Here’s the politically-connected representative of the American “Family” Association again, Bryan Fischer, explaining that God loves Christopher Hitchens so much that He sent Hitchens to burn in hellfire and be tortured by malevolent demons, for all eternity.
I guess the term for that is “tough love.”
Youtube Video(h/t: Right Wing Watch.)
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theheat Sat, Dec 17, 2011 11:48:56am |
In that case (he goes to hell), Hitchens would say, "Move over, there's a new sheriff in town."
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 17, 2011 11:49:44am |
Kurt Vonnegut at Asimov's funeral:
"Isaac is with God now."
Brought down the house.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 11:50:20am |
Let's assume he didn't repent? He believes that he did?
BTW, the idea of an eternal punishment in hell is, of course, incompatible with a moral, all-loving and omni-benevolent god. It's a devil, not a god that would allow such a thing to exist.
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jaunte Sat, Dec 17, 2011 11:52:32am |
Torture fantasies rot the mind. Fischer is a good example of the long-term effects.
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 17, 2011 11:56:50am |
re: #3 Sergey Romanov
Let's assume he didn't repent? He believes that he did?
BTW, the idea of an eternal punishment in hell is, of course, incompatible with a moral, all-loving and omni-benevolent god. It's a devil, not a god that would allow such a thing to exist.
Blasphemy! Join Hitch in hell!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 11:57:47am |
re: #5 austin_blue
Blasphemy! Join Hitch in hell!
We'll quench the fires with beer and will throw satan and his minions back to heaven, where they belong!
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jaunte Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:00:08pm |
re: #3 Sergey Romanov
It's a devil, not a god that would allow such a thing to exist.
Fischer has low standards of worship.
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William of Orange Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:08:37pm |
So if Hitchens went that way, Fischer will go the other?
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The Questionable Timing of a Flea Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:08:57pm |
It says a lot about a person when they twist their definition of "love" such that it justifies punitive cruelty and infliction of pain. Even more when they project it all onto their god-concept.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:10:17pm |
Fischer is saying God would not be able to make Hitchens happy in heaven, that to allow him in there with all those believers would be cruel to him. Pretty weak interpretation of omnipotence, I think. And if there is a God, and Hitchens met him in person after he died, even he could become a believer, I would think. Although that's too late, from what little I know about Christian theology. When I was becoming a skeptic, I figured any God that I would want to spend eternity with would accept me just on the basis of my being a pretty good person. Now I figure it's most likely an indifferent Universe out there, which is better than being wherever Fischer is going to be.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:22:24pm |
Fischer Logic: if parents love their children, they will do everything the children ask for.
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Obdicut Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:22:54pm |
Anyone talking about how they know that God did this or that creeps me out. Even when they're talking about something positive, but especially when they're talking about the harsh fates of others.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:28:20pm |
I got a theory that should satisfy the thumpers. Global Warming is due to leaky Hell (too many sinners). It's biblical, so it's true!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:29:11pm |
the fincklestien occupy video is really really bad
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:30:15pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
I dozed off on minute 5 or so. It's "Finkelstein", btw :P
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:30:30pm |
wrong thread, sorry. listening to holocaust denial and eating sardines is too much to keep track of
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:32:52pm |
The spitting upon Hitchens grave is coming from all sides now. This one from Bryan Fischer is laughable. None of them could stand 2 minutes in a debate with Hitchens. These are cowardly and ignorant men.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:35:52pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
wrong thread, sorry. listening to holocaust denial and eating sardines is too much to keep track of
Sardines are "brain food". That should help.
/
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:36:38pm |
@RickWarren: My friend Christopher Hitc ...
My friend Christopher Hitchens has died. I loved & prayed for him constantly & grieve his loss. He knows the Truth now.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:36:55pm |
If I were to design a supreme being I would make it so there would be room in heaven for the likes of Hitchens and others like him.
