Live Video: Rally to Restore Sanity And/or Fear

Here’s the live video feed for the Stewart-Colbert Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear. An estimate from an unnamed Parks Service employee puts attendance at “well over 200,000,” according to the New York Times’s Brian Stelter.

Publicly, Parks Service doesn’t estimate crowds. Privately, it has told Viacom there are “well over 200,000” people at the rally, exec says.

UPDATE at 10/30/10 12:03:35 pm:

Rally’s over, so the video is now removed.

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318 comments

1 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:11:24am

Do we have a credible crowd number? SFGate had 60k a little while ago.

2 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:14:45am

Got it on my CSPAN

3 RadicalModerate  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:16:06am

re: #1 BigPapa

Do we have a credible crowd number? SFGate had 60k a little while ago.

That number seems a bit low since the HuffPo bused in over 10k (200 buses) alone.

4 KenJen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:17:24am

Charles, Where are you getting your several hundred thousand people number?

5 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:18:21am

re: #1 BigPapa

Do we have a credible crowd number? SFGate had 60k a little while ago.

Don't believe any crowd number estimates less than 24 hours old.

6 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:22:20am

re: #4 KenJen

Charles, Where are you getting your several hundred thousand people number?

Several journalists on Twitter have estimated there are more than 200,000 people there.

7 blueraven  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:22:26am

Watching on Comedy Central. Not a bad way to start off the day with John Legend!

8 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:23:25am

Finally got the embedded video to work above.

9 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:24:01am

re: #4 KenJen

Charles, Where are you getting your several hundred thousand people number?

Good on you for asking. You get my utterly inconsequential Skeptic's Seal of Approval.

Note: This does not imply a contrary argument, but merely insistence of evidence.

10 recusancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:24:02am

re: #1 BigPapa

That's about 1.3 million in Beckian metrics.

11 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:24:25am

Colbert tweet:

Let me know if you see an empty porta-potty.
12 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:25:41am

Not that we should get too worked up about numbers... But I hope it dwarfs Beck's silly rally.

13 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:25:54am

It's kinda nice to see signs like this,,,,
Image: 610x.jpg

14 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:05am

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Correct spelling elitism!

15 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:27:12am
16 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:28:42am

Look for jamesfirecat with his LGF sign in the crowd.

17 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:29:12am

I know some people who flew out and will be carrying "Fear the Beard" signs...and wearing fake beards.

Go Giants!

18 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:29:20am

re: #14 jaunte

Correct spelling elitism!


They've obviously been indoctrinated by leftist higher education

19 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:29:22am

I just saw a funk band with a guy playing a tuba. Now they're doing an awesome song that reminds me of Nina Simone.

20 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:32:39am

My favorite sign so far...
Tea Parties are for little girls and their imaginary friends

21 deranged cat  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:32:51am

about 30 people showed up to my loocal neetup.. [Link: twitpic.com...] sorry on phone awful keyboard

22 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:25am

Name of this band, please? They are surprisingly non-terrible.

23 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:33:47am

From what I have seen so far, this is what we need more of in America..Political Sanity..
If I was there I'd light up a cigar, look around and say..Now these are my kind of people..
/Blatant rip off line from Tin cup.

24 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:34:51am

re: #22 negativ

Name of this band, please? They are surprisingly non-terrible.

The Roots and John Legend

25 subsailor68  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:06am

IIRC, the band is John Legend and Roots. You can see 'em every night if you watch Jimmy Fallon's late night show. (Even the tuba player!)

26 Dom  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:20am

That awesomely respectful Bill Withers cover and the guitar solo, it would have been worth going just for that. :D

27 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:35:30am

re: #11 jaunte

Colbert tweet:

what's colbert's tweet name?

28 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:36:23am

re: #27 sagehen

It's 'StephenAtHome'

29 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:39:17am

oh noes!

moveonup.org...........

30 insert name here  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:39:17am

Love the tuba! He rocks!

31 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:40:24am

re: #28 jaunte

It's 'StephenAtHome'

thanx

32 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:41:06am

hurrah - the mythbusters!!!!!!!!

33 RadicalModerate  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:41:25am

And now, something you would never see at a Tea Party Rally - SCIENCE!

34 kirkspencer  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:28am

re: #30 insert name here

Love the tuba! He rocks!

So how many people besides me wince and mutter "sousaphone" every time we see tuba here? I mean, I know I'm pedantic, but am I uniquely pedantic? (And yeah, he rocks.)

35 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:33am

That seems to be a shit-load of people.

36 recusancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:44am

"Birthers for Hawaii state hood!" lol

37 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:47am

Woot! Great music, saw a sign mentioning George Carlin, and now the Mythbusters. Damn, the wave. That's a big crowd.

38 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:49am

The crowd is huge.

39 KenJen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:42:49am

Wow! Looks like there is 500,000 people there.

40 diamonda2u  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:26am

That is a LOT of ppl

41 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:53am

Mythbusters estimates 150,000.

42 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:43:54am

150,000?

maybe more will come later.

43 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:44:20am

150k? Gotta be more than that

44 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:46:04am

re: #34 kirkspencer

So how many people besides me wince and mutter "sousaphone" every time we see tuba here? I mean, I know I'm pedantic, but am I uniquely pedantic? (And yeah, he rocks.)

Yes, you are uniquely pedantic. ALTHOUGH, if you want to have a pedantic music theory fight, I'm up for it. I dual-wield Stravinsky and Zappa in ways that non-insane, non-fanatics can't comprehend.

45 diamonda2u  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:46:09am

Could you imagine them explaining the "wave" science at a tea party rally...LOL

46 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:47:01am

heh wave physics, this is awesome

47 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:48:50am

This is really setting a nice tone for the day.

48 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:48:54am

and tonnes of people out to the sides as well.........

49 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:50:46am

Ah now it feels like a Beck rally! (crying..)

50 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:51:46am

The lesson being HUGE CROWDS CAN BE VOLUNTARILY CONTROLLED.

51 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:52:35am

MUAH_HAHAHAHA

52 cenotaphium  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:53:03am

They're going to start an earthquake! :O

Also, this looks like a hell of a good time.

53 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:54:38am

Guinness World Record crowd hop?

54 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:56:16am

This is nowhere near as impressive as the seismological / physics demonstrations of the Beck rally.

55 KenJen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:57:20am

Props to those who put this together! Looks like great fun! Well done so far.

56 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:57:27am

Bwhaha "What up what up!". Best start to a political rally ever.

57 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:18am

re: #52 cenotaphium

They're going to start an earthquake! :O

Also, this looks like a hell of a good time.

Are you kidding? 150,000 liberals hanging out, hell ya.

58 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:44am

re: #57 prairiefire

Are you kidding? 150,000 liberals hanging out, hell ya.

Get a job ya yippies!

59 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:58:50am

$5 says they get a flyover...

60 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:19am

Doesn't anyone else feel weird posting during the national anthem? Feels like I'm talking through it...

61 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:37am

Beautiful, wow!!!

62 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:59:37am

Ugh, I hate Soulful 90s-flavored renditions of Star Spangled Banner

63 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:00:12am

re: #53 jaunte

Guinness World Record crowd hop?

Naw.
This was it.

The Earthquake Game is the name given to a famous college football game played in front of a crowd of 79,431 at Louisiana State University's Tiger Stadium on October 8, 1988.
The game pitted Southeastern Conference rival Auburn Tigers against LSU and was one of the more notable games in the Auburn LSU rivalry. Along with national rankings, at stake was the eventual SEC title. The stadium was filled to capacity and the game was being broadcast on ESPN.
Auburn led the game 6-0 with less than two minutes remaining in the 4th quarter. LSU's quarterback Tommy Hodson drove the team down the field before finally throwing a last chance 4th down touchdown pass to Eddie Fuller. The reaction of the crowd was detected by a seismograph located in LSU’s Howe-Russell Geoscience Complex around 1,000 feet (305 m) from the stadium.
64 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:00:35am

CLEVELAND, ARE YOU READY TO RAWK?

65 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:01:10am

re: #57 prairiefire

Are you kidding? 150,000 liberals hanging out, hell ya.

Argh, there may be one or two sane conservatives there.

66 cenotaphium  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:02:11am

OMG, did you see the size of that teleprompter?

67 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:02:36am

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Argh, there may be one or two sane conservatives there.

Bonjour!

68 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:02:51am
69 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:04:45am

re: #67 McSpiff

Bonjour!

Bonjour, yourself!
Good to see you
Shame i'm about to leave *sniff*
But I'll BBL.

