John Birch Society at Texas GOP Convention
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Front and center at the official biennial convention of the Republican Party of Texas: the John Birch Society.
(Hat tip: KT.)
435 comments
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:39:12pm |
Aww look at that, right wing lunacy couldn’t be any cuter unless those flag pin buttons were in the shapes of hearts instead of ordinary circles….
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:40:20pm |
Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:40:37pm |
But…but…but they’re not the GOP mainstream! The Republicans aren’t associating with them! How can you spend so much time focusing on random loons and not on the Left?!?!?!!!!!!!!!111111
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:40:39pm |
It somewhat strikes me that two of the kids in the picture are black. Is the JBS trying to make the point that they aren’t racist like some on the right have been shown to be?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:41:19pm |
“And by family and freedom, we mean white christian europeans who think exactly the way we do.”
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wrenchwench Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:41:33pm |
Irrelevant! They’re from the fifties! Why are you so afraid of them?!?
/wingnut diversion
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:42:22pm |
out of the closet and into the mainstream…watch the supremists and neo’s follow…bet me
the beast is on the loose and nothing can be done about it….the mighty First works both ways
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:42:28pm |
re: #2 Reginald Perrin
Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.
Great movie. Kubrick did brilliant work directing it and Peter Sellers to three characters (two straight men and one comic buffoon) and made them all his own.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:42:36pm |
re: #4 Dark_Falcon
It somewhat strikes me that two of the kids in the picture are black. Is the JBS trying to make the point that they aren’t racist like some on the right have been shown to be?
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:43:40pm |
re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
But…but…but they’re not the GOP mainstream! The Republicans aren’t associating with them! How can you spend so much time focusing on random loons and not on the Left?!?!?!!!111111
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Republican doesn’t mean shit right now….wait til the votes are counted…what concerns me is the death of conservatism
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:43:47pm |
The John Birch Society has not made a return in the Republican Party!1111!!1!1 — Conn Carroll.
/
[Link: bloggingheads.tv…]
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:44:08pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
“And by family and freedom, we mean white christian europeans who think exactly the way we do.”
no, look at the cute black kids in the picture…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:44:21pm |
re: #9 jamesfirecat
That show should never have been canceled!
/spitooie!
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:45:15pm |
re: #12 brookly red
no, look at the cute black kids in the picture…
Oh, I guess they really have changed then. Lets give them a hug.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:45:17pm |
BO has disrupted the Force…
a lot of people don’t like that dude
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:46:02pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Great movie. Kubrick did brilliant work directing it and Peter Sellers to three characters (two straight men and one comic buffoon) and made them all his own.
Here we are almost fifty years since the movie was made and the John Birch Society is alive and kicking, I bet Kubrick is rolling in his grave.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:46:23pm |
I just got served a Goldline ad by Google Adsense. Talk about your context recognition.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:48:50pm |
re: #16 Reginald Perrin
Time for a remake. Hollywood loves doing those.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:48:52pm |
re: #17 Charles
I just got served a Goldline ad by Google Adsense. Talk about your context recognition.
LOL.
Who needs worthless cash that can be redeemed almost anywhere when you can buy gold?
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:49:03pm |
At least the image tells us they are trying to distance themselves from their views of the 50’s. Or they are counting on people to no longer remember.
I have not looked into their recent views and positions on anything. To what extent are the illustrations relevant and to what extent are they just eyewash?
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:49:34pm |
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:49:45pm |
re: #20 ralphieboy
At least the image tells us they are trying to distance themselves from their views of the 50’s. Or they are counting on people to no longer remember.
I have not looked into their recent views and positions on anything. To what extent are the illustrations relevant and to what extent are they just eyewash?
you tell us
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:50:08pm |
re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth
Time for a remake. Hollywood loves doing those.
If they get Steve Martin to take over Peter Sellers’ roles like they did with Pink Panther remakes, I will personally sabotage the sets!!!
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:50:14pm |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
LOL.
Who needs worthless cash that can be redeemed almost anywhere when you can buy gold?
Yep, and they’ll even accept your worthless Fed issued fiat money or bank credit for it at face value. Can’t beat that deal!
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:50:39pm |
re: #15 albusteve
BO has disrupted the Force…
a lot of people don’t like that dude
yes but we are still on step 3…
we will get to that on step 5.
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YoungTim Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:50:41pm |
Can someone direct me to some documentation on the Birchers & racism? I know very little about them and have always heard them linked with racism, but surprisingly a Google search doesn’t seem to turn up much. I’m sure there’s a trove of info about these guys out there somewhere, and why they’re suddenly mainstreamed again.
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Yashmak Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:50:51pm |
Either the perspective is weird, or they have a REALLY diminuative guy working the table.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:51:09pm |
re: #22 albusteve
you tell us
Actually I really am open to hear anything that might indicate they have changed, I am not about to look into it right now, though.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:51:18pm |
re: #21 Gus 802
Two rotten peas in the same rotten pod.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:52:09pm |
re: #24 Shiplord Kirel
Yep, and they’ll even accept your worthless Fed issued fiat money or bank credit for it at face value. Can’t beat that deal!
Pfft, suckers. Foldin’ money don’t even conduct ‘lectricity.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:52:13pm |
Not that the GOP convention doesn’t attract young, healthy people, but this is fuckin’ ridiculous!
Image: 20100610_Michels_GOPConvention_001.jpg
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:52:21pm |
re: #26 YoungTim
Can someone direct me to some documentation on the Birchers & racism? I know very little about them and have always heard them linked with racism, but surprisingly a Google search doesn’t seem to turn up much. I’m sure there’s a trove of info about these guys out there somewhere, and why they’re suddenly mainstreamed again.
You could not be more obvious in your trolling. That was real smooth/
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:52:27pm |
just wait til a racist theocrat, creationist, rapture monger wins the WH…we will have our own western mullahs in power!
the 12th Imam vrs the Coming of Christ!
yowza!
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:52:37pm |
re: #17 Charles
I just got served a Goldline ad by Google Adsense. Talk about your context recognition.
BUY GOLD!!!11
World’s Biggest Gold Coin to Be Auctioned in Vienna on June 25
The world’s largest gold coin, a Maple Leaf worth C$4.06 million ($3.9 million) at current prices, will be auctioned in Vienna on June 25.
The coin, made of pure gold, weighs 100 kilograms (3,527 ounces) and is 53 centimeters (21 inches) in diameter, the Dorotheum auction house said on its website.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:53:13pm |
re: #23 ralphieboy
If they get Steve Martin to take over Peter Sellers’ roles like they did with Pink Panther remakes, I will personally sabotage the sets!!!
You and me both, brother.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:53:30pm |
The John Birch society is like a conga line of children.
Quite the apt metaphor.
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bubba zanetti Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:53:39pm |
This Looks Shopped
I Can Tell From Some of the Pixels And From Seeing Quite a Few Shops In My Time
///9000
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:53:47pm |
re: #26 YoungTim
Can someone direct me to some documentation on the Birchers & racism? I know very little about them and have always heard them linked with racism, but surprisingly a Google search doesn’t seem to turn up much. I’m sure there’s a trove of info about these guys out there somewhere, and why they’re suddenly mainstreamed again.
/well there is this thing called Google but it is very powerful & I don’t know if you can deal with it…
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:53:51pm |
re: #28 ralphieboy
Actually I really am open to hear anything that might indicate they have changed, I am not about to look into it right now, though.
they have not changed their hearts….marketing is everything, don’t you watch Am Idol?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:54:01pm |
re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth
Pfft, suckers. Foldin’ money don’t even conduct ‘lectricity.
Nor can it be used to form artificial functional teeth.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:54:20pm |
re: #35 Reginald Perrin
BUY GOLD!!!11
World’s Biggest Gold Coin to Be Auctioned in Vienna on June 25The world’s largest gold coin, a Maple Leaf worth C$4.06 million ($3.9 million) at current prices, will be auctioned in Vienna on June 25.
The coin, made of pure gold, weighs 100 kilograms (3,527 ounces) and is 53 centimeters (21 inches) in diameter, the Dorotheum auction house said on its website.
Oh, Canada!
/I had to say it.
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Yashmak Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:54:23pm |
re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Nor can it be used to form artificial functional teeth.
Well, not effective ones at least.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:54:31pm |
re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth
Time for a remake. Hollywood loves doing those.
Can we cast John C Mcginley as General Ripper?
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:55:17pm |
re: #29 Boogberg
What does that mean? It sounds good.
Oh I get it now. It’s the Glen Beck thing. Ha!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:55:24pm |
re: #32 darthstar
Not that the GOP convention doesn’t attract young, healthy people, but this is fuckin’ ridiculous!
Image: 20100610_Michels_GOPConvention_001.jpg
Please don’t diss users of ECVs. My mother uses one of those when she goes to large events.
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Irenicum Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:55:35pm |
My favorite comment under that article: “I see the gay clubs and titty bars are going to be at full capacity this weekend…”
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:56:07pm |
re: #33 CapeCoddah
You could not be more obvious in your trolling. That was real smooth/
hush at least he didn’t end his handle with a number this time… but that young thing kinda creeps me out, you know like rent boy stuff. Ewwww.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:56:41pm |
re: #43 Dark_Falcon
Oh, Canada!
/I had to say it.
buying gold has been very lucrative for me….gold, not paper futures…maybe people should snark on that for a while
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:56:45pm |
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
Please don’t diss users of ECVs. My mother uses one of those when she goes to large events.
Okie dokie.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:56:46pm |
re: #48 Irenicum
My favorite comment under that article: “I see the gay clubs and titty bars are going to be at full capacity this weekend…”
Does “titty bars” cover “Lesbian bondage bars” as well?
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:57:04pm |
re: #45 jamesfirecat
Can we cast John C Mcginley as General Ripper?
Take your hat off when you say that boy.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:57:41pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:57:47pm |
re: #52 jamesfirecat
Does “titty bars” cover “Lesbian bondage bars” as well?
‘Cuz if it don’t, we’re gonna hafta open one of our own.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:57:55pm |
re: #35 Reginald Perrin
World’s Biggest Gold Coin to Be Auctioned in Vienna on June 25
Just whut ah needs to buy me a big-ass bag o’ non-hybrid seeds when the shit hits the fan.
Got change?
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:58:11pm |
re: #26 YoungTim
I’m sure there’s a trove of info about these guys out there somewhere, and why they’re suddenly mainstreamed again.
Yes there is and the place is called the internet. Instead of trolling blogs, why don’t you make better use of your time, do some research and educate yourself.
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RadicalModerate Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:58:27pm |
I posted a couple of threads downstairs about some of the goings-on with the Texas GOP convention - as I noted then, this convention was seriously bad news.
Reposting here for your perusal:
Birchers, dog whistles, and a US Senator giving a speech that would have been right at home in 1930s Germany. And we had Michelle Bachmann here too.
Slater: Texas Republicans display a siege mentality
Some snippets:
“The fox is in the henhouse,” said congressional candidate Stephen Broden of DeSoto of the myriad enemies bearing down on conservatives. “And they have one thing in mind — fried chicken salad.”
At the Voice of the Martyrs booth was a map of Christians persecuted for their religion. The John Birch Society was selling a book, Inside the Terror Triangle, in which Washington, Moscow and the Middle East have collaborated against hapless American families.
When Sen. John Cornyn took the stage Friday and enumerated the myriad sources of their persecution, they cheered.
“Liberals want to turn our state over to the trial lawyers,” Cornyn said. “Liberals want to turn our state over to union bosses. Liberals want to turn our state over to intellectuals.”Faraone prayed for divine intervention to seal the US-Mexican border to stem the tide of illegal immigration: “Because of iniquity, the United States-Mexican border is shrouded in spiritual darkness.”
Still, pending God’s help on the border, there are some things the victims on this side can do, she said — noting in her prayer the sheriff of Hudspeth County, who is urging Texans on the border to arm themselves.
Scary, scary stuff indeed.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:59:16pm |
re: #49 brookly red
hush at least he didn’t end his handle with a number this time… but that young thing kinda creeps me out, you know like rent boy stuff. Ewww.
Could YL have access to a registration date a couple years old?
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:59:38pm |
re: #56 Cato the Elder
Just whut ah needs to buy me a big-ass bag o’ non-hybrid seeds when the shit hits the fan.
Got change?
I’m sorry, I only accept payment in the form of chickens stuffed with ammunition.
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YoungTim Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:00:05pm |
oh lordy, what a bunch of jerks, I’m not trolling, or lacking in google skills, but google does return a bunch of links, none of them referencing any specifics at all. I know nothing about the Birchers and was wondering if someone in here does. I assume that’s the case, and yet… asking for a simple link to what is supposedly very easy and obvious to find gets me insulted. thanks guys
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:00:11pm |
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:00:15pm |
I swear, I thought the John Birch society was an urban legend until I came here. Or at least that they died out a long time ago. Crap. Just what we need.
