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Survey: Majority of Catholics Favor Birth Control in Health Care Coverage

Catholic leaders a bit out of touch with the flock
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Right wing think tank the Heritage Foundation is blaring that “Obamacare” has awakened a sleeping giant:

It is a rare moment indeed when faith denominations of all stripes unite together in common cause, and it is rarer still when that cause is a political one, with a sole piece of legislation as its principal target. But when that law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America as protected under the First Amendment, it should not be surprising that Catholics and Jews, evangelical Christians, and mainline Lutherans alike find common cause in defense of their liberties.

Bill Donohue of the Catholic League is threatening fighting in the streets:

“Never before, unprecedented in American history, for the federal government to line up against the Roman Catholic Church,” said Catholic League head Bill Donohue.

Already Archbishop Timothy Dolan has spoken out against the law and priests around the country have mobilized, reading letters  from the pulpit. Donohue said Catholic officials will stop at nothing to put a stop to it.

“This is going to be fought out with lawsuits, with court decisions, and, dare I say it, maybe even in the streets,” Donohue said.

But it’s hard to picture a newly-awakened army of raging Catholics and evangelicals rioting in the streets when polls show that a Majority of Catholics Think Employers Should Be Required to Provide Health Care Plans That Cover Birth Control at No Cost.

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296 comments

1 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:00:33pm

There is the Doctrine, and there are the believers. In Catholic theology and thinking, the Doctrine has precedence, it certainly ain't no democracy...

2 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:02:24pm

It would seem there are classes of people within the Catholic church. Who knew?

3 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:02:26pm

Democracy itself is evil, don't you know. IIRC, that was part of the decisions at the Vatican I council.

4 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:03:49pm

Fortunately, Catholics can still vote with their feet, with their butts on pews, and most of all, with their donation money.

5 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:04:15pm

No true Catholics.

6 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:04:45pm

re: #5 Olsonist

Not true Catholics.

You mean sheep?

7 jamesfirecat  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:05:16pm

As some people have pointed out, there's a horribly large gap between Catholics taken as a group and the people in the upper branches of the Catholic Hierarchy.

8 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:06:31pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

As some people have pointed out, there's a horribly large gap between Catholics taken as a group and the people in the upper branches of the Catholic Hierarchy.

Yes, and those at the top see the gap mainly as a shortcoming of those at the bottom...

9 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:07:15pm

If only there were some cautionary examples from history we could call on to see what can happen when a rabble-rousing cleric stirs a small but zealous minority of True Believers into a violent frenzy.

10 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:09:27pm

I'm still trying to figure out how this law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America.

11 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:10:40pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I'm still trying to figure out how this law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America.

Because birth control is evil and leads to women being whores, that's why.

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12 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:11:47pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I'm still trying to figure out how this law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America.

It voids the well established right of discrimination by religions.

13 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:12:05pm

That's why I have a problem with religious hierarchies, but not necessarily with the religious people themselves.

14 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:12:45pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I'm still trying to figure out how this law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America.

One of the4 Great Founding Myths of America: that the Puritans came here to escape persecution and practice religious freedom.

They were being "persecuted" because they insisted on imposing their religious beliefs on everyone around them, and the people got fed up with it. They came here because there were no other people to object to them practicing a repressive theocracy.

But that is how a lot of people interpret "freedom of religion" here

15 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:13:09pm

IIRC Donohue has a history of antisemitism. Why is he still afloat?

16 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:16:39pm

The problem, for Republicans, is that Catholics aren't nearly as foaming-at-the-mouth insane about their faith as evangelicals tend to be...now it's true that the Catholic church is against abortion as well as birth control and masturbation, but I dare you to find a Catholic teen who hasn't discovered that jacking off with a condom on is a great way to keep from leaving tell-tale signs of their sin in the laundry for mom to find.

In other words, Catholics are people too...and they're not going to let one party use their religion as a club to beat them into submission.

17 Shvaughn  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:17:05pm

The thought of Bill Donohue fighting in the streets would be amusing if not for the fact that it's pretty fucking frightening when their rhetoric swings violent like that.

18 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:17:22pm

re: #15 Sergey Romanov

IIRC Donohue has a history of antisemitism. Why is he still afloat?

He has the courage and conviction to say what too many believe.

That and identfying with crazy is the in thing to do.

19 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:17:46pm
[...]

RUSH: Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream. Yes. Exactly right, it's borne out every day, it's just whether or not you got the courage to admit it. Most people find it a very uncomfortable truth of life, which is what makes it a truthful truth.

CALLER: As are most of the truths today uncomfortable. But here's how it ties into the discussion of what is happened in the Catholic Church, and I very highly respectfully disagree with your analysis that it will cost them votes. It will not cost them votes. You used the phrase a few minutes ago "idiot Catholics." And Rush, nothing could be closer to the truth. And I'm coming from a standpoint of a lifelong baptized Catholic as a child, lived with it, loved it, I learned it, and devoured it right up until recently when I became an Amish man. So I understand what's going on in the Catholic Church, and I was taught --

RUSH: Yeah, but, you know, it's not just Catholics that are gonna be impacted by this. Muslims are gonna be impacted by this. Mormons are gonna be impacted. Catholics are not the only ones who have such proscriptions on contraception and abortion.

CALLER: Well, I speak for the Catholics only, Rush, because I've never been a Muslim, nor a Jew.

RUSH: Look, I know what you're saying. Kind of like Hollywood liberals and liberal Jews, they'll sell Israel out in order to maintain primacy of liberalism. So you think there are a lot of dumb Catholics who will vote against their own interests simply because they're liberals first, right?

CALLER: Certainly. But it goes deeper than that. It goes to what you said recently about -- you recently revealed the truth about teachers in the classrooms and that the truth is there are not any teachers anymore, with some notable exceptions. There are indoctrinators, and there are people in front of the classroom whose job it is to dumb down the students and indoctrinate them. And the Catholics who were affected by this ruling are in that group, and they have infiltrated the Catholic Church. And again I speak from my own personal experience at activities during the 2008 election campaign at St. Bernard's Church in Vernon, Connecticut. And in that reception, as I talked about the evils of Obama to that assembled group, I heard the infiltrators, let's call them people who are covered by Undeniable Truth of Life Number 24, the feminists, the militant feminists who had haircuts that looked a certain way, who stated that they were four square behind Obama regardless of the fact --

RUSH: Right. It's the same as, there are there people, and I don't know if you are one of them, but there are people who believe that the priesthood has been infiltrated, compromised. Not taken over, but infiltrated by people who actually intend to do it harm. There are people that believe the Catholic Church as a target has been taken over or certainly infiltrated by people who are not Catholic, who are false Catholics with the express purpose of weakening the church or ripping it apart. I know there are a lot of people that believe this. The practicing Catholics vote majority Republican. Among Catholics who attend mass every week, which is required, McCain won 55-43, for example.

[...]

There's more. Much more.

20 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:18:01pm

re: #15 Sergey Romanov

IIRC Donohue has a history of antisemitism. Why is he still afloat?

