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1 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:14:35pm
2 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:15:18pm

Nice collection of humorous signs regarding gay marriage...and a good song to boot.

3 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:18:31pm

Colts and Bills are tied 14 all...Great game..Too bad the NFL will not let anybody see it except Indy and Buffalo and Toronto...

4 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:18:36pm

It is National Aviation Day.

5 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:20:12pm

re: #1 Ojoe

Stacked Jugs.

I kinda thought the image would be of something, um, different.

6 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:20:56pm

re: #1 Ojoe

Stacked Jugs.

Please, not another airplane thread. I can't hold my own with you guys.

Now, if you wanna talk about motorcycles, well then...

7 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:26:29pm

re: #6 Cato the Elder

Please, not another airplane thread. I can't hold my own with you guys.

Now, if you wanna talk about motorcycles, well then...

Sure. Air cooled rules.

8 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:26:41pm

re: #6 Cato the Elder

Please, not another airplane thread. I can't hold my own with you guys.

Now, if you wanna talk about motorcycles, well then...

9 wrenchwench  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:28:41pm

[Link: www.viddler.com...]

Suddenly I'm hungry. Later.

10 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:29:02pm

re: #6 Cato the Elder

Especially for you, a motorcycle with an aircraft engine:

I would not try to ride this myself.

BBL

11 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:30:56pm

Found this on some old CDs and can't get it out of head

12 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:31:23pm
13 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:31:35pm

Someone ought to do a Downfall parody video with Hitler finding out about the "Ground Zero Mosque", and then getting überpissed when he's told Newt Gingrich compared it to him.

14 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:31:56pm

re: #1 Ojoe

Stacked Jugs.

My neighbor Ed was a kindly old retired school administrator and teacher who could be seen puttering around his rose garden or just sitting on the porch watching traffic go by. He knew a lot about education, though, and provided some timely advice at several points in my academic career.
I had known him for some time before I found out he had flown 97 combat missions in a P-47 between D-Day and the end of the war and was a recipient of the Distinguished Flying Cross. He thought it was no big deal.
Ed died in 2004 at the age of 85. I still think of the house 2 doors down as "Ed's place."

15 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:33:30pm

Spacewalking astronauts plug in new cooling pump

Spacewalking astronauts installed a new ammonia pump on the International Space Station on Monday, accomplishing the urgent cooling-system repairs after more than two weeks of impaired operations in orbit.

Making his third spacewalk in just 10 days, Douglas Wheelock slid the bathtub-size pump into place then bolted it down as Tracy Caldwell Dyson hooked up power cables.

An initial test proved successful. "Sweet," Wheelock exclaimed.

16 Bubblehead II  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:34:01pm
17 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:34:18pm

re: #15 Racer X

Spacewalking astronauts plug in new cooling pump

Spacewalking astronauts installed a new ammonia pump on the International Space Station on Monday, accomplishing the urgent cooling-system repairs after more than two weeks of impaired operations in orbit.

Making his third spacewalk in just 10 days, Douglas Wheelock slid the bathtub-size pump into place then bolted it down as Tracy Caldwell Dyson hooked up power cables.

An initial test proved successful. "Sweet," Wheelock exclaimed.

Speaking of space, I can't recommend Mary Roach's Packing for Mars enough. It's a great read!

18 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:34:52pm

re: #10 Ojoe

Especially for you, a motorcycle with an aircraft engine:

I would not try to ride this myself.

BBL

The BMW logo is a spinning prop from their early days as airplane engine designers. The air cooled R series has a direct lineage to air cooled aircraft. And their fast and handle with amazing agility. The horizontally opposing pistons in the R series have a stabilizing effect when cornering.

19 Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:35:05pm

Just back from a short drive and walk down to the local river. Managed to go between the rain showers. Did not see any bears or even eagles. Guess the salmon run was not too good over night.

20 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:36:23pm

re: #19 Bear

Just back from a short drive and walk down to the local river. Managed to go between the rain showers. Did not see any bears or even eagles. Guess the salmon run was not too good over night.

No bears or eagles, but did you see any beagles?

21 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:37:43pm

re: #13 negativ

That's a fucking great idea man!

22 Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:37:58pm

re: #20 PT Barnum

No. Guess they were eaten. Could have been by a wolf though.

23 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:40:19pm

re: #13 negativ

Someone ought to do a Downfall parody video with Hitler finding out about the "Ground Zero Mosque", and then getting überpissed when he's told Newt Gingrich compared it to him.

Would love to see that.

24 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:40:40pm

well..i gotta go..got code to write before tomorrow.

25 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:40:43pm

Going to the beach tomorrow for the weekend and seeing my cousins. Gotta love that.

26 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:42:02pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Going to the beach tomorrow for the weekend and seeing my cousins. Gotta love that.

Depends on your cousins.

27 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:43:35pm

My endodontist is a right wing, Christian fundamentalist and an exceptional endodontist. Thanks, Dr. S for pulling out my rotten nerve and saving me from an abscessed tooth!

28 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:43:46pm

re: #7 Jeff In Ohio

Sure. Air cooled rules.

As the owner of an old BMW touring bike, I have to agree.

29 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:45:15pm

re: #27 prairiefire

He's probably still a bigot though.

/

30 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:48:09pm

re: #29 TheMatrix31

He's probably still a bigot though.

/

I have no idea. He told me if he did not get that nerve out today, it would probably become abscessed over the weekend. I was happy not to have to have a tube inserted in my cheek!

31 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:49:11pm

re: #29 TheMatrix31

He's probably still a bigot though.

/

Ok... enough is enough... this is getting confusing... now I have to find some way to slot in a endodontist...
//

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:49:41pm

re: #27 prairiefire

My endodontist is a right wing, Christian fundamentalist and an exceptional endodontist. Thanks, Dr. S for pulling out my rotten nerve and saving me from an abscessed tooth!

We like Dr. S. Hi, Dr. S!

33 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:49:47pm

re: #28 Cato the Elder

Cato, do you recall the article posted yesterday or the day before positing the question about a pro life church being built next to the site of a bombed abortion clinic?

I mentioned it to a friend who asked me to forward the link. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the story.

34 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:50:18pm

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

Ok... enough is enough... this is getting confusing... now I have to find some way to slot in a endodontist...
//

I'm certain you'll root it out.

35 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:52:08pm

re: #34 Racer X

I'm to drugged on T3 and penicillin to think of puns.

36 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:52:42pm

One early morning when I was riding frequently, I was out in southeastern Indiana, heading west towards the Markland damn on my BMW R/75. I pulled up to a red light in a small town when I heard a honk behind me. Obviously someone in a hurry at 6am on a Sunday, so I waved them around. A nice looking Harley pulled past gunned it the rest of the way through town in what appeared to be a show of derision for my old, red Beemer. He pulled fairly quickly out ahead, I was in no hurry, and I didn't really want to get stuck behind him, so I dawdled a bit the rest of the way through town and eased back out onto the 2 late highway. About 20 minutes later, I was pulling through a long stretch of corn where I could see him in the distance. I quickly caught up and could here his Harley trying to muster some more speed down the stretch. Cruising in 3rd at about 60 miles an hour, I pulled into the opposing lane to pass him. As I pulled along side, he made one more valiant effort to get his Hog some juice by toeing it into high gear and twisting the throttle. I smiled and calmly popped my gear into 4th, hit the throttle and felt the front shocks of my motorcycle lift up as I surged forward. I could barely hear his choking carburetor a short while later as I rushed into 105mph, released the throttle and leaned hard to the left into a turned that dipped down and up through a grove of maple trees. The force from the curve kept my speed from decreasing to quickly and I emerged on the other side about 80mph with that exhilarating feeling you get watching the pavement rush by at high speeds, and the cylinder head lingering right above the asphalt as you guide your body and the motorcycle threw a turn.

37 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:53:15pm

re: #28 Cato the Elder

Sweet. Which one?

38 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:54:05pm

And in the real world... the country is still feeling the effects of the Bush administration... almost a year and a half later...

New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly climbed to a nine-month high last week, yet another setback to the frail economic recovery.

39 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:56:03pm

re: #21 TheMatrix31

I'm thinking it goes like this:
General pointing at map, explaining where the Cordoba center is in relation to GZ, and where the Gellerite protesters are gathered. Hitler watches, then gives the dismissive wave of his hand ("Steiner's assault will bring it under control"). Generals nervously glance at each other until one of them finally blurts out that a famous politician has compared the project to Hitler's legacy.
Hitler boils, invisible steam comes out of his ears. Takes the glasses off, shaking with building rage, calmly tells everyone except the 4 generals to GTFO. Explodes into a tirade with the main point being:
* I did everything imaginable to secure my place as history's greatest monster. I killed millions of innocents, wrecked my entire country and changed the face of Europe for decades to come, and some yahoo thinks a recreation center is equally impressive? Shit, I even invaded Russia! During the winter!

When he's resigned to defeat, I'm not sure how that part should go. Hmm.

40 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:56:27pm

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

That bastard Bush. I wish there was something we could do about his failed policies.

41 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:57:16pm

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

Fuckin' guy sucked so much ass. Ugh. THANKS A LOT MR PRESIDENT.

/

42 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:57:56pm

re: #40 Racer X

That bastard Bush. I wish there was something we could do about his failed policies.

I don't think there is anything we can do. I suspect 2 years from now, we will still be at a standstill, or declining. Bush has probably destroyed this country single-handedly.

43 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:59:09pm

re: #37 Jeff In Ohio

Sweet. Which one?

This one. But in a deeper shade of blue.

A twist of the wrist is all it takes to put me into 90-mph meditation mode.

44 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:59:17pm

re: #36 Jeff In Ohio

You're supposed to end stories like that with the following:

I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
And said "You're moving with your auntie and your uncle in Bel Aire!"

45 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:00:31pm

re: #27 prairiefire

My endodontist is a right wing, Christian fundamentalist and an exceptional endodontist. Thanks, Dr. S for pulling out my rotten nerve and saving me from an abscessed tooth!

Shalit is an endodontist? Crazy. Does he speak as oddly as he writes?

//

46 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:02:47pm

I'm a rabid anti-dentite. I'm a bigot.

47 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:03:25pm

re: #40 Racer X

That bastard Bush. I wish there was something we could do about his failed policies.

no worries. i have it on the best authority that spending ourselves silly is ending the recession...don't fret about those pesky numbers.

48 Bubblehead II  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:03:26pm

Night all. Catch you all on the flip side.

49 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:04:48pm

re: #47 Aceofwhat?

This shall be, the SUMMER OF RECOVERY!

/apologies to George Costanza.

50 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:04:50pm

re: #43 Cato the Elder

This one. But in a deeper shade of blue.

A twist of the wrist is all it takes to put me into 90-mph meditation mode.

Those late 70's r100 are one hellava bike. My R75 is just a tad small for touring (at least as I've gotten older) and a bit large for the city.

51 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:07:10pm

re: #19 Bear

Do you read TheMudlfats? It may not be your cup of tea politically, but here's this morning's post, about her dog encountering a wolf. Short and very well written for anyone interested. (she lives in Anchorage)


The Mudflats - Defender of the Realm

52 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:08:08pm

Halftime of the Colts-Bills game.. There have been 45 points scored in a fiery first half..A heck of a game so far..But too bad for you..The NFL only markets preseason to local markets..So effen smart..I guess they figure those Law & Order reruns are really rocking your world on a Thursday night..
Someday the NFL will get it with the brand and preseason games...

53 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:08:11pm

re: #46 TheMatrix31

The guy's Jewish two days, he's already making Jewish jokes.

54 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:08:31pm

re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist

We like Dr. S. Hi, Dr. S!

Is that Dr. -S- ?

55 Bear  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:08:52pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

Will have to look at it. TNX

56 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:09:21pm

re: #44 negativ

Is that you Cookie Puss?

57 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:09:32pm

re: #53 Jeff In Ohio

And this offends you as a Jewish person?

No, it offends me as a comedian!

58 webevintage  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:10:19pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

Do you read TheMudlfats? It may not be your cup of tea politically, but here's this morning's post, about her dog encountering a wolf. Short and very well written for anyone interested. (she lives in Anchorage)

The Mudflats - Defender of the Realm

Who's a good dog?
Bufs a good dog....

59 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:10:20pm

I just emailed my yesternight's encomium dedicated to Jeffrey Goldberg to the man himself.

Terza Rima Breve and a Bravo for Master at Logics Sir Jeffrey Goldberg, in Gratitude for Truth

I think I smell the airs of spring,
when all the breezes round me cling,
and make sport of my thinning hair.

And spring is here, I hope to dare
say truth, though you may stare:
because I sense a signal veer

in the way the wind doth steer.
No matter that the summer's here!
When a man of heart and brain

sees the wars that monsters can
inflict upon the social ban
and then says something to th'effect

that we here in this land select
not to be the Lord's reject:
Then something changes, so says I.

Copyright © 2010 Cato the Elder

Yes, I write things other than limericks.

60 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:11:00pm

Don't hate on it before you click on the link. Mmkay?

Retail plug: I'm Voting Tea Party t-shirts!

61 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:12:55pm

re: #60 eclectic infidel

Shit, I'm going to have to get one of those.

62 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:14:47pm

Sharron Angle: I would refuse money from company that supports gay rights

Sharron Angle has taken some extreme positions, but this one is remarkable even by her standards: She said on a candidate questionnaire that she would refuse political contributions from a private company that backs equal rights for gays and extends benefits to partners of gay employees.

Angle laid out this position in a candidate questionnaire that she filled out for the Washington-based Government is not God PAC.

In question 35A of the questionnaire, Angle was asked:

Would you refuse PAC money from those who are fundamentally opposed to your views on social issues?

Angle checked the Yes box. The questionnaire then asked:

In reference to question 35A, Intel Corporation supports "equal rights for gays" and offers benefits to "partners" of homosexual employees. Would you refuse funds from this corporate PAC?

Angle again checked the Yes box.

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:15:25pm

re: #60 eclectic infidel

Don't hate on it before you click on the link. Mmkay?

Retail plug: I'm Voting Tea Party t-shirts!

Giggle.

And my husband points out, irritably, that Obama is left-handed.

64 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:16:13pm

re: #62 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Sharron Angle: I would refuse money from company that supports gay rights

Good.

Less money in her snitty kitty.

65 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:16:15pm

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Giggle.

And my husband points out, irritably, that Obama is left-handed.

DOPPLEGANGER!

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:17:42pm

re: #52 HoosierHoops

I'm watching Falcons/Pats...

67 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:17:43pm

re: #62 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Sharron Angle: I would refuse money from company that supports gay rights

Not that my company is interested in Nevada...but it's good to know that my company is officially excluded from her club!

68 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:21:53pm

re: #61 Jeff In Ohio

Shit, I'm going to have to get one of those.

Which one 'talks' to you?

I very much like this one: "Obama doesn't realize Fire Departments are Socialism..."

69 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:23:15pm

re: #59 Cato the Elder

And do you know who else wrote in terza rima?

That's right: Dante.

In my cantos upon the Inferno, I am reserving a particularly scurrilous section for the Poison Dwarf and his Harpy, at approximately the same level of hell in which Dante placed Bertrand de Born, for that he was a stirrer up of strife.

70 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:23:33pm

Cato, have you been seeing my discussions of Sarah Palin?

I think from now on I will call her Pastry Palin...

Today I wrote:

The other day, I had a little fun at Sarah Plain's expense.

She is after all, perhaps the most striking icon of utter stupidity, ignorance and cowardice coupled with opportunism, arrogance and callous offhanded bigotry.

She has become an emblem of everything that is wrong, backwards, uneducated, anti-intellectual and greedy about America - with a self serving dose of Jesus thrown in for good measure.

She has the charm of a chocolate éclair, lovingly crafted with runny feces riddled with amoebic dysentery for chocolate, and the foetid, warm ooze from a particularly large boil (recently popped under an obese man's left armpit) for cream - without the chocolate.

Now these are not wild claims, dear reader.

I can make the case strongly that all I say is without hyperbole. [Ed. note] Well the bit about the éclair creme coming from the lanced boil of a fat man was not right. I should have added that he was terribly sweaty, and the éclair has some short, dark, curly hair of unknown origin added liberally as a garnish.

But I have to ask you, do you think I am being too gentle, and instead should continue to characterize her as the broken love slave of Yog Sogath who will spread madness, darkness and corruption in order to enslave humanity to the old gods?

Or, should I instead focus on the obvious things like she is a moron who couldn't pass high school if she were put back in it - even in a Red State education system?

Or, should I focus on her bigoted populist and racist cries that pander to the worst in America?

Or, should I focus on her lies, and hypocrisy, like pointing out that cap and trade was a Reagan idea that she ran on - before it became cap and tax - which sounds much like how she was for that bridge before she was against it? Perhaps talk about the death panels?

Or, should I focus on her anti-education stance. Her creationism and denial of AGW?

Or, should I focus on her simply being a craven quitter who abandoned her post.

Or, should I focus on her belief that abortion should not be legal? I rather imagine taking her discussion of life beginning at conception, and asking her about an ectopic pregnancy. After the term was explained to her, it would be interesting to hear her back pedal. Then, of course, point out that according to her, since all life began at conception, she was supporting murdering babies.

Or should I focus on the fact that she has the class of one of those semi feral children who was locked in a barn for her formative years because her parents were trying to hide the product of incest?

Or, should I simply call her the comedy portion of the tragedy?

And what of Rush? Racist, bigot, all around classless asshole?

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:23:33pm

Saw "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World" today.

Crazy as hell!

I heart Aubrey Plaza.

72 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:24:17pm

I'd rather have a shirt that says....

"< 8%?"


with the number

"787" on the back.

73 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:24:49pm

re: #68 eclectic infidel

Which one 'talks' to you?

I very much like this one: "Obama doesn't realize Fire Departments are Socialism..."

I'm a little partial to the flat earth one.

74 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:25:07pm

re: #59 Cato the Elder

I just emailed my yesternight's encomium dedicated to Jeffrey Goldberg to the man himself.

Yes, I write things other than limericks.

Beautiful..Just great...If I may...

A wisp of air surrounds me..A spring memory
Like a long lost lover
A long lost enemy..
I breathe deep and pass away the moment
Spring is here
But I see Autumn out my window
The Colors of life and the time for ending

I feel the wind blowing
warm upon my cheeks
I know time is changing
with every step I take

A wisp of spring..And a memory
A smell of the past..Caught in one second
I look out the window..Forthcoming august warning
Blowing in the wind..
If I have just one springtime to sit in the garden
Shall I complain?

I feel the wind blowing
warm upon my cheeks
I know time is changing
with every step I take

-The Hoopster
I suck I know..I just love writing stuff

75 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:25:08pm

re: #70 LudwigVanQuixote

Christ, you're obsessed.

76 HappyWarrior  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:25:15pm

re: #62 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Sharron Angle: I would refuse money from company that supports gay rights

Well at least she's honest about where she stands in admiting that she doesn't give a damn about gays having rights.

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:25:34pm

re: #73 Jeff In Ohio

I'm a little partial to the flat earth one.

I like "Obama Won't Nuke Canada".

78 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:26:21pm

Ugh, it's humid. 84 percent. Me no like.

79 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:26:32pm

BMW thumper
R-27

80 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:26:57pm

re: #78 Gus 802

Fuck anyone who likes hot weather.

81 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:27:21pm

re: #80 TheMatrix31

Fuck anyone who likes hot weather.

Nuke the whales!

/

82 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:27:41pm

re: #69 Cato the Elder

There's a line in the Inferno which says

"State in la mentre io lo enforco"

"Stand aside while I pitchfork him"

83 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:28:03pm

re: #78 Gus 802

Ugh, it's humid. 84 percent. Me no like.

95 here in NC

Drip, drip, drip, drip...

84 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:28:24pm

re: #81 Gus 802

Nuke the whales!

/

Nuke a Gay Whale for Jesus!

85 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:28:39pm

re: #75 TheMatrix31

Christ, you're obsessed.

Better to be obsessed and smart than obsessed and still a muttonheaded mook.

86 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:29:32pm

re: #83 researchok

95 here in NC

Drip, drip, drip, drip...

Felt a little cool when I walked out of my building. Came back from a walk and suddenly realized it was feeling warm and humid. Guess I'm used to have no much humidity after all these years. Almost 20 years.

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:29:40pm

re: #85 Cato the Elder

Obsessed with super-powers...

88 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:31:00pm

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Giggle.

And my husband points out, irritably, that Obama is left-handed.

Exactly. This, from the faq:

You doltful dunderpuss! Obama isn't even right handed.

Yes that is correct. Part of the joke for many of these shirts is that they are factually inaccurate: Obama was born in Hawaii not some scary far off land, Social Security is already a government program, gays already have the right to vote and Obama is left handed. "Grossly misinformed" was my watchword when designing these shirts.

For the "Right Handed Like Hitler" shirt in particular I was just trying to convey the most general and useless way to compare someone to Hitler. I was thinking about using either "carbon based life form" or handedness. I checked to see if he was a righty or not and when I saw that he was a lefty I figured the joke worked better that way since A.) the vast majority of people are right handed, making it a pretty useless way to compare someone to Hitler since it applies to nearly everyone, and B.) in this case he's actually part of the small minority that doesn't fit the bill, making the comparison even more ill informed and foolish.

89 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:31:11pm

re: #86 Gus 802

Felt a little cool when I walked out of my building. Came back from a walk and suddenly realized it was feeling warm and humid. Guess I'm used to have no much humidity after all these years. Almost 20 years.

I hear that. I've been in Raleigh for 8 years. Summer humidity still we4ars me out.

Winter on the other hand, is most tolerable.

90 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:31:35pm

re: #75 TheMatrix31

Christ, you're obsessed.

Ohh not at all. I've simply been holding my true feelings in for some time.

Rush, and Beck and Malkin are worse than she is. Rush is particularly worse. Rove is worse.

Geller is much worse than she is.

So is RSM.

Gingrich is the worst of all actually, because he has always been leaning in these directions, and frankly unlike Palin is smart.

They are all fascistic sum. I write essay after essay full of careful arguments about how we have marching brown shirts rising up again in this nation.

I will be writing about each of them in their turn.

91 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:32:36pm

re: #86 Gus 802

Felt a little cool when I walked out of my building. Came back from a walk and suddenly realized it was feeling warm and humid. Guess I'm used to have no much humidity after all these years. Almost 20 years.

It's 60 degrees here, humidity around the same, cloudy, saome sprinkles off and on, cool.

92 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:32:36pm

re: #90 LudwigVanQuixote

Gee willikers bro, I can't wait to read 'em!

93 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:32:52pm

re: #89 researchok

I hear that. I've been in Raleigh for 8 years. Summer humidity still we4ars me out.

Winter on the other hand, is most tolerable.

Winters aren't that bad here. We'll get a cold snap or two and maybe some snow from time to time but nothing like up north or westward towards the Rockies.

94 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:32:59pm

About Angle's promise not to take donations from companies which support gay rights...

Las Vegas Sun columnist Jon Ralston, who first noticed and reported the response after it was overlooked in an Associated Press exclusive on the questionnaire itself, also noted on Friday that Angle had already received $5,000 from the Senate Majority Fund PAC that included funds from Intel.

In addition to that, however, Angle has accepted $5,000 from the Alamo PAC, Bluegrass Committee, Free & Strong America PAC, Rock City PAC, Tenn PAC and Senate Victory Fund PAC as well as $2,000 from the Hawkeye PAC. All of these, according to the Federal Election Commission’s website, received money from companies that include 3M, Abbott Laboratories, Amazon.Com, UPS and others. Some companies that gave to those PACs, such as Anheuser Busch and Pepsico, have created gay-specific advertising that has been placed in gay-targeted media as well.

More than half of Fortune 500 companies and 83 percent of Fortune 100 companies provided domestic-partner benefits as of last year, according to the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest gay-rights group. Eight-five percent barred employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, too.

I guess she'll be handing back that money any minute now.

95 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:33:25pm

re: #85 Cato the Elder

Better to be pissed off than pissed on.

96 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:33:46pm

re: #90 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh not at all. I've simply been holding my true feelings in for some time.

Rush, and Beck and Malkin are worse than she is. Rush is particularly worse. Rove is worse.

Geller is much worse than she is.

So is RSM.

Gingrich is the worst of all actually, because he has always been leaning in these directions, and frankly unlike Palin is smart.

They are all fascistic sum. I write essay after essay full of careful arguments about how we have marching brown shirts rising up again in this nation.

I will be writing about each of them in their turn.

Wow... can you just supply us with a list, from nuaghty to inchoate evil, it would make thing a lot simpler, and save a lot of bandwidth.

97 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:33:50pm

re: #89 researchok

I hear that. I've been in Raleigh for 8 years. Summer humidity still we4ars me out.

Winter on the other hand, is most tolerable.

6 years in Jacksonville. I'm done with humidity.

98 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:34:03pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

It's 60 degrees here, humidity around the same, cloudy, saome sprinkles off and on, cool.

NOAA is saying 63 for DIA.

100 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:34:24pm

re: #95 TheMatrix31

Better to be pissed off than pissed on.

Unless you get stung by a jelly fish
/

101 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:34:41pm

re: #93 Gus 802

Winters aren't that bad here. We'll get a cold snap or two and maybe some snow from time to time but nothing like up north or westward towards the Rockies.

Winters here are easy here too, for the most part.

Spring and fall last a week.

102 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:35:04pm

re: #88 eclectic infidel

Exactly. This, from the faq:

Brilliant, and even better.

I like the Fire Dept. one prob the best. I'd actually wear that one in public.

So, I'm driving home today and am behind this car that is some sort of deli that delivers lunch. Well they have their McCain/Palin sticker still on - no prob.

But the license plate cover? Says, George Bush, Miss Him Yet?

103 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:35:14pm

re: #89 researchok

I heart Raleigh. My sister lives there. I lived in Greenville for a spell. Use to play the Poor House and Sadlack's Heros on occasion, but the best joint is the Cave in Chapel Hill. Mouse rulez!

104 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:35:23pm

Evening all

105 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:35:51pm

re: #97 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

6 years in Jacksonville. I'm done with humidity.

Jeez, I was down there a couple of years back in the summer. The only place worse is Houston- a portal of Hell.

106 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:36:28pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

That's not anything new.

107 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:37:07pm

re: #105 researchok

Y'all come on down, it's devilish fine.

108 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:37:08pm

re: #74 HoosierHoops

Do you have Winston, yet?
*smooch*

109 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:37:12pm

re: #101 researchok

Winters here are easy here too, for the most part.

Spring and fall last a week.

I like it when it's 66-72 degrees, 33 percent humidity, with a light breeze of 2-6 mph and a scattering of cumulus clouds.

110 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:37:31pm

re: #81 Gus 802

Nuke the whales!

/

Nuke the gay whales!
///

111 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:37:40pm

re: #103 Jeff In Ohio

I heart Raleigh. My sister lives there. I lived in Greenville for a spell. Use to play the Poor House and Sadlack's Heros on occasion, but the best joint is the Cave in Chapel Hill. Mouse rulez!

