except one guy handing out fliers(infowars). After that, it went to hell.

54 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:13:06pm

re: #36 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, the original TPers were about the gubment and their spending. It morphed. Then some more. Add nuts. Here we are.

*cough* um *cough*

55 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:13:23pm

Nahtzee! Seriously, it's like a game now. The racist crazies pop up and associate themselves with the far right wing, we all find the associations and tally up the score, they bitch, cycle continues.

If only these weren't actual lunatics :(

56 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:13:47pm

re: #36 Cannadian Club Akbar

guess i should have been more specific. was referring to recent history.

The Tea Pauliers
[Link: www.fivethirtyeight.com...]

57 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:14:17pm

Also, for those Lizards who ever make it to my area, DF, OB, Ice, Jimmah, Cato, SFZ, Alouette and all the other really cool folks here that I love, I promise really good soup and brisket too.

The only down side is you have to put up with my singing :)

However, sufficient good wine will be consumed as to mitigate it.

58 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:14:31pm

re: #51 tradewind

Really doesn't make so much difference to me, but if you're ever in the area... it could get ugly.
These folks put the fan in fanatics.

I used to think he was born and raised in Scarsdale, NY.
//

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:14:43pm

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

Also, for those Lizards who ever make it to my area, DF, OB, Ice, Jimmah, Cato, SFZ, Alouette and all the other really cool folks here that I love, I promise really good soup and brisket too.

The only down side is you have to put up with my singing :)

However, sufficient good wine will be consumed as to mitigate it.

I'll take you up on that, Ludwig.

60 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:14:56pm

re: #49 LudwigVanQuixote

It's the ignorance that hurts. If he only posted Israel stories on Friday nights, maybe it'd make a little sense. As it is, it's just like 'hurr hurr we're using Yiddish hurr hurr'. What's that supposed to prove, that they really 'understand' Jewish culture?

Whatever it was, it failed to be anything other that stupid and hateful.

61 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:14:57pm

re: #55 WindUpBird

Nahtzee! Seriously, it's like a game now. The racist crazies pop up and associate themselves with the far right wing, we all find the associations and tally up the score, they bitch, cycle continues.

If only these weren't actual lunatics :(

It'll keep being fun till someone gets killed. After that, the very word 'conservative' will be tarnished by association with these whack-jobs.

62 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:15:06pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll take you up on that, Ludwig.

Your presence would be a blessing.

63 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:15:25pm

"Polymath" and the rest of his Stormfront brethern can just kiss my big white goy ass...

/f**king pieces of shit

64 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:15:39pm

Polymath has it wrong,

LGF is a Centrist Nerd Sweaty Neanderthal Humor Science Site.

So there.

65 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:15:40pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll take you up on that, Ludwig.

Now I'm hungry o_o

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:15:41pm

re: #54 Slumbering Behemoth

*cough* um *cough*

First one was April 15.

67 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:15:51pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

Nazis. To be hated by those scum is a mark of honor.

Amen to that.

re: #9 Jetpilot1101

I think the moron douchenozzles at Stormfront meant Shabbos Goy but I'm not sure how that qualifies as an insult.

Because it's someone who --gasp! -- helps a Jew. That's the worst possible thing anyone could ever do. *eyeroll*

Pfft. If these mental midgets hate LGF, who gives a damn? Fuck 'em. =P

68 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:16:19pm

re: #60 Obdicut

It's the ignorance that hurts. If he only posted Israel stories on Friday nights, maybe it'd make a little sense. As it is, it's just like 'hurr hurr we're using Yiddish hurr hurr'. What's that supposed to prove, that they really 'understand' Jewish culture?

Whatever it was, it failed to be anything other that stupid and hateful.

Ohh if I were to deconstruct all the nested smears in that, my head would explode.

I suppose I shall try to show my understanding of white trash culture for him sometime. But not tonight.

69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:16:31pm

Going to go and make myself not awake.

G'night knuckleheads.

70 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:16:48pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

{Spare}--it will be OK, really, it will.

thanks
71 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:17:11pm

Gotta roll guys. Be well.

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:17:34pm

re: #64 Ojoe

LGF is a Centrist Nerd Sweaty Neanderthal Humor Science Site.

Your comment here is both flattering and humbling, but honestly, LGF isn't just about me.
/

73 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:17:50pm

Isn't it telling that all the freaks seem to like Ron Paul?

74 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:18:06pm

re: #71 LudwigVanQuixote

Gotta roll guys. Be well.

Gutte woch, Wiggy.

75 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:18:06pm

re: #72 Slumbering Behemoth

Grunt.

76 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:18:15pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

It'll keep being fun till someone gets killed. After that, the very word 'conservative' will be tarnished by association with these whack-jobs.

Where's the new Buckley? AARRGH. I think these kooks sorta have to run their course, and then be shown to be demonstrably weak, maybe with a presidential run by Ron Paul that ends up in an Obama landslide, I dunno. I fear Romney won't have a prayer in the primary because of his faith. Right now they're ginned, up and the Republican party can't afford to lose them. THAT'S why they're allowed at CPAC, because they're worried about a schism and they need to hold on to them.

77 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:18:35pm

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

Also, for those Lizards who ever make it to my area, DF, OB, Ice, Jimmah, Cato, SFZ, Alouette and all the other really cool folks here that I love, I promise really good soup and brisket too.

The only down side is you have to put up with my singing :)

However, sufficient good wine will be consumed as to mitigate it.

I'm not only not shy...I sing Tom Petty with the windows down in the summer at full volume...And I could care less about who it bothers...

78 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:18:53pm

re: #60 Obdicut

It's the ignorance that hurts. If he only posted Israel stories on Friday nights, maybe it'd make a little sense. As it is, it's just like 'hurr hurr we're using Yiddish hurr hurr'. What's that supposed to prove, that they really 'understand' Jewish culture?

Whatever it was, it failed to be anything other that stupid and hateful.

Nazis like that have often tried to prove they understand Jewish culture in order to justify their charge that Jews are evil. They claim to be experts. Adolf Eichmann was a notable example of this phenomenon.

79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:19:05pm

re: #70 Spare O'Lake

Sorry, had to do this...

80 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:20:07pm

These Olympics (which I haven't been watching much) remind me of the first games I watched. The 1980 Winter Olympics, and I was ten years old. I watched as much as I could, and this was before cable tv (or before my family had it) and the internet.

I'm pretty sure I tried to stay up to watch the closing ceremonies, which were on pretty late for a ten year old. I was half asleep and I told my mother (who was well known then for making chopped liver and sculpting it into shapes for special occasions), "Mom, you should make chopped liver and shape it into the Olympic rings." Her response was something like, "Okay, you're going to bed!"

I emailed her tonight asking her if she was going to make an Olympic rings chopped liver.

81 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:20:08pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Going to go and make myself not awake.

G'night knuckleheads.

Yah. Valerian root, catnip, chamomile and melatonin starting to kick in.

82 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:20:25pm

in a completely legal and mutually agreed upon fight to the death, i would start beating this guy over the head with a beer bottle and never stop.

83 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:21:06pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

I'm not only not shy...I sing Tom Petty with the windows down in the summer at full volume...And I could care less about who it bothers...

It probably bothers only Tom Petty, but who cares.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:21:10pm

re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar

First one was April 15.

Would that be 2006, or 2007?

Sorry bro, the kooks started the movement. Certain "conservatives" have only been hopping on board since 2008.

85 Gang of One  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:21:33pm

re: #82 SpaceJesus

in a completely legal and mutually agreed upon fight to the death, i would start beating this guy over the head with a beer bottle and never stop.

Empty or full?

86 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:21:39pm

re: #65 WindUpBird

I know. Ludwig had to mention brisket, mmm.

87 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:22:01pm

re: #82 SpaceJesus

in a completely legal and mutually agreed upon fight to the death, i would start beating this guy over the head with a beer bottle and never stop.

SpaceJesus is not to be messed with.

88 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:22:28pm

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The original Merle Travis is better.

89 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:22:37pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

I'm not only not shy...I sing Tom Petty with the windows down in the summer at full volume...And I could care less about who it bothers...

I use to stand in the living room and "conduct" the whole score of "Phantom of the Opera" sometimes in my underwear.

90 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:23:13pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

The one I went to had 1 kook who made no noise. Just handed out fliers.

91 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:23:41pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

I'm not only not shy...I sing Tom Petty with the windows down in the summer at full volume...And I could care less about who it bothers...

Hoops! MY G-d! you would be welcome to do so :) So are a lot of others I love but forgot to mention. I really do have to go, but please you know who you are.

92 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:24:52pm

re: #88 Mad Al-Jaffee

Original Merle Travis version.

PIMF

93 Soap_Man  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:25:15pm

OT: Has anyone seen Inglourious Basterds? It came in the Netflix yesterday and I was going to pop it in the DVD player in a few...

94 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:25:48pm

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

I use to stand in the living room and "conduct" the whole score of "Phantom of the Opera" sometimes in my underwear.

People should not know this about you, Walter. Just sayin'

95 recusancy  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:26:01pm

re: #93 Soap_Man

OT: Has anyone seen Inglourious Basterds? It came in the Netflix yesterday and I was going to pop it in the DVD player in a few...

Friggin awesome. Could've had more nazi killing though.

96 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:26:07pm

re: #91 ludwigvanquixote

Hoops! MY G-d! you would be welcome to do so :) So are a lot of others I love but forgot to mention. I really do have to go, but please you know who you are.

Thanks much, Ludwig. Have a good night.

97 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:26:19pm

re: #93 Soap_Man

i liked it o.k. not as good as i expected.