"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, OK? And I'm not afraid to say it. That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus Christ, and it's about truth. It's about the Messiah." -- William Anthony Donohue on The Passion of the Christ

21 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:20:32pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Yikes.

22 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:21:30pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I'm still trying to figure out how this law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America.

Functional propaganda.

23 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:21:53pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

I'll bet money that caller is a Santorum supporter. It's pretty much just how he sounds IMO.

24 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:23:36pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Rush sounds like Mel Gibson.

25 M. Dubious  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:24:33pm

re: #24 Sergey Romanov

Rush sounds like Mel Gibson.

Not fair. Mel Gibson is only anti-semitic when drunk.

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:24:57pm

re: #25 harald

Not fair. Mel Gibson is only anti-semitic when drunk.

Which means always. You lose.//

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:25:20pm

re: #14 ralphieboy

One of the4 Great Founding Myths of America: that the Puritans came here to escape persecution and practice religious freedom.

They were being "persecuted" because they insisted on imposing their religious beliefs on everyone around them, and the people got fed up with it. They came here because there were no other people to object to them practicing a repressive theocracy.

But that is how a lot of people interpret "freedom of religion" here

It's not that simple. The Puritans in England were not simply being allowed to do their thing, with people only getting 'fed up' when they tried to impose their own beliefs on others. Puritan leaders were executed for advocating separation from the Church of England. Their churches were forced to conform to government regulation.

They weren't saints, and they weren't into religious tolerance, but neither was anyone else in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.

28 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:26:02pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

There's more. Much more.

Oh fuck Rush very much. He doesn't know shit about what it means to be a good Catholic or Jew.

29 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:26:29pm

re: #20 Gus 802

"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, OK? And I'm not afraid to say it. That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus Christ, and it's about truth. It's about the Messiah." -- William Anthony Donohue on The Passion of the Christ

What does he think about this movie?

30 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:26:42pm

re: #24 Sergey Romanov

Rush sounds like Mel Gibson.

Yep and it's not the first time either.

31 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:26:44pm

Sometimes I can hardly believe how reactionary the right wing has become. Just a few years ago it would have been unthinkable for these freaking cavemen to suddenly pop up and try to ban contraception. Now it's just an accepted part of the political scene. Unreal.

The religious right's persecution complex is getting more and more intense. There's a hard core following that actually thinks of themselves as separate from the rest of America, fighting against conspiracies to destroy them.

32 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:26:52pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

There's more. Much more.

Aren't clowns restricted to circuses?

33 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:28:25pm

Hey...the Abortionplex is on Yelp...and it's getting rave reviews!

Be sure to check out the pictures...there are some funny ones.

34 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:28:33pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Yep and it's not the first time either.

Here he hits two points - conspiracy theories about the infiltrated Catholic hierarchy, and "liberal Jews".

35 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:28:58pm

re: #29 Alouette

What does he think about this movie?

Just came across that video. Donohue is a crackpot.

36 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:29:18pm

re: #31 Charles

The religious right's persecution complex is getting more and more intense. There's a hard core following that actually thinks of themselves as separate from the rest of America, fighting against conspiracies to destroy them.

Just wait. Should Barack Obama win a second term, the wingnuts will be even more incoherent and rage-filled than they are now.

37 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:29:35pm

re: #34 Sergey Romanov

Here he hits two points - conspiracy theories about the infiltrated Catholic hierarchy, and "liberal Jews".

Yep. Too true.

38 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:30:25pm

re: #31 Charles

Sometimes I can hardly believe how reactionary the right wing has become. Just a few years ago it would have been unthinkable for these freaking cavemen to suddenly pop up and try to ban contraception. Now it's just an accepted part of the political scene. Unreal.

The religious right's persecution complex is getting more and more intense. There's a hard core following that actually thinks of themselves as separate from the rest of America, fighting against conspiracies to destroy them.

This really is an example of how well propaganda spreads and nourishes a meme.

39 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:31:34pm

re: #31 Charles

Sometimes I can hardly believe how reactionary the right wing has become. Just a few years ago it would have been unthinkable for these freaking cavemen to suddenly pop up and try to ban contraception. Now it's just an accepted part of the political scene. Unreal.

The religious right's persecution complex is getting more and more intense. There's a hard core following that actually thinks of themselves as separate from the rest of America, fighting against conspiracies to destroy them.

And here we thought that maybe Republicans would liberalize their reactionary litmus test back in 2008. Instead, they went in the other direction.

40 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:31:56pm

Limbaugh would pander more to overt Antisemitism if he knew he could get away with it. I have no doubt of that.

41 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:33:13pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Oh fuck Rush very much. He doesn't know shit about what it means to be a good Catholic or Jew.

Rush has been too busy hewing to the Newt Gingrich model of marriage, with drugs and Caribbean whores thrown in.

42 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:34:42pm

NSFW - Catholic High School Girls in Trouble - NSFW

From "Kentucky Fried Movie" - did I say this was NSFW?

43 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:34:51pm

I miss Hitchens.

44 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:36:18pm

re: #41 talon_262

Rush has been too busy hewing to the Newt Gingrich model of marriage, with drugs and Caribbean whores thrown in.

Yep, really Rush lecturing anyone about their lifestyle choices is hilarious and accusing liberal Jews of caring about being liberal first is hilarious coming from the man who once said he hoped the president would fail. Really it's sad as hell that this guy has made millions of bucks off of being a whiny baby and getting other whiners to listen to his whine.

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:38:17pm

Bill Donohue is the most enjoyable form of talking head trash, red-faced blustery old pig, the sort of guy Roger Waters makes fun of

46 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:39:20pm

re: #35 Gus 802

Just came across that video. Donohue is a crackpot.

Yes. And he no more speaks for the Catholic Church than the American Legion speaks for the Department of Defense.

47 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:39:29pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Really it's sad as hell that this guy has made millions of bucks off of being a whiny baby and getting other whiners to listen to his whine.

Hey! Those 5000$ tips at restaurants won't just appear out of thin air. You gotta spread some hate to get'em.

/

48 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:40:44pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

They're high on their own blubber! Rush is heading to Alex Jones territory

INFILTRATORS, UNCATHOLICS! HERETICS! PRAISE FAT WHITE MAN GEEZUS

49 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:42:11pm

And BTW. Rush's never head a "real job". Not by Mitt Romney's def, anyway. Of course, Romney will still lick Rush's sweaty buttcrack.

50 M. Dubious  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:42:55pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Limbaugh would pander more to overt Antisemitism if he knew he could get away with it. I have no doubt of that.

I never liked the guy, and now that you tell me he sometimes panders to overt anti-semitism, I like him even less.

51 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:42:58pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Yep, really Rush lecturing anyone about their lifestyle choices is hilarious and accusing liberal Jews of caring about being liberal first is hilarious coming from the man who once said he hoped the president would fail. Really it's sad as hell that this guy has made millions of bucks off of being a whiny baby and getting other whiners to listen to his whine.

...

I didn't call them out as Jews! I called them out as liberal-Jews! Can't you see the difference?

52 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:43:01pm

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

And BTW. Rush's never head a "real job". Not by Mitt Romney's def, anyway. Of course, Romney will still lick Rush's sweaty buttcrack.

