2012 Democratic Convention, Day 3: Obama’s Speech
[Live event concluded.]
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4 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:26:08pm |
"And yes, you do have to go to school in the morning."
6 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:27:08pm |
The RNC wishes they had this enthusiasm... not until they clear out the looney bin
7 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:27:09pm |
Man, the older girl looks like she's taller than Michelle.
12 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:29:03pm |
Very strong opening. Leg not tingling but this is pretty good.
14 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:29:06pm |
Okay, just put it on. Just got done watching the best baseball game of my life. Sounds great so far.
15 | Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:29:19pm |
Obama: "If you're sick of hearing me say 'I approve this message,' believe me, so am I."— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) September 7, 2012
16 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:29:40pm |
LOL, I know this look well:
When the Prez. said they had to go to school tomorrow, Sasha's expression was like, "Dang!"
17 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:29:44pm |
"YOU COULDN'T FIND AN AMERICAN BAND?" - Republicans #U2— Nina Bargiel (@slackmistress) September 7, 2012
21 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:31:41pm |
Let this tweet prove that I'm not actually @barackobama, in case you were wondering. I'm still the "clear choice" though. #DNC2012— Invisible Obama (@InvisibleObama) September 7, 2012
22 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:31:56pm |
23 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:32:02pm |
Obama: "The truth gets buried under an avalanche of money and advertising." What can you do? Donate to FactCheck. bit.ly/R2EFxz#DNC— Fact Check (@factcheckdotorg) September 7, 2012
25 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:32:25pm |
"Got a cold? Take two tax cuts and deregulation and call us in the morning."
30 | celticdragon Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:33:11pm |
Kicking students off financial aid...doesn't help.
31 | Jadewater Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:33:20pm |
Jeez freaky. Two of my cats are now sitting on the couch staring at the tv.
O.O
32 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:33:43pm |
re: #31 Jadewater
Jeez freaky. Two of my cats are now sitting on the couch staring at the tv.
O.O
OMEN
33 | bratwurst Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:34:03pm |
Politifact says that Obama WAS a younger man 4 years ago. They are rating that statement as "mostly true".— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) September 7, 2012
34 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:34:07pm |
35 | Tigger2 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:34:22pm |
re: #31 Jadewater
Jeez freaky. Two of my cats are now sitting on the couch staring at the tv.
O.O
Smart Democratic cats.
36 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:34:40pm |
Paul Ryan: Imma let you finish Mr. President but first could I get some secret ObamaCare funds nationalmemo.com/paul-ryan-requ...— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) September 7, 2012
38 | Jadewater Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:34:48pm |
39 | engineer cat Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:35:33pm |
got a headache?
quotable president is quotable
41 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:35:42pm |
A lot of the debate talk has centered on Biden vs Ryan.....but good lord, Obama is going to destroy Romney.
42 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:36:17pm |
re: #41 JamesWI
A lot of the debate talk has centered on Biden vs Ryan.....but good lord, Obama is going to destroy Romney.
I'll bet 10K
43 | steve_davis Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:36:23pm |
re: #14 HappyWarrior
Okay, just put it on. Just got done watching the best baseball game of my life. Sounds great so far.
I'm sorry. The best ball game of your life was the one where Sid Bream beat a tag at home to put the Braves in the World Series. You may have missed it, but I promise you it's true! :-)
44 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:36:46pm |
Wait, I thought you were supposed to chant "USA!" when accusing the other side of not knowing what it means to be American?
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45 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:37:15pm |
re: #44 Targetpractice
Wait, I thought you were supposed to chant "USA!" when accusing the other side of not knowing what it means to be American?
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Or against anything French. I remember.
46 | Jadewater Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:37:35pm |
re: #44 Targetpractice
Wait, I thought you were supposed to chant "USA!" when accusing the other side of not knowing what it means to be American?
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I was just going to say that that comment was where chanting that works.
47 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:37:36pm |
The debates...
I will enjoy them...
(Cone-head voice off)
49 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:37:54pm |
He's gone a bit thin on details but he's not overselling it. Still not bad.
51 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:37:59pm |
CA started that! (fuel efficiency)
55 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:38:29pm |
Could someone confirm for me: did Obama just do Michael Keaton's speech from GUNG HO? #DNC— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) September 7, 2012
57 | Jadewater Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:38:49pm |
re: #52 Locker
You aren't allowed to chant USA unless you are wearing a pin.
Oh really?
'USA USA USA'
58 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:39:08pm |
Let's face it: Obama is right that some righties prescribe tax cuts as solution to any conceivable problem.— Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) September 7, 2012
59 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:39:20pm |
"Unlike my opponent, I will not let the oil companies dictate our energy policy"......burn.
60 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:39:23pm |
re: #57 Jadewater
I KNEW you were a pin wearing Republican! Fox in the hen house!!
61 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:39:38pm |
62 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:40:01pm |
Ripping on Romney's "jokes" about climate change.....very nice.
64 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:40:13pm |
re: #43 steve_davis
I'm sorry. The best ball game of your life was the one where Sid Bream beat a tag at home to put the Braves in the World Series. You may have missed it, but I promise you it's true! :-)
That may be but the O's didn't get back into first place with that. Sweating big time here haha.
65 | prairiefire Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:40:28pm |
Gott damn, finally something on climate change.
67 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:40:45pm |
re: #61 Killgore Trout
Positive vision makes a lot of difference.
Yep. Always make it about, focus on, what you can do well rather than what other people are doing wrong.
69 | Jadewater Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:41:13pm |
70 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:41:18pm |
That was the strongest I ever heard him talk about climate change.
71 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:41:31pm |
He's nailing it here. I feel sorry for Romney because he's going to be feeling like he did when he debated Ted Kennedy in 1994.
72 | bubba zanetti Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:41:48pm |
"Dream deferred" - I saw what you did there...
73 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:42:09pm |
There he goes again, hiring more teachers when we've got too many as it is!