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:26:20pm

re: #93 Soap_Man

OT: Has anyone seen Inglourious Basterds? It came in the Netflix yesterday and I was going to pop it in the DVD player in a few...

Didn't see it. But friends liked it. Tarantino likes violence, though.:)

99 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:26:26pm

re: #94 The Shadow Do

People should not know this about you, Walter. Just sayin'

And I give a fuck? :)

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:26:30pm

re: #82 SpaceJesus

in a completely legal and mutually agreed upon fight to the death, i would start beating this guy over the head with a beer bottle and never stop.

INTO THE OCTAGON

101 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:27:15pm

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

I use to stand in the living room and "conduct" the whole score of "Phantom of the Opera" sometimes in my underwear.

Hahah, I'd airguitar the solo to Queensryche's "NM156" :D

102 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:27:42pm

re: #76 WindUpBird

Where's the new Buckley? AARRGH. I think these kooks sorta have to run their course, and then be shown to be demonstrably weak, maybe with a presidential run by Ron Paul that ends up in an Obama landslide, I dunno. I fear Romney won't have a prayer in the primary because of his faith. Right now they're ginned, up and the Republican party can't afford to lose them. THAT'S why they're allowed at CPAC, because they're worried about a schism and they need to hold on to them.

Liberals' attitudes toward WFB ran from disdain to hatred, while he was alive. They should've appreciated him more while he was here.

103 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:27:46pm

re: #97 zora

i thought brad pitt was great. disclaimer: i always think brad pitt is great.

104 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:28:00pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

Hahah, I'd airguitar the solo to Queensryche's "NM156" :D

No shit?

105 Soap_Man  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:28:21pm

re: #95 recusancy

re: #97 zora

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thanks for the input. I'm going to make some pasta and (hopefully) enjoy it. But first, I'm going to come down from my U.S. hockey high.

Everyone have a safe and fun evening.

106 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:28:26pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

And I give a fuck? :)

aaaaa; :-p

107 The Curmudgeon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:29:09pm

When Stormfront comes to power, I hope they'll recognize that I registered here only to meet girls.

108 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:29:18pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

Hahah, I'd airguitar the solo to Queensryche's "NM156" :D

That's really neat. (Ok, when Windupbird is not looking, someone tell me what Queensryche's "NM156" is).

109 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:29:45pm

re: #93 Soap_Man

OT: Has anyone seen Inglourious Basterds? It came in the Netflix yesterday and I was going to pop it in the DVD player in a few...

LOVED that movie. Saw it three times in the theaters, and I downloaded it from iTunes on to my laptop. It's my favorite Tarantino film.

Also? The Bear Jew is awesome. We need more movies where Nazis get killed with baseball bats. Heh.

110 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:29:48pm

re: #107 The Curmudgeon

When Stormfront comes to power, I hope they'll recognize that I registered here only to meet girls.

How's that working out for you?

111 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:30:00pm

re: #83 Gang of One

It probably bothers only Tom Petty, but who cares.

You won't believe this..But because of the nuns I can actually sing in key..
all those little high school bands I was in..I did the singing.. Most people suck and can't stay on key...Plus I'm not shy in the least...I'll grab any mic at anytime any place.. I don't care..

112 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:30:10pm

re: #93 Soap_Man

OT: Has anyone seen Inglourious Basterds? It came in the Netflix yesterday and I was going to pop it in the DVD player in a few...

I'm still waiting until it's available from Netflix. So you're the one who's making it a "long wait"! Return it now!

113 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:30:47pm

re: #103 zora

i thought brad pitt was great. disclaimer: i always think brad pitt is great.

Just for you, then!

114 andres  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:30:59pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

Would that be 2006, or 2007?

Sorry bro, the kooks started the movement. Certain "conservatives" have only been hopping on board since 2008.

Interesting. I thought, too, that the Tea Parties were a more recent development.

115 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:31:00pm

Gonna go make a samich with the last of the roast beef I made today. I always get the early morning shifts.:) Nighty!

116 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:31:33pm

re: #102 The Sanity Inspector

Liberals' attitudes toward WFB ran from disdain to hatred, while he was alive. They should've appreciated him more while he was here.

You don't know what you got till its gone.

117 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:31:57pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

Hahah, I'd airguitar the solo to Queensryche's "NM156" :D

Oh wow. There's a reference. I haven't listened to those guys in years.

118 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:31:58pm

re: #113 The Sanity Inspector

that's what i'm talking about.

119 The Curmudgeon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:32:13pm

re: #110 Charles

How's that working out for you?

Uh, well, I have hopes.

120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:33:15pm

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

The one I went to had 1 kook who made no noise. Just handed out fliers.

When I was a teen, I went to a house party once where no one was drinking or using drugs, and there was no underage sex going on.

121 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:33:35pm

re: #111 HoosierHoops

You won't believe this..But because of the nuns I can actually sing in key..
all those little high school bands I was in..I did the singing.. Most people suck and can't stay on key...Plus I'm not shy in the least...I'll grab any mic at anytime any place.. I don't care..

Would you come and let that rub off on my kids? It's all I can do to keep them from mumbling into their armpits when their on the spot.

122 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:34:19pm

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

When I was a teen, I went to a house party once where no one was drinking or using drugs, and there was no underage sex going on.

Church lock-ins don't count as house parties. =P

123 andres  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:34:50pm

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

The one I went to had 1 kook who made no noise. Just handed out fliers.

Quite probably true. The 2006 is from a very specific locale, while the 2007 one was more underground. The more mainstream Tea Parties quite probably surged from these, but weren't connected to them.

124 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:35:16pm

re: #27 Charles

If you find yourself on the same side as Stormfront on any issue, it's time to check yourself.

Charles, you are no Shabbos Goy. In my book you have a yiddishe neshamah, a Jewish soul.

125 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:35:22pm

re: #85 Gang of One

Empty or full?

full. full of the fermented blood of dead nazis.

126 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:35:55pm

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

I use to stand in the living room and "conduct" the whole score of "Phantom of the Opera" sometimes in my underwear.

"How the Phantom of the Opera got into my underwear, I'll never know."

127 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:36:13pm

re: #101 WindUpBird
Maybe, but did you ever slide down the banister in your boxers, leap to the sofa, and air guitar ' Old Time Rock 'n Roll '?
That would impress.

128 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:36:15pm

re: #124 Spare O'Lake

Charles, you are no Shabbos Goy. In my book you have a yiddishe neshamah, a Jewish soul.

Charles is a "righteous Gentile", you know...

129 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:37:58pm

re: #128 talon_262

Charles is a "righteous Gentile", you know...

Someday someone may plant a tree...

130 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:38:11pm

re: #121 The Sanity Inspector

Would you come and let that rub off on my kids? It's all I can do to keep them from mumbling into their armpits when their on the spot.

LOL
Maybe that is for the best..I have always been out spoken and my big mouth always got me in trouble as a kid...
*wink*

131 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:39:31pm

re: #125 SpaceJesus

full. full of the fermented blood of dead nazis.

Mr. Tarantino, is that you?

132 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:40:22pm

Late supper... be back in a while... maybe.

133 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:41:00pm

Re: Tea Parties...
Who is Eric Odom?

134 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:42:16pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Mr. Tarantino, is that you?

nahtzees

135 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:43:02pm

Oy, I hang out here and I PRETEND to be a conservative do I? Evidently, not very well. This atheist (and rabidly anti-theist) liberal is anything but conservative.

136 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:43:18pm

re: #134 SpaceJesus

nahtzees

Please excuse my error, Mr. Pitt.

137 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:43:23pm

Ron Paul has no future as a leader of anything worth leading.

138 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:43:25pm

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones truther site "Prison Planet" again. Headline "Citigroup Warns Customers It May Refuse To Allow Withdrawals "

139 BaseballMom57  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:43:34pm

re: #103 zora

Even with that horrible goatee thing he's got going on?

140 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:43:35pm

I love when the girls in curling yell at each other and the bomb thing. Especially when they are from a different country.

141 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:44:04pm

OT: Arizona man accused of "honor killing" daughter won't face the death penalty. Why? Because it would look bigoted to do so:

The decision not to seek the death penalty comes after Almaleki's attorney, Billy Little, a public defender, asked a judge to take special precautions to ensure the County Attorney's Office wouldn't wrongly seek the death penalty because Almaleki is a Muslim.

Little requested that the office make public the process it uses to determine whether to seek capital punishment.

"An open process provides some level of assurance that there is no appearance that a Christian is seeking to execute a Muslim for racial, political, religious or cultural beliefs," Little wrote, referring to County Attorney Andrew Thomas' Christian faith.

Laura Reckart, a county prosecutor, responded that Little's concern about the "supposed bias" of the office's death-penalty-review process was "without legitimate factual or legal basis."

She wrote that the state can seek the death penalty for any person convicted of first-degree murder if it can prove the existence of at least one aggravating factor, not because of religion.

However, the debate stopped there. On Tuesday, Reckart filed a motion indicating prosecutors would not seek the death penalty.

142 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:44:37pm

re: #124 Spare O'Lake

Charles, you are no Shabbos Goy. In my book you have a yiddishe neshamah, a Jewish soul.

I agree wholeheartedly.

143 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:45:20pm

re: #139 [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

that goatee and a smile is really all he needs.

