Who?

re: #1 Ojoe

Don’t be fatuous.

Rachael & I see this really differently. As in Fox’s bad habits are irrelevant to MSNBC policy. No need to take away legitimate rights (donating to the candidate you like) to ensure the appearance of impartiality. Especially from a talent (ahem) like Keith Olberman who vocalizes his preferences with nearly every syllable! It’s utterly senseless to me and intrusive as all get out.

Is there no union to protect the Democratic rights of on air talent?

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Rachael & I see this really differently. As in Fox’s bad habits are irrelevant to MSNBC policy. No need to take away legitimate rights (donating to the candidate you like) to ensure the appearance of impartiality. Especially from a talent (ahem) like Keith Olberman who vocalizes his preferences with nearly every syllable! It’s utterly senseless to me and intrusive as all get out.

Is there no union to protect the Democratic rights of on air talent?

It is, however, a long-standing policy of NBC News. Olbermann agreed to abide by the policy when he was hired. He broke the rules and will now be punished.

whatever… more people (and better people I bet) are reading this than watching MSNBC.

(no I don’t have a link it’s just my opinion)

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Rachael & I see this really differently. As in Fox’s bad habits are irrelevant to MSNBC policy. No need to take away legitimate rights (donating to the candidate you like) to ensure the appearance of impartiality. Especially from a talent (ahem) like Keith Olberman who vocalizes his preferences with nearly every syllable! It’s utterly senseless to me and intrusive as all get out.

Is there no union to protect the Democratic rights of on air talent?

dude signed a contract. he doesn’t like the policy, he can leave.

= democratic right.

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Rachael & I see this really differently. As in Fox’s bad habits are irrelevant to MSNBC policy. No need to take away legitimate rights (donating to the candidate you like) to ensure the appearance of impartiality. Especially from a talent (ahem) like Keith Olberman who vocalizes his preferences with nearly every syllable! It’s utterly senseless to me and intrusive as all get out.

Is there no union to protect the Democratic rights of on air talent?

RWC -
Many government employers have requirements in place that employees refrain from public political participation, including making donations; in that case, it’s done as a way to protect employees from politicians who might want to remove them from their jobs for not supporting the “right” candidates (See: Huey Long and his deduct box).

Anyhow - their policy didn’t prohibit the contributions from being made, but said the person “should” report it prior to making it. A bit squishy if you ask me, as to wording (should vs. must - two very different things).

I really can’t help but wonder if there’s something else going on we don’t know about. Just me.

re: #7 reine.de.tout

RWC -
Many government employers have requirements in place that employees refrain from public political participation, including making donations; in that case, it’s done as a way to protect employees from politicians who might want to remove them from their jobs for not supporting the “right” candidates (See: Huey Long and his deduct box).

Anyhow - their policy didn’t prohibit the contributions from being made, but said the person “should” report it prior to making it. A bit squishy if you ask me, as to wording (should vs. must - two very different things).

I really can’t help but wonder if there’s something else going on we don’t know about. Just me.

ratings perhaps?

To me, this is just another example of the rule: “all liberals have to fight with one hand tied behind their back.”

But Rachel’s central point is good: MSNBC is not the “liberal FOX.” No other news channel operates like FOX. That’s because FOX isn’t a news channel. It just plays one on TV.

good night all

Uh - just a minute. She said she understands why MSNBC has the rule in their contracts, and that other people had followed the rule, and she never said Olbermann didn’t deserve to be suspended.

She’s making a much larger point with her comparisons to Fox News — and that’s how utterly out of control Fox’s GOP cheerleading has become.

Oh, hell.
Jill Clayburgh died
I didn’t know she was ill.

re: #8 brookly red

ratings perhaps?

Who knows?

As Maddow says, the bigger story than the Olbermann contributions and suspension is the vast difference between the operation of a cable news business and a cable news business designed specifically to publicize and elect candidates from the Republican party.

re: #12 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell.
Jill Clayburgh died
I didn’t know she was ill.

Who knows?

just one more reason I don’t do TV…

re: #11 Charles

Uh - just a minute. She said she understands why MSNBC has the rule in their contracts, and that other people had followed the rule, and never said Olbermann didn’t deserve to be suspended.

She’s making a much larger point with her comparisons to Fox News — and that’s how utterly out of control Fox’s GOP cheerleading has become.

That I can agree with.

re: #8 brookly red

ratings perhaps?

But doesn’t Olberman have the highest rated show on MSNBC (and yes I know that does not mean huge ratings) or is it Maddow now?

re: #11 Charles

Uh - just a minute. She said she understands why MSNBC has the rule in tier contracts, and that other people had followed the rule, and never said Olbermann didn’t deserve to be suspended.

She’s making a much larger point with her comparisons to Fox News — and that’s how utterly out of control Fox’s GOP cheerleading has become.

I made the tu quoque as well here but I don’t think it is helping MSNBC or Olberman or even the integrity of journalism in general. Fox News just not produce journalism and does not want to. They simply want to run the Republican Party. And that’s been clear for a long time now. It’s not a very new point.

re: #12 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell.
Jill Clayburgh died
I didn’t know she was ill.

Who knows?

Sad.

re: #16 webevintage

But doesn’t Olberman have the highest rated show on MSNBC (and yes I know that does not mean huge ratings) or is it Maddow now?

I am defiantly the wrong person to ask…

re: #7 reine.de.tout

IMO. This amounts to a great case for allowing anonymous donations by individuals. That way its not “public” participation. I just have this feeling of wrongness about talking away that right. Maybe I’m wrong.

We should not have to give up that right to work somewhere.

re: #6 Aceofwhat?

Business contracts should leave participation in the process unhindered.

Oh, wait, I forgot to update you all on the breath-taking race for at-large soil & water district person in Washington County, Oregon.

It turns out you had to a. be registered 14 days in advance c. own land in the county AND receive at least one vote.

Nobody did.

So they’ll fill the position with an appointment.

Democracy has been thwarted! To arms!

re: #21 Rightwingconspirator

Business contracts should leave participation in the process unhindered.

perhaps, but they didn’t & he signed it… I am sure there will be a law suit

re: #22 EmmmieG

Oh, wait, I forgot to update you all on the breath-taking race for at-large soil & water district person in Washington County, Oregon.

It turns out you had to a. be registered 14 days in advance c. own land in the county AND receive at least one vote.

Nobody did.

So they’ll fill the position with an appointment.

Democracy has been thwarted! To arms!

Wow, cool.

I have to go clip my toenails.

Curious way for MSNBC to “take the high ground”. Fox News is a shill for the GOP/Tea Party and anything but a news service. They back the Republican/Tea party with everything including money. Is this a way to call attention to that? Or is it just infighting at MSNBC?

re: #22 EmmmieG

Oh, wait, I forgot to update you all on the breath-taking race for at-large soil & water district person in Washington County, Oregon.

It turns out you had to a. be registered 14 days in advance c. own land in the county AND receive at least one vote.

Nobody did.

So they’ll fill the position with an appointment.

Democracy has been thwarted! To arms!

Thanks. Wondering about this was keeping me up at night. :D

John Boehner tweets:

There are several steps I believe the next speaker should be prepared to take immediately. Among them: no earmarks.

We’ll wait and see.

re: #13 jaunte

As Maddow says, the bigger story than the Olbermann contributions and suspension is the vast difference between the operation of a cable news business and a cable news business designed specifically to publicize and elect candidates from the Republican party.

