Stunning Telescopic Video of Yesterday’s Eclipse

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Still pictures will be available at http://www.corypoole.com

700 pictures through a Coronado Solar Max 60 Double Stack telescope were used to make this video. The Telescope has a very narrow bandpass allowing you to see the chromosphere and not the much brighter photosphere below it. The music was composed in Abelton Live.

(h/t: Dangerous Minds.)

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162 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:43:28am

OBAMA ANGERED THE SKY GODS!

2 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:45:54am

I love science.

I'm not very knowledgable, but I do love this stuff!

3 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:48:46am

Have never really experienced a solar eclipse. Last one here in Germany in 2000 was obscured by clouds.

4 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:50:28am

So it proves that global warming is a hoax.

5 Targetpractice  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:50:51am

Oh sure, rub it in the faces of us East Coast folks, why don't ya!

///

6 sattv4u2  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:50:57am

Thanks Charles

No view of it here in the east last night

:(

7 Daniel Ballard  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:51:36am

Charles-
Awesome post. I wonder where that telescope is. From the SW USA the moon covered from the lower right side moving left across the upper part of the sphere. I so wish I had had the filter I should have yesterday. But this is just beautiful. The guys at Mt Wilson might be jealous.

8 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 21, 2012 11:58:16am

re: #3 Expand Your Ground

Have never really experienced a solar eclipse. Last one here in Germany in 2000 was obscured by clouds.

I saw a full eclipse when I was a kid in India. They were really superstitious about it and the normally bustling streets of New Delhi were deserted. It was really eerie.

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:01:12pm

Saw a lunar eclipse, a partial one in which the moon turned blood-red...

Then we burned a local witch and it passed.

/

10 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:02:04pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

I saw a full eclipse when I was a kid in India. They were really superstitious about it and the normally bustling streets of New Delhi were deserted. It was really eerie.

I remember there was a full eclipse when I was a kid. They prepared us in school with film strips, and PSA's and how to construct a pinhole box. Throughout the "training" we were warned DON'T LOOK AT THE ECLIPSE! YOU'LL GO BLIND!1!TY

I sneaked a peek at the eclipse. Maybe that's why I need bifocals today. :(

11 erik_t  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:02:39pm

Sure beats the results from my Field Expedient Pinhole Tube Imager.

12 sattv4u2  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:02:52pm

re: #10 Learned Mother of Zion

I remember there was a full eclipse when I was a kid. They prepared us in school with film strips, and PSA's and how to construct a pinhole box. Throughout the "training" we were warned DON'T LOOK AT THE ECLIPSE! YOU'LL GO BLIND!1!TY

I sneaked a peek at the eclipse. Maybe that's why I need bifocals today. :(

1959? I recall them doing that with us in school also

13 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:04:15pm

re: #10 Learned Mother of Zion

I remember there was a full eclipse when I was a kid. They prepared us in school with film strips, and PSA's and how to construct a pinhole box. Throughout the "training" we were warned DON'T LOOK AT THE ECLIPSE! YOU'LL GO BLIND!1!TY

I sneaked a peek at the eclipse. Maybe that's why I need bifocals today. :(

aaaaaaaaaaaahhh! I always wanted to do that.

You very, very bad!

14 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:04:17pm

I celebrated the eclipse by staying inside all day and playing video games.

15 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:04:55pm

re: #13 ggt

aaahhh! I always wanted to do that.

You very, very bad!

You always wanted to need bifocals?

16 sattv4u2  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:05:18pm

re: #15 Kragar

You always wanted to need bifocals?

No,,, remember stuff!

17 dragonath  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:05:49pm

re: #1 Kragar

"Speak not to me of blasphemy, man. I'd strike the sun if it insulted me"

- Barry Soetoro Melville

18 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:06:40pm

re: #16 sattv4u2

No,,, remember stuff!

I keep forgetting to do that.

19 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:07:01pm

re: #16 sattv4u2

No,,, remember stuff!

That's what family and friend are for.

Nah, I can remember when I'm dead.

20 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:07:11pm

please take my name off google, thank you

21 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:07:37pm

This was just a warning. If we re-elect Obama, God will take the sun away permanently.

If we elect Romney, God will give us jobs.

Well, he'd better, 'cause Romney ain't gonna give us any...

22 sattv4u2  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:07:52pm

re: #18 Kragar

I keep forgetting to do that.

So do,,,,
huh?

23 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:08:44pm

Maybe it really can damage your eyes.

24 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:08:54pm

re: #22 sattv4u2

So do,,,
huh?

I on be the whole thing.

