This page at the Organizing for Action site really brings home the horrifying extent of Republican anti-science climate change denial, and it’s not just spin — it’s a truly mind-boggling collection of verbatim quotes from 109 congress members: Call Out the Climate Change Deniers.
A stunning display of deliberate ignorance.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 5:58:38pm |
These people are enemies of the human race, pure and simple. Their greed and ignorance will lead to the death of countless people.
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Stanghazi Sat, Jun 1, 2013 5:58:45pm |
Must-see photo from last night by Mike Hollingshead, distant storms, lightning, stars, auroras and… a RED SPRITE - twitter.com/SeverePlains/s…
— Jayson Prentice (@SeverePlains) June 2, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:08:46pm |
re: #1 Kragar
These people are enemies of the human race, pure and simple. Their greed and ignorance will lead to the death of countless people.
Some of them may be unwitting enemies, if they really think Jesus is going to save everyone or the end times are upon us or whatever.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:17:37pm |
re: #3 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Some of them may be unwitting enemies, if they really think Jesus is going to save everyone or the end times are upon us or whatever.
I for one feel much better knowing we’ll all suffer for their religious beliefs and not because they were malicious.
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Iwouldprefernotto Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:27:03pm |
But science says that man should dominate women…
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jaunte Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:32:43pm |
Rep. John Culberson TX-7“This week the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) decided that the air we exhale, carbon dioxide, is toxic and poses a danger to our well-being….
A lie in the first sentence. Nice work, John.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:43:50pm |
Most (if not all) of these politicians are also supporters of teaching creationism in public schools. These insane anti-science positions are all part of today’s right wing, and it’s rare to find a Republican who hasn’t co-signed on the craziness.
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:45:06pm |
Just a few reminders:
“The Killing” starts up Sunday
“Burn Notice” cranks up final season Thursday
“Graceland” premiers first season on Thursay
“In the Flesh” is on Thursday on BBC (Rehabilitated zombies ala Shaun of the Dead)
“Continuum” starts back up Friday
“Sinbad” - Syfy Saturday
Also:
If you have an adobe account you can probably still download the Lightroom 5 beta, but I’m betting that window is going to close soon.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:49:06pm |
@PatDollard you're still an asshole— Geraldo Rivera (@GeraldoRivera) June 1, 2013
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Randall Gross Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:49:30pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
Most (if not all) of these politicians are also supporters of teaching creationism in public schools. These insane anti-science positions are all part of today’s right wing, and it’s rare to find a Republican who hasn’t co-signed on the craziness.
There are some who are ideological rather than biblical - usually the non religious western state libertarian GOP’ers fall into this wing. This does not excuse their ass-hattery however, in some ways they are worse in that they don’t have the excuse of religious zealotry to blind them to science.
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BigPapa Sat, Jun 1, 2013 6:54:40pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
Pat Dollard is a special kind of asshole.
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ProTARDISLiberal Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:02:29pm |
Listening to the story of the Radio Dead Air guy about his father and his passing.
DON’T. SMOKE.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:10:02pm |
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Eclectic Cyborg Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:10:09pm |
The truly sad thing is once this all comes to pass and these people see the world burning around them, they will merely say it is the judgement of God and they were never wrong about warming.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:15:49pm |
re: #8 dragonath
(NSFW)
Ugly, with clearly unneeded kicks and baton strikes. If that happened in New York or Chicago these days, the cops who were caught doing it would be fired. But in Ankara, the mayor thinks thugs like that are the cat’s meow. There’s a damn high price for that kind of police brutality, and I think the thugs in uniform in Ankara are gonna end up paying it.
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dragonath Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:16:31pm |
re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg
The truly sad thing is once this all comes to pass and these people see the world burning around them, they will merely say it is the judgement of God and they were never wrong about warming.
Gays are making the world hotter?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:16:48pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
Geraldo has his problems, but his reply here was beautiful in its simplicity and accuracy.
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palomino Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:19:33pm |
re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg
The truly sad thing is once this all comes to pass and these people see the world burning around them, they will merely say it is the judgement of God and they were never wrong about warming.
When places like NYC and Boston suffer disasters, the Pat Robertsons and Bryan Fischers of the world blame it on those cities for their tolerance of gays, feminists, atheists, and worst of all, Democrats.
But when tragic disasters occur in Oklahoma and other bible belt states, how does God’s wrath enter into the picture? What explanation do simpletons like Fischer and Robertson provide then?
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ProTARDISLiberal Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:22:49pm |
As of right now
My Favorite Doctor is the 11th.
Favorite Companion is Clara.
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jaunte Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:26:43pm |
The Derpification will continue.
Mississippi ‘Nullification’ Panel Pushed By Tea Party Legislators Would Negate Federal Laws
Two Tea Party lawmakers in Mississippi have proposed legislation to create a permanent committee charged with nullifying federal laws the state does not want to follow.
Under the legislation, a committee of 14 state lawmakers would be authorized to stop any federal law from applying in Mississippi
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:26:48pm |
re: #20 palomino
When places like NYC and Boston suffer disasters, the Pat Robertsons and Bryan Fischers of the world blame it on those cities for their tolerance of gays, feminists, atheists, and worst of all, Democrats.
But when tragic disasters occur in Oklahoma and other bible belt states, how does God’s wrath enter into the picture? What explanation do simpletons like Fischer and Robertson provide then?
That the pious were not pious enough, obviously.
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Eclectic Cyborg Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:27:53pm |
re: #20 palomino
Clearly a disaster in a Bible Belt state is an attack from the Devil.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:32:13pm |
re: #22 jaunte
The Derpification will continue.
Mississippi ‘Nullification’ Panel Pushed By Tea Party Legislators Would Negate Federal Laws
In his new book, Victor Davis Hanson profiles Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman as the general who, more even than Grant, saved the Union with his capture of Atlanta. But before he did that, he ravaged Mississippi to eliminate its ability to aid the Confederate war effort. In honor of Gen. Sherman, and as a ‘FUCK YOU!’ to the Neo-Confederates of Mississippi:
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dragonath Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:33:32pm |
Who needs volcano earthquake atmospheric monitoring when everybody knows it’s Satan troubling us from the stygian depths?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:33:33pm |
re: #21 ProTARDISLiberal
As of right now
My Favorite Doctor is the 11th.
Favorite Companion is Clara.
If he’s not wearing a funky long multi-colored scarf, he’s not the Doctor… ;) First one I saw, imprinted like a chick ;)
I’ll put Eccleston & Tennant at 2 & 3 respectively.
But Blake’s 7 still puts it to rest.
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ProTARDISLiberal Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:37:12pm |
re: #27 William Barnett-Lewis
My first was Tennant.
11th is my favorite largely because of the combination of energy, and the fact that he had only a fraction of the 10th’s messiah complex. He was quieter, goofier, and more involved with his companions.
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BigPapa Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:40:42pm |
I have no idea of what he eff you guys are talking about. Can we deliciously dole on that dullard Dollard?
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darthstar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:43:05pm |
Went to see the new Great Gatsby today. I’m happy to report that Leonardo DiCaprio is every bit as annoying as Robert Redford was in the role of Gatsby. Sucks about Daisy, old sport!
He dies at the end.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:43:41pm |
re: #28 ProTARDISLiberal
My first was Tennant.
11th is my favorite largely because of the combination of energy, and the fact that he had only a fraction of the 10th’s messiah complex. He was quieter, goofier, and more involved with his companions.
I can dig it. I do wish Eccleston could have been talked into longer in the role. There was a certain edge to that year that I enjoyed.
Tennant. Well, I can see what you’re saying about the scripts he was given but he’s the ultimate ascended fan, even more so than the girl who played Luna Lovegood. That and the fact I think he’s the better actor wins, for me, over Smith despite the scripting.
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darthstar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:44:24pm |
First time at the movie theatre with my wife in three or four years. Not a bad experience. Tempted to buy tickets for the Spielberg suite, just to see the original Jaws on the big screen again.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:51:15pm |
Dearborn McDonald’s removes halal items from its menu.
The usual gang of morons is applauding this as a “victory over sharia.” No you dumbasses, Mickey D’s just wants to avoid the liability of one of its workers mistakenly serving non-halal to an observant customer.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:51:31pm |
re: #30 darthstar
Went to see the new Great Gatsby today. I’m happy to report that Leonardo DiCaprio is every bit as annoying as Robert Redford was in the role of Gatsby. Sucks about Daisy, old sport!
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Never could stand that book long enough to finish it. 2nd most over rated novelist of the 20th century. (Hemingway being number one. )
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:57:58pm |
re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis
Never could stand that book long enough to finish it. 2nd most over rated novelist of the 20th century. (Hemingway being number one. )
Really? I rather liked it.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 7:59:43pm |
re: #34 Vicious Babushka
Dearborn McDonald’s removes halal items from its menu.
