Bad news from Sweden, where the xenophobic far right Sweden Democrats have made big gains in Sunday’s election: Eurofascists Break the Back of Scandinavian Tolerance.
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prairiefire Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:27:39pm |
This event was posted as a positive for Sweden in a RedState diary.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:30:01pm |
There is a global right wing movement ascendant, and pushing toward fascism.
This always fucking happens when the economy is doing very badly. there must be some kind of "mistrust and paranoia" gene that gets turned on when people are under high amounts of stress, and makes us kill each other in huge numbers.
Humans are so fucking stupid, I am sometimes ashamed to be one. My cat might lick his asshole, but he doesn't blame random group X for random problem Y, so I think he compares favorably to the average human.
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:30:07pm |
re: #1 b_sharp
Actually I do appreciate people making their crackpot ideas and/or bigoted natures known.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:31:57pm |
I appreciate you linking to background information on these guys since I am not familiar with them or Swedish politics as a whole really. Sound like another page of the big book of Eurofascism. I'm sure as already pointed out that there will be some on the right celebrating this as a positive for the Swedes. Xenophobia is such a scary and dangerous philosophy that seems to be on the rise globally.
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:33:24pm |
Anyone else notice the dual rise of protectionism and xenophobia?
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brownbagj Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:33:35pm |
My cat might lick his asshole, but he doesn't blame random group X for random problem Y, so I think he compares favorably to the average human.
You have a very quaint way of putting things Fozzy. :)
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:33:50pm |
What I wonder is how Charles even hears about this stuff. The political movements of Sweden are not exactly on the average American's radar, at all.
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CHARLES IS AN ALIEN BURN HIM !!! /
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:34:23pm |
re: #2 prairiefire
This event was posted as a positive for Sweden in a RedState diary.
I was just reading about this on Reuters... they are calling it, spinning it, whatever, as a defeat of the Social Democrats more than a win for the right...
at least that is my take.
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Max Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:35:10pm |
I've read the posts at LGF about the Eurofascists, but I'm looking for a good book about the far right in Europe.
I'm really interested in extremist ideologies, I love to study them.
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b_sharp Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:36:02pm |
re: #4 Idle Drifter
Actually I do appreciate people making their crackpot ideas and/or bigoted natures known.
I'm concerned that people still have bigoted natures.
Western culture has been working hard for the past 40 years to de-normalize that shit.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:37:09pm |
re: #4 Idle Drifter
Actually I do appreciate people making their crackpot ideas and/or bigoted natures known.
Yes. It's easier to deal with Bull Connor than a gracious school board.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:38:22pm |
re: #5 HappyWarrior
I appreciate you linking to background information on these guys since I am not familiar with them or Swedish politics as a whole really. Sound like another page of the big book of Eurofascism. I'm sure as already pointed out that there will be some on the right celebrating this as a positive for the Swedes. Xenophobia is such a scary and dangerous philosophy that seems to be on the rise globally.
I don't know anything about their politics either. All I know is they provide a lot of hot blondes to the world.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:39:04pm |
re: #14 NJDhockeyfan
I don't know anything about their politics either. All I know is they provide a lot of hot blondes to the world.
And morose B&W movies.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:39:44pm |
Hey kids...long day on task at work (it's amazing how much shit you can get done when you actually work at it). Home now, alternating between MNF and TRMS...the smack-down on McCain was worth tuning in for.
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Max Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:40:27pm |
re: #16 darthstar
Hey kids...long day on task at work (it's amazing how much shit you can get done when you actually work at it). Home now, alternating between MNF and TRMS...the smack-down on McCain was worth tuning in for.
RSM or Senator John?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:41:02pm |
re: #9 Fozzie Bear
What I wonder is how Charles even hears about this stuff. The political movements of Sweden are not exactly on the average American's radar, at all.
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CHARLES IS AN ALIEN BURN HIM !!! /
These are common topics on American neo-Nazi sites and Ron Paul forums. They see the rise of the European nationalists and the Tea Parties as an opportunity to change American politics.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:41:04pm |
re: #4 Idle Drifter
Actually I do appreciate people making their crackpot ideas and/or bigoted natures known.
I tend to agree in principle. However, it would seem to be the case that when large numbers of bigots speak up at once, crazy and often very bad things happen.
I mean, sure, I like to know where everybody really stands, but when destructive behaviors are openly displayed for prolonged periods, it has a way of breaking down the hard-won social taboos about racism developed in the western world over the past 40 years or so. Those taboos serve a valuable purpose, and were won at no small cost.
Now it is starting to seem that it was a temporary gain. Two steps, forward, on back, is the best we can really hope for over the long haul anyway. We still have a long way to go.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:41:07pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:41:10pm |
re: #9 Fozzie Bear
What I wonder is how Charles even hears about this stuff. The political movements of Sweden are not exactly on the average American's radar, at all.
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CHARLES IS AN ALIEN BURN HIM !!! /
Max posted it and then Charles made it a main page. Charles keeps his ear tuned for important news and he also has us to help out. We're the ace in the hole, you, me, and the rest of the Lizard Army.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:41:26pm |
re: #14 NJDhockeyfan
I don't know anything about their politics either. All I know is they provide a lot of hot blondes to the world.
Yep they certainly have and that is a good public service. This coming from a guy who prefers his girls brunettes.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:43:33pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:43:38pm |
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:44:43pm |
re: #25 negativ
Better music than ABBA has come from Sweden.
[Video]Just pointing that out.
I lost all respect for John McCain as a man when he said Dancing Queen was among his favorite songs ;). Kidding around but come on McCain- ABBA!?! and Dancing Queen.
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Max Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:45:15pm |
re: #25 negativ
Better music than ABBA has come from Sweden.
[Video]Just pointing that out.
Better movies too.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:45:54pm |
re: #25 negativ
Better music than ABBA has come from Sweden.
[Video]Just pointing that out.
My farts sound better than Abba.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:46:14pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
I lost all respect for John McCain as a man when he said Dancing Queen was among his favorite songs ;). Kidding around but come on McCain- ABBA!?! and Dancing Queen.
It's no "Fernando".
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jaunte Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:46:38pm |
In case anyone had any illusions left about who the Sweden Democrats are...
from the earlier LGF posting,
The History of the Sweden Democrats
The Sweden Democrats formed a youth group, SDU, Sweden Democratic Youth. The first chairman was Robert Vesterlund. Today, he is more known as the leading figure in the network behind the Nazi homepage Info-14 (Truumax note: One of the most vile swedish neo-nazi homepages in existence).
The Info-14 site (Google cache linked) is currently running a story entitled: "A Hero Has Passed Away, Rest in Peace Bruce Pierce", honoring the 1984 assassin of Alan Berg, and founder of The Order, who died in August.
More about Pierce from the SPLC:
[Link: www.splcenter.org...]
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:46:52pm |
re: #12 b_sharp
It took hundreds of years to get past the whole witch craft hysteria. I'm still hopeful that future generations don't have to put up with this crap and we have moved on as a species.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:47:48pm |
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:48:19pm |
re: #13 Decatur Deb
Yes. It's easier to deal with Bull Connor than a gracious school board.
Never said it was going to be easy, I only appreciate it as far as knowing where the lines in the sand are drawn and who to cast in my lot.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:49:15pm |
re: #34 Idle Drifter
Never said it was going to be easy, I only appreciate it as far as knowing where the lines in the sand are drawn and who to cast in my lot.
I wasn't being sarcastic. It is easier.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:49:33pm |
re: #28 NJDhockeyfan
My farts sound better than Abba.
Then you won't like this, but too bad:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:50:29pm |
More bad news from Sweden...
Swedish Neo-Nazi Party Wins Local Seat
In the shadow of the Sweden Democrats' highly publicized electoral success last night, Expo have learned that the neo-Nazi party Svenskarnas parti (The Swedes' Party) have won a seat in the Grästorp municipality in western Sweden. The party, founded in 1994 under the name Nationalsocialistisk front, has thus won its first local mandate.
Party leader Daniel Höglund has accomplished what no one thought possible: making room for a neo-Nazi party in a democratically elected assembly. But when the Swedish Election Authority presented its final tally of Grästorp, it was revealed that Svenskarnas parti had indeed won 2,8 percent of the vote. The 102 votes were enough to secure one mandate for the party. The chairwoman of the local electoral board, Agnetha Wallander, confirms the result.
Two years ago, the party was known under the name Nationalsocialistisk front. It was dismantled and relaunched under a new name, Folkfronten (The People's Front), in November 2008. The purpose of this makeover was to appeal to a broader range of prospective voters. The vulgar anti-Semitism was toned down, the annual celebration of Adolf Hitler's birthday scrapped and the Nazi symbols removed. Instead, the party began to focus on criticizing multiculturalism, portraying themselves as a radical alternative to the Sweden Democrats.
This is the first time since the 1940's that Sweden has seen a Nazi party in a democratically elected assembly.
This is becoming a very popular formula for Nazi parties all over Europe.
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:51:16pm |
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:51:26pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:51:49pm |
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:52:46pm |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
More bad news from Sweden...
