They call it Boxing Day because mothers in law start fights on the day after Christmas :-)

How disgusting to see Israellycool promoting European fascists Filip DeWinter and Heinz-Christian Strache. I thought he was keeping his head on straight, but apparently the sickness is everywhere on the right.

I'm removing his blog from our RSS feeds -- I will not link to people who promote neo-Nazis and fascists.

Charles, are the posts promoting those figures on the front page? I can't see them, but I'm not particularly familiar with Israellycool.

It's a case study in how mindless fear turns people really, really stupid. Pro-Israel Zionists promoting people who have direct ties to Nazis. What the hell is wrong with these people?

re: #4 Charles

Most unbelievable 'alliance' I could ever think of...

re: #4 Charles

What the hell is wrong with these people?

They're afraid to be called "jewdicidal" by the Shrieking Harpy.

re: #6 000G

She could call me all that and more and it wouldn't make me any less wrong for choosing not to associate or support those folks. I wont associate with Neo Nazis even if they are temporarily supporting Israel over the Islamists, because their worldview is still odious.

re: #2 Charles

How disgusting to see Israellycool promoting European fascists Filip DeWinter and Heinz-Christian Strache. I thought he was keeping his head on straight, but apparently the sickness is everywhere on the right.

I'm removing his blog from our RSS feeds -- I will not link to people who promote neo-Nazis and fascists.

Troubling.

re: #7 lawhawk

She could call me all that and more and it wouldn't make me any less wrong for choosing not to associate or support those folks. I wont associate with Neo Nazis even if they are temporarily supporting Israel over the Islamists, because their worldview is still odious.

I get that. Sometimes, though, members of minorities display what I would call "Stockholm syndrom for minorities", wherein they defend the majorities or their members or ideologies that actually are hostile to the minorities in question. A prominent example of this was the Weimar Germany League of National-German Jews ("Verband Nationaldeutscher Juden").

I'm starting to feel like Kevin McCarthy in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."

Strache is one of the most disgusting political figures in Europe. He rose to sudden fame in right wing blogs after a speech, in which he railed against Islam and the Turks in Austrian parliament.

He had ties to the Neo Nazi Viking Youth, to the Neo Nazi DVU party and is probably the most xenophobic politician in Austria.

Those right wingers often pretend to be friends of Israel, and unfortunately some get fooled by those token declarations.

In the comments to the article in question on Israellycool, this blew my mind and upset me (as a dual citizen):

I was with this group in Ashkelon and Jerusalem. They are very fine people. They are also anti Nazi. It is very important for Jewish groups to join with them in the fight against all Muslim Brotherhood groups.
Thanks,
Meir Weinstein
National Director, Jewish Defence League of Canada

Maybe I am just confused, and by 'group' she is not referring to the German Freedom Party and Vlaams Belang?

re: #12 Alexzander

Maybe I am just confused, and by 'group' she is not referring to the German Freedom Party and Vlaams Belang?

That's exactly who he's talking about.

But note that the Jewish Defense League is a Kahanist group, so in a way it's not surprising to see them hooking up with fascists.

re: #12 Alexzander

In the comments to the article in question on Israellycool, this blew my mind and upset me (as a dual citizen):

Maybe I am just confused, and by 'group' she is not referring to the German Freedom Party and Vlaams Belang?

The Sweden Democrats were there too. Some really nasty folks.

re: #4 Charles

It's a case study in how mindless fear turns people really, really stupid. Pro-Israel Zionists promoting people who have direct ties to Nazis. What the hell is wrong with these people?

Has to do with the 'Bunker Mentality'.

As the anti Israel PR campaign flows (and it will eventually ebb) there are those who willingly blind themselves to the reality of their new friends really are. It stems mostly from a misplaced sense of panic/abandonment.

As you pointed out the other day, writers like Glick and Rubin exploit this sentiment and gradually lead the willing down the garden path of their making.

I knew Rubin was flirting with that. I did not know Glick had long since surpassed him until you pointed that out.

