Rick Perry Mansplains Wendy Davis: ‘She Was a Teenage Mother Herself’

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Wow. Just when you think far right Texas Gov. Rick Perry couldn’t possibly get any nastier or more misogynistic: Rick Perry Attacks Wendy Davis: ‘She Was a Teenage Mother Herself’.

PERRY: In fact, even the woman who filibustered the Senate the other day was born into difficult circumstances. She was the daughter of a single woman, she was a teenage mother herself. She managed to eventually graduate from Harvard Law School and serve in the Texas senate. It is just unfortunate that she hasn’t learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters.

UPDATE at 6/27/13 11:14:33 am

State Sen. Wendy Davis responds:

Texas State Sen. Wendy Davis (D) responded to Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday, chiding him for using “small words” that tarnished Lone Star state values.

“They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view,” Davis told the Associated Press Thursday. “Our governor should reflect our Texas values. Sadly, Gov. Perry fails that test.”

She also added that his comment was “without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds.”

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495 comments
1 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:48:51am

Did Gov. Perry ever stop to think…


Nahh.

2 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:49:49am
3 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:50:11am

He followed that by saying something worse, like “If they’re all screaming we must be getting something done”.

4 Interesting Times  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:51:18am
5 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:51:49am

re: #3 Bulworth

He followed that by saying something worse, like “If they’re all screaming we must be getting something done”.

ALL U LIBRULZ WHO ARE DISAGREEING WITH ME ON TEH TWITTERZ AND DOWN DINGING ME ON TEH FACEBOOK PRUVZ TAHT I MUST BE TEH RIGHT!!11!!!

6 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:52:26am

Its almost like Davis knows how hard it is and wants to make sure other women don’t have to struggle the way she did.

7 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:53:30am

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

And yet Obama is “arrogant”. //

8 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:53:43am

Somewhere in the US, Reince Priebus is slumped into a chair, crying, working his way through a bottle of Scotch, muttering something about rebranding.

9 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:53:44am

“Right to life”. Fucking hypocrites: Texas Carries Out 500th Execution

10 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:53:56am

I hope she runs for governor. I will absolutely give her my time and my money to help.

Fuck you, Goodhair.

11 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:54:28am
Lidane said this downstairs

littlegreenfootballs.com

Wendy Davis set a hell of an example for her kid. Yeah, she was a single mom at 19, living in a trailer home. She’s been open about that. She’s ALSO been open about how she took a chance and went to community college to become a paralegal to give her child a better life. She then got a scholarship to Texas Christian University and then put herself through Harvard Law.

The problem is that she was able to do this; it is no benefit to the men if them wimmens can actually do something to get ahead.

12 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:55:31am

Seems like it might be time for more #gopoutreachslogans

13 BroncD  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:55:31am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

Right to some life.

14 elizajane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:56:03am

re: #3 Bulworth

He followed that by saying something worse, like “If they’re all screaming we must be getting something done”.

My sister-in-law was one of the screaming ones there in the gallery. The women of Texas will not be silenced!

15 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:56:42am

re: #14 elizajane

Some great comebacks to that “screaming” bit on my timeline.

16 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:57:37am

re: #8 Kragar

Somewhere in the US, Reince Priebus is slumped into a chair, crying, working his way through a bottle of Scotch, muttering something about rebranding.

Where did I put my tiny violin?

I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating. Today’s GOP is a death cult. Nothing could be more hypocritical than the TX GOP getting all sanctimonious about “life” in connection with draconian abortion restrictions while simultaneously running the biggest judicial murder racket in the nation.

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:57:55am

re: #12 Kragar

Seems like it might be time for more #gopoutreachslogans

“No way, Jose.”

18 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:58:01am

Dear Gov. Perry,

Will you just shut the fuck up? Please?

No love,
Me.

19 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:58:18am

re: #3 Bulworth

He followed that by saying something worse, like “If they’re all screaming we must be getting something done”.

I’m sure Ed Gein and Richard Speck said the same thing at some point.

20 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:58:36am

He says: “The ideal world, of course, is a world without abortion.”
Of course, that’s not going to be the result of his policies but he’s too damned stupid or cruel to understand that.

21 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:59:29am

re: #20 jaunte

He says: “The ideal world, of course, is a world without abortion.”
Of course, that’s not going to be the result of his policies but he’s too damned stupid or cruel to understand that.

The ideal world is also free of rape and has women in complete control of their reproductive rights.

22 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:59:47am

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

23 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:59:52am

re: #20 jaunte

The NRLC has also expressed to Perry their desire, maybe even demand, that the governor ensure that Medicaid is expanded in Texas. Right?

//

24 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:01:39am

re: #18 Romantic Heretic

Dear Gov. Perry,

Will you just shut the fuck up? Please?

No love,
Me.

I’m in more of a ‘Please proceed’ mindset.

25 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:02:13am

Perry:

“Even in Texas, where the unborn are already more protected than in most places, nearly 80,000 unborn children are lost to abortion each year. Every time I hear that statistic, it breaks my heart; nearly 80,000 lives lost before taking their first breath.”

He’s pretending that ‘pro-lifers’ in Texas are going to adopt 80,000 children a year. Fat chance.

26 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:02:34am

George Takei posted this on facebook - what gay marriage is not responsible for at straight weddings…watch it.

Youtube Video

28 AlexRogan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:03:14am

Damn, Perry is a patronizing fuckhead, isn’t he?

29 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:03:58am

re: #25 jaunte

Perry:

He’s pretending that ‘pro-lifers’ in Texas are going to adopt 80,000 children a year. Fat chance.

Not just that, he’s also hoping they are going to find some way to PAY for those children without government assistance. You know, bootstraps and all.

30 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:05:14am

Speaking of fuckheads:


Zimmerman lawyer says ‘creepy a** cracker’ 7 times to claim Trayvon ‘put race in this’

Don West, a defense attorney for murder suspect George Zimmerman, on Thursday used the term “creepy ass cracker” seven times in a span of about three minutes to try to make the point that slain teen Trayvon Martin was the one who had made his own death into a racial incident.

In her second day of testimony, West pressed witness Rachel Jeantel about a phone conversation she had with Martin moments before he was shot to death by Zimmerman.

“So when you say it’s a racial event, what did he tell you that makes you think it’s a racial event?” West asked.

Jeantel said that Martin thought it was “strange” that he was being “stalked” by Zimmerman.

“That’s because he described him as a ‘creepy ass cracker’?” West wondered. “So, it was racial, but it was because Trayvon Martin put race in this.”

31 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:05:22am

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t believe he or his children have adopted any of the numerous kids waiting for adoption in Texas, so he should put up or shut up.

32 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:05:39am

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just that, he’s also hoping they are going to find some way to PAY for those children without government assistance. You know, bootstraps and all.

ABOLISH CHILD LABOR LAWS AND MINIMUM WAGE!!1 MAKE THEM WORK FOR GRUEL!!!111

33 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:06:00am
34 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:06:10am

re: #32 Vicious Babushka

HOW ELSE ARE WE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE CHINESE?
/

35 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:06:28am

re: #25 jaunte

“And if we make it that womenz can’t murder their babies in clinics anymore, I mean if we ‘protect women’s health’, there won’t be any more baby killing, except for in back alleys and like that. But those won’t count. “

36 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:06:55am

re: #31 jaunte

I don’t believe he or his children have adopted any of the numerous kids waiting for adoption in Texas, so he should put up or shut up.

They would totally adopt a whole bunch of kids as long as they could be allowed to put them to work on factory farms and at fertilizer factories for less than minimum wage.

37 Jayleia  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:07:01am

re: #8 Kragar

I’ll buy him all the sleeping pills he wants.

38 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:07:09am
39 AlexRogan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:07:15am

re: #30 Kragar

Speaking of fuckheads:


Zimmerman lawyer says ‘creepy a** cracker’ 7 times to claim Trayvon ‘put race in this’

DARVO to the nth degree.

40 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:07:49am
41 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:08:05am

re: #25 jaunte

Perry:

He’s pretending that ‘pro-lifers’ in Texas are going to adopt 80,000 children a year. Fat chance.

and where is the money to assure that those babies are born healthy?
the money to address the schools necessary to teach them?
the funding to hire those teachers?
the doctors to treat those kids?

don’t want the kids? then where are the free contraceptives and morning after pills?

If they were as caring about the fetus and the subsequent children that follow then where is all of that? Do we start having unwanted births dropped on the courthouse steps to prove a point?

42 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:08:06am

AND REOPEN TEH TRIANGLE SHIRTWASTE FACTORY IN TEXAS!!11 BRING TEH GARMENT INDUSTRY BACK TO THE USA!!!1111

43 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:08:07am

re: #20 jaunte

He says: “The ideal world, of course, is a world without abortion.”

“And so, today I am announcing that Texas will be radically increasing our funding for contraception. No woman should ever have to worry about unwanted pregnancies again. And to accomplish this, we’re going to write a big check to Planned Parenthood, whose work in women’s health has been so important to reducing the number of unplanned pregnancies, and thus reducing abortion.”

Ah, well. A man can dream.

44 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:08:24am

re: #30 Kragar

Speaking of fuckheads:


Zimmerman lawyer says ‘creepy a** cracker’ 7 times to claim Trayvon ‘put race in this’

I had a response to that line of idiocy.

45 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:08:54am

re: #41 piratedan

don’t want the kids? then where are the free contraceptives and morning after pills?

HERE IS AN ASPIRIN FOR U SLUTZ TO PUT BETWEEN UR KNEEZ!!!!

46 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:09:00am

I am sick to death of all these conservative and Republican men trying to mansplain life to women.

Until you GOP assholes can get pregnant and have to go through the experience of being young, broke, crying, and scared because the condom broke and your period is late, then spare me all your goddamn moralizing about abortion. Just fuck right off with that noise.

I’ve been lucky that I’ve never been in a position where I had to contemplate getting an abortion. But I’m also grateful to at least have the choice. Assholes like Perry and all these sanctimonious “pro-life” pricks would deny women their fundamental rights. That’s disgusting.

47 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:09:41am

re: #26 darthstar

George Takei posted this on facebook - what gay marriage is not responsible for at straight weddings…watch it.

I’ve seen that clip before. That drunk girl was damned lucky she didn’t do that while they were cutting the cake and the bride had a knife in her hand, because that bride looked pissed.

48 CarleeCork  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:09:45am

re: #41 piratedan

These assholes aren’t pro-life, they’re pro-birth.

49 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:10:05am

Wendy Davis responds.

Wendy Davis: Gov. Perry ‘tarnishes’ office with attack

“Rick Perry’s statement is without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds. They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view. Our governor should reflect our Texas values. Sadly, Gov. Perry fails that test.”

50 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:10:26am

Fox News host: DOMA ruling a ‘conservative victory’ because it makes gays less slutty

Fox News talk show co-host Greg Gutfeld told a panel on Wednesday’s episode of “The Five” that he believes the Supreme Court’s rulings on same sex marriage are actually “a huge conservative victory” because it will make LGBT people less promiscuous, then suggested that it’s time “gay activists” just give it a rest already and focus on “radical Islam.”

“Yeah, I don’t have any legal expertise in this matter whatsoever,” Gutfeld said. “I feel that this is a huge conservative victory, because you can no longer deprive someone of an extremely traditional value that makes you life better by curtailing promiscuity and destructive lifestyles.”

“Talking about myself,” he added, “marriage to my wife made me a better man. I want to impose that value on others, because that’s what rightwingers do.”

I’m beginning to think fucktarded is an actual serious medical disability which makes people conservative.

51 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:11:00am

re: #48 CarleeCork

Exactly. They just celebrated their what? 500th execution down there?

52 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:11:07am

re: #48 CarleeCork

These assholes aren’t pro-life, they’re pro-birth.

No, they are just pro-fetus, they won’t help a woman who goes into the hospital to give birth and needs an emergency C-section.

53 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:11:46am

re: #49 Bubblehead II

Wendy Davis responds.

Wendy Davis: Gov. Perry ‘tarnishes’ office with attack

“Rick Perry’s statement is without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds. They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view. Our governor should reflect our Texas values. Sadly, Gov. Perry fails that test.”

I think Wendy could get into that office and shine things up a bit. By being elected to that office, of course.

54 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:11:54am
“Even in Texas, where the unborn are already more protected than in most places, nearly 80,000 unborn children are lost to abortion each year we’ve executed 500 vicious killers. Every time I hear that statistic, it breaks my heart; nearly 80,000 lives lost before taking their first breath we could have killed so many more.”

modfied

55 AntonSirius  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:12:03am

re: #50 Kragar

I want to impose that value on others, because that’s what rightwingers do.

QFT

56 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:12:05am

re: #49 Bubblehead II

Wendy Davis responds.

Wendy Davis: Gov. Perry ‘tarnishes’ office with attack

“Rick Perry’s statement is without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds. They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view. Our governor should reflect our Texas values. Sadly, Gov. Perry fails that test.”

I so hope she runs for governor one day. Anne Richards would be proud.

57 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:12:46am

re: #50 Kragar

It’s a victory, it’s the end of civilization. Will these damn people make up their minds?

58 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:13:51am

re: #39 AlexRogan

DARVO to the nth degree.

What Travon said to his girlfriend has nothing to do with Zimmerman’s motives.

59 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:13:55am
60 chadu  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:14:26am

re: #12 Kragar

Seems like it might be time for more #gopoutreachslogans

GOP: We don’t like government getting into your business, except if it’s government getting up into your business, ladies. #gopoutreachslogans

61 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:14:42am

re: #50 Kragar

“Talking about myself,” he added, “marriage to my wife made me a better man.

Well, that’s kind of a low bar.

62 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:14:47am

State Sen. Davis Responds to Rick Perry’s ‘Small Words’ | TPM LiveWire

Texas State Sen. Wendy Davis (D) responded to Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday, chiding him for using “small words” that tarnished Lone Star state values.