25 Targetpractice  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:08:56pm

re: #14 Kragar

I celebrated the eclipse by staying inside all day and playing video games.

And what was the game of the day?

26 Daniel Ballard  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:08:57pm

seeing the eclipse near sunset left me wondering in there was ever an eclipse at sunset, where the sun disappeared until sunrise. That might have terrified primitive man.

Or modern fundie Christians, heh. Sort of the old Against The Night story by Arthur Clarke.

27 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:09:38pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

And what was the game of the day?

Skyrim. At level 45, I finally decided to go check out that whole Dragon nonsense.

28 Targetpractice  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:10:59pm

re: #27 Kragar

Skyrim. At level 45, I finally decided to go check out that whole Dragon nonsense.

You mean those big ass SOBs that like to pop up practically every time I fast travel?

29 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:11:29pm

Paged this from my post last thread:

NC Pastor: Pen In 'All The Lesbians And Queers' With An Electrified Fence, Wait For Them To 'Die Out'

30 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:11:49pm

re: #27 Kragar

Skyrim. At level 45, I finally decided to go check out that whole Dragon nonsense.

end result

Youtube Video
31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:12:53pm

re: #29 Kragar


Wherefore art thou, Godwin

32 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:13:07pm

re: #23 Learned Mother of Zion

Maybe it really can damage your eyes.

Yeah, staring into the sun is never a good idea. Eclipses just make it easier to do it.

33 Targetpractice  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:13:13pm

re: #29 Kragar

Paged this from my post last thread:

NC Pastor: Pen In 'All The Lesbians And Queers' With An Electrified Fence, Wait For Them To 'Die Out'

Has he deemed this his "final solution"?

34 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:13:18pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

You mean those big ass SOBs that like to pop up practically every time I fast travel?

Yeah, it was really nice becoming the leader of the Dark Brotherhood, taking over the Riften thieves guild and leading the Stormcloak rebellion without having to worry about those stupid things showing up all the time.

35 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:13:20pm

Look Into The Sun

36 Kronocide  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:14:38pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Has he deemed this his "final solution"?

No, I'm sure he'll think of some other Solutions.

37 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:15:44pm

This is pretty neat. The spaces between the leaves acted as a pinhole camera. (ht reddit)
Image: bxnMC.jpg

38 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:15:57pm

re: #36 Kronocide

No, I'm sure he'll think of some other Solutions.

Next, those durn liberals, oh, and those bastards who don't drink sweet tea.

39 Targetpractice  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:17:09pm

re: #38 Kragar

Next, those durn liberals, ow, and those bastards who don't drink sweet tea.

Don't drink sweet tea?! Blasphemy!

//

40 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:17:24pm

re: #31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Wherefore art thou, Godwin

Already Godwined.

41 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:20:48pm

re: #40 Learned Mother of Zion

*dances in Godwin endzone*

42 Kronocide  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:21:13pm

STOP GODWINZ

43 lawhawk  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:22:44pm

re: #31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Stuck on Planet Wanasee.

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:23:12pm

re: #42 Kronocide

STOP GODWINZ

there should be a ragepastor world tour, collect all these freaks and send them around the country, seating in different sections for ironic internet rubberneckers and snake-handlers

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:24:03pm

LLLLLLLETS GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLEEE *pyros and fog machines* *doughy man in a blue suit rises out of the stage like Bon Jovi*

46 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:26:42pm

re: #44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Maybe we could round up all those hate-preaching pastors, priests and mullahs, and put them behind a barbed-wire fence. They would have access to cable TV broadcasting and be free to live on whatever donation money they could raise from outside.

47 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:27:50pm

re: #46 Expand Your Ground

Maybe we could round up all those hate-preaching pastors, priests and mullahs, and put them behind a barbed-wire fence. They would have access to cable TV broadcasting and be free to live on whatever donation money they could raise from outside.

A game show!

Call Stephen King!

48 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:28:31pm

re: #46 Expand Your Ground

Maybe we could round up all those hate-preaching pastors, priests and mullahs, and put them behind a barbed-wire fence. They would have access to cable TV broadcasting and be free to live on whatever donation money they could raise from outside.

From the Pastor's Page of his church's website:

We offer NO apologies in believing the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

Well, there is your problem right there.
/

49 lawhawk  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:33:36pm

re: #47 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Make 'em listen to NIN. Everything from Heresy and Sin to Corona Radiata and Sunspots (bringing the conversation back to Charles' original post).

Played to 11.