Calling FOX a “cable news business” is just buying into their hype. They’re no more a news network than pro wrestling is a real sport.

What “FOX News” does is the opposite of news. They do not inform; instead, they confuse. They do not report; instead, they lend legitimacy to certain cherry-picked rumors (e.g. Obamas $200M/day trip to India). They have no journalistic standards whatsoever. No fact-checking, no ombudsman, no written editorial policy. They are not journalists, and are therefore not a news organization.

They are a political propaganda arm, nothing more, nothing less.

As much as I’m annoyed at the Olbermann/Griffin tiff escalating into real consequences for viewers, Rachel (as always the voice of reason) has reminded me that this is proof that MSNBC does have real immobile standards, whether FOX does or not. If anything, this situation just highlights how awful FOX is at pretending to be a “news” network.

I think that most folks on both sides of the divide can admit that Olbermann has often gone too far in thinking that he’s the anti-FOX and let his ego get in the way of journalism. Hopefully this episode will serve as a reminder that FOX is the only purported “news” organization that isn’t actually working as a news organization. And in fact, which is the exact opposite of everything that “news” and “journalism” stand for.

You can’t win playing by their rules.

re: #24 b_sharp

Wow, cool.

I have to go clip my toenails.

Did James Otis go and clip his toenails when the Writs of Assistance were being issued?

Did John Adams clip his toenails during the trial of the Boston Massacre?

Did George Washington clip his toenails at Valley Forge. (Um, actually, it was all winter, so he probably did, but that’s not the point.)

Are you with me, patriots?

re: #20 Rightwingconspirator

IMO. This amounts to a great case for allowing anonymous donations by individuals. That way its not “public” participation. I just have this feeling of wrongness about talking away that right. Maybe I’m wrong.

We should not have to give up that right to work somewhere.

I have no issue whatsoever with anyone making a political contribution made by anyone.

That said, journalists are in a position of influence. Therefore, I believe their ought to be public disclosure. The fact that NBC required their management to be aware of contributions made by their employees is of marginal importance. If the public is not aware of the possible conflict on interest, NBC’s rule is window dressing.

CNN, FOX, MSNBC, et al, ought to make available all contributions made by their on air, news writing and editorial personalties.

It’s not rocket science.

Tonight’s Roast Troll is now being served, Come and Get It!

re: #29 EmmmieG

Did James Otis go and clip his toenails when the Writs of Assistance were being issued?

Did John Adams clip his toenails during the trial of the Boston Massacre?

Did George Washington clip his toenails at Valley Forge. (Um, actually, it was all winter, so he probably did, but that’s not the point.)

Are you with me, patriots?

I would clip mine but the people at the airport took away my clipper…

re: #27 jaunte

John Boehner tweets:

We’ll wait and see.

Doesn’t most everyone say “NO EARMARKS!” at one time or another.
This particular phrase seems to on the list of programed ones that you hear when you pull that string with the plastic loop that’s stuck in their backs.

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Tonight’s Roast Troll is now being served, Come and Get It!

you are what you eat

re: #20 Rightwingconspirator

IMO. This amounts to a great case for allowing anonymous donations by individuals. That way its not “public” …

Lucky for you the Supreme Court has almost granted corporations “individual” status! That way we can have companies blindly dumping money in, without knowing who.

*sigh* Maybe someday we can get a handle on political ads and campaigns.

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

I brought Grappa!

re: #30 researchok

I have no issue whatsoever with anyone making a political contribution made by anyone.

That said, journalists are in a position of influence. Therefore, I believe their ought to be public disclosure. The fact that NBC required their management to be aware of contributions made by their employees is of marginal importance. If the public is not aware of the possible conflict on interest, NBC’s rule is window dressing.

CNN, FOX, MSNBC, et al, ought to make available all contributions made by their on air, news writing and editorial personalties.

It’s not rocket science.

It’s not rocket surgery either.

re: #28 elbruce

What “FOX News” does is the opposite of news. They do not inform; instead, they confuse. They do not report; instead, they lend legitimacy to certain cherry-picked rumors (e.g. Obamas $200M/day trip to India). They have no journalistic standards whatsoever. No fact-checking, no ombudsman, no written editorial policy. They are not journalists, and are therefore not a news organization.

This explanation has to be made repeatedly, mostly to the people who are least likely to want to listen.

re: #33 Jadespring

Doesn’t most everyone say “NO EARMARKS!” at one time or another.
This particular phrase seems to on the list of programed ones that you hear when you pull that string with the plastic loop that’s stuck in their backs.

ehh I am still waiting for them to drain the swamp…

re: #37 b_sharp

Horticulture?

re: #35 OIFVet

That would be unlucky for me, as I disagree with that ruling. Severly. Corporations are made of and hire people they are not in and of themselves people, and therefore undeserving of the rights. People have right well above artificial entities like GM.

re: #22 EmmmieG

Oh, wait, I forgot to update you all on the breath-taking race for at-large soil & water district person in Washington County, Oregon.

It turns out you had to a. be registered 14 days in advance c. own land in the county AND receive at least one vote.

Nobody did.

So they’ll fill the position with an appointment.

Democracy has been thwarted! To arms!

The huge swath of soil & water conservation commissioner positions in Oregon is one of the weirdest electoral quirks I’ve seen anywhere. On some ballots, they take up almost all of the space, even though - really, who gives a crap about this? Shouldn’t it be an appointed position?

I actually know a guy who won one of those elections, but couldn’t take the job because he wasn’t a landowner.

re: #37 b_sharp

It’s not rocket surgery either.

or climate science…

I think the metaphor “It’s not rocket science’ needs to be updated for the 21st century. :)

re: #43 Jadespring

or climate science…

I think the metaphor “It’s not rocket science’ needs to be updated for the 21st century. :)

It’s not quantum mechanics.

re: #44 Varek Raith

It’s not quantum mechanics.

It’s not string theory.

re: #29 EmmmieG

Did James Otis go and clip his toenails when the Writs of Assistance were being issued?

Did John Adams clip his toenails during the trial of the Boston Massacre?

Did George Washington clip his toenails at Valley Forge. (Um, actually, it was all winter, so he probably did, but that’s not the point.)

Are you with me, patriots?

I’m with ya!
BUT - I’m probably the only person here right now, besides you, that even knows that such things as “soil and water districts” exist - (soil & water conservation districts they’re called, here).

re: #35 OIFVet

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

well yes that is true… but the same can be said about unions. I don’t have a problem with any group donating as long as it is disclosed.

re: #43 Jadespring

or climate science…

I think the metaphor “It’s not rocket science’ needs to be updated for the 21st century. :)

It’s not “creation science”?

re: #36 Rightwingconspirator

I brought Grappa!

Grappa? It’s been YEARS! Oh the memories though!

re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth

It’s not “creation science”?

:D

re: #42 elbruce

The huge swath of soil & water conservation commissioner positions in Oregon is one of the weirdest electoral quirks I’ve seen anywhere. On some ballots, they take up almost all of the space, even though - really, who gives a crap about this? Shouldn’t it be an appointed position?

I actually know a guy who won one of those elections, but couldn’t take the job because he wasn’t a landowner.

They’ve been trying to write in a guy at my husband’s office for years. This is how I know about the new rules.

I’m not sure why it is an elected position, although probably, you should have an elected supervisor with appointed scientific-type people.

Or my great-grandfather.

The famous story about my great-grandfather (spent his whole life as a farmer), was that when he was really old they would take two clumps of soil from the farm.