74 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:42:14pm |
re: #70 Gus
That was the strongest I ever heard him talk about climate change.
Cue the wingnuts freaking out about Al Gore because of it.
75 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:42:17pm |
President Obama: "My plan will continue to reduce the carbon pollution that is heating our planet--because climate change is not a hoax."— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) September 7, 2012
76 | prairiefire Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:42:25pm |
Ha, Malia doesn't want to go to school tomorrow.
77 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:42:41pm |
real details as to what he has done and what he intends to do...thats refreshing.
78 | recusancy Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:43:05pm |
"Honey, get in here! The chair's on TV and it's yelling!" -- Clint Eastwood, right now— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) September 7, 2012
79 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:43:20pm |
We doesn't need no mar teechairs!
81 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:43:33pm |
He said "Tal-e-bon"... I love when he pronounces that an Pok-e-ston" correctly... :-)
82 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:44:17pm |
And he brings up the troops now. This normally wouldn't mean much but the fact that Romney didn't even mention them makes this powerful..
84 | jhrhv Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:45:02pm |
This speech is already exponentially better than Romneys.
85 | Iwouldprefernotto Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:45:06pm |
re: #82 HappyWarrior
And he brings up the troops now. This normally wouldn't mean much but the fact that Romney didn't even mention them makes this powerful..
I bet during the debates every other word out of Romney's mouth will be Troops.
86 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:45:17pm |
re: #83 austin_blue
So far, meh.
Yeah. I love him, but Bill really grabbed me by the balls. This doesn't come all that close.
87 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:45:43pm |
re: #84 jhrhv
This speech is already exponentially better than Romneys.
Once he walked on stage he was exponentially better than Romney. He could have sat on a chair and fell asleep :-)
93 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:46:23pm |
re: #85 Iwouldprefernotto
I bet during the debates every other word out of Romney's mouth will be Troops.
Even when it is not appropriate to the question :-)
95 | danarchy Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:46:26pm |
re: #86 Mocking Jay
Yeah. I love him, but Bill really grabbed me by the balls. This doesn't come all that close.
Didn't know he swung that way, but it is nice of him to give the reach around. *thanks I'll be here all week*
96 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:46:31pm |
re: #85 Iwouldprefernotto
I bet during the debates every other word out of Romney's mouth will be Troops.
nope. every 3 words. I think it will sound something like:
God, troops, women, god, troops, women.....
97 | Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:46:35pm |
Obama: "My opponent and his running mate are ... new ... to foreign policy."— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) September 7, 2012
98 | sagehen Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:46:56pm |
ooh, he went there.
"You might not be ready for Beijing if you can't go to the Olympics without insulting our closest ally."
100 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:47:29pm |
This is the speech you give when you think you're winning and just want to avoid screwing up.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 7, 2012
101 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:47:33pm |
Who is this guy and what did he do with President Obama?
102 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:47:39pm |
re: #98 sagehen
ooh, he went there.
"You might not be ready for Beijing if you can't go to the Olympics without insulting our closest ally."
I am glad he did. Really, he offended a man who has a real chance of being his British counterpart.
104 | The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:47:53pm |
re: #92 JamesWI
Romney "stuck in a Cold-War mind-warp"....ha!
The Cold War mind-warp is a step to the left, and then a jump to the right.
105 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:48:29pm |
re: #31 Jadewater
Jeez freaky. Two of my cats are now sitting on the couch staring at the tv.
O.O
Obama is mind-controlling them. Soon, they will rise up, and enforce feline atheist sharia on us all.
106 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:48:34pm |
The speech is a good one. He did not need soaring rhetoric, as that is what the GOP will attack. He needs to do what he is doing. Outline his achievements, outline the path he intends to follow with details. The speech is not the most exciting. But it is the most important.
108 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:49:25pm |
re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist
You just made me wake up my wife with a "What the HELL is so funny?!"
109 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:49:50pm |
re: #83 austin_blue
So far, meh.
the opening was really strong, it's dropped off considerably since then.
110 | The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:50:22pm |
re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist
Obama is mind-controlling them. Soon, they will rise up, and enforce feline atheist sharia on us all.
I, for one, welcome our new kitty-hijabed feline overlords.
111 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:50:33pm |
re: #106 Petero1818
The speech is a good one. He did not need soaring rhetoric, as that is what the GOP will attack. He needs to do what he is doing. Outline his achievements, outline the path he intends to follow with details. The speech is not the most exciting. But it is the most important.
yep. Those with him are there, the waverers, perfect.
112 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:50:43pm |
re: #81 diamonda2u
He said "Tal-e-bon"... I love when he pronounces that an Pok-e-ston" correctly... :-)
But he still says "Af-gan-i-stan" with three short flat "a"s.
113 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:51:28pm |
re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist
But he still says "Af-gan-i-stan" with three short flat "a"s.
Interesting.
115 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:51:46pm |
Following along on the Guardian's live UK commentary. It's interesting to hear the comments from a Euro perspective:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
116 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:51:59pm |
"Borrow money from your parents".....Obama showing how you can attack your opponent without turning your entire speech into an "Anti-the other guy" speech.
117 | jhrhv Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:52:08pm |
We are witnessing a man who knows how to campaign. He is his own best sales person.
120 | abolitionist Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:52:47pm |
My Youtube "live feed" is delayed by more than 7 minutes.
121 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:53:09pm |
He's captivatingly Kenyan, y'all.— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) September 7, 2012
123 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:54:04pm |
My dream President is Elizabeth Warren. I can't imagine a better thing for our country than to have her in charge.
125 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:54:10pm |
re: #93 diamonda2u
Even when it is not appropriate to the question :-)
Well, as I tell the kids when I prep them for the SAT essay, "The answer is always George Washington."
(I encourage them to have one historical figure or event they know a lot about that they can reference no matter what the prompt is. George works well.)
126 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:54:23pm |
I like that alternative take on Reagan's government is the problem. "We don't believe government is the solution to all our problems but we don't believe it is the cause of all our problems." Yes, Mr. President, yes.