The usual gang of morons is applauding this as a victory over “sharia.” No you dumbasses, Mickey D’s just wants to avoid the liability of one of its workers mistakenly serving non-halal to an observant customer.
That won’t stop the Bigot Brigade from spewing hate on this. Pam Gellar’s remarks are likely to be especially ugly.
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darthstar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:02:37pm |
Okay…Tequila Sunrise (Gibson/Pfeiffer ‘88) is starting. I like this movie, so I’m going to watch it (yeah, he’s a dick…so the fuck what…this is pre-stupidfuck period).
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Lidane Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:06:10pm |
re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis
Never could stand that book long enough to finish it. 2nd most over rated novelist of the 20th century. (Hemingway being number one. )
I HATED Gatsby. I had to read that stupid book 4 times between middle school and high school for various teachers.
By the time the third teacher assigned it, I just used what I’d written before along with the Cliff’s Notes to remind me about the rest. I have refused to read that book ever since.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:11:20pm |
re: #38 darthstar
Okay…Tequila Sunrise (Gibson/Pfeiffer ‘88) is starting. I like this movie, so I’m going to watch it (yeah, he’s a dick…so the fuck what…this is pre-stupidfuck period).
Mel Gibson can be a dick, but he’s a superior quality actor.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:11:31pm |
re: #39 Lidane
I HATED Gatsby. I had to read that stupid book 4 times between middle school and high school for various teachers.
By the time the third teacher assigned it, I just used what I’d written before along with the Cliff’s Notes to remind me about the rest. I have refused to read that book ever since.
I am of a mixed mind regarding Leonardo Di Caprio. He can really chew up the scenery, but the last few movies that I saw him in, he seemed to be playing Leonardo Di Caprio.
He was good as Howard Hughes in The Aviator, but he has sucked in everything else.
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Lidane Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:21:36pm |
re: #41 Vicious Babushka
I am of a mixed mind regarding Leonardo Di Caprio. He can really chew up the scenery, but the last few movies that I saw him in, he seemed to be playing Leonardo Di Caprio.
He was good as Howard Hughes in The Aviator, but he has sucked in everything else.
I liked him in Django Unchained. I thought he played a really good villain.
Here’s a bit of trivia. In the movie, there’s a scene where he slams his hand down on a table mid rant and half-screams, but he keeps going through the scene despite the fact that his hand is bleeding. That was real. He’d cut his hand open and had to have medical care as soon as they stopped filming the scene.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:26:32pm |
re: #42 Lidane
I liked him in Django Unchained. I thought he played a really good villain.
Here’s a bit of trivia. In the movie, there’s a scene where he slams his hand down on a table mid rant and half-screams, but he keeps going through the scene despite the fact that his hand is bleeding. That was real. He’d cut his hand open and had to have medical care as soon as they stopped filming the scene.
I was kind of disappointed by Django. I thought that the whole setup to the inevitable Tarantino bloodbath was contrived and idiotic. Walz could have just shaken Di Caprio’s hand and they walk out of there with Kerry Washington and live happily ever after.
But what is the fun in that?
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Stanghazi Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:26:42pm |
This should be on every billboard in OK all summer long! #gop #teaparty #fema @mittromney #uniteblue #p2 #tcot #tlot twitter.com/stvrsnbrgr/sta…
— steve rosenberger (@stvrsnbrgr) June 1, 2013
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dragonath Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:27:05pm |
re: #41 Vicious Babushka
He can really chew up the scenery, but the last few movies that I saw him in, he seemed to be playing Leonardo Di Caprio.
Uh oh, Tom Hanks Syndrome.
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Interesting Times Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:27:28pm |
re: #42 Lidane
Oh hai. Could I trouble you for a quick translation check? :)
There’s a Spanish restaurant (I don’t remember exactly where) whose name is “Casa Playa”, which of course means “Beach House” or “House on the Beach”. If you wanted something to mean “House on the Plains”, which one of these would be correct?
Casa Llanura
Casa Llanuras
Casa Llano
(no, I have no plans to get into the restaurant business; I just need to name a restaurant in the book I’m writing…which, getting back on topic, will touch on climate change and its effects)
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:28:49pm |
re: #43 Vicious Babushka
I was kind of disappointed by Django. I thought that the whole setup to the inevitable Tarantino bloodbath was contrived and idiotic. Walz could have just shaken Di Caprio’s hand and they walk out of there with Kerry Washington and live happily ever after.
But what is the fun in that?
If there isn’t a bloodbath, it isn’t Tarantino.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:31:13pm |
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
If there isn’t a bloodbath, it isn’t Tarantino.
I’m not complaining about the bloodbath, just the way that it was set up.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:37:49pm |
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Lidane Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:41:11pm |
re: #46 Interesting Times
Oh hai. Could I trouble you for a quick translation check? :)
There’s a Spanish restaurant (I don’t remember exactly where) whose name is “Casa Playa”, which of course means “Beach House” or “House on the Beach”. If you wanted something to mean “House on the Plains”, which one of these would be correct?
Casa Llanura
Casa Llanuras
Casa Llano(no, I have no plans to get into the restaurant business; I just need to name a restaurant in the book I’m writing…which, getting back on topic, will touch on climate change and its effects)
Hmm. I would personally use La Casa del Llano, which would literally mean “the house of the plain”. Also, Google tells me there’s an actual restaurant by that name in Caracas, Venezuela, so it must be correct. Heh.
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dragonath Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:42:21pm |
I don’t know about you guys, but I’d name my restaurant Casa Llama.
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Lidane Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:43:59pm |
re: #48 Vicious Babushka
I’m not complaining about the bloodbath, just the way that it was set up.
Yeah, the final bloodbath was cheesy, even for Tarantino.
I think if Django had just shot the family, crippled Sam Jackson’s character and blown up the house without the bloodbath, it would have been more effective.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jun 1, 2013 8:45:35pm |
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
If there isn’t a bloodbath, it isn’t Tarantino.
Tarantino is boring and too much is copied from others. I think it was Picasso who said that poor artists copy, great artists steal. Tarantino needs to learn how, IMO, to steal. His best work is simply a pastiche of Sam Peckinpah’s better more violent bits.
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Single-handed sailor Sat, Jun 1, 2013 9:31:25pm |
How about some mathematical proof that Christianity is the one true faith?
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 9:34:18pm |
re: #54 Single-handed sailor
How about some mathematical proof that Christianity is the one true faith?
How can one possibly argue with such rock solid evidence?
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freetoken Sat, Jun 1, 2013 9:36:01pm |
These congress-people are just telling their constituents what they want to hear.
That is how one becomes popular - reflect back to the audience what the audience already believes.
There is a sizable fraction of this country that does not want to admit that we have to play nicely with the rest of the world, if there will be any progress in addressing global issues.
That’s what the wingnuts who have been holding up the Law of the Sea treaty have been doing for several years - they just do not want to live in the 21st century. They want to live in the past, a past mostly of their own imagining, where it is every man for himself and the planet is infinite.
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freetoken Sat, Jun 1, 2013 9:38:38pm |
re: #51 dragonath
I don’t know about you guys, but I’d name my restaurant Casa Llama.
Casa Loquat … I think it would work.
Sadly, the season has been a shorter one for the loquats and locally they are about finished. Spring has sprung and almost gone away.
Where has the time gone?
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freetoken Sat, Jun 1, 2013 9:40:59pm |
re: #21 ProTARDISLiberal
Favorite Companion is Clara.
She’s probably the second sexiest on the list.
I do find her character to be a bit undeveloped, though. Unlike the previous companion pair, which I thought had an excellent story line and a few episodes of unusually high quality for TV.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:01:28pm |
re: #58 freetoken
She’s probably the second sexiest on the list.
I do find her character to be a bit undeveloped, though. Unlike the previous companion pair, which I thought had an excellent story line and a few episodes of unusually high quality for TV.
No one will ever beat Rory the Roman
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klys and whatnot Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:09:00pm |
re: #39 Lidane
I HATED Gatsby. I had to read that stupid book 4 times between middle school and high school for various teachers.
By the time the third teacher assigned it, I just used what I’d written before along with the Cliff’s Notes to remind me about the rest. I have refused to read that book ever since.
The only book I read in high school that I liked was Pride and Prejudice.
But I am a total cheesy romance fan.
Settled in at the Del in San Diego for the next 5 nights. Don’t suppose there are any SD lizards?
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:12:19pm |
re: #60 klys and whatnot
The only book I read in high school that I liked was Pride and Prejudice.
But I am a total cheesy romance fan.
Settled in at the Del in San Diego for the next 5 nights. Don’t suppose there are any SD lizards?