They would give one to him, and he would tell them what to amend the soil with. They would take the other to Wazzu’s labs. The report would come back the same.

Find someone like Grandad.

re: #30 researchok

I have no issue whatsoever with anyone making a political contribution made by anyone.

That said, journalists are in a position of influence. Therefore, I believe their ought to be public disclosure.

I would agree with the requirement (mentioned by Rachel) that a journalist should mention that they donated to someone if they interview or talk about them, on-air. It would be the equivalent of disclosure standards in print journalism.

FOX “News” states that they have such a standard, but apparently do nothing whatsoever to enforce it.

re: #46 reine.de.tout

I’m with ya!
BUT - I’m probably the only person here right now, besides you, that even knows that such things as “soil and water districts” exist - (soil & water conservation districts they’re called, here).

That’s what they call them here, too, but the revolutionary fervor got away with me.

re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth

“It’s irreducibly complex, but I think you’ll be amused at its presumption.”

re: #45 Jadespring

It’s not string theory.

Nor is it G-String mechanics.

Hey Dark! Do you follow the Bulls?

Noah! Yeah! I think he has the NBA record (recent at least) for consecutive double doubles! Go Gators!

re: #47 brookly red

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

well yes that is true… but the same can be said about unions. I don’t have a problem with any group donating as long as it is disclosed.

Well I think I should head off soon to sleep soon.

I first read this as ” well yes that is true… but the same can be said about unicorns….

…and found myself utterly confused for a few moments.

re: #57 Jadespring

Well I think I should head off soon to sleep soon.

I first read this as ” well yes that is true… but the same can be said about unicorns…

…and found myself utterly confused for a few moments.

With sprinkles!
Image: canned_unicorn_meat_zoom.jpg

re: #57 Jadespring

Well I think I should head off soon to sleep soon.

I first read this as ” well yes that is true… but the same can be said about unicorns…

…and found myself utterly confused for a few moments.

I need new glasses too…

re: #55 b_sharp

G chord G string, gee what’s the diff?

re: #58 Varek Raith

Well, that explains both those fey Twilight vampires and the conspicuous absence of unicorns. The bastards!

re: #58 Varek Raith

With sprinkles!
Image: canned_unicorn_meat_zoom.jpg

Rachel Maddow actually used that yesterday, regarding Republican claims of “I read it somewhere on the Internet.”

re: #58 Varek Raith

With sprinkles!
Image: canned_unicorn_meat_zoom.jpg

Unicorn meat looks like dog food? Who knew?

re: #60 Rightwingconspirator

G chord G string, gee what’s the diff?

200 bucks…

re: #45 Jadespring

It’s not string theory.

I haz ur string theoree right here.

re: #63 EmmmieG

Unicorn meat looks like dog food? Who knew?

not a speck of cereal…

re: #65 freetoken

I haz ur string theoree right here.

Image: stringtherry.jpg

re: #60 Rightwingconspirator

G chord G string, gee what’s the diff?

Sorry about that folks, RWC has been given the rest of the tequila and has had the computer declared off limits for the rest of the evening! ;-)

re: #34 brookly red

you are what you eat

ewww!

re: #68 Dragon_Lady

Sorry about that folks, RWC has been given the rest of the tequila and has had the computer declared off limits for the rest of the evening! ;-)

Good move DL.

Don’t sack him though.

re: #60 Rightwingconspirator

G chord G string, gee what’s the diff?

the chord needs a major third and a perfect fifth. The G string is just G.

re: #68 Dragon_Lady

Sorry about that folks, RWC has been given the rest of the tequila and has had the computer declared off limits for the rest of the evening! ;-)

Booooo :(

(chanting) OZZY! OZZY! OZZY! OZZY!

re: #68 Dragon_Lady

Sorry about that folks, RWC has been given the rest of the tequila and has had the computer declared off limits for the rest of the evening! ;-)

censorship!

Here’s Rachel Maddow on unicorn meat:

re: #1 Ojoe

Who?

Anne. Here, you took this picture of us in front of that bagel place before it got burned down.

….her?

re: #67 Varek Raith

Different kinds of labs.

I had an unusually high number of compliments on the odor of my pork chops tonight while grilling on the big green egg. Garlic, lemon juice, marjoram and Old Bay. 4 compliments from strangers and one even came up on the porch asking for the recipe.

re: #75 deranged cat

In that post is the germinating seed of a 1970s Woody Allen movie that somehow didn’t get made.

Night folks.

If I stay up any longer I might end up seeing an actual unicorn in my living room. My brain is shutting down…. I think it’s reached it’s reading limit for the day.

MSNBC: slightly less politicized than Fox News and moderately better at hiding it.

Way to raise the bar, guys.

Protests in downtown Oakland.

Mehserle got two years.

Now I know why I’ve been hearing nothing but sirens and multiple helicopters for the past hour. Oh shit. This is bad…now I’m hearing loud speakers and I’m well over two miles from downtown.

re: #77 Killgore Trout

You should put out a tip jar.

re: #73 brookly red

censorship!

Sense-orship you mean!

re: #80 offensive_username

MSNBC: slightly less politicized than Fox News and moderately better at hiding it.

Way to raise the bar, guys.

They do have more openly lesbian secret vampires.

re: #80 offensive_username

MSNBC: slightly less politicized than Fox News and moderately better at hiding it assuming at least some of their audience has two sparking neurons to rub together.

Fix’t

re: #80 offensive_username

See you in another 56 days?
;)

re: #52 elbruce

I would agree with the requirement (mentioned by Rachel) that a journalist should mention that they donated to someone if they interview or talk about them, on-air. It would be the equivalent of disclosure standards in print journalism.

FOX “News” states that they have such a standard, but apparently do nothing whatsoever to enforce it.

For all we know, FOX has the exact same rule as MSNBC, the difference being their employees did inform management and thus had nothing to report- and therein lies the problem.

If there is no public disclosure, of what use is the rule? I’m sure journalists at CNN, MSNBC and other networks report their contributions. This became news because Olbermann did not report his donations.

Public disclosure across the board.

re: #82 prairiefire

You should put out a tip jar.

I think it’s the bamboo fore I’ve been cooking over. There’s something about the smell. One compliment came even before the meat was on the grill.

re: #72 negativ

Booo :(

(chanting) OZZY! OZZY! OZZY! OZZY!

What the huh?

re: #80 offensive_username

Fox News Channel: Shockingly more politicized than, well, EVERYONE, and not even trying to hide it at all.

Way to shit all over the national discourse, guys.

I liked this video — what I really liked was in the end of Bill Maher’s show when he slaughters (imo) that magical balance fairy even more. It’s a good watch.

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I had an unusually high number of compliments on the odor of my pork chops tonight while grilling on the big green egg. Garlic, lemon juice, marjoram and Old Bay. 4 compliments from strangers and one even came up on the porch asking for the recipe.

In some parts of deepest darkest Brooklyn some folks still roast suckling pigs in the front yard and sell them by the pound self serve… alas I don’t eat meat but it sure smells good.

re: #81 eclectic infidel

Stay safe, EI. Stay inside if you can help it.

re: #88 Killgore Trout

fore=fire
/I stink

Later gators.

Can this happen in the USA?

Court overturns lying politician’s election win

Britain’s shadow immigration minister Phil Woolas has been ordered to forfeit his seat in Parliament after High Court judges ruled he lied during his election campaign.