But don’t forget equal time, and get a pic of the Young Communist League ‘s reps at the Democrat convention in NY. Or at least a tape of Major Owens, (D, NY) welcoming them to Brooklyn.//
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:00:35pm |
re: #50 albusteve
buying gold has been very lucrative for me…gold, not paper futures…maybe people should snark on that for a while
Gold is cool but it’s not very liquid.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:01:16pm |
re: #53 brookly red
Take your hat off when you say that boy.
I have nothing but respect for the fine men who played their parts in Doctor Strangelove (my dad bought the movie on DVD back when we only had about a dozen movies on DVD rather than about a hundred or so) I’m just wondering who would be best for what….
That said we should probably get Johnny C to play General Buck Turgidson… if we can cast whoever we want lets get Glen Beck to play General Ripper, hell we may be able to do it just with stock clips of his show and Youtube….
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:01:18pm |
re: #26 YoungTim
Can someone direct me to some documentation on the Birchers & racism? I know very little about them and have always heard them linked with racism, but surprisingly a Google search doesn’t seem to turn up much. I’m sure there’s a trove of info about these guys out there somewhere, and why they’re suddenly mainstreamed again.
You’ve been registered here for 2 years and you ask a fishy question like that?
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:01:19pm |
re: #63 tradewind
I swear, I thought the John Birch society was an urban legend until I came here. Or at least that they died out a long time ago. Crap. Just what we need.
But don’t forget equal time, and get a pic of the Young Communist League ‘s reps at the Democrat convention in NY. Or at least a tape of Major Owens, (D, NY) welcoming them to Brooklyn.//
you ain’t seen nothing yet…the JBS will be second rate compared to what’s coming
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:02:04pm |
re: #64 Boogberg
Gold is cool but it’s not very liquid.
It can easily be melted and poured over your head for an instant crown, though.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:02:38pm |
re: #64 Boogberg
Gold is cool but it’s not very liquid.
and worse, I don’t have access to mine…I’ll triple my money at best
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:02:44pm |
How many Birchers know who John Birch was? Or is he like L. Ron Hubbard to them?
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:02:53pm |
re: #61 YoungTim
oh lordy, what a bunch of jerks, I’m not trolling, or lacking in google skills, but google does return a bunch of links, none of them referencing any specifics at all. I know nothing about the Birchers and was wondering if someone in here does. I assume that’s the case, and yet… asking for a simple link to what is supposedly very easy and obvious to find gets me insulted. thanks guys
Try again, with stupid people this time.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:03:24pm |
re: #26 YoungTim
You don’t need no stinkin’ direction….. Bircher is a synonym for Nutjob. I mean, I learned that at my Mama’s knee, and she’s totally Republican.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:03:33pm |
re: #70 darthstar
How many Birchers know who John Birch was? Or is he like L. Ron Hubbard to them?
yeah, who’s buried in Grants tomb?
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:03:52pm |
re: #63 tradewind
I swear, I thought the John Birch society was an urban legend until I came here. Or at least that they died out a long time ago. Crap. Just what we need.
But don’t forget equal time, and get a pic of the Young Communist League ‘s reps at the Democrat convention in NY. Or at least a tape of Major Owens, (D, NY) welcoming them to Brooklyn.//
when you think I am a wingnut please remember that all these freaks start in Brooklyn. From jihadies to birthers they all come from Brooklyn please f’n listen to me…
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:04:13pm |
re: #70 darthstar
How many Birchers know who John Birch was? Or is he like L. Ron Hubbard to them?
He wasn’t a leader, just an icon—like Horst Wessel.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:04:32pm |
My cursory search (and your lizard postings) indicate that they are just as out to lunch as they have ever been on issues like dismantiling the Federal Reserve, the threat of godless Communism (the demise of the USSR is just a plot to lure us into a false sense of security) and support for Minutemen to defend America once it is taken over by foreign powers.
But very little on their current views towards race, and nothing to indicate that it has changed from the days when they supported lester Maddox.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:05:01pm |
re: #58 RadicalModerate
At the Voice of the Martyrs booth was a map of Christians persecuted for their religion.
I’d like to see that map, just to confirm which instances are actual persecution, and which are simply instances where said ‘martyrs’ were simply denied special treatment or preferences for shoving their religion down other people’s throats.
“Liberals want to turn our state over to the trial lawyers,” Cornyn said. “Liberals want to turn our state over to union bosses. Liberals want to turn our state over to intellectuals.”
Whoa, wait a minute, I’m confused. Was this a Republican convention or a Maoist convention?
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:05:05pm |
re: #73 albusteve
yeah, who’s buried in Grants tomb?
If it’s in Arlington, your guess is as good as mine.
[Link: abcnews.go.com…]
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:05:15pm |
re: #70 darthstar
The first L Ron or Stan’s reincarnation?/
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:05:26pm |
re: #43 Dark_Falcon
It may be time to fire up the grill and get a few side dishes ready.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:05:41pm |
re: #75 Decatur Deb
He wasn’t a leader, just an icon—like Horst Wessel.
You know how to Wessel, don’t you Horst, just pucker your lips and blow!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:05:54pm |
re: #51 darthstar
Okie dokie.
Thank you. Sorry if I was hostile. It’s just that one of my responsibilities for family outings to such events is getting my mother an ECV.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:06:40pm |
re: #82 Dark_Falcon
Thank you. Sorry if I was hostile. It’s just that one of my responsibilities for family outings to such events is getting my mother an ECV.
No worries. It was a cheap shot at unhealthy people, and deserved the response you gave.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:07:10pm |
re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:07:15pm |
re: #80 Reginald Perrin
It may be time to fire up the grill and get a few side dishes ready.
I’ll get the charcoal ready. No mesquite needed. Bircher Troll is self-smoking, you know.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:07:50pm |
re: #83 darthstar
No worries. It was a cheap shot at unhealthy people, and deserved the response you gave.
LOL.
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Jadespring Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:08:30pm |
re: #76 ralphieboy
I thought one of their things was/is? the repeal of the Civil Rights act. Something to do with it’s connection to commies and the NWO blah blah. Don’t remember the details of how they made the connection though. I think everything was/is connected with commie/elites/NWO/bankers (dogs a whistling on that one) and whole lot of other conspiracy minded ‘thems’.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:09:11pm |
re: #61 YoungTim
When you step in and ask a question like that, it leads us to think you haven’t been paying attention, are trying to stir things up, or that you might be YL92.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:09:41pm |
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:09:46pm |
re: #86 Decatur Deb
Is that a WWII era wisecrack?
Lauren Bacall to Humphrey Bogart in “To Have and to Have not”
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:10:32pm |
re: #76 ralphieboy
My cursory search (and your lizard postings) indicate that they are just as out to lunch as they have ever been on issues like dismantiling the Federal Reserve, the threat of godless Communism (the demise of the USSR is just a plot to lure us into a false sense of security) and support for Minutemen to defend America once it is taken over by foreign powers.
But very little on their current views towards race, and nothing to indicate that it has changed from the days when they supported lester Maddox.
yes, we knew that…hence Charles post
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:10:34pm |
re: #69 albusteve
and worse, I don’t have access to mine…I’ll triple my money at best
You bought gold at $400 and change?
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:10:37pm |
(Okay, now I’m really ticked at Safari 5’s update: Now when I click closed a link after reading it from a post, my freaking browser shuts down and closes me out of LGF.
This update (5.0) is soooo screwed. Jobs please fix it now)!
Now returning to regular scheduled programming……
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:11:18pm |
re: #88 Jadespring
I thought one of their things was/is? the repeal of the Civil Rights act. Something to do with it’s connection to commies and the NWO blah blah. Don’t remember the details of how they made the connection though. I think everything was/is connected with commie/elites/NWO/bankers (dogs a whistling on that one) and whole lot of other conspiracy minded ‘thems’.
So the photo shows a conga line of kids on their was to separate lunch counters, I guess…
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:11:25pm |
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Lidane Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:11:48pm |
re: #58 RadicalModerate
Slater: Texas Republicans display a siege mentality
—snip—
Scary, scary stuff indeed.
Exactly. And that’s why, no matter what disagreements I might have with the Democrats, I absolutely will not vote for the Republicans here in Texas. They’ve been taken over by crazy people. Or maybe the crazy people are just more noticeable since Obama was elected, I’m not sure.
The Dems might be next to useless in this state, but at least they’re relatively sane compared to the GOP.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:12:20pm |
re: #74 brookly red
I don’t think you’re a wingnut./
Sorry to disappoint…
:)
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:12:21pm |
re: #88 Jadespring
I thought one of their things was/is? the repeal of the Civil Rights act. Something to do with it’s connection to commies and the NWO blah blah. Don’t remember the details of how they made the connection though. I think everything was/is connected with commie/elites/NWO/bankers (dogs a whistling on that one) and whole lot of other conspiracy minded ‘thems’.
Plus flouridation and (I think) laetrile.
[Link: news.google.com…]
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:12:38pm |
re: #93 Boogberg
You bought gold at $400 and change?
1oz 1973 Krugerrands for $150 apiece…I think I have around 80 of them
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:13:17pm |
re: #98 tradewind
I don’t think you’re a wingnut./
Sorry to disappoint…
:)
I am… and working undercover.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:13:25pm |
re: #91 ralphieboy
Lauren Bacall to Humphrey Bogart in “To Have and to Have not”
[Video]
Excellent. Thought something like troopship scene.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:13:33pm |
OT: Alfred Hitchcock lets off a “That’s what she said” joke. Sort of.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:13:57pm |
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:13:59pm |
re: #100 albusteve
1oz 1973 Krugerrands for $150 apiece…I think I have around 80 of them
Nice call Steve
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:14:00pm |
re: #100 albusteve
1oz 1973 Krugerrands for $150 apiece…I think I have around 80 of them
hold on to them they is going up up up .
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:14:44pm |
re: #107 tradewind
Well, not anymore!/
Moonbats won’t remember that beyond 3 minutes… retention problems.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:15:04pm |
re: #100 albusteve
You should have kept that to yourself. Now you’re gonna be stuck buying all the booze.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:15:13pm |
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:16:09pm |
re: #106 brookly red
hold on to them they is going up up up .
They are not likely to go below $150 in any case…
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:16:15pm |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
The older ones, anyway. There was some bad stuff circulating in the seventies./
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Jadespring Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:17:03pm |
re: #95 ralphieboy
So the photo shows a conga line of kids on their was to separate lunch counters, I guess…
Yes I suppose you’re right. Photos used for marketing purposes never ever, ever, ever mislead or paint the product or group in any way. Marketing photos always indicate the truth about what is being sold.
Now if you’ll excuse me I just saw a hair ad photo and need to head to the drug store to get some color. It promises to give me the most amazing glossy mane of hair evah and make guys swoon.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:17:31pm |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
You should have kept that to yourself. Now you’re gonna be stuck buying all the booze.
Make mine a double Goldschläger, please.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:18:35pm |
re: #111 Boogberg
Holy crap. Nicely done!
my daddy died in 77… me and my sister took his insurance & bought gold. Some folks laugh at the investment, we don’t.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:18:42pm |
re: #105 HoosierHoops
Nice call Steve
there is more to it…they were hot and I bought them way under value…the Karma really sucks, but that was a very long time ago…frankly they give me a bad vibe and they are in Jamaica, so I have no clue how to redeem them straight up…I’d have to answer a lot of questions, but I need to figure it out and do something with them…I could use a windfall about now
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:18:52pm |
re: #116 Cato the Elder
Imbibing heavy metals is never a good idea, but it’s your body so knock yourself out.
I’ll stick with the cheap beer. Or Guinness if Steve is buying. :)
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:19:00pm |
re: #114 YoungTim
Cape Coddah, go fuck yourself you jackass.
Tradewind, I was also raised calling the Birchers nutjobs, but when I asked my dad why, he couldn’t really give any exapmles, and before I go parroting that line, I’d love an example to cite. Other than Coddah and the rest of the douchebags in here who only live to embarrass the millions of trolls who are obviously lurking around every corner
Wow… you’re trying really hard to convince all of us in one fell swoop that you are one of the bigger ass wipes on the internet. Do you do this professionally, or is it just a hobby? Because if it’s just a hobby, I would suggest that you invest some of your time cultivating this talent. You may be able to win some major awards.