Perry invoked Davis’ experience as a teenage mother at the National Right to Life conference in Dallas Thursday, telling attendees that it was “unfortunate” that she “hasn’t learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters.”

“They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view,” Davis told the Associated Press Thursday. “Our governor should reflect our Texas values. Sadly, Gov. Perry fails that test.”

She also added that his comment was “without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds.”

63 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:14:59am
64 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:15:12am

re: #53 wrenchwench

re: #56 makeitstop

If I lived in Texas I would vote for her.

65 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:15:14am

Gov. NuckingFuts strikes again.

66 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:16:10am

I’d love to see Wendy Davis on the national stage but, right now, Texas needs her.

67 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:16:14am

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

Making friends and influencing people, she is. /

68 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:16:25am

re: #59 darthstar

We hail someone willing to go 13 hours without sitting or leaning, without a drink, without a bathroom break, in defense of freedom.

They hail someone who couldn’t even finish a single term as governor of one of the emptiest of the big empty states, because it was too hard.

69 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:16:35am

re: #67 lawhawk

Making friends and influencing people, she is. /

Re-Branding!

70 AlexRogan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:16:37am

re: #57 Bulworth

It’s a victory, it’s the end of civilization. Will these damn people make up their minds?

It’s a victory, because, to them, it will hasten the end of civilization and bring about the End Times.

Win-win.

71 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:17:16am

Mah surprise, let me show you it:

72 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:17:25am

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

That’s part and parcel with Ann’s assessments on low Hispanic support for the GOPer in the MA Sen. race.

73 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:17:48am

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

Rebranding!

74 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:18:20am

re: #60 chadu

75 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:19:26am

re: #66 Whack-A-Mole

I’d love to see Wendy Davis on the national stage but, right now, Texas needs her.

She should run for Texas Gov in 2014…but 2020 or 2024 she would be ripe for POTUS contention.

76 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:19:50am

re: #64 Bubblehead II

If I lived in Texas I would vote for her.

I live in Texas and I hope she gives me a chance to vote for her.

My state Senator is Kirk Watson, so at least I’m represented by someone worthwhile. But I’d give anything to be able to cast my ballot for Wendy Davis for governor. She’s awesome.

I’d easily take her or Julian Castro in the governor’s mansion.

77 chadu  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:20:11am

re: #74 Joanne

Thanks!

78 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:20:15am

re: #61 jaunte

Well, that’s kind of a low bar.

well that means that he’s been a reprehensible fuck all along then

79 CarleeCork  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:20:17am

re: #66 Whack-A-Mole

I’d love to see Wendy Davis on the national stage but, right now, Texas needs her.

I DO live in Texas, Sen Davis will make an excellent governor.

80 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:21:09am

re: #74 Joanne

“Just lie back and think of Reagan.”

81 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:21:10am

What Perry left unsaid was “Of course, the purpose of my governorship to date has been to ensure that women like Davis would never have had the opportunities she had, because women ought to realize their place is in the home, not in the state Senate.”

82 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:21:10am

DERP

83 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:21:25am

re: #77 chadu

Thanks!

Welcome!

84 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:22:09am

re: #80 Kragar

85 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:22:50am

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

You mean, besides the kids that the GOP wouldn’t mind seeing working in factories if they were able to roll back worker protections and child worker protections? /

86 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:22:53am

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

DERP

I’m having real difficulty maintaining a state of calm when I hear fucking bullshit like that.

87 BroncD  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:23:37am

This past week has seen a lot of clueless racists trying to pretend that cracker qualifies as an actual racial slur. Speaking as a bona fide corn-fed white boy, I can assure you that none of us gives one fat shit about being called cracker. There is no fucking comparison between cracker and, you know, actual racial slurs.

88 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:23:52am

re: #86 Kragar

I’m having real difficulty maintaining a state of calm when I hear fucking bullshit like that.

But the hashtag stands for “Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled”

89 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:24:02am

re: #72 lawhawk

The Republicans think that having a token minority candidate will cause minority voters to swing to them.

Another form of racism from Republicans: Assuming low intelligence of others to not see how the policies would hurt them.

90 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:24:28am

re: #87 BroncD

This past week has seen a lot of clueless racists trying to pretend that cracker qualifies as an actual racial slur. Speaking as a bona fide corn-fed white boy, I can assure you that none of us gives one fat shit about being called cracker. There is no fucking comparison between cracker and, you know, actual racial slurs.

Eminem said that being called “Cracker” made him into a better rapper.//

91 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:24:31am

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

DERP

like those vicious fucks have ever lived on a side of town where there aren’t any playgrounds

92 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:25:19am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

But the hashtag stands for “Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled”

Which kids do you think will end up parents before they can take care of the children when you look at a playground, Laura?

93 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:26:16am

Someone said that based on her background (being 19, from Haitian/DR descent, creole spoken at home, unable to read or write cursive, etc.) that she probably doesn’t know from where “Cracker” was derived.

Interesting point.

94 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:26:47am

re: #89 ProTARDISLiberal

“Another form of racism from Republicans: Assuming low intelligence of others to not see how the policies would hurt them.”

/// You mean the GOP hates the TPers?

95 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:27:33am

Wingnuts posting racist Derp about Rachel Jeantal. Stay classy! (not embedding any of that here, have flagged media)

96 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:27:42am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

Let Not Your Hate Be Tamed.

97 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:27:42am

Ted Baehr: Gay Marriage Supporters Creating Tyranny and ‘Are Subject to Indictment, Trial and Just Punishment - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Adding to the list of off-the-wall reactions to the Supreme Court’s decisions on two same-sex marriage cases, Religious Right activist Ted Baehr of Movieguide released a statement demanding that all officials who back marriage equality be “subject to indictment, trial and just punishment.”

He claimed that same-sex marriage is part of a Marxist plan to “abolish marriage and the family” and may one day allow dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin to rise to power in America.

“The Supreme Court’s decision today is absolutely criminal,” according to Baehr, arguing that neither the government nor voters “have the right to legalize same-sex marriage,” as it violates “God’s law” and the First Amendment’s protection of “the freedom to worship.”

98 Jayleia  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:28:06am

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

What was he like before?!

99 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:28:19am

re: #94 Bubblehead II

Interesting thought, but no.

I’m assuming the Republicans believe the Bell Curve to be true. They are following that old, discredited trope.

100 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:29:01am

TPM: “Perry followed up by petitioning the federal government to allow Texas to rename itself the ‘state of Mansplainia’. “

101 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:29:26am

re: #97 Kragar

Ted Baehr: Gay Marriage Supporters Creating Tyranny and ‘Are Subject to Indictment, Trial and Just Punishment - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Christ, what a fucking dumbass. How does he not shit himself daily?

102 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:29:26am

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

Less government. Freedom. Don’t Tread On Me.

103 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:30:17am

re: #97 Kragar

I wonder if they ever get tired of repeating the same over the top predictions that never ever materialize.

104 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:30:19am

Brilliant take down of asshole by Rep Tammy Duckworth.

Just. fucking. brilliant.

Youtube Video

105 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:30:47am

re: #97 Kragar

He claimed that same-sex marriage is part of a Marxist plan to “abolish marriage and the family” and may one day allow dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin to rise to power in America.

Not Marxist. Secular Humanist Radical Sharia Law of Islamic Front. //

106 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:31:02am

re: #102 Bulworth

Less government. Freedom. Don’t Tread On Me.

Don’t tread on me. Tread on Her. And on Those People.

107 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:32:10am

re: #81 Targetpractice

What Perry left unsaid was “Of course, the purpose of my governorship to date has been to ensure that women like Davis would never have had the opportunities she had, because women ought to realize their place is in the home, not in the state Senate. hand out sweetheart deals to my campaign donors.”

Not all pork is financial in nature.

108 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:32:40am

re: #101 GeneJockey

Thankfully I wasn’t trying to swallow anything when I read that. Else it would have ended up on my computer screens.

109 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:32:52am

re: #97 Kragar

Hitler and Stalin were well-known for their pro-gay agenda.

derp.

110 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:33:39am
Texas State Sen. Wendy Davis (D) responded to Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday, chiding him for using “small words” that tarnished Lone Star state values.

Now now, Wendy. Don’t pick on him just because he lacks the cognitive ability to string 2 syllables together.

111 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:33:56am

Speaking of giant douches:
“NEEDS” created by “Trends”

112 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:34:41am
113 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:34:50am

re: #97 Kragar

He claimed that same-sex marriage is part of a Marxist plan to “abolish marriage and the family” and may one day allow dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin to rise to power in America.

Not Marxist. The Radical Marxist-Leninist Front of Radical Islam. I fcking hate the gdamn ‘Marxists’.

114 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:35:00am

Expanding on the ‘fucking dumbass’ comment:

He claimed that same-sex marriage is part of a Marxist plan to “abolish marriage and the family” and may one day allow dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin to rise to power in America.

IIRC, both pre-Nazi Germany and pre-Soviet Russia had only ‘Traditional Marriage’, and lots and lots of families, and no same-sex marriage, and yet that didn’t prevent dictators who actually WERE Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin from rising to power.

History - how does it work?

115 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:35:37am

re: #99 ProTARDISLiberal

Interesting thought, but no.

I’m assuming the Republicans believe the Bell Curve to be true. They are following that old, discredited trope.

Oh, I agree. I was just remembering that gif/jpeg picture from the last election mocking the tpers. The one with the guy and all the money bags on one side and a tper on the other.

116 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:35:43am

re: #113 Bulworth

Not Marxist. The Radical Marxist-Leninist Front of Radical Islam. I fcking hate the gdamn ‘Marxists’.

SPLITTER!

117 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:36:04am

re: #113 Bulworth

splitters!

118 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:36:24am

re: #97 Kragar

Posted by Taliban loon:

“The Supreme Court’s decision today is absolutely criminal,” according to Baehr, arguing that neither the government nor voters “have the right to legalize same-sex marriage,” as it violates “God’s law” and the First Amendment’s protection of “the freedom to worship.”

Still waiting for that first secular argument against gay marriage. Still hearing crickets.

Also, what “criminal” statute did the Supreme Court violate here, Teddy?

120 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:37:06am

re: #115 Bubblehead II

It’s what I thought of now too. But I tend to focus on trees as compared to the forest, and didn’t see that at first.

121 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:37:36am

re: #108 Bulworth

Thankfully I wasn’t trying to swallow anything when I read that. Else it would have ended up on my computer screens.

It’s these little unsolicited testimonials that keep me going…

122 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:39:27am

Wiles: Americans ‘Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama’s Communist Revolution

Wouldn’t crossing the border into Mexico be easier?
/

123 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:40:33am

re: #122 Kragar

Wiles: Americans ‘Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama’s Communist Revolution

Wouldn’t crossing the border into Mexico be easier?
/

I prefer Canada. More trees

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:40:40am

re: #48 CarleeCork

These assholes aren’t pro-life, they’re pro-birth.

they aren’t even pro-birth…they are pro-slut shaming and making absolutely certain that the women are punished…for the rest of their lives.

125 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:40:43am

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

126 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:40:48am

re: #122 Kragar

Wiles: Americans ‘Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama’s Communist Revolution

Wouldn’t crossing the border into Mexico be easier?
/

it’s known that the coast guard is using sharks with fricken laser beams now….

127 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:41:40am

re: #123 GeneJockey

I prefer Canada. More trees

And less fence.

128 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:41:44am

re: #122 Kragar

Wiles: Americans ‘Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama’s Communist Revolution

Wouldn’t crossing the border into Mexico be easier?
/

Please. As if any of these idiots would go to a country full of brown people that speak Spanish.

I eagerly await the flotillas from the Deep South up the Mississippi to Minnesota, where the coyotes will then sneak them into Canada. That should be entertaining.

129 A Mom Anon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:42:43am

re: #126 piratedan

I’d happily help them build those rafts, rent those boats, whatever it takes…. I’m a giver, you’re welcome.

130 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:10am

Wiles: Americans ‘Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama’s Communist Revolution

i will gladly start a fund to buy you all rafts and get your dumbasses outta mah face as soon as humanely possible

131 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:17am

re: #122 Kragar

Wiles: Americans ‘Will Float on Rafts to Cuba to Get Away from El Presidente Obama’s Communist Revolution

Wouldn’t crossing the border into Mexico be easier?
/

That’s why McCain wants it fortified to Berlin Wall levels *now*.
;P

132 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:20am

Robertson warns on LGBT marriages: God could do something ‘drastic’ like Sodom and Gomorrah

Yeah, PitPat. I’m sure the next time the US gets hit by an earthquake, hurricane or tornado, it will be directly caused by gay marriage and not just another natural disaster like hundreds of other.

133 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:21am

re: #128 Lidane

Canada is out too. Socialized medicine.

134 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:33am

re: #128 Lidane

If that happened, I would be glad. We could then put out a call for more immigrants to settle the area, people who would actually be glad to be Americans.

135 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:42am

re: #129 A Mom Anon

I’d happily help them build those rafts, rent those boats, whatever it takes…. I’m a giver, you’re welcome.

oooo beat me to it by 27 seconds…

136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:43:53am

re: #132 Kragar

Soddom And Gomorrah were punished for insufficient hospitality to strangers.

137 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:44:04am

re: #133 Whack-A-Mole

Canada is out too. Socialized medicine.

Yes. But it’s full of white people that speak English. That’s important to these morons.

138 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:44:53am

A pathetic grifter says what?

139 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:44:57am

re: #136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Soddom And Gomorrah were punished for insufficient hospitality to strangers.

I know that, and you know that, but PitPat is still confused.

140 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:45:09am

re: #136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

“Insufficient Hospitality” in this case is an understatement in the same way that Hurricane Katrina was a thunderstorm.

141 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:46:17am

re: #136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Soddom And Gomorrah were punished for insufficient hospitality to strangers.

That’s a delicate euphemism for RAPING THE HOMELESS.