The judges heard Mr Woolas ran a “risky” campaign, stirring up racial tensions in campaign leaflets by suggesting his opponent Elwyn Watkins was pandering to Muslim militants.

More here…

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

Stay safe, EI. Stay inside if you can help it.

Yes, stay safe. Lock the doors, turn off the lights.

re: #83 Dragon_Lady

Sense-orship you mean!

so you made him an offer he could not refuse?

It’s worth mentioning that since the Citizens United SCOTUS case, donating to a political cause is quite clearly a constitutionally protected right for both persons and corporate entities.

It is not legal for an employment contract to require you to give up your constitutional rights. If it were, then indentured servitude would be currently legal. Which it is not.

Olbermann might have an actionable lawsuit on this unless he gets his show back pronto. And don’t think he isn’t the kind of guy who wouldn’t go for suing MSNBC if it came down to it.

re: #92 brookly red

In some parts of deepest darkest Brooklyn some folks still roast suckling pigs in the front yard and sell them by the pound self serve… alas I don’t eat meat but it sure smells good.

I ear pig ears are especially delicious. I’ve never had them but I’m dying to try.

re: #98 brookly red

so you made him an offer he could not refuse?

If you mean after that comment I kicked him off the computer, YOU BET!

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I ear pig ears are especially delicious. I’ve never had them but I’m dying to try.

think slab bacon…

re: #96 ozbloke

Can this happen in the USA?

Court overturns lying politician’s election win

Britain’s shadow immigration minister Phil Woolas has been ordered to forfeit his seat in Parliament after High Court judges ruled he lied during his election campaign.

The judges heard Mr Woolas ran a “risky” campaign, stirring up racial tensions in campaign leaflets by suggesting his opponent Elwyn Watkins was pandering to Muslim militants.

More here…

No, it can’t happen here. The Supreme Court has ruled that you can’t overturn an election because the politician lied. Freedom of Speech, which does cover lying.

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I ear pig ears are especially delicious. I’ve never had them but I’m dying to try.

Wait, wait, wait… don’t they give pigs ears to dogs as treats? Yuck!

re: #87 researchok

For all we know, FOX has the exact same rule as MSNBC, the difference being their employees did inform management and thus had nothing to report- and therein lies the problem.

If there is no public disclosure, of what use is the rule? I’m sure journalists at CNN, MSNBC and other networks report their contributions. This became news because Olbermann did not report his donations.

Public disclosure across the board.

I refer you back to the video at top. FOX “News” stated that their rule was that anchors would state on the air whether they had donated to people they were interviewing or covering. Those anchors (shown: Hannity) did not do so. There were no repercussions whatsoever.

It would be a good rule, if it were actually enforced.

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Thanks DF…

re: #94 Killgore Trout

fore=fire
/I stink

I’ve heard many good things about the Green Egg. This KC florist was one of the first to carry it.trappandcompany.com

re: #104 Dragon_Lady

Wait, wait, wait… don’t they give pigs ears to dogs as treats? Yuck!

they are commonly sold pickled in jars…

Watching you guys banter is a lot of fun but I’ve got to hit the sack.

G’night.

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

No, it can’t happen here. The Supreme Court has ruled that you can’t overturn an election because the politician lied. Freedom of Speech, which does cover lying.

True; the vote is the vote. If you could overturn the will of the misguided people, then you don’t have democracy at all.

As an interesting aside, there has been some discussion regarding impeaching Supreme Court justices if it can be demonstrated that they lied during their confirmation hearings. Not that that’s actually going to happen, and not that it’s directly relevant, but…

From SFGate.com:

The crowd had demonstrated peacefully at City Hall until about 6:25 p.m., when it began walking southeast on 14th Street. Several in the crowd said they were headed to the Fruitvale BART station, which is about three miles from City Hall.

The station is where Mehserle fatally shot Oscar Grant, an unarmed train rider, early Jan. 1, 2009.

About 100 police officers formed a line to stop the march near Laney College at about 6:45 p.m. One protester threw a soda can at the riot-gear-clad police, and within 15 minutes, the crowd had broken through the construction fence at a nearby park and made its way past Lake Merritt.

From there, demonstrators marched along International Boulevard, and then wandered the streets until police trapped them on Sixth Avenue between East 17th and East 18th streets. As they milled about, they smashed about a dozen car windows and jumped on top of taxi cabs.

The situation turned dangerous when a protester ripped the holster and gun from a police officer’s belt, Police Chief Anthony Batts said at a news conference. The protester was swarmed by other officers and arrested.

One police officer was hit by a car - possibly a patrol car - and just past 7 p.m., Batts decided to put an end to the demonstration.

He ordered the march declared an unlawful assembly, based on the incident with the officer’s gun, and at 7:40 p.m. police began arresting people.

By then, the 300 to 500 demonstrators who had been gathered at City Hall had dwindled to about 100 people, corralled on the street in a modest residential neighborhood of apartments and houses. While the police began the arrests, some protesters fled through back yards, others banged on cars, and some lit a trash can fire.

One man confronted protesters after finding a big dent in his car, saying, “That’s justice? It’s anger.”

One protester yelled back, “I’m marching, man!”

BART closed the Fruitvale Station as the marchers headed that way, letting trains through but not letting them stop.

Read more: sfgate.com

re: #105 elbruce

I refer you back to the video at top. FOX “News” stated that their rule was that anchors would state on the air whether they had donated to people they were interviewing or covering. Those anchors (shown: Hannity) did not do so. There were no repercussions whatsoever.

It would be a good rule, if it were actually enforced.

If that rule is in writing, fire the bastard.

Other than that, I say public disclosure not just by news anchors, but by news writers.personnel and editorial staff.

If you are in a position of influence, we ought to know to whom your political contributions are made.

This sunlight also keep journalists from being pressured by politicians as well.

re: #108 brookly red

they are commonly sold pickled in jars…

Pickled pigs feet I have heard of, but there is no way you’ll every get me to eat one let alone a pigs ear! There are just some things that should never and will never cross my lips! I guess I didn’t need that desert after all….

re: #107 prairiefire

I’ve heard many good things about the Green Egg. This KC florist was one of the first to carry it.[Link: www.trappandcompany.com…]

I’m not a kitchen gadget guy and I’m very cheap but I’m very happy with my investment in a big green egg. I use it all year round and I almost never cook meat indoors anymore.

en.wikipedia.org

Just thought of checking in on our friend Art Robinson. He lost. In fact, it was a great year for Oregon incumbents, they all won. So, my neighbor to the north did not drink the tea. Thank you, Oregon.

(My apologies if this already got posted.)

re: #114 Killgore Trout

I’m not a kitchen gadget guy and I’m very cheap but I’m very happy with my investment in a big green egg. I use it all year round and I almost never cook meat indoors anymore.

meat tastes best cooked in a cave…

re: #27 jaunte

John Boehner tweets:

We’ll wait and see.

Awesome. Can’t wait. The GOP will let Federal money to their home districts dry up. That should go over well.

G’nite all.

I have important things to do.

Nobel peace prize type things.

*hides game disk behind back*

Bye.

re: #113 Dragon_Lady

Pickled pigs feet I have heard of, but there is no way you’ll every get me to eat one let alone a pigs ear! There are just some things that should never and will never cross my lips! I guess I didn’t need that desert after all…

well they are quite good… well if you eat meat in the first place.

re: #118 EmmmieG

Whatchya playin’?