70 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:06:32am

re: #41 Charles

Are Jamie and Adam counting Buster among the number? :)

71 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:07:13am

do they respond to obvious pandering

72 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:07:40am

Hey lucky the bunker stood up to the crowd induced earthquake!

73 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:08:07am

It's the Chilean mine rescue!

74 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:08:35am

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Argh, there may be one or two sane conservatives there.

Yes, of course. I'm very happy to see them.

75 RadicalModerate  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:08:43am

Colbert went to the "Evel Knevil Surplus Store" I see

76 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:10:00am

how very odd.

the MSNBC live feed


is about 10 seconds ahead of the Comedy Central cable feed, which is about 10 seconds ahead of the Comedy Central on-line feed.
77 cenotaphium  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:10:28am
78 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:10:44am

Fox News tomorrow: Stewart/Colbert rally plays to booing crowd of dejected dozens.

79 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:13:42am

At first I was like "O_o" and then i was like :D

80 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:14:04am

Fox News: Stewart, Colbert Throw 'Non-Political' Rally in Washington Ahead of Midterms

Comedy Central's park permit puts the crowd estimate at 60,000.
,,,,,
Organizing for America, Obama's political operation based at Democratic National Committee headquarters, was setting up a "Phone Bank for Sanity" after the rally to urge people to vote on Tuesday.

Groups planning to enlist supporters at the event include Naral Pro-Choice America; D.C. Vote, which aims to give D.C. a voting representative in the House; and backers of California's Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana.

81 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:14:47am

I hate to imagine how many people are too young to know about Father Guido Sarducci. =(

82 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:04am

wish I was there..... one of the few times living in SoCal can be a negative. It would have been nice to take a short drive to the rally instead of long plane flight.

83 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:30am

'Restore Sanity' goes global:

Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity" in Washington has sparked more than 1,160 mini-rallies in 84 countries, morphing into something of a global political happening.
[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]
84 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:16:36am

re: #80 Killgore Trout

LOL sad kooks.....

85 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:19:07am

Crazy Pam is extra confused this morning.....
Obama OK's Yemen's Child Soldiers and has Doubled Aid to the Jihadi Terror Source

One of the originating sources of yesterday's Islamic attack/massive dry run is Yemen. Obama has sanctioned child soldiers in Yemen, doubled aid to Yemen and released key leaders of AQAP from GITMO, now waging war from Yemen.

While Obama spends countless hours forcing the Jews to ethnically cleanse their capital of its Jews and give up the precious land of their tiny state, he is doubling aidhe handles jihadist countries much differently.

86 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:19:12am

Right wing bloggers are all making sour faces and sneering. I think their non-stop hate-on has ruined their ability to enjoy anything.

87 joest73  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:20:18am

re: #81 negativ

I hate to imagine how many people are too young to know about Father Guido Sarducci. =(

That's what I was thinking....what a way to start a rally. I guess most of the people that put together this rally would like us to go back to the way things were in this country in the late 1970's when Father Guido Sarducci was relevant.

The crowd size looks about the same as the Glenn Back rally.

88 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:20:23am

re: #81 negativ

I hate to imagine how many people are too young to know about Father Guido Sarducci. =(

I wonder if he's on the Face Book?
/ (for throwing the "the" in there)

89 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:21:13am

re: #78 negativ

Fox News tomorrow: Stewart/Colbert rally plays to booing crowd of dejected dozens.

Fox's pre-rally permit nontroversy:
Permit Dispute Arises Over Stewart, Colbert Rallies

90 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:21:50am
JON STEWART’S WAR AGAINST PHOTOGRAPHY? “Rally to Resore Sanity” pledges to “strictly prohibit filming” at National Mall. “The claim that Comedy Central can prohibit filming on federal property during an event open to the public is completely wrong.”

But it’s revealing that they’d try. It’s really the Rally To Reassert The Failed Narrative. Plus, from the comments: “We smell their fear.”

UPDATE: Charlie Martin emails: “It’s pretty clear that ’sanity’ in this context means ’seeing and hearing what we think is good for you.’”

Posted at 10:42 am by Glenn Reynolds

Outrageous!

91 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:22:27am

re: #86 Charles

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Losers.

92 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:25:16am

A Muslim!! A singing Muslim!!

93 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:25:48am

D'oh! Here comes the outrageous outrage of the day!

94 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:25:49am

re: #88 Taqyia2Me

The Face a-Book

95 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:25:51am

re: #92 sagehen

A Muslim!! A singing Muslim!!

Run!!!11!!!!

96 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:25:58am

This rally is making me happy. I like this.

97 Usually refered to as anyways  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:26:06am

Did I just hear the sound of exploding heads.

98 Nemesis6  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:26:15am

...didn't Cat Stevens call for the execution of Salman Rushdie and stuff like that?

99 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:26:28am

re: #92 sagehen

A Muslim!! A singing Muslim!!

juan williams just turned off his telly............

100 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:26:36am

re: #97 ozbloke

Did I just hear the sound of exploding heads.

Yep. Lots of them. Just watch.

101 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:26:51am

Yikes, Cat Stevens.

My respect for him vanished when he supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.

102 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:27:57am

re: #69 reine.de.tout

Bonjour, yourself!
Good to see you
Shame i'm about to leave *sniff*
But I'll BBL.

I know where you went* ;)

*Hiding in the top-left corner behind the mohawk guy

103 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:28:00am

OZZY!

104 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:28:42am

re: #101 Charles

Yikes, Cat Stevens.

My respect for him vanished when he supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.

agreed

105 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:28:59am

I believe Simon would say his is "pitchy"....

106 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:29:38am

re: #101 Charles

I had not heard that. Well, we seem to have a good comeback in that case. Ozzie!

107 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:30:01am

re: #101 Charles

Yikes, Cat Stevens.

My respect for him vanished when he supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.

Cue the talking points.

108 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:30:06am

re: #101 Charles

Yikes, Cat Stevens.

My respect for him vanished when he supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.

There you go being all rational and realistic again.

You are never going to earn that blind partisan badge if you keep this up.
/

109 joest73  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:30:11am

Cat, Yusuf Islam, Stevens....this is what happens when New York elite liberals put together a rally. I know they are trying to be "cute" with the train thing....but come on.

110 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:30:19am

Do we get an Ozzy Yusuf duet?

111 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:30:40am

Duelling Gonzos

112 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:31:43am

re: #98 Nemesis6

...didn't Cat Stevens call for the execution of Salman Rushdie and stuff like that?

He claimed he was speaking hypothetically. If so he did a remarkably poor job of communicating his intent. I don't recall any further stupid comments.

113 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:32:52am

re: #101 Charles

Yikes, Cat Stevens.

My respect for him vanished when he supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.

For what it's worth, he claims it was a bad joke:

In 1989, during the heat and height of the Satanic Verses controversy, I was silly enough to accept appearing on a program called 'Hypotheticals' which posed imaginary scenarios by a well-versed (what if…?) barrister, Geoffrey Robertson QC. I foolishly made light of certain provocative questions. When asked what I’d do if Salman Rushdie entered a restaurant in which I was eating, I said, “I would probably call up Ayatollah Khomeini”; and, rather than go to a demonstration to burn an effigy of the author, I jokingly said I would have preferred that it'd be the “real thing”.

Criticize me for my bad taste, in hindsight, I agree. But these comments were part of a well-known British national trait; a touch of dry humor on my part...Certainly I regret giving those sorts of responses now.

114 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:34:14am

re: #101 Charles

re: #112 calochortus

He claimed he was speaking hypothetically. If so he did a remarkably poor job of communicating his intent. I don't recall any further stupid comments.

from an interview with rolling stone in 2000 -

I'm very sad that this seems to be the No. 1 question people want to discuss. I had nothing to do with the issue other than what the media created. I was innocently drawn into the whole controversy. So, after many years, I'm glad at least now that I have been given the opportunity to explain to the public and fans my side of the story in my own words. At a lecture, back in 1989, I was asked a question about blasphemy according to Islamic Law, I simply repeated the legal view according to my limited knowledge of the Scriptural texts, based directly on historical commentaries of the Qur'an. The next day the newspaper headlines read, "Cat Says, Kill Rushdie." I was abhorred, but what could I do? I was a new Muslim. If you ask a Bible student to quote the legal punishment of a person who commits blasphemy in the Bible, he would be dishonest if he didn't mention Leviticus 24:16.