127 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:54:39pm |
"We don't think the government can solve all of our problems, but we also don't think the government is the source of all our problems".....awesome.
And then he follows it up by blasting Republican bigotry......
129 | Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:55:16pm |
Obama calling out right wing fear mongering. A beautiful moment.— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) September 7, 2012
132 | Sionainn Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:55:53pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, as I tell the kids when I prep them for the SAT essay, "The answer is always George Washington."
(I encourage them to have one historical figure or event they know a lot about that they can reference no matter what the prompt is. George works well.)
I used to play Trivial Pursuit with a group of friends on a weekly basis. "Aretha Franklin" was our fall back answer.
133 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:56:07pm |
Obama points out that the GOP is actually the party obsessed with government by blaming it for everything. #dnc2012— Baratunde (@baratunde) September 7, 2012
135 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:56:46pm |
re: #132 Sionainn
I used to play Trivial Pursuit with a group of friends on a weekly basis. "Aretha Franklin" was our fall back answer.
Mine was Steve McQueen. If they asked about an actor and I didn't know the answer, he was the fall back.
136 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:56:48pm |
It's refreshing when a candidate talks about something other than how horrible his opponent is.
137 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:56:52pm |
"You did that".....maybe playing on "You built that"?
138 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:56:53pm |
Heh. Giving the American people credit for his accomplishments. Nice.
139 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:56:54pm |
This is nice. The infusion of soaring rhetoric while refuting charges against him and presenting facts along the way. Its a good mix.
140 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:57:02pm |
He's really exploiting Romney's forgetting of the troops by showing a lot of genuine gratitude to them.
141 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:58:19pm |
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
142 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:58:20pm |
The Republicans will never admit it but when it comes to his optimism and faith in the American people, Barack Obama is more like Reagan than anyone they've put up for the job since then.
144 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:58:22pm |
re: #136 Targetpractice
It's refreshing when a candidate talks about something other than how horrible his opponent is.
Romney hates that Obama isn't spending more time talking about him.
146 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:59:43pm |
"My name is Andrew Sheppard and I AM the President" - Andrew Sheppard
148 | diamonda2u Thu, Sep 6, 2012 7:59:56pm |
re: #146 Locker
"My name is Andrew Sheppard and I AM the President" - Andrew Sheppard
My thought exactly!
149 | Iwouldprefernotto Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:00:17pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
It's not pandering of it's what you believe.
150 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:02:39pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
Magic 8 Ball says:
"Bzzt. Game Over. Please check for reds under bed."
152 | gwangung Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:03:17pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
Hitting the planks in the platform of Democratic Party is anything BUT pandering.
154 | jhrhv Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:03:18pm |
If he intended to come off as an intelligent and compassionate person that cares about America and Americans he's nailing it.
158 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:04:00pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
He spent roughly 3o minutes laying out what he has accomplished and laying out key strategic initiatives that remain to be fulfilled. That is roughly 30 minutes more than Romney spent on specifics.
159 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:04:32pm |
Oh yeah. Some Springsteen to play us out...
160 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:04:37pm |
Ooh. "We Take Care of Our Own" by Springsteen as his closing song.
Nice!
161 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:04:42pm |
Good speech. Can't wait for the debates.
162 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:05:00pm |
re: #158 Petero1818
He spent roughly 3o minutes laying out what he has accomplished and laying out key strategic initiatives that remain to be fulfilled. That is roughly 30 minutes more than Romney spent on specifics.
Do not feed the troll.
Merci?
164 | Sionainn Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:06:21pm |
I just read that Obama is coming to my city on Wednesday. Details haven't been released yet, but I think I'm going to try to get in to see him.
165 | Iwouldprefernotto Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:06:35pm |
re: #158 Petero1818
He spent roughly 3o minutes laying out what he has accomplished and laying out key strategic initiatives that remain to be fulfilled. That is roughly 30 minutes more than Romney spent on specifics.
I think Romney spent negative time on specifics.
166 | BongCrodny Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:06:43pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
You aren't watching the same program the rest of us are watching, are you?
169 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:07:00pm |
He didn't flub his speech? Inconceivable!
170 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:07:12pm |
171 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:07:14pm |
re: #167 Lidane
OK. I don't know country music. Who is this song by?
Country? I thought it was Bruce Springsteen. Ahhh I'm behind in the feed....
172 | engineer cat Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:07:21pm |
republican speeches move the crowd to anger; democratic speeches move the crowd to tears
176 | sagehen Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:07:51pm |
re: #167 Lidane
OK. I don't know country music. Who is this song by?
It's not country, it's BRUUUUUUCE!!
177 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:07:56pm |
re: #171 Locker
Country? I thought it was Bruce Springsteen.
They went from Springsteen to some country song after that.
It sounds like Alan Jackson but I'm not sure.
178 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:08:10pm |
Well, I guess I missed it, having just returned from my walk.
But... country music?
179 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:08:16pm |
Obama's oldest is almost as tall as he is.
182 | jhrhv Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:08:44pm |
Romney Ryan or Obama Biden. Seems like a no brainer.
183 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:08:52pm |
Obama and Biden celebrating to"Only In America" -- theme song of Bush-Cheney '04— Bill Adair (@AdairPolitiFact) September 7, 2012
184 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:09:00pm |
re: #178 freetoken
Well, I guess I missed it, having just returned from my walk.
But... country music?
Hey, if they can steal patriotism from the GOP why not country too?
185 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:09:37pm |
Any guesses on what the President's bounce will be?
186 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:09:45pm |
re: #178 freetoken
Well, I guess I missed it, having just returned from my walk.
But... country music?
Booger eating, bible thumping, gun toting southern redneck bigots vote too.
187 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:08pm |
188 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:22pm |
People like to be explicitly asked for their vote, especially towards the end of a nominating speech. That was smart. Romney didn't do that.
He really made Romney pay for not mentioning the troops.
