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1 freetoken  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:10:09pm

Images of the Keystone Cops race to mind...

2 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:10:15pm

"Bizarre" isn't quite strong enough a word for what this has become.

3 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:10:50pm

Not to keep beating a dead horse, but this means the attorney who confirmed that website was authentic actually had no idea.

4 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:11:06pm

Wow. I wonder if Zimmerman is still carrying a 9mm pistol?

5 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:02pm

re: #3 neilk

Not to keep beating a dead horse, but this means the attorney who confirmed that website was authentic actually had no idea.

No, the attorneys say that they've been in daily contact with George up til now, through text and email.

6 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:10pm

re: #3 neilk

Not to keep beating a dead horse, but this means the attorney who confirmed that website was authentic actually had no idea.

Non sequitur. Last contact - Sunday, the timing allows.

7 Kragar  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:15pm

Have they tried contacting him via his website?

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:17pm

Did anyone tell him not to leave town?

If not, I suppose there's not reason he can't wander away from the mess if he sees fit.

9 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:38pm

I can't see the video. Are they saying they "lost contact" as in no one can find him? Or do they mean He is not returning our calls?

10 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:52pm

Going off the deep end, maybe.

The amount of stress he's under must be huge.

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:12:53pm

And now we get the lawyers basically writing their own narrative of what happened. How cute.

12 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:14:06pm

Maybe he's just all boozed up somewhere?

13 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:14:12pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

They said up until Sunday, which is when the site went up. They also spoke specifically about not having talked to him about the web site -- they claim they authenticated it by talking to a third party.

14 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:14:30pm

Which is why the Florida law is a joke, you moron!

15 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:14:35pm

re: #12 Johnny Derp

That's a best case scenario.

16 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:14:39pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Wow. I wonder if Zimmerman is still carrying a 9mm pistol?

Not to sound too morbid, but I'm starting to wonder if this guy is still alive.

17 Lidane  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:15:09pm

re: #13 neilk

They said up until Sunday, which is when the site went up. They also spoke specifically about not having talked to him about the web site -- they claim they authenticated it by talking to a third party.

So they didn't know about the website before it went up? That explains a lot.

18 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:15:28pm

re: #9 The Round Heeled Savage Cannibal Ghoul

He's not returning their calls, but he is contacting other people (Sean Hannity, the special prosecutor) while dodging them.

19 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:16:11pm

re: #13 neilk

They said up until Sunday, which is when the site went up. They also spoke specifically about not having talked to him about the web site -- they claim they authenticated it by talking to a third party.

Sunday included. Linky for the last bit?

20 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:16:16pm

re: #17 Lidane

So they didn't know about the website before it went up? That explains a lot.

That's what they said. They said they were planning to launch the first website, but then Z did an end-run around them and set up the second one himself.

21 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:16:20pm

When did the phony Zimmerman site go up?

22 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:16:51pm

re: #19 Johnny Derp

Linky for the last bit?

There'll surely be a transcript of the press conference up soon. It was before they started taking questions.

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:17:07pm

re: #22 neilk

There'll surely be a transcript of the press conference up soon. It was before they started taking questions.

OK.

24 blueraven  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:18:34pm

So...
no contact w/ attorneys for three days (only contact at all has been by phone, text, email).
They dont know where he is (or wont say) but said he is not in Florida.
George contacted Sean Hannity w/o their knowledge and wont reveal what was said.
Set up website without prior knowledge of attorneys.
The attorneys had set up a meeting between George and prosecutor but George told prosecutor they were not his attorneys, just legal advisers.
Prosecutors said they would not meet with him without legal counsel.

25 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:18:41pm

Why would I not be surprised to find out that this lawyer has an FR account?

26 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:18:55pm

I don't think it's phony. It seems genuine to me - not a simple hoax. You don't set up a Paypal account for a simple hoax, that involves committing criminal fraud if you misrepresent your identity.

To me, it absolutely fits, if he's behaving erratically, that he would set up a website like that.

27 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:20:19pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

I don't think it's phony. It seems genuine to me - not a simple hoax. You don't set up a Paypal account for a simple hoax, that involves committing criminal fraud if you misrepresent your identity.

To me, it absolutely fits, if he's behaving erratically, that he would set up a website like that.

There is/was a phony george zimmermann - two 'n's'

28 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:20:39pm

re: #20 neilk

That's what they said. They said they were planning to launch the first website, but then Z did an end-run around them and set up the second one himself.

Right - they stated again that it was Zimmerman's site, not a fake. I'm convinced it actually is Zimmerman's site. He set it all up right there at GoDaddy after registering the domain on Sunday.

29 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:20:49pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

I don't think it's phony. It seems genuine to me - not a simple hoax. You don't set up a Paypal account for a simple hoax, that involves committing criminal fraud if you misrepresent your identity.

To me, it absolutely fits, if he's behaving erratically, that he would set up a website like that.

Yep. An attorney usually doesn't simply make such things up or go upon unconfirmed information, so it has to be assumed they knew what they were talking about, unless there is evidence that they didn't.

30 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:21:17pm

The Loop posted a chain of email correspondence with the person behind therealgeorgezimmerman.com earlier today. In one of the messages, Zimmerman says they can authenticate his identity with Sean Hannity since he spoke with him that day. And now we see his (ex)lawyers confirming that Zimmerman spoke to Hannity.

31 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:21:53pm

re: #27 researchok

There is/was a phony george zimmermann - two 'n's'

I'm talking about the site I posted about yesterday, with the picture of graffiti vandalism on the OSU Black Cultural Center.

32 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:22:16pm

I checked my History:

www.therealgeorgezimmermann.com is till up

33 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:22:39pm

re: #32 researchok

Sorry, it has nothing to do with the real site.

34 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:23:13pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, that's a real site.

I just wondered about the other site, if he saw it, sent him off the deep end- like that.

35 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:23:24pm

re: #10 researchok

Going off the deep end, maybe.

The amount of stress he's under must be huge.

And I just can't summon enough fuck to give to Zimmerman.

Fuck him, because this is a situation that he created from whole cloth; with all of his "stress", Zimmerman is still far and away much better off than Trayvon Martin, who is still dead by Zimmerman's hand.

36 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:23:41pm

re: #33 Johnny Derp

I know- that's why I referred to it as the phony site.

37 jaunte  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:24:22pm
Sonner told reporters that Zimmerman allegedly since called Sean Hannity directly and had an off-the-record conversation with the Fox News anchor; Hannity is not disclosing the contents of that discussion, Sonner said.

Is that conversation protected, or would Hannity at some point have to divulge what they discussed?

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:24:59pm

re: #35 talon_262

And I just can't summon enough fuck to give to Zimmerman.

Fuck him, because this is a situation that he created from whole cloth; with all of his "stress", Zimmerman is still far and away much better off than Trayvon Martin, who is still dead by Zimmerman's hand.

I think we may be dealing with a fundamentally immature and self-centered person, who simply can't comprehend what happened, or how to handle the craziness that's folllowed.

39 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:25:34pm

So the purpose of the conference was just to get the press of their backs with demands for interviews and updates. Funny that they couldn't just issue a press release and leave it at that.

40 jaunte  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:26:05pm

A threatened 'Stand Your Ground' practitioner is on the loose.

41 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:27:12pm

re: #37 jaunte

Is that conversation protected, or would Hannity at some point have to divulge what they discussed?

IANAL, but I'd think that Hannity could only be compelled to divulge any info under subpoena or face contempt charges.

Somehow, I doubt their little talk qualifies for any journalistic protections, but I could be wrong.

42 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:28:01pm

Zimmerman's website has the classic crazy person look to it, by the way. Weird mismatched colors and images piled in with no real design at all. I think they really need to take that guy into custody as soon as possible.

43 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:28:36pm

re: #40 jaunte

A threatened 'Stand Your Ground' practitioner is on the loose.

