Thanksgiving fatigue?

Also upgrade fatigue.

Media Conservatives Absolve Wall Street, Falsely Blame Barney Frank For Housing Crisis (MMfA)
See also: Good Riddance, "Subprime" Barney Frank (Rush Limbaugh)

Goodnight, all.

I really want to read the WSJ article Barney Frank referenced yesterday that supposedly attacked him for wanting to ban subprime loans. Anyone know title/author?

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Also upgrade fatigue.

Allergy fatigue here.

Found this:

(In a recent op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal, Lawrence B. Lindsey, a former economic adviser to President Bush, wrote that Frank “is the only politician I know who has argued that we needed tighter rules that intentionally produce fewer homeowners and more renters.”)

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

Cannot find any portion of that text on wsj.com, though.

And their off...

[Link: unfccc4.meta-fusion.com...]

re: #8 freetoken

pimf "they're", of course. Actually, looks like they will start quite late, as usual.

In both parallel sessions, Argentina is speaking simultaneously, speaking on behalf of the G77+China. It's all so wonderfully synchronous.

Morning, all

yep

Morning Folks

re: #7 000G

Found this:

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

Cannot find any portion of that text on wsj.com, though.

Found it:

"The KISS Rule for Markets", April 2, 2008
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
[Link: www.aei.org...]
[Link: www.thelindseygroup.com...]

I don't think this is the one Frank referenced, though.

re: #13 WindUpBird

Good find. I saw Bowie in 2004 at the Shark Tank. Great showman.

re: #15 000G

Are you sure he wasn't talking about his call to ban proprietary trading of the subprime loans?

re: #17 RogueOne

Are you sure he wasn't talking about his call to ban proprietary trading of the subprime loans?

Fairly sure, yes. He specifially said that the WSJ op-ed attacked him because it defended subprime loans as a good way to get credit to poor people/minorities. Which I found really weird, considering WSJ's political bias.

Before I forget:

The Las Vegas Journal is doing a multi-part series on the police use of deadly force. Part 1 is titled:

Always Justified
[Link: www.lvrj.com...]

They serve and protect. And sometimes they shoot and kill.

Las Vegas Valley police have been involved in 378 shootings since 1990, 142 of them fatal. One agency alone, the Metropolitan Police Department, was responsible for 310 shootings and 115 deaths.

Dozens of those shootings were unavoidable -- some even heroic. Others could have been prevented. All are presented in a five-part special report that begins today.

In the first installment of the series, the Review-Journal spotlights a troubled former Las Vegas police officer involved in three deadly shootings, each more peculiar than the last.

The strange career of officer George "Gregg" Pease illustrates the workings of a police department that is slow to get rid of problem cops and is slower still to embrace reforms that would help protect both officers and the public they serve.

re: #18 000G

From 2005 thru 2007 President Bush was boasting that home ownership was at an all-time high. I thought this was odd because housing prices were increasing far faster than household income.Looked like a classic case of "bubble."

re: #18 000G

Fairly sure, yes. He specifially said that the WSJ op-ed attacked him because it defended subprime loans as a good way to get credit to poor people/minorities. Which I found really weird, considering WSJ's political bias.

and Franks long term position pushing fannie/freddie to make the loans. I think you were drinking yesterday morning.//

re: #18 000G

Have you already read this one?

Barney Frank: Don’t Blame Me for Fannie, Freddie Problems
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

Barbara Arnwine, Civil Rights Lawyer, Home Raided By Police
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

A civil rights lawyer said she is outraged and is sharing her story with the media, after her Maryland home was raided by police shortly before Thanksgiving.

Barbara Arnwine, Executive Direcor of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said her Prince George County home was raided by a SWAT team and other law enforcement the morning of Nov. 21, Politic365.com reports.

"They held us at gunpoint for three hours," Arnwine told Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr. on Sharpton's radio show "Keepin' It Real." "There is no justification for them operating like this. It's totally unprofessional and unjustified."

Arnwine is a well known attorney, and one of the leaders of groups in opposition of Voter ID laws. On Nov. 14, she spoke out about the effects of voter suppression laws on the minority community along with members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Laura W. Murphy, director of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Ahh, Prince George County. That explains it.

So, I tweeted Charles' article yesterday, about the deranged Delingpole, to one of the AGW deniers who were tweeting to #COP17... and I get some replies. One guy wanted to prove me wrong by linking to an article from American Thinker... American Thinker - yes, that outstanding publication of scientific knowledge (ahem.)

Anyway, it was this article from Sunday:
Scientists in Revolt against Global Warming
It's just a compilation of wingnut claims.

The author is supposedly "Karin McQuillan", an interesting name. That author is assigned to a usual (for wingnut) assortment of articles at AT:
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
That list doesn't cover a very long span of time, so I did a google search on the name, and found someone writing by that name a few articles (of similar flavor) at Frontpage:
[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

Strangely, one person who had a sort of run-in with a "Karin McQuillan" is none other than Uri Geller:
[Link: www.urigeller.com...]
way back in 2000, when he realized that "Karin McQuillan" was pushing a chain letter criticizing the Protocols of Zion and Uri proposes that Karin may not be a real person.

She has a few articles spread all around the internet... none of them on anything scientific.

Yet somehow her re-gurgitatations of AGW-denier talking points can be used to prove Delingpole correct.

They really are creationists, just not in name.

re: #23 RogueOne

Strange story. Sounds like mistaken identity. It looks like no one contacted the police agency (ies) who conducted the raid?

Hey all!

awake again.

How are you-all?

re: #25 EdDantes

Strange story. Sounds like mistaken identity. It looks like no one contacted the police agency (ies) who conducted the raid?

From another story I read it looks like they aren't talking. They have a habit of overuse of SWAT teams. Remember Mayor Calvo?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

For those interested in who and what came before, the latest edition of "Antiquity" has some neat stuff about ancient African rock art:
[Link: antiquity.ac.uk...]
dating from 15,000 years ago.

OPD officer shoots, misses unarmed man with saggy pants
Kevin Brooks told detectives he was reaching for his pants because he belt broke.
[Link: www.orlandosentinel.com...]

An Orlando police officer shot at an unarmed man with saggy pants during a confrontation last weekend because the cop thought the man was reaching for a gun. But the suspect said his belt broke and he was just trying to keep his pants from falling.

Kevin Lorenzo Brooks, 32, was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon — even though he was unarmed — after the confrontation with the officer Saturday.

