‘Burn a Koran Day’ Pastor Supports George Zimmerman

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Moronic publicity-hungry Quran-burning pastor Terry Jones is coming out in support of George Zimmerman.

The Gainesville pastor who set off riots in the Middle East by burning the Quran is turning out to support George Zimmerman today at a University of Florida protest of Trayvon Martin’s shooting death, according to Rev. Terry Jones’ Dove World Outreach Center.

Jones and 20 members of his church plan to attend a march scheduled to begin about 5 p.m. at the UF campus and continue along University Avenue to Gainesville City Hall, said Fran Ingram, a church spokeswoman.

He will likely face oppostion because the march is in support of Trayvon and will include people who want Zimmerman arrested. “He will be there to advocate for George Zimmerman’s Constitutional rights,” Ingram said.

Here’s a video this creep posted to YouTube in March 2010, just for some context and a possible clue about his motivations. Warning: this is NOT SAFE FOR WORK. (Or any other time, for that matter.)

Youtube Video

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200 comments
1 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:26:40pm

Oh yeah, I remember that utter creep. No wonder...

2 erik_t  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:27:08pm

Good to know that he's an equal-opportunity hateful blowhard.

3 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:27:15pm

Zimmerman's "constitutional rights"? Whatever happened to the idea that one's rights end when they infringe on the rights of another?

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:27:50pm

re: #1 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

(I mean the bespectacled beardo. Everybody remembers Terry.)

5 Lidane  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:30:54pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Zimmerman's "constitutional rights"? Whatever happened to the idea that one's rights end when they infringe on the rights of another?

Pfft. We all know that to the RWNJs, minorities don't have rights.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:34:12pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Zimmerman's "constitutional rights"? Whatever happened to the idea that one's rights end when they infringe on the rights of another?

Zimmerman's constitutional rights have not been even slighly infringed upon in any way I'm aware of. He even seems to have been given a few extra rights, such as the right to walk away from a shooting with no apparent rationale.

7 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:34:15pm

There's a minuscule chance that some of these idiots are are actually mystified at the complexities of American history, and why some people can make a joke about oppression to try to ease its pain while other people who never had the experience should tread lightly, but I think they know the truth quite well and are just nasty blowhards.

8 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:34:26pm

I would be pushing the Unfriend button frantically.

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:38:15pm

re: #7 jaunte

There's a minuscule chance that some of these idiots are are actually mystified at the complexities of American history, and why some people can make a joke about oppression to try to ease its pain while other people who never had the experience should tread lightly, but I think they know the truth quite well and are just nasty blowhards.

I did have someone in my class on race and gender in psychotherapy comment in response to reading the chapter about African American families that she had been very interested in the sections on slavery and segregation, and 'now she understood why black people always seem to think that you owe them something'.

This is a woman born and raised in the US. I was utterly fascinated, on a number of levels.

10 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 2:47:12pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

I did have someone in my class on race and gender in psychotherapy comment in response to reading the chapter about African American families that she had been very interested in the sections on slavery and segregation, and 'now she understood why black people always seem to think that you owe them something'.

This is a woman born and raised in the US. I was utterly fascinated, on a number of levels.

If we really, truly had overcome race, we could start over. There's a really good article today by Tyler Perry on how he is still profiled.

Hold on: [Link: www.cnn.com...]

There it is. We are still profiling. Blacks have watched wave after wave of immigrants come over, start at the bottom, and move up, all while they remain jammed at the bottom.

11 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:02:43pm

More vids from the bearded douche:

Youtube Video

Youtube Video
12 dragonfire1981  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:06:55pm

Charles I believe the correct headline should be: Terry Jones gets desperate for media attention again, plans to disrupt Trayvon Martin rally.

13 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:11:12pm

This Ron Paul supporter has it all figured out...
'Zionist media in US diverting attention from Iran war'

The Zionist-dominated media in the United States is trying to exploit the racially-charged case of Trayvon Martin’s murder in order to divert attention from U.S. and Israel’s war preparations against Iran.

In his interview with Press TV’s U.S. Desk on Monday, political commentator in San Antonio from Texas, Mark Dankof, said: “Basically the Trayvon Martin case is getting the attention that it’s getting right now in the United States for 2 reasons.

“One the Zionist media in the United States must divert public attention away from what Israel and the United States are doing in preparing a war with Iran”, Dankof said.

“The second thing is that there was the brutal killing in her home of an Islamic, Iraqi woman in El-Cajon, California.” Dankof added that “the perpetrator or perpetrators of that act had been influenced by some of the Zionist and Neo-Conservative symposiums on Islam that had been held in the El-Cajon, California area recently.”

14 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:13:31pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

This Ron Paul supporter has it all figured out...
'Zionist media in US diverting attention from Iran war'

What an asshole.

15 dragonfire1981  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:14:35pm

A war with Iran is about the LAST thing America needs right now.

16 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:14:46pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

This Ron Paul supporter has it all figured out...
'Zionist media in US diverting attention from Iran war'

Someone should tell them that El Cajon is not hyphenated.

17 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:14:49pm

Now up to seven dead at Oikos University. Horrible. :(

18 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:16:31pm

Curveball admits...he made it all up

19 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:18:41pm

re: #18 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Hasn't he done this before?

20 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:19:43pm

re: #18 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Curveball admits...he made it all up

Didn't the Iraq Survey Group already debunk his assertions about WMD a while ago? I thought it was already well-known that he lied about that stuff.

21 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:20:02pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Wow, that Mark Dankof guy is really wacky.

22 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:20:20pm

Last year on 60 Minutes:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:20:59pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Yeah. The news item seems to be not about the confession, which is ancient news, but about the extended interview.