Swedish Neo-Nazi Party Wins Local SeatThis is becoming a very popular formula for Nazi parties all over Europe.
Yep hiding the outright Nazi rhetoric seems to allow them to mainstream themselves more easier. Did anyone see gosh I want to say it was a BBC documentary called Young, Nazi, and Proud. British journalist whom is Jewish followed the BNP's youth leader, Mark something other there around and at the very end of the documentary casually revealed that he was Jewish. BNP d-bag went ballistic.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:53:12pm |
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:53:15pm |
re: #26 HappyWarrior
I lost all respect for John McCain as a man when he said Dancing Queen was among his favorite songs ;). Kidding around but come on McCain- ABBA!?! and Dancing Queen.
Tastes in music is like tastes in Wine..
Everybody can disagree and everybody be right at the same time...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:54:54pm |
re: #42 brookly red
is this a set up for a Palin joke?
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse
with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
Nordfink"...
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:56:14pm |
re: #20 Fozzie Bear
I tend to agree in principle. However, it would seem to be the case that when large numbers of bigots speak up at once, crazy and often very bad things happen.
I mean, sure, I like to know where everybody really stands, but when destructive behaviors are openly displayed for prolonged periods, it has a way of breaking down the hard-won social taboos about racism developed in the western world over the past 40 years or so. Those taboos serve a valuable purpose, and were won at no small cost.
Now it is starting to seem that it was a temporary gain. Two steps, forward, on back, is the best we can really hope for over the long haul anyway. We still have a long way to go.
Well, from personal experience it's help me convince a few family members to be cautious about who to trust in controversial issues such as the "Ground Zero Mosque." I didn't rely on it completely, just as one more point in my case of religious tolerance and the bigots exploitation methods.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:56:29pm |
Horst Nordfisk... I shoulda seen that coming.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:56:31pm |
re: #43 HoosierHoops
Tastes in music is like tastes in Wine..
Everybody can disagree and everybody be right at the same time...
Heh I've never heard that before. All I can say is in forty years, I don't want some politican male or female saying a Backstreet Boys or NSYNC song is their favorite. Hated that crap as a kid in the 90's and still hate it now.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:57:04pm |
So how much damage can those 20 seats do to Sweden's legislative balance of power? Aren't these seats in the minority?
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:57:40pm |
re: #44 negativ
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse
with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
Nordfink"...
I admire a girl that knows how to make a shank from a toothbrush...
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:59:52pm |
re: #48 eclectic infidel
So how much damage can those 20 seats do to Sweden's legislative balance of power? Aren't these seats in the minority?
Nuts and bolts politics here...
Sweden's ruling coalition heads for minority government
However, Reinfeldt's majority was undermined by the far right, who have sought to harness anti-immigrant sentiment in a country where one in seven residents is foreign-born.The strong performance by the Sweden Democrats and the prospect of a hung parliament looked likely to trigger a fall in the krona against the euro and volatility on the Stockholm financial markets.
The governing coalition and the centre-left opposition bloc have pledged not to join forces with the Sweden Democrats.
The rise of the far-right party, which has moved away from its skinhead roots under a youthful leadership and the slogan "Tradition and Security", reflects a wider anti-immigrant backlash across Europe, as recession and budget cuts take hold. In their campaign, the Sweden Democrats raised the spectre of creeping Islamicisation of society and promised to crack down on immigration.
It would not be the first time that an anti-immigrant grouping has entered Sweden's parliament. A short-lived rightwing protest won nearly 7% of the vote in 1991.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:00:32pm |
And just we're clear, there is some history here. Sweden remained a major trading partner with Germany during the 2nd World War, supplying iron ore the Germans used to build the panzers, rifles and artillery that killed so many Americans. Thousands of Swedes serves in SS Division Nordland. They did this thinking the choice was between the Communists and the Nazis and they chose the Nazis.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:00:48pm |
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:02:14pm |
re: #51 Dark_Falcon
And just we're clear, there is some history here. Sweden remained a major trading partner with Germany during the 2nd World War, supplying iron ore the Germans used to build the panzers, rifles and artillery that killed so many Americans. Thousands of Swedes serves in SS Division Nordland. They did this thinking the choice was between the Communists and the Nazis and they chose the Nazis.
True that but then again most European countries I believe sent some contingent of volunteers to the Waffen SS.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:05:23pm |
re: #53 HappyWarrior
True that but then again most European countries I believe sent some contingent of volunteers to the Waffen SS.
True. Only Poland did not. France and the Netherlands has SS contingents large enough to be their own divisions. I think Nordland was actually the Dutch formation, let me check.
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engineer cat Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:05:34pm |
The vulgar anti-Semitism was toned down, the annual celebration of Adolf Hitler's birthday scrapped and the Nazi symbols removed. Instead, the party began to focus on criticizing multiculturalism
and in america we just add a little amnesia and denial, and it's voila! "how dare you call me a racist!!!"
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jaunte Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:05:42pm |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
Take a look at the The Svenskarnas Parti flag (at about 2:00 in this video about one of their demonstrations against multiculturalism /mångkultur ).
Four algiz runes set in a cross shape on a yellow field. Algiz stands for 'protection, shelter, warding off evil.' Just the thing for nativists.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:06:25pm |
re: #47 HappyWarrior
Heh I've never heard that before. All I can say is in forty years, I don't want some politican male or female saying a Backstreet Boys or NSYNC song is their favorite. Hated that crap as a kid in the 90's and still hate it now.
I love music...My kids love music..They are ate up...You may not believe this but Jordan in Iraq played Peter Frampton with 50 cent mixed in all the time on his MP3 player.. Who knew?
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:07:55pm |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
I love music...My kids love music..They are ate up...You may not believe this but Jordan in Iraq played Peter Frampton with 50 cent mixed in all the time on his MP3 player.. Who knew?
The wonderful thing about music is how love of it is passed down. It's funny, I'm listening to guys I remember my dad casually mentioning their passing away since Townes Van Zandt and Harry Nilsson.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:08:42pm |
re: #54 Dark_Falcon
True. Only Poland did not. France and the Netherlands has SS contingents large enough to be their own divisions. I think Nordland was actually the Dutch formation, let me check.
Yeah I think I saw a history channel special about the SS where one of the last guys in Hitler's buinker was a French Waffen SS volunteer. Didn't know that about Poland. Not surprised given the Nazi attitude on Poles though.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:09:23pm |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
I love music...My kids love music..They are ate up...You may not believe this but Jordan in Iraq played Peter Frampton with 50 cent mixed in all the time on his MP3 player.. Who knew?
there outta be a law...
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:10:03pm |
re: #55 engineer dog
The vulgar anti-Semitism was toned down, the annual celebration of Adolf Hitler's birthday scrapped and the Nazi symbols removed. Instead, the party began to focus on criticizing multiculturalism
and in america we just add a little amnesia and denial, and it's voila! "how dare you call me a racist!!!"
It kills me. Turned into the fine art of frame flipping:
From Ta-Nehisi Coates
But like all bigotry, the most potent component of racism is frame-flipping--positioning the bigot as the actual victim. So the gay do not simply want to marry, they want to convert our children into sin. The Jews do not merely want to be left in peace, they actually are plotting world take-over. And the blacks are not actually victims of American power, but beneficiaries of the war against hard-working whites. This is a respectable, more sensible, bigotry, one that does not seek to name-call, preferring instead change the subject and strawman. Thus segregation wasn't necessary to keep the n*****s in line, it was necessary to protect the honor of white women
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sagehen Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:11:42pm |
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:11:42pm |
re: #54 Dark_Falcon
True. Only Poland did not. France and the Netherlands has SS contingents large enough to be their own divisions. I think Nordland was actually the Dutch formation, let me check.
Poland's experience of WWII was one of the great tragedies of history. The Free Poles really got the shaft by the Soviets and their communist allies.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:14:25pm |
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:14:39pm |
re: #65 Idle Drifter
Poland's national anthem is literally "Poland is Not Yet Lost".
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:14:57pm |
re: #54 Dark_Falcon
True. Only Poland did not. France and the Netherlands has SS contingents large enough to be their own divisions. I think Nordland was actually the Dutch formation, let me check.
I checked and Nordland was the Scandinavian SS division. The Dutch division was Nederland and the French one Charlemange.
I have major interest in WWII history so accuracy is important to me.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:15:17pm |
re: #59 HappyWarrior
The wonderful thing about music is how love of it is passed down. It's funny, I'm listening to guys I remember my dad casually mentioning their passing away since Townes Van Zandt and Harry Nilsson.
When Nikki got her Drivers license she drove me to mall so we could go shopping For school clothes..We got in her car she put in a Led Zepplin tape turned it up full blast and told me she would turn it down if it was too loud..