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gummitch Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:37:27pm |
Hitchens would have laughed hysterically at this, were he alive. Since he is dead, he has no reaction at all and that would include not burning in Hell.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:37:44pm |
This says it all.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:37:58pm |
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:39:49pm |
re: #21 gummitch
Hitchens would have laughed hysterically at this, were he alive. Since he is dead, he has no reaction at all and that would include not burning in Hell.
We should probably ask Fischer and others of his ilk to prove it then.
[Complete silence would follow.]
Of course we know "their" answer and it would be something akin to having "faith" that Hitchens is indeed "burning in hell."
The fantasy continues.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:40:00pm |
Fischer's a jerk. Rest easy Hitchens, hopefully there's plenty of scotch there.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:41:05pm |
re: #20 Gus 802
If I were to design a supreme being I would make it so there would be room in heaven for the likes of Hitchens and others like him.
That's why I find the Mormon eschatology more logical than most mainstream concepts. Most people don't go to the "hell" in it, the murderers do reside in something called "outer darkness", while the rest are sorted through three degrees of celestial glory.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:41:12pm |
re: #19 Charles
Rick Warren: a man of super human abilities. A demi-god that can see into an alleged unknown void.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:42:11pm |
The funny thing for me someone Hitchens could call a believer. (My religious views are close to Jefferson's) has that I've ben defending his legacy most among liberal friends who are atheists yet don't like Hitchens because of the war support. I opposed the war too but I won't hate Hitchens for supporting it any more than I respect Buchanan or Paul for opposing it.
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Sionainn Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:42:42pm |
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Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:46:06pm |
I guess the term for that is “tough love.”
I prefer "morally bankrupt religious faith."
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:46:43pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:47:58pm |
re: #33 Gus 802
I didn't know Warren was this classless.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:48:48pm |
re: #34 Sergey Romanov
I didn't know Warren was this classless.
Didn't his ministry support that hideous bill in Uganda?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:49:37pm |
re: #35 HappyWarrior
Didn't his ministry support that hideous bill in Uganda?
[Link: www.time.com...]
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:50:19pm |
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:53:48pm |
re: #34 Sergey Romanov
I didn't know Warren was this classless.
The response of course is a bit of a cliche. Almost like he's been conditioned to make such a comment. The idea of course is absurd that someone would burn in such a human created environment of hell for all of eternity. Seems like it would be a rather harsh punishment for having an opinion and writing books. But there are others in the secular world who are claiming that Hitchens has "blood on his hands" which is itself a form of moral judgement from the living against the dead. Where were these very same people when bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, or Gaddafi died?
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Kronocide Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:56:10pm |
My friend Christopher Hitchens has died. I loved & prayed for him constantly & grieve his loss.He knows the Truth now.Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.
What a dick.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:56:29pm |
Warren on heaven, hell and everything:
[Link: www.christianpost.com...]
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:57:16pm |
re: #40 Sergey Romanov
Warren on heaven, hell and everything:
[Link: www.christianpost.com...]
Ah. So he's just like Oprah.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:58:49pm |
re: #38 Gus 802
Infinite punishment against finite crimes is infinite injustice.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 12:59:36pm |
If you gave Bryan Fischer an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:00:31pm |
re: #43 Gus 802
If you gave Bryan Fischer an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.
Yeah, and poison the environment with the enema? Nothanks.
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:00:55pm |
tough love
it's time the 'job creators' got some tough love
if we keep coddling them while they fail to create any jobs, we'll just be enabling an expensive welfare overclass
we would only be being merciful if we let them feel the consequences of their failure and took away the big tax breaks we gave them specifically to encourage them to create jobs
how else will they learn not to fail?
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:01:51pm |
re: #44 Sergey Romanov
Yeah, and poison the environment with the enema? Nothanks.
He's already poisoning the environment.
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Atlas Fails Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:02:20pm |
Carried over from the last thread...
goodbye Occupy, at least for now. Thank you for drawing attention to economic inequality, but fuck you for becoming a parody of yourself with all the Bradley Manning support/NDAA hysteria. Maybe you'll salvage your original message, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:02:57pm |
re: #43 Gus 802
If you gave Bryan Fischer an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.
said Hitchens about Falwell (for those who don't know).