24 dragonfire1981  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:23:27pm

re: #17 Shvaughn

Now up to seven dead at Oikos University. Horrible. :(

I'm really curious as to the motive here. That article says the student may have been disgruntled about something but nothing more. I'm worried the fact it was a Christian school will send the wingnuts into a frenzy.

I'm certain some of them already believe that Obama himself ordered the attack.

25 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:24:17pm

Just for the record, I condemn this act of graffiti and I hope the rest of you can join me in doing so.

26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:24:25pm

I'm sensing a lot of butthurt being directed at me by right wing bloggers again.

27 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:25:49pm

re: #21 Shvaughn

Wow, that Mark Dankof guy is really wacky.

Yeah, he's pretty nutty.

28 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:26:22pm

re: #25 Shvaughn

Just for the record, I condemn this act of graffiti and I hope the rest of you can join me in doing so.

Legal notice: anyone who does not express outrage and join in in the condemnation of the graffiti will be seen as agreeing with it.

29 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:28:57pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

This Ron Paul supporter has it all figured out...
'Zionist media in US diverting attention from Iran war'

Since when is this news? I thought everyone already knew that anything not attributable to the Islamist-Marxist-Kenyan-Usurper-Soros contingent can automatically be assumed to have been orchestrated by the Zionist-Fascist-Colonialist-Koch contingent. Some people are sooo naive. //

30 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:30:09pm

Advocate for Zimmerman's constitutional rights? I didn't realize killing someone without provocation was a constitutional right.

31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:30:39pm

re: #25 Shvaughn

Just for the record, I condemn this act of graffiti and I hope the rest of you can join me in doing so.

I can see why Considering you seem to have already debunked the "new" "enhanced" video.

32 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:31:10pm

re: #31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I can see why Considering you seem to have already debunked the "new" "enhanced" video.

I debunked what?

33 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:32:55pm

re: #28 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Legal notice: anyone who does not express outrage and join in in the condemnation of the graffiti will be seen as agreeing with it.

What, are you channeling Buck?

34 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:37:16pm

re: #33 CuriousLurker

What, are you channeling Buck?

Killgore.

35 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:39:22pm

I don't know why this makes me sadder. The Skittles weren't even for himself.

... These recent problems, all nonviolent, hardly reflected the essence of Trayvon Martin, his family and friends say. He was kindhearted, even-tempered and very thoughtful. That night, for example, while his father and Ms. Green were out having dinner in Orlando, Trayvon asked Chad, Ms. Green’s son, if he wanted anything from the store.

Skittles, the younger boy said.

[...]

36 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:39:53pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

I don't know why this makes me sadder. The Skittles weren't even for himself.

This should make any person with a heart sadder.

37 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:40:02pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

Yeah. The photo of the together is heartbreaking.

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:41:50pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

Oh, wait. He's 14. In another article I saw a claim that it was candy for a toddler with whom TM is seen in one of the photos.

39 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:41:58pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

I don't know why this makes me sadder. The Skittles weren't even for himself.

Case just breaks your heart. Sad that we only know him in death because he seems like he was a terrific kid. And can I express here my disgust with those trying to make him out to be this bad kid simply to make Zimmerman look better.

40 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:44:26pm

Jeez, Zimmerman's attorney must be so pleased.

/

41 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:45:31pm

Irrelevance Watch 2012

Haha, Breitbart.com complains about their troll problem and links to the tweets/posts by Charles exposing the racist comments.

Boo hoo, they can't help it, they were invaded by trolls!

42 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:45:35pm

re: #34 Shvaughn

Killgore.

Actually, I'm kinda disappointed in KT for not haranguing us about the poor company that produces the "pink slime", seeing as how they're going bankrupt thanks to the media's faux outrageous outrages.

C'mon, KT—you're slacking off here! //

43 Lidane  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:47:02pm

re: #18 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Curveball admits...he made it all up

It was obvious he was making it all up in 2003. =P

44 allegro  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:49:45pm

re: #43 Lidane

It was obvious he was making it all up in 2003. =P

But us anti-war types are just idiot moonbats who protest just for the fun of protesting.

//

45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:50:46pm

re: #41 Shvaughn

Irrelevance Watch 2012

Haha, Breitbart.com complains about their troll problem and links to the tweets/posts by Charles exposing the racist comments.

Boo hoo, they can't help it, they were invaded by trolls!

I love it. And they're even recycling Andrew Breitbart's weird "shut-in" smear. Morons.

By the way, there are some interesting comments here about this stupid article by Meredith Dake (who's yet another mini-Breit who constantly spews insults at me on Twitter), including some comments by someone who just registered at LGF.

46 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:51:23pm

re: #42 CuriousLurker

KT is an organic gardener, I believe. Pink slime isn't likely to be high on his list of products to champion.

47 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:51:32pm

re: #44 allegro

But us anti-war types are juts idiot moonbats who protest just for the fun of protesting.

//

Bunch of no good, America-hating, tree-hugging, dirty hippies. //

48 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:51:38pm

re: #41 Shvaughn

They don't seem to have fixed their Quantcast problem yet:
[Link: www.quantcast.com...]

49 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:57:32pm

re: #46 funky chicken

KT is an organic gardener, I believe. Pink slime isn't likely to be high on his list of products to champion.

It's got little to do with the actual product. I don't believe for a minute that he is a fan of Rush Limbaugh or the 1% either.

50 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 3:59:05pm

re: #49 CuriousLurker

It's got little to do with the actual product. I don't believe for a minute that he is a fan of Rush Limbaugh or the 1% either.

Based on what I've seen, it doesn't have to do with the product, but with the opposition to the product. If more liberals were making an Outrageous Outrage about pink slime (especially here), KT would take up the banner.