115 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:34:23am

There was a greater (and veiled) point made by juxtaposing Cat Stevens and Ozzy Osbourne on stage. Some people will miss that.

116 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:34:41am

re: #113 publicityStunted

For what it's worth, he claims it was a bad joke:

Also has a bit of a personal aspect to it:

Alleged resemblance to character in the novel

While few have doubted Yusuf's piety or Sunni Islamic conservatism, some believe that the character "Bilal X" in Rushdie's book is a caricature of Yusuf Islam,[17] and one observer has theorized that this may have been partially responsible for his reaction to The Satanic Verses.[18] The fictional character Bilal X, a successful African-American former pop singer who has converted to Islam, is portrayed by Rushdie as the "favored lieutenant" of "the Imam", a character based on the Shia Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Bilal X's "well-nourished, highly trained" voice serves as "a weapon of the West turned against its makers." [19]

117 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:34:44am

Too bad Cat Stevens didn't get to sing the whole song. I can't remember the last time I saw him on stage.

118 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:35:02am

re: #113 publicityStunted

His original statement was a pretty clear justification for religious terrorism:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

119 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:35:16am

I never called for the death of Salman Rushdie; nor backed the Fatwa issued by the Ayatollah Khomeini--and still don’t. The book itself destroyed the harmony between peoples and created an unnecessary international crisis.

When asked about my opinion regarding blasphemy, I could not tell a lie and confirmed that--like both the Torah and the Gospel--the Qur’an considers it, without repentance, as a capital offense. The Bible is full of similar harsh laws if you’re looking for them.[10] However, the application of such Biblical and Qur’anic injunctions is not to be outside of due process of law, in a place or land where such law is accepted and applied by the society as a whole...

120 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:35:28am

re: #115 Gus 802

There was a greater (and veiled) point made by juxtaposing Cat Stevens and Ozzy Osbourne on stage. Some people will miss that.

Oh, I got the point, but damn it was nice hearing Cat Stevens singing live again.

121 cenotaphium  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:35:43am

re: #115 Gus 802

There was a greater (and veiled) point made by juxtaposing Cat Stevens and Ozzy Osbourne on stage. Some people will miss that.

Showing the connection between Islam and satanism?

///

122 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:36:39am

Anyone spot Decatur Deb yet??? Or Jamesfirecat??

123 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:36:45am

re: #115 Gus 802

There was a greater (and veiled) point made by juxtaposing Cat Stevens and Ozzy Osbourne on stage. Some people will miss that.

I feel dumb now :( What was the "greater point?"

124 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:36:51am

re: #120 darthstar

Oh, I got the point, but damn it was nice hearing Cat Stevens singing live again.

He played a charity show in London a few years ago IIRC

125 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:36:54am

re: #113 publicityStunted

For what it's worth, he claims it was a bad joke:

It was satire and he apologized... what more could anyone ask for. Case closed.

126 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:37:06am

anyhoos.

i am on the love train, and shall bid thee all happy watching.

laters.

127 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:37:12am

re: #113 publicityStunted

For what it's worth, he claims it was a bad joke:

I know, but I saw the video, and it really didn't look at all like he was joking. He went into detail about his opinion that Rushdie had committed a grave sin and deserved to die for it.

128 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:37:36am

re: #109 joest73

Cat, Yusuf Islam, Stevens...this is what happens when New York elite liberals put together a rally. I know they are trying to be "cute" with the train thing...but come on.

Mark my words, this is all we're going to hear about.

129 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:38:01am

re: #128 negativ

Mark my words, this is all we're going to hear about.

Yep, a mistake to have him on in my opinion.

130 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:39:06am

re: #113 publicityStunted

For what it's worth, he claims it was a bad joke:

He also referred to Israel as a 'so called society' and Judaism as a 'so called religion'.

Then Cat Stevens went on to say other, equally controversial things.

That too was caught on tape.

131 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:39:09am
132 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:39:09am

OK, Cat Stevens was on for a few minutes. Move on. Get over it. At least he wasn't behind Latin and South American death squads like certain ex-presidents.

133 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:39:39am

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Anyone spot Decatur Deb yet??? Or Jamesfirecat??

Oh, cool. Decatur is there. Now I feel like I'm missing a party. : (

134 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:40:06am

The Ozzie vs. Cat Stevens "Crazy Train vs. Peace Train" bit was good, though. I'll give Yusuf credit for renouncing what he said back then, but I don't buy the "satire" excuse.

135 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:40:30am

re: #132 Gus 802

OK, Cat Stevens was on for a few minutes. Move on. Get over it. At least he wasn't behind Latin and South American death squads like certain ex-presidents.

Really wanna go down that road? Awfully close to balance fairy. You're better than that Gus.

136 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:40:45am

re: #113 publicityStunted

For what it's worth, he claims it was a bad joke:

interesting.... first time I heard that.... thanks for the info

137 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:40:54am

re: #132 Gus 802

OK, Cat Stevens was on for a few minutes. Move on. Get over it. At least he wasn't behind Latin and South American death squads like certain ex-presidents.

Balance Fairy?

138 Gus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:40:54am

re: #135 McSpiff

Really wanna go down that road? Awfully close to balance fairy. You're better than that Gus.

Bleh.

Back later folks.

139 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:40:55am

re: #133 prairiefire

Oh, cool. Decatur is there. Now I feel like I'm missing a party. : (

The whole Mudflats crew is there too.

140 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:41:23am

re: #132 Gus 802

OK, Cat Stevens was on for a few minutes. Move on. Get over it. At least he wasn't behind Latin and South American death squads like certain ex-presidents.

You are ever the non partisan.

US support for death squads is a long standing tradition that crosses all political boundaries.

And I wish a sarc tag were needed.

141 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:41:23am

Let us not be satisfied until we have John Oliver.

142 RadicalModerate  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:41:31am

I'll cut Yusuf some slack over this - his statements were all over 20 years ago, and he has since apologized for and renounced his own statements.

143 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:41:38am

re: #132 Gus 802

OK, Cat Stevens was on for a few minutes. Move on. Get over it. At least he wasn't behind Latin and South American death squads like certain ex-presidents.

I think it was a bad move. I was just getting ready to comment that the rally was doing a great job with the speakers. No Micheal Moore, Cindy Sheehan. They did a great jobs keeping ugly radicals off the stage until Cat Stevens.

144 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:42:41am

re: #142 RadicalModerate

I'll cut Yusuf some slack over this - his statements were all over 20 years ago, and he has since apologized for and renounced his own statements.

And he's still got that great voice.

145 Nemesis6  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:43:10am

The black helicopters are coming to take us all to FEMA CAMPS!!!11one

Sorry, enough infowarrioring.

146 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:43:43am

Love Train, STDs and Heartbreak!

147 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:43:45am

re: #129 McSpiff

Yep, a mistake to have him on in my opinion.

I don't think it was a mistake. We're trying for sanity, right? I don't think we should permanently ostracize people for stupid remarks. Having him sing is not an endorsement of everything he ever said.

148 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:43:47am

re: #143 Killgore Trout

I think it was a bad move. I was just getting ready to comment that the rally was doing a great job with the speakers. No Micheal Moore, Cindy Sheehan. They did a great jobs keeping ugly radicals off the stage until Cat Stevens.

For the record, he didn't actually speak. I have no idea what the political persuasion of any of the other performers is, nor would I judge the rally on it.

149 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:44:20am

Hey, baseball (!) which I don't give a shit about. Good time to take a shower.

150 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:44:35am

re: #147 calochortus

I don't think it was a mistake. We're trying for sanity, right? I don't think we should permanently ostracize people for stupid remarks. Having him sing is not an endorsement of everything he ever said.

Yeah, I just kina came to the same opinion conclusion myself. Updinged.

151 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:44:48am

Love the Sanity Award.

152 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:45:42am

re: #148 McSpiff

For the record, he didn't actually speak. I have no idea what the political persuasion of any of the other performers is, nor would I judge the rally on it.


Stevens has a lot of baggage, for sure.

What is surprising is how surprised he says he is when he gets caught.

153 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:47:19am

re: #143 Killgore Trout

I think it was a bad move. I was just getting ready to comment that the rally was doing a great job with the speakers. No Micheal Moore, Cindy Sheehan. They did a great jobs keeping ugly radicals off the stage until Cat Stevens.

Everyone says stupid callous shit sometimes, imagine the uproar that would have occured if he said he understood how an unarmed, pinned, prone woman got stomped in the head, had zero sympathy for her.