Scared because he knows he murdered someone. Knows there's a good chance he'll have to stand trial.

And is in possession of the murder weapon. Not too terrifying.

44 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:29:16pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Before he hurts others or himself.

45 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:29:32pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

He may snap...

46 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:29:56pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Zimmerman's website has the classic crazy person look to it, by the way. Weird mismatched colors and images piled in with no real design at all. I think they really need to take that guy into custody as soon as possible.

The server has been hammered every time I tried to look at it; is it Time Cube crazy?

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:30:34pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Zimmerman's website has the classic crazy person look to it, by the way. Weird mismatched colors and images piled in with no real design at all. I think they really need to take that guy into custody as soon as possible.

I'm not sure it's actually possible to assess someone's mental health by web design--lack of technical skill, or lack of taste can easily give a false positive for crazy.

48 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:30:53pm

re: #46 talon_262

The server has been hammered every time I tried to look at it; is it Time Cube crazy?

No but it's pretty nutty.

49 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:31:03pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Zimmerman's website has the classic crazy person look to it, by the way. Weird mismatched colors and images piled in with no real design at all. I think they really need to take that guy into custody as soon as possible.

Personally, considering the picture they just got done putting together, I'd have his ass on suicide watch.

50 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:31:19pm

So what's the verdict? Did he flee? Did he off himself? Is he just a moron? and finally... Sean Hannity?

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:31:20pm

re: #46 talon_262

The server has been hammered every time I tried to look at it; is it Time Cube crazy?

NOTHING is Time Cube crazy.

52 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:32:01pm

re: #43 JustJay

Murders happen everyday.

Murderers are convicted everyday.

This guy is in the media/national spotlight, way more than the everyday, garden variety killer. That screws with your head- it is not a stretch to say he could go off the deep end and snap.

53 CSUH2001  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:32:09pm

I would always hear people say how evil FOX news is but I thought they were exaggerating. So Hannity has been in touch with this guy? He needs to tell the world what Zimmerman said.

54 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:32:34pm

re: #50 Major Tom

So what's the verdict? Did he flee? Did he off himself? Is he just a moron? and finally... Sean Hannity?

Dad's basement?

55 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:32:46pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not sure it's actually possible to assess someone's mental health by web design--lack of technical skill, or lack of taste can easily give a false positive for crazy.

True, but sloppy, disjointed behavior, lack of a cogent message, etc., (as reflected in the website) is a sign of deterioration.

56 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:33:32pm

re: #53 CSUH2001

I would always hear people say how evil FOX news is but I thought they were exaggerating. So Hannity has been in touch with this guy? He needs to tell the world what Zimmerman said.

I've suspected his guilt from day one, but the fact that he went to Hannity kind of seals it for me.

re: #54 Mich-again

Dad's basement?

I was thinking dad's Cessna.

57 blueraven  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:33:40pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not sure it's actually possible to assess someone's mental health by web design--lack of technical skill, or lack of taste can easily give a false positive for crazy.

I guess Charles is tuned in to the website design...but the content is what strikes me. The huge flag backdrop and the nutty, inappropriate photos and quotes.

58 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:33:44pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not sure it's actually possible to assess someone's mental health by web design--lack of technical skill, or lack of taste can easily give a false positive for crazy.

Oh, there are plenty of reasons, design is not one of them.

59 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:35:12pm

Terry Jones rally photo.
Vandalized black cultural center photo.
Sean Hannity.

I don't care if he is registered as a Democrat. He acts like a far-right nut.

60 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:35:48pm

re: #59 Johnny Derp

Emphasis on nut.

61 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:36:21pm

re: #59 Johnny Derp

Simple enough explanation:

He's a Modern-Day Dixiecrat.

62 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:36:31pm

re: #60 researchok

Emphasis on nut.

Yes, but he seems to know on which side his bread is buttered.

63 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:36:38pm

re: #46 talon_262

The server has been hammered every time I tried to look at it; is it Time Cube crazy?

Not that ambitious - it was quickly (and badly) thrown together from one of the templates in the GoDaddy Website Builder. If you've ever registered a domain at GoDaddy, you know how you get the endless list of add-ons you have to say you don't want? Well, it's somewhere in there.

Zimmerman went to GoDaddy, registered the domain, then chose a cheapo hosting plan and used that simple site designer to get it online. I've never used those GoDaddy options so I don't know exactly how they work, but there may be a way to set up a Paypal account too, or Zimmerman might have had that already.

64 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:36:41pm

re: #52 researchok

Oh, I completely agree! I have to think the screws in his head weren't and aren't properly seated. And him in possession of a gun? For some reason, it makes me think of that guy who killed Versace and all the others in a spree killing, which, IIRC, started with police pursuit.

To say this guy is at risk of a complete mental breakdown is an understatement.

65 jaunte  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:36:52pm
66 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:37:56pm

Yikes.
This guy is not only a danger to others, but to himself as this drags on.

67 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:38:10pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Not that ambitious - it was quickly (and badly) thrown together from one of the templates in the GoDaddy Website Builder. If you've ever registered a domain at GoDaddy, you know how you get the endless list of add-ons you have to say you don't want? Well, it's somewhere in there.

Zimmerman went to GoDaddy, registered the domain, then chose a cheapo hosting plan and used that simple site designer to get it online. I've never used those GoDaddy options so I don't know exactly how they work, but there may be a way to set up a Paypal account too, or Zimmerman might have had that already.

Been there, done that, hosted somewhere else.

68 Ming  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:38:21pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Wow. I wonder if Zimmerman is still carrying a 9mm pistol?

Good question! Of course, the heartbreaking tragedy of Trayvon Martin overwhelms everything else. But beyond that, I cannot get over the fact that right now, it's perfectly legal for George Zimmerman to be walking around at night, with whatever weapon or weapons he feels he needs to be safe, following whomever he wants to follow.

I want to believe that the police in the area (Sanford, or wherever Zimmerman may be) are concerned that this guy lost contact with his lawyers, and may be walking around with his 9 mm. But I assume that if they care, it's not because of the potential loss of life, but simply because if anything happened, they'd get more bad publicity.

69 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:38:54pm

re: #62 Johnny Derp

What butter?

He changes his party affiliation after he killed the kid?

The guy is in a bad way- nothing to do with politics.

70 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:39:16pm

re: #59 Johnny Derp

Terry Jones rally photo.
Vandalized black cultural center photo.
Sean Hannity.

I don't care if he is registered as a Democrat. He acts like a far-right nut.

As evidenced by his contacting Hannity. I can't see a Dem contacting Hannity for anything.

71 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:39:29pm

The attorneys also imprudently announced that Zimmerman isn't in Florida, by the way.

72 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:40:23pm

re: #69 researchok

What butter?

He changes his party affiliation after he killed the kid?

The guy is in a bad way- nothing to do with politics.

Sean Hannity is a political pundit. By contacting him and him alone GZ plays politics.

73 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:40:44pm

re: #70 JustJay

To me, it is clear he went or is going off the deep end.

74 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:40:50pm

re: #71 neilk

Of course. He's with his father. I've been thinking that for a while.

75 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:41:21pm

Let me guess. GZ will turn himself into the NBP and demand the reward money to fund a new set a lawyers.
///

76 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:42:02pm

re: #72 Johnny Derp

Right- so he killed the guy as a Dem and now that he wants to get off, he heads right.

SR, in my opinion the guy is having a meltdown.

77 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:42:11pm

It's like someone contacting Keith Olbermann. Come on.

78 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:42:43pm

re: #77 Johnny Derp

Exactly.

79 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:42:56pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not sure it's actually possible to assess someone's mental health by web design--lack of technical skill, or lack of taste can easily give a false positive for crazy.

[Link: abovegod.com...]

80 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:43:18pm

re: #72 Johnny Derp

Sean Hannity is a political pundit. By contacting him and him alone GZ plays politics.

He did?

81 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:43:33pm

re: #73 researchok

To me, it is clear he went or is going off the deep end.