189 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:24pm |
My eyes filled with tears of joy and hope. We need this man at this time.— Roger Ebert (@ebertchicago) September 7, 2012
190 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:28pm |
Jon Stewart showing the difference between Clinton talking numbers and specifics, while the Republicans just say "Hey, we're going to solve the problems, trust us!"
192 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:36pm |
Maybe I'll watch the speech later. How long was it?
193 | ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:46pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
What was the pandering?
194 | Jadewater Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:46pm |
I added some color commentary after some of his comments. I found myself talking to the screen. "So yeah f**k you crazy people". I yelled it after made the comment calling out all the bigotry and blaming people.
195 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:10:59pm |
196 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:11:03pm |
More specific than Romney. Focused and more positive. Patriotic. Visionary. #DNC2012 #Forward2012— Gus (@Gus_802) September 7, 2012
197 | Digital Display Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:11:05pm |
Well.. Changed from C-Span to scroll through all the pundits on cable..
198 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:11:13pm |
Here's the secret of American politics: The online gambling sites do the best prognostications. One, Intrade, puts POTUS's chances at 59.3%— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) September 7, 2012
199 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:11:14pm |
re: #192 freetoken
Maybe I'll watch the speech later. How long was it?
Didn't seem that long. 20 minutes? 15?
200 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:00pm |
re: #199 Locker
I'll go with the 45 minutes that Mocking Jay offered. 15 minutes is way too short for a nomination speech.
201 | steve_davis Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:01pm |
re: #106 Petero1818
The speech is a good one. He did not need soaring rhetoric, as that is what the GOP will attack. He needs to do what he is doing. Outline his achievements, outline the path he intends to follow with details. The speech is not the most exciting. But it is the most important.
Maybe way too obvious to even mention, but the fact that he had an area of the speech dedicated to change, and an area dedicated to hope, just was masterful. As I've said elsewhere, Obama doesn't play chess. He plays Go. And Go is a game where for most of the time, the person who is winning often is doing so in ways that only extremely skilled players recognize. Often, territory gets ceded somewhere so that goals can be achieved elsewhere. And the president is the best I have ever seen at taking an opponent's talking points and actually using them to his strength. He even had other speakers get into the whole "are you better off than you were four years ago?" and show that yes, indeed, we are.
202 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:12pm |
re: #199 Locker
Didn't seem that long. 20 minutes? 15?
I believe the talking heads on PBS put it at 38 minutes.
204 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:15pm |
Obama and Biden celebrating to"Only In America" -- theme song of Bush-Cheney '04— Bill Adair (@AdairPolitiFact) September 7, 2012
206 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:33pm |
207 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:36pm |
re: #193 ElCapitanAmerica
What was the pandering?
Pandering is the opposite of leading. Talking about hard truths while telling the audience what they want to hear is pandering. He played it safe.
208 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:39pm |
I loved his talk about citizenship; its an alien concept to the current GOP you are on your own cause I've got mine mindset.
209 | jhrhv Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:46pm |
re: #188 goddamnedfrank
People like to be explicitly asked for their vote, especially towards the end of an nominating speech. That was smart. Romney didn't do that.
He really made Romney pay for not mentioning the troops.
Sales person 101 you have to ask for the sales. You would think the business bot running on the GOP ticket would know that.
210 | engineer cat Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:48pm |
i needed that - every four years i feel like i am being inspired by good old democratic religion
working together for a better life for all of us in the land of the free and the home of the brave
211 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:12:55pm |
That was an amazing speech by @barackobama. I couldn't have said it better myself. Literally. #DNC2012— Invisible Obama (@InvisibleObama) September 7, 2012
That was my favorite presidential speech since Bill Pullman inspired me to fight aliens.— Brian Lynch (@BrianLynch) September 7, 2012
212 | gwangung Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:13:09pm |
re: #207 Killgore Trout
Pandering is the opposite of leading. Talking about hard truths while telling the audience what they want to hear is pandering. He played it safe.
This is exactly wrong.
213 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:13:15pm |
re: #203 Locker
Holy crap I've no sense of time's passage...
My guess was a little off because I couldn't remember exactly when the video ended and he started, but the video began at 10:15.
214 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:13:21pm |
re: #207 Killgore Trout
Pandering is the opposite of leading. Talking about hard truths while telling the audience what they want to hear is pandering. He played it safe.
See there is "trying to win" and then there is "pleasing Killgore Trout". I'm gonna go with option 1.
215 | spiderx Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:13:26pm |
John King concern trolling on CNN. Is this guy the worst political pundit ever?
216 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:13:41pm |
Look at all those God-hating liberals bowing their heads in prayer.
217 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:13:55pm |
re: #207 Killgore Trout
Pandering is part of the job when one is rallying one's own troops. Speaking hard truths is rare for a politician, and they tend to sneak up on the truth only in the most urgent of situations.
218 | Charles Johnson Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:14:10pm |
This really hits a wrong note with me, closing with a Catholic official who helped protect pedophile priests.
219 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:14:18pm |
re: #215 spiderx
John King concern trolling on CNN. Is this guy the worst political pundit ever?
That depends. Do you count Dick Morris as a political pundit?
220 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:14:21pm |
re: #214 Locker
See there is "trying to win" and then there is "pleasing Killgore Trout". I'm gonna go with option 1.
You choose wisely, grasshopper.
221 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:14:58pm |
Steve Schmidt: "I don't think the Dems could have possibly done a better job this week at building the case for the President's reelection."— Jonathan Singer (@jonathanhsinger) September 7, 2012
222 | engineer cat Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:15:33pm |
and now a closing benediction from a cast member of The Name Of The Rose
223 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:15:36pm |
re: #218 Charles Johnson
That was my first thought, too.
Yet I realize there are many Catholics in the swing states of Ohio, Wisconsin, New Mexico, etc.
Having a Buddhist closer probably wouldn't have worked.