Oh come on being a propagandist is a real job.

53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:43:49pm

re: #51 Gus 802

...

(Just like Breivik, I might add.)

54 M. Dubious  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:46:35pm

re: #43 Gus 802

I miss Hitchens.

Me too. He was entertaining when he was drunk and he was always entertaining.

55 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:47:23pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Yes. And he no more speaks for the Catholic Church than the American Legion speaks for the Department of Defense.

Nope, he doesn't. But the official Vatican position isn't much different except for the 'fighting in the streets' part.

56 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:47:39pm

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

And BTW. Rush's never head a "real job". Not by Mitt Romney's def, anyway. Of course, Romney will still lick Rush's sweaty buttcrack.

Get that out of my brain!

57 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:48:19pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Yep, really Rush lecturing anyone about their lifestyle choices is hilarious and accusing liberal Jews of caring about being liberal first is hilarious coming from the man who once said he hoped the president would fail. Really it's sad as hell that this guy has made millions of bucks off of being a whiny baby and getting other whiners to listen to his whine.

It's quite the industry, whiners and whining.

58 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:48:33pm

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

And BTW. Rush's never head a "real job". Not by Mitt Romney's def, anyway. Of course, Romney will still lick Rush's sweaty buttcrack.

And like it!

*shudders*

59 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:49:16pm

re: #58 talon_262

And like it!

*shudders*

Well, of that I'm not sure. But he will do it with a smile, and like it was the most serious business in the world.

60 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:50:14pm

re: #56 Alouette

Get that out of my brain!

Mittens, Rush's little Lemmiwinks. Just you watch.

61 simoom  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:50:30pm

[Link: www.businessinsider.com...]

One variant of the letter on this topic that was read out-loud in Catholic Churches across the nation:

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

I write to you concerning an alarming and serious matter that negatively impacts the Church in the United States directly, and that strikes at the fundamental right to religious liberty for all citizens of any faith. The federal government, which claims to be “of, by, and for the people,” has just been dealt a heavy blow to almost a quarter of those people — the Catholic population — and to the millions more who are served by the Catholic faithful.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services announced last week that almost all employers, including Catholic employers, will be forced to offer their employees’ health coverage that includes sterilization, abortion-inducing drugs, and contraception. Almost all health insurers will be forced to include those “services” in the health policies they write. And almost all individuals will be forced to buy that coverage as a part of their policies.

In so ruling, the Obama Administration has cast aside the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, denying to Catholics our Nation’s first and most fundamental freedom, that of religious liberty. And as a result, unless the rule is overturned, we Catholics will be compelled to either violate our consciences, or to drop health coverage for our employees (and suffer the penalties for doing so). The Obama Administration’s sole concession was to give our institutions one year to comply.

We cannot—we will not—comply with this unjust law. People of faith cannot be made second class citizens. We are already joined by our brothers and sisters of all faiths and many others of good will in this important effort to regain our religious freedom. Our parents and grandparents did not come to these shores to help build America’s cities and towns, its infrastructure and institutions, its enterprise and culture,
only to have their posterity stripped of their God given rights. In generations past, the Church has always been able to count on the faithful to stand up and protect her sacred rights and duties. I hope and trust she can count on this generation of Catholics to do the same. Our children and grandchildren deserve nothing less.

And therefore, I would ask of you two things. First, as a community of faith we must commit ourselves to prayer and fasting that wisdom and justice may prevail, and religious liberty may be restored. Without God, we can do nothing; with God, nothing is impossible. Second, I would also recommend visiting [u.s. council of catholic bishops website],to learn more about this severe assault on religious liberty, and how to contact Congress in support of legislation that would reverse the Obama Administration’s decision.

Sincerely yours in Christ,
+Alexander K. Sample
Most Reverend Alexander K. Sample
Bishop of Marquette

For an example of a variation, the letter read by military chaplains included this:

“It is a blow to a freedom that you have fought to defend and for which you have seen your buddies fall in battle,”

62 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:51:11pm

re: #61 simoom

Such chaplains should be kicked out ASAP.

63 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:52:39pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

It's quite the industry, whiners and whining.

Yep I think they pay Limbaugh and those like him in whine.

64 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:52:59pm

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

And BTW. Rush's never head a "real job". Not by Mitt Romney's def, anyway. Of course, Romney will still lick Rush's sweaty buttcrack.

Image: GVGEb.jpg

65 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:53:35pm

re: #31 Charles

they've always wanted to ban contraception. Women are baby factories to these people, always have been. They are the samw people who fought against women working, against giving women the right to vote. The cause may have changed but these people haven't.

66 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:53:46pm

OT, but what did Argentina do with the Falklands? I heard they were going to announce something at 5PM EST.

67 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:53:47pm

Of course Romney will pander to Limbaugh. Probably won't like it but he will do it. Anything to be the nominee and president Mitt will do that if he thinks it will make him look more "conservative."

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:54:05pm

re: #64 negativ

Image: GVGEb.jpg

DAMN YOU!!!//

69 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:54:31pm

re: #53 Sergey Romanov

(Just like Breivik, I might add.)

It's a condescending bigotry. To put it lightly. As if though if one is a Jew they should think a certain way. I plays into old stereotypes as well during the civil right era of "liberal-Jews" promoted by some rather unsavory characters of the time. According to Rush a Jew must think a certain way. Any Jew that thinks on the liberal side is unworthy and part of "a problem" or thus a "liberal Jew." How can he even dare speak for liberal Jews when I know in fact many liberal Jews wouldn't even think of "selling out Israel." He's placing himself in the position of caring about Israel more than a Jew simply because of the fact that Jews is a liberal? It's absurd.

70 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:54:37pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Of course Romney will pander to Limbaugh. Probably won't like it but he will do it. Anything to be the nominee and president Mitt will do that if he thinks it will make him look more "conservative."

Will need his endorsement.

71 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:54:55pm

re: #60 Sergey Romanov

Mittens, Rush's little Lemmiwinks. Just you watch.

Wikileeks, Lemmiwinks evil twin.

72 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:56:53pm

re: #69 Gus 802

It's a condescending bigotry. To put it lightly. As if though if one is a Jew they should think a certain way. I plays into old stereotypes as well during the civil right era of "liberal-Jews" promoted by some rather unsavory characters of the time. According to Rush a Jew must think a certain way. Any Jew that thinks on the liberal side is unworthy and part of "a problem" or thus a "liberal Jew." How can he even dare speak for liberal Jews when I know in fact many liberal Jews wouldn't even think of "selling out Israel." He's placing himself in the position of caring about Israel more than a Jew simply because of the fact that Jews is a liberal? It's absurd.

He wants badly to paint this construct that liberals hate Israel, ergo liberal Jews hate Israel. Though nothing could be further from the truth. And yeah this does harken back to the civil rights era when Limbaugh's ideological ancestors were bitching about "liberal Jews" for being the strongest supporters of things like Civil Rights, etc.

73 M. Dubious  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:56:58pm

re: #65 Dreggas

they've always wanted to ban contraception. Women are baby factories to these people, always have been. They are the samw people who fought against women working, against giving women the right to vote. The cause may have changed but these people haven't.

