1 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:54:10am

No picking on John McCain on this thread, since he voted for the treaty and also spoke in favor of it.

2 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:54:51am

Charles Johnson,

I saw this yesterday. John Stewart is hilarious. I'm amazed how conservative Republicans could be complaining about this when there's nothing in it that would actually impeded on American Sovereignty, when there isn't even an enforcement mechanism, and them who opposed it, even admitted so.

3 Kragar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:55:14am

"Yeah... Thats the stuff."

4 Locker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:55:27am

Gotta love our governing body being comprised of conspiracy theorists and using said fear to drive our policy. Crazy, scared and weak.

5 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:56:13am

Their hatred of the UN is exceeded only by their hatred of Obama. If that means tossing handicapped people under the bus, then it has to be done in the name of ideological purity.

6 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:56:48am

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

No picking on John McCain on this thread, since he voted for the treaty and also spoke in favor of it.

Even a blind squirrel can find a nut. And speaking of nuts, did you catch what that nut McCain said about Syria's Assad today? He jumbled Assad, Iraq, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan and Benghazi together in a statement that would make Sarah Palin's head spin with disbelief at its stupidity.


But Kudos to Senator McCain for voting for the treaty...the man is such a maverick.

7 Kragar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:57:13am

BEWARE THE ALL POWERFUL UN TREATY THAT OVERWRITES ALL US LAWS WITH NO ACTUAL METHOD TO ENFORCE ITSELF!

8 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:58:02am

Can you post an alternate link? I cannot get this one to open...

9 Locker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:59:31am

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

No picking on John McCain on this thread, since he voted for the treaty and also spoke in favor of it.

For as crazy as he's been acting lately it's not hard to remember that I actually considered him a viable Presidential candidate at one point. Actually right up until the point where he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate.

Even then, his stance in this instance and on torture do garner respect from me and they don't seem to be false or appeasing positions.

10 kirkspencer  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:00:17pm

Pfft. Rock bottom.

Odds are that the senate will have a new filibuster rule come January. Odds are Boehner means it when he says no bill that comes because of that rule will get past the house. Stop and think of the bills that barely passed this year, or that had various shenanigans in the process.

Children's health? Unemployment? Heck, the inevitable disaster relief?

The do-nothing party is in power and doing their best to live up to the name.

11 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:03:11pm

re: #10 kirkspencer

Pfft. Rock bottom.

Odds are that the senate will have a new filibuster rule come January. Odds are Boehner means it when he says no bill that comes because of that rule will get past the house. Stop and think of the bills that barely passed this year, or that had various shenanigans in the process.

Children's health? Unemployment? Heck, the inevitable disaster relief?

The do-nothing party is in power and doing their best to live up to the name.

They were never going to do anything. All the filibuster brouhaha does is provide him with a convenient excuse to be useless.

13 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:04:48pm

re: #9 Locker

For as crazy as he's been acting lately it's not hard to remember that I actually considered him a viable Presidential candidate at one point. Actually right up until the point where he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate.

Even then, his stance in this instance and on torture do garner respect from me and they don't seem to be false or appeasing positions.

Well, considering he was tortured and is partially disabled (I think?), I would hope not.

14 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:06:20pm

Yeah, this is a great piece. He definitely communicated the same vibes I was ranting about yesterday (?).

The UN has no power--they are diplomats. WTF?

I still say it's the recognition of LGBT individuals and women in the treaty that is the reason behind the stupid reasons the GOP put forth.

John Birch Society Drones --One World Government --yeah, yeah.

The GOP is so full of BS. There is no even debating them anymore.

15 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:06:59pm

re: #13 Ghost of Tom Joad

Well, considering he was tortured and is partially disabled (I think?), I would hope not.

Yes, he is still disabled from it and doesn't use it to his advantage. He can't type or use a computer or raise his arm(s) above rib height.

16 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:12:20pm

re: #15 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Yes, he is still disabled from it and doesn't use it to his advantage. He can't type or use a computer or raise his arm(s) above rib height.

Just goes to show what people will or will not support when they've never had to walk in somebody else's shoes.

17 nines09  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:16:44pm

Legion Of Stupidity. It's not rock bottom. They have yet to plumb the absolute depths of derp, dip, and dumb.

18 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:17:46pm

re: #17 nines09

Legion Of Stupidity. It's not rock bottom. They have yet to plumb the absolute depths of derp, dip, and dumb maintaining ideological purity at all costs, to the party and to the nation.