Yeah, I like it here a lot, too. Big city without big city grief.

Chapel Hill has a lot of good places now, The only sad news is that the book store is no more. It was taken over, cut down to half the size.... you know the rest.

112 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:37:59pm

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

Nuke the gay whales!
///

Gotta nuke something.

//

113 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:38:07pm

re: #59 Cato the Elder

Well done. Rich but not intrusive mouthfeel, with just a hint of Philip Larkin, minus the dark chocolate bitterness.

114 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:38:39pm

re: #109 Gus 802

I like it when it's 66-72 degrees, 33 percent humidity, with a light breeze of 2-6 mph and a scattering of cumulus clouds.

Paradise.

Heaven if you aren't Muslim.

115 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:38:45pm

re: #112 Gus 802

Hydrate & put a wiggle in it!
*waves*

116 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:38:52pm

re: #109 Gus 802

I like it when it's 66-72 degrees, 33 percent humidity, with a light breeze of 2-6 mph and a scattering of cumulus clouds.

I like it wen it's sunny, my feet are dug into the sand, there's a cold beer near by and the waves on Frisco Beach are slithering between my legs.

117 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:38:59pm
118 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:39:16pm

re: #70 LudwigVanQuixote

119 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:39:48pm

re: #106 TheMatrix31

That's not anything new.

What ev. Just funny how a business puts political shit on their delivery car.

120 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:39:52pm

I don't know about gay whales, but Kanye West is a gay fish.

/South Park

121 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:40:09pm

re: #117 jaunte

DING UP for Holy Grail reference!

122 Ojoe  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:40:28pm

BBL

123 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:40:54pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

I find it not so surprising that a local business is sporting a car that sports a "Miss Me Yet?" holder, heh.

124 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:40:55pm

re: #95 TheMatrix31

Better to be pissed off than pissed on.

So, how does it feel to be both?

125 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:41:08pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

Brilliant, and even better.

I like the Fire Dept. one prob the best. I'd actually wear that one in public.

So, I'm driving home today and am behind this car that is some sort of deli that delivers lunch. Well they have their McCain/Palin sticker still on - no prob.

But the license plate cover? Says, George Bush, Miss Him Yet?

I'd wear it in public too, but I sure as heck don't miss Dubya. That man embarrassed this country, IMO.

126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:41:31pm

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

Nuke the gay whales FOR JESUS!!
///

127 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:41:40pm

re: #101 researchok

Winters here are easy here too, for the most part.

Spring and fall last a week.

Winters are easy here too. If 3 or more feet of snow during an average storm is to your liking.

Supper... BBL

128 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:41:51pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

You think? After all of the things I've written about man baby Beck and Rush the Hutt?

129 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:42:00pm

re: #111 researchok

Yeah, I like it here a lot, too. Big city without big city grief.

Chapel Hill has a lot of good places now, The only sad news is that the book store is no more. It was taken over, cut down to half the size... you know the rest.

It's where I'd be if I hadn't married a local girl who's got a job she loves. Ever go out to the Outer Banks? I've been camping out there since I was 5. Mostly Buxton/Frisco/Hatteras, but the beach has really been hammered the last decade or so and with the constant dredging of Oregon Inlet, the surf is even more brutal then when I was a kid.

130 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:42:06pm

re: #107 jaunte

Y'all come on down, it's devilish fine.

Sounds like a plan.

What's worse though, is the new AC units. I had to replace my unit and the stuff that replaces the freon just isn't as good. It seems the unit doesn't remove the humidity as well.

131 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:43:19pm

re: #124 Cato the Elder

The dichotomy of such an existence is abso-fucking-litely amazing.

132 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:43:28pm

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Obsessed with super-powers...

They got nothin on these guys

133 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:43:49pm

Some may have missed this today. One of the comments said, they miss-spelled "on"

CNN Fail

134 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:44:02pm

re: #129 Jeff In Ohio

It's where I'd be if I hadn't married a local girl who's got a job she loves. Ever go out to the Outer Banks? I've been camping out there since I was 5. Mostly Buxton/Frisco/Hatteras, but the beach has really been hammered the last decade or so and with the constant dredging of Oregon Inlet, the surf is even more brutal then when I was a kid.

OBX are pretty much the best party of NC. Nothing like summer weekends out there.

Wilmington area is booming. The beaches are becoming 'urban' if you know what I mean.

135 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:44:23pm

re: #130 researchok

What is the stuff you're using now?

136 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:44:25pm

re: #125 eclectic infidel

Yeah, President Obama has certainly helped our reputation abroad.

137 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:44:37pm

re: #134 researchok

I mean that in the lack of laid back, rural way.

138 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:44:47pm

re: #108 Floral Giraffe

Do you have Winston, yet?
*smooch*

Hi Beautiful! Of Course I have Winston! I picked him up Sunday morning when I woke up..I got licked a thousand times and he was doing flips and freaking out..It was awesome..That's why..I have probably posted 5000 posts about Winston since he got dropped off here..This winter in Oklahoma I think I'll just recover all the funny moments and write a children's book about Winston...With an Adult's viewpoint....I've been really mulling this..It's already mostly written....And I have a ton of pics

139 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:45:25pm

Bachelor night for me, it appears...so it's the standard junk food diet. I'm thinking of grilled duck breast with fig & balsamic reduction, roasted fingerling potatoes, and a salad.

140 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:45:36pm

re: #135 jaunte

What is the stuff you're using now?

Something called Puron

141 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:45:50pm

re: #138 HoosierHoops

Hi Beautiful! Of Course I have Winston! I picked him up Sunday morning when I woke up..I got licked a thousand times and he was doing flips and freaking out..It was awesome..That's why..I have probably posted 5000 posts about Winston since he got dropped off here..This winter in Oklahoma I think I'll just recover all the funny moments and write a children's book about Winston...With an Adult's viewpoint...I've been really mulling this..It's already mostly written...And I have a ton of pics

what kind of dog is he? or is he your significant other? :) Hard to tell from the description :)

142 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:46:27pm

re: #139 darthstar

What, no tofu burgers in the freezer?

143 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:46:45pm

re: #138 HoosierHoops

Hi Beautiful! Of Course I have Winston! I picked him up Sunday morning when I woke up..I got licked a thousand times and he was doing flips and freaking out..It was awesome..

I told you that would happen, did I not?

144 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:47:01pm

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Obsessed with super-powers...

What would you do?

145 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:48:13pm

re: #136 TheMatrix31

Yeah, President Obama has certainly helped our reputation abroad.

Wait, who'd he piss off?

146 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:48:30pm

re: #137 researchok

I mean that in the lack of laid back, rural way.

I know what you mean. Wilmington has been booming for a while.

147 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:48:43pm

re: #140 researchok

148 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:48:46pm

re: #145 windsagio

Wait, who'd he piss off?

All the people who think we should bomb first and ask questions later.

149 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:48:50pm

re: #138 HoosierHoops

Ahem, I haven't seen any pictures....
yet....

150 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:48:51pm

Ohh I like that.. The vile gangster, Rush the Hutt.

What of Cheney? The soulless, shining example of unrestrained cruelty, callousness and rapacious avarice that so properly encapsulates the "fuck everyone else" attitudes of the GOP power players?

I am more than vociferous about the vile excesses of Haliburton and how, were there justice, he would be in federal prison. Honestly, I find it ironic that he keeps having heart problems. I didn't think vampires had to worry about such things.

What of the general anti American, nature of the teabags that I write about regularly and the progress of their goose stepping lessons?

Honestly, I am glad we call those semi-literate, douchebags teabags. The image of them lying mouth agape for the opportunity to tongue bathe the sweaty testicles of their masters seems quite apt - especially given their rampant homophobia.

151 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:49:02pm

re: #142 Jeff In Ohio

What, no tofu burgers in the freezer?

Nope...just a couple of legs of lamb and a rack of pork...too much to worry about defrosting and eating. The duck breasts are in the fridge (wife must have bought a full double breast, as the price tag shows $32. and change...I'll probably wrap and freeze half of it and save it for a duck breast pizza I like to make for when she's home.

152 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:49:02pm

re: #141 PT Barnum

what kind of dog is he? or is he your significant other? :) Hard to tell from the description :)

Jeez..My dog..Click my nic to see him in his pool boat..
I went through a Divorce a couple years ago..Very painful..Winston has been my friend in Indiana...

153 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:49:10pm

re: #136 TheMatrix31

Yeah, President Obama has certainly helped our reputation abroad.

At least he can think and speak in complete sentences. Dubya couldn't even do that.

154 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:49:10pm

re: #146 Jeff In Ohio

I know what you mean. Wilmington has been booming for a while.

Last few years fro sure.

Trendy beaches- how sad is that??

155 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:49:20pm

re: #148 PT Barnum

All the people who think we should bomb first and ask questions later.

I think most of those guys are in the US anyways >>

And also would have hated him no matter what.

156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:49:59pm

re: #140 researchok

Sounds to me like it's put in wrong. New systems work much more efficiently than the old ones.

157 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:50:06pm

re: #140 researchok

Lost the post: a friend in the ac business told me some people have had problems with the installation of the new stuff becasue their installeer didn't flush the system completely of freon, and the mix of chemicals doesn't work well.

158 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:50:40pm

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

Ahem, I haven't seen any pictures...
yet...

I have a ton of pics..It won't be long!

159 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:51:13pm

re: #152 HoosierHoops

Jeez..My dog..Click my nic to see him in his pool boat..
I went through a Divorce a couple years ago..Very painful..Winston has been my friend in Indiana...

Which one is Winston? They're both cute pups.

160 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:52:10pm

re: #152 HoosierHoops

Jeez..My dog..Click my nic to see him in his pool boat..
I went through a Divorce a couple years ago..Very painful..Winston has been my friend in Indiana...

Divorce sucks.....Mine was 15 years ago and I still have flashbacks...

161 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:52:22pm

re: #153 eclectic infidel

LMFAO.

162 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:52:35pm

I've not been to the NC beaches, but I love Mount Pleasant, SC, and all the beaches south of there.

163 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:52:54pm

re: #154 researchok

Last few years fro sure.

Trendy beaches- how sad is that??

Well, people are searching for spots south from Jersey/Ocean Beach/Virginia Beach and north from Hilton Head and meeting at Nags Head. Lucky there's still national park land on OBX and the Eastern Shore (Maryland).

164 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:53:10pm

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds to me like it's put in wrong. New systems work much more efficiently than the old ones.

maybe. it just seems less effective

165 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:53:21pm

re: #150 LudwigVanQuixote

I adore you.
In case you hadn't noticed.
*smooch*

166 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:53:57pm

re: #145 windsagio

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I'm sure Poland wasn't too thrilled about that, for one.

167 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:54:00pm

re: #151 darthstar

Nope...just a couple of legs of lamb and a rack of pork...too much to worry about defrosting and eating. The duck breasts are in the fridge (wife must have bought a full double breast, as the price tag shows $32. and change...I'll probably wrap and freeze half of it and save it for a duck breast pizza I like to make for when she's home.

Damn. I'm having grilled mahi ($5 from trader joes but will serve 4). Homegrown green bean and onion stir fry. White rice. Damn fine but I envy your duck.

168 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:54:02pm

re: #165 Floral Giraffe

I adore you.
In case you hadn't noticed.
*smooch*

Right back at you hon.

169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:54:34pm

re: #162 prairiefire

They're right next to a big ocean.

170 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:54:34pm

re: #163 Jeff In Ohio

Well, people are searching for spots south from Jersey/Ocean Beach/Virginia Beach and north from Hilton Head and meeting at Nags Head. Lucky there's still national park land on OBX and the Eastern Shore (Maryland).

Savannah's Tybee Island is still pretty laid back

171 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:54:57pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Damn. I'm having grilled mahi ($5 from trader joes but will serve 4). Homegrown green bean and onion stir fry. White rice. Damn fine but I envy your duck.

We're finally getting a Trader Joes in Des Moines!

172 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:54:57pm

Sawah Pawin does claim
to be part of the game
on account of that she
has twitterers twee
and all manner of wights
to work out her frights
and take what is nought,
make it look like a "thought"
for the pig-troughs of fools.
Her bag's full of jewels
that she did not earn
but that sprang from the sperm
of a blithering dunce.
Fool me twice? Not yet once.

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:55:14pm

re: #164 researchok

Have your guys check it out. Something ain't right...

174 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:55:23pm

re: #159 PT Barnum

Which one is Winston? They're both cute pups.

Winston is the long hair red haired dog...I just got back from Oklahoma to find us a place to live.. He thought I left him forever..I can't do anything without Winston following me.. I go take a pee and he sits right behind me..On guard..Just in case I leave...Very cute...

175 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:55:56pm

re: #166 TheMatrix31

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I'm sure Poland wasn't too thrilled about that, for one.

Oh for Pete's sakes. Poland still likes us, and no one would have even blinked if a Republican president had done likewise. I ain't sayin' it's what I would have done, but I am an old Cold War hand.

There's a difference between 'made a debatable call' and 'has damaged our image with the world'.

176 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:56:06pm

re: #172 Cato the Elder

You're such a fucking bad ass writer, man. So jealous.

177 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:56:17pm

re: #171 PT Barnum

We're finally getting a Trader Joes in Des Moines!

Mazal tov! Shop in good health.

178 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:56:24pm

re: #166 TheMatrix31

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I'm sure Poland wasn't too thrilled about that, for one.

Wow you found someone, I'm impressed.

That's exactly like pissing off all our major allies. Exactly.

179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:56:34pm

re: #174 HoosierHoops

Bury me under my dog.

180 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:57:03pm

re: #175 SanFranciscoZionist

The timing of it wasn't too fantastic. It wasn't a question of who "still likes us", but levels of embarrassment.

181 researchok  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:57:12pm

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have your guys check it out. Something ain't right...

I ought to. I've been having grief for a while now.

182 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:57:28pm

re: #175 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh for Pete's sakes. Poland still likes us, and no one would have even blinked if a Republican president had done likewise. I ain't sayin' it's what I would have done, but I am an old Cold War hand.

There's a difference between 'made a debatable call' and 'has damaged our image with the world'.

Not if you have a raging case of ODS

183 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:57:38pm

re: #166 TheMatrix31

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I'm sure Poland wasn't too thrilled about that, for one.

What? Poland can't pay for their own defense?

184 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:58:29pm

re: #180 TheMatrix31

The timing of it wasn't too fantastic. It wasn't a question of who "still likes us", but levels of embarrassment.

... I guess that fits within 'our reputation abroad', but still.

185 Blue Fin  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:58:48pm

...and the dems had no part in the decision making process...keep it real brother!
re: #38 Walter L. Newton

186 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:58:50pm

re: #174 HoosierHoops

Winston is the long hair red haired dog...I just got back from Oklahoma to find us a place to live.. He thought I left him forever..I can't do anything without Winston following me.. I go take a pee and he sits right behind me..On guard..Just in case I leave...Very cute...

We have two like that. I come home and they both find spots by my feet at my desk...the big one just drops...my wife and look at each other and say "we have ploppage"

187 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:58:53pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Shush, Obama is clearly as colorblind and bullheaded as Bush ever was in foreign policy!

188 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 6:59:29pm

re: #183 Gus 802

I'm sure it'd be good PR if France decided to make a deal with Saudi Arabia on an anniversary of 9/11 or something.

189 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:00:00pm

re: #168 LudwigVanQuixote

Shipping out 2 kids & a dog tomorrow on a 6AM (God help us) flight. Later, taters!

190 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:00:45pm

re: #189 Floral Giraffe

Shipping out 2 kids & a dog tomorrow on a 6AM (God help us) flight. Later, taters!

are ya gonna bring em back? Just askin in case they're teenagers...you might not want to...

191 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:00:50pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I envy your duck.

Rotating title?

192 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:01:11pm

re: #155 windsagio

I think most of those guys are in the US anyways >>

And also would have hated him no matter what.

spot on.

Give me a break. It's excuse time for W.

The lie of WMD will be the scourge of this period in the history books. I've watched some of the old (yeah, 2003, so old) footage of the build up and I just want to scream.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:00pm

re: #188 TheMatrix31

I'm sure it'd be good PR if France decided to make a deal with Saudi Arabia on an anniversary of 9/11 or something.

I can see how that damaged us in Poland.

194 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:32pm

re: #188 TheMatrix31

I'm sure it'd be good PR if France decided to make a deal with Saudi Arabia on an anniversary of 9/11 or something.

France, and the US, do extensive business with the Saudis. Every fucking day of the year.

195 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:40pm

re: #191 Racer X

Rotating title?

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I envy your duck.

Envy mine even more, because I have a huge duck...

196 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:49pm

re: #192 Stanley Sea

spot on.

Give me a break. It's excuse time for W.

The lie of WMD will be the scourge of this period in the history books. I've watched some of the old (yeah, 2003, so old) footage of the build up and I just want to scream.

It's amazing to realize that politicians will lie in order to achieve their goals. Astounding.

Newsflash: both sides do it.

197 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:51pm

re: #190 PT Barnum

are ya gonna bring em back? Just askin in case they're teenagers...you might not want to...

Summer visitors, they'll be back next year...

198 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:51pm

re: #188 TheMatrix31

I'm sure it'd be good PR if France decided to make a deal with Saudi Arabia on an anniversary of 9/11 or something.

Read.

Hillary Clinton oversees US missile base deal in Poland
Hillary Clinton in Krakow, 3 July Hillary Clinton said the deal did not threaten Russia

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has overseen the signing in Poland of a key missile base agreement.

The deal sets up a permanent US missile base as part of a revamped version of the controversial missile defence shield.

Russia opposes a Polish base hosting US missiles. Mrs Clinton said the new deal did not threaten Russia.

They got the deal with modifications. Russia is still complaining. There's also a new missile defense shield that will cover all of Europe and the Naval defense missile shield for the Gulf Region.

199 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:02:56pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

Of course someone would want campaign help. Obama ran one of the greatest campaigns in recent memory.

....here's another link [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

/zOMG DailyNews!

200 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:03:21pm

re: #194 SanFranciscoZionist

Yep.

201 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:03:22pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

I can see how that damaged us in Poland.

Think the Japanese do business with us on the date of Pearl Harbor?

202 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:03:42pm

re: #188 TheMatrix31

I'm sure it'd be good PR if France decided to make a deal with Saudi Arabia on an anniversary of 9/11 or something.

What the crap?

Look everybody, the 9/11 stick!

203 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:03:50pm

re: #166 TheMatrix31

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I'm sure Poland wasn't too thrilled about that, for one.

It's so traumatic that we hear about it all the time! er, nada.

204 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:03:54pm

re: #197 Floral Giraffe

Summer visitors, they'll be back next year...

Gotcha...

205 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:04:08pm

re: #196 Racer X

It's amazing to realize that politicians will lie in order to achieve their goals. Astounding.

Newsflash: both sides do it.

And... equivalence. This thread is now complete, we can all go home.

206 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:04:13pm

re: #195 PT Barnum

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Envy mine even more, because I have a huge duck...

3-4 times a week and trust me, your wife may no longer fancy that duck.

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:04:19pm

How'd GM's big IPO go today?

208 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:04:43pm

re: #199 TheMatrix31

Of course someone would want campaign help. Obama ran one of the greatest campaigns in recent memory.

...here's another link [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

/zOMG DailyNews!

Sorry, laughing too hard to respond.

209 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:04:47pm

I'm not gonna say President Bush didn't crack some eggs abroad during his presidency, but please, for the love of fucking everything that is sane in this world, let's not act as if President Obama came in and fucking rectified everything and that everyone fucking loves, or is impressed with us now.

Jeez.

210 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:05:00pm

re: #199 TheMatrix31

Of course someone would want campaign help. Obama ran one of the greatest campaigns in recent memory.

...here's another link [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

/zOMG DailyNews!

Nice.

A gossip column.

211 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:05:13pm

re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist

Keep laughing.

212 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:05:14pm

re: #205 windsagio

And... equivalence. This thread is now complete, we can all go home.

Nite!

213 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:05:33pm

re: #206 Racer X

3-4 times a week and trust me, your wife may no longer fancy that duck.

hey..she's always liked my duck...we like to pluck on a regular basis

214 garhighway  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:05:35pm

re: #196 Racer X

It's amazing to realize that politicians will lie in order to achieve their goals. Astounding.

Newsflash: both sides do it.

Yeah, I suppose.

But when Clinton lied about getting a blowjob, how many US servicemen died as a result? How many hundreds of billions of dollars were pissed away? How many thousand civilians died?

There are lies and there are lies.

215 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:06:33pm

re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry, laughing too hard to respond.

I love Ms. Cupp's smoldering look avatar.

216 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:07:07pm

re: #212 Racer X

Nite!

I konw how this works!

217 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:07:15pm

re: #209 TheMatrix31

I'm not gonna say President Bush didn't crack some eggs abroad during his presidency, but please, for the love of fucking everything that is sane in this world, let's not act as if President Obama came in and fucking rectified everything and that everyone fucking loves, or is impressed with us now.

Jeez.

I wouldn't say he rectified everything, but Jesus, I swear the conservatives are worse than the liberals in their expectations of Obama. If every little thing Obama does is not absolutely spot on perfect, it's like he took their ice cream or something, while they will make excuses for W all day long.

Double standard much?

218 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:07:24pm

re: #215 windsagio

She'd look good in glowsticks and really expensive boots, I think.

/zOMG RAVES and CONVENTIONS!

219 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:07:40pm

re: #214 garhighway

Yeah, I suppose.

But when Clinton lied about getting a blowjob, how many US servicemen died as a result? How many hundreds of billions of dollars were pissed away? How many thousand civilians died?

There are lies and there are lies.

who lied and got US servicemen killed?

220 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:07:54pm

re: #196 Racer X

It's amazing to realize that politicians will lie in order to achieve their goals. Astounding.

Newsflash: both sides do it.

Tell that to the families of the 4000+.

Just do that.

221 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:07:54pm

U.S.-Poland Bilateral Missile Defense Signing and Joint Press Availability With Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
City Hall
Krakow, Poland
July 3, 2010

MODERATOR: (Speaks in Polish.) Ladies and gentlemen, I have the pleasure to announce the signing ceremony of the protocol amending the agreement concerning the deployment of the ballistic missile of defense interceptors in the Republic of Poland. The protocol will be signed by the Honorable Yatsik Naydair, Under Secretary of State and Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland; the Honorable Lee Feinstein, U.S. Ambassador to Poland. And the ceremony will take place in presence of the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton, U.S. Secretary of State; the Honorable Radoslaw Sikorski, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Poland; the Honorable Bogdan Klich, Minister of Defense of the Republic of Poland. U.S.-Poland Bilateral Missile Defense Signing and Joint Press Availability With Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski

Continues.

222 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:08:00pm

re: #217 PT Barnum

I wouldn't say he rectified everything, but Jesus, I swear the conservatives are worse than the liberals in their expectations of Obama. If every little thing Obama does is not absolutely spot on perfect, it's like he took their ice cream or something, while they will make excuses for W all day long.

Double standard much?

You had a typo in there, fixt.

223 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:08:05pm

re: #217 PT Barnum

He brought those motherfucking expectations on himself. HE AND HIS CREW PROMOTED HIMSELF INTO BEING A SOLVER OF EVERYTHING.

That's it. Time for a fantasy football draft. I can't take this fucking shit tonight.

224 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:08:27pm

Another right wing fabrication goes down in flames.

225 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:08:29pm

re: #218 TheMatrix31

The glowing sexy librarian? That'd be something to see!

226 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:08:33pm

re: #211 TheMatrix31

Keep laughing.

Who pissed in your coffee?

227 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:08:54pm

re: #226 Varek Raith

Who pissed in your coffee?

The collapse of the conservative movement.

228 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:09:10pm

re: #183 Gus 802

Heads up... we are having a thunder rumbler up here right now... suspect it's headed your way.

229 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:09:29pm

re: #192 Stanley Sea

spot on.

Give me a break. It's excuse time for W.

The lie of WMD will be the scourge of this period in the history books. I've watched some of the old (yeah, 2003, so old) footage of the build up and I just want to scream.

I have seen that word so many times...can you please tell me who lied?

And exactly what was the 'lie' in question?

230 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:09:31pm

re: #226 Varek Raith

First it was popcorn (a couple nights ago), now it's coffee.

Why the fuck does everyone keep pissing in my food?!

231 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:09:43pm

re: #223 TheMatrix31

He brought those motherfucking expectations on himself. HE AND HIS CREW PROMOTED HIMSELF INTO BEING A SOLVER OF EVERYTHING.

That's it. Time for a fantasy football draft. I can't take this fucking shit tonight.

No..I never saw Obama claim he could fix everything. The media did that to him as did his supporters, who after 8 years of W would have elected Steve Urkel if he would have promised to think about things before acting.

232 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:10:08pm

re: #209 TheMatrix31

I'm not gonna say President Bush didn't crack some eggs abroad during his presidency, but please, for the love of fucking everything that is sane in this world, let's not act as if President Obama came in and fucking rectified everything and that everyone fucking loves, or is impressed with us now.

Jeez.

I don't think anyone is saying that. However, your immediate response was not to defend Bush, which is entirely possible to do, it was to attack Obama, and then try to make a case, based on random events, that Obama had damaged the reputation of the US abroad.

Which is bullshit.

Now, if you wanted to say that Bush was in an impossible situation, and could not realistically have been expected to maintain a high level of warm fuzzies with friends abroad while carrying out his agenda, that's a fair defense of the man.

But acting as though the rep of the US has been sliding down the drain under Obama, and, seriously, linking to a DailyNews (ZOMG) article with a picture of some blonde starlet at the top...not so reasonable.

233 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:10:40pm

Protocol Amending the Ballistic Missile Defense Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Poland

Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
July 3, 2010

Protocol Amending the Ballistic Missile Defense Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Poland

On July 3 in Krakow, Poland, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski witnessed the signing of the Protocol Amending the Agreement between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Republic of Poland Concerning the Deployment of Ground-Based Ballistic Missile Defense Interceptors in the Territory of the Republic of Poland.

This agreement begins implementation of the U.S. European-based Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAA) for ballistic missile defense and enables the stationing of a U.S. land-based missile defense interceptor system in the Republic of Poland. The agreed ballistic missile defense site in Poland is scheduled to become operational in the 2018 timeframe and constitutes a key element of Phase 3 of the EPAA. Upon entry into force, this agreement marks an important step in our countries’ efforts to protect our NATO Allies from the threat posed by the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction.

In addition to deepening our bilateral strategic relationship, we strongly believe that our cooperation in this area makes a substantial contribution to NATO’s collective security and is an integral part of any future NATO-wide missile defense architecture.
The United States Government welcomes the strong commitment of the Government of the Republic of Poland in contributing to efforts to counter existing and future ballistic missile threats.