Not really. These people have changed. They are dead.

74 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:57:18pm

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

gettin ready

75 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:57:26pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Of course Romney will pander to Limbaugh. Probably won't like it but he will do it. Anything to be the nominee and president Mitt will do that if he thinks it will make him look more "conservative."

Mitt has to kiss Don Limbaugh's ring, if he wants any shot at getting any Dittoheads on board.

76 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:57:38pm

re: #73 harald

they reproduced, their legacy lives on.

77 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:57:42pm

re: #55 Charles

Nope, he doesn't. But the official Vatican position isn't much different except for the 'fighting in the streets' part.

Don't think there is a Vatican position concerning the content of employee insurance coverage. They are against contraception, but haven't really ruled on the morality of paying a premium as required. The bishops don't like it, but don't have a lot of ex cathedra on it.

78 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:58:07pm

Bachmann: 'I was the perfect candidate'

The Minnesota congresswoman was asked by Bloomberg TV's Al Hunt which of the remaining candidates was the most conservative during an interview Friday, and said none of them measured up to her conservative credentials.

"I was. I was the perfect candidate," Bachmann said in response.

79 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:58:14pm

re: #74 Dreggas

OK, this is getting pervy. I will be better off reading some wacky Japanese manga now. bbl.

80 dragonfire1981  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:59:06pm

re: #31 Charles

Sometimes I can hardly believe how reactionary the right wing has become. Just a few years ago it would have been unthinkable for these freaking cavemen to suddenly pop up and try to ban contraception. Now it's just an accepted part of the political scene. Unreal.

The religious right's persecution complex is getting more and more intense. There's a hard core following that actually thinks of themselves as separate from the rest of America, fighting against conspiracies to destroy them.

A big part of it Charles is the overwhelming belief among many fundamentalist Christians that we are living in the End Times and that events are unfolding in line with the Book of Revelation. One of the big themes of Revelation was the persecution against God's people in the last days before the return of Christ.

As an example here is Revelation 20:4

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years

They believe that they WILL be vastly and widely persecuted for their beliefs. It's not an IF, it's a WHEN.

So whenever something like this happens, they start up with the usual "persecution" stuff to rile up the believers.

Of course there is a long running theological debate on whether Revelation refers to events that have passed or events that are yet to come.

81 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:00:07pm

re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bachmann: 'I was the perfect candidate'

Perfect= most batshit insane in Bachmann's world I guess.

82 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:00:22pm

re: #80 dragonfire1981

Revelations is a bizarre book.

83 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:00:29pm

re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bachmann: 'I was the perfect candidate'

Have a huge ego much, Michelle?

84 M. Dubious  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:01:42pm

re: #76 Dreggas

they reproduced, their legacy lives on.

I caught your drift. Just thought you got a little too excited there.

85 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:03:43pm

James O'Keefe's Group Pulls New Voter ID Stunt In Minnesota

Someone put a fricking bell on that kid.

86 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:05:06pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Someone put a fricking bell on that kid.

Amen.

87 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:06:40pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

James O'Keefe's Group Pulls New Voter ID Stunt In Minnesota

Someone put a fricking bell on that kid.

Speaking of which, has anybody heard any further news on his last stunt? Did they drop the investigation or what?

88 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:07:32pm

re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So perfect, that no one saw that trait except her. Blinded by the brilliance, we were.

Malignant narcissism.

89 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:10:52pm

Mitt chimes in on Prop 8

“Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said. "This decision does not end this fight, and I expect it to go to the Supreme Court. That prospect underscores the vital importance of this election and the movement to preserve our values. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and, as president, I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written and not according to their own politics and prejudices.”

According to the "will of the people", Mitt wouldn't be considered a real Christian by many of the people he's pandering to.

90 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:11:23pm

re: #85 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

James O'Keefe's Group Pulls New Voter ID Stunt In Minnesota

Someone put a fricking bell on that kid.

Lurking a nut job site the other night, I saw a commenter who seemed to pose as one of O'Keefe's New Hampshire dolts use their stunt to attack the GOP primary campaign. He suggested they had proven potential fraud in favor of Mitt (with the usual degree of proof, of course). He might have been simply delusional, like many on that blog.

91 M. Dubious  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:11:31pm

re: #88 lawhawk

So perfect, that no one saw that trait except her. Blinded by the brilliance, we were.

Malignant narcissism.

Surprisingly, many Obama supporters agree: She would be the perfect candidate.

92 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:12:42pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mitt chimes in on Prop 8

Dear Mitt --

Civil Rights aren't up for a vote. Get over it and quit pandering to people who hate you on principle for being a Mormon.

No love,
Me

93 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:12:48pm

re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bachmann: 'I was the perfect candidate'

She woulda got 100% of the vote in Stepford, Connecticut.

94 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:12:50pm
95 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:13:04pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

unelected judges

That's a feature, not a bug, Mitt.

96 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:13:33pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mitt chimes in on Prop 8

According to the "will of the people", Mitt wouldn't be considered a real Christian by many of the people he's pandering to.

He's pretty much won the nomination, I don't see why he's campaigning so hard still. You'd figure he'd already be changing his tone for the general.

Or perhaps the reason is because the economic news last week pretty much torpedoes that whole "It's the economy, stupid!" plan for the GOP?

97 Gus  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:13:50pm

Going to work on some inanimate objects. ;) BBL

98 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:14:10pm

If the Prop 8 issue goes to the Supreme Court, and the decisions of the two lower courts are upheld, what happens to the Anti-Gay Marriage statutes and Amendments across the nation?

99 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:14:43pm

re: #96 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

He's pretty much won the nomination, I don't see why he's campaigning so hard still. You'd figure he'd already be changing his tone for the general.

Or perhaps the reason is because the economic news last week pretty much torpedoes that whole "It's the economy, stupid!" plan for the GOP?

A Romney Victory = See Pyrrhic Victory

100 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:15:36pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mitt probably got that marching order from his church, just watch 8: The Mormon Proposition

101 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:15:54pm

re: #98 ProLifeLiberal

If the Prop 8 issue goes to the Supreme Court, and the decisions of the two lower courts are upheld, what happens to the Anti-Gay Marriage statutes and Amendments across the nation?

They would fall. That's why everyone is so excited, and/or worried.

102 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:16:13pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

That's a feature, not a bug, Mitt.

Seriously. There's a damn good reason why judges aren't elected.

103 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:16:47pm

re: #98 ProLifeLiberal

If the Prop 8 issue goes to the Supreme Court, and the decisions of the two lower courts are upheld, what happens to the Anti-Gay Marriage statutes and Amendments across the nation?

Good question.

104 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:16:57pm

re: #102 Lidane

Seriously. There's a damn good reason why judges aren't elected.

See also: Wisconsin.

105 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:16:58pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Really hoping that Kennedy does side with the 4 Liberals. And maybe pick up one of the other four.

106 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:18:31pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said.

Traditional marriage: under attack from the inside!

Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.