Yes. It's the ending poorly that scares the crap out of me. His having a gun and being no one knows where adds to that. I fear collateral damage.

82 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:43:36pm

re: #76 researchok

Right- so he killed the guy as a Dem and now that he wants to get off, he heads right.

SR, in my opinion the guy is having a meltdown.

Well, that's my point. He knows where his bread is buttered, whether he himself is on the right or not. Not so much a meltdown as a calculation.

83 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:43:51pm

re: #79 windupbird is in the gravity well

[Link: abovegod.com...]

You have a future as a practitioner in analysis.

84 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:43:58pm

re: #80 Varek Raith

He did?

Yep.

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:44:14pm

re: #83 researchok

You have a future in analysis.

I've heard him speak on the radio! He's breathtaking

86 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:44:35pm

Seriously though, he's being watched, right? I mean, can you think of a greater flight risk? What does he have here anymore? Jail or a life of looking over your shoulder in fear of Karma? If I were 100 IQ points less and a pathetic loser, that is to say, if I was Zimmerman, I'd run.

87 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:45:26pm

re: #82 Johnny Derp

I misunderstood you.

Clearly, he's reaching out to anything/anyone who might keep him afloat.

Desperation, panic, etc.

88 Varek Raith  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:46:11pm

Not only is he a flight risk, but he's in danger of some damn fool gunning for him.
I hope someone in the FBI knows where he is.

89 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:46:27pm

re: #87 researchok

Yup.

90 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:47:46pm

re: #72 Johnny Derp

Sean Hannity is a political pundit. By contacting him and him alone GZ plays politics.

If he's paranoid enough that he really does believe all the right-wing bullshit about Obama's brownshirts and secret plans to turn the country over to the Russians after the election, he may actually believe that Great American Sean Hannity can shine the light of truth and make the evil government agents stop following him. He would use the time-honored code phrase, "What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

91 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:48:47pm

re: #89 Johnny Derp

A whole series of tragedies.

I believe Cosby got it right- it's about the gun culture.

Zimmerman would never have gone after Martin if he didn't have a gun.

As a friend noted, the guy thought he was Wyatt Earp.

92 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:48:56pm

I think GZ just wanted Hannity to pimp his website on the show tonight.

93 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:49:40pm

re: #91 researchok

As a friend noted, the guy thought he was Wyatt Earp.

Wyatt Derp?

94 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:50:30pm

re: #92 Mich-again

I think he is desperately looking for friends and support.

As his statement noted, life as he knew it is over.

95 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:50:43pm

re: #90 Satanic Ritual Kazoo

If he's paranoid enough that he really does believe all the right-wing bullshit about Obama's brownshirts and secret plans to turn the country over to the Russians after the election, he may actually believe that Great American Sean Hannity can shine the light of truth and make the evil government agents stop following him. He would use the time-honored code phrase, "What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

I've no idea what he thinks of Obama. I know what his father thinks though:

I never foresaw so much hate coming from the president...

If he's a chip off an old block...

96 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:50:58pm

re: #93 Mich-again

Wyatt Derp?

Vladimir Derp

97 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:52:39pm

re: #71 neilk

The attorneys also imprudently announced that Zimmerman isn't in Florida, by the way.

O RLY?!?

re: #94 researchok

I think he is desperately looking for friends and support.

As his statement noted, life as he knew it is over.

And, at this point, nothing left to lose but his freedom and his life.

98 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:53:08pm

Where on Earth is George Zimmerman?

99 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:54:09pm

Robert Zimmerman appeared on Hannity's show last Thursday to defend his son George. That's probably how George got Hannity's contact information. You don't just call Fox News and ask to speak to Sean.

100 Sionainn  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:54:14pm

re: #95 Johnny Derp

I've no idea what he thinks of Obama. I know what his father thinks though:

If he's a chip off an old block...

...which is amazing because Obama didn't say anything hateful. It must be sad to be a wingnut and have meanings of words switch into awful crazy things somewhere in the brain.

101 researchok  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:56:39pm

re: #98 Johnny Derp

Where on Earth is George Zimmerman?

I heard Putin gave him a job.

102 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:56:46pm

re: #72 Johnny Derp

Sean Hannity is a political pundit. By contacting him and him alone GZ plays politics.

It strikes me that this may be the first major example of the Conservative cult interfering with the rule of law.

From the looks of it, it sounds as if George's father is a Conservativist, regardless of whatever party affiliation he may have. The unprompted ranting about 'Obama injecting race' and so on is just repetition of the cult memes that spring up, and repeating those bizarre memes makes his belief system pretty obvious. Unhinged as the cult is, they've clearly decided that a) the 'blacks' are forming an army to kill Zimmerman, b) the bloodthirsty liberal media is trying to crucify him, c) the wicked Muslim President wants him lynched to rally votes, or some combination of random conspiracy theories I can't think of. This is, after all, the sort of theories that Conservativists read every day of their lives.

Given the huge monolithic evil arrayed against him, it seems very likely, if this thing about contacting Hannity is true, that Zimmerman and/or his father have decided that the only way to save his life is to 'seek asylum', if you will, with the cult leaders. In other words, to run from the law, which is nothing more than the stormtroopers of the Kenyan usurper, and go to the real American patriots for help.

Those complaining about how all of this is the media's fault may not have seen anything yet. I think we may be about to see the first real demonstration of who really runs America - the rule of law or the Conservativist media.

103 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:56:55pm

re: #99 Mich-again

Robert Zimmerman appeared on Hannity's show last Thursday to defend his son George. That's probably how George got Hannity's contact information. You don;t just call Fox News and ask to speak to Sean.

No, no no.. You scream his name into storm drains and gutters. You have to go where they live.

104 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:57:40pm

re: #100 Sionainn

...which is amazing because Obama didn't say anything hateful. It must be sad to be a wingnut and have meanings of words switch into awful crazy things somewhere in the brain.

The "hateful" thing Obama did was express his sympathies to Martin's parents and say if he had a son that he would look like Trevyon. In Hannity's paranoid world that is hatred but buddying and being chummy with a white supremacist which Sean actually did is not.

105 makeitstop  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:57:51pm

re: #99 Mich-again

Robert Zimmerman appeared on Hannity's show last Thursday to defend his son George. That's probably how George got Hannity's contact information. You don't just call Fox News and ask to speak to Sean.

I think if a call came in out of the blue for Hannity and the caller said he was George Zimmerman, Hannity would be a bigger idiot than I've always believed him to be if he didn't pick up.

106 Obdicut  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:58:25pm

re: #103 Major Tom

No, no no.. You scream his name into storm drains and gutters. You have to go where they live.

Hey now, I've met some great people in the gutter.

107 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:58:40pm

're: #102 Renaissance_Man

Given the huge monolithic evil arrayed against him, it seems very likely, if this thing about contacting Hannity is true, that Zimmerman and/or his father have decided that the only way to save his life is to 'seek asylum', if you will, with the cult leaders.

The new "Underground Railroad" ?

108 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 2:59:05pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

That's Zimmerman Sr. who said that. Which is even spookier.

109 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:01:02pm

re: #105 makeitstop

That proposition can be tested.

110 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:01:10pm

re: #108 Johnny Derp

That's Zimmerman Sr. who said that. Which is even spookier.

Yeah I heard about that. Really Obama responded to this situation like a father. Zimmerman Sr needs to get it through his head that his son wasn't the victim here.

111 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:02:28pm
112 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:03:56pm

re: #111 ProGunLiberal

Sorry, that's too far. Family is more than just father, son, and some anon relative. You can't call them all like that.

113 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:04:18pm

tee hee

Former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas and his onetime deputy, Lisa Aubuchon, were stripped of their law licenses today as a disciplinary panel handed down the toughest sanctions possible for ethical violations in a case that attracted national interest.
The panel also suspended Rachel Alexander, another Thomas deputy, from practicing law for six months and one day for her role in filing a federal civil racketeering lawsuit against judges and county officials.

yeaaaaaaah

114 bluecheese  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:04:29pm

I've come to the conclusion that George Zimmerman just isn't all that bright.