224 | BongCrodny Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:15:43pm |
re: #207 Killgore Trout
Pandering is the opposite of leading. Talking about hard truths while telling the audience what they want to hear is pandering. He played it safe.
It's a convention, not the State of the Union address.
225 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:15:48pm |
re: #218 Charles Johnson
This really hits a wrong note with me, closing with a Catholic official who helped protect pedophile priests.
Yeah, I was gong to mention that too but decided not to. On the bright side, he's not a Muslim, so we got that going for us...which is nice.
227 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:16:20pm |
re: #193 ElCapitanAmerica
What was the pandering?
The part where he told Scarlett Johansen and Rosario Dawson to call me because I'm handsome and well hung. I was impressed by that, he's got my vote.
228 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:16:46pm |
re: #223 freetoken
Having a Buddhist closer probably wouldn't have worked.
They would just start it up all over again...
230 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:17:23pm |
re: #218 Charles Johnson
This really hits a wrong note with me, closing with a Catholic official who helped protect pedophile priests.
Just like the GOP. It's a sad commentary on our society.
231 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:17:27pm |
232 | Locker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:17:43pm |
re: #223 freetoken
That was my first thought, too.
Yet I realize there are many Catholics in the swing states of Ohio, Wisconsin, New Mexico, etc.
Having a Buddhist closer probably wouldn't have worked.
Hey... I would have loved the Dalai Lama to close but he would have just told us it doesn't matter who wins and to meditate on impermanence.
233 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:17:45pm |
re: #228 Kragar
They would just start it up all over again...
That would be the Hindu closer... but they didn't do that either.
234 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:18:05pm |
Earlier today:
Jim Garlow says there are '61 days of America left' until it becomes permanently unrecognizable if Obama is re-elected: bit.ly/UvdShX— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 6, 2012
Jim Garlow says future historians will honor Tony Perkins & Tim Wildmon for the key role they played in saving America: bit.ly/UvdShX— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 6, 2012
Just now:
Obama has the gall of saying he goes to his knees (while defying God's Word) God help us!God help us! Jesus Son of David, have mercy on us.— Jim Garlow (@JimGarlow) September 7, 2012
235 | Mich-again Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:18:18pm |
I have a smalltime blog called pathteacher so I was thought it was cool the President used the path reference a few times..
236 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:18:18pm |
Freedom. Patriotism mentioned by Caroline Kennedy. See, I knows what I'm talking about.
237 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:18:28pm |
Like last night, a few joke around by voting "No" to adjourning the convention.
238 | ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:18:54pm |
The country soundtrack, the African American family: an American mashup.— jodikantor (@jodikantor) September 7, 2012
239 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:18:59pm |
re: #208 aagcobb
I loved his talk about citizenship; its an alien concept to the current GOP you are on your own cause I've got mine mindset.
Citizenship was the best word. We ALL know that from basic school. We all relate. Well, cept for those other peeps, who forget.
241 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:19:40pm |
re: #234 Lidane
Earlier today:
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My only question is.....who the hell is Jim Garlow?
242 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:19:45pm |
I noticed the President used "she" a lot. He was strongly focused on strengthening his lead with women.
243 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:19:53pm |
244 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:19:58pm |
re: #234 Lidane
Earlier today:
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I didn't know Jesus was reading twitter nowadays...
247 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:20:30pm |
Jim Garlow says there are '61 days of America left' until it becomes permanently unrecognizable if Obama is re-elected
It's amazing how America is always on the verge, but never actually goes down the drain.
248 | Sionainn Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:20:40pm |
249 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:20:42pm |
250 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:20:53pm |
re: #246 Gus
Right wingers are confused about liberals.
Well, liberals are confused about liberals too, so I guess they have something in common.
251 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:20:55pm |
They think we're all the same. That we're all these pacifist hippies.
252 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:21:11pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
Jim Garlow says there are '61 days of America left' until it becomes permanently unrecognizable if Obama is re-elected
It's amazing how America is always on the verge, but never actually goes down the drain.
Isn't it? FDR had it right in his first inaugural- This great nation will endure as it has endured.
253 | Sophia77 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:21:13pm |
I thought it was fantastic. The whole convention has given me a huge lift. Biden was wonderful, Obama was outta there.
Everybody, get your friends and relatives to the polls.
254 | engineer cat Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:21:15pm |
255 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:21:22pm |
re: #250 freetoken
Well, liberals are confused about liberals too, so I guess they have something in common.
Yeah. But I'm being focused here.
256 | jaunte Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:21:26pm |
re: #241 JamesWI
My only question is.....who the hell is Jim Garlow?
Jim Garlow... is a leader in the "pulpit freedom" movement, which insists that pastors should be free to carry out political advocacy from the pulpit in defiance of Internal Revenue Service regulations
257 | engineer cat Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:21:49pm |
re: #250 freetoken
Well, liberals are confused about liberals too, so I guess they have something in common.
"a liberal is someone who is too broadminded to agree with himself"
258 | BongCrodny Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:22:03pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
Jim Garlow says there are '61 days of America left' until it becomes permanently unrecognizable if Obama is re-elected
It's amazing how America is always on the verge, but never actually goes down the drain.
Jim's been hanging out with Chuck Norris too much.
259 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:22:07pm |
re: #251 Gus
They think we're all the same. That we're all these pacifist hippies.
Who don't have jobs. That's one of their favorite to throw at liberals that we're unemployed and living off the government dime.
260 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:22:35pm |
Think Vice President Obama will make a good attack dog for President Clinton this fall.
— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) September 7, 2012
261 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:22:39pm |
The speech might seem blah to some folks but the Obama speech has fantastic clips.
263 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:23:14pm |
As I said it earlier, it must kill them to know that Obama when it comes to selling optimism and faith in the American people is more like Ronald Reagan than anyone they've put in the years since.
264 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:23:25pm |
re: #256 jaunte
Garlow took over as head of a local church here in the San Diego area, from a guy who was a bit more likable. It's one of the largest churches in the area, and under Garlow has become more fundamentalist (and more corporate too.)
