GOP Rep. Introduces Anti-Evolution Bill in New Mexico

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Republican Thomas A. Anderson has introduced a bill to the New Mexico House of Representatives that will shield teachers who indoctrinate children with creationism and climate change denial.

House Bill 302, as it’s called, states that public school teachers who want to teach “scientific weaknesses” about “controversial scientific topics” including evolution, climate change, human cloning and — ambiguously — “other scientific topics” may do so without fear of reprimand. The legislation was introduced to the New Mexico House of Representatives on Feb. 1 by Republican Rep. Thomas A. Anderson.

Supporters of science education say this and other bills are designed to spook teachers who want to teach legitimate science and protect other teachers who may already be customizing their curricula with anti-science lesson plans.

“These bills say, ‘Oh we’re just protecting the rights of teachers,’ which on the face of it isn’t wrong. But they draw big red circles around topics like evolution and climate change as topics to be wary about,” said Joshua Rosenau, a policy and projects director at the National Center for Science Education. “It suggests this kind of science is controversial, and would protect teachers who want to teach anti-evolution and climate-change-denying lessons in classrooms.”

The bill is one of five already introduced to state legislatures this year. While more than 30 such bills have been introduced since 2004, only Louisiana adopted one as law in 2008.

Also at the National Center for Science Education:
Antievolution legislation in New Mexico

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1 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:24:51pm

"Anti-Evolution Bill"?

I myself will promise not to evolve if the state of California outlaws it, but I can't give any assurances about future generations.

2 HoosierHoops  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:27:08pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

"Anti-Evolution Bill"?

I myself will promise not to evolve if the state of California outlaws it, but I can't give any assurances about future generations.

I'm afraid I'll evolve into Justin Bieber

3 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:27:28pm

Just so long as a teacher can teach his students that the human race formed from the genetic waste produced by the Elder Things when they created Shoggoths, I'll support it. Its as valid as other alternatives.

4 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:27:47pm

re: #2 HoosierHoops

I'm afraid I'll evolve into Justin Bieber

Why do you hate her?

5 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:28:43pm
“other scientific topics”


Ugh.

6 mr.fusion  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:30:07pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Why do you hate her?

For her freedome

7 AntonSirius  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:30:35pm

Since there aren't any "scientific weaknesses" in the theory of evolution, teachers who tried to pass on the usual faith-based ID nonsense to their students would still be subject to lawsuits and such. And then we might even get a second Scopes trial out if it!

Wingnut fail, on sooo many levels.

8 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:30:43pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Ugh.

Magnets: How do they work?

9 Alexzander  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:30:58pm

Thank God we have the republicans to protect us from the theocrats in the middle east.

10 albusteve  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:33:51pm

in the land of Sandia Labs, Los Alamos and other world renowned research, you'd think that shit like this would be laughed right out of Santa Fe...maybe the Land of Enchantment is really the Land of Unenlightened....time to speak for myself, maybe this chump will get back to me...no other politician in NM ever has, except for the canned, contribution spewtum

11 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:34:13pm

re: #9 Alexzander

Thank God we have the republicans to protect us from the theocrats in the middle east.

Republicans Politicians don't hate theocrats, they just hate those of the wrong flavor (and making insufficient campaign contributions).

12 albusteve  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:35:06pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Magnets: How do they work?

they are powered by moons and tides...next question!

13 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:36:16pm

It is one thing to be against the science of evolution, that merely makes one an utter fool, and ignoramus and a pandering theocrat.

To pretend that climate change is not real, and a clear and present danger - that had no small part in the food shortages that triggered these riots - and that will if not confronted kill billions, is to be dangerous and a threat to America, our nation, our civilization and our generations.

Pathetic, ignorant, Republican scum.

14 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:38:43pm

Perhaps we could give the Republicans a little country of their own, clear out some useless state like Texas, let them re-name it Jesus land and shut the damn border. Give them 20 years and we can rescue the survivors.

15 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:39:01pm

No way out of this except actually teaching children how to reason well for themselves.

16 recusancy  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:39:35pm

re: #15 Ojoe

No way out of this except actually teaching children how to reason well for themselves.

In indoctrination into the whig party.

17 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:40:11pm

re: #16 recusancy

Sure. LOL. It's a voluntary outfit.

18 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:40:17pm

re: #15 Ojoe

No way out of this except actually teaching children how to reason well for themselves.

Well, I don't think will be very hard at ...OH, JERSEY SHORE IS ON!

19 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:41:30pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Consciousness is a rare thing apparently.

20 Cankles McCellulite  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:41:56pm

re: #15 Ojoe
I understand where you are coming from but creationists think they are using reasoning skills and 'evolutionists' are not.