Jerk.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:19:25pm |
re: #69 albusteve
and worse, I don’t have access to mine…I’ll triple my money at best
Triple? You mean octuple.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:19:38pm |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
I caught that not-using-a-sarc-tag thing of yours a while back, Walter, and smiled. I have less faith in some people’s ability to read between the lines. There could be a lizard with Asperger’s, after all, who though very intelligent, just takes what you say at face.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:20:06pm |
re: #114 YoungTim
Nice spew, troll. Keep frenzying, I’m putting the charcoal on the grill now.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:20:11pm |
re: #114 YoungTim
Cape Coddah, go fuck yourself you jackass.
Tradewind, I was also raised calling the Birchers nutjobs, but when I asked my dad why, he couldn’t really give any exapmles, and before I go parroting that line, I’d love an example to cite. Other than Coddah and the rest of the douchebags in here who only live to embarrass the millions of trolls who are obviously lurking around every corner
I really did watn to approach this neutrally (and without name calling or troll baiting) to see if the JBS had changed its positions on some of the things it supported in the 60’s.
My general impression is that it has not.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:20:57pm |
re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth
Imbibing heavy metals is never a good idea, but it’s your body so knock yourself out.
I’ll stick with the cheap beer. Or Guinness if Steve is buying. :)
Gold is completely inert and harmless when ingested.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:21:12pm |
re: #123 tradewind
I caught that not-using-a-sarc-tag thing of yours a while back, Walter, and smiled. I have less faith in some people’s ability to read between the lines. There could be a lizard with Asperger’s, after all, who though very intelligent, just takes what you say at face.
Now your putting down Asperger’s.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:21:36pm |
re: #123 tradewind
I caught that not-using-a-sarc-tag thing of yours a while back, Walter, and smiled. I have less faith in some people’s ability to read between the lines. There could be a lizard with Asperger’s, after all, who though very intelligent, just takes what you say at face.
Or they could be a nieve liberal college kid who blithely ends up taking everything they hear at face value…
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:21:48pm |
re: #122 Bagua
Triple? You mean octuple.
something like that…I’m not really too concerned…I know where they are
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RadicalModerate Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:21:57pm |
re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth
Whoa, wait a minute, I’m confused. Was this a Republican convention or a Maoist convention?
Seeing as this was coming from John Cornyn, who has a history of bigoted statements (see his “box turtle” statement regarding same-sex marriage), I’m thinking more of rally of a different sort - you know, the one who espoused the evils of trade unionists, intellectuals, gays, immigrants…
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:22:25pm |
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:22:46pm |
re: #114 YoungTim
Since you asked,
I think the overwhelming nuttiness factor stems from their tendency to see conspiracy behind every single action of government. And I’m a limited-government type, but really….
It’s just all too exhausting.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:22:48pm |
re: #131 Cato the Elder
Cape Coddah is a lady, and a friend of mine.
Say that to me. I dare you.
got your 6
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:23:24pm |
re: #126 Cato the Elder
Gold is completely inert and harmless when ingested.
But shitting it can give you delusions of grandeur.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:23:24pm |
re: #128 jamesfirecat
Or they could be a nieve liberal college kid who blithely ends up taking everything they hear at face value…
I give you a whole-hearted pat on the back for that comment. That was about as honest a statement that I have heard someone admit too in a very long time.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:23:41pm |
re: #127 Walter L. Newton
Au contraire… I was just saying we may be putting up with it, unawares.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:24:46pm |
re: #134 Decatur Deb
But shitting it can give you delusions of grandeur.
In the end, it turns out that not even Tywin Lannister shat gold.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:24:50pm |
re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth
Whoa, wait a minute, I’m confused. Was this a Republican convention or a Maoist convention?
You get some weird convergences out on the fringe, like a distrust of intellectuals and elites, a (Maoist) belief in the “withering away of the state” or the conservative goal of “shrinking the federal government down to the size that I can drown it in a bathtub”, and a belief that there is only one party that is ideologically pure enough to rule.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:25:02pm |
re: #114 YoungTim
Cape Coddah, go fuck yourself you jackass.
Tradewind, I was also raised calling the Birchers nutjobs, but when I asked my dad why, he couldn’t really give any exapmles, and before I go parroting that line, I’d love an example to cite. Other than Coddah and the rest of the douchebags in here who only live to embarrass the millions of trolls who are obviously lurking around every corner
No fuck you pal…Don’t you ever come here trash talking Lizards you bitch…
You feeling me..Cause I will destroy anything you say forever…Easily Bitch..
Back the fuck off pal…Cape is a good person that has an opinion…
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:25:13pm |
re: #116 Cato the Elder
Make mine a double Goldschläger, please.
I used to drink GoldSchlager…made my poop sparkle like a vampire in the sun.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:25:41pm |
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:25:53pm |
re: #140 darthstar
I used to drink GoldSchlager…made my poop sparkle like a vampire in the sun.
thank you for sharing that.
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:26:04pm |
re: #117 brookly red
my daddy died in 77… me and my sister took his insurance & bought gold. Some folks laugh at the investment, we don’t.
Well hats off to you girls. Gold is what it is. You might be able to get a better return on your money elsewhere from time to time. Go with your instincts though.
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ryannon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:26:11pm |
re: #69 albusteve
and worse, I don’t have access to mine…I’ll triple my money at best
If you can remember where the hell you hid it.
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avanti Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:26:13pm |
re: #112 ralphieboy
They are not likely to go below $150 in any case…
With inflation, they would have to stay above $700 to stay even.
“What cost $150 in 1973 would cost $716.29 in 2009.”
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:26:26pm |
re: #126 Cato the Elder
Gold is completely inert and harmless when ingested.
Is it really? I did not know that. Obviously.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:27:00pm |
re: #116 Cato the Elder
Make mine a double Goldschläger, please.
*shudders*
Oy. Some of the worst hangovers of my 20’s came because of that stuff. That and Rumple Minze. Never, ever again. No way.
If someone’s buying drinks around here, just buy me a glass of some good wine, or maybe a good bourbon, neat of course.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:27:12pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
I give you a whole-hearted pat on the back for that comment. That was about as honest a statement that I have heard someone admit too in a very long time.
Being a liberal white as the driven snow middle class kid who grew up with two parents who love each other and both graduated from college (and not any college, they went to William and Mary!) with a dad who worked and a mom who stayed at home but slowly began to transition into the work force as we got older and two cats, I more or less grew up in what amounts to the picture perfect American Nuclear Family, a member of the upper middle class whose parents currently own three homes, (though two of them are more like hotel suits than actual homes) I have a wonderful capacity for self-deprecation.
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Jadespring Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:28:04pm |
re: #140 darthstar
I used to drink GoldSchlager…made my poop sparkle like a vampire in the sun.
Nothing worse then the aftermath of the staff party where the shots of GoldSchlager came out on the bosses tab. At least the toilet was sparkly and slightly nicer to look at during the hours spent staring into it.
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:28:10pm |
re: #126 Cato the Elder
Gold is completely inert and harmless when ingested.
It’s a homeopathic metal.
/
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:28:15pm |
re: #144 ryannon
If you can remember where the hell you hid it.
there is a pattern of banana trees…and I have photos, but it’s a fucked up deal…I was young
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:28:41pm |
re: #145 avanti
With inflation, they would have to stay above $700 to stay even.
“What cost $150 in 1973 would cost $716.29 in 2009.”
Inflation is an abstract concept. When push comes to shove, the true value in gold will be expressed in terms of how many protein cakes and/or bullets you can buy per ounce of boullion.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:28:42pm |
re: #140 darthstar
I used to drink GoldSchlager…made my poop sparkle like a vampire in the sun.
Back in the glory days of yuppie greed, it was considered quite chi-chi to throw parties where various items of food contained bits of gold flake.
Of course, they got that from us Romans.
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:29:06pm |
re: #34 albusteve
just wait til a racist theocrat, creationist, rapture monger wins the WH…we will have our own western mullahs in power!
the 12th Imam vrs the Coming of Christ!
yowza!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:29:27pm |
re: #146 Slumbering Behemoth
Is it really? I did not know that. Obviously.
it’s true…that’s why it’s gold
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:29:42pm |
re: #143 Boogberg
Well hats off to you girls. Gold is what it is. You might be able to get a better return on your money elsewhere from time to time. Go with your instincts though.
thank you. I am not a girl btw…
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:29:48pm |
re: #148 jamesfirecat
But a woeful lack of appreciation for spelling. Seriously, James, if I’m wincing, Cato must be writhing in pain./
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:30:21pm |
Awesome Jew’s Harp Talent
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:30:47pm |
A single 5mm nugget of gold can be hammered out into a foil square 0.5 meters on a side. To cover a good-sized dome takes about an ounce.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:30:54pm |
re: #154 Cato the Elder
Back in the glory days of yuppie greed, it was considered quite chi-chi to throw parties where various items of food contained bits of gold flake.
Of course, they got that from us Romans.
Now I want to buy a bottle, drink it, take a dump, and mail it to the Cash-4-Gold people with a note that says, “I want a fair value…this shit ain’t cheap!”
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:31:36pm |
re: #153 ralphieboy
Inflation is an abstract concept. When push comes to shove, the true value in gold will be expressed in terms of how many protein cakes and/or bullets you can buy per ounce of boullion.
/My 30 ought trumps your Prisus … sorry bout that.
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:32:16pm |
re: #114 YoungTim
Cape Coddah, go fuck yourself you jackass.
Tradewind, I was also raised calling the Birchers nutjobs, but when I asked my dad why, he couldn’t really give any exapmles, and before I go parroting that line, I’d love an example to cite. Other than Coddah and the rest of the douchebags in here who only live to embarrass the millions of trolls who are obviously lurking around every corner
Two years, twenty seven posts, and this is the subject you pick to tell longtime Lizardi to commit unnatural acts?
Why would *anyone* call you a troll? I mean it’s a total mystery!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:32:46pm |
re: #153 ralphieboy
Inflation is an abstract concept. When push comes to shove, the true value in gold will be expressed in terms of how many protein cakes and/or bullets you can buy per ounce of boullion.
You are not in a Post-Apocalyptic mind set. You buy the bullets with the gold, then you take the protein cakes and the gold with the bullets.
Remind me not to invite you into my bunker when the nukes start flying.
/
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:33:11pm |
re: #148 jamesfirecat
Being a liberal white as the driven snow middle class kid who grew up with two parents who love each other and both graduated from college (and not any college, they went to William and Mary!) with a dad who worked and a mom who stayed at home but slowly began to transition into the work force as we got older and two cats, I more or less grew up in what amounts to the picture perfect American Nuclear Family, a member of the upper middle class whose parents currently own three homes, (though two of them are more like hotel suits than actual homes) I have a wonderful capacity for self-deprecation.
It’ll be hard to get some cred without getting killed, arrested or infected. Be patient, there’ll be another Abraham Lincoln Brigade.
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Randall Gross Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:33:44pm |
Completely ot - I got hooked up with an invite to Google Voice today from a query I made months back - I’ll let you know how it goes.
[Link: noblesseoblige.org…]
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:33:54pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
You are not in a Post-Apocalyptic mind set. You buy the bullets with the gold, then you take the protein cakes and the gold with the bullets.
Remind me not to invite you into my bunker when the nukes start flying.
/
right on…and don’t forget the whiskey and toilet paper
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:35:17pm |
“Muss-Be” -
Cause Muss-‘Ain’t don’t sound/look right. these are the “Reform Birchers.” Back in “the day” - the faces of 5-10 year old mixed race females would have been NOWHERE to be seen. Assuming - perhaps making ASSES of ALL of us -
Racism is NO LONGER part of “Birchism” - might the other stuff be “OK” - Discussion? AND - If Not - WHY? -S-
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:35:18pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
You are not in a Post-Apocalyptic mind set. You buy the bullets with the gold, then you take the protein cakes and the gold with the bullets.
Remind me not to invite you into my bunker when the nukes start flying.
/
A neat ’60s post-apocalyptic novel used reconditioned sparkplugs for currency.
(Last Lovers Left Alive, IIRC)
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prairiefire Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:35:31pm |
re: #94 tradewind
(Okay, now I’m really ticked at Safari 5’s update: Now when I click closed a link after reading it from a post, my freaking browser shuts down and closes me out of LGF.
This update (5.0) is sooo screwed. Jobs please fix it now)!
Now returning to regular scheduled programming…
I can’t keep Safari 5 from collapsing since I uploaded it last week. I’ve reported it to Apple about 13 times. Next is getting on the phone, but I need a block of time to do it!
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:35:45pm |
re: #168 Boogberg
It’s always fun to play Gender Jeopardy at LGF.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:35:56pm |
re: #167 albusteve
Oh, you’re totally in. You have to bring your own female, though.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:36:32pm |
re: #171 prairiefire
I can’t keep Safari 5 from collapsing since I uploaded it last week. I’ve reported it to Apple about 13 times. Next is getting on the phone, but I need a block of time to do it!