# # #

234 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:11:03pm

re: #232 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think anyone is saying that. However, your immediate response was not to defend Bush, which is entirely possible to do, it was to attack Obama, and then try to make a case, based on random events, that Obama had damaged the reputation of the US abroad.

Which is bullshit.

Now, if you wanted to say that Bush was in an impossible situation, and could not realistically have been expected to maintain a high level of warm fuzzies with friends abroad while carrying out his agenda, that's a fair defense of the man.

But acting as though the rep of the US has been sliding down the drain under Obama, and, seriously, linking to a DailyNews (ZOMG) article with a picture of some blonde starlet at the top...not so reasonable.

Wait.
I thought the Rs didn't give a shit how the world felt about us...

235 Blue Fin  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:11:10pm

Fundamentally Transform???
re: #231 PT Barnum

236 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:11:19pm

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

Heads up... we are having a thunder rumbler up here right now... suspect it's headed your way.

I see it. It's over my head now and strangely quiet.

237 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:11:32pm

re: #214 garhighway

Yeah, I suppose.

But when Clinton lied about getting a blowjob, how many US servicemen died as a result? How many hundreds of billions of dollars were pissed away? How many thousand civilians died?

There are lies and there are lies.

I pull up to a new client's house. His truck has a bumper sticker, "No one died when Clinton lied"

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:11:44pm

re: #223 TheMatrix31

He brought those motherfucking expectations on himself. HE AND HIS CREW PROMOTED HIMSELF INTO BEING A SOLVER OF EVERYTHING.

That's it. Time for a fantasy football draft. I can't take this fucking shit tonight.

I sense much anger.

239 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:12:07pm

re: #220 Stanley Sea

Tell that to the families of the 4000+.

Just do that.

Look. I remember March 2003 clearly. Everyone had a stick up their ass for Saddam Hussein. The entire Clinton presidency was spent waving a stick at him. He kept trying to shoot down our planes in defiance of U.N. resolutions (Sadddam, not Bill). Congress agreed Saddam was a dick and needed to be stopped. WMD was a small portion of that. Everyone believed he had them. Everyone.

The biggest liar was Saddam - he convinced us all he had them.

240 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:12:12pm

re: #215 windsagio

I love Ms. Cupp's smoldering look avatar.

Check out her blurb from Thaddeus McCotter:
[Link: www.redsecupp.com...]

241 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:13:12pm

re: #239 Racer X

Look. I remember March 2003 clearly. Everyone had a stick up their ass for Saddam Hussein. The entire Clinton presidency was spent waving a stick at him. He kept trying to shoot down our planes in defiance of U.N. resolutions (Sadddam, not Bill). Congress agreed Saddam was a dick and needed to be stopped. WMD was a small portion of that. Everyone believed he had them. Everyone.

The biggest liar was Saddam - he convinced us all he had them.

I knew a lot of people (including myself) who knew Bush was full of crap at the time, and said so repeatedly and loudly. Not that it did us any good of course.

I think people actually fell for it because they didn't expect the administration to lie on that scale.

242 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:13:40pm

re: #229 Stonemason

I have seen that word so many times...can you please tell me who lied?

And exactly what was the 'lie' in question?

Well, I just watched the video of Cheney's "mushroom cloud" tv appearance.

Colin Powell said it too.

243 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:13:49pm

re: #241 windsagio

I knew a lot of people (including myself) who knew Bush was full of crap at the time, and said so repeatedly and loudly. Not that it did us any good of course.

I think people actually fell for it because they didn't expect the administration to lie on that scale.

SADDAM'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM!

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:14:00pm

hay guys whats going on in this thread

the usual, you say?

okay well, here's some doom/death

later!

245 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:14:06pm

re: #240 jaunte

Christ that hurt.

PS: Do ya think she's tryin' to look like Sarah?

246 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:14:06pm

re: #192 Stanley Sea

spot on.

Give me a break. It's excuse time for W.

The lie of WMD will be the scourge of this period in the history books. I've watched some of the old (yeah, 2003, so old) footage of the build up and I just want to scream.

good grief, you people never stop, do you? THE LIE OF WMD!!! BUSH LIED!! OMG!!! HE LIED PEOPLE DIED!!!!

247 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:14:11pm

Almost breaking...

Ann Coulter bitch-slaps Joe Farah

The homophobic Farah blasted Coulter, saying “there is simply no room (at his conference) for compromisers or for people who accept money from those determined to destroy the moral fabric required for self-governance and liberty.”

Coulter fired back at Farah, calling him a “publicity whore” and a “swine” for publishing an email exchange between the two.

Farah, Coulter said in Tweets and emails, “could give less than two shits about the conservative movement as demonstrated by his promotion of the birther nonsense. He’s the only allegedly serious conservative pushing the birther thing and for one reason — to get hits on his web site.”

248 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:14:27pm

re: #244 WindUpBird

hay guys whats going on in this thread

the usual, you say?

okay well, here's some doom/death


[Video]

later!

Pussy.

249 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:14:28pm

re: #241 windsagio

I knew a lot of people (including myself) who knew Bush was full of crap at the time, and said so repeatedly and loudly. Not that it did us any good of course.

I think people actually fell for it because they didn't expect the administration to lie on that scale.

I wrote to president Bush and asked him not to take us back into war with Iraq. He did not listen to me either.

I am not a warmonger.

250 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:15:09pm

re: #249 Racer X

Never said you were :)

Still, its not true that everyone fell for it. Plenty of people didn't.

251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:15:47pm

re: #236 Gus 802

I see it. It's over my head now and strangely quiet.

Too quiet...

252 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:16:00pm

re: #245 windsagio

She looks ok, but she lists Hannity and Gingrich among her favorite writers. That sort of takes the bloom off.

253 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:16:39pm

re: #252 jaunte

She looks ok, but she lists Hannity and Gingrich among her favorite writers. That sort of takes the bloom off.

Oh lord, don't get me wrong. Chicks like that are dime-a-dozen in Portland. It's just funny to me ;)

254 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:16:40pm

re: #251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Too quiet...

Wait! I just saw a flash in the distance and it suddenly feels like we're driving past a cave!

255 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:16:41pm

re: #168 LudwigVanQuixote

Sending you a picture titled "dog" in a couple of minutes....

256 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:16:42pm

re: #247 eclectic infidel

Almost breaking...

Ann Coulter bitch-slaps Joe Farah

Coulter said the word "shit"?

Takes one to know one.

257 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:17:02pm

re: #62 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

This one's for Sharron Angle

Enjoy that brown acid, Sharron! Look out, satanic queers are all turning your kids into nancies!

258 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:17:03pm

re: #252 jaunte

She looks ok, but she lists Hannity and Gingrich among her favorite writers. That sort of takes the bloom off.

Bet she likes to wear thigh highs and wield a cat o nine

259 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:17:36pm

re: #258 PT Barnum

I wonder if she keeps a duck.

260 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:17:37pm

re: #258 PT Barnum

Bet she likes to wear thigh highs and wield a cat o nine

Yes that was incredibly sexist...so I'm going to apologize in advance..

261 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:18:04pm

re: #259 jaunte

I wonder if she keeps a duck.

I wouldn't kick her out for eating quackers in bed...:)

262 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:18:20pm

re: #260 PT Barnum

I'm wondering if her nom-de-plume is actually supposed to read as 'c-cup' >>

263 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:18:25pm

re: #261 PT Barnum

I wouldn't kick her out for eating quackers in bed...:)

But then I might be acused of acting with mallard aforethought

264 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:18:45pm

re: #239 Racer X

no matter how much context you provide for what the world agreement about Saddam was, the loonies on the left still come out with their Bush Lied garbage. Unbelievable. I suppose it's nice to have blind hatred directed at someone I don't like for a change.

265 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:19:02pm

re: #242 Stanley Sea

Well, I just watched the video of Cheney's "mushroom cloud" tv appearance.

Colin Powell said it too.

keep going...I think you will find an incredible list of people who claimed that Iraq had WMD's, and that list would include governments around the world. If you are trying to say that President Bush and Vice President Cheyney were so all powerful, all encompassing, and all knowing that they were able to hoodwink the entire world (except a handful of leftists) including almost every democrat member of congress, you are mistaken.
It was common knowledge that Saddam was chasing after wmd's, he gassed the Kurds...

Ahhh, why do I bother. You won't listen, you will stick to the left wing talking point, simply ignore that all politicians at the time were saying the same thing, and....

266 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:19:05pm

re: #263 PT Barnum

But then I might be acused of acting with mallard aforethought

But I'm kind of a loon

267 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:19:17pm

re: #260 PT Barnum

Yes that was incredibly sexist...so I'm going to apologize in advance..

She might be into kink, you never know. Some people in positions of power find it an incredible release. Then again, this is probably a conversation for another thread.

268 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:19:25pm

re: #261 PT Barnum

re: #263 PT Barnum

re: #266 PT Barnum

269 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:03pm

Evening Honcos.

270 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:26pm

re: #171 PT Barnum

We're finally getting a Trader Joes in Des Moines!

Congratulations. The clientele are assholes rich hippies with undisciplined obnoxious children but there are bargains to be had. Fish, wine, cheese, lamb etc all at affordable prices.

271 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:33pm

Ann Coulter pumps the bigot dick
tell even bigots do grow sick.

272 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:34pm

Hey. If I had to save either Coulter or Farah from a burning Romulan ship and could only transport one person to safety I'd pick Coulter.

/

273 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:41pm

re: #265 Stonemason

keep going...I think you will find an incredible list of people who claimed that Iraq had WMD's, and that list would include governments around the world. If you are trying to say that President Bush and Vice President Cheyney were so all powerful, all encompassing, and all knowing that they were able to hoodwink the entire world (except a handful of leftists) including almost every democrat member of congress, you are mistaken.
It was common knowledge that Saddam was chasing after wmd's, he gassed the Kurds...

Ahhh, why do I bother. You won't listen, you will stick to the left wing talking point, simply ignore that all politicians at the time were saying the same thing, and...

Ok... then we need to adjust the meme a little bit... all the politicians on that list lied to the Democrats in the House and Senate.

274 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:43pm

re: #247 eclectic infidel


Coulter fired back at Farah, calling him a “publicity whore” and a “swine” for publishing an email exchange between the two.
275 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:20:59pm

re: #246 cliffster

good grief, you people never stop, do you? THE LIE OF WMD!!! BUSH LIED!! OMG!!! HE LIED PEOPLE DIED!!!

What is the problem with that?

We should just get over it right?

After reviewing what we now know, how can you defend it in any way except for partisanship???

And that is the bottom line.

276 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:21:04pm

re: #264 cliffster

no matter how much context you provide for what the world agreement about Saddam was, the loonies on the left still come out with their Bush Lied garbage. Unbelievable. I suppose it's nice to have blind hatred directed at someone I don't like for a change.

I wouldn't mind it if he had been honestly mistaken, but it was pretty clear after the fact that he ignored any information contrary to his foregone conclusion and in fact went out of his way to suppress that information (Valerie Plame, anyone?)

Most of the people supporting the President were either fed the doctored intelligence or were giving him due deference on the basis that he saw all the intelligence.

277 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:21:07pm

re: #246 cliffster

good grief, you people never stop, do you? THE LIE OF WMD!!! BUSH LIED!! OMG!!! HE LIED PEOPLE DIED!!!

If I recall, lots of very good security services in other countries also believed Saddam had WMD. That was not Bush flying solo.

They all turned out to be wrong, and frankly, THANK GOODNESS for it!

re: #241 windsagio

I knew a lot of people (including myself) who knew Bush was full of crap at the time, and said so repeatedly and loudly. Not that it did us any good of course.

I think people actually fell for it because they didn't expect the administration to lie on that scale.

The problem was that there were so very many people who were so very loudly and stridently anti-Bush for everything, they just had very little credibility!

Sort of like those folks who now are loudly and stridently anti-Obama everything right now - we talk all the time here about how idiotic those folks are, don't we?

278 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:21:27pm

re: #272 Gus 802

Hey. If I had to save either Coulter or Farah from a burning Romulan ship and could only transport one person to safety I'd pick Coulter.

/

Can't I just save the transporter energy and go to bed?

279 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:22:13pm

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Congratulations. The clientele are assholes rich hippies with undisciplined obnoxious children but there are bargains to be had. Fish, wine, cheese, lamb etc all at affordable prices.

Have never seen any kids in there, but we usually go at night when we see one.

280 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:22:43pm

re: #162 prairiefire

re: #170 researchok

Sorry, had to put the little one to bed. I've not been to the beaches south of WIlmington in ages. The girls and I are planning to spend a few weeks next summer traveling the Atlantic coast. We'll take a look at those beaches.

281 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:22:45pm

re: #276 PT Barnum

I wouldn't mind it if he had been honestly mistaken, but it was pretty clear after the fact that he ignored any information contrary to his foregone conclusion and in fact went out of his way to suppress that information (Valerie Plame, anyone?)

Most of the people supporting the President were either fed the doctored intelligence or were giving him due deference on the basis that he saw all the intelligence.

Can you please lead me to the evidence that the American security services hoodwinked the rest of the world.

282 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:22:47pm

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Congratulations. The clientele are assholes rich hippies with undisciplined obnoxious children but there are bargains to be had. Fish, wine, cheese, lamb etc all at affordable prices.

Trader Joes is awesome.

283 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:22:50pm

re: #275 Stanley Sea

What is the problem with that?

We should just get over it right?

After reviewing what we now know, how can you defend it in any way except for partisanship???

And that is the bottom line.

What we know is that there was plenty of evidence that there were WMD's, and that either way everyone agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. Everyone said that. Everyone.

And that is the bottom line.

284 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:23:13pm

It wasn't so much the giant build-up of the WMD--and there was, even before we went in, doubt about that, it just wasn't taken seriously by those making the calls.

It was that, after several months, it became clear that we weren't gonna find shit, and that no one was actually going to say "Dude bluffed us right into invading and kicking his ass. Holy shit." No one was going to say anything, we were just going to trundle along, exactly as though our bet had been justified.

Which may have had something to do with the fact that the big-stage first test of the Bush Doctrine didn't end up looking so perfectly clean-cut.

Now, I'm trying to imagine what would be said about Barack Obama if his administration had done exactly likewise.

Oh yes. "Obama lied."

285 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:23:16pm

re: #262 windsagio

I'm wondering if her nom-de-plume is actually supposed to read as 'c-cup' >>

I'm looking for pic of her lesser-known sister, Dee-Dee Cupp.

286 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:23:38pm

re: #278 Varek Raith

Can't I just save the transporter energy and go to bed?

Wait! I might have a solution. I could re-program the transporter to bring them both back. However, it would require that we reprocess both Farah and Coulter into one entity which we could call the Coultrah.

//

287 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:23:53pm

re: #283 cliffster

What we know is that there was plenty of evidence that there were WMD's, and that either way everyone agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. Everyone said that. Everyone.

And that is the bottom line.

And all Saddam had to do was show he had none.

288 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:24:24pm

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Congratulations. The clientele are assholes rich hippies with undisciplined obnoxious children but there are bargains to be had. Fish, wine, cheese, lamb etc all at affordable prices.

I haven't seen many sprogs at the Lakeshore TJ's in Oakland. The ones I've seen, fortunately, have been well-behaved.

289 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:24:33pm

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Congratulations. The clientele are assholes rich hippies with undisciplined obnoxious children but there are bargains to be had. Fish, wine, cheese, lamb etc all at affordable prices.

The one here has pre-made salads for lunch, 3.00 - 4.00 that are to die for.

Trader Joe's rocks. Even better during the holidays.

290 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:24:43pm

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

And all Saddam had to do was show he had none.

As if you would've believed him...
;)

291 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:24:58pm

re: #70 LudwigVanQuixote

She has the charm of a chocolate éclair,

He told me later / that the stuff in the bottom / was like 'punching an eclair'

I don't really think Sarah spends much time thinking about the things she says. I think she's exactly what Orwell described as a "duckspeaker". She just puts it on cruise control and whatever she says, she says.

What was required, above all for political purposes, was short clipped words of unmistakable meaning which could be uttered rapidly and which roused the minimum of echoes in the speaker’s mind... The use of them encouraged a gabbling style of speech, at once staccato and monotonous. And this was exactly what was aimed at. The intention was to make speech, and especially speech on any subject not ideologically neutral, as nearly as possible independent of consciousness. For the purposes of everyday life it was no doubt necessary, or sometimes necessary, to reflect before speaking, but a Party member called upon to make a political or ethical judgement should be able to spray forth the correct opinions as automatically as a machine gun spraying forth bullets. His training fitted him to do this, the language gave him an almost foolproof instrument, and the texture of the words, with their harsh sound and a certain willful ugliness which was in accord with the spirit of Ingsoc, assisted the process still further.

Limbaugh, on the other hand, I think is fully aware of his level of jackassholio, and is in fact proud of it, and believes it to be the Right Way To Think.

292 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:25:00pm

Now I can smell the rain!

They're here!

293 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:25:53pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Now I can smell the rain!

They're here!

That was quick.

294 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:25:54pm

re: #279 PT Barnum

Have never seen any kids in there, but we usually go at night when we see one.

Very smart!

295 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:26:33pm

Can I just say how much I fucking hate debugging code? Especially while I'm learning a new language?

296 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:26:38pm

re: #293 Walter L. Newton

That was quick.

No rain yet but I'm smelling it and it cooled down and saw a couple of flashes of lightening.

297 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:26:46pm

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

And all Saddam had to do was show he had none.

It really doesn't matter. People hated Bush with such a passion, there were no facts that mattered. That hatred still abounds, it seems, even though most of the people with that irrational hatred probably like Obama, and they can see what happens with the irrational hatred directed at him. Oh well.

298 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:27:37pm

re: #297 cliffster

It really doesn't matter. People hated Bush with such a passion, there were no facts that mattered. That hatred still abounds, it seems, even though most of the people with that irrational hatred probably like Obama, and they can see what happens with the irrational hatred directed at him. Oh well.

"But it's worse now."

299 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:27:44pm

re: #297 cliffster

It really doesn't matter. People hated Bush with such a passion, there were no facts that mattered. That hatred still abounds, it seems, even though most of the people with that irrational hatred probably like Obama, and they can see what happens with the irrational hatred directed at him. Oh well.

My irrational hatred of Bush came after 8 years of dumbfuckery...I don't see most of the Obama haters waited 8 days.

300 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:27:56pm

re: #283 cliffster

What we know is that there was plenty of evidence that there were WMD's, and that either way everyone agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. Everyone said that. Everyone.

And that is the bottom line.

You're being as dishonest as that miserable president who invaded Iraq. That's the bottom line for me.

301 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:28:01pm

re: #295 PT Barnum

Can I just say how much I fucking hate debugging code? Especially while I'm learning a new language?

That's the most challenging part of programming. What is even more fun than debugging your own code is doing maintenance on existing code written by a long gone programmer.

302 freetoken  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:28:38pm

re: #295 PT Barnum

Heh, computers are evil, the work of the devil.

303 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:28:48pm

re: #299 PT Barnum

My irrational hatred of Bush came after 8 years of dumbfuckery...I don't see most of the Obama haters waited 8 days.

I blame my hatred of Obama on Bush.

304 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:29:24pm

re: #283 cliffster

What we know is that there was plenty of evidence that there were WMD's, and that either way everyone agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. Everyone said that. Everyone.

And that is the bottom line.

Not quite everyone.

305 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:29:44pm

re: #196 Racer X

It's amazing to realize that politicians will lie in order to achieve their goals. Astounding.

Newsflash: both sides do it.

Doesn't make it right, no matter who it is...

306 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:29:48pm

re: #300 eclectic infidel

You're being as dishonest as that miserable president who invaded Iraq. That's the bottom line for me.

well then, you fit in well with the right-wing idiots we talk about all the time here now.

307 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:30:25pm

The Dubya defenders shouldn't be bothering me so, but they are. I think, for now, I will do something else. Ciao for now.

308 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:30:33pm

Lightning - at 9,000 frames per second. Pretty cool shit.

[Link: www.petapixel.com...]

309 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:30:35pm

re: #304 SanFranciscoZionist

Not quite everyone.

What about Hitchens? Hitches is quite the leftist otherwise.

310 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:30:48pm

re: #301 Walter L. Newton

That's the most challenging part of programming. What is even more fun than debugging your own code is doing maintenance on existing code written by a long gone programmer.

Yeah...I know...even worse is debugging your own code that you wrote 6 or 7 years ago and having to deal with the fact that you had no fucking clue what you were doing back then.

311 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:32:04pm

re: #308 darthstar

Lightning - at 9,000 frames per second. Pretty cool shit.

[Link: www.petapixel.com...]

The "upward flash" is pretty amazing...as if the energy sent into the earth is returned to the clouds in response strikes.

312 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:32:16pm

re: #308 darthstar

Lightning - at 9,000 frames per second. Pretty cool shit.

[Link: www.petapixel.com...]

That made my night!

313 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:32:23pm

re: #308 darthstar

Lightning - at 9,000 frames per second. Pretty cool shit.

[Link: www.petapixel.com...]

Wow, the speed differential is really surprising.

314 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:32:42pm

re: #310 PT Barnum

Yeah...I know...even worse is debugging your own code that you wrote 6 or 7 years ago and having to deal with the fact that you had no fucking clue what you were doing back then.

Don't program drunk and you won't have that problem down the road.

315 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:32:55pm

re: #247 eclectic infidel

Almost breaking...

Ann Coulter bitch-slaps Joe Farah

For once i can cheer Ann Coulter, since she's entirely right about Farrah.

316 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:33:02pm

re: #311 darthstar

The "upward flash" is pretty amazing...as if the energy sent into the earth is returned to the clouds in response strikes.

U of Florida guys replicated that.

317 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:33:32pm

re: #311 darthstar

The "upward flash" is pretty amazing...as if the energy sent into the earth is returned to the clouds in response strikes.

Hey!
Fuck you, cloud!

318 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:33:36pm

I was around in 2003. I could read newspapers at the time. I recall looking at different accounts of what the situation with Iraq was, trying to decide if I thought the invasion was a rational move.

319 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:33:51pm

re: #284 SanFranciscoZionist

It wasn't so much the giant build-up of the WMD--and there was, even before we went in, doubt about that, it just wasn't taken seriously by those making the calls.

It was that, after several months, it became clear that we weren't gonna find shit, and that no one was actually going to say "Dude bluffed us right into invading and kicking his ass. Holy shit." No one was going to say anything, we were just going to trundle along, exactly as though our bet had been justified.

Which may have had something to do with the fact that the big-stage first test of the Bush Doctrine didn't end up looking so perfectly clean-cut.

Now, I'm trying to imagine what would be said about Barack Obama if his administration had done exactly likewise.

Oh yes. "Obama lied."

REPOST for the bottom line truth.

I'm still pissed about Bremer, and how the museum got looted. Nothing compared to all the lives lost Priceless, ageless history, now in the hands of the greedy.

320 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:34:09pm

re: #272 Gus 802

Hey. If I had to save either Coulter or Farah from a burning Romulan ship and could only transport one person to safety I'd pick Coulter.

/

So that makes Farrah the red shirt, right? :D

321 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:34:59pm

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

For once i can cheer Ann Coulter, since she's entirely right about Farrah.

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

For once i can cheer Ann Coulter, since she's entirely right about Farrah.

She's just trying to save what's left of her bony ass.

322 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:35:01pm

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

So that makes Farrah the red shirt, right? :D

This is sad. Even I got that joke.

323 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:35:25pm

re: #321 Cato the Elder

So where are you on the 'actually a dude' debate?

324 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:35:36pm

re: #322 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is sad. Even I got that joke.

GEEEEKKKKK!!!!

325 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:36:22pm

re: #291 negativ

He told me later / that the stuff in the bottom / was like 'punching an eclair'

I don't really think Sarah spends much time thinking about the things she says. I think she's exactly what Orwell described as a "duckspeaker". She just puts it on cruise control and whatever she says, she says.

Limbaugh, on the other hand, I think is fully aware of his level of jackassholio, and is in fact proud of it, and believes it to be the Right Way To Think.

The part that's scary with Sister Sarah, is she has a facebook writer on hire, who clarifies the whack tweets for her blind masses. See today's clarification and double downing on the support for Dr. Laura.

326 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:36:39pm

re: #308 darthstar

Lightning - at 9,000 frames per second. Pretty cool shit.

[Link: www.petapixel.com...]

Check these out.

[Link: www.warnerimages.com...]

Timelapse work from the same photographer.

327 Kragar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:37:18pm

Always trust my youngest girl to ask the real tricky questions.

"When did God die?"

Couldn't she just ask about rainbows or something?

328 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:37:27pm

re: #314 Walter L. Newton

Don't program drunk and you won't have that problem down the road.

I've never tried that actually...

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:37:58pm

re: #327 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Always trust my youngest girl to ask the real tricky questions.

"When did God die?"

Couldn't she just ask about rainbows or something?

Wasn't there a Time Magazine cover about that?

330 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:38:03pm

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Congratulations. The clientele are assholes rich hippies with undisciplined obnoxious children but there are bargains to be had. Fish, wine, cheese, lamb etc all at affordable prices.

HEH! Read the salt content, on just about anything they sell.
NOT healthy!

331 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:38:19pm

re: #321 Cato the Elder

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

She's just trying to save what's left of her bony ass.

Mostly its that but I'd also say she has some tactical sense. The birther issue is indeed a loser, and her speaking at a gay event is wise outreach. Farrah's a narrow minded fool whose ideas can only hurt conservatives. Coulter may be using him for a 'Sister Souljah' moment (what Dick Morris refers to as triangulation).

332 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:38:23pm

re: #327 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Always trust my youngest girl to ask the real tricky questions.

"When did God die?"

Couldn't she just ask about rainbows or something?

He was hit by a space ship.

333 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:38:53pm

re: #327 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Shortly after my son began talking, he asked

"how sun come up?"

334 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:39:14pm

re: #323 windsagio

So where are you on the 'actually a dude' debate?

No comment.

But I know she's a perfected Jew,
because her shitmouth doth speak true.

335 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:39:17pm

re: #332 Varek Raith

He was hit by a space ship.

Doing Warp 9...

336 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:40:15pm

re: #298 Stonemason

"But it's worse now."

Birth Certificate
Bow Gate
Marie Antoniette
fuck, I hate typing this shit - first things that come to my mind


Everything that is not based on FACT.

Pull some complaints based on fact that have the USA up in arms & we'll talk.

337 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:40:24pm

re: #327 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Always trust my youngest girl to ask the real tricky questions.

"When did God die?"

Couldn't she just ask about rainbows or something?

Here was my 5-year-old daughter's question, when her kindergarten teacher got pregnant:

Mom - if you get married and don't want to have a baby, how do you keep from having a baby?

Try to answer that one with a response about a stork or whatever. Can. Not. Be. Done.

338 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:40:44pm

re: #335 talon_262

Doing Warp 9...

