Todd Akin Confuses Mitt Romney and the Entire GOP Establishment With ‘Liberal Media’

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Tonight on Twitter, Todd Akin followed a well-worn right wing path and blamed everything on “the liberal media.”

He does have a small problem though.

At this point, he’s missed the deadline for withdrawing from the Senate race without penalties; he can still bail out but he’d need a court order, and he’d have to pay for ballots to be reprinted.

But it looks like he’s going for broke. He’s a Tea Party candidate through and through, and he doesn’t really owe anything to the Republican establishment.

We should be grateful to Akin for shining a big bright spotlight on the Republican Party’s total war on women’s rights. That’s why the big GOP fish put the big pressure on him today — not because they disapprove of him, and not because he expressed an extreme position, but because he’s spilling too many beans.

He’s a gift, not only to Claire McCaskill but to the Democratic Party and President Obama.

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123 comments
1 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:34:28pm

At this point, Akin has become the Sharon Angle of 2012.

2 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:35:38pm

On second thought, he's going past Angle and giving old Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell a run for the crown.

3 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:36:18pm

I'm not so sure he will lose. Religion, misogyny, lack of empathy & ignorance are strong factors these days.

4 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:37:16pm

Bryan Fischer Says Todd Akin is Like a Victim of Rape

After listing the growing chorus of conservative activists and media personalities who have called on Akin to quit the senate race, Fischer lamented that “everybody is gang tackling Todd Akin.” “You talk about a forcible situation, you talk about somebody being a victim of forcible assault, that would be Todd Akin,” Fischer maintained.

1) Accept the Blessing, Todd!

2) I really could have done without the image of Mitt Romney and Sean Hannity forcing themselves upon Todd Akin. Thanks for that, Bryan.

5 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:39:35pm

re: #4 Kragar

Yeah, all the religious right loonies are lining up behind Akins, e.g., Joe Farah:

REPUBLICANS HANG AKIN OUT TO DRY

[...]

Think about it. It’s like a friend of mine said recently. “Which of the following do you find more troubling? 1) Ted Kennedy kills a woman; 2) Barney Frank runs a homosexual prostitution ring out of his apartment; 3) Bill Clinton is credibly accused of raping Juanita Broaddrick; (4) Todd Akin misspeaks.”

TED KENNEDY!!

6 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:39:48pm

re: #4 Kragar

Bryan Fischer Says Todd Akin is Like a Victim of Rape

1) Accept the Blessing, Todd!

2) I really could have done without the image of Mitt Romney and Sean Hannity forcing themselves upon Todd Akin. Thanks for that, Bryan.

Comparing something to being raped is the new Godwin.

7 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:40:48pm

re: #4 Kragar

Bryan Fischer Says Todd Akin is Like a Victim of Rape

1) Accept the Blessing, Todd!

2) I really could have done without the image of Mitt Romney and Sean Hannity forcing themselves upon Todd Akin. Thanks for that, Bryan.

Ever watch the South Park episode that dealt with the trauma of Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull?

8 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:41:28pm

re: #5 freetoken

Yeah, all the religious right loonies are lining up behind Akins, e.g., Joe Farah:

REPUBLICANS HANG AKIN OUT TO DRY

TED KENNEDY!!

He left off David Barton is called a Historian.

9 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:42:12pm

re: #7 Mocking Jay

Ever watch the South Park episode that dealt with the trauma of Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull?

Ever watch the South Park episode that dealt with Kurt Russell going into Imagination Land and meeting up with the Satanic Woodland critters?

10 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:42:15pm

re: #6 Learned Mother of Zion

Comparing something to being raped is the new Godwin.

Criticism is just as bad as the Holocaust.
/

11 erik_t  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:42:47pm

re: #10 Kragar

Criticism is just as bad as the Holocaust.
/

You know what's just as bad as the Holocaust?

HILTER.

/

12 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:43:02pm

re: #10 Kragar

Criticism is just as bad as the Holocaust.
/

Getting made fun of on Twitter is WORSE than the Holocaust and the Middle Passage!1!ty

13 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:43:13pm

re: #5 freetoken

Yeah, all the religious right loonies are lining up behind Akins, e.g., Joe Farah:

REPUBLICANS HANG AKIN OUT TO DRY

[...]

Think about it. It’s like a friend of mine said recently. “Which of the following do you find more troubling? 1) Ted Kennedy kills a woman; 2) Barney Frank runs a homosexual prostitution ring out of his apartment; 3) Bill Clinton is credibly accused of raping Juanita Broaddrick; (4) Todd Akin misspeaks.”

TED KENNEDY!!

RWNJs like Farah (and Akin) are severely fucked in the head...and the rest of us will suffer for it.

14 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:43:41pm

There are GOPers who will try to spin this as Akin's rape comments aren't indicative of the rest of the party, except that Akin's positions are part and parcel of the GOP rollback of women's rights - including the personhood amendments they're trying to pass nationally, the further limitation of abortions, and trying to redefine rape into classes that have never before existed (legitimate rape, etc.).