21 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:41:58pm

re: #19 Ojoe

Consciousness is a rare thing apparently.

HypnoToad approves of this message.

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22 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:43:23pm

re: #20 Cankles McCellulite

True, and ironic.

23 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:44:00pm

good, i'm tired of evolving, anyway

24 Alexzander  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:44:28pm

re: #20 Cankles McCellulite

I understand where you are coming from but creationists think they are using reasoning skills and 'evolutionists' are not.

This is actually an important point. Some creationists are coming from vastly different metaphysical, ontological and epistemological frameworks.

25 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:45:03pm

re: #20 Cankles McCellulite

I understand where you are coming from but creationists think they are using reasoning skills and 'evolutionists' are not.

I think the major two skills mastered by this group are projection and an abject ability to tolerate their own hypocrisy.

26 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:46:16pm

Well, I sure the fuck didn't vote for this dickwad. >:(

27 brookly red  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:47:38pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, I don't think will be very hard at ...OH, JERSEY SHORE IS ON!

well there is a good case for evolution...

28 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:48:01pm

Especially in light of the report on the state of science teaching in this country that was highlighted here awhile ago, this is extremely bad.

Science and education are what makes our nation wealthy and powerful. Science and the application of that science is the foundation from which everything becomes possible.

Those who oppose good science education in this country are ensuring our decline. They almost seem to want it, to want us to slide from a place where everyone has the chance for prosperity to a split society of the ultra-wealthy-- dare I say the 'elect'-- and the huddled masses, subservient to religious laws.

This is why those who want this are not conservatives. They are radicals. They are wild radicals.

29 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:48:13pm

besides, i'm against the concept that humans evolved from 1956 deSotos

it ain't in the bible

30 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:48:23pm

re: #23 engineer dog

good, i'm tired of evolving, anyway

Well, unless you think Lamarck-ism is correct you're not actually evolving in any case.

A beach changes shape and evolves in reaction to currents, but that doesn't make every grain of sand evolve as well. Individuals Populations. (But we knew that anyways. :) )

31 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:49:03pm

re: #27 brookly red

well there is a good case for evolution...

This one is better

32 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:49:28pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

“other scientific topics”

Ugh.

I'm moving to New Mexico so I can teach the theory that cameras swallow people's souls. Embrace the controversy.

33 albusteve  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:51:07pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Ugh.

I'm moving to New Mexico so I can teach the theory that cameras swallow people's souls. Embrace the controversy.

how do you know they don't?

34 Jack Burton  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:52:24pm

Thomas A. Anderson? Is that Neo or the old vet from Beavis and Butthead?

35 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:52:56pm

watching how these people behave an seeing them embodied as the Enclave just made it that much more satisfying when I sent "Joh Henry Eden" into a circular logic loop this morning that resulted in self-destruction...

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:53:06pm

re: #33 albusteve

I'm moving to New Mexico so I can teach the theory that cameras swallow people's souls. Embrace the controversy.

how do you know they don't?

That's why he's teaching the controversy!

37 Cankles McCellulite  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:55:04pm

re: #24 Alexzander
It's actually very fascinating to me. Having creationist in laws you start to understand why science does not get through to them. This comment from a user at Discover magazine explains it best:

Sadly, the creationists see science’s new data/updating old theories as a weakness. Once, while attending an Orthodox temple (my parents belonged there and I was living with them at the time), the rabbi gave a sermon about how wrong science always was and how right religion always was. I didn’t correct him (would have been rude and the crowd wasn’t exactly on the fence when it came to this) but just sat back and listened (and bit my tongue).

To him, religion “knows the truth.” The fact that they keep at the same explanation (“God did it”) is a strength. Meanwhile, science is constantly changing their story — a clear sign of weakness to them.

So when we try talking about altering theories to better account for new data, they roll their eyes and think “science is changing its story again” just like we roll our eyes when they say “God did it… end of story” for the millionth time.

My in-laws see religion as the truth because to them 'facts' or 'truths' don't change, they are static. So when they hear about scientific theory's constantly evolving with new investigations they see that as a flaw and not a truth or fact because it doesn't stay the same. It's not static like their biblical explanations are.

38 jaunte  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:56:54pm
Anderson is an interim member of the Courts, Corrections and Justice Committee, an interim advisor of the Mortgage Finance Authority Act Oversight Committee, an interim advisor of the Radioactive and Hazardous Materials Committee, an interim advisor of the Military and Veterans' Affairs Committee, a member of the Consumer and Public Affairs Committee and a member of the Voters and Elections Committee.
[Link: newmexico.onpolitix.com...]