51 Interesting Times  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:02:40pm
52 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:12:34pm

re: #50 Shvaughn

Based on what I've seen, it doesn't have to do with the product, but with the opposition to the product. If more liberals were making an Outrageous Outrage about pink slime (especially here), KT would take up the banner.

I wonder if he did the same with conservatives when this was a right-wing blog...I wasn't here then for obvious reasons, so I don't know if his dislike of outrageous outrage is confined to liberals doing it. I could probably find out, but I don't have the stomach to go slogging through the archives.

53 Lidane  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:13:02pm

Hmm. Maybe we should ask Terry Jones about this:

Yo, is this racist?

Yo, I know that in their imaginations, White Supremacists think that if they’d only get their way, everyone would look like Dolph Lundgren or whatever, but they always forget that the actual face of racist assholes is kind of more like this half-toad half-Ned-Flanders fuckface who’s somehow both a dad and a virgin at the same time.

54 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:18:55pm

Okay, it's too quiet. How about some pics?

Puppy Jam!

55 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:20:09pm

re: #53 Lidane

Hmm. Maybe we should ask Terry Jones about this:

Yo, is this racist?

That guy's got a way with words.

56 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:20:40pm

re: #53 Lidane

His twitter feed:

[Link: twitter.com...]

57 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:21:39pm

Charles, the all-seeing Lizard Eye

58 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:23:02pm

re: #5 Lidane

Pfft. We all know that to the RWNJs, minorities don't have rights.

If they were good enough to have equal rights, they wouldn't still be a minority.

59 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:23:10pm

re: #56 freetoken

His twitter feed:

[Link: twitter.com...]

One follower:

NaziSharkPR1488 ‏ @NaziShark1488
WHITE Puertorrican,Youth NS Boricua Propagandist and Aryan Preservism Propagandist,Racial Hate,Anti Democracy,Anti Communism are my names! 14/88

Nice peeps we have gathered. (although Jesus Fucking Christ is also a follower)

60 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:23:47pm

re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist

Zimmerman's constitutional rights have not been even slighly infringed upon in any way I'm aware of. He even seems to have been given a few extra rights, such as the right to walk away from a shooting with no apparent rationale.

The NRA said he could.

61 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:23:55pm

Amanda monhollen ‏ @amonhollen
We must secure the existance of our people and a future for white children.

62 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:24:10pm

re: #59 Hoodies for Justice. T

Partly I think the guy does it just for effect, as a way of being seen in the vastly large internet where one has to paint with neon colors just to be noticed.

63 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:24:50pm

I love how Meredith Dake says I spend "all weekend" doing those posts about their racist comments. Maybe for them it would take all weekend to do something like that, but those posts usually take me about 15-30 minutes at most. Of course, I know how to use some of these new-fangled computer-type tools like macros that switch windows and copy-paste for me, but I wouldn't expect the mini-Breits to know about those.

64 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:25:08pm

Whoa. Why did I go there?

65 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:25:48pm

re: #61 Hoodies for Justice. T

Amanda monhollen ‏ @amonhollen
We must secure the existance of our people and a future for white children.

Those are Tom Metzger's infamous "14 words" -- a neo-Nazi credo.

66 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:26:57pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Those are Tom Metzger's infamous "14 words" -- a neo-Nazi credo.

I love how they use their own names (I guess) do they work? do their peeps/kids teachers have any clue? ugh.

CL, more pix PLEASE.

67 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:27:40pm

re: #59 Hoodies for Justice. T

One follower:

NaziSharkPR1488 ‏ @NaziShark1488
WHITE Puertorrican,Youth NS Boricua Propagandist and Aryan Preservism Propagandist,Racial Hate,Anti Democracy,Anti Communism are my names! 14/88

Nice peeps we have gathered. (although Jesus Fucking Christ is also a follower)

But white Latinos are just a myth created by the media.

//

68 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:27:49pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Those are Tom Metzger's infamous "14 words" -- a neo-Nazi credo.

David Lane's.

69 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:28:33pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

... these new-fangled computer-type tools like macros that switch windows and copy-paste for me ...

Sounds pretty suspicious to me. What was wrong with the old fashion kind of paste, you know, the type made out of starch or gluten or gelatin?

70 Ming  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:28:46pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Advocate for Zimmerman's constitutional rights? I didn't realize killing someone without provocation was a constitutional right.

Golly, I thought that only libruls were worried about the constitutional rights of criminals.

71 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:31:31pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

I trust you've seen this, from a third site?

I agree wholeheartedly with you about Charles Johnson and Little Green Spitballs.
Quite frankly, I'll take it one step further.
I believe that LGF and Breitbart, are both acting in concert behind the scenes, to create issues and controversey, and drive traffic to their respective sites. I believe it is all manufactured and contrived.

From the recent, soap appreciating registrant.

72 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:32:42pm

re: #66 Hoodies for Justice. T

CL, more pix PLEASE.

High gas prices

73 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:33:53pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

I trust you've seen this, from a third site?

From the recent, soap appreciating registrant.

lol, conspiracy. These folks feel sooo a l o n e.

74 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:34:51pm

re: #72 CuriousLurker

High gas prices

Do you ever go to Cagle? I used to all the time. All the political cartoons from the papers.

75 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:34:53pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

Soap?

76 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:36:05pm

re: #75 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Soap?

"It's all about selling soap."

77 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:36:09pm

re: #74 Hoodies for Justice. T

Do you ever go to Cagle? I used to all the time. All the political cartoons from the papers.

Aren't Cagles special exercises?

78 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:36:11pm

re: #74 Hoodies for Justice. T

Do you ever go to Cagle? I used to all the time. All the political cartoons from the papers.