Brooks told a detective he reached for his pants because his belt broke. The officer involved was placed on administrative leave pending the results of an internal-affairs investigation, according to police spokesman Sgt. Vincent Ogburn.

re: #5 000G

I really want to read the WSJ article Barney Frank referenced yesterday that supposedly attacked him for wanting to ban subprime loans. Anyone know title/author?

I haven't seen that one either.

I guess you could email Franks office and see if they'll send you the reference.

re: #27 RogueOne

I see what you mean. There is a pattern of civil rights violations. Fu**ing dog killers.

from a 2008 article in US News:

So five years ago, there was one of those rare moments in Washington when the branches and personalities of government—in this case, the Bush administration—are less interested in protecting or expanding their turf than in fixing a looming catastrophe. What was Frank's response to the proposal?

"These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis," said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. "The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

As Frank mentions in his press release today, two years after it was first proposed, the House finally voted on a bill reforming the mortgage giants. Alas, the legislation was watered down to the point of being meaningless—that's why it passed the House with such wide margins (122 Democrats and 209 Republicans). But even then, and despite his high regard for bipartisanship now, Barney Frank wasn't among the yeas.

Jim Vandehei from Politico just said on Morning Joe that they're hearing about another 6 "senior" house dems who might jump ship and retire.

re: #31 EdDantes

I see what you mean. There is a pattern of civil rights violations. Fu**ing dog killers.

Not to mention that is REALLY STUPID to treat an attorney that way, especially a Civil Rights attorney. They can really mess-you-up if they've been wrongly accused or otherwise had their civil rights abused.

re: #21 RogueOne

and Franks long term position pushing fannie/freddie to make the loans. I think you were drinking yesterday morning.//

He starts talking about subprime loans & the GSEs at 17:30
He starts talking about that WSJ op-ed at 20:26

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

re: #35 000G

He starts talking about subprime loans & the GSEs at 17:30
He starts talking about that WSJ op-ed at 20:26

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

Did he give any indication of what year the op-ed was published. He did push for some sort of regulation of Fannie and Freddie, I think in 2005.

re: #28 freetoken

For those interested in who and what came before, the latest edition of "Antiquity" has some neat stuff about ancient African rock art:
[Link: antiquity.ac.uk...]
dating from 15,000 years ago.

You read the most interesting websites!

re: #28 freetoken

I had no idea aurochs were in North Africa. I'd always associated them with Europe. Big ass beasts.

re: #36 ggt

Did he give any indication of what year the op-ed was published. He did push for some sort of regulation of Fannie and Freddie, I think in 2005.

Just play the C-SPAN video on the page that I linked and forward to the time marks that I gave, he recounts it all, with dates and everything. I will just quote this piece:

"Later that year, in 2007, we passed a bill to block subprime loans. The Wall Street Journal attacked us, said it was [inaudible] for housing, that we didn't believe in the free market and that subprime loans were very good things to helping poor people win [?]"

Vocabulary word for the day:

The aurochs (play /ˈaʊrɒks/ or /ˈɔrɒks/; also urus, Bos primigenius), the ancestor of domestic cattle, were a type of large wild cattle which inhabited Europe, Asia and North Africa, but is now extinct; it survived in Europe until 1627.

Aurochs bulls are believed to have reached a height of 1.8 metres (5 feet 10 inches) at the withers, and the cows to have been about 1.5 metres (4 feet 11 inches), displaying considerable sexual dimorphism.[2]

The aurochs was regarded as a challenging hunting quarry animal, contributing to its extinction. The last recorded aurochs, a female, died in 1627 in the Jaktorów Forest, Poland, and her skull is now the property of the Livrustkammaren ("Royal Armory") museum in Stockholm, Sweden.

Representations and descriptions of aurochs appear in prehistoric cave paintings, in Julius Caesar's The Gallic War, and as the national symbol of many European countries, states and cities such as Alba-Iulia, Kaunas, Romania, Moldavia, Turka, Mecklenburg, and Uri. The Swiss canton Uri was named after this animal species.

Domestication of bovines occurred in several parts of the world but at roughly the same time, about 8,000 years ago, possibly all derived from the aurochs. In 1920, the Heck brothers, who were German biologists, attempted to recreate aurochs. The resulting cattle are known as Heck cattle or Reconstructed Aurochs, and number in the thousands in Europe today. However, they are genetically and physiologically distinct from aurochs. The Heck brothers' aurochs also have a pale yellow dorsal stripe, instead of white.

A record for major hurricanes that won’t be in many headlines.
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Here is a HuffPo that has several links and references that might be helpful. I can't do anymore research right now, I have to drive the kid early this am

Good luck.

Frank elaborated on the points in a 2009 interview with PBS. Excerpt:

By when are the cracks appearing in the dike?

I would say in 2004-2005 you began to see a pattern of subprime mortgage failures. I don't remember it exactly. I do know that in 2004, when the Bush administration ordered Fannie Mae [Federal National Mortgage Association] and Freddie Mac [Federal Home Mortgage Corp.] to increase the number of mortgages they bought from people below the median income, I complained and said, "Look, you are going to jeopardize them, and you are going to push people into mortgages [they] can't afford."

I do remember very clearly, by 2005, several members of the Committee on Financial Services -- again, the Republicans were in the majority during this point -- two from North Carolina, where there has been real leadership on this, [Democratic Reps.] Mel Watt and Brad Miller, and myself, working with the Republican Spencer Baucus [R-Ala.], started to see if we could draft the legislation to restrict bad subprime mortgages. A couple of others were trying to do this, too, [Reps.] Paul Kanjorski [D-Pa.] and Ed Royce [R-Calif.].

So by 2005 there was a recognition that too many bad mortgages were being issued, and we were trying to work something out. And then [Texas Rep.] Tom DeLay, as the Republican leader, sent word to [Rep.] Mike Oxley [R-Ohio], the chairman of the committee: "Stop it. You are not going to get any bill up." ... First we tried to push Greenspan to use the authority, and he wouldn't do it. And secondly, we then tried to draft a bill, and Tom DeLay said no. ... If we had been able to stop it in 2005, we would have diminished this crisis.

[Prior to the summer and fall of 2007], were you actively worried about the economy and the depths of this?

... I did, along with others, see the problem of too many subprime mortgages being granted. I did not see, as I think few saw, the extent to which modern, sophisticated financial techniques were going to take these bad loans and rocket them through the system. The extent to which bad, subprime loans granted in America caused the worldwide crisis, I did not foresee.

When did you start to worry? Some people we've talked to say August '07, ... the system is in trouble.