Radiation; how does it work?

39 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:58:05pm

re: #15 Ojoe

No way out of this except actually teaching children how to reason well for themselves.

It's part of the solution, but I would also encourage respect for and participation in the scientific process.

Reasoning is all well and good, but it doesn't work if you don't have all the facts. It takes decades to become an expert in any given field and to think that someone armed with only logic and some of the facts would correctly debunk something that takes decades to get the whole picture of is highly unlikely.

40 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:59:10pm

re: #37 Cankles McCellulite

It's actually very fascinating to me. Having creationist in laws you start to understand why science does not get through to them. This comment from a user at Discover magazine explains it best:


My in-laws see religion as the truth because to them 'facts' or 'truths' don't change, they are static. So when they hear about scientific theory's constantly evolving with new investigations they see that as a flaw and not a truth or fact because it doesn't stay the same. It's not static like their biblical explanations are.

Caveman (to other caveman): Is it me, or is the glacier getting closer?

41 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:59:12pm

re: #38 jaunte

Radiation; how does it work?

Magical glowing fairy dust.

42 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:00:30pm

re: #40 oaktree

Caveman (to other caveman): Is it me, or is the glacier getting closer?

HEY, LOOK WHAT ZOG DO!

43 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:02:06pm

On the NM Bill Locator page, it is called "PROTECTION FROM CERTAIN SCIENTIFIC TOPICS".

F'in wingnuts...

44 SpaceJesus  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:02:56pm

ah, just in time for me to get my J.D.

45 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:03:04pm

Egypt Update

10.22pm:CloseLink to this update: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...] An attempt to crowd-source the names of those who have died in the protests has been launched using a spreadsheet on Google Docs.

"We are attempting to name all of the brave Egyptians who have been killed during the peaceful fight for freedom," the organisers write. And the details are telling, including this entry for a man named Ahmed Ahab Mostafa:

Shot on Friday 28 Jan, died 3 Feb at Al Azhar University hospital in Hussein. Hospital refuses to give the body to his family unless they sign a statement that he died in a car accident.

46 Kragar  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:03:45pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

On the NM Bill Locator page, it is called "PROTECTION FROM CERTAIN SCIENTIFIC TOPICS".

F'in wingnuts...

Because some people are too weak to have their beliefs challenged with things like facts and evidence

47 albusteve  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:04:13pm

another example of bad legislation, bad leadership and bad governing...and it's piling up in the courts, exactly where it should never have to be in the first place...a waste of time and resources payed for by the taxpayers, and the burden just gets heavier all the time

48 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:04:29pm

"We want to deny reality ourselves and make sure that our children are not exposed to it either. Instead we want schools to teach religious mythos and baseless newage supposition. We needs us some new laws to keep these dang uppity teachers from insisting that we only teach their newfangled "scientificy" "facts." Why, any fool can see that it is only an attempt by them leftie communist types to teach our children that the KJV Bible is not the holy and infallible WORD of GOD!"

///sigh...

49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:04:36pm

I am glad that Rep Anderson cares about important issues like keeping evolution and climate change out of our schools as opposed to trival issues like jobs. Seriously, this guy is a perfect example of what the hell is wrong with the modern day Republican Party. You earn your bonafides by being as anti science as possible. I have to say. I am not as smart at science as many people are here but I realize its importance since we need to be able to understand how the world around us works. And honestly who wouldn't want to be related in someway to that adorable orangutan that is pictured with the article? I am someone who loves going to the ape exhibit at the zoo and being astounded at how smart those animals are.

50 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:05:53pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I am someone who loves going to the ape exhibit at the zoo and being astounded at how smart those animals are.

Wish I could do the same at the state legislature.

51 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:06:27pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I am glad that Rep Anderson cares about important issues like keeping evolution and climate change out of our schools as opposed to trival issues like jobs. Seriously, this guy is a perfect example of what the hell is wrong with the modern day Republican Party. You earn your bonafides by being as anti science as possible. I have to say. I am not as smart at science as many people are here but I realize its importance since we need to be able to understand how the world around us works. And honestly who wouldn't want to be related in someway to that adorable orangutan that is pictured with the article? I am someone who loves going to the ape exhibit at the zoo and being astounded at how smart those animals are.

The animals interact with reality without worrying about how they can inject irreality. Until they eat the mushrooms. In that case they just sit back and enjoy the colors...

52 Gus  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:07:17pm

The Biblical literalists of course are stuck into thinking that the Earth is 6000 years old. So in the case of New Mexico do some of their citizens intend on denying their own natural history? Shiprock itself is was began it's formation well over 27 million years ago as determined through radiometric dating.