Yep, I sure do. Went there last week, hadn't visited in quite a while.

79 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:39:56pm

Gah, the robocalls are going nuts. Thank guh the primary is tomorrow.

I just got one though that was tempting. Allegedly a live "telephone town hall" with Paul Ryan about why he supports Mittens. I thought about hanging on and trying to get in a question to Ryan about how he could continue to call himself Christian since it's obvious that he worships Ayn Rand instead of Christ Jesus. However the thought of listening to him simper and pander for long enough to get in a question made me nauseous. I hung up the phone instead.

80 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:40:51pm

Checking out about what the wingnuts are writing on these days... and going over to Townhall what strikes me from the selection of articles they put up that there is a subtle but strong flow of nihilism that is part of the churn ingredients.

This comes out especially wrt topics like energy. The strong need to cut off one's nose to spite one's face is flowing strongly over there, and elsewhere in the rabidly self-declaring "conservative" fraction of the American society.

81 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:40:55pm

re: #79 William Barnett-Lewis

Gah, the robocalls are going nuts. Thank guh the primary is tomorrow.

I just got one though that was tempting. Allegedly a live "telephone town hall" with Paul Ryan about why he supports Mittens. I thought about hanging on and trying to get in a question to Ryan about how he could continue to call himself Christian since it's obvious that he worships Ayn Rand instead of Christ Jesus. However the thought of listening to him simper and pander for long enough to get in a question made me nauseous. I hung up the phone instead.

IIRC, the last guy who tried to argue with Ryan during a town hall got hauled off and cuffed by the cops.

82 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:41:10pm

Celebrated Arizona Fool Gets Message From Secret Service, Tries Again Anyway:
[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]

83 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:42:17pm

re: #82 jaunte

linky brokey

84 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:42:20pm

re: #66 Hoodies for Justice. T

"Angry Birds" - the final chapter

85 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:43:25pm

re: #83 freetoken

Thanks, I think it will work now...

86 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:43:34pm

re: #61 Hoodies for Justice. T

If I said what I really think about that, I'd be banned. I hate nazis... 

87 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:46:10pm

re: #84 CuriousLurker

"Angry Birds" - the final chapter

Speaking of final chapters, have you tried Angry Birds in Space?

88 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:47:53pm

re: #87 Bee#

Speaking of final chapters, have you tried Angry Birds in Space?

Nah, I'm not much into games--they stress me out. Love the bird characters though, they're wayyy cute.

89 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:49:23pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Nah, I'm not much into games--they stress me out. Love the bird characters though, they're wayyy cute.

Have plushies? ;)

90 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:50:34pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

IIRC, the last guy who tried to argue with Ryan during a town hall got hauled off and cuffed by the cops.

Least this was on the phone. Worst thing they could do was make me continue to listen... ;)

91 Interesting Times  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:50:42pm
92 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:50:58pm

Hungry. Need curry. Time to fire up the toaster oven and have some Jamaican beef patties. Nom, nom, nom.

93 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:54:41pm

Violent culture:


7 dead, 3 injured, suspect caught in college shooting

Seven people were killed and three were injured after a gunman opened fire this morning on a private university in Oakland that caters to Christian students, in what ranks among the deadliest attacks on a campus in California history.

Police captured the suspected gunman inside an Alameda grocery store five miles away from the shooting site at Oikos University after he allegedly walked to the customer service counter and told employees, "I just shot some people."

A law-enforcement source close to the investigation confirmed to The Chronicle that the suspect is 43-year-old One Goh of Oakland.

The suspect used a .45-caliber handgun, spraying a classroom with gunfire and firing additional shots as he ran out, said the source, who did not wish to be identified because the investigation is ongoing.

Goh had been a nursing student at Oikos University, located at 7850 Edgewater Road in East Oakland, and there was some kind of dispute that may have resulted in him getting kicked out of at least one class, the source said.

[...]

94 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:54:47pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Tradition!
Human ancestors may have used fire a million years ago

"The analysis pushes the timing for the human use of fire back by 300,000 years, suggesting that human ancestors as early as Homo erectus may have begun using fire as part of their way of life," said researcher Michael Chazan, a paleolithic archaeologist at the University of Toronto and director of the university's archaeology center.

95 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:55:56pm

re: #94 jaunte

The paper:

[Link: www.pnas.org...]

96 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:58:26pm

re: #94 jaunte

Tradition!
Human ancestors may have used fire a million years ago

BBQ, yes!

Wait. Don't be silly, everyone knows that's not possible since humans were only created 6,000 years ago. Sheesh, you almost got me that time. //

97 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:59:02pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Nah, I'm not much into games--they stress me out. Love the bird characters though, they're wayyy cute.

Specially when they 'splode.

98 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:59:06pm

Your right! That really isn't safe for work! I hit play. I mean, we have clients in the adult industry. You wouldn't believe what's sometimes on my screen.

But I hit play on this and my business partner said! WTF?! Stop That!

99 Kragar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:59:11pm

re: #91 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

It looks like a penis, only smaller.

100 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:59:24pm

re: #94 jaunte

What is it with you & the links today? Broken...

101 darthstar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:59:39pm

I figured it was but a matter of time before assholes like this came out of the woodwork.

102 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 4:59:42pm

re: #96 CuriousLurker

Oh, it's real, just misdated. Adam's sons were BBQing dinosaurs. NOM NOM NOM!

103 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:01:18pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

Sorry: [Link: news.discovery.com...]
Working with a mouse and new computer today, instead of my accustomed Wacom pen.