I loaded it and it immediately crashed…back to Firefox
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engineer cat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:36:32pm |
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:36:42pm |
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:37:16pm |
re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh, you’re totally in. You have to bring your own female, though.
I’m working on an entire herd…stay tuned
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ryannon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:37:34pm |
re: #160 Cato the Elder
A single 5mm nugget of gold can be hammered out into a foil square 0.5 meters on a side. To cover a good-sized dome takes about an ounce.
It’s the most ductile of all metals: you can theoretically hammer it out to a sheet one atom thick.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:38:09pm |
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:38:21pm |
re: #165 Decatur Deb
Wouldn’t announcing that you have a wonderful capacity for self-deprecation automatically preclude you from actually having it?……
Just saying.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:38:54pm |
re: #171 prairiefire
P-Fire -
Are all’y’all MAC or Windows? Am using Firefox 3.6 now - and - have used Safari 5 for “Doze” with No Problems. Que Pasta? -S-
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:39:08pm |
re: #179 ryannon
It’s the most ductile of all metals: you can theoretically hammer it out to a sheet one atom thick.
awww that is nothing… BO’s people can spend 1 dollar 9,000 times.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:39:31pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
You are not in a Post-Apocalyptic mind set. You buy the bullets with the gold, then you take the protein cakes and the gold with the bullets.
Remind me not to invite you into my bunker when the nukes start flying.
/
Nukes? I’m more worried about the zombie uprising.
/
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:39:32pm |
re: #181 tradewind
Wouldn’t announcing that you have a wonderful capacity for self-deprecation automatically preclude you from actually having it?…
Just saying.
I just figured he grew up with a lot of sisters.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:39:38pm |
re: #181 tradewind
Wouldn’t announcing that you have a wonderful capacity for self-deprecation automatically preclude you from actually having it?…
Just saying.
I have a wonderful talent for self-deprecation when talking about my past but not my talents then…
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:39:53pm |
re: #183 brookly red
awww that is nothing… BO’s people can spend 1 dollar 9,000 times.
heh…BO the alchemist!
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:40:06pm |
re: #170 Decatur Deb
A neat ’60s post-apocalyptic novel used reconditioned sparkplugs for currency.
(Last Lovers Left Alive, IIRC)
Its all about caps man.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:40:07pm |
re: #181 tradewind
Na, self-depreciation and humility are totally different.
James never said he didn’t think he was hot shit :)
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:40:07pm |
re: #181 tradewind
Wouldn’t announcing that you have a wonderful capacity for self-deprecation automatically preclude you from actually having it?…
Just saying.
Not at all…so long as you do it very poorly.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:40:14pm |
re: #185 Decatur Deb
I just figured he grew up with a lot of sisters.
Not even close, like I said perfect nuclear family, only one sibling an older brother.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:40:38pm |
re: #171 prairiefire
Oh thank heavens. I thought I was the only one cursed.
And just when I was patting myself on the back yet again for never, ever having any computer glitches since switching to mac……..
I’m thinking about finding out how to uninstall it and go back to 4.whatever. No problems there.
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:40:44pm |
re: #179 ryannon
It’s the most ductile of all metals: you can theoretically hammer it out to a sheet one atom thick.
From a description of the Massachusetts State House dome…
“Gold leaf is just five-millionths of an inch thick — so thin that direct light almost shines through it. It melts when touched; the slightest movement of air will wrinkle it. Despite a canvas scrim draped over the scaffold to cut the wind, a cloud of golden flakes whirled down Beacon Street almost every day until the project was complete. In fact, so much gold leaf blew away that the contractor had to order more in order to complete the project!”
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:41:09pm |
YoungTim is sure taking a long time coming up with a snappy comeback. L’esprit d’escalier, perhaps?
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:41:11pm |
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:41:39pm |
re: #172 tradewind
It’s always fun to play Gender Jeopardy at LGF.
Well why not a gender icon? Maybe a pink border for girls and a blue one for guys.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:41:49pm |
okay…time to go play in traffic for a bit. See you later, alligators.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:41:53pm |
re: #126 Cato the Elder
Gold is completely inert and harmless when ingested.
Gold will form ionic compounds that are used to treat arthritis, and these are not completely harmless. A long time ago I did some work for Immunex on the clinical drug trials for Enbrel, before Amgen bought them. Some of the patients were on “gold salt” injections. Also, there was an episode of House involving poisoning with gold compounds. I’m not sure any substance short of degenerate matter is considered completely inert anymore, this is why the inert gasses were renamed the nobel gases.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:41:54pm |
re: #186 jamesfirecat
I’m just messing with you, James. Misdirected pique at Safari 5.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:07pm |
re: #187 albusteve
heh…BO the alchemist!
Maybe he can clap his hands together and turn one of them into a sword or a gun…
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:08pm |
re: #195 brookly red
we are so fucked when the rent is due.
yup, but nobody will remember the debt when the nukes go off
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:14pm |
re: #184 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Who says we can’t have both?
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:21pm |
re: #194 Cato the Elder
More like le sprint down the scales.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:27pm |
re: #196 Boogberg
The game is more fun, really.
Remember too, half the ‘women’ are probably lying anyways :D
(And that’s being generous, for the rest of the internet its about 98%)
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:30pm |
re: #194 Cato the Elder
Pretty sure Young Tim is currently occupied picking up his teeth with his elbows.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:50pm |
re: #199 tradewind
I’m just messing with you, James. Misdirected pique at Safari 5.
Its okay I wasn’t offended/bothered…
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:42:57pm |
re: #187 albusteve
albusteve -
For what I have seen - this Administration - willingly or not - can turn Gold (Au) - into POOP, like the US/Indian Potential Alliance. The Ultimate Alchemy in My Book. -S-
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:43:02pm |
re: #194 Cato the Elder
YoungTim is sure taking a long time coming up with a snappy comeback. L’esprit d’escalier, perhaps?
why do you even bother, it is not like this is a great discovery of something…
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:43:24pm |
re: #193 CapeCoddah
From a description of the Massachusetts State House dome…
“Gold leaf is just five-millionths of an inch thick — so thin that direct light almost shines through it. It melts when touched; the slightest movement of air will wrinkle it. Despite a canvas scrim draped over the scaffold to cut the wind, a cloud of golden flakes whirled down Beacon Street almost every day until the project was complete. In fact, so much gold leaf blew away that the contractor had to order more in order to complete the project!”
Well gild my lily.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:43:26pm |
re: #200 jamesfirecat
Maybe he can clap his hands together and turn one of them into a sword or a gun…
or a reasonable ME policy?…nah
he’s the eternal dopemeister
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:43:56pm |
re: #198 goddamnedfrank
That’s a cool article actually, from the sound of it the treatment works by (to mix ideas some) beneficial heavy metal poisoning!
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:43:57pm |
re: #196 Boogberg
Oh, I like it when someone yells ’ Duuuuude ’ , clueless. Letting them know later is half the fun.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:44:02pm |
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:44:02pm |
re: #201 albusteve
yup, but nobody will remember the debt when the nukes go off
I wish that was crazy talk, I really do.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:44:04pm |
re: #198 goddamnedfrank
I actually had a friend once who was treated for severe early-onset arthritis with injections like that.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:44:42pm |
Good news from Sharmuta…..
UC Irvine Muslim group faces suspension
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:45:21pm |
re: #206 CapeCoddah
Pretty sure Young Tim is currently occupied picking up his teeth with his elbows.
I think he just went back to lurking under his bridge.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:45:35pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
Good news from Sharmuta…
UC Irvine Muslim group faces suspension
Where is Sharmuta anyways?
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:04pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
Good news from Sharmuta…
UC Irvine Muslim group faces suspension
‘Bout time.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:09pm |
re: #214 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Precisely. What’s the fun of scavenging through the remains of a dead society without a shambling horde to target practice on once in a while.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:10pm |
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:11pm |
re: #215 brookly red
I wish that was crazy talk, I really do.
buckle up amigo…this political scene in the US is child’s play compared to what’s out there
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ryannon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:48pm |
re: #203 ryannon
Great video presentation. Google rulez!
Re:
re: #166 Thanos
Completely ot - I got hooked up with an invite to Google Voice today from a query I made months back - I’ll let you know how it goes.
[Link: noblesseoblige.org…]
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:55pm |
re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Where is Sharmuta anyways?
I think she’s more interested in spiritual matters these days. I don’t really know.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:46:57pm |
re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth
Precisely. What’s the fun of scavenging through the remains of a dead society without a shambling horde to target practice on once in a while.
Problem with those suckers is they run in packs. I do mean run.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:47:02pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:47:08pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
Good news from Sharmuta…
UC Irvine Muslim group faces suspension
Fox had that too. It is indeed good news to see those nasty jerks get punished for disrupting a speech and then lying about their actions. Irvine forecast: Calls of “Help! I’m being Repressed!” mixed with extended seething.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:47:12pm |
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:47:18pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:47:47pm |
re: #227 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Good. Moving targets are far more fun to practice on.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:48:38pm |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
Fox had that too. It is indeed good news to see those nasty jerks get punished for disrupting a speech and then lying about their actions. Irvine forecast: Calls of “Help! I’m being Repressed!” mixed with extended seething.
man I tell you…I always wanted to mix it up with those assholes
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:48:44pm |
re: #224 albusteve
buckle up amigo…this political scene in the US is child’s play compared to what’s out there
yes that is true… I wish we had a respectable leader but it is what it is, many will die.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:49:22pm |
re: #219 Dark_Falcon
I think he just went back to lurking under his bridge.
Or he may have gone back to the circle jerk/stalker blog.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:49:37pm |
re: #194 Cato the Elder
YoungTim is sure taking a long time coming up with a snappy comeback. L’esprit d’escalier, perhaps?
I really don’t get pissed about anything..Except an attack on a lizard that I deem unfair and morally wrong..Then it a flame war..Really..I never get involved in Flame wars.. Maybe once a year when I feel people are unfairly attacked…I respect Charles trying to keep this place Civil…
Tonight..I think Young Tim needs to be smacked down upon any reply at all…
Shut up Young Tim..And keep it shut pal
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:50:04pm |
re: #232 Slumbering Behemoth
Good. Moving targets are far more fun to practice on.
*shudders* My friend, nothing is quite as nerve-wracking as crawling through a nearly pitch-black metro tunnel, hearing the wheezing of those damned things, praying that the wheezing doesn’t turn to screeching and running. Especially when you’ve got a mag and a half of ammo, threadbare armor, and a handful of stimpaks to fall back on.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:50:10pm |
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:50:37pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
That’s a good sign, but their buddies at Santa Cruz will take up the slack./
Wonder if CAIR will file a complaint?
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:50:47pm |
re: #234 brookly red
yes that is true… I wish we had a respectable leader but it is what it is, many will die.
yes, it’s coming and it’s unstoppable…BO has worsened the ME situation, not improved it…flowery tongued rhetoric means little to the principles
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:51:05pm |
re: #238 Dr. Shalit
Annie of course!
I weep for a nation that no longer recognizes Oliver “Daddy” Warbucks :(
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:51:44pm |
re: #234 brookly red
yes that is true… I wish we had a respectable leader but it is what it is, many will die.
Ack, you’re bringing me down man!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:51:48pm |
re: #233 albusteve
man I tell you…I always wanted to mix it up with those assholes
I dunno. Fist fights seem somewhat overrated to me.
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:51:52pm |
re: #205 windsagio
The game is more fun, really.
Remember too, half the ‘women’ are probably lying anyways :D
(And that’s being generous, for the rest of the internet its about 98%)
Yeah you’re probably right. Hell with it.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:52:03pm |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:52:17pm |
re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
*shudders* My friend, nothing is quite as nerve-wracking as crawling through a nearly pitch-black metro tunnel, hearing the wheezing of those damned things, praying that the wheezing doesn’t turn to screeching and running. Especially when you’ve got a mag and a half of ammo, threadbare armor, and a handful of stimpaks to fall back on.
That’s Friday night for an NYC Transit cop.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:52:22pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
Good news from Sharmuta…
UC Irvine Muslim group faces suspension
When the heck is that smurfette coming back - we need her.
BTW some of the comments for that article are vile beyond belief.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:52:26pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:52:57pm |
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:53:39pm |
re: #247 Spare O’Lake
When the heck is that smurfette coming back - we need her.
BTW some of the comments for that article are vile beyond belief.
Yahoo comments the pits :(
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:54:01pm |
re: #243 Dark_Falcon
I dunno. Fist fights seem somewhat overrated to me.
I enjoyed them….they scratch and claw and bruise me while I break their noses and rupture their spleens…..but I don’t want to get carried away here
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:54:39pm |
re: #250 marjoriemoon
I have a friend that goes around reading yahoo news stories in general and linking people the various hilarious/awful comments.