A few of us actually. I’m over in East County.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:15:56pm |
I asked the kids a few hours ago if we still had cold tea or did we need to put another bottle in the fridge.
They assured me there was still some.
I was thinking more than a thimble full when I asked.
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Targetpractice Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:22:00pm |
There’s just something inherently wrong about watching a guy speed-run through Fallout 2. A game like that just needs, no demands one to take the time to really play the game and enjoy the story.
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Kragar Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:24:21pm |
re: #63 Targetpractice
There’s just something inherently wrong about watching a guy speed-run through Fallout 2. A game like that just needs, no demands one to take the time to really play the game and enjoy the story.
or the guy who finishes FO1 in 15 minutes
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Targetpractice Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:26:10pm |
re: #64 Kragar
or the guy who finishes FO1 in 15 minutes
Speedruns to me just don’t have the same appeal as watching someone play the game faithfully.
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klys and whatnot Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:26:33pm |
re: #61 Kragar
A few of us actually. I’m over in East County.
Well, I am in Coronado until Thursday afternoon…
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klys and whatnot Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:26:47pm |
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freetoken Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:37:36pm |
re: #60 klys and whatnot
Settled in at the Del in San Diego for the next 5 nights. Don’t suppose there are any SD lizards?
There are several of us.
What are you doing in Coronado? Is this a special holiday, or something you do regularly.
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prairiefire Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:38:40pm |
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Tigger2 Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:45:14pm |
re: #25 Dark_Falcon
In his new book, Victor Davis Hanson profiles Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman as the general who, more even than Grant, saved the Union with his capture of Atlanta. But before he did that, he ravaged Mississippi to eliminate its ability to aid the Confederate war effort. In honor of Gen. Sherman, and as a ‘FUCK YOU!’ to the Neo-Confederates of Mississippi:
That never gets old. lol
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Lidane Sat, Jun 1, 2013 10:51:29pm |
re: #22 jaunte
The Derpification will continue.
Mississippi ‘Nullification’ Panel Pushed By Tea Party Legislators Would Negate Federal Laws
The Supremacy Clause, how the fuck does it work?
*sigh*
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dragonath Sat, Jun 1, 2013 11:06:54pm |
re: #74 Lidane
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
The only Supremacy Clause that seems to matter to some people.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 4:50:55am |
re: #41 Vicious Babushka
I am of a mixed mind regarding Leonardo Di Caprio. He can really chew up the scenery, but the last few movies that I saw him in, he seemed to be playing Leonardo Di Caprio.
He was good as Howard Hughes in The Aviator, but he has sucked in everything else.
I liked DiCaprio in “The Departed” as well. And I also enjoyed him in Clint Eastwood’s “J. Edgar”.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:02:17am |
re: #77 Dr Lizardo
Some actors really need good direction and a strong script to be great. DiCaprio is one of those. If he doesn’t have those, he reverts to type.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:04:56am |
re: #78 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Some actors really need good direction and a strong script to be great. DiCaprio is one of those. If he doesn’t have those, he reverts to type.
Tom Cruise/Steven Spielberg comes to mind. “War of the Worlds” and “Minority Report” are the only two films of Tom Cruise I really enjoyed, mostly because he pulled off a good performance under Spielberg’s direction.
I’m not a big fan of Cruise; never have been.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:08:24am |
re: #79 Dr Lizardo
Cruise never convinces me that he’s intelligent, even when playing an intelligent character. Same with Keanu Reeves.
I think Cruise’s best performance was in Magnolia.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:12:43am |
re: #80 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Cruise never convinces me that he’s intelligent, even when playing an intelligent character. Same with Keanu Reeves.
I think Cruise’s best performance was in Magnolia.
Heh.
I would agree that “Magnolia” was Cruise’s best performance. Working with Paul Thomas Anderson does that; “There Will Be Blood”, “Boogie Nights” and “The Master” - Anderson is the demi-god of directors.
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Political Atheist Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:18:38am |
re: #2 Stanghazi
Beautiful!
My sky looked just like this yesterday about noon. Brush fire sky. The powerhouse fire blew up big. Image: Daniel_3332.jpg
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:39:06am |
Dear God, please don’t make today as BORING as yesterday. Thanks. El Gusbo.
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Flounder Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:39:57am |
Although he’s devoted his efforts to the Broadway stage for the past decade-and-a-half, legendary funnyman and filmmaker Mel Brooks is getting one of the ultimate movie honors: The American Film Institute’s Lifetime Achievement Award.
Also a little sideshow of some of his great movies.
blog.timesunion.com
Puppy sitting this weekend, what a cute pain in the arse. His name is Mr. Tippers and very bitey.
Good Morning Lizards!
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:43:41am |
re: #85 Flounder
There was a profile of Mel Brooks on American Masters on PBS recently. It was very good. video.whyy.org
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:45:26am |
A real, actual political scandal is going on in the UK:
The “cash-for-questions” lobbying scandal has spread to the House of Lords only days after ending the career of Tory MP Patrick Mercer.
Investigations by two national newspapers and the BBC have led to more damaging revelations of a lobbying racket operating in parliament.
Lord Cunningham, Lord Laird and Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate are accused of taking money to ask parliamentary questions, lobby ministers and host events on the House of Lords terrace.
…
Cunningham, a privy counsellor who led the committee on Lords reform under Tony Blair, asked for £144,000 a year to provide a personal lobbying service.
Laird and Mackenzie revealed peers were colluding to conceal their conflicts of interest from the public through a secret job-swapping scam in which they pooled their clients to pull strings on each other’s behalf.
The peers offered to act as paid advocates for a firm pressing for new laws to benefit its business. They also promised to set up an all-party parliamentary group as a lobbying vehicle.
Cunningham was caught in a newspaper sting in which reporters posed as lobbyists for a fictitious South Korean solar energy company.
“Are you suggesting £10,000 a month?” he told the Sunday Times decoy. “Make that £12,000 a month. I think we could do a deal on that.”
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A Mom Anon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:46:04am |
re: #85 Flounder
I’m doggie sitting my friend’s Doberman for the week starting tommorrow. It’s going to be interesting to say the least. I have a Doberman/Shepard mix about the same size( 75-80 lbs), walks could be a challenge. I have visions of them pulling me in separate directions like a wishbone. I’m happy we have a large fenced in backyard so they can run each other ragged with only somewhat intense supervision. The dogs know each other well, but the Doberman is also scared of cats, lol, and my cat can be kind of a dick, so that should be fun. ( I also wonder what the hell I’ve got myself into)
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:55:38am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 5:56:02am |
re: #87 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
A real, actual political scandal is going on in the UK:
The “cash-for-questions” lobbying scandal has spread to the House of Lords only days after ending the career of Tory MP Patrick Mercer.
Investigations by two national newspapers and the BBC have led to more damaging revelations of a lobbying racket operating in parliament.
Lord Cunningham, Lord Laird and Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate are accused of taking money to ask parliamentary questions, lobby ministers and host events on the House of Lords terrace.
…
I hope they go to prison.
As do I. “Cash-for Questions” is pure corruption, made even worse by the fact that the person engaged in it is claiming to have been acting on behalf of his constituents when he was really doing the bidding of some special interest fat cat. As a Chicago native, I’ll leave the last word in this post for Al Capone:
“A crook is a crook, and there’s something healthy about his frankness in the matter. But any guy who pretends he is enforcing the law and steals on his authority is a swell snake. The worst type of these punks is the big politician. You can only get a little of his time because he spends so much time covering up that no one will know that he is a thief. A hard-working crook will-and can-get those birds by the dozen, but right down in his heart he won’t depend on them-hates the sight of them.”
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:04:58am |
The best movie that I have seen recently: Spielberg’s “Lincoln” with Daniel-Day Lewis. Sally Field and Tommy Lee Jones also kick ass in that movie.
Second best, “Argo” even though the airport scene was
totally silly. If the Revolutionary Guard had attempted to chase down a 747 taking off, in real life, the jet wash would have blown all the vehicles into a pile of wrecks at the end of the runway. Actually that would have been really cool to watch, even if it never actually happened.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:07:12am |
Tada! Yeah, I’ve got my grievances too. Why won’t people listen to my grievances? Huh? Huh? Aye? What about me?! //
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:10:11am |
re: #93 Vicious Babushka
The best movie that I have seen recently: Spielberg’s “Lincoln” with Daniel-Day Lewis. Sally Field and Tommy Lee Jones also kick ass in that movie.