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:03:07pm |
re: #47 Atlas Fails
Could happen in the spring, but would require lots of work, not sure anyone will be up to the task.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:03:47pm |
Fischer thinks he's God, and that is why he's allowed to determine judgment of folks? Fischer better be careful about trying to usurp that role.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:04:40pm |
re: #43 Gus 802
If you gave Bryan Fischer an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.
You should wait 'til he dies, though.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:05:24pm |
What an utterly ignorant scumbag. Who is he to make God into a sadistic child abuser?
Hitchens wasn't against God or Heaven. He didn't believe in them. He was against religion (Not the same thing as God or Heaven) for the same reason I am. Religions often quickly stop being theisms and start being ideologies. Ideology is not about being good but about being right. Plus they become sources of wealth and power to the unscrupulous.
Mr. Fischer is a prime example of that.
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Kronocide Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:07:38pm |
Fischer is in the wrong century. He'd have been much better off in Europe 500 years ago.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:08:00pm |
re: #42 Sergey Romanov
Infinite punishment against finite crimes is infinite injustice.
To these people eternity is 6,000 years.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:08:47pm |
re: #54 Naso Tang
To these people eternity is 6,000 years.
More like, 13+ billion years is 6000 years.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:08:56pm |
re: #47 Atlas Fails
Carried over from the last thread...
goodbye Occupy, at least for now. Thank you for drawing attention to economic inequality, but fuck you for becoming a parody of yourself with all the Bradley Manning support/NDAA hysteria. Maybe you'll salvage your original message, but I'm not holding my breath.
All day long yesterday they were kvetching about "teaching Obama a lesson in 2012" over at #NDAA. I'd like to see how those same alleged leftists would feel with a Gingrich or Romney presidency. Then suddenly I started seeing support for Ron Paul. All based on the alleged anti-war stance of Rep. Paul. No thought whatsoever being made regarding the true ideology of Ron Paul.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:11:13pm |
re: #56 Gus 802
> "teaching Obama a lesson in 2012"
Yeah, cut off your nose to spite your MIL: let her have an ugly SIL!
//
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Achilles Tang Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:12:08pm |
re: #55 Sergey Romanov
More like, 13+ billion years is 6000 years.
True, but I doubt he any real concept of big numbers, let alone infinity/eternity which isn't even a number.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:12:42pm |
re: #57 Sergey Romanov
> "teaching Obama a lesson in 2012"
Yeah, cut off your nose to spite your MIL: let her have an ugly SIL!
//
I was thinking about saying something but they'd probably "mic check" me.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:13:18pm |
re: #59 Gus 802
I was thinking about saying something but they'd probably "mic check" me.
//
Were you at a real gathering?
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:15:34pm |
re: #60 Sergey Romanov
Were you at a real gathering?
Nope. Been tempted all along. Not anymore. Well, not since they turned it into something about cops and stuff. Now of course that movement includes everything under the sun! Well, at least most of what you'd find at Indy Media. Talk about going off the rails and losing focus.
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dragonfire1981 Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:16:48pm |
A question I have often struggled with: If all fundamentalist Christians go to Heaven do I really want to go there too?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:17:36pm |
re: #56 Gus 802
I'd like to see how those same alleged leftists would feel with a Gingrich or Romney presidency.
What do you mean, a Gingrich or Romney pr-y? Everybody knows Kucinich will win!
/
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:18:55pm |
re: #63 Sergey Romanov
What do you mean, a Gingrich or Romney pr-y? Everybody knows Kucinich will win!
/
Kucinich/Gravel 2012! A winning combination.
Come on dude. 2012 is the year for Ron Paul.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:21:22pm |
re: #64 Gus 802
Kucinich/Gravel 2012! A winning combination.
Come on dude. 2012 is the year for Ron Paul.
//
- Psst, far left guys, how about this scheme: Obama/whoever 2012, Paul/Kucinich 2013?