In any event, the phenomena is not new. It is not unlike the abused becoming the abuser. The vilification and condemnation so prevalent has been foisted on Israelis for decades. We have been immunized to the ugliness and worse, there are those who do not even realize they are becoming what they hate.

Ughhh.. Oh and I should make a correction; Meir Weinstein is a man (thanks Wikipedia).

78 English Defence League fanatics claim whiplash injuries...but only 25 were coach

re: #16 researchok

Has to do with the 'Bunker Mentality'.

As the anti Israel PR campaign flows (and it will eventually ebb) there are those who willingly blind themselves to the reality of their new friends really are. It stems mostly from a misplaced sense of panic/abandonment.

As you pointed out the other day, writers like Glick and Rubin exploit this sentiment and gradually lead the willing down the garden path of their making.

I knew Rubin was flirting with that. I did not know Glick had long since surpassed him until you pointed that out.

In any event, the phenomena is not new. It is not unlike the abused becoming the abuser. The vilification and condemnation so prevalent has been foisted on Israelis for decades. We have been immunized to the ugliness and worse, there are those who do not even realize they are becoming what they hate.

Agreed. After being attacked for years with no end in sight, some people will look for someone, anyone, who is willing to be nice to them and call them friend.

Touchdown Chicago! Cutler to Knox on the first play after the Bears stop a fake kick. Game tied: Bears 24, Jets 24.

I read the thread on FR regarding the First Lady answering calls for NORAD from kids wanting to know were Santa was........

How in the hell do these commenters equate this to some kind of political issue?....... Was my head in the sand or were people that ruthless toward Laura Bush during GW's term, and I just missed it?...... I recall no one making comments about Laura's looks, or her body parts.

My God its Christmas and she spent a little time making some little kids smile.

re: #21 dmon

I read the thread on FR regarding the First Lady answering calls for NORAD from kids wanting to know were Santa was...

How in the hell do these commenters equate this to some kind of political issue?... Was my head in the sand or were people that ruthless toward Laura Bush during GW's term, and I just missed it?... I recall no one making comments about Laura's looks, or her body parts.

My God its Christmas and she spent a little time making some little kids smile.

It's ODS at work. There are some on the right who regard Michelle Obama as evil and see attacking whenever possible as a moral imperative.

re: #21 dmon

I read the thread on FR regarding the First Lady answering calls for NORAD from kids wanting to know were Santa was...

How in the hell do these commenters equate this to some kind of political issue?... Was my head in the sand or were people that ruthless toward Laura Bush during GW's term, and I just missed it?... I recall no one making comments about Laura's looks, or her body parts.

My God its Christmas and she spent a little time making some little kids smile.

a lot of posters here have commented on MO looks and attire etc....and also many comments about Palin....lots of them

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

It's ODS at work. There are some on the right who regard Michelle Obama as evil and see attacking whenever possible as a moral imperative.

yikes!....I must have missed that stuff...but I don't read other blogs....moral imperative?

re: #21 dmon

I read the thread on FR regarding the First Lady answering calls for NORAD from kids wanting to know were Santa was...

How in the hell do these commenters equate this to some kind of political issue?... Was my head in the sand or were people that ruthless toward Laura Bush during GW's term, and I just missed it?... I recall no one making comments about Laura's looks, or her body parts.

My God its Christmas and she spent a little time making some little kids smile.

Those people are racist fucks.

Happy Sunday everyone.

re: #23 albusteve

Palin ran for VPOTUS, when you run for office you open yourself to criticim........ the family of a politician should be off limits, criticie Palin but leave her family out of it.

MO ran for nothing.

re: #26 dmon

Palin ran for VPOTUS, when you run for office you open yourself to criticism... the family of a politician should be off limits, criticise Palin but leave her family out of it.

MO ran for nothing.

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Touchdown Chicago! Cutler to Knox on the first play after the Bears stop a fake kick. Game tied: Bears 24, Jets 24.

Bears up seven...Cutler to Hester.

re: #28 Taqyia2Me

Bears up seven...Cutler to Hester.