Second best, “Argo” even though the airport scene was
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Happy to know I wasn’t the only person who noticed that.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:10:38am |
Looks like Gus is antsy today. I’ll go get the tranquilizer gun…
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:10:40am |
re: #95 Gus
compliments at this window; complaints at the next window—->
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:11:05am |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
The problem we have in the US is that politicians are bribed by contributions to campaigns and related soft-money activity; not as dramatic as direct bribery, but still bribery to my mind.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:12:18am |
bbl I’m going to the swimming pool now.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:15:00am |
re: #99 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
The problem we have in the US is that politicians are bribed by contributions to campaigns and related soft-money activity; not as dramatic as direct bribery, but still bribery to my mind.
Much harder to regulate though, given the 1st Amendment (I’m including the Supreme Court decisions on campaign finance, since the 1st Amendment is the one on point in this matter).
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:15:10am |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Looks like Gus is antsy today. I’ll go get the tranquilizer gun…
I just think it’s funny. Twitter. Hey, you know I think all the trending crap is stupid. Twitter police. Oh yeah? What about all that stuff about Justin Bieber? Why isn’t this in the headlines?!?!?! //
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:18:40am |
Would you like to share the road with autonomous vehicles? Tell us what you think in our current #TimeNav poll: http://t.co/U8ywoQ4h14— SmithsonianAirSpace (@airandspace) June 2, 2013
NO!
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Flounder Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:18:48am |
re: #97 Dark_Falcon
Yeah, but do you notice Gus just pulls the darts out and drinks the tranquilizer?!
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:20:18am |
re: #104 Flounder
Yeah, but do you notice Gus just pulls the darts out and drinks the tranquilizer?!
That’s backwards. I drink the darts. Lawn darts in fact with baby fetuses attached like a kabob. //
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:20:33am |
Brooklyn hipsters vs. Brooklyn Puerto Ricans? http://t.co/eFR52NR6Tn Hipsters are annoying.— Gus (@Gus_802) June 2, 2013
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A Mom Anon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:20:58am |
From a local news story…
So churches are now dumping the Boy Scouts because there might be a gay kid among them somewhere. Because no gay people ever go to church. So there’s no way they’ll be gay people all around them if they get rid of Boy Scout troops they promised to sponsor. Maybe it’s just me, but breaking a promise to a bunch of kids might be a little more assholish than not kicking out the gay kids. Hopefully groups will step up and give the various troops a new home.
You know, when I hear wingnuts whining about how they want their country back, I just want to throw a chair at them. They’re the ones pissing all over everything and taking a dump in the living room and then bitching about the smell.
Assholes.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:21:54am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:22:36am |
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A Mom Anon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:24:14am |
re: #110 sattv4u2
better everything. Hipsters bring nothing to the table but sneers and bad fashion.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:25:51am |
re: #107 A Mom Anon
From a local news story…
So churches are now dumping the Boy Scouts because there might be a gay kid among them somewhere. Because no gay people ever go to church. So there’s no way they’ll be gay people all around them if they get rid of Boy Scout troops they promised to sponsor. Maybe it’s just me, but breaking a promise to a bunch of kids might be a little more assholish than not kicking out the gay kids. Hopefully groups will step up and give the various troops a new home.
You know, when I hear wingnuts whining about how they want their country back, I just want to throw a chair at them. They’re the ones pissing all over everything and taking a dump in the living room and then bitching about the smell.
Assholes.
The Boy Scouts did the right thing for the right reason in changing their policy on gay boys and now they’re getting punished for it.
Bigotry sucks.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:26:17am |
re: #110 sattv4u2
And prettier women
Yep. No smug skeletors with skinny jeans and longs shoes texting on their iPhones while shuffling through their trendy “alternative music” on their iPods while running into mail boxes keeping in touch with their social media. //
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:28:13am |
re: #113 Gus
Yep. No smug skeletors with skinny jeans and longs shoes texting on their iPhones while shuffling through their trendy “alternative music” on their iPods while running into mail boxes keeping in touch with their social media. //
And they wander onto your lawn while wearing Google Glasses.
//
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:28:40am |
re: #111 A Mom Anon
better everything. Hipsters bring nothing to the table but sneers and bad fashion.
Hipsters are annoying. I remember the proto-Hipsters of Portland, OR of the late 90s.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:36:36am |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
Much harder to regulate though, given the 1st Amendment (I’m including the Supreme Court decisions on campaign finance, since the 1st Amendment is the one on point in this matter).
Yeah, well, I think the decision that money is speech is stupid as shit, and I think that idea that corporations should have rights based on citzens is likewise stupid.
But it will be hard to make motion on either of those, since now the forces that want to preserve that state have their hands on the levers of power.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:41:45am |
If I see a robot car on the road I’m going to smash into it like a demolition derby over and over again until they haul me away in a straight jacket.
// - 1/2
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:42:00am |
re: #116 Dr Lizardo
Hipsters are annoying. I remember the proto-Hipsters of Portland, OR of the late 90s.
Well the worst thing about ironic Portland hipsters is that they can become old Portland cranks (I’m looking at you, Killgore Trout).
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:43:12am |
re: #119 Dark_Falcon
Well the worst thing about ironic Portland hipsters is that they can become old Portland cranks (I’m looking at you, Killgore Trout).
Old? Old?! You mean people get old?
— Hipster
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:43:13am |
re: #118 Gus
If I see a robot car on the road I’m going to smash into it like a demolition derby over and over again until they haul me away in a straight jacket.
// - 1/2
Good thing you already have one!!
/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:43:18am |
re: #117 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Yeah, well, I think the decision that money is speech is stupid as shit, and I think that idea that corporations should have rights based on citzens is likewise stupid.
But it will be hard to make motion on either of those, since now the forces that want to preserve that state have their hands on the levers of power.
But if I pay for an ad bashing a candidate I don’t like, is that not speech?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:45:22am |
re: #120 Gus
Old? Old?! You mean people get old?
— Hipster
[DF looks over at Gus with a mixture of fondness and exasperation, then he shakes his head while wearing a wry smile.]
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:45:56am |
Yep. Looks like storm chasing might get you killed.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:46:22am |
Last Tweet:
Storms now initiating south of Watonga along triple point. Dangerous day ahead for OK—stay weather savvy! t.co/B8ddJcDViI— Tim Samaras (@Tim_Samaras) May 31, 2013
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:47:00am |
Renowned Colorado storm chaser Tim Samaras, son killed in Oklahoma tornado | http://t.co/g5TW2HcYuf http://t.co/201mFvgsjv via @9news— Gus (@Gus_802) June 2, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:47:12am |
re: #122 Dark_Falcon
But if I pay for an ad bashing a candidate I don’t like, is that not speech?
It’s speech that crowds out other speech. In fact, it’s obviation of the speech of others, since you’re paying them to say something.
Are you saying you disagree with all campaign finance laws and think that unrestricted political speech should be allowed?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 2, 2013 6:56:34am |
And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:12:52am |
re: #127 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
It’s speech that crowds out other speech. In fact, it’s obviation of the speech of others, since you’re paying them to say something.
Are you saying you disagree with all campaign finance laws and think that unrestricted political speech should be allowed?
To your question: No, nothing so dramatic.
To your statement: A TV commercial does not obviate* someone else’s speech since the TV network or station has already set aside a bloc of time for commercials, and still has its newscasts for its own speech. Any actors in the commercial are employees of the campaign, at least while filing. They can’t publicly bad mouth the candidate whose campaign they work for till after the election, it is true, but that is a standard part of most employment (If you publicly hate on the company you work for or the products it produces, you won’t be working there long.)
*: I like that word ‘obviate’, but I so rarely have an opportunity to write it. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to do so.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:14:47am |
I just think that political speech, especially in support of a candidate, should not be annonymous speech, people what to (and have the right to know) who is behind a candidate financially.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:16:38am |
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:18:04am |
Sad to hear Tim and Paul Samaras and Carl Young died during chasing… R.I.P. pic.twitter.com/8Dd8FataTj— Richard den Boer (@RdenBoer82) June 2, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:21:09am |
re: #112 Dark_Falcon
The Boy Scouts did the right thing for the right reason in changing their policy on gay boys and now they’re getting punished for it.
Bigotry sucks.
Boys Scouts made an incomplete policy change. They are still discriminatory.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:24:36am |
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:25:13am |
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:27:20am |
re: #130 Dark_Falcon
To your question: No, nothing so dramatic.
To your statement: A TV commercial does not obviate* someone else’s speech since the TV network or station has already set aside a bloc of time for commercials, and still has its newscasts for its own speech.
*: I like that word ‘obviate’, but I so rarely have an opportunity to write it. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to do so.
None of what you said demonstrates that it doesn’t obviate someone else’s speech.
Paid speech limits the right of speech to those who can pay.
They can’t publicly bad mouth the candidate whose campaign they work for till after the election, it is true, but that is a standard part of most employment (If you publicly hate on the company you work for or the products it produces, you won’t be working there long.)
And this actually agrees that their speech is obviated.