... We weren't holding back. 2005 was when we were starting to do subprime loans. And when the elections of 2006 put us back in the majority and I became chairman of the Financial Services Committee, one of the first things I did was to go to my colleagues from North Carolina and say, "OK, let's now start redrafting that bill to block bad subprime loans." So we were sufficiently worried by 2007 to make it a priority.

We passed a bill that summer to block bad subprime loans, only we couldn't get it through the Senate. And we were also urging the Fed to do that. In 2007 we were worried about the bad subprime loans, and there were indications that the rot was spreading.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

re: #43 000G

So when you hear about Bear Stearns in March 2008, what do you think? Do you think, oh, my God, here we go? ...

You tend to be operational. We don't sit around and say, "Oh, isn't this bad or that bad?" Our job is, what are we going to do about it? We increased our efforts to do two things: first of all, to stop bad subprime loans from being made going forward; and secondly, we had begun this in 2007 to try and reduce the number of foreclosures. ...

So when we heard about Bear Stearns, it didn't change our position. We were already, those of us on the Democratic side here, working as hard as we could to ban future bad subprime loans and to get measures adopted that would alleviate the number of foreclosures.

What was the contagion that took Bear down?

People made a lot of subprime loans. Those were the bullets. The guns were these very sophisticated measures of collateralized debt obligation [CDO] derivatives. What took down Bear and ultimately a lot of others, Lehman Brothers, and put Merrill Lynch in a weakened position and Wachovia bank and some others, were their purchase of collateralized debt obligations of securities that were based on mortgages that should never have been issued, and it was the fact that so many of these mortgages were defaulting, far more than anybody anticipated.

The key here is something very simple. Thirty years ago, if you get a mortgage, you went to the bank and that bank frisked you pretty good before giving you the money, because the bank expected you to pay the bank back. And then we came up with one of these great financial innovations called securitization, which does do a lot of good. Under securitization, a mortgage lender lends money to a lot of people and does not expect to be repaid by them, but bundles up the right to be repaid by them and sells it to a lot of other people.

We forgot one simple thing: ... Most people are more careful with their own money than they are with other people's money, and the constraints on bad loans being made consisted of being expected to being paid back dissolved. And we haven't found a substitute. And that's what happened. So many bad loans were made that they got dispersed and weakened everybody.

And the other factor was this. The assumption was, "OK, well, maybe this individual won't be able to repay her loan. We will just take her house and we will sell it to somebody else." Then the problem became that the prices of houses dropped so much so that the loans were now more than the house was worth. So if someone defaulted on his loan, you couldn't make up for that default by taking the house, because the house wasn't worth what the loan was. That is what caused it.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

Speaking of antiquities. Classic Ernie Kovacs. Watch it all, dammit!

re: #19 RogueOne

Before I forget:

The Las Vegas Journal is doing a multi-part series on the police use of deadly force. Part 1 is titled:

Always Justified
[Link: www.lvrj.com...]

Apropos:

* Fox's Todd Starnes Suggests Occupy Wall St. Protesters Are "Domestic Terrorists"
* Hannity Thinks Pepper-Spraying Of UC-Davis Protesters Didn't "Cross The Line"
* Discussing Occupy Wall Street, Ann Coulter Says: "It Just Took A Few Shootings At Kent State To Shut That Down"

Stalin's daughter Lana Peters dies in US of cancer
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

Time for me to get to work. Enjoy the day folks!

And the host nation of the next COP (18) is....

(drumroll)

(it's a competition between Qatar and SK)

...

...

... Qatar.

Qatar, the nation with the highest per capita emissions of CO2:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #51 freetoken

Qatar, the nation with the highest per capita emissions of CO2:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

We have some pretty good LGF pages on Qatar, btw:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Just read on the BBC that Norway mass murderer Breivik has been declared insane and unfit for trial.

Fine, as long as he is kept locked away, I donÄt care if it in a prison or an insane asylum.

And this confirms my assertion that his politics were almost secondary, in another political or social context, he might well have found other reasons and motivations for committing mass murder.

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #53 ralphieboy

I wonder if a US court would have found him "insane"?

re: #53 ralphieboy

Just because someone in another situation may find other reasons or motivations for committing mass murder does not make politics secondary. Insanity itself though? Maybe, depending on the kind of insanity. I doesn't seem that in Breivik's case insanity trumps politics. His manifesto is coherent, internally logical, and not delusional in the sense in which other such writings might be - e.g. he didn't hear voices, etc. His insanity seems to consist of lacking certain limits other people have.

lol
Image: lol_gop.jpg

Yeah, this diary by Markos has lots of good stuff on Cain's latest:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

re: #57 Sergey Romanov

Especially the ironic last bit.

WND Email Ad: Buy Guns Before Dictators, Forest Whitaker, and Barack Obama Enslave And Kill You

UPDATE: USAAmmo appears to have compared President Obama to Chinese dictator and mass murderer Mao Zedong, Soviet dictator and mass murderer Josef Stalin, German dictator and mass murderer Adolf Hitler, Cambodian dictator and mass murderer Pol Pot... and Academy Award-winning actor Forest Whitaker.

LOL

Democracy, South Ossetian style: the female candidate Alla Dzhioyeva beat the Kremlin's candidate Bibilov with 56% of the vote. Bibilov immediately sent a petition to the Supreme Court. The Court promptly (in 1 day or so) annulled the election results and barred Dzhioyeva from participating in elections since allegedly the alleged violations were from her side.

re: #60 Sergey Romanov

Democracy, South Ossetian style: the female candidate Alla Dhioyeva beat the Kremlin's candidate Bibilov with 56% of the vote. Bibilov immediate sent a petition to the Supreme Court. The Court promptly (in 1 day or so) annulled the election results and barred Dzhioyeva from participating in elections since allegedly the alleged violations were from her side.

WTF.
Oy.

re: #60 Sergey Romanov

Democracy, South Ossetian style: the female candidate Alla Dzhioyeva beat the Kremlin's candidate Bibilov with 56% of the vote. Bibilov immediately sent a petition to the Supreme Court. The Court promptly (in 1 day or so) annulled the election results and barred Dzhioyeva from participating in elections since allegedly the alleged violations were from her side.

Supreme Court of Russian Federation or Supreme Court of South Ossetia?

re: #62 000G

Supreme Court of Russian Federation or Supreme Court of South Ossetia?

Obviously, the latter.

kekeke

Dzhioyeva's supporters peacefully demonstrating in Tskhinvali: [Link: www.mk.ru...]

(The small irony of the situation is that both candidates, as well as the current President, are Russian citizens.)

Breaking: Iranian students storm UK Embassy in Tehran on Tuesday, replace the British flag with an Iranian one.