I have never been more proud..I helped raise a beautiful led head
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jaunte Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:15:32pm |
Anybody want to help the GPS?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:15:33pm |
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:15:36pm |
re: #62 Stanley Sea
And I will mea culpa for posting that many many times, but again, it kills me.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:15:49pm |
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:16:54pm |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
Glad you brought that to attention here. So not only does Sweden find itself with a rising xenophobic nationalist party, but even blatantly neo-Nazi groups are making headway locally.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:17:04pm |
re: #70 jaunte
Anybody want to help the GPS?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I suppose "Get lost." would be asking too much.
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Idle Drifter Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:20:14pm |
re: #67 Obdicut
Poland's national anthem is literally "Poland is Not Yet Lost".
Poland has disappeared and reappeared throughout history from maps so their Anthem is most fitting.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:23:55pm |
re: #60 HappyWarrior
Yeah I think I saw a history channel special about the SS where one of the last guys in Hitler's buinker was a French Waffen SS volunteer. Didn't know that about Poland. Not surprised given the Nazi attitude on Poles though.
Here's a Wiki link on the French SS and the defense of Berlin.
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sagehen Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:25:23pm |
My grandmother might have been from Poland. "Maybe, sometimes, I'm not sure -- it depends what year your map was from, and I'm not telling you what year I was born..."
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:25:53pm |
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:25:58pm |
I couldn't help myself, I Googled "Swedish pizza" ...
oh the horror!
[Link: www.ruethedayblog.com...]
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:27:46pm |
re: #80 brookly red
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sagehen Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:28:29pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:28:29pm |
I couldn't help myself, I Googled "Swedish pizza" ...oh the horror!
[Link: www.ruethedayblog.com...]
Bananas on pizza... [shudder]
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ErikJ76 Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:29:32pm |
re: #74 freetoken
Glad you brought that to attention here. So not only does Sweden find itself with a rising xenophobic nationalist party, but even blatantly neo-Nazi groups are making headway locally.
I wouldn't go as far as saying that getting elected in a municipality election with 102 votes means that Neo-Nazi groups are making headway, even locally.
But I'm saddened, furious and worried about the rise of the Sweden Democrats and that our current government in the future might make them a part of the government.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:29:33pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:29:38pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:29:40pm |
re: #79 cliffster
Denver Broncos wide receiver Kenny McKinley has died
He was 23
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:29:51pm |
re: #79 cliffster
Denver Broncos wide receiver Kenny McKinley has died
He was 23
Initial repts = suicide. TRAGIC
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:31:26pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:31:56pm |
re: #89 brookly red
Bananas & curry powder... I declare a fawtah!
Whoa, let's not be hasty!
Did you declare a thumb war first?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:32:14pm |
re: #89 brookly red
Bananas & curry powder... I declare a fawtah!
Deep in that article someone describes pizza w/ haggis.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:32:55pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:33:39pm |
re: #89 brookly red
Bananas & curry powder... I declare a fawtah!
Curry powder I could see having a place, but not mixed with fruit! Now, curry powder with Deep Dish, that might have some potential.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:33:57pm |
re: #73 NJDhockeyfan
Ericsson, Husqvarna, and Björn Borg!
A Borg drone with a cybernetic tennis racket prosthesis would be intimidating, indeed.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:34:07pm |
re: #90 Varek Raith
Whoa, let's not be hasty!
Did you declare a thumb war first?
no this is unforgivable...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:34:39pm |
re: #91 Decatur Deb
Deep in that article someone describes pizza w/ haggis.
We should ask Jimmah about that one. Sounds Scottish.
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prairiefire Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:34:47pm |
I don't care for the Parliamentary form of government.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:34:48pm |
Johan Winlöf's Secret Past as Violent Nazi Leader
In Bangkok the late Johan Winlöf was for 15 years known as a well liked, successful businessman and creative entrepreneur. Only a few knew that the Swede was covering up a much darker past. For years he was the leader of Sweden's Neo-Nazis and had several convictions for violent behaviour.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:35:13pm |
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:35:25pm |
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:35:39pm |
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:37:07pm |
Hey Teach! (SFZ) would love to hear stories about your new gig!
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:40:11pm |
Oh brother.
The loons are out tonight.
This guy registered a sock puppet account, laid low for a couple of weeks, then posted a completely whacked out Page.
Bye again, don't come back.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:40:39pm |
re: #99 HoosierHoops
One ringy dingy....
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:43:04pm |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:43:15pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:44:18pm |
re: #104 Charles
Oh brother.
The loons are out tonight.
This guy registered a sock puppet account, laid low for a couple of weeks, then posted a completely whacked out Page.
Bye again, don't come back.
I'm going to use the oven tonight. I've got to save money, so I can't chargrill every troll. But we can still have Roast Troll, and it'll be ready in 40 minutes.
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jaunte Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:45:09pm |
re: #107 Decatur Deb
What is it with the attraction to the dead threads? If any of these guys had an argument they would bring it up to the front, but no.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:45:15pm |
Checking the right-o-sphere for posts about Sweden's election, I notice that Townhall has pages indexed via their own search (and Google's) that have disappeared. I wonder if they had to purge them? Hmmm....
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:47:20pm |
re: #107 Decatur Deb
Was that the ingenue fretting about Sharia on the dead thread?
No, he's still fretting.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:49:29pm |
re: #109 jaunte
What is it with the attraction to the dead threads? If any of these guys had an argument they would bring it up to the front, but no.
It's intended to be a mark of distinction. When Charles bans the troll, the troll registers on the Stalker Blog or Correspondence Committee and posts the comment as a statement of how it "brought the truth to the Progressive Den of Thieves that LFG has become". Then it spews about how Charles is a "tyrant". It's both sad and lame at the same time.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:51:14pm |
hehe. Martin Loofah King
take a bath, be inspired.
I don't think this one makes the cut in the monthly angel investor's review meeting.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:51:16pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
It's intended to be a mark of distinction. When Charles bans the troll, the troll registers on the Stalker Blog or Correspondence Committee and posts the comment as a statement of how it "brought the truth to the Progressive Den of Thieves that LFG has become". Then it spews about how Charles is a "tyrant". It's both sad and lame at the same time.
I draw the line at death threats... not cool.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:53:06pm |
This is pretty low...
Florida Dems send mailer with GOP candidate's Social Security number
The campaign of Republican Allen West is fuming over a negative mailer sent by the Florida Democratic Party revealing West's Social Security number.
West, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, poses a much tougher challenge to Rep. Ron Klein (D-Fla.) this fall after losing to him by a 10-point margin in 2008.
The mailer highlighted an old tax lien against West, but the accompanying documentation included in the mailer failed to black out West's Social Security number and the employer identification number for his wife's business.
The state Democratic Party has called the error "an inadvertent mistake," but West pinned the blame on his Democratic opponent in a statement.
"Ron Klein has clearly crossed a line," West said. "I'm not yet sure the potential damage that might come to my wife and me, and it makes me sick to think of what could happen to my daughters. My entire family is at risk of identity theft."
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:54:22pm |
re: #116 brookly red
I draw the line at death threats... not cool.
And law enforcement should too. A DA should pick all these irresponsible postings up, follow up as forcefully as the constitution will allow, and throw these idiots in jail.
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:54:40pm |
re: #117 NJDhockeyfan
This is pretty low...
Florida Dems send mailer with GOP candidate's Social Security number
Not cool.
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prairiefire Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:54:43pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
Just don't let it sit in its own juices too long.
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:56:00pm |
re: #117 NJDhockeyfan
This is pretty low...
Florida Dems send mailer with GOP candidate's Social Security number
What about the tax lien?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:57:01pm |
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:57:04pm |
One can always count on the Freepers for a view of the dark, tormented side of the American populace.
On an AP story that starts with the sentence "A far-right group's election breakthrough has shattered Sweden's reputation as a bastion of tolerance ..." freepers post:
They are probably Centrists, relatively speaking.
I'd bet.When the MSM says "far right", I have to tell you that Red Flags go up.
3 posted on September 20, 2010 7:51:28 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
---
Muslims looking to destroy another country. They are the scourge of the earth.
4 posted on September 20, 2010 7:55:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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I guess even the Swedes are getting tired of seeing their young women getting raped by Muslims because they are not properly attired.Like most western countries, Sweden was very foolish to have the immigration policy they have had for the past 3 or 4 decades. It's really bad when you have a welfare state like Sweden does. Talk about moral hazards.
I just hope there's enough testosterone left in the country to fix their problems.
5 posted on September 20, 2010 7:56:47 PM PDT by truthguy
---
It's pretty clear that the Sweden Democrats would be right at home on the Free Republic.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:59:09pm |
re: #123 Decatur Deb
And possibly criminal, if intentional.
I has to be. Ron Klein can't face an opponent like a man and has to sent out his SSN? What a sack of shit.
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Gus Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:59:15pm |
re: #124 freetoken
They're pretty happy over at Vdare. No doubt it's also being applauded by Geller and Spencer.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:59:20pm |
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jaunte Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:59:35pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
It's intended to be a mark of distinction. When Charles bans the troll, the troll registers on the Stalker Blog or Correspondence Committee and posts the comment as a statement of how it "brought the truth to the Progressive Den of Thieves that LFG has become". Then it spews about how Charles is a "tyrant". It's both sad and lame at the same time.