Devon for Seven

re: #28 Taqyia2Me

Bears up seven...Cutler to Hester.

if Cutler gets real hot, he can be very dangerous....how in the world Denver fuck up that deal?

re: #30 albusteve

if Cutler gets real hot, he can be very dangerous...how in the world Denver fuck up that deal?

It looks more and more like it was due to that now ex-coach, McDaniel I think is the name...

re: #30 albusteve

if Cutler gets real hot, he can be very dangerous...how in the world Denver fuck up that deal?

They thought they could use the draft picks, and they thought Kyle Orton would step up.

Jets just scored to bring it back to a 31-31 tie.

re: #10 Charles

I'm starting to feel like Kevin McCarthy in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."

I've been thinking that for a long time. Many of my friends and even family members have various forms of The Disease. To fight against it is to suffer them grouping upon me to eat my BWAINZ!

re: #31 Taqyia2Me

It looks more and more like it was due to that now ex-coach, McDaniel I think is the name...

I know the story....it was the beginning of their disastrous meltdown....unbelievable

re: #33 BigPapa

What do they say about President Obama being from HI?

And Hester gets yet another 40 yard return. Gives the Bears excellent field position.

re: #35 prairiefire

What do they say about President Obama being from HI?

If they even believe he was born in Hawaii.

(Rotten Birtherism)

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

And Hester gets yet another 40 yard return. Gives the Bears excellent field position.

he's gonna shatter the return record for a hundred years....look up his numbers, it's just sick

Cutler to Knox Again! 26 yard TD pass gives the Bears the lead again. What a shootout this game is.

Greetings... it's snowing hard in NYC.

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Ain't seein' much D in Chi-town today...

Here's some Sunday Snot Air for you guys. This is a discussion about those dastardly death panels that our pal Palin was promotin' and pushin' against.

1.) That’s why all this talk about Obama’s poll numbers misses the point. He is setting his framework in place for generations of rule by Soviet-style apparatchiks.

He doesn’t care. He’s winning.

PattyJ

2.) How Orwellian. Death by gubmit. Death panels and death ‘counselors’.

This is just the opening gambit of a strategy Obama will use throughout the coming year in order to achieve through regulation what a Democrat-run Congress could not deliver through legislation.

Sharpen the pitchforks.

petefrt

3.) By any means necessary. — Malcom X

itsnotaboutme

4.) I wonder when the military will finally realize they need to protect the Constitution.

darwin

5.) How soon until Obama asks for and receives the dictatorial powers that his buddy Hugo Chávez has? It would only be for a year. What could possibly go wrong?

Tommy_G

6.) It’s Palin in 2012 or we’re finished. That simple. Only she understands. Only she has the balls to take him on. None of the rest do. It’s a congenital failing. They don’t get it, can’t get it, will never get it.

Palin or nothin'??!! PRETTY PLEASE!!!!!! What a bunch of dunce caps!
rrpjr

re: #35 prairiefire

What do they say about President Obama being from HI?

My family doesn't question it, them being dogmatic Democrats.

I'm in a unique position being that I have may conservative friends and acquaintances so they 'trust' me due to my previously articulated conservative beliefs, but are puzzled at my 'turn' in the last two years. They don't question Obama's birth anymore because I'll incessantly ridicule them but I know the sentiments are still there.

re: #40 brookly red

Greetings... it's snowing hard in NYC.

my landlord, up in the front house, came down here just to escape that weather...it's beautiful in ABQ right now

re: #43 BigPapa

My family doesn't question it, them being dogmatic Democrats.

I'm in a unique position being that I have may conservative friends and acquaintances so they 'trust' me due to my previously articulated conservative beliefs, but are puzzled at my 'turn' in the last two years. They don't question Obama's birth anymore because I'll incessantly ridicule them but I know the sentiments are still there.

the subject doesn't even deserve comment anymore...poke it with a fork

re: #44 albusteve

my landlord, up in the front house, came down here just to escape that weather...it's beautiful in ABQ right now

enjoy it... we are getting our annual storm of the century.

re: #40 brookly red
I understand. It is snowing and it is also blowing around here in Philly.

re: #46 brookly red

enjoy it... we are getting our annual storm of the century.

better buy an extra six pack!

where is the Bears/Jets game?

re: #48 albusteve

better buy an extra six pack!