I see American Airlines has filed for protection.

Someone once told me that commercial aviation has during it's sum history never made money. It's always been subsidized somehow or it would go away?

Morning Lizardim. Did we get any tasty troll action in the open registration thread last night after I left?

re: #68 freetoken

I see American Airlines has filed for protection.

Someone once told me that commercial aviation has during it's sum history never made money. It's always been subsidized somehow or it would go away?

I believe American Airlines was the last major US airline that had not gone into Chapter 11 mode yet. I think this goes a long way to explain their shitty equipment, as well as things like the tax-pocketing when the FAA was incapitated.

Rant mode on!

You level up way too freaking fast in Skyrim.

Rand mode off!

re: #55 Sergey Romanov

Just because someone in another situation may find other reasons or motivations for committing mass murder does not make politics secondary. Insanity itself though? Maybe, depending on the kind of insanity. I doesn't seem that in Breivik's case insanity trumps politics. His manifesto is coherent, internally logical, and not delusional in the sense in which other such writings might be - e.g. he didn't hear voices, etc. His insanity seems to consist of lacking certain limits other people have.

I think of this in relation to someone like Jared Loughner, the fellow who shot the US Congresswoman from Arizona. I believe that he has been declared insane but sent to therapy to get him sane enough to stand trial.

My hypothesis is simply that people who are insane and hate humanity will seek (and ultimately find) justification for abomidable acts wherever they can, in Breivik's case, he found the right-wing nationalist anti-jihad movement and used its ideology to justify his crimes against humanity.

re: #71 Varek Raith

Meh. Have you seen flying mammoths in Skyrim?

re: #59 Varek Raith

This brings us back to the central image and ideology of the Tea Party: armed rebellion against a tyranny.

That certainly applied to King George III, but as far as I know, Obama (along with the US government) has been elected freely and fairly. And accepting the results of free and fair elections is part of the duty of every citizen.

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

Meh. Have you seen flying mammoths in Skyrim?

Yep. That happened it Fallout 3 as well. Some poor sod gets launched a mile up and pancakes.
XD

re: #74 ralphieboy

This brings us back to the central image and ideology of the Tea party. armed rebellion against a tyranny.

That certainly applied to King George III, but as far as I know, Obama (and the US government) has been elected freely and fairly. And accepting the results of free and fair elections is part of the duty of every citizen.

NIRTH CERTIFIKIT! PATRIOTIC DISSENT! WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!?!?

re: #75 Varek Raith

Unfortunately it didn't pancake. I went near Redoran's retreat with Barbas because I've read somewhere that he's indestructible so I wanted to have some fun pitting him against 2 mammoths and a giant. So they were pummeling him, then one of the mammoths suddenly rose up 20-30m in the air, walked a bit there, then somehow came down (unharmed).
Later in the battle one of the mammoths somehow jumped on the back of another.
Oh monsters you so crazy.

re: #77 Sergey Romanov

Unfortunately it didn't pancake. I went near Redoran's retreat with Barbas because I've read somewhere that he's indestructible so I wanted to have some fun pitting him against 2 mammoths and a giant. So they were pummeling him, then one of the mammoths suddenly rose up 20-30m in the air, walked a bit there, then somehow came down (unharmed).
Later in the battle one of the mammoths somehow jumped on the back of another.
Oh monsters you so crazy.

Ah, I see.
What happened in my game was that a random mammoth just fell out of the sky and was killed on impact.
Lol.

re: #78 Varek Raith

Too bad it was not mine! //

re: #78 Varek Raith

You seen tumbling bear?

re: #78 Varek Raith

Ah, I see.
What happened in my game was that a random mammoth just fell out of the sky and was killed on impact.
Lol.

Shades of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Only with more fur.

re: #76 thedopefishlives

Granted, we have the right to freedom of speech, assembly and religion, but *not* the right to be delusional and act upon it...

re: #79 Sergey Romanov

Too bad it was not mine! //

Speaking of mammoths, I discovered that Stormcloaks in their camps will not engage giants in combat. They run away.
I think I'll support the empire after seeing that display.
:P

re: #80 Sergey Romanov

You seen tumbling bear?

Heh, yep.

re: #83 Varek Raith

The first time I'm playing I decided I'm with the Empire. Next time maybe the other side.

re: #84 Varek Raith

"Daddy, I want one for birfday!"

re: #82 ralphieboy

Granted, we have the right to freedom of speech, assembly and religion, but *not* the right to be delusional and act upon it...

Please, oh please, tell that to the climate change deniers.

re: #85 Sergey Romanov

The first time I'm playing I decided I'm with the Empire. Next time maybe the other side.

I've been hunting Imperial patrols for fun.

re: #88 Varek Raith

What type you're playing? I'm lazy, so I'm high elf mage. Zzzap.

re: #89 Sergey Romanov

What type you're playing? I'm lazy, so I'm high elf mage. Zzzap.

Argonian hunter type.
Bows for the initial attack and backstabs for close combat.

re: #90 Varek Raith

Argonian hunter type.
Bows for the initial attack and backstabs for close combat.

Figures! :P

re: #91 Sergey Romanov

Figures! :P

I've always excelled with assassin like characters in TES series.
From Daggerfall to Skyrim.

re: #92 Varek Raith

I've always excelled with assassin like characters in TES series.
From Daggerfall to Skyrim.

That's the kind of characters my wife likes to play. Me, I go more to the mage style of play. Complete with the swearing and the banging of the keyboard when my ally steps into the path of my incoming fireball and gets his ass nuked. I've learned to quicksave before throwing a ranged spell if there's any allies within sight distance.

BTW, you can get Arena and Daggerfall for free from Bethesda.

Very old, but fun.

re: #93 thedopefishlives

Fucking Lydia always does that!!1
/

re: #93 thedopefishlives

That's the kind of characters my wife likes to play. Me, I go more to the mage style of play. Complete with the swearing and the banging of the keyboard when my ally steps into the path of my incoming fireball and gets his ass nuked. I've learned to quicksave before throwing a ranged spell if there's any allies within sight distance.

Ah, I have fond memories of blowing up Alistair in Dragon Age.
It came to a point where I didn't care.
*Casts Storm of the Century*

re: #95 Sergey Romanov

Fucking Lydia always does that!!1
/

She really does.
As does my stupid horse.

re: #96 Varek Raith

Ah, I have fond memories of blowing up Alistair in Dragon Age.
It came to a point where I didn't care.
*Casts Storm of the Century*

During the final battle in Oblivion: Shivering Isles, I finally just said "screw it" and launched my massive area-effect nuke that basically kills everything within a 15-foot radius. All my enemies died. So did all the guards that were fighting them. Oh well, free weapons/armor!

nerdgasm!

re: #97 Varek Raith

She really does.
As does my stupid horse.