The statements always seem to boil down to 'ahahaha, you gave the subject some more thought and then you reconsidered your position, ahahahaha!
Yeah, ok, so?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:59:54pm |
Evening Honcos.
re: #117 NJDhockeyfan
This is pretty low...
Florida Dems send mailer with GOP candidate's Social Security number
Punks ass.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 7:59:54pm |
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PhillyPretzel Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:01:56pm |
Oh well no Orrefors for me. I hear Waterford is much better. Lismore is a very popular pattern.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:02:21pm |
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:02:23pm |
re: #123 Decatur Deb
And possibly criminal, if intentional.
"The state Democratic Party has called the error "an inadvertent mistake," according to the article.
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:02:28pm |
re: #130 cliffster
what about it?
The publishing of the SS # changed the subject.
I think the huge identity theft fear parade is overblown. Ask LifeLock, for 19.95 a month!
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:02:32pm |
re: #131 PhillyPretzel
Oh well no Orrefors for me. I hear Waterford is much better. Lismore is a very popular pattern.
What does this post mean?
///
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:03:40pm |
re: #133 wee fury
"The state Democratic Party has called the error "an inadvertent mistake," according to the article.
Yeah, right. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:03:53pm |
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:04:24pm |
re: #134 Stanley Sea
The publishing of the SS # changed the subject.
I think the huge identity theft fear parade is overblown. Ask LifeLock, for 19.95 a month!
I do recommend LifeLock but hey lets not over look the intent...
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:04:25pm |
re: #137 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, right. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
I have a bigger bridge to sell you, I bet.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:04:34pm |
re: #122 Stanley Sea
What about the tax lien?
Please don't try to deflect like that. You don't like it when others do it. Doesn't matter if Allan West is an asshole (I'm not saying he is, BTW), its still wrong to send out mailers containing his SSN.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:04:46pm |
re: #134 Stanley Sea
The publishing of the SS # changed the subject.
I think the huge identity theft fear parade is overblown. Ask LifeLock, for 19.95 a month!
I had a guy I knew who had his identity stolen (pre lifelock). Took him 2 years to straighten it out.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:05:07pm |
re: #134 Stanley Sea
The publishing of the SS # changed the subject.
I think the huge identity theft fear parade is overblown. Ask LifeLock, for 19.95 a month!
You don't see a problem with mailing out someone's SSN? Take another bong hit, dude.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:05:17pm |
re: #126 Gus 802
What may have some of the pundits and bloggers on the right a bit jittery is that the xenophobes in Sweden (and elsewhere) are being (quite rightly) labeled "far right", which strengthens the idea that "far right"=xenophobe/racist.
The wingnut crowd has no where to go other than: (1) into neo-fascism, or (2) to actually moderate and become sane again.
That fork in the road has been reached by a few and we see the choices they are making.
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PhillyPretzel Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:05:52pm |
Oh well Hawaii Five-O had some great photography and yes that iconic line "book'em Danno." Not too bad.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:05:59pm |
re: #144 NJDhockeyfan
You don't see a problem with mailing out someone's SSN? Take another bong hit, dude.
Dudette.
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palomino Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:07:05pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
I has to be. Ron Klein can't face an opponent like a man and has to sent out his SSN? What a sack of shit.
It was probably inadvertent. What does Klein gain by revealing his opponent's SS number? Nothing but a lot of negative publicity, which severely hurts his chances of winning.
Stupid, but doubtful that it was intentional or done with malice.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:07:11pm |
re: #137 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, right. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
you keep away from my fuckin bridge dude...
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:07:38pm |
Season premier of 'House'. Disappointment -- totally a 'girlie' episode. Bah.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:07:56pm |
re: #146 PhillyPretzel
Oh well Hawaii Five-O had some great photography and yes that iconic line "book'em Danno." Not too bad.
I'm looking forward to the new Hawaii Five-O. The previews look great.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:08:13pm |
re: #134 Stanley Sea
The publishing of the SS # changed the subject.
I think the huge identity theft fear parade is overblown. Ask LifeLock, for 19.95 a month!
Hmm, politics aside, you should not think this way. It's not a joke. Feel free to contact me for a few security tips. I hope you're joking about the "identity theft parade". There are companies that are a bit opportunistic about the whole thing, but it's not something to take lightly.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:08:49pm |
re: #148 palomino
It was probably inadvertent. What does Klein gain by revealing his opponent's SS number? Nothing but a lot of negative publicity, which severely hurts his chances of winning.
Stupid, but doubtful that it was intentional or done with malice.
Some people get petty when they are losing.
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:09:07pm |
re: #144 NJDhockeyfan
You don't see a problem with mailing out someone's SSN? Take another bong hit, dude.
Hahaha! On so many points.
OK, so some criminal person (who follows politics, mind you) is going to snatch that SS# and use it. To probably register an illegal alien no doubt.
I've deal with so much paper, paper paper paper. We cannot shred everything and we certainly didn't in the past. It's overblown.
Of course it's happened to some people. Some people have been mugged too. I think it's an over blown fear. But that's this bonghitter's opinion, so please, disregard it.
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Quant Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:09:32pm |
re: #11 Max D. Reinhardt
I've read the posts at LGF about the Eurofascists, but I'm looking for a good book about the far right in Europe.
I'm really interested in extremist ideologies, I love to study them.
Searchlight Magazine might be worth a visit. I haven't read enough there yet to recommend them, but they do have some interesting articles. They write mainly about right wing extremists in Britain, but they also have articles about Europe.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:10:27pm |
re: #154 Stanley Sea
Hahaha! On so many points.
OK, so some criminal person (who follows politics, mind you) is going to snatch that SS# and use it. To probably register an illegal alien no doubt.
I've deal with so much paper, paper paper paper. We cannot shred everything and we certainly didn't in the past. It's overblown.
Of course it's happened to some people. Some people have been mugged too. I think it's an over blown fear. But that's this bonghitter's opinion, so please, disregard it.
But if a R did it to a D? oh that would be soooo different
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:10:59pm |
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:11:34pm |
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palomino Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:11:41pm |
re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar
Some people get petty when they are losing.
Maybe, but it's quite possible that someone simply forgot to redact that portion of a legal document like a tax lien.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:11:44pm |
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:12:05pm |
re: #158 brookly red
But if a R did it to a D? oh that would be sooo different
Absolutely not. I've held this opinion about id theft for awhile.
What about the point? The tax lien? Dude screwed up by messing up the message with the fear of the SS#!
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sagehen Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:12:11pm |
re: #161 palomino
Maybe, but it's quite possible that someone simply forgot to redact that portion of a legal document like a tax lien.
So, not detail-oriented.
That's something I'd want to know about a prospective hire.
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PhillyPretzel Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:12:40pm |
I got to go to work tomorrow. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:12:43pm |
re: #161 palomino
Maybe, but it's quite possible that someone simply forgot to redact that portion of a legal document like a tax lien.
Then that person should be fired.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:12:54pm |
re: #158 brookly red
But if a R did it to a D? oh that would be sooo different
Quite Concur. But all that proves is that people are more keen to blow the whistle on the other team.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:12:55pm |
re: #154 Stanley Sea
Hahaha! On so many points.
OK, so some criminal person (who follows politics, mind you) is going to snatch that SS# and use it. To probably register an illegal alien no doubt.
I've deal with so much paper, paper paper paper. We cannot shred everything and we certainly didn't in the past. It's overblown.
Of course it's happened to some people. Some people have been mugged too. I think it's an over blown fear. But that's this bonghitter's opinion, so please, disregard it.
I saw what can happen to someone who has their identity stolen. It isn't pretty and causes massive stress to the victims. You are completely wrong. There is a reason it is against the law to steal someone's identity.
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:13:20pm |
In away it's another example of a frame-flip.
Tax lien? No! I'm not the bad guy, he released my info!!
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palomino Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:14:07pm |
re: #164 sagehen
So, not detail-oriented.
That's something I'd want to know about a prospective hire.
Unless he has a really good explanation, Klein should probably lose this election now. But there's no way he could have thought this would help his campaign.
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:14:30pm |
re: #154 Stanley Sea
Hahaha! On so many points.
OK, so some criminal person (who follows politics, mind you) is going to snatch that SS# and use it. To probably register an illegal alien no doubt.
I've deal with so much paper, paper paper paper. We cannot shred everything and we certainly didn't in the past. It's overblown.
Of course it's happened to some people. Some people have been mugged too. I think it's an over blown fear. But that's this bonghitter's opinion, so please, disregard it.
Your opinion. Not factual -- your opinion. Okay. Not worth debating.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:14:44pm |
re: #163 Stanley Sea
Absolutely not. I've held this opinion about id theft for awhile.
What about the point? The tax lien? Dude screwed up by messing up the message with the fear of the SS#!
well it would have sounded better as a first post... whatever.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:15:39pm |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
Then that person should be fired.