I am all stocked up.

re: #49 albusteve

Chicago on CBS.

re: #49 albusteve

where is the Bears/Jets game?

In Chicago on CBS
You probably can't get it

re: #45 albusteve

the subject doesn't even deserve comment anymore...poke it with a fork

You are correct. Where Obama was born is not worth discussing, stick a fork in it.

The subject now is why people won't let the fuck go of it and doggedly/mindlessly cling to it. That angle would not be worth discussing if 1% of the population would not let it go, but 25% and even some of elected officials won't let it go. It keeps coming up and is used to detract from the President, which could undermine real progress on real issues.

thanks all

re: #43 BigPapa

One can be a conservative and also rational, not falling for the emotional dog whistles and baloney. I think some of those folks are self indulgent and believe what they want to.
I am sure you will handle it well. The trick is to not get into things on a personal level as then it becomes destructive to your relationships, business, etc. I think you posted about having to walk that line on FaceBook.

re: #52 HoosierHoops

In Chicago on CBS
You probably can't get it

Well, neither team has shown much defense this game. It's been a shootout. The biggest surprise may be how well the bears offensive line is doing. Jay Cutler is not Peyton Manning, but if you keep letting him have as much time as he's had to throw, he'll hammer you.

re: #53 BigPapa

The closest thing, IMHO, to this is the Al Gore Florida 2000 nonsense, but that did not have the overt racial undertones...

re: #53 BigPapa

You are correct. Where Obama was born is not worth discussing, stick a fork in it.

The subject now is why people won't let the fuck go of it and doggedly/mindlessly cling to it. That angle would not be worth discussing if 1% of the population would not let it go, but 25% and even some of elected officials won't let it go. It keeps coming up and is used to detract from the President, which could undermine real progress on real issues.

if he feels distracted, he can just go shoot some hoops...there will always be mindless accusations....pffft!

re: #57 Taqyia2Me

The closest thing, IMHO, to this is the Al Gore Florida 2000 nonsense, but that did not have the overt racial undertones...

BO is multi racial....as for racism, case closed

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Well, neither team has shown much defense this game. It's been a shootout. The biggest surprise may be how well the bears offensive line is doing. Jay Cutler is not Peyton Manning, but if you keep letting him have as much time as he's had to throw, he'll hammer you.

Colts vs. Raiders next...I grew up loving the Raiders..Now I love the Colts..I'm conflicted today...:)

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Well, neither team has shown much defense this game. It's been a shootout. The biggest surprise may be how well the bears offensive line is doing. Jay Cutler is not Peyton Manning, but if you keep letting him have as much time as he's had to throw, he'll hammer you.

I've seen a few games at the old Soldier Field...what a riot, big fun

re: #60 HoosierHoops

Colts vs. Raiders next...I grew up loving the Raiders..Now I love the Colts..I'm conflicted today...:)

one of those types eh?....no human could rip me away from the Cowboys, and I don't think God could either

re: #62 albusteve

one of those types eh?...no human could rip me away from the Cowboys, and I don't think God could either

I have teams I hate...
Sure enjoyed seeing the Cowboys getting their hearts ripped out last night...That was fun!

re: #55 prairiefire

I am sure you will handle it well. The trick is to not get into things on a personal level as then it becomes destructive to your relationships, business, etc. I think you posted about having to walk that line on FaceBook.

I'm keeping my mouth shut for now and playing on 'safe' subjects but I have biz acquaintances who are FB friends. I'm wondering if I should have two FB accounts or change it, decision still pending.

I'm wondering if it's worth staying friends with people who are otherwise morons. Will they be that ignorant when an issue regarding our relationship is of any worth?

I really don't care the politics of the other person, if we can agree or disagree but have a reasoned exchange that is what is most valuable. But when dogma and hyperbole is mixed in with ignorance I have a hard time excusing it no matter the political affiliation.