We got Kitzhaber back. That’s weird.re: #115 3eff Jeff

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Just thought of checking in on our friend Art Robinson. He lost. In fact, it was a great year for Oregon incumbents, they all won. So, my neighbor to the north did not drink the tea. Thank you, Oregon.

(My apologies if this already got posted.)

Looks like we’re getting Kitzhaber back. That’s weird. Oddly, it looks like the Oregon state senate has gone about 50/50 Republican. Of course, an Oregon Republican isn’t anything like a Texas Republican, so it probably won’t mean much in the long run. Still, something to keep an eye on…

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

Whatchya playin’?

Playing games? Me?

Fox News has no political or professional ethics. Again, I’ll say that Fox News is really GOP News. Which is why they should go under FEC scrutiny.

re: #122 EmmmieG

Aw, don’t tease…

So, since Rodan decided to show his troll ass here tonight, I present a look at a forthcoming LGF/D&D Crossover:

Prince of Blogstalking is an adventure for players at level 30 or higher. IT places the players on a quest to stop Dorkus from finding the Master Hacker’s Password, a tool that would allow Dorkus to take over accounts at will and would make him able to troll with impunity. Featuring battles against the Vodka swilling “Hater Princess”, lame songs from the Butthurtmonkey, vile threats at every turn, and a chance to banish Dorkus back to the Fever Swamp for all time, Prince of Blogstalking is sure to entertain. So be on the lookout for it, and give Dorkus the spanking his asshole trolling has earned him.

re: #123 Gus 802

Fox News has no political or professional ethics. Again, I’ll say that Fox News is really GOP News. Which is why they should go under FEC scrutiny.

Hell, the total advertising value of their entire broadcasting time should be counted as a contribution to the GOP, if the FEC really wanted to go for accuracy…

re: #119 brookly red

well they are quite good… well if you eat meat in the first place.

Oh yeah, I’m a carnivore born and bred, its just something about pigs feet and all the muck they walk around in when they’re alive that gets me! I’ve seen and smelled a pig’s pen, and that’s just not something I want in my mouth!

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I ear pig ears are especially delicious. I’ve never had them but I’m dying to try.

Typo of the eve

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Prince of Blogstalking is an adventure for players at level 30 or higher. IT places the players on a quest to stop Dorkus from finding the Master Hacker’s Password, a tool that would allow Dorkus to take over accounts at will and would make him able to troll with impunity. Featuring battles against the Vodka swilling “Hater Princess”, lame songs from the Butthurtmonkey, vile threats at every turn, and a chance to banish Dorkus back to the Fever Swamp for all time, Prince of Blogstalking is sure to entertain. So be on the lookout for it, and give Dorkus the spanking his asshole trolling has earned him.

All I can do at this point is quote the great film “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back:”

Man… I don’t know what the FUCK you just said, Little Kid, but you’re special man, you reached out, and you touch a brother’s heart.

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

So, since Rodan decided to show his troll ass here tonight, I present a look at a forthcoming LGF/D&D Crossover:

Prince of Blogstalking is an adventure for players at level 30 or higher. IT places the players on a quest to stop Dorkus from finding the Master Hacker’s Password, a tool that would allow Dorkus to take over accounts at will and would make him able to troll with impunity. Featuring battles against the Vodka swilling “Hater Princess”, lame songs from the Butthurtmonkey, vile threats at every turn, and a chance to banish Dorkus back to the Fever Swamp for all time, Prince of Blogstalking is sure to entertain. So be on the lookout for it, and give Dorkus the spanking his asshole trolling has earned him.

RWC want’s to know where? When? Which topic did the troll show his head on?

re: #123 Gus 802

Fox News has no political or professional ethics. Again, I’ll say that Fox News is really GOP News. Which is why they should go under FEC scrutiny.

oh please… the FEC, yeah government controlled news works so well in the free world. If you don’t like Fox don’t watch it… personally I don’t watch any TV yeah like that.

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

That was Rodan? Must not have had his wheaties this morning.

re: #1 Ojoe

As usual, you got nothing.

Maybe you should hold off on the comments and just give us links to sunsets.

re: #128 Stanley Sea

I can’t ‘ear you, I’m ‘armless.

re: #133 palomino

As usual, you got nothing.

Maybe you should hold off on the comments and just give us links to sunsets.

you waited 132 comments for that?

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

Different kinds of labs.

A bunch of years ago, a huge black lab - a stray - somehow decided he was going to move into my house. Quite literally, I came home from work one day to find this amazingly filthy and mud-caked beast sitting in front of my door. He just sat there like he owned the place. Long story shorter, he kept hanging around like he really thought he belonged there, and after 2 or 3 days of this, the ex and I decided we might as well bring him into the fold.

It turned out to be a good decision. He had his flaws, but he was a remarkably easy dog to train and deal with, especially considering that we acquired him as an adult stray. My brother-in-law at the time had a truly unmanageable jackass 4 year-old kid, and the kid’s parents being the idiots they were, he was allowed to torment my dogs without supervision at all times. I can’t count the number of times that kid performed every action that should have resulted in a mauling: pestering the dog while it’s asleep, screwing around with its food bowl during dinner time, bludgeoning the dog with plastic Fischer-Price toys, etc. Yet this weird black lab endured all of that stoically and without malice. If the kid had done any of that to me, I would probably have backhanded him.

re: #123 Gus 802

Fox News has no political or professional ethics. Again, I’ll say that Fox News is really GOP News. Which is why they should go under FEC scrutiny.

You really want the government regulating the first amendment rights of the news media? FOX makes no bones about what their doing and neither do any of the other stations, I for one could care less about the shameless plugs! We have to live with the crap that all the TV and cable stations put out, and its up to us to either listen if we want to or turn off the slop if we don’t want to. I do not want big brother telling me or anyone else what we can and cannot listen to!

re: #92 brookly red

In some parts of deepest darkest Brooklyn some folks still roast suckling pigs in the front yard and sell them by the pound self serve… alas I don’t eat meat but it sure smells good.

There is nothing, nothing, as good as a suckling pig done over the coals. The process, the tradition, the fricking succulent taste.

I grew up in Florida with some sweet neighbors. Ahhh memories. It probably will never happen again.

re: #131 brookly red

oh please… the FEC, yeah government controlled news works so well in the free world. If you don’t like Fox don’t watch it… personally I don’t watch any TV yeah like that.

Looks like payed political advertising to me.

In the end this shows that MSNBC is on higher ethical ground then Fox News.

re: #123 Gus 802

Fox News has no political or professional ethics. Again, I’ll say that Fox News is really GOP News. Which is why they should go under FEC scrutiny.

Gus-

A quick search indicates that Hannity- like Maddow- is not a news anchor, but rather a show host.

Therein lies a big part of the problem. The lines between news and entertainment has become more and more blurred. Keith Olbermann is a host, not a news anchor.

On the other hand, all these cable networks do have real journalists and news anchors. Brit Hume is not Hannity and Brian Williams is not Olbermann. Because they are both featured on news networks the lines are further blurred.

That in no way excuses what is a clear FOX tilt, but it does blur the line.

Entertainment can’t be measured in the same way news can.

How to fix it, save for a scroll at the bottom of the screen, I don’t know.

re: #137 Dragon_Lady

You really want the government regulating the first amendment rights of the news media? FOX makes no bones about what their doing and neither do any of the other stations, I for one could care less about the shameless plugs! We have to live with the crap that all the TV and cable stations put out, and its up to us to either listen if we want to or turn off the slop if we don’t want to. I do not want big brother telling me or anyone else what we can and cannot listen to!

right fuckin on.