Worse.
Warp 10.
When the ship reaches infinite velocity and occupies all points in the Universe at once.
Or some such nonsense.

339 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:41:06pm

re: #85 Cato the Elder

Better to be obsessed and smart than obsessed and still a muttonheaded mook.

Methinks you are bigoted against muttonhead mooks.

That's going to be the name of my next band BTW.

340 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:41:18pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Here was my 5-year-old daughter's question, when her kindergarten teacher got pregnant:

Mom - if you get married and don't want to have a baby, how do you keep from having a baby?

Try to answer that one with a response about a stork or whatever. Can. Not. Be. Done.

Easy. Tell her to marry an ugly dude.:)

342 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:41:37pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea


Pull some complaints based on fact that have the USA up in arms & we'll talk.

Requoted for "God why is this so hard for people?"

343 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:41:40pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Here was my 5-year-old daughter's question, when her kindergarten teacher got pregnant:

Mom - if you get married and don't want to have a baby, how do you keep from having a baby?

Try to answer that one with a response about a stork or whatever. Can. Not. Be. Done.

How'd you get out of that one?

344 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:41:56pm

re: #309 Gus 802

What about Hitchens? Hitches is quite the leftist otherwise.

And then he got waterboarded....

345 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:42:10pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Here was my 5-year-old daughter's question, when her kindergarten teacher got pregnant:

Mom - if you get married and don't want to have a baby, how do you keep from having a baby?

Try to answer that one with a response about a stork or whatever. Can. Not. Be. Done.

"Live in different cities!"

346 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:42:15pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Here was my 5-year-old daughter's question, when her kindergarten teacher got pregnant:

Mom - if you get married and don't want to have a baby, how do you keep from having a baby?

Try to answer that one with a response about a stork or whatever. Can. Not. Be. Done.

My son saw one of those "public health" type vending machines in a convenience store restroom. "What's horny goat weed for, Dad?"

I sent him to ask his mother. We played curious child ping pong until I finally had "the talk"

347 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:42:15pm

re: #341 Gus 802

Highly Branched Upward Lightning, 6/22/10


[Video]

Inverted Christmas Tree of DEATH

348 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:42:24pm

Best marriage proposal ever

Image: marriage-proposal.jpg

349 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:42:29pm

re: #338 Varek Raith

Worse.
Warp 10.
When the ship reaches infinite velocity and occupies all points in the Universe at once.
Or some such nonsense.

Then you slowly mutate when you drop back to normal speed.

/Star Trek Voyager

350 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:42:44pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

And then he got waterboarded...

By his own choice.

A man for all seasons.

351 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:43:28pm

re: #347 Varek Raith

Inverted Christmas Tree of DEATH

Bwahahahaha!

352 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:43:42pm

re: #308 darthstar

Lightning - at 9,000 frames per second. Pretty cool shit.

[Link: www.petapixel.com...]

That's amazing.

It also seems to put the lie to the old adage that lightening doesn't strike twice in the same place. It looked to me like several strikes all following the same path (but happening so fast we don't really realize it until we see something like this slow-motion version).

353 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:44:00pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Birth Certificate
Bow Gate
Marie Antoniette
fuck, I hate typing this shit - first things that come to my mind

Everything that is not based on FACT.

Pull some complaints based on fact that have the USA up in arms & we'll talk.

Find a post where I supported any of that shit and we can talk.

354 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:44:09pm

re: #348 cliffster

Best marriage proposal ever

Image: marriage-proposal.jpg

#3 seems a bit much, don't you think? What's he gonna do when she wants a new car for Christmas?

355 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:44:55pm

re: #352 reine.de.tout

That's amazing.

It also seems to put the lie to the old adage that lightening doesn't strike twice in the same place. It looked to me like several strikes all following the same path (but happening so fast we don't really realize it until we see something like this slow-motion version).

All of that vid happened in 3/10s of a second.

356 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:45:26pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

U of Florida guys replicated that.

I missed this. Go Gators!

357 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:45:48pm

Woman asks her husband for a new sports car for their anniversary. The big day comes and he presents her with a 1 carat diamond ring. She says "But I wanted a car!" "Yeah, but where was I gonna find a fake Porshe?" he replies.

358 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:47:01pm

re: #350 Cato the Elder

By his own choice.

A man for all seasons.

Yeah, but his first hand report made me feel very very sick.

359 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:47:24pm

I have a new short-duration hero, and I don't even know her name.
/(manly)swoon_did_I_mention_it_was_manly

Here she is playing Chopin's "Raindrop"

Aaaaaand here she is playing "Love You to Death" by Type O Negative ... arranged for solo piano.

And here she is playing "Raining Blood" by Slayer ... arranged for solo piano.

360 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Birth Certificate
Bow Gate
Marie Antoniette
fuck, I hate typing this shit - first things that come to my mind

Everything that is not based on FACT.

Pull some complaints based on fact that have the USA up in arms & we'll talk.

This is what is called 'moving the goal posts'. I never once mentioned any of the things you pointed out, yet, you use them to attack my tongue in cheek repost of something I have seen many times.

The point, in case you missed it, is that there was BDS, much of which was irrational or based on seriously stretched information and that there is now ODS, based on irrational or seriously stretched information.

If you want to argue that point, I will be happy to do so, I will not, however, argue the insanity that is spewed from either side.

361 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:48:21pm

re: #345 windsagio

"Live in different cities!"

You know what?
I hemmed and hawed and was tongue-tied for about 10 minutes, and she kept saying, "But you're not answering the question!".

Sheesh.

I had purchased a book written for kids, with comic characters, explaining exactly how people "get" babies. I had not thought I would need it so early in her life, but I finally took the damned thing down and went through the book with her. I really just did not know what else to do. Perhaps she was a bit young for it, some folks told me she was and I had done a terrible thing. But 1) I never noticed any terrible results, and 2) she never had a problem talking to me/asking me about anything, and 3) I figure farm kids know all this stuff by the time they're five or six and they don't suffer any apparent ill-effects, so - I just did what I had to do, and didn't worry about it.

362 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:49:33pm

re: #361 reine.de.tout

You know what?
I hemmed and hawed and was tongue-tied for about 10 minutes, and she kept saying, "But you're not answering the question!".

Sheesh.

I had purchased a book written for kids, with comic characters, explaining exactly how people "get" babies. I had not thought I would need it so early in her life, but I finally took the damned thing down and went through the book with her. I really just did not know what else to do. Perhaps she was a bit young for it, some folks told me she was and I had done a terrible thing. But 1) I never noticed any terrible results, and 2) she never had a problem talking to me/asking me about anything, and 3) I figure farm kids know all this stuff by the time they're five or six and they don't suffer any apparent ill-effects, so - I just did what I had to do, and didn't worry about it.

See, I think that's great :)

Not that I'm one to judge, but I think it was absolutely perfect. Most of those kinds of things are about the parents being uncomfortable, not the kids >>

363 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:49:48pm

re: #359 negativ

Linked that to WUB, he should eat it up :D

364 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:50:32pm

re: #358 Stanley Sea

Yeah, but his first hand report made me feel very very sick.

It was his choice.

He did not believe that waterboarding is torture.

After he underwent it himself, he changed his mind.

There is a word for that kind of bravery: "heroic".

And yet a popular Lizard still celebrates waterboarding with every post she posts.

365 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:50:42pm

well I'm gonna go night night...later all...any body interested in forming an MMO LGF guild..email me through my nic..

366 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:51:21pm

re: #330 Floral Giraffe

HEH! Read the salt content, on just about anything they sell.
NOT healthy!

Agreed. I don't buy anything pre-seasoned. It's all way too salty for me.

367 Gus  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:51:28pm

I need to get horizontal.

Later!

368 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:52:09pm

re: #360 Stonemason

You were responding to Cliff:


It really doesn't matter. People hated Bush with such a passion, there were no facts that mattered. That hatred still abounds, it seems, even though most of the people with that irrational hatred probably like Obama, and they can see what happens with the irrational hatred directed at him. Oh well.

Your response, which I took as a mocking:

"But it's worse now."

So in your mind it's just the same as what Bush endured.

I'll leave it at that.

Must get food off the grill.

369 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:53:10pm

re: #299 PT Barnum

My irrational hatred of Bush came after 8 years of dumbfuckery...I don't see most of the Obama haters waited 8 days.

this forever

370 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:54:09pm

Does anyone know if the Dbag from this morning/afternoon got banned?

371 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:54:26pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Birth Certificate
Bow Gate
Marie Antoniette
fuck, I hate typing this shit - first things that come to my mind

Everything that is not based on FACT.

Pull some complaints based on fact that have the USA up in arms & we'll talk.

death panels! Secret muslim! Acornapalooza!

372 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:54:31pm

re: #369 WindUpBird

Iraq was really just about my breaking point. I wasn't a big fan before that, but after... yeah fuck that guy in the ear.

373 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:54:33pm

re: #370 Cannadian Club Akbar

Does anyone know if the Dbag from this morning/afternoon got banned?

I'm still here.

374 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:55:00pm

re: #371 WindUpBird

death panels! Secret muslim! Acornapalooza!


You forgot the big one:


A BLACK MAN AS PRESIDENT!

375 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:56:16pm

re: #371 WindUpBird

death panels! Secret muslim! Acornapalooza!

The Bad Craziness comes fast and think these days, doesn't it?

376 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:56:26pm

re: #374 windsagio

You forgot the big one:

A BLACK MAN AS PRESIDENT!

Half.
/

377 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:56:36pm

re: #372 windsagio

Iraq was really just about my breaking point. I wasn't a big fan before that, but after... yeah fuck that guy in the ear.

Iraq was the point at which i realized the Bush administration was full of shit, Schiavo was the point at which i realized the lunatics had truly taken over the GOP

Schiavo was when the GOP race to become to party of snake-handling mumbo jumbo dominionists really hit its stride

378 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:57:30pm

re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's actually worse. Miscegenation, y'know?

379 Stonemason  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:57:52pm

re: #369 WindUpBird

this forever

Okay, last try.

Anyone remember November and December of 2000? President Bush hadn't even taken office and there were calls for his arrest for 'stealing' the election.

Really, the irrational bullshit starts as soon as one side loses.

380 freetoken  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:57:54pm

BTW, quite a bit of doomerish economic news the past couple of days... thinking about putting up a Pages on it.

Anyone in the mood for some doom?

381 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:58:11pm

re: #377 WindUpBird

Iraq was the point at which i realized the Bush administration was full of shit, Schiavo was the point at which i realized the lunatics had truly taken over the GOP

Schiavo was when the GOP race to become to party of snake-handling mumbo jumbo dominionists really hit its stride

True enough. I suppose the whole administration was a series of "It couldn't possibly get any worse from here" moments >>

382 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:58:45pm

re: #379 Stonemason

do'nt bring up that election :p

That's the only thing that should be ABSOLUTELY of limits on political blogs.

383 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:58:50pm

re: #374 windsagio

You forgot the big one:

A BLACK MAN AS PRESIDENT!

You're going to ding me down, I don't care.

I will tell you in complete honesty, and with a completely straight face, that the only people I was in contact with during the election period, who I ever heard that from, was my liberal friends, who said it was time for a black man to be President, and that's why he was getting their vote.

I suspect they had other reasons for voting for him, as well. But that was the biggie.

I could not and did not argue with them on that particular point. From my viewpoint at the time, I simply would have preferred it to be a different black man, rather than Obama.

384 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 7:59:08pm

re: #371 WindUpBird

death panels! Secret muslim! Acornapalooza!

Employmentgate...

Weekly Jobless Claims Post Surprise Jump, Hit 500,000

And with that good news from the administration... night.

385 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:00:19pm

re: #383 reine.de.tout

Wouldn't actually downding that.

I'd just note that most of the people in question have learned its not acceptable to air their prejudice :P

386 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:00:31pm

re: #343 Dark_Falcon

How'd you get out of that one?

See:
re: #361 reine.de.tout

387 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:01:30pm

re: #385 windsagio

Wouldn't actually downding that.

I'd just note that most of the people in question have learned its not acceptable to air their prejudice :P

eh?
Who are the people in question?
I'm very tired (dorm move-in day today, it was a very hot and very long day), and so a bit slower than usual . . .

388 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:02:10pm

re: #384 Walter L. Newton

Employmentgate...

Weekly Jobless Claims Post Surprise Jump, Hit 500,000

And with that good news from the administration... night.

P.S.

This is the REAL SERIOUS STORY right now in this country, not some waste-all-our-time-deflection-from-the-real-problems-facing-the-country-mosque-bullshit.

389 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:02:34pm

re: #387 reine.de.tout

Very few people who have issues with racism are dumb enough to say 'hey I'm racist!' these days (those awful bumper stickers aside). Its just that so many of the things people went after Obama for are codes or surrogates for racial prejudice (eg the whole Kenya thing).

390 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:02:35pm

re: #353 Stonemason

Find a post where I supported any of that shit and we can talk.

jesus, I would have thought it was patently obvious the conversation wasn't about YOU and YOUR opinion explusively, but about the political climate under Bush and then Obama.

And it is worse now. it's way worse now. Way crazier, way less rooted in fact, way more rooted in racism, in anti-muslim bigotry, in Bircher nonsense, in Bilderburg Group Alex Jones You Can Only Trust What you Hear from Sarah Palin N****R is Awesome As Long as a Conversative Says it American Family Assocation getting a Reacharound from Newt Gingrich loons.

Wow goal-post architect, heal thyself

or maybe just, like, read the damn thread or something, stop wasting our time

391 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:03:00pm

re: #387 reine.de.tout

eh?
Who are the people in question?
I'm very tired (dorm move-in day today, it was a very hot and very long day), and so a bit slower than usual . . .

You are going back to school?

392 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:03:23pm

re: #384 Walter L. Newton

Employmentgate...

Weekly Jobless Claims Post Surprise Jump, Hit 500,000

And with that good news from the administration... night.

No 'gate' there, except for the fact that those numbers mean a good number of Democrat members of Congress are going to get the gate because of them.

393 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:04:05pm

re: #389 windsagio

Very few people who have issues with racism are dumb enough to say 'hey I'm racist!' these days (those awful bumper stickers aside). Its just that so many of the things people went after Obama for are codes or surrogates for racial prejudice (eg the whole Kenya thing).

Well... basically, I can't stand very much about Obama... and you can pin any reason you want on me if it makes you feel good... I don't give a shit.

394 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:04:30pm
395 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:04:36pm

re: #389 windsagio

Very few people who have issues with racism are dumb enough to say 'hey I'm racist!' these days (those awful bumper stickers aside). Its just that so many of the things people went after Obama for are codes or surrogates for racial prejudice (eg the whole Kenya thing).

Oh.
Yes, what you say is true. I thought the Kenya thing, the birth cert stuff, etc., was just stupid, and none of that played into my decision.

396 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:04:48pm

re: #393 Walter L. Newton

You've been so combative the last few days. Job got you down?

397 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:04pm

re: #395 reine.de.tout

Oh.
Yes, what you say is true. I thought the Kenya thing, the birth cert stuff, etc., was just stupid, and none of that played into my decision.

I also don't think you're racist :P

398 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:07pm

re: #396 windsagio

You've been so combative the last few days. Job got you down?

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

399 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:16pm

re: #391 Walter L. Newton

You are going back to school?

*sob*
My precious baby daughter, who yesterday I put on a school bus for her first day of kindergarten, moved into a COLLEGE DORM today.
It's mighty quiet here tonight.

400 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:37pm

this magical balance fairy equivalency rap, Bush-was-a-victim-poor-poor-Bush jive, it's just the dullest playskool argument, it's tinkertoys

the people pushing this jive think eating soap gets them clean

401 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:40pm

re: #396 windsagio

You've been so combative the last few days. Job got you down?

The last few days? Are you new here?

402 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:50pm

re: #397 windsagio

I also don't think you're racist :P

Aw.
Merci!
I don't think I am either.
I keep a close eye on my notions.

403 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:05:57pm

re: #396 windsagio

You've been so combative the last few days. Job got you down?

And don't waste you deflections on me, don't work. Not even a nice try Windy. Transparent.

404 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:06:38pm

re: #401 Cannadian Club Akbar

The last few days? Are you new here?

Touche! It's been worse lately tho'.

405 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:07:06pm

re: #404 windsagio

Touche! It's been worse lately tho'.

It's 'cause Steve's missing; somebody had to take up the slack.

406 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:07:08pm

re: #403 Walter L. Newton

>>

407 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:07:16pm

re: #403 Walter L. Newton

How am I deflecting from you saying "I dont' give a shit"?

There's nothing to deflect.

408 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:07:29pm

re: #400 WindUpBird

this magical balance fairy equivalency rap, Bush-was-a-victim-poor-poor-Bush jive, it's just the dullest playskool argument, it's tinkertoys

the people pushing this jive think eating soap gets them clean

Why, yes I do.

409 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:07:57pm

re: #401 Cannadian Club Akbar

The last few days? Are you new here?

It's easier than addressing the subject I brought up. Windy will just make believe he's being cute and clever, and hopefully no one will start talking about the economy going into the dumps.

410 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:08:15pm

re: #405 reine.de.tout

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXXXXXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?

411 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:08:49pm

re: #405 reine.de.tout

It's 'cause Steve's missing; somebody had to take up the slack.

Speaking of, where's Brookly? I, for a moment, thought that he and steve were the same person! Both out.

412 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:09:02pm

re: #396 windsagio

You've been so combative the last few days. Job got you down?

He's not a fan of Obama..... what does that have to do with his job?

413 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:09:14pm

re: #410 windsagio

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?

woooo!

I think XXX has too much time on his/her/its hands.
Really, now.
They are obviously different.

414 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:09:15pm

re: #407 windsagio

How am I deflecting from you saying "I dont' give a shit"?

There's nothing to deflect.

You're sidetracking the very important issue of Walter not giving a shit.

415 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:10:04pm

re: #410 windsagio

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?

Nope. They've fought often enough, and they're different enough. It's just a coincidence.

416 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:10:41pm

re: #410 windsagio

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?

I know Steve personally, and I have bantered back and forth with Brookly about our mutual place of birth, Brooklyn. Steve doesn't know diddly about NYC, Brookly does intimately.

Nice try.

417 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:10:57pm

re: #413 reine.de.tout

wooo!

I think XXX has too much time on his/her/its hands.
Really, now.
They are obviously different.

A quick check shows brookly was here and commenting on Saturday.
The day after Steve's surgery.
So - no.

418 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:11:00pm

re: #399 reine.de.tout

*sob*
My precious baby daughter, who yesterday I put on a school bus for her first day of kindergarten, moved into a COLLEGE DORM today.
It's mighty quiet here tonight.

LOL!
You can't wait, admit it.
Well, in SOME ways...
*smooch*

419 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:11:23pm

re: #383 reine.de.tout

You're going to ding me down, I don't care.

I will tell you in complete honesty, and with a completely straight face, that the only people I was in contact with during the election period, who I ever heard that from, was my liberal friends, who said it was time for a black man to be President, and that's why he was getting their vote.

I suspect they had other reasons for voting for him, as well. But that was the biggie.

I could not and did not argue with them on that particular point. From my viewpoint at the time, I simply would have preferred it to be a different black man, rather than Obama.

I think that if Obama wasn't a respected and dedicated Democrat, your friends would probably have thought twice despite his race. Actually, there wasn't much sunlight between Obama and Hillary. I think with Hillary, she was more conservative and older. Obama offered some young blood, along with everything else. I started out as a Hillary supporter, and was ok switching over.

420 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:11:27pm

re: #399 reine.de.tout

*sob*
My precious baby daughter, who yesterday I put on a school bus for her first day of kindergarten, moved into a COLLEGE DORM today.
It's mighty quiet here tonight.

Reine - my little girl is four. I know you're thinking, "cliffster doesn't understand yet". But I do. Four happened so fast! And I'm so conscious of the fact that, no matter what, that day when I load up her trunk and send her off is going to come. I have a hard time dealing with it now. I'm going to be such a mess on her wedding night.

I hope you go on a trip, catch up on some reading, and enjoy SLEEPING!!

421 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:11:52pm

Heh, Somebody outed herself :)

422 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:11:56pm

re: #416 Walter L. Newton

I know Steve personally, and I have bantered back and forth with Brookly about our mutual place of birth, Brooklyn. Steve doesn't know diddly about NYC, Brookly does intimately.

Nice try.

They all look alike.

423 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:12:08pm

re: #416 Walter L. Newton

So hostile!

424 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:12:15pm

re: #418 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You can't wait, admit it.
Well, in SOME ways...
*smooch*

Hello, Floral! How's the air up there?

425 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:12:30pm

re: #417 reine.de.tout

A quick check shows brookly was here and commenting on Saturday.
The day after Steve's surgery.
So - no.

A quick check and the day after the operation, Steve was doing a happy dance with some Dilantim... I can assure you he was not posting on LGF, under any account.

426 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:12:31pm

re: #418 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You can't wait, admit it.
Well, in SOME ways...
*smooch*

backatcha!
I'm actually very excited for her.
She was having second thoughts yesterday, about the move, talking about staying home.
But she really got into it today.

427 wee fury  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:12:43pm

re: #410 windsagio

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?


Conspiracy theories bug me.

428 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:13:00pm

re: #427 wee fury

Conspiracy theories bug me.

I think they're funny personally :)

429 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:13:20pm

re: #423 windsagio

So hostile!

So what?

430 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:13:37pm

re: #420 cliffster

Reine - my little girl is four. I know you're thinking, "cliffster doesn't understand yet". But I do. Four happened so fast! And I'm so conscious of the fact that, no matter what, that day when I load up her trunk and send her off is going to come. I have a hard time dealing with it now. I'm going to be such a mess on her wedding night.

I hope you go on a trip, catch up on some reading, and enjoy SLEEPING!!

Cliffster - by the time the time gets there, she will be ready, and it will be painful to let go, but you know what - it will be time, and you'll know it, and you'll know it's the right thing, and you'll be excited FOR your kid. It'll be OK, trust me.

431 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:13:39pm

re: #423 windsagio

Don't be an ass. You're just baiting Walter now.

432 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:13:57pm

re: #429 Walter L. Newton

So what?

so... *sob*

I... I thought... *cry*

I thought we were friends!!! *Runs off bawling*

433 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:14:22pm

re: #431 Dark_Falcon

Don't be an ass. You're just baiting Walter now.

LOL.

434 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:14:34pm

re: #431 Dark_Falcon

because he totally doesn't do that :p

I'm a big fan of give and take, and I trust Walter to be big enough to take it ;)

435 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:14:48pm

I said I was going to bed 15 minutes ago... now really out.

436 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:14:51pm

re: #410 windsagio

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?

LOL LOL

437 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:15:15pm

re: #388 Walter L. Newton

P.S.

This is the REAL SERIOUS STORY right now in this country, not some waste-all-our-time-deflection-from-the-real-proble ms-facing-the-country-mosque-bullshit.

Structural unemployment up to about twelve percent is part of the capitalist program.

You know, keeping a nice little reserve of starving people to work for whatever shit jobs are on offer.

If I be one of the "structurals", sucks be to me.

Not that any of that makes Windy less of a fart in a whirlwind.

438 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:15:19pm

re: #436 Stanley Sea

The timing was brilliant :D

re: #435 Walter L. Newton


Don't let the bedbugs bite!

439 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:15:30pm

re: #14 Shiplord Kirel

It's not hyperbole at all to call them the greatest generation.

440 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:15:37pm

re: #419 marjoriemoon

I think that if Obama wasn't a respected and dedicated Democrat, your friends would probably have thought twice despite his race. Actually, there wasn't much sunlight between Obama and Hillary. I think with Hillary, she was more conservative and older. Obama offered some young blood, along with everything else. I started out as a Hillary supporter, and was ok switching over.

That's prolly what happened with my friends.
I just found it odd that if politics came up, that would be the very first thing they would say to me about why they thought it was important to vote for him. I never believed it was their only reason; it just seemed odd it was the only reason they wanted to disclose to me.

441 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:15:39pm

re: #437 Cato the Elder

OH COME ON!

442 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:16:33pm

I'm gonna tell a dirty joke.

Cover your ears.

443 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:16:41pm

re: #441 windsagio

OH COME ON!

Second shift is in... I'm off. Cato... take over.

444 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:16:45pm

APARTMENT for RENT

A businessman met a beautiful girl and agreed to spend the night with her for $500. They did their thing, and, before he left, he told her that he did
not have any cash with him, but he would have his secretary write a check and mail it to her, calling the payment 'RENT FOR APARTMENT.'

On the way to the office, he regretted what he had done, realizing that the whole event had not been worth the price. So he had his secretary send a check for $250 and enclose the following typed note:


'Dear Madam:
Enclosed find a check for $250 for rent of your apartment . I am not sending the amount agreed upon, because when I rented the place, I was under the impression that:
#1 - it had never been occupied;
#2 - there was plenty of heat; and
#3 - it was small enough to make me feel cozy and at home.
However, I found out that:
#1 - it had been previously occupied,
#2 - there wasn't any heat, and
#3 - it was entirely too large.'

Upon receipt of the note, the girl immediately
returned the check for $250 with the following note:


'Dear Sir:
#1 - I cannot understand how you could expect a beautiful apartment to remain unoccupied indefinitely.
#2 - As for the heat, there is plenty of it, if you
know how to turn it on.
#3 - Regarding the space, the apartment is indeed of regular size, but if you don't have enough furniture to fill it, please do not blame the management.

So, Please send the rent in full or we will be forced to contact your present landlady...

445 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:17:12pm

re: #443 Walter L. Newton

Don't make me bring out the big guns, I can take this thread down!

446 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:17:17pm

re: #441 windsagio

*cheesy profound voice*
And so it begins again...

447 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:18:52pm

re: #428 windsagio

I think they're funny personally :)

My favorite, that I can type from memory:

They could be a 23 year old Vietnamese guy with a personality disorder.

Really, other than Walter's face-to-faces, how do we know?

Ah, the internet!

448 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:18:59pm

re: #446 Nimed

*cheesy profound voice*
And so it begins again...

"Another fighter on the Stage of History"

449 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:19:31pm

re: #448 windsagio

"Another fighter on the Stage of History"

Soul Caliber?

450 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:19:32pm

re: #447 Stanley Sea

My favorite, that I can type from memory:

They could be a 23 year old Vietnamese guy with a personality disorder.

Really, other than Walter's face-to-faces, how do we know?

Ah, the internet!

Well, WUB and I are actually the same person, so I shouldn't talk.

451 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:19:41pm

re: #449 Varek Raith

Good catch :D

452 wee fury  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:20:08pm

re: #444 Racer X

You said to cover my ears.
You mislead me.
It should have been cover my eyes.
Liar.
///////

453 wee fury  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:20:48pm

re: #452 wee fury

You said to cover my ears.
You mislead me.
It should have been cover my eyes.
Liar.
///

and . . . ;-)

454 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:20:56pm

re: #445 windsagio

Don't make me bring out the big guns, I can take this thread down!