Moreover, Akin's positions are based on those of other leading GOPers and right wing/ social conservative such as Bryan Fischer; they're pushing a social conservative agenda and Akin's only fault is that he let the cat out of the bag before the election. His attempts at backtracking only further exposed the GOP charade about womens' rights.

15 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:43:48pm

re: #9 Learned Mother of Zion

Ever watch the South Park episode that dealt with Kurt Russell going into Imagination Land and meeting up with the Satanic Woodland critters?

I think I caught the end of that one. Where Cartman has a fictional Kyle suck his balls? Never sat through the whole thing.

16 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:44:29pm

And he swings and he misses! Typical right-wing "debate" technique of either a) blaming some alleged "liberal media" and/or b) playing the victim. I expect more "the libruls done it" conspiracy theories to come out of the right wing machine.

17 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:44:33pm
18 bratwurst  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:44:58pm

My favorite is when mental midgets attempt to compare Akin and Whoopi Goldberg...because a talk show host/comedian is EXACTLY LIKE a Congressman attempting to become a Senator.

19 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:45:25pm

re: #16 Gus

Meanwhile, Bob Owens (got this wrong; thought it was Ed Morrissey) is trying to spin this as liberal spin ignoring Fast and Furious while Akin is trying to save lives (we'd just have to ignore the lives of the women who have to suffer in the process).

20 erik_t  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:45:55pm

re: #18 bratwurst

My favorite is when mental midgets attempt to compare Akin and Whoopi Goldberg...because a talk show host/comedian is EXACTLY LIKE a Congressman attempting to become a Senator.

Well, most GOP office-runners moonlight as comedians during business hours.

21 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:46:01pm

re: #14 lawhawk

There are GOPers who will try to spin this as Akin's rape comments aren't indicative of the rest of the party, except that Akin's positions are part and parcel of the GOP rollback of women's rights - including the personhood amendments they're trying to pass nationally, the further limitation of abortions, and trying to redefine rape into classes that have never before existed (legitimate rape, etc.).

Moreover, Akin's positions are based on those of other leading GOPers and right wing/ social conservative such as Bryan Fischer; they're pushing a social conservative agenda and Akin's only fault is that he let the cat out of the bag before the election. His attempts at backtracking only further exposed the GOP charade about womens' rights.

Again, this is all a branding problem to them. From their point of view they don't need to purge extremists from the party. They need Don Draper.

22 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:49:47pm

re: #19 lawhawk

The Salem Communications outlets, owned by a couple of very far right, highly religious old men, are doing their best to make this Akin's thing into a victimization of conservatives thing, while clinging to the strategy that the Democrats are more evil and thus the priority is to get a GOP controlled Senate.

IOW, they are continuing on with the 1980 era strategy (of which they partook actively) by the small enclave of religious right movers and shakers which pushed so hard behind Reagan, of winning at all costs, and then implementing the theocratic agenda. They are being strategic.

A few of the slower commenters at their sites (HotAir, Townhall, etc.) are trying to be "true conservatives" and are lamenting the push on Akins to quit, but the higher-ups know that strategy is more important at this time.

23 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:49:58pm
As Falls Wichita So Falls Wichita Falls
Pat Metheny

Via NowPlaying

Played in El Paso Sunday:

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BTW, the Now Playing thingy is lookin' good these days, except it no longer says "Now Playing" at the top. I guess that's not needed when it says "Via Now Playing" at the bottom.

Another Wingnut:

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24 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:50:17pm

re: #21 Mocking Jay

Again, this is all a branding problem to them. From their point of view they don't need to purge extremists from the party. They need Don Draper.

GOP extremism is turning this election into one in which they can only win by driving the base to the polls with hatred and fear, suppressing democratic turnout, and hoping the whole mess is so disgusting huge numbers decide not to vote. Unfortunately, Obama has a huge lead among those unlikely to vote.

25 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:50:51pm

re: #21 Mocking Jay

Again, this is all a branding problem to them. From their point of view they don't need to purge extremists from the party. They need Don Draper.

The GOP needs Winston Wolf...

Youtube Video

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26 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:52:48pm

re: #25 TedStriker

Winston Wolf for President! /

27 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:52:51pm

re: #22 freetoken

The Salem Communications outlets, owned by a couple of very far right, highly religious old men, are doing their best to make this Akin's thing into a victimization of conservatives thing, while clinging to the strategy that the Democrats are more evil and thus the priority is to get a GOP controlled Senate.

IOW, they are continuing on with the 1980 era strategy (of which they partook actively) by the small enclave of religious right movers and shakers which pushed so hard behind Reagan, of winning at all costs, and then implementing the theocratic agenda. They are being strategic.

A few of the slower commenters at their sites (HotAir, Townhall, etc.) are trying to be "true conservatives" and are lamenting the push on Akins to quit, but the higher-ups know that strategy is more important at this time.