104 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:02:32pm

Could prove useful in my current genealogical searching:

1940 U.S. Census data released online

105 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:02:35pm

re: #103 jaunte

Sorry: [Link: news.discovery.com...]
Working with a mouse and new computer today, instead of my accustomed Wacom pen.

You have my condolences.

106 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:03:07pm

re: #102 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Oh, it's real, just misdated. Adam's sons were BBQing dinosaurs. NOM NOM NOM!

I wonder if they had curry... Pterodactyl Tikka Masala!

107 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:03:44pm

re: #103 jaunte

You navigate the screen with a Wacom pen? I only resort to that when my mouse battery had died.

108 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:04:31pm

re: #107 ReamWorks

I can switch into more hand positions that way, and stave off the RSI.

109 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:04:32pm

It seems the US Archives server is swamped, probably by all the 1940 census searchers.

110 Lidane  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:05:12pm

*sigh*

Kirk Cameron: America Has Conditions Similar to What Led to Nazi Germany

Didn't the RWNJs spend eight goddamn years bleating in outrage over the far left morons who used the "Bush = Hitler" nonsense?

I suppose it's too much to ask for logical consistency from these people.

111 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:05:54pm

re: #103 jaunte

Working with a mouse and new computer today, instead of my accustomed Wacom pen

re: #105 Bee#

You have my condolences.

I never could get used to using my Wacom in place of a mouse or trackball.

112 Kragar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:06:03pm

re: #110 Lidane

You just beat me to that.

I blame the Nazi like conditions.

113 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:06:09pm

re: #110 Lidane

Haven't you noticed all the Freikorps marching around?

114 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:06:25pm

re: #110 Lidane

Is he talking about the strong nationalist being pushed by far-right extremists, combined with a lot of talk about the importance of the family and religion and tradition?

116 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:07:09pm

re: #111 CuriousLurker

I just switch it to mouse performance characteristics, and it works pretty well.

117 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:07:21pm

re: #115 Hoodies for Justice. T

sorry

118 freetoken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:07:25pm

re: #110 Lidane

Serious derping in that video.

119 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:08:32pm

re: #110 Lidane

*sigh*

Kirk Cameron: America Has Conditions Similar to What Led to Nazi Germany

Didn't the RWNJs spend eight goddamn years bleating in outrage over the far left morons who used the "Bush = Hitler" nonsense?

I suppose it's too much to ask for logical consistency from these people.

Well, it certainly is true that he's part of those trying to create the kind of conditions that lead to civil war in Spain and the decimation of three generations of Spaniards under the fascist regiem of Franco.

120 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:08:39pm

re: #115 Hoodies for Justice. T

gah

121 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:09:11pm

re: #111 CuriousLurker

re: #105 Bee#

I never could get used to using my Wacom in place of a mouse or trackball.

I'd only admit to using a wacom if I were Fozzy Bear.

122 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:09:16pm

re: #120 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

love/hate the internet and all that.

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:09:24pm

re: #117 Hoodies for Justice. T

You should change it to something more specific. Some people are not averse to adult themes, but may be eating at the time.

124 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:09:48pm

re: #123 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

You should change it to something more specific. Some people are not averse to adult themes, but may be eating at the time.

lol, I'm not putting any more time into that.

125 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:10:55pm

re: #115 Hoodies for Justice. T

SO HORRIFICALLY NOT SAFE FOR WORK

My wife giggled herself silly at that.

126 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:11:46pm

re: #115 Hoodies for Justice. T

Oh! That was OK for my office. We like to watch the latest Dr. Janakirim ear wax removal videos (

Youtube Video
), so this was nothing.
127 b_sharp  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:12:39pm

re: #125 Bee#

My wife giggled herself silly at that.

I laughed my ass off.

128 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:13:02pm

re: #125 Bee#

My wife giggled herself silly at that.

Oh phew! I thought I was way out of line for a sec. She's a good chick.

129 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:13:11pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

I trust you've seen this, from a third site?

From the recent, soap appreciating registrant.

Yep, I saw it. I had a funny feeling about that commenter and it looks like my intuition was right again.

I'm not going to block him, though. Give him some rope and see what he does with it.

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:13:51pm

re: #110 Lidane

*sigh*

Kirk Cameron: America Has Conditions Similar to What Led to Nazi Germany

Didn't the RWNJs spend eight goddamn years bleating in outrage over the far left morons who used the "Bush = Hitler" nonsense?

I suppose it's too much to ask for logical consistency from these people.

Finally, a former child actor wannabe cult leader will show us the way

none but the most qualified and brilliant among us


Kirk Cameron, say his name with reverent pride, along with fellow transcendent spiritual gurus Tina Yothers and Tiffany Brissette

131 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:14:22pm

re: #126 ReamWorks

Oh! That was OK for my office. We like to watch the latest Dr. Janakirim ear wax removal videos (

[Embedded content]), so this was nothing.

Oy. What's the point of this vid?

132 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:14:38pm

You LGFers are thorough! (Seeing what people post on other sites). I'm pretty much the same everywhere.

133 Kragar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:17:38pm

Georgia State Rep Votes Against Radical Anti-Abortion Measure, Citing Daughter’s Experiences

In an interview with the Savannah Morning News, Stephens recalled his daughter Ashlin’s pregnancy just a few years before, when her child was diagnosed with trisomy, a devastating genetic defect, and how this bill would have affected his family’s decision:

“At five months, they told her part of her baby’s brain was outside the skull and the heart was inverted,” he said. “They said it would take only one or two breaths. She would have watched it die.” After huddling with her family, she opted for an abortion.

When the bill initially came to a vote in the House, there was no opportunity to amend it to provide exceptions for such situations. Stephens said he was so upset he felt sick and walked off the floor during the roll call.