I blew off other ideas as 'that's just their opinion' for years: Beck/Limbaugh 'being entertainers,' Obama's birth certificate, fanboi-sim of AGW deniers, etc. Now I'm wondering if there's a point at which you can't excuse idiocy and need to respond.

Taxation of the wealthy, policy choices, geopolitical war policies, that's opinions. We can agree or not. Ignorance is not an opinion but it sure is a choice.

And a rare FG miss by Robbie Gould will give the Jets the ball at around their own 30. Bears still lead by 4.

re: #63 HoosierHoops

I have teams I hate...
Sure enjoyed seeing the Cowboys getting their hearts ripped out last night...That was fun!

it was...you get your moneys worth with those guys...Beuller can kick the ball a mile, but misses an xtra point!....the only team I 'hate' is the Eagles...if hate were a country I'd be China...I hate them with every cell of my body, hate that you cannot measure...pure bibical hatred

re: #60 HoosierHoops

Colts vs. Raiders next...I grew up loving the Raiders..Now I love the Colts..I'm conflicted today...:)

Here in Chicago we'll be watching Packers vs. Giants next. So you and I will both be rooting for a Manning.

re: #66 albusteve

it was...you get your moneys worth with those guys...Beuller can kick the ball a mile, but misses an xtra point!...the only team I 'hate' is the Eagles...if hate were a country I'd be China...I hate them with every cell of my body, hate that you cannot measure...pure bibical hatred

Is it the entire team, or just Michael Vick?

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Is it the entire team, or just Michael Vick?

it goes back decades...Vick is just passing through, altho I really dislike the guy and his approach to his public life....a total asshole

Bears got the ball back...they now need to run the clock out. And Cutler and Martz are smart enough to realize the Jets might give up a big play here....

re: #69 albusteve

it goes back decades...Vick is just passing through, altho I really dislike the guy and his approach to his public life...a total asshole

Well then root for the Bears to get the number 2 seed. But even so, the Eagles will be tough in the playoffs. Vick's offense is explosive.

re: #64 BigPapa

We are fortunate in America that figuring out how to communicate respectfully with opposing views is the worst it gets. No midnight knocks on the door. No "disappearances."
When people start talking as if actual threats to our freedom, "fema camps", will occur, they are in silly land. For me, I just leave them there and walk away.

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Well then root for the Bears to get the number 2 seed. But even so, the Eagles will be tough in the playoffs. Vick's offense is explosive.

that's another matter...Dallas beat them twice last year and shut down Vick...and btw, the Eagles deserve what fans think of them, they earned it

re: #73 albusteve

that's another matter...Dallas beat them twice last year and shut down Vick...and btw, the Eagles deserve what fans think of them, they earned it

That was last year. But still, if ever I wanted a team to be the spoiler, it would the Vikings against the Eagles.

re: #59 albusteve

BO is multi racial...as for racism, case closed

it's my observation that racists hate mixed raced kids the most. their biggest fear was that integration would result in "mongrels".

Just here a moment, but I will mention that it's certainly not a waste of time to see True Grit, I thought it a vast improvement on the original.

re: #76 Thanos

Just here a moment, but I will mention that it's certainly not a waste of time to see True Grit, I thought it a vast improvement on the original.

The reviews all say its much truer to the book. I'll make a note to see it.

re: #72 prairiefire

When people start talking as if actual threats to our freedom, "fema camps", will occur, they are in silly land. For me, I just leave them there and walk away.

That has been my usual tact and probably fine. If it's a rare occurrence and 1% of the population fantacize about it, not a big deal. 25% bringing it up and 'entertainers' that have regular audiences in the millions keeping the meme's alive, that's a problem that left unchecked become a social cancer.

I'm beginning to wonder if the best way to 'do something' is to take all these discussions I previously blew off and engage. Not to win or beat down, but to retort and hold ground. It's about all I can do.

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

That and the supporting cast are all much finer actors than those in the original.

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

The reviews all say its much truer to the book. I'll make a note to see it.