Agreed. Mistake or not, revealing an SSN is a firing offense in the cell phone industry and it should such an offense in politics as well.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:18:22pm |
re: #78 sagehen
My grandmother might have been from Poland. "Maybe, sometimes, I'm not sure -- it depends what year your map was from, and I'm not telling you what year I was born..."
The Red Magician, by Lisa Goldstein, starts off in a little town soon to be run over by the Holocaust, which, as the author explains, changes countries from time to time.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:18:27pm |
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:18:42pm |
re: #169 Stanley Sea
In away it's another example of a frame-flip.
Tax lien? No! I'm not the bad guy, he released my info!!
It's really hard to describe how nonsensical the position you're taking is..
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prairiefire Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:18:50pm |
re: #131 PhillyPretzel
Oh well no Orrefors for me. I hear Waterford is much better. Lismore is a very popular pattern.
Go with "Maeve". It is lovely.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:19:10pm |
re: #103 Stanley Sea
Hey Teach! (SFZ) would love to hear stories about your new gig!
We're doing standardized testing at the moment!
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:19:16pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Question: who here shreds EVERYTHING.
I burn it all. My 55 gallon drum is falling apart. I need a new one.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:19:18pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:19:45pm |
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:20:33pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Question: who here shreds EVERYTHING.
I do, and you should too. I guess I'm just paranoid though. "Encrypt my wireless network? Phooey. Getting HIV from unprotected sex.. c'mon - that only happens in after school specials.."
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:20:56pm |
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:21:37pm |
I shred and burn.
It is a mindless endeavor -- but, O -- so satisfying.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:21:49pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Question: who here shreds EVERYTHING.
I don't but I do shred anything with any bank, credit card, or SSN on it. It is either to be retained or destroyed beyond any recovery. It's the smart decision. You should own a shredder, and Officemax has a good selection (I used to work there).
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:21:53pm |
re: #183 cliffster
I do, and you should too. I guess I'm just paranoid though. "Encrypt my wireless network? Phooey. Getting HIV from unprotected sex.. c'mon - that only happens in after school specials.."
ID THEFT = HIV?
beyond
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:22:02pm |
re: #158 brookly red
But if a R did it to a D? oh that would be sooo different
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:23:05pm |
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
true, but that does not make it right now does it?
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:23:24pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
I don't but I do shred anything with any bank, credit card, or SSN on it. It is either to be retained or destroyed beyond any recovery. It's the smart decision. You should own a shredder, and Officemax has a good selection (I used to work there).
I have a shredder and use it. I just brought up the point that ID theft is like being mugged. It happens, it's traumatic, but an industry has been built on something that most likely will not happen to you. And the fear ! !
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:23:47pm |
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
Fox wold play it down. MSLSD, CNN ABC, CBS and NBC would freak.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:23:50pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:23:50pm |
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
I don't know how anyone could play this down. It's very serious IMO.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:24:06pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Question: who here shreds EVERYTHING.
I shred anything that has (or might have) information that someone could use.
Including those credit card offers that come in the mail.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:24:55pm |
re: #194 reine.de.tout
I rip CC offers into quarters.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:24:58pm |
re: #187 Stanley Sea
ID THEFT = HIV?
beyond
No, you're being argumentative.
Ignoring threat of ID Theft is like Ignoring threat of HIV
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:25:02pm |
re: #187 Stanley Sea
ID THEFT = HIV?
beyond
That's not what he meant. He meant that ignoring the the threat of Identity Theft is the same sort of stupid mistake as ignoring the threat of HIV. Not as dangerous, certainly, but its the same kind of mistake.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:25:03pm |
re: #194 reine.de.tout
I shred anything that has (or might have) information that someone could use.
Including those credit card offers that come in the mail.
I shred it all... let them figure it out.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:25:37pm |
NO - SF ball game about to drive me nuts.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:26:22pm |
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:26:29pm |
re: #196 cliffster
No, you're being argumentative.
Ignoring threat of ID Theft is like Ignoring threat of HIV
well actually the odds are better that you get your identity stolen even if you use a condom...
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Gus Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:26:34pm |
Broncos wide receiver Kenny McKinley (on injured reserve) commits suicide. He was 23 years old.
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:26:39pm |
re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fox would play it down. MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC would freak.
Quite Concur.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:26:55pm |
re: #199 reine.de.tout
NO - SF ball game about to drive me nuts.
NO is so much better than SF, it's not even funny. And it's less than a touchdown difference. Well, not for long, after that stupidass muffed punt return.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:27:36pm |
re: #201 brookly red
well actually the odds are better that you get your identity stolen even if you use a condom...
I put on a condom, then put it in the shredder.
////
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:27:59pm |
re: #189 brookly red
true, but that does not make it right now does it?
Maybe not, but does that make what I just said untrue?
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:28:10pm |
re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar
I put on a condom, then put it in the shredder.
///
No wonder you're so messed up!
/
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:28:12pm |
Damn...the 49ers aren't helping themselves tonight...at least they'll be tied with the Vikings and Cowboys after this game.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:28:20pm |
re: #194 reine.de.tout
I shred anything that has (or might have) information that someone could use.
Including those credit card offers that come in the mail.
Let see if Stanley Sea is man enough to prove how safe our social security numbers are from ID thieves by posting his name, address, and SSN.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:28:20pm |
re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar
I put on a condom, then put it in the shredder.
///
just remember to take it off first...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:28:41pm |
re: #202 Gus 802
I saw the story. Didn't read it. Didn't know it was a suicide. That sucks.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:28:52pm |
re: #209 NJDhockeyfan
Let see if Stanley Sea is man enough to prove how safe our social security numbers are from ID thieves by posting his name, address, and SSN.
Stanley is a girl.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:29:08pm |
re: #209 NJDhockeyfan
Let see if Stanley Sea is man enough to prove how safe our social security numbers are from ID thieves by posting his name, address, and SSN.
And his gender?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:29:15pm |
re: #190 Stanley Sea
I have a shredder and use it. I just brought up the point that ID theft is like being mugged. It happens, it's traumatic, but an industry has been built on something that most likely will not happen to you. And the fear ! !
I have personally known one person to have their identity "stolen", and it was my deceased grandmother, because one of her less scrupulous caregivers had enough of her personal info to open card accounts in her name posthumously
Stanley is right in that there's a ton of id theft industry that purposefully scares the Christ out of people, makes people believe that oh shit they're all coming to get you
Sorta like the missing white blond girl of the week that always gets hyped on news: makes parents freak out and think there's a bazillion kidnappings in America EVERYONE PANIC
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Gus Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:29:42pm |
re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar
I saw the story. Didn't read it. Didn't know it was a suicide. That sucks.
Yeah. CNN didn't mention the cause of death but the Denver Post and others did. Terrible. Poor kid.
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Stanghazi Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:30:06pm |
re: #196 cliffster
No, you're being argumentative.
Ignoring threat of ID Theft is like Ignoring threat of HIV
Sorry, I'm kind of pissed at my opinion being reduced to the negative bonghitter label. The weakest arguments always go personal.
Same with being argumentative.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:30:07pm |
Hey, Bristol outscored The Hoff:
Bristol Palin Not So Modest for "Dancing" Debut
Bristol Palin said that she would be the most modestly dressed contestant on the season premiere of "Dancing With the Stars," but she had a surprise for viewers Monday night.The daughter of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin started her routine wearing an outfit that covered most of her body but soon ripped it off to reveal a short, fringed red dress. The judges said she had good hip action and footwork but that she needs to loosen up.
Her famous mother was supposed to be in the audience, but she did not appear to be present. Bristol Palin said that she hoped not to embarrass her mother. She received 18 of 30 points from the judges.
[...]
Comedian Margaret Cho, reality star Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino and actor-singer David Hasselhoff tied for last place with 15 points each.
[...]
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:30:22pm |
re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist
Stanley is a girl.
Girl, guy....whatever. I doubt the identity thieves really will care.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:31:00pm |
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
Maybe not, but does that make what I just said untrue?
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
true, but that does not make it right now does it?
what was the first word in my reply... I believe it was true...
No?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:31:14pm |
re: #209 NJDhockeyfan
Let see if Stanley Sea is man enough to prove how safe our social security numbers are from ID thieves by posting his name, address, and SSN.
haha yeah that's an argument
especially considering Charles would delete the post
especially considering there's freako right-wingers who have been banned here who still think they're fighting vietnam watching all these posts from their fan club treehouse and looking for an easy in to harass commenters
great idea there!
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:31:40pm |
re: #219 brookly red
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
true, but that does not make it right now does it?
what was the first word in my reply... I believe it was true...No?
sorry for the bold... just bad formatting...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:31:50pm |
re: #216 Stanley Sea
Sorry, I'm kind of pissed at my opinion being reduced to the negative bonghitter label. The weakest arguments always go personal.
Same with being argumentative.
Don't you love it when people who don't know what they're talking about tell you your business?
Good stuff
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:33:29pm |
re: #219 brookly red
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it would. Different people would be playing it down.
true, but that does not make it right now does it?
what was the first word in my reply... I believe it was true...No?