Clearly we can then see that "other scientific studies" would become controversial for these people. This goes beyond evolution and these literalists would have to find geology and radiometric dating controversial. It is as if though they are part of a religious sect from the age of antiquity.

53 jaunte  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:07:40pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

On the NM Bill Locator page, it is called "PROTECTION FROM CERTAIN SCIENTIFIC TOPICS".


If you want to follow me,
You've got to play pinball.
So put in your earplugs,
Put on your eyeshades,
You know where to put the cork

54 SilentAlfa  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:08:06pm

im often literally astounded by lengths to which people go to attack rational thought

55 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:09:18pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

Wish I could do the same at the state legislature.

Put them on exhibit for tourists? Where you can get food pellets out of a dispensing machine and toss them in to them to eat? I'd support that.

I'd also like to see orangs and chimps on the campaign trail doing speaking engagements. I suspect they'd be more civil, less pandering, and potentially more productive legislators.

56 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:11:15pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

Wish I could do the same at the state legislature.

Yeah tell me about it man. There was a journal entry here posted a week or so back about one of the state delegates here in Virginia trying to do all he could to denounce gays serving in the military because in his words it would hurt our relationship with Muslim countries. Funny to me since three our biggest allies (Canada, UK, and Israel) all allow gays to serve openly.

57 albusteve  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:11:30pm

re: #52 Gus 802

The Biblical literalists of course are stuck into thinking that the Earth is 6000 years old. So in the case of New Mexico do some of their citizens intend on denying their own natural history? Shiprock itself is was began it's formation well over 27 million years ago as determined through radiometric dating.

Clearly we can then see that "other scientific studies" would become controversial for these people. This goes beyond evolution and these literalists would have to find geology and radiometric dating controversial. It is as if though they are part of a religious sect from the age of antiquity.

God can speed up and slow down time....tomorrow if he wanted, Shiprock could be flat as a pancake, another of his cool inventions

58 Randy W. Weeks  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:11:44pm

re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote

Perhaps we could give the Republicans a little country of their own, clear out some useless state like Texas, let them re-name it Jesus land and shut the damn border. Give them 20 years and we can rescue the survivors.

Hey! Not all of us are crazy in Texas (even though it probably seems like it).

59 Bubblehead II  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:15:18pm

So, when will the real Nehemiah Scudder come forth and lead us out of the wasteland that our secular debauchery has created?

60 Gus  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:15:32pm

Evolution, biology, astronomy, geology, etc. Definitely human and animal behavior and especially sexual reproduction. Is some kid going to go home crying to his mother because the science teacher instructed him that some diamonds are roughly 3 billion years old?

Diamonds! Teach the controversy!

Sheesh.

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:16:27pm

re: #57 albusteve

God can speed up and slow down time...tomorrow if he wanted, Shiprock could be flat as a pancake, another of his cool inventions

Which would make science unapplicable by default. Science excludes supernatural explanations. Of course, if science doesn't apply, just about everything else in our view of reality doesn't apply in terms of predictive structure. No guarantee that gravity (intelligent falling) will continue to work, that electricity will flow, or that the sun will ever rise or set again. (Again assuming that our preceptions are real and not simply an illusion planted by God.)


And if you espoused all this without any religious insinuations as to the cause it would probably get you called nuts, or worse.

62 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 3:49:48pm

re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote

Perhaps we could give the Republicans a little country of their own, clear out some useless state like Texas, let them re-name it Jesus land and shut the damn border. Give them 20 years and we can rescue the survivors.

You mean like...

Image: 661px-Jesusland.png


///yeah it's old, but ya gotta admit it might be that bad an idea... ;)

63 theheat  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 4:05:08pm

The GOP's afraid their brains are already so large, that allowing more facts in would cause them to swell until they burst. Therefore, they must suppress facts and stay dumbed down, to curtail their brains growing.
//

64 reidr  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 4:08:40pm

re: #10 albusteve

I, too, am embarrassed for our state. It's a poor, rural state in general, but we seem more sane and reasonable.

Keep in mind... I think there are some very conservative, very religious people at our fine national labs. There may some PhDs that don't object to this bill. Just speculating....

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 4:36:51pm

re: #59 Bubblehead II

So, when will the real Nehemiah Scudder come forth and lead us out of the wasteland that our secular debauchery has created?

Upding for Nehemiah Scudder.

And I suspect the Prophet is trying to get a show on Fox.

66 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 3, 2011 4:50:13pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

On the NM Bill Locator page, it is called "PROTECTION FROM CERTAIN SCIENTIFIC TOPICS".

F'in wingnuts...

I'll be a monkey's uncle,,,


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