Does it still count as assault if you hit your horse?

re: #98 thedopefishlives

*shrug* Collateral damage, whachagonnado.

re: #101 Sergey Romanov

*shrug* Collateral damage, whachagonnado.

Ever hear of the Locate City Bomb in D&D?

In 3.5, a wizard can use a number of feats to make almost any spell dangerously explosive. Combine this with the spell "Locate City", which has a range of HUNDREDS OF MILES, and the results speak for themselves. The "locate city bomb" works like this: take Locate City (range: 10 miles/level), apply Snowcasting (making it [cold]), apply Flash Frost (adding 2 cold damage to everything in the area), apply Energy Substitution to make it electric, apply Born of the Three Thunders to change damage type and add a reflex save to avoid half the damage, then apply Explosive Spell, forcing a Reflex save vs being blasted to the edge of the area, taking 1d6 of damage per 10 feet traveled (so, at the center, it's 5280d6/level of falling damgage). It's actually much trickier for a Wizard to pull this off than for a Sorcerer to do the same, owing to the interaction of feats which can't be applied until the spell is actually cast and a Wizard's need to prepare spells in advance.

re: #102 Varek Raith

Never played D&D.

re: #100 thedopefishlives

Does it still count as assault if you hit your horse?

I don't think so.

re: #103 Sergey Romanov

Never played D&D.

That trick, which is rather questionable as to the 'legality' depending on who you ask, can kill almost everyone in the city it's targeted at.

re: #105 Varek Raith

Loophole?

re: #106 Sergey Romanov

Loophole?

To a degree, yes.
Me?
I don't mind anyone in my games attempting it. Mainly because it is really hard to pull off.

re: #107 Varek Raith

To a degree, yes.
Me?
I don't mind anyone in my games attempting it. Mainly because it is really hard to pull off.

What's the point of laboring for years to achieve Archmage status, if you can't then obliterate distant cities with a wave of your extravagantly-manicured hand?

I have no idea what anyone is talking about. Have I stumbled into the wrong forum?

re: #108 Alouette

I have no idea what anyone is talking about. Have I stumbled into the wrong forum?

Morning, Alouette. No worries, we're all just geeking out down here. An infusion of non-geekdom will possibly bring us to heel.

Heh. From an email my brother sent me:
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Subject Dummies guide to what went wrong in Europe. & America

Helga is the proprietor of a bar.

She realizes that virtually all of her customers are unemployed alcoholics and, as such, can no longer afford to patronize her bar.

To solve this problem, she comes up with a new marketing plan that allows her customers to drink now, but pay later.

Helga keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger (thereby granting the customers' loans).

Word gets around about Helga's "drink now, pay later" marketing strategy and, as a result, increasing numbers of customers flood into Helga's bar. Soon she has the largest sales volume for any bar in town.

By providing her customers freedom from immediate payment demands, Helga gets no resistance when, at regular intervals, she substantially increases her prices for wine and beer, the most consumed beverages.

Consequently, Helga's gross sales volume increases massively.

A young and dynamic vice-president at the local bank recognizes that these customer debts constitute valuable future assets and increases Helga's Borrowing limit.

He sees no reason for any undue concern, since he has the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral!!!

At the bank's corporate headquarters, expert traders figure a way to make huge commissions, and transform these customer loans into DRINKBONDS.

These "securities" then are bundled and traded on international securities markets.

Naive investors don't really understand that the securities being sold to them as "AA" "Secured Bonds" really are debts of unemployed alcoholics.

Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb!!!, and the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for some of the nation's leading brokerage houses.

One day, even though the bond prices still are climbing, a risk manager at the original local bank decides that the time has come to demand payment on the debts incurred by the drinkers at Helga's bar. He so informs Helga.

Helga then demands payment from her alcoholic patrons, but being unemployed alcoholics they cannot pay back their drinking debts.

Since Helga cannot fulfill her loan obligations she is forced into bankruptcy. The bar closes and Helga's 11 employees lose their jobs.

Overnight, DRINKBOND prices drop by 90%. The collapsed bond asset value destroys the bank's liquidity and prevents it from issuing new loans, thus freezing credit and economic activity in the community.

The suppliers of Helga's bar had granted her generous payment extensions and had invested their firms' pension funds in the BOND securities. They find they are now faced with having to write off her bad debt and with losing over 90% of the presumed value of the bonds.

Her wine supplier also claims bankruptcy, closing the doors on a family business that had endured for three generations, her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 150 workers. Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses and their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a multi-billion dollar no-strings attached cash infusion from the government.

The funds required for this bailout are obtained by new taxes levied on employed, middle-class, non-drinkers who have never been in Helga's bar.

Now do you understand?

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A bit simplistic, but actually one of the better versions of an explanation I've seen so far.

re: #110 thedopefishlives

What are LGF discussions if not political geekery? So infusing it with some gaming geekery doesn't change the geek level :P

re: #112 Sergey Romanov

What are LGF discussions if not political geekery? So infusing it with some gaming geekery doesn't change the geek level :P

Hey, I'm not complaining. It's nice to have people who actually know what I'm talking about when I wax poetic about the travails of shooting people I'm supposed to protect with sparkly balls of magical energy.

re: #109 Alouette

I have no idea what anyone is talking about. Have I stumbled into the wrong forum?

Here ya go.

re: #113 thedopefishlives

Yay, Sparks is my favorite spell in Skyrim :P

re: #111 oaktree

as long as Helga is too big to fail...

re: #116 ralphieboy

as long as Helga is too big to fail...

Well, note from the comment that Helga was allowed to go under, but the banks got a bailout.

re: #114 rwdflynavy

Here ya go.

[Video]

I hate laugh tracks. Hated them since I was a kid and hated them on "Giligan's Island" and "Beverly Hillbillies."

Why do they have laugh tracks on TV shows? It's just so freakin irritating. I NEVER watch comedy shows for that reason.

Well, I do watch "House." That's pretty funny, but at least they don't have a laugh track.

re: #111 oaktree

Brilliant, just perfect. May I copy and FB that?

Mr. Herman Cain,
You're a lying cheating bastard!
Save your money and your breath...
GO HOME and save your MARRIAGE!!
...13 years??
..P.S...F'K YOU!!
signed,Faithful Husband

re: #118 Alouette

I hate laugh tracks. Hated them since I was a kid and hated them on "Giligan's Island" and "Beverly Hillbillies."