144 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:46:33pm

re: #141 The Sanity Inspector

OT: Arizona man accused of "honor killing" daughter won't face the death penalty. Why? Because it would look bigoted to do so:

Absurdity

145 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:46:43pm

Other current Prison Planet headlines....
Report: Bush Lawyer Said President Could Order Civilians to Be ‘Massacred’


Rep. Ron Paul surprise winner of CPAC presidential straw poll


Joe Stack’s Family Doubt Suicide Note Was Written By Him

The Nazis’ Murder of Jews, Communists and Gypsies In Gas Chambers Was an AMERICAN Idea
...etc

146 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:46:59pm
147 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:48:02pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

and....
Alex Jones TV World Exclusive – Source: FBI Knew Austin Attack Was Coming!!

148 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:49:08pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

and...
Alex Jones TV World Exclusive – Source: FBI Knew Austin Attack Was Coming!!

Ron Paul wins the CPAC straw poll..What more do you need to know?
unbelievable

149 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:49:34pm

re: #135 Olsonist

Oy, I hang out here and I PRETEND to be a conservative do I? Evidently, not very well. This atheist (and rabidly anti-theist) liberal is anything but conservative.

Your Majesty seems more yourself.
Do I?
Yes, I do.
Yeah, I've always been myself, even when I was ill.
Only now I seem myself.
And that's the important thing.
I have remembered how to seem.
-- dialog, The Madness of King George

150 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:49:37pm

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones truther site "Prison Planet" again.

The fact that anyone takes Alex Jones seriously, to the point where they'll link to him or talk to him or cite him as a source of anything irks me to no end. The guy is a bugfuck crazy, paranoid loon.

151 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:50:02pm

re: #146 Olsonist

Well, he is a Member of Congress; so he's got the elected part down. It is just a straw poll but it shows he has a mainstream Republican following. I'd prefer the Reps found a hole in the desert outside of Vegas for him and Palin and ... I'll even dig it. But so far these people are unfortunately defining the party.

[dislosure: not a Republican, real or otherwise]

It was argued today (George Will?) that the voters at CPAC were largely the young and the dumb. I don't know if that is true, but there it is.

As for the desert burial thing, I suggest you rethink that one.

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:51:42pm

re: #150 Lidane

The fact that anyone takes Alex Jones seriously, to the point where they'll link to him or talk to him or cite him as a source of anything irks me to no end. The guy is a bugfuck crazy, paranoid loon.

Agreed. I also have the same reaction to those who do the same with the JBS.

153 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:52:14pm

re: #151 The Shadow Do

i guess young and dumb must be his code words for "ron paul" supporters.

154 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:52:41pm

re: #153 zora

i guess young and dumb must be his code words for "ron paul" supporters.

Just so

155 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:53:10pm

re: #148 HoosierHoops
You may need to know that the winner of the straw poll is destined not to become the nominee, as even the NYT noted today.

156 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:54:34pm
157 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:54:57pm

re: #148 HoosierHoops

Ron Paul wins the CPAC straw poll..What more do you need to know?
unbelievable

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones. It is possible that that Drudge (or Breitart) suddenly decided that Alex Jones needs to be mainstreamed. Limbaugh has linked to him recently too. Birch society at CPAC and nobody complains? Could everyone have possibly gone insane independently at the same time? Is somebody paying Drudge and Limbaugh to link to Alex Jones articles?
I'd really love to know what's really going on. There's just no good explanation for it.

158 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:55:49pm

re: #146 Olsonist

Are you serious about the dig a desert grave for Paul and Palin bit?

159 freetoken  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:55:50pm

The following is one reason why there will be a continuing, large pool of people wanting to believe anything:

Millions of Unemployed Face Years Without Jobs

Even as the American economy shows tentative signs of a rebound, the human toll of the recession continues to mount, with millions of Americans remaining out of work, out of savings and nearing the end of their unemployment benefits.

Economists fear that the nascent recovery will leave more people behind than in past recessions, failing to create jobs in sufficient numbers to absorb the record-setting ranks of the long-term unemployed.

Call them the new poor: people long accustomed to the comforts of middle-class life who are now relying on public assistance for the first time in their lives — potentially for years to come.

Yet the social safety net is already showing severe strains. [...]

The loss of belief in a positive economic future will feed the need to blame someone. The question is... who will be the scapegoat?

160 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:56:46pm

Mike Huckabee rips CPAC

[Link: www.politico.com...]

162 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:57:53pm

re: #146 Olsonist


Report button in 5...4..3...

163 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:58:23pm

re: #159 freetoken

Looks like a lot of people want 'the Jews' to be blamed again.

164 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:58:47pm

re: #146 Olsonist

It is just a straw poll but it shows he has a mainstream Republican following


No, it really doesn't. It's like saying that Keith Ellison has a mainstream Democrat following because he is a representative from MN.

165 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 7:59:23pm

Bode won a gold Metal? Good Lord it is the end of the world...

166 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:00:09pm

re: #24 Red Pencil

Elvis Presley was a shabbos goy.

Colin Powell was too.

167 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:00:24pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

That's a good point. It's coming from so many different angles. It could be just that anyone who doesn't go along gets savaged. But it seems weirder than that.

168 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:00:50pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones. It is possible that that Drudge (or Breitart) suddenly decided that Alex Jones needs to be mainstreamed. Limbaugh has linked to him recently too. Birch society at CPAC and nobody complains? Could everyone have possibly gone insane independently at the same time? Is somebody paying Drudge and Limbaugh to link to Alex Jones articles?
I'd really love to know what's really going on. There's just no good explanation for it.

could financing and support be coming directly from the GOP?...is that a stupid question?

169 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:01:07pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones


The left and Democrats would love for everyone to believe that they're just typical Republicans.
They're ginning that up as hard and as they can.
Didn't work for them in MA, probably won't work for them anywhere else.

170 mikhailtheplumber  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:01:23pm

It's interesting how white supremacists can't think of people who would act different than they do.
Not a white supremacist? Why, then you must be a jewish supremacists, a black supremacist, or a gay supremacist.
*Sigh*
Particularly ironic is this Stormfront nazi calling this a "hate" site. Almost makes me want to giggle.

171 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:01:58pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones. It is possible that that Drudge (or Breitart) suddenly decided that Alex Jones needs to be mainstreamed. Limbaugh has linked to him recently too. Birch society at CPAC and nobody complains? Could everyone have possibly gone insane independently at the same time? Is somebody paying Drudge and Limbaugh to link to Alex Jones articles?
I'd really love to know what's really going on. There's just no good explanation for it.

Drudge of course is the starting point for most wingnut blogs today and has been linking to Prison Planet for months now. Breitbart is a part of Drudge and he was at CPAC. Also at CPAC was Andrew Napolitano who had Alex Jones as a guest and referred to him as "the great Alex Jones."

172 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:02:08pm

Note to Drudge and Alex Jones: Bogus stories trying to cause panic runs on banks in an unstable economy is very unpatriotic and probably very illegal.

173 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:02:18pm

re: #170 mikhailtheplumber

It's interesting how white supremacists can't think of people who would act different than they do.
Not a white supremacist? Why, then you must be a jewish supremacists, a black supremacist, or a gay supremacist.
*Sigh*
Particularly ironic is this Stormfront nazi calling this a "hate" site. Almost makes me want to giggle.

We are a hate site. We hate asshats and douchbags.

174 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:02:33pm

re: #172 Killgore Trout

Note to Drudge and Alex Jones: Bogus stories trying to cause panic runs on banks in an unstable economy is very unpatriotic and probably very illegal.

What'd they do?

175 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:02:38pm

re: #159 freetoken

The following is one reason why there will be a continuing, large pool of people wanting to believe anything:

Millions of Unemployed Face Years Without Jobs

The loss of belief in a positive economic future will feed the need to blame someone. The question is... who will be the scapegoat?

The progressives, I hope.

176 freetoken  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:03:12pm

re: #172 Killgore Trout

Note to Drudge and Alex Jones: Bogus stories trying to cause panic runs on banks in an unstable economy is very unpatriotic and probably very illegal.

However, it is good for gold sales. Look to the gold dealers, who work all the crowds you've mentioned.

177 mikhailtheplumber  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:03:28pm

re: #173 Alouette

Point taken.

178 freetoken  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:03:34pm

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

The progressives, I hope.

You and... Glenn Beck.

179 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:04:06pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones. It is possible that that Drudge (or Breitart) suddenly decided that Alex Jones needs to be mainstreamed. Limbaugh has linked to him recently too. Birch society at CPAC and nobody complains? Could everyone have possibly gone insane independently at the same time? Is somebody paying Drudge and Limbaugh to link to Alex Jones articles?
I'd really love to know what's really going on. There's just no good explanation for it.

Maybe Jones and the JBS are really becoming that popular, and Rush and Drudge are just responding to the buzz. Hopefully, it'll be a "flavor of the month" type flash, and they will sink back into obscurity.

180 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:04:08pm

re: #172 Killgore Trout
Why, if they don't watch out, they could be facing long prison terms.

181 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:04:16pm

re: #174 Varek Raith

They're running a story claiming that citibank is going to prevent people from withdrawing their money. It's the kind of thing that causes panic because when people hear those rumors they all try to get their money out at the same time.

182 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:04:57pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

They're running a story claiming that citibank is going to prevent people from withdrawing their money. It's the kind of thing that causes panic because when people hear those rumors they all try to get their money out at the same time.

Sigh, that is monumentally stupid...
Illegal, perhaps?

183 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:04:58pm

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

The progressives, I hope.

I read that this morning and was actually depressed..I don't really need a job to pay bills etc, but the thought of years of grief for people, young people trying to move forward, just hit me pretty hard

184 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:05:00pm

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

The progressives, I hope.

Probably evenly distributed among productive workers. Anyone on the Government teat may have more job security.

Things look grim now as commercial paper is tight, that means there is expectation of a wave of commercial defaults.