I tried to date a woman once, who went to that church.
265 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:23:29pm |
re: #256 jaunte
Jim Garlow... is a leader in the "pulpit freedom" movement, which insists that pastors should be free to carry out political advocacy from the pulpit in defiance of Internal Revenue Service regulations
Just pay taxes then.
266 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:23:48pm |
re: #241 JamesWI
My only question is.....who the hell is Jim Garlow?
Senior pastor of a megachurch in California. Super active in the Prop 8 fight and one of those raving "pulpit freedom" lunatics who thinks that preachers should be able to talk politics from the pulpit while staying tax free.
267 | jaunte Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:23:48pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
Jim Garlow says there are '61 days of America left' until it becomes permanently unrecognizable if Obama is re-elected
It's amazing how America is always on the verge, but never actually goes down the drain.
Garlow's followers can probably stave off the end with generous contributions.
268 | Targetpractice Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:24:09pm |
So, I think we're all wondering, did Krauthammer like the speech?
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269 | ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:24:10pm |
A great speech is more than the sum of its parts. Don't think Obama met that standard. Nor Romney last week. Clinton did.— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) September 7, 2012
270 | Steveso Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:24:44pm |
Great speech. Did you notice the people in audience? There were people of all colors, ages, race, nationalities and religions. So unlike the RNC.
271 | BongCrodny Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:25:25pm |
272 | Mich-again Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:25:28pm |
re: #261 Gus
The speech might seem blah to some folks but the Obama speech has fantastic clips.
And that is all that really matters. Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan.. we only know the sound bites..
273 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:25:39pm |
Barack Obama's Speech: 52,757 Tweets Per Minute, 9M Total Democratic Convention Tweets tcrn.ch/Tp9nHF by @thatdrew— TechCrunch (@TechCrunch) September 7, 2012
274 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:09pm |
Obama peak tweets per minute 52,757, a record. Romney peak: 14,289.— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 7, 2012
275 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:22pm |
Garlow is a fascist scumball who longs for the days of scarlet letters and witch burnings.
276 | Mich-again Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:28pm |
re: #268 Targetpractice
So, I think we're all wondering, did Krauthammer like the speech?
///
He's still cutting up the lemons to suck on right before he goes on camera..
277 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:28pm |
I can't help the President with my vote, living in Kentucky, but I did make a contribution to his campaign tonight.
278 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:35pm |
re: #270 Steveso
Great speech. Did you notice the people in audience? There were people of all colors, ages, race, nationalities and religions. So unlike the RNC.
I remember making the comment when Romney walked through the audience, shaking hands with a ton of people along the way......the only non-white person I saw the entire time was the black Secret Service agent walking behind him.
279 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:36pm |
re: #159 Mocking Jay
Oh yeah. Some Springsteen to play us out...
"Play us out?" What is that? I've never heard that.
280 | freetoken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:26:57pm |
Garlow has grown his church business by pressing hot button items, while his predecessors were more into "evangelism" proper. I think it is a good indicator of how fundamentalist American Christianity has changed these past 50 years.
281 | gwangung Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:27:16pm |
re: #241 JamesWI
My only question is.....who the hell is Jim Garlow?
Lemme guess...someone who has the gall to call himself a Christian.
282 | Tigger2 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:27:34pm |
The most retweeted comment tonight was "Made In America"
283 | jaunte Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:27:55pm |
re: #268 Targetpractice
So, I think we're all wondering, did Krauthammer like the speech?
///
He'll say it was a demonstration of fake empathy, and that the President is motivated only by his voracious ego.
285 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:29:01pm |
re: #279 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
"Play us out?" What is that? I've never heard that.
286 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:29:29pm |
Can't wait to see what Colbert has planned for the Clinton speech.
287 | funky chicken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:29:48pm |
re: #256 jaunte
Jim Garlow... is a leader in the "pulpit freedom" movement, which insists that pastors should be free to carry out political advocacy from the pulpit in defiance of Internal Revenue Service regulations
and I think they should be "free" to pay taxes on their income and property
288 | CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:30:13pm |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
He went from a positive and personal opening to pandering all over the map and random buzzwords and catch phrases.
LOL, look, I know even a misanthrope has to get lonely sitting over there with no one but frogs & cats to talk to, but is it really so unbearable to see people here enjoying the speeches that you feel compelled to be such a bag of downers? You've become a caricature. The Grinch. Scrooge. Get a hobby. Or maybe this is your hobby?
People, the DNC has been GREAT. The speeches were wonderful—pretty much everyone knocked it out of the park. If President Obama loses, it won't be because of a poor showing at the DNC. The Dems did the a spectacular job. You have every right to be happy & proud of them.
290 | Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:31:21pm |
re: #288 CuriousLurker
LOL, look, I know even a misanthrope has to get lonely sitting over there with no one but frogs & cats to talk to, but is it really so unbearable to see people here enjoying the speeches that you feel compelled to be such a bag of downers? You've become a caricature. The Grinch. Scrooge. Get a hobby. Or maybe this is your hobby?
People, the DNC has been GREAT. The speeches were wonderful—pretty much everyone knocked it out of the park. If President Obama loses, it won't be becuase of a poor showing at the DNC. The Dems did the a spectacular job. You have every right to be happy & proud of them.
You seem angry.
291 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:31:34pm |
Howard Kurtz offers a concise and IMHO bang on assessment of the speech:
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
293 | Mich-again Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:32:37pm |
Its all about Michigan and Ohio in November.. That's how I always remember it being..
294 | funky chicken Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:33:03pm |
thanks for the summaries, and now I'm off to bed. will watch the speech with my son tomorrow.
295 | Gus Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:33:37pm |
Hands down. The Democrats kicked the GOP's ass with the conventions. No contest.
296 | Mentis Fugit Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:33:37pm |
re: #275 Kragar
Garlow is a fascist scumball who longs for the days of scarlet letters and witch burnings.