His story about what happened that night is full of lies I think.

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:05:04pm

best line

Moriarity said he and his team of lawyers did the best job they could for Aubuchon.

“One of the most devastating things is when the audience clapped. It’s like somebody clapping at a funeral.”

Yep!

116 dragonfire1981  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:05:50pm

re: #98 Johnny Derp

Where on Earth is George Zimmerman?

Sing it Rockapella!

(Huge brownie points for reference)

117 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:05:50pm

re: #111 ProGunLiberal

Come on, man. That kind of stuff is not cool, and you know it.

118 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:07:51pm

re: #114 bluecheese

I've come to the conclusion that George Zimmerman just isn't all that bright.

His story about what happened that night is full of lies I think.

Yeah, I think you're right about that.

119 Tigger2005  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:08:12pm

re: #98 Johnny Derp

Where on Earth is George Zimmerman?

He's staying with Elvis until all this blows over.

120 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:09:02pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

True, I'll give you that.

However, they do seem to be racist and over-entitled. This is the same family that asserted that George-y here was a parallel to Tom from How to Kill a Mockingbird in a Letter to AG Holder.

121 dragonfire1981  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:09:35pm

I am seriously starting to suspect that Zimmerman will never be arrested, found or put on trial. Instead he will remain in hiding, possibly in a carribean nation, until he dies.

122 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:11:01pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

As sad as it is to say, I think you may have a point. Florida's not that far to those nations.

123 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:11:16pm

re: #120 ProGunLiberal

True, I'll give you that.

However, they do seem to be racist and over-entitled. This is the same family that asserted that George-y here was a parallel to Tom from How to Kill a Mockingbird in a Letter to AG Holder.

I think the issue is that you broadbrushed the whole family as racist. Comparing his plight to Tom in To Kill a Mockingbird is moronic as shit though.

124 carlaschluge  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:11:22pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

If he's charged, he'll turn himself in.

125 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:12:17pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I think the issue is that you broadbrushed the whole family as racist.

As well as cockroaches.

126 Tigger2005  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:12:23pm

re: #121 dragonfire1981

I am seriously starting to suspect that Zimmerman will never be arrested, found or put on trial. Instead he will remain in hiding, possibly in a carribean nation, until he dies.

Not having been charged with anything, he's pretty much free to do what he wants isn't he? I know on the cop shows they tell people of interest to "not go anywhere," but they can't legally stop them, can they?

127 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:12:47pm

re: #125 Johnny Derp

As well as cockroaches.

Right.

128 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:13:38pm

re: #124 carlaschluge

If he's charged, he'll turn himself in.

According to whom? Lawyers who haven't spoken to him in days and who don't seem to be have been consulted on much of anything?

129 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:13:42pm

re: #126 Tigger2005

Not having been charged with anything, he's pretty much free to do what he wants isn't he? I know on the cop shows they tell people of interest to "not go anywhere," but they can't legally stop them, can they?

No, but they can extradite him. Lots of murderers successfully hop the border before the cops start looking for them, and lots of them get sent back.

130 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:14:10pm

re: #124 carlaschluge

If he's charged, he'll turn himself in.

Maybe. But you don't know that.

131 carlaschluge  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:15:05pm

re: #130 Johnny Derp

True. Just a hunch.

132 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:16:04pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Fair point. I lost my cool there for a second.

Now, I have a point to make about the case. Zimmerman supposely got beaten to a pulp on the pavement, and looked reasonably normal just 30-45 minutes later.

This is bullshit, and I know personally. Why? Because, I went to walk in the apartment just now, and in my klutzy-ness, my head hit a door jamb after looking at something. I can feel the blood on my scalp from just this minor hit.

Also, ow.

133 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:17:03pm

I'll give Santorum this much: he brought out the talent!

Porn stars against Santorum

134 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:17:28pm

re: #132 ProGunLiberal

Fair point. I lost my cool there for a second.

Now, I have a point to make about the case. Zimmerman supposely got beaten to a pulp on the pavement, and looked reasonably normal just 30-45 minutes later.

This is bullshit, and I know personally. Why? Because, I went to walk in the apartment just now, and in my klutzy-ness, my head hit a door jamb after looking at something. I can feel the blood on my scalp from just this minor hit.

Also, ow.

It's cool. I don't blame you for being frustrated with Zimmerman and Zimmerman Sr both, the latter has made it impossible for me to sympathize with his son. I didn't before but he makes it impossible when he goes on Hannity and attacks the president the way he did.

135 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:19:06pm

Bringing up the president in this is just a non-sequitur

136 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:19:12pm

re: #124 carlaschluge

If he's charged, he'll turn himself in.

I'd take that bet!

137 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:19:26pm

re: #124 carlaschluge

If he's charged, he'll turn himself in.

Maybe he will, but with the erratic, head-scratching behavior Zimmerman's displayed, especially lately, the odds of him taking his medicine is getting slimmer every passing day.

138 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:19:37pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I just got angry about it. The letter I was mentioning was sent by a sibling of Zimmerman.

Also, I imagine it will be awhile before bleeding stops on my head right? There also seems to be a headache a few inches ahead of the point of collision.

139 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:20:27pm

Newt losing Pizzaman.

140 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:20:45pm

re: #138 ProGunLiberal

I just got angry about it. The letter I was mentioning was sent by a sibling of Zimmerman.

Also, I imagine it will be awhile before bleeding stops on my head right? There also seems to be a headache a few inches ahead of the point of collision.

Yeah I understand. Believe me, when I heard about the Sandusky case, I wanted to go to Happy Valley and kick his ass as I have a brother the same age as those victims. Not sure about your head. Imagine the best thing to do would be to rest.

141 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:20:49pm

zimmerman attorneys withdraw
dow plunges
santorum suspends

busy tuesday

142 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:21:24pm

Has this been confirmed?

They said he was "very far away" during the press conference.

He may already be out of the country.

143 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:21:32pm

re: #137 talon_262

Maybe he will, but with the erratic, head-scratching behavior Zimmerman's displayed, especially lately, the odds of him taking his medicine is getting slimmer every passing day.

Indeed. Considering his actions up to date, I'm beginning to worry he feels boxed in and would view charges as the hammer being brought down. Really, it's shocking that his lawyers don't seem to have done more to ensure he's not a danger to himself.

144 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:22:13pm

re: #139 William of Orange

Newt losing Pizzaman.

Newt's a lost cause. Besides maybe Herman is banking that Romney considers him for a cabinet post. Treasury Secretary Cain, yikes or worst his choice, Defense which would be a disaster and that's being kind.

145 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:22:37pm

re: #141 engineer cat

What caused the DOW to drop?

146 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:23:53pm

re: #145 ProGunLiberal

What caused the DOW to drop?

I heard europe, or just an over due correction.

147 blueraven  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:23:57pm

re: #142 ProGunLiberal

Has this been confirmed?

He may already be out of the country.

That's what they said. I was watching

"You can stop looking for him in Florida. Look much further than that."

148 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:23:58pm

re: #145 ProGunLiberal

What caused the DOW to drop?

Apparently, a combo of continuing economic instability in Europe and poor/flat earnings here in the US.

149 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:24:03pm

re: #145 ProGunLiberal

What caused the DOW to drop?

according to msnbc:

Wall Street stocks suffered their worst five-day stretch in nearly five months on Tuesday, stung by worries about slowing U.S. job growth, and oil prices slid more than 1 percent on worries about weakening demand from China.

Signs of a cooling U.S. recovery after Friday's release of disappointing data on jobs creation in March and the euro zone's festering debt crisis fueled a view of tepid global growth, stoking safety bids for gold as well as U.S. and German government debt.