RWNJs love the long con, because that sees them being in charge (or close enough to it).

28 Only The Lurker Knows  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:53:53pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

29 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:54:11pm

re: #15 Mocking Jay

I think I caught the end of that one. Where Cartman has a fictional Kyle suck his balls? Never sat through the whole thing.

That was the 3-part epic, but at one point Kurt Russell leads a band of special forces into the forest where they are raped by the little Satanic Critters.

30 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:54:26pm

re: #26 lawhawk

Winston Wolf for President! /

Why not? He could've blown Mitt away in the primaries, then made sure he'd never be found...

///

31 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:54:27pm

Later, lizards.

32 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:57:15pm

Prayers to Khorne should be allowed before a game.

33 b_sharp  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:57:19pm

Anyone know anything about the RWNJ talking point that the Dems funded Akin because they knew they could beat him?

34 researchok  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:57:57pm

re: #16 Gus

And he swings and he misses! Typical right-wing "debate" technique of either a) blaming some alleged "liberal media" and/or b) playing the victim. I expect more "the libruls done it" conspiracy theories to come out of the right wing machine.

Clearly, you've set the bar too high.

I'm just hoping the day comes when the lessons of knowing when to shut up and 'sometimes less is more' finally sinks in.

So far, it's been a long wait.

35 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:58:31pm

re: #33 b_sharp

Anyone know anything about the RWNJ talking point that the Dems funded Akin because they knew they could beat him?

Wouldn't surprise me if that's floating around in the Wingnut-O-Sphere, because that's what they do.

36 erik_t  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:58:47pm

re: #32 Kragar

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Prayers to Khorne should be allowed before a game.

Bryan Fischer probably thinks that George Washington invented football, or something.

37 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:58:52pm

re: #33 b_sharp

Anyone know anything about the RWNJ talking point that the Dems funded Akin because they knew they could beat him?

I heard that McCaskill bought 1.5 million $ in ads saying Akin was the "true conservative", but I haven't searched for confirmation yet.

38 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:59:49pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Played in El Paso Sunday:

Image: WichitaWingnuts.PNG

BTW, the Now Playing thingy is lookin' good these days, except it no longer says "Now Playing" at the top. I guess that's not needed when it says "Via Now Playing" at the bottom.

Another Wingnut:

Image: Wingnuts_cap.PNG

Yes, I got rid of that CD case graphic, made the album art much larger, and styled the text a little more. I also revamped the 'Playlist' page:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

39 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:59:55pm

re: #32 Kragar

*sigh*

Hey, Bryan -- Know what else isn't in the Constitution? The Air Force.

Moron.

40 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:00:36pm

re: #34 researchok

Clearly, you've set the bar too high.

I'm just hoping the day comes when the lessons of knowing when to shut up and 'sometimes less is more' finally sinks in.

So far, it's been a long wait.

When you're in a hole...

41 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:01:28pm

re: #32 Kragar

Likewise, prayers to Krom or General Zod are greatly appreciated. /

42 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:02:03pm

re: #33 b_sharp

Anyone know anything about the RWNJ talking point that the Dems funded Akin because they knew they could beat him?

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

43 Big Joe  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:02:19pm

re: #33 b_sharp

Anyone know anything about the RWNJ talking point that the Dems funded Akin because they knew they could beat him?

Here you go.

Democrats signal eagerness to face Todd Akin in Missouri

The latest example is a new radio ad paid for by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee that attacks Rep. Todd Akin (R), but does so slyly, in a manner that appears to be designed to endear him to conservative voters.

“Todd Akin calls himself the true conservative, but is he too conservative?” asks the narrator of the ad, which is approved by McCaskill’s campaign and paid for by the DSCC. The narrator goes on to note the negative posture Akin has taken toward President Obama, before concluding, “it’s no surprise Todd has been endorsed by the most conservative leaders in our country – Michele Bachmann and Mike Huckabee.”

44 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:02:52pm

The Republican establishment against him?

Bollocks.

Mr. Ryan co-sponsored a bill with this animal that tried to parse rape into forcible rape.

Mr. Ryan has come out in favor of prohibiting abortion in all cases. Hell, why is the GOP platform committee considering adding a ban, with no mention of exceptions, to this year's party planks?

As to Akin's repealing civil rights, please, Rand Paul was all for repealing the civil rights act. Remember that? These two are not the only ones.

Remember the dangerous, evil, false, pseudo-science about raped women not being able to conceive? Do you really think he is the first GOP nut to come up with that talking point? It has been circulating in wingnut echo-chambers for years. Hell, the Loesh's were desperately twittering to defend that as real science just last night.

Remember all the GOP attempts to take out planned parenthood and put invasive probes into women completely medically unecessary or not?

Or what about the endless attacks on birth control, or any educated woman who stands up for rights over her own body?

This is not Akin alone.