I hope Matte doesn't die at the end of the remake..That pissed me off...Damn snakes! I hate snakes..

re: #76 Thanos

Just here a moment, but I will mention that it's certainly not a waste of time to see True Grit, I thought it a vast improvement on the original.

I was just reading about it. The first ad hearing Bridges talk in old grizzled cowboy hooked me. Being a Coen Bros film locked it. I'm going to see it in the theaters.

Chris Harris gets an interception. Barring a miracle, this pick will end the game with a Bears win.

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Chris Harris gets an interception. Barring a miracle, this pick will end the game with a Bears win.

*Charging superlaser to 0.05% of total power...
Targeting stadium...*
/

re: #81 BigPapa

I don't want to wreck it for you but I will mention that everyone speaks in the true vernacular of the time, the Coens are as true there to the actual history as Ridley Scott usually is with period authenticity.

re: #84 Thanos

I don't want to wreck it for you but I will mention that everyone speaks in the true vernacular of the time, the Coens are as true there to the actual history as Ridley Scott usually is with period authenticity.

You're not wrecking it for me, you're pumping it up. I haven't been this excited to see a movie for a while. My first western I really liked was "Outlaw Josey Wales."

re: #75 zora

Hey zora, missed you lately. (I look for ya)

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Hey zora, missed you lately. (I look for ya)

hey, back. i hope you're enjoying the holidays.

Dodge kicks away from Jackson -- one game too late.

The Eagles game has been postponed. [Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

I didn't know we still had any Birthers left, but sure enough one just popped up:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

If you've ever wanted to try to figure out what makes Birthers tick, here's your chance. I've given up. Now I just point and laugh.

re: #83 Varek Raith

*Charging superlaser to 0.05% of total power...
Targeting stadium...*
/

I see you missed and hit Philadelphia instead. You might want to keep the stormtroopers away from the Death Star's fire controls. :D

Just a routine weapons malfunction...

re: #91 Charles

If you've ever wanted to try to figure out what makes Birthers tick, here's your chance. I've given up. Now I just point and laugh.

Guys I need your help to prepare the troll. It should be good for a nice Sunday dinner, so let's fry the troll up!

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

I'm out for trying a stew or fish fry recipe, you game?

re: #95 BigPapa

I'm out for trying a stew or fish fry recipe, you game?

I recommend you par-boil it first

re: #87 zora

hey, back. i hope you're enjoying the holidays.

I am. No work till Tuesday then it's "dead" week (I hope)

Back to you, hope you had a great holiday so far.

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Guys I need your help to prepare the troll. It should be good for a nice Sunday dinner, so let's fry the troll up!

I'm hungry.

re: #95 BigPapa

I'm out for trying a stew or fish fry recipe, you game?

We can try, but it's a "red fish" (that's the troll's nic) so we should probably chargrill it.

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

We can try, but it's a "red fish" (that's the troll's nic) so we should probably chargrill it.

White wine ok with Red Fish?
So confusing.

re: #100 ozbloke

White wine ok with Red Fish?
So confusing.

Yes. I prefer Chardonnay, if you please.

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Yes. I prefer Chardonnay, if you please.

Room temperature or chilled Sir, we have either.

re: #102 ozbloke

Room temperature or chilled Sir, we have either.

Chilled. I am told that you Aussies produce quality white wines, let us find out.

What a pass by Eli Manning and what a run by Mario Manningham to get the Giants a 14-14 tie with the Packers.

Definitely feel like I'm missing something right now by not being a sports fan.

Dammit, he got away. I swear, I almost caught the "red fish" and he was THIS BIG!!1

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Chilled. I am told that you Aussies produce quality white wines, let us find out.

Something from the Margaret River in WA or the Barossa Valley in SA then, the gentleman has good taste.

Garçon, Garçon, s'il vous plaît.

re: #107 ozbloke

Something from the Margaret River in WA or the Barossa Valley in SA then, the gentleman has good taste.

Garçon, Garçon, s'il vous plaît.

Merci.

Happy boxing day! Updings for everyone!

re: #34 albusteve

McDaniels' firing was the end of an error and the greatest Christmas present I've received all year.