50 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:35:11pm

re: #48 Kragar

From the Pastor's Page of his church's website:

Well, there is your problem right there.
/

Leviticus 18:22. In an inerrant translation.

51 lawhawk  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:35:43pm

re: #46 Expand Your Ground

Hunger Games, but with middle aged privileged white guys. Maybe throw in a few guys whose job it is to hunt them down for sport (and ratings)... that sounds like the Running Man...

Either way, we could profit from the advertising. Budweiser would go ga ga. /George Carlin....

52 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:37:08pm

re: #44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

there should be a ragepastor world tour, collect all these freaks and send them around the country, seating in different sections for ironic internet rubberneckers and snake-handlers

'RagePast' 2012 - that's definitely got a ring to it.

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:38:22pm

re: #49 lawhawk

Make 'em listen to NIN. Everything from Heresy and Sin to Corona Radiata and Sunspots (bringing the conversation back to Charles' original post).

Played to 11.

All of Fixed :D

Youtube Video
54 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:41:07pm

Caption needed

55 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:42:43pm

re: #54 ggt

Caption needed

"They all look so good, but I know they'll go straight to my hips"

56 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:44:52pm

re: #54 ggt

Caption needed

Youtube Video
57 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:45:27pm

re: #54 ggt

Caption needed

I was thinking of some sort of predatory capitalist theme.

But I can't make it work. Something like They will breed and make me fat.

58 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:48:37pm

re: #56 Aye Pod

[Embedded content]

YOU FOOL! THOSE AREN'T REAL FISH!

59 sattv4u2  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:50:09pm

re: #54 ggt

Caption needed

"c'mon guys,,, lemme in,,, I'm a catfish ,,,really ,,, trust me,,,"

60 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:50:51pm

re: #54 ggt

Caption needed

"... strange creatures floated around Dr. Tillinghast ..."

61 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:54:48pm

re: #60 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

"... strange creatures floated around Dr. Tillinghast ..."

For some reason, the S&M scenes from the movie weren't in the book.

62 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:56:22pm

re: #54 ggt

Caption needed

"We need to talk..."

63 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:58:09pm

re: #61 Kragar

For some reason, the S&M scenes from the movie weren't in the book.

S&M scenes would fit the Return of the Living Dead 3, not this movie.

64 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:58:52pm

Satan suspended indefinitely

On Wednesday, God suspended Satan indefinitely from his role as Devil for promising demons as much as 10,000 dollars for each soul they lured into temptation. Satan’s two head assistants, a gargoyle named Thoth and former American President Ronald Reagan, received slightly lighter suspensions of up to 5000 years, but may be reinstated earlier if they successfully complete anger management classes.

In Satan’s absence, Venom frontman Cronos has been named Interim Dark Lord until Satan’s reinstatement. Cronos is a veteran of the dark arts having served in Satan’s Army since 1981. Cronos even had brief experience running Hell back in 1986 when Satan broke five of his legs in a terrible water skiing accident.

65 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:59:32pm

re: #63 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

S&M scenes would fit the Return of the Living Dead 3, not this movie.

Did you ever see the movie? From Beyond - 1986

66 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 12:59:53pm

"Yes, my precious minnow, flourish in your container ocean -you do not know the reality of the world. I will oversea your confinement and keep you ignorant. You will be happy and and blissful. I will be rich."

67 Lidane  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:00:14pm

Heh:

Hawaii's Now Asking Birthers to Prove Who They Are

68 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:00:49pm

re: #66 ggt

"Yes, my precious minnow, flourish in your container ocean -you do not know the reality of the world. I will oversea your confinement and keep you ignorant. You will be happy and and blissful. I will be rich."

Oh, so its Pat Robertson's cat.

69 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:01:07pm

Something happened to my notebook (after Vista updates?) and now I can't load LGF in any browser aside from Chrome, and in Chrome I can't login (am using another comp now). Weird. Pretty much sure not viruses.

70 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:01:26pm

re: #68 Kragar

Oh, so its Pat Robertson's cat.

Pat Robertson would be the Cat's human.

71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:01:39pm

re: #65 Kragar

Did you ever see the movie? From Beyond - 1986

Yes, we're talking about it. ;)

72 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:02:30pm

re: #67 Lidane

Heh:

Hawaii's Now Asking Birthers to Prove Who They Are

Gotta love the freedoms of the double-edged sword!

73 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:02:51pm

re: #71 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Yes, we're talking about it. ;)

You could have just read the story. Of course, the whole original story accounts for maybe the first 2 minutes of the movie.