"The bad news on employment brought about more doubt about the global recovery and how vulnerable we are to the double-dip (recession)," said William Larkin, fixed income portfolio manager at Cabot Money Management in Salem, Massachusetts.

but these are always no more than informed guesses...

150 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:24:20pm

re: #138 ProGunLiberal

I just got angry about it. The letter I was mentioning was sent by a sibling of Zimmerman.

Also, I imagine it will be awhile before bleeding stops on my head right? There also seems to be a headache a few inches ahead of the point of collision.

Put an ice pack on it and rest. Try not to sleep so you can tell if it gets worse.

151 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:24:40pm

re: #149 engineer cat

according to msnbc:

Wall Street stocks suffered their worst five-day stretch in nearly five months on Tuesday, stung by worries about slowing U.S. job growth, and oil prices slid more than 1 percent on worries about weakening demand from China.

Signs of a cooling U.S. recovery after Friday's release of disappointing data on jobs creation in March and the euro zone's festering debt crisis fueled a view of tepid global growth, stoking safety bids for gold as well as U.S. and German government debt.

"The bad news on employment brought about more doubt about the global recovery and how vulnerable we are to the double-dip (recession)," said William Larkin, fixed income portfolio manager at Cabot Money Management in Salem, Massachusetts.

but these are always no more than informed guesses...

Word for word what I said. //

152 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:24:53pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

Apparently, a combo of continuing economic instability in Europe and poor/flat earnings here in the US.

Aaand that's why all bets are off on the election results.

153 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:25:21pm

re: #145 ProGunLiberal

What caused the DOW to drop?

BusinessInsider said it was an expected correction (this was said yesterday). FWIW. I'm on my iPad or I'd search for a link.

154 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:25:28pm

re: #152 Johnny Derp

Aaand that's why all bets are off on the election results.

Indeed, I'm not taking November for granted, even with today's higher polls for Obama.

155 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:25:51pm

stock traders are such an emotional bunch

156 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:27:29pm

re: #155 engineer cat

You said it. Wasn't there a really big one day plunge in the 80's that ended up fixing itself or something? Black Tuesday?

157 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:27:38pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

Indeed, I'm not taking November for granted, even with today's higher polls for Obama.

Indeed, I read a story today that had voters preferring Romney to Obama on economic matters. Don't know why Romney gets the benefit of the doubt. Businessman doesn't always mean fiscally prudent but they get that BoD more often than not.

158 carlaschluge  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:27:55pm

Romney has a problem with the male voters, too.

Obama leads, 48%-35%, among women overall and a whopping 56%-25% among single women.

But Democrats have traditionally had an edge with the female vote. More striking is the fact that Obama narrowly leads Romney, 44%-42%, among men. Romney led this group, 47%-42%, in March, but Obama led, 45%-43%, in February, suggesting that Romney is vulnerable among male voters.

[Link: news.investors.com...]

159 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:29:12pm

re: #142 ProGunLiberal

The odd thing about that survey is that it also had a majority saying Obama was better for the middle class, better for jobs, better for small businesses and better, even, on taxes. What exactly do they think the economy is, then?

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:29:30pm

re: #158 carlaschluge

Romney has a problem with the male voters, too.

[Link: news.investors.com...]

Will you vote for Romney?

161 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:29:31pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Not to mention the "Business" Romney had was little more than the financial equivalent of a ship scrapyard, if I understand correctly.

Not to mention his little things like him saying he likes firing people.

162 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:29:46pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

Indeed, I'm not taking November for granted, even with today's higher polls for Obama.

I know it's smart to be cautiously optimistic, but I can't see people on the right getting excited to vote for Romney... Many will stay home.

163 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:29:57pm

re: #156 ProGunLiberal

You said it. Wasn't there a really big one day plunge in the 80's that ended up fixing itself or something? Black Tuesday?

Black Monday, back in '87.

164 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:30:01pm

The price of gasoline is the speed governor on economic recovery. $4 gas means people cut back spending elsewhere. A lot of that has been driven by speculation about military action against Iran that would disrupt oil supplies, but I also think as the economy recovered, demand for gasoline went up as well.

Now the amount of oil stockpiled in the US is the most in 20+ years, so the price will come down because they are running out of tanks to store it in.

165 Obdicut  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:30:53pm

re: #164 Mich-again

I've got an empty cistern they can use out in Connecticut.

166 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:31:03pm

re: #156 ProGunLiberal

You said it. Wasn't there a really big one day plunge in the 80's that ended up fixing itself or something? Black Tuesday?

there's an old joke that the stock market has predicted 8 of the last 4 recessions

167 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:31:21pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Newt's a lost cause. Besides maybe Herman is banking that Romney considers him for a cabinet post. Treasury Secretary Cain, yikes.

The strange thing is though, Ron Paul vows to stay in the race. I'm curious what a bounce back he'll make now that the most extreme right candidate has bailed ship. There are bound to be masses of people who hate Romney so much, they'll vote for Paul.

Could be interesting. The longer they drag this clown car on, the better it is for Obama.

168 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:31:31pm

re: #164 Mich-again

The price of gasoline is the speed governor on economic recovery. $4 gas means people cut back spending elsewhere. A lot of that has been driven by speculation about military action against Iran that would disrupt oil supplies, but I also think as the economy recovered, demand for gasoline went up as well.

Now the amount of oil stockpiled in the US is the most in 20+ years, so the price will come down because they are running out of tanks to store it in.

Was reading a story the other day that natural gas prices are set to crash through the floor later this year, as all the storage facilities are reaching max capacity.

169 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:32:02pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

That's what I was thinking of. Marketors (?) are a very panicky bunch, and prove the thing I heard which more or less said "Persons are smart, people are dumb panicky animals"

For some reason, we (humans) lose intelligence when in groups.

170 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:32:05pm

re: #161 ProGunLiberal

Not to mention the "Business" Romney had was little more than the financial equivalent of a ship scrapyard, if I understand correctly.

Not to mention his little things like him saying he likes firing people.

Right. I mean this isn't a Steve Jobs who came up with an innovative idea. His job at Bain wasn't that of a job creator. And yeah the saying he likes to fire people makes him look like a bigger jerk than he already is. I mean I understand bosses have to fire people, I'm not naive but to say you like doing so makes you look like a heartless prick.

171 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:32:37pm

re: #162 Major Tom

I know it's smart to be cautiously optimistic, but I can't see people on the right getting excited to vote for Romney... Many will stay home.

Way I see it, there's plenty of time between now and November for damn near anything to crop up, including the infamous "October Surprise." If the economy turns sour, that gives Romney a decisive edge, as it did Obama back in '08.

172 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:32:43pm

Now that Santorum is out, does Gingrich get donations to his campaign? Maybe he's staying in just long enough to pay some bills.

173 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:32:43pm

re: #142 ProGunLiberal

He may already be out of the country.

The attorneys said he was in the country at the same time as they said he was very far away.

174 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:32:59pm

Oh man I just totally wasted a couple of minutes watching a video someone tweeted, put together by Pat Dullard, comparing M. J. Rosenberg to white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Thing is, if they had just showed you the statements without telling you immediately where they came from, it's really not hard to tell them apart. Rosenberg's "Israel Firster" stuff is offensive, no doubt about that, but it's nowhere near as outright antisemitic as the neo-Nazi/Stormfront quotes they dug up.

I should have known in advance, but once it started it had a train wreck fascination thing going on. Remind me never to watch anything from that cretin again.

175 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:33:56pm

re: #171 Targetpractice

Way I see it, there's plenty of time between now and November for damn near anything to crop up, including the infamous "October Surprise." If the economy turns sour, that gives Romney a decisive edge, as it did Obama back in '08.

The only surprise would be some actual connecting with people on a broad base. Considering Romney, that would be a surprise, indeed.

176 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:34:17pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

I don't even know why the idjits still do it. He's no longer with MM, so it's kinda pointless.

177 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:35:45pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

No.