Generally on less serious issues tho’.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:55:15pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:55:31pm |
David Duke’s Stormfront goes to bat for Crazy Pam….
PayPal.com Targets Conservative Blog as ‘Hate’ Site (via google)
Sample comments….
Regardless of Pamela Geller’s own religion/ethnicity, the fact remains is that Paypal is going after right wing sites, while letting Marxist/anti-white sites like One Primate’s Project, $PLC and Wonkette slide.
….
Paypal is owned and operated by Jews, same with Facebook, ICQ, etc.; their opinionated restrictions are simply an extension of typical Jew racism.
….
In light of what Geller is, do we need to morn the fact that a rabid jewess is made to “work” a bit harder to get money for neo-Cohens?I see the slippery-slope problem with what PayPal has done (as Traditional American has pointed out). But in itself, I applaud their move.
….
No disagreement on your second point there, but jew-run sites, like those of neoCohen nominal Whites, don’t normally qualify as right-wing in my book, because Israel’s always a prominent down-on-your-knees factor. Then again, I subscribe to the Revilo Oliver school of right-wing theory.I had mentioned this political exclusion scheme to a friend, and was notified that he received a hardcore XXX site’s sleaze-mail that got past his mail filter, which contained a Paypal button for “donations”. Apparently, porn sites are welcome there, while un-PC ones just can’t be “tolerated”.
…
Pay pAl is anti white. Why give a jew middle man a cut? Why? Pay by cheque.
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:56:18pm |
re: #245 Dr. Shalit
Revise and Extend -
“Basement People” is a term previously used by younger Assimilated to Europe young Muslims about their PARENTS - like “DUH!” -S-
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:56:53pm |
re: #255 Boogberg
I choose to err on the side of caution when it comes to such things. That might be SFW in some places, but not others.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:56:56pm |
re: #253 windsagio
I have a friend that goes around reading yahoo news stories in general and linking people the various hilarious/awful comments.
Generally on less serious issues tho’.
Some of that stuff I just can’t read. It tips the blood pressure. Your friend has thicker skin than I! I save my political battles for LGF :) (lucky lizards)
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Randall Gross Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:57:24pm |
re: #256 Killgore Trout
David Duke’s Stormfront goes to bat for Crazy Pam…
PayPal.com Targets Conservative Blog as ‘Hate’ Site (via google)
Sample comments…
The dissonance in that Geller’s mind could fill a galaxy with noise.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:57:40pm |
re: #259 marjoriemoon
She likes reading the relationship ones.
To be honest I don’t know how she handles it either.
Same person likes Craigslist personals tho’, so it might be a personality flaw :D
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:58:42pm |
re: #254 brookly red
re: #242 marjoriemoon
we will have to play the hand we were dealt… I just hope that the shit goes down sooner than later while we still have the ways and means to deal whit it.
the US and Israel certainly have the means to deal with it…not the conviction tho…one moment of doubt, and you are whipped
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:59:12pm |
re: #256 Killgore Trout
David Duke’s Stormfront goes to bat for Crazy Pam…
PayPal.com Targets Conservative Blog as ‘Hate’ Site (via google)
Sample comments…
Jeez.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:59:13pm |
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:01:04pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:01:47pm |
re: #264 austin_blue
Jeez.
Yeah, She’s generally supportive of neonazis and white supremacists so they see her as advancing thier agenda. Like Philip Dewinter and other EuroNazis, they are willing to overlook the fact that she’s Jewish. It gives them cover.
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avanti Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:02:53pm |
New ground zero scandal, someone may have ties to the evil Arabs./
“Company Bidding to Help Manage Ground Zero Tower Has Arab Ties
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Nearly nine years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the bi-state agency that operates the World Trade Center is looking for a private partner to help manage the 1,776-foot office tower that is being built at Ground Zero — and one of two companies under consideration may have ties to the Middle East.
The bidding process for private partners for the “Freedom Tower” has been whittled down to two companies: Durst Organization and Related Companies, Fox News legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr. reports.
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey will soon decide which partner will manage and help market the tower, which has been renamed One World Trade Center. The partner will invest at least $100 million into the office tower and memorial building.
Related Cos. is an international real estate group whose investors include Goldman Sachs; MSD Capital, LP; Mubadala Development Co.; Kuwait Investment Authority; and Olayan Group, according to the company’s website.
Mubadala Development Co. is owned by the Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, government.
So one investor in the group is tied to a moderate Arab country, man the barricades I guess.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:03:50pm |
re: #269 avanti
Hard choice; holding back the islamic horde, or protecting free enterprise!
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:04:08pm |
Interesting Op Ed in today’s NYT by Shrub’s former Ethics lawyer. Who knew that Reagan first set up the “White House Office of Political Affairs”?
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:04:53pm |
re: #263 albusteve
the US and Israel certainly have the means to deal with it…not the conviction tho…one moment of doubt, and you are whipped
we at this point are not ready to do what needs to be done and our enemies know it too. And don’t think for one moment that when Iran makes it’s move China will not follow. We are governed by castrado .
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:05:20pm |
re: #252 YoungTim
I don’t give a fuck if you have been registered here for a million years..
You came here and your best response was to tell a young lady to go fuck herself.. That’s the best you got pal?
You have no idea what you just walked into.. And since you think I just post douche posts.. Link one bitch.. You pathetic piece of Shit..
/Sorry to say that on your blog Charles…
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Randall Gross Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:05:56pm |
OT: Al Aqsa is claiming the deadly attack on the Israeli police earlier as “revenge for the flotilla”
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:06:07pm |
re: #266 windsagio
Cowboy logic :)
you differ?…spill it…I say the US and Israel can deal with our enemies and you call it cowboy logic…why?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:06:13pm |
re: #270 windsagio
Hard choice; holding back the islamic horde, or protecting free enterprise!
It would help the situation if President Obama, or some representative on his (maybe Holder) weighed in on this and made a public statement on how there is nothing wrong with having this community center in this location.
Some positive nod from Washington would help a lot.
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:06:58pm |
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Boogberg Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:07:13pm |
re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth
I choose to err on the side of caution when it comes to such things. That might be SFW in some places, but not others.
I see now. Those where boobs. I thought they were knees or something. :D
Totally acceptable where I work. No girls ever see the monitor on my machine though. Well one does. I’ve worked with her for 12 years. She never says a word.
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:07:33pm |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
Yeah, She’s generally supportive of neonazis and white supremacists so they see her as advancing thier agenda. Like Philip Dewinter and other EuroNazis, they are willing to overlook the fact that she’s Jewish. It gives them cover.
Yeah, but a comment like this-
“In light of what Geller is, do we need to morn (sic) the fact that a rabid jewess is made to “work” a bit harder to get money for neo-Cohens?
I see the slippery-slope problem with what PayPal has done (as Traditional American has pointed out). But in itself, I applaud their move.”
would tend to make me rethink my alliances. That is some serious batshit ca-ca-ca-crazy.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:07:33pm |
re: #276 albusteve
I actually meant to quote part of it, but had a tag snafu, sorry :(
not the conviction tho…one moment of doubt, and you are whipped
That part.
They certainly have the ability to stop a nuclear program, but there are serious questions of whether it would be worth the cost.
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:08:13pm |
re: #271 austin_blue
Interesting Op Ed in today’s NYT by Shrub’s former Ethics lawyer. Who knew that Reagan first set up the “White House Office of Political Affairs”?
Oops, a link would be nice:
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:08:21pm |
re: #277 Walter L. Newton
It would help the situation if President Obama, or some representative on his (maybe Holder) weighed in on this and made a public statement on how there is nothing wrong with having this community center in this location.
Some positive nod from Washington would help a lot.
not their domain…they are too busy stealing the economy, all else goes over their heads…a disaster waiting
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:08:22pm |
re: #277 Walter L. Newton
It would help the situation if President Obama, or some representative on his (maybe Holder) weighed in on this and made a public statement on how there is nothing wrong with having this community center in this location.
Some positive nod from Washington would help a lot.
we in NY respectfully ask Washington to STFU. Thankyou.
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:08:58pm |
re: #269 avanti
U.S. Company Occidental Petroleum in Bahrain
On June 30, Ambassador Ereli met with the local representative of U.S. oil company Occidental Petroleum to discuss the company’s bid on a natural gas recovery project in Bahrain. Occidental Petroleum is one of two companies bidding on the project, and the winner of the tender will be announced later this year.
In April, Occidental signed a production sharing agreement with Abu Dhabi-based Mubadala Development and the Bahraini National Oil and Gas Authority. The deal will result in more than $1.5 billion of investment in Bahrain and create a joint operating company that is aiming to double Bahrain’s oil output to approximately 100,000 barrels per day.
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avanti Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:09:02pm |
re: #277 Walter L. Newton
It would help the situation if President Obama, or some representative on his (maybe Holder) weighed in on this and made a public statement on how there is nothing wrong with having this community center in this location.
Some positive nod from Washington would help a lot.
Walter, my post was about investors willing to fund the new towers, not the center.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:09:07pm |
re: #277 Walter L. Newton
That’s my main complaint about Obama really.
I think he was actually a bit overwhelmed by how crazy Washington actually is at that level (the experience argument), and is still a little spooked about being properly forceful.
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:09:32pm |
re: #252 YoungTim
yes, I’ve been registered for 2 years and an everyday reader for more than 5 years now, I just don’t comment on blogs that often… I can’t remember why… oh yeah, it’s the constant douchebaggery by people like Cape Coddah and Hoosier. I swear to whatever’s worth anything that I’m not a troll, or a bircher or whatever. And I really don’t understand why linking to a good site with background on the Birchers is an “unnatural act,” but that’s cool. I swear, when I googled John Birch Society and Racism together (you know, to find out for myself rather than just taking peoples word for it) I got a bunch of links all mentioning that they’re racist, but none citing anything to back that up. Yes I could spend a ton of time researching it further, but I just figured someone in here might have something quicker for me. I know I’m the worst person ever. Even if I was a troll, wouldn’t ignoring me be so much faster than showing off how cool you are by just insulting me? Never fear, I’ve relearned my lesson about commenting in here. Normally when the haters talk ill of Charles they’re pulling it out of their asses, but when they note what an insufferable bunch of jackasses his readers are, they’ve hit the nail on the head, I’m afraid. It’s cool now, I’m going back to work, Hoosier and Coddah, you can restart your circle jerk now.
If you have been an “Every day” reader here, you would have all the info you need on the Birchers. You are so full of shit, you’re breath stinks.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:09:44pm |
re: #252 YoungTim
Boo hiss…
You don’t have to go any farther than the top of this page at tag “John Birch Society” to see what they’re all about, but you have your own agenda.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
And before you go dissing prominent posters here, we actually have diversity of opinion. You want an echo chamber, then go to another blog. There’s plenty to chose from.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:10:14pm |
re: #289 windsagio
That’s my main complaint about Obama really.
I think he was actually a bit overwhelmed by how crazy Washington actually is at that level (the experience argument), and is still a little spooked about being properly forceful.
and by that he endangers us all.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:10:47pm |
re: #282 windsagio
I actually meant to quote part of it, but had a tag snafu, sorry :(
That part.
They certainly have the ability to stop a nuclear program, but there are serious questions of whether it would be worth the cost.
what about the cost when Iran or the Norks off a warhead to the bad guys?…there are historical events that you might review
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:11:45pm |
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avanti Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:12:13pm |
re: #287 Gus 802
Yep, investment companies are multinational, to exclude any company from funding the new towers because they have some Arab oil money involved may not work.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:12:42pm |
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:12:57pm |
re: #277 Walter L. Newton
It would help the situation if President Obama, or some representative on his (maybe Holder) weighed in on this and made a public statement on how there is nothing wrong with having this community center in this location.
Some positive nod from Washington would help a lot.
If he did for better or worse you bet their would end up being a brand new round of “Obama is a Muslim!” rumors going around seeing how he would be standing up for “his own” rather than us “real” Americans….
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:13:46pm |
re: #298 jamesfirecat
If he did for better or worse you bet their would end up being a brand new round of “Obama is a Muslim!” rumors going around seeing how he would be standing up for “his own” rather than us “real” Americans…
I hope that wouldn’t ever happen.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:14:18pm |
re: #298 jamesfirecat
If he did for better or worse you bet their would end up being a brand new round of “Obama is a Muslim!” rumors going around seeing how he would be standing up for “his own” rather than us “real” Americans…
too bad, why is he so reticent? for political image reasons?
fuck BO then….he’s too wimpy to take a stand
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:14:22pm |
re: #252 YoungTim
After reading all that hate for folks here with whom you’ve never bothered to engage in “conversation” all two years you’ve been here -
I’m suspecting YoungTim is perhaps the long-dormang sock of a flouncer.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:14:34pm |
re: #301 reine.de.tout
After reading all that hate for folks here with whom you’ve never bothered to engage in “conversation” all two years you’ve been here -
I’m suspecting YoungTim is perhaps the long-dormangDORMANT sock of a flouncer.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:15:09pm |
re: #293 albusteve
what about the cost when Iran or the Norks off a warhead to the bad guys?…there are historical events that you might review
we are bent over the rest is logical… I hope we survive till 2012.