74 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:04:19pm

re: #69 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Something happened to my notebook (after Vista updates?) and now I can't load LGF in any browser aside from Chrome, and in Chrome I can't login (am using another comp now). Weird. Pretty much sure not viruses.

Vista is a virus.

75 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:04:21pm

Just can't get into Lovecraft.

76 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:04:51pm

re: #73 Kragar

You could have just read the story. Of course, the whole original story accounts for maybe the first 2 minutes of the movie.

Yeah. But then I'd seen the movie long, long before I read the story ;)

77 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:05:11pm

re: #74 Learned Mother of Zion

Vista is a virus.

emphasis needed

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:05:57pm

re: #67 Lidane

"Mail us your passport, your driver's license and your car title to prove your identity"

79 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:06:26pm

re: #74 Learned Mother of Zion

Vista is a virus.

Vista is Windows 7 alpha :D

80 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:06:46pm

re: #78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

"Mail us your passport, your driver's license and your car title to prove your identity"

And your banking codes!

81 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:07:40pm

re: #76 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Yeah. But then I'd seen the movie long, long before I read the story ;)

I'm sorry.

82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:07:41pm

re: #75 ggt

Just can't get into Lovecraft.

I crept down the impossibly long chasm-like unknowable corridors filled with nameless gibbering from aeons beyond aeons, and the shivering of thousands of unknowable parasites to reach the bookshelf where I selected a Lovecraft tome of unknown and unknowable provenance

83 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:08:32pm

re: #75 ggt

Just can't get into Lovecraft.

Its okay to admit that you're just a bad person at heart and to move along.
///

84 Sionainn  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:08:36pm

My husband's photo of the eclipse taken in Las Vegas, Nevada.

85 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:09:26pm

re: #84 Sionainn

My husband's photo of the eclipse taken in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Great, now the Sun is Muslim. I blame Obama.

86 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:09:32pm

re: #83 Kragar

Its okay to admit that you're just a bad person at heart and to move along.
///

Yeah, I plan on enjoying hell.

87 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:09:41pm

Early 90s Russian cable TV, gotta love it. Of course we had no concept of "B movies" and thought that what we were watching was some bona fide stuff.

But then, I don't mind knowing that I watched Peter Jackson's early splatter flicks as well as Troll 2 before knowing they were supposed to be cult classics.

88 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:10:37pm

re: #84 Sionainn

My husband's photo of the eclipse taken in Las Vegas, Nevada.

That's really cool looking.

89 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:11:18pm

Which came first:

Matter or Energy?

90 Lidane  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:11:55pm

re: #78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

"Mail us your passport, your driver's license and your car title to prove your identity"

If Hawaii is smart, they'll do a version of the Nigerian prince scam, but instead of money, they'll offer notarized, registered copies of Obama's long-form birth certificate. They'll make millions off the rubes and dupes.

91 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:12:05pm

re: #89 ggt

Which came first:

Matter or Energy?

HA! Matter is energy!

92 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:13:25pm

re: #90 Lidane

If Hawaii is smart, they'll do a version of the Nigerian prince scam, but instead offer notarized, registered copies of Obama's long-form birth certificate instead. They'll make millions off the rubes and dupes.

Make them take delivery in person :D

"Our offices are located at the summit of Haleakala"

93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:15:56pm

re: #89 ggt

Which came first:

Matter or Energy?

Does it matter?/

94 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:16:26pm

re: #91 Kragar

HA! Matter is energy!

Or is Energy matter?

95 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:16:44pm

David Barton is straight out making shit up again

Last week we wrote another post in our on-going series highlighting social and governmental institutional that David Barton claims came directly out of the Bible. And today we found a presentation that Barton delivered last month where he once again made all of these now standard claims, but this time with the additional claim that the Constitution's provision regarding treason "is a verbatim quote out of Ezekiel 18:20":

96 Lidane  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:17:38pm

re: #92 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

Make them take delivery in person :D

"Our offices are located at the summit of Haleakala"

Haha. That would be amazing.

97 dragonfire1981  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:17:59pm

Notre Dame sues Obama administration over Health care reform

On Monday, the University of Notre Dame filed suit against the Obama administration over its rule that all employers must offer contraception in their insurance plans. Notre Dame is now the seventh religious college to sue over the mandate; it's also the largest school to do so.

President Barack Obama gave the commencement address at the prominent Catholic university in 2009.

In its suit, the school says that health care reform's contraception mandate violates its religious freedom and would require it to go against Catholic principles by offering contraception and sterilization to students and faculty in its insurance plan. The university serves 11,500 students of different religious faiths, and is traditionally led by a Catholic priest as president.