Yes. You win a prize or something.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:33:36pm |
re: #222 WindUpBird
Don't you love it when people who don't know what they're talking about tell you your business?
Good stuff
Your boots are ugly. And don't get me started on your boas.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:33:52pm |
re: #214 WindUpBird
Sorta like the missing white blond girl of the week that always gets hyped on news: makes parents freak out and think there's a bazillion kidnappings in America EVERYONE PANIC
er, seriously? you honestly think that parents are silly to be extremely worried about their daughters?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:34:07pm |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
Your boots are ugly. And don't get me started on your boas.
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I couldn't bring boas to burning man, apparently the feathers shed and that's a non no on the playa :(
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:34:29pm |
This is just one item from 2004 --[Link: www.fbi.gov...] It began with a crooked "insider" who had access to a nearly unending supply of personal consumer information.
It ended up the largest case of identity theft ever investigated and prosecuted in the U.S.--with 30,000 victims across the U.S. and Canada and millions of dollars in losses.
It's also a cautionary tale for you--the consumer.
First, the crime. The "insider" was Philip Cummings, a help desk employee with a Long Island, NY, company that provided special software to its client companies--like banks and other financial institutions--allowing them to download consumer credit reports from the three major commercial credit reporting agencies.
Cummings had access to his clients' codes and passwords, which meant he could download virtually all the consumer credit reports he wanted. And he did, after being approached by a ring of Nigerian nationals who offered to pay for copies. Even after leaving the company, Cummings continued using his inside knowledge to download and sell credit reports to this identity theft ring for another two years.
The damage. Considerable. Thousands of personal savings accounts were looted. Fake charges were racked up on credit cards. Addresses on bank accounts were changed so that new credit, check, and ATM cards were mailed directly to the thieves.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:35:02pm |
re: #209 NJDhockeyfan
Let see if Stanley Sea is man enough to prove how safe our social security numbers are from ID thieves by posting his name, address, and SSN.
Her.
Stanley is a she.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:38:04pm |
DoJ Charges 53 In NJ In Identity-Theft, Fraud Takedown
The Department of Justice on Thursday charged 53 individuals in New Jersey for allegedly selling identity documents that were used to commit various acts of fraud, including opening lines of credit.
In addition to the 43 individuals charged in a single conspiracy, six other criminal complaints charge 10 additional individuals with identity theft and fraud offenses. The Justice Department said 47 defendants were arrested Thursday morning, while one is in state custody on unrelated charges and five remain at large.
"The activity in this instance was a virtual crime superstore, with one-stop shopping for a variety of criminal needs," according to FBI agent Michael B. Ward. "The criminal activity was sophisticated, and the extent of the fraud committed by this group is believed to be substantial, if not staggering."
... The group also allegedly built up credit scores associated with the IDs. By attaching the IDs to the credit-card accounts of various co-conspirators, the team was able to increase the credit scores associated with the Chinese IDs to between 700 and 800. The highest score possible is 850.
They then allegedly conspired to use the fraudulent IDs with good credit scores to open and obtain bank accounts, credit cards, lines of credit and loans--including loans guaranteed by the U.S. Small Business Administration.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:38:32pm |
re: #225 cliffster
er, seriously? you honestly think that parents are silly to be extremely worried about their daughters?
I'm just going to link to this, which explains my position more succinctly and relieves me of the burden of having to restate a very obvious point to you:
MORAL PANIC: what you need to know about the stuff they're telling you to be a-scared of
Do you think it's rational for parents to drive their kids to school in safe neighborhoods where they live less than two miles away from the school? fear sells in the media, you can see right through it if you're aware that that is what they're doing
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:38:39pm |
I would hate to have to explain what Cialis is. They run these fucking commercials through out football games.
/get it? "Fucking Commercials'!!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:38:58pm |
re: #229 brookly red
awww
Would you like to pick something out of the Shiny Pencil Drawer? (God, sixth graders are weird. Steep learning curve for teacher lady here.)
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:39:18pm |
re: #217 freetoken
Hey, Bristol outscored The Hoff:
Let's hope we get a sound-byte of Sarah saying Bristol "blew the judges...away"
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:39:31pm |
Identity fraud costs billions a year, conference told
A national crime symposium focusing on identity theft gets underway in Brisbane today.Fraud experts say one in five Australians have fallen victim to identity theft and it is costing Australia around $3 billion a year.
It is one of the fastest growing criminal industries and local and international fraud experts will spend the next three days in Brisbane sharing ideas on how to stop it.
The conference will investigate the sharp rise of internet hacking, romance and email scams, credit card skimming.
Professor Jonathan Rusch from the United States Department of Justice is expected to present international statistics showing identity theft is becoming the fastest growing segment of criminal activity in the world.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:39:34pm |
re: #217 freetoken
Hey, Bristol outscored The Hoff:
Cool. Let's see if she survives the cut. It'll be interesting to see how this playings out with the wingnuts.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:39:41pm |
re: #225 cliffster
er, seriously? you honestly think that parents are silly to be extremely worried about their daughters?
I worry about mine.
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:39:44pm |
re: #228 reine.de.tout
Her.
Stanley is a she.
ya know every time this comes up I get the song "Boy Named Sue" stuck in my mind for days...
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:40:05pm |
re: #231 WindUpBird
Lesbian gangs - promoted by Bill O'Reilly, who later admitted the reports were "overstated."
Lol...
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:40:31pm |
re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist
Would you like to pick something out of the Shiny Pencil Drawer? (God, sixth graders are weird. Steep learning curve for teacher lady here.)
did you say shiny?
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:40:55pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:41:27pm |
What a fucking game. SF just might tie it at the end of regulation.
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:41:34pm |
re: #231 WindUpBird
I'm just going to link to this, which explains my position more succinctly and relieves me of the burden of having to restate a very obvious point to you:
MORAL PANIC: what you need to know about the stuff they're telling you to be a-scared of
Do you think it's rational for parents to drive their kids to school in safe neighborhoods where they live less than two miles away from the school? fear sells in the media, you can see right through it if you're aware that that is what they're doing
I don't consider that a credible source.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:41:35pm |
re: #236 Dark_Falcon
Cool. Let's see if she survives the cut. It'll be interesting to see how this playings out with the wingnuts.
They'll love her. She could "freak dance" (where the girl rubs her ass against the guy's pelvis in a mock fucking move) and they'd see it as simple good family fun.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:41:42pm |
re: #236 Dark_Falcon
Cool. Let's see if she survives the cut. It'll be interesting to see how this playings out with the wingnuts.
Are they going to be able to deal with it if she gets voted off, or will that just be more proof that everyone hates the Palins, and no one will give them a fair shake?
(Heck, maybe she'll win, and become a full-time reality star.)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:41:58pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:42:11pm |
re: #231 WindUpBird
I'm just going to link to this, which explains my position more succinctly and relieves me of the burden of having to restate a very obvious point to you:
MORAL PANIC: what you need to know about the stuff they're telling you to be a-scared of
Do you think it's rational for parents to drive their kids to school in safe neighborhoods where they live less than two miles away from the school? fear sells in the media, you can see right through it if you're aware that that is what they're doing
ID Theft is one of those things where its better to be over-prepared than under-prepared. Over-preparation only costs some modest amounts of money and a small amount of time. Under-preparation costs far more in both.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:42:12pm |
day-yum.
this game needs to be OVER WITH.
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bratwurst Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:42:21pm |
re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist
Are they going to be able to deal with it if she gets voted off, or will that just be more proof that everyone hates the Palins, and no one will give them a fair shake?
(Heck, maybe she'll win, and become a full-time reality star.)
Watch her quit halfway through.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:42:57pm |
re: #244 darthstar
They'll love her. She could "freak dance" (where the girl rubs her ass against the guy's pelvis in a mock fucking move) and they'd see it as simple good family fun.
Aaaaah! Don't say 'freak dance'!!!
(Too many rounds as the chaperone at Catholic high-school dances.)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:43:02pm |
re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist
Are they going to be able to deal with it if she gets voted off, or will that just be more proof that everyone hates the Palins, and no one will give them a fair shake?
(Heck, maybe she'll win, and become a full-time reality star.)
A fair shake? What the hell is that suppose to mean?111???
///
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brookly red Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:43:14pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:43:31pm |
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darthstar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:44:12pm |
re: #248 reine.de.tout
day-yum.
this game needs to be OVER WITH.
Agreed. I hate the niners...whew...they missed the two point conversion.
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:44:31pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:44:36pm |
re: #246 Cannadian Club Akbar
FTFY
You've already got one. One of my Star Destroyers delivered a wing of new Scimitar Assault Bombers to it today.
/Stay on Target!
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wee fury Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:44:45pm |
1:19 remaining. The game could be over in 2 hours.
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webevintage Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:45:10pm |
re: #217 freetoken
Hey, Bristol outscored The Hoff:
She looks so uncomfortable...I really hope she is doing this because she wants to.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:46:18pm |
re: #259 webevintage
She looks so uncomfortable...I really hope she is doing this because she wants to.