Bluntly, it was that of a job destroyer.

re: #173 neilk

Wonder what their definition of "far away" is. He could be in Puerto Rico. Close to the Non-Extradition Islands.

178 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:36:30pm

re: #175 Major Tom

The only surprise would be some actual connecting with people on a broad base. Considering Romney, that would be a surprise, indeed.

If folks are convinced that Obama's policies are killing/stalling the recovery and that the vintage 1980 "supply side" snake oil that the GOP is selling will fix things, then Romney's inability to emote will be less of a campaign issue.

179 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:37:53pm

re: #167 William of Orange

RP has a batch of rabid supporters. I've been wondering about Romney selecting Paul as veep.

180 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:38:11pm

re: #177 ProGunLiberal

No.

Bluntly, it was that of a job destroyer.

re: #173 neilk

Wonder what their definition of "far away" is. He could be in Puerto Rico. Close to the Non-Extradition Islands.

How come everyone knows where the non-extradition islands and countries are is this common knowledge? I don't watch enough crime dramas I guess...

181 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:38:28pm

re: #177 ProGunLiberal

No.

Bluntly, it was that of a job destroyer.

re: #173 neilk

Wonder what their definition of "far away" is. He could be in Puerto Rico. Close to the Non-Extradition Islands.

Yeah seems he destroyed more jobs than created at Bain and he made a lot of money doing it. That's not the guy I want in charge of economic policy for my country. I don't think Mitt is a stupid man but I think he's very out of touch with the American people in more ways than one.

182 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:39:15pm

re: #179 JustJay

RP has a batch of rabid supporters. I've been wondering about Romney selecting Paul as veep.

Nah Romney won't select Paul as veep. He's desperate but not that desperate, I don't think so at least.

183 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:39:24pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

So, Wikipedia says Europe is to blame for this little slide.

Two thoughts: One, we need stimulus independent of the World Economy.

Two: Germany needs to stop doing what it has been doing since the introduction of the Euro, and make some actual sacrifices. Greece was crooked, but Germany is barely any better.

184 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:40:12pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

If folks are convinced that Obama's policies are killing/stalling the recovery and that the vintage 1980 "supply side" snake oil that the GOP is selling will fix things, then Romney's inability to emote will be less of a campaign issue.

Call me crazy, but I'm not that cynical. You would have to be blind not to see that the GOPs proposals in almost every policy area is bankrupt. I think most people will do the right thing.

185 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:40:29pm

Sheriff Arpaio may be starting to feel a little cornered: Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Top Lawyer Disbarred, Facing Criminal Charges.

186 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:40:31pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

That's one thing Obama needs to point out, as well as the fact that Massachusetts under Romney performed miserably.

187 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:40:36pm

re: #173 neilk

The attorneys said he was in the country at the same time as they said he was very far away.

If there's truth in half if the stuff being written (yeah, I know), I'm betting on ID or MT where like-minded individuals can "protect" him.

188 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:41:05pm

re: #184 Major Tom

True. But I think they will need some persuasion.

189 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:41:07pm

re: #158 carlaschluge

Romney has a problem with the male voters, too.

[Link: news.investors.com...]

Researchers Predict By 2018 It May Be Possible To Construct A Worse Nominee Than Romney

al gore public speaking genes one possibility

191 jaunte  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:41:41pm

I Have Solved the Curious Case of Mark Judge’s Missing Bike

192 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:41:52pm

re: #190 Kragar

WOW!!!!

I didn't think this could get more stupid. I was wrong.

193 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:42:39pm

re: #190 Kragar

Zimmerman Family Member Claims Eric Holder Is Shielding New Black Panthers Because Holder Is Black

What I said about not sympathizing with Zimmerman again.

194 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:43:15pm

re: #188 ProGunLiberal

True. But I think they will need some persuasion.

Just let Romney talk. [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...] Race Horses. He knows. He's just like us!

The 99%ers will do the rest.

195 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:43:36pm

re: #189 engineer cat

Researchers Predict By 2018 It May Be Possible To Construct A Worse Nominee Than Romney

al gore public speaking genes one possibility

Give him John Edwards' personal morals. Romney to his credit is at least a stand up guy with his wife.

196 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:43:50pm

re: #184 Major Tom

Call me crazy, but I'm not that cynical. You would have to be blind not to see that the GOPs proposals in almost every policy area is bankrupt. I think most people will do the right thing.

As PLL quoted above, a person is smart, while people are dumb, panicky animals. And if gas prices continue to rise or the economy tanks, then those folks are gonna panic and they're gonna want "change."

197 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:43:55pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Nah Romney won't select Paul as veep. He's desperate but not that desperate, I don't think so at least.

That was my initial thought, too. But Romney wants more than ANYTHING to add Pres to his Rez. Would he pick Paul? I guess we'll see how desperate he is. His spending mega millions of his own cashola could smack of that kind of desperation.

198 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:43:59pm

Here is a great resource for current news and trends in the oil market. US Energy Information Administration: This Week in Petroleum

Interesting bit of information I had not seen before about trade protectionism in the domestic shipping industry that limits the number of ships that can transport products between American ports. There is an overcapacity of refineries in the Gulf States, but its not that easy transporting gasoline and diesel to other markets where there isn't.

Because this route would involve vessel movements between U.S. ports, Jones Act vessels must be used. The Jones Act requires goods or passengers moved in U.S. coastal waters between U.S. ports to be carried on U.S. flagged ships that are constructed in the United States, and owned and crewed by U.S. citizens.

EIA's report mentioned 56 Jones Act tankers handling petroleum, including tankers being decommissioned.

I'm sure the backers of the Jone's Act spoke of protecting American jobs, but if those restrictions increase the prices of gasoline, you have to wonder how many jobs it actually saves.

199 SpaceJesus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:45:29pm

Actual location of the Simpson's Springfield has been announced

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

200 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:46:27pm

re: #199 SpaceJesus

Actual location of the Simpson's Springfield has been announced

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

It makes sense given Springfield has a lot of references to Groening's hometown of Portland.

201 aagcobb  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:46:44pm

re: #184 Major Tom

Call me crazy, but I'm not that cynical. You would have to be blind not to see that the GOPs proposals in almost every policy area is bankrupt. I think most people will do the right thing.

RCP's electoral college map now has the President with 280 electoral votes. Of course that could change if the economy slumps, but I think that is the only thing to worry about at this point.

202 SpaceJesus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:46:59pm

Also Zimmerman's lawyers are lucky or smart

203 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:47:05pm

re: #199 SpaceJesus

"Named after", not "equals to" though.

204 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:47:05pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Oh man I just totally wasted a couple of minutes watching a video someone tweeted, put together by Pat Dullard, comparing M. J. Rosenberg to white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Thing is, if they had just showed you the statements without telling you immediately where they came from, it's really not hard to tell them apart. Rosenberg's "Israel Firster" stuff is offensive, no doubt about that, but it's nowhere near as outright antisemitic as the neo-Nazi/Stormfront quotes they dug up.

I should have known in advance, but once it started it had a train wreck fascination thing going on. Remind me never to watch anything from that cretin again.

OFFS.

MJ Rosenberg is a lame little dweeb. Why wingnuts get their panties in a bunch over MJ is giving the little twerp way more credit than he deserves.

205 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:47:37pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Was reading a story the other day that natural gas prices are set to crash through the floor later this year, as all the storage facilities are reaching max capacity.

Will by this fall; word is that a lot of gas wells will be either cut back on production or permanently capped.

206 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:47:58pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

As PLL quoted above, a person is smart, while people are dumb, panicky animals. And if gas prices continue to rise or the economy tanks, then those folks are gonna panic and they're gonna want "change."

Perhaps. It's not impossible. I find it hard to refute any of what you say there... Barring 5-6 bucks a gallon, I think he will clean Romney's electoral clock.

207 darthstar  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:48:04pm

You can't defend what you can't see. I think an APB for Zimmerman might just be in order at this time.