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Iwouldprefernotto Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:38:02am |
Climate change deniers are always claiming that the only reason the scientists believe in climate change is to get govt. grants. Never have a great response to this. Suggestions?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:40:18am |
re: #139 Iwouldprefernotto
Climate change deniers are always claiming that the only reason the scientists believe in climate change is to get govt. grants. Never have a great response to this. Suggestions?
if all they cared about was free government grant money and not about maintaining their scientific reputation, then one could make the point that they are selling out for money.
and there are millions to be made in grants, but that is piddling compared to the billions/trillions to be made in the energy industry.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:40:59am |
re: #139 Iwouldprefernotto
Climate change deniers are always claiming that the only reason the scientists believe in climate change is to get govt. grants. Never have a great response to this. Suggestions?
The same scientists could make a shitload more money pursuing other professions or working as scientists for industry, and grants are more likely to be awarded for revolutionary science— science claiming a novel result, like AGW not happening— than for the 4000th study showing CO2 is causing global warming.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:41:56am |
re: #139 Iwouldprefernotto
Climate change deniers are always claiming that the only reason the scientists believe in climate change is to get govt. grants. Never have a great response to this. Suggestions?
To that directly, I don’t know but I’d point out that most of the climate change skeptics that one sees on TV are representatives of big businesses that have more money at stake than the scientists do. I’d also point out that even Margaret Thatcher, that hero of conservatives admitted it was real.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:16am |
re: #136 Gus
You know what would be great? If companies that hire people to handle food actually gave them paid sick leave and decent preventative care as part of their health insurance. It’s got nothing at all to do with organic/not organic. I grow organic food, no one has ever got sick from my food, I’ve been at this for 16 yrs. My grandparents had an organic farm for 30 yrs, it never happened there either.
When you eat in a restaurant or get fast food, there’s an awfully good chance that at least one worker is there sick because they can’t afford the day off or their employer will fire them if they call in sick. THAT’S the problem here. Food recalls keep happening over and over again, most of the time it’s unclean factory practices, salmonella in peanut butter, ecoli in ground beef,etc, etc.
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RadicalModerate Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:43:19am |
re: #107 A Mom Anon
From a local news story…
So churches are now dumping the Boy Scouts because there might be a gay kid among them somewhere. Because no gay people ever go to church. So there’s no way they’ll be gay people all around them if they get rid of Boy Scout troops they promised to sponsor. Maybe it’s just me, but breaking a promise to a bunch of kids might be a little more assholish than not kicking out the gay kids. Hopefully groups will step up and give the various troops a new home.
CNN has a front-page story on their website on this now - unsurprisingly, the charge is being led by the Southern Baptists.
Baptists plan exodus from Boy Scouts
Baptist churches sponsor nearly 4,000 Scout units representing more than 100,000 youths, according to the Boy Scouts of America.
That number could drop precipitously.
The Southern Baptist Convention, the country’s largest Protestant denomination, will soon urge its 45,000 congregations and 16 million members to cut ties with the Scouts, according to church leaders.
The denomination will vote on nonbinding but influential resolutions during a convention June 11-12 in Houston.
“There’s a 100% chance that there will be a resolution about disaffiliation at the convention,” said Richard Land, the longtime head of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, “and a 100% chance that 99% of people will vote for it.”
“Southern Baptists are going to be leaving the Boy Scouts en masse,” Land continued.
The reason I say “unsurprisingly” is because of the history of the Southern Baptist Convention.
For example: the reason for their creation, via a split from the main body of the American Baptists in 1845 was due to their support of slavery - a practice they didn’t condemn until 1996 (note: this date is not a misprint).
Some more from their Wikipedia entry:
en.wikipedia.org
After Reconstruction, SBC members were among the southern legislators who voted for disfranchising laws and constitutions that, by the turn of the twentieth century, essentially eliminated blacks as voters, reducing them to second-class status. They also had passed Jim Crow laws establishing racial segregation. During the following half century, into the 1960s and the Civil Rights era, most Southern Baptist pastors and most members of their flocks rejected integration and defended white supremacy, further alienating African Americans.
Bigotry is a fundamental principle of this organization, and the split from the BSA can’t come soon enough.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:43:22am |
re: #143 A Mom Anon
You know what would be great? If companies that hire people to handle food actually gave them paid sick leave and decent preventative care as part of their health insurance. It’s got nothing at all to do with organic/not organic. I grow organic food, no one has ever got sick from my food, I’ve been at this for 16 yrs. My grandparents had an organic farm for 30 yrs, it never happened there either.
When you eat in a restaurant or get fast food, there’s an awfully good chance that at least one worker is there sick because they can’t afford the day off or their employer will fire them if they call in sick. THAT’S the problem here. Food recalls keep happening over and over again, most of the time it’s unclean factory practices, salmonella in peanut butter, ecoli in ground beef,etc, etc.
Well said.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:43:25am |
re: #143 A Mom Anon
That’s why I grind my own meat.
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Iwouldprefernotto Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:43:32am |
Good points. Oil companies sponsor a lot of BS.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:44:21am |
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:46:18am |
re: #147 Iwouldprefernotto
Good points. Oil companies sponsor a lot of BS.
‘What good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?’
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A Mom Anon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:47:37am |
re: #146 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I buy cuts of beef on sale and do that too. Add a little bacon maybe or some times a bit of ground pork roast. Great for burgers and meatballs. It’s better quality than most of the ground beef on the market too. Plus you know that the beef is from one animal, not a thousand.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:47:50am |
re: #149 Gus
‘What good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?’
They imply how awful it would be if government controlled your life and your choices…as compared to how nice it is to let international corporations do that for you…
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A Mom Anon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:51:20am |
re: #151 Sol Berdinowitz
Well that and having to be inconvenienced by driving a smaller and more fuel efficient car. Or maybe having more efficient means of heating and cooling our homes or running factories and businesses. Never mind that these idiots could make a ton of money by switching over to other power sources and gradually wean us off oil. But no, that might mean they’d need to have 3 billion dollars of personal wealth instead of 4.
The Horror.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:51:47am |
re: #151 Sol Berdinowitz
They implay how awful it would be if government controlled your life and your choices…as compared to how nice it is to let international corporations do that for you…
That has to be one of the most absurd quotes I’ve ever read WRT to the environment, etc. It’s almost like something straight out of a Hollywood script from the mouth of a movie villain that comes to destroy a town in the name of greed.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:53:29am |
I see the TMZ report about the storm chasers deaths is bringing out the idiots.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:53:58am |
re: #139 Iwouldprefernotto
Climate change deniers are always claiming that the only reason the scientists believe in climate change is to get govt. grants. Never have a great response to this. Suggestions?
Yeah, because a government grant of $100,000 is so much more valuable than a Koch Brothers grant of MILLIONS to climate deniers.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:54:15am |
re: #134 FemNaziBitch
Boys Scouts made an incomplete policy change. They are still discriminatory.
Even if not all it should have been, the policy change was still the right thing done for the right reasons.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:54:37am |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
Even if not all it should have been, the policy change was still the right thing done for the right reasons.
I don’t agree.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:55:20am |
re: #132 FemNaziBitch
horizontal principles ?????
ANYONE?????
I’m not sure I understand.
you?
Heh. It’s hard to tell from the article because it seems the dude is reviewing a book he didn’t understand. It’s hard to take anarchists seriously anyways, outside of academia it’s just not really an adult philosophy. There are many reasons why occupy flopped but I don’t think the author of the article or the author of the book are on the right track or terribly realistic about human nature.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:57:51am |
re: #155 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, because a government grant of $100,000 is so much more valuable than a Koch Brothers grant of MILLIONS to climate deniers.
Exactly what I was saying but without the really good math. There’s more money in denying climate change than there is affirming its existence.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:59:11am |
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:59:20am |
re: #159 Killgore Trout
Heh. It’s hard to tell from the article because it seems the dude is reviewing a book he didn’t understand. It’s hard to take anarchists seriously anyways, outside of academia it’s just not really an adult philosophy. There are many reasons why occupy flopped but I don’t think the author of the article or the author of the book are on the right track or terribly realistic about human nature.
I’ve always thought of “female” management style as horizontal. At least I was taught that at some point.
I don’t think that’s exactly what the concept is as far as this article goes, tho.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:59:32am |
re: #137 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
None of what you said demonstrates that it doesn’t obviate someone else’s speech.
Paid speech limits the right of speech to those who can pay.
And this actually agrees that their speech is obviated.
All media speech is limited to those who can pay. That doesn’t mean its not political speech. Just because I’ve got the money to have an ad placed, does not take away from my right to place said ad.
As for employees of campaigns: No, it doesn’t. The person can still speak as he wishes, for he faces no criminal charges in doing so. But if in speaking he seriously offends his employer, he’s liable to find himself without a job.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:03:44am |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
All media speech is limited to those who can pay.