154 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:47:55am

re: #153 goddamnedfrank

Everyone says stupid callous shit sometimes, imagine the uproar that would have occured if he said he understood how an unarmed, pinned, prone woman got stomped in the head, had zero sympathy for her.

That would make him Yusuf Limbaugh.

155 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:48:06am

re: #152 researchok

Stevens has a lot of baggage, for sure.

What is surprising is how surprised he says he is when he gets caught.

Heh, that seems generally true of public figures with rather extreme opinions in general.

156 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:48:08am

re: #153 goddamnedfrank

Everyone says stupid callous shit sometimes, imagine the uproar that would have occured if he said he understood how an unarmed, pinned, prone woman got stomped in the head, had zero sympathy for her.

I stand by my comments. Cat won't own up to his.

157 Locker  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:49:15am

...contains cadmium

158 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:49:26am

re: #152 researchok

Stevens has a lot of baggage, for sure.

What is surprising is how surprised he says he is when he gets caught.

I think he's surprised that people are still getting their panties in a twist 20 years later after he's said he was wrong back then, and even Salman Rushdie seems to have moved on.

159 joest73  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:50:08am

Alright....I watched this about as long as I watched the Glenn Beck rally. These rallies are utterly boring to watch. Time to carve some pumpkins with the kids.

160 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:50:15am

re: #158 darthstar

I think he's surprised that people are still getting their panties in a twist 20 years later after he's said he was wrong back then, and even Salman Rushdie seems to have moved on.

Keep fearful folks!!!

161 blueraven  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:50:56am

I actually didnt know about Stevens comments. But for goodness sake, they were 20 years ago. People do mellow out and I will give him the benefit of the doubt as I watch his words and actions now, and in the future.

162 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:52:03am

re: #158 darthstar

I think he's surprised that people are still getting their panties in a twist 20 years later after he's said he was wrong back then, and even Salman Rushdie seems to have moved on.

And that was 20 years ago... and is his remark any worst than this remark...

"Mohammed has just become the most popular baby name in Britain. “Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that?” Maher asked his panel. “Because I am. And it’s not because of the race, it’s because of the religion. I don’t have to apologize, do I, for not wanting the Western world to be taken over by Islam in 300 years?”

I wonder if we get an apology for this bigoted remark.

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

163 recusancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:53:03am

re: #161 blueraven

I actually didnt know about Stevens comments. But for goodness sake, they were 20 years ago. People do mellow out and I will give him the benefit of the doubt as I watch his words and actions now, and in the future.

And I'm sure Ozzy's been a saint his whole life too.. //

164 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:53:57am

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

Yep...Maher says stupid shit sometimes, and last night wasn't any different.

165 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:54:59am

re: #164 darthstar

Shit stinks no matter which side of the aisle it lands on.

166 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:56:01am

re: #158 darthstar

I think he's surprised that people are still getting their panties in a twist 20 years later after he's said he was wrong back then, and even Salman Rushdie seems to have moved on.

Did you see KT's post 131?

Let's just say Yusuf has been a lot less than forthright- and that's the baggage he carries.

Had he said 'Sorry, I was wrong', we'd all have moved on. Instead, he remains obtuse.

167 blueraven  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:56:44am

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

And that was 20 years ago... and is his remark any worst than this remark...

"Mohammed has just become the most popular baby name in Britain. “Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that?” Maher asked his panel. “Because I am. And it’s not because of the race, it’s because of the religion. I don’t have to apologize, do I, for not wanting the Western world to be taken over by Islam in 300 years?”

I wonder if we get an apology for this bigoted remark.

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

Maher is afraid of all religions. So it is not surprising that he would be concerned that any religion seems to be on the upswing.

168 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:58:11am

re: #166 researchok

Did you see KT's post 131?

Let's just say Yusuf has been a lot less than forthright- and that's the baggage he carries.

Had he said 'Sorry, I was wrong', we'd all have moved on. Instead, he remains obtuse.

A lot less forthright? What do you mean by that? He said it was a joke. Do you expect him to apologize for it being his real opinion when it was only a joke.

Do you tell jokes and then apologize for them, just in case someone took your joke as being real?

169 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:58:32am

re: #167 blueraven

Maher is afraid of all religions. So it is not surprising that he would be concerned that any religion seems to be on the upswing.

I wonder if we get an apology for this bigoted remark.

170 blueraven  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 10:59:44am

re: #169 Walter L. Newton

I wonder if we get an apology for this bigoted remark.

huh? My remark?

171 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:00:09am

re: #168 Walter L. Newton

A lot less forthright? What do you mean by that? He said it was a joke. Do you expect him to apologize for it being his real opinion when it was only a joke.

Do you tell jokes and then apologize for them, just in case someone took your joke as being real?

Did you see the video?

There is a reason lots of people don't buy the "It was just satire' excuse.

172 darthstar  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:00:41am

Okay...time to end this rally and listen to "Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me!"

Have a good day, everyone.

173 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:00:56am

re: #170 blueraven

huh? My remark?

No... Maher. I don't care if he like religions or not... is that an excuse for his bigoted stance?

174 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:01:32am

re: #171 researchok

Did you see the video?

There is a reason lots of people don't buy the "It was just satire' excuse.

LOL.

175 webevintage  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:01:52am

re: #87 joest73

That's what I was thinking...what a way to start a rally. I guess most of the people that put together this rally would like us to go back to the way things were in this country in the late 1970's when Father Guido Sarducci was relevant.


Late here...we honored the rally by going and voting early today.
BTW, my teenager (18) knew exactly who Father Guido Sarducci .

176 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:01:54am

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

Speaking of quality satire.

177 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:01:55am

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

LOL.

Anything substantive to add?

178 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:02:01am

Newsflash: Jon Stewart should avoid singing in public-at least in whatever key he's trying to sing now.

179 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:02:50am

is he singing in any particular key?

180 insert name here  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:03:30am

re: #178 calochortus

Newsflash: Jon Stewart should avoid singing in public-at least in whatever key he's trying to sing now.

I agree! Forget Yusef -- this is the real travesty!

181 webevintage  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:03:38am

And Cat Stevens/Bill Maher is exactly why need a Restore Sanity Rally....

182 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:03:50am

re: #176 McSpiff

Speaking of quality satire.

I can still get away with it... occasionally. :)

183 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:04:28am

re: #182 Walter L. Newton

I can still get away with it... occasionally. :)

I was chuckling, don't worry.

184 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:05:27am

re: #12 BigPapa

Not that we should get too worked up about numbers... But I hope it dwarfs Beck's silly rally.

It certainly looks more fun.

185 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:05:37am

So in the duel of 'satire rally' vs. college football, i chose football...does that make me a troglodyte? (I'm ok if the answer is "yes"...i just want to be graded accurately)/

186 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:06:28am

Something about the bomb... some woman just arrested at some air shipment terminal... on the radio, didn't get all details (was listening to some Cat Stevens), didn't get the location... more info will probably be on the intertubes ASAP.

187 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:06:31am

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

It certainly looks more fun.

Way, way more fun. A 90% less chance of getting yelled at.

188 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:07:38am

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

Something about the bomb... some woman just arrested at some air shipment terminal... on the radio, didn't get all details (was listening to some Cat Stevens), didn't get the location... more info will probably be on the intertubes ASAP.

I was sincerely shocked about all of the Synagogue addresses. Such a blatant terror attempt.

189 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:08:29am

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

Something about the bomb... some woman just arrested at some air shipment terminal... on the radio, didn't get all details (was listening to some Cat Stevens), didn't get the location... more info will probably be on the intertubes ASAP.

Yemen arrests woman over parcel bombs sent to U.S. synagogues

Yemeni security forces arrested on Saturday a woman thought to be involved in sending explosive packages headed to the United States after surrounding a house where she was hiding in the capital Sanaa, a security official said.

...

190 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:08:37am

re: #187 prairiefire

Actually I do kind of feel sorry for a lot of rank and file conservatives-there seems to be a lack of joy in their lives. I could be wrong, of course, but there is a lot of fear out there.

191 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:08:38am

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

Something about the bomb... some woman just arrested at some air shipment terminal... on the radio, didn't get all details (was listening to some Cat Stevens), didn't get the location... more info will probably be on the intertubes ASAP.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

192 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:09:13am

re: #190 calochortus

Actually I do kind of feel sorry for a lot of rank and file conservatives-there seems to be a lack of joy in their lives. I could be wrong, of course, but there is a lot of fear out there.

I'm happy as shit... you must not get out much.

193 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:09:49am

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

Who would ever describe you as 'rank-and-file'?