The GOP establishment is up to its foetid, sweaty man-boobs in this.

Remember how the GOP voted (to a man!) against the Franken bill that would have prohibited federal money form going to companies with histories of raping females and forcing cover-ups? Remember how the woman who started that case had been gang raped by Haliburton men, and locked in a cargo container for three days afterwards - only to be broken out by the military?

Yeah that GOP, the pro-rape GOP. The prepare for rape "like you always have a spare tire" Yeah... Republican state Rep. Pete DeGraaf suggested women should plan ahead for rape the way he keeps a spare tire.

In a sense, I can understand Akin's confusion. He's been saying the same shit all the rest say, again and again, and he doesn't understand why this time it got him into trouble.

The GOP are scum. They are all scum. Face it and get real with it. Call evil what it is, or learn to embrace the suck.

45 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:04:36pm

re: #41 lawhawk

Likewise, prayers to Krom or General Zod are greatly appreciated. /

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

46 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:04:36pm

re: #41 lawhawk

Likewise, prayers to Krom or General Zod are greatly appreciated. /

Its Crom, with a C, not a K.

47 dragonath  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:06:12pm

Remember, In Missouri, Romney only polled something like 25% to Santorum's 55%. The Heartland is really getting sordid these days.

48 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:06:58pm
49 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:07:48pm

The "Massachusetts moderate" who isn't:

From the link:

What these Massachusetts voters don't know yet is that Scott Brown is very much one of them. All the proof you need of that is where he gets and gives his campaign money. First, where he gets it. Remember Clayton Williams of too extreme for John McCain fame? The guy who said rape was like the weather: "As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it." That's this Clayton Williams, from OpenSecrets:

Image: williamsbrown__.png

50 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:09:07pm

re: #48 Lidane

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The shitty thing about that, is just like it took W. Bush to make the perfectly legitimate idea of a pre-emptive strike, dirty words amongst thinking Americans, is that Iran really can not be allowed a nuclear weapon yet backlash against the morons in the GOP will gum up action if it is needed.

And of course, a self serving sociopath like Romney doesn't give a shit about that as much as jingoism and trying to get the trog vote.

51 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:09:58pm

re: #49 Interesting Times

The "Massachusetts moderate" who isn't:

[Embedded content]

From the link:

Image: williamsbrown__.png

They are all like this.

They watch mad men and miss the Stepford ideal of women.

52 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:09:59pm

re: #46 Kragar

Its Crom, with a C, not a K.

"Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it."

53 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:11:24pm
54 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:12:15pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Sounds like the name of some sort of punk-ish band of days gone by.

55 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:13:19pm

re: #54 freetoken

Sounds like the name of some sort of punk-ish band of days gone by.

More New Wave I should think.

Something along the lines of Video Killed the Radio Star....

56 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:16:42pm

re: #41 lawhawk

Likewise, prayers to Krom or General Zod are greatly appreciated. /

Screw that. If I get a job, imma throw a party in Loki's honor. Hehe.

57 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:16:52pm

In a related note, my fiancée and I sat down to watch the Help last night.

And yes... when I think of the GOP, I think of Hilly. Loved that speech she gave about Jesus and not lending money.

Come to think of it, it is no particular accident that elections look like the civil war all over again - ever since the Dixiecrats became Republicans to protest civil rights.

58 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:19:38pm

re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote

Maybe an opening act for Cyndi Lauper?

59 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:19:40pm

What a tool.

60 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:20:22pm

re: #56 Lidane

Puny God. /Hulk

61 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:21:39pm

how soon before all americans become the liberal media?

62 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:22:20pm

re: #61 engineer cat

how soon before all americans become the liberal media?

63 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:22:24pm

re: #56 Lidane

Screw that. If I get a job, imma throw a party in Loki's honor. Hehe.

Its for the ritual application of physical trauma and brain damage. Save Loki for the good times.

64 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:22:36pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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re: #54 freetoken

Sounds like the name of some sort of punk-ish band of days gone by.

re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote

More New Wave I should think.

Something along the lines of Video Killed the Radio Star....

re: #58 freetoken

Maybe an opening act for Cyndi Lauper?

Behold...the Tubes:

Youtube Video
65 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:22:56pm

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah that GOP, the pro-rape GOP. The prepare for rape "like you always have a spare tire" Yeah... Republican state Rep. Pete DeGraaf suggested women should plan ahead for rape the way he keeps a spare tire.

66 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:23:16pm

re: #60 lawhawk

Puny God. /Hulk

Everyone's puny compared to the Hulk. Heh.

67 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:23:32pm

Semi-OT: Is all of this taking a toll?

Why, yes. Yes, it is.

A new NBC/WSJ poll came out tonight, and one number is particularly worrisome for Mitt Romney.

According to an NBC analysis of the poll, Obama leads Romney by a whopping 10 points among female voters, a key demographic that tends to turn out reliably on Election Day.