George Barna, president and founder of Barna Research Group, commented:

"While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been in place for quite some time. Even more disturbing, perhaps, is that when those individuals experience a divorce many of them feel their community of faith provides rejection rather than support and healing. But the research also raises questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families. The ultimate responsibility for a marriage belongs to the husband and wife, but the high incidence of divorce within the Christian community challenges the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriages."
[Link: www.religioustolerance.org...]

107 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:19:14pm

re: #102 Lidane

Seriously. There's a damn good reason why judges aren't elected.

Some are, and those who are tend to be the most overturned.

108 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:19:58pm

re: #100 Dreggas

Mitt probably got that marching order from his church, just watch 8: The Mormon Proposition

Misread that as "Mormon Position" and could think only of missionaries.

109 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:20:06pm

How does one love the Constitution while simultaneously shitting all over one of the branches of government established by the Founding Fathers for operating the way it was intended to run?

110 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:20:42pm

re: #105 ProLifeLiberal

Really hoping that Kennedy does side with the 4 Liberals. And maybe pick up one of the other four.

Note: that was not an expert opinion. Ask Lawhawk for a more definitive answer.

111 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:20:58pm

re: #107 Obdicut

Some are, and those who are tend to be the most overturned.

Well yeah. Because they go in looking to fulfill campaign promises instead of upholding the law.

112 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:20:59pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They just claim Marbury v. Madison was wrongly decided.

113 A Mom Anon  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:23:29pm

Oh for FFS. You know,I don't think social conservatives could even stand to live in the country they claim to want to create for all of us. What miserable monsterous brats. I suspect monetary donations at the Catholic League must be down or something.

For people who claim to have such a strong set of beliefs they sure the hell are scared of any little thing that might challenge or offend them. Surely they have to realize they don't have to watch TV or use contraception or listen to certain music or see certain movies. No one's forcing them to do a thing. They claim to love America,but they hate Americans,it makes no sense.

114 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:25:36pm
115 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:26:57pm

re: #114 Lidane

*sigh*

Ron Paul Calls For The Elimination Of Public Lands

Mitt was there first.

Its rucking fidiculous.

116 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:28:15pm

re: #114 Lidane

*sigh*

Ron Paul Calls For The Elimination Of Public Lands

What an appropriate picture for him in the article, snarling like an old codger about ready to scream at some kids to get off his lawn. Perhaps it's because he realizes that, by this time next year, he'll just be "Dr. Paul" again.

117 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:28:17pm

re: #115 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mitt was there first.

Its rucking fidiculous.

Somewhere out there, Teddy Roosevelt is rolling over in his grave.

118 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:29:39pm

re: #117 Lidane

Somewhere out there, Teddy Roosevelt is rolling over in his grave.

Damn RINO.

119 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:29:41pm

re: #112 Obdicut

They just claim Marbury v. Madison was wrongly decided.

Thats crazy. It all goes back to the Whiskey Rebellion, which should have ended with a march into DC and a hanging!
///

120 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:29:42pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

Well, then let's hope Lawhawk is writing an answer. I want to hear from him on this.

121 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:31:16pm

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats crazy. It all goes back to the Whiskey Rebellion, which should have ended with a march into DC and a hanging!
///

Been reading alternate history novels again?

122 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:31:54pm

re: #121 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Been reading alternate history novels again?

Not lately.

123 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:32:47pm

re: #114 Lidane

*sigh*

Ron Paul Calls For The Elimination Of Public Lands

That would bankrupt New Mexico. As it is, we get PILT, Payment In Lieu of Taxes, for land that would in theory generate state taxes if the state controlled it.

Senator Bingaman says on average New Mexico receives around 35 million dollars annually in lieu of taxes from PILT

124 Sinistershade  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:33:11pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

They would fall. That's why everyone is so excited, and/or worried.

Not necessarily. It would depend upon exactly what the court chose to uphold. For example, the 9th Circuit's decision was very narrowly crafted. They explicitly stated that their ruling applied only to California. It's quite possible that the Supreme Court could strike down Prop. 8 on the the narrow grounds that it removed a right that was already being exercised, without ever making a more general decision that banning gay marriage violates the equal protection clause. A number of legal scholars are recommending that the court do just that.

125 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:33:50pm

What could possibly go wrong?

Lawmakers say US should consider arming the Syrian opposition

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and several other lawmakers say the United States should consider arming the opposition forces in Syria as President Bashar al-Assad continues to kill civilians in a government crackdown.

Graham cautioned that before arming the opposition, he would want to know that they have a plan to govern “so that we don’t just have another civil war.”

“That is probably where we are headed, is giving the opposition forces' capacity, humanitarian aid, medical aid and maybe even military assistance,” Graham said Tuesday. “Before arming them I would want to know what efforts have they made to put together a governing coalition."
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, also told reporters Tuesday that “we should start considering all options, including arming the opposition. The blood-letting has got to stop."

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) made similar comments on Sunday, suggesting at a conference in Munich, Germany, that the United States should ultimately provide the opposition with weapons.

126 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:33:58pm

re: #122 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not lately.

Ah, reminded me of a novel I read by L. Neil Smith, The Probability Broach. Written back in '80, it's one long libertarian wet dream in novel form.

127 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:36:05pm

re: #125 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

Lawmakers say US should consider arming the Syrian opposition

Its not like there is any history of us arming revolutionaries, sending them supplies, then having them turn against us at a later date and targeting our civilians.

That could never happen.

128 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:37:23pm

re: #124 Sinistershade

Not necessarily. It would depend upon exactly what the court chose to uphold. For example, the 9th Circuit's decision was very narrowly crafted. They explicitly stated that their ruling applied only to California. It's quite possible that the Supreme Court could strike down Prop. 8 on the the narrow grounds that it removed a right that was already being exercised, without ever making a more general decision that banning gay marriage violates the equal protection clause. A number of legal scholars are recommending that the court do just that.

Thanks. (See my belated disclaimer.)

129 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:38:45pm

re: #125 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

Lawmakers say US should consider arming the Syrian opposition

Lindsey Graham and John McCain regularly fuck each other in front of posters of warfare while Joe Lieberman stands by with a sponge. They're the last people we should be taking advice from.

130 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:39:49pm

re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its not like there is any history of us arming revolutionaries, sending them supplies, then having them turn against us at a later date and targeting our civilians.

That could never happen.

I think it has something to do with our long history of supporting revolutionaries as surrogate soldiers, then cutting and running when it comes time to rebuild.

131 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:39:50pm

re: #129 darthstar

Lindsey Graham and John McCain regularly fuck each other in front of posters of warfare while Joe Lieberman stands by with a sponge. They're the last people we should be taking advice from.

Someone ask McCain how McCain-Feingold is doing nowadays.

132 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:40:10pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

That would bankrupt New Mexico. As it is, we get PILT, Payment In Lieu of Taxes, for land that would in theory generate state taxes if the state controlled it.

Pfft. As if Ron Paul cares.

States' Rights! Freedom! Private Industry! Eleventy!

133 Sinistershade  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:40:44pm

re: #128 wrenchwench

Thanks. (See my belated disclaimer.)