That’s not true. ALl paid media speech is limited to those who can pay.
That doesn’t mean its not political speech. Just because I’ve got the money to have an ad placed, does not take away from my right to place said ad.
That’s not what I asked about, though. I’m saying that if you and I both want to convince the world of something, and you have five million dollars and I have a piece of string, you’re going to have a lot more speech than I do.
I am not saying “Therefore no paid speech should be allowed!”, I’m just pointing out that when there’s paid speech, the speech of those without money gets diminished.
Finally, it is not normally a person on their own paying for the speech, but a corporate entity— and again, it was a terrible mistake to base the rights of corporations off those of individuals, and speech is a right that is very different when used by a corporation than an individual.
As for employees of campaigns: Obviation of their speech is the price they pay for their job. It is not reasonable to expect an organization to continue to employee someone who is publicly hostile to it.
I didn’t say it wasn’t the price they paid for their job, I said it was obviation of their speech, and you’re saying that yes, it is obviating their speech.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:04:43am |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:05:43am |
re: #162 FemNaziBitch
I’ve always thought of “female” management style as horizontal. At least I was taught that at some point.
I don’t think that’s exactly what the concept is as far as this article goes, tho.
I guess they could be related meanings of horizontal in terms of consensus building but the anarchist version of horizontal leadership is actually fairly regimented. I seems to recall the anarchists adopted the ritual from tribal community meeting in Senegal or something. the whole cumbersome process of general assembly, uptwinkles, etc is part of the problem why occupy never found a direction and couldn’t get traction on concrete proposals but there was a lot more wrong with the movement.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:05:45am |
re: #166 FemNaziBitch
Stupid mens-rights bullshit.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:07:30am |
re: #167 Killgore Trout
The biggest problem at Occupy was the presence of ideological non-voters like yourself.
No political movement in a voting-based system is going to work when there’s a lot of people who simply refuse to engage with the system.
There wasn’t really any possible resolution to this problem, no matter what form of consensus-building was used.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:15:27am |
re: #165 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
That’s not true. ALl paid media speech is limited to those who can pay.
That’s not what I asked about, though. I’m saying that if you and I both want to convince the world of something, and you have five million dollars and I have a piece of string, you’re going to have a lot more speech than I do.
I am not saying “Therefore no paid speech should be allowed!”, I’m just pointing out that when there’s paid speech, the speech of those without money gets diminished.
Finally, it is not normally a person on their own paying for the speech, but a corporate entity— and again, it was a terrible mistake to base the rights of corporations off those of individuals, and speech is a right that is very different when used by a corporation than an individual.
I didn’t say it wasn’t the price they paid for their job, I said it was obviation of their speech, and you’re saying that yes, it is obviating their speech.
Actually, i revised that post after writing it. Here’s the new version:
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
All media speech is limited to those who can pay. That doesn’t mean its not political speech. Just because I’ve got the money to have an ad placed, does not take away from my right to place said ad.
As for employees of campaigns: No, it doesn’t. The person can still speak as he wishes, for he faces no criminal charges in doing so. But if in speaking he seriously offends his employer, he’s liable to find himself without a job.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:19:31am |
re: #168 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Stupid mens-rights bullshit.
“Men’s rights”? Have I been an oppressed minority all this time and didn’t know it?
//
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:19:37am |
re: #170 Dark_Falcon
As for employees of campaigns: No, it doesn’t. The person can still speak as he wishes, for he faces no criminal charges in doing so. But if in speaking he seriously offends his employer, he’s liable to find himself without a job.
It still makes whatever paid speech they’re giving appear to be their speech, which it isn’t.
It’s a complex area of theory, since people often simplistically think of free speech as a right that can’t infringe on the rights of others in any way, but it can. In fact, it’s one of the few rights you can exercise on behalf of someone else, in someone else’s employ.
So again, if you are taking the position that it is all speech, if you don’t want to be dramatic and allow all paid political speech, what’s your rationale for limiting any political speech?
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:20:49am |
re: #173 Targetpractice
“Men’s rights”? Have I been an oppressed minority all this time and didn’t know it?
//
That’s seriously the argument of the MRA people. They basically are the equivalent of “Blacks are the real racists” types.
Utter, utter whiners.
I really like the gaming analogy:
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:23:42am |
re: #173 Targetpractice
“Men’s rights”? Have I been an oppressed minority all this time and didn’t know it?
//
Seriously. But yeah these men’s rights types creep me out especially because they’re not shockingly also very anti women’s rights. They think things like VAWA oppress them as does equal pay for equal work.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:24:39am |
re: #176 HappyWarrior
Seriously. But yeah these men’s rights types creep me out especially because they’re not shockingly also very anti women’s rights. They think things like VAWA oppress them as does equal pay for equal work.
it’s the same argument some are using regarding the Establishment Clause. “You exercising your rights, denies me mine—somehow”
There is probably a logical fallacy in there… .Zero-Sum Game?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:25:25am |
re: #174 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
It still makes whatever paid speech they’re giving appear to be their speech, which it isn’t.
It’s a complex area of theory, since people often simplistically think of free speech as a right that can’t infringe on the rights of others in any way, but it can. In fact, it’s one of the few rights you can exercise on behalf of someone else, in someone else’s employ.
So again, if you are taking the position that it is all speech, if you don’t want to be dramatic and allow all paid political speech, what’s your rationale for limiting any political speech?
My rationale is that of compromise. Unrestricted political speech (although I would mandate disclosures, since should know who is really saying what they are hear) is not going to be acceptable politically, so my idea is to take what space is available within recent Supreme Court decisions and what can be obtained by compromise. Advocating the scrapping of campaign finance law is sudden, too one-sided, and doesn’t fit through the public’s Overton Window.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:25:28am |
re: #177 FemNaziBitch
it’s the same argument some are using regarding the Establishment Clause. “You exercising your rights, denies me mine—somehow”
Yeah well they’re fucking bonkers. This one idiot on the Asperger’s Group I posted in actually claimed there was a war on men. Sigh……….
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:25:55am |
re: #175 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
That’s seriously the argument of the MRA people. They basically are the equivalent of “Blacks are the real racists” types.
Utter, utter whiners.
I really like the gaming analogy:
I think MRAs are a bunch of weirdos. That being said, “straight white males” are not all the same. We have 3 straight white males that I can think of on my block. They all have high paying jobs, wives, children, graduate degrees and some have mini-vans. They’re all about 6 feet tall and very anglo. I talk with them but just barely. I too am a “straight white male” just like them. Yet, I have very little in common with them.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:26:33am |
re: #177 FemNaziBitch
it’s the same argument some are using regarding the Establishment Clause. “You exercising your rights, denies me mine—somehow”
There is probably a logical fallacy in there… .Zero-Sum Game?
Perhaps, although when it comes to divorce and child custody such groups sometimes have a legitimate point.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:31:21am |
re: #181 Dark_Falcon
Perhaps, although when it comes to divorce and child custody such groups sometimes have a legitimate point.
You mean like rapists should have parental rights?
If you look closely, you’ll find that’s what they really mean.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:32:25am |
There’s no shame in being a straight white dude, I am one but the persecution complex is just silly. Oh you mean, we’re not going to own most of the businesses, be most of the elected officials, etc. How terrible. Societies change. Not a reason to feel threatened at all but I am alas comfortable in my own skin.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:32:25am |
re: #179 HappyWarrior
Yeah well they’re fucking bonkers. This one idiot on the Asperger’s Group I posted in actually claimed there was a war on men. Sigh……….
“Help, help! I’m being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!”
Yeah, because my life as a white heterosexual male has been consistent oppression since the day I was born; the good jobs, the fairly decent apartment, the international travel. Yeah, my life really blows - I know exactly how Fredrick Douglass must’ve felt in his youth.
/// x infinity.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:33:04am |
re: #182 FemNaziBitch
You mean like rapists should have parental rights?
If you look closely, you’ll find that’s what they really mean.
How do you figure that?
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:34:42am |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
How do you figure that?
Because the system is still very much slanted towards men. They usually have the economic power in divorce and child custody. If it were different, we wouldn’t have so many struggling single moms.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:35:32am |
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
“Help, help! I’m being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!”
Yeah, because my life as a white heterosexual male has been consistent oppression since the day I was born; the good jobs, the fairly decent apartment, the international travel. Yeah, my life really blows - I know exactly how Fredrick Douglass must’ve felt in his youth.
/// x infinity.