142 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:46:23am

re: #122 Kragar

I had to click through to see what boogeyman was responsible for this outburst. I see it’s immigration and gay marriage. Hmm…..nope, nope, I’ve searched “The State and Revolution” and haven’t found the chapters on how same-sex marriage will lead to the overthrow of the bourgeoisie.

143 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:47:44am

DERP
Do u know the difference between a 5-month old infant and a fetus at 20 weeks of gestation? Didn’t think so.

144 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:48:26am

GOP Whip blames Obama as why the House can’t get anything done on immigration

“If you’re the White House right now,” Roskam told reporters, “and you have a signature law—that is, Obamacare—that is completely a legacy issue for the president, and it’s looking like implementation is going to be a disaster, and if you’re on your heels in terms of these scandals, and you’re flummoxed by the NSA, there’s one issue out there that’s good for the White House. That’s immigration. The question is: How much energy does the White House actually put into getting the legislation, or do they want to keep the issue for 2014?”

That’s a tortured way of saying Obama probably wants Republicans to kill immigration reform so he can distract the public from various other failures in 2014. You’d think the obvious move for Republicans would be to deny Obama the satisfaction by passing something that we’d all recognize as immigration reform. But they can’t do that. So they’re left with claiming their inability to do what they set out to do after the election is a somehow the result of Obama’s mysterious conniving.

145 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:48:35am
146 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:49:16am

re: #118 Ian G.

I’ll give that a try (a secular argument against SSM - not that I agree with it):

Legislatures can enact criminal laws that are malum in se or malum prohibitum. Some crimes are evil on their face that the criminality is easily understood (think rape, murder, etc.).

Some crimes are regulatory in nature, and homosexual relations are in the latter category. The legislature, based on societial norms and standards has determined that these relationships are illegal, just as it has found that underage sexual relations is illegal - as between someone who is 16 and someone who is 18 or older (malum prohibitum rather than malum in se).

The argument that denying SSM in the case of DOMA violates the Equal Protection clause is flawed because Congress regularly determines the eligibility for federal benefits (by income level, child dependents, other dependends, etc.) Congress by its legislative power can determine the eligibility for federal benefits as it sees fit, and if it wishes to address this in the future, it should do so (rather than have the court dictate from the bench).

There ya go.

By doing so, they are furthering a societial good.

147 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:50:10am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Do u know the difference between a 5-month old infant and a fetus at 20 weeks of gestation? Didn’t think so.

I know countless conservatives who are perfectly okay with killing a 20 year old to teach them a lesson.

148 Blue Point Nines 09  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:50:14am

Quote;
Texas State Sen. Wendy Davis (D) responded to Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday, chiding him for using “small words” that tarnished Lone Star state values.
“They are small words that reflect a dark and negative point of view,” Davis told the Associated Press Thursday. “Our governor should reflect our Texas values. Sadly, Gov. Perry fails that test.”
She also added that his comment was “without dignity and tarnishes the high office he holds.”
snip..
Rick Perry speaks as one with three brain cells struggling to hold hands as his vile hatred and petty personality rushes out of his mouth. Piece of shit jerk off. Small, small man with a big,big mouth and NO character. Your GOP in action.

149 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:50:27am

I still boggle at the “thinking” that goes into declaring that your religious freedom is threatened by two strangers marrying. But then I also boggle at the “thinking” that goes into declaring that same-sex marriage is the slippery slope to the institution of Shariah Law, which is even less gay-friendly than any laws America ever had.

150 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:50:28am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

How about 19-week old babies? Are the wingnuts OK with that? If not, make the bill cover 19 weeks. Or what about 18 weeks? Or 17? How about 11? Or 7? If it’s murder, it’s murder, innit?

151 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:50:42am

re: #147 Kragar

I know countless conservatives who are perfectly okay with killing a 20 year old to teach them a lesson.

Killing a 17-year-old because he called them a “crazy ass cracker”

152 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:51:04am

re: #137 Lidane

Yes. But it’s full of white people that speak English. That’s important to these morons.

knowing these assholes, they’d move to Quebec and try and implement a southern Baptist state religion.

153 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:52:05am

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

He’s a fuckin’ wanker, to borrow from the Brits.

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:52:10am

re: #141 Vicious Babushka

That’s a delicate euphemism for RAPING THE HOMELESS.

not to mention offering up the daughters for rape so the visiting angels would be unmolested…

155 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:52:31am

re: #133 Whack-A-Mole

Canada is out too. Socialized medicine.

unfortunately for the morons in question, there are almost no countries that are less socialized than the united states

156 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:53:06am

re: #155 engineer cat

unfortunately for the morons in question, there are almost no countries that are less socialized than the united states

“Welcome to Somalia, Libertarian paradise!”

157 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:53:41am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Do u know the difference between a 5-month old infant and a fetus at 20 weeks of gestation? Didn’t think so.

Are you kidding? These folks think it is a baby before it is even implanted into the uterine wall.

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:54:33am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Do u know the difference between a 5-month old infant and a fetus at 20 weeks of gestation? Didn’t think so.

picture I posted the other night:

this is not a human being

159 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:54:41am

re: #136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Soddom And Gomorrah were punished for insufficient hospitality to strangers.

you’re not supposed to use the actual bible

they only recognize the wingnut version

160 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:54:56am
161 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:54:58am

re: #157 Joanne

This is what happens when you think religious texts are scientific research.

162 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:55:06am

Also, my cousin (the one not in Colorado) just bragged on FB about killing a Centipede with a lighter.

Only reason I am keeping my last name is my Grandfather.

163 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:55:27am
…EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM PDT /11 AM MST/
FRIDAY TO 8 PM PDT /8 PM MST/ MONDAY FOR ELEVATIONS BELOW 6000 FEET…

A MASSIVE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL EXPAND FURTHER NORTH ACROSS
THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST LEADING TO AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF EXCEEDINGLY
HOT TEMPERATURES. RECORD TO NEAR RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES CAN BE
EXPECTED FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY.

HERE ARE SOME FORECAST HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR THE PERIOD. LAS VEGAS
MCCARRAN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT) 114 TO 117…MESQUITE AND THE
COLORADO RIVER VALLEY 118 TO 125…PAHRUMP 111 TO 114…BARSTOW 114
TO 118…MORONGO BASIN 110 TO 115…KINGMAN 108 TO 112…BISHOP 106
TO 108…CALIENTE 105 TO 108…AND DEATH VALLEY 126 TO 129.

forecast.weather.gov

164 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:55:34am

re: #153 ProTARDISLiberal

He’s a fuckin’ wanker, to borrow from the Brits.

That would suggest he’s “ended a lot of life.”

165 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:55:53am

re: #160 Gus

Apparently South Jersey is under a freaking tornado watch until 10.

166 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:56:10am

re: #164 jaunte

That would suggest he’s “ended a lot of life.”

I have becum Shiva, destroyer of worlds…

167 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:56:10am

According to Perry and his cohorts, this has a right to life, but the woman carrying it does not. This embryo would never make it to 20 weeks, because it would kill its mother before then, if it were not removed. It started growing in the Fallopian tube. That’s an ectopic pregnancy.

168 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:56:35am

re: #165 Mattand

Apparently South Jersey is under a freaking tornado watch until 10.

THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH, GAY MARRIAGE!

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:56:40am

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

well, sure, abstinence works but you have to be actually abstinent…

170 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:56:56am

re: #164 jaunte

Well, between 500 executions, and the West, Texas disaster (among other things), I think that is true.

171 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:57:01am

re: #159 engineer cat

you’re not supposed to use the actual bible

they only recognize the wingnut version

Sodom and Gomorrah were Libertarian societies, where it was a crime to help the poor and needy, and where the homeless could be raped with impunity. Nothing is mentioned about their sexual habits.

172 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:57:21am

re: #165 Mattand

Apparently South Jersey is under a freaking tornado watch until 10.

Hottest ever for DV was 134 °F in 1913.

en.wikipedia.org

173 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:57:24am

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

apparently there are a lot of miraculous teenage virgin births in Texas…

174 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:57:41am

re: #163 Gus

forecast.weather.gov

But Global Warming is still a huge hoax right?

175 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:59:03am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently there are a lot of miraculous teenage virgin births in Texas…

Boys will be boys, and those dirty sluts can’t keep their legs closed.
///

176 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:59:54am

re: #163 Gus

forecast.weather.gov

We’re getting smoked here. Fires all around us. The biggest one has been burning for three weeks, and usually sending its smoke a different direction, but the wind shifted, and it looks like the sun is setting right now.

177 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:00:09pm

And people wonder why I won’t move to the South when I could be making more money there.

Because I have 2 daughters who mean more to me than a bank account.

178 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:00:29pm

re: #160 Gus

Meh. Get back to me when someplace where people actually live get 100+ temps. Oh wait.

Tempe temps this week: 111, 115, 117, 115, 111.

But it’s a dry heat. /////

Seriously though, I’ve been to Stovepipe Wells, and getting there is driving through some seriously gorgeous country.

179 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:01:29pm

re: #168 Kragar

THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH, GAY MARRIAGE!

Don’t worry Chirs “I’m kinda okay with discrimination” Christie is on the case:

Christie slams high court, calls DOMA ruling a ‘bad decision’

180 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:02:14pm

re: #101 GeneJockey

How does he not shit himself daily?

Assuming facts not in evidence, your honor.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:03:21pm

re: #150 Bulworth

How about 19-week old babies? Are the wingnuts OK with that? If not, make the bill cover 19 weeks. Or what about 18 weeks? Or 17? How about 11? Or 7? If it’s murder, it’s murder, innit?

This is why they are pushing the personhood crap…like in Arizona where life begins two weeks before actual conception…

182 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:05:25pm

re: #150 Bulworth

How about 19-week old babies? Are the wingnuts OK with that? If not, make the bill cover 19 weeks. Or what about 18 weeks? Or 17? How about 11? Or 7? If it’s murder, it’s murder, innit?

Life begins at arousal.

183 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:05:36pm

re: #179 Mattand

Don’t worry Chirs “I’m kinda okay with discrimination” Christie is on the case:

Christie slams high court, calls DOMA ruling a ‘bad decision’

Sounds like someone still has plans for 2016.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:05:56pm

re: #163 Gus

we had some pretty big storms roll through eastern Kentucky overnight. I woke up to see the rain gauge measuring 2.54 inches and powerlines to my barn down in my backyard (a pole got snapped). Fortunately, the lines aren’t live because we disconnected them a few months ago when we switched parts of the home power to solar.

185 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:06:18pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently there are a lot of miraculous teenage virgin births in Texas…

do wingnuts believe in human parthenogenesis?

186 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:06:54pm

re: #185 engineer cat

do wingnuts believe in human parthenogenesis?

apparently that’s the chance one takes when relying on abstinence only…

187 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:07:29pm

re: #178 lawhawk

Meh. Get back to me when someplace where people actually live get 100+ temps. Oh wait.

Tempe temps this week: 111, 115, 117, 115, 111.

But it’s a dry heat. /////

Seriously though, I’ve been to Stovepipe Wells, and getting there is driving through some seriously gorgeous country.

as we useta say back in nyc, ‘it ain’t da heat, it’s da humility’

188 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:07:30pm

re: #183 Lidane

Sounds like someone still has plans for 2016.

I mentioned that yesterday. Just watch. All of the people (especially liberals) who think he’s Captain Bipartisan are in for a rude awakening.

189 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:08:05pm

re: #163 Gus

Tell me about it. We’re looking at highs of 106 or more through next Wednesday here in Southern Idaho.

190 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:09:17pm

WELL WELL WELL

191 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:09:39pm

re: #183 Lidane

He already vetoed SSM in NJ. But he was all nice to Obama during the storm, so he’s OK. //

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:10:28pm

as for abstinence…Governor Goodhair should ask Bristol Palin about how THAT works out…

193 bubba zanetti  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:11:19pm

Quis mansplainiet ipsos mansplaines?

blatantly stolen from the twitters

194 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:12:18pm

re: #146 lawhawk

I’ll give that a try (a secular argument against SSM - not that I agree with it):

Legislatures can enact criminal laws that are malum in se or malum prohibitum. Some crimes are evil on their face that the criminality is easily understood (think rape, murder, etc.).

Some crimes are regulatory in nature, and homosexual relations are in the latter category. The legislature, based on societial norms and standards has determined that these relationships are illegal, just as it has found that underage sexual relations is illegal - as between someone who is 16 and someone who is 18 or older (malum prohibitum rather than malum in se).

The argument that denying SSM in the case of DOMA violates the Equal Protection clause is flawed because Congress regularly determines the eligibility for federal benefits (by income level, child dependents, other dependends, etc.) Congress by its legislative power can determine the eligibility for federal benefits as it sees fit, and if it wishes to address this in the future, it should do so (rather than have the court dictate from the bench).

There ya go.

By doing so, they are furthering a societial good.

The weakness of arguments like this is that the ‘furthering a societal good’ at the end is an assertion for which no evidence has ever been produced in court in any of the marriage cases.

When set against ample evidence of pervasive anti-GLBT animus, this mere allegation is not enough to knock out an equal protection argument.

So the fairest thing to say might be that rational secular arguments against SSM exist, but they are very weak indeed. The analogy with the allegedly ‘secular’ and ‘rational’ arguments against evolution and for intelligent design is nearly perfect.

195 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:12:50pm

re: #188 Mattand

I mentioned that yesterday. Just watch. All of the people (especially liberals) who think he’s Captain Bipartisan are in for a rude awakening.

Christie has his moments, such as getting pissed at Romneybot’s blatant attempts to use Sandy to further his campaign and yelling about the idiots who whined about the ZOMG MOOZLIM JUDGE he appointed. That aside, he’s still a Republican.

196 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:13:09pm

re: #165 Mattand

Apparently South Jersey is under a freaking tornado watch until 10.

Actually all of NJ except for Bergen, Passaic, Essex and Union is under Tornado Watch until 10pm tonight. In other words, except for those suburbs closest to NYC, you’ve gotta watch for tornado potential. Everyone in NYC metro may get severe storms though through tomorrow.