Personally, I want to see them declare Prop. 8, anti-gay bigotry, and Rush Limbaugh in violation of the 14th Amendment, good taste, and common sense. But they seldom listen to me. Those gavels and black robes seem to make them think they're big shots.

134 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:40:52pm

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Someone ask McCain how McCain-Feingold is doing nowadays.

He doesn't care. When Citizens United came down and someone explained to him that it would make Obama's reelection harder, he just smiled and rolled over.

135 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:42:36pm

re: #132 Lidane

Pfft. As if Ron Paul cares.

We should give it to private industry, as they'll be even better stewards of the land than the feds! People will pay to keep these parks clean and pristine! There's more profit to be made in keeping clean parks than there is mining them for precious metals!

137 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:46:02pm

Bashar Assad emails leaked, tips for ABC interview revealed

Hundreds of emails from Syrian President Bashar Assad's office were leaked on Monday after an attack by the hacker group Anonymous. One of the email files, which Haaretz has obtained, was a document preparing Assad for his December 2011 interview with ABC's Barbara Walters.

The attack took place overnight Sunday and the target was the mail server of the Syrian Ministry of Presidential Affairs. Some 78 inboxes of Assad's aides and advisers were hacked and the password that some used was "12345". Among those whose email was exposed were the Minister of Presidential Affairs Mansour Fadlallah Azzam and Assad's media adviser, Bouthaina Shaaban.

Heh. 12345...really?

138 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:46:44pm

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Bashar Assad emails leaked, tips for ABC interview revealed

Heh. 12345...really?

Thats like something an idiot has on his luggage.

139 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:47:00pm
140 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:47:01pm

Michelle Bachmann's district is fucking death


Social conservatism is death, it's a virus that plagues the stupid

141 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:47:24pm

re: #140 WindUpBird

Your link is also death.

142 Kragar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:48:12pm

re: #139 Varek Raith

[Video]

We are good, aren't we?

143 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:48:30pm

re: #138 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats like something an idiot has on his luggage.

re: #139 Varek Raith

[Video]

Gee, think we're all a bunch of geeks around here?

144 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:48:44pm

re: #125 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

Lawmakers say US should consider arming the Syrian opposition

I was just reading up on that. We we wondering this morning what the Russians are up to. I think this explains it...
Syria raises specter of proxy conflict for U.S., Russia

145 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:48:59pm

re: #141 Obdicut

Your link is also death.

Just fixed it!

you try this typing shit with a wrist brace on your dominant hand, dammit ;-)

146 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:49:02pm

re: #138 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats like something an idiot has on his luggage.

Don't talk about my luggage like that.

147 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:51:09pm

re: #143 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Gee, think we're all a bunch of geeks around here?

;)

148 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:52:05pm

re: #146 darthstar

Don't talk about my luggage like that.

Sapient pearwood, huh?

149 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:52:47pm

re: #138 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats like something an idiot has on his luggage.

Nobody ever said murderous tyrants were very smart.

150 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:52:54pm

re: #147 Lidane

YO

151 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:54:17pm

re: #125 Lidane

gotta love republicans playing army

152 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:55:46pm

If you enter a "display name" in your User Settings, it will now show up for any comments you post. This is the first public test...

153 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:56:31pm

re: #147 Lidane

Gee, think we're all a bunch of geeks around here?

[Video];)

Comb the desert!

154 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:56:58pm

OK, almost there...

155 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:58:04pm

testing new feature...

156 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:59:20pm

re: #153 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Comb the desert!

"Sir!"
"What?"
"Are we being too literal?"

157 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:59:31pm

re: #151 WindUpBird

gotta love republicans playing army

...or of course we could let the Syrian government slaughter people at will. We are probably already sending arms in through other countries.

158 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:59:51pm

There we go. She's a-workin'.

159 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:00:10pm

Neat. I can haz cheesburger! With catnip! NOW!

160 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:00:18pm

Spaceballs.
Valve time!

161 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:02:41pm

It looked like it worked-- I saw Oaktree as feline overlord. But now it's back to Oaktree.

162 Lidane  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:03:48pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Valve time!

Sorry. Time for a different Valve:

163 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:04:01pm

re: #161 DefinitelyNotObdicut

You're not fooling anybody.

164 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:04:40pm

You can, of course, see the person's real username by clicking their icon.

165 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:06:42pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Amish? With a phone? Must be them there "Cowboy Amish".

166 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:07:59pm

Privatizing the parks makes a lot of sense. Corporations are always better at managing the public good than the government, or the governmenot as I call them.

167 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:08:20pm

re: #165 nines09

Amish? With a phone? Must be them there "Cowboy Amish".

I didn't even notice that. Good point. Apparently a radio, too.

168 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:09:28pm

re: #166 Tucidbo

Privatizing the parks makes a lot of sense. Corporations are always better at managing the public good than the government, or the governmenot as I call them.

Bizzaro Obdicut?!

/

169 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:09:30pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

You can, of course, see the person's real username by clicking their icon.

As soon as you did that, you lost your highlighted name header on my machine (FF/Linux). Your previous comments are still in blue highlight.

170 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:10:35pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Yeah, I lost color for my posts as well. Chrome/Win7.

171 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:10:54pm

re: #170 Tucidbo

Yeah, I lost color for my posts as well. Chrome/Win7.

Ditto.

172 erik_t  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:11:36pm

Threeve'd, on OSX/Chrome.

/edit: nope, just kidding, Mr. Johnson has lost color but I remain green.

173 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:11:50pm

re: #170 Tucidbo

Yeah, I lost color for my posts as well. Chrome/Win7.

My own comment headers still come up in green highlight.

174 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:12:22pm

re: #173 Decatur Deb

My own comment headers still come up in green highlight.

'Cause you didn't use a Display Name.

175 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:13:14pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

'Cause you didn't use a Display Name.

Uhhh. Wuffo' display name?

176 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:14:24pm

Hey...I'm Damn Skippy!
Switching back to darth because damn skippy is too honest.

177 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:14:35pm

re: #145 WindUpBird

Just fixed it!

you try this typing shit with a wrist brace on your dominant hand, dammit ;-)

I'm afraid to ask what kind of accident.

178 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:14:46pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Uhhh. Wuffo' display name?

Yours could say, for instance, 'Decatur Deb, but I'm a Guy'. See #152.

179 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:15:21pm

Now I'm back. It seems to have changed my name on all my posts-- so you can't shuffle through display names as you comment, I guess.

180 darthstar  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:15:23pm

re: #176 darthstar

Hey...I'm Damn Skippy!
Switching back to darth because damn skippy is too honest.

Heh...now click my icon...I'm double-darthed.

181 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:15:27pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Bizzaro Obdicut?!

/

Maybe it's Kcub.

182 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:15:37pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

Yours could say, for instance, 'Decatur Deb, but I'm a Guy'. See #152.

Trying to think of advantages on a boob-pun thread.

183 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:16:49pm

Will be useful on Caturday when the FO threads are running.

184 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:18:14pm

re: #183 oaktree

Will be useful on Caturday when the FO threads are running.

What's a FO thread?

185 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:19:23pm

re: #184 b_sharp

What's a FO thread?