- Doood, that's deep... might just work!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:21:42pm |
I keep getting booted to the front page when I try to upding comments or reply. Using Firefox, anyone else having trouble?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:22:14pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
Standard answer: try rebooting ;)
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:24:27pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
I keep getting booted to the front page when I try to upding comments or reply. Using Firefox, anyone else having trouble?
Just you.
'Cause you stink.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:25:17pm |
re: #65 Sergey Romanov
- Psst, far left guys, how about this scheme: Obama/whoever 2012, Paul/Kucinich 2013?
- Doood, that's deep... might just work!
Do these folks even vote? I've seen statistics that say otherwise. BTW it's been Greenwald that's been stoking the fires on NDAA. Over at Salon. They really idolize Greenwald. He of course has hated Obama since day one and would like nothing better than to see Obama lose in 2012.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:27:08pm |
re: #69 Gus 802
Not sure if he would like Obama to lose, but I guess he is in the "they're all alike" state of mind enough that he won't be aggrieved by that.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:27:42pm |
Re:#47 Atlas Fails
I think this was all pretty much inevitable. The spontaneous - grass roots appeal of OWS only goes so far into the agenda of the movement. The organizers and leadership were always in control and there was very little chance of the movement becoming so large that they'd be replaced.The movement will continue in some form or another, just like OWS is a continuation of previous lefty protest movements. They'll be back and the core agenda and direction isn't going to change very much.
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Syrius Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:28:45pm |
If there where a hell- the devil would have a restraining order against Hitchens! Hitchens words and voice live on in the minds of so many people. A great loss and pure pleasure to have had him in this world!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:29:14pm |
67
I did a cookie dump and reinstalled FF (which I needed to do anyways). I guess I'll try a reboot.
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:30:31pm |
re: #70 Sergey Romanov
Not sure if he would like Obama to lose, but I guess he is in the "they're all alike" state of mind enough that he won't be aggrieved by that.
Yeah. They're all alike. I'm sure that if McCain won he would have signed off on the DADT repeal.
//
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BishopX Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:30:41pm |
FYI, the finkelstien bit is about to0 become the next outrageous outrage. Breitbart has picked it up and is running with it. Retweets are about 10% of the #occupyboston feed right now.
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Mattand Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:33:56pm |
re: #19 Charles
When I saw that, I sent the following tweet to Ricky boy:
He knew the truth before he died, in that there's no God or afterlife. Man, you just had to get one last dig in, didn't you?*
Within a few hours, I had two of his flunkies start following me on Twitter: David Chrzan and Travis Ryan, both pastors at Saddleback.
I'm going to tweet them later and see if they're up for some hookers and blow. They can even go to Rentboy.com, if they want. Kinda curious to see how far I can push these guys.
*I get that not everyone here shares that opinion, which is fine. I just got cheesed at Warren's timing and implied smugness.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:35:03pm |
re: #75 BishopX
By now, who cares?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:35:22pm |
re: #76 mattand
Good move!
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:35:41pm |
Really they had Finklestein? Really I've felt conflicted about this movement and having Finklestein makes me glad that I really stay away from protests these days. Finklestein's an asshole of the highest order.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:37:27pm |
OT but does anyone know any Roma symbolism? Need an idea for my next tattoo and I am thinking about getting that but I don't know any Roma symbols.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:37:54pm |
"If the scriptures mean anything......."
Hogwash, Fischer. The common vision of Hell as a place of eternal and limitless torment is a myth, a gruesome fairy tale invented to frighten people into accepting Pascal's wager. The scriptures cited to justify this invention are thin on the ground, out of context, and distinctly less specific than the common terror-tale. Even in Dante's time, when the hell-myth had already had several centuries of embellishment, it was not commonly seen as entailing unlimited pain for all the unrepentant. Remember the "virtuous pagans," who lived eternal lives of comfort in the highest level?
Fischer and other fire and brimstone fundamentalists are not above elaborating the scriptures themselves when it suits their never-ending quest for power and money.
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Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:38:54pm |
re: #39 BigPapa
What a dick.