The tornado watches are up through much of the Mid Atlantic from NJ through VA, including parts of MD, DE, and DC.

197 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:13:51pm

re: #171 Vicious Babushka

Sodom and Gomorrah were Libertarian societies, where it was a crime to help the poor and needy, and where the homeless could be raped with impunity. Nothing is mentioned about their sexual habits.

I asked my Sheikh in Berlin about that, as there are some minor differences in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah between the Bible and the Qur’an. The outline is the same. His explanation is that their crime was cruelty to strangers and the helpless…..rape was merely a symptom of their wanton cruelty towards others. He also noted that it is implied that they were bandits, waylaying travelers and robbing them.

In any event, not nice folks.

198 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:14:38pm

Need to be able to zoom this one.

199 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:15:11pm

re: #195 Lidane

Christie has his moments, such as getting pissed at Romneybot’s blatant attempts to use Sandy to further his campaign and yelling about the idiots who whined about the ZOMG MOOZLIM JUDGE he appointed. That aside, he’s still a Republican.

Agreed 100%. He is more dangerous than most Republicans precisely because he is not completely insane and bigoted all the time, thereby having a greater chance of lulling clueless swing voters into voting for him.

200 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:15:16pm

re: #195 Lidane

Republican and looked the right side of history in the eye and said “You know what, I think I’ll just veto this shit anyway.”

201 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:15:59pm

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

I asked my Sheikh in Berlin about that, as there are some minor differences in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah between the Bible and the Qur’an. The outline is the same. His explanation is that their crime was cruelty to strangers and the helpless…..rape was merely a symptom of their wanton cruelty towards others. He also noted that it is implied that they were bandits, waylaying travelers and robbing them.

In any event, not nice folks.

That is fairly accurate. In any case, their sexual habits are not mentioned, it is just inferred because the townspeople wanted to rape the angels, not Lot’s daughters.

202 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:17:25pm

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

That is fairly accurate. In any case, their sexual habits are not mentioned, it is just inferred because the townspeople wanted to rape the angels, not Lot’s daughters.

Well, the angels were probably dressed sluttily, and in the wrong part of town. They were just asking for it.
//

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:17:49pm

re: #196 lawhawk

Actually all of NJ except for Bergen, Passaic, Essex and Union is under Tornado Watch until 10pm tonight. In other words, except for those suburbs closest to NYC, you’ve gotta watch for tornado potential. Everyone in NYC metro may get severe storms though through tomorrow.

The tornado watches are up through much of the Mid Atlantic from NJ through VA, including parts of MD, DE, and DC.

NOAA map

204 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:18:44pm

re: #202 GeneJockey

Well, the angels were probably dressed sluttily, and in the wrong part of town. They were just asking for it.
//

The wingnuts can never explain why G-D would send two angels in the form of gay men.//

205 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:19:10pm
206 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:19:25pm

re: #204 Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts can never explain why G-D would send two angels in the form of gay men.//

Entrapment.

207 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:20:33pm

re: #205 Gus

Nobody wanted to be on the wrong side of that one.

208 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:20:59pm

*FACE PALM*

209 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:21:07pm

re: #204 Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts can never explain why G-D would send two angels in the form of gay men.//

I should ask my priest if angels need a “wide stance”… ///

210 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:21:39pm

WTF how did IRS suppress anybody’s vote?

211 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:22:36pm

re: #208 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

Wait - so she’s saying those Tea Party groups REALLY WERE political organizations?

212 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:22:38pm

Christian Pundits Say They’re the Real Victims in the Gay Marriage Fight Now

The Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act as unconstitutional because, in part, the court found the law was created to express disapproval of a class of citizens: gay couples. But in doing so, the court created a new class of citizens to demonize: conservative Christians. At least, that’s according to some conservative commentators and the religious right.

“You will be made to care about gay marriage,” RedState editor Erick Erickson writes, despite tweeting yesterday that he really didn’t care all that much about the Supreme Court’s decision on DOMA. “You must either fully embrace it or be shunned… you will not be allowed to accept that others can disagree on the issue due to their orthodox faith,” he says. As Justice Antonin Scalia predicted in his dissent, Erickson thinks gay marriage will come to the states soon. He says, “Once that happens, there will be an even messier culture war designed to treat traditionalism as a noxious notion of a bygone era — the equivalent of Jim Crow.” Fox News’ Todd Starnes tweeted on Wednesday, “Won’t be long before they outlaw the Bible as hate speech.” And: “they’re going after the preachers next.”

213 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:22:51pm
214 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:22:53pm

re: #210 Vicious Babushka

By making them sad for not having tax-exempt status for their blatantly partisan political activities, which they were able to engage in just fine in 2010.

215 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:22:57pm

re: #210 Vicious Babushka

WTF how did IRS suppress anybody’s vote?

You know how it goes. Allowing a political organization to spend money tax-free is necessary to one’s freedom of speech. Of course, such an argument is essentially an admission that these organizations were in fact political ones and thus deserving of the extra scrutiny they received.

216 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:23:14pm

re: #204 Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts can never explain why G-D would send two angels in the form of gay men.//

Those wings are FABULOUS!

217 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:23:58pm

re: #210 Vicious Babushka

WTF how did IRS suppress anybody’s vote?

I caint vote fer mah Representive Slobber McGee unless I haz tax breaks !!ty

218 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:11pm

re: #208 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

219 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:17pm

re: #182 darthstar

Life begins at arousal.

Every sperm… is sacred. /you knew that was coming

220 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:27pm

re: #196 lawhawk

Actually all of NJ except for Bergen, Passaic, Essex and Union is under Tornado Watch until 10pm tonight. In other words, except for those suburbs closest to NYC, you’ve gotta watch for tornado potential. Everyone in NYC metro may get severe storms though through tomorrow.

The tornado watches are up through much of the Mid Atlantic from NJ through VA, including parts of MD, DE, and DC.

Youtube Video

221 AlexRogan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:32pm

re: #195 Lidane

Christie has his moments, such as getting pissed at Romneybot’s blatant attempts to use Sandy to further his campaign and yelling about the idiots who whined about the ZOMG MOOZLIM JUDGE he appointed. That aside, he’s still a Republican.

Broken clock and all of that.

Christie’s still a blustering GOPhole, though.

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:35pm

re: #205 Gus

wondering which 13 were “NV”…

223 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:40pm

re: #146 lawhawk

I’ll give that a try (a secular argument against SSM - not that I agree with it):

Legislatures can enact criminal laws that are malum in se or malum prohibitum. Some crimes are evil on their face that the criminality is easily understood (think rape, murder, etc.).

Some crimes are regulatory in nature, and homosexual relations are in the latter category. The legislature, based on societial norms and standards has determined that these relationships are illegal, just as it has found that underage sexual relations is illegal - as between someone who is 16 and someone who is 18 or older (malum prohibitum rather than malum in se).

The argument that denying SSM in the case of DOMA violates the Equal Protection clause is flawed because Congress regularly determines the eligibility for federal benefits (by income level, child dependents, other dependends, etc.) Congress by its legislative power can determine the eligibility for federal benefits as it sees fit, and if it wishes to address this in the future, it should do so (rather than have the court dictate from the bench).

There ya go.

By doing so, they are furthering a societial good.

Doesn’t that immediately fail due to the fact that homosexual relations are *not* illegal?

224 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:41pm

Douche-Nozzle Dewhurst the Lt. Gov played the “Come Take It” card today on the Twitters and FB. He for hit back with one he won’t like

His censors are having a hard time keeping the scrub up.

225 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:24:50pm

re: #219 lawhawk

Every sperm… is sacred. /you knew that was coming

She didn’t.

BAM!

226 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:25:08pm

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

That is fairly accurate. In any case, their sexual habits are not mentioned, it is just inferred because the townspeople wanted to rape the angels, not Lot’s daughters.

Something in all the narratives I’ve noticed. Presumably, Lot had nubile daughters, so why didn’t the townfolk go after them? Because Lot was one of them, of course.

They directed their transgressions onto strangers, a pretty blatant violation of the rule of hospitality.

227 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:26:11pm

re: #225 Kragar

She didn’t.

BAM!

“Coming and going and going and coming.

“And always too soon…..”

228 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:27:30pm

re: #185 engineer cat

do wingnuts believe in human parthenogenesis?

Probably not. Too many syllables.
/

229 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:28:29pm

re: #228 Feline Fearless Leader

Probably not. Too many syllables.
/

IT MUST BE GOOD, IT GOT ‘GENESIS’ IN IT!!

230 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:28:47pm
231 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:28:55pm

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Something in all the narratives I’ve noticed. Presumably, Lot had nubile daughters, so why didn’t the townfolk go after them? Because Lot was one of them, of course.

They directed their transgressions onto strangers, a pretty blatant violation of the rule of hospitality.

I still LOL at Lot’s response: “It’d be darn rude to rape my guests. Here, defile my virgin daughters instead! I’m trying to do the right thing here!”

The subtext being that God is okey dokey with Lot pimping out his kids.

232 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:29:16pm

re: #218 Joanne

Democrats Want IRS Investigator To Come Back And Answer Questions

Democrats want a chance to ask Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration J. Russell George the questions they have raised about the report that set off the IRS scandal.

“It is now evident that the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration’s May 14, 2012 audit report titled ‘Inappropriate Criteria Were Used to Identify Tax-Exempt Applications for Review’ is fundamentally flawed,” the letter reads. “We request that you immediately ask Mr. George to return to the Committee and answer questions under oath regarding all of these matters.”

233 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:30:24pm
234 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:30:25pm

re: #230 darthstar

Excuse me a sec:

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

There, had to get that out of my system.

235 AlexRogan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:30:34pm

re: #208 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

236 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:30:39pm

re: #231 Mattand

I still LOL at Lot’s response: “It’d be darn rude to rape my guests. Here, defile my virgin daughters instead! I’m trying to do the right thing here!”

The subtext being that God is okey dokey with Lot pimping out his kids.

God is kind of a dick in the Bible.

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:31:16pm

re: #199 EPR-radar

Agreed 100%. He is more dangerous than most Republicans precisely because he is not completely insane and bigoted all the time, thereby having a greater chance of lulling clueless swing voters into voting for him.

You also have to remember that Christie was preceded by Corzine. And he did more than mess up the state.

238 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:32:02pm

re: #230 darthstar

Skewed! Also too

239 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:32:19pm

re: #236 Kragar

God is kind of a dick in the Bible.

In the OT, definitely.

240 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:32:53pm

re: #232 Kragar

Why Democrat party politicizing IRS witchhunts?!!11??

241 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:33:03pm

re: #231 Mattand

I still LOL at Lot’s response: “It’d be darn rude to rape my guests. Here, defile my virgin daughters instead! I’m trying to do the right thing here!”

The subtext being that God is okey dokey with Lot pimping out his kids.

When I read that, for some reason, I imagined Lot saying that in Jimmy Stewart’s voice.

242 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:35:19pm

re: #237 Feline Fearless Leader

You also have to remember that Christie was preceded by Corzine. And he did more than mess up the state.

I guess. For all his bluster (“Everything is the teachers’ fault!”), Christie hasn’t exactly rebounded the economy here.

243 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:36:02pm

re: #235 AlexRogan

IRC 501(c)(4) status. That’s the status that most of these entities were seeking, not the general nonprofit under (c)(3).

244 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:36:55pm
245 AlexRogan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:37:42pm

re: #243 lawhawk

IRC 501(c)(4) status. That’s the status that most of these entities were seeking, not the general nonprofit under (c)(3).

Whoops…

246 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:39:10pm

The pants-shitting draft dodger is bleating again:

247 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:40:22pm

re: #232 Kragar

Democrats Want IRS Investigator To Come Back And Answer Questions

I am really starting to want an investigation into Darrell Issa’s investigations. Did he request information from the IRS that solely wanted data based on “Tea Party” criteria? If that is the case, this entire non-event is wasting millions of taxpayer dollars. Same with Benghazi. All this bullshit costs money. GOPers say they care about government spending but you can see by their actions, they are not.

This is getting really old.

248 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:40:34pm

re: #244 Lidane

Yeah, don’t bother with 2013 John ‘Berlin Wall’ McCain.

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:40:38pm

re: #224 Dave In Austin

Douche-Nozzle Dewhurst the Lt. Gov played the “Come Take It” card today on the Twitters and FB. He for hit back with one he won’t like

His censors are having a hard time keeping the scrub up.

I adore JuanitaJean, especially since Molly Ivins isn’t with us anymore.

250 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:40:38pm

re: #223 Feline Fearless Leader

Bowers v. Hardwick found that anti-sodomy (anti-gay) laws were constitutional. Only a few years later, that case was superseded by Lawrence v. Texas, which found those kinds of laws unconstitutional. An anti-gay/anti-SSM advocate would say this means that it’s ripe to be reversed again - and that Bowers should be revived.

251 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:42:18pm

re: #247 Joanne

I am really starting to want an investigation into Darrell Issa’s investigations. Did he request information from the IRS that solely wanted data based on “Tea Party” criteria? If that is the case, this entire non-event is wasting millions of taxpayer dollars. Same with Benghazi. All this bullshit costs money. GOPers say they care about government spending but you can see by their actions, they are not.

This is getting really old.

Issa is a thug with zero credibility.

252 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:43:22pm

re: #246 Lidane

This again? He needs some new material.

253 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:43:36pm

re: #251 Kragar

Issa is a thug with zero credibility.

And yet reasonable people fall for it every time, they say, “Sure, Issa’s a blowhard but the issue is important!”. This happened with Fast and Furious, with the IRS ‘scandal’, with fucking everything. And yet reasonable people still get sucked in.

254 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:44:18pm

re: #231 Mattand

The subtext being that God is okey dokey with Lot pimping out his kids.