“For something this cruel to happen to my daughter, or anyone’s daughter,” he said, “is just plain inhumane. I consider myself pro-life, but this provision was a distortion of pro-life values.”

In response, the Peach Tea Party blasted those Republicans, claiming they “displayed a willingness to depart from the conservative principles that form the bedrock of the Georgia Republican Party platform.” A blog on the group’s website referred to those Republicans as “RINOs,” or Republicans in Name Only.

134 dell*nix  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:18:21pm

re: #104 freetoken

At the moment it is not indexed by name. Several companies are working on doing the indexing. You have to know where your family was in 1940 and look thru it page by page.

135 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:22:13pm

re: #110 Lidane

*sigh*

Kirk Cameron: America Has Conditions Similar to What Led to Nazi Germany

Didn't the RWNJs spend eight goddamn years bleating in outrage over the far left morons who used the "Bush = Hitler" nonsense?

I suppose it's too much to ask for logical consistency from these people.

America: God's Chosen Nation* suffused with infallible rightness, that is also a slough of depravity and tyranny.

*the one he isn't going to destroy when he comes back.

It is interesting that Kirk is dabbling in post-millenial eschatology as opposed to his past involvement in pre-millenialism. Basically, he's been talking more about Dominionist ideas and less about Rapture-readiness. I wonder if the buzz of imagining oneself of the few "saved" has diminished, and now he's seeking a new fix.

136 Kragar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:22:24pm

Santorum Claims California Universities Don’t Teach American History (Updated)

Santorum continued his broadside against higher education (and the facts) today in Wisconsin, claiming that “seven or eight” of the ten schools in the University of California system “don’t even teach an American history course”:

SANTORUM: I was just reading something last night from the state of California. And that the California universities – I think it’s seven or eight of the California system of universities don’t even teach an American history course. It’s not even available to be taught.

In fact, of the 10 UC system schools, just one (San Francisco) doesn’t offer American history courses. But that’s because it doesn’t offer any humanities courses at all — it’s a medical school.

Meanwhile, Berkeley, Irvine, Davis, Los Angeles, Merced, Riverside, San Diego, Santa Barbara, and Santa Cruz all offer numerous American history courses. All require students to take U.S. history before they can graduate.

137 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:22:47pm

re: #134 dell*nix

At the moment it is not indexed by name. Several companies are working on doing the indexing. You have to know where your family was in 1940 and look thru it page by page.

If you could, when you see the indexing completed, post it. My family knows where the elders were then, but boy would I love to see it in writing.

138 CuriousLurker  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:23:25pm

re: #93 freetoken

Violent culture:

7 dead, 3 injured, suspect caught in college shooting

That's horrible. It seems like the entire world is off its meds sometimes.

139 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:24:26pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

That's horrible. It seems like the entire world is off its meds sometimes.

Just the untreated, ignored peeps within it.

I wish we were more caring. And had less access to guns.

141 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:24:42pm

I found this in regards to the Sanford Shooting:

If Sanford is unwilling (or unable) to bring up charges the Federal government can always go back to the 1960's standby of using the Force Act of 1870 to send him to federal prison for 10 years.

Huh? Can someone explain?

142 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:25:19pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!

Alveda King Calls Trayvon Martin’s Death A ‘Late Abortion’ On Fox News

What a fucking disgrace that woman is. Not even clicking.

And Fox LOVED to play it, didn't they?

143 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:25:44pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

That is horrible. That is too upsetting.

144 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:26:16pm

re: #133 Kragar

Georgia State Rep Votes Against Radical Anti-Abortion Measure, Citing Daughter’s Experiences

Well, obviously Stephens just doesn't believe strongly enough in the righteousness of God's plan. His daughter should have been forced to carry that child to term, even if it died upon birth, because to do otherwise is a violation of God's will!

145 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:26:50pm

re: #136 Kragar

Santorum Claims California Universities Don’t Teach American History (Updated)

I wonder what wingnut site Santorum found that claim on.

146 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:27:28pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!

Alveda King Calls Trayvon Martin’s Death A ‘Late Abortion’ On Fox News

What. The. Fuck.

147 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:27:35pm

re: #145 Shvaughn

I just think he pulled that from his ass.

148 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:28:35pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

"And I want people to remember Treyvon with dignity..."

So I'll start by using his death to promote my anti-abortion agenda.

The fuck?!?!?

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:29:17pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!

Alveda King Calls Trayvon Martin’s Death A ‘Late Abortion’ On Fox News

Finally, here comes an anti-abortion wacko to make it all about abortion, That's what we need

diseased people

150 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:29:20pm

Ann Romney says they need to "unzip Mitt Romney" to show that he's "not stiff." Wait. What?

151 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:29:23pm

Saw this ref elsewhere. Is this real or a typo?

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

However it started, witnesses described to the 911 dispatcher what resulted: the neighborhood watch coordinator, 5 foot 9 and 170 pounds, and the visitor, 6 foot 1 and 150, wrestling on the ground.

152 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:29:37pm

re: #141 ProGunLiberal

I found this in regards to the Sanford Shooting:

Huh? Can someone explain?

Apparently, this is the the precedent.

153 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:29:46pm

re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

"And I want people to remember Treyvon with dignity..."

So I'll start by using his death to promote my anti-abortion agenda.

The fuck?!?!?

That's exactly what MLK jr would have wanted

154 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:30:20pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

Ann Romney says they need to "unzip Mitt Romney" to show that he's "not stiff." Wait. What?

DO NOT WANT!

155 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:30:25pm

re: #149 windupbird is in the gravity well

Ghouls, the fucking lot of them.

156 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:30:56pm

There's a Mitt somewhere under all that Mitt suit.

157 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:31:06pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

Talk about bringing out the old weapons. That law hasn't been used since before I was born.