OK Go, “White Knuckles”:

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw, don’t tease…

I’m about to disappoint you.

Just a simple adventure game.

I like playing games that my kids can play, too.

re: #132 Rightwingconspirator

That was Rodan? Must not have had his wheaties this morning.

He was Lisette. Charles said the troll was from Florida, and that almost always means Rodan. He’s always trying to sneak in here and spew. Then Charles catches him, boots him, and leaves him more Butthurt than ever before.

And with that, good night. For real.

re: #139 Gus 802

Looks like payed political advertising to me.

In the end this shows that MSNBC is on higher ethical ground then Fox News.

in the end you still are watching the boob tube, and it shows.

re: #89 Dragon_Lady

What the huh?

Quite the dud, I realize.

In your universe, the tequila-soaked person has been banned from the computer. In another reality, the tequila-soaked person is a rock star stumbling around backstage while the audience demands an encore.

Never mind.

re: #137 Dragon_Lady

You really want the government regulating the first amendment rights of the news media? FOX makes no bones about what their doing and neither do any of the other stations, I for one could care less about the shameless plugs! We have to live with the crap that all the TV and cable stations put out, and its up to us to either listen if we want to or turn off the slop if we don’t want to. I do not want big brother telling me or anyone else what we can and cannot listen to!

Post Wing means less TV politics, no pundits, and a wary eye 24/7.

Fox News: The GOP Channel

re: #138 Stanley Sea

There is nothing, nothing, as good as a suckling pig done over the coals. The process, the tradition, the fricking succulent taste.

I grew up in Florida with some sweet neighbors. Ahhh memories. It probably will never happen again.

well I would invite you to Brooklyn, but, well you know…

re: #146 brookly red

in the end you still are watching the boob tube, and it shows.

Oh, I see. You want to insult me? Whatever redneck.

re: #147 negativ

Quite the dud, I realize.

In your universe, the tequila-soaked person has been banned from the computer. In another reality, the tequila-soaked person is a rock star stumbling around backstage while the audience demands an encore.

Never mind.

Well I spoke , uh typed too soon! He went and found the laptop. Oh well, I tried… *sigh*

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Thx. I was unaware of the geo reference. So mild mannered though… Unlike another occasion when we had a few words.

re: #152 Dragon_Lady

re: #153 Rightwingconspirator

Ha!!!

re: #148 Rightwingconspirator

Post Wing means less TV politics, no pundits, and a wary eye 24/7.

You sneak!

re: #142 prairiefire

OK Go, “White Knuckles”:

[Video]

Liked it. Thanks.

OT: I just got into a conversation with a tea partier. There are competing protests every Fri. afternoon at the intersection of Ventura Blvd and Laurel Canyon here in LA. I bumped into the guy and we struck up a conversation.

I don’t where these folks get their info. A few of his claims:

1) 35% of tea partiers self-identify as Democrats.

2) Obama wants to “collectivize” everyone’s 401k.

3) Even if AIG, GM and BofA had all collapsed, we would be better off if we hadn’t had TARP, bailouts, stimulus. Unemployment? Credit? Stock market? Consumer confidence? None of these would have been a problem because, again, the rest of the economy would have “absorbed” these losses. I know many economists have disagreed with both Bush and Obama, but does anyone know of a serious economist who believes this?

re: #136 negativ

You are truly a kind soul. I’m not much of an animal rights person, but I don’t tolerate that kind of crap. I get that from my late grandpa. The little old dude caught a few big teens throwing rocks at his dog, confronted the largest of the trio and knocked him right the fuck out.

re: #151 Gus 802

Oh, I see. You want to insult me? Whatever redneck.

no you do that just fine yourself… but thank you for the redneck comment as a NYC democratic Jew it makes me feel so macho…

re: #157 palomino

Ron Paul!

re: #143 EmmmieG

Aw, am I gonna hafta beg?

re: #155 Stanley Sea

You bet. Actually I set aside the Tequila in favor of a 4/20 indulgence as suits leaving a frustrating week behind.

re: #157 palomino

Hey, to answer your earlier question, I do not know what the heck is going on at NBC.
Think Progress says this:thinkprogress.org

re: #157 palomino

I have got to go and video that…

re: #159 brookly red

no you do that just fine yourself… but thank you for the redneck comment as a NYC democratic Jew it makes me feel so macho…

Screw you. You want to call me a boob when I was keeping personalities out of it.

re: #161 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw, am I gonna hafta beg?

you just did…

re: #159 brookly red

If you don’t watch Fox News, why do you comment on it? Do you also review books you’ve never read?

re: #155 Stanley Sea

You sneak!

He kinda reminds me of the night before Xmas, you know the little kid who sneaks down the stairs and shakes his presents? *shakes her head and sighs*

re: #160 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul!

That part made it even stranger. The guy hated Ron Paul (but was silent about Rand). He called libertarians “anarchists with neckties.” But he seems to agree with the Ron Paul crowd on a lot, even if he wouldn’t admit it.

Do you know of any serious economists who believe we’d be better off if three of our five largest corporations had gone under?

re: #163 prairiefire

I mean in regards to Keith Olbermann.

re: #166 brookly red

That ain’t begging. That’s fore-play to begging. Fore-beg.

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

You are truly a kind soul. I’m not much of an animal rights person, but I don’t tolerate that kind of crap. I get that from my late grandpa. The little old dude caught a few big teens throwing rocks at his dog, confronted the largest of the trio and knocked him right the fuck out.

Go Gramps! I love that kind of person! You come from good stock S.B.!

re: #169 palomino

I liked the libertarians better when they were just Republicans that wanted to get high.

re: #159 brookly red

no you do that just fine yourself… but thank you for the redneck comment as a NYC democratic Jew it makes me feel so macho…

re: #165 Gus 802

Screw you. You want to call me a boob when I was keeping personalities out of it.

oh please spare me, you were the one who called me a redneck & downding everything I say… and now you stepped in shit and somehow that is my fault? please.

re: #157 palomino

OT: I just got into a conversation with a tea partier. There are competing protests every Fri. afternoon at the intersection of Ventura Blvd and Laurel Canyon here in LA. I bumped into the guy and we struck up a conversation.

I don’t where these folks get their info. A few of his claims:

1) 35% of tea partiers self-identify as Democrats.

2) Obama wants to “collectivize” everyone’s 401k.

3) Even if AIG, GM and BofA had all collapsed, we would be better off if we hadn’t had TARP, bailouts, stimulus. Unemployment? Credit? Stock market? Consumer confidence? None of these would have been a problem because, again, the rest of the economy would have “absorbed” these losses. I know many economists have disagreed with both Bush and Obama, but does anyone know of a serious economist who believes this?

The 401K thingy = Limbaugh today

re: #160 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul!

You know not what you ask!

The stars are out of alignment.

No one is beating up on me.

re: #175 brookly red

oh please spare me, you were the one who called me a redneck & downding everything I say… and now you stepped in shit and somehow that is my fault? please.

Check genius. I didn’t down ding anything you said here and have been basically ignoring you for the past month — for the most part. Paranoid much?

re: #175 brookly red

oh please spare me, you were the one who called me a redneck & downding everything I say… and now you stepped in shit and somehow that is my fault? please.

And I don’t down ding you because I feel sorry for you.

re: #167 alpuz

If you don’t watch Fox News, why do you comment on it? Do you also review books you’ve never read?