I bet Levi is shopping for brass poles as we speak.
/
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:46:36pm |
re: #231 WindUpBird
I'm just going to link to this, which explains my position more succinctly and relieves me of the burden of having to restate a very obvious point to you:
MORAL PANIC: what you need to know about the stuff they're telling you to be a-scared of
Do you think it's rational for parents to drive their kids to school in safe neighborhoods where they live less than two miles away from the school? fear sells in the media, you can see right through it if you're aware that that is what they're doing
Umm, ok. I honestly hope that no one with kids takes this at all seriously.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:47:28pm |
If that ball was on the plane it should be good.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:48:16pm |
Heh. NO has the wind at their back I think.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:48:21pm |
re: #262 Cannadian Club Akbar
If that ball was on the plane it should be good.
I hate to say it, but that conversion was good, no matter what they say.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:48:28pm |
Tie score. NO have 1:19 to score for a win.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:48:40pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:49:02pm |
re: #259 webevintage
She looks so uncomfortable...I really hope she is doing this because she wants to.
I wonder if she knows what she wants anymore. This is such a weird situation for a young woman to be in. John McCain's girls aren't on "Dancing With The Stars", and there's a reason for that. Chelsea Clinton's not on it. The Gore girls aren't. The Bush twins aren't.
So she goes on the stupid show, but then says that she'll have REAL modest costumes, because that's just who she is...and then, lo and behold, that changes...poor kid. She needs to go to college and get out of her mother's curdling limelight for a while.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:49:06pm |
re: #234 darthstar
Let's hope we get a sound-byte of Sarah saying Bristol "blew the judges...away"
Speaking of The Sarah, here is what she tweeted just a bit ago:
SWEET diversion from politics! Dancing W'The Stars party in r livingroom tonight w/friends who r lovin' this change of pace 4 Sweet Bristol!
Of course 2 hours earlier she was hard at it:
Hear Rush re: double standard applied to O'Donnell. So obvious it's unnecessary 2 add 2 discussion; as usual his spot-on comments explain it
A "double standard" wrt O'Donnell? Simply evaluating O'Donnell on any reasonable "standard" for being a Senator would show O'Donnell wanting.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:49:22pm |
re: #260 Cannadian Club Akbar
I bet Levi is shopping for brass poles as we speak.
/
I really hope Levi is out of the picture for good, as much as he can be.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:49:44pm |
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blueraven Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:50:07pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
I has to be. Ron Klein can't face an opponent like a man and has to sent out his SSN? What a sack of shit.
The response from the FDP is that it was inadvertent. I tend to believe that, because it would be a very dumb move if deliberate. Plus it would serve no purpose whatsoever.
They apologized and said they will pay for identity theft monitoring for two years. Although I bet they will have to pay for longer than that!
It was very stupid, but I doubt intentional.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:50:17pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:50:57pm |
They need 13 more yards. More if you can get it.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:51:47pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:52:38pm |
Run down the clock. Kick the FG. Look for a running play.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:53:54pm |
re: #279 Cannadian Club Akbar
Run down the clock. Kick the FG. Look for a running play.
Yep. That's the plan.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:54:06pm |
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Kronocide Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:54:46pm |
re: #270 freetoken
A "double standard" wrt O'Donnell? Simply evaluating O'Donnell on any reasonable "standard" for being a Senator would show O'Donnell wanting.
You're probably right but it's sometimes hard to understand Palin's Twitterisms. If you're right, O'Donnell is going to have a lot more problems than double standards. I can't wait for the Katie Couric interview.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:54:57pm |
false start. wow, these guys get paid a million dollars?
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Political Atheist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:54:58pm |
OT
Wow. Uploading HD sure takes time. Six hours for 800 meg? Four minutes of content. Geez.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:55:43pm |
Didn't someone hit that ball and it still went through?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:56:30pm |
re: #290 NJDhockeyfan
Didn't someone hit that ball and it still went through?
I thought it hit the guys wrist.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:56:37pm |
no, he just kicked the fuck out of the ball. That's what a ball looks like when that happens.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:56:58pm |
Great thriller game. I wish all MNF games are this good.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:58:51pm |
Packers/Bears next week? OMG, OMG, OMG!!!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:58:56pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:59:16pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 8:59:28pm |
And in other news, Tim Blair decides to hate on Charles some and mix in a few lies:
THE EVOLUTION OF CHARLES
The Aussie DT really needs to cut this rage boy loose. His turd posts stink up the whole site.
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:00:52pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:00:58pm |
re: #297 Cannadian Club Akbar
Packers/Bears next week? OMG, OMG, OMG!!!
The Bears are gonna kick Green Bay's ass. Go Bears!
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cliffster Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:01:48pm |
I reckon I'll go to bed now. Night.. peace and purpose to everyone.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:02:33pm |
Sorry the troll is a bit late, but I had to baste it in clue sauce. Roast Troll is now being served.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:02:47pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Question: who here shreds EVERYTHING.
I'm relatively safe on this score, nobody steals the identity of the damned and all my trash is cursed by default.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:03:35pm |
re: #305 Dark_Falcon
Sorry the troll is a bit late, but I had to baste it in clue sauce. Roast Troll is now being served.
Who this time? I musta been at work.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:04:41pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:05:10pm |
All women on TV dramas should have to run at some point with no bra on.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:07:12pm |
re: #309 Cannadian Club Akbar
All women on TV dramas should have to run at some point with no bra on.
Baywatch fan?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:07:52pm |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
We had someone this morning that registered for about 10 minutes and dropped a turd.
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:07:57pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:08:27pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:08:49pm |
re: #311 Cannadian Club Akbar
We had someone this morning that registered for about 10 minutes and dropped a turd.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:09:35pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:11:26pm |
Jimmy Carter: My role is 'superior' to those of the other ex-presidents
During an interview set to air tonight on NBC, former President Jimmy Carter tells Brian Williams that he feels his role as an an activist in troubled parts of the world is "superior" to those of other former presidents. Carter was responding to a question about the now-famous photo of President Obama with the four living ex-presidents -- Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush and Carter -- in which Carter appeared alone and off to the side while the others seemed to converse collegially.
LOL...now that's funny Jimmy.
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Political Atheist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:11:56pm |
re: #316 NJDhockeyfan
Jimmy Carter: My role is 'superior' to those of the other ex-presidents
LOL...now that's funny Jimmy.
Tragicomedy.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:15:10pm |
re: #316 NJDhockeyfan
Jimmy Carter: My role is 'superior' to those of the other ex-presidents
LOL...now that's funny Jimmy.
Pathetic. Yet another EPIC FAIL from the all-time leader.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:16:01pm |
re: #316 NJDhockeyfan
During an interview that aired tonight on "NBC Nightly News," former president Jimmy Carter told anchor Brian Williams that he feels his role as an an activist in troubled parts of the world is "superior" to those of other former presidents
Notice he doesn't compare his Presidency against those he mentioned.
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Kronocide Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:19:45pm |
Carter's comments validate my mom's assertion that Carter was the best president ever. He rationale was that he built homes for the homeless. I pointed out to her that he did that after he was president but she said that proves he was a good man, therefore the best president.
I gave up almost 10 years ago.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:20:07pm |
Hre: #309 Cannadian Club Akbar
All women on TV dramas should have to run at some point with no bra on.
Apparently that is among the latest in fashion statements (WARNING: NSFCO*).
*Not Safe For Christine O'Donnell1
1like that'll stop you lechers
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:20:55pm |
re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar
During an interview that aired tonight on "NBC Nightly News," former president Jimmy Carter told anchor Brian Williams that he feels his role as an an activist in troubled parts of the world is "superior" to those of other former presidents
Notice he doesn't compare his Presidency against those he mentioned.
What could he say in that regard? He was the worst president since Herbert Hoover, and one of two in the 20th Century whom everyone can agree was a failure.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:21:00pm |
Jimmy Carter's friends post a foul disgusting video on YouTube...
Schalit family attacks Hamas posting of new Youtube clip
Hamas posted a video of kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Schalit on Youtube on Monday, suggesting he would be killed if a deal was not soon reached.
In the animated video, two masked men are shown standing on either side of Gilad Schalit in a dark room, with one of them holding an AK-47 assualt rifle.
At the end of the 24-second video, gun shots are heard as the movie goes black and the words "Is the mission completed?" are seen written in Arabic.
In response the video, the Schalit family released a statement saying that, "The Schalit family is troubled that instead of worrying about the hundreds of Palestinian prisoners jailed in Israel, some of which could have been at home long ago, Hamas leaders have chosen to continue holding Gilad, our son, captive as a hostage for their political aspirations, an act which is an ongoing war crime according to international law." The statement continued, "In addition, Hamas leaders in Gaza and Damascus are not hesitant to add, and even take a new approach, to the psychological warfare of the lowest level against the Schalit family, instead of respecting international law and conventions."
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Surabaya Stew Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:21:41pm |
re: #316 NJDhockeyfan
Jimmy Carter: My role is 'superior' to those of the other ex-presidents
LOL...now that's funny Jimmy.