The Obama administration announced in February that religious organizations such as schools and hospitals would not directly have to offer birth control to their employees. Instead, the insurance company would contact women covered by its plan and offer the contraception. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and other religious organizations objected to this, saying that the organizations' premiums would still be helping to pay for the contraception in that scenario. In its suit, the University of Notre Dame says it is self-insured, which means this accommodation would not work for it.

So even though they employ people of multiple faiths they still feel it right to impose their values on everyone.

98 dragonath  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:19:44pm

Hawaii is awesome. Besides, I think they remember how the Republicans ran the state like Northern Ireland back in the 50s.

99 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:20:02pm

George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina loves the devil

100 Lidane  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:20:07pm

re: #95 Kragar

David Barton is straight out making shit up again

Ezekiel 18:20, NIV:

"The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them."

What the hell does that have to do with treason?

101 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:20:21pm

re: #95 Kragar

David Barton is straight out making shit up again

This in 2012. Of course this is the same guy who thinks John Calvin means more to American history than Thomas Jefferson. Yet Rick Perry and Glenn Beck think he's a "great voice" on education.

102 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:21:06pm

re: #94 ggt

Or is Energy matter?

Nope as certain energy particles are defined as having no mass, which is a requirement for being called matter.

103 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:21:13pm

re: #89 ggt

Which came first:

Matter or Energy?

Gravity

“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”

104 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:21:21pm

re: #100 Lidane

Ezekiel 18:20, NIV:

What the hell does that have to do with treason?

Something, something, America is a Christan nation?

105 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:21:40pm

George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina is suspected of being a Darrell Worley fan, which is worse than loving the devil

106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:22:44pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Something, something, America is a Christan nation?

because queers and 6000 years old and have more white babyies to drown out the brown babies that's why

107 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:23:37pm

re: #106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

because queers and 6000 years old and have more white babyies to drown out the brown babies that's why

Oh, yeah, I was just guessing Barton's response to him having his verses wrong. Guy is no more a biblical scholar than I am a mathematician.

108 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:24:35pm

Image: 576455_364762776907019_239318682784763_962323_1521349192_n.jpg

109 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:24:56pm

re: #94 ggt

[Link: abyss.uoregon.edu...]

110 dragonath  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:26:00pm

re: #108 ggt

The Elmer Gantry Syndrome?

111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:26:26pm

re: #97 dragonfire1981

because Jesus said you have to inseminate!

Praise Him! inseminate!

LEARN TO BREED, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ATTENDING CLASS AT NOTERR DAAAAMEE

GOD LOVES YOU AND HATES THE PILL AND LOVES VIAGRA

112 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:27:18pm

re: #110 Be Zorch, Daddio

The Elmer Gantry Syndrome?

OMG --I don't think I've actually read that book.

113 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:28:03pm

re: #111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

because Jesus said you have to inseminate!

Praise Him! inseminate!

LEARN TO BREED, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ATTENDING CLASS AT NOTERR DAAAMEE

GOD LOVES

He loves you so much that if you don't listen to what he says during one human lifespan, he'll see to it you burn in a lake of fire for all eternity.

Yeah, thats fair.

114 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:29:44pm

re: #113 Kragar

He loves you so much that if you don't listen to what he says during one human lifespan, he'll see to it you burn in a lake of fire for all eternity.

Yeah, thats fair.

Hey! People need their myths.

It seems to be important.

I don't get it either.

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:29:48pm

re: #113 Kragar

He loves you so much that if you don't listen to what he says during one human lifespan, he'll see to it you burn in a lake of fire for all eternity.

Yeah, thats fair.

it's so simple! Why didn't I think of it? :D

116 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:29:57pm

re: #111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

because Jesus said you have to inseminate!

Praise Him! inseminate!

LEARN TO BREED, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ATTENDING CLASS AT NOTERR DAAAMEE

GOD LOVES YOU AND HATES THE PILL AND LOVES VIAGRA

If God did it, so shall you! /

117 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:31:05pm

Something occurred to me. God is not a virgin? /

118 abolitionist  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:31:09pm

I drove to the Great Dismal Swamp of NC to see the total eclipse of 07march1970. (Not 1971 as mentioned earlier.)

The weather was ideal, and the sky unusually clear. At totality, the area darkened as if at dusk, but the horizon remained bright in all directions.

There were a fair number of birds and insects (dragonflies etc) in the air at my location. I was delighted to notice that before and after totality, they cast crescent-shaped shadows on the ground. These shadows were very soft and subdued, but quite noticeable, and of various sizes according to the altitudes of each creature.