194 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:11:24am

re: #158 darthstar

I think he's surprised that people are still getting their panties in a twist 20 years later after he's said he was wrong back then, and even Salman Rushdie seems to have moved on.

My panties aren't twisted, but it was a real shock to me when Cat Stevens endorsed the murder of a writer. I was a huge admirer of his music -- I played a lot of his songs in my early bands in Hawaii. For someone who personified peace and love and all that stuff, to suddenly come out and sound so bloodthirsty was a nasty surprise. And please note -- my distaste for what he said isn't coming from a right wing viewpoint. What he said was the epitome of an illiberal, Dark Ages opinion. Nobody should ever be killed for writing a book.

He's no threat to anyone, and I don't want to see him in Gitmo or anything like that, but it's pretty hard to forgive that kind of statement, especially when he tries to float the transparently false excuse that it was a joke.

195 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:11:34am

re: #193 McSpiff

Who would ever describe you as 'rank-and-file'?

I could make a list, but I'm not interested in starting an argument.

196 Nemesis6  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:11:56am

Hey, maybe Kid Rock will finally make some good music.

197 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:12:24am

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

I'm happy as shit... you must not get out much.

How happy is shit? And how do we know that?

I didn't say everyone-and I do know happy conservatives-but people who strike out at the least provocation (real or imagined) and worry a lot about other people having fun in ways they do not approve of, I can't imagine they are living joyful lives.

198 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:12:25am

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

I could make a list, but I'm not interested in starting an argument.

all right, who hacked into Walter's account...?

//

199 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:14:57am

re: #189 McSpiff

Yemen arrests woman over parcel bombs sent to U.S. synagogues

This is all going to add an extra layer of excitement to my trip to France in Jan. And it's a freebie. Can't beat that. I suspect flights to France are prime targets right now for some of "those who we will not name" religionist.

200 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:15:38am

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Comedy Central's park permit puts the crowd estimate at 60,000.

Colbert's twitter estimates over 6,000,000,000

201 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:15:53am

re: #198 Aceofwhat?

all right, who hacked into Walter's account...?

//

My cat... Tikki-Boo-Boo-Meow-Meow walked across the keyboard.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:16:03am

At a lecture, back in 1989, I was asked a question about blasphemy according to Islamic Law, I simply repeated the legal view according to my limited knowledge of the Scriptural texts, based directly on historical commentaries of the Qur'an. The next day the newspaper headlines read, "Cat Says, Kill Rushdie." I was abhorred, but what could I do? I was a new Muslim. If you ask a Bible student to quote the legal punishment of a person who commits blasphemy in the Bible, he would be dishonest if he didn't mention Leviticus 24:16.

Shrug. It's a cop-out excuse, you ask me, but I also know that people who will completely dismiss the whole rally over Cat Freakin' Stevens, would completely accept that cop-out excuse coming from a Tea Party Christian.

Personally, I will settle for, "Cat Stevens is not my favorite person, based on some of his shit about Israel" and leave it at that.

203 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:16:49am

re: #199 Walter L. Newton

This is all going to add an extra layer of excitement to my trip to France in Jan. And it's a freebie. Can't beat that. I suspect flights to France are prime targets right now for some of "those who we will not name" religionist.

Stay sharp.

204 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:17:05am

re: #197 calochortus

How happy is shit? And how do we know that?

I didn't say everyone-and I do know happy conservatives-but people who strike out at the least provocation (real or imagined) and worry a lot about other people having fun in ways they do not approve of, I can't imagine they are living joyful lives.

Imagining what others feel is a practice that can quickly lead to shaky generalizations about large swaths of fellow humans...it's a tricky enterprise...

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:18:35am

re: #158 darthstar

I think he's surprised that people are still getting their panties in a twist 20 years later after he's said he was wrong back then, and even Salman Rushdie seems to have moved on.

No, I have my panties in a twist over his anti-Israel nonsense.

206 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:19:27am

re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist

At a lecture, back in 1989, I was asked a question about blasphemy according to Islamic Law, I simply repeated the legal view according to my limited knowledge of the Scriptural texts, based directly on historical commentaries of the Qur'an. The next day the newspaper headlines read, "Cat Says, Kill Rushdie." I was abhorred, but what could I do? I was a new Muslim. If you ask a Bible student to quote the legal punishment of a person who commits blasphemy in the Bible, he would be dishonest if he didn't mention Leviticus 24:16.

Shrug. It's a cop-out excuse, you ask me, but I also know that people who will completely dismiss the whole rally over Cat Freakin' Stevens, would completely accept that cop-out excuse coming from a Tea Party Christian.

Personally, I will settle for, "Cat Stevens is not my favorite person, based on some of his shit about Israel" and leave it at that.

And that shows that you understand the point of the rally. Cheers.

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:19:40am

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

And that was 20 years ago... and is his remark any worst than this remark...

"Mohammed has just become the most popular baby name in Britain. “Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that?” Maher asked his panel. “Because I am. And it’s not because of the race, it’s because of the religion. I don’t have to apologize, do I, for not wanting the Western world to be taken over by Islam in 300 years?”

I wonder if we get an apology for this bigoted remark.

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

I don't know, but I'd like one. Did you think I would make excuses because it was Bill Maher?

208 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:20:03am

re: #197 calochortus

How happy is shit? And how do we know that?

I didn't say everyone-and I do know happy conservatives-but people who strike out at the least provocation (real or imagined) and worry a lot about other people having fun in ways they do not approve of, I can't imagine they are living joyful lives.

I know many conservatives that have absolute joy at telling others how to live. You confuse what would make you joyless with others who do not consider that sort of self righteousness as being burdensome or negative in any way.

209 ag in houston  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:20:42am

DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN!

Awesome. If you can't appreciate how good and powerful that line is, you don't deserve to be watching. But taking away anyone's feed would be unreasonable.

210 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:20:58am

re: #167 blueraven

Maher is afraid of all religions. So it is not surprising that he would be concerned that any religion seems to be on the upswing.

Given that Christianity is already dominant in the Western World, can I assume that he figures you should just stick with what you've already got, and fear any three-hundred-year trend that might change that?

211 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:21:58am

re: #204 Aceofwhat?

Imagining what others feel is a practice that can quickly lead to shaky generalizations about large swaths of fellow humans...it's a tricky enterprise...

Of course it is tricky. And this is just my impression. I'm not suggesting we make national policy based on it.

Since I approve of increasing the general level of happiness, I'd be delighted to hear that that most heavy viewers of Fox News, for example, are not fearful. Considering the constant drumbeat of fear and anger they are fed, however, I'd be surprised.

212 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:22:08am

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know, but I'd like one. Did you think I would make excuses because it was Bill Maher?

Did I ask you to make excuses... did I even address my comment to you? Why are you asking me. I don't care.

213 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:22:16am

re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist

Given that Christianity is already dominant in the Western World, can I assume that he figures you should just stick with what you've already got, and fear any three-hundred-year trend that might change that?

No, he hates on Christianity equally in my opinion. He desires a religion free world I'd say.

214 webevintage  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:22:24am

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know, but I'd like one. Did you think I would make excuses because it was Bill Maher?

I mean really...
And I watched it last night and all of his guests told him it was bigoted and the crowd did not laugh.
Not funny at all and bigoted....

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:22:32am

re: #190 calochortus

Actually I do kind of feel sorry for a lot of rank and file conservatives-there seems to be a lack of joy in their lives. I could be wrong, of course, but there is a lot of fear out there.

I think most rank-and-file conservatives are fine. It's the people who've latched on to the Tea Party like it was a new, rather puritanical religion, that worry me.

216 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:22:34am

All the liberal policy wonks are Twitter are kvetching about the rally. Just not enough of a progressive message for them.

What a bunch of fussbudgets. Sometimes fun and humor are the most powerful political statements of all.

217 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:23:52am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

Could be.

Anyway, I have to go donate some precious bodily fluid (neighborhood blood drive.) Carry on...

218 ag in houston  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:23:58am

Right on Charles.
For heaven's sake. Will people put down their baloney partisanship for one minute.

219 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:24:09am

re: #211 calochortus

Of course it is tricky. And this is just my impression. I'm not suggesting we make national policy based on it.

Since I approve of increasing the general level of happiness, I'd be delighted to hear that that most heavy viewers of Fox News, for example, are not fearful. Considering the constant drumbeat of fear and anger they are fed, however, I'd be surprised.

in what fashion or manner could you hear such a thing so that you would trust the new information more than your 'impression'? i ask in honest curiosity...it's a tough question to answer.