No kiddin' You're certainly bringing this thread down.

455 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:21:01pm

re: #444 Racer X

APARTMENT for RENT

A businessman met a beautiful girl and agreed to spend the night with her for $500. They did their thing, and, before he left, he told her that he did
not have any cash with him, but he would have his secretary write a check and mail it to her, calling the payment 'RENT FOR APARTMENT.'

On the way to the office, he regretted what he had done, realizing that the whole event had not been worth the price. So he had his secretary send a check for $250 and enclose the following typed note:

'Dear Madam:
Enclosed find a check for $250 for rent of your apartment . I am not sending the amount agreed upon, because when I rented the place, I was under the impression that:
#1 - it had never been occupied;
#2 - there was plenty of heat; and
#3 - it was small enough to make me feel cozy and at home.
However, I found out that:
#1 - it had been previously occupied,
#2 - there wasn't any heat, and
#3 - it was entirely too large.'

Upon receipt of the note, the girl immediately
returned the check for $250 with the following note:

'Dear Sir:
#1 - I cannot understand how you could expect a beautiful apartment to remain unoccupied indefinitely.
#2 - As for the heat, there is plenty of it, if you
know how to turn it on.
#3 - Regarding the space, the apartment is indeed of regular size, but if you don't have enough furniture to fill it, please do not blame the management.

So, Please send the rent in full or we will be forced to contact your present landlady...


I'm laughing out loud.
Loved it.

456 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:21:16pm

re: #447 Stanley Sea

My favorite, that I can type from memory:

They could be a 23 year old Vietnamese guy with a personality disorder.

Really, other than Walter's face-to-faces, how do we know?

Ah, the internet!

I am God's sock

457 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:21:17pm

re: #452 wee fury

You said to cover my ears.
You mislead me.
It should have been cover my eyes.
Liar.
///

X lied.
Laughter died.

458 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:21:30pm

re: #454 Mr Pancakes

No kiddin' You're certainly bringing this thread down.

Its like my own personal minuature fan club.

459 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:21:53pm

re: #450 windsagio

Well, WUB and I are actually the same person, so I shouldn't talk.

No, your not the same person, that I can tell.
I think WUB is really your invisible friend, though.

460 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:22:35pm

re: #458 windsagio

Its like my own personal minuature fan club.

You have fans? Cool.

461 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:22:51pm
462 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:23:20pm

re: #459 reine.de.tout

No, your not the same person, that I can tell.
I think WUB is really your invisible friend, though.

He's the wind beneath my internet-arguing wings!

463 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:23:25pm

re: #459 reine.de.tout

No, your not the same person, that I can tell.
I think WUB is really your invisible friend, though.

464 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:23:34pm

re: #456 cliffster

I am God's sock

Dude, I was always thinking some sports angle.

465 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:24:03pm

re: #441 windsagio

OH COME ON!

I just did.

Want more?

Just ask.

466 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:24:59pm

re: #428 windsagio

I think they're funny personally :)

Here is the very best, really awful conspiracy theory book I've ever come across.

Dr. Mary's Monkey.

I mean, read this blurb:

The 1964 murder of a nationally known cancer researcher sets the stage for this gripping exposé of medical professionals enmeshed in covert government operations over the course of three decades. Following a trail of police records, FBI files, cancer statistics, and medical journals, this revealing book presents evidence of a web of medical secret-keeping that began with the handling of evidence in the JFK assassination and continued apace, sweeping doctors into coverups of cancer outbreaks, contaminated polio vaccine, the arrival of the AIDS virus, and biological weapon research using infected monkeys

I quit reading by about Chapter 4, couldn't keep up, it was an amazing mish-mash of everything thrown in together.

467 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:25:54pm

re: #448 windsagio

"Another fighter on the Stage of History"

You couldn't get on
the stage of Historia
if you swore to stop stalking
her sister Gloria.

468 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:25:58pm

re: #465 Cato the Elder

I just did.

Want more?

Just ask.

The problem is I think the rest of the community (and our Host) would get really annoyed with us. I'm always game to rumble, but I try to have some community awareness :p

469 Racer X  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:26:09pm

Rageboner!

470 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:26:37pm

re: #464 Stanley Sea

Dude, I was always thinking some sports angle.

well, I'm Emmitt Smith's sock too. Same thing, though

471 Varek Raith  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:26:58pm

re: #467 Cato the Elder

re: #468 windsagio

Sling shots at twenty paces!

472 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:27:25pm

re: #469 Racer X

Rageboner!

that was funny at first, but it's really starting to piss me off now.

473 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:27:40pm

re: #455 reine.de.tout

I'm laughing out loud.
Loved it.

Me two. Well done, Racer!

474 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:27:43pm

re: #471 Varek Raith

re: #468 windsagio

Sling shots at twenty paces!

I own a wrist rocket. And a blow dart gun.

475 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:27:56pm

re: #468 windsagio

The problem is I think the rest of the community (and our Host) would get really annoyed with us. I'm always game to rumble, but I try to have some community awareness :p

Wimp! It's sad to see that you have mellowed.

476 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:28:00pm

re: #471 Varek Raith

I'm still kinda irked that DF said he'd take me apart, my e-peen is at stake!

477 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:28:15pm

re: #468 windsagio

The problem is I think the rest of the community (and our Host) would get really annoyed with us. I'm always game to rumble, but I try to have some community awareness :p

Moonbat rageboner.

Someone doesn't agree with you, and you run to hide in Charles's skirts.

Simp. Wimp. Leftist pimp.

478 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:28:59pm

re: #477 Cato the Elder

Moonbat rageboner.

Someone doesn't agree with you, and you run to hide in Charles's skirts.

Simp. Wimp. Leftist pimp.

Anyways, you do my work for me by acting like this. You harass me, I sit back, I win by default.

479 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:29:20pm

PS: Every use of 'rageboner', you have to give WUB a quarter. He takes paypal.

480 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:29:34pm

re: #471 Varek Raith

re: #468 windsagio

Sling shots at twenty paces!

No Cato's Roman. Pilum at the same distance!

481 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:30:56pm

re: #479 windsagio

PS: Every use of 'rageboner', you have to give WUB a quarter. He takes paypal.

Where does he take PayPal?

482 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:31:05pm

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

The only problem I have with the duel metaphor is that it really is somewhat of a misrepresentation.

This is more like Germany going after the Czech Republic, when you get right down to it.

483 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:31:07pm

re: #478 windsagio

Anyways, you do my work for me by acting like this. You harass me, I sit back, I win by default.

I give you the same treatment as Coulter, Spencer, and Shrieks.

When I give it to them, you upding me.

When you get it, you whine about "harassment".

You win nothing except cheese with your whine.

484 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:31:09pm

re: #466 reine.de.tout

Hey reine, so, mmm, I finally returned to your Jon Haidt page (sorry, I completely forgot to check the LGF folder of my email until now). Turns out I had already done the questionnaire. Here are my results:

[Link: www.yourmorals.org...]

I checked yours too. It turns out you have an overall conservative leaning profile, as expected.

485 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:32:10pm

re: #483 Cato the Elder

Lol you really do wanna fight, don't you?

486 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:32:51pm

re: #277 reine.de.tout

Yes indeed.

487 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:34:06pm

The difference between Mandy and Windsagio?

Mandy can express herself in words.

Windy relies on emoticons.

488 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:34:27pm

re: #485 windsagio

Lol you really do wanna fight, don't you?

You said you really want to fight don't you.

489 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:35:35pm

I see that the flamethrower has be turned on tonight.

490 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:35:54pm

*sigh*

ok guess I'll take a break for a while.

Sucks being good sometimes >>

491 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:36:14pm

re: #484 Nimed

Hey reine, so, mmm, I finally returned to your Jon Haidt page (sorry, I completely forgot to check the LGF folder of my email until now). Turns out I had already done the questionnaire. Here are my results:

[Link: www.yourmorals.org...]

I checked yours too. It turns out you have an overall conservative leaning profile, as expected.

OK, I couldn't figure out the profile (duh). When I look at yours and then mine, and various numbers are different (those numbers at the top - blue = whatever - why are those different for me than for you? Is that not the number of people? What are those numbers? , but I scored higher than liberals (??) on some (confused the hell out of me) - well, anyhow, I couldn't figure it out.

492 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:37:15pm

re: #476 windsagio

I'm still kinda irked that DF said he'd take me apart, my e-peen is at stake!

DF's lines often remind me of those Dragon Ball narrators who would comment the fights in the sidelines.
(my excuse: nephews)

493 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:38:14pm

re: #490 windsagio

*sigh*

ok guess I'll take a break for a while.

Sucks being good sometimes >>

Gosh..... I guess Cato gets a "high five".

494 deranged cat  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:38:51pm

re: #16 Bubblehead II

Beware the Graboids.

The Life of a Graboid

seriously, this video is amazing.

495 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:38:53pm

re: #492 Nimed

DF's lines often remind me of those Dragon Ball narrators who would comment the fights in the sidelines.
(my excuse: nephews)

Why so you say that?

496 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:39:34pm

re: #490 windsagio

Restraint is rarely rewarded on the 'nets. Those rare occasions are most often here though. Coincidence? I say not.

497 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:41:02pm

re: #490 windsagio

*sigh*

ok guess I'll take a break for a while.

Sucks being good sometimes >>

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

498 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:43:05pm

More egg poop:

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said this week that it had seen a fourfold increase in the usual number of cases of salmonella enteritidis, a strain associated with eggs. The CDC said it received reports of about 200 enteritidis cases every week during late June and early July. More than 260 illnesses in California have been linked to the outbreak. Minnesota has tied at least seven salmonella illnesses to the eggs.

No deaths have been reported, said Christopher Braden, a CDC epidemiologist.

The DeCoster operations have had several violations:

• The founder, Austin Jackson DeCoster, pleaded guilty to federal immigration charges in 2003 and paid a record $2.1 million in penalties.

• In 2002, the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission imposed a $1.5 million penalty for mistreatment of female workers, including charges of rape, sexual harassment and other abuse.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

499 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:43:32pm

Okay...duck breast with balsamic/fig reduction report time...FUCKIN' DO THIS! It's fig season!

Take about four, five, or six figs, chop into bits (quarters are fine, they break down). Put a dollop of olive oil and a chunk of butter in a pan, heat. Add figs. Put about a 1/4 cup of red wine and a few tablespoons of balsamic vineger in, and simmer. Take a pinch of sugar (I used raw sugar, but a pinch of refined--white shit--sugar should work as well, or use brown sugar). Reduce until it makes a good sauce.

Drizzle over grilled duck breast, pork chops, lamb chops or chicken (if you use duck breast, score the fat in a criss-cross pattern so it doesn't curl when you cook it).

It's pretty fuckin' good, if I must say so.

500 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:44:36pm

re: #498 jaunte

More egg poop:

More "egg poop"?
LOL.
Sorry, that just struck me as hilarious!
Am I overtired? mebbe.

See you folks tomorrow.

501 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:44:39pm

re: #499 darthstar

Have you ever had freshly made, Italian fig cookies? They make Fig Newtons taste like a nasty joke.

502 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:45:01pm

re: #499 darthstar

Why do you hate refinement?

503 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:45:02pm

re: #491 reine.de.tout

OK, I couldn't figure out the profile (duh). When I look at yours and then mine, and various numbers are different (those numbers at the top - blue = whatever - why are those different for me than for you? Is that not the number of people? What are those numbers? , but I scored higher than liberals (??) on some (confused the hell out of me) - well, anyhow, I couldn't figure it out.

Right, the way I interpret this sort of questionnaires is that everybody has a sort of "absolute shift" bias. You tend to score higher in all dimensions, freetoken tends to score lower (it would be pretty easy to normalize the results to correct for that, but they just give the raw scores).

I believe the overall pattern gives more information than the absolute scores in this case. Except for "authority", you give more or less the same importance to all dimensions, which corresponds more to the conservative profile.

504 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:45:03pm

re: #499 darthstar

Okay...duck breast with balsamic/fig reduction report time...FUCKIN' DO THIS! It's fig season!

Take about four, five, or six figs, chop into bits (quarters are fine, they break down). Put a dollop of olive oil and a chunk of butter in a pan, heat. Add figs. Put about a 1/4 cup of red wine and a few tablespoons of balsamic vineger in, and simmer. Take a pinch of sugar (I used raw sugar, but a pinch of refined--white shit--sugar should work as well, or use brown sugar). Reduce until it makes a good sauce.

Drizzle over grilled duck breast, pork chops, lamb chops or chicken (if you use duck breast, score the fat in a criss-cross pattern so it doesn't curl when you cook it).

It's pretty fuckin' good, if I must say so.

I don't know if I've ever seen duck in the store.

505 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:45:28pm

re: #283 cliffster

What we know is that there was plenty of evidence that there were WMD's, and that either way everyone agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. Everyone said that. Everyone.

And that is the bottom line.

Not that it matters now, but at the time I didn't have any problem with invading Iraq. It was mostly for emotional reasons unrelated to WMDs. Saddam was the living stereotype of a dictatorial asshat. Just watch the video of the purge of the Baath party when he first came to power. Just as a matter of morality, I don't believe situations like those should be allowed to persist. I also realize that, in the real world, a position like that is extremely perilous at best and is no basis for a workable foreign policy, shitty though the consequences may be.

As time went on, however, I began having huge problems with the war. When info started to trickle in about under-armored and inadequately-equipped soldiers and their vehicles being converted into pasty pink mist as a direct result of Rumsfeld's "you go to war with the army you have, so man up and go suck it" mindset, I was extremely disheartened. The longer it dragged on, the more obvious it became that Iraq was a fiasco of historical proportions. To this day I don't have the slighest idea what the real motivation was to invade. I don't think they ever believed there was a serious WMD threat, especially when the terrorist presence in Afghanistan, and the not merely suspected WMD threat from Pakistan and North Korea (along with several former Soviet satellites) were blatant and not really matters up for debate.

I think they probably really did believe they could steamroll Iraq and be in and out in 6 months, because they had not the slightest idea what they were dealing with. At one point, the guy in charge of counterterrorism at the FBI testified to Congress that he not only didn't know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiah Muslim, but he also didn't think it made any difference. Cue Iraqi civil war that's still blazing.

We went into Iraq head stationed firmly up ass, and it's damned shameful, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that Afghanistan (the actual breeding ground of al Qaeda, remember?) was put on the back burner for YEARS while we sent kids to Iraq to die for no discernible reason whatsoever.

I am also continually astonished that Gen. Petraeus -- so far about the only CENTCOM guy who seems to know what the fuck he's doing -- gets insulted by the left (herpty derp General BetrayUs) for not declaring the US government to be the worst bunch of war criminals since the Khmer Rouge, and by the right for pointing out the counterproductive nature of "enhanced interrogation" techniques, for emphasizing the importance of avoiding civilian casualties in a counterinsurgency effort, and for understanding that the kind of war we're fighting is won long-term on a small scale; it's more advantageous to befriend a neighborhood that's home to three bad guys than it is to firebomb a village that's home to 100.

blah blah blah, never mind.

506 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:46:25pm

re: #499 darthstar

Okay...duck breast with balsamic/fig reduction report time...FUCKIN' DO THIS! It's fig season!

Take about four, five, or six figs, chop into bits (quarters are fine, they break down). Put a dollop of olive oil and a chunk of butter in a pan, heat. Add figs. Put about a 1/4 cup of red wine and a few tablespoons of balsamic vineger in, and simmer. Take a pinch of sugar (I used raw sugar, but a pinch of refined--white shit--sugar should work as well, or use brown sugar). Reduce until it makes a good sauce.

Drizzle over grilled duck breast, pork chops, lamb chops or chicken (if you use duck breast, score the fat in a criss-cross pattern so it doesn't curl when you cook it).

It's pretty fuckin' good, if I must say so.

Before you leave, Reine, save this one for the 3rd volume of the Cookbook!

507 shai_au  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:46:44pm

Not really looking forward to voting in the Australian election tomorrow. My guess is that Julia Gillard will scrape in, but most likely as a result of Greens preferences.

But I don't find either of the major parties to be that inspiring. In fact, I positively loathe that they have encouraged the populist bullshit over our asylum-seeking boatpeople "problem". It's a bit like the "Ground Zero" mosque thing in your country, in that few politicians have the guts to stand up and tell their electorates that - shock! horror! - they have been misinformed about an issue.

And neither of them seem to give two shits about foreign policy, although Gillard will certainly have expertise on her side if Kevin Rudd becomes Foreign Minister.

Seriously thinking about a Greens protest vote here...

508 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:48:15pm

re: #507 shai_au

Boat people from? Link or fill me in please.

509 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:48:20pm

re: #506 Dark_Falcon

Before you leave, Reine, save this one for the 3rd volume of the Cookbook!

How does one submit a recipe? I've got a great one I'd like to share.

510 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:48:30pm

re: #495 Dark_Falcon

Why so you say that?

I don't mean to offend. Sometimes you say something like "You don't want to get into a fight with commenter X, s/he would demolish you".

511 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:49:00pm

Talk about living in the past...

A team of Israeli scientists has worked out that the human brains magical ability to slow time indicates that our present is an unreliable memory played nanoseconds too late .

Researcher David Eagleman worked out that when time seems to slow down in real life, our senses and cognition must somehow speed up. Either that, or time is an illusion and lunchtime doubly so.

Faced with lots of reports from people who claim that "time slowed down" Eagleman wondered if the experience of slow motion really happens or does it only seem to have happened in retrospect?

SNIP

512 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:49:20pm

re: #283 cliffster

What we know is that there was plenty of evidence that there were WMD's, and that either way everyone agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. Everyone said that. Everyone.

And that is the bottom line.

Fuck the bottom line.

What I would like to see, someday, is your definition of "everyone".

513 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:50:02pm

re: #280 Jeff In Ohio

re: #170 researchok

Sorry, had to put the little one to bed. I've not been to the beaches south of WIlmington in ages. The girls and I are planning to spend a few weeks next summer traveling the Atlantic coast. We'll take a look at those beaches.

Mrytle Beach is overrated. However, it might be worth a stop just to have something to compare the southern beaches to.

514 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:50:30pm

re: #505 negativ

Not that it matters now, but at the time I didn't have any problem with invading Iraq. It was mostly for emotional reasons unrelated to WMDs. Saddam was the living stereotype of a dictatorial asshat. Just watch the video of the purge of the Baath party when he first came to power. Just as a matter of morality, I don't believe situations like those should be allowed to persist. I also realize that, in the real world, a position like that is extremely perilous at best and is no basis for a workable foreign policy, shitty though the consequences may be.

As time went on, however, I began having huge problems with the war. When info started to trickle in about under-armored and inadequately-equipped soldiers and their vehicles being converted into pasty pink mist as a direct result of Rumsfeld's "you go to war with the army you have, so man up and go suck it" mindset, I was extremely disheartened. The longer it dragged on, the more obvious it became that Iraq was a fiasco of historical proportions. To this day I don't have the slighest idea what the real motivation was to invade. I don't think they ever believed there was a serious WMD threat, especially when the terrorist presence in Afghanistan, and the not merely suspected WMD threat from Pakistan and North Korea (along with several former Soviet satellites) were blatant and not really matters up for debate.

I think they probably really did believe they could steamroll Iraq and be in and out in 6 months, because they had not the slightest idea what they were dealing with. At one point, the guy in charge of counterterrorism at the FBI testified to Congress that he not only didn't know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiah Muslim, but he also didn't think it made any difference. Cue Iraqi civil war that's still blazing.

We went into Iraq head stationed firmly up ass, and it's damned shameful, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that Afghanistan (the actual breeding ground of al Qaeda, remember?) was put on the back burner for YEARS while we sent kids to Iraq to die for no discernible reason whatsoever.

I am also continually astonished that Gen. Petraeus -- so far about the only CENTCOM guy who seems to know what the fuck he's doing -- gets insulted by the left (herpty derp General BetrayUs) for not declaring the US government to be the worst bunch of war criminals since the Khmer Rouge, and by the right for pointing out the counterproductive nature of "enhanced interrogation" techniques, for emphasizing the importance of avoiding civilian casualties in a counterinsurgency effort, and for understanding that the kind of war we're fighting is won long-term on a small scale; it's more advantageous to befriend a neighborhood that's home to three bad guys than it is to firebomb a village that's home to 100.

blah blah blah, never mind.

The reason ideologues hate Petraeus is that he does not fit their mold, either that of the left or right. He cares about doing his job and sets his plans accordingly. He's a free thinker, and like all such people he catches flak from those who find free thinkers a threat,

515 Interesting Times  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:51:08pm

re: #507 shai_au

Seriously thinking about a Greens protest vote here...

Sympathy upding (political parties in Canada are also immensely uninspiring at the moment). In your case (if you decide against the protest vote), I'd recommend going for whichever candidate has at least somewhat better policies re the environment.

(does Australia still have a huge water crisis in some areas? Haven't researched this lately...)

516 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:51:54pm

re: #512 Cato the Elder

Fuck the bottom line.

What I would like to see, someday, is your definition of "everyone".

How about, "everyone that matters"? I take it they didn't check with you - a grievous oversight.

517 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:52:04pm

re: #510 Nimed

I don't mean to offend. Sometimes you say something like "You don't want to get into a fight with commenter X, s/he would demolish you".

I understand. I saw that sort of stuff to both please the person being baited (to keep them from getting mad) and to warn off the baiter.

518 prairiefire  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:52:25pm

I think I need another pill. I need to figure out which one. I think it is the mega watt ibuprofen.
Night, lizards.

519 shai_au  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:52:28pm

re: #508 Rightwingconspirator

Boat people from? Link or fill me in please.


An assortment of countries, including Sri Lanka and Afghanistan. But more directly from Indonesia, being ferried over by paid "people smugglers".

Annually, the percentage of "boatpeople" in our immigration intake is about 1.4%, but the popular belief is that its much higher than that. Hence this rhetoric about us being "swamped by boatpeople".

I'm looking for a link, but that's a general outline.

520 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:52:39pm

All I'm gonna say about Iraq is at this point in time there's no point crying over the proverbial spilled (or non-existent) milk, and the best we can do now is leave it a better place than we went in.

/and that's all I got to say about that. :B

//also I made my #511 into an LGF page.

521 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:53:17pm

re: #512 Cato the Elder

Fuck the bottom line.

What I would like to see, someday, is your definition of "everyone".

"Everyone" has a special meaning here -- 44% of the American public. 54% say the war was a mistake.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]

522 darthstar  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:53:19pm

re: #506 Dark_Falcon

Before you leave, Reine, save this one for the 3rd volume of the Cookbook!

Well, if she does, let me clean up the language first..."grab some fuckin' figs" isn't something I think I've ever seen in a cookbook before.

523 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:53:33pm

re: #487 Cato the Elder

Give me a break Cato. Wind doesn't have any hate in him. You may disagree with what he says, but Wind has no hate.

The person you compared him to?

OH COME ON!

524 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:53:53pm

re: #518 prairiefire

I think I need another pill. I need to figure out which one. I think it is the mega watt ibuprofen.
Night, lizards.

Sleep well, prairiefire!

525 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:55:16pm

re: #520 laZardo

All I'm gonna say about Iraq is at this point in time there's no point crying over the proverbial spilled (or non-existent) milk, and the best we can do now is leave it a better place than we went in.

/and that's all I got to say about that. :B

//also I made my #511 into an LGF page.

True that.

526 shai_au  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:55:24pm

re: #515 publicityStunted

(does Australia still have a huge water crisis in some areas? Haven't researched this lately...)


It's still a problem, but we're not quite as fucked as we were a couple of years ago. In Victoria at least, it seems like we've been getting a lot more rain. The dam storage has been going up for a couple of years now, which is surely a good sign.

527 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:55:25pm

re: #513 prairiefire

Mrytle Beach is overrated. However, it might be worth a stop just to have something to compare the southern beaches to.

Come out to Coronado in San Diego...... you will not be disappointed.

528 cliffster  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:57:15pm
529 freetoken  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:58:28pm

re: #527 Mr Pancakes

Come out to Coronado in San Diego... you will not be disappointed.

JUST DON'T MOVE HERE!

530 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:59:09pm

George W. Bush made good on what the UN threatened to do. He went and got 1441 first, then enforced it.

531 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:59:21pm

re: #516 cliffster

How about, "everyone that matters"? I take it they didn't check with you - a grievous oversight.

No. I was newted by Cheney, Chalabi, et at., same as you.

But I got better.

532 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:59:24pm

re: #519 shai_au

Got the gist of it thanks.

533 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 8:59:44pm

re: #503 Nimed

Right, the way I interpret this sort of questionnaires is that everybody has a sort of "absolute shift" bias. You tend to score higher in all dimensions, freetoken tends to score lower (it would be pretty easy to normalize the results to correct for that, but they just give the raw scores).

I believe the overall pattern gives more information than the absolute scores in this case. Except for "authority", you give more or less the same importance to all dimensions, which corresponds more to the conservative profile.

Got it!
Thanks for the explanation, I truly was confused at the results, had no clue how to interpret that.
Thanks!
That was an interesting exercise.

534 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:00:04pm

re: #523 Stanley Sea

Give me a break Cato. Wind doesn't have any hate in him. You may disagree with what he says, but Wind has no hate.

The person you compared him to?

OH COME ON!

He hides his hate very well.

But he has it.

535 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:02:16pm

re: #522 darthstar

Well, if she does, let me clean up the language first..."grab some fuckin' figs" isn't something I think I've ever seen in a cookbook before.

hahahaha!
Got you then.
'cause it goes in the way I grab it.
hehehehehe.

536 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:03:53pm

re: #534 Cato the Elder

Yeah, your supposition equals what I have seen in blog print.

Bullshit, and I am SAD.

537 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:04:03pm

Its not enough to just bitch about Iraq without giving me some kind of alterior universe scenario for where it would all be had GWB gone the other route and kept playing tiddleywinks with Saddam. We'd be so much better off now because why..

538 shai_au  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:04:22pm

re: #532 Rightwingconspirator

Got the gist of it thanks.

Sorry, I'm still looking for articles, but there's such a sheer wealth of them that it's difficult to choose a "best" one. :)

539 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:06:15pm

re: #530 Mich-again

George W. Bush made good on what the UN threatened to do. He went and got 1441 first, then enforced it.

Agreed. The sanctions regime was failing and it was either invade or watch Saddam quietly rearm. In retrospect, option one was a much worse than we'd thought at the time.

540 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:07:10pm

re: #509 Mr Pancakes

How does one submit a recipe? I've got a great one I'd like to share.

Send me an email.
The addy is in my profile information (click my avatar) and at the cookbook blog (click my nic).

Easy!

541 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:07:12pm

re: #529 freetoken

JUST DON'T MOVE HERE!

I agree...... but it doesn't matter now..... there's already too many people here....

542 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:07:41pm

re: #536 Stanley Sea

Yeah, your supposition equals what I have seen in blog print.