Back in the day of alt.atheism, I used to debate 'fundies' to no discernible end. When one of them would say "I'll pray for you," such a statement was considered the equivalent of "fuck you," fundy style.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:41:59pm |
re: #82 eclectic infidel
Back in the day of alt.atheism, I used to debate 'fundies' to no discernible end. When one of them would say "I'll pray for you," such a statement was considered the equivalent of "fuck you," fundy style.
Double whammy:
1. Pious.
2. Pisses the opponent off.
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b_Snark Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:42:11pm |
re: #74 Gus 802
Yeah. They're all alike. I'm sure that if McCain won he would have signed off on the DADT repeal.
//
So, you're the new guy huh? So what do you think of the place?
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:43:17pm |
re: #84 b_sharp
So, you're the new guy huh? So what do you think of the place?
I like the shag carpet and the track lighting.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:43:31pm |
re: #81 Shiplord Kirel
A very well elucidated point. More people should actually read the texts.
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aagcobb Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:45:09pm |
re: #40 Sergey Romanov
Warren on heaven, hell and everything:
[Link: www.christianpost.com...]
Warren seems to realize his beliefs are incoherent and contradictory. Rather than reach the obvious conclusion that he's wrong, he relies on the old Christian crutch that us mere mortals simply aren't capable of understanding God's master plan.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:45:26pm |
re: #74 Gus 802
Yeah. They're all alike. I'm sure that if McCain won he would have signed off on the DADT repeal.
//
Purists PO me in that way. Have your disagreements with the administration fine but don't act like Obama would be no different from McCain.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:46:05pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Purists PO me in that way. Have your disagreements with the administration fine but don't act like Obama would be no different from McCain.
Or even more likely, Pres. Palin.
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b_Snark Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:46:10pm |
re: #82 eclectic infidel
Back in the day of alt.atheism, I used to debate 'fundies' to no discernible end. When one of them would say "I'll pray for you," such a statement was considered the equivalent of "fuck you," fundy style.
alt.atheism is still around isn't it? I haven't been there for years so I have no idea but I expected it to fold under the weight of pure hatred being injected.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:47:39pm |
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:48:28pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:49:00pm |
There should be an "I'll pray for you" parody of this song.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:49:09pm |
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aagcobb Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:50:08pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Purists PO me in that way. Have your disagreements with the administration fine but don't act like Obama would be no different from McCain.
Yes, just like there Nader said there was no difference between Gore and Bush.
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b_Snark Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:50:08pm |
re: #85 Gus 802
I like the shag carpet and the track lighting.
We got the shag from Bachmann's last closed constituency office. Don't worry, we had the tears steam cleaned out.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:51:30pm |
re: #95 aagcobb
Yes, just like there Nader said there was no difference between Gore and Bush.
Yeah well Nader's an idiot. As I said, diagree fine but be fucking honest.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:51:52pm |
re: #68 reine.de.tout
Just you.
'Cause you stink.
True, and my stink rubber off on my copy of firefox which still won't work after a reinstall. Oh, well. It's completely useless now.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:52:37pm |
re: #93 Sergey Romanov
There should be an "I'll pray for you" parody of this song.
[Video]
Atheists don't have no songs.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:52:49pm |
I'll pray for you, Fischer.
"Oh, Lord, bless and keep Bryan Fischer....
.....far from my church."
(with apologies to Fiddler on the Roof)
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Mattand Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:54:16pm |
re: #78 Sergey Romanov
Good move!
I sent the Saddleback guys who are Twitter stalking me now the following:
Hey, thanks for following me. So, who's up for hookers and blow? You guys can go to Rentboy if you want. No judgements.
I may ask them next if Rick is available to officiate a wedding for two friends of mine. Two of the nicest guys you're ever going to meet.