119 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:31:16pm

re: #116 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

If God did it, so shall you! /

Wait, God destroys as well --

or is that woman?

/

120 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:31:19pm

Anti-science and anti-contraception

How can it be that we are firmly into the 21st century and reading claims that birth control pills can cause prostate cancer and abort babies? Or, my personal favorite, that a woman can be considered pregnant before her egg unites with a sperm?

Such falsehoods are being touted not by yahoos but by educated conservatives who, in growing numbers, choose to ignore what science tells them.

According to a paper in a recent American Sociological Review, conservatives with at least a bachelor's degree have, over the last several decades, lost their faith in science to an amazing degree. Although the paper doesn't cite advances in contraception specifically, they are clearly one victim of this disaffection.

121 Lidane  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:31:29pm

re: #113 Kragar

He loves you so much that if you don't listen to what he says during one human lifespan, he'll see to it you burn in a lake of fire for all eternity.

Yeah, thats fair.

Youtube Video
122 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:33:14pm

re: #120 Kragar

in the 21st century, religions have become very advanced at brainwashing

"losing faith in science" is a funny phrase to me. Like losing faith in the color blue, or the skeleton

GUYS I'VE LOST FAITH IN MY SKELETON, BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE ALL ANIMATED BY JESUS CHRIST

WHAT ARE ALL THESE WHITE THINGS IN MY TORSO AND EXTREMITIES, REMOVE THEM AT ONCE

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:34:45pm

I lost my skeleton once.
/

124 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:35:33pm

I have lost faith in my endocrine system because a Georgia State Representative shook with the power of epilepsy peyote improperly grounded microphone cable delirium tremens Jesus!

125 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:36:47pm

re: #122 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

in the 21st century, religions have become very advanced at brainwashing

"losing faith in science" is a funny phrase to me. Like losing faith in the color blue, or the skeleton

GUYS I'VE LOST FAITH IN MY SKELETON, BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE ALL ANIMATED BY JESUS CHRIST

WHAT ARE ALL THESE WHITE THINGS IN MY TORSO AND EXTREMITIES, REMOVE THEM AT ONCE

It assumes religion is equally valid as science, which is a mistake to begin with.

These being the same assholes who complain when all the kids in school get a participation ribbon instead of the jocks getting trophies.

126 Gus  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:37:06pm

I'll let you guys figure this one out. Looks to me like she's saying that Breivik was really motivated by the nebulous "advocates of silence."

From: The Advocate of Silence
Ayaan Hirsi Ali

...Thirdly, and perhaps most seriously, silence empowers the Islamists, the radical agents of hatred. The young Muslim dropout, who is morally confused, is approached by a confident Islamist with a not so hidden agenda. The Islamist’s potential rivals in the struggle of hearts and minds – the Christians and the humanists – have been silenced by the kind of inhibitions I have already described. Muslim ghettoes in Europe today are exposed without censorship to the siren song of jihad, of martyrdom, of Sharia law, of hatred and self-exclusion. Here is an extreme ideology just as abhorrent as the neo-fascism of a Breivik. Yet to speak out against radical Islamism is to be condemned as an Islamophobe.

Fourthly and finally, that one man who killed 77 people in Norway, because he fears that Europe will be overrun by Islam, may have cited the work of those who speak and write against political Islam in Europe and America – myself among them – but he does not say in his 1500 page manifesto that it was these people who inspired him to kill. He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence.

Decades of informal censorship in Europe have led not to the promised integration of Muslim immigrants but to a culture of evasion and avoidance which has allowed extremism – both Jihadism and neo-Nazism – to flourish amid a general impotence of the established parties.

Ferdinand Lassalle, the early German socialist leader one said: “All great political action consists of and begins with, speaking out about that which is. All political petty-mindedness consists of being silent and covering up that which is.”...

127 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:37:12pm

re: #123 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

I lost my skeleton once.
/

Bad Translation: You lost your boner once.

128 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:38:06pm

re: #102 Kragar

Nope as certain energy particles are defined as having no mass, which is a requirement for being called matter.

True, but that definition revolves around a theoretical at rest mass. Massless particles still have a mass equivalence associated with their frame dependent energy (E=hf for photons.) If you could trap a shitload of photons in a jar their combined energy would add to the jar's observable weight. I think of the mass equivalence as the photon's surfboard, what allows it to interact with the geodesics of space time.