Bullshit, and I am SAD.

Windsagio is the yipping yapping little lapdog of the moonbats here.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I've said my piece for now.

543 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:08:24pm

re: #540 reine.de.tout

Send me an email.
The addy is in my profile information (click my avatar) and at the cookbook blog (click my nic).

Easy!

Thanks!

544 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:09:02pm

re: #542 Cato the Elder

Good. Don't compare him to Mandy's hate. That's a whole 'nother realm.

545 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:09:38pm

re: #544 Stanley Sea

Good. Don't compare him to Mandy's hate. That's a whole 'nother realm.

Shall I compare him to a summer's day?

546 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:09:58pm

I can answer part of that question.. Thousands of our soldiers would still be alive. And the war had some contribution to the financial crisis.

547 spikester  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:12:09pm

re: #546 Mich-again

and I'm sure no one would have died at the hands of Sadam

548 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:13:14pm

re: #545 Cato the Elder

I prefer Pope. Bring out some that I've forgotten.

549 shai_au  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:14:02pm

re: #538 shai_au

Sorry, I'm still looking for articles, but there's such a sheer wealth of them that it's difficult to choose a "best" one. :)

Crikey has a pretty good sample of the issue coverage, although the News Ltd press allege that it leans leftwards.

If you get a popup about free subscription, just say "I'm already a member".

550 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:14:10pm

re: #539 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. The sanctions regime was failing and it was either invade or watch Saddam quietly rearm. In retrospect, option one was a much worse than we'd thought at the time.

Agreed. Had to do something to kick over the tables and end the party. The actual war went well. It was the Nation-Building part that we weren't ready for. It turned out to be sectarian bloodbath, just like Ambassador Ryan Crocker warned them.

551 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:14:25pm

re: #544 Stanley Sea

Good. Don't compare him to Mandy's hate. That's a whole 'nother realm.

Stanley I love you ...... but he can be annoying sometimes.

552 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:15:25pm

re: #479 windsagio

My guess is WUB uses rageboners all too often.

553 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:16:16pm

re: #548 Stanley Sea

I prefer Pope. Bring out some that I've forgotten.

"Lo, what huge heaps of littleness around!"

554 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:16:32pm

You know that North Korean plane crash in China?

It might have been a MiG-21.

Kyodo News is reporting that work on the disposal of the North Korean jet fighter that crashed in Liaoning, China, began on the afternoon of the 17th.

Kyodo reported this morning, quoting Xinhua, that "the vehicle of the North Korean Consulate General in Shenyang has arrived at the scene of the accident at Fushun, Liaoning. At the same time, a Chinese Foreign Ministry official is heading to Shenyang." It said, "Choi Byeong Gwan, North Korean Ambassador to China, visited the Chinese Foreign Ministry too, and it seems that the two countries are negotiating on what measures to take, including collection of the plane fuselage.”

SNIP

555 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:16:40pm

re: #551 Mr Pancakes

Stanley I love you ... but he can be annoying sometimes.

Fine, there are a lot of annoying people. Deal with them every day. No comparison.

556 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:17:53pm

re: #547 spikester

and I'm sure no one would have died at the hands of Sadam


There's no telling what he might have accomplished if he had been allowed to keep playing chicken with the UN forever. The Crude for Food bribes were raking him in the cash and given enough time, he'd strike back eventually. I agree he had to go.

557 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:18:14pm

re: #520 laZardo

And we did. Thanks President Bush, Secretary Gates, General Petraeus, and all the men and women of the coalition forces. Special "fuck you" goes out to all who lacked faith, all who gave up, all who said it was lost before it began, etc

558 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:18:30pm

re: #555 Stanley Sea

Fine, there are a lot of annoying people. Deal with them every day. No comparison.

I compare Windy to Mandy because neither one of them ever, ever apologizes or backs down.

Piss be upon them both.

559 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:18:47pm

I suspect each and every one of us is annoying to somebody at some point in every single day we live.

I like for my annoying-ness to be overlooked and forgiven.
And so I try to offer the same in return.

NIght all.

560 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:19:15pm

re: #555 Stanley Sea

Fine, there are a lot of annoying people. Deal with them every day. No comparison.

He's just another annoying person...... you say tomato I say tomaaato ... you say potato I say potaaato..... let's call the whole thing off.

561 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:19:19pm

re: #557 TheMatrix31

And we did. Thanks President Bush, Secretary Gates, General Petraeus, and all the men and women of the coalition forces. Special "fuck you" goes out to all who lacked faith, all who gave up, all who said it was lost before it began, etc

And a throat-choking fuck you to you, in twenty-eight languages.

562 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:21:01pm

re: #558 Cato the Elder

I compare Windy to Mandy because neither one of them ever, ever apologizes or backs down.

Piss be upon them both.

One comes from hate. The other HAS apologized. Maybe not for that one comment some time ever past. But to compare is bullshit, and making me stand my ground.

So, how bout some Pope???

563 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:21:33pm

re: #559 reine.de.tout

I suspect each and every one of us is annoying to somebody at some point in every single day we live.

I like for my annoying-ness to be overlooked and forgiven.
And so I try to offer the same in return.

NIght all.

Goodnight reine

564 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:21:36pm

re: #561 Cato the Elder

You're cool.

565 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:21:49pm

re: #499 darthstar

Okay...duck breast with balsamic/fig reduction report time...FUCKIN' DO THIS! It's fig season!

Take about four, five, or six figs, chop into bits (quarters are fine, they break down). Put a dollop of olive oil and a chunk of butter in a pan, heat. Add figs. Put about a 1/4 cup of red wine and a few tablespoons of balsamic vineger in, and simmer. Take a pinch of sugar (I used raw sugar, but a pinch of refined--white shit--sugar should work as well, or use brown sugar). Reduce until it makes a good sauce.

Drizzle over grilled duck breast, pork chops, lamb chops or chicken (if you use duck breast, score the fat in a criss-cross pattern so it doesn't curl when you cook it).

It's pretty fuckin' good, if I must say so.

I once made duck, about 30 years ago. It came out awful. Never made it again, though I suppose I could try. It's very greasy.

I'm planning the menu for New Year's (Rosh Hashanah). Brisket of course, and probably will also make roast turkey drumsticks.

Tomorrow is Pie Day! I am baking a classic Michigan Cherry Pie to reward Zedushka for being such a good sport through all my pie experiments and near fails.

567 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:22:26pm

re: #562 Stanley Sea

One comes from hate. The other HAS apologized. Maybe not for that one comment some time ever past. But to compare is bullshit, and making me stand my ground.

So, how bout some Pope???

"Party-spirit at best is but the madness of many for the gain of a few. "

This applies to you.

568 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:22:27pm

re: #557 TheMatrix31

And we did. Thanks President Bush, Secretary Gates, General Petraeus, and all the men and women of the coalition forces. Special "fuck you" goes out to all who lacked faith, all who gave up, all who said it was lost before it began, etc

Quite Concur. Those who say we should have stayed out of Iraq tend to fail to produce an alternative other than the inspection regime, which Saddam would have kicked out as soon as the pressure went doown.

569 freetoken  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:22:38pm

Feeling the need to put up a Pages entry, not on economic doom (though that is always a good subject), but on something the Royal Society did today (well, yesterday) that I think is rather stupid and counterproductive. Parochialism is self defeating anywhere, but especially so when it comes to science. Doubly so when it is dressed up as an accomplishment.

570 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:22:41pm

re: #565 Alouette

Tomorrow is Pie Day!

Wouldn't that be 5 months and a week late?

/oh, Pie Day with an e.

571 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:22:52pm

re: #558 Cato the Elder

I compare Windy to Mandy because neither one of them ever, ever apologizes or backs down.

Piss be upon them both.

OK, I was skimming down, see if it was safe, but let me just say that.

That's a fucking lie, you miserable, drunk old bastard.

572 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:23:10pm

re: #568 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. Those who say we should have stayed out of Iraq tend to fail to produce an alternative other than the inspection regime, which Saddam would have kicked out as soon as the pressure went doown.

I see your grasp of recent history is shaky.

573 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:23:39pm
574 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:23:51pm

re: #571 windsagio

OK, I was skimming down, see if it was safe, but let me just say that.

That's a fucking lie, you miserable, drunk old bastard.

You'll be old someday.........

575 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:24:08pm

re: #546 Mich-again

I can answer part of that question.. Thousands of our soldiers would still be alive. And the war had some contribution to the financial crisis.

Sadaam didn't have squat. He wasn't acquiring either. The inspectors were a big enough deterrent for that. David Kay admitted as much.

But I think it's kinda pointless to say "what if". Any number of things would have been different. On the upside, being close to Iran and Pakistan isn't a bad thing.

576 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:24:28pm

re: #574 Mr Pancakes

I will be, but hopefully I won't be a miserable, and angry all the time.

577 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:24:36pm

Alexander Pope

Image: Alexander_Pope_portrait.jpg

At ev'ry word a reputation dies.

578 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:25:23pm

re: #576 windsagio

I will be, but hopefully I won't be a miserable, and angry all the time.

Alright.... but leave the old part out...... none of us can avoid that.

579 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:25:34pm

re: #499 darthstar

I think I will try your fig sauce on turkey.

580 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:25:54pm

re: #578 Mr Pancakes

heh, you know how it is, lost my temper :p

I'll try to remember!

581 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:26:13pm

re: #577 Stanley Sea

Alexander Pope

Image: Alexander_Pope_portrait.jpg

At ev'ry word a reputation dies.

Windy made and makes his own reputation here, as do we all.

582 garhighway  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:27:59pm

re: #537 Mich-again

Its not enough to just bitch about Iraq without giving me some kind of alterior universe scenario for where it would all be had GWB gone the other route and kept playing tiddleywinks with Saddam. We'd be so much better off now because why..

4000 servicemen would still be alive.

583 jaunte  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:28:10pm

re: #577 Stanley Sea

Alexander Pope

Image: Alexander_Pope_portrait.jpg

At ev'ry word a reputation dies.

"Our proper bliss depends on what we blame."

584 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:28:17pm

re: #581 Cato the Elder

Yup, you Mandy, and Bagua (along with various other banned stalkers) totally hate my guts!

585 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:28:48pm

Holy shit - no war. I'm a peacenik.

I love Wind, I love Cato. I'm disagreeing which is fucking allowed.


Education forms the common mind. Just as the twig is bent, the tree's inclined.

586 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:29:32pm

re: #547 spikester

and I'm sure no one would have died at the hands of Sadam

Rationalization #814 -- "If the Iraq War never happened, those people would have been slaughtered anyway".

587 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:29:41pm

re: #584 windsagio

Put me in the column of "not banned, not a stalker" who does.

Although that probably feeds your drive to continue being what you are.

588 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:30:27pm

re: #571 windsagio

OK, I was skimming down, see if it was safe, but let me just say that.

That's a fucking lie, you miserable, drunk old bastard.

Your wit, the glory of your gaseous mind,
shines through to show you bright and light and kind,
like to the sun, whose rays the gassy winds destroy,
and show himself a man, and not a boy.

589 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:30:57pm

re: #587 TheMatrix31

Na I'm indifferent.

To be honest, you disliking me makes sense :P

What bugs me about Cato is the goddamn randomness of it. He just turned on a switch and it was like "harass windy!"

I want to at least earn the hate.

590 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:00pm

re: #586 Nimed

Rationalization #814 -- "If the Iraq War never happened, those people would have been slaughtered anyway".

We have never received definitive totals of Iraqi citizens killed in these last 7 years have we?

The reports will come. We'll be 20 years older, they will still be dead.

591 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:16pm

re: #575 marjoriemoon

But I think it's kinda pointless to say "what if". Any number of things would have been different. On the upside, being close to Iran and Pakistan isn't a bad thing.

There is a lot of upside. But I do think theres a point to asking the ones who think the entire campaign should have been avoided to provide some kind of scenario for how things might be now otherwise. So many people complain about things by comparing the current situation to a utopian vision and reality can never win against perfect.

592 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:36pm

re: #585 Stanley Sea

Holy shit - no war. I'm a peacenik.

Me too. Except when I'm not :p

593 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:43pm

re: #584 windsagio

Yup, you Mandy, and Bagua (along with various other banned stalkers) totally hate my guts!

I don't hate you... I just think you need to ratchet the conservative hate down some.

594 spikester  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:49pm

re: #590 Stanley Sea

and I'm sure we will know who killed who

595 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:51pm

re: #589 windsagio

Na I'm indifferent.

To be honest, you disliking me makes sense :P

What bugs me about Cato is the goddamn randomness of it. He just turned on a switch and it was like "harass windy!"

I want to at least earn the hate.

You earn it very well.

596 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:31:53pm

re: #589 windsagio

Na I'm indifferent.

To be honest, you disliking me makes sense :P

What bugs me about Cato is the goddamn randomness of it. He just turned on a switch and it was like "harass windy!"

I want to at least earn the hate.

You have.

597 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:32:14pm

re: #592 marjoriemoon

Me too. Except when I'm not :p

you got me!

598 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:32:14pm

re: #585 Stanley Sea

I just can't love a guy like that. Between the harassment and the flouncing, its just an ugly package.

599 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:32:48pm

I have thought about it a lot, and decided that when Mom and Dad have passed and I'm done with this current phase of my life that I am going overseas. I don't really care where, it could be Pakistan, or Indonesia, or Cambodia, whatever. I'm too old be be getting in trouble by chasing their women and I won't be trying to proselytize anyone to convert to Christianity.

As a licensed electrician I have skills that are useful anywhere. Besides that I can always teach basic english, right? (hey, someone has to teach them how to curse properly). If I live through it then I'm sure I will eventually come back here someday, probably a few days after Glenn Beck passes away. /

I want to do something fun, new, and interesting after this, and I am going to, while being beheaded by Muslim extremists in Pakistan might not be fun it sure will be interesting... :p

600 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:33:11pm

re: #596 Cato the Elder

Tell me how?

Like seriously lets work on this.

Like I'll give Matrix or someone like Mandy a hard time, and I understand them resenting it.

Did I do anything other than disagree with you on an important subject? Is that enough?

601 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:33:16pm

re: #598 windsagio

I just can't love a guy like that. Between the harassment and the flouncing, its just an ugly package.

And what is the opposite of love?

QED, Stanley Sea.

602 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:33:48pm

re: #601 Cato the Elder

a lack is not an opposite man, I thought you knew better :p

603 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:33:58pm

re: #594 spikester

and I'm sure we will know who killed who

You know what? It doesn't matter. You want to place blame on how many Iraqi's killed? It doesn't matter. They are dead.

604 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:34:27pm

re: #591 Mich-again

There is a lot of upside. But I do think theres a point to asking the ones who think the entire campaign should have been avoided to provide some kind of scenario for how things might be now otherwise. So many people complain about things by comparing the current situation to a utopian vision and reality can never win against perfect.

Hindsight may not be 20/20 after all, eh?

I wish I had a definitive feeling about it one way or the other. There's too many "other hands".

605 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:34:41pm

re: #600 windsagio

Tell me how?

Like seriously lets work on this.

Like I'll give Matrix or someone like Mandy a hard time, and I understand them resenting it.

Did I do anything other than disagree with you on an important subject? Is that enough?

Fools.

I've always hated them when they weren't even the least bit clever.

606 Mich-again  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:00pm

One of the common complaints about Iraq goes something like, At least Saddam and his security detail kept the Sunnis and Shites from killing each other. In other words, he was a fine zookeeper. Kind of a cynical view on humanity isn't it?

607 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:01pm

Also SS flatters me, I certainly am capable of hate.

608 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:20pm

re: #605 Cato the Elder

So lets explore this further. Is everyone that disagrees with you a fool?

609 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:26pm

re: #601 Cato the Elder

And what is the opposite of love?

QED, Stanley Sea.

Threesome.

610 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:40pm

re: #594 spikester

and I'm sure we will know who killed who

To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.

Robert Houghwout Jackson

611 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:48pm

re: #609 Stanley Sea

Threesome.

Lets leave walter out of it ;)

612 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:53pm

re: #608 windsagio

So lets explore this further. Is everyone that disagrees with you a fool?

Fool.

613 spikester  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:35:53pm

re: #603 Stanley Sea

if we are going to count....somebody should be held accountable

614 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:36:08pm

re: #600 windsagio

You sound like this guy on a non-political board I moderate. Always took everything personally, always looked for reasons as to why people hated him, and the guy just didn't understand that it was the way he came across, the way he acted, the way he made his "points", that made people hate the fucking shit out of him. Seriously, he HAD to be loved, and had to know WHY he WASN'T.

We were forced to ban him. Didn't want him to hang over the website.

615 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:36:36pm

re: #612 Cato the Elder

Dude, I'm trying to act in good faith here.

616 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:37:22pm

re: #614 TheMatrix31

You might be prejudiced :P

Also, makes me glad you're not our Host ;)

617 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:37:44pm

re: #615 windsagio

Dude, I'm trying to act in good faith here.

Learned to spell "let's" and maybe I'll care.

618 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:38:08pm

re: #616 windsagio

Best moderated community I'm a part of.

619 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:38:53pm

re: #617 Cato the Elder

heh, you really don't want to do this do you :p

620 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:40:17pm

re: #619 windsagio

heh, you really don't want to do this do you :p

Let's do this....... without emoticons.

621 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:40:45pm

re: #620 Mr Pancakes

Let's do this... without emoticons.

Trying... not... to... call... you... old :p

622 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:41:07pm

re: #620 Mr Pancakes

Let's do this... without emoticons.

He can't. They're all he's got, where brains ought to dwell.

623 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:41:12pm

re: #614 TheMatrix31

You sound like this guy on a non-political board I moderate. Always took everything personally, always looked for reasons as to why people hated him, and the guy just didn't understand that it was the way he came across, the way he acted, the way he made his "points", that made people hate the fucking shit out of him. Seriously, he HAD to be loved, and had to know WHY he WASN'T.

We were forced to ban him. Didn't want him to hang over the website.

Yeah, good luck. Wind hasn't done anything ban-able. It's actually pretty funny. I'm no gamer, or farker even, I'm really out of touch if you want to dig deep. But I see it, clear as day (old saying) the old vs. new with the gripe against Wind, he's just new blood and ya'll oldies don't get it.

624 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:41:13pm

:-/

//;;;

:)

...;

625 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:41:59pm

re: #623 Stanley Sea

Yeah, good luck. Wind hasn't done anything ban-able. It's actually pretty funny. I'm no gamer, or farker even, I'm really out of touch if you want to dig deep. But I see it, clear as day (old saying) the old vs. new with the gripe against Wind, he's just new blood and ya'll oldies don't get it.

"Parents just don't understand", I guess.

626 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:42:02pm

re: #621 windsagio

Trying... not... to... call... you... old :p

Please call me old I am old.

627 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:42:03pm

And I am no leftarded kneejerking piss-boy's "dude".

628 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:42:32pm

re: #623 Stanley Sea

The really funny thing is that *somebody* has gotten a ton of warnings and timeouts over his behavior, and I've never once been even warned (altho I think I should have once or twice).

The only exception I can think of is getting lectured by Obdicut yesterday, and I deserved that :p

629 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:42:55pm

re: #624 TheMatrix31

:-/

//;;;

:)

...;

*^-^*

630 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:43:09pm

re: #626 Mr Pancakes

I can't help but like you.

Also your avatar rocks.

(you did ask for no 'old' comments tho :p)

631 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:43:35pm

re: #628 windsagio

The really funny thing is that *somebody* has gotten a ton of warnings and timeouts over his behavior, and I've never once been even warned (altho I think I should have once or twice).

The only exception I can think of is getting lectured by Obdicut yesterday, and I deserved that :p

Alrighty then....... (rolls eyes)

632 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:44:04pm

re: #625 TheMatrix31

I suspect she means 'old' as in 'established'. There's a definite gap between the longtermers and the shorter-term people.

633 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:44:06pm

re: #630 windsagio

I can't help but like you.

Also your avatar rocks.

(you did ask for no 'old' comments tho :p)

Thanks dude!

634 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:44:27pm

re: #627 Cato the Elder

And I am no leftarded kneejerking piss-boy's "dude".

So you don't know where my car is?

635 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:44:27pm

re: #631 Mr Pancakes

Alrighty then... (rolls eyes)

do this: 9_9

That's an eye-rolley one.

636 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:44:54pm

re: #623 Stanley Sea

Yeah, good luck. Wind hasn't done anything ban-able. It's actually pretty funny. I'm no gamer, or farker even, I'm really out of touch if you want to dig deep. But I see it, clear as day (old saying) the old vs. new with the gripe against Wind, he's just new blood and ya'll oldies don't get it.

Your blood is about as new as his.

I like you, when you're not jerking your knee to stand up for him.

Him, I contemn, for lack of wit, an overplentiful sense of his own importance, and things that just come down to not being able to stand the stink of him.

637 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:45:04pm

re: #616 windsagio

I wouldn't want to be your Host if you keep acting like a gelatinous tapeworm.

638 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:45:22pm

re: #635 windsagio

do this: 9_9

That's an eye-rolley one.

Sorry... I'm emoticon deficient.

639 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:45:30pm

I will say tho', that there's an interesting/amazing generation gap in politics right now, I think the gap between the Boomers and the Gen X'ers is even bigger than the previous trumpeted one from the '60s.

640 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:46:08pm

re: #637 TheMatrix31

I'm fortunate that Charles is tolerant of me ;)

641 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:46:58pm

re: #591 Mich-again

There is a lot of upside.

There's A LOT of downside.

But I do think theres a point to asking the ones who think the entire campaign should have been avoided to provide some kind of scenario for how things might be now otherwise. So many people complain about things by comparing the current situation to a utopian vision and reality can never win against perfect.

If somebody can be fairly accused of having an utopian vision for Iraq, it sure aren't those who opposed (or now oppose) the war. Not that this is the most important question as far as I'm concerned. 10 years from now, Iraq may be just peachy, or it may be worse than it was when Saddam was in power -- nobody knows this in advance. The far more important question is whether we have given up on the concept of legitimate and illegitimate reasons to wage a war, which is a much more serious issue.

642 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:47:15pm

re: #640 windsagio

Well, obviously I'm just a bigoted conservative, so how in the hell WOULD I be tolerant?

643 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:47:45pm

re: #642 TheMatrix31

Well, obviously I'm just a bigoted conservative, so how in the hell WOULD I be tolerant?

Shhhhhhhh!

644 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:47:49pm

re: #631 Mr Pancakes

I shared with a co-worker the hilarious Mr. Pancakes & when you click on his name you go to IHOP.

Really.

I'm laughing now!!

645 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:48:12pm

re: #635 windsagio

Is there like, a douchebag's guide to emoticons that I missed during my last trip to Barnes & Noble?

646 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:48:45pm

re: #644 Stanley Sea

I shared with a co-worker the hilarious Mr. Pancakes & when you click on his name you go to IHOP.

Really.

I'm laughing now!!

Hahahaaaa

I try not to be political...... I like it here.

647 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:49:13pm

re: #646 Mr Pancakes

Hahahaaa

I try not to be political... I like it here.

Politics is what is here tho'!

648 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:50:35pm

re: #647 windsagio

Politics is what is here tho'!

Yep......... that's why you'll usually find me on open threads.

649 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:50:45pm

re: #647 windsagio

Heh.

650 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:50:57pm

lol we totally killed the thread, nothing to talk about now except the knife-fight.

651 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:51:10pm

re: #636 Cato the Elder

Your blood is about as new as his.

I like you, when you're not jerking your knee to stand up for him.

Him, I contemn, for lack of wit, an overplentiful sense of his own importance, and things that just come down to not being able to stand the stink of him.

See Cato, this is what I don't get. I think you two could really be friends.

No disrespect. I think you are similar and could benefit from each other. I know this is not a detailed intelligent take, but wtf

652 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:51:15pm

re: #641 Nimed

There's A LOT of downside.

If somebody can be fairly accused of having an utopian vision for Iraq, it sure aren't those who opposed (or now oppose) the war. Not that this is the most important question as far as I'm concerned. 10 years from now, Iraq may be just peachy, or it may be worse than it was when Saddam was in power -- nobody knows this in advance. The far more important question is whether we have given up on the concept of legitimate and illegitimate reasons to wage a war, which is a much more serious issue.

But as you say, we don't know. History is still being written. I would like to think that the death of all those people will eventually mean something the world can live with.

653 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:52:04pm

re: #651 Stanley Sea

The basic problem is I enjoy zingers too much, and he enjoys being angry too much, ultimately.

654 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:52:20pm

re: #651 Stanley Sea

See Cato, this is what I don't get. I think you two could really be friends.

No disrespect. I think you are similar...

Stop right there. That's insult enough for one month.

655 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:52:31pm

I'm going to go to bed. Goodnight everyone.

656 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:52:42pm

Do you see my machinations on spy?

657 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:52:54pm

re: #654 Cato the Elder

Stop right there. That's insult enough for one month.

I have yet to see a zinger from you.

658 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:53:39pm

re: #657 Cato the Elder

I have yet to see a zinger from you.

Not this kind, silly!

659 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:53:49pm

"and windsagio takes a powerhouse right to the chin but comes back swinging, ohh, now he connects a powerful shot to Cato that seems to leave him staggered. But wait Cato has tagged with "TheMatrix31" who is now climbing into the ring...this tag team match promises to be full of excitement so stay tuned folks...

///Championship wrestling from Cyberspace?

660 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:54:29pm

Come on now, wouldn't you much rather talk about the Iraqi war??

Or maybe have someone stick a pin in your eye??

Whichever.

661 reine.de.tout  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:54:38pm

re: #635 windsagio

do this: 9_9

That's an eye-rolley one.

Oh, gawd.
Had to come back just for this.

Everyone,
if you see an emoticon using a 3, it's a heart (not an ass, not boobs).

662 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:54:40pm

re: #659 ausador

This is freakin' nothing tho'. The term 'squabbling' is really appropriate, as anyone who has been around the 'net will tell you.

663 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:55:08pm

re: #661 reine.de.tout

Oh, gawd.
Had to come back just for this.

Everyone,
if you see an emoticon using a 3, it's a heart (not an ass, not boobs).

hahahah sorry :P

<3 !!!

664 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:55:45pm

re: #659 ausador

"and windsagio takes a powerhouse right to the chin but comes back swinging, ohh, now he connects a powerful shot to Cato that seems to leave him staggered. But wait Cato has tagged with "TheMatrix31" who is now climbing into the ring...this tag team match promises to be full of excitement so stay tuned folks...

///Championship wrestling from Cyberspace?

BAH GAWD, THE STEEL CHAIR!

665 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:56:15pm

re: #641 Nimed

There's A LOT of downside.

If somebody can be fairly accused of having an utopian vision for Iraq, it sure aren't those who opposed (or now oppose) the war. Not that this is the most important question as far as I'm concerned. 10 years from now, Iraq may be just peachy, or it may be worse than it was when Saddam was in power -- nobody knows this in advance. The far more important question is whether we have given up on the concept of legitimate and illegitimate reasons to wage a war, which is a much more serious issue.