220 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:25:05am

re: #216 Charles

All the liberal policy wonks are Twitter are kvetching about the rally. Just not enough of a progressive message for them.

What a bunch of fussbudgets. Sometimes fun and humor are the most powerful political statement of all.

Getting exactly the same impression. Is everyone broken?

221 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:25:06am

More comments from Malkin's blog.... bleh

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On October 30th, 2010 at 1:06 pm, tre said:

Hey, Obummer and Bite-me! I’ve just located irrefutible proof that your recession is still going. I’ve found a couple hundred people with no work to do so they’re loitering around Washington holding dumb signs.
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#7
On October 30th, 2010 at 1:10 pm, cheapseat said:

WOW, I’m impressed. A few hundred white rich college kids from Georgetown. And hun, do you mean you masturbate also, in which case to is spelled too, (Parents of this bimbette get your money back from the college) or do you mean you masturbate to pictures of Christine O’Donnell, (Parents where were you when your child was growing up?)

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On October 30th, 2010 at 1:53 pm, J.J. Sefton said:

Treacher is engaging in major self abouse by live-blogging this, poor bastard. Even with the controlled camera angle, Leibowitz went to a remote in the crowd and before the cameraman could tighten the lens you could see that there was no one in the background.

FAIL.

By the way, that sign at the top of the post that says Fweedom – pwease wetuwn to Bawney Fwank.
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#16
On October 30th, 2010 at 1:53 pm, Mister P said:

I would call this the “Last Hurrah”
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#17
On October 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

I hope they all get wasted and that there are flight delays until late Tuesday night.
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#18
On October 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

Too bad the Myth Busters are there-I enjoyed watching it with my grandson and his cousin. Not anymore.

‘Mythbusters’ try giant wave at DC rally

Yes indeed they are entitled to their opinions and my opinion of them just dropped. They are Oprah and Arianna in costume.

222 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:25:36am

re: #216 Charles

All the liberal policy wonks are Twitter are kvetching about the rally. Just not enough of a progressive message for them.

What a bunch of fussbudgets. Sometimes fun and humor are the most powerful political statement of all.

So, basically, the rally is reminiscent of LGF in that both the far left and the far right complain about it? Brilliant!

223 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:26:01am

re: #220 negativ

Getting exactly the same impression. Is everyone broken?

99.9%

224 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:26:26am

re: #220 negativ

re: #216 Charles

All the liberal policy wonks are Twitter are kvetching about the rally. Just not enough of a progressive message for them.

What a bunch of fussbudgets. Sometimes fun and humor are the most powerful political statement of all.

Getting exactly the same impression. Is everyone broken?

Nah, I'm a liberal policy wonk and I'm loving this rally

225 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:26:31am

re: #212 Walter L. Newton

Did I ask you to make excuses... did I even address my comment to you? Why are you asking me. I don't care.

I defer to your sublime indifference and completely non-pointed non-rhetorical questions.

226 JeffFX  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:26:44am

re: #134 Charles

The Ozzie vs. Cat Stevens "Crazy Train vs. Peace Train" bit was good, though. I'll give Yusuf credit for renouncing what he said back then, but I don't buy the "satire" excuse.

I believe he believes it was satire. A lot of people distort their own memories when they're ashamed of something foolish they said or did. He made some beautiful music, which made the things he said more painful for me, so I think it's great that he at least doesn't seem to feel that way anymore.

Religion is often a force for good, but as we've seen with Yusuf, it can really screw a person up. I just hope we all try to be better people as we mature, and correct our earlier personal failings as best we can.

227 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:27:10am

CORBOMITE

228 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:27:53am
229 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:29:01am

While we're at it: I plan to do NANOWRIMO, this year. (National Novel Writer's Month). The challenge is 50,000 words in thirty days.

I have three potential projects, and I'm asking people on Facebook and such to vote on them. I figure the Lizards should also get a vote. These are your options.

1. A mystery novel set in Renaissance Florence, the sequel to the recently completed one.

2. A mystery novel set in the medieval English Jewish community.

3. A more literary-type novel about the women in King David's life.

Vote on this thread and indulge me! If you have already voted on Facebook, no voting again!

230 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:30:01am

re: #213 McSpiff

No, he hates on Christianity equally in my opinion. He desires a religion free world I'd say.

Good on him, but that doesn't actually lead to the idea that "Mohammed" is a scarier name than "John".

231 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:30:16am

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll vote for (2. A mystery novel set in the medieval English Jewish community.)

232 calochortus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:30:18am

re: #219 Aceofwhat?

in what fashion or manner could you hear such a thing so that you would trust the new information more than your 'impression'? i ask in honest curiosity...it's a tough question to answer.

I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you asking what would make me believe most tea party members are living joyful lives or that Fox News viewers aren't anxious? I suppose if more of them I hear interviewed, or whose opinions I read on blogs, etc. didn't seem so angry. Anyway, I really need to go, sorry if I haven't answered your question

233 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:30:34am

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

I vote for 2, but they all sound great!

234 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:30:35am

ROGER MURDOCK. I'm an airline pilot.

235 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:30:41am

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

While we're at it: I plan to do NANOWRIMO, this year. (National Novel Writer's Month). The challenge is 50,000 words in thirty days.

I have three potential projects, and I'm asking people on Facebook and such to vote on them. I figure the Lizards should also get a vote. These are your options.

1. A mystery novel set in Renaissance Florence, the sequel to the recently completed one.

2. A mystery novel set in the medieval English Jewish community.

3. A more literary-type novel about the women in King David's life.

Vote on this thread and indulge me! If you have already voted on Facebook, no voting again!

#3, unless you were planning to sync #1 with the storyline in one of the Assassin's Creed games, in which case i would nerdily vote #1.

236 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:31:38am

re: #230 SanFranciscoZionist

Good on him, but that doesn't actually lead to the idea that "Mohammed" is a scarier name than "John".

Not even close. Never said it did. That comment was just plain bigoted.

237 webevintage  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:31:46am

re: #216 Charles

All the liberal policy wonks are Twitter are kvetching about the rally. Just not enough of a progressive message for them.

What a bunch of fussbudgets. Sometimes fun and humor are the most powerful political statements of all.

I have been reading David Corn's tweets...fussbudget is right.
Irony seems to not be a progressive trait either.
Maybe it is just a problem with people who take themselves too seriously?

238 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:31:50am

re: #232 calochortus

I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you asking what would make me believe most tea party members are living joyful lives or that Fox News viewers aren't anxious? I suppose if more of them I hear interviewed, or whose opinions I read on blogs, etc. didn't seem so angry. Anyway, I really need to go, sorry if I haven't answered your question

oh, no - good answer, thanks. and +1 for being a donor...they turn me away...i lived in Europe for too long during the wrong time.

239 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:31:51am

holy shit its R2!!!!!!!

240 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:31:54am

From the side bar of the Daily Mail article on the terror packages...

"Terror expert Dr Sally Leivesley said it appeared to be a 'sophisticated' device which may have used the powdered toner as a means of evading screening."

That actually makes a whole lot of sense. What do you expect to find in a full sized laser printer... circuit boards, toner cartridges, toner... SOMETHING IN THE TONER CARTRIDGE.

Unless they were using chemical sniffers (do they do that to all international cargo), Xrays, visual inspection, that kind of stuff, would not show anything to odd, unless someone looking at the printer or inside the printer was some expert on the construction of that printer.

This "tact" could be used in other sort of devices.

Clever.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

241 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:32:41am

A private estimate from a Park Service employee: Jon Stewart Rally Live: Blogging to 'Restore Sanity' (photos) | TBD.com

Publicly, Parks Service doesn't estimate crowds. Privately, it has told Viacom there are "well over 200,000" people at the rally, exec says.

242 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:32:54am

re: #234 negativ

ROGER MURDOCK. I'm an airline pilot.

and Leon's getting laaarrrggger!!

243 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:33:38am

re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist

At a lecture, back in 1989, I was asked a question about blasphemy according to Islamic Law, I simply repeated the legal view according to my limited knowledge of the Scriptural texts, based directly on historical commentaries of the Qur'an. The next day the newspaper headlines read, "Cat Says, Kill Rushdie." I was abhorred, but what could I do? I was a new Muslim. If you ask a Bible student to quote the legal punishment of a person who commits blasphemy in the Bible, he would be dishonest if he didn't mention Leviticus 24:16.