Why do they have laugh tracks on TV shows? It's just so freakin irritating. I NEVER watch comedy shows for that reason.

Well, I do watch "House." That's pretty funny, but at least they don't have a laugh track.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It started as a carry-over from live radio audiences. And then it was discovered that shows polled better with laugh tracks then without. And the writing changed to allow post-production stuff like laugh tracks to be added. So it's an artifact that was discovered to be attractive from a marketing perspective.

I dislike them as well since they're annoying and manipulative.

re: #120 reloadingisnotahobby

It may be a bit too late to save that marriage at that point. Of course, one also has to assume that any woman that would marry him would be suitably browbeaten into submission.

re: #119 Rightwingconspirator

Brilliant, just perfect. May I copy and FB that?

Go ahead. My brother got it from somewhere else. A google search might turn up the origin.

re: #121 oaktree

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It started as a carry-over from live radio audiences. And then it was discovered that shows polled better with laugh tracks then without. And the writing changed to allow post-production stuff like laugh tracks to be added. So it's an artifact that was discovered to be attractive from a marketing perspective.

I dislike them as well since they're annoying and manipulative.

I'd be fine with them if they were forced to use them on Fox News.

Mornin' all..

re: #122 thedopefishlives

...she may greet him at the door with a weapon,or
she knew he was serial womanizer!
...but who cares at this point!
...spit...

re: #126 reloadingisnotahobby

Cain is an incompetent fool. But in general with affairs, the red line is did the wife get lied to or was there an understanding about outside affairs. To me the immorality is not the sex it's the lies and deceit. Broken promises.

I wonder what the voters reaction would be to a candidate with a swinging (or gay with an understanding wife) lifestyle otherwise well qualified for public office. I suspect that would be too much for most to accept.

I liked the point how adultery is still a misdemeanor in GA. I'm, of course, against legislating morality. However, in this case they should prosecute ;)

re: #127 Rightwingconspirator

The bottom line will be how she feels about the affairs being made public. She had to know he was a sexual predator. You can't hide that kind of shit for 40 years when you don't see anything wrong with it(and Cain's responses have indicated just that).

If the public humiliation is greater than the private resentment, she could leave him.

re: #129 darthstar

The bottom line will be how she feels about the affairs being made public. She had to know he was a sexual predator. You can't hide that kind of shit for 40 years when you don't see anything wrong with it(and Cain's responses have indicated just that).

If the public humiliation is greater than the private resentment, she could leave him.

And as a pizza exec he should have a lot of dough...
(goes and hides)

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart: Spray It Forward

That's not to say that all sexist pigs cheat on their wives...Cain should release a statement to that effect...for Romney's sake.

The Iranian news agency that reported that six people working at the British embassy's compound in northern Tehran had been taken hostage have withdrawn the report from its website with no explanation.

The semi-official Mehr news agency initially said: "Students from universities in Tehran took hostage six people working for the British embassy in Qolhak garden," referring to the leafy compound that protesters stormed earlier this afternoon.

Sometimes I wish I was Jewish...I fucking love Chinese food.
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Just took a look at the alliances running in the Egypt elections: Basically, it's left-liberals, revolutionary socialists, openly theocratic salafists, and veiled-to-moderated theocratic muslim brotherhood.
[Link: prospectjournal.ucsd.edu...]

Should be interesting.

re: #133 Sergey Romanov

Where's Ronald Reagan when they need him? Just offer to sell the Iranians some missiles and the issue will be settled....

re: #135 000G

The Guardian has a neat interactive breakdown of the parties, the coalitions, and what they stand for:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

re: #134 darthstar

Sometimes I wish I was Jewish...I fucking love Chinese food.
Image: 321160_10150985681970296_507340295_21708100_664570958_n.jpg

No kosher Chinese restaurant where I live, so I have learned to cook my own!

My son-in-law just called from Israel. IT'S A BOY!

re: #139 Alouette

My son-in-law just called from Israel. IT'S A BOY!

YYAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!

#29, iirc???

re: #139 Alouette

YAY! Name?

re: #140 sattv4u2

YYAAAYYY!!!

#29, iirc???

Correct.

re: #111 oaktree

except that in real life the unemployed alcoholics weren't unemployed and their debt was backed by real estate, that dropped in value, but still had value.

re: #141 Sergey Romanov

YAY! Name?

No name till the bris but I'm expecting them to name after my dad.

re: #144 Alouette

Ah!

re: #144 Alouette

No name till the bris.

beebee!!!!!!!!

She wanted a girl. This is her 4th son.

re: #147 Alouette

She wanted a girl.

Girl . .Boy . .All babies are wonderful.

Everyone healthy?

re: #148 ggt

Girl . .Boy . .All babies are wonderful.

Everyone healthy?

SUPER!

Blustery in my part of the world today. I can hear the wind ripping around the corner of the house. Dogs are at the sliding glass door watching the leaves they want to catch.

re: #150 ggt

Blustery in my part of the world today. I can hear the wind ripping around the corner of the house. Dogs are at the sliding glass door watching the leaves they want to catch.

and barking

re: #148 ggt

Girl . .Boy . .All babies are wonderful.

Everyone healthy?

I've got the sniffles

Thanks for asking!!

/

re: #152 sattv4u2

"I'm super!
Thanks for asking!"
(c) Al

Morning, all. The latest from Andy Borowitz:

Poll: 28% Think Cain Had Affair; 28% Don’t Think Cain Had Affair; 44% Having Affair with Cain Right Now

Millions of Exes Could Spell Trouble for Candidate

MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report) – In a new poll of likely GOP voters, 28% think Herman Cain had an extramarital affair, 28% do not think he had an affair, and 44% are having an affair with Herman Cain right now.

Of the voters currently having sex with Mr. Cain, 52% called the relationship “special,” 38% called it “inappropriate,” and 10% agreed with the statement “I know I am Herman’s soul mate and someday we’ll be together.”

According to Davis Logsdon, who conducted the poll for the University of Minnesota’s Opinion Research Institute, the numbers could spell trouble for the former pizza executive: “There is no precedent for a successful White House run by a man with over ten million exes.”

In an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer today, Mr. Cain seemed to brush off the latest development, saying, “Now you know why I got your name wrong, Blitz – I have a lot of names to keep straight in my head.”

Mr. Cain added, “My message to the American people remains the same, and that message is, ‘I told you not to call me here.’”