19 erik_t  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:17:48pm

Peak Wingnut is a myth.

20 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:19:35pm

Like the "Death Panel" scares they put forth about Obamacare, insanity or just plain lying. Probably a lot of both.

Like the US or the UN have enough resources to micro-manage everyone's household or the desire to.

21 dragonath  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:20:35pm

re: #14 Holidays are Family Fun Time

The morons at NRO were stuck trying to decide between "the treaty doesn't really matter, why sign it", and "OMG, the UN TAKING UR SOVEREIGNTY"

22 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:21:42pm

Fuck the Republicans in the Senate who voted against this. This is the sort of thing that used to get 90+ votes and would have a lone nut like Jesse Helms oppose it.

23 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:21:53pm

John, we passed rock bottom ages ago. The GOP's since hauled out the blasting powder and rock drills and have been going at it 24/7.

24 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:22:47pm

I'm not sure when we passed rock bottom. The votes against the Franken amendment was a pretty alarming event too though but this is pretty low.

25 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:23:32pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

I'm not sure when we passed rock bottom. The votes against the Franken amendment was a pretty alarming event too though but this is pretty low.

We passed rock bottom when Obama was elected and the crazies showed their stripes.

26 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:24:38pm

re: #25 Holidays are Family Fun Time

We passed rock bottom when Obama was elected and the crazies showed their stripes.

Sure, I guess you could say when the meeting of high ranking congressional Republicans like Ryan met on Obama's inauguration day to detail how they were going to do everything possible to obstruct him.

27 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:25:32pm

re: #25 Holidays are Family Fun Time

We passed rock bottom when Obama was elected and the crazies showed their stripes.

And the GOP refused to distance itself from them, even embraced and empowered them. Now they have the party by the jugular and will not let go until they have dragged it down to their level

28 dragonath  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:25:36pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Helms did a good job dicking over the party moderates when he was in the Senate. He blocked William Weld's nomination to ambassador, even though he had already resigned his Governorship to take it.

29 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:25:45pm

re: #25 Holidays are Family Fun Time

We passed rock bottom when Obama was elected and the crazies showed their stripes.

Nah, we passed way before that. Many of those who have hounded Obama since his very nomination were the same ones who made it their mission to destroy John Kerry in every way possible in '04.

30 bratwurst  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:26:18pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

No picking on John McCain on this thread, since he voted for the treaty and also spoke in favor of it.

And the above is about as close as the ultimate party man can come to defending his party in this case.

31 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:26:37pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Nah, we passed way before that. Many of those who have hounded Obama since his very nomination were the same ones who made it their mission to destroy John Kerry in every way possible in '04.

And they are confused: it worked so well against Kerry, they still refuse to believe that they cannot make it work against Obama.

32 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:27:49pm

re: #28 dragonath

Helms did a good job dicking over the party moderates when he was in the Senate. He blocked William Weld's nomination to ambassador, even though he had already resigned his Senate seat to take it.

I remember reading about him saying he was going to sing "Dixie" to Carol Moseley Braun till she cried. Really, I was never a big Robert Byrd fan but I always laughed at the right wingers who brought up Byrd as proof that the Dems "were the real racists" when Jesse Helms unlike Byrd seem to show no regrets at all for a political career made by racism.

33 kirkspencer  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:28:22pm

I should point out that we will probably see Obama's impeachment in the next couple of years. And I'm still willing to bet they can go lower after that.

34 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:29:12pm

I think the real moment the Republican party started hitting its downward spiral is when Nixon decided to embrace Strom Thurmond and many of the old Dixiecrats and made the Southern Strategy a focal point of his campaign. To me, that's where Nixon goes from merely being Tricky Dick to the biggest dick ever to live in the White House.

35 Kragar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:29:49pm

McConnell Filibusters His Own Bill

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) wanted to prove on Thursday that Democrats don’t have the votes to weaken Congress’ authority on the debt limit. Instead they called his bluff, and he ended up filibustering his own bill.

The legislation, modeled on a proposal McConnell offered last year as a “last-choice option” to avert a U.S. debt default, would permit the president to unilaterally lift the debt ceiling unless Congress mustered a two-thirds majority to stop him.

McConnell brought up the legislation Thursday morning. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) initially objected, seemingly proving the Republican leader’s point that it cannot pass the Senate. But then Reid ran it by his members and, in the afternoon, agreed to hold that same vote. This time it was McConnell who objected.

“The Republican leader objects to his own idea,” Reid declared on the floor. “So I guess we have a filibuster of his own bill.”