Shrug. It's a cop-out excuse, you ask me, but I also know that people who will completely dismiss the whole rally over Cat Freakin' Stevens, would completely accept that cop-out excuse coming from a Tea Party Christian.

Personally, I will settle for, "Cat Stevens is not my favorite person, based on some of his shit about Israel" and leave it at that.

You are one kind and forgiving person.

Yusuf has never really apologized for the Toronto, Canada debacle- other than to laugh it off. When pressed he said, "Me? Support terror? No way!"

Save for those pesky associations with groups long linked to terror.

244 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:33:38am

re: #219 Aceofwhat?

My friend T, my mom in law, my class mate L, about 3 other conservatives are contentious, angry, and fearful. My conservative uncle is just tight with a dime. So, anecdotally: 6 angry, 1 fiscal conservative for today's field study.

245 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:33:59am

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

Number three could be much, much more interesting. Please attempt to channel William S Burroughs and Kurt Vonnegut.

246 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:34:35am

re: #244 prairiefire

My friend T, my mom in law, my class mate L, about 3 other conservatives are contentious, angry, and fearful. My conservative uncle is just tight with a dime. So, anecdotally: 6 angry, 1 fiscal conservative for today's field study.

And you met me... did I appear fearful or angry.

247 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:36:08am

re: #244 prairiefire

My friend T, my mom in law, my class mate L, about 3 other conservatives are contentious, angry, and fearful. My conservative uncle is just tight with a dime. So, anecdotally: 6 angry, 1 fiscal conservative for today's field study.

Sorry about that. One side of my family is socially liberal and fiscally conservative...the other side is socially + fiscally conservative...everybody's happy!

248 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:36:20am

re: #240 Walter L. Newton

From the side bar of the Daily Mail article on the terror packages...

"Terror expert Dr Sally Leivesley said it appeared to be a 'sophisticated' device which may have used the powdered toner as a means of evading screening."

That actually makes a whole lot of sense. What do you expect to find in a full sized laser printer... circuit boards, toner cartridges, toner... SOMETHING IN THE TONER CARTRIDGE.

Unless they were using chemical sniffers (do they do that to all international cargo), Xrays, visual inspection, that kind of stuff, would not show anything to odd, unless someone looking at the printer or inside the printer was some expert on the construction of that printer.

This "tact" could be used in other sort of devices.

Clever.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Image: article-1324948-0BD57ECD000005DC-901_634x476.jpg

249 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:36:50am

I would like to add many of my culturally conservative, congenial and pleasant neighbors to the conservative field study.
I also know several extremely liberal women who are very judgemental and unpleasant.
So, all over the map, really.

250 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:37:00am

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

And you met me... did I appear fearful or angry.

*pfssst*

worms, anyone?

(just kidding, Walter)

251 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:37:07am

re: #243 researchok

You are one kind and forgiving person.

Yusuf has never really apologized for the Toronto, Canada debacle- other than to laugh it off. When pressed he said, "Me? Support terror? No way!"

Save for those pesky associations with groups long linked to terror.

No, I'm not a kind and forgiving person at all. I don't like the dude. Period. I wish he had not been given this gig.

What else should I say?

252 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:39:38am

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

And you met me... did I appear fearful or angry.

No, perfectly pleasant, thoughtful guide, and a respectable gentleman.
I would hazard the opinion you are angry about a liberal political agenda. Which is your American right, you conservative political opinion.
I saw it from the other side in 2004 as a liberal against the conservative prevailing party.

253 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:44:49am

All in all, it was a pretty classy show.

255 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:45:20am

re: #253 researchok

All in all, it was a pretty classy show.

Yeah, not bad.

256 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:45:58am

Wow, an actual speech excoriating the media ensues.

257 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:46:18am

Hard times, not End times.

258 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:46:29am

re: #251 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I'm not a kind and forgiving person at all. I don't like the dude. Period. I wish he had not been given this gig.

What else should I say?

Hey, I'm on your side.

I have no use for the guy. Whatever he once was has long been replaced.

259 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:46:42am

A great show for sure. And I think it's important to remember that when comparing this one to Beck's rally, Beck's was planned and promoted for over a year, while this one's planning and promotion started last month.

And he vastly outshined Beck

260 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:47:17am

I wonder if Breitbart is going to start yelling at me on twitter. He's really wound up today.

261 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:48:04am

re: #252 prairiefire

No, perfectly pleasant, thoughtful guide, and a respectable gentleman.
I would hazard the opinion you are angry about a liberal political agenda. Which is your American right, you conservative political opinion.
I saw it from the other side in 2004 as a liberal against the conservative prevailing party.

Nope... bottom line, I don't think we get much difference no matter who the hell is in DC... barely a moment of my life is dictated by what Washington wants to do or doesn't want to do, what they do do, or what they don't do... I'm in control of almost everything... and what I'm not in control of I don't let get in my way, I find ways around that.

Jousting about politics, here on LGF, or otherwise, is a sport for me. Sort of like watching a Jackass movie.

I have opinions, I can take sides, but I'm able to jump ship at any moment, because I take care of me and mine, and I don't consider ANY promise from ANY politician to have any lasting merit.

If one of those politicians accidently manages to do something good, fine... but I don't hold my breath.

"You are to be in the world, but not part of the world."

262 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:49:02am

"If we amplify everything, we hear nothing."

263 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:49:36am

Redit mascot

264 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:50:08am

This is one speech that will be repeated and reprinted more than once.

Ought to be.

265 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:51:53am

"Looks like i picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines"

266 jaunte  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:52:01am

"Little, reasonable compromises."
Outrageous!

267 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:52:26am
things getting awkward in the press box as jon slams cable news and the press for just about everything #rally

via @jillrayfield

268 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:53:37am

Did he just reference Breitbart as the jerk using the shoulder to drive?

269 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:54:08am

Hijab sighting on the Mall
Image: 610x.jpg

270 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:54:09am

re: #268 samuraishake

Did he just reference Breitbart as the jerk using the shoulder to drive?

that's what I was thinking..

271 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:55:05am

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I wonder if Breitbart is going to start yelling at me on twitter. He's really wound up today.

Do something to egg him on.

272 boxhead  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:55:24am

best speech I have heard for some time..... and I bet the most honest.

Good Job Stewart

273 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:56:18am

re: #271 reine.de.tout

Do something to egg him on.

I tweeted my page about him lying about his election night gig on ABC. I thought that might get his attention.

274 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:56:29am

I bet you don't know that Tony Bennett is also a very talented caricature artist.

275 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:57:16am

re: #269 Killgore Trout

Hijab sighting on the Mall
Image: 610x.jpg

I was there recently.
I saw plenty of Muslim families touring the Capital, and looking like they appreciated being American.

276 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 11:57:38am

It's good to hear people chanting "USA" for once. When I heard it at the Beck rally I wanted to vomit over their twisted definition of patriotism.

277 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:00:00pm

re: #275 reine.de.tout

I was there recently.
I saw plenty of Muslim families touring the Capital, and looking like they appreciated being American.

Hey lady! You doing well?

278 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:00:39pm

re: #276 samuraishake

It's good to hear people chanting "USA" for once. When I heard it at the Beck rally I wanted to vomit over their twisted definition of patriotism.

Also good: watching Miami lose to Virginia. It's not that i like Virginia...I just can't stand Miami...

279 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:01:16pm

re: #277 Aceofwhat?

Hey lady! You doing well?

Howdy!
Yes, indeedy, doing really well.
Was on vacation last week - made a big loop, Tennessee, Kentucky, a few hours in DC, Virginia, North Carolina, then back through Alabama, Mississippi to home.

'twas a great trip.

280 Charleston Chew  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:01:22pm

Live coverage continues at cspan.org

281 researchok  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:01:43pm

The best political speech in a very long time was non political and delivered by a comedian.

The politicians, pundits, partisans and talking heads ought to be ashamed of themselves. They have all been oughted for who and what they are by John Stewart.

282 samuraishake  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:02:26pm

Is anyone else watching the Axe ad that popped up? This is hilarious

283 Aceofwhat?  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:02:38pm

re: #279 reine.de.tout

Howdy!
Yes, indeedy, doing really well.
Was on vacation last week - made a big loop, Tennessee, Kentucky, a few hours in DC, Virginia, North Carolina, then back through Alabama, Mississippi to home.

'twas a great trip.

Sounds like a blast. We're going to the zoo spooktacular tonight with the kiddehs...if they want to get dressed up for it, i'll take some pictures for you.

284 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:03:16pm

re: #283 Aceofwhat?