I ranted about it the other night but when white males commit acts of terror like McVeigh did, no one is beating up random white guys like they do with Muslims or other minority groups which of course is the way it should be. That alone makes our complaints look silly. It all boils down to me a resentment that this isn’t the 1950’s anymore where white straight dudes are on the top of everything. Does sexism against men happen? Of course it does but the shit your average straight white dude has to go through pales in comparison to his female and racial minority counterparts.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:36:46am |
re: #178 Dark_Falcon
My rationale is that of compromise. Unrestricted political speech (although I would mandate disclosures, since should know who is really saying what they are hear) is not going to be acceptable politically, so my idea is to take what space is available within recent Supreme Court decisions and what can be obtained by compromise. Advocating the scrapping of campaign finance law is sudden, too one-sided, and doesn’t fit through the public’s Overton Window.
Dark, I’m not talking about what’s actually practical or acceptable politically, I”m asking for your actual person views of what should be.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:37:07am |
re: #187 FemNaziBitch
Because the system is still very much slanted towards men. They usually have the economic power in divorce and child custody. If it were different, we wouldn’t have so many struggling single moms.
And most of the time that men actually seek custody, they get it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:37:46am |
re: #185 Dr Lizardo
“Help, help! I’m being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!”
Yeah, because my life as a white heterosexual male has been consistent oppression since the day I was born; the good jobs, the fairly decent apartment, the international travel. Yeah, my life really blows - I know exactly how Fredrick Douglass must’ve felt in his youth.
/// x infinity.
You can’t do a post like that without posting the original video:
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:38:38am |
re: #180 Gus
Yeah. Or a friend of mine who was given hormone therapy when he was young which stunted his growth. He’s a ‘straight white male’, but as a very short guy with a thin, reedy voice and childlike features, he really gets the shit end of the stick.
But the broader point is true: when comparing classes, ‘straight white male’ is far easier than any other assemblage. The article actually goes into that in some interesting detail.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:39:12am |
re: #191 BigPapa
He’s just as deranged as Jackson and no matter what the Va GOP establishment says, he is.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:40:07am |
re: #188 HappyWarrior
I ranted about it the other night but when white males commit acts of terror like McVeigh did, no one is beating up random white guys like they do with Muslims or other minority groups which of course is the way it should be. That alone makes our complaints look silly. It all boils down to me a resentment that this isn’t the 1950’s anymore where white straight dudes are on the top of everything. Does sexism against men happen? Of course it does but the shit your average straight white dude has to go through pales in comparison to his female and racial minority counterparts.
Precisely. What the Men’s Right’s types are really steamed about is that their lives aren’t some endless repeat of “Father Knows Best” or “Leave It To Beaver”.
And even then, those shows were fiction
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:43:44am |
Well on a sort of OT note but not really since apparently the movie pissed off some nutjobs. I finally saw Django Unchained. I may have liked ti even more than Inglorious Basterds.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:44:05am |
re: #195 Dr Lizardo
Precisely. What the Men’s Right’s types are really steamed about is that their lives aren’t some endless repeat of “Father Knows Best” or “Leave It To Beaver”.
And even then, those shows were fiction
Life is hard. The idea that anyone’s life could be harder than theirs seems unreal to them.
Reality bites. Life is harder for non-straight white males.
Work to keep all that Power and Control is harming all of us.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:44:16am |
re: #192 Dark_Falcon
One of the most brilliant dialogue exchanges in the history of comedy films.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:46:01am |
re: #196 HappyWarrior
Well on a sort of OT note but not really since apparently the movie pissed off some nutjobs. I finally saw Django Unchained. I may have liked ti even more than Inglorious Basterds.
They cannot comprehend that fact because they lack the empathy - or even the intellectual awareness - to do so. It is beyond their powers of comprehension.
Oops. Clicked the wrong post - sorry about that.
I also enjoyed Django Unchained more than Inglorious Basterds, even though in Inglorious Basterds, Christoph Waltz played a great villain. Truly hissworthy, yet sophisticated, intelligent and urbane.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:48:23am |
re: #197 FemNaziBitch
Life is hard. The idea that anyone’s life could be harder than theirs seems unreal to them.
Reality bites. Life is harder for non-straight white males.
They cannot comprehend that fact because they lack the empathy - or even the intellectual awareness - to do so. It is beyond their powers of comprehension.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:54:02am |
re: #199 Dr Lizardo
They cannot comprehend that fact because they lack the empathy - or even the intellectual awareness - to do so. It is beyond their powers of comprehension.
Oops. Clicked the wrong post - sorry about that.
I also enjoyed Django Unchained more than Inglorious Basterds, even though in Inglorious Basterds, Christoph Waltz played a great villain. Truly hissworthy, yet sophisticated, intelligent and urbane.
Yeah Waltz’s Landa is one of my favorite original characters in film in recent years. It was an impressive acting job too since Christoph spoke German, French, and English in the film as well as showing he could understand Italian.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:54:33am |
re: #138 FemNaziBitch
LAPD:
“Individuals who carry on long conversations on pay or cellular telephones”
Most of LA?
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:55:24am |
re: #202 jaunte
LAPD:
“Individuals who carry on long conversations on pay or cellular telephones”Most of LA?
I know—every girlfriend I know—always has the cell phone.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:55:38am |
re: #201 HappyWarrior
Yeah Waltz’s Landa is one of my favorite original characters in film in recent years. It was an impressive acting job too since Christoph spoke German, French, and English in the film as well as showing he could understand Italian.
It was a truly impressive performance.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:56:13am |
Kentucky Office of Homeland Security:
“Numerous visitors, such as “arriving and leaving at unusual hours” or “an unusual number of unrelated people living together”
My house.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:56:22am |
re: #202 jaunte
LAPD:
“Individuals who carry on long conversations on pay or cellular telephones”Most of LA?
99.3% of the Czech Republic. The LAPD would have a field day over here.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:58:26am |
re: #204 Dr Lizardo
It was a truly impressive performance.
It’s a good thing that Quentin decided to go with a native German speaker for the role. I had heard he wanted DiCaprio who I love but the movie wouldn’t have been the movie without Waltz. Also funny to have DiCaprio in DU as Calvin Candie. Tarantino’s really upped himself with me in recent years. He’s combined the arts of storytelling, humor, channeling our revenge fantasies, and creating some memorable characters. Can’t wait to see what he has in mind next.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 8:59:43am |
re: #205 jaunte
Kentucky Office of Homeland Security:
“Numerous visitors, such as “arriving and leaving at unusual hours” or “an unusual number of unrelated people living together”
My house.
In other words what most 20 somes do when they share an apartment and throw frequent parties.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:01:00am |
re: #208 HappyWarrior
In other words what most 20 somes do when they share an apartment and throw frequent parties.
No, we had a crack house in the neighborhood. There is a big difference. It was obvious. I guess the owner hadn’t paid their Homeowner Assoc dues in a couple of months and the Association was able to evict them. Police said that the Association did it quicker than they could have.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:02:27am |
re: #209 FemNaziBitch
No, we had a crack house in the neighborhood. There is a big difference. It was obvious. I guess the owner hadn’t paid their Homeowner Assoc dues in a couple of months and the Association was able to evict them. Police said that the Association did it quicker than they could have.
True, fair point.
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Romantic Heretic Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:05:34am |
re: #127 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
It’s speech that crowds out other speech. In fact, it’s obviation of the speech of others, since you’re paying them to say something.
Are you saying you disagree with all campaign finance laws and think that unrestricted political speech should be allowed?
It’s the modern version of shouting people down.
It was a favorite tactic of the Fascists and Marxists about a century ago. Have your supporters show up at an opponent’s rally and shout at the top of their lungs. Nobody can hear what your opponent says, which makes it difficult to vote for them. When the opponent’s supporters tried it at Fascist/Marxist rallies, siad supporters got hurt. Often because the police were on the Fascist/Marxist side.
Now, since money is speech and corporations are people those individuals who aren’t rich or corporations and parties are dependent on the wealthy’s money, regular people are shouted down.
It’s not surprising were rapidly becoming a corporatist state like Mussolini’s Italy.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:06:31am |
re: #211 Romantic Heretic
It’s the modern version of shouting people down.
It was a favorite tactic of the Fascists and Marxists about a century ago. Have your supporters show up at an opponent’s rally and shout at the top of their lungs. Nobody can hear what your opponent says, which makes it difficult to vote for them. When the opponent’s supporters tried it at Fascist/Marxist rallies, siad supporters got hurt. Often because the police were on the Fascist/Marxist side.
Now, since money is speech and corporations are people those individuals who aren’t rich or corporations and parties are dependent on the wealthy’s money, regular people are shouted down.
It’s not surprising were rapidly becoming a corporatist state like Mussolini’s Italy.
Like Bill O’Reilly?
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Patricia Kayden Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:18:32am |
re: #144 RadicalModerate
Didn’t know all that about Southern Baptists and the Civil Rights movement. They sound so “Christ-like”, don’t they?