129 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:39:21pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

True, but that definition revolves around a theoretical at rest mass. Massless particles still have a mass equivalent associated with their frame dependent energy (E=hf for photons.) If you could trap a shitload of photons in a jar their combined energy would add to the jar's observable weight. I think of the mass equivalence as the photon's surfboard, what allows it to interact with the geodesics of space time.

CTHULU LAUGHS AT YOUR JAR OF PHOTONS!

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:40:01pm

so if conservatives have lost faith in science, what are they doing driving cars, going to the doctor, flying in planes and using the internet

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:40:12pm

re: #129 Kragar

hahahahahahahahahaha

132 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:40:56pm

re: #126 Gus

I'll let you guys figure this one out. Looks to me like she's saying that Breivik was really motivated by the nebulous "advocates of silence."

From: The Advocate of Silence
Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Sounds like an excuse to me. The anti Muslim cottage industry did encourage him. I have no doubt of that especially because of people like Geller and Spencer who willingly ally themselves with fascist movements because of their attraction to the fascist movements opposition to Muslim immigrants.

133 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:41:53pm

re: #124 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

I have lost faith in my endocrine system because a Georgia State Representative shook with the power of epilepsy peyote improperly grounded microphone cable delirium tremens Jesus!

Carl Sagan-Cosmos edited for rednecks

Youtube Video
134 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:42:03pm

re: #130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

so if conservatives have lost faith in science, what are they doing driving cars, going to the doctor, flying in planes and using the internet

Well there you have why fundamentalist Christianity today is a sham.

135 Lidane  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:42:31pm

re: #126 Gus

He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence.

In other words, he was just looking for any excuse to kill people.

It's a load of horseshit that he felt obligated to use violence because "advocates of silence" forced his views underground. I don't buy that for a second.

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:43:08pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

Well there you have why fundamentalist Christianity today is a sham.

but an AMAZING business model

137 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:43:40pm

re: #135 Lidane

In other words, he was just looking for any excuse to kill people.

It's a load of horseshit that he felt obligated to use violence because "advocates of silence" forced his views underground. I don't buy that for a second.

Yep, it's a cop out really. I ultimately hold Brevik responsible for Brevik's actions but there's no denying he was influenced by those who seek to deny equality under the law to Muslims.

138 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:44:30pm

re: #136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

but an AMAZING business model

But of course. I mean look at these preachers. They live like kings while they tell you and I that we're doomed for eternal damnation. This is as old as the first Great Awakening if not older.

139 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:47:31pm

re: #120 Kragar

Anti-science and anti-contraception

on my fb

140 Gus  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:47:46pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Sounds like an excuse to me. The anti Muslim cottage industry did encourage him. I have no doubt of that especially because of people like Geller and Spencer who willingly ally themselves with fascist movements because of their attraction to the fascist movements opposition to Muslim immigrants.

Thanks for the response.

141 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:48:36pm

re: #140 Gus

Thanks for the response.

Not a prob.

142 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:49:45pm

re: #136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]

but an AMAZING business model

with tax-free status!

143 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:50:05pm

Anyhow, the thing anti-science people will never reconcile is the fact that this nation would have never become as great as it did without scientific innovation. Scientific innovation is a cornerstone of modernity.

144 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:50:46pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, the thing anti-science people will never reconcile is the fact that this nation would have never become as great as it did without scientific innovation. Scientific innovation is a cornerstone of modernity.

How do they rationalize Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin?

145 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:52:12pm

re: #144 ggt

How do they rationalize Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin?

I have no idea. Brilliant minds those two. One of my favorite JFK quotes is when he was hosting a state dinner for Nobel Peace Prize winners. "This is the greatest configuration of geniuses in the White House except for when Thomas Jefferson dined alone" I'm paraphrasing but it was a good homage to how great a mind Jefferson was.

146 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:52:57pm

re: #144 ggt

How do they rationalize Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin?

They don't. They make up shit about them so they'll fit their world view.

147 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:53:04pm

I'm going to re-post this because this is how I see the rhetoric.

Preachers and politicians trying to convince the electorate.

148 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:53:23pm

re: #146 Kragar

They don't. They make up shit about them so they'll fit their world view.

And we have lightening rods because?????

We don't stand on a golf course during a lightening storm because?

Or come in off the late during a storm because?

149 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:54:14pm

re: #126 Gus

I'll let you guys figure this one out. Looks to me like she's saying that Breivik was really motivated by the nebulous "advocates of silence."

From: The Advocate of Silence
Ayaan Hirsi Ali

I would not have given a damn if she condemned this alleged phenomenon (which exists in some form, but is exaggerated by her) but also acknowledged the role of the people she instead whitewashes. I can't bear to say "fuck her" because of some things she went through, but I don't care for her either.