Word.

Please re-post again, when more are watching.

And then again another night.

And then again 3 months from now.

666 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:57:33pm

NUMBER OF THE FUCKING BEAST!

667 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:57:33pm

re: #642 TheMatrix31

Well, obviously I'm just a bigoted conservative, so how in the hell WOULD I be tolerant?

Stop with the conservative martyrdom. Not becoming.

668 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:57:55pm

re: #666 WindUpBird

And you hit it too!

669 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:58:38pm

re: #666 WindUpBird

I'm sorry guys, I...I just had to.

Have some devil music.

670 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:58:43pm

re: #666 WindUpBird

NUMBER OF THE FUCKING BEAST!

you also forgot the link:

671 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:58:50pm

re: #668 windsagio

And you hit it too!

I fucking did


I DID

672 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:59:14pm

re: #667 Stanley Sea

Like I give a shit. It's what you people have ascribed to me. I'm going to use it.

673 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:59:16pm

re: #665 Stanley Sea

Word.

Please re-post again, when more are watching.

And then again another night.

And then again 3 months from now.

I wish we could set up an automatic posting of that sentence whenever the word "Iran" is used on this blog.

674 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 9:59:49pm

Anytime someone posts something like "Number Of The Beast" and DOESNT post the Iron Maiden song, well it's a fucking failure of epic proportions.

675 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:00:01pm

re: #671 WindUpBird

I miss you and *person2* chanting at me "Six... Six Six, The numbaaah of the Beast!"

Those were good days :)

676 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:00:16pm

re: #674 TheMatrix31

See its something we can agree on :D

677 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:01:16pm

re: #676 windsagio

ooh, one out of 75 things. Cool story.

678 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:01:19pm

re: #652 marjoriemoon

But as you say, we don't know. History is still being written. I would like to think that the death of all those people will eventually mean something the world can live with.

I agree. The fact that Saddam is no longer in power is certainly a good thing. The fact that the US didn't just leave after the war, but committed to create a stable Iraq, is also a good thing, and undoubtedly gave the Iraqi people a better chance of creating a relatively prosperous country. I just don't think these things should be an acceptable justification for having started the war in the first place.

679 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:01:49pm

re: #654 Cato the Elder

Stop right there. That's insult enough for one month.

oops, I did feel somewhat that I had typed too far.

680 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:02:37pm

re: #672 TheMatrix31

Like I give a shit. It's what you people have ascribed to me. I'm going to use it.

Dude, you need to show up here when you're in a good mood, the problem is you're ALWAYS ANGRY

I'm angry sometimes here! I've posted some wicked mean shit that's just as inflammatory as anything you have, but I also come here in a goofy happy mood trying to start conversations about Dio records or muscle cars or cyberpunk authors

681 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:02:40pm

re: #670 windsagio

you also forgot the link:


[Video]

If we're going to talk about has been metal bands........ I'm going to bed.

682 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:03:36pm

re: #681 Mr Pancakes

Zing!

683 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:03:37pm

re: #674 TheMatrix31

Anytime someone posts something like "Number Of The Beast" and DOESNT post the Iron Maiden song, well it's a fucking failure of epic proportions.

haha I'm just so sick of that song, is the problem, as a Maiden fan for 20 years I am so done with Number of the Beast :D

Give me Wrathchild or something off Powerslave anyday

684 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:05:15pm

re: #681 Mr Pancakes

If we're going to talk about has been metal bands... I'm going to bed.

I like the "Will be" metal bands these days:

So much great music being made right now, it's overwhelming

685 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:05:26pm

re: #680 WindUpBird

Dude, you need to show up here when you're in a good mood, the problem is you're ALWAYS ANGRY

I'm angry sometimes here! I've posted some wicked mean shit that's just as inflammatory as anything you have, but I also come here in a goofy happy mood trying to start conversations about Dio records or muscle cars or cyberpunk authors

As for me, being an asshole is all part of my manly essence. :D

686 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:05:27pm

re: #673 JasonA

I wish we could set up an automatic posting of that sentence whenever the word "Iran" is used on this blog.

I favorited it. I'll try.

687 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:05:42pm

re: #680 WindUpBird

I should probably take a chillllll pilllllll broooo

688 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:05:52pm

re: #684 WindUpBird

I really think its gonna be another age to remember for music.

689 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:06:31pm

re: #410 windsagio

Conspiracy theory:

(Credit to XXX who noticed it but might choose to remain anonymous).

Brookly has been gone for about as long as Steve.

Particularly senseless sockpuppet?

I would feel just as betrayed as I did when I realized taxfreekiller could write in complete sentences.

;)

690 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:06:38pm

re: #666 WindUpBird

NUMBER OF THE FUCKING BEAST!

Wrong, the correct translation is actually 616, so much for all those 666 prophecies...heh? Image: File:666.jpg

/

691 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:06:48pm

re: #678 Nimed

I agree. The fact that Saddam is no longer in power is certainly a good thing. The fact that the US didn't just leave after the war, but committed to create a stable Iraq, is also a good thing, and undoubtedly gave the Iraqi people a better chance of creating a relatively prosperous country. I just don't think these things should be an acceptable justification for having started the war in the first place.

Yea, and then there's the whole oil thing.

What I was trying to say upthread is that talking about Iraq is about as much fun and enlightening as sticking a pin in your eye. Although it's late and I'm sleepy and that might not have come across that way heh

Although if it derailed a good fight, then it served its purpose.

692 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:07:32pm
693 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:07:55pm

re: #687 TheMatrix31

I should probably take a chilll pilll brooo

I'm just saying you'll get a lot less static in general, nobody knows a lot about you

694 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:08:40pm

re: #692 windsagio

I don't think he's doing it right.

695 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:09:02pm

re: #689 SanFranciscoZionist

I would feel just as betrayed as I did when I realized taxfreekiller could write in complete sentences.

;)

Charles recently posted an old thread, I think TFK (yes, even unknowing I can give him his abbreviation) was deleted, all of his comments. All of em.

696 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:09:04pm

re: #693 WindUpBird

A lot of people know a lot about me. I choose not to share things about myself with people like you and your friends.

697 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:09:12pm

re: #688 windsagio

I really think its gonna be another age to remember for music.

It so fucking is

[redacted] is totally getting into the Arcade Fire, and man what a worthy band, what a great band that just, everything they do just has this sparkly 80's-Police-Simple Minds-but-more-proggy vibe

698 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:09:44pm

re: #697 WindUpBird

Stuff to bust out the 'ol glowsticks and boots to?

699 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:09:49pm

re: #693 WindUpBird

I'm just saying you'll get a lot less static in general, nobody knows a lot about you

Not a Laker fan. But that is totally forgivable.

700 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:09:52pm

re: #696 TheMatrix31

A lot of people know a lot about me. I choose not to share things about myself with people like you and your friends.

that's fine!

But don't complain when you play one single note over and over for us here on LGF and we respond in kind.

701 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:10:02pm
702 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:10:49pm

re: #684 WindUpBird

So much great music being made right now, it's overwhelming

Really? Because all I hear these days is...

/and yes, that's how she came up with her mutant name.

703 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:11:07pm

re: #699 Stanley Sea

Not a Laker fan. But that is totally forgivable.

I'm not a Laker fan either! :D

I guess by default I am a Blazers fan because the Sonics are in Oklahoma and now they're called the Oklahoma Buttholes or something. but I cannot bring myself to care about the Blazers

704 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:11:14pm

re: #653 windsagio

The basic problem is I enjoy zingers too much, and he enjoys being angry too much, ultimately.

I have yet to see a zinger from you.

Keep trying. Swear words help, if you're vocabulary-challenged.

705 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:11:34pm

re: #704 Cato the Elder

here we go again >>

706 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:11:55pm

re: #703 WindUpBird

and now they're called the Oklahoma Buttholes or something

Oh god I laughed :P

707 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:12:09pm

SO, how about Sister Sarah doubling down on Dr. Laura's racist broadcast?

So many horrible things she does. In the past that pol would be shunned.

blah blah gah

708 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:12:16pm

re: #702 laZardo

Well, you gotta get off the radio :D

Off the top of my head there's about 30 or 40 underground prog, hard rock and metal bands that are just astonishingly good, that are all from the last few years

709 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:12:26pm

re: #699 Stanley Sea

"Not a Laker fan" is easily the mildest way I've ever seen my feelings described.

710 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:12:39pm

re: #702 laZardo

Hey that lady is actually great. >>> madonna in her prime

711 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:12:51pm

re: #704 Cato the Elder

I have yet to see a zinger from you.

Keep trying. Swear words help, if you're vocabulary-challenged.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

712 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:13:21pm

re: #707 Stanley Sea

Maybe people are sick of talking about her. She's hot---I'd fucking bang the hell out of her---but that's it. She's not going to run, she's not going to do anything but make cash.

713 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:13:23pm

re: #708 WindUpBird

Well, you gotta get off the radio :D

Off the top of my head there's about 30 or 40 underground prog, hard rock and metal bands that are just astonishingly good, that are all from the last few years

And then there's my little brother's band.

/seriously, he's the curly bassist-backing-vocal you see near the end.

714 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:13:29pm

re: #708 WindUpBird

Or pop. That Broken Bells album is freakin' mindblowing.

715 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:13:36pm

re: #710 windsagio

Hey that lady is actually great. >>> madonna in her prime

yeah, I don't mind Lady gaga! She's got fucking amazing outfits and the music is good pop music, not what I listen to, but there's nothing bad about it

716 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:13:42pm

re: #522 darthstar

Well, if she does, let me clean up the language first..."grab some fuckin' figs" isn't something I think I've ever seen in a cookbook before.

I once read a Redneck Cookbook, which included directions to keep a foot firmly on your possum until you actually butcher it, 'because they'll slip away'.

I have remembered this, although I have never had occasion to actually follow the advice contained therein.

717 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:14:05pm

re: #684 WindUpBird

I like the "Will be" metal bands these days:


[Video]So much great music being made right now, it's overwhelming

Yea ... ok... listenable. I'm not a big fan of post grunge metal.

718 What, me worry?  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:14:13pm

re: #712 TheMatrix31

Maybe people are sick of talking about her. She's hot---I'd fucking bang the hell out of her---but that's it. She's not going to run, she's not going to do anything but make cash.

Ahh a sensitive gentleman sort. So refreshing.

719 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:14:14pm

re: #713 laZardo

Your brothers band sounds pretty tight!

720 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:14:58pm

re: #715 WindUpBird

yeah, I don't mind Lady gaga! She's got fucking amazing outfits and the music is good pop music, not what I listen to, but there's nothing bad about it

I liked Lady GaGa back when she was a human female.

721 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:07pm

re: #717 Mr Pancakes

Yea ... ok... listenable. I'm not a big fan of post grunge metal.

How about floydian prog-metal?

722 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:24pm

re: #720 laZardo

lady does an amazing live version of "Poker Face"

723 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:30pm

re: #547 spikester

and I'm sure no one would have died at the hands of Sadam

Saddam came to power in 1979. How is that we were able to put up with people dying at his hands for twenty-four years, and then it suddenly became unbearable?

724 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:34pm

re: #718 marjoriemoon

Well, if she's not going to run, if she's not making policy, and I'm not marrying her, then what else should I talk about but her looks? She's a hottie, that's all that matters to me for these celebrity/public-eye types if I'm not going to know them personally.

Shallow or not, it's truth.


Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say "Oh yeah, that Scarlett Johannson, her views on race relations are so fascinating."

725 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:53pm

Not such a big fan of whore-rock, myself.

726 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:56pm

Lady Gaga? Are you people serious with this right now?

727 bratwurst  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:16:59pm

re: #712 TheMatrix31

She's hot---I'd fucking bang the hell out of her---but that's it.

Noted.

728 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:17:02pm

Uh oh, SFZ is just getting to the Rocky bit!

729 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:17:23pm

re: #726 TheMatrix31

Lady Gaga? Are you people serious with this right now?

Yup, she's actually pretty awesome.

730 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:17:42pm

re: #721 WindUpBird

How about floydian prog-metal?


[Video]

Much better

731 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:17:52pm
732 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:18:07pm

re: #725 Cato the Elder

733 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:18:47pm

re: #724 TheMatrix31

I think Sarah Palin is influencing political thought in America more than the chick who starred in Lost in Translation :P

734 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:19:27pm

re: #729 windsagio

I get enough of hearing about that overrated garbage in my own specific social circles. The other day, everyone was fucking going crazy over her stupid show, while I was going crazy about missing the Rush concert that very same night.

735 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:19:30pm

re: #726 TheMatrix31

Lady Gaga? Are you people serious with this right now?

Well...... you have to give her credit...... she's a musician and she writes her own music.

Something Madonna never did.

736 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:19:43pm

re: #730 Mr Pancakes

Much better

Now we're onto something

Try this!

737 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:19:45pm

re: #594 spikester

and I'm sure we will know who killed who

Cops calls that the SODDI Defense.

Stands for Some Other Dude Done It.

738 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:19:55pm

re: #717 Mr Pancakes

Yea ... ok... listenable. I'm not a big fan of post grunge metal.

We are probably of the same realm - REM?

739 laZardo  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:08pm

Gonna head to college bbl. O:

740 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:08pm

re: #733 WindUpBird

They both stimulate thoughts of "yum, nice boobies". In my mind, anyway.

741 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:23pm

re: #734 TheMatrix31

I get enough of hearing about that overrated garbage in my own specific social circles. The other day, everyone was fucking going crazy over her stupid show, while I was going crazy about missing the Rush concert that very same night.

We have at least one thing in common

742 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:25pm

re: #734 TheMatrix31

Man I could never have to hear a Rush song again and be happy.

Was a little overexposed when in HS >>

743 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:31pm

re: #738 Stanley Sea

We are probably of the same realm - REM?

Love REM

744 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:38pm

re: #735 Mr Pancakes

Oh yeah, takes a lot of talent to write "Ga Ga Ooh La La".

Fuckin' dissertations and shit.

745 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:39pm

re: #722 windsagio

lady does an amazing live version of "Poker Face"


[Video]

Meh. I am unamazed.

746 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:44pm

re: #742 windsagio

Man I could never have to hear a Rush song again and be happy.

Was a little overexposed when in HS >>

:(

747 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:20:55pm

re: #745 JasonA

Tough crowd >>

748 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:21:19pm

"zOMG, Rush? Like Rush Limbaugh? You want to see that racist tribalist in concert?!"

749 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:03pm

re: #748 TheMatrix31

"zOMG, Rush? Like Rush Limbaugh? You want to see that racist tribalist in concert?!"

I swear if your favorite Rush record is Grace Under Pressure, we're going to have words

750 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:05pm

re: #740 TheMatrix31

I've never understood the "wow Sarah Palin's hot!" thing anyways. Dress a chick up in a really nice suit, give her glasses and pull her hair back, and guys everywhere swoon >>

751 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:08pm

re: #691 marjoriemoon

Yea, and then there's the whole oil thing.

What I was trying to say upthread is that talking about Iraq is about as much fun and enlightening as sticking a pin in your eye. Although it's late and I'm sleepy and that might not have come across that way heh

Although if it derailed a good fight, then it served its purpose.

:)

Yeah, it is an unpleasant subject. I kind of force myself to write something about it when somebody says that it was all worth it since Saddam was such a terrible man. IMO, this war was by far the biggest blunder of both our domestic and foreign policy in the last 30 years (and this is kind of a conservative estimate). It was also in some senses, more "preventable" than other catastrophic events (like, say, the financial crisis).

More importantly, I really believe that if we were to suffer another terrorist attack (and it doesn't have to be another 9/11), not only we would be likely to make the same mistakes, they would cost our country even more this time around.

752 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:30pm

re: #746 WindUpBird

Not your fault!

753 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:22:50pm

re: #672 TheMatrix31

Like I give a shit. It's what you people have ascribed to me. I'm going to use it.

Who are you calling 'you people'?

754 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:23:05pm

re: #752 windsagio

Not your fault!

You weren't overexposed to Hemispheres, there's no excuse not to like that record

755 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:23:39pm

re: #754 WindUpBird

To be honest, I hear the word "Rush" and my eyes roll back into my head :P Can't even differentiate albums ;)

756 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:23:43pm

re: #750 windsagio

I've never understood the "wow Sarah Palin's hot!" thing anyways. Dress a chick up in a really nice suit, give her glasses and pull her hair back, and guys everywhere swoon >>

I disagree, but I understand it. She does have a good looking body.

757 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:24:21pm

re: #756 JasonA

Certainly not exceptional tho', we see beautiful people everywhere these days.

But yeah, not saying she's ugly, just that her attractiveness seems overly played up to me.

758 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:24:36pm

re: #743 Mr Pancakes

Love REM

759 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:25:07pm

re: #753 SanFranciscoZionist

Use your imagination.

760 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:25:55pm

I would invite any and all Rush fans to check out Floater, sort of Oregon's Rush, hipsters hate them and Oregonians love them , bass forward power-trio with precise drumming who does not care with the prevailing music winds are

761 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:13pm

re: #733 WindUpBird

I think Sarah Palin is influencing political thought in America more than the chick who starred in Lost in Translation :P

Which is actually rather unfortunate.

762 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:28pm

I hope you are nightswimming

763 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:45pm

re: #750 windsagio

Sorry, I'd rather look at Palin than her oh-so-sexy politically-affiliated counterparts Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, etc.

764 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:53pm

re: #724 TheMatrix31

Well, if she's not going to run, if she's not making policy, and I'm not marrying her, then what else should I talk about but her looks? She's a hottie, that's all that matters to me for these celebrity/public-eye types if I'm not going to know them personally.

Shallow or not, it's truth.

Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say "Oh yeah, that Scarlett Johannson, her views on race relations are so fascinating."

Lots of people aren't as sure as you are she's not going to run (I did make a bet saying she won't get the GOP Presidential nomination). Either way, she is clearly an influential public figure, particularly among Republicans.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

765 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:26:59pm

A favorite REM song of mine..... old school.

766 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:12pm

re: #750 windsagio

I've never understood the "wow Sarah Palin's hot!" thing anyways. Dress a chick up in a really nice suit, give her glasses and pull her hair back, and guys everywhere swoon >>

She has a good figure, and nice features...and she fits a fantasy.

767 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:29pm

re: #763 TheMatrix31

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't mean attractiveness is the primary characteristic a female politician should have.

768 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:45pm

re: #764 Nimed

She's not going to run, so I don't care.

769 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:27:56pm

re: #763 TheMatrix31

Sorry, I'd rather look at Palin than her oh-so-sexy politically-affiliated counterparts Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, etc.

being the sexiest politician is sorta like being the best Christian rock band, the standards aren't so high

770 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:11pm

re: #767 windsagio

Thanks for giving me that benefit of the doubt. Where would I be otherwise?!

771 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:30pm

re: #766 SanFranciscoZionist

She has a good figure, and nice features...and she fits a fantasy.

And power is in and of itself attractive, of course!

772 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:37pm

re: #769 WindUpBird

being the sexiest politician is sorta like being the best Christian rock band, the standards aren't so high

Hey now, I know you like some christian bands!

773 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:28:56pm

re: #763 TheMatrix31

Sorry, I'd rather look at Palin than her oh-so-sexy politically-affiliated counterparts Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, etc.

How did Helen Thomas work her way in there?

774 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:29:45pm

re: #773 JasonA

lol I didn't notice that.

I did however notice another pattern in that list.

I guess left-leaning women in politics are ugly?

775 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:29:51pm

re: #773 JasonA

That old hag was in the press over there for how long?

776 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:12pm

re: #775 TheMatrix31

Dude! WTF?

777 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:16pm

re: #763 TheMatrix31

Sorry, I'd rather look at Palin than her oh-so-sexy politically-affiliated counterparts Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, etc.

You dig yourself deeper every time I'm here.

Dick.

778 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:24pm

re: #774 windsagio

lol I didn't notice that.

I did however notice another pattern in that list.

I guess left-leaning women in politics are ugly?

I don't even know that many female conservatives. I guess its because conservatives are oppressive towards women or something.

/

779 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:41pm

re: #772 windsagio

haha for Christian rock that doesn't suck, I was going to go with

780 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:30:51pm

re: #777 Stanley Sea

What's wrong with what I said? Honestly.

781 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:01pm

re: #779 WindUpBird

They... never would have occurred to me :)

782 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:20pm

re: #765 Mr Pancakes

A favorite REM song of mine... old school.


[Video]

Oh yeah.

783 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:29pm

re: #776 windsagio

? Was she or was she NOT an important woman affiliated with Washington and politics in general?

784 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:34pm

re: #768 TheMatrix31

She's not going to run, so I don't care.

Thanks for the insight, Nostradamus.

785 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:31:53pm

re: #783 TheMatrix31

"Old hag".

That's kinda messed up, man.

786 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:32:04pm

re: #450 windsagio

Well, WUB and I are actually the same person, so I shouldn't talk.

I ran basic Catonian linguistic analysis on both of you, and you're lying.

He has wit, and brains, and panache.

You just have gall.

787 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:32:34pm

re: #763 TheMatrix31

Sorry, I'd rather look at Palin than her oh-so-sexy politically-affiliated counterparts Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, etc.

How cute! Are you aware that there are Republican women over the age of 50 with real jobs in government?

788 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:32:49pm

re: #774 windsagio

Condoleeza Rice is not too attractive, Laura Bush is pretty, Bachmann is not terrible looking, Fiorina is "eh", Meg Whitman honestly reminds me of a marshmallow.

789 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:20pm

re: #785 windsagio

After what she said a couple months ago, fuck her.

790 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:28pm

re: #788 TheMatrix31

Its kinda this ugly combination of partisanship and objectification. Its ... urgh.

791 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:33:37pm

re: #788 TheMatrix31

Condoleeza Rice is not too attractive, Laura Bush is pretty, Bachmann is not terrible looking, Fiorina is "eh", Meg Whitman honestly reminds me of a marshmallow.

dude...

792 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:34:01pm

re: #787 SanFranciscoZionist

How cute! Are you aware that there are Republican women over the age of 50 with real jobs in government?

"I am aware!"

/Costanza

793 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:34:21pm

re: #791 JasonA

dude...

dude...what?

794 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:34:22pm

re: #781 windsagio

They... never would have occurred to me :)

Also of course Believer

795 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:34:57pm

re: #792 TheMatrix31

"I am aware!"

/Costanza

You seem pissed off about something.

796 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:35:27pm

re: #787 SanFranciscoZionist

How cute! Are you aware that there are Republican women over the age of 50 with real jobs in government?

What matters is that every politician currently in office, men and women, are less attractive than Scott Brown.
/

797 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:35:40pm

re: #795 Mr Pancakes

I'm not pissed off at all. The discussion was about how hot Palin is and I was thinking of other politicians. What's wrong with that?

798 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:09pm

re: #774 windsagio

lol I didn't notice that.

I did however notice another pattern in that list.

I guess left-leaning women in politics are ugly?

Most women of note in politics are ladies of a certain age. Chortling about how UG-ly middle-aged ladies are is not my cup of tea, but right-leaning women seem to be in about the same boat when it comes to getting middle-aged.

799 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:30pm

re: #797 TheMatrix31

I'm not pissed off at all. The discussion was about how hot Palin is and I was thinking of other politicians. What's wrong with that?

Nothing man...... relax.

800 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:48pm

re: #788 TheMatrix31

Condoleeza Rice is not too attractive, Laura Bush is pretty, Bachmann is not terrible looking, Fiorina is "eh", Meg Whitman honestly reminds me of a marshmallow.

See, I don't get where you're getting that Bachmann is better looking than Meg Whitman, Bachmann has crazyeyes and looks wound too tight, like beef jerky, Meg Whitman is older, but she looks nice, looks like a normal pleasant person

801 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:36:57pm

re: #774 windsagio

lol I didn't notice that.

I did however notice another pattern in that list.

I guess left-leaning women in politics are ugly?

Same old same old Republican sexist talking point. All Democratic women - they bash for their looks. Over and over and over again.

And along comes Sarah...

That was the reason I was disgusted with McCain's choice.

Then she spoke. More disgusted - and EMBARRASSED. Hello? Women weren't embarrassed? And she's been going at it for 2 years now.

We tolerate stupid cute women. Thank you very very much.

802 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:37:04pm

re: #798 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh of course. Its just a funny side-effect that he listed all left'ish women >>

803 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:37:07pm

re: #775 TheMatrix31

That old hag was in the press over there for how long?

Helen Thomas is an asshole, but she'd be an asshole if she were thirty-five and sexy as hell.

804 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:38:14pm

re: #788 TheMatrix31

Condoleeza Rice is not too attractive, Laura Bush is pretty, Bachmann is not terrible looking, Fiorina is "eh", Meg Whitman honestly reminds me of a marshmallow.

You have terrible taste. Condi is stunning.

805 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:38:33pm

re: #804 SanFranciscoZionist

(I shouldn't but)

She's also black.

806 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:38:55pm

re: #801 Stanley Sea

We tolerate stupid cute women. Thank you very very much.

I don't. I wouldn't even do them for free.

807 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:21pm

re: #798 SanFranciscoZionist

Most women of note in politics are ladies of a certain age. Chortling about how UG-ly middle-aged ladies are is not my cup of tea, but right-leaning women seem to be in about the same boat when it comes to getting middle-aged.

I beg to differ.

808 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:38pm

re: #805 windsagio

(I shouldn't but)

She's also black.

No you shouldn't have done that. That's why I find you annoying.

809 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:45pm

re: #36 Jeff In Ohio

One early morning when I was riding frequently, I was out in southeastern Indiana, heading west towards the Markland damn on my BMW R/75. I pulled up to a red light in a small town when I heard a honk behind me. Obviously someone in a hurry at 6am on a Sunday, so I waved them around. A nice looking Harley pulled past gunned it the rest of the way through town in what appeared to be a show of derision for my old, red Beemer. He pulled fairly quickly out ahead, I was in no hurry, and I didn't really want to get stuck behind him, so I dawdled a bit the rest of the way through town and eased back out onto the 2 late highway. About 20 minutes later, I was pulling through a long stretch of corn where I could see him in the distance. I quickly caught up and could here his Harley trying to muster some more speed down the stretch. Cruising in 3rd at about 60 miles an hour, I pulled into the opposing lane to pass him. As I pulled along side, he made one more valiant effort to get his Hog some juice by toeing it into high gear and twisting the throttle. I smiled and calmly popped my gear into 4th, hit the throttle and felt the front shocks of my motorcycle lift up as I surged forward. I could barely hear his choking carburetor a short while later as I rushed into 105mph, released the throttle and leaned hard to the left into a turned that dipped down and up through a grove of maple trees. The force from the curve kept my speed from decreasing to quickly and I emerged on the other side about 80mph with that exhilarating feeling you get watching the pavement rush by at high speeds, and the cylinder head lingering right above the asphalt as you guide your body and the motorcycle threw a turn.