Nice try… but I didn’t comment on it, so go fish?

re: #178 researchok

The stars are out of alignment.

No one is beating up on me.

“When you go back out there I want you to hit the pace car.”

“Hit the pace car?!?”

“You’ve hit everything else on four wheels, I want you to be perfect.”

re: #175 brookly red

oh please spare me, you were the one who called me a redneck & downding everything I say… and now you stepped in shit and somehow that is my fault? please.

I think this is where you can just *GAZE* him B.R., name calling is just another form of bullying and if he wants to call you names just ignore him.

Benny

re: #182 SteveC

“When you go back out there I want you to hit the pace car.”

“Hit the pace car?!?”

“You’ve hit everything else on four wheels, I want you to be perfect.”

LOL- that was good!

re: #181 brookly red

‘in the end you still are watching the boob tube, and it shows.’

What do you mean by this?

re: #183 Dragon_Lady

I think this is where you can just *GAZE* him B.R., name calling is just another form of bullying and if he wants to call you names just ignore him.

Really? You must not have been reading. He’s the creep that called me boob.

re: #184 Gus 802

Benny

… and the Jets?

Must be the late night wingnut hour.

re: #183 Dragon_Lady

I think this is where you can just *GAZE* him B.R., name calling is just another form of bullying and if he wants to call you names just ignore him.

yeah but he called me redneck… it kinda turned me on if you know what I mean ;)

re: #172 Dragon_Lady

Go Gramps! I love that kind of person! You come from good stock S.B.!

Maybe. Gramps was a truly hard core, mean SOB. Loved to brawl, and had the kind of rep that drew many challengers. No victors, but many challengers. Had quite a cruel streak, but was nothing but nice to his grand-kids.

I loved him, even if everyone else in the family hated his guts. I was the only one to cry at his viewing. Some even made snide remarks.

re: #186 alpuz

‘in the end you still are watching the boob tube, and it shows.’

What do you mean by this?

if your looking for street cred you came to the wrong place…

omg

re: #163 prairiefire

Hey, to answer your earlier question, I do not know what the heck is going on at NBC.
Think Progress says this:[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

Makes sense that the Comcast merger may have something to do with it. It is a huge merger, both in a financial and media sense.

At least this whole episode is blowing the top off the idea that only Olbermann donates to candidates.

A member of CAIR is suing the state of Oklahoma over its sharia law ban.

re: #178 researchok

The stars are out of alignment.

No one is beating up on me.

Fuck. You.
/

re: #192 brookly red

Got it, thanks.

re: #190 brookly red

yeah but he called me redneck… it kinda turned me on if you know what I mean ;)

Yeah. You’re right. My mistake.

WINGNUT

re: #196 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuck. You.
/

The stars are back in alignment.

re: #187 Gus 802

Really? You must not have been reading. He’s the creep that called me boob.

no I called TV the boobtube… I would never call you a boob. I like boobs after all.

re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth

I have a couple of grandfathers that were great to me, but my mom and dad’s family said “well, he had mellowed by the time you were born.”
You mourned him, that was probably enough to rest his soul.

re: #195 Max D. Reinhardt

A member of CAIR is suing the state of Oklahoma over its sharia law ban.

what a surprise.

re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth

Maybe. Gramps was a truly hard core, mean SOB. Loved to brawl, and had the kind of rep that drew many challengers. No victors, but many challengers. Had quite a cruel streak, but was nothing but nice to his grand-kids.

I loved him, even if everyone else in the family hated his guts. I was the only one to cry at his viewing. Some even made snide remarks.

If they couldn’t see what that tough exterior hid that’s their problem. Smart people see underneath and see the real person, I personally think you’re one of the smartest people around.

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

I liked the libertarians better when they were just Republicans that wanted to get high.

Couldn’t agree more (even if it does sound like something Bill Maher would say).

re: #198 Gus 802

Yeah. You’re right. My mistake.

WINGNUT

John Dickinson: Are you calling me a coward?
John Adams: Yes… coward!
John Dickinson: Madman!
John Adams: Landlord!
John Dickinson: LAWYER!

(Riot breaks out)

re: #195 Max D. Reinhardt

A member of CAIR is suing the state of Oklahoma over its sharia law ban.

THE ISLAMISTS ARE USING LAWFARE!! ANY LAWYER WHO REPRESENTS THEM IS A TRAITOR!!1 WE MUST PUT ANY SUCH LAWYER TO DEATH!!!1

/Pam “Shrieky” Geller

I’ll be glad when things return back to normal, after the weekend.

Election week takes a toll.

re: #176 Stanley Sea

The 401K thingy = Limbaugh today

I asked the guy what this new scary govt program was called. Of course he “forgot” but promised to email me. Can’t wait to get a link to Limbaugh.

re: #190 brookly red

yeah but he called me redneck… it kinda turned me on if you know what I mean ;)

OMG! LOL! Don’t quite know what to say to that…except whatever floats your boat I guess.

re: #208 palomino

I asked the guy what this new scary govt program was called. Of course he “forgot” but promised to email me. Can’t wait to get a link to Limbaugh.

you could just go to his site…

re: #207 researchok

I’ll be glad when things return back to normal, after the weekend.

Election week takes a toll.

Don’t you mean makes a bunch of trolls? ;)

re: #210 brookly red

you could just go to his site…

Maybe he/she does not want to pay money to get the subscription site.

re: #157 palomino

OT: I just got into a conversation with a tea partier. There are competing protests every Fri. afternoon at the intersection of Ventura Blvd and Laurel Canyon here in LA. I bumped into the guy and we struck up a conversation.

If only Frank Zappa were still alive. :(

re: #207 researchok

I’ll be glad when things return back to normal, after the weekend.

Election week takes a toll.

True That.

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

THE ISLAMISTS ARE USING LAWFARE!! ANY LAWYER WHO REPRESENTS THEM IS A TRAITOR!!1 WE MUST PUT ANY SUCH LAWYER TO DEATH!!!1

/Pam “Shrieky” Geller

Oh my God…. LAWFARE!

/Women and children to the shelters, man your battle stations!

re: #201 prairiefire

I have a couple of grandfathers that were great to me, but my mom and dad’s family said “well, he had mellowed by the time you were born.”
You mourned him, that was probably enough to rest his soul.

Nicely said!

re: #201 prairiefire

Oh, he never mellowed. He was just real nice to us grand-kids for some reason.

re: #203 Dragon_Lady

I can’t sugar coat it, DL. My grandpa was a hard, hard man. He didn’t treat people very well.

re: #212 prairiefire

Maybe he/she does not want to pay money to get the subscription site.

it is free

re: #195 Max D. Reinhardt

A member of CAIR is suing the state of Oklahoma over its sharia law ban.

How do you ban something that doesn’t even exist? And that really has no chance of ever existing.

re: #23 brookly red

Just maybe this contract will be held unenforceable on grounds of 1st amendment rights. Alas really mere wishful thinking. The self declared champions of progressive Democracy eat their own for participating. And a pundit at that. Not a news guy.

It’s like firing Jon Stewart for sending a few jokes to another comedian that got a better gig and needed another good line.

re: #218 brookly red

it is free

communist./

re: #90 Slumbering Behemoth

The suspension is ridiculous from the perspective of Olbermann being punished for crossing a line journalists shouldn’t cross. His speech promotes his cause far more than his money did.

It only makes sense as punishment for violating an arbitrary policy.