Moreover, on the question of which candidate is better dealing with issues of concern to women, only 24% of voters surveyed chose Romney, compared to 52% who chose Obama.

And this poll ended just as Akin was breakin'. It's only gonna get worse.

68 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:23:42pm

It's always someone else's fault. Sorry Todd but man up for once & stop blaming the left because you're stuck in the dark ages.

69 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:25:03pm
70 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:25:49pm

re: #63 Kragar

Its for the ritual application of physical trauma and brain damage. Save Loki for the good times.

Good point. Maybe I'll save the Loki party for my birthday. Or maybe not. My next birthday, I turn 40.

Hmm. Now I'm stumped.

71 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:26:01pm

re: #64 TedStriker

re: #54 freetoken

re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #58 freetoken

Behold...the Tubes:

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Ahhh... now that takes me back... to when MTv showed music....

72 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:27:29pm

re: #65 Interesting Times

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Damn straight.

Any woman who votes GOP is either evil, crazy, delusional or some combination thereof.

73 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:28:17pm

re: #71 LudwigVanQuixote

Ahhh... now that takes me back... to when MTv showed music....

MTV showed music?

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74 engineer cat  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:28:56pm

i have to say i like the trend toward more and more dada and surrealism in american elections

just wait till we get to abstract expressionism...

75 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:29:22pm

re: #58 freetoken

Maybe an opening act for Cyndi Lauper?

And I still love Cyndi Lauper.

There are a few total gems from the eighties, and I would say she has two of them in Time after Time and I drove all night.

Of course a list of favorite 80's tunes for me would have something close to 80 songs.

76 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:30:18pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

MTV showed music?

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I know it is hard to believe, but they used to be something like VH1.

It was like they were a pop radio station made out of videos.

77 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:31:34pm

re: #74 engineer cat

i have to say i like the trend toward more and more dada and surrealism in american elections

just wait till we get to abstract expressionism...

An eloquent way of putting it, but Dada is only best when it isn't real and only a parody of reality. Right now, its a POEs law world.

78 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:32:54pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

It's always someone else's fault. Sorry Todd but man up for once & stop blaming the left because you're stuck in the dark ages.

Ever notice how the GOP whines like Cartman? They love to dish but they can't take a hit.

Hell, Cartman got POEs lawed into irrelevance by the real GOP.

79 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:33:04pm

re: #70 Lidane

Good point. Maybe I'll save the Loki party for my birthday. Or maybe not. My next birthday, I turn 40.

Hmm. Now I'm stumped.

Hit 39 Friday.

80 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:34:46pm

re: #72 LudwigVanQuixote

Any woman who votes GOP is either evil, crazy, delusional or some combination thereof.

I still can't get over how many people (especially the female ones) who appear to back Obama but then vote for down-ticket GOPers! Are they dumber than a bag of wet mice, or stupider than a box of rocks?

On another note, I sent you an email. Not sure if you've checked your LGF account in a while; hopefully it still works! :)

81 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:35:45pm

bbl

82 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:35:49pm

BTW, are the mini-Breitbarts still defending the false pseudo science that raped women can't conceive, or are they just trying to pretend that never happened?

83 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:36:02pm

I see you Killgore!

84 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:36:15pm

re: #80 Interesting Times

I still can't get over how many people (especially the female ones) who appear to back Obama but then vote for down-ticket GOPers! Are they dumber than a bag of wet mice, or stupider than a box of rocks?

On another note, I sent you an email. Not sure if you've checked your LGF account in a while; hopefully it still works! :)

I will check it.

85 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:37:11pm

re: #82 LudwigVanQuixote

BTW, are the mini-Breitbarts still defending the false pseudo science that raped women can't conceive, or are they just trying to pretend that never happened?

I think they're going with "He was a really good guy" and ignoring the rest.

86 dragonath  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:39:38pm

Wow

Ohio GOP Election Board Member: Our Voting Process Shouldn’t Accommodate Black Voters

“I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine,” said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. “Let’s be fair and reasonable.”

He called claims of unfairness by Ohio Democratic Chairman Chris Redfern and others “bullshit. Quote me!”

From a Columbus Dispatch article:

But from a political and perhaps cultural standpoint, not all absentee ballots are created equal. Republicans are much more likely to mail their absentee ballots, while Democrats (and African-Americans) prefer to cast their absentee ballots in person.

Thus, when Husted expands absentee balloting by mail but shrinks the opportunity for in-person balloting, most Republican party leaders are happy but many Democrats howl.

A study by the Franklin County Board of Elections shows that 48 percent of early, in-person votes in 2008 were cast after hours on weekdays, on weekends or on the Monday before the election — almost none of which is available to 2012 voters.

87 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:39:44pm

Even when the religious anti-abortionists try to be empathetic, they still get it wrong. E.g., on the popular online site marketed to American "evangelicals", The Gospel Coalition:

What Todd Akin Should Have Said About Abortion and Rape

[...]