Certainly explains the Palin doctrine…

255 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:45:11pm

re: #253 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And yet reasonable people fall for it every time, they say, “Sure, Issa’s a blowhard but the issue is important!”. This happened with Fast and Furious, with the IRS ‘scandal’, with fucking everything. And yet reasonable people still get sucked in.

The issues are important, which is all the more reason Issa needs to be removed and someone competent and credible be placed in charged of looking at them.

256 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:48:04pm

re: #255 Kragar

The issues are important, which is all the more reason Issa needs to be removed and someone competent and credible be placed in charged of looking at them.

For sure but I think whoever would replace Issa would be just as agenda driven. The House GOP has an agenda and its called making POTUS look bad at all times.

257 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:48:27pm

re: #251 Kragar

Issa is a thug with zero credibility.

Wrong. He is a thug with massive right wing voter cred. His saying shit is taken as gospel in the media. He’s a lying thug, I agree. But his credibility to the masses is not zero.

258 bratwurst  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:48:32pm

re: #253 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And yet reasonable people fall for it every time, they say, “Sure, Issa’s a blowhard but the issue is important!”. This happened with Fast and Furious, with the IRS ‘scandal’, with fucking everything. And yet reasonable people still get sucked in.

Same deal with O’Keefe as a pimp at Acorn. It was 2009, and we still had a few people here who (barely) acknowledged his stupid method while praising what he had supposedly exposed.

259 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:51:24pm

And now for something completely different…

Youtube Video

260 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:53:23pm

re: #258 bratwurst

Same deal with O’Keefe as a pimp at Acorn. It was 2009, and we still had a few people here who (barely) acknowledged his stupid method while praising what he had supposedly exposed.

Fuck, I partially fell for that, or some portion of it. I mean, I didn’t think there was a systemic problem but I thought there might have been a few places there was seriously shady shit going on.

261 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:56:07pm

re: #224 Dave In Austin

Douche-Nozzle Dewhurst the Lt. Gov played the “Come Take It” card today on the Twitters and FB. He for hit back with one he won’t like

His censors are having a hard time keeping the scrub up.

The only thing people need to remember about Dewhurst is that he wasn’t smart or savvy enough to beat Ted Cruz.

262 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:57:14pm

re: #258 bratwurst

Same deal with O’Keefe as a pimp at Acorn. It was 2009, and we still had a few people here who (barely) acknowledged his stupid method while praising what he had supposedly exposed.

Thing I remember about that is BillO had Barney Frank on the Factor and he was trying to press Frank to admit that O’Keefe was awesome and had done something noble. Barney seemed reticent to do so. I guess he smelled a rat. The most annoying thing about the fake ACORN scandal is it fed the right wing base a perception that ACORN is why they were losing. I remember one of the first Tea Party backed candidates, a guy named Doug Hoffman in rural upstate New York who lost claiming it was ACORN that was behind his defeat. I am glad O’Keefe has since been discredited largely but the pimpgate and later Sherrodgate are why I’ve developed a wait and see attitude. It’s why I didn’t rush to crown Ed Snowden a noble whistleblower either.

263 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:57:21pm

re: #261 Lidane

The only thing people need to remember about Dewhurst is that he wasn’t smart or savvy enough to beat Ted Cruz.

so you’re saying it’s not a matter if he’s going to step on his own dick, it’s just a matter if he’s wearing cleats or not, gotcha

264 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:57:38pm

So working on the movie with my buddies and so far, we’ve decided that galactic politics resemble the age of the British Empire and the Earth is Tonga.

265 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:57:58pm

I see Wired is still pushing the peanut:

NSA Leak Vindicates AT&T Whistleblower

Sounds all impressive, but what the story is about is old news. Yes, the NSA has collected metadata, yes this came out in 2006.

The NSA has told Congress this. Wired is trying to make this into something new.

266 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:58:03pm

re: #261 Lidane

The only thing people need to remember about Dewhurst is that he wasn’t smart or savvy enough to beat Ted Cruz.

I thought that’s how I remembered the name when I saw the discussion the other night. I know he was the TX GOP establishment pick in the race Cruz ended up winning in the primaries.

267 bubba zanetti  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:58:31pm

Good job, internet, good job

268 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 12:59:56pm

re: #263 piratedan

so you’re saying it’s not a matter if he’s going to step on his own dick, it’s just a matter if he’s wearing cleats or not, gotcha

Pretty much, yeah.

269 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:00:10pm

re: #267 bubba zanetti

Good job, internet, good job

John Oliver had a good one last night. Davis should get Fila as a corporate sponsor and they can sell a new line of shoes called the Fila-Busters.

270 blueraven  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:00:19pm

Senate final vote on immigration to start in a few minutes…scheduled for 4pm ET (probably a little later)

c-span.org

271 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:01:46pm

heh…just saw this on my FB timeline:

God speaks about SCOTUS

272 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:02:20pm

re: #270 blueraven

Senate final vote on immigration to start in a few minutes…scheduled for 4pm ET (probably a little later)

c-span.org

Getting the popcorn started and waiting for more wingnut tears. Yesterday was quite good for harvesting tears, by the way.

273 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:02:50pm

Wired is of course just pushing the latest GG story at the Guardian.

GG is still trying to make more of this than the story can actually bring to bear on our lives.

I note the picture the Guardian chose to run at the top of this story is Obama standing by GWB. The obvious over the head agenda of this whole thing I think is starting to cost the drawing power this affair has.

274 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:03:12pm

re: #270 blueraven

Senate final vote on immigration to start in a few minutes…scheduled for 4pm ET (probably a little later)

c-span.org

I can almost hear it now, “Mr. Speaker, do you have your shit together? This is a pretty big G*Dammed deal here”

275 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:03:43pm

re: #270 blueraven

No Amnesty!! Border Security FIRST, LAST, and ONLY!!!

Keep Christ in Christmas

276 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:06:24pm

How cute. Some of the House Dems are delusional today:

277 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:06:48pm

re: #273 freetoken

Wired is of course just pushing the latest GG story at the Guardian.

GG is still trying to make more of this than the story can actually bring to bear on our lives.

I note the picture the Guardian chose to run at the top of this story is Obama standing by GWB. The obvious over the head agenda of this whole thing I think is starting to cost the drawing power this affair has.

It’s obvious with Wired and CNet, these outfits have articles they know their viewership will like. They are tech savvy and this stuff freaks them out.

278 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:07:51pm

re: #260 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I’m with you in that group.

279 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:07:52pm

re: #276 Lidane

How cute. Some of the House Dems are delusional today:

I want some of whatever they’re smoking.

280 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:08:39pm

re: #275 Bulworth

You forgot

PUT GOD BACK IN SCHOOLS!

GOREBULL WARMING IS A HOAX!!

ENGLISH ONLY!!!

281 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:09:34pm

I don’t trust Ryan. Ryan also knows damn well that if he’s seen as helping this get signed by POTUS, he’s going to be dead meat in a Republican primary.

282 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:10:04pm

re: #267 bubba zanetti

Good job, internet, good job

Those are great.

When I first began wearing these shoes I thought my reproductive rights were secure. Turns out, I couldn’t have been more wrong. Luckily these shoes are really great for kicking republican legislators out of office! They want to shut down reproductive and health care facilities for the poor in Texas? Use these shoes to shut down the state capital!

These go perfectly with any back brace you may need after good old fashion filibusting for 9 hours (with 4 more to go). What’s that? Your crappy mean spirited colleagues on the other side of the isle say it isn’t fair? That’s right ladies, this shoe is completely washable, so just shove it up their ass.

Most importantly, even if you wear these gems without sox for three days straight, they still smell better than a republican Lt Governor who tries to push a law through past midnight, which is absolutely and completely illegal. Yea, pretty stinky I know.

283 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:10:55pm

re: #276 Lidane

Some people just never learn…

284 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:12:02pm

re: #279 Targetpractice

I want some of whatever they’re smoking.

I don’t. I like having functional brain cells. Heh.

285 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:12:13pm

Speaking of immigration, Phyillis Schalfry did another great job of showing why she’s a retrograde bigot today. Apparently Latinos don’t vote Republican because they have too many children out of wedlock and they don’t understand the Bill of Rights. Yeah guys no wonder why your party even lost the Cuban-American vote last year.

286 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:12:24pm

re: #246 Lidane

The pants-shitting draft dodger is bleating again:

Ted Nugent: “gangster” and “diehard Communist” Obama is ruining America;

Sure, Ted, that’s why he made nice with the Red Chinese and gave secrets to the Kremlin. Hell, he’ll probably end up fleeing to some lefty hellhole like Ecuador.

Oh.

Wait a minute.

287 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:12:51pm

re: #284 Lidane

I don’t. I like having functional brain cells. Heh.

I’m a gamer. I don’t have many functioning brain cells left.

288 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:13:40pm

re: #286 Occam’s Guillotine

Sure, Ted, that’s why he made nice with the Red Chinese and gave secrets to the Kremlin. Hell, he’ll probably end up fleeing to some lefty hellhole like Ecuador.

Oh.

Wait a minute.

The guy who likes to threaten people calling others gangster is a hoot too.

289 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:13:50pm

An open letter to Gov. NuckingFuts:

290 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:15:36pm


Derp.

291 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:16:21pm

re: #290 Gus

Derp.

That will make Correa real popular at home eh.

292 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:17:39pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

That will make Correa real popular at home eh.

Assholes. I’m so tired of the stupidity. From Chavism to Kirchner in Argentina. It’s still the same old farce it ever was. Just went from right wing to left wing.

293 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:18:18pm

re: #287 Targetpractice

I’m a gamer. I don’t have many functioning brain cells left.

Heh. I was a pretty hardcore PC gamer (MMO’s mostly, but a few standalone games too) for many years. I had to quit when I started grad school otherwise I would’ve flunked out.

294 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:18:32pm

This Zimmerman trail…oy. Two old guys trying to figure out how Twitter works. In court.

Dumb. Really dumb.

295 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:18:34pm

re: #292 Gus

Assholes. I’m so tired of the stupidity. From Chavism to Kirchner in Argentina. It’s still the same old farce it ever was. Just went from right wing to left wing.

Yep. Political theater at its worst.

296 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:19:39pm
297 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:20:06pm
298 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:20:19pm

re: #296 Lidane

Good.

299 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:21:06pm

re: #294 Joanne

This Zimmerman trail…oy. Two old guys trying to figure out how Twitter works. In court.

Dumb. Really dumb.

Yeah, that was just absolutely embarrassing.

300 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:21:43pm

Witness to Zimmerman Lawyer: ‘That’s real retarded, sir’

A witness for the prosecution on Thursday politely told George Zimmerman’s attorney that he was acting “real retarded” by suggesting that slain teen Trayvon Martin lied in a phone call just minutes before he was shot.

“Of course, you don’t know if he was telling the truth or not,” attorney Don West insisted to witness Rachel Jeantel, who was speaking to Martin on the phone just minutes before he was shot by Zimmerman.

“Why would he need to lie about that, sir?” Jeantel asked.

“Maybe he decided to assault George Zimmerman and he didn’t want you to know about it,” West said.

“That’s real retarded, sir,” Jeantel pointed out. “Trayvon did not know him.”

301 blueraven  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:21:52pm

Immigration passes 68-32

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:22:00pm

re: #297 Lidane

and McConnell & Paul both voted “no”…here’s my surprised face…not.

303 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:22:24pm

Here’s a shock — both of my idiot Senators voted AGAINST immigration reform.

Ugh. I weep for my state sometimes.

304 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:23:11pm
305 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:23:24pm

re: #301 blueraven

Immigration passes 68-32

Not quite the 70 they were gunning for, but close enough.

306 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:23:45pm

re: #301 blueraven

OK, but less than the magic 84 needed to achieve SUPER BI-NON-PARTISANY NIRVANA.

307 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:23:46pm

re: #304 lawhawk

Hasn’t Boehner already stated that the House will not consider the Senate bill, but will write their own?

308 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:23:52pm

re: #304 lawhawk

DOA in the House.. Because Jon Jon said so..

309 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:24:54pm

re: #303 Lidane

Here’s a shock — both of my idiot Senators voted AGAINST immigration reform.

Ugh. I weep for my state sometimes.

My state as well, Lidane…
As if we have way too many rill’ Amercians willing to be farm workers, when all they need is a possible GED to be a high dollar NSA contractor employee…

310 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:25:33pm

re: #307 freetoken

If the Republicans can write there own bill, that will be knon as “Outreach”

311 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:25:35pm

re: #307 freetoken

Hasn’t Boehner already stated that the House will not consider the Senate bill, but will write their own?

Ayep, though he’s hedged a bit by saying that if any bill will pass, it will need majority support from both sides. Though his insistence that he won’t violate the “Hastert Rule” has a lot to do with the natives once again grumbling aloud that they’ll toss him out on his ass if he allows Democrats to pass a bill.

312 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:26:00pm

re: #307 freetoken

They’ll write their own as soon as they pass Repeal OBOMOCAIR 35 more times and DEFEND MARRIAGE AMENDMENT another 42 times.

313 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:26:21pm

Well Kaine showed why I had no problem voting for him over Allen.

314 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:26:35pm

re: #310 Dave In Austin

If the Republicans can write their own bill, that will be known as “literacy”.

315 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:27:00pm

And we all know how the Tea Party handles literacy.

316 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:27:21pm

Oh, so many answers to this question:

317 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:27:39pm
318 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:27:42pm

How is it going today?

319 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:28:36pm

The bloom is off the rose…

Beck: Marco Rubio a ‘piece of garbage’ for helping ‘communist’ Democrats

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:29:19pm

re: #318 FemNaziBitch

How is it going today?

kinda sucky…I gots powerlines down in the backyard after last night’s storms snapped a power pole to the barn. Good thing the lines are dead but on the plus side, I’m getting exercise jumping over them…

321 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:29:25pm

More on the Zimmerman trial. That witness IS following the brother.

twitter.com

322 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:29:30pm

re: #318 FemNaziBitch

How is it going today?