In other words, a sweating, seething, farting violation of the second commandment on two legs, and an exemplar of the tragedy that, in America, the moneychangers have taken over the temple.
Am I close?
297 | CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:33:58pm |
re: #290 Killgore Trout
You seem angry.
Nope, just emphatic. If I was angry I'd be cursing. Sorry to disappoint you. I don't come here as much as I used to precisely because I don't want to let you and a couple of others get under my skin.
I just see people letting you sour things and wanted to remind them that they should be proud & happy and not let you sidetrack them or put them on the defensive.
298 | Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:34:01pm |
Wow. That was something. I hope he carries this kind of heat and directness into the "debates".
Also, thank y'all for re-posting Patton Oswalt's tweets... I'm now following him.
299 | Interesting Times Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:34:04pm |
Useless hack Krauthammer is presently trending in the US. Not going to bother to see why. Sick of feeding RWNJ trolls, especially the ones who get paid an obscene amount of money to endlessly blather hatespeech.
300 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:34:25pm |
re: #275 Kragar
Garlow is a fascist scumball who longs for the days of scarlet letters and witch burnings.
So he's your average member of the Republican/Tea Party base.
301 | jaunte Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:34:38pm |
302 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:35:18pm |
The traditional C-Span call-in is spectacularly hilarious.
"I'M FOR MITT ROMNEY AND THERE IS GONNA BE A WAR IN AMERICA AND HE IS NOT A GOOD PRESIDENT AND HE SPENDS TOO MUCH TIME PLAYING GOLF"
303 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:36:33pm |
re: #299 Interesting Times
Useless hack Krauthammer is presently trending in the US. Not going to bother to see why. Sick of feeding RWNJ trolls, especially the ones who get paid an obscene amount of money to endlessly blather hatespeech.
Hopefully it's because people are laughing at how stupid he was for saying that the Obama campaign should have known what the weather was going to be today.
304 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:37:13pm |
re: #302 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
The traditional C-Span call-in is spectacularly hilarious.
"I'M FOR MITT ROMNEY AND THERE IS GONNA BE A WAR IN AMERICA AND HE IS NOT A GOOD PRESIDENT AND HE SPENDS TOO MUCH TIME PLAYING GOLF"
I'm glad I am not listening to that. Just listening to music now.
305 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:37:17pm |
Romney: ‘Americans Will Hold President Obama Accountable’
“Tonight President Obama laid out the choice in this election, making the case for more of the same policies that haven't worked for the past four years. He offered more promises, but he hasn’t kept the promises he made four years ago. Americans will hold President Obama accountable for his record – they know they’re not better off and that it’s time to change direction. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will restore America’s promise and deliver a better future for our country.”
306 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:38:09pm |
307 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:39:15pm |
re: #305 Kragar
And hopefully won't hold the GOP accountable for creating this mess in the first place./
308 | RadicalModerate Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:39:16pm |
re: #234 Lidane
Earlier today:
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So, a guy who considers David Duke fans as his constituency and another who agrees with Todd Akin about what rape is are the "saviors of America"?
309 | Mich-again Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:39:29pm |
Mitt's experience as a businessman was always being the big money guy who flew in for the meeting, bargaining from a position of power in a conference room full of people who were probably smarter than him but needed his money too much to object.
And that got him here. But now he is in way over his head. He is going to wilt in the heat of the debates and campaign against Obama.
311 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:40:41pm |
The GOP wants to play up that Clinton or Mrs. Obama were better. But no one is saying Mitt did. And that's what counts. nationalmemo.com/watch-the-demo...— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) September 7, 2012
312 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:42:18pm |
re: #311 Lidane
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Mitt spoke? Oh, yeah........ But yeah they're in damage control mode and I understand because they know they've nominated someone that doesn't inspire anyone not even their base.
313 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:42:26pm |
314 | Kragar Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:42:35pm |
Hold Obama accountable for killing Bin Laden and the improving economy, but don't mention the 2 wars and deregulation that occurred under the previous GOP administration.
ACCOUNTABILITY!
315 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:42:42pm |
great hire @washingtonpost! #stayclassyJen RT @jrubinblogger Tonight the left discovered what a boring gasbag Obama is— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 7, 2012
316 | jaunte Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:42:46pm |
re: #305 Kragar
'You might not be ready for diplomacy with Beijing if you can't visit the Olympics without insulting our closest ally.'
317 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:43:52pm |
re: #305 Kragar
I thought he said he wasn't going to watch the speech.
CONCORD, N.H. - Mitt Romney said on Thursday he hasn't been watching the Democratic National Convention and has no plans to tune in for President Obama's speech, though he acknowledged that he's heard some details about what the president will address.
Christ, what a petty, two faced lying piece of shit. Either watch the speech and respond to it or don't and shut the fuck up. Letting advisors summarize it and send out a vague non-response is just so much pathetic chickenshit.
318 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:43:57pm |
319 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:44:44pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
I thought he said he wasn't going to watch the speech.
Christ, what a petty, two faced lying piece of shit. Either watch the speech and respond to it or don't and shut the fuck up. Letting advisors summarize it and send out a vague non-response is just so much pathetic chickenshit.
it's the Romney way, Frank. Story of his political career really.
320 | Mich-again Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:45:17pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
Christ, what a petty, two faced lying piece of shit. Either watch the speech and respond to it or don't and shut the fuck up. Letting advisors summarize it and send out a vague non-response is just so much pathetic chickenshit.
That's what I'm talking about.
321 | aagcobb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:45:32pm |
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Mitt spoke? Oh, yeah........ But yeah they're in damage control mode and I understand because they know they've nominated someone that doesn't inspire anyone not even their base.
The base is fired up by its hatred of Obama. Romney's job is to convince enough non-base voters that he is most qualified to be America's CEO President.
322 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:46:20pm |
re: #315 Lidane
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Looking at that blogger's timeline, she's just busy re-tweeting every right-wing pundit saying it was a terrible speech, and repeating the same thing herself.