Quit wasting people's time, jackass.

36 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:31:48pm

re: #35 Kragar

McConnell Filibusters His Own Bill

Quit wasting people's time, jackass.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the minority leader of the United States Senate. For his next trick he will place his head inside his own asshole.

37 kirkspencer  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:32:48pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Ladies and Gentlemen, the minority leader of the United States Senate. For his next trick he will place his head inside his own asshole.

What, again?

38 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:32:51pm

re: #35 Kragar

McConnell Filibusters His Own Bill

Quit wasting people's time, jackass.

The price of ideological purity.

39 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:33:24pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Ladies and Gentlemen, the minority leader of the United States Senate. For his next trick he will place his head inside his own asshole.

With how squishy his head looks, he might be able to actually do it without using some David Copperfield-type trickery.

40 dragonath  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:34:54pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

There's a blog post about this, one of the best that Hilzoy ever wrote:

Conservatives And Jesse Helms

I haven't written anything about Jesse Helms' death, since I don't like speaking ill of the dead. However: every so often, conservatives wonder: why oh why do people think that the Republican party, and/or the conservative movement, is bigoted? I think that the conservative response to Helms' death ought to settle that debate once and for all.

...

Here are quotes by Jesse Helms himself. As you read them, bear in mind all those lovely quotes above, the ones about how he's a conservative champion, a fighter for conservative ideals, etc. They said it, not me.

“Nothing positive happened to Sodom and Gomorrah,” he said, “and nothing positive is likely to happen to America if our people succumb to the drumbeats of support for the homosexual lifestyle.”

"Mr. Clinton better watch out if he comes down here. He'd better have a bodyguard."

"Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced."

41 erik_t  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:35:09pm

re: #35 Kragar

McConnell Filibusters His Own Bill

Quit wasting people's time, jackass.

The gotcha librul media will surely be right along to mock this motherfucker all the way back to Kentucky. Right?

...right?

42 engineer cat  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:35:25pm

i just keep waiting for the GOP to hit the "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" moment. this was close to it

the success of the teabag party in increasing the number of democratic senators and congresspersons in the last two elections is a good start, though...

43 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:38:57pm

re: #35 Kragar

McConnell Filibusters His Own Bill

Quit wasting people's time, jackass.

He was pulling a page out of the House's playbook earlier, suggesting an amendment to a Russian trade bill that he claims is Obama's fiscal cliff deal proposal, in the hopes that he could get the Democrats to vote against it. Reid said he was having none of that, that this is a serious bill geared towards creating jobs, and dickless...er, McConnell has now declared that it's "proof" that Democrats don't want to be caught voting against Obama's proposal.

44 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:39:20pm

re: #40 dragonath

There's a blog post about this, one of the best that Hilzoy ever wrote:

Conservatives And Jesse Helms

I remember some of the conservatives I knew at the time claiming he really wasn't a racist after he died. Like hell he wasn't. The infamous "Black hands" ad says it all and it makes me cringe knowing that shit happened in or near my lifetime.

45 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:40:17pm

Saw via NFL.com that Harry Reid compared the GOP to the New York Jets. That's being kind to them.

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:41:03pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Saw via NFL.com that Harry Reid compared the GOP to the New York Jets. That's being kind to them.

Personally I think it an insult to the New York Jets.

47 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:41:27pm

re: #42 engineer cat

i just keep waiting for the GOP to hit the "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" moment. this was close to it

the success of the teabag party in increasing the number of democratic senators and congresspersons in the last two elections is a good start, though...

Really, what's left for them? At this point, the only thing I think would surprise me would be for them to call openly for an assassination of the President. Anything less than that I don't think would faze me since I've become so desensitized to their garbage. They just hate everything.

48 Political Atheist  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:41:42pm

Hm. Maybe the Republican Exiles association should start a kind of recovery center. 12 step deprogramming or something.
(Paraphrased as needed)
1. We admit our party led us astray from reality.
2. We admit there is a power greater than the GOP
3. Make a decision to make up your own mind
4. We admit what we believed was wrong.
5. Make amends to our progressive or minority friends we have harmed or spoken poorly of.
6. Take a personal inventory of our thinking and be prepared to admit where we were wrong and act on it.
7. We seek truth through fact gathering and exhibit a first loyalty to facts.
8. Have a political awakening and encourage Republicans to stop what they are doing and seek the truth with us.