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elektramourns Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:15:25pm |
I remember their signs calling for the impeachment of earl warren….probably some still around, probably faded now, on Southern backroads.
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:15:33pm |
re: #295 avanti
Yep, investment companies are multinational, to exclude any company from funding the new towers because they have some Arab oil money involved may not work.
There’s a lot of throbbing heads out there that’s for sure. One of the most important factors in planning for a new WTC is that it meets current and projected office lease space requirements and there is a return on the investment. That is, not to throw money on a structure that provide lease space artificially inflated against fair market value in NYC.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:16:10pm |
re: #303 brookly red
we are bent over the rest is logical… I hope we survive till 2012.
yeah, notice there was no response from the peace pussies?
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:17:12pm |
re: #305 elektramourns
Well, hell, that’s probably the only sensible thing I’ve heard them promote……
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:17:36pm |
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Summer Seale Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:18:09pm |
To YoungTim:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
The society opposed aspects of the civil rights movement in the 1960s because of its concerns that the movement had communists in important positions. The society opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, saying it was in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped the rights of individual states to enact laws regarding civil rights. The society is against “one world government”, and has an immigration reduction view on immigration reform. It opposes the United Nations, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), and other free trade agreements. The society argues that there is a devaluing of the U.S. Constitution in favor of political and economic globalization, and that this trend is not an accident. It cites the existence of the Security and Prosperity Partnership as evidence of a push towards a North American Union.[9]
It has been described as “ultraconservative”,[10] “far right”,[11] and “extremist”.[12] The Southern Poverty Law Center, lists the society as a “Patriot’ Group”. Its definition of patriot groups includes: “Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the ‘New World Order’ or advocate or adhere to extreme antigovernment doctrines”.[13]
And…
Antisemitic, racist, anti-Mormon, anti-Masonic, and religious groups criticized the group’s acceptance of Jews, non-whites, Masons, and Mormons (Ezra Taft Benson, a leader in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, encouraged people to join it). These groups accused Welch of harboring feminist, ecumenical, and evolutionary ideas.[20][21][22] Ayn Rand said in a Playboy interview that “What is wrong with them is that they don’t seem to have any specific, clearly defined political philosophy… I consider the Birch Society futile, because they are not for Capitalism but merely against Communism.”[23][24]
And…
Mainstream Republicans, such as William F. Buckley, Jr. and Russell Kirk, grew increasingly unhappy with the society after Welch circulated a letter calling President Dwight D. Eisenhower a possible “conscious, dedicated agent of the Communist Conspiracy.”[27] The controversial paragraph was removed before final publication of The Politician.[28] Welch also wrote that President Franklin D. Roosevelt knew about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in advance, but said nothing because he wanted to get the U.S. involved in World War II.[29]
The sensationalism of Welch’s charges against Eisenhower prompted several conservatives and Republicans, most prominently Goldwater and the intellectuals of Buckley’s circle, to renounce outright or quietly shun the group.[27] Buckley, an early friend and admirer of Welch, regarded his accusations against Eisenhower as “paranoid and idiotic libels” and attempted unsuccessfully to purge Welch from the society.[27] Welch responded by attempting to take over Young Americans for Freedom, a conservative youth organization founded with assistance from Buckley.[citation needed]
I didn’t have to go far to find that. Also, it’s fairly well known as a major historical point in the history of the Republican party (Buckley’s fight with the JBS). I didn’t know that people who read about politics were not aware of this fact. A lot of people, such as myself, did not agree with Buckley on many issues, but we still see what he did to kick out the JBS as a good thing.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:18:12pm |
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:19:02pm |
re: #289 windsagio
I’m more afraid that Obama finds himself surprised and dismayed at how different occupying the WH is from running for it.
And he’s much better suited for the latter.
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OldnGrumpy Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:19:08pm |
Of course y’all know this reminds me of a song by that great American,Charlie Daniels
“I’m a faithful follower of brother John Birch and a member of the Antioch Baptist Church and I ain’t ever got a garage,you can call home and ask my wife”
-C.Daniels
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:19:09pm |
re: #306 Gus 802
There’s a lot of throbbing heads out there that’s for sure. One of the most important factors in planning for a new WTC is that it meets current and projected office lease space requirements and there is a return on the investment. That is, not to throw money on a structure that provide lease space artificially inflated against fair market value in NYC.
we should have rebuilt the Twin Towers, only new and improved, and even taller but the same thing, same color…I don’t like what’s happening now
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:19:17pm |
Huge storms in Indiana.. I just came back from a black out..And the next wave is promising flash floods in the next hour..
keep Hoosiers in your prayers tonight lizards…It looks bad so far
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:19:32pm |
If you have the right kind of panelling in your bathroom you can join the
Birch John Society.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:19:41pm |
re: #307 albusteve
yeah, notice there was no response from the peace pussies?
Iran is now challenging Israel, NK is now challenging the South. China is eying Taiwan and all because they smell weakness. Many will die.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:20:28pm |
re: #313 tradewind
I think even most of us on the left were a little worried about the ‘experience’ issue, and that’s what we’re seeing here.
He’s still (imo) doing a substantially better job than the last 2 presidents did (I have a soft spot in my heart for Bush I tho’)
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:20:29pm |
re: #316 HoosierHoops
Be well, Hoopster!
*waves at Lizards*
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:20:43pm |
re: #303 brookly red
we are bent over the rest is logical… I hope we survive till 2012.
If you can ever dig up a copy, you should try playing Shattered Union. Came out in 2005, and it’s apparently Michael Bay’s trying to get a film version put together.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:21:03pm |
re: #311 windsagio
re: #307 albusteve
Well lets try this a different way.
Why do Israel and the US lack the will, if that’s the only safe way out? They preumably know a ton more about the Iranian/N.korean nuclear programs than we do. If its as dire as that, why won’t they act?
good question, ask Washington.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:21:18pm |
re: #311 windsagio
re: #307 albusteve
Well lets try this a different way.
Why do Israel and the US lack the will, if that’s the only safe way out? They preumably know a ton more about the Iranian/N.korean nuclear programs than we do. If its as dire as that, why won’t they act?
BO is a coward, that’s why…..people like that get innocent folks killed….he’s all about politics and has no internal truth…..he lives in a fantasy world, just like you
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:22:19pm |
re: #320 Floral Giraffe
Be well, Hoopster!
*waves at Lizards*
You would not believe how much rain is falling right now..
Winston and I are boarding the Arc…Hope we have broadband!
*waves*
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:22:21pm |
re: #315 albusteve
we should have rebuilt the Twin Towers, only new and improved, and even taller but the same thing, same color…I don’t like what’s happening now
A project of this magnitude always comes with a great deal of political baggage. However, with regards to the WTC that’s been amplified by several factors. The main one being that there are too many people that seem to think they’re entitled to have a say as to who, what, where, when, and how goes up as a replacement. Just Get-R-Done.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:22:26pm |
re: #318 brookly red
The ugly truth is that we can’t defend Taiwan no matter what, and China knows it.
The various wars we’re currently in certainly don’t help, of course.
In an interesting note, my Brother In-law is Taiwanese, and many of them are firmly convinced that China is after Japan and (what used to be called) Indo-China as well.
Could be the old hostilities tho’.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:22:30pm |
re: #287 Gus 802
Ahh, good ole’ Oxy… the big oil that gave Big Al his start.
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:22:43pm |
re: #318 brookly red
Yeah they smell weakness.
This moronic new age reset button zero nuclear arms stuff is just nuts.
We will all pay
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:23:53pm |
re: #316 HoosierHoops
Hang in there, best wishes from SoCal!!
Pull the plug on your appliances in case of a power spike.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:02pm |
re: #326 windsagio
The ugly truth is that we can’t defend Taiwan no matter what, and China knows it.
The various wars we’re currently in certainly don’t help, of course.
In an interesting note, my Brother In-law is Taiwanese, and many of them are firmly convinced that China is after Japan and (what used to be called) Indo-China as well.
Could be the old hostilities tho’.
so what our answer is to disarm. real f’n smart.
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OldnGrumpy Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:06pm |
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:11pm |
re: #324 HoosierHoops
You would not believe how much rain is falling right now..
Winston and I are boarding the Arc…Hope we have broadband!
*waves*
Wear a lifejacket! You be safe, Hoosier.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:12pm |
re: #322 brookly red
I can tell you my logic, its too late for North Korea anyways, and with Iran my guess is that they know the only thing that’ll stabilize the Islamic government now is an attack from the US or Israel.
The side question is: “Is the secular military dictatorship that’s next up in Iran better than the Mullahs?”
I admit I think “yes” ;)
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:23pm |
re: #256 Killgore Trout
David Duke’s Stormfront goes to bat for Crazy Pam…
PayPal.com Targets Conservative Blog as ‘Hate’ Site (via google)
Sample comments…
There is bad craziness in the comments for AP articles. Why go to Stormfront for your daily dose of douchery?
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:26pm |
re: #319 windsagio
He’s still (imo) doing a substantially better job than the last 2 presidents did (I have a soft spot in my heart for Bush I tho’)
As long as nothing big happens I think we will probably be OK.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:24:56pm |
re: #325 Gus 802
A project of this magnitude always comes with a great deal of political baggage. However, with regards to the WTC that’s been amplified by several factors. The main one being that there are too many people that seem to think they’re entitled to have a say as to who, what, where, when, and how goes up as a replacement. Just Get-R-Done.
yes, show some spirit, some can do bravado….make it happen whatever it is
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:25:12pm |
re: #328 Ojoe
Is anyone in our government suggesting real full disarmament (Aka not in a long-future time)? I missed that one too :)
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:25:16pm |
re: #292 brookly red
and by that he endangers us all.
I don’t think so. He has stuck to his rather pragmatic guns in his first year and a half in office. Bush’s bailout was necessary but poorly structured. The stimulus package kept the economy from falling off a cliff. He has tried to let the Senate and Congress legislate (it’s their job, after all) and has only stepped in when they are gridlocked (see healthcare reform). And no one can reasonably blame his Admin for BP. That was a license that was approved two months after he took office and the R’s were doing their damndest to buffalo his appointments.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:25:42pm |
re: #326 windsagio
The ugly truth is that we can’t defend Taiwan no matter what, and China knows it.
The various wars we’re currently in certainly don’t help, of course.
In an interesting note, my Brother In-law is Taiwanese, and many of them are firmly convinced that China is after Japan and (what used to be called) Indo-China as well.
Could be the old hostilities tho’.
why’s that?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:25:43pm |
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:25:59pm |
re: #336 Ojoe
I don’t want anything bad to happen of course, but I think that would bring the best out in the guy.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:27:02pm |
re: #274 HoosierHoops
Don’t get in the mud to wrestle with a pig. You make yourself dirty, and the pig enjoys it.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:27:02pm |
re: #340 albusteve
The PRC army/airforce would totally annihilate our forces in the region even without nukes, mainly.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:27:08pm |
re: #339 austin_blue
I don’t think so. He has stuck to his rather pragmatic guns in his first year and a half in office. Bush’s bailout was necessary but poorly structured. The stimulus package kept the economy from falling off a cliff. He has tried to let the Senate and Congress legislate (it’s their job, after all) and has only stepped in when they are gridlocked (see healthcare reform). And no one can reasonably blame his Admin for BP. That was a license that was approved two months after he took office and the R’s were doing their damndest to buffalo his appointments.
blah blah blah… do we have the way and means to fight the fights on the horizon? no.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:27:20pm |
re: #319 windsagio
In what way is he doing a better job?
Complaining that he has a heavy load? (Am I supposed to suck it up with a straw) Carrying on the policies of the last administration while bashing them at the same time? ( Gitmo, Iraq) Getting his candidates elected in tight races (He’s dismal, there).
I really don’t understand that line of thought.
He has managed to sneak in more rounds of golf than the previous two, I’ll grant you that.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:27:33pm |
re: #345 brookly red
Lol, I woudln’t bring that up, there’s too good a canned response :D
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:28:02pm |
re: #338 windsagio
IIRC there were campaign (shiny) promises as to that as a goal by BHO.
Many votes were garnered by such statements, in my geographical area at least (Northern California).
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:28:24pm |
re: #347 windsagio
Lol, I woudln’t bring that up, there’s too good a canned response :D
too late I did. Open your can.
