Gov. Bobby Jindal and Creationism

New Orleans Magazine - June 2013
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The most embarrassing controversy is his support for teaching creationism in Louisiana’s public school science classes. It gives the rest of the country a reason to laugh at us, and surely Louisiana has had enough of that kind of derision.

After some prodding on Kotb’s part, Jindal finally came right out and said he has “no problem” with teaching creationism, and its cousin Intelligent Design, in science classes. Though eloquent on other subjects, his reasoning on this subject was so lame that he negated all Louisiana’s advances into the 21st century in a few minutes.

“I believe all of our students should be exposed to the best science,” he answered the first time Kotb asked him if he supports teaching creationism. That answer was the typical evasion tactic that politicians use when put on the spot - giving no answer at all.

Then Jindal floundered around, talking about teaching creationism in non-public schools for a while. He was visibly searching for an answer that would throw a bone to both sides of the controversy. He seemed to know he was in trouble, why he was in trouble and couldn’t decide how to get out of it gracefully.

When he didn’t answer the question directly, Kotb pressed him, and that’s when he finally admitted that he supports teaching creationism along with “the best science,” apparently his term for the dreaded “E” word, evolution. Even though the fossil record of earth and humankind’s development over time confirms gradual changes over thousands of years, there are people out there who refuse to believe it.

Many of Jindal’s conservative base voters are religious literalists, and maybe he is himself, even though he’s a Rhodes Scholar and surely been exposed to the “best science” himself. These religious conservatives have long fought to bring the seven-day creation and Adam and Eve stories to public schools. Moreover, their actions have made it clear they only vote for Republicans who support what they want.

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1 Skip Intro  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:45:57am
After some prodding on Kotb’s part, Jindal finally came right out and said he has “no problem” with teaching creationism, and its cousin Intelligent Design, in science classes.

They’re not cousins, they’re identical twins, with the ID one wearing glasses to try to appear more intellectual than its goofball twin.

2 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:15:13am

How does anyone voting for the GOP fool themselves into thinking this helps the US? I’m talking about the non-biblical literalists, obviously. How did it happen that the GOP looked at creationism and decided ‘we can live with that’?

There couldn’t be an attitude more likely to reduce the US’s prosperity and power.

3 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:18:59am

Evolution: non-fiction.

Creationism or intelligent design: fiction.

It’s just that simple.

4 Kragar  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:19:12am

“I believe all of our students should be exposed to the best science,”

Like alchemy, trepanation, and the application of leeches to balance bodily humours.

5 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:20:22am

re: #4 Kragar

“I believe all of our students should be exposed to the best science,”

Like alchemy, trepanation, and the application of leeches to balance bodily humours.

Astrology and its impact on human behavior 101. //

6 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:22:11am

I believe that man needs an emergency exorcism! //

7 Kragar  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:24:50am

re: #6 Gus

I believe that man needs an emergency exorcism! //

GET THAT MAN A SNAKE!

8 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:25:24am

re: #7 Kragar

GET THAT MAN A SNAKE!

A talking snake!

9 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:25:48am
10 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:33:01am

Remember folks, the Beltway still thinks this guy is presidential timber.

11 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:33:22am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Dumb right wingers think that if one identifies with “teh left” that means they agree with everyone on “teh left.”

12 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:33:54am

re: #10 Targetpractice

Remember folks, the Beltway still thinks this guy is presidential timber.

Absolutely - he’s going to be running for President in 2016, no doubt about it.

13 Kragar  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:35:15am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Absolutely - he’s going to be running for President in 2016, no doubt about it.

Please proceed.

14 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:36:35am

re: #10 Targetpractice

Remember folks, the Beltway still thinks this guy is presidential timber.

“Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C. …wasteful spending the “$140 million” [allocated] for something called ‘volcano monitoring.’”
— Bobby Jindal

15 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:37:13am

What is this volcano monitoring? Is it anything like mermaid biology?
— Bobby Jindal

16 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:38:49am

re: #14 Gus

“Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C. …wasteful spending the “$140 million” [allocated] for something called ‘volcano monitoring.’”
— Bobby Jindal

And less than a month later, an Alaskan volcano had a massive eruption that disrupted air traffic around the world.

Bobby Jindal’s Volcano Monitoring Slam Backfires

17 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:39:16am

re: #14 Gus

I hear they waste money on tornado tracking too, can you believe it?

18 gwangung  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:39:21am
“I believe all of our students should be exposed to the best science,”

THen you should defer to the scientists on that.

19 Mattand  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:40:39am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Absolutely - he’s going to be running for President in 2016, no doubt about it.

It’s an interesting balancing act. You have to amp up the crazy enough to appeal to the average Republican (Christian zealot, racist, ignorant of what the Constitution actually says), while dialing back the crazy so as not to freak out normal people.

Sad, really. I don’t see how you can vote GOP on a national level and not be ashamed of yourself to some degree.

20 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:40:48am

re: #17 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I hear they waste money on tornado tracking too, can you believe it?

I also heard they spend money on something called air traffic control. Can’t the pilots just see each other when they’re up in the air in their flying machines?

21 John Q  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:42:59am

“We’ve got to stop being the stupid party.”
- Bobby Jindal

Pity he can’t take his own advice.

22 jaunte  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:43:05am

Jindal is going to have a hard time overcoming his ‘zero charisma’ factor.