185 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:05:37pm

re: #182 Varek Raith

I'm pretty sure it's illegal if the story is bogus or misrepresented.

186 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:06:54pm

re: #158 The Shadow Do

Are you serious about the dig a desert grave for Paul and Palin bit?

I was saying that if the Republicans want to get rid of Paul and Palin .... It is colorful writing. That is all.

187 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:06:55pm

re: #178 freetoken

You and... Glenn Beck.

I don't know about Beck... don't listen to him, don't pay attention to him and don't care about him... my statement was not connected to anyone but myself.

188 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:07:54pm

re: #186 Olsonist

I was saying that if the Republicans want to get rid of Paul and Palin ... It is colorful writing. That is all.

Then you will help to dig the grave, etc.
I get it.

189 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:08:03pm

re: #178 freetoken

You and... Glenn Beck.

Why should Walter be blamed?

190 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:08:41pm

re: #187 Walter L. Newton

I don't know about Beck... don't listen to him, don't pay attention to him and don't care about him... my statement was not connected to anyone but myself.

he put's on quite a show...the CPAC gig was my first real exposure to him....but he didn't get into any hot button kook stuff...pure Hollywood

191 freetoken  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:08:57pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Why should Walter be blamed?

It was just an observation, that Walter and Glenn Beck want to blame the same people - "progressives".

192 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:10:15pm

re: #188 The Shadow Do

Colorful writing. No apologies for colorful writing.

Sorry but my browser is crashing. Happens with Firefox and Chrome.

193 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:10:29pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure it's illegal if the story is bogus or misrepresented.

It is misrepresented in both Drudge headline and the Prison Planet version. The actual article is at Business Insider and while they posted an update neither Drudge or Prison Planet have posted an update. The update reads:

Update: Citibank has now released the following statement by way of explanation: "When Citibank moved to unlimited FDIC coverage in 2009, we had to reclassify many checking accounts to allow for immediate withdrawals in order to ensure all customers qualified for the additional coverage. When we moved back to standard FDIC coverage with most major banks in 2010, Citibank decided to reclassify those accounts back to make them eligible again for promotional incentives. To do so, Federal Reserve Reg D requires these accounts, called NOW accounts, to reserve the right to require a 7-day notice of withdrawal. We recently communicated this technical requirement to our customers. However, we have never exercised this right and have no plans to do so in the future."

As you know, the average human doesn't read beyond the headline and rarely do they go as far as to check for updates.

194 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:10:55pm

re: #159 freetoken

The loss of belief in a positive economic future will feed the need to blame someone. The question is... who will be the scapegoat?

There doesn't have to be a scapegoat if Americans are told the truth and are prepared to accept it - "we have met the enemy, and it is us".

195 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:10:59pm

re: #191 freetoken

It was just an observation, that Walter and Glenn Beck want to blame the same people - "progressives".

Damn straight I do, but trying to lump me in with Beck is dishonest. Sort of like making Hitler metaphors, isn't it?

196 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:11:08pm

re: #191 freetoken

It was just an observation, that Walter and Glenn Beck want to blame the same people - "progressives".

What is Walter and Idi Amin had both used the word 'pony', would that also be noteworthy as an "observation"?

197 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:11:29pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

They're running a story claiming that citibank is going to prevent people from withdrawing their money. It's the kind of thing that causes panic because when people hear those rumors they all try to get their money out at the same time.


Newt Gingrich has an article in Investors Business Daily, claiming that the feds are laying the advance groundwork to force people to transfer their 401(k) and pension funds into Treasury bonds, to pay for the deficit.

198 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:11:59pm

pimf: what if

199 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:12:11pm

re: #191 freetoken

It was just an observation, that Walter and Glenn Beck want to blame the same people - "progressives".

I blame BO and his congress...the Stimulus was stunning stupidity, and donks didn't have the guts to stand against it, after all the woopla of the BO campaign nonsense an election....the blind leading the blind

200 Randall Gross  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:12:20pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones. It is possible that that Drudge (or Breitart) suddenly decided that Alex Jones needs to be mainstreamed. Limbaugh has linked to him recently too. Birch society at CPAC and nobody complains? Could everyone have possibly gone insane independently at the same time? Is somebody paying Drudge and Limbaugh to link to Alex Jones articles?
I'd really love to know what's really going on. There's just no good explanation for it.

I don't think it's any of them, they are just the errand boys. It's one or more of the big money figures on the far right.

201 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:13:30pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Ah, thanks.

202 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:14:12pm

re: #197 The Sanity Inspector

Newt Gingrich has an article in Investors Business Daily, claiming that the feds are laying the advance groundwork to force people to transfer their 401(k) and pension funds into Treasury bonds, to pay for the deficit.

they are...it's been floating around for months now...after all that's gone down, I see no reason to disbelieve it, or question if something like would pass through congress

203 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:14:35pm

re: #192 Olsonist

Colorful writing. No apologies for colorful writing.

Sorry but my browser is crashing. Happens with Firefox and Chrome.

If you want to bury the Republican Party then your metaphor is just fine. If you want to dig a hole outside Vegas and put the bodies of Paul and Paline there, then you have made a colorful statement indeed.

204 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:14:51pm

re: #3 Jetpilot1101

I'm not a Jew but I married one and it was the best decision I've ever made in my life. These neo-Nazi has-been pricks can go have carnal relations with themselves. Calling them a bunch of douchebags is an insult to douchebags.

These pro-Hitler cretins should be encouraged to inbreed as much as possible to save themselves from all the colors of the rainbow. Maybe given them their own city-like compound so they know where to find one another for their carnal needs.

Not only is it an insult to douch bags, it's also a grave insult to troglodytes.

205 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:14:54pm

re: #199 albusteve

I blame BO and his congress...the Stimulus was stunning stupidity, and donks didn't have the guts to stand against it, after all the woopla of the BO campaign nonsense an election...the blind leading the blind

You would be correct in blaming or crediting the Democrats. No Republicans voted for it in the House and only the Senate, though many having crowing about the money back in their districts. We call that hypocrisy.

206 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:15:00pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Ah, thanks.

YW. As you can see it would have applied only to NOW accounts and in the end they don't plan on applying this requirement. Another chicken little news headline flushed down the toilet.

207 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:15:16pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

I would really love to know who is behind the mainstreaming of the Birch Society and Alex Jones. It is possible that that Drudge (or Breitart) suddenly decided that Alex Jones needs to be mainstreamed. Limbaugh has linked to him recently too. Birch society at CPAC and nobody complains? Could everyone have possibly gone insane independently at the same time? Is somebody paying Drudge and Limbaugh to link to Alex Jones articles?
I'd really love to know what's really going on. There's just no good explanation for it.

It's not unlike if Maoists started posting on Huffpo and being entertained by serious Democratic poobahs.

208 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:15:24pm

re: #193 Gus 802
Thanks, I was about to say.
A headline is not a story.

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:15:40pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Nazis like that have often tried to prove they understand Jewish culture in order to justify their charge that Jews are evil. They claim to be experts. Adolf Eichmann was a notable example of this phenomenon.

I'm thinking of a specific name of an 'expert' on Islam now, but now that you've mentioned Eichmann, one is reluctant to Godwin.

210 mikhailtheplumber  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:16:09pm

re: #207 Conservative Moonbat

I think deranged, conspiratorial Stalinists would be an even better simile.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:16:10pm

re: #81 Gang of One

Yah. Valerian root, catnip, chamomile and melatonin starting to kick in.

If you wake up, let us know what the dreams were like!

212 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:16:41pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm thinking of a specific name of an 'expert' on Islam now, but now that you've mentioned Eichmann, one is reluctant to Godwin.

Am I wrong to do so?

213 Kruk  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:16:44pm

re: #109 Lidane

LOVED that movie. Saw it three times in the theaters, and I downloaded it from iTunes on to my laptop. It's my favorite Tarantino film.

Also? The Bear Jew is awesome. We need more movies where Nazis get killed with baseball bats. Heh.

Heh. I was kind of disappointed he was such a big guy, though. After that whole build up, I was kind of expecting someone short and skinny to come out.

214 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:16:46pm

re: #205 Olsonist

You would be correct in blaming or crediting the Democrats. No Republicans voted for it in the House and only the Senate, though many having crowing about the money back in their districts. We call that hypocrisy.

there are always hypocrits...that means little overall

215 Randall Gross  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:16:55pm

re: #193 Gus 802

As you know, the average human doesn't read beyond the headline and rarely do they go as far as to check for updates.

This is the equivalent of the Shrieking harpy running with Hal Turner's batshit crazy skew of a Bloomberg story last year. (The Chinese are going to take your house through emminent domain...)

As we approach tax time expect more of this lunacy, their job is to whip up economic paranoia as we head into the election.

216 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:17:01pm

re: #164 tradewind

No, it really doesn't. It's like saying that Keith Ellison has a mainstream Democrat following because he is a representative from MN.

Unless Keith Ellison wins a straw poll at the Kos convention, no, it doesn't.

217 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:17:13pm

re: #207 Conservative Moonbat
Like that could ever happen.//

218 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:18:12pm

re: #81 Gang of One
Damn. Should someone call the Poison center?//

219 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:20:00pm

re: #216 Olsonist
It's 2400 fringies.
Please check the track record of the CPAC straw poll winner as nominee for the RNC.

220 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:20:11pm

re: #214 albusteve

there are always hypocrits...that means little overall

Everybody is a hypocrite these days, everyone a liar, it's a wonder we all get along.

221 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:21:02pm

Well, at least we won't die from boredom, y'all... 'Night.

222 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:21:19pm

the stimulus didn't work except for when it did.

from meet the press

GREGORY: what about the stimulus program? do you think it worked?