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:28:48pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
Good news from Sharmuta…
UC Irvine Muslim group faces suspension
Sweeet! Freedom of speech is not freedom to disrupt. Pass along a Hello to Sharmuta for me would you please?
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:29:25pm |
re: #342 windsagio
I think that would bring the best out in the guy.
It might not be good enough is my worry.
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:29:46pm |
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:29:48pm |
re: #346 tradewind
You put me in a tough place, because I can’t defend my position well without bashing the hell out of Bush, and nobody wants that.
Short answer: Clinton essentially coasted on a strong economy, and Bush made things substantially worse. Obama is having a hard time, but at least he’s making progress fixing the systemic problems that his predecessors ignored.
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avanti Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:30:07pm |
re: #335 Alouette
There is bad craziness in the comments for AP articles. Why go to Stormfront for your daily dose of douchery?
Yep, they got to the root of the issue, PayPal is run by Jews, so they shut down hate sites about Muslims /
“Paypal is owned and operated by Jews, same with Facebook, ICQ, etc.; their opinionated restrictions are simply an extension of typical Jew racism. “
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:30:34pm |
re: #351 Ojoe
It might not be good enough is my worry.
but there will never be a more hopeful surrender speech ever.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:30:37pm |
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:31:51pm |
re: #348 Ojoe
Don’t remember that, but yeah if he said that that would be foolish.
I remember him advocating substantial cutbacks, and that’s only sensible.
… But inbetween my other projects here I”ll look it up in the next few minutes :D
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:31:58pm |
re: #330 Rightwingconspirator
Hang in there, best wishes from SoCal!!
Pull the plug on your appliances in case of a power spike.
The shit is going to hit the fan here at 8:45pm…All the stations are tracking this storm…The last wave rocked the house and knocked out the power for awhile…
I’m shutting everything down in 10 minutes…I can’t afford to buy another 73” Samsung..Wink
Be back later lizards…Keep those souls that maybe in trouble tonight in your prayers….There is a serious storm brewing…
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sandbox Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:32:11pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:32:27pm |
re: #283 CapeCoddah
Young Tim needs a cookie.
Yeah, he needs a martyr cookie shoved up his backside.
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:32:35pm |
re: #356 windsagio
6 words then:
“Unnecessary Iraq invasion sapping our military”
and how would ground forces affect Taiwan? not much I think.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:33:31pm |
re: #344 windsagio
The PRC army/airforce would totally annihilate our forces in the region even without nukes, mainly.
how so?…are you saying the PRC is better than our air forces?….should we do something about that or sit back and watch Taiwan swarmed over?…then what about the Norks?…is Taiwan and SK our friends or not?…your answer is too simplisitic
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:34:09pm |
re: #345 brookly red
blah blah blah… do we have the way and means to fight the fights on the horizon? no.
Again, I’ll disagree. We certainly have the means. My biggest fear is that a weapon, be it a dirty bomb or a crude nuke, is loaded onto a container in Kuala Lumpur or Djakarta and sent to Long Beach. Port security should be job one, and it should happen with significant cooperation between Customs and foreign port facilities. Think forward defense.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:34:44pm |
Shutting down..Here comes the storm…See you folks later
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:35:24pm |
re: #346 tradewind
In what way is he doing a better job?
Complaining that he has a heavy load? (Am I supposed to suck it up with a straw) Carrying on the policies of the last administration while bashing them at the same time? ( Gitmo, Iraq) Getting his candidates elected in tight races (He’s dismal, there).
I really don’t understand that line of thought.
He has managed to sneak in more rounds of golf than the previous two, I’ll grant you that.
BO is a bust so far…no getting around it, but his droolers can’t deal with the facts. they need to make stuff up and blame Bush
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:35:42pm |
re: #364 austin_blue
Again, I’ll disagree. We certainly have the means. My biggest fear is that a weapon, be it a dirty bomb or a crude nuke, is loaded onto a container in Kuala Lumpur or Djakarta and sent to Long Beach. Port security should be job one, and it should happen with significant cooperation between Customs and foreign port facilities. Think forward defense.
so what part of unprepared do you not understand? we are asking for it on so many levels.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:36:19pm |
re: #352 Gus 802
You know I like the idea of building the exact same design as the previous Twin Towers only utilizing a different structural design. Make it look exactly as it was.
yup….is it too late?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:36:37pm |
re: #359 sandbox
Seems reasonable enough:
Barcelona plans to be the first large city in Spain to ban the use of the full-face Islamic veil in public buildings, its mayor announced Monday.Jordi Hereu said he will sign a decree which will apply in all public spaces such as the city hall and municipal covered markets and creches.
“It should not be possible that someone enters into a place without being identified,” the Socialist mayor said.
He said the measure is not aimed at “any particular religious group” and would also apply to people wearing crash helmets and balaclavas.
Wait, what? A Socialist mayor is pushing this. Unpossible.
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:36:52pm |
re: #359 sandbox
more good news
[Link: www.expatica.com…]
Barcelona Plans to Ban the Veil
I’ve got no problem with Hijab. Nuns wear them. I’ve got real problems with Religious Halloween Masks. I want to know what the person I’m looking at looks like.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:36:56pm |
re: #325 Gus 802
They are getting done. Slowly, but it’s getting done. 1WTC (Freedom Tower) is underway; 4WTC is underway; the 9/11 memorial/museum are on pace to be open by next year; and the transit hub is also underway.
What gets people confused is that much of the site work is at or below street level - so you don’t see much of the work until they finish.
[Link: www.panynj.gov…]
That said, much of the delay was the result of the Port Authority dragging its feet and then picking a really awful master plan from a neophyte who had no experience with such size projects. Following that mess, SOM ended up designing the Freedom Tower, and they got a bunch of top class architects to design the other structures, including the transit hub.
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:36:57pm |
re: #366 albusteve
Just the fact that Obama went on with a one year shouting match over health care when 10 % are out of work, is dereliction of duty and compassion if you ask me.
BBL
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:37:00pm |
re: #361 brookly red
Your statement of ‘whether we have the means to fight the fights on the horizon’, and that’s way more than just Taiwan.
The canned response relates to the way that Iraq has seriously strained our military apparatus.
The PRC/ROC problem has more to do with the sheer size of the PRC military and how close it is to them, and far from us.
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:37:38pm |
re: #364 austin_blue
Think forward defense.
Did you see last night’s 60 Minutes piece on the danger of hackers bringing down the nation’s infrastructure? Why bother with a bomb when a $200 Netbook does the job just as well? o_O
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Gus Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:38:28pm |
re: #368 albusteve
yup…is it too late?
Yep. Freedom Tower or whatever the current name is. Architects: Skidmore, Owings and Merrill.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:38:46pm |
re: #353 windsagio
You put me in a tough place, because I can’t defend my position well without bashing the hell out of Bush, and nobody wants that.
Short answer: Clinton essentially coasted on a strong economy, and Bush made things substantially worse. Obama is having a hard time, but at least he’s making progress fixing the systemic problems that his predecessors ignored.
show me the growth and employment stats under Bush….your claim that he made things worse is dubious….I think you are referring to BO, Schumer, Pelosi, Frank and Reid…go look at the numbers dumb ass
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:38:59pm |
re: #363 albusteve
how so?…are you saying the PRC is better than our air forces?…should we do something about that or sit back and watch Taiwan swarmed over?…then what about the Norks?…is Taiwan and SK our friends or not?…your answer is too simplisitic
Given China’s increasing capabilities, we’d be best off pushing Taiwan to accept reunification. China’s air force is getting better quickly and their latest fighters are a near match for the F-15. Given another 10-15 years, China may be strong for us to stop them. We need to start figuring out how to reduce fracture points in our relationship with China, or we need a major increase in naval spending that doesn’t seem to be in the cards right now.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:39:57pm |
re: #361 brookly red
and how would ground forces affect Taiwan? not much I think.
he’s a dope…some kid
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:40:02pm |
re: #372 Ojoe
Just the fact that Obama went on with a one year shouting match over health care when 10 % are out of work, is dereliction of duty and compassion if you ask me.
BBL
So you’re saying that Obama needed to be hard at work spending more government money and passing a stimulus?
And you’d be good with him spending more money to do a second stimulus now?
Or did you have some other plan for how Obama could make jobs?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:40:06pm |
re: #370 austin_blue
I’ve got no problem with Hijab. Nuns wear them. I’ve got real problems with Religious Halloween Masks. I want to know what the person I’m looking at looks like.
I’m also fine with headscarves but veils are entirely another matter.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:40:40pm |
re: #363 albusteve
The problem is that the PRC AF/navy is Substantially larger than the 7th Fleet, and the 7th Fleet has duties in S.Korea and Japan as well.
Korea we can do something about, Taiwan, not so much.
This would come as no surprise to the people in the ROC btw… They know their situation well.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:40:46pm |
re: #364 austin_blue
Again, I’ll disagree. We certainly have the means. My biggest fear is that a weapon, be it a dirty bomb or a crude nuke, is loaded onto a container in Kuala Lumpur or Djakarta and sent to Long Beach. Port security should be job one, and it should happen with significant cooperation between Customs and foreign port facilities. Think forward defense.
we are trying to
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:40:51pm |
re: #367 brookly red
so what part of unprepared do you not understand? we are asking for it on so many levels.
The Prexy cannot appropriate money. That is for Congress and the Senate. What part of funding don’t you understand? It would require tax increases or cuts in military spending.
You choose.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:41:55pm |
re: #375 Gus 802
Yep. Freedom Tower or whatever the current name is. Architects: Skidmore, Owings and Merrill.
well make it count then…somehow
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:42:16pm |
re: #370 austin_blue
I’ve got no problem with Hijab. Nuns wear them. I’ve got real problems with Religious Halloween Masks. I want to know what the person I’m looking at looks like.
funny but today I was just noticing that a bunch of women who are not even Muslim ( I recognized them by the gang tattoos on their hands) were in my local supermarket stuffing all kinds of meat under their burkas… odd that a proper Muslim woman would steal pork… but hey who am I to judge.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:43:21pm |
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brookly red Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:43:35pm |
re: #373 windsagio
Your statement of ‘whether we have the means to fight the fights on the horizon’, and that’s way more than just Taiwan.
The canned response relates to the way that Iraq has seriously strained our military apparatus.
The PRC/ROC problem has more to do with the sheer size of the PRC military and how close it is to them, and far from us.
well maybe not if we want to move on Iran we already have assets in place now don’t we ?
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:43:38pm |
re: #377 Dark_Falcon
Given China’s increasing capabilities, we’d be best off pushing Taiwan to accept reunification. China’s air force is getting better quickly and their latest fighters are a near match for the F-15. Given another 10-15 years, China may be strong for us to stop them. We need to start figuring out how to reduce fracture points in our relationship with China, or we need a major increase in naval spending that doesn’t seem to be in the cards right now.
then we better hitch it up for the fight….folding into the sphere of the RC is not an option
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:43:47pm |
re: #375 Gus 802
It’s 1WTC, but many are still referring to it as Freedom Tower.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:44:42pm |
re: #381 windsagio
I’m done with you….you refuse to use the quote button
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:44:47pm |
re: #380 Dark_Falcon
I’m also fine with headscarves but veils are entirely another matter.
Why?
We tolerate skullcaps, crosses on chains/jewelry, Mormon with underwear printed with Masonic and arcane symbols, priests in garments that are a cross between ancient Romans and the Jewish priests and scribes, pagans in all sorts of garb, Mormons in blue suits, Scientologists in cod navy gear, Amish woman with head scarves, furries with… well fur, Mormons with backpacks… I could go on…
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:45:23pm |
re: #353 windsagio
I can’t defend my position well without bashing the hell out of Bush
…. and that’s Obama’s problem, as well.
Any action he has taken to correct a situation, as you put it, was forced upon him. He would have been perfectly happy to ignore the same things as his predecessors,if his attitude toward such things as DADT, the ME, and our immigration
dilemma is any indication, and I think that it is. And unlike his two predecessors, he’s starting to show an increasingly thin skin, which is going to be more and more a problem.
The next two years are going to be hard on him, I’m afraid, and that doesn’t make me happy, because that means hard on the nation.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:45:36pm |
re: #387 brookly red
Well you know we disagree on this, I think invading Iran would make the situation there worse not better, but we’ve been over this 12-13 times :D
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austin_blue Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:45:46pm |
re: #374 publicityStunted
Did you see last night’s 60 Minutes piece on the danger of hackers bringing down the nation’s infrastructure? Why bother with a bomb when a $200 Netbook does the job just as well? o_O
The worst job in Government is the Computer Systems Security chief. No funding, no staff, no mandate, etc. It has been a revolving door of appointees who discover they have no power and quit.