158 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:31:43pm

re: #142 Hoodies for Justice. T

What a fucking disgrace that woman is. Not even clicking.

And Fox LOVED to play it, didn't they?

Recalling that Alveda King is anti-abortion, I'm having problems parsing her statement:

King, a conservative and pro-life activist, took issue with the tone of Sharpton’s rally. “I’m asking that we remember that Trayvon Martin’s family is grieving right now. And in the midst of their grieving, they don’t need a lot of anger and fear surrounding that. Certainly, Trayvon Martin – a young man cut down in his prime – I would say because of my ministry ‘aborted late.’ A late abortion.”

“America’s youth are now an endangered species,” said King. “And so we must answer this non-violently. Not with rage and not with anger. Not by playing the race card.”

“If my uncle, Dr. Martin Luther King were here today, or my dad, Dr. A.D. King, they would ask us to seek justice but to temper that with mercy,” said King. “I’m asking Rev. [Jesse] Jackson, Rev. Sharpton to remember Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. To remember non-violence.”

Seriously...I can't find how the "late abortion' part makes sense.

Edit: that she was cynically inserting abortion into this tragedy was so far from my mind it didn't occur to me that was what she was doing. Ugh.

159 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:32:36pm

re: #156 jaunte

That is what he is implying. Mitt "unzipped." That might be a bit embarrassing.

160 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:32:48pm

re: #157 ProGunLiberal

Talk about bringing out the old weapons. That law hasn't been used since before I was born.

Yeah, I actually had to look it up on Wiki, as I'd never heard of the Force Acts before today, nor heard of them being used to prosecute murder in such a manner.

Not that it really matters, because the DoJ would first have to disprove an SYG defense.

161 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:33:05pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea

Seriously...I can't find how the "late abortion' part makes sense.

It doesn't. It's just another political ghoul using the dead to push their heinous agenda.

162 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:33:28pm

BTW: The fact that Terry Jones uses a green backdrop is very handy. Someone could easily add some hard-core porn behind him (for example).

163 jaunte  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:34:03pm

re: #159 La Salle Alumna

"Unzipping Mitt" might be like trying to get to the other side of a Klein bottle.

164 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:34:05pm

re: #162 ReamWorks

I like the way you think.

165 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:34:26pm

re: #160 Targetpractice

It would certainly be unusual, and if done, would be a spectacle.

The first "Force Act" trial since the Civil Rights Era.

166 Obdicut  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:34:42pm

re: #151 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

He looks a lot more like a 170 than a 250.

167 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:35:25pm

re: #165 ProGunLiberal

It would certainly be unusual, and if done, would be a spectacle.

The first "Force Act" trial since the Civil Rights Era.

Like I said, the only way the DoJ could conceivably do it is if evidence becomes available that would conclusively disprove GZ's claim of "self-defense," but Florida continued to refuse to bring murder charges.

168 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:35:59pm

re: #166 Obdicut

He looks a lot more like a 170 than a 250.

Yes. I think the 220 or whatever figure was taken from his earlier arrest many years ago. Now he is more lean.

169 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:36:45pm

...firing up Adobe Premiere and After Effects! Hang on....

170 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:37:14pm

re: #169 ReamWorks

While I like your idea, I won't watch it.

171 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:37:35pm

re: #163 jaunte

"Unzipping Mitt" might be like trying to get to the other side of a Klein bottle.

It would be like the "pull off the mask" reveal at the end of a Scooby Doo episode combined with a Moebius strip.

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:37:59pm

On a lighter note, YouTube recently announced the release of their YouTube Collection...

The YouTube Collection: The Magic of YouTube in Your Hands

Youtube Video
173 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:42:30pm

re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

On a lighter note, YouTube recently announced the release of their YouTube Collection...

The YouTube Collection: The Magic of YouTube in Your Hands

[Embedded content]

For no particular reason, that reminded me of this.

I'll have to go work off that first slice now. Later, lizards.

174 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:43:06pm

re: #168 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Yes. I think the 220 or whatever figure was taken from his earlier arrest many years ago. Now he is more lean.

On the other hand, the NYT figure, as I have found just now, corresponds to Joe Oliver's earlier interview. I don't know if the interview is the source of the figure, but it could be. In any case, it is possible that their weights were quite close.

175 Kragar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:43:48pm

re: #171 The Ghost of a Flea

It would be like the "pull off the mask" reveal at the end of a Scooby Doo episode combined with a Moebius strip.

"And now lets see who has been working so hard to destroy the GOP... RUPERT MURDOCH!!!"

"And I've gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids!"

176 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:44:23pm

re: #151 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

Saw this ref elsewhere. Is this real or a typo?

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Yeah - I caught that also. There have been a lot of varied estimates of his weight - varying over a very wide range.

177 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:45:20pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

mother of cake!!!

178 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:47:24pm

re: #177 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

mother of cake!!!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian hasn't been around much. I miss him.

179 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:51:50pm

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Now that you mention it, I haven't seen him around here lately. Is he okay?

180 Talking Point Detective  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:51:53pm

A thought on the Cali shooting.

If he had been a rightwinger, the rightwing would be explaining how that isn't important (and lefties would be pointing it out). If he were a lefty, lefties would be explaining why that isn't important (and the right would be pointing it out). If he were black white supremacists would be talking about how he's an example of black on white violence. If he were white, some folks on the left would be pointing out how these mass shooters are almost never, ever, black. In all those cases, people in the group he might be aligned with would vociferously doubt any significance to his racial or ideological identity.