The media circus moved quickly from discussion of Akin’s remarks to a wider discussion about the legitimacy of abortion in a tough case. And some “pro-life” politicians took the bait, not only condemning Akin’s unfortunate remarks but also declaring their support for abortion in this particular case.

Let me be clear: Allowing abortion in the case of rape is not the way to express sympathy toward a victim of this crime. Abortion only destroys the life of another victim.

That’s why I wish the conversation with Akin had gone more like this…

[...]

They are still wrapping themselves around the axle by believing that DNA has some magickalness, and that a zygote is a "person".

Now, I never expect in a million years that President Obama will come out and state clearly that a fertilized egg is not a "human", and that is because even many who are still registered under "Democratic Party" are themselves rather conservative religiously, especially in regards to abortion.

Yet we, as a nation, need leaders and public speakers to push forward with a more modern understanding of life - what it is and what it isn't.

It's at times like these that I wished we hadn't bans on human cloning. (Yeah, I know...) If only more people would accept what is true - that "we" are just a colony of cells sharing DNA, a colony which itself hosts even more plentiful bacteria colonies - then we could get past all of this.

If I were to be really elitist I could go on and on about how this problem is a manifestation of mind-body dualism, a problematic view of reality that still infuses much of western (as well as eastern) cultures.

88 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:41:56pm

re: #83 Gus

I see you Killgore!

wha?

89 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:42:31pm

re: #86 dragonath

Wow

Ohio GOP Election Board Member: Our Voting Process Shouldn’t Accommodate Black Voters

And then the right wing talking heads complain when polls show Romney receiving 0% support in the black community.

90 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:45:14pm
91 Mocking Jay  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:46:19pm

re: #83 Gus

I see you Killgore!

Every time you callhim out like that I picture a movie scene.

Kill.gore! Come out and plaaayyy!

92 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:50:23pm

Played with some features

93 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:51:40pm

re: #12 Learned Mother of Zion

Getting made fun of on Twitter is WORSE than the Holocaust and the Middle Passage!1!ty

PUT TOGETHER.

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:52:48pm

re: #18 bratwurst

My favorite is when mental midgets attempt to compare Akin and Whoopi Goldberg...because a talk show host/comedian is EXACTLY LIKE a Congressman attempting to become a Senator.

I wouldn't vote for Whoopi anymore for anything. Not since the 'rape-rape' comment.

95 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:52:52pm

re: #85 Kragar

I think they're going with "He was a really good guy" and ignoring the rest.

Of course they are... We have always been at war with EastAsia.

96 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:54:46pm

Anyone remember this video?

Youtube Video
97 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 6:59:44pm

One has to look no farther than "real conservative" Eric Son of Erick for more of this Wrapped Around the Axle of Fantasy:

Will Congressman Akin Put His World View Ahead of His Pride?

The hyperbole from the left over Todd Akin has been disgusting. The man truly believes that children who are conceived out of rape should not be killed. The Bible teaches us that God raised us up from the dust of the earth and stitched us together in our mothers’ wombs.

When you believe that, as Congressman Akin does, then it is asking much to tear apart what God has stitched together.

[...]

Eric, who denies his creationism and the overwhelmingly dominant view of literal creationism among Republicans, just can't get around the idea that each little Zygote is Special.

No matter how one dances around it, a fertilized egg is just a cell with a complete set of chromosomes.

This is why I mentioned human cloning earlier. While there are many ethical considerations regarding that subject, the one very clear implication of a cloned human is that the "soul" is very much not a magickal thing - humans are sentient and sentience is wonderful (this sentient being wrote), but it is not magickal.

98 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:00:53pm

Peace out all.

99 Kragar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:01:05pm

re: #96 Amory Blaine

Anyone remember this video?

[Embedded content]

I remember the Weird Al version.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:03:19pm

"The hyperbole from the left over Todd Akin has been disgusting. The man truly believes that children who are conceived out of rape should not be killed."

That's nice. But that's not what he said, asshole.

What he said: "We don't need to worry about rape victims, because women don't really get pregnant from being raped."

What they're pretending he said: "The child of a rape is still a precious human life."

Those are not equivalent statements.

BTW, I went to the halal barbecue place today, and the gentleman who waited on us was scolding Huckabee over his 'some of the best people are children of rape' comments. "The point," he said, "is that rape is a crime. Why is this man acting like it has some good points or something?"

Halal Barbecue Place Man for the Senate.

101 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:05:53pm

More from that NBC/WSJ poll:

No Ryan Bounce

“Mitt Romney is starting to accumulate a number of negatives on the personal front and issues front,” said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff, according to NBC’s FirstRead blog. “Mitt Romney has a lot of repair work to do with his image.”

102 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:06:48pm

If a woman who is raped and conceives bears her child to term, she won't get child support, right?

Are we, as a nation, prepared to make that up to her?