Rick Perry is a smug, self-righteous, mansplaining asshole. Wendy Davis is still awesome. And the Senate just passed an immigration reform bill for the House to ignore.

Par for the course so far.

323 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:29:51pm

re: #318 FemNaziBitch

How is it going today?

Sort of quiet here at work.

Excitement will be going home and seeing how the cat is doing with her new habit of exploring the kitchen counters for fun when I am away. I half expect her to start breaking glassware or attempting to dump a heavy object onto the younger cat.

324 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:30:09pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

kinda sucky…I gots powerlines down in the backyard after last night’s storms snapped a power pole to the barn. Good thing the lines are dead but on the plus side, I’m getting exercise jumping over them…

Ah well, at least you don’t have to repair them yourself!

325 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:30:29pm

Because, well, this is America:

Superman: Jesus figure or ‘anti-Christ’?

Superman has always had a bit of a messiah complex, born as a modern-day Moses in the imagination of two Jewish guys during the Depression and over the years developing and amplifying his Christlike characteristics.

So it made sense that Warner Bros. Pictures spared no effort in using the Jesus connection to attract the increasingly important Christian audience to see the latest film in the Superman franchise, “Man of Steel.”


The studio hired a leading faith-based marketing agency, Grace Hill Media, to hold special screenings for pastors, and it developed an extensive website of Christian-themed resources — including specially-edited trailers for use in churches and “Man of Steel” sermon notes.

“The Christ-like parallels, I didn’t make that stuff up,” director Zack Snyder told CNN. “That is the tried-and-true Superman metaphor.”

Or maybe not.

Despite the studio’s best efforts, some viewers are leaving the theater after watching “Man of Steel” and issuing what amounts to a theological spoiler alert: Don’t compare this Superman to Jesus Christ.

In fact, “he is the anti-Christ,” as the Rev. Thomas Reese, a Jesuit priest and commentator for National Catholic Reporter, […]

Or as Jackson Cuidon put it in his “Man of Steel” review in Christianity Today, a leading evangelical magazine: “Superman … is there mostly to satiate that part of the American psyche that wants their messiahs to punch things, too.”


[…]

326 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:30:54pm

re: #319 Kragar

The bloom is off the rose…

Beck: Marco Rubio a ‘piece of garbage’ for helping ‘communist’ Democrats

Marco finding out the hard way that his “friends” act like jilted lovers if he dares to go against them. I’d feel bad for him but it’s hard for me to do so since he’s more often than not willing to be a water-carrying hack for them.

327 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:31:14pm

re: #322 Lidane

Rick Perry is a smug, self-righteous, mansplaining asshole. Wendy Davis is still awesome. And the Senate just passed an immigration reform bill for the House to ignore.

Par for the course so far.

SSDD?

As there are now more women graduating from Universitiy than men, I feel Perry and his ilk are on their way out thru attrition.

These things take time.

328 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:31:43pm

re: #323 Feline Fearless Leader

Sort of quiet here at work.

Excitement will be going home and seeing how the cat is doing with her new habit of exploring the kitchen counters for fun when I am away. I half expect her to start breaking glassware or attempting to dump a heavy object onto the younger cat.

Walking into the house is always an adventure when on has a Cat Overlord!

329 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:32:20pm

re: #325 freetoken

They didn’t like the Buddy Jesus concept?

330 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:32:22pm

I don’t know why Rick Perry doesn’t just haul these out in public because it’s the way they think about women, too. And the ‘baggers in the House should just go ahead and put them on when they vote on the immigration bill.

Image: kkk.jpeg

331 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:33:04pm

re: #325 freetoken

It’s not bringing money and influence to their church, therefore it’s anti-Jesus.

332 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:33:10pm
333 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:07pm

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

Walking into the house is always an adventure when on has a Cat Overlord!

Oh, she has the tripping hazard upon entry thing down pat as well.
O_o

334 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:15pm

re: #324 FemNaziBitch

Ah well, at least you don’t have to repair them yourself!

actually, yes I do because they are a “private” lines that are only connected after the mains. But we already cut them because of moving piece by piece to solar. Plus the lines themselves are some really great old time solid copper stuffs.

335 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:30pm

Because, well, this is still America:

Creationism on Springboro school agenda

Springboro school board members will tackle several issues in their meeting tonight.

On the agenda again is more discussion of adding creationism to the curriculum.

Board members will also discuss new wording for the district’s policy on religious and patriotic ceremonies and observances, setting aside time to teach about Veteran’s Day and Constitution Day.

[…]

What most of these reports are leaving out is that the board member who keeps bringing this up is part of (and heads IIRC) a local “tea party” group.

336 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:34pm

oh, and here goes McConnell being an asshole…

337 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:36pm

OK, Superman is just boring as far as superheroes go.

338 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:42pm

Oh Erick, son of Erick, you’re so funny:


As if the House and GOPers nationally are doing such a bang up job on the economy. NJ’s economy is puttering along with unemployment higher than the national average, and higher than neighboring states.

Texas is ignoring the economy to focus like a laser beam on eradicating womens’ access to abortions.

But that makes for a great fable. One that many of his followers will lap up and read to comfort them at night.

339 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:34:50pm

Phyllis Schlafly today….

Latinos, she said, in an interview excerpt posted at Right Wing Watch, can never be proper Republicans because they have too many children out of wedlock and because they “don’t understand” concepts like small government and the U.S. Bill of Rights.

Crazy Librarian

340 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:36:07pm

re: #335 freetoken

Because, well, this is still America:

Creationism on Springboro school agenda

What most of these reports are leaving out is that the board member who keeps bringing this up is part of (and heads IIRC) a local “tea party” group.

Just trying to do their duty as “job creator” for lawyers who will handle the inevitable suit. Hope the school district is ready to pay and knows what areas they will end up making cuts in to cover for it.

341 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:37:25pm

re: #338 lawhawk

Oh Erick, son of Erick, you’re so funny:


As if the House and GOPers nationally are doing such a bang up job on the economy. NJ’s economy is puttering along with unemployment higher than the national average, and higher than neighboring states.

Texas is ignoring the economy to focus like a laser beam on eradicating womens’ access to abortions.

But that makes for a great fable. One that many of his followers will lap up and read to comfort them at night.

I was going to say. The House of Reps that his kind wanted are the people constantly trying to repeal ACA with its signer in the WH, have pushed a practical ban on abortion, and as of today have also pushed a constitutional marriage amendment. Talk to your own side Erick before you bitch at the Senate for doing something that will actually have an impact.

342 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:37:44pm

Boehner takes his sweet time in clarifying:

343 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:39:05pm

re: #338 lawhawk

344 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:39:13pm

re: #339 Dave In Austin

Phyllis Schlafly today….

Crazy Librarian

I saw that. At least she’s honest about being a bigoted witch instead of trying to claim that the Dems are the real racists but I suppose she believes that too even while she says this crap.

345 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:39:30pm

re: #342 lawhawk

Boehner takes his sweet time in clarifying:

Because his party said they would bring him down if he brings this to a vote.

346 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:40:04pm

re: #343 lawhawk

Seriously he’s one to fucking talk. Where are this passive aggressive whiny tweets from him when Michelle Bachmann pushes a futile attempt to repeal ACA? Where is his anger at Darrell Issa and his fishing expeditions?

347 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:40:17pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I was going to say. The House of Reps that his kind wanted are the people constantly trying to repeal ACA with its signer in the WH, have pushed a practical ban on abortion, and as of today have also pushed a constitutional marriage amendment. Talk to your own side Erick before you bitch at the Senate for doing something that will actually have an impact.

But, but, the Senate hasn’t put forth a budget!
:p

348 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:40:51pm

re: #321 Joanne

More on the Zimmerman trial. That witness IS following the brother.

twitter.com

She’s also following Donald Trump and Mitt Romney, and a bunch of celebs including the entire cast of Jersey Shore.

I’m sorry, I am somewhat obsessed. Tell me to shut up if you want to.

349 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:40:57pm

Listened to a few of the Bill Moyer’s podcasts last night. Really interesting stuff!

He interviewed/had a conversation with Sandra Steingraber that really got me thinking. She stated that girls are experiencing earlier development —which may or may not be a result of what she calls Toxic Trespass.

What I thought was concerning was the realization (light-bulb effect) as she explained what that means for cognitive development and education. The learning period for the ability to learn language etc is becoming shorter. Those early years of neural development are (IMHO) not given enough attention and resources as it is … .

She did a good job of making the case for science. She stated that legislation is so far behind the current scientific evidence that even we are approving fund allocations for projects that have not been studied at all—when a scientific based feasability/cost study would be prudent.

She gave examples etc.

We are so fucked.

350 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:41:17pm

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

actually, yes I do because they are a “private” lines that are only connected after the mains. But we already cut them because of moving piece by piece to solar. Plus the lines themselves are some really great old time solid copper stuffs.

Ok, that does suck.

351 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:42:31pm

re: #338 lawhawk

That is a feature to the GOP…hardly a bug.

352 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:42:43pm

re: #335 freetoken

Because, well, this is still America:

Creationism on Springboro school agenda

What most of these reports are leaving out is that the board member who keeps bringing this up is part of (and heads IIRC) a local “tea party” group.

I just listened to something last night —the Moyer’s Podcast again. He had the writer (or something) of the Lincoln (Danial Day-Lewis) movie. He talked about Ohio being a problem in the ratification of the 13th amendment.

353 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:43:59pm

Is the new gay marriage law only covered in states that legalize it? WTF kind of ruling is that?

354 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:44:20pm

re: #343 lawhawk

Have I mentioned how awesome you are? Well, you are. And kudos on your karmas.

I stopped watching TV because of the whole IRS, Benghazi bullshit boogaloo. You guys keep me informed and sane.

So thanks to all of you, too!

355 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:45:23pm

re: #353 Amory Blaine

Is the new gay marriage law only covered in states that legalize it? WTF kind of ruling is that?

All the ruling did was declare the Federal Law unconstitutional. The Prop 8 decision was a punt that settled nothing beyond allowing California to allow SSM marriage.

356 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:45:37pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I was going to say. The House of Reps that his kind wanted are the people constantly trying to repeal ACA with its signer in the WH, have pushed a practical ban on abortion, and as of today have also pushed a constitutional marriage amendment. Talk to your own side Erick before you bitch at the Senate for doing something that will actually have an impact.

While listening to part of the filibuster on Tuesday, one of the TX Senators (a physician) stated how much the bill was about the health and safety of women. (ya right).

Anyway, my first thought was: Well, if you really cared about the health and safety of women, you would

1-teach comprehensive Sex Ed
2-Provide Contraception without age limit or questions
3-teach boys not to rape
4-allow hospitals to provide abortion services instead of just “complication of abortion” services.
5-fund the establishment of regional hospitals

357 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:45:50pm

re: #350 FemNaziBitch

Ok, that does suck.

well, truth be told, I can use the exercise jumping over the wires until I get around to wading through the grapevines where the snapped pole landed to cut the wires and roll them up out of the way.
and, further truth be told, here in the backwoods power poles are most usually plain old locust logs, which have an amazing lifespan for many uses. In this case, this particular pole (and another one) has been in use since about the 1960s.

358 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:46:38pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

I saw that. At least she’s honest about being a bigoted witch instead of trying to claim that the Dems are the real racists but I suppose she believes that too even while she says this crap.

She’s not a racist, she is a rich bitch who doesn’t think anyone who isn’t in her “class” is not human.

They can be brown or purple, she doesn’t care, as long as they think like her and have money.

359 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:47:25pm

re: #353 Amory Blaine

Is the new gay marriage law only covered in states that legalize it? WTF kind of ruling is that?

They can’t be denied Federal Benefits regardless of what state they live/work in —no?

360 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:49:51pm

Lamar Alexander (TN)

Kelly Ayotte (NH)

Jeff Chiesa (NJ)

Susan Collins (ME)

Bob Corker (TN)

Jeff Flake (AZ)

Lindsey Graham (SC)

Orrin Hatch (UT)

Dean Heller (NV)

John Hoeven (ND)

Mark Kirk (IL)

John McCain (AZ)

Lisa Murkowski (AK)

Marco Rubio (FL)

361 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:50:02pm

GOP yes votes.

362 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:50:18pm

re: #326 HappyWarrior

Marco finding out the hard way that his “friends” act like jilted lovers if he dares to go against them. I’d feel bad for him but it’s hard for me to do so since he’s more often than not willing to be a water-carrying hack for them.

They trust Rubio to carry water? That’s sending cheese by mouse.

363 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:50:26pm

re: #360 Gus

RINOS!!!!!!

364 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:50:40pm

re: #339 Dave In Austin

because they “don’t understand” concepts like small government

Small government like the anti-abortion Texas is trying to pass. //

365 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:51:02pm

re: #364 Bulworth

Small government like the anti-abortion Texas is trying to pass. //

Micro government —small enough to fit inside Lady Parts.

366 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:51:12pm
367 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:51:35pm

re: #359 FemNaziBitch

They can’t be denied Federal Benefits regardless of what state they live/work in —no?

No. According to the ruling the federal government looks to the state of residence to see whether the marriage is honored. DOMA was only partially struck down, the full faith and credit clause has not been restored. A gay marriage performed in a state like New York doesn’t carry federal benefits if the couple then moves or returns to a state like Mississippi that has explicitly outlawed ssm.

Total bullshit ruling.

368 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:51:57pm

re: #360 Gus

Rubio is done as the great white dope. Ayotte…I doubt she is GOP the rising star anymore. Lindsay will probably get primaried (he may or may not survive, depending on how rabid SC is and how far his name recognition takes him).

369 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #363 freetoken

RINOS!!!!!!

Western Black RINO

370 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:53:58pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

No. According to the ruling the federal government looks to the state of residence to see whether the marriage is honored. DOMA was only partially struck down, the full faith and credit clause has not been restored. A gay marriage performed in a state like New York doesn’t carry federal benefits if the couple then moves or returns to a state like Mississippi that has explicitly outlawed ssm.