On Indiana 156 between Rising Sun and Vevay? That's a nice road, a lot of twists and turns along the Ohio.

810 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:39:52pm

re: #801 Stanley Sea

Oh get over yourself. Jesus Christ. re: #805 windsagio

(I shouldn't but)

She's also black.

Holy shit that's offensive.

811 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:13pm

re: #808 Mr Pancakes

It was too good a line to let go, though.

812 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:25pm

re: #805 windsagio

(I shouldn't but)

She's also black.

She looks really good in boots.

813 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:45pm

re: #797 TheMatrix31

I'm not pissed off at all. The discussion was about how hot Palin is and I was thinking of other politicians. What's wrong with that?

You idiot. The conver was NEVER about Palin's attractiveness.

It was about her support of Dr. Laura saying NI$%$er 11 times.

You are the ugliest slimeball. Time to leave Matrix31. Time to leave.

814 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:40:57pm

re: #812 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh I agree, she's an attractive woman.

815 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:31pm

re: #804 SanFranciscoZionist

You have terrible taste. Condi is stunning.

agreed, I dig Condi's looks, not that I'm really in a position to be an authority, but I think she looks cool

816 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:32pm

re: #807 Nimed

I beg to differ.

Now, that was the only time I really appreciated Pam Geller. She supported Miss Whatever.

817 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:32pm

re: #813 Stanley Sea

I'll share with you the zinger I was trying to hold in then >>

"I bet he's the kind of guy who wonders why nobody will date him"

818 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:33pm

re: #814 windsagio

I hear she plays piano very well.

819 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:36pm

re: #805 windsagio

(I shouldn't but)

She's also black.

Most of us have this thing, called self-control, that stops us from saying things we know we shouldn't say. And for the record, nothing he's said has made me think for a moment that that's the reason he would find her unattractive. I don't find her that attractive myself.

820 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:41:46pm

re: #803 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes she would.

re: #804 SanFranciscoZionist

My taste in women is just fine, thank you very much. Adriana Lima, Charlize Theron, Halle Barry, Melissa Theuriau, Natalie Portman are just a few names of ladies I find abso-fucking-lutely stunning.

821 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:06pm

re: #811 windsagio

It was too good a line to let go, though.

Sez you.

A little racism is good for the soul, though, right?

822 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:37pm

re: #821 Cato the Elder

I'd ask the Palestinians, dude :p

823 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:41pm

re: #802 windsagio

Oh of course. Its just a funny side-effect that he listed all left'ish women >>

bwaha

"Let's handpick the oldies!"

824 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:42:44pm

re: #820 TheMatrix31

Yes she would.

re: #804 SanFranciscoZionist

My taste in women is just fine, thank you very much. Adriana Lima, Charlize Theron, Halle Barry, Melissa Theuriau, Natalie Portman are just a few names of ladies I find abso-fucking-lutely stunning.

Well, OK, you have terrible taste when it comes to Condi Rice.

825 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:11pm

re: #816 SanFranciscoZionist

There's nothing like low expectations. :)

826 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:43:27pm

re: #813 Stanley Sea

You idiot. The conver was NEVER about Palin's attractiveness.

It was about her support of Dr. Laura saying NI$%$er 11 times.

You are the ugliest slimeball. Time to leave Matrix31. Time to leave.

No, the conversation was actually you interjecting in another discussion throwing in the "So, how about that Sarah Palin", as if to get everyone back on the same page of slamming someone to bring about camraderie again, and then my post was about her being worthless and how people are sick of her. THAT was the beginning of the convo.

Fuck her and fuck Dr. Laura for what happened with that.

827 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:44:02pm

re: #822 windsagio

I'd ask the Palestinians, dude :p

You really do just love to suck, don't you?

828 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:03pm

re: #823 WindUpBird

Have any young lady politicians (on both sides, to comply with the fairness doctrine) that we can discuss?

829 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:50pm

re: #828 TheMatrix31

How about we don't discuss female politicians on the basis of their desirability as a mate?

830 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:45:58pm

re: #828 TheMatrix31

Have any young lady politicians (on both sides, to comply with the fairness doctrine) that we can discuss?

What fairness doctrine?

831 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:08pm

re: #623 Stanley Sea

Yeah, good luck. Wind hasn't done anything ban-able. It's actually pretty funny. I'm no gamer, or farker even, I'm really out of touch if you want to dig deep. But I see it, clear as day (old saying) the old vs. new with the gripe against Wind, he's just new blood and ya'll oldies don't get it.

Oh, yeah, and if you want something Wind has done here that would be considered something ban-able, its insinuating that other users on the site are racist.

832 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:15pm

John Boehner is one of the least attractive men in politics

he looks like pumpkinhead

he looks like a character from Super Mario Bros

833 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:37pm

re: #813 Stanley Sea

You are the ugliest slimeball. Time to leave Matrix31. Time to leave.

Of course, your little balls of slime come coated in the very best maple sugar, with no artificial flavorings or colors.

About people like you, my grandpa used to say, "She thinks her shit don't stink, but her farts give her away."

834 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:46pm

re: #830 Mr Pancakes

They're busting balls about me initially only having left-leaning ladies in my list.

835 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:48pm

Eric Cantor is pretty cute, tho

He sorta looks like Egon, which is A+++

836 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:46:56pm

re: #831 TheMatrix31

Oh, yeah, and if you want something Wind has done here that would be considered something ban-able, its insinuating that other users on the site are racist.

Stoppit.... just stoppit.

837 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:09pm

re: #832 WindUpBird

He does. It's pretty funny actually.

838 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:15pm

re: #831 TheMatrix31

Oh, yeah, and if you want something Wind has done here that would be considered something ban-able, its insinuating that other users on the site are racist.

Oh, hell, we do that all the time around here.

839 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:24pm

re: #832 WindUpBird

can we do dead people?

840 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:44pm

re: #834 TheMatrix31

They're busting balls about me initially only having left-leaning ladies in my list.

Which was an accident. Of course.

841 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:47:44pm

re: #829 windsagio

How about we don't discuss female politicians on the basis of their desirability as a mate?

You're right

switching to dudes!

Howard Dean is NOT ATTRACTIVE, he got that fucking joker grin, like he's huffing smilex gas

842 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:01pm

re: #836 Mr Pancakes

Hey, I'm not the one who insinuated another user was a racist. Kudos for saying that shit shouldn't fly, though.

843 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:48:55pm

re: #838 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, hell, we do that all the time around here.

Well, that's fucking bullshit. How do race relations expect to be solved when you have pricks insulting other users and insinuating racist motives for actions or words?

844 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:00pm

re: #842 TheMatrix31

Hey, I'm not the one who insinuated another user was a racist. Kudos for saying that shit shouldn't fly, though.

Bear with me.... I have a tiny brain.

845 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:12pm

re: #841 WindUpBird

Creepy guy. Agree with you there.

846 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:49:52pm

re: #831 TheMatrix31

Oh, yeah, and if you want something Wind has done here that would be considered something ban-able, its insinuating that other users on the site are racist.

waahh wahh waaahh

Why not just keep up with the sexualizing of every female in the public eye.

You are a pig.

847 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:07pm

re: #839 windsagio

If you want to be called a necrophiliac.

848 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:08pm

re: #843 TheMatrix31

Well, that's fucking bullshit. How do race relations expect to be solved when you have pricks insulting other users and insinuating racist motives for actions or words?

I have no idea how race relations expect to be solved. I do, however, know that this thread is absolutely ridiculous.

849 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:14pm

Come on everybody....... let's go argue on the new thread!

850 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:19pm

Scott Brown, too square for me, too GQ, kinda creepy, a guy's gotta have at least some sort of adorable imperfection

It's really frustrating, but Rand Paul is HELLA CUTE

too bad he's bonkers :(

851 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:41pm

re: #846 Stanley Sea

waahh wahh waaahh

Why not just keep up with the sexualizing of every female in the public eye.

You are a pig.

Shut the fuck up, dude. You OBVIOUSLY missed my point. Jesus H. Christ almighty what a self-righteous prick.

852 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:50:59pm

re: #846 Stanley Sea

waahh wahh waaahh

Why not just keep up with the sexualizing of every female in the public eye.

You are a pig.

And you are a prig...when it suits you to be one.

853 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:51:01pm

re: #850 WindUpBird

Paul Ryan's a good lookin' dude.

854 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:51:35pm

Romney, same thing, too plastic, too forced

Gore was only good looking when he had the beard, and only then because he had the beard and the way too perfect hair, like he was preserved in an oxygen chamber

855 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:52:17pm

re: #853 TheMatrix31

Paul Ryan's a good lookin' dude.

he is, he's got those nifty graying temples, those pretty much never fail

856 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:52:44pm

re: #852 Cato the Elder

So now its SS that gets the spur?

Stay classy.

857 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:53:09pm

re: #841 WindUpBird

Romney is pretty good looking, in a sort of classical way.

Female politicians -- can I choose a Portuguese one?

Image: 20050914pln_0003.jpg

858 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:53:16pm

re: #833 Cato the Elder

Of course, your little balls of slime come coated in the very best maple sugar, with no artificial flavorings or colors.

About people like you, my grandpa used to say, "She thinks her shit don't stink, but her farts give her away."

Cato, all I can ask is that you deal with the subject at hand.

If you want to bring up the past, well then at least dig up the comments that offended you and repost them to make your case.

Otherwise, it's confused vitriol.

859 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:54:06pm

re: #857 Nimed

Romney is pretty good looking, in a sort of classical way.

Female politicians -- can I choose a Portuguese one?

Image: 20050914pln_0003.jpg

oh he's good looking, but he's not my type. I need a sort of quirkiness, Romney has no quirkiness :D

860 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:54:14pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Damn. I'm having grilled mahi ($5 from trader joes but will serve 4). Homegrown green bean and onion stir fry. White rice. Damn fine but I envy your duck.

The duck is dead, frozen, soon to be eaten, and shoved through someone's alimentary canal, and you ENVY him/her/it??

861 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:06pm

re: #856 windsagio

CLASSY? You have the audacity to call someone else unclassy less than like 100 posts after you insinuate another user is a racist?

Holy fucking shit. I'm living in bizarro world.

862 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:24pm

re: #843 TheMatrix31

Well, that's fucking bullshit. How do race relations expect to be solved when you have pricks insulting other users and insinuating racist motives for actions or words?

Is there really any hope for race relations improvement when someone calls Matrix a racist on the internet?

863 boredtechindenver  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:29pm

re: #722 windsagio

lady does an amazing live version of "Poker Face"


[Video]

I don't know why, but I love the Pomplamoose version of Telephone

864 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:53pm

re: #858 Stanley Sea

Cato, all I can ask is that you deal with the subject at hand.

If you want to bring up the past, well then at least dig up the comments that offended you and repost them to make your case.

Otherwise, it's confused vitriol.

No, I was just noticin' that when I attack GOP women, you don't give a fuck. In fact, you give updings.

But let an opponent attack a Dummycrat, and you're suddenly like, all, knickers-twisty.

Like I said: when it suits you.

865 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:55:57pm

re: #861 TheMatrix31

I'm pretty audacious :)

866 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:56:20pm

re: #842 TheMatrix31

Hey, I'm not the one who insinuated another user was a racist. Kudos for saying that shit shouldn't fly, though.

Racist accusation? DEATH

Sexual description of women? A - OK

NOT

Loser, asshole.

I want you to go to bed, but really, you will have no redemption with me.

867 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:56:46pm

re: #857 Nimed

Romney is pretty good looking, in a sort of classical way.

Female politicians -- can I choose a Portuguese one?

Image: 20050914pln_0003.jpg

Hey....

"Why not just keep up with the sexualizing of every female in the public eye.

You are a pig."


Of course, if we're going international, the queen of Jordan and the batshit crazy President (I think) of Argentina have to be included.

868 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:58:00pm

re: #866 Stanley Sea

Racism is 100-fucking-percent frowned upon. Talking about whether someone is hot or not is NOT anything unusual.

What the fuck world am I living in?

869 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 10:58:38pm
870 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:02:33pm

re: #864 Cato the Elder

No, I was just noticin' that when I attack GOP women, you don't give a fuck. In fact, you give updings.

But let an opponent attack a Dummycrat, and you're suddenly like, all, knickers-twisty.

Like I said: when it suits you.

It's all about Palin. That I will CHEER and APPLAUD. Sarah Palin is a liar, fraud and professional demagogue.

I don't need to list my reasons.

I've never applauded the abuse on any other Republican (or Dem) woman.

Sister Sarah is a different case.

You know this.

871 Nimed  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:20pm

re: #867 TheMatrix31

Hey...

"Why not just keep up with the sexualizing of every female in the public eye.

You are a pig."

Of course, if we're going international, the queen of Jordan and the batshit crazy President (I think) of Argentina have to be included.

There's a continuum here. One thing is saying that a given politician is attractive, another is giving fuckability ratings (just so we're clear, I'm not accusing you of the latter). There's a lot between these 2 extremes. But IMO plenty of commenters cross the line in LGF, so...

Queen Noor is pretty hot -- should we count people who aren't elected?

872 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:21pm

re: #870 Stanley Sea

Also, I'm not sure I see much encouragement of people saying "Wow, Palin is an ugly hag, I wouldn't touch her with somebody elses dick!" either.

873 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:30pm

re: #870 Stanley Sea

If you were a champion of civil rights and fairness and equality and all the other shit you crack yourself up to be, then you would slam the abuse of any woman, no exceptions.

874 bratwurst  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:04:52pm

re: #642 TheMatrix31

Well, obviously I'm just a bigoted conservative, so how in the hell WOULD I be tolerant?

re: #672 TheMatrix31

Like I give a shit. It's what you people have ascribed to me. I'm going to use it.

re: #869 TheMatrix31

Yeah, you're a dick too. No respect for you whatsoever anymore. Horrible, horrible person who plays the race card at the drop of a fucking hat, apparently. Piece of shit.

Image: crybaby.jpg

875 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:15pm

Wow, what an imre: #872 windsagio

Also, I'm not sure I see much encouragement of people saying "Wow, Palin is an ugly hag, I wouldn't touch her with somebody elses dick!" either.

THAT is her cover.

And they all fall for it.

876 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:34pm

re: #871 Nimed

Who cares about semantics? Jeez. It's an open thread, it's night time, sorry if I go and say that I would totally bang someone.

God forbid.

877 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:05:48pm

re: #875 Stanley Sea

PS: Check the link I put in the next thread, something postive for a change :D

878 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:06:04pm

re: #874 bratwurst

All you do is downding my shit and you don't even say anything to me directly. Screw yourself.

879 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:02pm

re: #870 Stanley Sea

It's all about Palin. That I will CHEER and APPLAUD. Sarah Palin is a liar, fraud and professional demagogue.

I don't need to list my reasons.

I've never applauded the abuse on any other Republican (or Dem) woman.

Sister Sarah is a different case.

You know this.

Really? So when I maul Ann "Orexia" Coulter, Michele "Anchor Baby" Malkin, Bachmann-Overdrive, "Dr. Laura", Laura "Engram" Ingraham, and various other poisonous witches of the right, including, first and foremost, the Harpy, you don't like that?

Liar. Partisan liar.

880 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:27pm

re: #380 freetoken

BTW, quite a bit of doomerish economic news the past couple of days... thinking about putting up a Pages on it.

Anyone in the mood for some doom?

A classic Fantastic Four with Dr. Doom sounds like fun right now.

881 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:28pm

re: #873 TheMatrix31

If you were a champion of civil rights and fairness and equality and all the other shit you crack yourself up to be, then you would slam the abuse of any woman, no exceptions.

I don't support the KKK or Stormfront.
I don't support Focus on the Family

Why am I required to support Sister Sarah?

Because she is a woman?

Oh go on.

882 bratwurst  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:50pm

re: #878 TheMatrix31

All you do is downding my shit and you don't even say anything to me directly. Screw yourself.


Stop posting shit one of these days and maybe we can talk.

883 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:07:55pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

No love lost for you, old man, but that's perfect.

884 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:08:05pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

Seriously, you're missing the point.

It should be pretty clear to everyone that the issue here isn't "OH NO SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT WOMEN!" but rather the really creepy mindset that sees women as sex objects first, and rates them on that criteria.

885 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:08:39pm

re: #881 Stanley Sea

I don't support the KKK or Stormfront.
I don't support Focus on the Family

Why am I required to support Sister Sarah?

Because she is a woman?

Oh go on.

Wake me up when that KKK, Stormfront, FOTF shit matters in this discussion.

My guess is that I'm going to be sleeping for a long fuckin' while.

886 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:09:19pm

re: #873 TheMatrix31

If you were a champion of civil rights and fairness and equality and all the other shit you crack yourself up to be, then you would slam the abuse of any woman, no exceptions.

Saying that Palin is a walking disaster isn't abuse, it's a fairly accurate assessment.

I don't know that Stanley has ever cracked herself up as a champion of civil rights, fairness and equality. That's

I do know that you've been moping around this site telling us you were a bigot for days. Someone finally took you at your word, and you didn't like it.

Can everyone stop whinging already?

887 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:09:25pm

re: #884 windsagio

I am not missing the point. I see it sitting there, right on top of your head.

888 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:09:56pm

re: #886 SanFranciscoZionist

+1 for the word "Whinging"

889 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:10:20pm
890 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:10:42pm

re: #887 Cato the Elder

The real point is that you added someone else your persona non grata list, and you're spewing bile at them.

Its pretty awful.

891 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:11:02pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

Really? So when I maul Ann "Orexia" Coulter, Michele "Anchor Baby" Malkin, Bachmann-Overdrive, "Dr. Laura", Laura "Engram" Ingraham, and various other poisonous witches of the right, including, first and foremost, the Harpy, you don't like that?

Liar. Partisan liar.

Well I do cringe whenever someone compares a woman to a transvestite. Coulter, Geller, One of the Housewives, et al.

Oh I guess I would be a whole person if I spoke up.

892 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:11:07pm

re: #886 SanFranciscoZionist

I was being sarcastic because Cato and that punk LVQ told me I was un-American, uneducated, a bigot, whatever.

893 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:11:09pm

re: #889 TheMatrix31

and then you went and defined a bunch of other women in politics on the same terms >>

894 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:12:04pm

re: #893 windsagio

Because that was part of the discussion.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

895 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:12:10pm

re: #889 TheMatrix31

Hey, you blind ass, illiterate piece of shit. If you SAW my ORIGINAL POST and SUBSEQUENT POSTS, you'd see what I said---that Palin is worthless now, she's not going to be relevant in the future, that's she's basically just a celebrity, and since celebrities don't deserve a shred of actual intellectual or marriage consideration (if I could marry Lima, I would), then the only thing to say about them is whether they're attractive or not.

ARE YOU REALLY THIS DENSE?!

Dude.... that is unacceptable...... yes he's annoying but cut him some slack.

896 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:12:27pm
897 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:12:44pm

re: #895 Mr Pancakes

Lol I had to laugh a little bit when I read that :D

898 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:13:27pm
899 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:14:12pm
900 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:14:54pm

re: #899 TheMatrix31

I'm being perfectly serious, you're only hurting yourself by being this mad.

I'm just some random asshole on the internet. We'll never meet, I'll never mess with your job.

Laugh it off.

901 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:15:06pm

re: #890 windsagio

The real point is that you added someone else your persona non grata list, and you're spewing bile at them.

Its pretty awful.

You yourself have never made that list, which is quite exclusive.

I don't see how you can speak for anyone else here, unless you're magically able to see my lists.

Which you aren't.

902 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:15:20pm

re: #897 windsagio

Lol I had to laugh a little bit when I read that :D

I have subscribed to Cato's non use of sarc tags.

You're not so bad, even though you're annoying.

903 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:15:59pm

re: #900 windsagio

Wish I could meet ya. Maybe we could have a beer summit, or something.

904 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:16:21pm

re: #900 windsagio

I'm just some random asshole on the internet.

Reposted for major truth.

905 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:16:27pm

OK ok, for the record, I find discussions of the looks of female office holders to be just kind of off, unless a very specific point is made. Female office holders are not there to be hot. They are there to gt a job done.

An exception to this rule is Palin, who holds no office, has no talent and only garnered national attention because she was seen by the GOP high command as a semi attractive, Hilary vote attractor.

I have no problem discussing whether or not actresses are attractive. Even bad actresses playing the part of politicians.

Palin is at best, a 6 (and that assumes she is not voicing any of her odious, ignorant, dishonest or immoral opinions). When stupidity is taken into account, she goes negative.

906 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:16:49pm

re: #899 TheMatrix31

Yeah, you had to laugh, because you're a fucking dick who got caught in his distortion.

Piece of crap. Boy I wish there was an ignore function on this site. You and your secretary(ies) would go first.

Check your blood pressure.... it's only a blog.

907 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:16:59pm

re: #903 TheMatrix31

To be honest, we'd probably get along swimmingly.

Real life vs. the internet :P

908 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:17:10pm
909 [deleted]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:18:26pm
910 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:18:29pm

re: #899 TheMatrix31

Yeah, you had to laugh, because you're a fucking dick who got caught in his distortion.

Piece of crap. Boy I wish there was an ignore function on this site. You and your secretary(ies) would go first.

ooohhh

or ewwwooohhh

however in 3 letters

911 windsagio  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:20:16pm

re: #909 TheMatrix31

912 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:20:33pm

re: #911 windsagio

Yah. Exactly.

913 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:21:11pm

re: #905 LudwigVanQuixote

OK ok, for the record, I find discussions of the looks of female office holders to be just kind of off, unless a very specific point is made. Female office holders are not there to be hot. They are there to gt a job done.

An exception to this rule is Palin, who holds no office, has no talent and only garnered national attention because she was seen by the GOP high command as a semi attractive, Hilary vote attractor.

I have no problem discussing whether or not actresses are attractive. Even bad actresses playing the part of politicians.

Palin is at best, a 6 (and that assumes she is not voicing any of her odious, ignorant, dishonest or immoral opinions). When stupidity is taken into account, she goes negative.

I find the looks of anyone in public life, male or female, to be fair game for satire.

If that were not true, then that whole British politmuppets show, which I found hysterical, would have been off-color.

It wasn't.

914 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:21:30pm

OK, all joking aside.

Matrix, ya gotta take yourself less seriously. I swear.

Wind, there was no call to make the 'she's black' comment. He's acting like a lunatic now, but he actually does have some call to be incensed over that.

Cato, there's no way I can make you less cranky, so I won't try.

I am going upthread, and if anyone wants to talk to me, that's where I'll be for a while.

Night all.

915 Stanghazi  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:22:34pm

re: #914 SanFranciscoZionist

And with that, there's hope.

916 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:23:19pm

re: #914 SanFranciscoZionist

Everyone else has to take themselves less seriously too. For example, Stanley Sea and that bullshit about "you are a pig" or whatever it was.

917 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:24:42pm

re: #916 TheMatrix31

Everyone else has to take themselves less seriously too. For example, Stanley Sea and that bullshit about "you are a pig" or whatever it was.

Take some deep breaths.

918 TheMatrix31  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:24:44pm

Funny thing is, if I made a Top 10 of fuckers on the internet that I've grown to absolutely loathe the most, I'm not sure any of you would crack the list.

But the way things are going, there may be a "BCS Buster" or eight rising up in the ranks.

919 Cato the Elder  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:28:10pm

re: #916 TheMatrix31

Everyone else has to take themselves less seriously too. For example, Stanley Sea and that bullshit about "you are a pig" or whatever it was.

You can't force a windbag to take itself less seriously. Or a prig.

Only you can do that, for yourself.

Have you noticed I don't bother downdinging them anymore? Except maybe once or twice a thread.

I prefer snappy comebacks, or rhyming quatrains, when the little twits call me a drunken old bastard.

Because that's maybe what I am, but they've never seen themselves snarkily compared to the sun before. Believe me, it burns their hides.

920 Charles Johnson  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:30:59pm

Ugh.

Timeout time.

921 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:34:33pm

re: #918 TheMatrix31

Alex Jones should make this fuckers list, though, he seems like he's genuinely really ruining peoples' minds with his garbage

922 Four More Tears  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:35:57pm

re: #921 WindUpBird

Alex Jones should make this fuckers list, though, he seems like he's genuinely really ruining peoples' minds with his garbage

Matrix isn't here right now. Please leave a message.

923 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:36:43pm

re: #545 Cato the Elder

Shall I compare him to a summer's day?

It beats comparing him to a Summers' Eve.

924 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:49:45pm

re: #763 TheMatrix31

Sorry, I'd rather look at Palin than her oh-so-sexy politically-affiliated counterparts Helen Thomas, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, etc.

You forgot Cynthia McKinney, Janet Reno, and Madeline Albright.

925 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Aug 19, 2010 11:55:51pm

re: #832 WindUpBird

John Boehner is one of the least attractive men in politics

he looks like pumpkinhead

he looks like a character from Super Mario Bros

My college has two members of Congress--Boehner and Jim Bunning.

I am not thrilled.

Boehner was a nothing when we were in college, but now he's a rich, powerful nothing.

926 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Aug 20, 2010 5:18:01am

re: #642 TheMatrix31

Well, obviously I'm just a bigoted conservative, so how in the hell WOULD I be tolerant?

All your comments read exactly like those on the stalker blog.

'Oh I must be a racist/'

'Oh I guess I'm a bigot then/'

'Muast be because we're all just haters here/'

'I must just be another bitter clinger/'

'I'm just a typical nasty white person/'

And why do all you guys use the backslash to indicate that you are speaking the truth? It's supposed to be for sarcasm.

927 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Aug 20, 2010 5:27:23am

re: #864 Cato the Elder

No, I was just noticin' that when I attack GOP women, you don't give a fuck. In fact, you give updings.

But let an opponent attack a Dummycrat, and you're suddenly like, all, knickers-twisty.

Like I said: when it suits you.

Are you really saying that people should applaud all attacks on women regardless of the reasons/justification? Looks like it.

PS I'm seriously disappointed with your attacks on windsagio and others lately.

You should figure that something is very wrong with what you are saying when you are getting updings and kudos from Matrix31.

928 Cato the Elder  Fri, Aug 20, 2010 2:47:23pm

re: #927 Jimmah

Are you really saying that people should applaud all attacks on women regardless of the reasons/justification? Looks like it.

PS I'm seriously disappointed with your attacks on windsagio and others lately.

You should figure that something is very wrong with what you are saying when you are getting updings and kudos from Matrix31.

I haven't started liking Matrix, Jimmah, and I'm not about to start liking someone else because you tell me to.

Fools are fools.

929 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Aug 20, 2010 4:54:59pm

re: #928 Cato the Elder

I haven't started liking Matrix, Jimmah, and I'm not about to start liking someone else because you tell me to.

Fools are fools.

I know, but he has started liking you - go figure. Btw, like Stanley Sea said earlier, I really don't see what your problem with windy is; as far as I can see, you two should be getting along.


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