GOV. PAWLENTY: well, the definition of the stimulus program is we'll take a dollar from you in the private sector, bring it to government, spin it around, take 5% to 20% for overhead and redeploy it in the economy and call it growth. economists call it transfer effects. we need to grow the private economy. the stimulus bill was outsourced to the united states congress. it came back in an incoherent fashion. we could have gotten more bang for the buck for less money if they would have focused on things that would target growing small businesses and jobs. for example, cutting the payroll tax. it was largely a waste of money that's sustaining government at a time we need to shrink government.

GREGORY: do you think it worked?

GOV. PAWLENTY: as measured by the administration's own goals and objectives, no.

GREGORY: what about 12,000 jobs created in your state?

GOV. PAWLENTY: they are mostly government jobs.

GREGORY: you didn't need those?

GOV. PAWLENTY: we appreciate every job, but the idea that government grow it is economy when all they do is extract money from taxpayers, put it back on a political agenda is not growth. that's transferring money.

GREGORY: would the economy have been in worse shape without the stimulus?

GOV. PAWLENTY: well, they said if they didn't pass the stimulus bill unemployment could go as high as 8%. it went to 10%. they promised four million jobs created or saved. you know the math is fuzzy. everybody agrees. they have failed on that objective as well. the economy and government is going to need to focus on growing the private sector. what the stimulus bill mostly did is sustain government.

GREGORY: but you don't disagree with economists including an economist who advised the mccain campaign which you vouched for and could have been on the ticket of, indeed, there is somewhere around two million jobs that have been created by the stimulus. it could have been worse without it.

this hypocrisy is what the republicans are going to have to deal with. they voted against the stimulus. took credit for the jobs and projects and still want to bitch and moan.

223 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:21:26pm

re: #220 Bagua

Everybody is a hypocrite these days, everyone a liar, it's a wonder we all get along.

What are you talking about... I don't get along with anyone.

224 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:21:27pm

re: #215 Thanos

This is the equivalent of the Shrieking harpy running with Hal Turner's batshit crazy skew of a Bloomberg story last year. (The Chinese are going to take your house through emminent domain...)

As we approach tax time expect more of this lunacy, their job is to whip up economic paranoia as we head into the election.

another good job...I've been following your blog pretty regularly

225 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:21:32pm

re: #215 Thanos
It's the 24-hour news/talk/blog cycle. It must be fed, and when the emphasis is on that much quantity rather than quality, you're gonna get some junk in the diet.

226 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:21:59pm

Some Wanda Jackson for all of the hard heads here.

227 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:14pm

re: #220 Bagua

Everybody is a hypocrite these days, everyone a liar, it's a wonder we all get along.

"It's a wonder we can even feed ourselves."

228 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:15pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

What are you talking about... I don't get along with anyone.

Yes, you do, you jerk!
:)

229 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:20pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

What are you talking about... I don't get along with anyone.

And on that note, I'm going to bed. I have an interesting story to tell you tomorrow, about work.

230 captdiggs  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:22pm

I can see why they like crazy uncle Ron....they're as bat-shit crazy as he is.

231 Kruk  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:29pm

re: #170 mikhailtheplumber


Particularly ironic is this Stormfront nazi calling this a "hate" site. Almost makes me want to giggle.

Heh. You should quote them what Jesus said about motes and beams, but I doubt they'd believe it. Jesus was just another Jew, after all.

//

232 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:34pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

What are you talking about... I don't get along with anyone.

You actually get along pretty well with most of us.

233 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:51pm

re: #141 The Sanity Inspector

OT: Arizona man accused of "honor killing" daughter won't face the death penalty. Why? Because it would look bigoted to do so:

They wouldn't be executing him for being a Muslim. They would be executing him for first-degree murder. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!!!!

234 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:22:55pm

re: #197 The Sanity Inspector

Newt Gingrich has an article in Investors Business Daily, claiming that the feds are laying the advance groundwork to force people to transfer their 401(k) and pension funds into Treasury bonds, to pay for the deficit.

Here's a pretty straight news story on what's behind that opinion piece:


U. S. wants workers to invest in annuities
The Obama administration is weighing how the government can encourage workers to turn their savings into guaranteed income streams following a collapse in retiree accounts when the stock market plunged. The U. S. Treasury and Labor departments will ask for public comment as soon as this week on ways to promote the conversion of 401(k) savings and Individual Retirement Accounts into annuities or other steady payment streams, according to Assistant Labor Secretary Phyllis C. Borzi and Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary Mark Iwry, who are spearheading the effort.


[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

235 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:23:00pm

re: #220 Bagua

Everybody is a hypocrite these days, everyone a liar, it's a wonder we all get along.

it's because deep down, we all love the Rolling Stones...the common thread that holds us all together

236 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:23:22pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

You actually get along pretty well with most of us.

And to those I don't, I still want to give them a big moist kiss on the cheeks. I'm funny that way.

237 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:23:27pm

re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist

They wouldn't be executing him for being a Muslim. They would be executing him for first-degree murder. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!!

Sez you and I, in the land of the sane.

238 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:23:30pm

re: #213 Kruk

Heh. I was kind of disappointed he was such a big guy, though. After that whole build up, I was kind of expecting someone short and skinny to come out.

He was a big, bulky Jewish guy beating a skinny, pale Nazi to death with a Louisville Slugger. Not only was it awesome, but it turned the whole idea of Jews cowering in the presence of the Nazis upside down.

I think that's why I like the movie so much. It's the perfect revenge fantasy, really.

239 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:23:50pm

re: #197 The Sanity Inspector

Newt Gingrich has an article in Investors Business Daily, claiming that the feds are laying the advance groundwork to force people to transfer their 401(k) and pension funds into Treasury bonds, to pay for the deficit.

I'm curious to see if there's a web page for this:

BusinessWeek reports that the Treasury and Labor departments are asking for public comment on "the conversion of 401(k) savings and Individual Retirement Accounts into annuities or other steady payment streams."

If this is true then it does allow for public comment so now would be the time to speak up.

240 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:23:51pm

re: #219 tradewind

George Allen was still quite viable in 2006.

241 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:25:12pm

re: #234 jaunte

[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

Ah, so that article says they will be asking for public comment while the Gingrich piece says that they're asking for public comment (according to Businessweek).

242 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:25:12pm

re: #93 Soap_Man

OT: Has anyone seen Inglourious Basterds? It came in the Netflix yesterday and I was going to pop it in the DVD player in a few...

It has about five minutes of Quentin Tarantino trademark violence and two hours of random people in cafes, chit-chatting in French and German and playing very lame parlor games.

I was very disappointed.

243 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:25:18pm

re: #238 Lidane

He was a big, bulky Jewish guy beating a skinny, pale Nazi to death with a Louisville Slugger. Not only was it awesome, but it turned the whole idea of Jews cowering in the presence of the Nazis upside down.

I think that's why I like the movie so much. It's the perfect revenge fantasy, really.

okay movie, but not award winning imo

244 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:25:40pm

re: #238 Lidane

He was a big, bulky Jewish guy beating a skinny, pale Nazi to death with a Louisville Slugger. Not only was it awesome, but it turned the whole idea of Jews cowering in the presence of the Nazis upside down.

I think that's why I like the movie so much. It's the perfect revenge fantasy, really.

The movie was fucking lame.

245 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:25:52pm

re: #241 Gus 802

It is dated Jan 11.

246 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:25:54pm

re: #243 albusteve

okay movie, but not award winning imo

Except for the guy who played Col. Landa. He totally deserves every award they've thrown at him so far.

247 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:26:00pm

re: #223 Walter L. Newton

What are you talking about... I don't get along with anyone.



Can we all just get along, can we stop making it horrible for the older people and... and the kids?

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:26:14pm

re: #156 mikeysdca

As an LGF Hindu, I find this "LGF Jews" noise offensive.

They had a SatireWire article once about Judaism and Hinduism combining to form a 'superreligion' to counter Islam.

The upshot was that you end up with 900,000,000 people who can never make their mothers happy no matter how many times they reincarnate.

249 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:26:18pm

re: #245 jaunte

It is dated Jan 11.

Oh, that explains it. Let me search.

250 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:26:54pm

re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist

They had a SatireWire article once about Judaism and Hinduism combining to form a 'superreligion' to counter Islam.

The upshot was that you end up with 900,000,000 people who can never make their mothers happy no matter how many times they reincarnate.

Heh!

251 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:27:00pm

re: #244 Alouette

I'm an unabashed Tarantino fangirl. I'm biased.

I went in expecting to like it, and I did.

252 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:27:43pm

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

The progressives, I hope.

Great.

253 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:27:49pm

re: #246 Lidane

Except for the guy who played Col. Landa. He totally deserves every award they've thrown at him so far.

who plays the new James Bond?...he did a Polish? resistance move...very good piece of acting imo...worth consideration

254 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:27:59pm

re: #251 Lidane

I'm an unabashed Tarantino fangirl. I'm biased.

I went in expecting to like it, and I did.

I was expecting to see a bunch of Quentin Tarantino violence, and was disappointed by all the lame chit-chat.

255 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:29:02pm

re: #196 Bagua

What is Walter and Idi Amin had both used the word 'pony', would that also be noteworthy as an "observation"?

Probably not, unless they had both suggested that the economy was the fault of ponies.

256 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:30:01pm

re: #245 jaunte

It is dated Jan 11.