Total bullshit ruling.

Well, It’s a beginning anyway.

The court recognized the legitimacy of Same Sex Marriage. That is a big, big step.

371 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:54:13pm

I await the enthusiastic tweet from Bryan Fischer about how this vote reflects good Christian values. //

372 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:54:25pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

No. According to the ruling the federal government looks to the state of residence to see whether the marriage is honored. DOMA was only partially struck down, the full faith and credit clause has not been restored. A gay marriage performed in a state like New York doesn’t carry federal benefits if the couple then moves or returns to a state like Mississippi that has explicitly outlawed ssm.

Total bullshit ruling.

The Full Faith and Credit Clause is the way to approach it next. That’s how I’d go for it - I’m pretty sure I learned in my US Government class that the Constitution was the supreme law of the land; thus, the states cannot have laws that stand in contravention to the US Constitution, in this case, Article 4, Section 1.

373 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:55:05pm
374 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:55:54pm

re: #355 Feline Fearless Leader

All the ruling did was declare the Federal Law unconstitutional.

And only the part of it at that. The Court created a gigantic 14th Amendment violation in its solution, as married gay couples in bigot states don’t have the same equal protection of the laws as they do in states that allow ssm.

375 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:56:08pm

What a Moran!

376 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:56:16pm

re: #352 FemNaziBitch

I just listened to something last night —the Moyer’s Podcast again. He had the writer (or something) of the Lincoln (Danial Day-Lewis) movie. He talked about Ohio being a problem in the ratification of the 13th amendment.

13th? or 14th? Wikipedia pages don’t indicate issues with the former, but show Ohio as a state that ratified, rescinded, and later re-ratified the 14th.

377 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:56:33pm

Immigration Overhaul Passes in Senate

378 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:57:08pm

re: #375 darthstar

What a Moran!

LMAO! That’s hysterical.

Comprehension, how does that work?

379 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:57:25pm

re: #376 Feline Fearless Leader

13th? or 14th? Wikipedia pages don’t indicate issues with the former, but show Ohio as a state that ratified, rescinded, and later re-ratified the 14th.

It was a Congress Critter they had to convince —I can’t remember the name.

380 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:58:00pm

re: #379 FemNaziBitch

It was a Congress Critter they had to convince —I can’t remember the name.

Could be. The Copperheads were strong in Ohio.

381 blueraven  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:58:03pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

No. According to the ruling the federal government looks to the state of residence to see whether the marriage is honored. DOMA was only partially struck down, the full faith and credit clause has not been restored. A gay marriage performed in a state like New York doesn’t carry federal benefits if the couple then moves or returns to a state like Mississippi that has explicitly outlawed ssm.

Total bullshit ruling.

Not quite bullshit. As the decision was based on equal protection rather than states rights, I am sure there will be more challenges by individuals in states (such as Utah, which has a ban on SS marriage)

Now there is precedent under equal protection. I see more states coming aboard in the future and others being challenged.

382 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:58:13pm

re: #375 darthstar

What a Moran!

Sounds like a convenient cover story to me.

383 Dave In Austin  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:58:34pm

Tard…..

500 dead last nite

384 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:58:41pm
385 geoffm33  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:58:57pm

re: #375 darthstar

What a Moran!

Bwahahaaha! What a Moran.jpg!

386 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:59:16pm

re: #381 blueraven

Not quite bullshit. As the decision was based on equal protection rather than states rights, I am sure there will be more challenges by individuals in states (such as Utah, which has a ban on SS marriage)

Now there is precedent under equal protection. I see more states coming aboard in the future and others being challenged.

NPR had a contributor that stated this was a “Law School Professors” dream. It will be in the courts in every possible way they can challenge/affirm it.

387 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:59:39pm

re: #370 FemNaziBitch

Well, It’s a beginning anyway.

The court recognized the legitimacy of Same Sex Marriage. That is a big, big step.

But the fact that Kennedy could allow such an obviously unconstitutional condition to be created as a result of his narrow ruling shows exactly what a ponce he is.

388 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:00:15pm

Did the Texas GOP really try to pull the shenanigans with the time stamp? I saw a headline about it, but haven’t followed the play-by-play.

389 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:00:55pm

re: #387 goddamnedfrank

But the fact that Kennedy could allow such an obviously unconstitutional condition to be created as a result of his narrow ruling shows exactly what a ponce he is.

Politics is a game of rhetorical magicians.

Especially in a Democracy.

390 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:02:22pm

re: #388 FemNaziBitch

Did the Texas GOP really try to pull the shenanigans with the time stamp? I saw a headline about it, but haven’t followed the play-by-play.

Yes. And people immediately called bullshit on it. They ultimately had to concede defeat. Hence, the second special session.

391 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:02:27pm

re: #388 FemNaziBitch

Did the Texas GOP really try to pull the shenanigans with the time stamp? I saw a headline about it, but haven’t followed the play-by-play.

Yes, there are screen grabs. It was 6/26/2013 for the vote and the other procedural followups, then all four line items magically became 6/25/2013. I think one of the legislators claimed fraud and was going to escalate it through channels, and that’s when they walked it back.

392 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:02:53pm
393 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:04:47pm

re: #381 blueraven

Not quite bullshit. As the decision was based on equal protection rather than states rights, I am sure there will be more challenges by individuals in states (such as Utah, which has a ban on SS marriage)

It’s half assed bullshit that for the time being lets states rights trump the very clearly defined individual right the court explicitly recognized.

394 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:04:49pm

re: #392 Lidane

Good thing Wendy is up-to-it. I’d fall over if I couldn’t lean on something for all time it would take.

395 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:07:09pm

The Daniel Day-Lewis Lincoln movie thing on Moyer’s Podcast, I believe was at the end of this episode:

Full Show: MLK’s Dream of Economic Justice
ReleasedApr 05, 2013

Theologian James Cone and historian Taylor Branch join Bill to discuss Dr. King’s other dream: economic justice.

It’s not listed as a separate episode.

I notice there is a episode with Glen Greenwald —LOL

396 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:08:41pm

re: #393 goddamnedfrank

It’s half assed bullshit that for the time being lets states rights trump the very clearly defined individual right the court explicitly recognized.

I think the USSC was afraid to go all the way. Incrementalism is the name of the game for them. I think the next cases that come up will involve Full Faith and Credit and Equal Protection issues, and it’ll be 5-4 in favor of SSM, unless Scalia is off the court and replaced, then it’ll be 6-3.

397 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:09:39pm

Speaking of Texas:

Texas Republicans react to Senate-passed immigration bill with disdain, disgust

398 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:09:42pm

re: #389 FemNaziBitch

Politics is a game of rhetorical magicians.

Especially in a Democracy.

they suffer from Bitchy Lying Face

399 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:09:52pm

re: #396 Dr Lizardo

I think the USSC was afraid to go all the way. Incrementalism is the name of the game for them. I think the next cases that come up will involve Full Faith and Credit and Equal Protection issues, and it’ll be 5-4 in favor of SSM, unless Scalia is off the court and replaced, then it’ll be 6-3.

Definitely a sign of Creeping Sharia Socialsm. Every red-blooded murican should be concerned

400 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:09:52pm

Yeah! Because we don’t send aid to the Middle East:

401 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:10:38pm

re: #397 freetoken

Speaking of Texas:

Texas Republicans react to Senate-passed immigration bill with disdain, disgust

I would expect nothing less. When does AZ chime in?

402 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:10:39pm

re: #400 Lidane

Like, maybe Saudi Arabia.

jeebus some people are stoopid. Or just as&holes.

403 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:10:44pm

re: #373 Lidane

Except of course a few decades from now when the next copyright extension needs to be passed.

That one will go through Congress like grease through a goose.

404 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:11:27pm

re: #391 Joanne

Yes, there are screen grabs. It was 6/26/2013 for the vote and the other procedural followups, then all four line items magically became 6/25/2013. I think one of the legislators claimed fraud and was going to escalate it through channels, and that’s when they walked it back.

re: #390 Lidane

Yes. And people immediately called bullshit on it. They ultimately had to concede defeat. Hence, the second special session.

Blatant disregard for the rules and procedures they were so adamant about following during the filibuster. I think their hypocrisy is showing… .

405 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:12:41pm

re: #404 FemNaziBitch

re: #390 Lidane

Blatant disregard for the rules and procedures they were so adamant about following during the filibuster. I think their hypocrisy is showing… .

Like a pink lace Freudian slip.

406 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:13:08pm

re: #400 Lidane

Shouldn’t withholding aid to other countries make these “fiscally responsible” teatards very happy?

407 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:13:45pm

re: #405 Joanne

Like a pink lace Freudian slip.

I am so stealing that!

408 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:14:16pm

re: #393 goddamnedfrank

It’s half assed bullshit that for the time being lets states rights trump the very clearly defined individual right the court explicitly recognized.

For legal half assed BS, this has better justification than most. The underlying dispute in the DOMA case was a Federal Tax issue, which doesn’t really give the court a good way to get at state-level issues.

Of course, the court has just recently engaged in precisely this kind of over-reach in Citizens United, where an issue that was not properly before the court was decided.

409 Lidane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:16:21pm

re: #406 Dr. Matt

Shouldn’t withholding aid to other countries make these “fiscally responsible” teatards very happy?

You’d think they would’ve been happy with the DOMA case. The feds basically got told that they were wrong to force a woman to pay excessive and uneccessary estate taxes and that they had to pay her back.

410 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:16:35pm

I’ve been playing with bookbinding.

I tried to take a decent picture of this mini-book with slipcover I made.

411 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:16:46pm

re: #400 Lidane

Speaking with Glenn Beck, Barton said that the Obama administration will use the DOMA decision to compel chaplains to “perform gay marriage against their will” and tell Central American governments that they will “withhold all State Department funds to your country until you get gay marriage in your Constitution.”

This business again about “compelling”, “forcing” chaplains/pastors to perform gay marriages. Because that’s what we do now. Catholics have to perform Jewish marriages, Baptists have to perform Muslim marriages, etc. ///

412 krypto  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:17:44pm

Breaking News!

The “No More Electable Republicans” immigration bill has just been enacted by the Senate.

It goes into effect as soon as the House of Representatives rejects it.

413 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:18:25pm

re: #411 Bulworth

This business again about “compelling”, “forcing” chaplains/pastors to perform gay marriages. Because that’s what we do now. Catholics have to perform Jewish marriages, Baptists have to perform Muslim marriages, etc. ///

I remember when the ERA was before Congress. One of the arguments against it was that men and women were going to have to have to share public bathrooms and there would have to be a “couch” in each one to allow women to rest.

Because every women’s public bathroom has one. You know how women are.

414 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:18:26pm

Freepers on the immigration vote:

When America falls (which looks sooner rather than later), I hope some of these open-borders traitors are still living, so they can be hunted down like the Israelis hunted down old Nazi war criminals.

May each and every one of these bastards burn in hell.


9 posted on Thu Jun 27 2013 13:31:15 GMT-0700 (PDT) by greene66

Freepers must love Jews, since they claim so often to be victims just like in the holocaust.

415 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:19:28pm

Speaking with Glenn Beck, Barton said that the Obama administration will use the DOMA decision to compel chaplains to “perform gay marriage against their will” and tell Central American governments that they will “withhold all State Department funds to your country until you get gay marriage in your Constitution.” lied outrageously like there was no tomorrow and he expected all of his listeners to be utter morons

fxted

416 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:20:42pm

This Map shows how America compares to the rest of the world on gay rights

washingtonpost.com

A 2011 United Nations report found that dozens of countries have and enforce laws that criminalize private homosexual acts, a staggering number. That’s far, far more countries than allow same-sex unions (although many of those countries are quite small so the number of people effected is not as disproportionate). Most of them are in Africa and the Middle East, although they’re joined by some Caribbean and Southeast Asian nations.

Five of those 76 countries include laws permitting the state to hand out the death penalty for homosexuality: Mauritania, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iran.

417 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:21:29pm

Listening to Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) singing the praises of a carbon tax and I wish he and the others would just go after getting rid of the tax subsidies that gas, oil & coal are getting.
THAT would make a real difference…

418 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:21:58pm

re: #414 freetoken

When America falls (which looks sooner rather than later), I hope some of these open-borders traitors are still living, so they can be hunted down like the Israelis hunted down old Nazi war criminals.

May each and every one of these bastards burn in hell.

OK, so the Family Values Christian has weighed in. I wonder how the immigration bill is being received by the Randian Libertarians and the Crunchy Cons. //

419 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:22:01pm

re: #375 darthstar

What a Moran!

Dontfuckup, Dontfuckup, Dontfuckup, Dontfuckup, Dontfuckup

“Yes.”

SHIT!

420 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:22:09pm

New Levels of Absurdity: Alex Jones Says The Government is Turning Us Gay with Chemical Warfare

Becauz, ya know, like G-d, the gubernet can do such things!!

422 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:23:55pm

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

Whole regions of Derp remain to be explored.

423 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:24:25pm

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

What good are all are gunz in the face of such an onslaught?//

424 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:25:59pm

re: #412 krypto

Breaking News!

The “No More Electable Republicans” immigration bill has just been enacted by the Senate.

It goes into effect as soon as the House of Representatives rejects it.

The best thing about Senate passage of immigration reform is that there is now no way for the House to duck this issue. It’s going to be the political version of detonating a crate of fragmentation grenades in a full manure truck.

Pass the popcorn.

425 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:26:37pm

compel chaplains

i hear that legalizing the practice of christianity will lead to compelling rabbis to perform catholic masses

what’s next??? legalizing goat sacrifices?? i don’t want my children growing up next door to albigensians, mithraists, and - gasp! - unitarians

426 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:27:03pm

re: #423 Bulworth

What good are all are gunz in the face of such an onslaught?//

While listening to NPR in the car yesterday, a caller from California ranted that the Federal government disregarded his vote. Not only his, but everyone that voted for Prop 8 (or whateverthefuck). Then he went on to claim that, in regards to this, that and guns, they didn’t have the power to do that.