Sounds like a blast. We're going to the zoo spooktacular tonight with the kiddehs...if they want to get dressed up for it, i'll take some pictures for you.

Would love it!
I miss taking the little one out to trick or treat.
It ends so quickly.
Enjoy every minute of it.

285 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:03:23pm

BBL

286 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:04:03pm

I learned that I need to investigate John Legend & The Roots, and buy some of their stuff.

287 recusancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:05:04pm

re: #286 negativ

I learned that I need to investigate John Legend & The Roots, and buy some of their stuff.

Those are two separate bands.

288 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:09:23pm

I was a HUGE Cat Stevens fan when I was 13, which is maybe the right age for his stuff. I am another ex-fan now, but I enjoyed watching this edit of the old [young] him and the new [old] him doing "Father and Son" as a duet:

289 webevintage  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:11:15pm

I think the Cat Stevens/Ozzie/O'Jays train skit may nave been one of the best things ever.

290 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:14:10pm

re: #109 joest73

Cat, Yusuf Islam, Stevens...this is what happens when New York elite liberals put together a rally. I know they are trying to be "cute" with the train thing...but come on.

Wow, you're a dumb person

291 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:16:13pm

re: #221 boxhead

ahahaha I love stupid people in comments

Too bad the Myth Busters are there-I enjoyed watching it with my grandson and his cousin. Not anymore.

‘Mythbusters’ try giant wave at DC rally

Yes indeed they are entitled to their opinions and my opinion of them just dropped. They are Oprah and Arianna in costume.

This is the funniest thing, right here, just all MAH PENIS HURTS WEHHHH MIFFBUSTERS ISSA LIBURULLLL

292 JamesWI  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:17:38pm

re: #290 WindUpBird

Wow, you're a dumb person

While the Tea Party's version of celebrity is Victoria Jackson, who has said a lot of more batshit crazy things than Cat Stevens' stupid interview twenty years ago. She's at practically every Tea Party rally there is.

You know who she is right? Fondly remembered for her famous roles on SNL, like "ditzy blonde #2" and "annoying blond #1", and "shrill woman in the backround"

293 webevintage  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:23:33pm

The amount of butthurt coming out of the progressive pundit class (just wth? is up David Corn and Olberman's asses?) on twitter is amazing and delightful

294 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:31:41pm

re: #286 negativ

I learned that I need to investigate John Legend & The Roots, and buy some of their stuff.

Just FYI-- John Legend is an independent artist from The Roots. I absolutely recommend looking up all their stuff, though. They're incredible. What you saw at the rally today was just a small taste of their awesomeness.

Also, The Roots are the best reason to watch Jimmy Fallon's talk show, since they're his house band. The recent clip of Jimmy, The Roots, and Justin Timberlake going through the history of hip-hop is geeky fun:

295 SpaceJesus  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:33:03pm

man, I miss living in D.C. right about now

296 Guile  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:36:02pm

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297 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:41:34pm

Adios, muchacho!

298 Lidane  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:42:36pm

re: #281 researchok

The best political speech in a very long time was non political and delivered by a comedian.

Agreed. I loved that speech.

299 harlequinade  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:44:20pm

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

3 sounds wonderful. I'd say 1, but it's a sequel, and I don't know the first one :)

300 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:44:40pm

re: #297 Charles

Adios, muchacho!

Press one for English... "You're out of here... asshole."

301 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:53:06pm

By the way, the estimate of "well over 200,000" is sourced to Brian Stelter of the New York Times: [Link: twitter.com...]

302 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:56:41pm

re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist

While we're at it: I plan to do NANOWRIMO, this year. (National Novel Writer's Month). The challenge is 50,000 words in thirty days.

I have three potential projects, and I'm asking people on Facebook and such to vote on them. I figure the Lizards should also get a vote. These are your options.

1. A mystery novel set in Renaissance Florence, the sequel to the recently completed one.

2. A mystery novel set in the medieval English Jewish community.

3. A more literary-type novel about the women in King David's life.

Vote on this thread and indulge me! If you have already voted on Facebook, no voting again!


The King David story provides a clear opening for hot man-on-man action... will it be an illustrated novel?

303 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:59:31pm

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

And you met me... did I appear fearful or angry.

You do quite often appear angry, yes.

304 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:03:50pm

re: #303 sagehen

You do quite often appear angry, yes.

Bite me.

305 sagehen  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:08:44pm

re: #286 negativ

I learned that I need to investigate John Legend & The Roots, and buy some of their stuff.

The Roots are Jimmy Fallon's house band. On five nights a week.

306 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:24:32pm

re: #87 joest73

Nice post Archie Bunker.

307 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:27:08pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

I think it was a bad move. I was just getting ready to comment that the rally was doing a great job with the speakers. No Micheal Moore, Cindy Sheehan. They did a great jobs keeping ugly radicals off the stage until Cat Stevens.

I've got to wonder though, just how hostile this crowd is to Israel.

308 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:41:32pm

re: #303 sagehen

You do quite often appear angry, yes.

I've interpreted such behavior as cranky. Similar emotion I suppose.

309 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:44:43pm

Hey everybody just got back, you know a rally is doing something right to attract people when you need binoculars to see the jumbo tron...

310 lostlakehiker  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 2:02:44pm

re: #6 Charles

Several journalists on Twitter have estimated there are more than 200,000 people there.

Having seen both video and still shots of this crowd, and the earlier Beck crowd, which was bigger? Anyone?

311 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 2:31:44pm

re: #310 lostlakehiker

Having seen both video and still shots of this crowd, and the earlier Beck crowd, which was bigger? Anyone?

This one looks quite a bit larger to me. There's going to be a CBS estimate at 6 pm, by the same company that did the aerial photograph analysis of Beck's rally. This one looks at least twice as large to me.

312 William of Orange  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 3:54:28pm

|I saw it over here in the Netherlands. Very decent stream, most of the time even HD! According to Jon Stewart there were well over 10 million people attending the rally!! (hree on the left, two on the right....) Hahaahah!!

313 nhand42  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 4:33:08pm

re: #101 Charles

Yikes, Cat Stevens.

My respect for him vanished when he supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie.

"I'm very sad that this seems to be the No. 1 question people want to discuss. I had nothing to do with the issue other than what the media created. I was innocently drawn into the whole controversy. So, after many years, I'm glad at least now that I have been given the opportunity to explain to the public and fans my side of the story in my own words. At a lecture, back in 1989, I was asked a question about blasphemy according to Islamic Law, I simply repeated the legal view according to my limited knowledge of the Scriptural texts, based directly on historical commentaries of the Qur'an. The next day the newspaper headlines read, "Cat Says, Kill Rushdie." I was abhorred, but what could I do? I was a new Muslim. If you ask a Bible student to quote the legal punishment of a person who commits blasphemy in the Bible, he would be dishonest if he didn't mention Leviticus 24:16. [2]" -- Cat Stevens (2000)

314 Toots McGee  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 4:34:12pm

Just got back from the rally. The crowd in person was ridiculous. The crowd stretched back solid to 9th street and was sizeable even further beyond that. Some portions of the grass were initially being closed off but people eventually went on them because there was literally no place else to go. The crowds were wall to wall from Madison Ave to Independence Ave in a large number of places and packed like sardines onto the steps and walls of buildings that lined those streets. People were in trees, on top of porto potties, anywhere you could get a vantage point.

Having seen the Beck aerials, and having walked around the entire mass of humanity today, I can safely say that this event dwarfed that thing. It's not even close. I wouldn't be surprised if it's way over 200,000. The pictures will tell that tale.

315 danhenry1  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 4:50:55pm

Was there early and left around 1430. Best estimates are around 35-,000...Police and even the the Mythbusters have come up with that figure. And there were still folks streaming in. Sorry I had to leave. DC will be a good party town tonight, or not...hope everyone gets on the way home safely I bet an accurate figure will be closer to a half million. D

316 danhenry1  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 4:51:43pm

the first number should have been 350,000

317 Batman  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 4:51:45pm

200,000 is far from Beck's ten million, but to be fair it's much easier to get the soulless to rally on 9/12 than sane, rational folks to rally on 10/30. It's cold, it's almost Halloween, and rallying is for crazy people with strong opinions.

318 danhenry1  Sat, Oct 30, 2010 8:11:15pm

Hi Charles,
I've been with you for quite a while, don't talk all that much.
Great site.
Take care, dan
now...Texas in 6 (go sox)
Pats over Vikes +4
Sheldon T +2
Go Ducks...1
Boise St..2


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