I think this is it:

News Release

Release Date: February 2, 2010
Release Number: 09-1571-NAT
Contact Name: Gloria Della or Joseph De Wolk

U.S. Labor Department seeks public comments on lifetime income options for retirement plans

Washington – The U.S. Departments of Labor and the Treasury today announced the publication of a request for information (RFI) soliciting public comments to assist the agencies in determining what steps to take to enhance retirement security for workers in employer-sponsored retirement plans through lifetime annuities or other arrangements that provide a stream of income after retiring. The RFI appears in today’s edition of the Federal Register.

“Today’s initiative is particularly important given the shift from defined benefit plans that offer employees lifetime annuities to 401(k) and other defined contribution plans that typically distribute retirement savings in a lump sum payment,” said Phyllis C. Borzi, assistant secretary for the Labor Department’s Employee Benefits Security Administration.

(continues)

257 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:30:22pm
258 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:30:30pm

re: #254 Alouette

I was expecting to see a bunch of Quentin Tarantino violence, and was disappointed by all the lame chit-chat.

that was the highlight of the whole movie....it ends in your bloodbath, you just had to be patient

259 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:30:44pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton
Don't forget, you have reading to do before bed, Walter. Oh....and there'll be a quiz. You can run, but you can't hide.... Temperatures, readings, and stats, oh my!
:)

260 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:30:47pm

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

Am I wrong to do so?

No, no, I just don't want to be accused of saying that Robert Spencer is like Eichmann.

/Eichmann was better looking! He was a better dresser! And a better painter!

261 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:30:47pm

re: #230 captdiggs

I can see why they like crazy uncle Ron...they're as bat-shit crazy as he is.

You know, I strongly disagree with Ron Paul on many issues but I can't really label him as crazy. Maybe the Nazi wannabes like him because of his "less govt" stance that necessarily includes elimination of foreign aid to countries, including Israel. I don't know, but the man is anything but stupid.

262 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:31:02pm

re: #255 SanFranciscoZionist

Probably not, unless they had both suggested that the economy was the fault of ponies.

I blame the pony play.

263 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:31:26pm

re: #238 Lidane

I think that's why I like the movie so much. It's the perfect revenge fantasy, really.

You just reminded me of one of my favorite true stories of all time:

Kashmir girl fights off militants

"Without saying anything they [the militants] started beating my parents and my uncle. They beat them so badly that my parents fell on the ground. I could not see that and pounced on one of the militants while my brother hit him with an axe," she said.

"I thought I should try the bold act of encountering militants before dying."

Ms Kauser said she grabbed one of the militants by the hair and banged his head against the wall. When he fell down she hit him with an axe, before snatching his rifle.

"I had never touched a rifle before this, let alone fired one. But I had seen heroes firing in films on TV and I tried the same way. Somehow I gathered courage - I fired and fought till dead tired."

264 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:31:32pm

re: #216 Olsonist

Unless Keith Ellison wins a straw poll at the Kos convention, no, it doesn't.

Now that would be kind of fun. Isn't Ellison the guy who caused the flap by being sworn in on Jefferson's Koran?

265 mikhailtheplumber  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:32:05pm

re: #246 Lidane

Except for the guy who played Col. Landa. He totally deserves every award they've thrown at him so far.

That would be Christoph Waltz. Incredible actor, extremely funny, speaks four languages fluidly. Quite the find.

Can't wait to see more of him.

266 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:32:09pm

re: #253 albusteve

who plays the new James Bond?...he did a Polish? resistance move...very good piece of acting imo...worth consideration

His name is Daniel Craig.

267 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:32:24pm

re: #261 eclectic infidel

You know, I strongly disagree with Ron Paul on many issues but I can't really label him as crazy. Maybe the Nazi wannabes like him because of his "less govt" stance that necessarily includes elimination of foreign aid to countries, including Israel. I don't know, but the man is anything but stupid.

I agree...he takes more of a beating here than he deserves, imo...and so do a few others

268 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:33:20pm

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that would be kind of fun. Isn't Ellison the guy who caused the flap by being sworn in on Jefferson's Koran?

I'd be sworn in on this:

Peace is a lie; there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.


;)

269 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:33:27pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

His name is Daniel Craig.

pretty good actor...I don't see very many movies tho

270 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:34:14pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

His name is Daniel Craig.

His name is Daniel Craig and he is hotttt. "Layer Cake" is a pretty good gangster movie he is in.

271 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:34:18pm

re: #262 jaunte

I blame the pony play.

No, no, that stimulates the economy. All those special harness bits.

272 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:34:25pm

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

Ellison is actually a closet Rastifarian.

273 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:34:32pm

re: #260 SanFranciscoZionist

No, no, I just don't want to be accused of saying that Robert Spencer is like Eichmann.

/Eichmann was better looking! He was a better dresser! And a better painter!

Heh. I take your point. My clarification would be the Spencer shares Eichmanns desire to present himself as an expert, but does not share Eichmann's desire to exterminate those he considers "undesirable", preferring deportation instead (though that would a bloody event as well).

274 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:34:58pm

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that would be kind of fun. Isn't Ellison the guy who caused the flap by being sworn in on Jefferson's Koran?

Yup. I honestly didn't see what the fuss was about. It did make me wonder what would happen if an atheist decided that he or she didn't want to swear on a Bible, but on a copy of the Constitution. Would conservative Christians scream bloody murder too?

275 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:35:01pm

re: #255 SanFranciscoZionist

Probably not, unless they had both suggested that the economy was the fault of ponies.

What if they both thought the economy was so bad they couldn't afford a pony?

How far do we go with this guilt by association thing?

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:35:31pm

re: #272 Olsonist

Ellison is actually a closet Rastifarian.

One trembles to ask what a Rastifarian being sworn in would choose to swear on.

277 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:35:46pm

re: #270 prairiefire

His name is Daniel Craig and he is hottt. "Layer Cake" is a pretty good gangster movie he is in.

gangster movies are my all time favorite...I'll look for it, thanks

278 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:35:46pm

re: #274 eclectic infidel

Yup. I honestly didn't see what the fuss was about. It did make me wonder what would happen if an atheist decided that he or she didn't want to swear on a Bible, but on a copy of the Constitution. Would conservative Christians scream bloody murder too?

That is exactly what I'd use in place of any religious book.

279 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:36:07pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

Heh. I take your point. My clarification would be the Spencer shares Eichmanns desire to present himself as an expert, but does not share Eichmann's desire to exterminate those he considers "undesirable", preferring deportation instead (though that would a bloody event as well).

Oh, fair enough. I'll give him that.

280 Randall Gross  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:36:48pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

One trembles to ask what a Rastifarian being sworn in would choose to swear on.

A picture of Haile?

281 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:13pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

One trembles to ask what a Rastifarian being sworn in would choose to swear on.


RasClot!

282 albusteve  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:17pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

One trembles to ask what a Rastifarian being sworn in would choose to swear on.

a sheaf of Zig Zags, naturally

283 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:18pm

re: #272 Olsonist
MN should be so lucky.

284 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:25pm

re: #274 eclectic infidel

Yup. I honestly didn't see what the fuss was about. It did make me wonder what would happen if an atheist decided that he or she didn't want to swear on a Bible, but on a copy of the Constitution. Would conservative Christians scream bloody murder too?

Well, there were several levels. There were the people who thought he shouldn't be sworn in on a Koran at all. Then there were the people who thought he wasn't going to consider himself really sworn in on the Koran because it was in English.

285 Gus  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:47pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

One trembles to ask what a Rastifarian being sworn in would choose to swear on.

According to Wiki you could probably choose from:

Bible
Kebra Nagast
The Promise Key
Holy Piby
My Life and Ethiopia's Progress
Royal Parchment Scroll of Black Supremacy

286 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:57pm

Did anybody see the Russian ice dancing team? I was cringing in embarrassment. WTF did they think they were doing, dancing in "indigenous" bodysuits with fake leaves and dangling vines?

Because they thought "Russian folk dances" were lame and wanted to do something unique. ZOMFG.

287 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:37:59pm

re: #254 Alouette

The chit-chat is what sets the stage for the violence.

Also, parts of that chit-chat are very chilling, like when Col. Landa is sitting next to Shosanna in the cafe eating strudel. I kept waiting for him to tell her that he knew exactly who she was. Her nerves were palpable, I thought.

Ah well. Movies are such an individual thing. I liked it, and you didn't. That's cool. :)

288 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:38:04pm

re: #274 eclectic infidel

Yup. I honestly didn't see what the fuss was about. It did make me wonder what would happen if an atheist decided that he or she didn't want to swear on a Bible, but on a copy of the Constitution. Would conservative Christians scream bloody murder too?

Undoubtedly. You're supposed to put your hand on a copy of the KJV, held by your wife, and swear the oath. That is the way it is supposed to be.

//

289 Lidane  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:38:47pm

re: #265 mikhailtheplumber

That would be Christoph Waltz. Incredible actor, extremely funny, speaks four languages fluidly. Quite the find.

Can't wait to see more of him.

Oh, same here. I thought he was fantastic.

290 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:40:03pm

re: #284 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, there were several levels. There were the people who thought he shouldn't be sworn in on a Koran at all. Then there were the people who thought he wasn't going to consider himself really sworn in on the Koran because it was in English.

I understand those nuances, but isn't the swearing in on a holy book a tradition that is ceremonial for the most part?

291 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:40:51pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

One trembles to ask what a Rastifarian being sworn in would choose to swear on.

A stack of Bob Marley CDs?

292 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:41:25pm

re: #287 Lidane

The chit-chat is what sets the stage for the violence.

Also, parts of that chit-chat are very chilling, like when Col. Landa is sitting next to Shosanna in the cafe eating strudel. I kept waiting for him to tell her that he knew exactly who she was. Her nerves were palpable, I thought.