Maddow’s point at the end of the segment was vacuous because this affair was not an example of upholding standards to keep journalism unbiased. MSNBC’s slogan could be: “Still pretending to be news, unlike those bastards at Fox!”

I give them credit for bending the truth and omitting facts less than Fox does. I give them credit for lying much less. I give them credit for treating their audience as if it takes arguments to mold their political opinions, rather than mere shouting as on Fox.

I give my dog credit for pooping on the rug only when he is mad at me, unlike my other dog who literally can’t hold it for very long and needs to be taken out all the time.

Credit where credit is due. But no more than that.

re: #219 palomino

How do you ban something that doesn’t even exist? And that really has no chance of ever existing.

It’s already been preemptively banned… by the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

re: #210 brookly red

you could just go to his site…

Why would I go to Limbaugh’s site of my own volition? I’ve seen and heard enough of his Fatness over the last two decades. Nothing more necessary.

re: #222 offensive_username

The suspension is ridiculous from the perspective of Olbermann being punished for crossing a line journalists shouldn’t cross. His speech promotes his cause far more than his money did.

It only makes sense as punishment for violating an arbitrary policy.

Maddow’s point at the end of the segment was vacuous because this affair was not an example of upholding standards to keep journalism unbiased. MSNBC’s slogan could be: “Still pretending to be news, unlike those bastards at Fox!”

I give them credit for bending the truth and omitting facts less than Fox does. I give them credit for lying much less. I give them credit for treating their audience as if it takes arguments to mold their political opinions, rather than mere shouting as on Fox.

I give my dog credit for pooping on the rug only when he is mad at me, unlike my other dog who literally can’t hold it for very long and needs to be taken out all the time.

Credit where credit is due. But no more than that.

Looking to make friends?
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re: #204 palomino

LOL and ouch. :-)

Anti vax prick he is.

re: #224 palomino

Why would I go to Limbaugh’s site of my own volition? I’ve seen and heard enough of his Fatness over the last two decades. Nothing more necessary.

I don’t know, you wanted a link ?

re: #187 Gus 802

Really? You must not have been reading. He’s the creep that called me boob.

Hey, you should be flattered! There are a lot worse parts of the anatomy he/she could have called you! At least boobs are attractive to most people! ;)

re: #213 negativ

If only Frank Zappa were still alive. :(

Yes, it’s that Valley, the beautiful San Fernando one. Yesterday it was 95 here, hotter than almost any day we had back in July/August. I guess that means AGW is a hoax.

re: #228 Dragon_Lady

Hey, you should be flattered! There are a lot worse parts of the anatomy he/she could have called you! At least boobs are attractive to most people! ;)

You have a point. That said, as much as I like Gus, I could never look at him in that way.

Ever.

re: #223 Max D. Reinhardt

It’s already been preemptively banned… by the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

OK, so it’s already constitutionally forbidden. And it doesn’t exist anywhere in Oklahoma. So it’s double massive overkill by the Okie legislature.

re: #219 palomino

How do you ban something that doesn’t even exist? And that really has no chance of ever existing.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. You gather a group of middle-aged, middle-class, middle-income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family and American values and character. And wave an old photo of the President’s girlfriend and you scream about patriotism and you tell them, she’s to blame for their lot in life, and you go on television and you call her a whore. - Andrew Shepard

re: #220 Rightwingconspirator

Just maybe this contract will be held unenforceable on grounds of 1st amendment rights. Alas really mere wishful thinking. The self declared champions of progressive Democracy eat their own for participating. And a pundit at that. Not a news guy.

It’s like firing Jon Stewart for sending a few jokes to another comedian that got a better gig and needed another good line.

Lenny Bruce is not afraid! :)

re: #226 Rightwingconspirator

LOL and ouch. :-)

Anti vax prick he is.

I actually agree with Maher on a lot, but then he goes all anti-vax or pro-Ron Paul and he completely loses me.

re: #229 palomino

Yes, it’s that Valley, the beautiful San Fernando one. Yesterday it was 95 here, hotter than almost any day we had back in July/August. I guess that means AGW is a hoax.

It hit 101 in Studio City and North Hollywood. I’m seeing my Ficus trees drop an awful lot of leaves and usually that means were in for some really cold weather this winter! Ficus trees don’t go dormant like a lot of other deciduous trees do and I’m see a lot of those dropping their leaves even though its over 90 outside! Hint, hint! Get your sweater and jackets out folks!

re: #233 brookly red

Lenny Bruce is not afraid! :)

It’s the End of the World, As We Know It.

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

It’s the End of the World, As We Know It.

and I feel fine…

re: #227 brookly red

I don’t know, you wanted a link ?

No, I was saying that the misinformed tea partier I talked to earlier (who claimed that Obama was on the verge of “collectivizing” our 401k’s) will probably just be sending me a link to Limbaugh. That’s unlikely to convince me that the tea party guy was right.

re: #234 palomino

I actually agree with Maher on a lot, but then he goes all anti-vax or pro-Ron Paul and he completely loses me.

I think he’s got enough crazy in him that he is drawn to Paul. It’s called “crank magnetism”.

Simmer….
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re: #240 researchok

Bite. Me.
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re: #235 Dragon_Lady

Get your sweater and jackets out folks!

One side effect of my heart problems is my body can’t regulate its own temperature very well. It has been in the 60’s here and I feel like I’m freezing!

re: #234 palomino

I gave up on all the pundits, opinioneers on TV. I fail to feel the need for these AP/Reuters/? English to CNN/ MSNBC/FOX/? English translators.

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, he never mellowed. He was just real nice to us grand-kids for some reason.

re: #203 Dragon_Lady

I can’t sugar coat it, DL. My grandpa was a hard, hard man. He didn’t treat people very well.

But you have your memories and that’s what counts. Cherish the good ones he obviously loved you and that’s what counts.

re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth

Bite. Me.
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You’re not my type either.
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BRB

re: #242 SteveC

One side effect of my heart problems is my body can’t regulate its own temperature very well. It has been in the 60’s here and I feel like I’m freezing!

Ooooh that sucks! I’m sorry to hear that, {{SteveC}}

re: #245 researchok

You’re not my type either.
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Yeah, but right now I’m all you got. :P

re: #232 SteveC

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. You gather a group of middle-aged, middle-class, middle-income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family and American values and character. And wave an old photo of the President’s girlfriend and you scream about patriotism and you tell them, she’s to blame for their lot in life, and you go on television and you call her a whore. - Andrew Shepard

Funny thing, my Mom and Dad voted for Obama. But they still identify with a lot of this cultural shit that you ably and rightfully mock. Like making English (or Amerikun) the official US language.

Actually my Mom did the voting for herself and my father. He has Alzheimer’s so isn’t really capable of filling out the absentee form. I would guess this is pretty common with older couples. But I’m ashamed to think that my mother was involved in ACORN/Black Panther type voter fraud.

re: #235 Dragon_Lady

It hit 101 in Studio City and North Hollywood. I’m seeing my Ficus trees drop an awful lot of leaves and usually that means were in for some really cold weather this winter! Ficus trees don’t go dormant like a lot of other deciduous trees do and I’m see a lot of those dropping their leaves even though its over 90 outside! Hint, hint! Get your sweater and jackets out folks!

That’s even hotter than I thought. I live in Studio City. We’re lucky—35 degrees is extreme cold here.

re: #250 palomino

That’s even hotter than I thought. I live in Studio City. We’re lucky—35 degrees is extreme cold here.

You live close by! Howdy neighbor!