But later in the day Mr. Cain got a got a harsh scolding from Republican frontrunner Newt Gingrich: “If Herman is in fact having sex with millions of Americans, he needs to do the right thing and marry them.”

re: #152 sattv4u2

I've got the sniffles

Thanks for asking!!

/

I'm feeling better today, thanks for asking!

Still have a little headache and not so lousy feeling.

Newt has a record of clashing with the Right

OH PLEASE!

One of the interviewees said they think Newt thinks of himself as a benevolent dictator. I agree.

Perfect comparison, IMHO.

How about:

I am the 99% not having an affair with Cain.

re: #157 BigPapa

You mean, 1% do? That's how many? /

BREAKING: Cain ‘Reassessing’ Candidacy

In a conference call this morning, Herman Cain told his senior staff that he is “reassessing” whether to remain in the race. He told them he will make his final decision “over the next several days.”

re: #159 Killgore Trout

BREAKING: Cain ‘Reassessing’ Candidacy

That's it, then. He's done.

That's too bad: he was fun.

re: #158 Sergey Romanov

You mean, 1% do? That's how many? /

Minor quibble!

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Quite predictable. I wonder if he will endorse Newt.

Conrad Murray, the doctor that was convicted in the Michael Jackson case, his lawyers just asked that his sentencing (today) not be televised nor audio recorded

The judge ,,,, REQUEST DENIED

re: #161 BigPapa

Minor quibble!

Several millions is minor?!1

///

re: #162 Sergey Romanov

Quite predictable. I wonder if he will endorse Newt.

Whether he does or doesn't, it would seem that Newt is the big beneficiary here. Cain voter are anti-Romney voters, so they can only go to Newt or Perry (or one of the whackos, which is always possible with this field).

re: #160 garhighway

That's it, then. He's done.

That's too bad: he was fun.

I'm pretty sick of him and will be glad to see him gone.

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sick of him and will be glad to see him gone.

but now we will never find out who is the leader of Ubekibekibekistan is...

re: #164 Sergey Romanov

Several millions is minor?!1

///

I am the .04587% not having an affair with Cain just doesn't roll off the tongue as well. I just rounded up!

I invoke the Kyl Klause: Not meant to be a factual statement.

Police increasing patrols of Occupy protests in D.C.

The National Park Service handed out fliers Friday that cited public urination and defecation, illegal drug and alcohol use, and assaults at the two encampments. The park service also says improper trash disposal has led to rodent sightings.

Occupy D.C. participants in McPherson Square have not issued any official response to the fliers. But organizers of the Stop the Machine protest in nearby Freedom Plaza say they are treating the fliers as "a threat of eviction and arrest."

Park Service spokeswoman Carol Johnson says complaints from neighbors, mostly around McPherson Square, led the park service to hand out the fliers.

re: #150 ggt
Not called the 'Windy City' for nothin!!
Bad hair day alert.....

re: #170 reloadingisnotahobby

Not called the 'Windy City' for nothin!!
Bad hair day alert...

I used to work in downtown Chicago. I had to be careful because a strong just of wind would actually freeze my contact lenses to my eyeballs. It's a tough city.

Kucinich calls for reassessment of NATO after Pakistan bombing

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) on Monday evening said the U.S. should reconsider its support for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) after a NATO-led airstrike killed more than two dozen Pakistani soldiers and injured others near the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"Reports indicate that NATO is bracing itself for reprisal attacks on coalition forces in Afghanistan," Kucinich said. "This means U.S. forces will be at increased risk. The U.S. cannot expect to achieve stability in Afghanistan and the region while NATO, with impunity, conducts reckless actions that directly undermine the security of the Pakistani people and jeopardize U.S.-Pakistani relations."

Kucinich called for a full and transparent investigation into the bombing and said NATO owes reparations to the families of the killed soldiers. He also said Congress needs to reassess its support for NATO.

"How useful is an alliance which destabilizes friendly governments, kills innocent people and creates international provocations?" he asked.

re: #172 NJDhockeyfan

why does he consider Pakistan a "friendly" government?

re: #172 NJDhockeyfan

Kucinich? Blowhard grandstanding.

re: #172 NJDhockeyfan

Kucinich calls for reassessment of NATO after Pakistan bombing

Idiot Ron Paul was bitching yesterday about sanctions on Iran.....
Ron Paul: Free Trade, Not Sanctions, Will Solve Iran Nuclear Crisis

Had an interesting early morning here. Three episodes of gunfire in the complex. Cops did not leave until after 8:00 am local. No one injured as far as I have found out. Most likely the local gang bangers having a dispute.

re: #175 Killgore Trout

Idiot Ron Paul was bitching yesterday about sanctions on Iran...
Ron Paul: Free Trade, Not Sanctions, Will Solve Iran Nuclear Crisis

How do these morons continue to get elected?

Paul/Kucinich 2012!

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

Really, really dumb voters.

re: #176 dell*nix

Had an interesting early morning here. Three episodes of gunfire in the complex. Cops did not leave until after 8:00 am local. No one injured as far as I have found out. Most likely the local gang bangers having a dispute.

...have you considered MOVING!!!
Damn...tough hood!
I here shots all the time....It's Duck season in central Utah.
.

re: #165 garhighway

Whether he does or doesn't, it would seem that Newt is the big beneficiary here. Cain voter are anti-Romney voters, so they can only go to Newt or Perry (or one of the whackos, which is always possible with this field).

Newt has been wisely making nice with Cain and his (dwindling) supporters for a while now, agreeing to that one-on-one debate and not bailing on it once the allegations emerged...this is another step toward cementing Newt as THE anti-Romney in the primaries.

re: #179 reloadingisnotahobby

Most of the shots here are seasonal (4 Jul and New Years). Only lately have they gotten in the complex.

re: #179 reloadingisnotahobby

...have you considered MOVING!!!
Damn...tough hood!
I here shots all the time...It's Duck season in central Utah.
.

No, it's wabbit season!
//

re: #139 Alouette

My son-in-law just called from Israel. IT'S A BOY!

Many congratulations, Alouette.

Just in time for Christmas!

'Pin-Ups for Ron Paul' 2012 Calendar

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

Gonna have to stock up on powder and primers. Got enough lead and cartridge cases in storage. Need to break out the moulds and resizing gear.

re: #185 dell*nix

...So your a loader??

re: #186 reloadingisnotahobby

Used to. Still have all the gear. Need to fire off all my reloads as they are a bit old. Lawyer says to use store bought for self defense though.

re: #184 NJDhockeyfan

Just in time for Christmas!

'Pin-Ups for Ron Paul' 2012 Calendar

WHY?

re: #187 dell*nix

Lawyer says to use store bought for self defense though.