23 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:43:29am

I heard the government also spends its time regulating something called anesthesia.
— Bobby Jindal

24 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:45:46am

Bobby may be a true believer, but even if he wasn’t he will pretend to be. There are certain requirements for being a Republican leader and creationist nonsense is one of them.

25 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:46:12am

re: #23 Gus

I heard the government also spends its time regulating something called anesthesia.
— Bobby Jindal

The government gets all weird if you try to give parents vouchers so their kids can go to Aqua Buddha school.

— Bobby Rand.

26 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:47:31am

re: #25 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The government gets all weird if you try to give parents vouchers so their kids can go to Aqua Buddha school.

— Bobby Rand.

How will our children learn the wonders of flying chariots?

27 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:49:06am

re: #26 Gus

How will our children learn the wonders of flying chariots?

By ending aid to Israel, we will make sure our children can be taught creationism in schools.
— Rand Jindall.

28 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:53:16am

re: #27 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

By ending aid to Israel, we will make sure our children can be taught creationism in schools.
— Rand Jindall.

The male species evolved to become the bread winners. It’s a scientific fact!
— Erick Jindal

29 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:54:06am

You know, I live down here in the south, and there are plenty of Christian Schools down here. Some of them have campuses rivaling any small college in the area. Most of the church buildings I see here are empty and unused during the week too, so what is stopping Christians from founding and running their own schools in their own buildings that don’t have them already? Some of these places are HUGE, rivaling any of the bigger high schools we have here. It seems a waste to have these big buildings just sitting there empty most of the time. They have a pretty good infrastructure in place already, so why not quit dumbing down my kids and put their precious babies into all Christian all the time schools of their own making?

I have yet to get a direct answer from any wingnut I’ve asked about this.

30 Mattand  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:54:20am
Somebody stop that man! He took a picture of me and stole my soul!

Bobby Jindal, campaign trail 2016

31 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:54:36am

re: #28 Gus

The male species evolved to become the bread winners. It’s a scientific fact!
— Erick Jindal

Mix-and-match GOP insanities.

There’s also this:

Jindal was re-elected to a second term with two-thirds of the vote in 2011. But his Louisiana approval rating was down to 38 percent in a recent poll, worse than Democratic President Barack Obama in one of the most conservative U.S. states.

32 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:55:17am

re: #29 A Mom Anon

Those schools would still have to follow curricular rules set by the government; that’s one of the main things they’re upset about.

33 Gus  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:55:20am

I didn’t come from no monkey and Hispanic immigrants have low IQs. Dumb libtards!

34 Mattand  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:57:26am

re: #29 A Mom Anon

re: #32 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Maybe it’s a good thing they don’t. We saw what happened when W stocked his administration with Liberty University “graduates”.

35 Lidane  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:58:34am

re: #2 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

How did it happen that the GOP looked at creationism and decided ‘we can live with that’?

At first, it was because they wanted to win elections and they wanted to bring all the religious fanatics into line as a unified bloc to do it.

Now it’s because all those religious fanatics are the ones getting elected. They sincerely believe in Creationism and in being anti-science.

36 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 11:03:33am

re: #32 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I also suspect they’d be pissed off that they would have to pay teachers a decent salary to attract someone even remotely qualfied.

There is a gigantic Christian school not too far from here. K-12. They’re building a football stadium there right now, I think they own about 50 acres. It’s 12K per yr to send your kid there. There’s also a waiting list, the place is full and has expanded to accommodate more kids a couple of times. I am not sure how whackadoodle their science curriculum is, but they at least pay their teachers a little better than our public schools do. So it can be done, I think some of this crap is laziness. They want the public schools to bend to them so they don’t have to do anything on their own, AND! Bonus points, it gives them something else to hate and tear down.

37 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 11:20:53am

re: #29 A Mom Anon

You know, I live down here in the south, and there are plenty of Christian Schools down here. Some of them have campuses rivaling any small college in the area. Most of the church buildings I see here are empty and unused during the week too, so what is stopping Christians from founding and running their own schools in their own buildings that don’t have them already? Some of these places are HUGE, rivaling any of the bigger high schools we have here. It seems a waste to have these big buildings just sitting there empty most of the time. They have a pretty good infrastructure in place already, so why not quit dumbing down my kids and put their precious babies into all Christian all the time schools of their own making?

I have yet to get a direct answer from any wingnut I’ve asked about this.

Because state and federal money is super sweet, by contrast to actually having to pay for your own ideological indoctrination?
Because private schools don’t provide the opportunity to foist ideology on an unwilling audience while using grading and pedagogy as a bludgeon?
Because the basic premise of wingnut religion is elimination of countering perspectives, and wresting control of state/federal standards about scholastic content is a great way to achieve that?

They don’t answer you because the correct answers aren’t acceptable in a multi-religious, tolerant society.

38 Ming  Sun, Jun 2, 2013 12:31:16pm

re: #19 Mattand

It’s an interesting balancing act. You have to amp up the crazy enough to appeal to the average Republican (Christian zealot, racist, ignorant of what the Constitution actually says), while dialing back the crazy so as not to freak out normal people.

Jindal continues to test-market this “balancing act”. He knows he has until 2016 to improve it. Depending on how “improving his act” goes, I expect him to go for the GOP presidential nomination, or the vice-presidential one.


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