Ah well. Movies are such an individual thing. I liked it, and you didn't. That's cool. :)

The stupid parlor game with the stickers between the eyes just went on and on and on.

293 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:41:41pm

re: #290 eclectic infidel

I understand those nuances, but isn't the swearing in on a holy book a tradition that is ceremonial for the most part?

Yes. As my mother said, in response to all of this, "So if the oath isn't valid, do they think he's not really going to serve as a member of Congress? I mean really, you show up, you vote on stuff, you sit on a couple of committees, you're doing it."

294 tradewind  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:42:04pm

Sleep tight, ya'll.
See you next weekend.... in the meantime, someone propose a rule: No inter-thread/cross-thread pursuit without a warrant.

295 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:42:26pm

re: #287 Lidane

BTW I agree that Christophe Waltz is a great actor, so is the French actress who played Shoshanna.

296 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:44:58pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

His name is Daniel Craig.

aka Bond, James Bond

297 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:44:59pm

Speaking of movies, I just watched For Your Consideration today. I didn't laugh once - it was 100 times more obnoxious than Zoolander, but it did eviscerate Hollywood from top to bottom.

I hope I used that word correctly (eviscerate).

298 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:46:07pm

re: #297 eclectic infidel

Speaking of movies, I just watched For Your Consideration today. I didn't laugh once - it was 100 times more obnoxious than Zoolander, but it did eviscerate Hollywood from top to bottom.

I hope I used that word correctly (eviscerate).

Yeah, but you paid to see a movie made by Hollywood eviscerate Hollywood.

299 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:46:10pm

re: #263 publicityStunted

That's such a great story. Thank you.

300 prairiefire  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:46:12pm

re: #295 Alouette

BTW I agree that Christophe Waltz is a great actor, so is the French actress who played Shoshanna.

Agreed, also the British guy who passed for a Nazi officer. He just landed a role in a new film. On that vague note, night, lizards.

301 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:50:34pm

re: #298 Olsonist

Yeah, but you paid to see a movie made by Hollywood eviscerate Hollywood.

Netflix - much cheaper than the cinema.

Thing is though, I was hoping for a laugh-out-loud movie. For Your Consideration was directed by Christopher Guest who also directed Best in Show, A Mighty Wind, and Waiting for Guffman, movies that I really liked. That said, as usual, Parker Posey gave an excellent performance.

302 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:52:54pm

re: #301 eclectic infidel

Hollywood loves to make movies about Hollywood. Dunno if you ever saw The Big Picture.

303 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:54:34pm

re: #301 eclectic infidel

Netflix - much cheaper than the cinema.

Avatar must be seen on the big screen, preferable IMAX.

304 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:55:10pm

re: #302 Olsonist

Hollywood loves to make movies about Hollywood. Dunno if you ever saw The Big Picture.

Sunset Boulevard is one of the first, and best, Hollywood movies about Hollywood.

305 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:55:19pm

Night!

306 Randall Gross  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:56:15pm

Time for me to get some sleeps as well, night all.

307 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:56:50pm

re: #302 Olsonist

Hollywood loves to make movies about Hollywood. Dunno if you ever saw The Big Picture.

Nope. I'll add it to the list. Thanks.

308 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:57:01pm

re: #304 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of the best opening scenes ever.

309 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 8:59:33pm

Your friendly neighborhood Bagua has completed an important mission to entertain the friends here.

1. Attend Government Mule. Wow!

2. Purchase CD

3. Rip

4. Upload to temporary server under fair use.

5. Post for all to enjoy!

Down on the Brazos


- Government Mule - 2010 Texas Tour - Hangin' on by a thread.
310 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:00:10pm

re: #307 eclectic infidel

Also The Player.

311 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:01:25pm

re: #309 Bagua

Your friendly neighborhood Bagua has completed an important mission to entertain the friends here.

1. Attend Government Mule. Wow!

2. Purchase CD

3. Rip

4. Upload to temporary server under fair use.

5. Post for all to enjoy!

Down on the Brazos

[Video]
- Government Mule - 2010 Texas Tour - Hangin' on by a thread.

What's Government Mule?

312 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:02:28pm

re: #261 eclectic infidel

nazi's like him because of he is a bigot.

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

the list goes on. check the internets.

313 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:03:04pm

re: #308 jaunte

One of the best opening scenes ever.

And the end, "I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille."

314 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:03:26pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

What's Government Mule?

Gov't Mule. But when you say it it's Government Mule. Listen and love.

315 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:04:48pm

It's lizard bedtime for me too.

316 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:05:37pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

the holy piby

317 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:05:43pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon
More Gov't info:


Gov't Mule (pronounced Government Mule) is a rock band formed in 1994 as an Allman Brothers Band side project.
...
When the Allman Brothers were not forthcoming with any new material, Haynes and Woody left to concentrate full-time on Gov't Mule in 1997. Dose, their second studio effort, was released in early 1998. They were joined by members of the Allman Brothers, the Black Crowes, and Parliament/Funkadelic for their 1998 New Year's Eve concert.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

318 zora  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:10:49pm

goodnight, lizards

319 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:11:42pm

re: #317 jaunte

More Gov't info:


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Time continues, Warren started up with the Allmans again in 2000 and re-joined the next year. They had a platinum record in 2004. Warren was named the 23rd Greatest Guitarist of All Times by Rolling Stone, and area in which they do have expertise.

320 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:13:29pm
321 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:14:13pm

re: #317 jaunte

re: #319 Bagua

Thanks.

322 Locker  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:17:12pm

I'm sure it's not to late to say "Fuck those Nazi limp dicks". Personally, if they don't like something it's probably the right way to go.

323 Flavia  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:27:08pm

re: #24 Red Pencil

Elvis Presley was a shabbos goy.

Weirdly enough, he was Jewish - & didn't know it.

[Link: www.aish.com...]

But, I didn't know that Charles was Jewish!
Hey, Charles, do you have any sons?
Because I have this daughter....

Less unseriously, I am authorized to offer you a prime
position in the ZOG as a race traitor:

[Link: www.internationaljewishconspiracy.com...]

sincerely,

Cmmr [censored]
DC Mideast Liaison
ZOG Band Wardrobe Mistress

324 Silvergirl  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:33:22pm

Though I am not Irish or Italian by birth, I am honorary Irish and Italian, thanks to friends who bestowed it. And now, I have never been more proud to be a Lizard after seeing that piece of mail featured above. I'm hanging around now in hopes of being adopted by the Jews.

325 jaunte  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:38:45pm

Goodnight all.
40,000 Headmen

326 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:39:38pm

re: #324 Silvergirl

Though I am not Irish or Italian by birth, I am honorary Irish and Italian, thanks to friends who bestowed it. And now, I have never been more proud to be a Lizard after seeing that piece of mail featured above. I'm hanging around now in hopes of being adopted by the Jews.

You are officially adopted.

327 Silvergirl  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:42:25pm

re: #326 Bagua

You are officially adopted.

Thank you! If we ever meet, I shall kiss you!

328 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:44:25pm

re: #327 Silvergirl

Thank you! If we ever meet, I shall kiss you!

That sounds nice Silvergirl.

329 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:49:56pm

A little tune for neo nazi scum

330 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 9:50:18pm

Another Major Taliban Operative Captured

That makes more in a week than were bagged under Bush's enter presidency.

331 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:01:14pm

re: #330 Conservative Moonbat

Another Major Taliban Operative Captured

That makes more in a week than were bagged under Bush's enter presidency.

Great news. If nothing else, they are getting a well deserved beat down.

332 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:05:45pm

re: #330 Conservative Moonbat

Another Major Taliban Operative Captured

That makes more in a week than were bagged under Bush's entire presidency.

This is a surge capture, of the same type as occurred in Iraq during the surge there. It is a vindication of Gen. Petraeus' strategies, not a condemnation of the Bush administration.

333 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:09:50pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

This is a surge capture, of the same type as occurred in Iraq during the surge there. It is a vindication of Gen. Petraeus' strategies, not a condemnation of the Bush administration.

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

This is a surge capture, of the same type as occurred in Iraq during the surge there. It is a vindication of Gen. Petraeus' strategies, not a condemnation of the Bush administration.

Agreed. Just as in Iraq, the Afghan war has morphed and changed over the years. Things were quite quiet until Iraq was won and no longer a good front line for the terrorists. The emphasis is now Afghanistan which just so happens to be on a different watch. No fault to Obama, whoever won the election was going to see the battle intensify.

334 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:12:54pm

re: #312 zora

nazi's like him because of he is a bigot.

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

the list goes on. check the internets.

Thanks for the memory jog.. I do remember Charles posting about this. So much stuff to remember. I WANT MORE LONG-TERM MEMORY! :)

335 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:15:57pm

re: #333 Bagua

Agreed. Just as in Iraq, the Afghan war has morphed and changed over the years. Things were quite quiet until Iraq was won and no longer a good front line for the terrorists. The emphasis is now Afghanistan which just so happens to be on a different watch. No fault to Obama, whoever won the election was going to see the battle intensify.

Quite Concur.

336 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:16:20pm

re: #333 Bagua

Agreed. Just as in Iraq, the Afghan war has morphed and changed over the years. Things were quite quiet until Iraq was won and no longer a good front line for the terrorists. The emphasis is now Afghanistan which just so happens to be on a different watch. No fault to Obama, whoever won the election was going to see the battle intensify.

Yeah but why weren't these people captured in 2002? Why have a bunch of nobodies been sitting in Gitmo all these years when these guys were out there running around? It makes it look like Bush/Cheney didn't give a rat's ass about Afghanistan and just wanted to move on to Iraq ASAP.