If you insist she bears this child that she did not bring about through her own actions, you should be prepared to support her.

103 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:06:56pm

To a guy like Akin, National Review and Fox News are the liberal media.


Gimme my WND!

104 dragonath  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:07:23pm

re: #101 makeitstop

“Mitt Romney has a lot of repair work to do with his image.”

Understatement of the year.

105 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:07:25pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

It now doesn't matter so much what Atkins literally spoke - what is now becoming manifest is the "conservative Christians are martyrs" meme vs. the feelings of many Americans that Atkins is just an idiot.

Here is a typical comment from that Erickson piece:

Why

reclaimit Tuesday, August 21st at 7:39AM EDT (link)

Did he say something he should not have said if its something he truly believes? Should we all walk around ashamed of our opinions because they are not backed by “science”? This is a man who sits on the Science and Technology Committee in Congress. He doesn’t have a degree from some kooky Christian Bible college, as the libs claim, but a BA from Worcester Polytechnical Institute. I would put my money on him in matters of science and biology over Claire McCaskill. The Family Research Council has fully supported Akin through this flame up. They have just as much legitimacy as the AMA, in my opinion.

If Todd Akin believes Obamacare should be repealed, I can only think he didn’t come to that decision lightly. He used his background in science, medicine, and Christianity, and he sees that it makes sturdy political sense to fight it. That’s more than the Supposed Catholic on the Supreme Court was able to do. Let’s see how hard Akin fights. We could use a good fighter in the Senate, and not one who buckles to leftist media, politicians, and women’s rights organizations.

The Stoopid grows strong in that crowd, and there is little one can do about it as they refuse to listen.

106 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:08:41pm

re: #96 Amory Blaine

Anyone remember this video?

[Embedded content]

Oh, the preacher's find the ring motion.

107 Petero1818  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:09:03pm

re: #102 Mostly sane, most of the time.

If a woman who is raped and conceives bears her child to term, she won't get child support, right?

Are we, as a nation, prepared to make that up to her?

If you insist she bears this child that she did not bring about through her own actions, you should be prepared to support her.

Don't even go down that path. It is a fools errand. Insisting she bear a child is criminal and a complete denial of liberty.

108 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:11:56pm

re: #107 Petero1818

Don't even go down that path. It is a fools errand. Insisting she bear a child is criminal and a complete denial of liberty.

109 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:12:40pm

re: #104 dragonath

Understatement of the year.

I often find myself wondering if regular people notice things like we do.

It's nice to see that they are. I don't feel as much like I'm shouting into the wind now.

110 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:13:22pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

What a tool.

re: #102 Mostly sane, most of the time.

If a woman who is raped and conceives bears her child to term, she won't get child support, right?

Are we, as a nation, prepared to make that up to her?

If you insist she bears this child that she did not bring about through her own actions, you should be prepared to support her.

And, as stated in an earlier thread, some states do not automatically terminate rapists' parental rights, if the rapist is known, IIRC.

That just makes my head hurt right there...

111 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:14:06pm

re: #105 freetoken

It now doesn't matter so much what Atkins literally spoke - what is now becoming manifest is the "conservative Christians are martyrs" meme vs. the feelings of many Americans that Atkins is just an idiot.

Here is a typical comment from that Erickson piece:

The Stoopid grows strong in that crowd, and there is little one can do about it as they refuse to listen.

i.e.

re: #3 Stanley Sea

I'm not so sure he will lose. Religion, misogyny, lack of empathy & ignorance are strong factors these days.

112 Petero1818  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:14:53pm

re: #108 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

I am not feeling that. It is too easy to refute. Republicans are certainly not in favour of rapists rights. Rather they are ideologues who put their own faith, uninformed opinions and faux science ahead of women's rights.

113 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:17:19pm

re: #112 Petero1818

I am not feeling that. It is too easy to refute. Republicans are certainly not in favour of rapists rights. Rather they are ideologues who put their own faith, uninformed opinions and faux science ahead of women's rights.

Which has the same effect, stated or not, unfortunately.

114 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:22:11pm

re: #112 Petero1818

I am not feeling that. It is too easy to refute. Republicans are certainly not in favour of rapists rights. Rather they are ideologues who put their own faith, uninformed opinions and faux science ahead of women's rights.

Eh...

Akin's opinion...and Fried's...and Wilke's...et cetera...presumes that most cases of rape are not rape because they're not "forcible," and that if a woman get pregnant it can't have been from non-consensual sex.

That amounts to dismissing a lot of accusations of rape, and re-styling rapists as "men who had a misunderstanding with a woman, and she cries rape (because hysteria and bitterness and ladyfeelings)."

So rape is redefined to a tiny subsection of sexual incidents that don't fit into the criteria already laid out...AND FURTHERMORE, they're still intent on further shaming and doubting raped women as a tactic to keep them from getting abortions.

That's pretty damn pro-rape.