And I said yesterday...Zimmerman has(now had) some really fucking shitty lawyers.

208 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:48:16pm

re: #191 jaunte

I Have Solved the Curious Case of Mark Judge’s Missing Bike

I figured you were going to show us this picture.. Coincidink? I think not..

209 SpaceJesus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:48:24pm

re: #203 Johnny Derp

you mean the people of springfield oregon aren't actually cartoons??

210 carlaschluge  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:48:45pm

WTF?!

[Link: www.theblaze.com...]

211 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:49:32pm

re: #210 carlaschluge

WTF?!

[Link: www.theblaze.com...]

Lemme sum up:
Please make me relevant again!!! please!!!

212 darthstar  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:49:36pm

re: #206 Major Tom

Perhaps. It's not impossible. I find it hard to refute any of what you say there... Barring 5-6 bucks a gallon, I think he will clean Romney's electoral clock.

The president doesn't control gas prices. 5-6 bucks a gallon will piss off people, yes, and the retards will vote for Romney because of it, and his buddies in the oil companies will be happy to see gas go to 7 bucks a gallon because they'll be able to blame Obama for the next four years.

213 Kragar  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:50:19pm

George Zimmerman Is Apparently Talking To Sean Hannity But Not His Own Attorneys

One of the most intriguing claims the attorneys made was that at some point recently, Zimmerman put in a call to Hannity, the Fox News host who aired an exclusive interview with the man’s father last month. Attorney Hal Uhrig sounded particularly unnerved about the lack of information he and his colleague were getting about the call.

“We learned that he had called Sean Hannity of Fox News directly, and not through us,” Uhrig said. “And we believe — I can’t confirm this — we believe that he spoke directly with Sean, off the record.”

Presumably speaking about Hannity, he added: “He’s not even willing to tell us what our client told him.”

Neither Hannity nor a representative of Fox News returned TPM’s requests for comment.

214 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:50:31pm

re: #209 SpaceJesus

No, I mean there is no indication that this animated Springfield is in Oregon according to the "facts of The Simpsons universe". Only that it was named after Springfield, Oregon.

215 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:51:03pm

re: #212 darthstar

The president doesn't control gas prices. 5-6 bucks a gallon will piss off people, yes, and the retards will vote for Romney because of it, and his buddies in the oil companies will be happy to see gas go to 7 bucks a gallon because they'll be able to blame Obama for the next four years.

Oh I know, I was just agreeing with Targetpractice that people, as a society, could overlook those facts in the heat of the moment.

216 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:52:18pm

re: #206 Major Tom

Perhaps. It's not impossible. I find it hard to refute any of what you say there... Barring 5-6 bucks a gallon, I think he will clean Romney's electoral clock.

It can't go that high without a huge shock to the economy which would kill demand and drop the price. disclaimer if there is massive inflation, but that's not likely. The large stock market corrections take care of that.

217 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:53:14pm

re: #213 Kragar

George Zimmerman Is Apparently Talking To Sean Hannity But Not His Own Attorneys

Does Zimmerman realize that talking with Hannity makes him look worse not better? I mean it's not like Sean Hannity is some respectable and even-healed journalist. He's a protege of Rush Limbaugh.

218 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:53:31pm

re: #216 Mich-again

It can't go that high without a huge shock to the economy which would kill demand and drop the price. disclaimer if there is massive inflation, but that's not likely. The large stock market corrections take care of that.

Iran is a wild card. Another protracted war will choke world supply.

219 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:53:43pm

re: #206 Major Tom

Perhaps. It's not impossible. I find it hard to refute any of what you say there... Barring 5-6 bucks a gallon, I think he will clean Romney's electoral clock.

I went ahead and plugged the states from the RCP map aggcobb posted a link to into the 270towin map, then went ahead and turned all the "up-for-grabs" states as blue. If Obama takes them in a clean sweep, which I don't believe will be the case but is always plausible, then Romney's in for one hell of a bad night Election Day.

It's a serious amount of ground that Romney has to make up between now and November. I'm not entirely sure he can do it, but I've come to realize that nothing is certain this early in an election.

220 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:54:04pm

re: #198 Mich-again

Selective suspension of the Jones Act?

221 Joanne  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:54:25pm

re: #210 carlaschluge

WTF?!

[Link: www.theblaze.com...]

That's sum weird shit right there.

222 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:54:46pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

I went ahead and plugged the states from the RCP map aggcobb posted a link to into the 270towin map, then went ahead and turned all the "up-for-grabs" states as blue. If Obama takes them in a clean sweep, which I don't believe will be the case but is always plausible, then Romney's in for one hell of a bad night Election Day.

It's a serious amount of ground that Romney has to make up between now and November. I'm not entirely sure he can do it, but I've come to realize that nothing is certain this early in an election.

I know the site, and too have done the math. Its not a squeeker.

223 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:55:04pm

re: #204 Learned Mother of Zion

OFFS.

MJ Rosenberg is a lame little dweeb. Why wingnuts get their panties in a bunch over MJ is giving the little twerp way more credit than he deserves.

I just checked up on him. It seems that leaving Media Matters didn't change much anyways. TPM is still posting his articles. He's still retweeting Mondowiess crap and it seems he's been publishing stuff on Al Jazeera. Same as it ever was.

224 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:55:22pm

re: #218 Major Tom

Iran seems to be smashing itself in the face with its various actions.

Everyone should back away, and let those radical mullahs there hang themselves. Attacking would hurt us in the medium to long run.

225 aagcobb  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:57:27pm

re: #224 ProGunLiberal

Iran seems to be smashing itself in the face with its various actions.

Everyone should back away, and let those radical mullahs there hang themselves. Attacking would hurt us in the medium to long run.

The big question is how close are they to having the bomb?

226 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:57:36pm

re: #220 ProGunLiberal

Selective suspension of the Jones Act?

The dumb thing is, if you want to put up tariffs to save domestic jobs, it might make some sense to do it at the top of the product food chain, but never at the raw material end. Example, the huge tariffs on sugar into America just hurt domestic candy makers. Same for shipping refined oil from one region to another.

227 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:57:42pm

re: #224 ProGunLiberal

Iran seems to be smashing itself in the face with its various actions.

Everyone should back away, and let those radical mullahs there hang themselves. Attacking would hurt us in the medium to long run.

I don't have enough information to make an informed decision about Iran. I really see it from every side right now. I'm torn.

228 neilk  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:58:05pm

re: #225 aagcobb

They are far.

229 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 3:59:25pm

re: #225 aagcobb

Point. However, I don't think they are close enough considering the fact they are now trying to become North Korea. The people in Iran are relatively well-connected to the outside world. Trying to wall it off will cause trouble.

230 Major Tom  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:00:21pm

re: #229 ProGunLiberal

Point. However, I don't think they are close enough considering the fact they are now trying to become North Korea. The people in Iran are relatively well-connected to the outside world. Trying to wall it off will cause trouble.

Aspiring to be North Korea... Talk about low hanging fruit...

231 aagcobb  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:00:49pm

re: #228 neilk

They are far.

If the Israelis believe that, then we should be good, if its true. I just don't know, and given the dismal performance of our Intelligence Services concerning Iraq's WMD program, I don't trust them to know either.

232 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:02:46pm

re: #220 ProGunLiberal

The Jones Act goes back to 1920 and was intended for National Security reasons. But now it increases shipping costs and makes it economically unfeasible to move gasoline from where we have excess refineries to other regions. It probably made good sense in 1920, but I am guessing it does way more harm than good to the US economy in 2012.

233 blueraven  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:03:51pm

. re: #212 darthstar

The president doesn't control gas prices. 5-6 bucks a gallon will piss off people, yes, and the retards will vote for Romney because of it, and his buddies in the oil companies will be happy to see gas go to 7 bucks a gallon because they'll be able to blame Obama for the next four years.