But having lived in Korea and worked closely with many Koreans over about 15 years, I'm reasonably sure that if it's confirmed that he's Korean, while no one from other groups will be jumping up and down to talk about the significance of his national or racial identity (well, outside of maybe some white supremacists), most Koreans will be in absolute horror about his Korean identity.

181 Mich-again  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:54:49pm

re: #151 Liberty Hedgehog (fka Freedom Alligator)

I'm 170. Zimmerman is 40-50 pounds heavier.

182 darthstar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:54:53pm

Holy shit...Yoda just died.

183 darthstar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:56:58pm

re: #182 darthstar

Holy shit...Yoda just died.

And why does the ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi need to sit down when he's talking to Luke?

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:58:18pm

re: #182 darthstar

Holy shit...Yoda just died.

Frank Oz?

185 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:58:25pm

re: #182 darthstar

Upding for Star Wars. And he wants to close to Luke.

186 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:58:56pm

re: #184 William Barnett-Lewis

I think he is watching the movies.

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 5:59:16pm

re: #183 darthstar

And why does the ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi need to sit down when he's talking to Luke?

Jedi ghosting his hard on the feet.

188 darthstar  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:00:26pm

re: #187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Jedi ghosting his hard on the feet.

Apparently so. All that use of The Force must cause bunions...

189 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:04:05pm

Time to crank up the FTL com and head to the Star Empire of Manticore. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

191 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:10:51pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

Ann Romney says they need to "unzip Mitt Romney" to show that he's "not stiff." Wait. What?

Can these people say anything that isn't embarrassing? I'm glad they found each other and all, but wow.

192 Shvaughn  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:10:52pm

re: #190 Shvaughn

Also was echoed in the WSJ.

193 keithgabryelski  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:13:33pm

here is his theory:

the n-word is an offensive word no matter who uses it.

sure.

but you miss the point if you leave it at that. the n-word is an offensive word if used by anyone -- offensive like the f-word, it is an unacceptable word if used by a white person.

is that a double standard? why YES, yes it is. deal with it. we have plenty of double standards in this world, because things are different if you are black or white, man or woman, and child or adult.

get the hell over it.

and, by the way, don't think no one noticed you saying "black is black, white is white -- what relationship can the darkness have with light?" shall i return that dog whistle you putz?

i'm surprised you didn't complete your sentence by using the word niggardly with a smirk on your face "oh, it just means stingy -- swear that's how i meant it -- and those damn n-words are preventing me from using the english language".

welcome to racism -- you are the face of it.

194 JRCMYP  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:18:29pm

re: #133 Kragar

Georgia State Rep Votes Against Radical Anti-Abortion Measure, Citing Daughter’s Experiences

No one thinks they'll have an abortion until they need one. That's why these bills show such incredible arrogance.

195 Lidane  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:19:29pm

re: #190 Shvaughn

This report by the right-wing "National Association of Scholars" is the likely source for Santorum's lies about the University of California not teaching American History.

And a simple fact-check was too hard for Team Santorum, I guess?

UCLA offers a History major which itself requires courses in US History. And if UCLA offers it, it's a good bet that the other schools in the UC system offer something similar.

196 Lidane  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:21:28pm

re: #194 JRCMYP

No one thinks they'll have an abortion until they need one. That's why these bills show such incredible arrogance.

Exactly.

My very Catholic cousin and his wife had a situation very similar to that Georgia rep's daughter. They ultimately chose abortion for that child, and now have two lovely children that are happy and healthy.

197 Achilles Tang  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:50:14pm

re: #193 keithgabryelski

here is his theory:

the n-word is an offensive word no matter who uses it.

sure.

but you miss the point if you leave it at that. the n-word is an offensive word if used by anyone -- offensive like the f-word, it is an unacceptable word if used by a white person.

is that a double standard? why YES, yes it is. deal with it. we have plenty of double standards in this world, because things are different if you are black or white, man or woman, and child or adult.

get the hell over it.

and, by the way, don't think no one noticed you saying "black is black, white is white -- what relationship can the darkness have with light?" shall i return that dog whistle you putz?

i'm surprised you didn't complete your sentence by using the word niggardly with a smirk on your face "oh, it just means stingy -- swear that's how i meant it -- and those damn n-words are preventing me from using the english language".

welcome to racism -- you are the face of it.

Late to this: I agree with you; there are standards that apply differently to different people because that is how social conventions have evolved, and how they are even if we could imagine a world where they were different.

It is however a pity that ignorance of language causes words to be disallowed just because they have a certain similarity to another with a completely different meaning and origin, like niggardly.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 7:07:12pm

re: #24 dragonfire1981

I'm really curious as to the motive here. That article says the student may have been disgruntled about something but nothing more. I'm worried the fact it was a Christian school will send the wingnuts into a frenzy.

I'm certain some of them already believe that Obama himself ordered the attack.

They're already pulling themselves apart like the three-headed bird in Baron Munchausen. It's a Christian school, so, an attack on Christians, but it's also in Oakland, lair of the liberals, so they had it coming, and also, immigrants.

199 keithgabryelski  Mon, Apr 2, 2012 7:21:26pm

re: #197 Flame Fin Tomini Tang

It is however a pity that ignorance of language causes words to be disallowed just because they have a certain similarity to another with a completely different meaning and origin, like niggardly.

collateral damage occurs every day.

You don't name your kid Adolf -- you don't wear THAT mustache.

it's a small price considering the amount of pain that has been produced with the n-word.

200 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:05:57am

Charles Johnson,

That guy, the one that appeared in the video with the green background actually makes one or valid points. Racism is bad, no matter color the person who is a racist maybe, or what group he thinks is inherently superior. Through I will admit that Terry Jones looked like an Idiot in that video. But given what was later said in the video, I wonder if it was on purposes, at least in this instance.


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