150 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:55:09pm

re: #126 Gus

Advocates of silence conjure up terrifying visions of fascistic regimes that will implement mass deportations of Muslims, mass imprisonment of Muslims, the closing of their mosques, the shutting down of their businesses, the exclusion of Muslims from education and employment, and other types of discrimination.

She forgot to mention the emboldening of white supremacist terrorists.

151 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:55:44pm

re: #148 ggt

And we have lightening rods because???

They ignore it.

152 Gus  Mon, May 21, 2012 1:56:30pm

re: #149 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

I would not have given a damn is she condemned this alleged phenomenon (which exists in some form, but is exaggerated by her) but also acknowledged the role of the people she instead whitewashes. I can't bear to say "fuck her" because of some she went through, but I don't care for her either.

That's how I learned of this. Coughlin616 Tweeted something and used that very same word. She's speaking to her audience obviously.

153 Gus  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:01:07pm

re: #150 Aye Pod

She forgot to mention the emboldening of white supremacist terrorists.

Which is what Breivik and others are.

154 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:03:58pm

re: #149 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

I would not have given a damn is she condemned this alleged phenomenon (which exists in some form, but is exaggerated by her) but also acknowledged the role of the people she instead whitewashes. I can't bear to say "fuck her" because of some things she went through, but I don't care for her either.

She seems to think that 'silence'=not running around screaming about muslims all the time like Pamela Geller. I won't condemn her criticisms of her religion, that's totallly understandable given her experience, and as an atheist I would never suggest that anyone be silent in this regard, but I think it's sad that she fell into the embrace of right wing freaks with xenophobic agendas so early on, and got stuck there with them.

155 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:04:23pm

re: #153 Gus

Which is what Breivik and others are.

Exactly.

156 Gus  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:09:12pm

re: #154 Aye Pod

She seems to think that 'silence'=not running around screaming about muslims all the time like Pamela Geller. I won't condemn her criticisms of her religion, that's totallly understandable given her experience, and as an atheist I would never suggest that anyone be silent in this regard, but I think it's sad that she fell into the embrace of right wing freaks with xenophobic agendas so early on, and got stuck there with them.

It's absurd to since Norway is not undergoing any crisis of Jihad or Sharia. And then to use Breivik as an example of "a voice not heard"? That he was enraged because of the silence over their demands? What silence is that? I've seen political parties with these very same demands win a small but noticeable presence in European nations over the past few years. As an American I don't want to silence them. I much prefer heckling them from my computer whenever the need arises. But to put Breivik in the position of "martyr of silence" is quite a jump even for her.

157 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:11:23pm

re: #154 Aye Pod

She seems to think that 'silence'=not running around screaming about muslims all the time like Pamela Geller. I won't condemn her criticisms of her religion, that's totallly understandable given her experience, and as an atheist I would never suggest that anyone be silent in this regard, but I think it's sad that she fell into the embrace of right wing freaks with xenophobic agendas so early on, and got stuck there with them.

It's a matter of balance. It's true that someone criticizing Islam as a system of beliefs runs a risk of being called an Islamophobe even if the criticisms are reasonable. No religious system should be above criticism. This includes criticism of certain practices of religion. However there's a certain (somewhat weak) taboo on rationally picking apart religions (esp. minority religions).

Yet she also has to go and make an obviously false claim that someone merely criticizing radical Islam is necessarily going to be called an Islamophobe. Nonsense. That many critics of radical Islam are called Islamophobes is not because they're critics of the radical Islam, but because they also go far beyond that.

158 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:12:51pm

OBLIGATORY cuteness!

159 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:14:38pm
......: each person is bound to follow it, and nobody can be forced to act contrary to their conscience. The HHS decision harmonizes well with this vision: It gives women the power to act according to the dictates of their individual conscience.
The problem is the U.S. bishops don't respect the consciences of the 98 percent of sexually active Catholic women who have used a form of birth control banned by the Vatican. These women doubtless would cite their well-being and that of their families for their moral decisions, but the bishops have seen fit to ignore this and have not been shy in expressing their point of view accordingly.

READ THE WHOLE THING --not long, but sane

160 Kragar  Mon, May 21, 2012 2:20:11pm

The fact churches are exempt for taxation goes against my beliefs. Why should I foot the bill for government when they aren't willing to do so?

You want to play the game, you need to ante up.

161 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 24, 2012 11:27:13am

lol

162 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 24, 2012 11:41:34am

Sorry about that. I'll talk with the culprit.


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