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:54:36pm |
re: #87 aagcobb
Warren seems to realize his beliefs are incoherent and contradictory. Rather than reach the obvious conclusion that he's wrong, he relies on the old Christian crutch that us mere mortals simply aren't capable of understanding God's master plan.
debating fundamentalists can be interesting. they patiently 'explain' everything to you, since the church has special, inspired knowledge of all of the details of god's reasoning, feelings, and intentions, which they are happy to explain to you in detail since They Know The Truth
your own truth isn't important so shut up and listen
...until you start in with the difficult questions. then they suddenly don't know the answer to everything anymore and it's "we poor mortals aren't capable of understanding god's plan"
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:54:56pm |
re: #95 aagcobb
Yes, just like there Nader said there was no difference between Gore and Bush.
I'm pretty sure it was the Nader voters that led to Bush winning in 2000. Of course people are free to vote for whomever they please. But it's not rational policy when on considers the alternatives or consequences if one purports to be liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Just like in 2000 if every one of these alleged purists goes out and votes for Nader or Ron Paul that may very well lead to a Republican victory in a close election.
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Mattand Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:55:06pm |
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Gus Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:55:36pm |
re: #105 mattand
What's the origin on spelling his name backwards?
Got me. Guess it's just kind of nutty.
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Mattand Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:56:28pm |
re: #104 Gus 802
I'm pretty sure it was the Nader voters that led to Bush winning in 2000. Of course people are free to vote for whomever they please. But it's not rational policy when on considers the alternatives or consequences if one purports to be liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Just like in 2000 if every one of these alleged purists goes out and votes for Nader or Ron Paul that may very well lead to a Republican victory in a close election.
I don't know about that. Gore couldn't win TN. IIRC, he had won his home state that would have been enough.
Christ, even Mondale managed to win MN.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:01:42pm |
re: #107 mattand
I don't know about that. Gore couldn't win TN. IIRC, he had won his home state that would have been enough.
Christ, even Mondale managed to win MN.
Everyone talks about that but in fairness to Gore, the state had trended right and he had trended left in 2000. That said, I don't blame Nader for Gore's defeat. I think Gore ran a terrible campaign.
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:03:36pm |
My friend Christopher Hitchens has died. I loved & prayed for him constantly & grieve his loss. He knows the Truth now
announcer: "and now, a special comment on atheists and the afterlife from Jerry Falwall, currently burning in hell for eternity. Reverend Falwell, do you think there is any place in Heaven for militant atheists like Christopher Hitchens?"
falwell: "AAARGHHHGHGHGGHGAAARRRHHHAAARRRHHAAARRRHHHAAA!!!"
announcer: "and by the way, Reverend Falwell, now that you are burning in hell for all eternity (ooo, cool red hot pokers doods by thuh way) - do you have any second thoughts on the things you said while you were alive?"
falwell: "AAARGHHHGHGHGGHGAAARRRHHHAAARRRHHAAARRRHHHAAAHELPHELPHELPHELPHELPAAARRRHHHAAARRRHHHAAARRRHHH!!!"
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General Nimrod Bodfish Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:05:04pm |
re: #106 Gus 802
Anyone remember former LGF user "Gordon"? Back when the blog was mostly right-leaning, Gordon was one of the few liberals that posted, with many of his posts rubbing the members the wrong way. He was often labeled as "nordog". I guess that's just some wacky LGF thing that hasn't changed that much over the years.
(If I remembered everything correct).
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Eclectic Infidel Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:06:45pm |
re: #90 b_sharp
alt.atheism is still around isn't it? I haven't been there for years so I have no idea but I expected it to fold under the weight of pure hatred being injected.
I think it is and I think Google owns rights or something to that effect. I literally haven't been involved in those contentious debates for a good two decades. Still, I remember the arguments affectionately. Interesting ideas were born from that group: Knights of BAAWA (Bad Assed Atheist With Attitude - the thick skin one has to develop when arguing with fundamentalists), and the Invisible Pink Unicorn (originally an argument unto itself - always used when arguing for the existence of the fundamentalist deity).
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:07:46pm |
re: #110 commadore183
Anyone remember former LGF user "Gordon" (or something along that line)? Back when the blog was mostly right-leaning, Gordon was one of the few liberals that posted, with many of his posts rubbing the members the wrong way. He was often labeled as "nordog". I guess that's just some wacky LGF thing that hasn't changed that much over the years.