On the other hand, it doesn't work in terms of optics as a campaign line to use against the GOP. It sounds too harsh.

115 Petero1818  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:22:59pm

re: #113 TedStriker

Which has the same effect, stated or not, unfortunately.

It may have that effect, but when you argue "they put certain rights ahead of others" you are arguing that they gave priority to one over the other. In fact that may not be the case at all. They are attempting to give priority to a fertilized egg over the rights of a woman. That is certainly true. The fact that it results in a Rapist having rights is simply a consequence. There is no need in my mind to they to make this something it is not. That is the path when one's argument is not strong enough on its face. No need for that here. It discredits the argument IMHO.

116 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:23:24pm

re: #112 Petero1818

I am not feeling that. It is too easy to refute. Republicans are certainly not in favour of rapists rights. Rather they are ideologues who put their own faith, uninformed opinions and faux science ahead of women's rights.

Paul Ryan Sponsored a Bill that Would Allow Rapists to Stop their Victims from Aborting

To most women, Paul Ryan's ideas are pretty much the political equivalent of menstruating forever. But it seems like some new analysis of legislation he wrote really takes the cake: if Paul Ryan had his way, theoretically, a rapist would be able to sue his victim in order to prevent her from having an abortion. Hey girl, no means baby.

117 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:47:34pm

re: #114 The Ghost of a Flea

On the other hand, it doesn't work in terms of optics as a campaign line to use against the GOP. It sounds too harsh.

Did that ever stop a litany of successful GOP frames, like "Death Panels"? Don't fall into the trap of thinking just because something isn't cross-Ts-dot-i's literal it can't be said. Another way of looking at it:

Lesson Numero Uno in framing is to get your opponent to argue from your frame; forcing them to either abandon their own position to fight you on your terms, or to have to restate your frame whenever they try to counter it—or both.

Republicans are masters at that game, as evidenced by the most notorious example: Death panels. Democrats, on the other hand, suck at it.

Until now.
...

We strongly encourage you to use this frame—Republicans are for rapists' rights over women's rights—relentlessly. They will be forced to scream and pitch their holy fits that they are not protecting rapists' rights! See what just happened? The frame got repeated!

118 Petero1818  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:49:35pm

re: #116 Interesting Times

Paul Ryan Sponsored a Bill that Would Allow Rapists to Stop their Victims from Aborting

I certainly have no desire to argue on behalf of the GOP here so I won't. But you need to review your argument more carefully. The article you are referring to that argued that a rapist could sue, was not arguing any sort of parental rights law suit. It was merely the fact that anyone, including a rapist could sue to stop the abortion in another jurisdiction since, in their own jurisdiction any and all abortion would be illegal. Essentially standing would be granted to any advocate of the fetus as I understand it. It is possible that it could be the rapist, or it could be anyone else. It is a function of it being against a state law to abort a fetus under any circumstances.

all this is not to say that the GOP position is any less offensive, disgusting and evil. It is on its face all those things to deny women the right to control their own bodies and reproduction. what it is not IMHO is a desire to put rapists rights ahead of women's rights, and I don't think anything is gained pretending that is what it is.

119 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 8:44:11pm

re: #118 Petero1818

Did you see my #117? It seems you're getting hung up on technicalities and semantics, which is a grave strategic error in the emotion-driven world of campaigning/marketing (and face it, they're the same). Though if you do want to get technical, the statement says nothing about "desire" or "intention" - it simply states GOP policy, as it stands, puts rapist's rights over women's rights. When that's the natural result - even "unintentional" - it's not only fair but necessary to point it out!

As I've said before, no statement is "too harsh" when describing the current GOP because yes, they really are that bad. They certainly never minced words when going after Dems, and for the most part, the strategy brought them spectacular success. Time to fight back and put them on the defensive. And we don't even need to go as far as LBJ in this legendary exchange:

"But sir, you know he doesn't fuck pigs!

I know. I just want to make him deny it."

So make them deny their policies put rapist's rights over women's rights, even when the evidence and logical conclusions say otherwise. Make them deny it over and over again so they don't even have time for their usual lies.

120 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 8:51:27pm

re: #84 Zionist Lord of Remulak

*smooch* Glad to see you back! *smooch*

121 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 8:58:02pm

Charles Johnson,

If Fox News is the Liberal Media, I'm the queen of England. I agree, Todd Akin doesn't live in reality.

122 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 10:00:41pm

re: #104 dragonath

Understatement of the year.

The T-6000 Romneybot will be liquid derp and quickly reform image regardless of the damage inflicted upon it. And it will not stop campaigning, ever!

123 steve_davis  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:16:16am

re: #33 b_sharp

Anyone know anything about the RWNJ talking point that the Dems funded Akin because they knew they could beat him?

That's not just a right-wing talking point. Claire McCaskill's campaign spent something like 2 million dollars helping Akin win the primary, on the idea that he was the most beatable. Until a couple of days ago, that wasn't necessarily looking that smart.


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