What is wrong with this man? I'm not against most of what he's done with his life, but he comes across like Castro did talking to Jeffery Goldberg last week; trying to paint a prettier picture of himself! Not wise at all, IMHO.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:22:47pm |
re: #321 freetoken
WTF is on those women's heads in pic 5 and 6? Fashion. Heh.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:23:25pm |
re: #325 Cannadian Club Akbar
WTF is on those women's heads in pic 5 and 6? Fashion. Heh.
I guess I didn't notice...
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:25:08pm |
re: #324 Surabaya Stew
What is wrong with this man? I'm not against most of what he's done with his life, but he comes across like Castro did talking to Jeffery Goldberg last week; trying to paint a prettier picture of himself! Not wise at all, IMHO.
He's a legend in his own mind. I think he should go back to Plains, Ga and build bird houses (and leave the neighbor's cats alone).
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lostlakehiker Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:25:46pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
I checked and Nordland was the Scandinavian SS division. The Dutch division was Nederland and the French one Charlemange.
I have major interest in WWII history so accuracy is important to me.
There was also an SS Wallonia division, which from its name must have hailed from the French-speaking part of Belgium.
SS Charlemagne was one of the key formations defending Berlin at the end of the war. Talk about damned. They can't surrender. The Russians will kill them if they do, and if the Russians don't, they'll be in the dock for treason in their home countries. So they get a foretaste of hell in the Stalingrad-like rubble of Berlin. Shells fall everywhere, in an iron rain. The Russians stream everywhere, dying in droves because the rain falls on the Reds and the SS alike. But no matter, as always, Russian numbers are inexhaustible. Sooner or later, some tommy-gunner shoots a round with your number on it, and you're dispatched from the foretaste direct to the real thing.
And on top of all that, nobody's sorry for you. SS is bad enough. SS traitors is worse. SS traitors fighting on when the war is over, it just doesn't get any more inexcusable.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:28:47pm |
re: #321 freetoken
H
Apparently that is among the latest in fashion statements (WARNING: NSFCO*).
*Not Safe For Christine O'Donnell1
1like that'll stop you lechers
Finally, a fashion show for straight men!
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Varek Raith Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:31:13pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:32:20pm |
Report: Hamas Selling Humanitarian Aid for Profit
A journalist who visited Gaza found that Hamas is confiscating humanitarian goods donated by the international community and forcing Gaza Arabs to pay for them. The journalist, Mitchell Prothero, wrote an article about attitudes towards Hamas for the UAE paper The National.
Prothero spoke to a commander in the Islamic Jihad terrorist group, who complained about being forced to purchase medicine for his son when the medicine, donated by Norway, was clearly labeled “Not for resale.”
“I had to go to a Hamas pharmacy to make sure the pills weren't fake or made from poor materials in Egypt,” he explained. “If you want real medicine, you have to buy the aid Europe sends us.”
A Gaza businessman said, “If you're not in Hamas, you get nothing.”
This should be brought up at the UN meetings this week.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:34:18pm |
re: #331 NJDhockeyfan
Report: Hamas Selling Humanitarian Aid for Profit
This should be brought up at the UN meetings this week.
I am sure the UN will be all over this. Not.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:35:02pm |
re: #328 lostlakehiker
There was also an SS Wallonia division, which from its name must have hailed from the French-speaking part of Belgium.
SS Charlemagne was one of the key formations defending Berlin at the end of the war. Talk about damned. They can't surrender. The Russians will kill them if they do, and if the Russians don't, they'll be in the dock for treason in their home countries. So they get a foretaste of hell in the Stalingrad-like rubble of Berlin. Shells fall everywhere, in an iron rain. The Russians stream everywhere, dying in droves because the rain falls on the Reds and the SS alike. But no matter, as always, Russian numbers are inexhaustible. Sooner or later, some tommy-gunner shoots a round with your number on it, and you're dispatched from the foretaste direct to the real thing.
And on top of all that, nobody's sorry for you. SS is bad enough. SS traitors is worse. SS traitors fighting on when the war is over, it just doesn't get any more inexcusable.
Vivid, and very true. Favorited.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:35:57pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:37:09pm |
re: #334 SanFranciscoZionist
They've known for years.
And they blame Israel. Nothing at the UN ever changes.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:39:40pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:42:48pm |
re: #335 NJDhockeyfan
And they blame Israel. Nothing at the UN ever changes.
UNRWA is rotten to the core.
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Kronocide Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:42:51pm |
re: #336 freetoken
Fabulous image:
Wow, great pics, immense power.
I'm askerd of hurricanes and expect I'll have to deal one as surface temps rise. Earthquakes don't scare me a bit.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:43:45pm |
re: #336 freetoken
Before Katrina hit (when it was a 5), was one of the prettiest hurricanes I have ever seen.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:52:21pm |
Terrorist arrested in Chicago...
Lebanese immigrant charged in Wrigleyville bomb plot
Sami Samir Hassoun carried what he thought was a bomb — fashioned from a paint can and hidden inside a shopping bag — on a street near Wrigley Field more crowded than usual Saturday night after a festive concert by the Dave Matthews Band, authorities say.
Moments before, the Lebanese immigrant had allegedly instructed his cohort to dial down the timer to detonate in 20 minutes, saying half an hour was too long.
Hassoun dropped the device in a trash can just feet from one of the neighborhood's popular bars, turned and headed back toward the vehicle when a swarm of FBI agents and Chicago police arrested him.
In the months before, authorities charged, Hassoun had plans ranging from the grandiose to the more simple, but his goal was chilling: inject terror into the hearts of Chicagoans and undermine city government with repeated attacks.
He talked of tainting the water supply, assassinating Mayor Richard Daley and attacking the city's hot spots downtown and on the North Side, according to a federal complaint filed Monday. And to rattle the city's nerves, he'd explode or ignite car bombs over and over, authorities said.
"You park the car and let it boom," the 22-year-old is alleged to have said to an informant.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:54:08pm |
All righty. Haven't had a bunch of sleep lately, but I'm feeling it now. Not gonna let this slip by. See ya'll in the morning.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:54:43pm |
re: #341 Cannadian Club Akbar
All righty. Haven't had a bunch of sleep lately, but I'm feeling it now. Not gonna let this slip by. See ya'll in the morning.
I think I'll do the same. Sweet dreams lizards!
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freetoken Mon, Sep 20, 2010 9:55:31pm |
re: #340 NJDhockeyfan
Continuing the quote:
Authorities said Hassoun wasn't motivated by religious or political views but rather by a bizarre desire to undermine the mayor's political support and allow an associate to take control of the city. He also hoped to profit from the scheme by being paid for his terrorism work by supporters, the charges alleged.
Chicago politics! Capone would be proud.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 20, 2010 10:01:03pm |
re: #343 freetoken
Continuing the quote:
Chicago politics! Capone would be proud.
1924 election refrain: "Who'll carry the 42nd and 43rd Wards? O'Banion, in his pistol pockets!"
Goodnight, all.
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lostlakehiker Mon, Sep 20, 2010 10:01:52pm |
re: #338 BigPapa
Wow, great pics, immense power.
I'm askerd of hurricanes and expect I'll have to deal one as surface temps rise. Earthquakes don't scare me a bit.
It's not surface temperatures that drive hurricanes, it's temperature differentials. Jupiter has storms, though it's frigid.
Here on earth, as AGW continues apace, the heating is more intense in the Arctic than anywhere else. This might lead to reduced temperature differentials and fewer or less intense hurricanes. AGW is real and we're in for all sorts of trouble as a consequence, but the jury isn't in on how things will go with hurricanes.
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ClaudeMonet Tue, Sep 21, 2010 12:19:15am |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
Then that person should be fired.
If political campaigns are run like the last big corporation for which I worked, the f***-up will be rewarded with a promotion and bonus.
In this case, some volunteer will be canned, ignoring all the people who are supposed to vet all campaign materials.
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ClaudeMonet Tue, Sep 21, 2010 12:28:23am |
re: #305 Dark_Falcon
Sorry the troll is a bit late, but I had to baste it in clue sauce. Roast Troll is now being served.
If I get some of the leftovers, I need to know whether to eat them cold in the morning, or should they be nuked a little?
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garhighway Tue, Sep 21, 2010 5:43:06am |
re: #141 Dark_Falcon
Please don't try to deflect like that. You don't like it when others do it. Doesn't matter if Allan West is an asshole (I'm not saying he is, BTW), its still wrong to send out mailers containing his SSN.
Of course it is.
But what is the upside in doing it intentionally? What does it get his campaign?
Be smart: it was a mistake.
This isn't like SC push polls where the "mistake" leads to an obvious political benefit. It's a screw up, unless you can demonstrate the good that comes to West's campaign for doing this.
So if you want to crap on the guy's campaign for being careless and sloppy, that's fair. But this "what a low blow" nonsense is cheap posturing.
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Truth Dr. Tue, Sep 21, 2010 8:00:43pm |
The hatred merry-go-round:
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