(Okay eight steps, the religious stuff in AA does not carry over well)

49 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:42:12pm

re: #47 Ghost of Tom Joad

Really, what's left for them? At this point, the only thing I think would surprise me would be for them to call openly for an assassination of the President. Anything less than that I don't think would faze me since I've become so desensitized to their garbage. They just hate everything.

Yup, showing their devotion to Jesus . . . .

*spit*

50 celticdragon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:43:16pm

re: #12 Kragar

'Barack the Destroyer': Bryan Fischer's Grand Unified Theory of Obama

Fischer blocked me from his twitter feed. Mockery does not amuse him... ;)

51 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:43:53pm

re: #48 Political Atheist

Hm. Maybe the Republican Exiles association should start a kind of recovery center. 12 step deprogramming or something.
(Paraphrased as needed)
1. We admit our party led us astray from reality.
2. We admit there is a power greater than the GOP
3. Make a decision to make up your own mind
4. We admit what we believed was wrong.
5. Make amends to our progressive or minority friends we have harmed or spoken poorly of.
6. Take a personal inventory of our thinking and be prepared to admit where we were wrong and act on it.
7. We seek truth through fact gathering and exhibit a first loyalty to facts.
8. Have a political awakening and encourage Republicans to stop what they are doing and seek the truth with us.

(Okay eight steps, the religious stuff in AA does not carry over well)

Well, first you have to get them to stop drinking in real life. I thoroughly believe the Good Ole Boy Club does nothing without first taking a drink or two.

52 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:44:08pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Personally I think it an insult to the New York Jets.

Yeah, the Jets still could make it to 500 this year.

53 Kragar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:44:52pm

re: #50 celticdragon

Fischer blocked me from his twitter feed. Mockery does not amuse him... ;)

The Devil cannot stand being mocked.

54 engineer cat  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:44:55pm

Jesse Helms

i propose that the states of mississippi and alabama be allowed to implement the wingnut agenda: no federal social services, diversion of public school funds to ignorance schooling, frontier style self policing by personal handguns, etc, etc

and they can see how much they like it and leave the rest of us alone

55 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:46:20pm

re: #53 Kragar

The Devil cannot stand being mocked.

'course, the great trick he ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist. Oh, how I wish Fischer would do the same.

56 engineer cat  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:46:36pm

re: #48 Political Atheist

Hm. Maybe the Republican Exiles association should start a kind of recovery center. 12 step deprogramming or something.
(Paraphrased as needed)
1. We admit our party led us astray from reality.
2. We admit there is a power greater than the GOP
3. Make a decision to make up your own mind
4. We admit what we believed was wrong.
5. Make amends to our progressive or minority friends we have harmed or spoken poorly of.
6. Take a personal inventory of our thinking and be prepared to admit where we were wrong and act on it.
7. We seek truth through fact gathering and exhibit a first loyalty to facts.
8. Have a political awakening and encourage Republicans to stop what they are doing and seek the truth with us.

(Okay eight steps, the religious stuff in AA does not carry over well)

who is this 'reality' person and when is he gonna admit that he's a marxist?

57 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:47:19pm

Their problem is they're delusional enough to think that the American people reject them because they're not conservative enough so they think that their textbook insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results will work. They don't want to deal with the new demographics and realities because they've either ignored or insulted them. That's why you see many a right wing pundit whining about how the country is changing (read less white). Demographic shifts happen all the time though. Once upon a time this country was overwhelmingly Protestant and the ideological ancestors of these people whined about Catholic and Jewish immigrants. They see cultural change as a personal threat to them.

58 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:48:16pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Their problem is they're delusional enough to think that the American people reject them because they're not conservative enough so they think that their textbook insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results will work. They don't want to deal with the new demographics and realities because they've either ignored or insulted them. That's why you see many a right wing pundit whining about how the country is changing (read less white). Demographic shifts happen all the time though. Once upon a time this country was overwhelmingly Protestant and the ideological ancestors of these people whined about Catholic and Jewish immigrants. They see cultural change as a personal threat to them.

Yeah, it's tough when you aren't in control of the world.

Wait, isn't that the basis of Christian Dogma?