Really..?I wonder what the diff... is ...

re: #189 reloadingisnotahobby

Really..?I wonder what the diff... is ...

Liability

re: #188 ggt

WHY?

Heh...they have a video!

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

Heh...they have a video!

[Video]

NO!

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

Heh...they have a video!

[Video]

JUST . SAY . NO . !

re: #189 reloadingisnotahobby

Other lawyers in a civil suit. You can clear an inquest or grand jury and still be sued by the injured perp or his next of kin for "using overpowered ammo". Use of store bought defense ammo helps to deflect some of that.

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

No, it's wabbit season!
//

re: #194 dell*nix

Remeber to buy your loading components with CASH ONLY!
...if your in Calif...Buy out of state..;-)

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

Heh...they have a video!

[Video]

That video screams 'lame.' The music is awful.

re: #180 bratwurst

Newt has been wisely making nice with Cain and his (dwindling) supporters for a while now, agreeing to that one-on-one debate and not bailing on it once the allegations emerged...this is another step toward cementing Newt as THE anti-Romney in the primaries.

I think Newt wins. If he gets the Cain voters, then as you say, he becomes the anti-Romney, and he wins Iowa. That gives him the big Mo for NH. If he wins there, he'll win SC and it is game over.

re: #198 garhighway

I think Newt wins. If he gets the Cain voters, then as you say, he becomes the anti-Romney, and he wins Iowa. That gives him the big Mo for NH. If he wins there, he'll win SC and it is game over.

LMAO if this happens.
XD

re: #197 makeitstop

That video screams 'lame.' The music is awful.

Stolen from a porn flick perhaps?

re: #196 reloadingisnotahobby

I live in Houston so supplies are a matter of availability only. Reloads are good for lots of practice. Also double action only is a good thought. Cocking the hammer can lead to accidental discharge. And make sure the trigger pull is within factory recomended ranges. Too light a pull can get you in trouble. A smooth pull in proper weight limits is better.

re: #200 NJDhockeyfan

Stolen from a porn flick perhaps?

Hey, classic porno music is a lot better than that.

re: #202 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hey, classic porno music is a lot better than that.

[Video]

You no doubt had that bookmarked for just such an occasion.

re: #203 Varek Raith

You no doubt had that bookmarked for just such an occasion.

No...

re: #200 NJDhockeyfan

Stolen from a porn flick perhaps?

No idea! The lyrics (at least the ones I could make out) were creepy - 'Follow me, I'll set you free...'

I wonder if someone wrote that just for Luap Nor. I may have to force myself to listen to it again.

re: #203 Varek Raith

You no doubt had that bookmarked for just such an occasion.

still tired?

re: #201 dell*nix

Too light a pull can get you in trouble. A smooth pull in proper weight limits is better.

...Opps...
All Hail Texas!!

re: #206 ggt

still tired?

Nope.
Headache's back though.

Anymore news on the 2nd Iran Hostage Crisis?

Also, I might have to get Skyrim. If only for the awesome glitches. The creators outright stated that, unless it is gamebreaking, the more amusing ones will not be fixed.

So the Giants launching things into orbit, the teleporting deer, the flying mammoth, and the the bucket of stealing will stay.

re: #208 Varek Raith

Nope.
Headache's back though.

I'm home sick today. What I thought were allergies has turned into a massive head cold.

re: #209 ProLifeLiberal

Anymore news on the 2nd Iran Hostage Crisis?

Also, I might have to get Skyrim. If only for the awesome glitches. The creators outright stated that, unless it is gamebreaking, the more amusing ones will not be fixed.

So the Giants launching things into orbit, the teleporting deer, the flying mammoth, and the the bucket of stealing will stay.

Bethesda needs to just release the Creation Kit already.
I'll fix the game myself. Like I did in Morrowind. And Oblivion. And Fallout 3. And Fallout New Vegas.
See a pattern?
:P

re: #211 Varek Raith

But I wouldn't want to fix any of that. It gives the game some LOLz.

re: #207 reloadingisnotahobby

Prosecutors in some places just love a light pull when it can get them votes.

re: #208 Varek Raith

Nope.
Headache's back though.

Sorry!

Mine's abated for now.

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm home sick today. What I thought were allergies has turned into a massive head cold.

Seems to be the status quo.

Kid's turned into a nasty sinus infection.

I suspect I have one brewing as well.

I have to go soon.

If HoosierHoops shows up, ask him to read my Post. I thought of Winston when I posted it.

re: #211 Varek Raith

Bethesda needs to just release the Creation Kit already.
I'll fix the game myself. Like I did in Morrowind. And Oblivion. And Fallout 3. And Fallout New Vegas.
See a pattern?
:P

To be duly weaponized I'm sure.

Dwarf Fortress has shown me that even the most mundane appearing feature, animal or item can be turned into a tree-hugging hippy elf slaying deathtrap given sufficient creativity. Especially kittens.

re: #217 oaktree

To be duly weaponized I'm sure.

Dwarf Fortress has shown me that even the most mundane appearing feature, animal or item can be turned into a tree-hugging hippy elf slaying deathtrap given sufficient creativity. Especially kittens.

I'm fond of the magma traps I created.
BURN GOBLIN!!!

re: #216 ggt

I have to go soon.

If HoosierHoops shows up, ask him to read my Post. I thought of Winston when I posted it.

Very nice story...

re: #218 Varek Raith

I'm fond of the magma traps I created.
BURN GOBLIN!!!

I like them as well since they reduce clean-up requirements in the access tunnels. Having a dragon *swim* across one was a bit annoying - but he had an encounter with a giant iron axe blade shortly thereafter.

re: #219 HoosierHoops

Very nice story...

Ah, you were here all along!

re: #218 Varek Raith

Someone need to put footage of a giant launching a sabre-toothed cat to the song "I believe I can fly."

I always tell my kids, "if you have a gaming question, we can ask on LGF."

re: #209 ProLifeLiberal

Anymore news on the 2nd Iran Hostage Crisis?

Last I heard the Brits are safe...

'Iran police secures release of UK embassy hostages'

6 British embassy employees freed after being taken hostage by protesting students in northern Tehran, FARS reports; police fire tear gas to disperse crowds at central embassy compound.

re: #222 ProLifeLiberal

Something along the lines of this?

re: #223 prairiefire

I always tell my kids, "if you have a gaming question, we can ask on LGF."

some of the young people I know are quite impressed I know a little about WOW.

re: #147 Alouette

She wanted a girl. This is her 4th son.

Yes, but they'll try again. My friends, they have two and they're done.

;)