Feline Overlord thread - which is all of them of course since cats are always on topic.

186 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:21:16pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Trying to think of advantages on a boob-pun thread.

Could be confusing if used by posters who have that small green football for an icon.

187 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:21:21pm

OK, colors should be back now...

188 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:23:43pm

Testing, 1, 2, 3...

189 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:25:16pm

re: #188 TheEagleAndTheHawk

Testing, 1, 2, 3...

The Spy showed your 'real' nic. Interesting.

190 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:25:20pm

re: #188 TheEagleAndTheHawk

We must commence bombing Iran immediately.

191 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:25:20pm

And I can actually toggle this setting on and off - so if anyone impersonates someone else or otherwise abuses it, I can just turn it off and their username will show up again.

192 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:25:53pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

The Spy showed your 'real' nic. Interesting.

Not active in the Spy yet.

193 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:26:10pm

Yeah, colors are back.

194 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:27:19pm

re: #190 Tucidbo

We must commence bombing Iran immediately.

Totally missed the reference, didn't you...

195 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:28:12pm

What manner of sorcery is this???

196 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:28:31pm

re: #194 TheEagleAndTheHawk

A shitty John Denver song? But then I repeat myself.

197 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:29:49pm

re: #190 Tucidbo

We must commence bombing Iran immediately.

You two faced son-of-a-gun.

198 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:30:15pm

re: #197 NullHypothesis

You two faced son-of-a-gun.

Where's his coin?

199 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:31:28pm

re: #198 TheEagleAndTheHawk

Where's his coin?

He's a special kind of specie.

200 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:32:35pm

re: #197 NullHypothesis

You two faced son-of-a-gun.

If he has two faces, why would he wear that one?

//

201 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:33:12pm

This ought to confuse the hell out of people.
XD

202 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:33:44pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

If he has two faces, why would he wear that one?

//

No reverse gear.

203 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:34:54pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

Ah, reminded me of a novel I read by L. Neil Smith, The Probability Broach. Written back in '80, it's one long libertarian wet dream in novel form.

Isn't that the basic review of everything he's ever written? Goldbug too.

204 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:35:23pm

re: #196 Tucidbo

A shitty John Denver song? But then I repeat myself.

Hey, just because you don't care for John Denver, doesn't mean all of his songs suck; I just happen to be partial to that song for personal reasons, that and "Rocky Mountain High". "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" can DIAF though...

However, opinions are like assholes...everyone has one. ;-P

205 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:35:35pm

I'm Spartacus!

And who gets to use "Burninator, Flayer of Trolls" while the grill is being warmed up?

206 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:36:17pm

re: #204 TheEagleAndTheHawk

One of the best sub-subplots in Doonesbury was the hatred between Duke and John Denver.

207 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:36:24pm

Can we all be Spartacus?

208 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:37:08pm

re: #207 NullHypothesis

Can we all be Spartacus?

Kosh.

209 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:37:28pm

re: #205 Spartacus

No, I am Spartacus!

210 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:37:50pm

re: #206 Tucidbo

One of the best sub-subplots in Doonesbury was the hatred between Duke and John Denver.

Heh.

Don't know if you saw my edit, but all of the masters and sheet music for "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" should have been in Denver's plane that last time.

///too much?

211 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:38:06pm

re: #209 No, I am Spartacus!

No, I am Spartacus!

Are not!

212 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:38:09pm

Change all our names to Spartacus and then guess IDs from the comment only.

213 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:38:54pm

re: #212 NullHypothesis

Change all our names to Spartacus and then guess IDs from the comment only.

Would need to change avatars too since they display.

214 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:40:02pm

How about we all become Spartacus and scare D_F when he comes in.

215 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:40:36pm

re: #212 NullHypothesis

Change all our names to Spartacus and then guess IDs from the comment only.

re: #213 Spartacus

Would need to change avatars too since they display.

We could be Anonymous.

216 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:41:15pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

re: #213 Spartacus

We could be Anonymous.

Too obvious.

217 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:41:23pm

re: #214 NullHypothesis

You can't have the same display name.

We'd all have to be variations.

218 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:41:42pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

re: #213 Spartacus

We could be Anonymous.

Or Occupy to fuck with KT...

219 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:42:10pm

re: #218 TheEagleAndTheHawk

Or Occupy to fuck with KT...

I like it.

220 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:42:23pm

re: #216 NullHypothesis

Too obvious.

Not if we wore the Guy Fawkes avatar.

221 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:42:33pm

re: #218 TheEagleAndTheHawk

Or Occupy to fuck with KT...

Occupy LFG!

//

222 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:43:36pm

Time to free your inner child.

223 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:43:45pm

Like this?

224 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:44:40pm

re: #138 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats like something an idiot has on his luggage.

Shit I better change my luggage lock. Thanks a lot./

225 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:44:42pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Not if we wore the Guy Fawkes avatar.

Why are you not playing along?!?!?
/

226 Peter Kaufman  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:44:56pm

The Catholic League, headed by Bill Donohue, is pretty much comprised solely of.. wait for it.... Bill Donohue.

An army of one angry man.

227 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:45:24pm

re: #225 Montaser ibn al-Nujum

Why are you not playing along?!?!?
/

Grasp on reality is fragile enough.

228 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:46:20pm

re: #223 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

Like this?

Or this...

229 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:47:08pm

Or use this?
تحتل كرة قدم صغيرة خضراء اللون

230 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:47:51pm

re: #222 NullHypothesis

Time to free your inner child.

What's going on with these name changes?

231 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:48:36pm

re: #230 Naso Tang

What's going on with these name changes?

"Display Name" in your account will show up for comments now.

232 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:48:50pm

re: #230 Naso Tang

What's going on with these name changes?

We used to be Spartacus.

Soon we'll all be Charles.

233 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:49:12pm

re: #230 Naso Tang

What's going on with these name changes?

Carnevale.

Image: 350px-Venezia-maschera_carnevale.jpg

234 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:50:10pm

re: #232 Occupy: LGF (barfie)

We used to be Spartacus.

Soon we'll all be Charles.

Well, aren't we already a bunch of sock puppets now? Commenting to make this place look topical? So the AI has become self-aware and will take over. JUDGEMENT DAY is at hand!

235 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:51:06pm

re: #227 Decatur Deb

Grasp on reality is fragile enough.

Oy, amen to that.

236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:51:08pm

What on Earth?

237 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:51:49pm

re: #232 Occupy: LGF (barfie)

We used to be Spartacus.

Soon we'll all be Charles.

Somehow, I don't think Charles would appreciate an army of clones, flattering as that might be.

Or he just might...

///

238 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:51:54pm

re: #234 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

Okay, what's going on here?

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:52:06pm

Knee-deep in Knewbies?

240 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:52:43pm

:P

Sounds like some Subaru-driving hippie! Join the protest man!

241 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:53:31pm

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah, Charles changed it to where the Display Name in your profile can be used for comments too, not just Pages.

242 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:54:02pm

I used this to register a sock once.

Nobody noticed.

Some of you have no idea what I'm talking about.