Too funny.
323 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:46:35pm |
re: #316 jaunte
'You might not be ready for diplomacy with Beijing if you can't visit the Olympics without insulting our closest ally.'
That one had to sting but he was right. Lest it be forgotten that he pissed off two of the most prominent British Conservative party members, the PM and mayor of London, two guys who belong to the British equivalent, well I won't insult the Tories by comparing them to the Republicans. David Cameron after all says he's pro gay marriage because he's a conservative and doesn't engage in xenophobic whistles.
324 | Petero1818 Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:46:38pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
I thought he said he wasn't going to watch the speech.
Christ, what a petty, two faced lying piece of shit. Either watch the speech and respond to it or don't and shut the fuck up. Letting advisors summarize it and send out a vague non-response is just so much pathetic chickenshit.
Because I know that if I had to debate the man for the Presidency of the United States I certainly wouldn't want to watch the speech on which he frames his election campaign. That would just be silly.
325 | Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:46:57pm |
Back from the Obama watch party in Baja Alabama. There are about 5 times more Democrats in town than I figured. It was way cool, politics goes down better with bunch of people and a lot of Yuenglings.
Best line of the night was still "The cars get the elevator..."
327 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:47:15pm |
Here's the test the Republicans are facing, can a campaign successfully run on hate alone, or is a semi likable candidate also required.
328 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:47:17pm |
Dammit. The VP debate is on the first night of NY ComicCon.
329 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:47:22pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
Christ, what a petty, two faced lying piece of shit. Either watch the speech and respond to it or don't and shut the fuck up.
What was it that Kerry said tonight? Mitt Romney doesn't have A position on an issue -- he has EVERY position. Seems about right.
330 | Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:47:23pm |
re: #234 Lidane
Obama has the gall of saying he goes to his knees (while defying God's Word) God help us!God help us! Jesus Son of David, have mercy on us.
It takes a special talent to babble incoherently in a format that only allows 140 characters.
331 | goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:48:32pm |
re: #325 Decatur Deb
Back from the Obama watch party in Baja Alabama. There are about 5 times more Democrats in town than I figured. It was way cool, politics goes down better with bunch of people and a lot of Yuenglings.
Best line of the night was still "The cars get the elevator..."
Yeah, they should print t-shirts and lawn signs of that one.
332 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:48:36pm |
re: #328 Mocking Jay
Dammit. The VP debate is on the first night of NY ComicCon.
Go to ComicCon. The debate will be available online later. Plus, you can read through LGF snark after the fact. Haha.
333 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:48:37pm |
re: #290 Killgore Trout
Now you're going from weak to sad, KT. Pity, you used to have something useful to say. Now? I just wonder when you'll finally flounce.
334 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:49:19pm |
re: #332 Lidane
Go to ComicCon. The debate will be available online later. Plus, you can read through LGF snark after the fact. Haha.
Hmph.
335 | Lidane Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:49:34pm |
Rove describing Dem plan: "you create a false image of who you're running against and then smash it down." Something brass something...— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) September 7, 2012
336 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:50:06pm |
re: #328 Mocking Jay
Dammit. The VP debate is on the first night of NY ComicCon.
Go to Comic Con and have fun. I didn't catch most of the speeches at the DNC because I've been watching rare meaningful baseball but I've been following here. Not everything has to be politics.
337 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:50:55pm |
re: #335 Lidane
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Kind of like the Republicans did all those years ago when they claimed that supporting the Democratic party meant that you supported government involvement in everything huh Karl.
338 | Decatur Deb Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:50:59pm |
re: #331 goddamnedfrank
Yeah, they should print t-shirts and lawn signs of that one.
There are no lawn signs of any kind on my block, and the Democratic campaign coordinator didn't know where to find one in our town. I will levy signs from my kids in the cities.
339 | JamesWI Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:55:51pm |
The way I know the DNC kicked the RNC's ass: Looking at the Yahoo comments section on the story about Obama's speech, the RWNJs are out in serious force, thumbing up every anti-Obama comment into the ratings stratosphere.........while the liberals sit back and know that wingnuts clicking on an electric thumb won't convince people that Romney isn't a soulless robot.
340 | Mocking Jay Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:57:19pm |
341 | HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:57:43pm |
re: #339 JamesWI
The way I know the DNC kicked the RNC's ass: Looking at the Yahoo comments section on the story about Obama's speech, the RWNJs are out in serious force, thumbing up every anti-Obama comment into the ratings stratosphere.........while the liberals sit back and know that wingnuts clicking on an electric thumb won't convince people that Romney isn't a soulless robot.
You mean doing that doesn't work? And writing Nobama repeatedly? Damn! But here's how I know Clinton hit a homer last night. Fox immediately started talking about the Lewinsky scandal.
342 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Thu, Sep 6, 2012 8:58:54pm |
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
I thought he said he wasn't going to watch the speech.
Christ, what a petty, two faced lying piece of shit. Either watch the speech and respond to it or don't and shut the fuck up. Letting advisors summarize it and send out a vague non-response is just so much pathetic chickenshit.
Romney has never been one to let facts stand in his way.
Let him keep practicing for the debates with an empty chair Rob Portman.
343 | alpuz Thu, Sep 6, 2012 9:02:03pm |
re: #290 Killgore Trout
That imaginary fence post is not really creeping deeper. It's all theater and facade. You know how I know? The butt hurt.
344 | S'latch Fri, Sep 7, 2012 6:54:36am |
Bill Clinton really highlighted Barack Obama's short comings to me. I know Bill Clinton can't run again, but if the choice were between Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, I would vote for Bill Clinton. Barack Obama is a very good politician and a talented speaker. But Bill Clinton is just way better all around. He is better at delivering a message, and I bet he still has the magic touch as an executive who gets things done. I can't imagine he lost that talent. But there are no Bill Clintons on the ticket. Anyway, Barack Obama has done a good job. He deserves to win and Mitt Romney does not.