:0

59 Big Steve  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:48:23pm

well to balance fairy the partisanship...Tuesday the Supreme Court had a 8-0 ruling (Kagen recusing) on a takings case. Decision on Arkansas Game Commission

Arkansas Game and Fish owns a wildlife management area. There is an Army Corp Dam. The dam releases water according to a schedule. But periodically at the request of farmers the Corp deviates and releases water during peak growing season. However this then floods the forested area of which there are logging rights. The charge was that this was a takings violation meaning the action of the government negatively impacted commercial value and was a taking of property. Lower courts argued that the temporary nature trumped the takings laws. The Supreme Court over-ruled and said even temporary measures could constitute taking. I heard absolutely nothing about this in the media. However does this mean, for example, if a city government closes a road for repair and affects business owners temporarily, those businesses have a takings claim?

60 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:49:56pm

re: #58 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Yeah, it's tough when you aren't in control of the world.

Wait, isn't that the basis of Christian Dogma?

:0

WE"RE OPPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

61 dragonath  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:50:44pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

I think the real moment the Republican party started hitting its downward spiral is when Nixon decided to embrace Strom Thurmond and many of the old Dixiecrats and made the Southern Strategy a focal point of his campaign. To me, that's where Nixon goes from merely being Tricky Dick to the biggest dick ever to live in the White House.

It's a theory of mine that the Republican party started to get weird when they allied with the Conservative Democrats and fundamentalist isolationists in the run up to World War II. It's the synthesis of the whole John Birch movement.

Eisenhower did a lot of to beat that part of the party back- but still, I can't help but think that some of the more amoral forces in the GOP saw that the path to power ran through the racists after they received even less votes than in 1944 vs Truman and Thurmond.

Check out some of the election maps of the South after Nixon won in 1972.

62 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:55:29pm

re: #61 dragonath

It's a theory of mine that the Republican party started to get weird when they allied with the Conservative Democrats and fundamentalist isolationists in the run up to World War II. It's the synthesis of the whole John Birch movement.

Eisenhower did a lot of to beat that part of the party back- but still, I can't help but think that some of the more amoral forces in the GOP saw that the path to power ran through the racists after they received even less votes than in 1944 vs Truman and Thurmond.

Check out some of the election maps of the South after Nixon won in 1972.

Yeah that's true. For me, the final nail in the coffin is Reagan opening his campaign where the three Civil Rights workers were kidnapped and later murdered and talking about "states rights." Really is something to me. Some parties and people seem to evolve as the years go on by but the Republicans to me seem to have devolved. See this treaty. Their 1996 presidential nominee who was also their 1976 vice presidential nominee was a strong supporter of this treaty and they rejected him.

63 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:59:15pm

re: #59 Big Steve

I don't think it works that way, because a local road closure would probably fall under the "speculative" part of the 5th Amendment (I'm assuming this is what they're talking about?) insomuch as the Government isn't directly taking or impacting land owned by that person.

Otherwise, every time there was some form of closure for any reason every business owner within 50 miles could file a claim and gum the shit out of the system. There's also a ruling that states that Takings are invalid when it's determined that the government intervention (intervention...not sure what word to use there) benefits the public in some way.

No time to read that whole decision...but was the logging area (trees) impacted somehow, like in destruction of the property, or just a temporary setback in logging operations? I'd agree some compensation is in order if property was damaged...but if there's a dam there, then they wouldn't have access to that area anyway.

64 aagcobb  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:00:20pm

re: #54 engineer cat

Jesse Helms

i propose that the states of mississippi and alabama be allowed to implement the wingnut agenda: no federal social services, diversion of public school funds to ignorance schooling, frontier style self policing by personal handguns, etc, etc

and they can see how much they like it and leave the rest of us alone

I propose instead that they go to Newt's moon colony and apply for statehood. Then when they exercise their 2d Amendment rights and blow a hole in the dome, they'll all get sucked out into the vacuum of space.//

65 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:01:43pm

re: #64 aagcobb

I propose instead that they go to Newt's moon colony and apply for statehood. Then when they exercise their 2d Amendment rights and blow a hole in the dome, they'll all get sucked out into the vacuum of space.//

[Link: security.blogs.cnn.com...]

Fitting.

66 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:07:10pm

bbl

67 Jolo5309  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:15:11pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Ladies and Gentlemen, the minority leader of the United States Senate. For his next trick he will place his head inside his own asshole.

So he is jamming his head up his ass, pulling it out again and doing this over and over again?

Sounds like he is pro sodomy.

68 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:33:10pm

re: #15 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Yes, he is still disabled from it and doesn't use it to his advantage. He can't type or use a computer or raise his arm(s) above rib height.

He can type, but only with difficulty. When they are with him, his sons and daughters often do his typing for him.

69 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 2:16:05pm

No, not rock bottom.

There will be violence soon. It's happened before.


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