337 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:18:30pm

re: #324 Silvergirl

Though I am not Irish or Italian by birth, I am honorary Irish and Italian, thanks to friends who bestowed it. And now, I have never been more proud to be a Lizard after seeing that piece of mail featured above. I'm hanging around now in hopes of being adopted by the Jews.

My Jewish friends who are also pro-Israel activists (as am I) have duly made me an honorary Jew. I consider it an honor.

I think it also helps that I spent several hours one afternoon helping a friend construct the Sukkot in his backyard.

338 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:18:43pm

re: #336 Conservative Moonbat

Yeah but why weren't these people captured in 2002? Why have a bunch of nobodies been sitting in Gitmo all these years when these guys were out there running around? It makes it look like Bush/Cheney didn't give a rat's ass about Afghanistan and just wanted to move on to Iraq ASAP.

Many of them were not important 8 years ago. This has been a long conflict and is in a new stage.

The people in Gitmo are not "nobodies", the unimportant ones have bee released or transferred. Those left are the hard core terrorists.

339 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:22:29pm

re: #338 Bagua

Many of them were not important 8 years ago. This has been a long conflict and is in a new stage.

The people in Gitmo are not "nobodies", the unimportant ones have bee released or transferred. Those left are the hard core terrorists.

Again Concur. Moreover, Pakistan did not take the task of uprooting the Taliban seriously until last year. And it was only after the Taliban made a run on Islamabad in violation of a peace deal that Pakistan acted in earnest. These captures were in Pakistan and would not have happened in 2002 regardless. Pakistan could be told how grave the danger was, they had to experience it to believe.

340 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:27:05pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Again Concur. Moreover, Pakistan did not take the task of uprooting the Taliban seriously until last year. And it was only after the Taliban made a run on Islamabad in violation of a peace deal that Pakistan acted in earnest. These captures were in Pakistan and would not have happened in 2002 regardless. Pakistan could be told how grave the danger was, they had to experience it to believe.

Quite right.

341 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:29:54pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Again Concur. Moreover, Pakistan did not take the task of uprooting the Taliban seriously until last year. And it was only after the Taliban made a run on Islamabad in violation of a peace deal that Pakistan acted in earnest. These captures were in Pakistan and would not have happened in 2002 regardless. Pakistan could be told how grave the danger was, they had to experience it to believe.

You're right on the Paki coordination aspect but you won't get me to back down on saying that much more could have been done in Afghanistan if it wasn't for the pointless Iraq invasion. We owe the Brits a hell of a lot right now just for holding the line until we could be bothered to fight the people who had something to do with 9/11.

342 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:33:47pm

re: #341 Conservative Moonbat

Until the situation in Iraq settled down, Afghanistan seemed relatively stable. We'd already done most what we came to do, so refocusing on Iraq seemed prudent at the time. That was the reading of the situation at the time, and it was not a bad one, given what we thought was true. And after we were in Iraq, it assumed greater importance simply because Iraq is a more important country than Afghanistan.

343 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:40:09pm

re: #336 Conservative Moonbat

With OBL in their sights, with the Battle of Tora Bora raging in December 2001, we got sidetracked. Arguably, Bush and Cheney didn't care about Afghanistan and were already pre-occupied with Iraq.

344 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:41:38pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

Until the situation in Iraq settled down, Afghanistan seemed relatively stable. We'd already done most what we came to do, so refocusing on Iraq seemed prudent at the time. That was the reading of the situation at the time, and it was not a bad one, given what we thought was true. And after we were in Iraq, it assumed greater importance simply because Iraq is a more important country than Afghanistan.

No. We hadn't. We hadn't at all.

345 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:42:05pm

re: #341 Conservative Moonbat

You're right on the Paki coordination aspect but you won't get me to back down on saying that much more could have been done in Afghanistan if it wasn't for the pointless Iraq invasion. We owe the Brits a hell of a lot right now just for holding the line until we could be bothered to fight the people who had something to do with 9/11.

What exactly would you have done differently? Especially considering it was pretty quiet until recently? Other than go into Pakistan there was nothing much to do.

As far as Iraq, saying it was "pointless" is way in left field.

346 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:44:27pm

Saying Iraq was pointless is being generous.

347 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:44:55pm

re: #343 Olsonist

With OBL in their sights, with the Battle of Tora Bora raging in December 2001, we got sidetracked. Arguably, Bush and Cheney didn't care about Afghanistan and were already pre-occupied with Iraq.

Ho-hum... this sort of thing has been chewed over so many countless times.

348 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:45:36pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

Until the situation in Iraq settled down, Afghanistan seemed relatively stable. We'd already done most what we came to do, so refocusing on Iraq seemed prudent at the time. That was the reading of the situation at the time, and it was not a bad one, given what we thought was true. And after we were in Iraq, it assumed greater importance simply because Iraq is a more important country than Afghanistan.

We should never have gone into Iraq in the first place. Iraq was never more important because Iraq wasn't responsible for the deaths of thousands of US civilians.

It's too late to debate the entire legitimacy of the Iraq War. Raincheck?

349 Silvergirl  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:46:19pm

re: #347 Bagua

Ho-hum... this sort of thing has been chewed over so many countless times.

And not always so late at night.

I think pointless is going to have to be in the eye of the beholder.

350 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:48:47pm

re: #348 Conservative Moonbat

We should never have gone into Iraq in the first place. Iraq was never more important because Iraq wasn't responsible for the deaths of thousands of US civilians.

It's too late to debate the entire legitimacy of the Iraq War. Raincheck?

Raincheck is agreed to by me. It really is too late for that debate.

351 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:50:18pm

re: #348 Conservative Moonbat

We should never have gone into Iraq in the first place. Iraq was never more important because Iraq wasn't responsible for the deaths of thousands of US civilians.

Really, how many times does this need to be said before someone who says Ho-hum... this sort of thing has been chewed over so many countless times will wake up and realize we needed to get OBL, period.

352 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:53:44pm

re: #351 Olsonist

Really, how many times does this need to be said before someone who says Ho-hum... this sort of thing has been chewed over so many countless times will wake up and realize we needed to get OBL, period.

Bin Laden was just the symptom, not the disease. He's done very little since Tora Bora, and he's likely dead by now so missing him, while bad, was by no means disastrous.

353 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:57:04pm

re: #351 Olsonist

Really, how many times does this need to be said before someone who says Ho-hum... this sort of thing has been chewed over so many countless times will wake up and realize we needed to get OBL, period.

I'm pretty sure OBL died of kidney failure several years ago. Recovering his body so the cumstains can't make a shrine out of his grave would still be worthwhile.

354 Bagua  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 10:57:16pm

re: #346 Olsonist

Saying Iraq was pointless is being generous.


Do not force me to say Ni!!

355 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 11:02:55pm

There's this guy. His name is Osama bin Laden. He orchestrated the 9/11 hijackings. He bankrolled al Qaeda. He is alive now, in retirement, having recovered from his injuries at Tora Bora. Apparently he still has ties with the Taliban.

And you are saying OBL's the symptom, not the disease.

356 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 11:12:00pm

re: #355 Olsonist

Bin Laden is dead. And the intolerant Wahabbi strain of Islam is the thing that breeds Al Qaeda. Think of AQ and its terrorists as mosquitoes rising from the fever swamp. Land-line is Islam is the fever swamp. Make other avenues more attractive than political Islam and AQ will wither.

I've started fading fast and must go to bed. Goodnight, all.

357 Olsonist  Sun, Feb 21, 2010 11:14:24pm

If the intolerant Wahabbi strain of Islam is the problem, we should have invaded Saudi Arabia.

358 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Feb 22, 2010 12:29:39am

re: #347 Bagua

Ho-hum... this sort of thing has been chewed over so many countless times.

It has. But it does sort of put the Republican credibility with regard to national security in question, yes? Also, that whole Dick Cheney versus Colin Powell brou-haha. Who's more credible? The partisan or the general?

359 Jimmah  Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:11:28am

re: #356 Dark_Falcon

Bin Laden is dead. And the intolerant Wahabbi strain of Islam is the thing that breeds Al Qaeda. Think of AQ and its terrorists as mosquitoes rising from the fever swamp. Land-line is Islam is the fever swamp. Make other avenues more attractive than political Islam and AQ will wither.

I've started fading fast and must go to bed. Goodnight, all.


DF - there is no reason to suppose that Bin Laden is dead. This is just wishful thinking supported by baseless rumours (and daft conspiracy theories regarding the faking of video and audio tapes):


360 Mike DeGuzman  Mon, Feb 22, 2010 6:25:59am

Nothing new here. Ron Paul is a long shot for 2012.
"What - Me Worry?" - Alfred E. Neuman
Image: File:Mad30.jpg

361 S'latch  Mon, Feb 22, 2010 6:49:39am

It shocks me that Stormfront even exists. I wonder if Ron Paul has ever denounced this group and clearly rejected the support he receives from associates of it. If not, someone who is in a position to require him to answer (like the people in his district) should ask him why.

362 Kobyashi Maru  Tue, Feb 23, 2010 10:48:22am

Count me in as part of the conspiracy, if those people ever found out that Jews really controlled the world, we'd have to zap them with our circumcise-laser! Read the Red Tent, on the third day, we'd slaughter them all!

/heavily.....

363 Kobyashi Maru  Tue, Feb 23, 2010 10:52:34am

re: #357 Olsonist

We should have, all our problems with that part of the world would be over, put Anne Coulter in charge and as she said, kill all their leaders and convert them the Christianity:....

/kinda sarc, but a ring of M1A2's around the Khana Kaba might send a message to to ever, ever **** with us ever again!


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