I’m going to have to be direct when I speak to my ultra-religious sister who keeps citing the Bible to justify her anti-gay rants. I’ll have to remind her that the same people who are so strongly opposed to gay rights today were the same who were strongly opposed to civil rights back in the day. Don’t know if that will change her mind, but should at least make her think a little about what she is supporting.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:35:58am |
re: #207 HappyWarrior
It’s a good thing that Quentin decided to go with a native German speaker for the role. I had heard he wanted DiCaprio who I love but the movie wouldn’t have been the movie without Waltz. Also funny to have DiCaprio in DU as Calvin Candie. Tarantino’s really upped himself with me in recent years. He’s combined the arts of storytelling, humor, channeling our revenge fantasies, and creating some memorable characters. Can’t wait to see what he has in mind next.
I bought the movie and thought it was pretty good overall. I have always kind of had issues with Quentin’s directing style. I don’t know how he gets by with some the cheesy shit he puts up. I know he did it on purpose for Kill Bill 1 and 2 But it gets old for me.. Great story and movie but the whole time I couldn’t help but wonder how much better it would have been if Clint Eastwood had been the director.
I guess it’s like wine..Everyone can disagree and everybody can still be right at the same time.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:39:49am |
re: #216 HoosierHoops
I honestly think Reservoir Dogs was his best movie and everything else is pretty meh. Pulp Fiction really doesn’t re-watch that well.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:41:06am |
re: #217 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I honestly think Reservoir Dogs was his best movie and everything else is pretty meh. Pulp Fiction really doesn’t re-watch that well.
You know, I need to give RD another watch. I liked it but I didn’t like it as much as I did PF but I am always willing to give films other shots. My two favorite directors or should I say three are Scorsese and the Coens.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:41:53am |
re: #217 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I honestly think Reservoir Dogs was his best movie and everything else is pretty meh. Pulp Fiction really doesn’t re-watch that well.
I agree; however another film from that still does hold up: “Heavenly Creatures” directed by Peter Jackson.
IMO, best film 1994.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:42:25am |
re: #216 HoosierHoops
I bought the movie and thought it was pretty good overall. I have always kind of had issues with Quentin’s directing style. I don’t know how he gets by with some the cheesy shit he puts up. I know he did it on purpose for Kill Bill 1 and 2 But it gets old for me.. Great story and movie but the whole time I couldn’t help but wonder how much better it would have been if Clint Eastwood had been the director.
I guess it’s like wine..Everyone can disagree and everybody can still be right at the same time.
I think Eastwood would have made it too realist in feel. Tarantino I think intentionally goes for that fantasy feel. But hey, we can disagree and be cool as you say. I like Eastwood as a director too. I still need to see The Unforgiven. I am not a huge Western fan but everyone I’ve talked says it’s one of the best ever.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:45:17am |
re: #219 Dr Lizardo
I agree; however another film from that still does hold up: “Heavenly Creatures” directed by Peter Jackson.
IMO, best film 1994.
That year had a lot of good films didn’t it? Quiz Show is another one from that year that doesn’t get the talking about that PF, Forrest Gump, and Shawshank do. And I have to say while I thoroughly enjoyed Shawshank, I may have liked Green Mile even more but that’s no diss since I think Frank Darabont is great at adapting Stephen King.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:50:43am |
Cripes. Another fucking boring day in store for me.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:52:07am |
re: #220 HappyWarrior
I think Eastwood would have made it too realist in feel. Tarantino I think intentionally goes for that fantasy feel. But hey, we can disagree and be cool as you say. I like Eastwood as a director too. I still need to see The Unforgiven. I am not a huge Western fan but everyone I’ve talked says it’s one of the best ever.
Unforgiven is effen awesome..When Grand Torino came out I gave Eastwood a scathing review here at LGF. Boy some people were pissed that I dared shred the almighty Eastwood.
Among other aspects of the film I found lacking and shallow. His gang members depicted in the movie were cartoon characters of themselves that lacked even a good old fashion sterotype to fall back on. ( As much as he tried and failed )
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:57:25am |
re: #221 HappyWarrior
That year had a lot of good films didn’t it? Quiz Show is another one from that year that doesn’t get the talking about that PF, Forrest Gump, and Shawshank do. And I have to say while I thoroughly enjoyed Shawshank, I may have liked Green Mile even more but that’s no diss since I think Frank Darabont is great at adapting Stephen King.
The 90s in general was a very good decade for film. This decade began with a film that, in my opinion, will one day take its place in the canon of ‘Greatest Films of All Time’: “Once Upon A Time In Anatolia”, written and directed by Nuri Bilge Ceylan.
A masterpiece.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:57:34am |
Here's a blast from the past: @TheReidReport calling out Chris Matthews on WH press intimidation in 2005: http://t.co/NVBhjbN5Kf— Tommy Christopher (@tommyxtopher) June 2, 2013
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Interesting Times Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:57:47am |
re: #217 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Getting back to the whole MRA thing, I’d like to know what arguments you’d use to shoot down this bilge Sergey quoted a while ago:
…other than, “what a steaming pile of misogynist garbage”. To me, it seems like just a tired regurgitation of the whole “might makes right” thing, but I’d like to show why it’s wrong even if you use a self-interested, freakonomics, amoral perspective.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Jun 2, 2013 9:59:24am |
Eyehole-deep in muddy water
(as the lyric goes)
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:05:54am |
re: #226 Interesting Times
Well, it’s fundamental mistake is that it posits one-on-one situations. This little bit:
They fail to realize that men are stronger than women; if instead of asking for sexual access, men suddenly demanded it, there would be absolutely nothing women could do to stop men from taking it by force.
Is wrong in the following ways:
1. Not every man can physically overcome every woman.
2. Even though in general, men could overcome women, we don’t face off in 1 vs. 1 battles in this world.
3. “Men” will never do anything as a group, and fantasies about them doing so are just biologically impossible.
It’s like saying that really, people who are smaller and weaker than people who are 6 feet tall and well built don’t have autonomy because people taller and fitter than that could kill them or enslave them if we wanted to.
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Gus Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:08:31am |
Wow, @adamsbaldwin has really dumb followers.— Jesse Taylor (@jesseltaylor) June 2, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:09:08am |
re: #226 Interesting Times
TO put it another way:
Congrats, Mansplaining MRA advocate! We’ve decided to make the world go your way. Here is a woman for you to demand sex from.
Image: serena-williams-1024x798.jpg
Hop to it!
And yes, I know she’s an unusual woman physically, but there’s lots of very in-shape, tall women in the world, and there’s lots of women that grew up fighting and could kick the living shit out of the average MRA advocate.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:13:55am |
re: #230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
TO put it another way:
Congrats, Mansplaining MRA advocate! We’ve decided to make the world go your way. Here is a woman for you to demand sex from.
Image: serena-williams-1024x798.jpg
Hop to it!
And yes, I know she’s an unusual woman physically, but there’s lots of very in-shape, tall women in the world, and there’s lots of women that grew up fighting and could kick the living shit out of the average MRA advocate.
An ex-girlfriend of mine once (and accidentally) knocked all 6’3”, 181 lbs. of me flat on my ass from a right hook. And looking at her, you’d never even think her capable of such a thing; she was 5’3” and perhaps 105 lbs. soaking wet. I made the mistake of intervening between her and another young lady and ended up being the recipient of a punch - which knocked out a pre-molar by the way - I’d just as soon as forget.
Good luck to any MRA who think’s he’s getting anything out of her by force.
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BeenHereAwhile Sun, Jun 2, 2013 11:43:06am |
re: #214 Patricia Kayden
re: #144 RadicalModerate
‘Didn’t know all that about Southern Baptists and the Civil Rights movement. They sound so “Christ-like”, don’t they?’
I’m going to have to be direct when I speak to my ultra-religious sister who keeps citing the Bible to justify her anti-gay rants. I’ll have to remind her that the same people who are so strongly opposed to gay rights today were the same who were strongly opposed to civil rights back in the day. Don’t know if that will change her mind, but should at least make her think a little about what she is supporting.
The university I attended (in the 1960s) was part of the Southern Baptist Convention.
A year or so before, during a Southern Baptist mission to Africa, one of the missionary graduates converted an African gentleman to Christianity. The gentleman decided that he wanted to attend this university, and in doing so, became, IIRC, the first black to attend this southern university.
On the campus of this university there is a Southern Baptist church, and the gentleman (nice guy, knew and liked him) being an observant christian decided that he would attended services at this church.
After first being refused entrance (“there are ****** Baptist churches in this town, why don’t you attend them), the church and convention authorities under the glare of publicity, relented and allowed him to attend services on campus.
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