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sandbox Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:45:47pm |
re: #389 lawhawk
How do you feel about the proposed Islamic Center near ground zero? Is is appropriate?
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:45:51pm |
re: #390 albusteve
That’s a hell of an out man, I salute you for the creative dodge :D
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:46:06pm |
re: #392 tradewind
… and that’s Obama’s problem, as well.
Any action he has taken to correct a situation, as you put it, was forced upon him. He would have been perfectly happy to ignore the same things as his predecessors,if his attitude toward such things as DADT, the ME, and our immigration
dilemma is any indication, and I think that it is. And unlike his two predecessors, he’s starting to show an increasingly thin skin, which is going to be more and more a problem.
The next two years are going to be hard on him, I’m afraid, and that doesn’t make me happy, because that means hard on the nation.
yes, the guy is poison…we will see soon enough
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:46:51pm |
re: #392 tradewind
I think you’re mistaken, several of the things he’s pushed he campaigned pretty heavily on (like HC reform, altho he had to give alot of ground on that).
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albusteve Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:47:01pm |
re: #396 windsagio
That’s a hell of an out man, I salute you for the creative dodge :D
it’s not a dodge nit wit…your cred is shot with me
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sandbox Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:47:56pm |
re: #393 windsagio
No one is talking about invading Iran. Bombing Iran nuke sites doesn’t require invasion.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:50:30pm |
re: #26 YoungTim
Can someone direct me to some documentation on the Birchers & racism?
They weren’t big on direct racism. A bircher told me that,”they weren’t racists because John Birch loved the Korean People”. The real answer is a bit more complex; The John Birch Society HATED communism. And they saw commies ever’where. Why, Roosevelt himself was a commie!(patience, I’m getting there)
Now, those who have actually critiqued the John Birchers say things like this;
The JBS simultaneously discouraged overt displays of racism, while it promoted policies that had the effect of racist oppression by its opposition to the Civil Rights movement. The degree of political racism expressed by the JBS was not “extremist” but similar to that of many mainstream Republican and Democratic elected officials at the time. This level of mainstream racism should not be dismissed lightly, as it was often crude and sometimes violent, treating Black people in particular as second-class citizens,…In Alan Stang’s book published by the JBS, It’s Very Simple: The True Story of Civil Rights, Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. is portrayed as an agent of a massive communist conspiracy to agitate among otherwise happy Negroes to foment revolution, or at least promote demands for more collectivist federal government intrusion.
and
The same is true with JBS levels of personal and political antisemitism. When crude antisemitism was detected in JBS members, their membership was revoked. The most celebrated incident involved Birch leader Revilo P. Oliver who moved over to work with Willis Carto and the Liberty Lobby after being forced to resign from the Birch Society for making antisemitic and White supremacist comments at a 1966 Birch rally.
The Birch Society promoted the book None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen who included a dubious discussion of the Rothschilds and other Jewish banking interests as part of a sketch of a much larger conspiracy involving financial and political elites and the Council on Foreign Relations. Allen explicitly rejected the idea that by focusing on the early roll of the Rothschilds in investment banking he was promoting a theory of a Jewish conspiracy:
But you also have these little tidbits from wikipedia;
Antisemitic, racist, anti-Mormon, anti-Masonic, and religious groups criticized the group’s(that group, being, of course, The John Birch Society) acceptance of Jews, non-whites, Masons, and Mormons (Ezra Taft Benson, a leader in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, encouraged people to join it). These groups accused Welch of harboring feminist, ecumenical, and evolutionary ideas.[20][21][22] Ayn Rand said in a Playboy interview that “What is wrong with them is that they don’t seem to have any specific, clearly defined political philosophy… I consider the Birch Society futile, because they are not for Capitalism but merely against Communism.”[23][24]
Ok, so where are we? This is the crux. The John Birch Society did not hate people because of their non-white racial backgrounds. Oh no! They hated the commies for weakening America by granting acceptance and rights to People with non-white racial backgrounds!Gays, foreigners, and joining the United Nations also was felt to be part of the plot to weaken America. So was every thing that Roosevelt ever did or imagined. And they saw more commies under their beds than McCarthy did. The difference between them and McCarthy is, that while McCarthy was a cynical, power-mad self appointed tyrant over who should and should not be American; the John Birch Society was merely a group of well-meaning Americans, who were slightly to the right of Attila the Hun, And Out Of Their Fucking Minds.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:50:51pm |
re: #397 albusteve
I don’t think he’s poison. He’s my president, as well as responsible for the safety of our country. I don’t think he hates America… and I don’t think he’s a sekrit Anything. I do think his idea of what America should move towards is fairly well to the left of mainstream thought, and I think he’s an elitist in that sense, which does not make for competence in government.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:52:23pm |
re: #391 Walter L. Newton
He is talking about face hiding veils, and you know it.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:52:51pm |
re: #398 windsagio
The HCA, which by the way, is still a murky, secretive thing, and for which he still feels this compunction to ’ go out and campaign ’ , even though it is the law of the land, bears almost no resemblance to the health care he talked about during his campaign.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:53:17pm |
re: #387 brookly red
well maybe not if we want to move on Iran we already have assets in place now don’t we ?
They’re too busy rounding up your tattooed gang of burka wearing pork thieves.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:53:19pm |
re: #400 sandbox
In the context of force readiness, brookly’s comment about ‘moving on’ Iran carried the force of ‘invade’. If thats what he meant, I apologize.
That being said, bombing would have just about as bad a negative effect, but without nearly as much result (or in fairness lost lives).
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:54:15pm |
re: #315 albusteve
we should have rebuilt the Twin Towers, only new and improved, and even taller but the same thing, same color…I don’t like what’s happening now
The French wire-walker who crossed the towers offered to come out of retirement and do it again, if we would rebuild them. We suck at symbolic conflict.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:54:17pm |
re: #402 tradewind
I don’t think he’s poison. He’s my president, as well as responsible for the safety of our country. I don’t think he hates America… and I don’t think he’s a sekrit Anything. I do think his idea of what America should move towards is fairly well to the left of mainstream thought, and I think he’s an elitist in that sense, which does not make for competence in government.
Wait, wait, wait.. Elitist is now tied to a particular side of the political spectrum? I thought it was just the idea that the very best or “Elite” should be in charge of everything, can’t you find that on the right also?
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:54:53pm |
re: #393 windsagio
The consensus seems to be that the options for invading Iran are a bad one, and a worse one, and a nightmare.
I can’t help but think that Israel will end up taking care of this in whatever way they feel they must.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:55:50pm |
re: #408 jamesfirecat
Of course you can find elitists on both sides. Obama’s happens to be the left one. Neither is a workable approach to governing.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:56:16pm |
re: #409 tradewind
Which is their business.
I take hope in the fact that they haven’t done anything like that yet, because I still feel that any military intervention would be an utter disaster in the long run.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:57:13pm |
re: #388 albusteve
then we better hitch it up for the fight…folding into the sphere of the RC is not an option
Actually, China taking over as the main power in the Western Pacific is very much a possibility. In fact, right now its the most likely outcome. I’d honestly have to question if we should oppose them.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:57:46pm |
re: #410 tradewind
Of course you can find elitists on both sides. Obama’s happens to be the left one. Neither is a workable approach to governing.
I disagree with you on Obama being an elitists but that’s a long drawn out fight that I don’t think either of us are going to shift the other on.
I agree with much of what you said but was incensed by your comments of “I do think his idea of what America should move towards is fairly well to the left of mainstream thought, and I think he’s an elitist in that sense,” which to me read like the only way one could be an Elitist was to be to the left, or that being to the left automatically made you an elitist…
///After all everyone should know that true leftists long for a day when there are no decadents elitsts left behind and we are all equal comerade!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:57:54pm |
re: #403 Slumbering Behemoth
He is talking about face hiding veils, and you know it.
Thank you for that.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:57:55pm |
re: #412 Dark_Falcon
Its tough, because they’re actually pretty awful in a number of ways, but yeah. Not sure it’s worth it. WW2 this isn’t.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 5:59:46pm |
re: #408 jamesfirecat
I am not using the term ’ elitist ’ to mean’ the very best ‘. (I’m sending you to a foreign land, your dictionary…. it can only help. Look for the ’ sense of entitlement ’ thingy).
:)
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:01:16pm |
re: #416 tradewind
I am not using the term ’ elitist ’ to mean’ the very best ‘. (I’m sending you to a foreign land, your dictionary… it can only help. Look for the ’ sense of entitlement ’ thingy).
:)
So less “elite” more “aristocratic”?
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:01:40pm |
re: #413 jamesfirecat
You never read much about the old Soviet Union, did you? Check under heading ’ palatial dachas ‘.
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sandbox Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:01:58pm |
re: #414 Dark_Falcon
I wonder when we’ll see an American City or Town enact a ban against face covering in public?
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:02:27pm |
re: #417 jamesfirecat
Sigh. Not really.
Try more ass-hat-ic.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:03:12pm |
re: #419 sandbox
I wonder when we’ll see an American City or Town enact a ban against face covering in public?
Already prohibited under reconstruction-era laws to suppress the KKK (1st one).
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:03:37pm |
re: #419 sandbox
They could start with the MSP Starbucks, and go from there…../
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:04:04pm |
re: #415 windsagio
Its tough, because they’re actually pretty awful in a number of ways, but yeah. Not sure it’s worth it. WW2 this isn’t.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not in favor of cutting and running. But if we’re going to stay, we need to seriously build up our Pacific Fleet. That’s going to take a a lot of money. I’m in favor of such a thing, but only if we don’t do it half-assed. Better to retreat than to fight and lose.
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lawhawk Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:04:53pm |
re: #419 sandbox
Cities have enacted mask bans in the past - but they weren’t religious specific.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:05:13pm |
re: #423 Dark_Falcon
I think that as it is, us being there is a deterrent. Its a strong enough deterrent to hold the PRC off tho’, so its working.
I just have no illusions of what would happen if it came to actual fighting.
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tradewind Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:05:53pm |
re: #411 windsagio
It’ll be the Samson solution, and awful. But that little nation doesn’t have a lot of options left.
This should have been nipped in the bud when the first reactors were detected, just like the Norks. Actually, same goes for the Pakis. Way back then, they had no business with them, because that just guaranteed that India would be next, and we’re off to the races.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:07:35pm |
re: #412 Dark_Falcon
Actually, China taking over as the main power in the Western Pacific is very much a possibility. In fact, right now its the most likely outcome. I’d honestly have to question if we should oppose them.
I would like to address this. China just threw a hissy-fit because America sold some weapons to Taiwan. Now Taiwan is the size of a ping-pong ball compared to China. And the thought of Taiwan invading China is ludicrous. But she can defend herself….now.
I find it very telling that China would object to Taiwan having the ability to stave off an attack.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:09:31pm |
re: #419 sandbox
It is illegal to cover your face in Tampa, Fla, except for SWAT teams and halloween.
It was an anti-klan law.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:09:41pm |
re: #414 Dark_Falcon
He’s knows what you wrote, he’s not stupid. I think he’s just playing with you. Don’t get me wrong, I like Walter, but sometimes…
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:11:17pm |
re: #425 windsagio
I think that as it is, us being there is a deterrent. Its a strong enough deterrent to hold the PRC off tho’, so its working.
I just have no illusions of what would happen if it came to actual fighting.
Agreed. But if we’re going to maintain that deterrent as the Chinese get stronger, we must increase its power. I’m in favor of that, if we are prepared to really do it. It doesn’t mean a blank check, but it does mean that if the Navy says it needs 4 more destroyers to do it, Congress should not cut the appropriation to 3 just for the sake of cutting. They should either put out the money, or honestly say it isn’t there.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:12:10pm |
re: #428 swamprat
It is illegal to cover your face in Tampa, Fla, except for SWAT teams and halloween.
It was an anti-klan law.
In Florida such laws were needed. The Klan had great power there in the 20’s and 30’s.
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sandbox Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:18:54pm |
re: #431 Dark_Falcon
A number of EU cities have enacted bans on mask wearing in the past few years. It’s a trend—even the socialists approve.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:24:44pm |
re: #431 Dark_Falcon
In Florida such laws were needed. The Klan had great power there in the 20’s and 30’s.
You are right, but I believe this was passed in the 80s or 90s.
And in a town further north, in the 80s at least, maybe the 90’s;
On the road to the tourist trap “silver springs”
where they filmed the Tarzan movies
A little sign on the road
“NO NI@@ERS BEYOND THIS POINT”
I saw that sign.
I knew a long haired guy in plant city who had to go to tampa because the Plant City branch of the Klan didn’t allow “hippies”.
He had to commute to get his racism fix.
Tampa needed/needs that no mask law.
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