Crude oil prices have fallen quite a bit over the last week or so. Now, when and if that will be reflected at the pump is another question. But it has gone from average of $106/107 ppb down to about $102 or lower.

Summer of 2008 high price was $145.29
[Link: www.nyse.tv...]

234 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:04:13pm

re: #230 Major Tom

They are literally trying to kill the internet in their nation, and create a "wholesome" nation-wide intranet.

This is for a country with 15-20% Unemployment, 10%+ Inflation, Sky High Gas Prices (No Refineries), and continued political instability and election fraud. That can't act like this for much longer without something happening.

235 Gus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:08:35pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Oh man I just totally wasted a couple of minutes watching a video someone tweeted, put together by Pat Dullard, comparing M. J. Rosenberg to white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Thing is, if they had just showed you the statements without telling you immediately where they came from, it's really not hard to tell them apart. Rosenberg's "Israel Firster" stuff is offensive, no doubt about that, but it's nowhere near as outright antisemitic as the neo-Nazi/Stormfront quotes they dug up.

I should have known in advance, but once it started it had a train wreck fascination thing going on. Remind me never to watch anything from that cretin again.

Rosenberg aside Pat Dollard is an ignorant, foul mouthed, junkie with one of the worst psycho-conspiracy-wingnut websites on the internet. I know there's a lot of tough competition for that title. The only reason I would watch his garbage would be on an anthropological level to study primitive behavior in abhorrent men.

236 Gus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:11:05pm

And another thing. As far as being destructive to American society, Pat Dollard wins first prize in that department and is miles ahead of MJ Rosenberg.

238 Gus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:15:56pm

re: #237 Johnny Derp

Photo on Dollard's fp:

Image: Trayvon17-Zimmerman_20120328161042_640_480-640x380.jpg

I'm so tired of these 911 anti-Jihad chickenhawk fakers from the 00s. Wish I never set eyes on them.

239 Gus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:18:53pm

re: #237 Johnny Derp

Photo on Dollard's fp:

Image: Trayvon17-Zimmerman_20120328161042_640_480-640x380.jpg

Oh. Reading the comment you left earlier. The importance of someone "bad mouthing" you is relative to the person doing the "bad mouthing." Ergo, if some l-o-s-e-r is doing the bad mouthing it's about as important as a grasshopper smashing into your windshield while driving down the road. Splat!

240 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:42:19pm

re: #235 Gus

Rosenberg aside, Pat Dollard is an ignorant, foul mouthed, junkie with one of the worst psycho-conspiracy-wingnut websites on the internet. I know there's a lot of tough competition for that title. The only reason I would watch his garbage would be on an anthropological level to study primitive behavior in abhorrent men.

Maybe I'm a might slow, but when did Dollard go full wingnut?

241 Gus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:43:49pm

re: #240 talon_262

Maybe I'm a might slow, but when did Dollard go full wingnut?

He likely always a wingnut. But before Obama took office all we were talking about was war this and war that. So we ignored or set aside the other issues. He, like all the rest of them, went full-metal wingnut soon after Obama won and quickly showed their true colors.

242 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:47:32pm

re: #241 Gus

He likely always a wingnut. But before Obama took office all we were talking about was war this and war that. So we ignored or set aside the other issues. He, like all the rest of them, went full-metal wingnut soon after Obama won and quickly showed their true colors.

That's what I figured; the last I'd heard about him was in regards to Young Americans...a long, long, long time ago.

243 Gus  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 4:51:43pm

re: #242 talon_262

That's what I figured; the last I'd heard about him was in regards to Young Americans...a long, long, long time ago.

Oh. Going way back? I didn't even know about him. He went nuts like a lot of people because of 9/11. I'm sure when he went through that stage he turned off a lot of his friends who were likely liberals given his field. That kind of happened to me too. So, I'm sure he found a lot of rejection much like Breitbart from the film community. This of course translates into typical rejection behavior. Sort of like bad divorces or break-ups. So now he's still "getting back at his old friends" which slammed the door on his face during the "war years."

244 Decider  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 5:03:21pm

Not sure if this was posted. Good stuff here from a Fox News employee who has gone rogue.

[Link: gawker.com...]

I work at Fox News Channel.

The Fox Nation moderators, realizing that they had a problem on their hands, did the absolute bare minimum, hiring one or two college kids to comb the comments for the most egregiously racist postings, and putting in automatic text filters that blocked various key words. Of course the intrepid commenters quickly found ways around these filters using letter substitutions and spacings, which is why many comments complain about our "n@gger president" and the "M u s l i m in the White House."

So the site has become the seedy underbelly of the Fox News online empire. It's surprising that we even have an online empire, considering that our fan base is mostly septuagenarian technophobes.

245 Hawaii69  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 6:34:02pm

And this deserves a press conferece....why?

They couldn't have called the D.A.'s office and told them this?
Are these lawyers just unprofessional, or seeking attention?

246 labman57  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 6:35:55pm

Zimmerman appears to be less concerned about attaining legal representation for a forthcoming criminal defense than he is about attaining an agent to negotiate a contract with News Corp.

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 7:10:22pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

It's cool. I don't blame you for being frustrated with Zimmerman and Zimmerman Sr both, the latter has made it impossible for me to sympathize with his son. I didn't before but he makes it impossible when he goes on Hannity and attacks the president the way he did.

I didn't sympathize with Zimmerman before, but I didn't think of him as a villain, either. My assumption was that he did a string of stupid, dangerous things out of bravado and racial stereotyping, provoked a conflict and shot his way out of it. That's not a good guy, but not necessarily a real evil guy, either.

Now, though, he and his father are acting like Froot Loops, and I can't figure out WHAT the hell happened.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 7:14:36pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

What I said about not sympathizing with Zimmerman again.

I have to say that I am skeptical about this whole string of letters sent by a 'member of the Zimmerman family'. Possibly because no one in my family would be dumb enough to send long chatty whiny letters to various assorted people when one of us was facing charges.

At least not on my side. My in-laws, God knows.

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 7:15:24pm

re: #199 SpaceJesus

Actual location of the Simpson's Springfield has been announced

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

That's going to infuriate my husband. He's always said Kentucky.

250 Mickey Blumental  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 7:28:27pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

I didn't sympathize with Zimmerman before, but I didn't think of him as a villain, either. My assumption was that he did a string of stupid, dangerous things out of bravado and racial stereotyping, provoked a conflict and shot his way out of it. That's not a good guy, but not necessarily a real evil guy, either.

Now, though, he and his father are acting like Froot Loops, and I can't figure out WHAT the hell happened.

He initiated a conflict which he ended with murder based on racism and he's not a villain?

Derp much?

251 Mich-again  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 7:56:21pm

If those lawyers had said that they have lost contact with Zimmerman, than I might believe them. But they made it a point to say it over and over again, so I am going with my gut and calling BS on the whole statement.

I think they know where he is. And I think they know charges are coming but they don't want to be the ones to fess up and tell the authorities where he is.

252 sean6886politik  Tue, Apr 10, 2012 10:33:52pm

I have a couple of questions that I hope any of you can answer.

Does anyone know for sure if the New Black Panther Party actually put a bounty on GZ's head with wanted dead or alive posters? I've look and all I find are rightwing blogs and I don't trust them.

Also, does anyone know if the ABC video where they magnified GZ's head to show "scars" on the top of his had-has that video been discredited? Again, cannot find much and no one is talking about that clip.

Any links would be appreciated as well.

Thanks

253 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Apr 11, 2012 1:11:00am

re: #209 SpaceJesus

you mean the people of springfield oregon aren't actually cartoons??

Yeah the physics is all different for one thing.../

254 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Apr 11, 2012 1:14:03am

re: #213 Kragar

George Zimmerman Is Apparently Talking To Sean Hannity But Not His Own Attorneys

Spot the wingnut. 'Registered democrat'? LOL. Now where have we heard that one before?

Oh yeah, right here...


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