(If I remembered everything correct).
"Nodrog". And he was a pompous ass.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:07:58pm |
re: #110 commadore183
Anyone remember former LGF user "Gordon"? Back when the blog was mostly right-leaning, Gordon was one of the few liberals that posted, with many of his posts rubbing the members the wrong way. He was often labeled as "nordog". I guess that's just some wacky LGF thing that hasn't changed that much over the years.
(If I remembered everything correct).
I don't mind it for Paul. Luap Nor is very Martian, so very fitting.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:08:25pm |
re: #109 engineer dog
Thanks. Made me feel better.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:09:16pm |
Well, I sure hope I go to hell.
It's bad enough we have to endure these dumb socon bigots, here on earth. Who in the world would want to spend all eternity sitting next to them.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:09:44pm |
re: #110 commadore183
But speaking of this, in the old LGF FAQ "Nodrog" was explained as getting everything so backwards that he deserved a backwards spelling. I guess this also explains Luap Nor.
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b_Snark Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:10:32pm |
re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well, I sure hope I go to hell.
It's bad enough we have to endure these dumb socon bigots, here on earth. Who in the world would want to spend all eternity sitting next to them.
Not me, I'll fully embrace the coming blackness. It's not like I have a choice.
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engineer cat Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:11:16pm |
re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well, I sure hope I go to hell.
It's bad enough we have to endure these dumb socon bigots, here on earth. Who in the world would want to spend all eternity sitting next to them.
"Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company"
- Mark Twain
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:14:03pm |
@almightygod
After a 30-minute discussion with Christopher Hitchens in my office, I'm now convinced that I don't exist.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:33:55pm |
re: #105 mattand
What's the origin on spelling his name backwards?
I've seen it used as a convention in places where a poster or subject is being discussed and there are supporters who net search for that term and then show up and comment/troll.
Given the known fanatical support Ron Paul has I would expect that the backwards spelling convention came partially from that.
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b_Snark Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:33:59pm |
re: #120 wrenchwench
@almightygod
After a 30-minute discussion with Christopher Hitchens in my office, I'm now convinced that I don't exist.
I had no idea you have a sense of humour.
(just kidding)
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JeffM70 Sat, Dec 17, 2011 3:13:17pm |
I guess Fischer can take comfort that one day he and Hitchens will be together basking in God's love.
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ramex Sat, Dec 17, 2011 3:24:50pm |
If... if... if... Fischer's Christianity is a disposable "what if..." comic.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Dec 17, 2011 3:35:43pm |
God sent Fischer to Earth because He Hates Us All.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Dec 17, 2011 3:43:46pm |
I will never understand people who claim to love Jesus, yet are so full of anger.
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labman57 Sat, Dec 17, 2011 4:04:50pm |
Religious conservatives seem to view God as a petty, vindictive, micro-managing, and emotionally insecure spiritual entity.
Methinks they are projecting ...
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Cautious Man Sat, Dec 17, 2011 4:34:46pm |
Father Jim Martin (unofficial Colbert Report chaplain), had a simple wish in his essay on Mr. Hitchens -
"So I hope that Christopher Hitchens, famous atheist, fearless polemicist and, in his own unique way, brave seeker, will now be pleasantly surprised by God."
[Link: www.americamagazine.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 17, 2011 9:54:10pm |
re: #1 theheat
In that case (he goes to hell), Hitchens would say, "Move over, there's a new sheriff in town."
I must borrow, in regards to Christopher Hitchens, what Nanny Ogg says of Granny Weatherwax: "If he ain't gone to a better place, he'll be working on improving it."
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 17, 2011 9:57:52pm |
re: #3 Sergey Romanov
Let's assume he didn't repent? He believes that he did?
BTW, the idea of an eternal punishment in hell is, of course, incompatible with a moral, all-loving and omni-benevolent god. It's a devil, not a god that would allow such a thing to exist.
As soon as Hitchens' illness became public knowledge, there were quite a few people who were REALLY hoping for a deathbed conversion.
Like Voltaire's.
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