How come the gun guys are squarely on the opposite side of every other individual right?

Why does it have to be a 9-1 or 1-9 divide on the Bill of Rights?

I’m freaking tired of it.

427 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:27:10pm

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

Listening to Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) singing the praises of a carbon tax and I wish he and the others would just go after getting rid of the tax subsidies that gas, oil & coal are getting.
THAT would make a real difference…

Both would.

428 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:27:19pm

Afternoon Lizardim.

429 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:27:38pm

re: #425 engineer cat

compel chaplains

i hear that legalizing the practice of christianity will lead to compelling rabbis to perform catholic masses

what’s next??? legalizing goat sacrifices?? i don’t want my children growing up next door to albigensians, mithraists, and - gasp! - unitarians

It’s the Pastafarians I worry about.

:0

430 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:28:03pm

Image: 65375_10151498913483490_821603873_n.jpg

431 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:28:41pm

re: #427 Justanotherhuman

Listening to Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) singing the praises of a carbon tax and I wish he and the others would just go after getting rid of the tax subsidies that gas, oil & coal are getting.
THAT would make a real difference…

Both would.

Truth be told, we have to get out of the way and see what science the young people will devise.

They will solve the energy problem if we just let them.

432 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:29:13pm

re: #426 FemNaziBitch

Of course this dingleberry from CA conveniently forgets that if prop 8 were to be voted on again in CA, the result would most likely be different.

433 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:29:53pm
Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, called the vote on the measure “largely symbolic” and predicted the bill would ultimately be relegated to the “ash heap of history.”

Oh, like the GOPteabag Party.

434 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:30:45pm

re: #432 EPR-radar

And because every single policy issue across America is always decided by initiative and referendums. //

435 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:30:52pm

re: #430 darthstar

Image: 65375_10151498913483490_821603873_n.jpg

So part of my fb profile right now!

436 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:31:19pm
437 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:31:47pm

re: #433 Bulworth

Oh, like the GOPteabag Party.

The GOP teahadis are not yet on the ash heap of history. Let’s throw them a few anvils while they tear themselves apart over immigration…

438 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:31:56pm

So what I’m understanding from all these people complaining about Prop 8 and DOMA is that if we can convince a majority of Americans to vote that lets say, Texans, don’t get to have the same rights as other Americans, they just need to shut up because the majority voted on it.

439 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:32:55pm

re: #434 Bulworth

And because every single policy issue across America is always decided by initiative and referendums. //

Especially matters of civil rights for minorities, which voting majorities are notorious for respecting. ///(not enough / in the world)

440 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:33:30pm

re: #414 freetoken

can’t wait for the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of freepers to show up on my farm to work dawn to dusk for minimum wage…

//

441 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:34:47pm

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

New Levels of Absurdity: Alex Jones Says The Government is Turning Us Gay with Chemical Warfare

flouride! chemtrails! vaccines! oh…and BENGHAZI!!11!!

442 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:34:55pm

Cute or Not-Cute

443 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:34:58pm

re: #438 Kragar

So what I’m understanding from all these people complaining about Prop 8 and DOMA is that if we can convince a majority of Americans to vote that lets say, Texans, don’t get to have the same rights as other Americans, they just need to shut up because the majority voted on it.

And people whose rights are put up for a majority vote aren’t supposed to get pissed off at the very idea of putting rights up for a vote.

444 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:35:58pm

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Cute or Not-Cute

Baby on mama…totally adorabs!!

445 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:35:59pm

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Cute or Not-Cute

Cute.

446 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:36:01pm

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Cute or Not-Cute

not so cute if YOU’RE AN ANT!!!

447 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:36:06pm

re: #439 EPR-radar

Especially matters of civil rights for minorities, which voting majorities are notorious for respecting. ///(not enough / in the world)

You just don’t understand, we have a TYRANNY OF THE MINORITY in this country

448 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:36:10pm

re: #428 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim.

Thank you!

I saw you log in and I thought, ‘Oh no, it’s evening again!’ which it looks like at 3:35 PM, because we have a lot of smoke overhead, and it’s starting to snow ash on us.

449 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:36:13pm

re: #425 engineer cat

compel chaplains

i hear that legalizing the practice of christianity will lead to compelling rabbis to perform catholic masses

what’s next??? legalizing goat sacrifices?? i don’t want my children growing up next door to albigensians, mithraists, and - gasp! - unitarians

Catholic Masses IN LATIN!!!11!!

450 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:36:19pm

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

New Levels of Absurdity: Alex Jones Says The Government is Turning Us Gay with Chemical Warfare

That’s Alex for you. I checked out the Rense website one time, and just….damn. Like Alex on meth.

451 thedopefishlives  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:37:29pm

re: #448 wrenchwench

Thank you!

I saw you log in and I thought, ‘Oh no, it’s evening again!’ which it looks like at 3:35 PM, because we have a lot of smoke overhead, and it’s starting to snow ash on us.

Don’t worry. I will reassure you it is afternoon until it is, in fact, evening.

453 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:38:11pm

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

Catholic Masses IN LATIN!!!11!!

deffinitly unamurkin

454 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:39:04pm

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Cute or Not-Cute

Exceedingly cute. Even the big mom is cute.

455 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:39:19pm

re: #447 FemNaziBitch

Help! Help!! I’m being oppressed!! I called that %^#%^# in the White house a N%^^%^&, and someone called me a racist because of that. My 1st amendment Freeze Peach right to go uncriticized haz been infringed!!

456 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:40:34pm

Feminist Majority is promoting the hastag: #PissedAtPerry

ha!

457 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:41:18pm

re: #455 EPR-radar

Help! Help!! I’m being oppressed!! I called that %^#%^# in the White house a N%^^%^&, and someone called me a racist because of that. My 1st amendment Freeze Peach right to go uncriticized haz been infringed!!

COME SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!1!

458 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:44:13pm

Once a year I do a mass-mailer to the people who donated to my husband’s MS Walk fundraiser. We send Thank-You cards with pictures from the walk.

Every year I have to re-learn how to do mail-merge to get all the labels printed.

WHY? does it have to change so often?

459 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:46:31pm

A Snake oil salesman is worried that NJ is about to put him out of business

Reparative therapy in the crosshairs in NJ

460 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:48:02pm

re: #414 freetoken

Freepers on the immigration vote:

Freepers must love Jews, since they claim so often to be victims just like in the holocaust.

They really don’t give a shit about Teh Juice, but they really crave that victim status. However, not any of that actual torture and extermination stuff.

461 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:48:04pm

re: #459 Kragar

A Snake oil salesman is worried that NJ is about to put him out of business

Reparative therapy in the crosshairs in NJ

“all things are possible thru Christ”

apparently not tolerance, understanding and compassion for those who don’t fit the mold, in their opinion anyway.

462 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:49:29pm

re: #461 FemNaziBitch

“all things are possible thru Christ”

apparently not tolerance, understanding and compassion for those who don’t fit the mold, in their opinion anyway.

All things possible… except being gay.

463 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:52:38pm

re: #462 Kragar

All things possible… except being gay.

Obviously the work of one of those Yoga/Meditation Heretics.

/

464 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:53:36pm

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

New Levels of Absurdity: Alex Jones Says The Government is Turning Us Gay with Chemical Warfare

Well like most government things it must not work well because I was at a dance the other night trying to get girls and not guys to dance with me.

465 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:55:43pm

re: #459 Kragar

“This rapes faith and that’s what we see happening now in the United States of America,” Quinlan laments. “The leftist progressives - whatever you want to call them - are an anti-Christian movement to destroy the United States Constitution, which is a Christian document.”

Um….

466 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:56:11pm

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Well like most government things it must not work well because I was at a dance the other night trying to get girls and not guys to dance with me.

Except some of those girls were guys, but you would never know it.

See how evil the government is!
/

467 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:56:53pm

re: #436 darthstar

Joe the Indian Chief Plumber?

468 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:56:54pm

re: #401 Joanne

I would expect nothing less. When does AZ chime in?

Jan is busy caucusing with the headless corpses in the desert and couldn’t be reached for comment

469 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:56:57pm

re: #436 darthstar

Knew I was on to something for never being a Skins fan despite being NoVa born and bred.

470 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:57:11pm

re: #466 Kragar

Except some of those girls were guys, but you would never know it.

See how evil the government is!
/

Man they’re brilliant.

471 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:57:56pm

Scissor Sisters - Take Your Mama

Youtube Video

472 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:58:14pm

re: #465 Bulworth

Um….

The Constitution is a Christian document? Why worry about Shariah when you got our own Taliban who want secular and religious law as one.

473 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:58:50pm
474 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:58:58pm

re: #465 Bulworth

Um….

check-mate

475 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:00:08pm

re: #459 Kragar

The leftist progressives - whatever you want to call them - are an anti-Christian movement to destroy the United States Constitution, which is a Christian document.

Sigh……

How hard is it to actually read the fucking Constitution? I want these people to point out the references to Jesus, or even God, in the Constitution.

476 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:00:32pm

Have to feed the dogs …

bbl

477 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:04:28pm
478 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:05:10pm

re: #475 Ian G.

Sigh……

How hard is it to actually read the fucking Constitution? I want these people to point out the references to Jesus, or even God, in the Constitution.

Seriously for a bunch of people who pride themselves on “understanding the Constitution better than the left” they sure as hell show often than not that they don’t understand it. And frankly you lose your right to complain about Shariah to me when you start agitating that the US follow the Bible for its secular laws. And it’s for that reason I worry about Christian theocrats far more than I do Muslim ones in this country because there’s actually a party that panders to the former.

479 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:05:24pm

An Ingenious Plan: How the CIA Vets the Syrian Rebels

So the decision has been taken, and the US will start training and arming the Syrian rebels after vetting them in Jordan. Now we all know what a capable organisation the CIA is so we should all be optimistic about this daring plan. The minor fuck-ups that the CIA has been involved in during its existence should not be a reason for us to doubt this carefully-considered plan. In order to illustrate the strength of its vetting programme, the CIA has allowed us to sit in on a few of those interviews scheduled to begin next month. Below is an accurate transcript of how they went:

CIA Agent: Come in please, I’m agent Johnson and this is agent Johnson. And you are?

Syrian rebel: Mohamed Asa’ad.


CIA Agent: Asa’ad? Like the president?

Syrian rebel: No, no, in Arabic it’s different, it’s Asa’ad, not Assad.

CIA Agent: It sounds the same to me.

Syrian rebel: No, it’s Ayen, not A, say Ayen. Asa’ad.

CIA Agent: Assad.

Syrian rebel: No, you’re not doing it right. Asa’ad.

CIA Agent: ok, never mind, I’ll call you Mohamed. Would you like a beer?

Syrian rebel: No, thank you.

CIA Agent: Is that for religious reasons?

Syrian rebel: No, but it’s 9 in the morning and I have a long day ahead.

[…]

RTWT.

480 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:05:43pm

re: #472 HappyWarrior

“rape of faith” what the muthffffff

481 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:05:52pm

Something we can all be thankful for. None of us are named Abigail Fisher. I almost feel sorry for her, as her name will forever be tied to the erosion of voting rights in America.

482 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:06:19pm

Three things:

a) Yesterday, I had my Prozac dose doubled after it has been working. Feel calmer

2-Throbbing headache all day. Left side of head. Didn’t have it yesterday, when the doubled dose started.

483 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:06:43pm

re: #475 Ian G.

in their hearts they just know that the Constitution is a Christian-biblical document. /

484 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:07:05pm

re: #480 Bulworth

“rape of faith” what the muthffffff

No kidding. Does it occur to them that some faithful people also believe in marriage equality but no they think that everyone who is religious has to be a narrow minded bigot like them.

485 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:07:19pm

re: #482 ProTARDISLiberal

Good luck..keep your head up

486 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:08:08pm
487 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:09:07pm

re: #486 darthstar

I hope he keeps on talking like this because it reminds Virginia voters that he and his running mate are equally insane. Flipside though, the base loves this shit. It’s why he didn’t have any opposition.

488 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:09:47pm

re: #485 Bulworth

Redacted it: Someone is very good at fan-made trailers.

I think the headaches are now being caused by issues with my neck. But, if I say that to parents, they will recommend the Chiropracter BS. Any ideas.

489 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:11:38pm

I’m just loving the irony, of how the GOP central big whigs, for all their attempts to hide the social agenda of their far right base under the rug, now are seeing all the social battles overwhelming the national headlines.

490 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:13:40pm

re: #489 freetoken

I’m just loving the irony, of how the GOP central big whigs, for all their attempts to hide the social agenda of their far right base under the rug, now are seeing all the social battles overwhelming the national headlines.

lie down with dogs, get up with freeps

491 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:14:16pm

re: #489 freetoken

I’m just loving the irony, of how the GOP central big whigs, for all their attempts to hide the social agenda of their far right base under the rug, now are seeing all the social battles overwhelming the national headlines.

One of their many problems is that even if the so-con nonsense is set aside, tax cuts and deregulation just aren’t the vote getters that they used to be.

492 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:28:17pm

re: #488 ProTARDISLiberal

Redacted it: Someone is very good at fan-made trailers.

I think the headaches are now being caused by issues with my neck. But, if I say that to parents, they will recommend the Chiropracter BS. Any ideas.

Physical therapist? There are so many things that can go wrong with your neck that really, only a professional with data could make suggestions beyond that.

493 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:39:09pm

re: #488 ProTARDISLiberal

Redacted it: Someone is very good at fan-made trailers.

I think the headaches are now being caused by issues with my neck. But, if I say that to parents, they will recommend the Chiropracter BS. Any ideas.

Check your blood pressure.

494 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:55:23pm

re: #493 goddamnedfrank

When I went to the doctor on Tuesday, they took my blood pressure

104/68

495 efuseakay  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:25:08pm

Yes, Dick. She was a teenage mother… a teenage mother who had the choice of having a child or not.


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