243 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:54:17pm

re: #240 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

:P

Sounds like some Subaru-driving hippie! Join the protest man!

Stop talking about things!

Image: PepperSprayTurkey.jpg

244 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:54:23pm

re: #231 Occupy: LGF (Stabby)

"Display Name" in your account will show up for comments now.

I suppose it will really mess up the stalker bloggers for a bit.

245 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:55:21pm

re: #244 Walter L. Newton

I suppose it will really mess up the stalker bloggers for a bit.

wow.

246 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:55:52pm

re: #244 Walter L. Newton

I suppose it will really mess up the stalker bloggers for a bit.

While I got a chuckle out the Walter reference, Charles might not like us doing ex-Lizards like that.

Though, as soon as your Display Name changes, the name on every post you made with any other Display Name updates as well (except that if someone quotes/replies to you, in which whatever Display Name you used still shows in those).

247 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:56:31pm

re: #243 Pepper-Spray Happy Cop

Stop talking about things!

[Link: scm-l3.technorati.com...]

Help! I'm being oppressed!

Image: Kalashnikitty.jpg

248 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:56:56pm

re: #246 Occupy: LGF (Smashy)

While I got a chuckle out the Walter reference, Charles might not like us doing ex-Lizards like that.

Don't worry.

249 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:57:32pm

re: #177 b_sharp

I'm afraid to ask what kind of accident.

no accident, just preventive medicine, if I'm drawing for 10 hours a day, it's good to protect your wrist, use larger muscle groups (arm) to draw with

basically, this is so I don't get RSI

250 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:57:56pm

re: #246 Occupy: LGF (Smashy)

While I got a chuckle out the Walter reference, Charles might not like us doing ex-Lizards like that.

Piss up a rope.

251 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:58:14pm

re: #249 WindUpBird

no accident, just preventive medicine, if I'm drawing for 10 hours a day, it's good to protect your wrist, use larger muscle groups (arm) to draw with

basically, this is so I don't get RSI

Sure...

252 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:58:53pm

Hmmm.

253 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:59:01pm

*mic check*

254 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 4:59:01pm

re: #250 Decatur Deb

Piss up a rope.

Wow, you can do an ex-lizard without changing anything!

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:00:14pm

My friends have all left me. I haz a sad.

256 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:00:26pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Limbaugh would pander more to overt Antisemitism if he knew he could get away with it. I have no doubt of that.

Limbaugh already panders to white supremacists, so sure

257 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:00:37pm

Real nic shows up in the Spy.

258 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:00:46pm

Speaking of lizards, what happened to Albusteve?

259 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:01:11pm

re: #258 Perfect Banana

Misbehaved once too often.

260 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:01:24pm

re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My friends have all left me. I haz a sad.

Maybe you can make some new friends.

261 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:01:33pm

re: #258 Perfect Banana

Speaking of lizards, what happened to Albusteve?

He pushed his luck with Charles one too many times.

262 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:01:35pm

re: #257 Beware the Giraffe

Real nic shows up in the Spy.

See #192.

263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:01:49pm

re: #260 A Pie In a Cake In a PIe

Maybe you can make some new friends.

I am so into you right now.

264 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:02:21pm

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so into you right now.

Down boy.

265 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:02:29pm

re: #262 wenchwrench

See #192.

Hmm, you know, maybe I'll leave it like that. It is a Spy, after all.

266 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:02:41pm

re: #259 Beware the Giraffe

Misbehaved once too often.

Too bad.

267 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:02:44pm

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am so into you right now.

OK, that cracked me up.

268 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:03:15pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Hmm, you know, maybe I'll leave it like that. It is a Spy, after all.

I can see some value in that.

269 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:04:32pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

Hmm, you know, maybe I'll leave it like that. It is a Spy, after all.

re: #268 wenchwrench

I can see some value in that.

Can it be made to shoe the "real" and display names in the Spy?

270 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:05:51pm

re: #269 Occupy: LGF (Smashy)

re: #268 wenchwrench

Can it be made to shoe the "real" and display names in the Spy?

You mean like it does if you click the avatar?

271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:07:10pm

You have to actually squint tonight to look at the moon. It is spectacular.

272 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:07:28pm

It's a little creepy, like the stalkers using our nics. Just my opinion....

273 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:09:14pm

this is freaking me out right now...

274 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:09:39pm

It's like a thread from the past with a lot of unrecogizable names.

275 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:10:17pm

re: #272 Beware the Giraffe

It's a little creepy, like the stalkers using our nics. Just my opinion...

re: #273 OccupyLondon

this is freaking me out right now...

Adapt. Evolve. Loosen up your knickers.

276 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:10:58pm

Cut this out! My sense of balance in the universe is toppling.

277 b_Snark  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:11:03pm

re: #274 Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysil

It's like a thread from the past with a lot of unrecogizable names.

Mom!
I've missed you.

278 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:11:58pm

Wasn't me!

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:12:01pm

I don't see how y'all are doing this. I would permanently change my name to "Cake or Death!" if I could.

280 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:12:03pm

re: #274 Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysil

It's like a thread from the past with a lot of unrecogizable names.

I see that Occupy: Wales has joined in.

281 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:13:07pm

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just go to your account settings and change your display name.

282 Jimmi the Grey  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:14:12pm

This just for oldtimers, or can new kidz play?

283 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:15:04pm

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't see how y'all are doing this. I would permanently change my name to "Cake or Death!" if I could.

What?

284 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:15:10pm

re: #209 A Pie In a Cake In a PIe

No, I am Spartacus!

Us am Spartaci.

285 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:15:30pm

re: #282 Occupy: LGF (poopie)

This just for oldtimers, or can new kidz play?

Plenty of room! Just watch for the broken glass and the chamber pot over in the corner.

286 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:16:01pm

re: #282 Occupy: LGF (poopie)

This just for oldtimers, or can new kidz play?

Only for those with the seven year itch.

287 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:16:05pm

re: #284 BongCrodny

Us am Spartaci.

Thread winna!

288 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:16:47pm

Reminds me of George Costanza's mother.

I go out for a quart of milk, I come home and find my son treating his body the blog like an amusement park.

289 Varek Raith  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:17:26pm

Most amusing.

290 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:18:04pm

---->

291 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:18:58pm

re: #290 Ender Wiggin's secret alien sympathies
Cute new nic!

292 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:19:24pm

re: #289 Varek Raith

Most amusing.

Who's pretending to be Varek?

293 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:20:07pm

Cool.

294 CuriousLurker  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:18:14pm

I don't get it. No one is forcing anyone to TAKE the pill. Some of my tax dollars are probably going to pig farmers or other things that would go against my religion, but as long as no one is forcing me to eat pork, then my First Amendment rights aren't being trampled on. These people need to get a grip.

295 jaunte  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:19:37pm

re: #294 CuriousLurker

No one is forcing anyone to TAKE the pill.

Exactly. The protest is over losing the authority to say 'no' to people who want it.

296 labman57  Wed, Feb 8, 2012 3:38:25pm

The Catholic Church has the same attitude about the viewpoints of its followers as the GOP has toward poll data from its own constituents: "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."


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